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More than conflict

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Yes, the situation in Ukraine is gaining momentum! We, therefore, are sitting in our warm apartments, drinking tea with lemon and, covered with a warm blanket, we look news about Ukraine. Now Ukraine is the most interesting and relevant subject of discussion for all of Russia. It seems that everything to the point of absurdity is banal - dissatisfaction with power, the desire to be already “completely independent”, etc. But every day the situation began to take on an ever deeper volume, so to speak. That is, the conflict of a completely different significance grew out of an ordinary domestic political conflict. Racial conflict.


So who are we dealing with? With nationalists who have always been and always will be. But this one. For the followers of Stepan Bandera, ordinary people have already gone into battle - those who hate us, the Russians. Accordingly, they do not like Russia. And they live mainly in the west. East and Crimea are special история. The reverse side - in the east they began to hate the cruel nationalists, and they don’t intend to give up their land there. Lviv, in which it was previously dangerous to come to a Russian person, rages. Raging and Donetsk, Kharkov. But in different directions. Somehow it happened that politics turned into a story. Both sides, literally right and left, rely on their historical position in relation to Russia and Russian-Ukrainian relations, so forgive me for the pun. It seems that in Ukraine, in the most direct sense, they understood the saying: "There is no future without the past." That's the way it is, but you cannot live by one maxim. To dig up the truth in the wilds of history will never work and no one. It's easier to find a needle in a huge haystack. Although it is not easy ...

And what to do? How to solve the current problem? About this journalists have repeatedly asked the authorities. The answers are very blurred. The intervention of third parties in the Crimea was agreed upon after the transition of the Crimea to the Russian Empire from the Ottoman Empire. For reference, it said that in the case of the seizure of Crimea by a "third party" both states have the right to declare war on him. I can imagine what the situation would be like if the empires did not collapse ... But that’s okay. Again the story. How to be now? After all, if we had gone deeper into the indestructible jungle of history, we would have noticed that the Crimea was incorporated into the Roman Empire under Gai Julia Caesar. From this it follows that Italy could indirectly claim the Crimea ... It's the same story, after all ...

But now the XXI century. There are no more of the three empires listed above, even though some Ukrainians have a lute about the "imperials" and the "Russian empire". Patriotism is a worthy occupation, of course, but there is a measure for everything! Ukraine is at the crossroads of nationalities - Russians, Jews, Tatars, Poles ... It’s necessary to declare oneself to the "true" population. But how to unravel this tangle? And amuse the pride of the patriots, and come to the most correct option? The answer is.

The trick is that in the entire Ukrainian history, Ukraine has never been so free. Comparatively, no one has particularly influenced it since the “trauma” of the nineties. And any injury, if not healed, causes a relapse. Now, after 23, such a relapse happened. So, personally, my opinion, it would be necessary to the doctor soon! And preferably from the east, from the east it is more kindly ...
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  1. RUSS
    RUSS 11 March 2014 09: 30
    +6
    I’m starting to get used to the news from Ukraine little by little ....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 March 2014 09: 50
      +5
      although some Ukrainians are fierce about the "imperials" and the "Russian Empire". Patriotism is worthy
      See which flag on our BTR wink Watch from 2 min. 25 sec. bully
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 11 March 2014 10: 23
        +5
        Accordingly, they do not like Russia either.


      2. saveall
        saveall 11 March 2014 10: 29
        +6
        “I foresee the restoration of a powerful Russia, even stronger and more powerful. On the bones of the martyrs, as on a strong foundation, a new Russia will be erected - according to the old model; strong in her faith in Christ God and the Holy Trinity! And it will be according to the covenant of the Holy Prince Vladimir - as a single Church! Russian people ceased to understand what Russia is: it is the foot of the Throne of the Lord! The Russian person must understand this and thank God for being Russian. ”

        Holy righteous father John of Kronstadt. 1906–1908

        There will be a storm. And the Russian ship will be wrecked. But even on chips and debris people are saved. Yet not everyone will die. We must pray, we must all repent and pray fervently ... A great miracle of God will be revealed ... And all the chips and debris, by the will of God and His power, will gather and unite, and the ship will be recreated in all its glory and will go its own way, destined by God. .. "

        Rev. Anatoly Optinsky. 1917

        “... All false teachings will come out together with secret demons and atheists (Catholics, Uniates, Ukrainians, self-sanctuaries and others), and will be very sad in Ukraine against the canonical Orthodox Church, its unity and collegiality. These heretics will be supported by godless power, and therefore they will be robbed of the Orthodox Church and the faithful. Then the Kiev Metropolitan (not worthy of this title), along with his like-minded bishops and priests, will greatly shake the Russian Church. Himself will go into eternal perdition, like Judas.
        But all these libels of the crafty and false doctrines in Russia will disappear, and there will be the One Orthodox Church of the Russian ... In the city of Kiev there has never been a Patriarch. The patriarchs were and lived in Moscow. Beware of the self-sacred Ukrainian group (church) and union. ”

        Rev. Lavrenty of Chernigov. The end of the 1940s
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 11 March 2014 09: 30
    +8
    Doctors soon ... doctors for the patient FARION ... spring exacerbation sets in (for the maydanut), in her room to the chewing tie.
  3. katastrofa
    katastrofa 11 March 2014 09: 30
    +6
    I think most people still understand the situation in Ukraine, and the Amerikosov’s goal is also clear (they have already partially achieved it) - their goal is to bring Ukraine to its knees, promising it 13 billionth aid and fairy tales about paradise life in the Jewish Union in the form of a carrot.
    Many people living in Ukraine and in Russia, I think, will not accept the "NEW" predatory power, they just have not yet decided how to deal with it, they are at a loss, and they are afraid for their life and the life of their family (I mean Ukrainian families) and reading this do not grin - it is.
    As a result, I think our peoples are not stupid, they still figure out how to calm these Bandera people, in the end it’s not the whole people, but a handful of scumbags.
    I wish the Ukrainians prudence and be side by side with the Russians and together we will defeat this scum !!!
    in Kiev, Russian and normal Ukrainians Russia is with you, everything will be fine, let the hysterics fight here, historically Crimea is the territory of Russia and the historical truth will prevail. You will work and live in peace, and not in constant Maidan, but plush revolutions. Putin goes about his business, and we Russians work and live normally, the poor and orphans are dumb, and we go wherever we want to relax. Work shaft, enough for everyone.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 11 March 2014 10: 08
      +2
      Quote: katastrofa
      in Kiev Russian and normal Ukrainians Russia with you, everything will be fine

      If someone doesn’t start shooting.
      Quote: katastrofa
      we Russians work and live normally, the poor and dumb orphans are dumb, and we go wherever we want to relax. Work shaft, enough for everyone.

      Well, here you are fooling specifically. There is not enough work everywhere and everyone, well, only 8-10% of the population wants to go on vacation, and there are also enough beggars and homeless people.
      1. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 11 March 2014 14: 55
        +1
        The absolute meaning in words. But ... why is work missing? Tajik citizens easily find work in Russia, you know.
  4. psychologist
    psychologist 11 March 2014 09: 30
    +8
    Yes, a doctor is needed here! they are unlikely to be able to get out of this hole themselves! playing nationalists is a very dangerous thing! it will not end with anything good either for neighbors or for Ukraine itself!
  5. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 11 March 2014 09: 31
    +6
    The doctor is preparing tools for the operation, the disease is too neglected.
  6. vadimalehin76
    vadimalehin76 11 March 2014 09: 31
    +6
    I fully agree with the author of the article. A doctor is truly desirable. But now for one part of Ukraine it is Russia, for another USA and others like it. And how to understand what dohtur really need hi
    1. Boris Kovalev
      26 March 2014 08: 34
      0
      Most likely, both political and territorial division of Ukraine will follow.
  7. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 11 March 2014 09: 32
    +10
    I don’t know about others, but I personally am most annoyed by a certain third party, which, having no right to do so, constantly gets into conflict with their advice, and tries to dictate to everyone what and how to do, although they themselves have a “stigma”.
  8. Gagarin
    Gagarin 11 March 2014 09: 34
    +9
    I DO NOT NEED A DOCTOR AND A SURGEON !!!
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 11 March 2014 10: 41
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      I DO NOT NEED A DOCTOR AND A SURGEON !!!

      trauma surgeon
    2. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 11 March 2014 11: 24
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      I DO NOT NEED A DOCTOR AND A SURGEON !!!

      Rather, the executioner ...
  9. Roman Skomorokhov
    Roman Skomorokhov 11 March 2014 09: 35
    +7
    Disagree with racial conflict. And then the racial question? National - and then with a stretch. Ethnic - possible.

    I agree that some people like Russia, and some don't. Moreover, among my friends in Ukraine there are both the first and the second. Some want to go to Europe, others to Russia. It is a fact. But Russia is not a hundred dollar bill to please everyone without exception. This is also a fact. But Russia does not impose its opinion on anyone in matters of self-organization. So ... first of all, those who "go into battle against Russia," go first of all against their own people.

    Nevertheless, these historical jokes, who and the earlier owned - by the cash register. What is the difference now that the people who live on this earth express their opinions? And reference? This is not a decision of the Kosovo parliament. This is more serious.
  10. Dym71
    Dym71 11 March 2014 09: 37
    +3
    The trick is that in the entire Ukrainian history, Ukraine has never been so free


    Never, this is true, has been so free of banknotes.
  11. wulf66
    wulf66 11 March 2014 09: 37
    +5
    It is useless to talk with Maidan zapadentsi, there is complete brain atrophy, plus spring exacerbation.
  12. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 11 March 2014 09: 41
    +3
    from the day put on the abscess will begin to open, God forbid that we do not splatter with pus!
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 11 March 2014 10: 43
      +1
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      God forbid that we are not splashed with pus!

      and it depends on professional skill
  13. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 11 March 2014 09: 42
    +4
    Indeed, if we further delved into the indestructible wilds of history, we would have noticed that a hundred Crimea was annexed to the Roman Empire under Gaia Julius Caesar.
    It is very interesting, what story did you delve into so much that you saw the annexation of Crimea (geographical territory) by Rome?
    Journalists have repeatedly asked authorities about this. The answers are very blurry.
    What is the vagueness of the answer of the deputy governor of Kolomoisky, Boris Filatov (Kolomoisky's right hand and mouthpiece) ?: “No landings from the Maidan. No extremist statements. It is necessary to give the scum any promises, guarantees and make any concessions. And hang up ... Hang them up later "
  14. mountain
    mountain 11 March 2014 09: 44
    +5
    Kiev turned to the wrong doctor, one can’t do without resuscitation.
  15. sazhka4
    sazhka4 11 March 2014 09: 53
    +3
    From distant Libya, Yugoslavia and Iraq, Rolled up to us, under the barrel. If we keep silent, they will eat it. We will not keep silent about the war. Anyway, someday this problem had to be solved. The word games are over. I do not see who and how can scare us .. If only "oligarchs". The people have nothing to lose. Just at the end they will sweep away everyone and everything.
  16. dmitriygorshkov
    dmitriygorshkov 11 March 2014 09: 53
    +2
    Of course, I put article +, but I didn’t see the answer to the question you asked. You write the answer IS! I stood still ...! I need to go to the doctor! I thought the treatment method would be voiced smile !
    Sorry, but this is reminiscent of a joke (I think everyone is useful to relax for a moment):
    The geologists' all-terrain vehicle is deadly stuck in the tundra. The members of the expedition were exhausted trying to get it out. The Chukchi emerges from the taiga and immediately declares: “The Chukchi knows what to do!” - “What?” Asked the exhausted geologists. “Will you give alcohol?” - "We will give !!!" - "However, the tractor is needed!"
    Yes, the doctor is certainly needed here. The trouble is that the patient considers himself healthy, the only competent doctor from the East, who cares about the patient’s health, considers partial, moreover, interested in death with subsequent participation in the sharing of inheritance. with his treatment, a consultation of Western experts, not wanting to see that such treatment methods, have already made many at least disabled!
    Here is such a mess!
  17. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic 11 March 2014 09: 59
    +1
    Tell me what to do. For 2 reasons, I have a very bad situation. 1 I live in the north of Ukraine, and we have a lot of binders here. 2 I have a cousin in the right sector, suddenly the nests already know that I am a Russophile, I will have a khan.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 11 March 2014 10: 13
      +3
      Oleg Prophetic UA
      Advice is not original, but simple and probably the most loyal-a family in an armful and in the Crimea! There is still such an opportunity!
      1. Oleg Prophetic
        Oleg Prophetic 11 March 2014 10: 25
        +1
        Yes, I don’t know from the family only a pregnant wife and where to her
        1. Gorinich
          Gorinich 11 March 2014 11: 12
          +1
          If in the north, it is better to Belarus, such as political asylum ...
          1. Oleg Prophetic
            Oleg Prophetic 11 March 2014 11: 42
            +1
            So I’ll do it to Batkorusi for 50 km
  18. aud13
    aud13 11 March 2014 10: 02
    +1
    If we are talking about doctors, then first of all in Ukraine psychiatrists should be in demand.
    At least you watch the video at those people who even now shout "Glory to Ukraine", "Glory to the Heroes" and doubt their mental usefulness. And also in the mental usefulness of their new leaders. Although everything may be simpler there - "Maidan Mavry" will do their job and topple. And these are simple wretches, because most likely there is nowhere to dump.
    And so the situation in Ukraine is already awful and is increasingly striving for a nightmare.
    From the west, as you can see, there are some vague promises to help and precise instructions on inciting western Ukraine to eastern. And if an armed conflict occurs, the EEC and the United States will not give money, under the simple pretext that Ukraine has not complied with any of the requirements.
    That is, ordinary Ukrainians (and many of the difficult ones) will lose almost everything.
  19. saag
    saag 11 March 2014 10: 04
    +1
    Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
    suddenly the nests already know that I am a Russophile, I will have a khan.

    Yes. a difficult matter, they may well have a brother to hold an action against you, here the choice is simple or stay alive or stay in Ukraine
  20. sinukvl
    sinukvl 11 March 2014 10: 17
    +2
    A little more, this doctor will treat Ukraine and Independent Ukraine will need another doctor, a loafer!
  21. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 11 March 2014 10: 58
    +2
    from the Don.
    Ukraine was infected 20 years ago, and it just won’t be able to cure! Moreover, those who infected didn’t go anywhere, These lice are still on the body and continue to work. To cut off the left hand and treat the right one? throughout Ukraine, young people are almost all infected with nationalism, Russophobia! And whether our partners will give us: calm treatment, but starvation often has a very beneficial effect on a sick body, infected cells die.
  22. darksoul
    darksoul 11 March 2014 11: 04
    +1
    Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
    Yes, I don’t know from the family only a pregnant wife and where to her


    In Crimea or through the port of Kerch to the South of Russia, but at least somewhere to Russia, here everyone is rooting for you, many people who want to accept help, collect help, the main thing is to take the first step
  23. darksoul
    darksoul 11 March 2014 11: 09
    +2
    Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
    Yes, I don’t know from the family only a pregnant wife and where to her


    moreover, your Russian passport is now easier to get than ever
  24. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic 11 March 2014 11: 14
    +2
    Well, I’m not living in the southeast, but in the north, and we have a lot of banderes because they may not give me a passport.
  25. DMB-78
    DMB-78 11 March 2014 11: 40
    0
    Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
    Well, I’m not living in the southeast, but in the north, and we have a lot of banderes because they may not give me a passport.

    Do you think it depends on the place of residence? explain your situation, I think they will go into position
  26. darksoul
    darksoul 11 March 2014 13: 03
    +1
    Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
    Well, I’m not living in the southeast, but in the north, and we have a lot of banderes because they may not give me a passport.


    the main condition for obtaining a passport as far as I know a citizen of Ukraine and knows the Russian language
  27. nod739
    nod739 11 March 2014 15: 38
    +1
    ... now I searched for the text of the anthem of Ukraine ,. and was not sickly surprised by these lines:
    Let’s become, brothers, in a bloody battle from San to Don,
    .....
    And we show that we, brothers, are Cossack family.


    I don’t even know how to comment on this straight away
  28. nod739
    nod739 11 March 2014 15: 50
    +1
    Again the story. What to do now? Indeed, if we further delved into the indestructible wilds of history, we would have noticed that Crimea was annexed to the Roman Empire under Gaia Julius Caesar.
    you obosht ???
    Gaius Julius Caesar did not even know that this existed - there were no interests and no intersections of economic routes, even when the Tatars settled there in the 15th century, no one really needed him, and only under the pressure of the Ottoman Empire and the permanent This raids of the Tatars to the north by the 16-17th century began to be of some interest.
  29. Nikich
    Nikich 12 March 2014 10: 31
    0
    Quote: nod739
    Again the story. What to do now? Indeed, if we further delved into the indestructible wilds of history, we would have noticed that Crimea was annexed to the Roman Empire under Gaia Julius Caesar.
    you obosht ???
    Gaius Julius Caesar did not even know that this existed - there were no interests and no intersections of economic routes, even when the Tatars settled there in the 15th century, no one really needed him, and only under the pressure of the Ottoman Empire and the permanent This raids of the Tatars to the north by the 16-17th century began to be of some interest.

    Well, not Caesar of course, but Byzantium there had its own colony