A contract for the supply of Poland 8 aircraft M-346 MASTER

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A contract for the supply of Poland 8 aircraft M-346 MASTER

As announced late last year, M-346 was chosen by Poland in a competition with Hawk AJT from BAE Systems and T-50 Lockheed Martin / KAI.

In the Polish Air Force, M-346 aircraft will replace the PZL TS11 Iskra, which are not suitable for training future F-16C / D pilots acquired by Poland in recent years. Currently, training is conducted in the United States.

To date, X-NUMX M-56 aircraft have been ordered: six by Italy, 346 Singapore, 12 Israel and 30 Poland.
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  1. +5
    28 February 2014 11: 42
    What is common between us and NATO? -pilots learn on the same (almost) aircraft - they have M346, we have Yak-130. laughing
    Z, S, - there is also a Chinese brother;)
    1. +3
      28 February 2014 11: 49
      If these are really brothers, then Chinese is more likely born in vitro.
      1. 0
        28 February 2014 22: 50
        But VAF-told the Israelis-which plane of these (YAK clones), which is better ... No. request
        1. 0
          1 March 2014 00: 48
          Quote: mirag2
          But VAF-told the Israelis-which plane of these (YAK clones), which is better ... No. request

          And by and large, it makes no difference to us request
          1. The Italians offered a counter contract for the purchase of weapons for the same amount.
          2. There is practically no difference in gliders, for training purposes - it is unimportant.
          3. Ground personnel are used to servicing Western-made engines, and the military-industrial complex to produce spare parts for them.
          4. Avionics and electronics, in the course of modernization, will still be replaced by our own.


          Elbit cockpit selected by the Boeing to upgrade the F / A-18E / F Super Hornet and the production of the F-15SE Silent Eagle. It can be installed on the M-346.

    2. +6
      28 February 2014 11: 49
      Quote: lelikas
      there is also a Chinese brother;


      Brother L-15 was born not without the help of the Yak-130 developers themselves, In 2002-04, according to the Director General of OKB named after A.S. Oleg Demchenko Yakovleva, "a Russian company commissioned by the Chinese corporation AVIC-2 (Aviation Industry of China / Second Group) provided advice and prepared an engineering note on the concept of the supersonic L-15 TCB."
      1. +3
        28 February 2014 12: 30
        Vadivak explains everything absolutely correctly, I will say even more, a group of Chinese engineers in the 90s even worked at the Yakovlev Design Bureau on this aircraft. Despite the technological similarity with the Yak-130, the Chinese aircraft is a separate class of aircraft, and is the result of a more progressive line of development of the Yak .In my opinion, a country that expects to have combat vehicles with "cruising supersonic" in its Air Force should also have supersonic TCB (the causal relationship is quite understandable). In view of this, one should hope for the appearance of a domestic supersonic TCB (on the platform of the same Yak- 130) and now the Chinese will be able to reproach us for plogiate feel because their L-15 took off earlier.
        1. +5
          28 February 2014 12: 43
          Quote: Argon
          and is the result of a more progressive line of development


          Yes, it is true that the Chinese has supersonic sound.

          There was infa at one time that, at the request of Iran, some of our private design bureaus (I don’t know) made a TCB called “Shafak” (“Dawn”), supersonic speed of 1,3M, equipped with an RD-33 engine (used on MiG -29), Russian avionics. Its modification in the form of a light front-line fighter should be equipped with Russian weapons. I know nothing more and never found a continuation on this topic.
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    3. 0
      1 March 2014 00: 32
      Quote: lelikas
      What is common between us and NATO? -pilots learn on the same (almost) aircraft - they have M346, we have Yak-130. laughing
      Z, S, - there is also a Chinese brother;)

      The glider is the same, the filling is different.
      Although the dashboards are similar.
      Yak-130


      M-346


      Chinese Hongdu L-15
  2. +1
    28 February 2014 12: 03
    Yashki is better. smile
    Like any source.

    In addition, my native design bureau (began its career there at the end of the 70's) has a very rich tradition in terms of sports aircraft.
    1. +2
      28 February 2014 12: 25
      And more beautiful!
    2. +3
      28 February 2014 12: 47
      Quote: Al_lexx
      In addition, my native design bureau (began its career there at the end of the 70's) has a very rich tradition in terms of sports aircraft.


      In my opinion, it all started

      AIR-1 (stands for Aleksey Ivanovich Rykov) .1927 year
      1. +1
        28 February 2014 15: 45
        Quote: Vadivak
        Quote: Al_lexx
        In addition, my native design bureau (began its career there at the end of the 70's) has a very rich tradition in terms of sports aircraft.


        In my opinion, it all started

        AIR-1 (stands for Aleksey Ivanovich Rykov) .1927 year

        I worked in a design bureau in a mock-up workshop. On the one hand there was an entrance to our workshop, and on the other, a door to the general's dressing room. Just at that time, we honed the fortieth vertical lines and laid the prototype of the non-modern American F-35. It is no secret that the documentation for this project was under Yeltsin. was officially sold to America.
        By the way, then, we, in the experimental workshop, had Siddeley Harrier. The same one, English. I even sat once in the cockpit. feel
        Just from there, a circuit was taken with an additional lifting fan.
        But the topic of vertical bars was covered, and on that the story of fighter boxes ended.

        So, in combination, our workshop was a stronghold of the factory aircraft model team. Then it was prestigious. And my mentor (Vladimir Bulatnikov), just made this very plane (model, rather large), to participate in international competitions and it was this model that made him (he is) the world champion, in 1982.
        There, even braces were pulled by real braces chiseled from brass. The engine was really fake, the real one was hidden under the hood. But the valves moved from above and the exhaust corresponded to the real ones.
        Ehhh ... how long has it been ...
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  3. Alexey Prikazchikov
    +1
    28 February 2014 12: 52
    Well, everything at the Polish aviation industry can put a bold cross; they had their own completely normal UTS. They acted like idiots with tanks.
  4. platitsyn70
    +1
    28 February 2014 12: 53
    Yes, all the same, we have more people who think outside the box and our equipment will always be better than in the West and NATO.
  5. +3
    28 February 2014 14: 03
    Yes, psheki made planes (our own and ours under license), helicopters ("Falcon", Mi-2 processing), tanks and cars, all the damned commies planted and revived what was destroyed by the war. And now everything will be fine, NATO will give it all, buying is cheaper than making. Only now they still have to pay for the service, well, nothing, Ukraine will help them.
  6. Leshka
    +1
    28 February 2014 18: 17
    Poland becomes a "super" power laughing
  7. dmitrij.blyuz
    0
    1 March 2014 14: 30
    Does anyone know this? Http: //warfiles.ru/show-49401-genshtab-reshil-sozdat-na-baze-mig-31-novyy-
    aircraft-mig-41.html
    1. 0
      1 March 2014 22: 17
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Does anyone know this? Http: //warfiles.ru/show-49401-genshtab-reshil-sozdat-na-baze-mig-31-novyy-

      aircraft-mig-41.html

      Futuristic. God grant, it will work out.