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Klitschko vs. Yatsenyuk, or Ukrainian bets are made

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On the Golos Rossii A note appeared by Ksenia Fokina, where she writes that the Ukrainian crisis “highlighted” the course of American policy towards eroding the partnership between Germany and Russia. Experts believe that the US is seeking to impose on Germany the role of "junior partner", and this, in turn, will weaken Berlin's position in the European Union. Today, the US is not interested in either strengthening Russia or strengthening the EU: after all, the first and second will weaken their own positions. The head of the Center for German Studies at the Institute of Europe, Vladislav Belov, believes that Russia and Germany have been brought together by the Ukrainian crisis, in connection with which Merkel and Putin regularly communicate by telephone. However, Joerg Forbig from the German Marshall Fund believes that Germany will just stand up to strengthening Russia along with all of Europe, and the “tension” between Moscow and Berlin will increase. In order to understand how true the assessments of experts are and how generally Germany and Europe see the Ukrainian situation, look through German newspapers.




Kai Dickmann and Paul Ronzheimer, chief editor and senior correspondent respectively "Bilda", they considered it important to interview Vitaliy Klitschko in Kiev (at the Millennium Hotel), since, according to his own statement, he is a presidential candidate in Ukraine. Among other things, the interview touched upon the Russian topic.

According to Mr. Klitschko, the Ukrainian people already feel: the oppression of the state and its police apparatus is gone forever.

When asked by a correspondent that Russia brought its army units on the Ukrainian border into combat readiness, and if Klitschko is not afraid of this, the former boxer replied that Russia's reaction was worrying him. He noted that "there were attempts by some media to depict a picture of a coup and protesting radicals." This is wrong, says Klitschko. However, Russia is currently trying to exert a strong influence on the east of Ukraine, Klitschko said, and therefore "we must be very careful."

A direct question followed: “Are you afraid of Russia's military invasion of Ukraine?” Klitschko said that he could not imagine such a thing, because such an escalation is undesirable for both parties. According to the presidential candidate, there is more likely a question about Yanukovych. He must be brought before a Ukrainian court. Further, Klitschko noted that Yanukovych was probably hiding in the Crimea, in a Russian military camp.

What can Germany do, asked the journalists, and what can the European Union do?

To this, Klitschko replied that the EU plays a very important role and must negotiate with Putin. And it would be desirable for the EU to play the role of a mediator and try to prevent unrest in the region.

Who has power in Kiev today? The ex-boxing champion believes that there is a power vacuum, and this can be dangerous. Therefore, he believes, it is necessary to form a transitional government “as soon as possible”, and it will solve the urgent problems in the country. It is not only about restoring order, but also about eliminating the threat of "default." As for the latter, V. Klitschko expects "urgent assistance from the EU."

«Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung» publishes news on the speech of US Secretary of State John Kerry.

The United States plans through the IMF and other international organizations to give Ukraine a loan of a billion dollars. In addition, the Obama administration is considering the option of direct assistance to Ukraine. D. Kerry said about this late Wednesday evening in Washington.

According to him, a billion is not enough to "proclaim the onset of democracy." Kerry's words about helping Ukraine received strong support in Congress. The interim Ukrainian government needs up to 35 billion of dollars in aid so that it can avoid bankruptcy, the German edition notes.

Frank Ninghuizen from Sueddeutsche Zeitung notes that the candidacy of Yulia Tymoshenko for the presidency seems to be very controversial to Ukrainians. Ukrainians, especially young ones, will vote for other candidates.

The author cites several opinions, from which it becomes clear that Tymoshenko today is not very popular and is only a kind of symbol of the past, and, according to some commentators, she has “dirty hands” that once concerned a “suitcase with money”. Others do not like the fact that Tymoshenko herself “hesitates.” The bulk of young people is also against the "enriched" Tymoshenko.

Many rely on Klitschko, who, unlike Tymoshenko, serves as a symbol of change.

In principle, let us add from myself, it is not surprising that the German newspaper (and not only it) focuses on Klitschko. It is known that Klitschko is a protege of the EU, unlike Yatsenyuk, promoted by the White House, which confirms the recent non-intelligent “factor” addressed to the EU from Victoria Nuland, the ladies from the State Department.

In another note from Sueddeutsche Zeitung it is reported that the “Council of Maidan” wants to promote Arseniy Yatsenyuk to the prime ministers. Yatsenyuk himself explained to the Maidan that the new government will face the huge problem of saving the country. (In a sense, sarcastically note in brackets, Mr. Yatsenyuk has already entered himself into history new Ukraine as a savior.)

However, the German edition notes, many have booed Yatsenyuk’s candidacy. People do not believe that this person will give the country a new start. This is despite the fact that “The Financial Times” called Yatseniuk “the favorite of the Americans,” the article notes. Although he was only 39 years old, he already held many major posts: he was Minister of Foreign Affairs, speaker of parliament and temporarily headed the Central Bank of Ukraine. In addition, he was a member of the “trio” that publicly opposed Yanukovych, along with Vitali Klitschko and nationalist Oleg Tyagnibok.

The note also refers to the reaction of Russia to the Ukrainian events.

In response to political upheavals in a neighboring country, Russia checked the combat readiness of its troops at the border, the authors write. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen on Wednesday at a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels did not find any provocations in this and nothing reprehensible at all. In his opinion, Moscow has not gone beyond the "framework." He believes that Russia fulfills all international obligations.

Meanwhile, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced measures to ensure the security of Russian facilities in Crimea. This peninsula, reminds a German newspaper, populated mainly by Russians, is the most important base of the Black Sea fleet Russia.

Thus, it is clear that today Washington is staking on Yatsenyuk, and Europe is on Klitschko, which indicates serious frictions between the EU and the US on the Ukrainian issue. The figure of Tymoshenko is not taken into account, it was written off as a "symbol of the past." In the actions of Russia on the border, NATO does not see anything threatening. However, the statements of representatives of NATO can not be trusted.

«Handelsblatt» talks about where all the Ukrainian money went (budget).

In the long term, according to a short article, Ukraine probably needs 25 billion euros. At the same time in the country there is an acute problem of lack of money in the treasury. They say about former President Viktor Yanukovych that he exported a billion of his own from Ukraine every year. However, there are other assessments - according to Elmar Brock, the head of the foreign affairs committee in the European Parliament, Yanukovych allegedly exported from eight to ten billion dollars. But which country? Others claim that even to Germany. Anyway, to Europe. Yanukovych’s clique has been rumored to have continued to draw from the budget in recent years.

Benjamin Bidder ("Spiegel online") discusses whether the Crimea will separate from Ukraine and why the Russians check the combat readiness of their army at the border. The article touches upon the issue of the Crimean Tatars.

Here they are, face to face, opponents and supporters of the Ukrainian revolution, the author writes. It occurs 700 kilometers to the south, on the Crimean peninsula. “Russia, Russia!” They shout in the square in front of the regional parliament (Simferopol), which is still officially called the Supreme Soviet, as if the Soviet Union were alive. "Glory to Ukraine!" - rushing battle cry from the other side. These cries are sometimes mixed with the slogan: “Allah Akbar!”, The journalist notes.

Opponents of the new revolution demand the reunification of the peninsula with Russia. The German author recalls that Crimea was a part of Russia until it was transferred to Ukraine in 1954 by the Kremlin leader Nikita Khrushchev, a native of Ukraine.

Russians make up about 60% of the population of Crimea, the author says. They watch Russian TV channels, and they say "rubles", even paying for Ukrainian "Grywna". Many in the Crimea attribute the fall of President Yanukovych to the activities of evil nationalists. Fighters of the Berkut police unit in Crimea are welcomed as heroes.

In the port of Sevastopol - the ships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. In Russia, every child knows that Sevastopol is a hero-city. During the siege and assault by the Germans in World War II, a German correspondent writes, tens of thousands of people were killed here; only nine houses in the whole city remained untouched.

Tatyana Ermakova, the head of the “Russian community” in Sevastopol, has already appealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin for help: after all, revolutionaries want to “destroy the Russian world.”

According to the author of the material, Russia, with its maneuvers near the western border, behaves like a Pyromaniac sitting on a powder keg. The Russians, although they form the majority of the population of the Crimea, will certainly face a minority of Tatars. Now they make up about 15 percent of the population and are the main opponents of unification with Russia. They will provide "decent resistance," said their leader Refat Chubarov.

But the article by Julia Smirnova from Simferopol, published in «Die Welt».

“I am sure that Crimea should belong to Russia. We can no longer live with these nationalists, ”says the pro-Russian Igor.

“We will not allow splitting the Crimea. Crimea belongs to Ukraine, not Russia, ”says Ruslan, a Crimean Tatar.

Those who stand nearby, intervene in the dispute.

"A million Tatars were destroyed by Russia." “And who was in power, the Georgians Stalin and Beria, or the Russians?” - “Our fathers fought together against fascism, and now you support the Nazis in Kiev.” - “Read the story!” - “You are provocateurs.” “We are here for our ideas.” “If Russia sends troops to the Crimea, we will protect ourselves.”

In Simferopol, the capital of the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, yesterday there were fights. People beat each other here and there, writes Julia Smirnova. At least 20 people were injured. One man died of a heart attack, this was confirmed by the Ministry of Health of the Crimea.

A minority of Crimean Tatars want to prevent the separation of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea at any cost. "Ukraine! Ukraine! ”They shout. And they also shout: “Down with the gang!” And “Allah Akbar.” Some of these people tried to storm the parliament building.

The Russians, in turn, chant: “Russia!” And “Golden Eagle”.

The national conflict on the peninsula, which plays a special role for Russia, can lead to serious consequences, according to the author of the material.

“If the question of separation is raised, it will be very dangerous,” says Russian Evgenia Nikolaevna. In her opinion, steps should be taken now for reconciliation. In Ukraine, there should be a place for everyone - Ukrainians, Russians and Tatars.

So, judging by the German newspapers, the following picture emerges of how Europe (at least Germany) imagines the Ukrainian situation.

First, the Crimea will remain in Ukraine. Because NATO will observe the interests of a united and independent Ukraine, the statements of Secretary General Rasmussen are a clear indication of Russia to fulfill "all international obligations."

Secondly, the EU and the US are now playing the Klitschko vs. Yatsenyuk game (or Yatsenyuk vs. Klitschko, as you like). In this case, Klitschko himself is in contact with the German press, which also speaks of his European preferences. The presidential candidate expects "urgent assistance from the EU" and not from the United States.

Thirdly, Russia, most likely, will go, let's say, parallel to the German course - and, accordingly, against the American course. Germany is the first economic force of the European Union, and Russia is strongly dependent on the EU as a gas supplier (especially if we recall the recent progress with the South Stream project).

Fourth, in Ukraine, the new “revolution” won. In this, it seems, in Germany, and indeed in Europe (and in the United States too), no one doubts. Speech only about the one who will win elections - here political spears will also break.

As for Yanukovych, his, as the Russian resource writes RBCdiscovered in the suburbs. RBC was informed about this by one of the major Russian entrepreneurs, and then the information was confirmed by a high-ranking Russian official. The overthrown ruler is in Barvikha, in the sanatorium of the Office of the President of Russia.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
Photos used:
Daniel Biskup; http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/vitali-klitschko/bild-interview-mit-vitali-klitschko-34850550.bild.html
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 27 February 2014 10: 09
    +23
    It was reported that the buildings of the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea and the Council of Ministers of Crimea were occupied by armed people in uniform without identification marks. Their demands have not yet been set. "


    Who could it be??

    There is a simple FACT - the power in UKRAINE has been replaced in an illegal way - and you need to say this WORLDWIDE (both to the Germans and the USA and EUROPE) - and one illegal action entails a chain of the following violations of the law.

    Here we have the right to act on the basis of this FACT.
    All subsequent steps of the regime that seized power can not legally be recognized as having no legal force.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 27 February 2014 10: 21
      +12
      Around 05:50 mv on February 27, 2014, the chairman of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatra people, Refat Chubarov, told the FB:
      "They called 20 minutes ago .... They said that the buildings of the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea and the Council of Ministers of Crimea are occupied by armed men in uniforms without identification marks ... They have not yet set requirements ..." According to BSNews, the information is true. The Russian flag is hoisted on the building of the Crimean Council of Ministers.

      Crimean parliament deputy Refat Chubarov on behalf of the Crimean Tatar people calls on all residents of Crimea to remain calm and not go out onto the streets in the situation of the seizure of the buildings of the Crimean parliament and the ARC Council of Ministers by unknown armed people. This Chubarov told the Center for Investigative Journalism.
      “The buildings of the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea and the Council of Ministers are occupied by unidentified armed people without identification marks, highly trained with modern weapons. I urge residents of Crimea to remain calm and not to show initiative. The release of the occupied buildings is the competence of professionals and law enforcement agencies, ”Chubarov emphasized.

      http://www.blackseanews.net/read/77155 - цинк

      This is reported by "Navigator" with reference to a source in the Crimean headquarters of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. According to the source, at about 4 am a group of armed people entered the building - about 30 people in black uniforms, in masks and with Kalashnikov assault rifles. Now the police in Simferopol are on alert. Security officials set up a cordon near the parliament building.
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 27 February 2014 10: 23
        +14
        Isn't it Kiev "Berkut"?
        1. vasiliysxx
          vasiliysxx 27 February 2014 11: 09
          +18
          A man said well: the Russians came in with a capital letter. good
          1. lukke
            lukke 27 February 2014 18: 54
            +6
            A man said well: the Russians came in, with a capital letter
            I would say: the Russians are in the shower, but according to the passport, de jure is still citizens of Ukraine. Klitschko is afraid of our military at the border, and now he would have to be afraid of his fellow citizens, whom they threw to the full
            In Crimea rebels fighters of the militia special forces "Golden eagle". This, according to UNIAN, said the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the "Fatherland", the former head of the Crimean police Gennady.

            According to him, we are talking about fighters who "did not agree with the populist decision that Avakov made." The other day, recall, the interim head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov, who took this post after the change of power in the country, announced the dissolution of the Golden Eagle.

            “Today they seized the post, which leads from the Kherson region and the second, which is in Armyansk,” the “Left Bank” quotes the deputy. “They put up armored personnel carriers, put up grenade launchers, put up machine guns, machine guns and the like.” Participants in the riot, in his words, are not only fighters from the Crimea, but also their colleagues who arrived in the region.
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        2. PN
          PN 27 February 2014 11: 20
          +4
          30 people is not much. Now, if now the city is also pulling in to help them, the situation will become more intense than yesterday. Pride, of course, takes pride, but it would not be only 5 minutes.
          1. rolik
            rolik 27 February 2014 12: 18
            +6
            Quote: PN
            30 people is not much

            To control one building is normal.
          2. T-73
            T-73 27 February 2014 19: 46
            +3
            Quote: PN
            30 people is not much

            There were fewer Panfilov heroes, but here the message itself is important - there is a core that is ready for a lot and clearly shown in the name of what. Tatars for a long time muddied, here the bandwagon, there is a poke, would not have remained in history as their khanate in the end. Natsik and they will be cleaned up if they deal with the Russians. But being dumbheads they don’t understand this
          3. Sandov
            Sandov 27 February 2014 20: 21
            +2
            Quote: PN
            30 people is not much. Now, if now the city is also pulling in to help them, the situation will become more intense than yesterday. Pride, of course, takes pride, but it would not be only 5 minutes.

            All Berkut residents urgently arrive in 6a to help their people to the east of Ukraine. Now it is being decided with the Nazis or with the people. Down with the junta of banderlogs.
          4. siberalt
            siberalt 27 February 2014 20: 38
            +2
            There are not many who need to know. The parliament is working calmly and there are no complaints against them. Who comes in and out counts. And the police were ordered to keep quiet. Watch the videos, everything is visible there.
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        3. Sid.74
          Sid.74 27 February 2014 12: 26
          +4
          Quote: Alex 241
          Isn't it Kiev "Berkut"?

          Alexander! Good day! hi
          In general, the situation is not entirely clear! Since the captured ones allegedly refused to accept the Russian delegation!

          Currently, there are about 60 people in the building. all invaders are well armed, Interfax-Ukraine reports
          I hope that this is not a provocation of the "Maidan"! Because this situevina gives Avakov a reason to use the police in Crimea against ours, and what kind of police they recruited in Kiev is not known

          In Crimea, the buildings of the Supreme Council and the government of autonomy are controlled by the fighters of the “Berkut”. "The buildings are happy and the government of Crimea captured the fighters of the Sevastopol Golden Eagle", - the radio station "Moscow says" in his microblog.
          What kind of non-police methods! Laws do not accept! Why the hell does she need this thought!

          This is what Interfax-Ukraine is writing about (lately there have been a lot of drops behind this agency!) So I read it with caution!
          In turn, the Interfax agency, citing local sources, reports that the buildings are controlled by representatives of the self-defense of the Russian-speaking population of Crimea. According to sources, self-defense units from the Russian-speaking population spontaneously form throughout the peninsula, which are sent to the capital of autonomy. Earlier, an employee of the press center of the Crimean parliament told the agency that unknown people had removed the guards and got inside. Over both buildings raised Russian flags.

          The situation with the Tatars and the government of the current Kiev, figovy not where! We are waiting for the development of the situation! I really hope that full-fledged fighting will not come!
        4. Ascetic
          Ascetic 27 February 2014 12: 27
          +16
          Quote: Alex 241
          Isn't it Kiev "Berkut"?

          Hello Alexander!
          Probably.
          The Coordination Council for the organization of the Sevastopol City Administration for the City Life Support has decided to create a municipal police unit "Berkut".

          Order 1. On the creation of a special municipal police unit "Berkut"
          Coordinating Council on the organization of the Sevastopol City Administration for Life Support of Sevastopol

          ORDER No. 1
          February 26, 2014

          On the creation of a special municipal police unit "Berkut"

          To maintain public order in Sevastopol, to prevent unlawful actions, provocations, riots and looting, a special municipal police unit "Berkut" should be formed.

          To appoint the acting commander of the lieutenant colonel of militia Cherednichenko A.V.

          Chairman
          A.M. Roan
          Sevastopol

          link

          A military sanatorium in Yalta arrived unit of the Russian Armed Forces to strengthen protection.


          Sevastopol on Nakhimov Square meets Golden Eagle from Kiev. With a fallen voice, the unit commander thanks the Sevastopol team for their support



          After a short drag, the people of Kiev again came out against the terrorists to show what a peaceful action was, and the inaction of the new government.



          In general, all this happening in Ukraine resembles 1917. The February bourgeois-liberal revolution has come to pass, then we are waiting for the June crisis and DUAL AUTHORITY after the May elections and .... I can’t even predict further.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 27 February 2014 13: 05
            +17
            Yes, STANISLAV SITUATION was driven into time trouble — it is developing quickly and unpredictably — the blame for this lies entirely with the Maydan who did not want to come to power in a legal way.
            Now the hands of the Russian-speaking population are untied, because the power has been usurped by a handful of Galicians and the further expansion of the escalation will depend on the ambitions of the puppet masters.

            THERE WILL BE DARKNESS AND MOUNTING IN RUSSIA threatening with all sorts of sanctions and consequences, and now much depends on the staunchness of the president.

            With PUTIN it is necessary to blow off dust particles to protect it from any chance that loves to arrange the west.
          2. Papakiko
            Papakiko 27 February 2014 14: 25
            +4
            My regards hi
            Quote: Ascetic
            In general, all this happening in Ukraine resembles 1917. The February bourgeois-liberal revolution has come to pass, then we are waiting for the June crisis and DUAL AUTHORITY after the May elections and .... I can’t even predict further.

            In a dry pressed form it still looks like this, but it needs to be supplemented with a filling based on the events in Syria, Libya and Egypt.
            You need to prepare for the worst.
            "If you want the world to prepare for war."
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 27 February 2014 20: 26
              +1
              Quote: Papakiko
              In a dry pressed form it still looks like this, but it needs to be supplemented with a filling based on the events in Syria, Libya and Egypt.
              You need to prepare for the worst.
              "If you want the world to prepare for war."

              All links of the same chain, which are drawn to amers and NATO.
          3. predator.3
            predator.3 27 February 2014 15: 17
            +4
            Hmmm, the people of Kiev started scratching their turnips! the revolution goes into phase 2, the phase of "sobering up", and by the way those "men" with shields, these are not city dwellers, they are villagers drinks a certain category!
        5. Ustian
          Ustian 27 February 2014 13: 12
          +3
          Isn't it Kiev "Berkut"?
          "Falcons" Zhirinovsky. yes
        6. bif
          bif 27 February 2014 13: 27
          +13
          http://www.contrpost.com/index.php/108-russia/18177-komu-strashny-volkodavy
          According to unofficial information, special forces of the GRU and the Black Sea Marines are "working" in Crimea! So no one from the urko-army or the "friendly train" of the Natsiks will even come close to entering the Crimea, especially someone from NATO. This is not for you "peaceful demonstrations" to arrange and kill an unarmed Berkut.
          1. Anper
            Anper 27 February 2014 20: 21
            +1
            Quote: bif
            The "friendly train" of the Natsiks will not even come close to the Crimea,

            However, "Right Sector" out of fright made an official statement that he would not go anywhere and urged to thoughtful resolution of the situation (!).They now have other tasks, they seized the CEC and said that they would be there until the end of the election so that everything would be honest, patsansky. S, Ts. U, K, O. infantry.
        7. Jin
          Jin 27 February 2014 14: 20
          +2
          Quote: Alex 241
          Isn't it Kiev "Berkut"?


          Sanya, hi! I thought that these are the fighters who shot from the location with weapons ... in an unknown direction ...
      2. SSR
        SSR 27 February 2014 16: 25
        +5
        In the course of Refat Chubarov has already come off reality and the article’s aftyr apparently smoked something))))
        I am of Crimea, will certainly encounter a minority of Tatars. Now they make up about 15 percent of the population and are the main opponents of unification with Russia. They will provide “worthy resistance,” said their leader Refat Chubarov.

        What about decent resistance ?! Eh, you see Refat did not hear Kadyrov's statements, so let's see how once again the Crimean Tatars will "bravely" stand their ground.
        17 h ago2News NEWSru.com :: Kadyrov is ready to send Chechen ... to Crimea
        Commenting on the situation in Crimea to journalists, Kadyrov recalled that a large number of Russians live there. "We are always with them and, if need be ...
        NEWSru.com copy more

        Oh well...
    2. Wellych
      Wellych 27 February 2014 10: 48
      +3
      Well, maybe our Feisty needs all of Ukraine as a fraternal people, and not just a peninsula? I think there are still options, especially since time works for us.
      1. 120352
        120352 27 February 2014 11: 08
        0
        And who is this, your Feisty? Present, pleasssssss.
        1. PN
          PN 27 February 2014 11: 21
          +2
          Well, who? V.V. Zhirinovsky)))
        2. Combitor
          Combitor 28 February 2014 00: 06
          0
          Quote: 120352
          And who is this, your Feisty? Present, pleasssssss.

          And who did you think of?
      2. _Forgiven_
        _Forgiven_ 27 February 2014 12: 21
        +14
        Russia does not need the whole of Ukraine, and why should it actually warm the snake on its chest in the form of "peaceful demonstrators of the Western world." So that they want to make another coup again? Enough will be the South-Eastern part together with the Crimea and the trick is in the bag. The entire industry will go to Russia, and in the western region all that will be left is to grow beetroot and heat blast furnaces with it in order to smelt souvenirs for Lviv tourists, because there is not much more there. A month will pass, maximum two, and the guys will roll up their money and back to work in Poland and so on.
        1. lukke
          lukke 27 February 2014 19: 21
          +1
          so what? and then the western lands of Ukraine will have to be populated?))
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          1. Ustian
            Ustian 27 February 2014 19: 24
            +4
            Quote: lukke
            so what? and then the western lands of Ukraine will have to be populated?))

            There Bandervirus walks. Let Chistopol be better.
        3. Galan
          Galan 27 February 2014 20: 24
          +3
          To eliminate the injustice of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact, to offer Poland the borders of 1939, but without Western Belarus. There is its own independent state.
          Subcarpathian Russia should be self-determined. And the Poles themselves will deal with Bandera in the best European traditions.
          1. tundra
            tundra 28 February 2014 14: 59
            0
            Oh, I would have laughed, watching how the panders of banderlogs would begin to tilt. laughing
        4. stappler
          stappler 27 February 2014 20: 59
          0
          I completely agree with you, dear
    3. Krapovy32
      Krapovy32 27 February 2014 11: 13
      +2
      http://anna-news.info/node/13745.Обращение президента Украины . А по новостям , захватившие здание сказали что будут общаться только с представителями которых выберет народ .
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 27 February 2014 11: 40
        0
        Quote: Speckled32
        http://anna-news.info/node/13745
        Are there other sources?
        1. Krapovy32
          Krapovy32 27 February 2014 12: 24
          0
          http://www.echo.msk.ru/news/1267578-echo.html
      2. Krapovy32
        Krapovy32 27 February 2014 12: 18
        +1
        A column of armored personnel carriers left the Guards. There is our part and take-off. The SBU said it was sending forces to intercept the armored personnel carriers. And the Cossacks say that it was they who seized buildings in the Crimea. Information from the forum of Sevastopol. Some write from the scene.
        1. Ustian
          Ustian 27 February 2014 13: 17
          +4
          Quote: Speckled32
          SBU stated that it sends forces to intercept armored personnel carriers

          Reminds Georgian hamsters at one time.
          1. Krapovy32
            Krapovy32 27 February 2014 14: 53
            0
            http://atr.ua/misc/page05 транслируют онлайн от стен ВС Крыма . Только что Могилев сказал что бтры сами остановились . Не до конца все таки ясно что происходит . Надеюсь остатки армии украинец не подчинятся приказу штурмовать . В сети уже появились статьи что Львовский Беркут отправят на подавление восстания в Крым , они согласны на это что бы " искупить вину перед народом " . Су.и трусливые если решаться приехать .
            1. Viktor Shmagin
              Viktor Shmagin 27 February 2014 16: 43
              +7
              Then they will kneel before the Crimeans, and again repent
              1. psg72
                psg72 27 February 2014 18: 00
                +3
                They are not used to it!
                1. tundra
                  tundra 28 February 2014 15: 03
                  0
                  You shouldn’t be so, and if they have hostages. In Kiev, they were not kneeling. Some faces of banderlogs of what are standing, these before the murder, women and children will not stop.
      3. Krapovy32
        Krapovy32 27 February 2014 12: 23
        0
        http://www.aif.ru/euromaidan/uanews/1114654
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 27 February 2014 14: 58
          +1
          And here's another:

          http://www.unian.net/politics/890524-rossiyskie-btr-pod-simferopolem-razvernulis
          -v-napravlenii-bazyi-smi.html
      4. Krapovy32
        Krapovy32 27 February 2014 12: 58
        +1
        In Sevastopol they say that the order of Yanukovych has already been transferred to the ships of the Ukrainian Navy. I called my friends in Sevastopol, the people do not understand what to do. Move to the council building and protect the soldiers in the building from the assault or sit on the priest and wait for the development of events.
        1. Ustian
          Ustian 27 February 2014 19: 21
          0
          Quote: Speckled32
          sit on the pope and wait for the development of events.

          So it is, of course, more convenient!
      5. T-73
        T-73 27 February 2014 20: 55
        0
        Quote: Speckled32
        converse

        does not mean to negotiate
    4. Krapovy32
      Krapovy32 27 February 2014 11: 51
      0
      Invaders of Parliament and Government of Crimea named

      The buildings of the Parliament and Government of Crimea, the capture of which became known on the morning of February 27, are controlled by "representatives of the self-defense of the Russian-speaking population of Crimea." This was reported by Interfax with reference to local sources. RIA Novosti disseminated similar information, referring to its correspondent.
    5. predator.3
      predator.3 27 February 2014 15: 05
      +8
      Many rely on Klitschko, who, unlike Tymoshenko, serves as a symbol of change.

      I am for Klitschko-president, then Bush Jr. is just the limit of intelligence!
      “We will not allow splitting the Crimea. Crimea belongs to Ukraine, not Russia, ”says Ruslan, a Crimean Tatar.

      Say it to Field Marshals Dolgoruky and Potemkin!
    6. Anper
      Anper 27 February 2014 18: 44
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Here we have the right to act on the basis of this FACT.

      Tse separatism! Our borrowed without zbroї!All si vv and that mіlіtsії(?) they’ve taken a trio! Tse є terrorist act! I speck (dot). Turchinov.
    7. Muadipus
      Muadipus 27 February 2014 19: 43
      +1
      http://anna-news.com/node/13745
      Yanukovych showed up and issued a decree.
  2. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 27 February 2014 10: 17
    +18
    The porridge is brewed grandiose.
    It’s not grateful to give any forecasts now.
    We will wait for the decision of our President.
    I hope that in any situation Russia will be in the black.
    1. just exp
      just exp 27 February 2014 10: 52
      +12
      now there can be no forecasts at all, higher powers have come into play, won’t talk to the dead already.
      1. Jin
        Jin 27 February 2014 14: 27
        +5
        Quote: just explo
        now there can be no forecasts at all, higher powers have come into play, won’t talk to the dead already.


        Hmm ... his brains died! Wet bark again sad ...
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 28 February 2014 15: 53
          0
          but is there too much attention to the German boxer ?????????
      2. Duelist
        Duelist 27 February 2014 16: 52
        +2
        He smoked weed, and now advertises it laughing
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      4. siberalt
        siberalt 27 February 2014 20: 59
        0
        Higher powers are a people united in rage. There are options with provoking a popular rebellion. Then you can’t do without a civil one. They will sweep away everything.
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    2. 120352
      120352 27 February 2014 11: 07
      +3
      I'm afraid you are wrong! Everything was just against Russia and the whole Russian world.
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 27 February 2014 11: 29
        +3
        Is it interesting whether the Pope wanted to see his son an erotomaniac boxer in the future of his country in Ukraine?
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 27 February 2014 12: 10
          +3
          One thing I know for sure - after that, he no longer wanted to see him at all.
        2. Combitor
          Combitor 28 February 2014 00: 46
          +2
          Klitschko: "He should appear before a Ukrainian court. Klitschko further noted that Yanukovych is probably hiding in Crimea, in a Russian military camp."
          And Vitalik does not want to read the criminal codes, for example, of Ukraine, as well as Germany and the United States? What "shines" there for organizing a coup d'etat? In any case, the prospect for Klitschko and the rest of the leaders of the "maydanutyh" is bleak. The time will come and the only furniture in their "apartments" will be bunks with a stool and a table, and from the plumbing - a washbasin and a "parasha".
  3. Name
    Name 27 February 2014 10: 17
    +10
    "According to Mr. Klitschko, the Ukrainian people already feel: the oppression of the state and its police apparatus is gone forever." and chaos began, but "spiders in the bank" is simply necessary for Russia, chaos, because it can be CONTROLLED not only from the US side. wink
    1. 120352
      120352 27 February 2014 11: 05
      +1
      I do not see facts regarding Russia. Please bring in not to be unfounded, Mrss!
    2. Basil123
      Basil123 27 February 2014 13: 06
      +1
      There is such a thought winked ...... make the western part a buffer and go out to your sea. Given the fact that GDP knew about the preparation of these events, they might have pushed them a little earlier to play their part
  4. Boris55
    Boris55 27 February 2014 10: 25
    +10
    Fourth, in Ukraine, a new “revolution” won. In this, it seems, in Germany, and indeed in Europe (and in the USA too), no one doubts. It's only about who will win the election - this is where political spears will break.

    To give legitimacy to the new government just elections are not enough. Everyone who participates in them recognizes the power of the Maydanut! Attempts to justify their behavior by participating in the presidential election of such scoundrels as M. Dobkin by a struggle for the interests of the southeast are nothing more than noodles - in fact, they only think about themselves.
    Chosen "by the majority of the people", no matter who, so you can say - the whole people of Ukraine recognized the new government ...
  5. ImPerts
    ImPerts 27 February 2014 10: 27
    +2
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Who could it be??

    And this is the Pskov hi
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 27 February 2014 10: 30
      +17
      Quote: ImPerts
      And this is the Pskov
      35 escaped with weapons from one military unit of Kiev "Berkut" gathered a partisan detachment and went to Sevastopol or Donetsk.

      This was stated by one of the leaders of the capital "Berkut".

      Recall that the incident was announced the day before by the acting Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov.

      According to the security official, “the guys took up arms and left, and in fact, a partisan detachment appeared in Ukraine.
      "These lads are trained both physically and tactically," - said in "Berkut". According to the source, “these are professionals: they threw away the phones.

      The retired senior lieutenant Gennady Kucher, who served in Berkut, assumes that the fugitives "will appear in Donetsk or Sevastopol in a couple of days," the KP reports.
      1. 120352
        120352 27 February 2014 11: 01
        +23
        Bon voyage to the Berkutovites! Successfully get there! I hope this time you will not be betrayed.
      2. just exp
        just exp 27 February 2014 11: 06
        -2
        Otano Kag.
        and if I drop the phone, will I become a professional too?
        1. Letun
          Letun 27 February 2014 12: 13
          +3
          Quote: just EXPL
          Otano Kag.
          and if I drop the phone, will I become a professional too?

          It turns out that everyone who watched the movie "Black Boomer" is potentially professional military smile
        2. nemec55
          nemec55 27 February 2014 12: 14
          +5
          No, you need to at least throw two phones away, and then you will become a professional phone ejector.
        3. T100
          T100 27 February 2014 13: 56
          +6
          For very young and inexperienced professionals:
          A mobile phone, even if it is switched off, responds to the request of the mobile operator's network and allows to locate the phone with an accuracy of several hundred meters. And why do the guys and "Berkut" need it?
          1. just exp
            just exp 27 February 2014 14: 40
            +1
            oh, but this is the discovery of the century, otherwise we did not know, there is only a couple of BUT, professionalism as a fighter is not determined by this.
  6. kotvov
    kotvov 27 February 2014 10: 28
    +1
    it will be necessary to expose, but this is until the defense of the sun.
  7. nemec55
    nemec55 27 February 2014 10: 34
    +17
    for the EU to act as a mediator and try to prevent unrest in the region

    NATO to introduce troops or what ??? This scum is dumb (Klitschko) Should be brought to trial in the future by the Russian Federation for the genocide of the Slavs and inciting ethnic hatred. And the Russian court is obliged (by all means) to replace the Hague court.
    1. 120352
      120352 27 February 2014 10: 59
      +6
      Not only these three freaks + Yarosh should appear before the court, but also those who financed all this. It is clear that the impoverished Ukraine could not arrange such a performance for its own funds, which were completely absent.
  8. Suhov
    Suhov 27 February 2014 10: 34
    +3
    Crimean deputy Refat Chubarov calls on behalf of the Crimean Tatar people all residents of Crimea in a situation with the seizure of buildings of the Crimean parliament and the Council of Ministers of the ARC by unknown armed people keep calm, don't go out on the streets. This Chubarov told the Center for Investigative Journalism.

    This is how they clean things up: without noise and dust ...
    1. 120352
      120352 27 February 2014 10: 57
      +2
      It is nice that among the Crimean Tatars there are sensible people.
      1. vadimN
        vadimN 27 February 2014 11: 59
        +10
        It is not clear only that they forgot in the European Union, and even in alliance with the Nazis ...
        In my opinion, this is a blunder of our propaganda machine ... As part of Russia, the Tatars live quite comfortably. Tatarstan is one of the regions with the highest standard of living ... In addition, if Crimea returns to Russia, both budgetary and private investments will definitely flow into it, which means that all residents of Crimea will have work and an increasing standard of living (and this will definitely not happen with European integration, which is directly spelled out in the association agreement). So the Tatars need to explain it!
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      3. 123dv
        123dv 27 February 2014 21: 37
        +2
        Quote: 120352
        It is nice that among the Crimean Tatars there are sensible people.

        Yes, they think sensibly when scared. They love to shout about the world from the rostrum.
        But this is after the military demonstrated decisiveness and strength.
        But yesterday, he personally led the clashes near the Crimean parliament. They used sticks, threw heavy objects at people, used gas ...
        As soon as it became clear that they had gone too far and the dead appeared in the ranks of the defenders of the parliament, the Tatars immediately departed in an organized manner on command. And defenseless old people perished. The man’s heart could not stand it, and his grandmother was simply trampled.
        Do not be afraid to attack women and the elderly ...
        http://politobzor.net/show-14056-krymskie-tatary-schitayut-poluostrov-svoim.html
  9. Tuzik
    Tuzik 27 February 2014 10: 42
    +6
    the West wants to wash Russia with blood, this is their primary goal, for this they will do anything, they really need 2nd Syria on the border with Russia. So unfortunately the victims will have to wait, this machine is already running. S.ki
    1. 120352
      120352 27 February 2014 10: 56
      +3
      I hope we have enough mind and will not succumb to Western games.
  10. sh1749
    sh1749 27 February 2014 10: 43
    +4
    Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, etc., spiders in the bank.
  11. Burmistr
    Burmistr 27 February 2014 10: 46
    +3
    Look, again the Western press is misleading the local electorate. Crimean Tatars are now in the foreground
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 27 February 2014 11: 21
      +8
      Maybe the Tatars in Crimea are not bad people, but the mullahs and Wahhabi preachers are teeming with them.
      Wahhabis are the forefront of the US Army.
      In addition to them, there are a lot of purchased "big babays among the Tatars" who are listened to, and who also work off the investments of the West.
      1. Landwarrior
        Landwarrior 27 February 2014 12: 22
        +3
        Quote: mojohed2012
        Wahhabis are the forefront of the US Army.

        Well, the Wahhabis are generally an ideal shock ram. Because with the same ease they slaughter all Christians-giaurs, Jews, Buddhists and even other Muslims who profess, in their opinion, "impure Islam". Something like this hi
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 27 February 2014 20: 36
          +1
          Quote: Landwarrior
          Well, the Wahhabis are generally an ideal shock ram. Because with the same ease they slaughter all Christians-giaurs, Jews, Buddhists and even other Muslims who profess, in their opinion, "impure Islam". Something like this

          What we all saw - in the countries of the Maghreb and Syria.
          1. Landwarrior
            Landwarrior 1 March 2014 00: 26
            0
            Quote: Sandov
            What we all saw - in the countries of the Maghreb and Syria.

            And not only ... Until now, something is aching for a change in the weather. hi However, this is a completely different story. hi
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  12. Floock
    Floock 27 February 2014 10: 46
    +8
    The EU and the US must now draw Russia into this mess - either by the introduction of troops, or by the issue of money.
    Yanukovych in Barvikha, the armed and organized Golden Eagle is moving, apparently, to the Crimea.
    Let the Ukrainian people take full gusto of Maidan and democracy, and when the situation is ripe - there will be troops and Russia, and money, and a diplomatic roof, and the actions of special services to the scum that has now floated all over))
    Putin is doing everything right. He has aces up his sleeve.
    Too bad people just suffer.
    1. Krapovy32
      Krapovy32 27 February 2014 11: 24
      +4
      Well, judging by the president’s appeal, there’s something very serious. And it seems to me that the buildings were occupied by Berkutyat, families were hidden in Sevastopol. They really will not have life under the new government. Golden eagle and explosives yesterday in a civilian in Simferopol were in the crowd. Apparently someone decided on extreme measures.
  13. Gardamir
    Gardamir 27 February 2014 10: 50
    +3
    And who is betting on Yarosh? The whole coup rests on him. He will send this holy trinity and take power himself. Of course, I could be wrong. But so far not a single forecast for Little Russia and New Russia has been fulfilled.
    1. ultra
      ultra 27 February 2014 15: 18
      +4
      Quote: Gardamir
      And who is betting on Yarosh? The whole coup rests on him. He will send this holy trinity and take power himself.

      That would be the most ideal option for us!
  14. Phil
    Phil 27 February 2014 10: 51
    +8
    Well done! Not just one banderlog to run with machine guns around Ukraine.
  15. tungus
    tungus 27 February 2014 10: 54
    +12
    The situation is bad for us. Americans played beautifully. We cannot send troops to Ukraine, because this is what the endos would very much like. Drawing Russia into conflict is just a gift for them. And if, on this wave, Europeans, on the other hand, harness themselves, it can be said that the states have achieved their goal.
    But we will not be able to intervene if the Ukrainian Natsiks begin to clean up the Russian-speaking population.
    Zugzwang.
    The best thing you can do today is pull time. Ukraine as a single state is not long left. There is no money, there is a default on the nose, they will not wait for financial assistance from Europe, because there is no money in Europe either.
    Now the division of power has begun, and this will only increase the split and fragmentation of the putschists. The Nazis themselves will not leave Maidan, and therefore chaos will only increase. In a month or two, the people in Ukraine will simply have nothing to eat. Then, in the southeast, not 200-300 people will take to the streets, but hundreds of thousands. And this moment must wait. Russia will help these people who have taken to the streets. Financially, politically, maybe we will render military assistance. But we will not enter the troops. In order for a legitimate secession of the southeast to occur, the decision should be made by the residents of these territories themselves. And for this decision to mature and take shape, time is needed. Therefore, you need to wait and pull the time. To conduct training there so that the banderlogs are not forgotten, to seek out and finance the future leaders of Little Russia, to slow down Europe and the USA in all possible ways. Take time and wait.
    1. Suhow
      Suhow 27 February 2014 20: 26
      0
      given the separation of views on these events, for example, in Kiev, wait-the best
  16. 120352
    120352 27 February 2014 10: 54
    +4
    Klitschko against Yatsenyuk? Incomplete picture. Each of the three (Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Tyagnibok) against the other two. Everything is according to the law of the genre. Cockroaches in the bank. Now the ball is ruled by the fascist Yarosh.
  17. Name
    Name 27 February 2014 11: 01
    +1
    According to Mr. Klitschko, the Ukrainian people are already feeling: the oppression of the state and its police apparatus is gone forever ...and the lawlessness began, which both Boxer and Rabbit will drink, in the role of "leaders" once again "non-existent"; the lady with the scythe did smart, she will drive up to the hat analysis ... and take off the "foam". hi
  18. Grandfather Nikola
    Grandfather Nikola 27 February 2014 11: 02
    +9
    You can go the third way, do not stay in Ukraine and do not join Russia. The east, south and Crimea will unite in the Republic of Novorossia.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 27 February 2014 11: 26
      +4
      I personally see this exit as the most profitable for Russia and the Crimea - the east.
      Here, it seems, Russia did not climb, and the West has nothing to say. And from the Berkut persecuted from all over Ukraine, one can form the regiments of the new Novorossiysk army.
  19. Horn
    Horn 27 February 2014 11: 18
    +3
    Quote: The same Lech
    It was reported that the buildings of the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea and the Council of Ministers of Crimea were occupied by armed people in uniform without identification marks. Their demands have not yet been set. "


    Who could it be??

    There is a simple FACT - the power in UKRAINE has been replaced in an illegal way - and you need to say this WORLDWIDE (both to the Germans and the USA and EUROPE) - and one illegal action entails a chain of the following violations of the law.

    Here we have the right to act on the basis of this FACT.
    All subsequent steps of the regime that seized power can not legally be recognized as having no legal force.

    - What are you ?! This news will be for the USA and Europe! The USA and Europe completely legally and peacefully changed power in Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia, now peaceful demonstrators have been trying for several years to peacefully change power in Syria, and here it is sooooo!
  20. KOSMOS
    KOSMOS 27 February 2014 11: 18
    0
    Quote: tungus
    The situation is bad for us. Americans played beautifully. We cannot send troops to Ukraine, because this is what the endos would very much like. Drawing Russia into conflict is just a gift for them. And if, on this wave, Europeans, on the other hand, harness themselves, it can be said that the states have achieved their goal.
    But we will not be able to intervene if the Ukrainian Natsiks begin to clean up the Russian-speaking population.
    Zugzwang.
    The best thing you can do today is pull time. Ukraine as a single state is not long left. There is no money, there is a default on the nose, they will not wait for financial assistance from Europe, because there is no money in Europe either.
    Now the division of power has begun, and this will only increase the split and fragmentation of the putschists. The Nazis themselves will not leave Maidan, and therefore chaos will only increase. In a month or two, the people in Ukraine will simply have nothing to eat. Then, in the southeast, not 200-300 people will take to the streets, but hundreds of thousands. And this moment must wait. Russia will help these people who have taken to the streets. Financially, politically, maybe we will render military assistance. But we will not enter the troops. In order for a legitimate secession of the southeast to occur, the decision should be made by the residents of these territories themselves. And for this decision to mature and take shape, time is needed. Therefore, you need to wait and pull the time. To conduct training there so that the banderlogs are not forgotten, to seek out and finance the future leaders of Little Russia, to slow down Europe and the USA in all possible ways. Take time and wait.

    There are many nuances, but generally agree!
  21. Gagarin
    Gagarin 27 February 2014 11: 20
    +4
    I remember "Borodino" - everything was confused, people, horses ...
    One horse has already presented himself in the ring and in the crown!
  22. alex80
    alex80 27 February 2014 11: 22
    +3
    Finally, at least some real and most importantly prepared pro-Russian force was found,
    maybe Russian ... wink
  23. terrible
    terrible 27 February 2014 11: 22
    +5
    Drive to help! Death to the banderlogs!
  24. Suhov
    Suhov 27 February 2014 11: 23
    +14
    We can not send troops to Ukraine

    Our President knows better.
    He knows more.
    It is up to him.
  25. Earnest
    Earnest 27 February 2014 11: 25
    +8
    Russia is highly dependent on the EU as a gas supplier

    A funny assessment - I remember when they blocked the pipe in response to gas extraction in Ukraine, Russia did not feel cold, but in Europe ... it was cooling))
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 27 February 2014 11: 30
      +1
      +.
      We will always have the necessary leverage for Europe, but in the winter.
  26. Muadipus
    Muadipus 27 February 2014 11: 27
    +12
    Russia can not send troops to Ukraine, everyone understands this. But, if Crimea or eastern Ukraine announces its secession from Ukraine, proclaims itself an independent state. In this situation, Russia will be able to implement the Ossetian-Abkhaz scenario. First peacekeepers will introduce, with political and economic support, and then after the referendum and accession to Russia. This scenario seems to me the most realistic in the interests of Russia.
  27. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 27 February 2014 11: 31
    +3
    For the creation of New Russia, so far only the local Russian-speaking population. This is not included in Putin’s plans for the reason that he doesn’t want to salt Europe and the United States, and he is interested in the interests of the Russian-speaking population of eastern Ukraine and Crimea again from the position no matter what happens! In general, there are no guarantees of joining Russia yet! Everywhere, above all, only financial interest! Yes, and hardly less gold in the possessions of the Russian president in relation to the Ukrainian! This is not Stalin who did not even have property! And again, there is something to ponder !!!
  28. ed65b
    ed65b 27 February 2014 11: 39
    +2
    Last thing
    The buildings of the Parliament and Government of Crimea, the capture of which became known on the morning of February 27, are controlled by "representatives of the self-defense of the Russian-speaking population of Crimea." This was reported by Interfax with reference to local sources. RIA Novosti disseminated similar information, referring to its correspondent.

    Sources also said that self-defense units from representatives of the Russian-speaking population are being formed throughout the peninsula, which are sent to Simferopol.
  29. gispanec
    gispanec 27 February 2014 11: 47
    +4
    It’s interesting ... and why our forum Jews do not participate in discussions on Ukraine .... so a couple of three comments and that’s all ... but where is their civil position? ... it’s interesting to listen to the professor and other gurus of the forum battle language
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 27 February 2014 11: 57
      +5
      In Ukraine, the situation with Jews and Russians is ambiguous, as both will soon be driven to camps. And filter.
      In power anarcho-Nazis from the sectors, Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Julia - screens and portraits of the new government is all.
      The Tatars do not yet understand that after the Russians and Jews they will tackle them. The Nazis and Bendera hate everyone but themselves.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 27 February 2014 12: 46
        +8
        Quote: mojohed2012
        In Ukraine, the situation with Jews and Russians is ambiguous, as both will soon be driven to camps. And filter.


        These may well suit the Ukrainian Majdanek. The failed philologist Dmitry Yarosh is a true secret ruler of present-day Ukraine, its Fuhrer. He has already declared his goal to go to Russia no less.

        1. Colonel
          Colonel 27 February 2014 16: 18
          +4
          Quote: Ascetic
          declared the goal ... a trip to Russia

          As the classics teach, history is repeated the first time in the form of tragedy, the second time in the form of farce. There was a tragedy with the Fuhrer number one, the Fuhrer number two drew ...
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 27 February 2014 20: 47
          +1
          Quote: Ascetic
          These may well suit the Ukrainian Majdanek. The failed philologist Dmitry Yarosh is a true secret ruler of present-day Ukraine, its Fuhrer. He has already declared his goal to go to Russia no less.

          Majdanek will ride all over Ukraine. If the East and South bend, then trouble will enter every home.
    2. Colonel
      Colonel 27 February 2014 16: 14
      +2
      Quote: gispanec
      why our forum Jews do not participate in discussions on Ukraine

      Aunt Monya from Privoz said Schaub not tryndely lol
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 28 February 2014 16: 09
        +1
        still, aunt Monya shoto know .....................
    3. tungus
      tungus 27 February 2014 16: 23
      +2
      By the way, with the most entertaining video of the Jewish argument about the situation in Ukraine. I applauded while standing.
      http://www.iton-tv.com/art/3867/Izrailskij-razvedchik-o-raskole-Ukrainy-i-vozmoz
      hnoj-vojne /
    4. stroporez
      stroporez 28 February 2014 16: 06
      +1
      yeah, I'm also interested ------------ no reaction to the fascist coup ........ all ..... the ashes of Auschwitz do not knock in their hearts laughing it’s .... not Arabs to drive ... nothing, I think Bandera will not change their traditions, they will have a new Holocaust ......
  30. gland
    gland 27 February 2014 11: 58
    +4
    Silently there are more such groups of 30-40 people, and where is Berkut and where is Alpha who understands ..))
    laughing
  31. valokordin
    valokordin 27 February 2014 12: 02
    +6
    We all need to understand one thing, international obligations are trampled by the Americans, Euro-fascists, and we must be free to protect our population, and first of all in the Crimea. The power that came to Kiev clearly and fiercely anti-Russian and anti-Russian, and Moscow should not chew snot, but declare this. And if our democrats warmed Yanukovych, then they themselves betrayed the Ukrainian brothers. Here it is the price of Russian democracy.
    1. Suhow
      Suhow 27 February 2014 20: 48
      +2
      Yanyk is supposed that the thief is still a coward and a traitor after he threw 1400 cops in Kiev, who will support him?
  32. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 27 February 2014 12: 09
    +9
    "A million Tatars were destroyed by Russia."
    According to the 1917 census, Crimean Tatars made up 200 thousand people (26,8% of the population of the peninsula). According to the 1939 census of the Crimean Tatars, there were 218179 people in Crimea, that is, 19,4% of the total population of the peninsula. Where did this million supposedly destroyed by Russia go? hi
  33. cpk72
    cpk72 27 February 2014 12: 11
    +2
    LIGHTNING: Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 90/2014 of February 27, 2014
    http://anna-news.info/node/13745
  34. cpk72
    cpk72 27 February 2014 12: 13
    +3
    Kaz of the President of Ukraine No. 90/2014 of February 27, 2014

    (Translated from Ukrainian)

    22-23 February in Ukraine there was a military coup in which groups of armed Nazi militants with military-political support of foreign powers seized the central government in the capital city of Kiev, and a number of regional administrations in the western part of the country.

    Some of the political forces of Ukraine acted as traitors to the people and collaborators, collaborating with fascists who seized state power in the capital, with the goal of forming a puppet government entirely dependent on external sponsors of this coup, represented by the United States of America and NATO countries, primarily Germany and Poland. Fascist gangs ousted employees of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine from Kiev, captured the Central Rada, and instituted reprisals against deputies who did not support the coup, including beatings, abductions, burning houses and threats of reprisals against deputies and their families. In this regard, the continuation of the activities of the constitutional authorities in Kiev became impossible for military reasons.

    To cover the goals of the coup d'état, the participants used the “Agreement on the settlement of the crisis in Ukraine” of February 21 of 2014, in which, together with me they stated: “They intend to form a coalition and form a Government of national unity within 10 days”, before the first Martha. This Agreement was initialed by the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of France, Germany and Poland, who later not only failed to fulfill their obligations as guarantors of the Agreement, but also took a direct part in promoting a coup in Ukraine.

    The President of Ukraine remains the only party to this Agreement, which strictly and fully complied with its obligations. In connection with the expiration of the period announced by the Agreement of February 21 for the formation of the Government of National Unity in Ukraine, and the attempts of part of the putschists to form their own illegal puppet government in Kiev, I announce the following measures of the legal authority of Ukraine to restore the constitutional order:
  35. cpk72
    cpk72 27 February 2014 12: 14
    +2
    1. Repeal Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 52/2014 of January 28, 2014 “On the resignation of the Prime Minister of Ukraine and the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine”. Members of the Cabinet of Ministers, their deputies, and heads of departments and services to arrive at the point indicated by me in the Circular Letter to continue the work of the legitimate Government of Ukraine in the manner provided for by Decree No. 950 “On Confirming Regulation to the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine.” The Cabinet of Misters should take exhaustive measures for restoration of public administration, and fulfillment of the Government’s social obligations in regions not occupied by the putschists, paying particular attention to the issues of paying pensions, allowances, and measures of social support for the population in the regions, as well as resolving material issues and paying salaries to law enforcement agencies loyal to the legitimate authority, and determining measures of material support National squads and sources of their financing. In case of insufficient funds, to betray for the purposes the deployment of the services of the People’s squads in the regions of any state property, and the right to use it locally.

    2. Determine the location of the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander of Ukraine - the Headquarters of the Navy of Ukraine, Sevastopol. The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Navy, Admiral Yuriy Ilyin, to take comprehensive measures to establish communications with all parts, units and ships of the Armed Forces of the Ukrainian Navy in order to comply with the unconditional sovereignty, territorial integrity and protection of the legitimate government bodies of Ukraine. Temporarily assign him the duties of chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. To all commanders of units, subunits and ships no more than 24 hours after the promulgation of the Decree, to get in touch with the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander in the city of Sevastopol, about which I have issued Order No. 1 of the Supreme Commander. After the expiration of the specified period, consider all commanders who have not complied with the requirements of the Order as traitors, without an additional Order, to deprive them of their military rank, with stripping off the epaulettes before the formation. Junior officers take measures to remove them, including the use of weapons to defeat those who have resisted, in order to immediately comply with the Orders of the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander, and report on the execution of the order to the Chief of the General Staff in Sevastopol.
    1. tundra
      tundra 28 February 2014 15: 36
      +1
      And what the hell he decided to hide in Sevostopol. What in Donetsk or Dnepropetrovsk is terrible.
  36. cpk72
    cpk72 27 February 2014 12: 14
    +1
    3. Heads of the militia and the SBU of Ukraine go over to military service in the order specified by order No. XXUMX of the Supreme Commander, All commanders of the police units within 2 hours after promulgation of the Decree to get in touch with the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander in the city of Sevastopol. After the expiration of this period, consider all commanders of the police and SBU units who have not fulfilled the requirements of Order No. XXUMX as traitors, without an additional Order to remove them from office, with the aim of the junior officers to take measures to remove them, including the use of weapons to defeat resistance, with the aim of immediately fulfilling the Orders of the Supreme Commander’s Stake, and to report on the implementation of the Order to me personally.

    4. To foreign powers wishing to maintain diplomatic relations with Ukraine, to send their naval attachés for communication with the legal leadership of the country to the main headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy, Sevastopol, before creating the conditions for accreditation of foreign embassies in it.

    5. Determine the location of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and the National Bank of Ukraine at the location of the Supreme Commander General Headquarters. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Head of the Central Bank to warn foreign powers about the inadmissibility of the theft of Ukraine’s financial reserves, which only the legal authorities of the country have the right to dispose of, and to restore correspondent relations with international banks and financial organizations. In the case of theft. appropriating or freezing these funds, or using them at the direction of the illegal provisional authorities of Kiev, to compensate for the losses due to the nationalization of funds and property owned by the Governments, organizations and citizens of the countries concerned, up to a judicial decision of this issue in the interests of Ukraine. In this regard, the Government should freeze all assets of foreign companies and any companies with foreign participation and transfer them to full state administration, until the confirmation of the readiness of foreign powers to faithfully fulfill their financial obligations to the legal Government of Ukraine.
  37. cpk72
    cpk72 27 February 2014 12: 14
    +1
    6. Offer everyone loyal to the Constitution of Ukraine to deputies of the Verkhovna Rada to arrive in the city of Sevastopol for the 3 March 2014 mobile session, with an agenda on depriving them of immunity and deputy powers of the armed coup in the city of Kiev, before the elections to the Verkhovna Rada and the resumption of its work under the occupation of the historical capital country.

    7. To the elected authorities in the regions of Ukraine, by March 3, to propose to me the candidatures of the leaders of the respective regions, from among the deputies, or citizens loyal to the legal Government of the country. Candidates with mandates from representative authorities should arrive in the city of Sevastopol by March 3, for approval by me as Governors. Prior to this period, all elected local authorities should form People’s Squads, from among those loyal to the legitimate Government of the country, appointing them as heads of officers with military experience, or employees of the Berkut and Internal Troops units who have distinguished themselves by their personal courage in defending the legitimate authorities in the city of Kiev, as well as independently take all necessary measures to restore constitutional order throughout Ukraine.

    President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych
    27 February 2014 of the year
  38. Ossetian.
    Ossetian. 27 February 2014 12: 32
    +14
    Glory to Russia!!!
  39. Neophyte
    Neophyte 27 February 2014 12: 42
    +8
    Dual power in the country. Legally, the legal president is Yanukovych.
    Whether he will receive the support of the army and the people is a big question.
    The time of hetmanism is coming!
  40. gland
    gland 27 February 2014 12: 44
    +2
    It seems to have begun .....
  41. Simple
    Simple 27 February 2014 13: 09
    0
    Quote: from the pack
    To understand how true the expert estimates are and how Germany and Europe see the Ukrainian situation in general, we look through German newspapers.


    The media write for their people so that the average citizen understands how to do it.
    So do not blame me.

    R.S. Once I took the local newspaper in my hands on this topic, and no longer take it: everything is known in comparison.
  42. saag
    saag 27 February 2014 13: 14
    +1
    So if Yanukovych in Barvikha he retreated by sea, as I expected, a Russian military messenger, he had nothing to catch in Ukraine
  43. Ustian
    Ustian 27 February 2014 13: 32
    0
    The troops of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia are under Simferopol. Crimeans noticed armored vehicles near the village of Ukromnoe. The BTR’s affiliation to the Black Sea Fleet is confirmed by the press secretary of the Crimean Prime Minister, Violetta Lisina.

    It is reported by Komsomolskaya Pravda.

    "At the moment, there are about 7 armored personnel carriers of the Russian Black Sea Fleet at a fork near the village of Ukromnoye," Violetta Lisina said on her Facebook page.

    The Black Sea Fleet does not give any comments.

    At the same time, the extremists who seized the buildings of the Supreme Council and the Council of Ministers in Simferopol refused to negotiate with the head of government Anatoly Mogilev.

    The armed radicals call themselves "representatives of the self-defense of the Russian-speaking citizens of Crimea," and refuse to communicate with the media.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 27 February 2014 14: 26
      +1
      Yanukovych asked for help from the Russian Federation! They’ve already covered him for a hike! The Germans and NATO have already shattered with bricks! And we are also conducting exercises! yes

      MOSCOW, 27 February. ITAR-TASS. Viktor Yanukovych said that he still considers himself the legitimate president of the country.
      “I, Viktor Fyodorovich Yanukovych, appeal to the people of Ukraine,” says Yanukovych’s statement received by ITAR-TASS. “I still consider myself the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state, elected on the basis of the free expression of the will of Ukrainian citizens. I cannot be indifferent to the tragic events in my I believe that the agreement on resolving the crisis in Ukraine signed by me and the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition in the presence of our respected Western partners has not been implemented on February 21, 2014. Extremism is rampant on the streets of many cities of our country. ".
      And he also stated that all orders were not legal!
      MOSCOW, 27 February. ITAR-TASS. President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych will receive security on the territory of the Russian Federation.
      "In connection with the fact that President Yanukovych appealed to the authorities of the Russian Federation to ensure his personal safety, I inform you that this request was granted on the territory of the Russian Federation," a source in the Russian government told ITAR-TASS.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 27 February 2014 14: 39
        +3
        The second part of Marlezonsky ballet! News of the last minutes!

        ITAR-TASS Yatsenyuk: all documents on the formation of a parliamentary coalition have been prepared, in an hour the Verkhovna Rada will be able to begin forming a government.
        BRUSSELS, February 27. ITAR-TASS
        . The need for Germany’s defense minister, Ursula von der Lyayen, pointed out the need to avoid a split in Ukraine with full respect for the rights of national minorities on February 10 at the meeting of NATO defense ministers. She also expressed concern about the growing tensions in Crimea.

        "The most important thing is to avoid a split in Ukraine while fully respecting the rights of national and religious minorities," said von der Leyen.

        Earlier, she said that Russia "should be involved" in the process of resolving the situation in Ukraine.
        “There will be no solution without Russia. A solution should be sought jointly - both with the participation of Russia and with the participation of NATO and Europe,” she said, recalling, in particular, the existence of such a consultation platform as the Russia-NATO Council.

        And tada drum roll!
        NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen urged Russia not to take actions that could lead to an escalation of tension in the Crimea.

        "I am concerned about the development of events in Crimea. I call on Russia not to take any action that could lead to an escalation of tensions or cause misunderstanding," the NATO Secretary General wrote in a statement on his Twitter microblog, which was published after the start of the second day of the NATO Defense Ministers meeting in Brussels. Everyone in Europe became so concerned right awaylaughing
  44. revnagan
    revnagan 27 February 2014 13: 35
    0
    The address specified by srk72 is blocked. So is this true or a duck? If a duck, it will become another cruel disappointment and silino will undermine the will to resist.
  45. RND
    RND 27 February 2014 13: 37
    +2
    “Klitschko vs. Yatsenyuk”
    The first -
    believes there is a power vacuum, and it can be dangerous
    and especially considering that the vacuum concentrated primarily in his head. Reasonably, no words.
    Klitschko is known to be a protege of the EU, in contrast to Yatsenyuk promoted by the White House, which is confirmed by the recent unintelligent “fact” addressed to the EU by Victoria Nuland, a lady from the State Department.

    And here everything is correct, and taking into account the photo shoots for gay publications with the participation of the “candidate”, the “unintelligent fact” got directly into the bullseye.
    The second is the new Jesus (forgive the Lord for comparison)
    Yatsenyuk explained to the Maidan that the new government will face the huge problem of saving the country. (In a sense, maliciously we note in brackets that Mr. Yatsenyuk has already inscribed himself in the history of the new Ukraine as a savior.)

    all that is needed is a crown of Russian-made “egoza”.
    (Barbed wire Fidget AKL ASKL, Installation, Cheap! Delivery! Moscow!)

    In general, guys wherever ...
    And, regarding the Tatars:
    They will provide “worthy resistance,” said their leader Refat Chubarov.

    “If Russia sends troops to the Crimea, we will protect ourselves.”

    I want to note that if Russia sends troops, the gentlemen of the Tatars will swim to their benefactors in Turkey. On rafts, wooden beds, inflatable ducklings ...
  46. revnagan
    revnagan 27 February 2014 13: 47
    0
    The address specified by srk72 is blocked. So is this true or a duck? If a duck, it will become another cruel disappointment and silino will undermine the will to resist.
  47. Simple
    Simple 27 February 2014 13: 48
    +1
    Oleg, not all newspapers looked hi

    BILD. 05.02.2014 - 00: 04 Uhr

    Berlin - world boxing champion Vitali Klitschko (42) receives recognition and support from the Dieter Graumann (63, photo), president of the Central Council of Jews in Germany in the fight against the Ukrainian government.
    Graumann said (BILD): “Vitali Klitschko, who shows his personal relationship with the Jewish community, fights in the battle of his life for freedom and against the dictatorship in Ukraine. He passionately stands for justice and a course towards a free Europe. He is a hero of our time. a model of courage ".
    But Graumann warns Klitschko at the same time from parts of the opposition: “Unfortunately, at the moment there are ultras, the fascist and anti-Semitic party“ Freedom ”, which is part of the opposition movement in Ukraine.
    Therefore, Vitali Klitschko must be very careful in this regard and always maintain the correct distance. "
    http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/vitali-klitschko/ukraine-krise-zentralrat-der-


    juden-dieter-graumann-unterstuetzt-klitschko-34538976.bild.html

    That's such a disposition.
    At the end of this forest, Vitali Klitschko will be given a personal fire extinguisher. For memory.
    And shake hands for faithful service.
    1. Simple
      Simple 27 February 2014 14: 36
      +7
      What am I doing:

      Lord Bandera!

      You can’t even bother with the May 25 vote for Vitali Klitschko and Yulia Tymoshenko: after the election, they will not take a step in your direction without agreement with the Central Council of Jews in Germany.
  48. Argast
    Argast 27 February 2014 14: 14
    -10%
    Quote: 120352
    Bon voyage to the Berkutovites! Successfully get there! I hope this time you will not be betrayed.


    They will not betray them, so they will betray.
  49. ZU-23
    ZU-23 27 February 2014 14: 29
    0
    Viktor Yanukovych, whom the Verkhovna Rada had previously announced removed from office of the President of Ukraine, asked the Russian authorities to ensure his personal safety. As a source in the power structure of the Russian Federation told RIA Novosti, the request of Yanukovych was granted.

    Viktor Yanukovych said that he still considers himself the legitimate president of Ukraine, this is stated in his appeal to the Ukrainian people.

    “I still consider myself the legitimate head of the Ukrainian state, elected on the basis of the free will of Ukrainian citizens,” the statement said in a statement to RIA Novosti.

    The whereabouts of Yanukovych is still unknown. Some media previously wrote, in particular, that he was allegedly in Russia
  50. repytw
    repytw 27 February 2014 14: 53
    +2
    "Now at the building of the Crimean parliament there are about a thousand protesters, reports the agency" Crimean News "and specifies that those gathered came to support the invaders of the Crimean buildings, demand the separation of Crimea from Ukraine and its entry into Russia."


    I ask who can make a topic dedicated to the events in Simferopol. That the news from Crimea would go straight to the forum, it would be contradictory and mostly Ukrainized.