A beautiful example of ideological struggle in Ukraine

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Looking through the sites of maydanutyh, constantly stumble on news. And, as a curious person, I read. Probably, it reminds of digging in manure in search of the sister of the pearl that was found some time ago by a rooster, but ... Curiosity and the desire to know different points of view pushes for excavation.

The news I read today gave me an idea: what should a simple Ukrainian think about Russia and others like her? I will not change anything, just copy and that's it.

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President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko (2005-2010 years) believes that the "Russian plan" for events in Ukraine is to liquidate the Ukrainian state, reports PressOrg (http://pressorg24.com) with reference to a statement released on the official page of Our Ukraine "on Facebook.

Speaking about current events, V. Yushchenko noted that the Verkhovna Rada should urgently resume work and hold an emergency meeting at which the Act of National Freedom proposed by the society and the 1 December initiative should be supported in order to start overcoming the political crisis. the integrity of the country.

"The Verkhovna Rada should issue a number of key political documents that should define the essence of the conflict between the two courses - European and Eurasian. Also, the 2004 Constitution of the year should be returned to the parliament and a government of national trust should be formed in accordance with it. Ending violence should be the first prerequisite any kind of dialogue. Until that time, unfortunately, the parties to the dialogue, both from the authorities and the opposition, did not offer a realistic plan for overcoming the crisis. The other two participants The events that take place are the European Union and Russia, while the degree of Russian intervention and the interest of the Russian side in involving Ukraine in its orbit - the so-called Russian factor - were underestimated by the authorities, the opposition and the European Union, ”the politician believes.

Now, in his opinion, the conflict, “which is called political and is being tried to be resolved by the next distribution of posts,” needs to be overestimated and “adequately called it - a struggle for the sovereignty and integrity of Ukraine”. As V. Yushchenko noted, "at all times the fighters for Ukraine (Mazepians, Bandera, Petliurists) tried to marginalize as criminals" and today "they label the terrorists of Ukraine and radical gangs on the patriots of Ukraine on Maidan."

"The development of the Russian scenario, which is either in the poverty of the whole country, or because of the escalation of the conflict in federalization, the creation of a puppet government, must be stopped immediately. We must create a permanent mission of the European Union, which will promote the return to European integration as a guarantee of preserving the integrity of Ukraine, returning to peace and stability and further reforms in all areas. The European steps for Ukraine should be the approval of a political association, a free trade area and the introduction visa-free regime; at the same time, the EU should impose financial sanctions and other restrictions on terror organizers against Ukrainians. 15 billion from the Russian authorities is a resource for destabilizing Ukraine. The Russian plan is clearly visible - it is the elimination of the Ukrainian state ", said V. Yushchenko .

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So you can turn everything upside down. At the same time to keep faith in themselves and the wolves, and the sheep, which will soon devour those same wolves. Many of the colleagues in the Military Review do not fundamentally read the opinions of the opposite side, and this is often very useful. The enemy of the Ukrainian state is very serious, prepared and owning technologies of fooling, so-called. the masses ...

"PressNG 24", "News of the Day", February 21 2014
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  1. +7
    22 February 2014 07: 35
    15 billion is already a bit, Siluanov said that you don’t have to buy something that does not have a price. Well, right now they will adopt a new constitution, the West will flood up with money and how they will heal ...
    1. +7
      22 February 2014 07: 55
      Quote: Igor39
      .Well, right now they will adopt a new constitution, the West will flood up with money and how they will heal ...

      The West just like that, never, did not give anything to anyone. Yes, and they have been waiting for the promised three years.
      1. Baboon
        +9
        22 February 2014 08: 04
        It was recently seen, in the fall, when Yanukovych went to them all and asked for loans, he thought everyone was so kind there, they were smiling in the face. But Russia agrees to grant a loan, but it turns out that this is to the detriment of Ukraine efforts, in general, it turns out again Russia is to blame for everything.
        1. +1
          22 February 2014 20: 09
          Once in the garrison he witnessed a quarrel between two best friends. They were, by the way, Ukrainians, but this is absolutely not important. The wives of our ensigns quarreled in the trash due to the fact that one accused the other of always giving her a loan of money when she asked. In her opinion, a friend thus wanted to harm her.
          Sound familiar?
      2. +7
        22 February 2014 08: 08
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The West just like that, never, did not give anything to anyone.

        bully Hi Sash ... But for some reason I remembered the non-repayable transfer of air bombs in Yugoslavia ... They didn’t just give, but also delivered at their own expense by air ... Another thing is that the local population did not learn how to catch them, they died the process lol
        1. +3
          22 February 2014 08: 24
          Quote: Igor39
          ... the west will flood up with money and how they will heal ...

          And maybe it will fail. Perhaps this is the whole calculation. Poland is then overwhelmed, and Georgia))) And here is such a wonderful offer! Place missile defense, NATO bases in 700 km from Moscow. Such things should be well paid.
          1. uhjpysq1
            +2
            22 February 2014 09: 27
            ) for sure) and how much work ukrov appear) women legs to push men rolls) and then do not go anywhere.)
          2. philip
            0
            22 February 2014 10: 08
            A bubble does not burst? Not urinary - currency.
        2. +1
          22 February 2014 08: 31
          Quote: domokl
          But for some reason I remembered the non-repayable transfer of air bombs in Yugoslavia.

          and so it’s not free, there is nothing left of Yugoslavia. So the bombs, also at the expense of the host country.
          Hi san hi
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        4. +3
          22 February 2014 09: 14
          At the moment, the army of invasion of Ukraine is excluded from any direction. There something intelligible should be welded in your own boiler. Enough blood has already been shed in Russia, including in battles with Ukrainian mercenaries in the Caucasus.
          1. 0
            22 February 2014 11: 25
            In my opinion, the author himself did not understand what he wanted to say, and even more so. It seems like he underestimates his maydanutyh, but the authorities have raised and nurtured them for more than twenty years. And they are trying to convince us that --- "As V. Yushchenko noted," at all times the fighters for Ukraine (Mazepa, Bandera, Petliura) tried to marginalize as criminals "and today" the patriots of Ukraine on the Maidan are labeled as terrorists and radical gangs. " , and we buy into this and really amicably yelling radicals, bandits - so these are pupils of the authorities. And strangely enough, they still take their toll and quite successfully. And strangely from our side - 20 years of ass, and now we are waiting for friendship. I think economic interests if they really exist, they will force us to radically reconsider the policy, or maybe it has been revised, they just do not want to injure our scrupulous soul.
        5. 0
          22 February 2014 09: 47
          Attention! Maximum repost on the Internet!

          Dnepropetrovsk is no longer a Russian city. 300 people in front of 2000 onlookers under exclamations Glory to Ukraine piled a monument to Lenin in the city center. What does Lenin have to do with Russians? I explain, in Ukraine, in the eyes of the nationalists, the Soviet and Russian are one and the same. This is separate things in Russia. And here it is one. After 5, the monuments to the Soviet soldiers of the Great Patriotic War, as in the Baltic States, will begin to be ravaged. Do not believe? Tell 10 years ago in the Dnieper, that under the Bandera slogans they will throw off Lenin in the city center, they will not believe either. History textbook of Ukraine won, comrades. Consumerism won :(

          What I demand from Russia Russia must finally admit that it lost to the "Russian World" in Ukraine, where, as a result, Russian-speaking Russophobes appeared in the Center and partially in the South-East of Ukraine. Russians, do not comfort yourself that this is only a protest against Yanukovych, it is also a national revolution. All who speak Russian every day and at the same time sprinkle saliva on everything Soviet and Russian are people who believe that Moscow Russified their ancestors !!! But they are scoundrels, they stubbornly continue to communicate in Russian in everyday life and do not switch to Ukrainian. Therefore, what I specifically propose for Russians and official Russia:

          1.Russian-speaking cities that surrendered to Bandera without a fight and allowed vandalism to be declared traitors to the Great Russian people, you need to poke their noses into their not desire to be a traitor to the end - to communicate 24 hours in Ukrainian. Therefore, I appeal to the patriotic movements of Russia "The Essence of Time", "Izborsk Club" to lobby for discrimination against Dnepropetrovsk in the economic and humanitarian spheres:

          - in negotiations with entrepreneurs to require an interpreter. Even if they communicate well in Russian, they require communication through an interpreter. They will say that this is nonsense and a circus! But we Russians should lower them to the ground. You can not be a Ukrainian patriot, Russophobe and at the same time communicate 24 hours in Russian, thus using an economic advantage. I understand that I offer absurdity and even split in the Russian world. But trust me from Ukraine, they wanted to say that the number of people who call themselves Russians is getting smaller, but at the same time the language range is not decreasing. Believe me, I once had orangism (thank God I recovered), they will have a headache if they communicate in Ukrainian. more xnumx hours. Let them be consistent. They calmly say in Russian in disputes that Russia is a prison of nations. And the fact that there are no Russians. There is a pier a mixture of Mongolians, Tatars, Finno-Finns, etc. And while they are s.o.l.o.ch.i. communicate in Russian, buy Russian films, translations with the Russian language, Russified software products.

          2. Official Russia should refuse from Yuzhmash products. Blood from the nose, but Dnepropetrovsk should be the first officially millionth Russian-speaking Russophobic city. Don't consider me a provocateur. God knows, I wanted to save the Russian ethnos in Ukraine. Here is my article a year ago: "Manifesto to Russians in Ukraine (supplemented)".

          They listen to Russian songs, muses. culture and at the same time crap on Russia. I lived 27 for years in the South-East of Ukraine, and it hurts me from such a falsehood. They should be ashamed and humiliating. Tomorrow they, and even today, will betray 9 in May to 1945. Demand from them the Ukrainian language !!! Let them kill themselves to the end. I repeat, to act only to those Russian Ukrainians, where the cities of Bandera were given without a fight. Russian-speaking in Ukraine is 45%, but there are about 5% remaining on the standing Russians. Silence and non-resistance Bandera - this is also a betrayal.
      3. +1
        22 February 2014 08: 23
        Hello Alexander! I’m exaggerating, I understand that if the government is changed, the situation in the economy will not improve, and the West will require such reforms and cuts in social payments that it will not be far to the next Independence Square.
        1. +3
          22 February 2014 08: 36
          Quote: Igor39
          and the West will demand such reforms and cuts in social payments that it will not be far to the next Independence Square.

          Hi Igor! Actually, so far no one has given money and not the fact that it will. In the west of the country, marauders and bandits are in power, in Kiev anarchy. The right sector has not received power, which is very dissatisfied, and as soon as they cut it down, it’s not at all like it. It doesn’t give a damn about the USA and Klitschka, and even more so about the economy. Therefore, it’s too early to talk about financial assistance. It’s not clear to anyone who will take power tomorrow.
      4. +5
        22 February 2014 08: 50
        West will give money. Not immediately, but not much. But it will give that torment to give.
        1. +1
          22 February 2014 09: 25
          Quote: Renat
          West will give money. Not immediately, but not much. But it will give that torment to give.

          no one will give anything, they (the EU) will cover the interest on loans from the IMF with this money (i.e., the money will not leave Europe, they will simply transfer Europe from one account to another account - the IMF) ...
          1. +1
            22 February 2014 09: 29
            And I'm talking about the same thing. Saying that you are tormented to give. We have already gone through this in the 90s.
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      5. uhjpysq1
        +1
        22 February 2014 09: 22
        ) no cho, asses pay off with Europe)
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    2. +3
      22 February 2014 08: 11
      For a long time they tried to explain to them that they are naive thinking: "Well, right now they will adopt a "new" constitution, the West will fill up with money and how will they heal ..."People are almost their own, not strangers, I feel sorry for them for cruel experiments. But they persistently climb into the" dark shed with a rake. "
      Kiev is "democratically" captured. Someone so stupidly hopes that the new ones will rule for two months, and then they will embarrassedly say: "Well, we can't do it, I'm sorry, let others try." No, forget about democracy now! Without a lot of blood, these will not go away, their "new golden eagle" will be with machine guns all the time.
      1. +2
        22 February 2014 08: 22
        Quote: Kite
        People are almost their own, not strangers

        Are you talking about what kind of people? That's the disgusting situation that these same ones are almost their own on both sides.
        But the blood will flow .. More precisely, it is already pouring. Those numbers that have been misleading no more than officialdom ... Where are almost 6 dozen captured Berkut soldiers? Where have the disappeared maydaunas? There are more and more questions.
    3. 0
      22 February 2014 13: 02
      The West invested in Ukrainian events is not sickly, now it will beat off the grandmother, and not spend.
    4. 0
      22 February 2014 18: 48
      Quote: Igor39
      15 billion is already a bit, Siluanov said that you don’t have to buy something that does not have a price. Well, right now they will adopt a new constitution, the West will flood up with money and how they will heal ...

      Do not make me laugh. The people there will not receive anything. It is better for Little Russia to enter back into Russia.
  2. +3
    22 February 2014 07: 35
    saw no words
  3. +2
    22 February 2014 07: 35
    Events in Ukraine are sadder, Yanukovych surrenders everything, absolutely everything. Maybe he himself will avoid persecution by the opposition, but the people from his team will suffer seriously because of his weakness as the head of state. I expect that the leaders of the regions in eastern Ukraine will decide.
    1. +2
      22 February 2014 08: 17
      Yanyk is simply greasy, and not the leader of the state, his first bitch is necessary, without soap
      1. philip
        0
        22 February 2014 10: 18
        uh This is not right, you can’t do without soap, and suddenly it will break. Two times the Hague court forbids, not democratically.
  4. SSR
    +3
    22 February 2014 07: 35
    I am looking for the upbringing of the fascist overseer, it is a pity that they were not mistaken with the dosage.
    1. Salamander
      +2
      22 February 2014 11: 48
      Yes, Yusch is one more ... how to put it more correctly ... can you tell me? laughing

  5. dmitrij.blyuz
    +3
    22 February 2014 07: 36
    (This is how you can turn everything upside down. At the same time, you can keep faith in yourself both among wolves and sheep, which the wolves will soon devour. Many of the colleagues on the Military Review do not fundamentally read the opinions of the opposite side, and this is often very useful. The enemy of the Ukrainian state is very serious, trained and knowledgeable about the technology of fooling the so-called popular masses ...) That is what maidanuta illiteracy succumbed to. There should be wolfhounds on wolves. Alas. Now we do not see this.
  6. +10
    22 February 2014 07: 49
    Specially talked with many zapadentsev about the situation in Ukraine, and they believe in their truth and think that they were right to discuss, all the dark moments, for example, they interpret Bandera in their own way, this applies not only to Bandera, but to everything that concerns the west, they are oriented there initially upbringing from childhood, if you don’t stop them now they will be in Russia, the guys themselves won’t cope with us and it makes no sense to prove to them since to any words that Russia and Ukraine are the same they are deaf
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      22 February 2014 09: 02
      Quote: ars_pro
      it makes no sense to prove to them

      Uniate + Austrian upbringing = a different mentality ... as in the saying - to them ... in the eyes of God dew.
    2. +2
      22 February 2014 09: 04
      Quote: ars_pro
      the guys themselves can’t cope with us, and it makes no sense to prove to them since to any words that Russia and Ukraine are the same they are deaf

      I agree completely. Only the snag will be. Suppose Ukraine is still the same, What do we get? The eastern point of view wins, the Western go underground and start a guerrilla war .. Again the bunkers, the murders of the authorities and sympathizers, looting. Ukraine is not the USSR, it will not cope will be able.
      Another option: the pro-Western part wins. The East is left without work, enterprises are closing. Russia will reorient its industry to its own factories. And further riots are already there. And I admit exactly the same as in the West in the first version.
      To tear Ukraine apart is not from politics and politicians, they are just pawns, to tear apart from the people. And the ideal way out is in the federation, but in real life in destroying today's Ukraine and creating two, or even three states. What states and Europe actually wanted.
      Everyone understands this, which is why now many perceive the Ukrainian anthem often played on the Maidan as a funeral march ...
      1. -1
        22 February 2014 10: 04
        And I have a third option, after Ukraine there will be Belarus, Old Man as a dictator will be hanged and the country will be bombed. Russia will wipe its snot and surrender everyone with giblets, because I do not see a fundamental difference between the authorities in Ukraine and in Russia, and here and there are corrupt ones who will sell their mother at the expense of Western banks and their mother. As I wrote earlier, Ukraine is Stalingrad in the current war. Stalingrad surrendered to the Germans (Klitschko Yartsenyuk and the Nazi Tyagnibok) ... The next goal of the Caucasus in the literal and figurative sense (enough to feed the Caucasus - the slogan of the gifted on the ground)
        1. poccinin
          +2
          22 February 2014 10: 26
          Well dad is not jane, he will crush the riot at the root. He will not breed snot.
    3. +3
      22 February 2014 09: 20
      you don't have to cope on your own. You have good leaders, one of them is Oles Buzina. He cannot be accused of "wanting to lie under the Kremlin" and at the same time he clearly understands what the Russian World and Historical Kievan Rus are.
      We, ordinary people, will also find how to support our Historical Homeland.
      Do not give up. Eastern regions feed everyone else.
      Your ancestors once threw off the Poles themselves, while the Galicians dutifully endured mockery of their culture and language.
      Protect your cities from bander. All attempts to disperse your protests, shoot on cameras and lay out! Well, one, well, two they can otmazatsya / shut up, but sooner or later the dam will break.
    4. calocha
      0
      22 February 2014 09: 22
      This is the result of brainwashing! And Belarus will be quietly cleaned up ... Poland has a "five-year plan" for the construction of churches in the west of Belarus, in its center and in the east. That is how they quietly rip out of ... Orthodoxy ... Pans (Austrians-Uniates) in the west of Ukraine killed many of the disobedient, and the rest were converted to their faith
  7. +14
    22 February 2014 07: 49
    In contrast to Yushch's statements about "heroes", one could poke another blogger's notes in his nose!
    Kiev Alina Kharchenko told on Facebook about her hard road from Kiev.
    "Today we had to overcome a difficult path from Kiev. We were moving in three cars. Problems with movement began in Borispol. Oh ** a pack of stupid gibbons, who, from their impunity, decided to block the road and decide who should pass through and who would not. The expensive cars were simply smashed into the trash. The asphalt was full of glass and debris.
    One of the hundreds of Maidan began looting An hour later, while stopping for a smoke break, a minibus flew up to our cars, tightly packed with masked imbecile cockerels, who found out who we were, where we were from and where we were going. A brainless young rural gopota decided that 3 families would report to them.
    Further even better. At the Pereyaslav fork, we were met by a thousand armed Ndeis. These n *** races brandished their clubs, pounded cars, demanded to lower the windows, they carried beer for a kilometer from them ... but the most important thing was that they ate so ** that they forced them to open the trunk and show the salon. And there were children in one car !!! This was repeated in Zolotonosha. On the way, we met many minibuses broken into the trash, transporting people, beaten cars and brutalized black people.
    And now a question for those who participate in parades of the humiliated and insulted at the local levels personally: when will you start working and not envy those who are smarter, smarter, smarter and more successful? You, creatures, did not create anything in your worthless life, you only got drunk, walked and stupid in your caches, instead of creating, and from the fact that you smash expensive cars, you will not become richer, but remain the same kami and cattle ", - she wrote.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139334.html
    1. +3
      22 February 2014 08: 05
      That’s the difference between a blogger and a news agency. The article was taken from the news ... It seems to me that the stage of information protection is beginning just for the actions that you are writing about. The answer will be as simple as the Pioneer Pravda once-titanics Kremlin’s order. And the worst thing is that a huge audience will believe that.
      If you look today at the live broadcast from the Maidan, you can see how the people are clearly divided ... Those who are there are moderate in the afternoon. Most of them are against Yanukovych. Not more than that. But the militants ... These will not calm down. What’s yesterday’s statement by Yarosh- Dissolve the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the right wing will ensure order ...
    2. +4
      22 February 2014 08: 21
      I completely agree! The deceased grandfather, the kingdom to him, told WHAT the Benders did when they climbed out of caches ... And these new ones will probably be worse than those
      1. +3
        22 February 2014 08: 26
        Quote: Skiff
        . And these new ones will probably be worse than those

        So they don’t hide it. Remember the episode shown on the Maidan TV that captured the badly wounded soldier Berkut. His eye was shot, his head was badly wounded, and the main cry is Berkut. No ambulance, he is a prisoner. And this was done.
        The massacre will be really serious ...
    3. 0
      22 February 2014 09: 23
      Thanks for the post. I will translate it into English, useful.
      1. 0
        22 February 2014 09: 41
        Yes, not at all. Just in order to somehow look at the situation objectively, you need to own information from all possible sources ... And always from different angles. hi
  8. +3
    22 February 2014 07: 52
    In general, the voice of Russia (Bestuzhev) is weak today at the court of the Empress (Ukraine) - I hope not for long ... but in general the restriction of entry for Ukrainians and Moldovans to Russia is unlikely to cause them positive associations to a coherent foreign policy towards Ukraine and Moldova in Russia there is no...
    1. +2
      22 February 2014 08: 15
      Quote: vo.dum
      restrictions on entry for Ukrainians and Moldovans to Russia are unlikely to cause them positive associations

      I agree, it won’t cause. Moreover, many of those Ukrainians who are working in Russia do not return there. Many families will break up.
      Only one thing. Are we depriving the Ukrainians of the opportunity to include a reverse? Joining the EU on any conditions will give enormous advantages to the West in establishing its own rules. In the EU countries, many people are already nagging, but the engine has already left irrevocably. This could happen with Ukraine.
  9. +4
    22 February 2014 08: 04
    We need to bomb Pshekov! 70 percent of their work and support .. (suffered me)))
  10. foka-alf
    -1
    22 February 2014 08: 05
    We lost, thanks brothers who were for us, who went to our website and told the truth, God bless you, we will pray for you.
    1. +6
      22 February 2014 08: 24
      Where did you get that you lost? In war, the one who wins the last battle wins, even if we are surrounded, this is not the end
      1. +2
        22 February 2014 09: 25
        But this is absolutely true!
        But first, we will cause disgust for these subhumans from the same Americans, I mean ordinary normal people (you will not believe it, but there are plenty of them)
    2. +2
      22 February 2014 08: 54
      Quote: foka-alf
      We lost, thanks brothers who were for us, who went to our website and told the truth,
      Dying before death is stupid and even criminal. Yes, Kiev succumbed to the bandits. And what did we expect from the gangster power? Yes, the western regions were ruled by Bandera. But was it different before?
      There is still the east of Ukraine, there is still Crimea. And in the West, not everyone is against Russia. Many understand that without our loans, without orders for Ukrainian products, without our benefits, Ukraine will bend very quickly.
      So Ukrainians will still fight. They will fight for themselves, for the country, for their children ...
    3. +1
      22 February 2014 10: 16
      A flock of sheep headed by a lion (Western Ukrainians, led by the United States) will always win against a herd of lions headed by a ram (Eastern Ukrainians, headed by * write yourself *) ...
  11. +1
    22 February 2014 08: 06
    The fact that the enemies are not fools can be seen in the result at this time. And who turned out to be fools is also visible.
    1. 0
      22 February 2014 09: 27
      There is no result yet. There is betrayal of Janek. There is also a rallying of the East against the Bandera.
      Let's see what happens next when the masks are reset. And most importantly, we will actively participate in resistance
  12. +4
    22 February 2014 08: 06
    Well, who was there in the media hanging noodles about the most influential president in the world, about Russia's success in the foreign political arena. What a piggy delight there was about Yanukovych's turn in favor of integration with the Russian Federation. But what happened in Ukraine is a failure of the Russian foreign policy, and a failure incompatible with the elimination of chemical weapons in Syria. Obama fought back for all the alleged defeats in Syria. We strictly adhered to the policy of non-interference in the "internal affairs" of Ukraine, our ambassador, the minister of embezzlers, did not take, unlike the American, any measures in upholding Russia's interests. And now the finale of the whole comedy. Our brothers in Ukraine can become victims of the Nazis, like those devoted to Yanukovych-Mazepovich, the soldiers of the Berkut-15 dead, and the wounded are countless. There people were robbed to a greater extent than in Russia, and they, slandered, as in 1933, supported the Nazis. Isn't it time to turn our government's attention to our traitorous oligarchs? As yesterday Zheleznyak decisively condemned the traitors in Ukraine, but he would have looked at himself more attentively. If Yanukovych surrendered our brotherly Ukraine, glad to save the $ 4 billion of his son who fled to the west, then who are we preparing to betray Russia for the tens of billions stolen from us? Receiving billions from VV Putin as assistance, already 4 billion, which his son would have if he were a patriot of his homeland, could have invested in the country's economy, but no private owner, in the words of our leadership is the most effective, thought only of himself. We, too, are ripening grapes of anger, and the venal anal and other marsh beetles will certainly take advantage of this to please the American owners. All with the coming holiday of the Day of the Soviet Army and Navy!
    1. +5
      22 February 2014 08: 28
      You are also 23rd! Although I served in the army of "Independent" Ukraine, I consider this very day the Day of the Defender of the Fatherland!
  13. predator.3
    +2
    22 February 2014 08: 07
    And how are things in Kharkov and in the other 9 southeastern regions? Now the word is yours!
  14. +3
    22 February 2014 08: 08
    from the Don.
    What can be the policy of Russia in Ukraine, when since: prince: Kravchuk there has been a deliberate, Russophobic policy fueled by the West? What can we negotiate with the descendants of Bandera?
  15. +2
    22 February 2014 08: 15
    People, did you find something to discuss - the revelations of this dung beetle Yushchenko ...
    1. +1
      22 February 2014 08: 53
      Where is this Yudenko now? From which bell tower is it crap? Over the ocean? Or in Evreype?
      1. 0
        22 February 2014 09: 29
        Quote: Renat
        Where is this Yudenko now?

        Yes, he is in Kiev !!! Rather, on your "hfasenda"! Looking at least from far away (from the tribune) but informing is true. Maybe the USA is holding him back as a "spare"?
  16. platitsyn70
    +2
    22 February 2014 08: 16
    it is necessary to take the bull by the horns to the southeast, put a normal person in the presidency, and not people like Kuchma, Yanukovych who promise one thing and do another, all presidents in Ukraine danced to the tune of the oligarchs and interfered with business and government affairs. Money and only money, the problem of Ukraine. "Whoever praises me will get a big tasty candy", this is a cartoon about the Ukrainian presidents.
  17. +2
    22 February 2014 08: 29
    He probably wrote it under the dictation of his Nazi wife. Many believe in this, our education has fallen below the plinth. And how could oligarchs flourish under Yushchenko ... And who all the same killed Getman and made pro-American Yushchenko the head of the National Bank, and then he put him in the presidential chair?
  18. 0
    22 February 2014 08: 29
    Quote: foka-alf
    We lost, thanks brothers who were for us, who went to our website and told the truth, God bless you, we will pray for you.

    Who are "we ? nicknames addresses turnout passwords .. bully
  19. +1
    22 February 2014 08: 37
    Russia always thinks it’s doing good, but everything turns against it. On the one hand, I like the opposition’s persistent and convinced standing and its victory, which awaits and hopes for a miracle against the rest, but there was no miracle, biting and stuffing something in the ass, accept soon a new government, or maybe it will be better of course, but they will not vote for the party of regions, and there is no other leader.
  20. +1
    22 February 2014 08: 59
    What can I say? In Ukraine, historically there were hetmans, and at the slaves the forelocks cracked. So these 4 hetman-presidents surrendered Ukraine. It remains, only
    through tears, sing: scho Ukraine did not die!
  21. +2
    22 February 2014 09: 35
    Quote: bubla5
    Russia always thinks doing good, but everything turns against him

    Look at the map of the world. Strongly against Russia Welcome turned around?
    Remember all the wars. Russia lost a lot of them?
    Remember what Russia has gone through the past 100 years? Has she really weakened? If it seems that yes, then compare with the former great England (edge ​​now a miserable island), the mighty Austria-Hungary and mighty Germany (the United States simply fades as he wants) So they took much smaller blows of fate
    And remember that we have 2% of the population 40% of the resources. That they need to fuss in the west. So fuss. And who is still a big question
    You know, I still believe that Good conquers evil, and Truth is stronger than lies, and even brainwashed
  22. 0
    22 February 2014 09: 43
    I read .. Author deserved plus.
    And what’s interesting. Yanukovych had every right and opportunity to plant Yushchenko, by the will of which Ukrainian neo-fascists especially raised their heads. But he regretted it. Good man, this Ukrainian president. First, he regretted the State Department’s licking puppet. Now he regretted the Natsiks who had shot him in the security forces and the people who elected him ...
    Miracles...
    1. philip
      0
      22 February 2014 10: 45
      Miracles do not happen, it will be mediocre between bad and very bad. A SPECIFIC wait and see.
  23. +3
    22 February 2014 09: 53
    I read and wonder how I lost, who? to whom? Russia doesn’t help abandoned, you probably forgot everything you shouted at all corners and not only on the left bank but also on the right bank, FORGOTTEN? And for a long time before these events, we ourselves, we are cool, I am silent about politicians in general, and I won’t call names and surnames, it’s not nice. Let Russia turn up as we will meet the aggressor, do not teach us how to live, we do not want to live with us and pay them, we are a free people. We are EUROPE, it is closer to us, we have a common mentality.
    And now, why Russia is silent, it does not help, but is this assistance of three billion and right there in front of everyone in Europe with outstretched hands. A month ago, I wrote that I was thinking about Klitschko on our site and that, go and see the results of this correspondence, and I was on the Russian site. As in principle in all historical times. As in principle, and in all historical times.
    Russia is doing everything right, ask for official help, gather in brigades in the army and protect your interests, and Russia is nearby and will always help, you only do it yourself, well, at least do something. Or will you work and sit at home, but will the Russian people do all the dirty work for you?
    1. philip
      +1
      22 February 2014 10: 49
      You can help someone who pulls the strap himself, and who does not pull, you have to harness it.
    2. 0
      22 February 2014 19: 56
      wassat Who is the minus? Patriots IN UKRAINE? angry
  24. poccinin
    0
    22 February 2014 10: 35
    in Ukraine, everything is just beginning. Here does not recognize the new power of the southeast and Crimea. And then what?
    1. stranik72
      -1
      22 February 2014 12: 14
      Quote: poccinin
      in Ukraine, everything is just beginning. Here does not recognize the new power of the southeast and Crimea. And then what?

      He admits that they will not go anywhere, there are neither leaders nor the desire of the people to get involved in this business, so they will bother with words and that's it. Russia also made a stupidity, not a single year seeing how Ukraine was gradually "being banded" looked at it from the outside, "we do not interfere" but the ki of all stripes and the descendants of those who unleashed 2 MV don’t bother with it and as a result we have what we have another evil unfriendly state next to our home - Russia. It is a pity for the people, but whoever asked him, all the more it seems like the majority of Ukrainians are not against these events.
  25. 0
    22 February 2014 11: 41
    Everything is just beginning, the Nazis are trying in vain, neither Europe nor the United States will get up in a military confrontation with Russia because of them, although we will be greatly distracted from pressing problems (economic growth, agriculture, employment problems, migration, etc.) They also understand perfectly well that the "trinity" are political corpses that are living out their last days, a kind of Moors. The main (paid) goal is the elimination of Ukraine as a state, the creation of an embittered Galician-fascist puppet state, a supplier of cannon fodder in future local conflicts in the world. Therefore, the isolation of the Bandera supporters and their accomplices, who have crawled out of the caches, initiated by the current Ukrainian authorities themselves, is the primary task of all honest citizens of Ukraine!
  26. -2
    22 February 2014 12: 10
    in Ukraine, everything is just beginning. Here does not recognize the new power of the southeast and Crimea. And then what? Yes, nothing will happen, silently swallow any power that the zapadentsy will bring. Yes, and I like how they persistently systematically overthrow the regime. And why should they be harassed, we do not own anything either, total theft and chaos of officials everywhere
    1. Aleksandr65
      +1
      22 February 2014 13: 23
      == Yes, and I like how they persistently systematically overthrow the regime ==
      Love the revolution, then. I hope that the revolutionaries-fighters-with-oligarchs will beat up your car with bats, and rob you with impunity (as in Kiev in the absence of the police), despite being poor, there is something
  27. 0
    22 February 2014 13: 30
    The Southeast needs to nationalize the property of all Kolomoisky and Poroshenko sponsoring the Maidan. And declare a financial strike, stop financing Kiev. In 3-6 months it will become clear who feeds whom to Ukraine.
    Yes, and Tymoshenko must be released, she will bury Nezalezhnaya better and faster than everyone.
  28. +1
    22 February 2014 17: 08
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Igor39
    .Well, right now they will adopt a new constitution, the West will flood up with money and how they will heal ...

    The West just like that, never, did not give anything to anyone. Yes, and they have been waiting for the promised three years.

    Why should they give? They don’t need to be full, then they will fight badly. Russian will not be angry.
  29. main
    +2
    22 February 2014 17: 54
    I liked the article. And as for the opponents of the Ukrainian state, in my opinion, the most serious opponent is the Ukrainian people themselves, and if he, this people, does not want to live in a single state, then no Russia will help him. Or as he said our President- * we cannot be Serbs more than the Serbs themselves *
  30. 0
    22 February 2014 21: 40
    Quote: valokordin
    Well, who was hanging in the media ......... they will take advantage of this. All with the upcoming holiday Day of the Soviet Army and Navy!


    A mixture of naivety, thoughtlessness and even say stupidity, which can only be forgiven because of age.
    1. Yanukovych did not receive anything. The fact is that Putin, as always, deceived both Yanyka and the West. 15 billion is Ukraine’s long, its securities listed on the Irish Exchange .... And Putin announced that he would buy them back at the expense of American and European securities that they owe to Russia. From the budget of Russia not a single ruble.
    Further, the point is that Ukraine could spend the amount equivalent to the tranche sums not for paying off external debt, but for domestic needs .... Is the point clear? if not, re-read it again ... No cash, only the ability to use domestic money for domestic needs.

    2. The authorities have long paid attention to the traitor oligarchs, but they just either didn’t report to you personally, or you somehow strangely follow the news. Putin gave them a year and they are fulfilling at a frantic pace, transferring their capital from offshore. Because the state refuses to give orders to those business .. oh, oligarchs who have bank accounts in the offshore zone. Work is going on ....

    3. Further - the Law prohibiting officials and civil servants from having accounts abroad and property has been adopted and implemented. Oh, again you were not reported to the kitchen? Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, in cooperation with the Accounts Chamber and the intelligence of the Ministry of Finance, carries out checks, identifies and cases are referred to court. A person either leaves the post, or refuses to take property, while the investigation asks the questions "where does the money come from, Zin?", Or they leave the deputy and bureaucratic chairs ..

    This is all against the backdrop of vigorous opposition from both liberals of all stripes and Medvedev, who is at the head of the most pro-Western government that existed in Russia ...

    Yarovaya introduced the Law on Responsibility for Defamation of the Great Patriotic War and Veterans of the Great Patriotic War ... And not fines, but bars ... That's what they call it - for spreading deliberate lies ... Oh, how the adder boiled ....

    4. We don’t have to look at anal ones, they merged themselves by participating in a poll of Rain and statements about how they hate the word Rodina .... But on an attempt, by the way, only postponed, to hold a rally of a million Muslims in Moscow ....

    PS The latest news from the Rada - A bill has been introduced on the ban of the Russian language throughout Ukraine and the introduction of criminal punishment for its use ... my wife already ran away from that room from the TV all in shock ... voiced a minute ago .... One hope is that Julia Vladimirovna somehow calms this rabble.
  31. +1
    23 February 2014 04: 35
    Probably a new candidate from Galicia. Http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/911/osed261.jpg