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In the US, freedom of speech is less than in Ghana

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In the US, freedom of speech is less than in Ghana

One of the pillars of democracy, guaranteed in the United States of America by the first amendment, is rapidly losing the brilliance of its infallibility.


The unfortunate fact was stated by the international organization Reporters Without Borders. In the list of 180 countries where the situation with freedom of speech was monitored, the USA rolled back to 14 positions in just one year, finding themselves in the 46 position. The situation with the right of citizens to freely express their thoughts in the United States was even worse than in such states as Ghana, South Africa and El Salvador.

"Countries that are proud of their democracy and the rule of law are in fact far from an example to follow. Freedom of speech is too often sacrificed for an overly broad and rigid understanding of national security," the study authors say. According to Reporters Without Borders, the Obama administration is taking more and more stringent measures to leaks — over five years, the Department of Justice has filed more lawsuits than any other American president.

As evidence of a “discouraging departure from democratic norms,” the report cites many good examples. The most revealing ones are the brutal conviction of Bradley Manning, the merciless persecution of Edward Snowden, and the court’s decision, which obliged New York Times correspondent James Reisen to testify against former CIA officer Jeffrey Sterling. The latter provided the newspaper’s editors with information about a secret US operation against the Iranian nuclear program.

However, the greatest outrage of the Reporters Without Borders is caused by the age-old term of imprisonment, which threatens independent journalist Barrett Brown. The reason for such a harsh punishment may be the information he made public, obtained by hackers when the server of a private intelligence and analytical company Statfor, nicknamed "the shadow CIA", was hacked.

The mass media itself concerns the scandal that erupted last spring. Then it became known that from April to May 2012, the security services tapped the telephone numbers of the offices of the Associated Press news agency (AP) in New York, Washington and Hartford without a court order. At the initiative of the US Department of Justice, experts from Langley in this way tried to find out who “leaked” information to the AP journalists about the CIA special operation in Yemen. All attempts by President AP Gary Pruitt to get justice broke on the statement of US Attorney General Eric Holder that this "very, very serious leak" could "put American citizens at great risk" and "demanded decisive action."

Unsightly история The humiliation of AP employees is indicative in many ways. It perfectly illustrates: who, like and under what pretext, deprived the American media of independence, relegating them to a state of the instrument in the hands of the ruling elite. At the beginning of the 70 of the last century, the presence in the United States of a truly independent "fourth estate" made Watergate possible, which resulted in not only the first resignation of the president during his lifetime, but also the restriction of the activities of American special services. In 1978, under the impression of Watergate, Congress adopted the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which placed under tight legislative and judicial control the process of gathering information about citizens within the country.

The intelligence community won back after 11 September 2001. Shocked by the fall of the twin towers and frightened by the threat of a repetition of such terrorist acts, America meekly agreed to part with their constitutional rights and freedoms in exchange for security guarantees. The Patriotic Act (USA Patriotic Act) (2001 year), the Terrorist Surveillance Act (2006) and Protect America Act (2007) helped the security services to break free of the "shackles" of FISA. America was freed from freedom of speech just as quickly and consistently.

First of all, the White House dealt with national print publications, television and radio channels. For the "correct and objective" coverage of America's "crusade" against terrorism, special rules of conduct were prescribed to the mass media. Their general meaning is well conveyed by a memorandum sent out in the fall of 2001 by the head of CNN Walter Isaacson to all the creative staff of the channel. It defined the criteria for covering US operations in Afghanistan. “We should not pay too much attention to civilian casualties in Afghanistan, which will inevitably be during this war,” Isaacson instructed his subordinates. “Each report from Afghanistan should be accompanied by a commentary reminding that the Taliban are sheltering terrorists in their territory five thousand people (US citizens killed by the September 11 attacks. - Approx. fbii). "

In the same vein, leading US media supported the invasion of Iraq, becoming, according to the apt definition of the head of the Institute for Political Economy, Paul Craig Roberts, "a propaganda ministry for government and corporations." The same Roberts very precisely describes the essence of the degradation of the once exemplary mass media from the point of view of democracy: "In recent years, the Clinton regime has allowed the government to five powerful conglomerates to seize isolated and to some extent independent media. licenses, so they don’t dare to oppose the government on any important issues. In addition, they are now controlled not by journalists, but by advertising specialists and former rulers idents officials, trying not to light on the facts and to income from advertising and access to administrative resources. "

The manageability of the American information giants is clearly visible not only in the foreign policy direction (presenting the situation in the Middle East, politicizing the Olympics in Sochi, relations with China), but also when covering events taking place in the United States itself. For example, not one of the media kits (CNN, Fox News or MSNBC) reacted in any way to Occupy Wall Street, which began in September 2011. And while hundreds of thousands of people took part in protests that spilled far beyond New York, corporate news the channels either completely ignored what was happening, or presented it in a negative light.

Similarly, all the national media have silenced the mysterious story of the shelling of a group of snipers at a substation in Silicon Valley. Releasing more than 20 bullets in 100 minutes, the arrows damaged 17 transformers and disappeared in an unknown direction. The incident, which falls under the definition of "internal terrorism", became widely known after almost a year only thanks to local newspapers and bloggers. Paradox, but even Snowden's revelations, which should have been the beginning of the struggle for a return to the previous limits of freedom of speech, turned against her. After learning about the virtually limitless possibilities of the NSA and the FBI in controlling the personal information of American citizens, journalists are even more engaged in self-censorship. After all, everyone has his own “skeleton in the closet”, and in the current conditions it is not difficult for the special services to find him in the closet of a recalcitrant journalist.

Today, many experts in America themselves bitterly admit that freedom of speech is barely on the pages of small regional publications and on the Internet. But even there she did not seem to live for long. In February, the Pentagon launched the Memex project to create a super-powerful search engine that will be able to penetrate any hidden corners of the World Wide Web and overcome the most complex protection. And then it will be impossible to hide from the "big brother"!
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  1. fimusito
    fimusito 23 February 2014 11: 47
    +17
    Mother of God. Who would have thought.
    1. Civil
      Civil 23 February 2014 12: 06
      +19
      What did you want ... capitalism)
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 23 February 2014 13: 00
        +11
        A little off topic, but now I look at Syria, I am surprised at their heroism, well done Syrians, skilled fighters, learned how to smash bandits cool, although old-fashioned technique, but wise to act!

        1. alone
          alone 23 February 2014 13: 22
          0
          Well, how much to take Jobar for three years? You did not count?
        2. kot11180
          kot11180 23 February 2014 14: 38
          +4
          Very competently fighting, well done!
          1. AVV
            AVV 23 February 2014 22: 17
            +2
            Quote: kot11180
            Very competently fighting, well done!

            It's time the Syrians send to the Maidan to restore constitutional order, otherwise there is nobody else !!!
        3. Altona
          Altona 23 February 2014 17: 24
          +2
          Quote: Sergh
          A little off topic, but now I look at Syria, I am surprised at their heroism, well done Syrians, skilled fighters, learned how to smash bandits cool, although old-fashioned technique, but wise to act!

          -------------------------
          Strength is in Truth! By the way, Syria, the land with which Jesus came, the prophet and son of God cannot help his army ...
  2. Altona
    Altona 23 February 2014 11: 49
    +16
    The Ministry of Truth is expanding its capabilities to the impossible ... The Empire of Goodness is preparing to inflict a final blow to mankind and parasitize on its corpse, and for this it is necessary to poison the victim’s brain so that it does not know that it is being eaten, eagerly, unabashed, tearing pieces splashing with blood .. .
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 23 February 2014 12: 47
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      parasitize on his corpse, and for this it is necessary to poison the victim’s brain so that she does not know that they are eating it, eagerly, excitedly, tearing off pieces splashing with blood ...

      belay Strong!
      1. Aryan
        Aryan 23 February 2014 22: 32
        0
        In the US, freedom of speech is less than in Ghana
        and where more sweaty blacks tired of work
        there are also fewer settlements stop
        see work bad wassat
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  3. mad
    mad 23 February 2014 11: 54
    0
    Ha, America discovered) Do you think freedom in Russia? Half of our media reports to the State Department, the second to the Kremlin. And by the way, this is a completely normal situation when the media work in the interests of the government, of course, if their own. Do you want freedom? Go to the Internet and choose information sources according to your needs.
    1. Altona
      Altona 23 February 2014 12: 01
      +8
      Quote: mad
      And by the way, this is a completely normal situation when the media work in the interests of the government, of course, if their own.

      -------------------------------------
      They don’t give a damn to all the media about their Governments from the television towers, all of them have long been working only for their sponsors, and there are sponsors richer than governments. I’m not sure that in the USA the media work for the Government, there the Government has a lot of problems inside ... It seems to me that almost all the media are practically corrupt ...

      And about FREEDOM OF WORDS ... What kind of FREEDOM OF WORDS is it that you have to hide the TRUTH on thousands of secret servers, and for its disclosure a person’s earth flashes under his feet and he gets into all the black lists?
      1. renics
        renics 23 February 2014 12: 50
        +2
        (I don’t give a damn to all the mass media about their Governments from the television towers, all of them have long been working only for their sponsors, and there are sponsors richer than governments.)
        -------------------------------------------------- ----
        Not quite an accurate statement. All sponsors or owners of the media themselves are related to the ruling elite to the government to power, as they say, those in power over those who do not have power. In any country, no matter what, only two categories of citizens are illegal, these are the authorities and criminals. The former, by virtue of their political will, can change any law to their advantage, which, incidentally, happens due to which crisis and poverty are everywhere. The second, knowing this, are not going to be law-abiding and are also engaged in illegal operations, until the moment when they are of the same political will those in power do not pinch.
      2. Psyjoker
        Psyjoker 23 February 2014 18: 20
        0
        At lectures, they told me a hundred times that independent media do not exist. Just because any type of activity, whether it is print, TV, radio or the Internet, requires a lot of money. Such money by advertising is far from always possible to obtain, which means that there must be a nursing hand, whose interests will be promoted if necessary. The only question is who pays the most. laughing
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 23 February 2014 13: 40
      +5
      Decent answer pin dosam close-up! We look forward to continuing.



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  4. Tourist Breakfast
    Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 11: 56
    0
    "Reporters Without Borders". In the list of 180 countries where the situation with freedom of speech was monitored, the United States in just a year fell back 14 positions at once, finding itself in 46th place.


    The article seems to be old.
    I looked for interest on the website "Reporters Without Borders" their rating for 2013. The USA is in 32nd place after climbing 15 positions.
    Russia, by the way - on the 148.
    http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2013,1054.html
    1. igordok
      igordok 23 February 2014 12: 10
      +7
      Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
      their rating for 2013 year. USA at 32 place
      climbed to xnumx positions.
      Russia, by the way - on the 148.

      And the judge is who. (with)
      1. PPL
        PPL 23 February 2014 12: 35
        +7
        This organization only criticizes countries hostile to the United States, such as Cuba, Belarus, or Russia. At the same time, US-friendly regimes (the Philippines or Saudi Arabia), in which freedom of speech is almost completely absent, are not criticized.
        And what else to expect if these "Reporters Without Borders" are sitting with open beaks (only birds sing for free) and are waiting for handouts from Soros and others like him.
        1. Tourist Breakfast
          Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 12: 44
          -1
          The organization criticizes only US-hostile countries such as Cuba, Belarus or Russia. At the same time, US-friendly regimes (the Philippines or Saudi Arabia), in which freedom of speech is almost completely absent, are not criticized.
          And what else to expect if these "Reporters Without Borders" are sitting with open beaks (only birds sing for free) and are waiting for handouts from Soros and others like him.


          Yes, yes .. Saudi Arabia - in the 163rd place, the Philippines - in the 147th. Israel is on the 112th. Can we read the rating first?
          1. smile
            smile 23 February 2014 13: 40
            +10
            Tourist Breakfast
            Come on, you might think you don’t know how such ratings are compiled.
            Here is an example about freedom of speech from the Baltic states. Each person who is hired in Lithuania to work in a state institution (for example, a cleaning lady by mail) gives a multi-page subscription about what he should report to the Children's hospital - for example, about all those who express dissatisfaction with the policy of the Lithuanian leadership, the economic situation in the country, etc. - I repeat - hundreds of points on several pages. For failure to report - criminal liability. During the crisis, criminal liability for publicly mentioning the crisis was introduced. Well, and in the same vein .....
            What the hell is freedom of speech? What is their rating?
            Well, I don’t like the fact that in the USA there are forces that Israel and its efforts to pursue an independent policy, I believe, you know. :))) And about Saudi Arabia, where until now women have been stoned and chopped up with limbs and nothing to say, although they are allies of the United States, they are also trying to dodge and gain independence. Moreover, the customs there are not very different from S. Korea.
            So, the price of similar ratings - the cat sneezed.
            1. Tourist Breakfast
              Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 14: 04
              +2
              So, the price of similar ratings - the cat sneezed.

              Yes, do not care about this rating.
              It's not about the reliability of the rating itself, but about how the author of the article uses it for his own purposes. "We read here, we don't read here, we wrap the fish here" (c)
              1. smile
                smile 23 February 2014 14: 24
                +5
                Tourist Breakfast
                There is such a letter. :))) The remark is justified.
                But the matter can be turned in a different way - if such a US-controlled gang as the "reporters without borders" enti howled from the lack of freedom of speech in these US, then with this very freedom there is full of ... cucumbers. :)))
                It's all right? )))
                1. Tourist Breakfast
                  Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 14: 32
                  +2
                  But the matter can be turned in a different way - if such a US-controlled gang as the "reporters without borders" enti howled from the lack of freedom of speech in these US, then with this very freedom there is full of ... cucumbers. :)))
                  It's all right? )))

                  It was last year. They write that because of the brutal suppression of "Occupy Wall Street". This year, the United States has climbed 15 places.
                  It is always useful to read the originals.
                  1. Penzyac
                    Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 12
                    +3
                    NSA knows how to convince journalists.
                  2. smile
                    smile 23 February 2014 15: 15
                    +2
                    Tourist Breakfast
                    Well. you can’t argue here. :))) I agree.
          2. Penzyac
            Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 08
            +1
            You want to say that they are objective?
        2. 222222
          222222 23 February 2014 13: 40
          +2
          you DO NOT understand ... ALL FREEDOM of the United States is enclosed in their symbol-in the statue of Liberty .. and that’s enough for them ..
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 23 February 2014 15: 50
            +1
            Quote: 222222
            you DO NOT understand ... ALL FREEDOM of the United States is enclosed in their symbol-in the statue of Liberty .. and that’s enough for them ..

            Right! They sent the remnants of freedom to the statue and now her darling can only be seen on tours of this statue, without the right to be brought into the light!
            I would say freedom in the USA is concluded in the statue.
            1. 222222
              222222 23 February 2014 19: 39
              +1
              "R a by S t and u" ... you have to rub it .. and Freedom will come out and America will collapse ..
      2. Tourist Breakfast
        Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 12: 48
        -4
        And the judge is who. (with)

        In this case, the judges are the same. The author denounces the United States based on the report of Reporters Without Borders, but at the same time he is silent that this organization evaluates press freedom in Russia much worse. In my opinion, a complete sur.
        1. Yura
          Yura 23 February 2014 14: 46
          +3
          Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
          The author denounces the States on the basis of the report of Reporters Without Borders, but at the same time he is silent that this organization evaluates press freedom in Russia much worse. In my opinion, a complete sur.

          I agree with the full sur, but only your comment, the author wrote an article about the United States and its media, which we are discussing. Your task with and without reason to mention Russia (and always in a negative way) regardless of whether it is appropriate within the topic or not? Watch your face, lose it. And if you write an article about the Russian media, then we’ll talk, by the way, it would be interesting in what perspective you see it, that is, rollicking rampant freedom of speech or something else?
          1. Tourist Breakfast
            Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 15: 10
            0
            Let’s say a certain Vasya claims that I stole a chocolate bar in a supermarket and that you are none other than a killer maniac.
            Do you begin to bring Vasya as a reliable source, wanting to convict me of theft?
            1. smile
              smile 23 February 2014 16: 14
              +5
              Tourist Breakfast
              :))) You this ... that ... first return the chocolate .... :)))
              1. Tourist Breakfast
                Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 16: 25
                +4
                Tourist Breakfast
                :))) You this ... that ... first return the chocolate .... :)))


                smile
                I can not. Chocolate went to the cause of strengthening peace in the world.
                1. smile
                  smile 23 February 2014 18: 30
                  0
                  Tourist Breakfast
                  Well, since they ordered the kidnapped at their discretion .... that is, they used chocolate to save the World, then okay ... :))) I hope that the beautiful saleswomen did not disappear in the supermarket. And then, they say, beauty also saves the world ... :)))
                  Yes, and too much in one hand - and the girl and the chocolate ... :)))
                  1. Tourist Breakfast
                    Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 19: 19
                    0
                    smile
                    Well, since they ordered the kidnapped at their discretion .... that is, they used chocolate to save the World, then okay ... :))) I hope that the beautiful saleswomen did not disappear in the supermarket. And then, they say, beauty also saves the world ... :)))


                    This is already a topic for a new article: "According to the report of the authoritative organization" Saleswomen without Borders ", dozens of cashiers and hundreds of distributors of goods are kidnapped all over the world every day."
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 17
          +2
          This only confirms the above (and who are the judges?).
          1. Tourist Breakfast
            Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 15: 45
            0
            This only confirms the above (and who are the judges?).

            Well so it should be a question for the author of the article.
    2. SSR
      SSR 23 February 2014 12: 30
      +6
      Quote: Tourist Breakfast
      "Reporters Without Borders". In the list of 180 countries where the situation with freedom of speech was monitored, the United States in just a year fell back 14 positions at once, finding itself in 46th place.


      Russia, by the way - on the 148.
      http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2013,1054.html

      Russia is at 148th place. Please tell me, who cares? This tsifirka is interesting only to such as cnn, novodvorskaya, kasparysh and other riffraff, they repeatedly appeal to these numbers, but the fact that our law enforcement system is one-sided, every second agrees with this, came to our city of Upr. The company has frank crime, the press paints the whole story and the prosecutor’s office doesn’t scratch. So you can at least eat freedom with us.
      1. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 23 February 2014 12: 49
        +6
        The Americans themselves recognize that the freest country is Russia. * You can do anything .. and we have our freedom about_t_rahali * - they say so. Do not ask me for links, I didn’t save the sources, but I read this many times on many sites.
        1. alone
          alone 23 February 2014 13: 28
          0
          Quote: Gunsmith
          The Americans themselves recognize that the freest country is Russia. * You can do anything ..


          And you were not interested in what plan in Russia everything is possible?
          1. smile
            smile 23 February 2014 14: 11
            +12
            alone
            I have an acquaintance Pole. For 15 years we have been working as a foreman. Before that, he worked in Germany, and, as he puts it, "in Chekhah". An interesting guy :))) Yurek is 52 years old. While sober - for the friendship of peoples. How he gets drunk - the lights are off - everyone around is bad - in Germany he was kept in the position of a slave and was not even allowed to go outside the construction site, in Chekhah - there was little money, the police were driving the Poles and, in general, there were only b ... :))) But we, too, svvvvolochi - the whole history of the poor Poles offended ... :))) When asked, what kind of Allah do you practically live here, he answers - you have ss ... there is freedom - no one tells me what to do, no one is especially your business controls and does not press, even if they are fined, then in a divine way. and not as monstrous as ours, you can argue with the police, especially without risking, the newspapers talk about what they want, the demonstrators are not fined some thousands of 6 bucks, they are not chopped into cabbage with clubs ... :))) Besides, who am I in Poland? - Nobody. there are plenty of them. Who am I in Germany - a Polish guy whom any policeman will gladly give in the teeth! And here I am a POLE! :)))
            Frankly, I did not particularly like his statement about our "freedom". But I brought this opinion because it belongs to a person who treats us rather negatively. :))) This sinister likes it here. :)))
            1. Yura
              Yura 23 February 2014 14: 50
              +1
              Quote: smile
              This sinister loves it here. :)))

              In fact, a goat, and there are many, and not only from Poland.
            2. Babon
              Babon 23 February 2014 16: 17
              +1
              Moreover, now our slowly copying the laws of the West are tightening public order, a terrible howl arises in the Internet forums about the police state, where are we going. But sometimes our departed people, who don’t even have a Russian keyboard, sometimes go there and they are surprised to write that they have the norm there, and the fines are better.
              1. Ivan.
                Ivan. 23 February 2014 17: 08
                +1
                Quote: Babon
                Moreover, now our slowly copying the laws of the West are tightening public order,

                Rather, the West imposes.
            3. Babon
              Babon 23 February 2014 16: 46
              +1
              And you did not tell this Pole that they were from Austria, and from different Germans, too, no less than from Russia? When Poland was divided, the Austrians there also crushed uprisings, if not narrower.
              1. smile
                smile 23 February 2014 17: 19
                +6
                Babon
                Yes, there is no need to tell anything. He is a knowledgeable guy - he received education in Soviet times. So, to put it mildly, he also does not like them. In this regard, he is a real Pole. They are like the famous Mamba, who hates everyone ... :))) In his opinion, all the neighbors (and not only them) are guilty of Polish troubles. Even Americans, French and British (this is not characteristic of young Poles). The main fault of those who are not neighbors - they helped a little and untimely to save the Poles from us, Tatars and Germans ... for 800 years ... *)))
                We villains are by far the most villainous villains ... :)))
                And he speaks only drunk - sober - an excellent man. He says - both our and your politicians are eating shit, their womb tsurva :))) He hates his politicians ... everyone ... more than us ... :)))

                He got attached to me because I am a Polish quarteron. True, he sometimes calls me a traitor to the Polish people, a commissar, an oprichnik and an executioner of the Chechen people ... :))) This is useful to me. like it, and it's funny to watch him get angry when I happily agree. :)))
            4. alone
              alone 23 February 2014 19: 02
              +1
              Quote: smile
              no one tells me what to do, no one your business especially does not control and does not press, even if fined, then divine. and not as monstrous as we have, you can argue with the police, especially not risking, the newspapers shake what they want, the protesters do not fine 6 thousand bucks, they don’t chop with cabbage into cabbage ..


              Vladimir Greetings, but this just shows why they say that everything is possible in Russia. what
              1. smile
                smile 24 February 2014 01: 17
                0
                alone
                :))) And you are the same in the same place. :)))

                Naturally. Do you really think that I told this without realizing how it looks from the outside? :))) Nevertheless, even in the words of Yurek there are moments that speak in our favor :))) And at the same time it is necessary to take into account the pathological Russophobia of the guy. He explores our shortcomings under a microscope :)))
          2. Penzyac
            Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 23
            +1
            The plan is to talk.
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 22
        0
        Verify the truth. There is freedom of speech, but Vaska listens and eats.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 23 February 2014 14: 01
      +3
      Russia is at 148th place. And if the list is turned over? Where will the EGR be? laughing
      It is time to already understand WHO compiles these ratings and for what purposes.
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    5. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 05
      +1
      It seems that "reporters without borders" with freedom of speech also has a fountain.
      1. RND
        RND 23 February 2014 18: 10
        0
        Quote: PENZYAC
        It seems that "reporters without borders" with freedom of speech also has a fountain.


        Yeah, and they started throwing a little at the beak. Here is the rating and has changed.
        The situation with the right of citizens to freely express their thoughts in the United States was worse than even in states such as Ghana, South Africa and El Salvador.
        Apparently a package with bananas from Ghana came to the "reporters" office.
  5. stroporez
    stroporez 23 February 2014 11: 57
    +4
    where does "freedom of speech" come from in the Reich?
  6. fedorovith
    fedorovith 23 February 2014 12: 03
    +2
    Yes, let them (USA) be on the first, something tongue
  7. mad
    mad 23 February 2014 12: 16
    +1
    Quote: Altona
    They don’t give a damn to all the media about their Governments from the television towers, all of them have long been working only for their sponsors, and there are sponsors richer than governments. I’m not sure that in the USA the media work for the Government, there the Government has a lot of problems inside ... It seems to me that almost all the media are practically corrupt ...

    I agree only partially, the vector of venality is determined by the owner of the media holding, bottoms are already sold within the boundaries established by the owner. The same owners control (or enter into them) the governments of their countries, but if they do not control, they try not to go into deep confrontation - otherwise Gusinsky and the company will end badly.
  8. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 23 February 2014 12: 20
    +9
    Capitalism and freedom of speech are not initially compatible; those who pay pay orders songs.
    In the United States, the most dangerous profession was the publication of newspapers with truthful reports. Prohibit anything
    They didn’t forbid, but simply killed journalists, editors, publishers. Or sent to jail
    on false charges.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 23 February 2014 14: 15
      0
      Freedom of speech in - pin Dosowski. laughing

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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 23 February 2014 14: 15
      +2
      Freedom of speech in - pin Dosowski. laughing

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/064/fqpo799.jpg
  9. upasika1918
    upasika1918 23 February 2014 12: 23
    0
    We lived with comedians, survived. Let the Americans try, maybe they will survive.
    1. RND
      RND 23 February 2014 17: 16
      +3
      Quote: upasika1918
      We lived with comedians, survived. Let the Americans try, maybe they will survive.


      Sorry for being stupid.
      Who are the "comedians"?
  10. Vadim12
    Vadim12 23 February 2014 12: 29
    +1
    intentions have long realized. Now imaginary freedom of speech and shit will not hide
  11. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 23 February 2014 12: 35
    +3
    Information war, what did you want? Maybe it's enough to be outraged by the actions of the Americans, they have their own country, we have our own. "Oh, the American CIA destroyed the USSR," but why did the KGB not destroy the United States? Ah, Radio Liberty hangs on our ears, but why we do not have Radio Liberty, which will hang noodles on their ears? Why do our competent authorities not attack, but somehow calmly observe all this? Why in Russia some trash can pour dirt on the same games in Sochi, and on TV or radio? Yes, let him go to x .. with his own opinion. Why should we discuss it or even hear it? They got free in Ukraine that the Nazis came to power and demanded that the Russian language be banned, some fascist one has to go nuts in a neighboring country the courage to raise your filthy hand on the cultural heritage of the whole world. In short, it's time to end the liberal cesspool, and all these, if I may say "ratings", be used for their intended purpose in public toilets.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 29
      +1
      Now Ukraine in their ratings will skyrocket ...
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 23 February 2014 16: 30
      +1
      Quote: Standard Oil
      The information war, what did you want? It may be enough to be indignant at the actions of the Americans, they have their own country, we have our own.

      Why should I calmly watch and not be indignant when I see how, in pin dosii, they are setting their citizens on us? The information war is only an integral part of a conventional war, and here any methods are good except those that humiliate our human dignity.
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Freedom hangs noodles on our ears, but why don't we have Radio Liberty that will hang noodles on their ears?

      We are not at war with the people, but with the puppeteers, they are the other way around. So we have different methods.
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Look at Ukraine, it’s been freeware that the Nazis came to power and demand that the Russian language be banned, some fascist has the courage to raise a fucking hand in a neighboring country to the cultural heritage of the whole world.

      They did not come; they brought them, as in Germany, no difference.
      Quote: Standard Oil
      In short, it's time to end the liberal cesspool,

      How? How do corrupt officials fight themselves? Mainly trash falls into power and the people prefer to pretend to be the population. I believe that people will give birth to deliverers from themselves, but for this they must wake up and stop posing as consumers and most importantly are not afraid of death.
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Why in Russia some trash can pour dirt on the same games in Sochi, and on TV or radio? Yes, let him go to x .. with his opinion.

      This is the ultimate ultimatum we must pose to the authorities, why if, according to the constitution, we are the only government, all sorts of paid disadvantages will be shattered with impunity for us - we do not need such executive power!
  12. from punk
    from punk 23 February 2014 12: 42
    +2
    their freedom of speech remained only in cartoons smile
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 23 February 2014 16: 37
      0
      Quote: punk
      their freedom of speech remained only in cartoons smile

      Well, why only in cartoons and Captain America? Recently, he saved America from the attack of evil aliens, but there are also role-playing games where everyone can protect democracy and freedom of speech.
  13. Partizan
    Partizan 23 February 2014 12: 45
    +1
    Quote: Standard Oil

    .... but why didn't the KGB ruin the United States? Ah, ...

    Wah - Why, why, such a task was not posed - that’s why!
  14. v53993
    v53993 23 February 2014 12: 48
    0
    Bill of rights, some of them chirping. Not long they left to crow.
    1. Partizan
      Partizan 23 February 2014 12: 50
      0
      Quote: v53993
      ... but they are chirping ...

      What is this language?
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  15. demotivator
    demotivator 23 February 2014 12: 50
    +3
    Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
    I looked for interest on the website "Reporters Without Borders" their rating for 2013. The USA is in 32nd place after climbing 15 positions.
    Russia, by the way - on the 148.

    So you don't know how to be here? Either rejoice for Ghana, or grieve for Russia? One consolation is that the US still has "less freedom of speech than in Ghana."
  16. Penzyac
    Penzyac 23 February 2014 12: 54
    +2
    A little off topic, happy holiday! Skis, 50km - our whole pedestal !!! Congratulate everyone!
  17. renics
    renics 23 February 2014 12: 57
    +3
    Quote: Standard Oil
    Radio Liberty hangs noodles on our ears, but why don't we have Radio Liberty that hang noodles on their ears?

    Why not eat called Russia Today. But the goals and objectives are different for everyone.
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 23 February 2014 13: 42
      +3
      But for some reason they forget that their law "On Foreign Agents" twists so much that in comparison with them we have no such law.
      Try to stutter in theirs penates "we know how to get around the law", half of the village would go, and the second would fly out of the country with the blacklisting, but we have democracy.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 34
        0
        Yeah, try to publish a real rating and that’s all - Ales Kaput.
  18. siberalt
    siberalt 23 February 2014 13: 02
    +2
    Latest news. At the Olympics no one will catch us! Russia is the first!
  19. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 23 February 2014 13: 39
    0
    Freedom of speech is a double-edged sword. It seems to everyone that she is good, because then it will be possible to say what you want and how you want. But on the other hand, sometimes it does more harm than good.
    I will not poke a finger in certain countries, this is not necessary.
    I’m ready to argue that many comrades agree with me - the media can either serve the cause of the collapse and exposure of the state, or, on the contrary, hide the truth and do everything so that the state is united. In both places they are wrong. In the first, as a result, there will be no one to broadcast, and in the second there is nothing to broadcast.
    The ideal option is to go along with the state, supporting it, but not starting to sing a laudatory ode, and at the same time pointing out mistakes, but not getting lost in the spirit of "Everything is lost, polymers are fucked up." But this is difficult. Therefore, they restrict freedom so as not to corrupt the minds of unreasonable listeners and viewers of the media.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 23 February 2014 16: 55
      +1
      Quote: ShadowCat
      The ideal option is to go along with the state, supporting it, but not starting to sing a laudatory ode, and at the same time pointing out mistakes, but not getting lost in the spirit of "Everything is lost, polymers are fucked up." But this is difficult. Therefore, they restrict freedom so as not to corrupt the minds of unreasonable listeners and viewers of the media.

      The ideal state is OUR and not as it is now, the SMD is tearing people away with their lies or distortions into factions, so that it is ours that most citizens are interested and understand what is happening, understand that they have responsibility and no one else. The people’s delegation of their power to specific individuals is the path to slavery, there should be only executive power, real legislative power cannot be transferred under any circumstances, otherwise we will receive parliamentary immunity and complete dictatorship from those who seized power, as well as a bunch of secrets and a complete misunderstanding of the real situation by the people.
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 23 February 2014 17: 03
        0
        You say the right thing. The ideal state would be in which the citizen had social responsibility and consciousness before the state and society.
        But there is one thing - most of the people are passive and live according to the principle "My house is on the edge", which is why your model will not work, in the end everything will fall into a clique of activists that monopolize the state apparatus and turn it around as it wants.
        1. Ivan.
          Ivan. 23 February 2014 18: 44
          0
          Quote: ShadowCat
          The ideal state would be in which the citizen had social responsibility and consciousness before the state and society.

          Try to understand, I have not yet seen a person who would react irresponsibly to what belongs to him (unless of course he has stolen) and vice versa, and then there’s no need to talk about responsibility and therefore people would not be passive.
          Quote: ShadowCat
          , in the end, everything will slide into a clique of activists who monopolize the state apparatus and turn it around as it wants.

          How if there is no way to start strengthening your power by being just an executor, albeit with broad powers. Take a closer look at what we have, that the United States, in one way or another, including direct intimidation, makes people come to terms with the laws they adopt and slowly but surely achieves any tasks set for themselves, and now even such a convention as elections has become a complete fiction - "no matter how many people will come to the polls, although the overwhelming minority will win the one who picks up more, even if it is 10% of the country's population, and even voting against is prohibited.
          After I was deprived of the opportunity to reject all the candidates whom they selected for us and allowed for the elections, I no longer go to these nativity scenes and from your point of view I became passive as a citizen. But this did not happen instantly. All the power of the people now either cannot accept or be silent in a rag in such a situation, it’s not necessary to talk about the responsibility of the people, and as the people get duped and connected with the inevitable, the government adopts more and more radical laws, slowly but surely leads the flock to where they need in such conditions, there’s no other hopes except for the good king. If the adoption of laws is the prerogative of the people, then all this disappears and responsibility begins to grow, because then it is not in the wrong hands. Very briefly, but I do not want to write a whole book.
          1. Shadowcat
            Shadowcat 23 February 2014 20: 24
            0
            Quote: Ivan.
            I have not seen a person who would react irresponsibly to what belongs to him

            mmmm ... Privatization tells you anything? And something the people did not go to beat the bourgeois.

            Quote: Ivan.
            After I was deprived of the opportunity to reject all the candidates whom they selected for us and allowed to run for elections

            And again, in 1990, everyone shouted "Give me!", As you can see, they did.
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 23 February 2014 21: 14
              0
              Quote: ShadowCat
              Does privatization tell you anything? And something the people did not go to beat the bourgeois.

              Again, you don’t want to understand, it was a question of an ideal arrangement, but you again cling to the past - maybe then there was an ideal state? Maybe people were not fooled (by many decades of suppression of independence and initiative) and understood what was happening? Maybe something depended on them in terms of legislation and the development strategy of the state?
              Quote: ShadowCat
              The ideal option is to go along with the state, supporting it,

              I pointed out that it is better not how you propose to go where they lead, but to take power over your life yourself, this is responsibility. Now we can only blame the shepherds for their "beautiful" life. I'm not going to expand the thought in detail, I said that this book is needed so that there are no such questions, if again it is not clear then we speak different languages ​​and there is no point in continuing.
              PS - Legislative power is higher than executive. Justice is above truth and wisdom is above justice. And here it is the same - the goal is not to make the herd good, but to grow into people. Man is responsibility, delegation of responsibility for his life to the authorities is the way to the herd and then only the shepherd decides and the herd hopes. To unite in society does not mean to part with the freedom to make decisions and submit, it means to strengthen each other by learning to cooperate.
  20. Samson911
    Samson911 23 February 2014 13: 40
    +1
    How I like the photos in the title of the article. Especially with Putin V.V. So it is necessary to show more often to Westerners and star-striped amero. Bastards (they rule for the third time) And not only in sports. For all questions x ... and throughout the face !!!!
  21. stayer
    stayer 23 February 2014 14: 29
    +3
    In fact, the studies are most likely biased and show only high-profile cases, i.e. tip of the iceberg. If you take into account that most of the information is distorted in your favor, then the US position is de facto in the region of 170-180.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 February 2014 15: 42
      0
      What do you want from a totalitarian empire?
  22. loginovich
    loginovich 23 February 2014 14: 40
    0
    Quote: Altona
    The Ministry of Truth is expanding its capabilities to the impossible ... The Empire of Goodness is preparing to inflict a final blow to mankind and parasitize on its corpse, and for this it is necessary to poison the victim’s brain so that it does not know that it is being eaten, eagerly, unabashed, tearing pieces splashing with blood .. .

    I hope each other will wash away the delirium of the "Empire of Good"
  23. shelva
    shelva 23 February 2014 16: 04
    0
    The main thing is that the bulwark of democracy has turned into a totalitarian state and their impudent claims to a leading position in terms of various "freedoms" irritate the majority.
  24. NDR-791
    NDR-791 23 February 2014 17: 14
    0
    I would like to shake a little more, to remind RESIDENTS of Sashek - the principle of taxation recorded in the notorious constitution: Taxes are paid by foreigners in America and Americans abroad. Remember !!!
  25. Arh
    Arh 23 February 2014 17: 15
    0
    United States territory of debtors, liars, sins !!!)))
  26. NDR-791
    NDR-791 23 February 2014 17: 30
    0
    [i] [i] Having fired more than 20 bullets in 100 minutes, the arrows damaged 17 transformers and disappeared in an unknown direction. [/ i]
    There are no losses from our side.
  27. delfinN
    delfinN 23 February 2014 19: 49
    +2
    Whoever has less freedom shouts louder about her
    1. Yura
      Yura 23 February 2014 20: 09
      +1
      Quote: delfinN
      Whoever has less freedom shouts louder about her

      good
  28. wax
    wax 24 February 2014 00: 09
    0
    In the world of capital domination, where we were dragged, having ruined the USSR and dismantling socialism, the meaning and content of the words freedom, democracy, justice, etc. determines capital itself. Freedom is the freedom to buy and sell everything for which there is demand. Democracy is the right of the people to work for capital. Justice is when everything in society belongs to capital.
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  30. sofka056
    sofka056 30 March 2016 13: 03
    0
    "Radio is not Freedom!"

    For the first time - the revelations of former employees of the most secret radio.
    What price do journalists pay to get into the Western media?
    And how do those who decide to leave pay off?
    Who are the real masters of freedom?
    And where does the American taxpayer money go?

    http://www.ntv.ru/peredacha/proisschestvie/m4001/o386578