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State Council Session: Family Matters

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The meeting of the State Council Presidium was held in the city of Cherepovets (Vologda Region) at the Palace of Metallurgists. Among federal officials, the meeting was attended by Chairman of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko, Deputy Chairman of the Russian Cabinet of Ministers Olga Golodets, Children's Rights Commissioner Pavel Astakhov, several heads of federal ministries (including the Ministry of Education and Science and the Ministry of Health), and regional leaders. The main actor at the presidium meeting was President Vladimir Putin.


It was originally planned that the Cherepovets meeting would be devoted to the implementation of the so-called “May” presidential decrees (decrees signed by Vladimir Putin immediately after taking office in May 2012 of the year). They decided not to retreat from the plans. And one of the important directions that the members of the Presidium of the State Council singled out is the direction of state policy in the family sphere, the sphere of motherhood and childhood. As it turned out already at the meeting itself, Vladimir Putin asked the regional leaders to work together to summarize the most pressing issues related to the support of the “ordinary Russian family” (Vladimir Putin’s expression).

It is difficult to call a breakthrough meeting in that direction, which concerned motherhood and childhood exactly. However, some of the issues that were discussed in its course need to be highlighted.

State Council Session: Family MattersTo begin with, it should be said that the Cherepovets meeting itself, on the basis of the main subject designated by it and the well-known situation in the personal life of the Russian leader, wore a certain touch of spice. On the blogs, we immediately got caustic remarks about the fact that a person who himself could not save his family can hardly speak to those who see the strength and potential to contribute to the development of other families, strengthen support for family values, motherhood and childhood, despite on the status of the head of state. Obviously, the president himself was well aware that he had his Achilles' heel in this regard ... However, in the end, if the subtext in the meeting was to be looked for, then the family vicissitudes in the life of Vladimir Putin (whether he wanted it or not) could be a kind of “ bad example "for others, which does not need to be repeated ... It turned out that the president himself and his wife made a mistake, without keeping the family, but again," as if "the reason for other families not to make such mistakes. How much such a message was ready to be accepted by all “ordinary” Russian families without exception is a separate question.

But these are all lyrics and conjectures ... And if without, let's say, humanitarian psychological implications, the meeting turned out to be quite bureaucratic - with the expression of aspirations and worries and with the talk that there are problems, but these problems are being successfully solved. One of the president’s phrases here was especially remembered:

The state ... should create conditions for raising the level and quality of the family and its social prestige.


You can not argue. Words are right, words are right. It is good that the problem means the president personally. But it is only somewhat strange that these words are heard at a meeting of the State Council. That is, it turns out that the state itself, as it were, gives the installation: I (the state) should increase the social prestige of the family. Well, great! - And who's stopping you? It seems that in modern Russian society, people who believe that the prestige of a family should be reduced by all means is a clear minority. And if the state and society are well aware that the loss of family prestige (well, society understands something for a long time, but how long has the state realized it? ..) is obvious, then an abstract conversation about specific problems here will lead to the desired result. A conversation at the State Council in Cherepovets, at least outwardly looked very abstract. Abstract conversations between statesmen about who should be who and how much should suffice before that, but the very quality of the family that the President mentioned was hardly increased from conversations ... If the state plans to raise the prestige of the family, then it’s time already take concrete steps, and not dwell on the level of discussion in a narrow circle of federal and regional officials.

To date, at least among young people, the opinion is often cultivated that the family is something obsolete. They say that, forgive, to make children - it is not at all necessary for a man and a woman to tie the knot. The notorious term “marriage is only a stamp in a passport” has become an axiom for those who want to deny themselves responsibility for everything throughout their lives. They say, why start a family if the family: crying children, wet diapers, life, scenes of jealousy, and then - divorce and division of property ... This cultivation is carried out with all the forces and means at the hands of certain people. Not the last role is played by television with the popular "entertaining". People pass the so-called "castings" to please the projects where they will "build" their love. You understand that they are building it ... And they “build” so that in several seasons of this TV program one “hero” has time to “build” love with the N + 1 “heroines” of the project; “Love” with mothers on the air, broken noses and torn hair. And young people like it ... Young people are already pretty "hooked" on such a "building of love."

As a result: a truly fantastic increase in the number of divorces in Russia. For a thousand people in the Russian Federation in 2012-2013, there were about 5 divorces (about 700 thousands of divorces per year!). If you believe the demographic yearbook of the UN, then Russia in the last 15 years has been ranked among the top three “leaders” in the number of divorces among all countries of the world. Over the years 15! If we assume that all these years the state has been busy solving other problems, then it really is time to not only take up the case and raise the prestige of the family and family values, but generally gnaw the ground at the state level to correct the dynamics.

It is clear that this is not a matter of one day, that it will be necessary to work, that you cannot cope without public assistance, but if you don’t start working in this direction today, then tomorrow people who are ready to accept the concepts of “family” and “values” cannot remain in one phrase ...

So, the next meeting is of course great, but I would like to hear from meetings, debates and ideas for moving to real business. Cases that may raise the prestige of the family, and the protection of motherhood and childhood rise to the proper level, and as a result of which family values ​​will be in decent positions. And about the "effectiveness" of the meetings at the time, a wonderful poem was written by Vladimir Mayakovsky - "Prosinated" is called.

True, chiding the excessive bureaucracy of state officials, we must not forget that in family matters, not everything is in the hands of the state. The prestige of a strong family begins within the family itself. The state should build a strong foundation here, well, then it’s necessary, as they say, not to hit the face in the dirt.
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  1. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 20 February 2014 07: 50
    +7
    Yes, they say everything well, who can argue, only everything is in the future, but it's time to talk about the present. Not "it is necessary to do this and that or it is necessary to do this and that", but "this and that has been done."
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 20 February 2014 13: 52
      +5
      Quote: vjatsergey
      Yes, everyone speaks well, who argues, only everything is in the future, and it is time to talk about the present.

      As for the talk, our government is just a pro. But just to talk. No one is responsible for anything. Let them start at least a little. I stumbled against the backdrop of the Eternal Flame ..., insulted not only the people, but also the state. And let a court for these glamor is filed by the state, and not just private individuals. One cloven-hoofed one suggested dividing Russia in the Urals, the state is suing her, she is not only the country, she wants to divide the state. More and more, the government reminds Gorbaty, a lot of words about than.
    2. Interface
      Interface 20 February 2014 22: 01
      0
      Eeeh, 2 of a child for a family-- and the problem of the extinction of the Russian people would be solved ...
      It has long been counted.
  2. ZU-23
    ZU-23 20 February 2014 07: 51
    +14
    Blah blah blah, the picture only pleases laughing . And so the children need to be educated and perplexed so that they do not have time to watch home2, but for this we need to set an example rather than smoke, watch TV shows and swear Putin and Russia, etc.
    1. pav-pon1972
      pav-pon1972 21 February 2014 00: 02
      0
      I agree, and you need to start first with yourself ... with your family, be an example, at least strive for this.
  3. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 20 February 2014 08: 09
    +19
    from the Don.
    Well, not those people in power, not those! To create the illusion of activity, that they can, work, no! And change this: the elite: it will not, because the problem of housing, kindergartens, decent work, promotion in the media fooling around, envy only worsens the situation!
    1. Hon
      Hon 20 February 2014 08: 52
      +15
      Astakhov has three sons: Anton (born in 1988, studied at Oxford College and the New York School of Economics, Artyom (born in 1993) and Arseny (born in 2009)). Both eldest sons of Astakhov work in the office of their father. According to published by New York Times journalist David Hersenhorn, the youngest son of a lawyer was born in a prestigious private hospital in Nice, the same one where they received birth from a Hollywood actress Angelina Jolie. The baptism of a two-month-old baby took place in the Orthodox Church of the Archangel Michael in Cannes.
      This is the same Astakhov who deprived the Ageev family of their parental rights when there was a company to identify dysfunctional families in Russia.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 20 February 2014 09: 04
        +1
        Oh, let’s say there, everyone has jambs who formed in the 90s and in the early 2000s, all their children were sent there, now we look where those born in the 70s and 80s will send their children.
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      5. creak
        creak 20 February 2014 11: 16
        +3
        And Astakhov himself polished his knowledge in the field of jurisprudence not elsewhere, but at the School of Law of the University of Pittsburgh (USA) .Therefore, he, like anyone else, is close to and understand the problems of Russian orphans ...
      6. slon53
        slon53 20 February 2014 11: 30
        +6
        Astakhov is a bureaucrat and a hypocrite, and by definition one cannot expect anything good from him. He has no idea (as, incidentally, the rest of the "powerful" of this world), what is childbirth in a village, a district clinic, to get a place in a kindergarten. Plus, there are also attempts to introduce issues of sex education into school and preschool programs.
        With such leaders in the Ministry of Education and advocates for the interests of children, we will go far.
      7. slon53
        slon53 20 February 2014 11: 30
        0
        Astakhov is a bureaucrat and a hypocrite, and by definition one cannot expect anything good from him. He has no idea (as, incidentally, the rest of the "powerful" of this world), what is childbirth in a village, a district clinic, to get a place in a kindergarten. Plus, there are also attempts to introduce issues of sex education into school and preschool programs.
        With such leaders in the Ministry of Education and advocates for the interests of children, we will go far.
      8. assam4
        assam4 20 February 2014 12: 32
        +2
        His children must adopt liberal values ​​and become gay.
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  4. generalissimo
    generalissimo 20 February 2014 08: 16
    +16
    The verbiage of these, if you may say "gentlemen," got enough! For the correct words of these "servants of the people" EMPTY! For Russian citizens EMPTY! We talked, reported, the decree was signed, the program was created! The program was funded! So what? Here's what:
    1. There were not many new millionaires-billionaires (this depends on how much they managed to tear out the diploma-program from the budget for this film) from among the households of senior leaders.
    2. The less influential ones limited themselves to acquiring overseas real estate or replenishing a bank account, again not in Russia.
    3. Well, about meetings and symposia (a symposium translated from other Greek-joint libation) devoted to this issue and talk like that is not clever.
    That's all the care of the Russian family! Who is who, and Valya-Paul. glasses in these matters a lot knows! (Paul. Glass-party pseudonym V. Matvienko)
  5. calocha
    calocha 20 February 2014 08: 24
    +8
    Why the Church will not take orphans into custody?! Orphanages?! Good children would turn out of orphans if the State would take them to military schools. Abortions should be banned! Rid the Internet of porn! Put things in order in Culture. Fight prostitution! Advertise Healthy image life! Create vocational schools!
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 20 February 2014 08: 40
      -4
      You ask good questions, but what did you and everyone personally do in this direction?
      1. the polar
        the polar 20 February 2014 08: 56
        +18
        Quote: zart_arn
        You ask good questions, but what did you and everyone personally do in this direction?

        And before you ask stupid questions it didn’t occur to you to think about why the state and the multi-million state apparatus exist?
        Why do citizens pay taxes, of which hundreds of billions go to the maintenance of the bureaucracy,
        which encourages TV around the clock to promote decomposition,
        which pretends to be struggling with drug trafficking, which purposefully destroys the system of education and upbringing of youth,
        which de facto recognized prostitution as an industry that hundreds of thousands of officials feed on,
        which did everything so that the youth had the opportunity to move away from the army, but it was free to purchase a portion of drugs near the house, which organized and supported unemployment, which made it almost impossible for a young family to dream of owning an apartment someday.
        So, if you were walking in the forest, it smells bad of you.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 20 February 2014 09: 26
          .
          The correct "rush" to power, but about the apartment - I do not agree. There would be a desire, as they say. Families with an ordinary salary of 40 thousand for two (or plus another child) take a 15-year loan and normally pay it off in 5-7 years. Of course, the parents will help some part, but in general, a new apartment now is far from a pipe dream, albeit very expensive
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          2. siberalt
            siberalt 20 February 2014 10: 39
            +7
            Lack of housing, implantation of a consumer lifestyle, PR so-called. "civil" marriages, outweighs the concept of a family in its traditional sense. As the system is, so is the family.

            http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/185/mspw447.jpg
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 20 February 2014 10: 54
              -7
              Who has no housing? Something homeless people on the streets are not found in such numbers that people complain about the lack of an apartment
              1. Bersaglieri
                Bersaglieri 21 February 2014 01: 57
                +1
                Thanks to the legacy of the USSR and the reduction in population, yes ...
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          3. Dangerous
            Dangerous 20 February 2014 10: 53
            -1
            Have the homeless people flogged me? belay
            1. wanderer_032
              wanderer_032 20 February 2014 20: 43
              +4
              Quote: Dangerous
              Have the homeless people flogged me? belay


              Perhaps this is because you reason as a person who does not know the life of most Russian citizens who live from pay to pay and barely make ends meet. Many people don’t get 40 thousand rubles a month for 2, but even 20 not always, especially in rural areas.
              What kind of tries ... a mortgage are we talking about?
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          5. Bersaglieri
            Bersaglieri 21 February 2014 01: 55
            +1
            With an apartment cost of 5-6 million rubles, and 12% per annum on a mortgage, and an initial contribution of 30%, the monthly payment on the 15-year plan will be .... 55000 rubles / month. To service the desired loan, family income must be at least 120.000-130.000 rubles / month
            What are 40000 per family? Or is it about a house in a village in the Non-Black Earth Region? ...
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        3. zart_arn
          zart_arn 20 February 2014 10: 07
          +2
          So, if you were walking in the forest, it smells bad of you.
          Well thanks, caressed. Although the demagogue himself is still one. It is difficult to suspect me of sympathy for the schools of power - you can follow the history of comments. I’m talking about something else, about so crucified HUMAN VALUES here. As you like, you can scold them, but without them, or rather, without their manifestation by EVERYONE, your rhetoric is not worth a damn, because humanism and kindness NEVER appear in an atmosphere of anger, fear and punitive measures. The church is first of all not the apparatus of priests officials, but parishioners. Are you a parishioner? Do you carry the rational, good, eternal to the people? That's it.
          And sending and answering "idiotic questions" in a similar manner is easier than lightweight.
          1. the polar
            the polar 20 February 2014 11: 13
            +1
            Quote: zart_arn
            So, if you were walking in the forest, it smells bad of you.
            Well thanks, caressed. Although the demagogue himself is still one. It is difficult to suspect me of sympathy for the schools of power - you can follow the history of comments. I’m talking about something else, about so crucified HUMAN VALUES here. As you like, you can scold them, but without them, or rather, without their manifestation by EVERYONE, your rhetoric is not worth a damn, because humanism and kindness NEVER appear in an atmosphere of anger, fear and punitive measures. The church is first of all not the apparatus of priests officials, but parishioners. Are you a parishioner? Do you carry the rational, good, eternal to the people? That's it.
            And sending and answering "idiotic questions" in a similar manner is easier than lightweight.

            Okay, I'm sorry, I got excited. But again, you start to "walk the forest", why did you decide that the church is a cure for social devastation and decay? The Church is precisely the apparatus of priests-officials who defend only their own interests and powers, and parishioners are just the same citizens as everyone else, only weaker in spirit, who have lost faith in power and their strength, and rely only on the "holy spirit."
            1. zart_arn
              zart_arn 20 February 2014 14: 09
              +2
              The demon speaks in you, you misinterpret the scripture. "Weak in spirit" does not mean "faint-hearted nerds" at all. Those "weak in spirit" who feel the need for closeness to God, felt in themselves a lack of the presence of the spirit of the saint, as a connecting thread with God. Hence the words: "Blessed are the weak in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of God." Without God, there is no truth, humanism, love, kindness. Let's put it simply, these concepts are God. Atheists often manipulate the concept of "church" not as a union of brothers in faith, but as a bureaucratic apparatus.
              1. generalissimo
                generalissimo 20 February 2014 14: 32
                -1
                Do not mix god here! God and religion, completely unrelated concepts! All that serves religion and scripture, including, are methods of psychological influence on people, aimed at subordinating the human will to control the actions of a huge mass of people! This is the same as communist ideology, and scripture is all the same as the charter of the CPSU.
                GOD is either in man! Or it is not! And if he is not in someone, then at least break your forehead on the church floor! It is not for nothing that there is an expression: "You will not sin, you will not repent!"
                As regards our guardians of Russia and the Russian family, whether it’s Astakhov or Valya-pol. Glass, the third part of folk wisdom applies to them, which I want to give below:
                “There are people in whom God lives. There are people in whom the devil lives.
                And there are people that live only worms."
    2. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 20 February 2014 09: 07
      +6
      Quote: calocha
      Why the Church will not take care of orphans?! Orphanages ?!

      But really - why?
      And not part, but all.
      Since the 90s, the church has been "wringing" from the state, by the way successfully, huge pieces of property that used to be repeat , years ... ago, belonged to her. Following this, it is necessary, it turns out, to transfer their former property to private individuals: houses, estates, plots, factories (with this it’s tight laughing ). And what will come out? Rave. But the church passes, "wring out".

      Last, in St. Petersburg, they want to "return" to themselves, the current premises of the Museum of the Arctic-Antarctic.
      "The Russian Orthodox Church intends to return the building of the Museum of the Arctic and Antarctic on Marata Street, as well as about a dozen other buildings in the center of St. Petersburg, according to the law on church restitution, which was recently adopted in St. Petersburg," Delovoy Petersburg writes about this.That was back in 2012. Now it’s like this: "The Federal Property Management Agency has decided to expedite the relocation of the Museum of the Arctic and Antarctic from the building of the former St. Nicholas Church of the Same Faith on Marata Avenue. And suggested the museum management to move the exposition to the building of the Arctic Institute on Bering Street."
      Or in Krondstat repeat
      What are we going to bring up children for? The museum is 77 years old. There will be a move - when it opens again, where? How much will they lose / ruin? Is it necessary?

      Could it be better for the church to attend to orphans and orphanages?
      1. Penzuck
        Penzuck 20 February 2014 09: 49
        +3
        Well here again! What a trend it is to blame the Church. The church is, first of all, you and I. The task of the ministers of the Church, the clergy to lead the flock as an example, i.e. he gave alms, took orphans into the family (fathers must have a family), visited people in prison, etc. And besides, the preservation of Church relics and spiritual values. If churches where people have been praying for ages should be clubs (dancing on bones), stables, bazaars, etc. then this is your personal opinion. In your opinion then the cemetery is not holy. This is an insult to the feelings of any believer. And then the Russian Orthodox Church is not omnipotent, and if we don’t have enough taxes for the municipalities, what can we say about the Russian Orthodox Church, who is paying tithing now? The Russian Orthodox Church cannot return and CONTAIN all temples, even those that are! Those. we give to the Church - the Church gives to orphans. But there are members of the Church — you and I. In addition to tithing, WE SHOULD BELIEVE alms ourselves and do good. Example: in Samara, all orphans were taken home!
        PS: I realize that, not all who participated in adoptions were believers.
        1. generalissimo
          generalissimo 20 February 2014 16: 34
          +1
          No one scolds the church! This is everyone's business! I simply expressed my attitude towards religion as such! And also to God! In my opinion, religion and God are different! Take at least our president, and the entire ruling elite, and what we see: former party, Komsomol leaders (at least Komsomol organizers, party organizers of faculties, secretaries of district committees and above), as well as fighters of the invisible front ABVGDeitsy (KeGeBe), at one time a believer branded, worked out, did not give a move, exiled, imprisoned and so on! What now? All as one with thick candles, baptized in churches, bows beat! What BELIEVED? Hardly! It is unlikely that God lives in them! And they do not pull on the servants of the Devil! Worms live in them, as Zhirik would say: "UNIFORMALLY!"
          1. assam4
            assam4 20 February 2014 21: 01
            0
            I ceased to respect the Russian Orthodox Church after they canonized Tsar Nikolashka.
    3. leon-iv
      leon-iv 20 February 2014 11: 00
      +1
      Why the Church will not take care of orphans?

      Takes and deals. My wife worked in a similar organization until the second decree.
      The state took them to military schools

      They have priority on admission. So it is in IEDs and Nakhimovskoye. Read their rules.
      Abortion needs to be banned!

      undoubtedly !!!
      ! Rid the Internet from porn!

      Che wife burned?
      Fight prostitution!

      Why am I for its legalization. I would have opened a beautiful brothel.
      Promote a Healthy Lifestyle!

      He goes, so many sites are being built. And taking the child to the sections I see that very many are involved in sports now.
    4. ele1285
      ele1285 20 February 2014 13: 39
      +1
      Quote: calocha
      Why the Church will not take care of orphans?! Orphanages?

      . Fight prostitution!

      Here is the first question I am also interested in hearing the answer.
      It is possible to fight prostitution, it is impossible to defeat. In one form or another, it will exist, it is a state of mind.
  6. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 20 February 2014 08: 43
    +12
    Putin is gradually dumping all social programs into regions. And Putin is also aggressively reformatting the profitable articles of these regions in favor of the center. It goes without saying that the debts of the regions from such bookkeeping began to increase rapidly. Fatty and fat Moscow grunting from constant overeating, the Americans, of course, can’t raise a revolution, but here are the regions .... Yes, apparently, these regions will not wait for the amers, they themselves will start.
  7. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 20 February 2014 09: 09
    +3
    Such people should not outline the problem and not talk about it, but act! By their actions, to make people want to build families, and for this:
    1 Arrange a rigid propaganda, families, in all media to show that the family is good, and not vice versa (for those who have a herd feeling, obey the zomboyaschik, and do not have their own opinions)
    2 Provide young families (benefits, financing), as well as provide decrees, because after childbirth, mainly one family member works, and there are many more problems that I have not described
    What is described above, the punishment for divorces, will lead to the fact that families will live in marriage, but separately, to cancel abortions, to appear more street children, you need to pursue a subtle policy and the main thing is not to do what you want the best, but it turned out as always .
    PS The main guarantor of the family is the state, and in our country, the state can only discuss what needs to be done, but so far no action has been seen!
    1. Penzuck
      Penzuck 20 February 2014 09: 59
      +1
      Or as already happens - not to enter into a civil marriage in the registry office, but to cohabit with a girlfriend on the same living space.
      As we are being promoted by Western and Russian films, for example, "Boyfriend from the Future" (watched to meet the enemy). First we slept, then we met our parents, then we got married. Heh.
      1. ReifA
        ReifA 21 February 2014 12: 28
        0
        There is still such a nuance of marriage .. If the wife decided to divorce, and for any reason for whatever reason - you will not see your child, but you will steadily pay your wife and Vasya. This alignment is not popular among those who are thinking about the future. And when the cult of successful single mothers is propagandized everywhere, no one is safe from this. As a result, bezotovschina often produces bezotovschina.
    2. the polar
      the polar 20 February 2014 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: Prapor Afonya

      PS The main guarantor of the family is the state, and in our country, the state can only discuss what needs to be done, but so far no action has been seen!

      And where did you read about such "state guarantees"? The state now guarantees you only the inviolability of private property, especially if you have a lot of it. And freedom to survive as you can
  8. mountain
    mountain 20 February 2014 09: 17
    +1
    At one time, production had a tremendous influence on the family, and I remember how the parents were worried when they heard from the teacher that he would have to inform the company that their child was behaving badly or the spouse reported to her husband's workplace that he was drinking. And people were afraid of the public, censure. Today, each person stays with himself and can only be influenced by money. What a child hears from his parents, a small salary, bad government and the result is obvious. Reading the comments, amazed at the reviews, many are ready to put "raferty" into their bed and blame everything, BB. That's just funny. It’s not a good idea to start with yourself and your environment, and only then .... and be indignant.
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 20 February 2014 09: 43
      +2
      Quote: mountain
      From myself I don’t want to start my environment, and then ....


      Dear, from "myself", in the SOCIETY, in society - will not work. I will not disclose the topic for a long time.

      Or, onlylike Sterligov - away from the city, "civilization", his home, his economy, his education and upbringing.

      What are we all in to leave?
      Or all the same
      Quote: Polar
      Why does the state and the state multi-million dollar apparatus exist?
      And further on his comment.
      1. mountain
        mountain 20 February 2014 10: 00
        0
        No, like Lykova.
        And I don’t want to lose time for you, Z.A.
    2. My address
      My address 20 February 2014 09: 44
      +5
      I have only forty years of production experience, I started with students. Formerly a non-sick leader, he blamed himself first for failing the team, and not in a whisper. I believe that any normal and decent has the right, and is obliged to criticize and Putin. But for the cause. And such normal in the country and on the site most.
      Otherwise, it resembles the response system: "I am not smart myself."

      The president was chosen by the country / people, so he is the servant of the people, even those who did not vote for him.
      1. Vitlek
        Vitlek 20 February 2014 10: 14
        +2
        The president was chosen by the country / people, which means he is a servant of the people, even those who did not vote for him. - What does the country choose? , 4 consecutive terms ?, and for 6 years ?, and the constitution is as if not for him ?, and if something is wrong in it (the constitution), it’s not scary, we will quickly change it. and we’ll agree with D. A., I’ll sit for 3-4 terms, then you’re 1, then again I.
      2. the polar
        the polar 20 February 2014 11: 26
        +1
        Quote: My address


        The president was chosen by the country / people, so he is the servant of the people, even those who did not vote for him.

        They themselves have long been choosing. And so the people in their servants walk.
  9. intsurfer
    intsurfer 20 February 2014 09: 43
    +3
    and with the other hand, the state reduces healthcare costs by 400 billion rubles ...

    www.nacmedpalata.ru/files/userfiles/poyasnzap.pdf
  10. ikken
    ikken 20 February 2014 10: 08
    +9
    First of all, it is necessary to raise the institution of paternity in the country, which has long been destroyed. In my generation (80s), almost half of my acquaintances had either single-parent families or alcoholic fathers who, in an alcohol intoxication, “gently” “communicated” with their families. And where does a kid who grew up in such a family get the correct guidelines for how to be the head of the family? The result is a huge divorce rate in my generation. Because they do not know how to resolve issues, disagreements within the family, how to raise children - after all, fathers did not teach.

    And what comes from screens (both TV and computer) - "vanilla snot", if there are no feelings - you have to part, why live with the unloved, someone better is waiting around the corner ...

    And nowhere they say, they don't show, they don't teach what it means to be a man. That this does not mean coming home in the evening and sitting down at the TV with beer / vodka, driving home, whipping for "deuces", drinking even more on Friday and Saturday, and shouting "I am the breadwinner of the family !!!! (hit in the chest / on the table / in the face) "

    A man is the foundation of the family. If the foundation does not hold the building, how will it stand? Where are the right family models? As they began to show from this drunk Gosha (aka Zhora, aka Goga) that one had to run away from problems into a glass, so this stretches.

    And you, gentlemen reading, at least zaminusuyte, but tell me, you give your sons the right example - how to love and respect your wife every day, in words and deeds, how to love and bring up your children, how to overcome turmoil and hardship with the whole family? Putin will not do this for us.
    1. ReifA
      ReifA 21 February 2014 12: 33
      +1
      And if your wife suddenly ceases to respect you, because the taxi driver's petit, for example, has sweeter speech and thicker shorts? Say goodbye to your salary and your children, your wife's caretaker will make sure that you never see them, at best, once a week, for 2 hours, under the supervision of a guardian or "mother". What will you bring up in such a very common scenario? And the songs that today's mothers grew up to? American fight, will I leave with you?
  11. predator.3
    predator.3 20 February 2014 10: 20
    +1
    A common thing, gathered, put up i.e. conversations talked and dispersed ... to the regions, and the people, as it warms up: gives birth, lives, dies, and again gives birth! spring will come in a week, then summer, etc.

    then the family ups and downs in the life of Vladimir Putin (whether he wanted it or not) could be a kind of "bad example" for others, which does not need to be repeated ... It turned out that the president himself and his wife made a mistake, not keeping the family, but this is again -so “as if” an occasion for other families not to make such mistakes.


    Well, human GDP is also not alien, it's all from a series, gray hair in a beard ...
  12. demel2
    demel2 20 February 2014 11: 00
    +2
    We chose the wrong topics for the meeting. In order for the institution of the family to develop and strengthen, we must first make affordable housing, especially for young people, sane housing prices, decent wages, healthcare, education, then the state itself would be surprised that there’s nothing to discuss .And so one chatter and even worse attitude to those who are in power, who have been sitting up.
  13. siberalt
    siberalt 20 February 2014 11: 14
    +6
    Family values ​​are destroyed by the same guards. At the main of them, the family lives in France. On TV, fat elderly Madame in pink hats are proud of the number of husbands, and filmmakers the number of wives and divorces. If the films are about ordinary families, then they must live in their own multi-storey building with numerous servants. It’s successful to get married - so that you don’t work anywhere, but disappear at parties. Marry Chaliapin as a boiled skimmer to grandmother. You can give birth as Galkin or Kirkorov. And what can some state council decide? If the Duma men completely replaced their wives with young ones. Advertising to restore hymen, etc. abomination. There is an actual total planting of the liberoid cult of debauchery.

    And it is already sold on the Internet.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/803/voco223.jpg
    1. ReifA
      ReifA 21 February 2014 12: 38
      +1
      The standard film is the husband, a silly henpecked deer. The wife is smart, often accepting the courtship of a richer deer. What will the children take away from this? And what about today's women? As an example - well nafig my carpenter Kolya, my boss smiles at me in the morning, I will build happiness with him, well, with my children from Kolya. Not the father who "gave birth, but the one who raised". And let Kolya pay alimony to me and his boss, but not to interfere with our family happiness with the new dad of Kolya's children. Haven't heard stories like this? And here he is, the rabbit.
  14. Leopold
    Leopold 20 February 2014 11: 21
    0
    It is necessary that each member of the family has the opportunity for self-realization within the family and in society. People have forgotten how to do this, institutions learning how to do it - units throughout the country.
    It is necessary to teach mothers and fathers how not to interfere with the development of a child. Prepare children for real life, and not for some fantastic abstraction. To give teenagers the opportunity to work in great projects, to move mountains, otherwise they will move anything but their brains. Adults need to be taught how to put everything together and build, build, build.
    Present education is divorced from practice, from real life. First-graders are taught elementary arithmetic for a whole year within the first ten - any brains will boil from this. The student, upon entering the university, is directly told that he needs to forget everything that he taught before. He, but a graduate or even earlier, getting a job, is again told that you need to "forget everything that you have been taught." 15 years of study in the pipe? Is this the way it should be?
  15. RomanN
    RomanN 20 February 2014 14: 53
    0
    I agree with ikken one hundred percent! To what everyone has said in support of the family, I add, housing should be your own, and not removable, like most young families, but rather individual, that is. own home on their own land. Personal farming is tied to the family and the country stronger than any decisions of the party and rulers.
  16. Luzhichanin
    Luzhichanin 20 February 2014 16: 42
    0
    Quote: Volodin Alexey
    and do not hit your face in the mud yourself.
    I remember there is a tale: "judge by deeds, not by conversations," so that the hope is only in ourselves.
  17. parus2nik
    parus2nik 20 February 2014 19: 12
    0
    Before the meeting of the State Council, the snow was probably painted with white paint, trees were planted .. Until corruption blooms in the country, when the adopted and existing laws are not for everyone .. This whole talking room is useless ...
  18. alone
    alone 20 February 2014 21: 11
    +2
    For 25 years, the situation has not changed. A crowd of officials with smart and understanding views. The main speaker stands at the rostrum, the walls shake from his voice. He speaks and speaks, and the others nod. And then they diverge. This has been going on for 25 years.
  19. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 20 February 2014 21: 28
    0
    I read the article and comments and realized that for a long time we will not live normally.
    A normal family can be created only in acceptable conditions for life in the country (when a salary is paid on time for work, which you can feed your family for at least a month without getting into debt).
    Look what is happening in the recent past, laws have been passed that will further complicate the lives of ordinary people.
    People see nothing good from the authorities and no longer hope for the best. As long as the government representatives are not nightingales, many people don’t believe them anymore, thanks to the 90s they’ve already been taught.
    The project of the all-Russian mortgage program failed, many new buildings are half empty; most people do not have the means to buy housing at such prices.
    The income level of most citizens is low and they do not give birth to children because they understand that they can’t even provide them with necessary things (I recall that laws have been passed that untie the bureaucrats' hands from social services to remove children from such families, is there any sense in giving birth to them at all? ) After all, prices for clothes, products, housing and communal services are only growing, and there is no salary. Also, now you have to pay considerable money for education and medical care for children, but where to get them?
    Someone may justly note that the "state" guarantees everything for us, but aren't teachers in our schools like beggars running around and collecting money for this and that, but about medicine with compulsory medical insurance, I can say for sure that with the compulsory medical insurance policy you can successfully go to an institution like a toilet. You will have to pay a lot of money for normal treatment.
    Many peasants simply run away from families because they cannot withstand such financial stresses from which family scandals and squabbles arise on this basis.
    Often they are "extinguished" from the payment of alimony and "servants of the sovereign" who knock them out, because if they pay them, they will not live until the next payment, because after leaving the family they usually live in rented apartments, or even where they have to ...
    So those who normally push noodles about everything, let her choke on her, and the people are fed up with it.
  20. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 00: 41
    0
    there are too many spoofings of course, but in politics it is beyond measure
    and before that I do not respect this pedrosnyu ...