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Putin: playing with shifted gates is always useful for one of the teams.

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“It’s a pity that the judges didn’t notice it in time,” said Russian President Vladimir Putin, answering a question about the shifted goal at a hockey match between Russia and the United States.


Putin spoke about this hockey meeting after a meeting of the State Council Presidium in Cherepovets, Vologda Oblast, ITAR-TASS reported. The meeting discussed family policy in Russia.

In the Russia-USA hockey confrontation, the third goal scored by the Russians was not counted due to a goal shift. He didn’t reveal the strongest in 2: 2 and an extra 5-minute period. The fate of the match was decided in the shootout series, where the American athletes were more accurate.

Russian 18 hockey players in February will meet with the national team of Norway. The start of the fight in 16 hours 30 minutes Moscow time. The TV channel "Russia 1" and the site Vesti.Ru will broadcast this match.

Journalists asked Putin, and does not mean whether his departure from Sochi, that he had lost interest in the Olympics.

“Of course not,” said the president of Russia. “My main task was to implement this project. And now this project has been implemented. I had the task of organizing a holiday for our people. I think this is also generally possible. This holiday situation it captures, absorbs, but needs to work. "

Vladimir Putin hopes, like most Russians, to continue to watch the Olympics on TV.

Meanwhile, the victory of bobsled players Alexander Zubkov and Alexei Voevoda in the competition of twos led the Russian Olympic team to second place in the team medal standings of the Sochi Games.

Russians have 17 medals. Of these, 5 gold, 7 silver and 5 bronze medals. In first place are Olympians from Germany - 7 gold medals, 3 silver awards and 2 bronze. The third place in the unofficial team event is Holland. The athletes from the Netherlands 5 gold and silver medals, in addition, they 7 times climbed to the third step of the podium at the awards ceremony, which is held daily in Sochi at 20 hours 14 minutes Moscow time.
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  1. Dangerous
    Dangerous 18 February 2014 07: 58
    +5
    Turn off the water and lights in the rooms of these referees. And block the room key! Let them think that they did wrong
    1. Denis
      Denis 18 February 2014 08: 04
      +38
      Quote: Dangerous
      Turn off the water and lights in the rooms of these referees. And block the room key! Let them think that they did wrong
      1. Magadan
        Magadan 18 February 2014 08: 38
        +64
        Question: Why Americans do not know how to play football?

        Answer: Because the gates are too heavy and cannot be moved
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 18 February 2014 08: 53
          +8
          Quote: Magadan
          the gates are too heavy and cannot be moved

          Yes, they were not lucky with football! Personally, I suggest playing the same methods with them! Immediately move a little bit of the gate and mow under the innocent? Yes, the judge must also be with Russian citizenship!
          And what would these star-striped every five minutes, the red light behind the gate turn on for the full effect!
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 18 February 2014 08: 20
      +7
      Quote: Dangerous
      And block the room key!
      So they, dogs, break doors ...
      1. dddym
        dddym 18 February 2014 08: 54
        +4
        Nah, they’ll move the room :)
    3. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 18 February 2014 09: 06
      +1
      The judges have no nationality? As well as children, a wife and a mother. Bullshit is our match.
      1. sinukvl
        sinukvl 18 February 2014 09: 48
        +6
        Since the judges have no nationality, let all our judges judge all the matches of our team!
        1. AVV
          AVV 18 February 2014 20: 05
          -1
          Quote: sinukvl
          Since the judges have no nationality, let all our judges judge all the matches of our team!

          And the gates are tightly concreted, like in football, or else they’re cunning. And the Yankees here are shifting everything for themselves, like they are trying to push everything in the world !!! But Iran can’t push it, it’s too tough! They will fly like corks out of champagne, like out Afghanistan !!!
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 18 February 2014 20: 07
            -1
            it’s strange that for today's match they didn’t raise a panic. (according to Ovechkin)
      2. avg
        avg 18 February 2014 10: 17
        +3
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        The judges have no nationality? As well as children, a wife and a mother. Bullshit is our match.

        All right, they have nothing, not even a conscience. On all sides, one pockets. request
        1. SHOCK.
          SHOCK. 18 February 2014 11: 22
          +5
          Moreover, our officials, who were obliged to scream out loud that our team was condemned, as if they had taken water in their mouths. But hockey is, fortunately, not football. In hockey, it is not only allowed, but also in every way encouraged to view controversial issues. So what prevented the American referee, and the match commissioners, from seeing how and under what circumstances the goal was moved? After all, somehow one hardly believes that they were shifted by chance. In any case, when the puck flew into them, the goalkeeper instantly “received his sight” and began to appeal to his fellow countryman, who, by a strange coincidence, turned out to be the main referee of the match.


          Читать полностью: http://www.km.ru/sport/2014/02/17/olimpiiskie-igry-v-sochi-2014/732478-olimpiada
          2014-pozor-vankuvera-zabyt


          The judge did not give a damn, he knew what was going on. But the strange behavior of “our” officials from sports can only be surprised. Where are they looking? Or do they also give a damn about everything except their own pocket?

          There have been and will be many dirty episodes in the history of world sports, and, unfortunately, one of such episodes took place in the Russia-USA match. Two Olympic principles were violated at once - fair play and fair refereeing. But these principles are an empty phrase for Americans who value the result, but they didn’t care about the rules.

          Читать полностью: http://www.km.ru/sport/2014/02/17/olimpiiskie-igry-v-sochi-2014/732478-olimpiada
          2014-pozor-vankuvera-zabyt


          Americans in their repertoire. Lack of principle not only in politics, but also in sports. We can only hope that "God is not Eroshka, he sees a little."
          1. hrych
            hrych 18 February 2014 17: 54
            +2
            I absolutely agree with you, at one time, who remembers, because of the length and bending of the club, the great Soviet hockey players were removed at the most decisive moment, the opponent captain drove, the overseas coach poked his finger and mouth-buzzed, and then a clear goal is not counted, Zinetulla fucking silent, superstars don't wave their hands. A condom sits like a hamster mouse, then let's make a blizzard, in general the trainer is a team, the team is not berserkers, but liquid snot, and the supreme would learn from his fosterling, which the judge judged into the microphone at a football match, by the way for no reason.
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 18 February 2014 18: 07
              +1
              Zinetullah fucking is silent, superstars don’t wave their hands. The cone sits like a hamster mouse, then let's make a blizzard, in general the trainer

              you're really like an old grunt
              1. hrych
                hrych 18 February 2014 20: 57
                +2
                Just, Colleague, in front of the whole people, in the presence of the supreme, yes at our place, they wipe their feet, about the so-called fighting squad, then this is not a squad, but a bunch of toothless metrosexuals.
                1. alone
                  alone 18 February 2014 21: 23
                  0
                  And what do you propose to strike from the Tornado on the American delegation only because the arbiter decided to play along?
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 18 February 2014 21: 55
                    +2
                    Just as normal, not zinatullidastas defend their interests.

                    http://www.pravda.ru/test/world/16-02-2002/805629-0/

                    And their prez, for allies, spoke out differently than our nedotamka. And understand that in ancient times the Olympic Games were not entertaining, but showed how ready the tribe was physically, mentally, etc. for the subject of a future war. So now it’s politics and it’s necessary to fight for victory behind the curtains, both secretly and clearly, that everyone except our friends is doing it. But when they wipe their feet like that, at least it was necessary to raise a scandal on the spot and force them to make a fair decision, remove the judge on the spot, and a specially trained person like Artyukhin should break the judge’s jaw, there should be a compromise on representatives of the hockey federation, for coercion, etc. and so forth. I repeat, everyone has been doing this for a long time, but not us. The entire Norwegian ski and biathlon team is registered as an asthmatic person with disabilities and has every right to burst stimulating breathing drugs, and our Old Ones, for podiums at pre-Olympic starts, are cut off for signs of doping, compared to eating asthmatics is simply ridiculous. And this is the most important thing.
    4. alex-s
      alex-s 18 February 2014 09: 55
      +1
      Deny these judges entry into the Russian Federation.
      1. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 18 February 2014 17: 18
        +1
        Quote: alex-s
        Deny these judges entry into the Russian Federation.

        Nooo ban travel from Russia.
    5. Nayhas
      Nayhas 18 February 2014 12: 10
      0
      Quote: Dangerous
      Turn off the water and lights in the rooms of these referees. And block the room key! Let them think that they did wrong

      and then what, bring to the ice and shoot?
      1. niki233
        niki233 18 February 2014 19: 13
        0
        better to give fans one period laughing
  2. Hleb
    Hleb 18 February 2014 07: 58
    +10
    President of the International Hockey Federation Rene Fasel said that the IIHF will change the rule by which the goal of Russian Fedor Tyutin against the US team at the 2014 Olympics in Sochi was canceled.
    Then, recall, the North American referees canceled the goal due to the fact that a few seconds before the goal the goal of the Americans was slightly shifted. According to Fazel, the IIHF will bring this paragraph of the rules in line with the interpretation of the NHL, which gives the arbiter the right to count such goals. If the Olympic tournament was held according to the rules of the NHL, Tyutin's puck would have counted.
    "We will change this rule. Not to score a goal because of two centimeters? This is nonsense. But this is the existing rule, nothing can be done. Therefore, I think that this rule should be changed and judged as judged in the NHL. So we will do"
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 18 February 2014 09: 30
      +7
      Quote: Gleb
      "We will change this rule. Not to score a goal because of two centimeters? This is nonsense. But this is the existing rule, nothing can be done. Therefore, I think that this rule should be changed and judged as judged in the NHL. So we will do"
      Where were you before? am
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 18 February 2014 09: 54
        +5
        Quote: Horst78
        Where were you before?


        Where were you before?

        I can answer in rhyme!
        Yes, I'm afraid to be banned?
        I will give a hint
        Do you understand me?
        In that nook
        Where we all come from!

        I could not boil for about forty minutes after this match! Well, who would have thought that the Americans would play so dishonestly? Also, the judge of the Shtatovsky was left out of nobility or maybe all the same because of his stupidity?
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 18 February 2014 10: 29
          +3
          hi Thank you, I understand.
          Quote: Arberes
          judge of the state out of nobility left
          there the Olympic Committee rules, 3,1415 ... s
      2. Hleb
        Hleb 18 February 2014 13: 26
        0
        there is still a bit of beauty:

        NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman commented on the incident with an unscored goal by Fedor Tyutin against the Americans.

        - In vain in Russia they are so worried about this goal. There nothing depended on the arbiter from the USA. The decision was made by the judge - a video goal who watched the replay. We will insist on the appointment of NHL referees for the matches of the US and Canada. Because the rules in the NHL and the IIHF are slightly different, ”said the head.
    2. alex-s
      alex-s 18 February 2014 09: 53
      +3
      Very timely! After the fire and x .. - hose! negative
  3. Alex66
    Alex66 18 February 2014 08: 00
    +17
    Before the decisive match, you need to put the gates on the alarm.
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 18 February 2014 09: 02
      +4
      Quote: Alex66
      Before the decisive match, you need to put the gates on the alarm.

      Just concreting is enough
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 18 February 2014 09: 18
        +8
        Quote: Prometey
        Just concreting is enough

        Not humanely, the goalkeeper will break on the rack until he understands.
        1. PValery53
          PValery53 18 February 2014 10: 54
          0
          To him, the goalkeeper, they made movable gates for his own safety, but he understood how it all was! ..
  4. SibRUS
    SibRUS 18 February 2014 08: 00
    +8
    Putin: playing with shifted gates is always useful for one of the teams.

    "It is a pity that the judges did not notice this in time"

    The policy of double standards does not allow the West to notice a log in its eye!
  5. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 18 February 2014 08: 04
    +12
    These USAshniks are in all odds, then their gates are moved in advance, then they give their athlete a gold medal (the second in this sport) wassat
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 18 February 2014 10: 55
      0
      From their painful desire for leadership, the roof goes.
  6. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 18 February 2014 08: 04
    +17
    The Americans are shifting the gates not only in sports, this is their true essence, in any business, at all costs. It is a pity that so many of us have already adopted this very ideology.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 18 February 2014 09: 31
      +3
      Quote: vladsolo56
      The Americans are shifting the gates not only in sports, this is their true essence, in any business, at all costs.
      Yes, and figs with them, but we will go to PARADISE laughing
      1. PValery53
        PValery53 18 February 2014 10: 57
        +1
        First you need the SGA (conn. Sinful pieces) to hell send ...
        1. Luga
          Luga 18 February 2014 15: 15
          -1
          Quote: PValery53
          First you need the SGA (conn. Sinful pieces) to hell send ...

          In Serbian USA - GARDEN, in the sense of the united American powers. wink
          In my opinion, very eloquent ...
      2. kare
        kare 18 February 2014 12: 19
        +2
        Yes, and they would have been slamming the hell out of sand in hell their whole lives
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 18 February 2014 12: 22
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      The Americans are shifting the gates not only in sports, this is their true essence, in any business, at all costs. It is a pity that so many of us have already adopted this very ideology.

      Do you think that only American goalkeepers move the goal during a match? Those. what happened at the USA-Russia match is the first precedent in the world?
  7. Lantau
    Lantau 18 February 2014 08: 04
    +8
    American athletes.

    In my opinion, it is said too much. Real athletes intentionally do not move the gate !!!
    1. mamba
      mamba 18 February 2014 08: 54
      +8
      Quote: Lantau
      Real athletes intentionally do not move the gate !!!

      And also they do not measure the curvature of the club’s hook after an conceded goal into their own net and do not cripple the opponent’s players.
      1. PValery53
        PValery53 18 February 2014 10: 58
        0
        After each goal scored by amers, it is necessary to measure the curvature of the convolutions in their heads ...
    2. avg
      avg 18 February 2014 10: 27
      0
      American athletes.

      Quote: Lantau
      In my opinion, it is said too much. Real athletes intentionally do not move the gate !!!

      Please be careful! The text says - American athletes.
      Exercise caution and do not violate the instructions for conducting competitions with participation "American athletes".
    3. kotvov
      kotvov 18 February 2014 10: 42
      +1
      but what about the intentional infliction of injury? that was in 1972. by the way what Canadians admitted, though years later. SO WHAT IS NOT NECESSARY ABOUT the real athletes.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 18 February 2014 11: 41
        -1
        Quote: kotvov
        but what about the intentional infliction of injury? that was in 1972. by the way what Canadians admitted, though years later. SO WHAT IS NOT NECESSARY ABOUT the real athletes.


        Touching tears about the intentional infliction of injury in hockey.
        Actually this whole sport is built around Mochilov on ice with sticks. laughing

        As for the gate - it happens.
        It was necessary to accurately score the shootouts.
  8. predator.3
    predator.3 18 February 2014 08: 08
    +3
    “It’s a pity that the judges didn’t notice it in time,” said Russian President Vladimir Putin, answering a question about the shifted goal at a hockey match between Russia and the United States.


    In our era of electronics development, is it possible to attach any sensor to this gate? And what the hell Russian-American meeting judges an American judge, the shortage of judges? fool
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 18 February 2014 08: 11
      +5
      here is such a "deficit"
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 February 2014 08: 17
        +5
        Quote: Gleb
        here is such a "deficit"

        It seems that we play in the USA or Canada.
      2. SibRUS
        SibRUS 18 February 2014 08: 17
        +3
        Judging by the "deficit", the victory is for Canada. crying
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 18 February 2014 08: 51
          +2
          After this, our guys and "brutalize" can. Let's see today what they will do with the Netherlands.
          1. avant-garde
            avant-garde 18 February 2014 08: 53
            +3
            Quote: siberalt
            After this, our guys and "brutalize" can. Let's see today what they will do with the Netherlands.

            We play with Norway
            1. SibRUS
              SibRUS 18 February 2014 09: 05
              +2
              We play with Norway

              He meant "Netherlands" from the word "kick". good
              1. kare
                kare 18 February 2014 11: 54
                +3
                He meant that Norway needs to be done, according to the Netherlands
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            3. RBLip
              RBLip 18 February 2014 09: 16
              0
              Quote: avant-garde
              We play with Norway

              and we should be pohren.
            4. Normal
              Normal 18 February 2014 10: 09
              +2
              Quote: avant-garde
              Quote: siberalt
              After this, our guys and "brutalize" can. Let's see today what they will do with the Netherlands.


              We play with Norway


              And they will "do" with the Netherlands! laughing
            5. avg
              avg 18 February 2014 10: 36
              +1
              Let's play a little with Norway, but if our men catch these "Dutch geese" ... we will remember all their skating offenses. angry
              1. avant-garde
                avant-garde 18 February 2014 10: 46
                0
                Quote: avg
                Let's play a little with Norway, but if our men catch these "Dutch geese" ... we will remember all their skating offenses. angry

                Guys do not write nonsense !!! golantsy do not play !!!!
          2. sssla
            sssla 18 February 2014 10: 37
            +1
            Quote: siberalt
            After this, our guys and "brutalize" can. Let's see today what they will do with the Netherlands.

            Well, what will they do? It was necessary to do with America, or at least after the loss to RIP Slovaks late about the Borjomi. And about the torn Norwegians (at your school they taught that it was Holland? Huh ha) --- you still tear the Brazil national hockey team HERE JOY HAY HEY
            1. avant-garde
              avant-garde 18 February 2014 10: 49
              +1
              Quote: sssla
              RIP Slovaks

              I have some thoughts about the game with Slovaks, the thing is, if we slam them into the main thing, we would go straight to 1/4 and automatically go straight to the beavers, and in my memory the 1/4 finals in Vancouver and score 7 are still fresh: 3 crying Maybe that's why they played with it. Well, this is my personal opinion.
              1. Bort radist
                Bort radist 18 February 2014 14: 14
                0
                Quote: avant-garde
                Maybe that's why they played with it.

                It also flickered, for now Canada will fight in the semi-finals: USA, but we (Pah-pah) with the Finns.
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      4. Horst78
        Horst78 18 February 2014 09: 34
        0
        And what does the NHL have to do with the Olympics? Already probably agreed who will take the 1st place, such as the USA or Canada am
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 18 February 2014 11: 47
          0
          But it’s interesting: When will we fight the Canadians in the Olympics finals - will the Canadian referees also judge the match? Well, so as not to break the tradition type .... angry
  9. Vicius
    Vicius 18 February 2014 08: 08
    +14
    Clean water, cheating: the goalkeeper (or team) and the referees. The goalkeeper deliberately moved the gate, the referees "did not notice", did not punish the goalkeeper, did not stop the game - it was a scam. There is a conspiracy between the judges and the team. Shame on you gentlemen. The referees of the playing teams must not be allowed to judge. Otherwise, there will always be similar collusion, it does not contribute to fair play ...
    1. mamba
      mamba 18 February 2014 09: 04
      +8
      Quote: Vicius
      it does not contribute to fair play

      Even at the Olympics, where everyone takes the Olympic oath:
      “On behalf of all the judges and officials, I promise that we will carry out our duties at these Olympic Games with complete impartiality, respecting and observing the rules by which they are held in a truly sporting spirit.”
      But, since Americans are not burdened with moral principles, besides they consider themselves God's chosen, then for them in this world there are no obligations.
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 18 February 2014 09: 22
        +1
        The task of the United States is to monitor the observance of the rules by others.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 18 February 2014 13: 18
      0
      Quote: Vicius
      Clean water, cheating: the goalkeeper (or team) and the referees. The goalkeeper deliberately moved the gate, the referees "did not notice", did not punish the goalkeeper, did not stop the game - it was a scam. There is a conspiracy between the judges and the team. Shame on you gentlemen. The referees of the playing teams must not be allowed to judge. Otherwise, there will always be similar collusion, it does not contribute to fair play ...

      Western referees did not take morality from the symbolic oaths of the player, referee and coach, sounded at the opening ceremony of the games ...
  10. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 18 February 2014 08: 09
    +2
    By the way, why is our president still being transported to Merc?
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    3. Horst78
      Horst78 18 February 2014 09: 36
      +1
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      By the way, why is our president still being transported to Merc?

      ZIL just started development. Well, he’s not right on the tank laughing well what's not at lincoln yet wassat
      1. Normal
        Normal 18 February 2014 10: 16
        +1
        Quote: Horst78
        ZIL just started development.

        Would you see that ZIL, I mean the plant. There is nothing to develop
        Quote: Horst78
        Well, he’s not right on the tank

        This option is already provided, such a development already exists. Without a gun, but with a comfortable (for the tank of course) cabin.
      2. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 18 February 2014 10: 50
        0
        since 2000? and still not starting?
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 18 February 2014 11: 50
          +1
          ZIL just started development.
          Already finished. The head of state did not like it ...
          Now Shoumen Fomenko designs a car for him. With bells ... laughing
  11. mountain
    mountain 18 February 2014 08: 15
    +4
    The character cannot be changed, both in politics and in sports, the US is not behaving correctly, and this is to say the least, it can be seen in a fair fight they won little. Already the whole world treats irony with exclusivity, this shameful country.
  12. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 18 February 2014 08: 15
    .
    I had the task of organizing a holiday for our people - ???
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 18 February 2014 08: 38
      +17
      Quote: McLooka-MacLeod
      I had the task of organizing a holiday for our people - ???

      And you have a task to spit it ???
    2. Horst78
      Horst78 18 February 2014 09: 38
      +4
      Quote: McLooka-MacLeod
      I had the task of organizing a holiday for our people - ???

      And from which side is this replica? what
      As it was said in one good movie "you need to have a snack"
  13. Yakov
    Yakov 18 February 2014 08: 25
    +3
    Quote: McLooka-MacLeod
    I had the task of organizing a holiday for our people - ???


    And what all the time for the West to try? He said everything correctly, it signals that Putin understands that Russia does not have friends around and that we are not going to ask for friends; let them scratch their turnips as they would like to establish normal partnership relations with Russia.
  14. rodiy2007
    rodiy2007 18 February 2014 08: 26
    +7
    Who would not say that the judges and refereeing are unprincipled in general, about their impartiality with respect to the teams, nationality, etc., but politics and big sport are tightly coupled, the facts are on the face!
    1. Romch
      Romch 18 February 2014 08: 42
      +1
      Quote: rodiy2007
      Who would not say that the judges and refereeing are unprincipled in general, about their impartiality with respect to the teams, nationality, etc., but politics and big sport are tightly coupled, the facts are on the face!


      We were clearly shown that they could spit in the face, not in the back, and also sentencing "such rules"
  15. Romch
    Romch 18 February 2014 08: 29
    +2
    This situation once again shows the attitude towards us, there is no fear and respect for our country and I do not care that the president of a great power is at the match. I immediately recall N.S. Khrushchev, would give a boot on the platform and immediately everything was clear everything became and the gates would be in place. It is very unfortunate that at our place guests can behave in such a way, what kind of owner, such is the house.
  16. koshaus
    koshaus 18 February 2014 08: 40
    +7
    "During the reign of this Psammis, the ambassadors of the Eleans arrived in Egypt and began to boast that they had organized the Olympic Games according to the fairest and most beautiful laws in the world. In addition, according to them, even the Egyptians themselves, the wisest people in the world, could not have thought of anything better [and fairer.] So, when the Eleans arrived in Egypt and told the king the business for which they had come, this king ordered to call the Egyptians, glorious for their great wisdom. The sages gathered and began to ask the Eleans what rules and procedures they have in the Olympic competitions. told them everything, adding in conclusion that they had come here to find out if the Egyptians could not come up with even more impartial rules and procedures for the competitions. And the sages, after consulting, asked if Elean citizens also took part in the competitions. They replied that they too can compete like all other Hellenes. The Egyptians objected to this that by such orders they completely violate impartiality: After all, as judges they cannot be impartial towards a fighter of their own citizens and not offend foreigners. If they want to hold the competition really in fairness and for the sake of this, they arrived in Egypt, then they should allow only foreigners to compete and exclude all Eleans. This was the answer given by the Egyptians to the Eleans. "
    Herodotus. Story
  17. major071
    major071 18 February 2014 08: 45
    +20
    When you on all counts
    In politics, Russia bends down
    What remains for the US authorities to do?
    Everybody throws forces to bribe
    Appointing your judge
    Did not count the goal in their own goal
    How can you believe this crook
    Looking for a match in half-turn
    For them, deception is an end in itself
    Such is their nature
    The main thing for them is to fill the wallet.
    And waving flags without a break
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 18 February 2014 08: 51
      +3
      You can’t say better. Bravo! hi
  18. vadson
    vadson 18 February 2014 08: 45
    +3
    it’s necessary for the match of the United States, Canada, to set ours up and let the Canadians move their gates with every American attack
  19. avant-garde
    avant-garde 18 February 2014 08: 48
    +7
    The Russia-Americans match was over, but the sediment remained unpleasant. Well, what was my soul sediment after I read this am , how the president of the Russian hockey federation can say this, knowing that hockey costs for us even after the failure in Vancouver 7: 3 to beavers: am am
    ====
    FHR President Vladislav Tretyak said that there would be no disaster if the Russian team at the Olympic Games in Sochi did not win gold.

    - If we do not win gold? There will be no disaster.

    SHAME !!!
    1. Romch
      Romch 18 February 2014 08: 56
      +4
      Quote: avant-garde
      FHR President Vladislav Tretyak said that there would be no disaster if the Russian team at the Olympic Games in Sochi did not win gold.

      - If we do not win gold? There will be no disaster.
      SHAME !!!


      And who would he be if he made such statements in his time, would he become a legend? Sport is, first of all, discipline and the bar should be higher than the first place to win it. Totally agree with you such statements only dampen.
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 18 February 2014 09: 03
        0
        Quote: RomCH
        And who would he be

        And who is he after that ??? Another masterpiece !!!

        Tretyak: I'm sure Quick moved the gate unintentionally

        President of the FHR Vladislav Tretyak touched on the episode with an unaccounted puck defender Fedor Tyutin vvorot Americans.

        - There are rules. International And I know them very well. The goalkeeper really moved the gate and did it unintentionally. And by the way, the judge, who did not notice the shift, was a Swede, not an American.
        1. mamba
          mamba 18 February 2014 09: 14
          +7
          Quote: avant-garde
          the judge, who did not notice the shift, was a Swede, not an American.

          But the main arbiter was an American. It was he who made the decision. Seeing how his subordinate messed up, he should have taken the blame on his panel of judges and counted the puck. But, we all saw his smile at the monitor! wink
          1. Srgsoap
            Srgsoap 18 February 2014 09: 38
            +2
            And yet ... you noticed that they showed only once a repeat during the match ... and that's it ... although they usually scroll and show them several times ... it's not just that I think ... Alas, in your the country had to wipe itself ...
        2. PValery53
          PValery53 18 February 2014 11: 16
          0
          And why would he not “notice” that the gate was moved when the goal was scored ?! - Aha! Got you? - Because collusion!
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 18 February 2014 09: 05
      0
      Quote: avant-garde
      FHR President Vladislav Tretyak said that there would be no disaster if the Russian team at the Olympic Games in Sochi did not win gold.

      Already prepare public opinion in advance?
    3. PValery53
      PValery53 18 February 2014 11: 11
      0
      Is that THIRD THIRD himself inciting our team to abandon the fight for gold ?! - Did he go crazy ?!
    4. Alex toll
      Alex toll 18 February 2014 15: 20
      0
      Duck Emma do not care! After all, in the States he skated his entire career - there is no homeland! The typical European became ...
    5. Luga
      Luga 18 February 2014 15: 38
      +2
      Quote: avant-garde
      FHR President Vladislav Tretyak said that there would be no disaster if the Russian team at the Olympic Games in Sochi did not win gold.

      Even after the Vancouver Olympics, the Tretiak said (I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the quote) that Canadians can put up three teams at the Olympics and that we can play on equal footing only with the third team. I even then noted that the goalkeeper, who stood at the gates of the USSR national team, which carried ALL bumps, could not say that. Even if this is true, which I personally doubt.
      "We must try", "we can beat anyone" - these are the key words, they must be pronounced.
      And in advance to talk about defeat ... With all due respect to the great goalkeeper, such things can only be said to yourself in the toilet.
  20. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 18 February 2014 09: 02
    +1
    To cheat is one of the tenets of capitalist society, to honestly compete not in their rules!
  21. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 18 February 2014 09: 06
    +1
    In the United States, both in sport and in politics, the concept of good and evil has long been shifted. They will ever play out in such a way that there is nothing to move and no one will!
  22. Dormidont
    Dormidont 18 February 2014 09: 10
    +4
    Okay, gate, judge-americos, shootouts, past! Let's believe that today the national team will finally wake up and play and show. And let them wash with all their "game" techniques! Go Russia!
    1. mamba
      mamba 18 February 2014 09: 35
      +2
      Quote: Dormidont
      Let's believe that today, finally, the national team will wake up and play and show.

      Bilyaletdinov started talking about the Norwegian team as a difficult opponent, with whom it is traditionally difficult for us to play. Those. our head coach publicly admits that he discourages the national team, instead of mobilizing it and setting it up for victory. I hope that at least our players have a sense of their own dignity and this "slap in the face" will finally mobilize them. angry
      1. alone
        alone 18 February 2014 21: 30
        0
        Quote: mamba
        Bilyaletdinov started talking about the Norwegian team as a difficult opponent, with whom it is traditionally difficult for us to play. Those. our head coach publicly admits that he discourages the national team, instead of mobilizing it and setting it up for victory. I hope that at least our players have a sense of their own dignity and this "slap in the face" will finally mobilize them.


        Here I completely agree with you. We have survived. Norway is a difficult rival. And what if then you have to play with Canadians or Swedes? With such a mood, it’s better not to go on the ice.

        The coach decided to hedge. What if misfortune happens?

        P.S. In my opinion, the players finally woke up .4-0.
        1. mamba
          mamba 19 February 2014 09: 41
          0
          Quote: lonely
          They survived. Norway is a difficult rival. And what if then you have to play with Canadians or with Swedes?

          First you need to defeat the Finns. Here is today's game with them and will show whether our players are set to fight or will still chew snot. I think that this is Bilyaletdinov’s last chance - to take at least bronze at this Olympics.
  23. Mviktor
    Mviktor 18 February 2014 09: 18
    +1
    Quote: Lantau
    American athletes.

    In my opinion, it is said too much. Real athletes intentionally do not move the gate !!!


    Americans are a sharpie in life, a sharpie and in sports. The concept of justice means nothing to them, the main thing is the law, and the laws are written for themselves
  24. bulvas
    bulvas 18 February 2014 09: 25
    +5
    It was not immediately clear why American ships entered the Black Sea
    Now it’s clear what evacuation from Sochi it was about - to save their judges so that they don’t
  25. White5
    White5 18 February 2014 09: 26
    +3
    America is stepping on its own rake, with total impunity it gives the impression of a spoiled child who really wants to get his candy. I think that they are trying to open our eyes not without help from above. It's not about the Americans, but about lies, that is, its lowest manifestation - Betrayal, which is an abomination. It is not scary to turn the other cheek, scary to turn BACK to such "Comrades".
  26. military
    military 18 February 2014 09: 35
    +2
    Putin: playing with shifted gates is always useful for one of the teams.

    14 years of experience, as they say, "you will not drink" ... yes
  27. bulvas
    bulvas 18 February 2014 09: 45
    +2
    Quote: military
    Putin: playing with shifted gates is always useful for one of the teams.

    14 years of experience, as they say, "you will not drink" ... yes


    still, do not compare sports and politics, different goals and rules
    Although professional sport is still that cesspool, the Olympic Games are different.
    The Americans decided that the Olympics are a continuation of their sports business, and acted as usual.


    I wonder how the Americans themselves - the audience, feel about such a "victory"?
  28. gispanec
    gispanec 18 February 2014 09: 48
    -1
    What nonsense ?? according to the rules of hockey, the puck thrown into the shifted goal does not count ..... everything ... what is the dispute ?? ... then what has specially shifted should be given to the goalkeeper for 2 minutes ... but for God's sake it is not necessary to politicize the sport. .. the mattresses also played hockey ... and in the shoot-out bullets they scoffed at us ... who prevented us from realizing the bullets ?? .... referee ??? ... the topic for patriots isn’t good at hockey ... our all unanimously admitted that the puck was abandoned in violation of the rules ... other opinions of the diminutive delitants. And I'm not protecting the mattresses here ... I'm for the fair play.
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 18 February 2014 09: 57
      +3
      The question is different, no one proves that the puck was scored correctly, the question is why the game was not stopped? if the gate was moved (intentionally or not, it doesn’t matter), the referee was obliged to stop the meeting and put the gate in order, but he didn’t, why ??? I didn’t notice, so then it is necessary to raise the question of his qualifications and pass certain sanctions. Well, this didn’t follow what, why?
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 18 February 2014 10: 05
        0
        absolutely everyone is wrong ... and remember according to the rules of the NHL ... this puck should be correct, but then the amer hockey player intervened (according to other rules, including those operating on olym.games) and pointed out the puck was incorrect ... the video replay confirmed ... everything ... the question is closed ... even our hockey players confirm the claims for refereeing they don’t have ..... so no ... our pseudo-analytic-sick people decided that everything was specifically against us here ....
        1. avant-garde
          avant-garde 18 February 2014 10: 11
          +2
          Quote: gispanec
          and remember by NHL rules

          Well, you don’t teach me the rules of hockey !!!
          And learn to read for a start, I tell you why the game was not stopped during, and if I was mistaken, let it be punished as it is in all leagues !!! UNDERSTAND !!!!
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 18 February 2014 10: 45
            +1
            Yes, what good is it to the obstinate to explain something ?? ... and why not CRASH that Norwegian cut the Volegzhanin with a specialist before the finish ??? ... but why don’t you yell about the skeleton and the fact that our Demchenko’s passage has never been shown ... Get out of Latvia, I saw that this was a violation of the rules, but why don’t you scream that our ski coach (was bought by amers) and didn’t stand with a stick like all the coaches of other countries stood on a very dangerous descent-turn and, as a result, Easy without a medal .. .da arranged a blockage with a specialist .... thought over in advance ... continue ?? ... there are still a lot of examples of errors and they are all NOT SPECIAL, and no one bears punishment .... what did he get? ... well, he kicked out the amer judge (he judged normally) and ours still dodged bullets ... what would you yell ???
            1. avant-garde
              avant-garde 18 February 2014 10: 57
              +1
              Where do you see me yelling ???
              You don’t understand, so sit and shut up, I’m explaining to you about what

              Two line representatives of Canada, Greg Devorski and Jes Wilmot.
              Moreover, the fact that they did not notice a shift is a violation of the IIHF rules: they are obliged to notice this, immediately stop the game and immediately inform the chief referee about the possible intentionality of the shift !!! They have not fulfilled their duty and certain SANCTIONS should be applied to them. All conversation with you is over, you can not answer !!!!
              1. gispanec
                gispanec 18 February 2014 11: 16
                -1
                Quote: avant-garde
                All conversation with you is over, you can not answer !!!!

                and thank you for the dialogue
    2. dddym
      dddym 18 February 2014 10: 11
      0
      and where is the punishment for the shifted gate then?
    3. dddym
      dddym 18 February 2014 10: 15
      0
      And yet - the shift was unconditionally - what the rules say how much the shifted gate is considered shifted in millimeters, please.
  29. Horst78
    Horst78 18 February 2014 10: 00
    0
    A white lab rat nicknamed Shurik from Tomsk State University (TSU) on Tuesday predicted a Russian hockey team’s victory over the Norwegian team in the qualifying round of the playoffs at the Olympics in Sochi.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/tomsk/20140218/995461836.html#ixzz2tePDNz00
  30. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 18 February 2014 10: 05
    +5
    This is not the Russian team, but the Russian team of the USA and Canada. Most of the players in the Russian national team have families, accounts, at home, work there. And the Russian team should play for their homeland, and not for money.
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 18 February 2014 10: 06
      -1
      Quote: vjatsergey
      This is not the Russian team, but the Russian team of the USA and Canada.

      belay Heavy case crying
    2. Horst78
      Horst78 18 February 2014 10: 51
      0
      Quote: vjatsergey
      This is not the Russian team, but the Russian team of the USA and Canada.

      You are Datsyuk, Malkin, Ovechkin, etc. try to say. Criticizing. We are all masters, and maybe Go out onto the ice and show the master class as a patriot and break all with one left.
      ps did not minus, it makes no sense to prove something to such "patriots"
      1. clidon
        clidon 18 February 2014 20: 42
        0
        Yes, don’t dare to scold movies - you haven’t taken a single one and discussed books, you probably didn’t sprinkle the rhyme either, singers, until you went on stage with a button accordion ... And you don’t like food in the restaurant, stomp home and cook yourself. until you yourself have achieved, there is nothing to open your mouth.
        And Datsyuk, Malkin and Ovechkin know it themselves. And the parents know those who now take their kids to hockey clubs at their own expense. Not because fans of skates and puck, but because "then it will pay off."
  31. shuhartred
    shuhartred 18 February 2014 10: 16
    +1
    You need to score more, that's all. And then, as usual, we have moments of darkness, but no realization. And in general, are you so broke? Tea is not the end. And the Americans have already used their call to a friend. The second time is not a ride.
    Quote: gispanec
    .that that specially moved it is necessary to give the goalkeeper 2 minutes of staff

    And still it was necessary to stop the game. As a result, everything was according to the rules before the goal, and then right away and the goalkeeper was not given two minutes. And where is the fair play?
  32. individual
    individual 18 February 2014 10: 38
    0
    Putin is able to instantly fight back from the hip point-blank.
    1. military
      military 18 February 2014 11: 43
      0
      Quote: individ
      Putin is able to instantly fight back from the hip point-blank.

      all the more, it is surprising that such a "cool walker" always performs "out of competition" ... laughing
  33. f4b2
    f4b2 18 February 2014 10: 39
    +1
    Bullshit, this is what:
    1. our Olympic Committee could not (or did not want to) stop this nonsense.
    before, the judge should not have been from the same country as one of the opposing teams.
    With what fright did our u ... allow the NHL rules to apply at OUR Olympiad?

    2. We have 10 coaching staff. And they didn’t browse the Internet, they didn’t talk to the players, they didn’t recognize
    What is such a convenient jamb for a state goalkeeper? And if they found out, they didn’t detach a person to watch this
    pi..m (no, not beer)?

    3. When our player was bumped up by a member of the State in a cancer pose to the right of the side gate, after the whistle, why didn't anyone blather?
    Where were all these officials?

    ... Well, bullets are a kind of random number generator. We are very unlucky here.
    Wow ... boiling up.
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 18 February 2014 10: 59
      0
      before spewing out anger .... carefully look at our players, coaches, federation .... no one in this intent and errors did not notice, more precisely, these are normal mistakes that occur in almost every match ..... and now. ..Well the whistle-gate to the place-overtime-bullets-victory of the mattresses = we are all happy ??? ... ours will still reach the final .... and there everything will be decided ... so what are the snot chewing here ?? ... do not know how and what to complain about ?? in case you suddenly add salt to newcomers ??)) ... pah ... pah ... pah ...
  34. gispanec
    gispanec 18 February 2014 11: 15
    0
    before spewing out anger .... carefully look at our players, coaches, federation .... no one in this intent and errors did not notice, more precisely, these are normal mistakes that occur in almost every match ..... and now. ..Well the whistle-gate to the place-overtime-bullets-victory of the mattresses = we are all happy ??? ... ours will still reach the final .... and there everything will be decided ... so what are the snot chewing here ?? ... do not know how and what to complain about ?? in case you suddenly add salt to newcomers ??)) ... pah ... pah ... pah ... I put 3-0 on the puck in every period .... your bets? ... naturally on our ... for urya patriots in RUSSIA !!!
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 18 February 2014 11: 33
      0
      Quote: gispanec
      ..and now ... well, the whistle-gate to the place-overtime-bulits-victory mattresses = are we all happy ???

      This is one of the options. And in general, should the rules be respected or not? Fortunately, the game was not for relegation.
      Quote: gispanec
      ..oury will reach the final anyway.

      And where is it written that ours will reach the final? With finami, the same mule will pass and hello. "Why," thought the Finns, "the states can, but why are we worse?" Then we will really chew snot.
  35. spech
    spech 18 February 2014 11: 22
    0
    Isn’t there really a camera that always shows the gates?
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 18 February 2014 11: 24
      0
      Quote: spech
      Isn’t there really a camera that always shows the gates?

      What kind of camera is this ???
  36. PValery53
    PValery53 18 February 2014 11: 35
    +2
    Something on the occasion of the Russia-USA match, no proceedings, no decision. What, everything went "as it should"? And our "representatives" have "swallowed" everything? - Oh, yes, hospitality does not allow us. And wed..t into our souls - "allows" ?!
  37. Nayhas
    Nayhas 18 February 2014 12: 09
    0
    “It’s a pity that the judges didn’t notice it in time,” said Russian President Vladimir Putin, answering a question about the shifted goal at a hockey match between Russia and the United States.

    What is pity then? Would you score then? Would you rather play with the Slovaks?
  38. Platov
    Platov 18 February 2014 12: 11
    0
    Require disqualification of a judge.
  39. kare
    kare 18 February 2014 12: 13
    +2
    I didn’t expect anything else from Pi.ndosov. It’s even calmer as it turned out that we didn’t disappoint in our infamous nature. As for our team, it’s far from news that inviting your legionnaires for games of this magnitude is better than a naked ... hedgehog. Not much I believe in their patriotism. You can put me cons.
    Ps That would be no such casuses to play need two orders of magnitude higher
  40. Nayhas
    Nayhas 18 February 2014 12: 16
    0
    Likely for the first time in the history of hockey the puck scored against the shifted goal was not counted ... There has never been such a thing before ... I suggest everyone with a boiling mind who is indignant to watch hockey more often, otherwise it seems that for the majority the USA-Russia match was the first viewed in life.
  41. Not served
    Not served 18 February 2014 12: 51
    +1
    Here are the statistics of the Soviet period of games with professionals, an analogue of modern OI
    Canada Cup held 5 times
    1976 - Canada, defeated in the final of Chekhov
    1981 - USSR
    1984 - Canada / Swedes / USSR
    1987 - Canada / USSR / Sweden
    1991 - Canada / USA / Finland - we are generally 5th.
    So, especially in Soviet times, we did not tear them. And hockey across countries is highly leveled.
    And in the fact that am lost, there are also significant advantages. We play the game more, teamwork should tighten. Finns are certainly not a gift, but they can be dealt with. Then the Swedes. And the Americans themselves outwitted themselves. They have either Czechs or Slovaks, that these, that they are not a gift. And the first game is not an indicator at all.
  42. pechv
    pechv 18 February 2014 13: 21
    +1
    This is a straight Benny Hill show. The goalkeeper at the beginning of the match moves the gate and goes about his business. If a goal is scored, it shall be canceled according to the rules. And so on.
    The question about the deliberate goal shift did not arise and how is this violation punished according to the Olympic rules? The referee looked for so long on the television - now it’s clear, he looked at the goalpost and saw what he needed. It was somehow not enough time to watch the goalkeeper’s actions a couple of seconds before the goal.
    From all this news it begins to feel nauseous, it’s all painfully clumsy and disgusting.
  43. kare
    kare 18 February 2014 14: 57
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFW8-pj9kZQ
    It seems to fall naturally, and it may have been training for a long time
  44. Luzhichanin
    Luzhichanin 18 February 2014 19: 49
    0
    Quote: kare
    Journalists asked Putin, and does not mean whether his departure from Sochi, that he had lost interest in the Olympics.

    “Of course not,” said the president of Russia. “My main task was to implement this project. And now this project has been implemented. I had the task of organizing a holiday for our people. I think this is also generally possible. This holiday situation it captures, absorbs, but needs to work. "

    It is a pity that not everyone paid attention to these lines.
    But it should be noted that in time these events coincide with the intensification of actions in Ukraine, and in Venezuela too ...
    A week was given to rest at the Olympics ?!
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 18 February 2014 19: 52
      0
      As if under this "noise" did not beat on the spitting blood of Syria
  45. Gray 43
    Gray 43 18 February 2014 22: 57
    0
    The head judge, probably, the grandmothers bet that the staff will win by anyone, and if I seriously remember 2012, the final in volleyball between Russia and Brazil, the judge didn’t count the decisive ball there, but ours scored again and earned gold.