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Liberals against the patriots: who wins?

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Liberals against the patriots: who wins?



What is the difference between “patriots against Putin” and “liberals against Putin”? The first dream: I wish I could change the one who had become hardened to the person with whom Russia would be better! Secondly: if only to finish off Russia completely, then Putin himself will fall! The patriots, alas, dream more; liberals do more.

Today, their main business is the word with which, as we know, everything begins. And in the liberal arsenal a whole set of ideologies - starting with the fact that Russia arose under the heel of foreign princes, and ending with the assimilation of our Olympiad-2014 to a fascist sabbath. In sum, all this should prove as two and two that Russia is not a country, but a kind of worthless pimple on the skin of the world, which God ordered to pick off!

Here are the most common places from this set.

Ivan the Terrible was a crazy bloodsucker, a murderer of his own son and even the darkness of the "best" people. This is despite the fact that he is not without cruelty, but much more in his time in other countries, he raised ours twice - try some clinics to do the same!

Napoleon came to save Russia from the serf system, and this wild country instead of thanks to him - pitchfork in the side!

The Bolsheviks are bloody freaks, they overturned the sweet king, and killed the powers that flourished by his prayers. That Nicholas II himself denied and was arrested by the Provisional Government close to him - the wild Russian people need not know, he should be protected from any knowledge at all.

Do not attack the bloody maniac Stalin on the conductors of Western culture from the Army Group Center, millions of Russians and Germans were alive and we would have drunk Bavarian beer long ago! Although Russian cattle, defended the dungeon under the name of the USSR, what to regret - but sorry for the cultural Germans! Like the color of the Russian nation, eaten by this maniac with porridge. De Tupolev, Bulgakov, Shostakovich, Pasternak and thousands of other Stalinist creators do not stand the little finger of those geniuses to whom the Stalin regime did not even give birth. Or as an option: Tupolev and Shostakovich are still geniuses - but they survived and received all the awards of the Motherland only by a miracle. I agree; but the name of that miracle is Stalin!

When the US dropped atomic bombs on Japan, or Israel attacked Egypt - it was fair and humane, for how could it not be thrown off, not attacked? They defended their homelands and interests, and hundreds of thousands of victims were not considered! But the entry of Soviet troops into Czechoslovakia is a crime without a statute of limitations, since what interests could the dungeon have? And all the 98 victims of that operation are still considered, appealing to the world tribunal!

To burn Vietnamese civilians with napalm in Vietnam was extremely noble and justified by the fact that the States "über alles"! But to stand up for these narrow-eyed was unacceptable for Russia built by the bloody hands of Grozny and Stalin!

When a skater from the United States takes the prize in a contest, who is not responsible for the hundreds of thousands killed by the States in Iraq, Libya, Syria, this is great, and let Obama lick him from head to toe! But when our girl is already Fascism, like at the 1936 Olympiad of the Year in Berlin: after all, she comes from this homeland of the “wrong elephants”! And since Putin, who had not bombed anyone in the world for the glory of correct liberal values, stroked her on the head — completely take out the saints and close this fascist Olympiad!

The idea of ​​this whole thread is under the guise of perpetual dissatisfaction of citizens with any authority and the temptation to overthrow a sober ruler to blame everything that somehow keeps under it.

But by and large geopolitical account sulk on the conductors of this idea is nothing. This is an old war between all countries - and as Stirlitz fought against fascism under a fascist french service, these guides, under a french, of our conciliators and human rights defenders are fighting against us. You can even be proud of our democracy: in America, such decoy ducks immediately went to slurp gruel in her Guantanamo. In our country, they freely serve the side that pays them, but because any moral dispute with them, like trying to shame them, has no meaning. This is their bread, they work it out for glory; and all the claims, since we really want to fix something here, we must show ourselves.

Russia is the kind of cake our neighbors on the planet have been licking their lips for a thousand years. Hence all the stories about our savagery and inability to live with our minds, launched by foreigners even in the Time of Troubles, when it seemed that it was already within reach of our capture. Then the Norman theory and the saga about the murder of his son by the Terrible were rubbing us such invited, like Yeltsin's advisors from the CIA, German historians like Bayer and Miller, broken even by Lomonosov. The Norman theory arose on the basis of the free interpretation of the chronicle word "Varangian", which did not mean at all some Swedes; the lie about the sonicide of Grozny is generally naked.

Today, for us, the time is also largely vague - and the same, as 400 years ago, theorists and practitioners with great historical the roads will put their teeth on our tidbit.

And the trouble is not that our dollar liberals work out their fees well. And the fact that our patriots do not do their job well, although their fee is no less than the Motherland itself. Liberals still have a victorious ability to unite, not led by our patriots, who therefore resemble lean cattle, and the liberals are obese. Those think correctly: we will capture the whole glade, then enough will be enough for the whole herd; and these, not hoping to seize something, first of all strive to take away a shred of hay from each other - and there already, as life shows. And life therefore often shows them shish.

No matter how much they chewed, they could not return either the name Stalingrad or Dzerzhinsky to its square. It’s not about these returns, but about the fact that without any victories in the followers, the spirit of victory and resistance goes out. Liberals, if attacked by their whole flock on someone, are most often torn to shreds; patriots on such feats guts. They are protected only by the bad Putin, without which they would have been barked for a long time - and I really liked one reader comment on this:

“Honey, and here the State Department? All themselves profukali, overslept, you can even more tightly say. Fuck you on the external enemy to nod when homegrown for all the intelligence of the world trying. Only I give a tooth, no one will do a damn thing, everyone is waiting for the Messiah, even Stalin, even the Jewish God Jesus ... "

And to be sure: the liberals never write: it is necessary that the authorities ... it is necessary that someone else ... Everyone does it themselves. And the patriots only pound their sleepy hope, like water in a mortar: when did Putin finally arrest all the oligarchs and distribute their gold to the people! But if, say, the residents of Stary Oskol revolted amicably, when the oligarch Usmanov was cleaning up their largest iron and steel works in Europe, this apricot would tick from there like scalded! But no one opened his mouth there; they themselves have surrendered everything, having lost at the same time the colossal "social sphere" - and, well, to appeal to Putin, so that some kind of God is made of him and being offended that he, bastard, is not God!

All patriots here want to be patriots in general - but not their own entrance, courtyard, city: it is painfully small and uninteresting for them. But one Avar lyricist said well on this score: whoever is not a poet in his aul is not a poet anywhere!

Why did the Soviet people defend their country from the Nazi invasion? Because she was his, for 20 years before the invasion, he built it all the way. And we for 20 of the past years have not built in fact nothing, nothing to protect!

We are all brave now anonymously reproaching Putin on the Internet — and Putin is listening and eating! But they are afraid to personally tell the district police officer, the prefect, the deputy for housing and communal services, the manager: “My dear, clearly state your name, surname and position. And look into my eyes, and not somewhere to the side! ”We can only have this on a drunken face - but it should be sober, then they won't twist it and put it in a cage! I myself applied in our prefecture like this - and the effect was healthy, the official just in case immediately opened his eyes in response: and the devil knows how else such an applicant will butt? But if 10, 100, 1000 people do the same, the power will already be published to them!

The feeling of Homeland necessary for any country is not taken from nowhere. But according to the law of materialism, that being determines consciousness, it is necessary to grow this consciousness on personal, even if small, soil first - just like the greatest river begins with a tiny trickle. Try it ten times in a row to pick up a piece of weed at your door and throw it in the ballot box. Of course, this can be done for you, who proudly wonders under his nose, and the incoming janitor-Tajik. But if you do it, then you will be amazed how your space will immediately become closer and dearer to you, you will want to protect it - so smart animals mark their circle from time to time and fight for it to death with strangers.

But we, in some lack of will that have seized us, want to have all of ours without a fight that complicates our life. We bow to the face of bad power - and we curse it with our eyes on what the light is. But nothing will come of it this way: it’s not our apologies that behave in our land where our brave men are, they will eventually bite us all. They have already taken away our factories and plants - they will not only take away life and land, but also two square meters of that land, legal for everyone!
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  1. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 17 February 2014 06: 38
    +16
    And how else to raise patriotism in the country.
    Previously, propaganda was pouring from TV, newspapers, and meetings, now that they have changed the format they are creating scoundrels that they are taking a rash of, then by will - you will become a patriot forcibly ...
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 17 February 2014 08: 22
      +14
      Take a look-the song of a liberal economist.
      With 0.46
      1. just exp
        just exp 17 February 2014 09: 24
        +1
        so until the bureaucrats become righteous (and they never will be) do we need patriotism? don't we need to know our story? we need to think only about the fact that someone is stealing?
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        2. siberalt
          siberalt 17 February 2014 15: 51
          +7
          True, it is bitter. Nobody is afraid of anyone. And this can be seen even by the constant party-goers of the "comedy club" - they clap their hands and laugh over a comic song. They do not catch those who steal, but those who break the rules in this.
          The song itself is about what everyone is hearing. Thanks for the video! He laughed heartily.
      2. Arberes
        Arberes 17 February 2014 10: 39
        +9
        Quote: mirag2
        Take a look-the song of a liberal economist.

        Good song. I wish the former governor of the Perm Territory Oleg Chirkunov to learn it, maybe he will have patriotism?
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 17 February 2014 11: 32
          +6
          You know, it would be better for Chirkunov to learn "Taganka", that would be great if he had a TIME for the jambs! good
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 17 February 2014 12: 35
            +4
            Quote: mirag2
            You know, this Chirkunov would be better to learn "Taganka"

            Well, from learning these lines, he certainly won’t get patriotism?

            Quote: mirag2
            that would be great, if he had a TIME for jambs to appear!

            In our country, they give a deadline when gentlemen are already in PARIS!
          2. alone
            alone 17 February 2014 21: 55
            +3
            The concept of an official and patriotism are incompatible things. Where there is money. Patriotism does not smell.
        2. just exp
          just exp 17 February 2014 12: 33
          +5
          so this governor is just a liberal in full, but he also paid for treasures and helmint exhibitions (Marat Gelman) from the treasury and patronized in full.
    2. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 17 February 2014 08: 28
      +26
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      And how else to raise patriotism in the country.

      Patriotism begins with the family of their porch. The burned elevator buttons and the pocked porch have nothing to do with the authorities acting at that moment, but they are much more annoying than the most corruption scandal. Although no, it still has a relationship, since the buttons are burned more and more often in new elevators and crap in a freshly painted / renovated porch.

      In Ufa, every six months, the city hall passes an audit of what has been done and what has happened with it for six months in order to identify a marriage or some other flaw, so the results make our hands fall. Of the 100 renovated houses in 50-80 for half a year, residents / or their guests managed to * fuck * fuck * everything that was done, which is difficult to distinguish from the original state, these are porches, lawns, and sports grounds, benches, elevators. .. Therefore, I liked the following paragraph in the article:

      Try yourself ten times in a row to pick up a weedy piece of paper at your entrance and throw it in the bin. Of course, this can be done for you, proudly shitting under your nose, and a newcomer Tajik janitor. But if you do this, you will be amazed how your space will immediately become closer and dearer to you, you will want to protect it - so smart animals mark their circle from the very beginning and fight for it with strangers.


      This idea is very sound, because what you invested in certain forces or means for you becomes much more valuable than what you got for free or just have. in general access.

      Therefore, our car enthusiasts are ready to tear each other's throats for a scratch on the back, and the yard after a community house clean-up costs longer than after cleaning by Tajik janitors or Russian janitors, it makes no difference
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 17 February 2014 12: 33
        +2
        Social consciousness to regret in the country remains at the level of children ... it’s just like in kindergarten, as it were, well, at least it used to be.

        In Russia there is a national sport - "Who is to blame?", But in this phrase they forget the second part - "What to do?"
        Until, as you said in Russia, they will not stop asking the question "Why should I (wash the dishes, clean up my area, and so on until the most difficult) ...?", And will not ask themselves "Who else if not me (will wash the dishes, clean up the site, etc.) ...? "
    3. jjj
      jjj 17 February 2014 12: 45
      +5
      And false liberalism, and pseudo-patriotism, and ostentatious nationalism - these are links of one chain. The liberals are screaming that human rights are being violated in Russia, which means that down with the existing system. Patriots are making noise that everything in Russia has been distributed to the oligarchs, which means that down with the existing system. The Nazis are buzzing that in Russia the national minorities are in charge, that means, down with the existing system. It does not matter for what reason the noise and din, it is important to note that the calls are the same for everyone. They are all aimed at the fragmentation and destruction of Russia as a great country, a mighty Motherland, a glorious Fatherland.
      True patriots try to establish a life around them without noise and pump. They have a clean house, tidied up in the yard, do not steal at work. Real nationalists try to educate their children and grandchildren in the native Russian traditions, culture and faith, but do not oppose everything Russian to other cultures. And even liberalism, in its true understanding, is the strengthening of freedom. And here traitors, in order to look more decent, pulled on themselves a mask of liberals.
      Our people are not at all deep, as many people imagine. He understands everything and makes, when the time comes, the right collective decisions
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 17 February 2014 13: 46
      +5
      "Patriots" are against, "liberals" are against. And then who is "For"? Perhaps the majority of those who voted for the president? And to whom can the author refer them? Some questions. what
    6. starshina78
      starshina78 17 February 2014 15: 16
      +2
      How to raise patriotism in the country? Elementary! It is necessary that every father and mother would raise a child on the examples of heroes who defended the Motherland at a difficult moment, let the child read not Harry Potter, but Chekhov, Tolstoy, Pushkin, so that the child would watch on the Internet not just another Hollywood "masterpiece", but a film that made him to think about the Motherland, duty, honor; to show the child an example in love for the Motherland, and does not fire up Russia in anything; to bring up sons in the spirit of preparation for service in the army and in the navy, and not to say lamenting how hard it will be for him there, and to look for ways to free his son from service. Patriotism cannot be brought up on purpose. It is absorbed with mother's milk, but only then some mother and father continue to raise their children in this spirit, while others say that there is nothing to do in this Raschke. And one more thing, I think an important factor in the development of patriotism in Russia is when our oligarchs start help our football and basketball, and not English and American clubs, when they build schools and hospitals here in Russia at their own expense, when they start helping Russia not in word but in deed, and finally, when the stratification in society will not be so , like now .
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 17 February 2014 16: 41
        +2
        Quote: starshina78
        How to raise patriotism in the country? Elementary! It is necessary that every father and mother raise a child using the examples of heroes who defended their homeland at a difficult moment, to give the child to read not Harry Potter, but Chekhov, Tolstoy, Pushkin,
        , and not bonfire in what got Russia;

        And who fires Russia? Yes, idiots from the Holodomoria slipped through, they are so sick. They criticize the government, not the country. And why cover up with general phrases this nonsense like "in every family ..." You yourself read Prishvin a lot at school and Dostoevsky? What kind of patriotism can be brought up in a family that only dreams of leaving the country? And those who climbed higher vertically consider the people a "vegetable" or, at best, the electorate.
        If the problem is so easily solved, then this problem would not exist for a long time. And you have only emotions and contradictions.
        Patriotism is not brought up on purpose. It is absorbed with mother's milk.

        Compare the first and second part of your pathos.
  2. just exp
    just exp 17 February 2014 06: 39
    +14
    I agree with the article, but all these "patriots" who act together with the opposition or support it, justifying themselves, they say we are not for America, we are against Putin, remind the Vlasovites and policemen, these were also not for the Germans, but against Stalin.
    however, got involved with the Germans, get and sign, and "patriots", got in touch with the opposition, grant-eaters, rainbow flags, do not be offended that you are called Judas and those who transmit, in the sense of transmitting, for if you are standing next to rainbow flags, then ring, those who stood under the Germans, our grandfathers considered fascists and their henchmen.
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 17 February 2014 07: 09
      +14

      Complete nonsense, but what about s / c according to 58 Art. went to the front? They didn’t go for Stalin, they went to defend their homeland. Somehow everything is miserable for you, the patriot got in touch with gruppoedy, gays, and if you didn't contact anyone? Arguments at the 5 level of the stubborn Klim Chugunkin class. As if there are only two opinions, one is liberals and the other is yours. Take your head off your head, it crushes you.
      1. just exp
        just exp 17 February 2014 09: 22
        +2
        and matches burn well, and cabbage is good.
        I mean, what do you have to fight for? everyone already knows that they are fighting for their land, home, family, I wrote about those who did not fight against the Germans, but about those who fought against the Russians, being Russian by blood.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 17 February 2014 14: 55
          0
          Quote: just EXPL
          and matches burn well, and cabbage is good.
          I mean, what do you have to fight for? everyone already knows that they are fighting for their land, home, family, I wrote about those who did not fight against the Germans, but about those who fought against the Russians, being Russian by blood.

          I guess that you know where the Volga flows and what horses eat. What does anyone have to fight against? An article on patriotism and liberalism. Try to read carefully, and not askew.
          1. just exp
            just exp 17 February 2014 21: 37
            0
            and how does this contradict what I wrote? besides liberals, the article contains other enemies of Russia, those who consider themselves to be patriots, wish evil of Russia, these are the characters who rejoice at the Maidan, they urge blacks to behave in a bastard way in Russia, and this is only because it will increase the discontent of the people or attract the West, and everything will lead to Putin leaving, that's all. they no longer have goals, for them the main thing is for Putin to leave, and I don’t understand the reason for such frenzied, deviant hatred, that is, a person on this basis has already moved with his cerebellum. they don’t even hide that they are ready to cooperate with the states, to claim that they are Russian nationalists, but they are ready to cooperate even with the Mossad.
            there are such people, and they are also part of the topic of the article.
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 17 February 2014 17: 01
        0
        Quote: ele1285
        Complete nonsense, but what about s / c according to 58 Art. went to the front? They didn’t go for Stalin, they went to defend their homeland. Somehow everything is miserable for you, the patriot got in touch with gruppoedy, gays, and if you didn't contact anyone? Arguments at the 5 level of the stubborn Klim Chugunkin class. As if there are only two opinions, one is liberals and the other is yours. Take your head off your head, it crushes you.


        What amused me in the article is that it, like tracing paper, is similar to the debates of Slavophiles and Westerners 150 years ago laughing
        Verily - something is not new under the moon and all that will be was laughing
    2. Kolya
      Kolya 17 February 2014 07: 29
      +4
      Those who take out garbage to landings should be sentenced locally for desecrating their native land. I am sure there will be many liberals among them. An effective mousetrap for a liberal would work.
    3. CALL.
      CALL. 17 February 2014 11: 09
      +5
      Let’s clarify what Patriotism is. Patriotism (from Greek: patriótes - compatriot, patrís - homeland, fatherland), love for the fatherland, loyalty to him, the desire to serve his interests with his actions. If a patriot loves the motherland and does not love the president, then this is either not a patriot, or something with the president. Let's try to deal with this issue. We will be guided by the famous saying of Mao Zedong, who once said a catch phrase: we will judge the actions of the Kremlin not by his words, but by his deeds. And here immediately the question. Why is the Kremlin so timidly responding to the ideological aggression of the WEST? I would like more decisive action in the information war. It is impossible to discount the increased experience of the United States in pitting the former Soviet republics. All this suggests that we are on the verge of a great war.
      1. jjj
        jjj 17 February 2014 12: 49
        +1
        In fact, the first to judge not by words, but by cases Vladimir Ilyich used to say
    4. yur
      yur 17 February 2014 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: just explo
      Judas and those who transmit, in the sense of broadcast, more if you are standing next to rainbow flags, t
      Not pass, but backward. In general, if it's serious, those who "got in touch with the opposition, grant-eaters, rainbow flags" are not patriots. This is just another bunch of people thirsty for power, because the one who rejects the choice made by the majority of the people of his country cannot be a patriot. By definition, he cannot be a so-called "democrat" either. And if you consider yourself a patriot, put up with the choice of the people, work, prove that you are better, and perhaps in the next elections people will put you at the head of state. I think so.
  3. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 17 February 2014 06: 39
    +3
    And if a person is a patriotic liberal?
    And if not a liberal at all, but hates Russia and wants to leave?

    These cases are not considered. Not an order.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 17 February 2014 06: 55
      +2
      And if a person is a patriotic liberal? smile
      And if a person is a liberal patriot? smile

      Wow, new types of patriots appear, mimic under the butterfly Limenitis archippus.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 17 February 2014 06: 57
        +10
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        And if a person is a patriotic liberal?

        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        And if a person is a liberal patriot?

        You can put the question differently .. And if the person is D, E, B, I, L?
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 17 February 2014 17: 04
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          And if a person is a patriotic liberal?

          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          And if a person is a liberal patriot?

          You can put the question differently .. And if the person is D, E, B, I, L?


          So the fact of the matter is that D, E, B, I, L - this is another dimension - it has nothing to do with the "struggle" of "patriots" with "liberals" laughing
      2. sinukvl
        sinukvl 17 February 2014 09: 34
        +20
        There are liberals, there are patriots (not to be confused with nationalists, these are two different things) and they can’t converge, they are different in spirit. Some hate Russia. others are proud of her, some want to ruin her, others make strong.



        One of them is a patriot, and the other is a liberal, who is who guess yourself.
        1. alone
          alone 17 February 2014 21: 57
          0
          Quote: sinukvl
          One of them is a patriot, and the other is a liberal, who is who guess yourself.


          The question is better to ask the powerful if you want to know who is who!
    2. ZU-23
      ZU-23 17 February 2014 07: 27
      +6
      Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with a number of Russian and foreign television channels affirmatively responded to a statement by a journalist who asked him to confirm that he was "a true liberal and holds liberal views." So much for the patriotic liberal. Then there are liberals bloodsuckers. And those who are against all these people are in limbo, such as a rule, they make a loud noise, say today the Zhirik will be beautiful for the Zhirik, that’s just like throwing Serdyukov’s bone and they will gnaw at it all, victims of Internet manipulation from bad liberals.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 17 February 2014 08: 46
        +10
        Wait, Wasserman writes patriotic articles about the Russian people.
        Soloviev defends Russian shrines)))
        Putin talks about spiritual bonds ....

        And the God whom they pray in the Churches, told People, according to CASES you will know HIS ....
        We have in the power of "balabolki" liberal-patriotic)))) AND THERE DOES NOT HAVE SUCH IN NATURE.
        Patriot, then you are tearing the veins and not doing the KIND of your PEOPLE ...
        A liberal means you bring Tajiks to jobs And people leaving the entrance ALREADY do not pick up any pieces of paper.

        useless.

        The people then do not = Raska, as they try to present to us. They say they’re drinking, they’re not doing anything, and even Wasserman wants to lead the Russian people ....

        Funny.

        It rolled into the Revolution, it rolled into 91, before that rolled countless times.

        Wait ALL. No more Natanzones. Although Ukraine is trying, but THIS is already a hackneyed record. And she is already deadly tired of everyone. And managers in Switzerland ... And the Russian People .....
        It is impossible to listen to the "biblical" gramophone, but they are trying to start the squeaky records for us again. Here is the same article .... I don’t put either Minus or Plus.
        That "party" that wait upstairs has no chance of changing something. And they won't ... And what they say is unrealizable intentions, which have already accumulated for a GOOD JUDGMENT .... FOR TRAITORS (who are waiting for a moment on TV) )) \
        THERE IS NOT A SOME PATRIOT.
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 17 February 2014 11: 19
          +6
          Quote: Asgard
          Patriot, then you are tearing the veins and not doing the KIND of your PEOPLE ...

          During the perestroika period, any newly-minted "democrat" considered it his duty to quote the phrase attributed to Tolstoy: "patriotism is the last refuge of villains."
          In fact, the statement belongs to the English critic, and the poet Samuel Johnson, who lived in the XVIII century. In the original, it sounds like this: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
          The English word refuge (refuge, refuge) has another meaning: salvation, comfort. That is, not just a refuge, but a saving refuge.
          Johnson with this phrase wanted to emphasize the nobility of patriotism.
          Thus, the author’s sense of the statement is: not everything was lost even for the most inveterate scoundrel, if he still has a sense of patriotism, obeying which he can perform a good deed, a noble act in war or in peaceful life. That is, patriotism for such a person is the last chance to be morally reborn, to justify his life.
          1. virm
            virm 17 February 2014 14: 04
            +1
            Article - War is inevitable, and will have to fight with the Islamists, their own nationalists and Ukrainian Bandera
            http://topwar.ru/39705-voyna-neizbezhna-i-voevat-pridetsya-s-islamistami-sobstve

            nnymi-nacionalistami-i-ukrainskimi-banderovcami.html # comment-id-1950730
            ... Samuel Johnson.
            "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"
            ... the point is that the worst person who does not have good and human features has a love for his land and his people.

            )))
      2. just exp
        just exp 17 February 2014 09: 27
        +4
        Stalin and Trotsky, both were communists, only communism was a different paragraph.
        there is a legend for an international image, it is a legend about a liberal, if you call yourself a liberal, it does not mean that you are, there, the girig created the LDPR, the letter L stands for liberal, and who will call him liberal?
        1. demel2
          demel2 17 February 2014 10: 25
          0
          We are called liberals for those who wish to live according to geyropeskimi values ​​(that is, they lick the West's ass for some loot, others out of a love of art). And liberals have nothing to do with the definition.
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    4. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 17 February 2014 10: 06
      +2
      Quote: Kibalchish
      And if a person is a patriotic liberal?

      A patriotic liberal is a fabulous character, or even a set of words of antagonists like: a thin fat man .....
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 17 February 2014 17: 07
        +1
        Quote: ziqzaq
        Quote: Kibalchish
        And if a person is a patriotic liberal?

        A patriotic liberal is a fabulous character, or even a set of words of antagonists like: a thin fat man .....


        Alexander II as an example of a patriotic liberal in my opinion quite so
    5. Toporkoff
      Toporkoff 17 February 2014 10: 55
      +3
      And if a person is a patriotic liberal?
      And if not a liberal at all, but hates Russia and wants to leave?

      "Herzen did not emigrate, he did not believe the beginning of Russian emigration; no, he was born as an emigrant. All of them, like him, were directly born with us as emigrants, although most of them did not leave Russia. In a hundred and fifty years of the previous life of the Russian nobility for With very few exceptions, the last roots have decayed, its last ties with Russian soil and with Russian truth have been shaken.It is as if history itself intended to express in the most striking type this break with the people of the vast majority of our educated class. In this sense, this is a historical type. people, they naturally lost God. The restless of them became atheists; the sluggish and calm - indifferent. For the Russian people they had only one contempt, imagining and believing at the same time that they love him and wish him all the best. They loved him negatively , imagining instead of him some ideal people - what, in their opinion, the Russian people should be like. "
      F.M. Dostoevsky "THE WRITER'S DIARY" 1873 II. OLD PEOPLE

      To paraphrase a well-known National Socialist, I will say: "When I hear the word liberal, I grab onto Dostoevsky!")
    6. yur
      yur 17 February 2014 17: 45
      0
      Quote: Kibalchish
      And if a person is a patriotic liberal?
      Yeah, also a vegetarian tiger. "It's fantastic, son."
  4. mirag2
    mirag2 17 February 2014 06: 56
    +4
    Yes, the work begins with the fact that a person would rub, that he is a bastard, and instill a sense of guilt, then, the humiliation and debunking of heroes, then the destruction of traditions and the actual destruction of the values ​​and goals uniting the population ....
    This is a recipe.
  5. Horst78
    Horst78 17 February 2014 06: 56
    +4
    Liberals flock like hyenas, and patriots like a connecting rod bear walk alone and don’t know what they want, but they want something.
    1. explorer
      explorer 17 February 2014 10: 00
      0
      Why is this?
      Quote: Horst78
      like a connecting rod bear, he walks alone and does not know what he wants, but he wants something.

      First of all, it’s a shame for his power !!
      and secondly, why one - they won how much the whole EP!
      hi
      1. demel2
        demel2 17 February 2014 10: 40
        +1
        Quote: explorer
        - how many of them all EP!

        They mocked with patriots in United Russia, if they are patriots, then I’m clearly not on the way with them, although I consider myself a patriot.
        1. explorer
          explorer 17 February 2014 11: 44
          +2
          it's irony. as is the comparison of a patriot with a connecting rod bear.
          But the patriots in EP are still there! only what country is the question. wink
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 17 February 2014 17: 10
            0
            Quote: explorer
            it's irony. as is the comparison of a patriot with a connecting rod bear.
            But the patriots in EP are still there! only what country is the question. wink


            I think there are patriots in United Russia - it should be treated as the CPSU in its time. If you want help in your career, you’ll go to EP for additional connections and support.
            Those. EP is essentially not a political organization; it is rather a club of lovers to build a career with the support of the authorities.
            Sometimes there is nothing wrong with this - it works as an amplifier, stupidly enhancing both positive and negative effects.
        2. explorer
          explorer 17 February 2014 11: 44
          +1
          it's irony. as is the comparison of a patriot with a connecting rod bear.
          But the patriots in EP are still there! only what country is the question. wink
      2. Horst78
        Horst78 17 February 2014 14: 39
        0
        hi
        they won how much the whole EP!
        In EP, not patriots (although I do not exclude individuals) but bureaucrats. I vote for them because others are even worse.
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 17 February 2014 17: 12
          0
          Quote: Horst78
          hi
          they won how much the whole EP!
          In EP, not patriots (although I do not exclude individuals) but bureaucrats. I vote for them because others are even worse.


          The whole history of early medieval China is the history of the rule of the enlightened patriotic bureaucracy repeat
          There is nothing bad or good in the bureaucracy itself.
          This is just a class of professional government officials.
          Corruption and permissiveness did not begin with them and did not feed on them alone.
          Here, the siloviki are more likely to set the tone with their mentality.
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  6. Same lech
    Same lech 17 February 2014 07: 03
    +6
    They have already taken our factories and factories - after that they will take away not only life and land, but also two square meters of that land that are legal for everyone!


    Take away how to drink Dust-earth BURZHUYAM-oil CHUBAISAM-people in the crematorium for fertilizer am
    The trend is that globalization is being actively pushed into our society inevitably making us superfluous garbage in the eyes of CAPITAL.
    And we will have to fight for our existence, at least according to the scenario that the respected forum member wrote to us Author Oleg Chuvakin about firewood. angry
  7. makarov
    makarov 17 February 2014 07: 06
    +5
    "Clever animals have been marking their circle from time immemorial and fighting for it to the death with strangers."

    A neighbor's cat got into the habit of sprinkling my car, but does not want to fight me to death. So I taught him a lesson from the air a couple of times, it seemed to help, the car stopped stinking. Probably according to the author's conclusions, because of this, I moved to the category of "smart animals".
    1. Alex toll
      Alex toll 17 February 2014 11: 27
      +1
      You just had to pee on the wheel))))) and not shoot an unarmed cat !!! hahaha
    2. yur
      yur 17 February 2014 20: 17
      0
      Quote: makarov
      I taught him a lesson from the air a couple of times, it seemed to help, the car stopped stinking. Probably, according to the author's conclusions, because of this, I moved into the category of "smart stars
      No, you are a hero, the same as with the "optics" against the calf.
  8. does it
    does it 17 February 2014 07: 11
    +10
    the darling king and killed the power prospering him with prayers. That Nicholas II denied himself and was arrested by the Provisional Government close to him - the wild Russian people do not need to know
    To the very point! And then they zadolbali with his "holiness"
  9. General Frost
    General Frost 17 February 2014 07: 28
    +8
    Greetings to all members of the forum !!!! A good article, true !!! It’s really time to wake up to the proletariat, oh time. It’s time to remember that the working class is a gigemon in the state and that we are a people, and do not forgive the electorate.
  10. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 17 February 2014 07: 53
    +15
    Everything is now divided into black and white, but the most interesting thing is that even if you are not white, but not black, it is still black. And it turns out that if you are not a liberal, but against Putin’s policies, you are still a liberal, and certainly not a patriot. Patriots are only those who are for Putin, and who are for EP. All other liberals, corrupt, not patriots. such is arithmetic. Although this cannot be called arithmetic, it is too illiterate and stupid.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 09: 34
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      And it turns out that if you are not a liberal, but against Putin’s policies, you are still a liberal, and certainly not a patriot. Patriots are only those who are for Putin, and who are for EP. All other liberals, corrupt, not patriots. such is arithmetic.

      And those, and others have in their minds the ever-memorable slogan "Who is not with us - then against us!" - you don't need to think so much - you can immediately see who is the enemy and who соarmyNick. laughing
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 17 February 2014 12: 49
        +1
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        And those, and others have in their minds the ever-memorable slogan "Who is not with us - then against us!" - you don't need to think so much

        The phrase was popular in the early years of Soviet rule and is usually associated with aggressive revolutionary propaganda. But its primary source is the Bible.
        With this phrase, the ALIEN were covering up their atrocities, clearing living space and warm places for themselves and their "Children of the Arbat". On September 5, 1918, the SNK decree "On the Red Terror" was adopted, which stated that the expansion of the scale of terror is a direct necessity. To isolate (exterminate) all potential enemies of Bolshevism, concentration camps are created. People's Commissar of Internal Affairs GI Petrovsky issues an order: “All persons involved in White Guard organizations, conspiracies and rebellions are to be shot”, sent to all provinces about the mass taking of hostages from among the former ruling classes, officers, and the intelligentsia. In the event of the slightest resistance to the hostages, it was proposed to use an unconditional mass execution.
        And now they’re more likely to go to blogs and forums.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 15: 45
          +1
          Quote: Z.O.V.
          And now they’re more likely to go to blogs and forums.

          ... and use this motivation in defining the opponent's "face".
          As a result, the slightest deviation from the "set topic", or motivated disagreement, automatically turns the dissenter into the position of an "enemy of the people" with the cry "So you are against the Soviet regime!"
          100 years have passed, and the methods and slogans are the same.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 17: 37
            +1
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            100 years have passed, and the methods and slogans are the same.

            Silent and regular minuses ask you to say "In impotent rage, the red commissars ...".
    2. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 17 February 2014 09: 42
      +4
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Everything is now divided into black and white.

      Welcome.
      So everything is true - divide and conquer ...

      Quote: vladsolo56
      And so it turns out if you are not a liberal, but against Putin’s policies, still a liberal, and certainly not a patriot.
      laughing
      That's just -
      Quote: ZU-23
      Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with a number of Russian and foreign television channels affirmatively answered a statement by a journalist who asked him to confirm that he “true liberal and liberal". So much for the patriotic liberal.

      And ALL cheers, they stubbornly do not want to notice.

      Quote: vladsolo56
      Patriots are only those who are for Putin, and who are for EP. All the other liberals corruptare not patriots.

      Yes, corrupt laughing And at the same time, AmErica is to blame for everything. The game "USA-RF", ours lost it. Again the americans are to blame laughing And what are they ours? They live THERE, play THERE, property THERE, what is OUR in them ??? The game of Americans vs Americans, with American referees laughing
      And if they play for us, so - we need to play for three periods, and not then scratch and be offended by the "weather". However, the game with Slovakia is just another example.

      And now it’s worth trying to be objective, right away
      Quote: vladsolo56
      All other liberals, corrupt
    3. ovgorskiy
      ovgorskiy 17 February 2014 11: 37
      +5
      But I have a different impression of the article. As the author sharply divided, patriots and liberals, and most importantly without decoding. According to the article, those who are not a Stalinist and are against the return of Dzerzhinsky are no longer a patriot automatically. And the author does not even suspect that there is a huge distance between the extreme left and the extreme right, occupied by the bulk of people with different views, and among these people there are many real patriots of Russia. Well, the article itself seems to be correct, but something from "it is better to be healthy and rich than poor and sick."
  11. T-100
    T-100 17 February 2014 08: 02
    +8
    And the day will come very happy
    When Russia will throw off a liberal cloak.
    She will replace him with a dress
    A uniform shining with stars on the shoulders.

    Sam composed, crooked of course, but oh well))))
    1. Jaros81
      Jaros81 17 February 2014 10: 15
      +5
      "Love, hope, quiet glory
      We were deceived for a short while,
      Young fun disappeared,
      Like a dream, like a morning mist;
      But desire still burns in us;
      Under the yoke of power fatal
      An impatient soul
      Homeland vneshlem calling.
      We are waiting with a longing for hope
      Minutes of holy liberty,
      How to wait for a lover young
      Minutes of a true date.
      While free burn
      While hearts for honor are alive,
      My friend, dedicate to the fatherland
      Souls are wonderful impulses!
      Comrade, believe: she will rise,
      Captivating Star of Happiness,
      Russia will wake up from a dream,
      And on the ruins of autocracy
      They will write our names! "

      AS Pushkin
      1. 222222
        222222 17 February 2014 14: 59
        +3
        "And you arrogant descendants
        Known meanness of illustrious fathers,
        Fifth slavish remnants of wreckage
        A game of happiness for offended deliveries!
        You, greedy crowd at the throne,
        Liberty, Genius and Glory hangmen!
        You are ransacked under the law,
        Before you, the court and the truth - all are silent! ..
        But there is also God's judgment, confidants of debauchery!
        There is a terrible trial: he is waiting;
        It is not accessible to the ringing of gold,
        And he knows thoughts and deeds in advance.
        Then in vain you will resort to evil thoughts:
        It will not help you again,
        And you will not wash away all your black blood
        Righteous blood poet! "
        Lermontov M.Yu.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 17 February 2014 17: 36
          +1
          When the last ruble soprut these misery,
          Then this power will voluntarily disappear.
          And all the bosses quit their jobs,
          Because nafig power-
          If there is nothing more to steal.
          T.Shaov "Lottery"
  12. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 17 February 2014 08: 14
    +3
    Double standards rule the world. That is - a lie. But the lie is eradicated by the truth. Or by your actions.
    you just need to deflate the muzzle in the mud whining about the Western values ​​of the liberals inside and afterwards be with them in the international arena. And then go too much nonsense began. Oh, disgusting, pah ...
    Otherwise, if we lose, our asses will serve as a delight to the liars. And that’s not pinning me up ....
    Therefore, there remains only a struggle with liberals, pid ... mi and other evil spirits in all its manifestations on earth, in heaven and sea! soldier
    1. does it
      does it 17 February 2014 20: 09
      0
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Double standards rule the world. That is - a lie. But the lie is eradicated by the truth.

      A lie repeated a thousand times becomes true.
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 17 February 2014 08: 30
    +8
    Disagree only with Usmanov and the plant. He didn’t come to the tanks with a fit of attack? The scheme is complicated with stocks, etc. And did anyone see him there at least once? The director is hired, but on social programs, so we have to ask the trade unions here where the cats are snickering for working money. bought them with giblets. And to compare the trade unions in the USSR and Russia in general, earth and sky. Patriot is waiting for the moment in ambush. angry
  14. drop
    drop 17 February 2014 08: 34
    +3
    Dear readers of "VO" in the country, the government should have a national program for the recovery and development of the economy, a national program for the education of patriotism, a program for strengthening the Armed Forces, etc. There are no such programs. Therefore, all forces of liberals and patriots will each speak their own way. The article correctly described their activities.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 February 2014 08: 38
      +5
      Quote: Drop
      in the country, the government should have a national program for raising and developing the economy,

      Medvedev recently voiced this program, until 2020, 25 million new modern jobs.
      Quote: Drop
      national patriotism education program,

      Parents should start with their children. As for patriotism, five years ago no one knew the words of the Russian anthem, now they are already singing.
      Quote: Drop
      aircraft strengthening program, etc.

      And what we do not rearm the armed forces?
      Quote: Drop
      These programs are not
      It's hard for you to live laughing
    2. CALL.
      CALL. 17 February 2014 13: 18
      0
      Quote: Drop
      there should be a national program for raising and developing the economy, a national program for the education of patriotism, a program for strengthening the armed forces

      Cadres, as you know, decide everything. Now the key positions in the life of the country are occupied by proteges or representatives of the oligarchic class, who pursue a policy of their interests.
      As for the media, according to various estimates, from 60 to 90% of key posts are held by people hostile to the peoples of Russia. And, as a consequence of this, the degenerative format of most television and radio programs, newspapers and magazines. Almost all of them in one form or another are waging an information-psychological war against Russia. The fact that corruption is rampant on TV is also no secret. By the way, the share of Russians in the media, as well as in other key sectors of the economy and culture, is small.
      How can one deal with this? For example, in Switzerland and the USA, there is a law on national proportional representation for this, for violation of which they will seriously punish.
  15. Gardamir
    Gardamir 17 February 2014 08: 52
    +1
    Almost everything is true, but how does it happen that liberals are those who are higher, and patriots are those who are lower. The decision to return the name of Stalingrad to Volgograd is taken upstairs. And I don’t even consider Rogozin a patriot. And the patriots at their level, all that remains is to clean up the garbage.
  16. dmb
    dmb 17 February 2014 08: 53
    +5
    "Spring is coming, the road for spring." Psychiatrists say that at this time, their clients begin to experience exacerbations. For those who disagree, I recommend following the link and looking at the author's photo. Then it becomes clear where this set of "chants" of football fans, presented as thoughtful analysis, comes from.
    1. makarov
      makarov 17 February 2014 09: 12
      +1
      I ran through the link, looked ?? maybe the author of the specialist posted such a frightening photo, believing that so his words will look more convincing? laughing
      1. Normal
        Normal 17 February 2014 10: 06
        +1
        Quote: makarov
        maybe author specialist


        Clear the day! Is it only good?
  17. 31231
    31231 17 February 2014 09: 09
    -1
    Yes, there are enough of these "patriots". Plushenko and hockey players were poured with mud. People are ruining their health for the sake of Russia, and not a gold medal, and they say from the sofas, "Athletes got drunk on our taxes."
    Stroimna work with such people. Cracors.
  18. Mviktor
    Mviktor 17 February 2014 09: 21
    +3
    [quote = The same LEKHA] And if a person is a patriotic liberal? smile
    And if a person is a liberal patriot? smile

    The Liberal Partiot is from the realm of fiction or a temporary disguise to achieve his goal. but the axiom is liberal = social parasite + hatred of Russia
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 17 February 2014 13: 01
      +2
      Quote: Mviktor

      The Liberal Partiot is from the realm of fiction or a temporary disguise to achieve his goal. but the axiom is liberal = social parasite + hatred of Russia

      I agree.
      Liberal "human values" do not contain patriotism. A liberal cannot be a patriot and he has nothing to do with the Russian people, he is a common man.
  19. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 09: 25
    +3
    All patriots here want to be patriots in general - but not their own entrance, courtyard, city: it is painfully small and uninteresting for them. But one Avar lyricist said well on this score: whoever is not a poet in his aul is not a poet anywhere!

    Respect to the author!
    The immortal lines "Where does the Motherland begin ..." are summed up under everyday reality, a sort of explanation of one's position "in a simple way", without cleverness and grandiloquent words. hi
  20. Svetlana
    Svetlana 17 February 2014 09: 35
    +2
    I myself addressed this in our prefecture - and the effect was be healthy, the bureaucrat, just in case, immediately opened his eyes in reply: what the hell does such a supplicant get up to? But if 10, 100, 1000 people do the same, the authorities will bow to them from a distance!

    You were just lucky; in another place, the guards will twist you for insulting their Majesty and send them to the police to the monkey. One person (or 100 and 1000) will not do anything, a nation-wide force is needed.
    everyone is waiting for the messiah, even Stalin, even the Jewish god Jesus ... "

    Yes, indeed, you can wait this way indefinitely, but without a leader, nothing will come of it, it will be the Russian Maidan. Someone in the forest, and some for firewood. Only a leader can provide an organized movement and a clear line of action. Examples of the failure of the unorganized actions of the masses in history in bulk. And vice versa. Here, please, in our time - Old Man was able to restore order in Belarus and restore social justice. He is not Jewish Jesus and not Stalin, he is just a competent politician, business executive and a true patriot in deed, not in words.
    1. jjj
      jjj 17 February 2014 13: 00
      0
      Old Man, of course, does not believe in Allah. But apparently he also has a heavenly patron who gives money
  21. Karabin
    Karabin 17 February 2014 09: 40
    +5
    liberals against Putin

    Bees against honey. Without him they are nobody. In any election, liberal parties will gain 2-3% of the vote. Therefore, they bark at him exactly as much as is necessary to maintain the current state of affairs. In a different scenario, the liberals will not have a wet spot.
  22. santush
    santush 17 February 2014 09: 47
    0
    I liked the beginning of the article, the ending is not very!
  23. RUSS
    RUSS 17 February 2014 09: 49
    +1
    In principle, liberalism is not something terrible, alien and incomprehensible, in Russia it simply took the form of perverted liberalism, plus the bulk of the liberals are politicians and figures "losers" of the 90s who discredited liberalism. Liberals in Russia are already more marginalized, rabid populists and opponents in everything and everywhere. Unfortunately, in modern Russia there is still no destructive strong democratic party in opposition, parties and movements that profess democratic values ​​and democracy.
  24. RUSS
    RUSS 17 February 2014 09: 56
    +2
    Ivan the Terrible was a crazy bloodsucker, a murderer of his own son and even the darkness of the "best" people. This is despite the fact that he is not without cruelty, but much more in his time in other countries, he raised ours twice - try some clinics to do the same!

    Napoleon came to save Russia from the serf system, and this wild country instead of thanks to him - pitchfork in the side!

    The Bolsheviks were bloody, they threw off the Tsar’s darling and killed the power that flourished with prayers. That Nicholas II denied himself and was arrested by the Provisional Government close to him - the wild Russian people do not need to know, he generally should be protected from all knowledge.


    These statements are not even liberals, but corny stupid and narrow-minded people, with not healthy thinking. You know how some ignoramuses and hooligans at school to somehow stand out from the rest, or vice versa, to be noticed somehow, sometimes make rash acts or just carry nonsense, shouted at lessons, etc., and so in this case they blurt out nonsense and kind of lit up.
  25. groin
    groin 17 February 2014 09: 58
    +5
    To truly love your homeland, you do not have to be an outrageous "patriot" or a liberal, or someone else. It is enough to be a normal person and citizen.
  26. Normal
    Normal 17 February 2014 10: 02
    +11
    Article minus.

    Firstly for picking in abscesses and sweet relishing of this picking:
    .... Russia is not a country, but a kind of worthless pimple on the skin of the world ....
    The Bolsheviks are bloody ....
    .... to the wild Russian people ....
    .... bloody maniac Stalin ....
    Although the Russian, who defended the dungeon under the name of the USSR ....
    .... eaten by this maniac ....
    .... this fascist Olympics!


    Secondly, for substitution and demagogy:
    The idea of ​​this whole thread is under the guise of perpetual dissatisfaction of citizens with any authority and the temptation to overthrow a sober ruler to blame everything that somehow keeps under it.

    The author suggests to be "eternally satisfied" with any power, in no case to express dissatisfaction with the policy of the beloved ruler? After all, with him something
    holds on somehow
    I see ...
    But what about this ?:
    But the patriots just push, like water in a mortar, their sleepy hope: when Putin will finally arrest all the oligarchs and give them the gold to the people! But if, say, the residents of Stary Oskol rebelled together when the oligarch Usmanov cleaned up their largest metallurgical plant in Europe

    But isn't Putin the oligarch Usmanov? And would not pro-power mass media dub the residents of Stary Oskol not pro-liberal Russian Natsiks and fascists in the event of open-mindedness, dissatisfaction with the actions of the authorities and the oligarchy?

    Here is another phrase:
    They (it’s necessary to understand the patriots) are protected only by the bad Putin, without whom they would have been shredded for a long time (liberals must be understood)


    Here it is. Good Putin protects some incompetent patriots from some evil liberals. Well done! He defended Kvachkova with Khabarov as much as he had hidden under the escort and in prison, so that the liberals would not get to them and grumble. Saves ...

    And more:
    We bow to the face of bad authority - and we curse it behind our eyes what the light stands for. But nothing will come of it: not our apricots, who behave in our land where our bravery is, will eventually bite us all. They have already taken away our factories and plants

    So who is pursuing this policy? Who gives the green light to both oligarchs and ordinary apricots in Russia? Who took the factories and plants and now says that there is no reason to review the results of criminal privatization?
    Who is the main liberal in Russia?
    1. virm
      virm 17 February 2014 14: 14
      +2
      "So there. A good Putin protects some incompetent patriots from some evil liberals. Well done! He defended Kvachkov and Khabarov as much as he did, under escort and in a prison, so that the liberals would not get to them and take care of them.

      Yeah. And the 282nd article protects. And CPEeshnikami.
      For any such verbiage and distortion (as the author of the article) there are good Russian proverbs. Such for example: God save us from such friends, and we will deal with enemies ourselves.
  27. Arbatov
    Arbatov 17 February 2014 10: 03
    +1
    "We are now all brave to anonymously find fault with Putin on the Internet - and Putin listens and eats! But they are afraid to personally tell the district, prefect, deputy for housing and communal services, manager:" My dear, clearly state your name, surname and position. And look me in the eyes, and not somewhere to the side! " We can only have this in a drunken face - but it should be on a sober head, then they won't twist and put in a cage! I myself addressed this in our prefecture - and the effect was good, the official just in case immediately opened his eyes in response: and the devil knows how else such a petitioner butts? "

    Aw, well done!
  28. predator.3
    predator.3 17 February 2014 10: 13
    +12
    What is the difference between “patriots against Putin” and “liberals against Putin”? The first dream: I wish I could change the one who had become hardened to the person with whom Russia would be better! Secondly: if only to finish off Russia completely, then Putin himself will fall! The patriots, alas, dream more; liberals do more.


    King makes the retinue! Let's say that Putin is with us, well, the most, the most ...! And who is surrounded ?! The government, the presidential administration, is like a battered deck of cards, how many do not hang out the same people, for the most part - mediocrity! (Well, except for a couple of people) Serdyukov, Fursenko, Golikova, Chubais, etc. who appointed? -Putin! And what did they do, slurp and slurp!
  29. corn
    corn 17 February 2014 10: 22
    +4
    Quote from the article:
    "Liberals, if they attack someone with their whole flock, most often they will tear them to shreds; patriots have little guts for such feats."
    Something in life I have not noticed.
    In my opinion, the site "Voennoye Obozreniye" is a rather patriotic site, on which patriotic rather than liberal values ​​are consistently defended.
    This article is more provocative, because has a very selective selection of arguments, with comments directed to emotions, not to reason. But the author of the article claims to be reasonable.
  30. Yurich
    Yurich 17 February 2014 10: 38
    +2
    When there were elections to the State Duma, he voted for the Communist Party, so that at least some alternative would be EP, he voted for Putin at the presidential elections and did not hide it. To the question, why for him? Show me their number of applicants more than normal, who, not by words but by deed, pulled the country out of the shit of the 90s, and I will vote for him.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 10: 54
      +1
      Quote: Yurich
      Show me their number of applicants more than normal, who, not by words but by deed, pulled the country out of the shit of the 90s, and I will vote for him.

      Shortly before October 1917, between Ulyanov-Lenin and Plekhanov there was a sharp divergence of opinion about the readiness of the people of the Republic of Ingushetia for the planned transformations ....
      Today the situation is reversed. Maybe the requirements for leadership are too high?
    2. yur
      yur 17 February 2014 20: 47
      0
      Quote: Yurich
      When there were elections to the State Duma, he voted for the Communist Party, so that at least some alternative would be EP, he voted for Putin at the presidential elections and did not hide it.
      He also voted for exactly the same reasons.
  31. Orakyl
    Orakyl 17 February 2014 11: 05
    +4
    The disease is so neglected that only tactical intervention can give a chance for recovery. All the chatter of politicians that they say there is no support from the people, therefore, they themselves are to blame for the situation, nothing more than an attempt to evade responsibility. I will answer them with the words of the great Russian actor Filatov: "Well, why don't you, with a sharp saber like this, we are keeping all of you for that, to keep the people in peace" !!!
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 17 February 2014 13: 12
      +4
      Quote: Orakyl
      The disease is so neglected that only tactical intervention can give a chance for recovery. All the chatter of politicians that they say there is no support from the people, therefore, they themselves are to blame for the situation, nothing more than an attempt to evade responsibility. I will answer them with the words of the great Russian actor Filatov: "Well, why don't you, with a sharp saber like this, we are keeping all of you for that, to keep the people in peace" !!!

      Our policies are anti-people and therefore there is no support from the people, they must be treated with lead gadgets.
      The sniper from the ambush fired once
      The villain couldn’t hide from the bullet,
      The bullet of an old goat put out
      So it has become less evil on the planet.
  32. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 17 February 2014 11: 16
    +3
    explorer RU
    Why is this?
    Quote: Horst78
    like a connecting rod bear, he walks alone and does not want what he wants, but he wants something.

    First of all, it’s a shame for his power !!
    and secondly why one - they won how much the whole EP!

    Something you sent to the wrong address The phrase - "insulting for the state."
    Seem to be last officialwho was offended for POWER and who did not take the "MZDU", so this Pavel Artemyevich Vereshchagin. Alas...
  33. krpmlws
    krpmlws 17 February 2014 11: 49
    0
    The article is excellent, but I would like to correct it. The fact is that true patriots in Russia are not enough, therefore it is more difficult for them to compose a critical mass that could actively influence the processes in the country. In order to advance patriotic ideals in practice, a person must have a lot of advantages: high intellectual level, soundness of thinking and most importantly to love the Motherland more than anything. There is a feeling that something is interfering with the generation of patriots in Russia, some kind of virus is corroding the minds. Look, things are much better in the West with national identity, national dignity. and confused (incapable of independent, sound thinking), one must assume that the same amount is everywhere. Perhaps this virus appears from the information space, which is mainly of Western origin, has a pro-Western ideological degree. It is quite conceivable that Western tutors taught one of the noble children one of the foundations of this virus settled in the Russian people. Western immigrants in On the 18-19th centuries, the Russian matrix was actively redrawn. We are now reaping the fruits of their destructive activities. Therefore, the patriots have such strong hope for a miracle, the arrival of a strong leader, because there is nothing to hope for, much unfortunately. We need to change the modern Russian matrix, or rather restore it serious work that only the relevant head of state can master.
    1. CALL.
      CALL. 17 February 2014 14: 29
      +1
      Quote: krpmlws
      .In order to promote patriotic ideals in practice, a person must have a lot of advantages: a high intellectual level, sound thinking and, most importantly, to love the Motherland more than anything.


      To do this, we are here on the forum and communicate, share information, facts and opinions. Pleased with the high level of comments.
      1. krpmlws
        krpmlws 17 February 2014 15: 58
        +1
        Quote: Z.O.V.
        Quote: krpmlws
        .In order to promote patriotic ideals in practice, a person must have a lot of advantages: a high intellectual level, sound thinking and, most importantly, to love the Motherland more than anything.


        To do this, we are here on the forum and communicate, share information, facts and opinions. Pleased with the high level of comments.

        This forum, the level of comments reflects the situation in the Russian people, so I can not find a reason for special joy.
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 17 February 2014 16: 14
          +1
          Quote: krpmlws
          This forum, the level of comments reflects the situation in the Russian people, so I can not find a reason for special joy.

          The good news is not the high level of optimism of the comments, but the high level of analytics, awareness and reasonableness.
  34. JonnyT
    JonnyT 17 February 2014 12: 16
    +3
    Yes, all this is fiction! The current government itself has created liberals and pests; it actively supports and protects them. The average liberal rain was funded by Gazprom, Medvedev, Serdyukov, Chubais and so on and so on, for our money you are pouring on the smelly streams of liberal excrement ......... we must somehow distract the lackeys from pressing problems ! Who is to blame for everything? Who is to blame for corruption? Who is to blame for the low birth rate? Who is to blame for the high prices of housing, education, medicine? Liberals ????
    Liberals have absolution! So to speak, people can let off steam on them!
    When in Russia will the authorities be held accountable for the current situation?

    ps By the way, the true meaning of liberalism has been perverted to unrecognizability!
    1. washi
      washi 17 February 2014 15: 53
      +2
      Quote: JonnyT
      Yes, all this is fiction! The current government itself has created liberals and pests; it actively supports and protects them.

      It was created not by the acting, but by the previous government, starting with the lover of artists and poets Andropov.
      Quote: JonnyT
      The average liberal rain was funded by Gazprom, Medvedev, Serdyukov, Chubais and so on and so forth, for our money you are flowing on the smelly liberal excrement flows .....

      I agree. And also the financing of football and other sports clubs. Unfortunately, we are not in 1936. This is what GDP said. And in 1936 there were DICTATOR-NATIONALISTIC MODES in the MOST countries of Europe and WE could afford HOW THEY ARE.
      After the looting of the country, we can not afford the dictatorship, when the Liberals are around (a little in a different wording from the Great Soviet Encyclopedia), this requires evolution (which was what the IVS, the opponent of dictatorships), and not revolution. We will slowly, slowly go and ALL the herd ..... (in a hurry - you will make people laugh), etc. I want everything at once, but only in fairy tales.
      And who are you with? I am with the people. And with GDP.
      Quote: JonnyT
      ps By the way, the true meaning of liberalism has been perverted to unrecognizability!

      But it was not the Communists (who disappeared from the political arena of the world in 1991) who perverted this, but the liberals themselves.
      They reduced him to egoism and anarchism. Although it was so from the very beginning.
      Liberalism (from lat. Liberalis - free) is a philosophical and sociopolitical movement that proclaims the inviolability of human rights and individual freedoms [1], which advocates minimizing state interference in people's lives.
      Liberalism proclaims the rights and freedoms of each person as the supreme value and establishes them as the legal basis of social and economic order.
      This is not possible without denying the family and the state.
      No state - no order. (an example is the outskirts).


  35. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 17 February 2014 12: 44
    +2
    The author is right in stating the facts and is utter nonsense in their interpretation.
    As long as there is a "legitimate legally elected government" in the country, all attempts to overthrow it are a rebellion, no matter who is in power or ... the race. The system can only be changed by revolutionary means, through a bloody civil war with inevitable intervention from abroad.
    Are people ready to shed blood on the barricades with weapons in their hands? Do we have leaders and a program for seizing power and reforming the state system? We have nothing of the kind and the people are not eager for barricades, so there’s nothing to scam him in vain.
    The seizure of property, Russophobic propaganda, denigration of history, corrupt media, these are inalienable attributes of liberal anti-popular capitalism. In "civilized" countries where liberals are in power, the people are always defenseless against the tyranny of bandits and the authorities. Apricots are not aliens from Venus, but products of the liberal authorities, so attempts to hinder them, from the point of view of liberals and capitalist oligarchs, are illegal.
    As long as there is a working law enforcement system, attempts to replace it by putting things in order in the entrance, on the street, in the city are assessed as criminally arbitrariness.
    Is the author ready to go to jail for pacifying impudent villains in his porch with violence?
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 17 February 2014 14: 02
      +1
      Quote: Corsair5912
      The author is right in stating the facts and is utter nonsense in their interpretation.
      <...>
      Is the author ready to go to jail for pacifying impudent villains in his porch with violence?

      +100500

      A bit complemented below.
    2. washi
      washi 17 February 2014 15: 27
      0
      Quote: Corsair5912
      As long as there is a "legitimate legally elected government" in the country, all attempts to overthrow it are a rebellion, no matter who is in power or ... the race. The system can only be changed by revolutionary means, through a bloody civil war with inevitable intervention from abroad. Are the people ready to shed blood on the barricades with weapons in their hands? Do we have leaders and a program for seizing power and reforming the state structure? We do not have anything like this and the people are not torn to the barricades, so there is nothing to mess with in vain.

      I agree. The people have adapted.
      Just explain this to "Maidanovtsy" and "Bolotniki"
      Quote: Corsair5912
      As long as there is a functioning law enforcement system, attempts to replace it by putting things in order in the entrance, on the street, in the city are assessed as criminally arbitrary. Is the author ready to go to prison for pacifying impudent villains in his entrance using violence?

      I don’t know as an author, but anyone should, at least because of self-esteem, protect the weak.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 17 February 2014 16: 37
        0
        Quote: Vasya
        I agree. The people have adapted.
        Just explain this to "Maidanovtsy" and "Bolotniki"

        Maydanovtsy and bogs of the structure from 2's layers.
        1. Fifth convoy, trained hired provocateurs of foreign intelligence services.
        2. Naive gullible simpletons, believing in a good president and just fools and hooligans.
        Quote: Vasya
        I don’t know as an author, but anyone should, at least because of self-esteem, protect the weak.

        To protect the weak, of course, should and should be, but then it is better to get away and not fall into the hands of the "grateful" police.
    3. user1212
      user1212 17 February 2014 15: 28
      0
      Quote: Corsair5912
      As long as there is a working law enforcement system, attempts to replace it by putting things in order in the entrance, on the street, in the city are assessed as criminally arbitrariness.

      Is it you so intricately said "it's not a royal job to clean up after yourself"? It seems that while they offered to just sweep. There was no proposal to plant and shoot.
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Is the author ready to go to jail for pacifying impudent villains in his porch with violence?

      You started a sweep using automatic weapons and grenades? Is such a terrible youth in your porch?
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 17 February 2014 16: 46
        +2
        Quote: user1212
        Is it you so intricately said "it's not a royal job to clean up after yourself"? It seems that while they offered to just sweep. There was no proposal to plant and shoot.
        You started a sweep using automatic weapons and grenades? Is such a terrible youth in your porch?

        If drunks or drug addicts get into the porch, you will be tormented by sweeping. I kicked them 4 scum of the year with kicks from the entrance, while I learned to do no harm.
        It would be cheaper to immediately shoot both youth and not youth either. This scum is not scary, but annoying and dirty.
        And the garbage doesn’t even react, no they laws against dirty tricks.
  36. alehnov
    17 February 2014 13: 35
    +1
    I can not refrain from gratitude for the apt image
  37. siberalt
    siberalt 17 February 2014 13: 38
    +1
    This is the story the guards write to us.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/745/jowt656.jpgр
  38. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 17 February 2014 14: 00
    0
    Kill me, but I still don't get the true focus of this article. Something like "all the girls are stupid and all the boys are fools."

    What do you mean "patriots are not active"? Who sees a real, patriotic leader who can compete for power and who is worth supporting?
    There is a vague feeling that the article is something like a scout’s flight to someone else’s territory to open the air defense system. Those. type, bring people to the barricades, like Kiev, under the leadership of the same as there ...
    No, do not go. No.
    1. CALL.
      CALL. 17 February 2014 14: 36
      0
      Quote: Al_lexx
      What do you mean "patriots are not active"? Who sees a real, patriotic leader who can compete for power and who is worth supporting?

      Boris Mironov. http://www.borismironov.ru/
      Read and see how Churov removed him from the presidential election.
  39. tank64rus
    tank64rus 17 February 2014 14: 27
    +3
    Unfortunately, now we can see the ears of the CIA behind the "liberals", now they are not really hiding it. For example, whores released from prison for desecrating the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, which is a monument to Russians who died in the war of 1812, are already applauded in the United States. They already see themselves as the leaders of the Russian Maidan. Maybe it's high time to stop the activities of all foreign agents under the brand name of NGOs and stop looking at what the West will tell us.
  40. SAMARA
    SAMARA 17 February 2014 14: 38
    +1
    Begin with yourself! The gist of the entire article. When you wake up in the morning do not forget to ask yourself "do you need a coma today?" You will get the answer yourself when you get stuck in the mud, when you fall, when you run a wheel on the road and there is no jack, when you get lost in an unfamiliar area, when (God forbid) your loved ones are in trouble ... Then you will understand that everyone needs you day every minute.
  41. washi
    washi 17 February 2014 15: 14
    -2
    We are all brave now anonymously reproaching Putin on the Internet — and Putin is listening and eating! But they are afraid to personally tell the district police officer, the prefect, the deputy for housing and communal services, the manager: “My dear, clearly state your name, surname and position. And look into my eyes, and not somewhere to the side! ”We can only have this on a drunken face - but it should be sober, then they won't twist it and put it in a cage! I myself applied in our prefecture like this - and the effect was healthy, the official just in case immediately opened his eyes in response: and the devil knows how else such an applicant will butt? But if 10, 100, 1000 people do the same, the power will already be published to them!
    I agree. Start with yourself - become an example. Then the local government, then the provincial.
    The revolutionary situation (according to Lenin): the lower classes do not want, but the upper circles cannot.
    A revolutionary situation in terms of GDP: he wants, the lower classes are amorphous, or are engaged in stupid criticism (and whoever criticizes, we call it critics (I don't remember the "humorist" - the author of the phrase. There was also about the "nefertiti" gait in the monologue), and the middle (oligarchy, government, and these are not only ministers, "creative intelligentsia" and "hamsters" against).
    It’s not possible to fight alone from the top.
    This was shown by the reform of 1861, which was adopted in the worst form for the peasantry.
    And it was only possible to restore St. George's Day, and much earlier.
  42. intsurfer
    intsurfer 17 February 2014 15: 22
    -1
    Some set of cliches in the article ...
    There is no confrontation between real liberals and patriots. And indeed in Russia, all terms and concepts have ceased to mean something. Can a unicorn official with a family, money, real estate abroad be considered a patriot? Or is he then a liberal and an oppositionist?

    Wiki:
    Liberalism (from lat. Liberalis - free) is a philosophical and sociopolitical movement that proclaims the inviolability of human rights and individual freedoms [1], which advocates minimizing state interference in people's lives.


    Patriotism is a special emotional experience of one's belonging to a country and one's citizenship, language, and traditions.


    And how can liberalism prevent you from being a patriot of your country ?! Or I did not understand the meaning of the article ...
  43. repytw
    repytw 17 February 2014 15: 30
    +2
    Everything is very simple, now liberals are in power! As soon as the patriots come to power, they will demand a change of policy, to put things in order, and then the liberals in power will not hold out for six months.
    For this, a multi-vector policy is being pursued starting from patriotic flirting with the people of the President and ministers, ending with support for the fragmentation of patriotic forces, exacerbation of this fragmentation, and distraction of the electorate from patriotism through the media.
  44. washi
    washi 17 February 2014 16: 09
    0
    For liberals and anarchists.
    I probably also do not mind - divorced
    DECREE
    Saratov Provincial Council of People's Commissars on the abolition of private ownership of women
    Legal marriage, which took place until recently, was undoubtedly the product of social inequality, which should be uprooted in the Soviet Republic. Until now, legal marriages served as a serious weapon in the hands of the bourgeoisie and in the struggle against the proletariat, thanks to them all the best specimens of the fair sex were the property of the bourgeois imperialists and the proper continuation of the human race could not be disrupted by such property. Therefore, the Saratov Provincial Council of People’s Commissars, with the approval of the Executive Committee of the Provincial Council of Workers, Soldiers 'and Peasants' Deputies, decided:
    §1. From 1 on January 1918, the right to permanent possession of women who have reached 17 l. Is canceled. and up to 30 l.
    Note: The age of women is determined by metric records, passports, and in the absence of these documents by quarterly committees or elders and by appearance and testimonies.
    §2. This decree does not apply to married women with five or more children.
    §3. For the former owners (husbands) the right is reserved for the extraordinary use of his wife.
    Note: In case of opposition of the ex-husband to the implementation of this decree in life, he is deprived of the right granted to him by this article.
    §4. All women who fit this decree are withdrawn from private permanent possession and declared the property of the entire working people.
    §5. The distribution of the management of alienated women is provided (Sov. Rab. Soldier. And the Cross. Deputies to the Gubernsky, Uyezdny and Selsky by belonging.
    §6. Muscovite citizens have the right to use a woman no more than four times a week and no more than 3 hours, subject to the conditions specified below.
    §7. Each member of the working people is obliged to pay 2% of their earnings to the fund of the national generation.
    §8. Every person who wants to use a copy of the national heritage must present a certificate of belonging to his working class to the workers' committee or trade union.
    §9. Muscians who do not belong to the working class acquire the right to use alienated women under the conditions of the monthly contribution indicated in §8 to the fund of 1000 rubles.
    §10. All women declared by this decree as a public domain receive a contribution of 280 rubles from the fund for the generation of the people. b month.
    §eleven. Women who are pregnant are released from their duties of direct and state duties for 11 months (4 months before and one after childbirth).
    §12. After a month, the babies who are born are given up to receive the "Nursery", where they are brought up and receive education until the age of 17 years.
    §thirteen. At the birth of twins of the parent, a reward of 13 rubles is given.
    §14. Those guilty of the spread of venereal diseases will be held legally liable in a court of revolution.
    Archival business N 15554-P in the Oryol FSB
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 17 February 2014 16: 57
      +2
      Quote: Vasya
      For liberals and anarchists.
      I probably also do not mind - divorced
      DECREE
      Saratov Provincial Council of People's Commissars on the abolition of private ownership of women
      Legal marriage, which took place until recently, was undoubtedly the product of social inequality, which should be uprooted in the Soviet Republic. Until now, legal marriages served as a serious weapon in the hands of the bourgeoisie and in the struggle against the proletariat, thanks to them all the best specimens of the fair sex were the property of the bourgeois imperialists and the proper continuation of the human race could not be disrupted by such property. Therefore, the Saratov Provincial Council of People’s Commissars, with the approval of the Executive Committee of the Provincial Council of Workers, Soldiers 'and Peasants' Deputies, decided:
      §1. From 1 on January 1918, the right to permanent possession of women who have reached 17 l. Is canceled. and up to 30 l.

      Vasya, this decree has nothing to do with Saratov’s Council of People's Commissars; this is a hoax exposed in the same 1918 year.
      The "Decree on the Abolition of Private Ownership by Women" was a fake fabricated by the owner of a Saratov tea house, Mikhail Uvarov. What goal did Uvarov pursue when writing his "decree"? Did he want to ridicule the nihilism of the anarchists in matters of family and marriage, or was he deliberately trying to turn large sections of the population against them? Unfortunately, this is no longer possible to find out.
      The joker anarchists banged for a bad joke.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 17: 47
        +1
        Quote: Corsair5912
        Vasya, this decree has nothing to do with Saratov’s Council of People's Commissars; this is a hoax exposed in the same 1918 year.

        But he did not appear from scratch - there were certain prerequisites for that. And the reaction of the Saratov residents is proof of this.
        Quote: Corsair5912
        The decree on the abolition of private ownership by women "was a fake fabricated by the owner of a Saratov tea house, Mikhail Uvarov.

        This is how a fake could become a regulatory and guiding document for the authorities?
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 17 February 2014 18: 18
          +2
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          But he did not appear from scratch - there were certain prerequisites for that. And the reaction of the Saratov residents is proof of this.
          This is how a fake could become a regulatory and guiding document for the authorities?

          Do you not understand the meaning of the text? It is clearly written who was the author of the fake and from where did he compose it?
          This fake was nowhere and never, not even a second, a document for the authorities, it was used in anti-Soviet propaganda. It was.
          And what was not used in it? How many idiotic inventions still roam in anti-Soviet and anti-Russian dirty libel in Europe and America?
          Read that nonhumans like the vile liar Shenderovich write about Sochi.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 22: 16
            +1
            Quote: Corsair5912
            This fake was nowhere and never, not even a second, a document for the authorities, it was used in anti-Soviet propaganda. It was.
            And what was not used in it? How many idiotic inventions still roam in anti-Soviet and anti-Russian dirty libel in Europe and America?

            I will answer.
            The reason for the answer was a film a couple of months ago broadcast on TV (I don’t remember the name of the channel), dedicated to the problems of LGBT people. In the film, the events in Saratov are presented as documentary, with a demonstration of the decree.
            We'll have to "dig", figure it out ...
    2. waisson
      waisson 17 February 2014 21: 06
      0
      watched a film about this leapfrog of jokers and fools and then enough
  45. washi
    washi 17 February 2014 16: 14
    0
    DECREE
    Saratov Provincial Council of People's Commissars on the abolition of private ownership of women
    The most interesting thing is that Comrade Adolf adopted a similar program to stimulate fertility.
    And we have received similar.
    Instead of family give Materinsky capital.
    The peasants remained in the country, or only the Boris Moiseyevs.
    Admins offer a contest.
    Who has more children? Foster also take. The prize is financial. If you remove insults from each user according to the steward, I think that will not happen.
    Results for the new 15 year.
    Keep up.
  46. siberalt
    siberalt 17 February 2014 16: 28
    +1
    ele1285
    Complete nonsense, but what about s / c according to Article 58 went to the front? They did not go for Stalin, they went to defend their homeland.

    Actually, in Art. 58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR had 14 points. They were repeatedly reviewed in the direction of toughening penalties. Those convicted under this article were not allowed to go to the front and were given armor for use in the rear (in the same Volgograd in firefighters and other special units). The exception was the military commanders, for whom the question of the front was decided at the highest level. So that all sorts of films about penal battalions, where "criminals" are fighting along with "political" - directorial "inaccuracies".
  47. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 17 February 2014 18: 05
    0
    The turbulence in the author's brain is confirmed by the confusion in the outpouring of reproaches first to the "liberals" and then to the "patriots." The bottom line is a sane idea to start a? Process? reforging into? a normal member of society? independently, and with the collection of garbage. This simple idea has already been voiced by M.A. Bulgakov putting it into the mouth of Professor Preobrazhensky (monologue about devastation). MINUS article, plus discussions.
  48. bilgesez
    bilgesez 17 February 2014 18: 26
    +1
    The conclusion is that it is vital to unite, from below, into cells, to create horizontal connections. Establish an information center. Writing flyers, almost everyone has a printer to print for their entrance is not difficult. We need to work actively with the people, and not just correspond in forums.
  49. parus2nik
    parus2nik 17 February 2014 18: 27
    0
    when Putin will finally arrest all the oligarchs and distribute their gold to the people! Well, I would like to know: when will Putin finally arrest all the oligarchs? Their gold to the budget .. And whatever the budget is plundered .. It sounds naive, but I would like it like that… Or will it still not be arrested? .. Oligarch Anenkov, adviser to the presidential adviser, Levitin .. and who will arrest anyone? And who advises whom Putin, the oligarch or oligarch Putin ..?
  50. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 17 February 2014 21: 12
    +1
    Greetings to all Colleagues! The article is not bad, but there is a lot of "water", I just want to say: "maybe it will be enough to deal with baltology?" If we are the electorate in the literal sense of the word, then in the upcoming elections we must show this, even come and vote for the least evil, because for more serious actions "we have no leader" do not worry, we have more than enough of them (though I will say right away - not Vereshchagin ! He will be found later!) And the liberals are afraid of this! Some of our respected colleagues gave a hint about trade unions, where did you see them in Russia? Strong trade unions do not need power, and no one needs "room" power! And to win, we do not care It can be seen that the boiling point has not yet reached and believe the authorities have already understood this, it is important not to miss the "moment of bleeding off steam". And the "fifth column" as soon as it feels, will run away "from the watch home" that's just a way to return the "acquired" to the state treasury overwork "must come up now.