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The gas corridor of Ukraine prevents the EU and the US

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The gas corridor of Ukraine prevents the EU and the US



Events around Ukraine, which began at the end of November 2013, look in many ways familiar and familiar. And on the Russian events 2011-2013's, and on the events of the "Arab spring" in the Middle East.

A fair protest of people is skillfully directed in the right direction, and the next “bloody regime” (in the Ukrainian interpretation - “malicious wickedness”) becomes the aim of the raging stream, after the crash of which comes a happy and prosperous European life. Freedom, equality and fraternity - everything is as it should be. With these naive dreams, people went out to Tahrir, Taksim, and now to Independence Square. Even those who cut their heads in Syria also have their own dream, and, probably, bright and sublime.

But, as it always happens, each crystal dream has one unpleasant quality - fragility. After it is incarnated, revolutionaries suddenly find themselves close to its fragments and the country that has been polished to the basalt layer. And the fruits of the work of their hands are completely different people. And, as a rule, they are sitting far from the places of revolutionary upheavals.

The point, of course, is not the worldwide conspiracy, the Rothschild-Rockefellers who were hidden in their dens. The point is in the objective and completely indifferent to the fate of people processes that unite the events taking place in such different and completely different countries and regions like Ukraine, the Middle East, Central Asia or Russia.

It seems that we are on the verge of ending the era of oil as the main source of energy. While outstanding minds argue about how much of it remains in the depths and how terrible the end of mankind will be due to the exhaustion of oil wells, life has already answered this question.

If in the 70s of the last century, the share of oil in the global fuel balance reached almost 50%, now it is only one third, and by the year 2030 is not expected to exceed 28%

At the same time, nobody solemnly launches thermonuclear power stations, photon engines do not install cars and myriads of devices on an anti-gravity pad do not fly in the air. Everything remains the same, only the share of gas in all balances is growing steadily. Its production, consumption, transportation grow.

We did not notice how the oil era has already changed gas. In the same way, as they had previously quietly stopped burning coal, they switched to fuel oil, and before that, they replaced firewood with coal. Life does not like sudden movements at all. The moment - and we live in a different reality, it is rather the plot for the film. “Honey, I want to edit,” as the heroine of the beautiful film “The Man from Boulevard Capuchin” said.
So what has this to do with Ukraine, the Middle East or Russia?

The global economy requires the creation of a global gas market with all the necessary attributes, the main of which is equal and general access to the main product on the market

The paradox is that there is gas, but there is no market yet. More precisely, there are a number of local regional markets, the conditions on which differ by several times. If you look at prices, the imbalances are visible to the naked eye: in Japan, almost $ 600 is paid for a thousand cubic meters of gas, and across the ocean, in America, around $ 200. The situation is absolutely scandalous for almost the main energy carrier and therefore requiring its solution. Having understood this, one can assume where the countries listed above will go further. Where are the "bloody regimes" that in the near future will begin to overthrow the masses, striving for freedom.


Sechin: Rosneft prepares gas strategy for at least 30 years


The global gas market includes not only its fields, but also transportation routes. A new redivision of the world is taking place before our eyes, and as a result of this unusual war without a thousand-kilometer fronts, tank wedges and air fleets, the winners in it will eventually establish a new world order, in which they will write down the rules that determine the operating conditions of the new global market and all its participants.

Ukraine, like Syria, is one of the most important transport corridors through which gas enters (or should be in) the largest European market. The interests of the three largest regional gas transmission projects - the Egyptian AGP, Iranian Iran - Iraq - Syria and Qatari in the direction of the same Syrian Baniyas clashed in Syria. At stake in this war are huge money that will receive (or lose) two gas producers - Qatar and Iran. This explains the bitterness that is so uncharacteristic of the Arab wars. The intervention of Saudi Arabia in it is dictated by the fear of the Al Saud dynasty before the strengthening of Iran and the inevitable collapse of the entire Saudi project, based on the oil of the past.

Russia, even with the North and South “Stream” built and launched, still needs and will need a Ukrainian corridor

The same can be explained and fierce battle for Ukraine, which unfolds before our eyes. Russia, even with the streams built and launched by Severny and Yuzhny, still needs and will need a Ukrainian corridor. Both Flows are only an argument in a dispute with the Ukrainian elite, which for 20 has not come to create its own project of independence over the years, for which reason it cannot decide on priorities and orientation, reducing its existence to the current survival and total plunder of its own country.

Europe and the United States (each of which in its own way) have the opposite opinion about the Ukrainian corridor. In their plans, Russia has been assigned the role of a submissive supplier, and the collaborationist government in Kiev, like the European Energy Charter, are instruments of struggle against Russia. The battle in which she must admit defeat and agree to the conditions of the winners.


The head of the Bosnian canton Sarajevo resigned amid massive protests


The Euroassociation, whose accession has not signed Yanukovych, has already brought a catastrophe to the countries of Eastern Europe.
Right now in Sarajevo, the Bosnians are protesting against the terrible situation in which they found themselves, having bought the same enticing slogans and proposals, but for which Bosnia and Herzegovina paid off almost scorched earth, ruined economy and unemployment, reaching 40%. No better situation in Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, the Baltic States. Everywhere Europe comes in the same way - through the destruction of local industry and the clearing of territory for its goods. The fate of "not fitting into the market" is the same everywhere and does not interest anyone.

The Euro-Association, whose accession documents were never signed by Yanukovych, has already brought a catastrophe to the countries of Eastern Europe

However, this does not stop the Ukrainians. 20 years of brainwashing, which work about a thousand non-profit organizations receiving grants in the West, the destruction of education and culture, resulting in total population degradation, endless elite wars and the image of the enemy in the face of the "northeastern empire", really dreaming to enslave free Ukrainians — all of this works for a single goal and represents the shock armies of the ongoing mental war.


The EU did not take measures of economic assistance to Kiev in exchange for signing an association agreement


Heroic lads and girls who overthrow the “evil master” naively believe that they bring the kingdom of freedom and liberation from the yoke of the “Muscovites” closer, however, as usual, even if a miracle happens and they win, they will all wake up there too. , but instead of “Bandyget” they will be ruled by outspoken collaborators with foreign passports, who are hard pressed to pick up the words for “read news”. One such has already managed them from 2005 to 2010 year. More precisely, he himself was ruled by a dashing spouse with the correct American passport and labor biography in the special services of the superpower. Now even this option is redundant: a person who has 20 years of traumatized his head with high sporting achievements is offered to the post of the country's leader.

The outcome of the war for Ukraine should be Western control over the Ukrainian transit corridor and a serious weakening of Russia's position in gas disputes with Europe. For Europe, this is a tactical task that allows it to dictate its conditions and its prices for the most important energy carrier. For the United States, undermining Russia's position is important in the global game they lead around China. In Ukraine, these interests came together, but the interest of the Ukrainian people in these interests is not visible. He is only a resource in the fight. The tool with which to demolish the "evil" power. As if the new will be something better.
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 14 February 2014 07: 05
    +2
    After South Stream, South Stream 2 must be built.
    1. smel
      smel 14 February 2014 07: 49
      +23
      Friends do not have to lose. This is first and foremost. And to build something - in the second. Yes, and with enemies behave accordingly, and not flirt and look into the eyes
      1. rereture
        rereture 14 February 2014 08: 42
        +9
        Do not be naive, there are no friends in foreign policy, only temporary partners.
        1. Magadan
          Magadan 14 February 2014 09: 43
          +21
          Ukraine is not a foreign policy. This is our historical Russia. Ukraine is us, only in another state.
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 14 February 2014 10: 06
            +10
            Western Ukrainians (well, as Ukrainians) are not characterized by imperial thinking, in the empire they lived a stranger to them, where they were not considered either as 1st-class people (Germans and Hungarians), or 2nd-class people (Croats), so they do not think in terms of geopolitics They don’t plan life for years, etc. They need to survive here and now. Do not earn, so extort. Do not extort, so steal. If you and your godfather do not have the ability to steal more than someone, then you yell that such a gang to get.

            Such a consciousness allows you to receive pennies from the enemies of not only your country, but also yours, so that both the country and you will feel bad later. After all, you will die tomorrow, and money is needed today.
            1. washi
              washi 14 February 2014 14: 29
              +7
              Quote: Nikolai S.
              Western Ukrainians (well, as Ukrainians) are not characterized by imperial thinking, in the empire they lived a stranger to them, where they were not considered either as 1st-class people (Germans and Hungarians), or 2nd-class people (Croats), so they do not think in terms of geopolitics They don’t plan life for years, etc. They need to survive here and now. Do not earn, so extort. Do not extort, so steal. If you and your godfather do not have the ability to steal more than someone, then you yell that such a gang to get.

              Such are ALL Europeans (serfdom came to us from them) and Asians (worship of power).
              We, Russians, are the last who do not live in the western or eastern matrix (unfortunately this applies only to the lower classes and the very top - GDP).
              We have our own way. This is the union of the planet and access to the stars. (the only nation that can accept and interact with aliens (well, but good) is Russian).
              The Chinese understand this.
              And also in Russian справедливость in blood.
              And the most unscrupulous are impudent. And the Jews.
          2. 31231
            31231 14 February 2014 13: 32
            +4
            Ukraine is not a foreign policy. This is our historical Russia. Ukraine is us, only in another state.

            These are just pathos words. And the leadership of Ukraine has already shown that Russia needs the South Stream. And the GTS of Ukraine is needed only by Ukraine itself.
            I less and less believe that adequate power will appear in Kiev and the South Stream is simply necessary.
          3. washi
            washi 14 February 2014 14: 12
            +5
            Quote: Magadan
            Ukraine is not a foreign policy. This is our historical Russia. Ukraine is us, only in another state.

            Beautiful words. But.
            We are the whole coast of the Varangian Sea. This is the Russian sea. These are the Eskimos and Ainu. This is the WHOLE World.
            From this world we must make our world
            1. cdrt
              cdrt 14 February 2014 19: 38
              0
              Quote: Vasya
              Quote: Magadan
              Ukraine is not a foreign policy. This is our historical Russia. Ukraine is us, only in another state.

              Beautiful words. But.
              We are the whole coast of the Varangian Sea. This is the Russian sea. These are the Eskimos and Ainu. This is the WHOLE World.
              From this world we must make our world


              and why did the Eskimos then become us? laughing
              1. abdrah
                abdrah 15 February 2014 03: 51
                0
                and why did the Eskimos then become us?

                - You are right "Nemirnye chukchi" - 250 years ago Russia recognized the senselessness of the Russian-Chukchi war.
          4. ele1285
            ele1285 14 February 2014 15: 13
            +2
            Quote: Magadan
            Ukraine is us, only in another state.

            Since Ukraine is us, but in another state, it turns out that this state simply occupied us. And the invaders need to be destroyed.
          5. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 14 February 2014 17: 40
            0
            Quote: Magadan
            Ukraine is not a foreign policy. This is our historical Russia. Ukraine is us, only in another state.


            Do you also have your own Magadan in the states? laughing
          6. alexdol
            alexdol 14 February 2014 21: 51
            0
            Magadan (1) US "This is our Historical Rus. Ukraine is us, only in another state."

            I agree with you, but not quite! The phrase "only in another state" is superfluous here! Let's honestly admit that there is no "Ukraine" and never has been. Ukraine, as a "state", exists only because Russia, or rather the Russian government, ALLOWS it! Let's remember a little history, how it all happened. After the "Jewish" revolution of 1917, Russia was transformed into the USSR with the division of the field of the Russian People into THREE parts !!! It was then that this MINA of slow action was already laid! Today it WORKED! Yes, the enemies are trying with all their might to separate us, to change the mentality, and, unfortunately, they succeed ... But let's remember how Bismarck spoke about us:

            Once the "iron" chancellor Bismarck, a sophisticated politician and perspicacious man, built his entire political strategy solely on the fact that Russia is invincible ...
            "Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the decay of the main force of Russia, which is based on millions of Russians proper ... These latter, even if they are dismembered by INTERNATIONAL treatises, rejoin each other as quickly as particles of a cut piece of mercury. indestructible state of the Russian nation, strong in its climate, in its spaces and limited needs ... "

            So said Bismarck about us! But looking at the current course of events, one gets the feeling: was the great politician wrong?
          7. nnz226
            nnz226 14 February 2014 23: 06
            +2
            when "Historical Rus" merges with Russia - it will become "we"! In the meantime .... What the authorities in Kiev are up to is gloomy ... It is enough that the "exploits" of Bandera, UPAshists, etc. are officially promoted. The power that recognizes such ghouls is not ours! And they are nobody to us.
        2. seller trucks
          seller trucks 14 February 2014 09: 50
          +2
          Russia, even with the North and South “Stream” built and launched, still needs and will need a Ukrainian corridor


          in fact, Europe needs gas, without our gas it will be extremely cold for them, and here it seems to me that it is not the GTS pipe itself that is more interesting, but the Ukrainian gas storage facilities. And the streams "northern" and "southern" are vital to build our eastern partner, which is painfully unreliable.
          1. 31231
            31231 14 February 2014 13: 36
            +1
            I completely agree. With such a partner as the current leadership of Ukraine, not many will want to work. And South Stream is necessary. As well as laying the pipe east to China and Korea.
            1. Vasek
              Vasek 14 February 2014 18: 26
              +1
              Quote: 31231
              And the streams "northern" and "southern" are vital to build the painfully unreliable in our country eastern partner


              Quote: 31231
              I totally agree. With a partner like the current leadership of Ukraine, not many will have a desire to work.


              Why "oriental"? recourse
              1. 31231
                31231 14 February 2014 19: 21
                0
                Why "oriental"?


                Why this question to me?
                seller trucks (1)  Today, 09:50 ↑
                And the streams "northern" and "southern" it is vitally necessary to build our eastern partner, which is painfully unreliable.

                Although for some reason I decided that the respected Celer Trucks speaks of Ukraine as an Eastern partner.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 14 February 2014 19: 59
        -3
        Quote: smel
        Friends do not have to lose. This is first and foremost. And to build something - in the second. Yes, and with enemies behave accordingly, and not flirt and look into the eyes


        It’s better to have such friends as Ukrainian in enemies, and it is not a pity to lose even more so.
      3. Cherdak
        Cherdak 14 February 2014 23: 21
        +2
        Quote: smel
        Yes, and with enemies behave accordingly, and not flirt and look into the eyes


        And behind the rotten bazaar, the thieves ’answer was no longer kept?
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 14 February 2014 08: 58
      +4
      This is a frank provocation at the borders of Russia, and you can’t just look and resent, you need to act!
      1. Cherdak
        Cherdak 14 February 2014 23: 27
        +1


        ShturmKGB
        This is a frank provocation at the borders of Russia

        Arrange a show for maydanschikov. But then 20 years have passed ... and again
    3. Zhaman-Urus
      Zhaman-Urus 14 February 2014 09: 42
      +19
      It is not necessary to build a "Stream" but to build factories for this money. agricultural complexes are inexpensive housing for the Russians - then for Russia the problem of gas delivery to Europe will not be a problem at all. More precisely, it will become a European problem)
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 14 February 2014 10: 14
        +5
        Meanwhile, in Ukraine:

        Naftogaz of Ukraine is forced to restrict gas supplies to the regions of the country that have the largest debt for fuel. This was reported in the press service of the corporation.

        "The company sent telegrams to the heads of the regions with the greatest gas consumption arrears (Vinnytsia, Zhytomyr, Zaporozhye, Lvov, Chernigov, Cherkasskaya, Kherson, Sumy, Odessa, Volynskaya and Kirovograd), and reported that gas supplies are preventively limited to the technological minimum due to violation of the terms of contracts and the accumulation of significant debt "


        Ukraine's debt for Russian gas rose to $ 3,35 billion

        Large Russian companies operating in Ukraine received a command from Moscow to carry out all settlements and withdraw money from the country within ten days.


        "In Moscow, they believe that in two weeks Ukraine will be overtaken by default. Until that time, it is necessary to withdraw all funds from here," said the source of LB.ua.


        Last week, Ukrainian banks began to gradually increase (by 1-2%) interest on short-term hryvnia deposits of the population. To date, they have already reached 18% and continue to increase. At the same time, the profitability of long-term (from 12 months) deposits and foreign currency deposits has not yet changed - 18% per annum in hryvnia and 8% per annum in dollar on average in the market. According to the NBU, in January, Ukrainians took away deposits of 15,1 billion UAH (by 2,3%, up to 653,4 billion hryvnia). Experts believe that the panic was caused by the expectation of a ban on early termination of contracts.


        The IMF and Ukraine's "partners" from the EU, loans, without observing the previously stated conditions, will not give what they have repeatedly stated. It can be stated that this is a large (____! ____)
        1. washi
          washi 14 February 2014 14: 53
          -2
          Quote: seller trucks
          Naftogaz of Ukraine is forced to restrict gas supplies to the regions of the country that have the largest debt for fuel. This was informed in the press service of the corporation. "The company sent telegrams to the heads of the regions with the greatest debts for gas consumption (Vinnytsia, Zhytomyr, Zaporozhye, Lvov, Chernigov, Cherkasskaya, Kherson, Sumy, Odessa, Volyn and Kirovograd), and reported that that gas supplies are preventively limited to the technological minimum due to violation of the terms of contracts and the accumulation of significant debt "

          I liked it.
          These are areas that have not been denied to nationalists.
          I agree that there is a debt in these areas, but to whom and to whom?
          Naftogaz is a Yulina company
          People pay, and enterprises must be closed.
          It is their owners who hold the Maidan.
          The strike against the Maidan. Then we redeem on the cheap and work.
          It is necessary to support the workers (not to be confused with "hamsters") with finances while they are fighting the Nazis.
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 14 February 2014 15: 09
          +2
          Quote: seller trucks
          The IMF and Ukraine's "partners" from the EU, loans, without observing the previously stated conditions, will not give what they have repeatedly stated. It can be stated that this is a large (____! ____)

          Good afternoon, Vitaliy!
          Right now, I looked at the TVTs story "Walk-Pole" from the journalist Novikova. Everything is in the subject. But the phrase sounded that English Guardian called the exact date for TOTAL DEFAULT of Ukraine - March 1 of this year. And then the BATTLE will begin.
          1. Cherdak
            Cherdak 14 February 2014 16: 33
            +1
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            The exact deadline for TOTAL DEFAULT of Ukraine is March 1 of this year.

            And then the rule comes into effect: "Whoever dared, he ate"?
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 14 February 2014 18: 38
              +2
              Quote: Cherdak
              And then the rule comes into effect: "Who dared, he ate"?

              I want to believe in the best ... And prepare for the worst wassat
      2. VAF
        VAF 14 February 2014 12: 52
        +4
        Quote: Zhaman-Urus
        It is not necessary to build a "Stream" but to build factories for this money. agricultural complexes are inexpensive housing for the Russians - then for Russia the problem of gas delivery to Europe will not be a problem at all.


        He said beautifully and competently, +! drinks

        Quote: Zhaman-Urus
        More precisely, it will become a European problem)


        And they don’t need it ... since their children are. Wives. And many relatives have been living and studying there for a long time, and real estate and real estate with denyushki are all there.
        And if there is a problem for Europe, then Europe and them .. 2 can arrange a "problem wassat
        Do you need them? tongue
        That's how we live request WTO + GMOs wassat
        1. dropout
          dropout 14 February 2014 13: 57
          +8
          Quote: vaf
          That's how we live the WTO + GMOs



          The basic law of organic chemistry:
          If you mix 1 kg of jam and 1 kg of homna, you get 2 kg of homna.
      3. 31231
        31231 14 February 2014 13: 41
        +1
        It is not necessary to build a "Stream" but to build factories for this money. agricultural complexes are inexpensive housing for the Russians - then for Russia the problem of gas delivery to Europe will not be a problem at all. More precisely, it will become a European problem)

        You mixed warm with salty.
        Gazprom is not engaged in the construction of housing for the population. He is building his production facilities. Whether it is a linear part or gas fields. And constantly losing money on freeloaders in the leadership of Ukraine and Naftogaz is incredible stupidity. Not Russia should lose from the independence and Svidomo of the Ukrainian leadership, but Ukraine itself.
        Your Kazakh leadership is also looking for ways to diversify oil and builds them, for less dependence on Russian pipelines.
      4. washi
        washi 14 February 2014 14: 42
        0
        Quote: Zhaman-Urus
        It is not necessary to build a "Stream" but to build factories for this money. agricultural complexes are inexpensive housing for the Russians - then for Russia the problem of gas delivery to Europe will not be a problem at all. More precisely, it will become a European problem)

        At the beginning, the base, i.e. restoration of production for "streams" (taking into account new technologies and acquired finances), then for the military-industrial complex (which includes too much), Then, or at the same time, the transition to the next stage - outstripping, will include (already includes) the development of real production east of the Urals ..
        There is a burden - skolkovo.
        There is real funding and development.
      5. washi
        washi 14 February 2014 14: 42
        0
        Quote: Zhaman-Urus
        It is not necessary to build a "Stream" but to build factories for this money. agricultural complexes are inexpensive housing for the Russians - then for Russia the problem of gas delivery to Europe will not be a problem at all. More precisely, it will become a European problem)

        At the beginning, the base, i.e. restoration of production for "streams" (taking into account new technologies and acquired finances), then for the military-industrial complex (which includes too much), Then, or at the same time, the transition to the next stage - outstripping, will include (already includes) the development of real production east of the Urals ..
        There is a burden - skolkovo.
        There is real funding and development.
    4. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 14 February 2014 10: 55
      0
      hi For a long time would reconcile on the Maidan of Svidomo and put up a monument to the Big Three? Adolfus, Mussolini and Bandera ...... ??? what is the problem ?
    5. demel2
      demel2 14 February 2014 13: 31
      0
      Better tank stream 2 on the geyropu.
    6. AVV
      AVV 14 February 2014 22: 30
      0
      Quote: Igor39
      After South Stream, South Stream 2 must be built.

      Or the Caspian gas flow and pump gas from Iran to the west, for our goods to Iran, this is also one of the options for the gas to go not through Turkey, but through us !!!
    7. nnz226
      nnz226 14 February 2014 23: 03
      0
      Nord Stream No. 2,3 will be cheaper: the Baltic Sea is not so deep and aggressive (there is no hydrogen sulfide saturation of water after 70 meters (approximately) depth ... Again, Germany gets stuck on any sprats, they will fade ...
    8. abdrah
      abdrah 15 February 2014 03: 48
      0
      Igor39 - "After South Stream, we need to build South Stream 2."

      After South Stream (or maybe instead of) it would be more expedient to build East Stream 1,2,3, etc.
  2. Neophyte
    Neophyte 14 February 2014 07: 39
    +8
    The article is wonderful, there are no words. The political economy is set out exhaustively, but
    I would like to know what steps Russia is taking in view of the growing
    gas war with the EU. What are the next threats and further to be addressed
    Russia in these difficult conditions? How will it be possible to stabilize
    troubles in Ukraine? Eternal concessions and subsidies? Hardly?
    If Ukraine was an amorphous country like Bulgaria, or what?
    But, after all, the ideas of independence have been raging in Ukraine since the 18th century, and now,
    claims for Russia increased over the past 23 years threaten to destroy
    union of three Slavic states \ Belarus is still holding thanks to Lukashenko \. Russia needs to intensify integration policy, but
    do it persistently and with the use of economic leverage.
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    2. alexng
      alexng 14 February 2014 08: 14
      +7
      Quote: Neophyte
      .. but I would like to know what steps Russia is taking in view of the growing
      gas war with the EU.


      We will find out very soon, i.e. immediately after the Olympics. I think that Russia has prepared autumn an ​​unpleasant surprise for Europe and arrogant Saxons.
      1. demel2
        demel2 14 February 2014 13: 42
        0
        Too many problems remain, so the Olympics will end, is it possible to deal with Ukraine, with terrorists, with the segeyropoy. Are there too many?
        1. Poppy
          Poppy 14 February 2014 15: 10
          +1
          friendly, don't worry
        2. Victor
          Victor 14 February 2014 16: 32
          0
          Quote: demel2
          Too many problems remain, so the Olympics will end, is it possible to deal with Ukraine, with terrorists, with the segeyropoy. Are there too many?

          It was much harder for us during the first and second Chechen wars. No army, no economy, no finance! But Russia survived! Now it’s easier. Shujim! soldier
      2. Victor
        Victor 14 February 2014 16: 30
        0
        Quote: alexneg
        We will find out very soon, i.e. immediately after the Olympics. I think that Russia has prepared autumn an ​​unpleasant surprise for Europe and arrogant Saxons.

        Most likely, you are right. The expectant and even quiet position of Russia in relation to events in Ukraine was directly related to the start of the Olympics, around which there was a frenzied descriptional company led by SyShyAka and the gay leaders. The thought, like you, that the main events and the position of Russia will sharply appear after the closure of the OI. We need to wait a bit.
    3. avt
      avt 14 February 2014 08: 43
      +2
      Quote: Neophyte
      I would like to know what steps Russia is taking in view of the growing
      gas war with the EU.

      Well, judging by the latest negotiations with the EU on "streams", rather the EU is preparing for a war in Ukraine - "Northern" is practically unblocked, and now there is a conversation on "Yuzhny".
      1. Armata
        Armata 14 February 2014 10: 49
        +3
        Quote: avt
        and on "Yuzhny" now the conversation is underway.
        Does not go. The fact is that we have developed a hydro mechanism for remotely closing gate valves. Duck, only this year we have an order for 300 pieces, the next one is 600, etc. As I read the article, I immediately went to the designers and technologists and found out how things are going on on this project. The budget will be listed in May. The Germans and Italians will actively participate. Italians almost for nothing give their equipment for us.
        1. washi
          washi 14 February 2014 14: 59
          +1
          Quote: Mechanic
          Quote: avt
          and on "Yuzhny" now the conversation is underway.
          Does not go. The fact is that we have developed a hydro mechanism for remotely closing gate valves. Duck, only this year we have an order for 300 pieces, the next one is 600, etc. As I read the article, I immediately went to the designers and technologists and found out how things are going on on this project. The budget will be listed in May. The Germans and Italians will actively participate. Italians almost for nothing give their equipment for us.

          Sorry, but where is the patent. And whose will he be?
          I read about such a mechanism two or three years ago (in Russian development).
          Again, most likely, you laughed
        2. avt
          avt 14 February 2014 15: 27
          +1
          Quote: Mechanic
          Does not go.
          Well no . it suits itself quite well, but there the EU will play its third energy package until the last, and there is a reason - Azerbaijani gas. It will simply be more difficult there than with the Northern one.
    4. demon184
      demon184 14 February 2014 09: 51
      +7
      Russia, as always on the defensive, then Syria needs to be saved either Ukraine or Serbia about Moldova, we don’t even remember whether it’s time to go on the offensive, we must support the separatists in Europe and the USA so that they have something to do at home and not poke their nose into strangers business. the best way to defend it is to attack.
      1. alexng
        alexng 14 February 2014 09: 59
        -1
        Aha! And with the slogans "Sala Ukraine and bandeplogues too sala!" laughing
        1. washi
          washi 14 February 2014 15: 02
          +1
          Quote: alexneg
          Aha! And with the slogans "Sala Ukraine and bandeplogues too sala!" laughing

          Stupidly and not funny.
          If there are no thoughts, then it is better not to write.
          And if you want ratings, all the more
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 14 February 2014 15: 13
            +3
            Quote: Vasya
            If there are no thoughts, then it is better not to write.
            And if you want ratings, all the more

            Vasya...
            Well, do not try to run into our veterans (as well as Mechanics). Everything is SMART here.
            More modest, quieter, silent ...
            You look - you will marry a smart laughing
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 14 February 2014 15: 26
              0
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Well, do not try to run into our veterans

              What hazing? All in the penal battalion.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 14 February 2014 16: 17
                +2
                Quote: Setrac
                What hazing? All in the penal battalion.

                Did you have to declare a TROLL?
        2. avt
          avt 14 February 2014 16: 23
          0
          Quote: alexneg
          And with the slogans "Sala Ukraine and bandeplogues too sala!"

          ,, Sala heroes? Herimsala! "
      2. alexng
        alexng 14 February 2014 09: 59
        +1
        Aha! And with the slogans "Sala Ukraine and bandeplogues too sala!" laughing
    5. avg
      avg 14 February 2014 10: 34
      +2
      Quote: Neophyte
      The article is wonderful, no words.

      I especially liked the phrase
      Now even this option is redundant: they offer a person who has injured his head with high sports achievements for 20 years as the head of the country.

      Nevertheless, in the language of satire, one can try to open the eyes of some, underestimated. laughing
    6. Vasek
      Vasek 14 February 2014 20: 08
      0
      Quote: Neophyte
      but
      I would like to know what steps Russia is taking in view of the growing
      gas war with the EU.


      Here (from the news):

      The Russian Foreign Ministry is at a loss for Kiev’s remarks to the Russian ambassador about his opinion on the federalization of Ukraine

      "within the framework of the political science discussion, an opinion was expressed, and with reference to the assessments of Ukrainian politicians, about the ongoing crisis processes in Ukraine and, most importantly, the actual facts from the current Ukrainian reality, in particular, the creation of parallel power structures in a number of regions of the country, were not subordinate to the central authorities, which can be interpreted as signs of the process of federalization of Ukraine "

      Probably preparing to share ...
      Otherwise, only the Army will be able to unite.
      And these are inevitable victims, and there is no leader in the Army (as in Egypt, for example).
      It is regrettable, of course, but, as Nezabvenny said: "In order to unite, one must first properly dissociate oneself."
  3. nokki
    nokki 14 February 2014 07: 40
    +8
    Instead of all these flows, wouldn't it be better to carry out the operation (almost according to Serafimovich!) "Iron Stream" once?
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 14 February 2014 08: 15
      +18
      ... and then wash your boots in the Atlantic, sit on the shore of Cape Fenestrele, exhale and with the words "done with n ... mi" a relaxing smile ... soldier
      1. avg
        avg 14 February 2014 11: 22
        +2
        Then get up, straighten the belt and shake your fist at the setting sun and say: “Are you mattresses, think, how do you always sit overseas? So this time it won’t work out, your mother ... ”And spit on the palm of your hand to transgress to the preparation of ferry facilitiessad
  4. haron
    haron 14 February 2014 07: 55
    +2
    "... The European Association, the accession documents to which Yanukovych never signed, has already brought a catastrophe to the countries of Eastern Europe .."
    And I did not know that in eastern Europe they were expecting Ukraine as a liberator from the disaster. Do not so loudly raise the role of Ukraine, otherwise God forbid they imagine themselves to be saviors of the world laughing
    It is clear that with a controlled pipeline it is easier to speak with Russia, but this does not mean a vital aspect for Europe - it seems that everything has happened somehow up to now.

    Yes, Ukraine is important in many ways.
    1. Pipeline.
    2. eastern complex of enterprises.
    3. Sow rapeseed land.
    4. hard workers to build everything that is possible in the west and in the east.
    5. Women rub the floors, take care of the elderly and not so in the west.
    6. Sevastopol (and nothing more, as an opportunity to disengage army bases).

    You can continue the list.
    1. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 14 February 2014 09: 58
      +4
      haron
      "... The European Association, the accession documents to which Yanukovych never signed, has already brought a catastrophe to the countries of Eastern Europe .."
      ... Do not so loudly raise the role of Ukraine, otherwise God forbid they imagine themselves to be saviors of the world

      Then why in the entire history of the land of Ukraine were for the European conquerors "a tasty morsel"! And why then and now Europe and the United States "day and night" on the Maidan. (probably from "bashful" altruism love)
      1. haron
        haron 14 February 2014 11: 38
        +3
        Quote: vlad.svargin
        Then why in the entire history of the lands of Ukraine were for the European conquerors "a tasty morsel"

        We are talking a little about different things.
        Nobody understates the importance of Ukraine as a geopolitical bridgehead, but the fact that Ukraine has brought disaster in Europe by not joining it is too much.
        I consider Ukraine for Europe in several aspects.
        1. Gas transmission system. Europe and Russia are on the way here, the first need stable supplies of any amount of gas, the second need stable sales. Opponents of this union are probably the United States and the Saudis = certain individuals in Europe tied to the first group.
        2. Cheap labor. Up to the construction of production facilities. An alternative to snickering China. (Romanians and Bulgarians do not deliver anything good besides cygan). Metallurgy and the chemical industry spoils European ecology, and it’s a little expensive to feed European hard workers.
        3. Earth. The Chinese are already starting to rent space. Although in Europe there is also an overproduction of agricultural products, they would have shoved the cultivation of industrial crops into a square. (in the Czech Republic, Brussels prohibits the use of areas to the fullest, about 30% of the land is fed only by cattle, which also have nowhere to put too much).
        4. IMHO another aspect would be in the plans. Cram various types of power plants in Ukraine and roll current through wires to Europe.

        None of the items is vital, and it’s naive to talk about saving Europe from Ukraine by Ukraine.
        1. family tree
          family tree 14 February 2014 20: 54
          +4
          Quote: haron
          Nobody understates the importance of Ukraine as a geopolitical bridgehead, but the fact that Ukraine has brought disaster in Europe by not joining it is too much.

          ...Euroassociation(comma), documents on accession to which Yanukovych never signed, (comma) already brought disaster to the countries of Eastern Europe .."

          Explain to me, dumb, where is it written about Ukraine’s involvement in the disaster? what
          1. haron
            haron 15 February 2014 07: 44
            -1
            I explain.
            Below is an excerpt from the text.
            "... The European Association, the accession documents to which Yanukovych never signed, has already brought a catastrophe to the countries of Eastern Europe .."
            Again the difference in vision.
            You think that there is a catastrophe, so to speak.
            I believe that there is no disaster, there is a crisis. What does this crisis in the countries of eastern Europe concern more with Bulgaria, Romania, possibly the Baltic. The rest of them lived 10 years ago. Nobody pisses past the toilets, the janitor does not sing songs, the surgeons will operate well, etc.

            The catastrophe is now on the Maidan.
            1. family tree
              family tree 16 February 2014 19: 22
              +1
              Quote: haron
              I explain.

              Sorry, I left for work yesterday morning, and returned tonight request weekend, people are resting, and I'm on vacation and on duty.
              So, I’m just rephrasing it to make it clear
              "... The Euroassociation has already brought disaster to the countries of Eastern Europe

              , documents on accession to which Yanukovych never signed,

              I, this, Russian, in general soldier
        2. aksakal
          aksakal 14 February 2014 21: 33
          +1
          Quote: haron
          IMHO another aspect would be in the plans. Cram various types of power plants in Ukraine and roll current through wires to Europe.

          - good afternoon! As for the power plants, you are a little past. Let me explain. I am now negotiating with the Martians, I’ll tell you a secret, Kazakhstan is holding an EXPO exhibition with the theme "Energy of the Future" in 2107, and there is no way to lose face there, you need to show developments in the field of green energy at the global level, and the Martians are ahead of the entire galaxy in areas of solid oxide fuel cells. Here is what one of the Martians writes: Good afternoon, dear Aksakal!
          On behalf of the Chief Scientist Martian I answer you questions on
          state of developments in the field of power plants at SOFC.
          Firstly, I would like to note that consumer expectations and promises
          many developers about the price of 1 kW of electrical power installation on
          SOFC no more than $ 500 is currently very optimistic.
          Secondly, as of the beginning of 2014, according to our current
          information in Europe and Russia solid oxide power plants
          fuel cells (EU-SOFC) are not available on the market. There are offers for sale
          demonstration experimental samples of EU-SOFC for the order.
          Thirdly, according to the results of our developments in 2013 by order of LLC
          "Gazprom transgaz Yekaterinburg" was made an experimental
          EU-SOFC sample with an electric power of 1,5 kW for power supply
          cathodic protection stations. In 2014, he will undergo an experimental
          operation at one of the gas pipeline facilities in the Sverdlovsk region.

          In conclusion, I can offer to consider the option of cooperation on
          conducting R&D according to your technical requirements and / or
          Technical specifications for the power plant. You can send me the main scientific Martian brief technical requirements for the purpose of evaluation
          further ways of interaction.


          Happy New Year! Good luck and prosperity!
          "
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 14 February 2014 21: 35
            +2
            And now let's decipher about the Martian development, in which the Martians are ahead of the entire Galaxy. EI SOFC - solid oxide fuel cells that convert combustion gas directly into electricity with a very high efficiency - almost 90% or more. So far, it's a little expensive for 1 kW of power (it will be about $ 750, that is, a 5 kW installation suitable for use at home will come out at $ 3750, but this is the peak power, when you iron at the same time, the wife turned on the dishwasher, and the daughter decided to wash and turned on the washing machine Then the refrigerator is pulled up, and you are bored to iron for so, you also turned on the TV. So this consumption is only half an hour or an hour, so an installation of 1,5-2 kW + a storage-type battery is enough. In this case, the installation price drops to $ 1500 It is so simple that there is nothing to break there. And the Martians, in spite of the recent crisis that occurred in them, are still leaders in the entire galaxy .... What do I mean at all? El-Murid is right - gas is the fuel of the future. taking into account the aspect that I just described with the Martian products, then you can abandon these power plants. Consider yourself - build a power plant, build a transformer step-up station up to millions of volts, build a bunch of high-voltage power plants. tolbov, upon arrival at the site, build step-down substations up to 6kilovolt TPshek and further .... And losses - almost 50% of the generated power was lost on the way to heating wires and transformers. And how expensive it is! And now gas has been supplied to every house, the infrastructure is ready, the elimination of gas leaks has been exhausted, the population is accustomed to careful handling of gas ... There is almost no gas loss, and the efficiency of the installation is almost 90% !!!! Resident-consumer only needs to spend $ 1500 + the cost of the battery + installation with commissioning. This whole baida will be called a decentralized power supply system. So with power plants you are completely past - there is no point in building them at all, even in Ukraine. And the role of gas in the light of this will grow and grow! The climax of the struggle for all of this lies ahead, so Putin is right in deciding to use 20 trillion rubles to "dry" the gunpowder in Russian powder flasks.
            1. haron
              haron 15 February 2014 07: 53
              0
              aksakal, thank you very much for the educational program.
              If possible, write down what is (EU-SOFC), see the point of view of chemistry, and in what way energy is obtained from it.

              That is, as far as I understand, each apartment has its own power station?

              Sincerely.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 15 February 2014 10: 09
                0
                Quote: haron
                That is, as far as I understand, each apartment has its own power station?
                - correctly understood. From the point of view of chemistry, the gas entering the device with the help of a catalyst (usually fechral) decomposes into so-called synthesis gas, that is, the combination of hydrogen and carbon, which is actually a gas, turns into a mixture of carbon monoxide CO and free hydrogen. This usually involves increased security measures, usually increased tightness of the device and others. This synthesis gas, more precisely, its component in the form of free hydrogen (remember that hydrogen is just a proton with an electron, after splitting it is a set of protons and electrons, and electricity is the ordered movement of charged particles, respectively - a fuel cell is a form combustion of hydrogen without the formation of heat, and with the formation of electricity) burns in oxygen immediately with the formation of electricity. It remains to burn carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide and throw it into the atmosphere. Here the environmental component is strong, and here there are great difficulties in R&D - it is necessary to ensure one hundred percent safety of this process. But it is easier than to defend oneself in the event of such a dangerous process as radioactive decay. Therefore, I am skeptical about the future of nuclear energy, but gas is the fuel of the future. In any case, the nearest.
                After condensing hydrogen, water should be condensed into a special container - distilled water will also work on the farm.
    2. washi
      washi 14 February 2014 15: 04
      +1
      Quote: haron
      Yes, Ukraine is important in many ways. 1. Pipeline. 2. eastern complex of enterprises. 3. Sow rapeseed. 4. hard workers to build everything that is possible in the west and in the east. 5. Women to scrub floors, care for the elderly and not so in the west. 6. Sevastopol (and nothing more, as an opportunity to disengage army bases).

      I agree.
      I will not comment. And so everything is clear.
  5. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 14 February 2014 08: 15
    +8
    Let me add. Gas prices are linked to oil prices. At least the "gas wars" in Ukraine had such a reason. The conclusion of the contract with Ukraine coincided with high oil prices.
    Quote: Igor39
    After South Stream, South Stream 2 must be built.

    That oil, that gas is not inexhaustible. To increase gas exports at all costs when even in cities gasification is not completely carried out? And the prices for it are unrealistically high. True, who in power thinks about the people? Well, except that Medvedev.
    PSWe give them gas in the pipe, they give us gas in cans for lighters and fresheners. Can you still supply gas directly in cans?
  6. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 14 February 2014 08: 31
    +1
    Quote: haron
    Yes, Ukraine is important in many ways.
    1. Pipeline.
    2. eastern complex of enterprises.
    3. Sow rapeseed land.
    4. hard workers to build everything that is possible in the west and in the east.
    5. Women rub the floors, take care of the elderly and not so in the west.
    6. Sevastopol (and nothing more, as an opportunity to disengage army bases).

    You can continue the list.

    You spar in Russian (to hell with mistakes), that means a smuggler))), or do you say mom took me away?
    Your post resembles the squeals of a jackal from Mowgli, well, or Mein Kampf Hitler in the interpretation of ignoramus. Who are you ? Do you have the power to decide the fate of a nation? Not. The Czech Republic is a flea armpit of a rabid NATO dog, which must be euthanized for a long time, with hygienic goals ((((...
    The opinion of the Khokhlushkas ((I adore their ideal friends and wives (18 years together and still loved)) was especially killed, my friend married her friend on the advice and was glad, and then the Slavic renegade was their slave ...
    Yes, how much to endure something a (((well, really lads - COCKERS rebelled !!!!
    1. rereture
      rereture 14 February 2014 08: 48
      +4
      Comrade haron said everything correctly, no one needs Ukraine as an independent state. And all people rushing to the West will, for the most part, "rub the floors."


      And here you are, old man boor.
      1. Sergey Sitnikov
        Sergey Sitnikov 14 February 2014 09: 05
        -1
        for that, it's not HELL, like some ... from all Western "friends" towards the Russian Federation and Ukraine, disgusting is continuous rushing, ingratiation and tolerance is a latent weakness, go blurt out the gopnik)) - you are wrong, you will spit out the meat grinder right away ...
        One night I had three large dogs, they pressed their backs to the garage, in the private sector (and 100% were home but unchained), guessed to grab a small piece of broken slate from the ground, waved and yelled: I’ll fill up the creatures, they ran away, and with the West, those just mutant rats united in a flock (NATO), and they fled, and derotization is the best way for the Slavs, but you don’t understand (((sorry
        1. rereture
          rereture 14 February 2014 09: 26
          +3
          go over to the gopnik blurt out)) - you are wrong, immediately you will spit out the meat grinder ...


          This is a threat?

          One night, I got three large dogs, they pressed their backs to the garage, in the private sector (moreover, they were 100% domestic but unchained),


          What is this for? Are you a connoisseur of the west? Do you have a professorship as a couch expert?



          Do you have the power to decide the fate of a nation?
          - this is from your previous comment.
          But do you have the power to decide the fate of the nation?

          You take a lot on yourself.
        2. Magadan
          Magadan 14 February 2014 09: 52
          +10
          Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
          for that, it's not HELL, like some ... from all Western "friends" towards the Russian Federation and Ukraine, disgusting is continuous rushing, ingratiating themselves and tolerance



          Do you think the location of the person was determined and that's it? Once with the flag of the Czech Republic, Israel, or like mine, does it mean bastard, devil and tolerast? Since everything is so simple with you, can you remember under what flag the magazine Romanova lives now, the same one that wrote about the "cottage of domestic animals" (about the cemetery for our veterans)? And puski under what flag now? And Mr. Koh, who urges Russian women not to give to Russian men, because they are all "drunkards and losers." Continue the list?
          It doesn’t work out in today's world just like that for the territories to divide. I'm sorry that you have to teach common truths.
          PS And damn it or not, it’s only a normal zone that can be determined. Well, or the Army in a combat situation.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 14 February 2014 12: 29
            0
            Quote: Magadan
            Since the flag of the Czech Republic, Israel, or what’s mine? Does that mean bastard, hell and tolera?

            Add the USA flag here and you will be right. Indicate your place of residence, but for now you are an American, which means an enemy of Russia.
        3. haron
          haron 14 February 2014 12: 29
          +3
          Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
          for damn it, like some ..

          I doubt it very much. if you grew up in the USSR, you should know that being rude, being outside the reach of the interlocutor’s fist, is a sign of a devil and a jackal.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 14 February 2014 12: 40
            -3
            Quote: haron
            I doubt it very much. if you grew up in the USSR, you should know that being rude, being outside the reach of the interlocutor’s fist, is a sign of a devil and a jackal.

            Why is this empty bragging? Your happiness is that you are beyond the reach of the Russian fist. Tell us how the Czech Republic rose by stealing Russian gold! Jackal!
            1. washi
              washi 14 February 2014 15: 28
              +4
              Quote: Setrac
              Why is this empty bragging? Your happiness is that you are beyond the reach of the Russian fist. Tell us how the Czech Republic rose by stealing Russian gold! Jackal!

              And she rose in the production of weapons for Hitler's Germany, and then Israel.
              So what?
              And here is Charon, except for the flag?
              If a person, regardless of nationality and skin color, supports, or at least really appreciates Russia, then he is my friend and brother.
        4. washi
          washi 14 February 2014 15: 17
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
          One night, I got three large dogs, they pressed their backs to the garage, in the private sector (moreover, 100% home but unchained)

          So are you a citizen gopnik, or just a freeloader?
          Or maybe you crow?
          Brothers, what the fuck .... I.
          Well, the fact that kumai mummies flipping through and sewing articles is a habit
          And the fact that pet .. they crow, it's in the bastard

          By the way, my 5 articles in the bazaar, for some reason, are not displayed, but in a personal?
          What concepts should I focus on?
        5. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 14 February 2014 17: 06
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
          derotization

          Rat (English) = "rat", therefore deratization.
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 14 February 2014 09: 57
      +7
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      The opinion of the Khokhlushkas ((I adore their ideal friends and wives (18 years together and still loved)) was especially killed, my friend married her friend on the advice and was glad, and then the Slavic renegade was their slave ...
      Yes, how much to endure something a (((well, really lads - COCKERS rebelled !!!!

      Something I didn’t notice that Charon called "khokhlushek" slaves. I think he said that the West sees them as slaves.
      And you, about PETUKHOV would hold your tongue. These words do not rush. I understand that it’s safe to knock on the clave, but a self-respecting person, all the more, would not have hinted at someone else's cock.
      1. Sergey Sitnikov
        Sergey Sitnikov 14 February 2014 10: 19
        -1
        this is a quote)) from the film with Serebryakov "Fan", and absolutely in the theme of the western dovecote, Damn, in my understanding (I did not sit) - the one who cannot stand up for himself and for his own, and you don’t understand a damn thing - you mold a cliché ( about safe Claudia), in my city (under the USSR), the children immediately knew who the hell and how not to become ..., I express my opinion about the posts and their semantic load, your posts did not resent me and I did not answer, but just you puffed Mentor out of yourself))) blow away already ...
    3. haron
      haron 14 February 2014 11: 57
      +4
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      The opinion of the Khokhlushkas ((I adore their ideal friends and wives (18 years together and still loved)) was especially killed, my friend married her friend on the advice and was glad, and then the Slavic renegade was their slave ...
      Yes, how much to endure something a (((well, really lads - COCKERS rebelled !!!!

      Unlike you, I see Ukrainians from various angles, both as beautiful housewives, women, and as workers in brothels in the Czech Republic and Germany, who earn on the panel to feed their children and parents at home; as cleaners in Czech hospitals (at least 80% of cleaners in Prague clinics), as nannies caring for feeble Italians and Austrians .... There are several million in Europe.
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      Your post resembles the squeals of a jackal from Mowgli, well, or Mein Kampf Hitler in the interpretation of ignoramus. Who are you ? Do you have the power to decide the fate of a nation? No

      When I lived in Ukraine, in order to defend what was left of the union, I cleaned the faces of such boors. But cattle and hamye have the ability to gather in heaps to peck on all sides of the jackal.
      1. washi
        washi 14 February 2014 16: 06
        0
        Quote: haron
        Unlike you, I see Ukrainians from various angles, both as beautiful housewives, women, and as workers in brothels in the Czech Republic and Germany, who earn on the panel to feed their children and parents at home; as cleaners in Czech hospitals (at least 80% of cleaners in Prague clinics), as nannies caring for feeble Italians and Austrians .... There are several million in Europe.

        And if you see everything and everyone, then you can evaluate: from which regions, who does what.
        And compare all this with the Second World War.
        I love statistics.
        1. haron
          haron 14 February 2014 20: 22
          +1
          Quote: Vasya
          And if you see everything and everyone, then you can evaluate: from which regions, who does what.

          Cleaners, babysitters are mainly the west of Ukraine. Transcarpathia, Ivanofrankovsk - Czech Republic. Lviv Exactly, Lutsk - Poland. Chernivtsi - Spain Italy. This is a piling composition. In the same Czech Republic there are representatives of all Ukraine. A man at a construction site 80 percent. The rest is also cleaning, forestry and agriculture.
          Prostitution, here equally all regions and not only Ukraine.
          Russians are more average business or pension in Karlovy Vary. It is clear here, because the very poor (like Ukrainians) do not leave. There are many students from the former - Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Ukraine. Many already remain.
          By the total number in the Czech Republic, the maximum was in 2007-2010. About 250 Ukrainians and up to 000 from other countries of the former.
          It is interesting that the following are Vietnamese - about 70. They were brought to the Amro-Vietnamese for treatment and training, and has been stretching ever since. But there are no problems with them.
          Muslims are mostly "ours" - Kyrgyz, Uzbeks. but they are few.
          The Caucasus survived and tightened. An interesting story was to consolidate the efforts of Ukrainian brothers and the Czech police.

          somewhere like that.
    4. washi
      washi 14 February 2014 15: 09
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      You spar in Russian (hell for mistakes)))), or what do you say your mom took away? Who are you ? Do you have the power to decide the fate of a nation? No. The Czech Republic is a flea armpit of a rabid NATO dog, which must be euthanized for a long time, with hygienic goals ((((...

      Hamlo, try to convince on the basis of DOCUMENTS.
      PI..T DO NOT GRIND BAGS.
      They don’t believe in emotions. Emotions in the struggle are not permissible.
    5. washi
      washi 14 February 2014 15: 09
      0
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      You spar in Russian (hell for mistakes)))), or what do you say your mom took away? Who are you ? Do you have the power to decide the fate of a nation? No. The Czech Republic is a flea armpit of a rabid NATO dog, which must be euthanized for a long time, with hygienic goals ((((...

      Hamlo, try to convince on the basis of DOCUMENTS.
      PI..T DO NOT GRIND BAGS.
      They don’t believe in emotions. Emotions in the struggle are not permissible.
  7. Dimsan
    Dimsan 14 February 2014 08: 47
    +2
    The article is great! thanks to the author !!
  8. I am a Russian
    I am a Russian 14 February 2014 09: 12
    +1
    "Europe and the United States (and each of them in its own way) have exactly the opposite opinion about the Ukrainian corridor."

    Interestingly Ukraine will come on the same rake or not (Bulgaria, Bosnia ....)?

    The situation is no better in Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, the Baltics. Everywhere Europe comes in the same way - through the destruction of local industry and the clearing of territory for its goods. The fate of "those who did not fit into the market" is the same everywhere and does not interest anyone.

    Ukraine as an instrument of struggle with Russia, which means regular Maidan in Kiev is possible.
  9. Woolfy
    Woolfy 14 February 2014 09: 20
    0
    Quote: alexneg
    Quote: Neophyte
    .. but I would like to know what steps Russia is taking in view of the growing
    gas war with the EU.


    We will find out very soon, i.e. immediately after the Olympics. I think that Russia has prepared autumn an ​​unpleasant surprise for Europe and arrogant Saxons.

    I would like ..... Your words, yes to God in ears
  10. Bosk
    Bosk 14 February 2014 09: 50
    +5
    I propose to "drum up" the Russia-Estonia-Latvia-Lithuania-Poland-Europe branch ... and see what happens, although it may not be necessary ... because the Estonian Maidan probably wakes up more terrible than the Ukrainian one ...
    1. Sergey Sitnikov
      Sergey Sitnikov 14 February 2014 10: 32
      +1
      I don’t agree - why bother ordinary people who want heat in the house and who pays for it (if you are talking about a gas pipeline)? It’s just some kind of gesture not from our diplomacy and mentality ...
      As for Estonia and its Maidan - why spoil the beautiful Tallinn? Let's just live, trade, go on a visit, plump, steam, marry between neighbors - in the ass war
    2. 31231
      31231 14 February 2014 13: 50
      0
      Does it make sense to ban the pipe to the Baltic states? They seem to regularly pay for gas at European prices.
      It was the Ukrainian tycoons who "grew their belly" on our gas, taking advantage of Russia's hopelessness. The South Stream of these gentlemen should be put in place.
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 14 February 2014 15: 17
      +3
      Quote: Bosk
      because the Estonian Maidan probably wakes up worse than the Ukrainian ...

      Maidan in slow motion? good
  11. tundra
    tundra 14 February 2014 10: 32
    0
    Quote: Igor39
    After South Stream, South Stream 2 must be built.
    southern to build, there is still work wow.
  12. Aeneas
    Aeneas 14 February 2014 10: 46
    +3
    Murid writes interestingly about the Middle East, and Ukraine has recently become a popular topic. But it seems to me that the importance of Ukraine as a transport corridor is somewhat exaggerated, especially after the commissioning of the Nord Stream and the purchase of the Belarusian GTS by Gazprom. Yes, pumping will be carried out, there is a transit contract until 2019, which is very beneficial to Gazprom, but the political and economic components of this whole operette are forcing Gazprom to build new gas pipelines with huge budgets. In principle, everyone is happy: the Ukrainian power kleptocrats remain sitting on the pipe and with its help "milk" consumers, and Gazprom's contractors allow Gazprom and pro-government managers to earn labor money on the gas giant's transport projects. Basically, Dreams Come True! ...
    1. 31231
      31231 14 February 2014 13: 57
      +2
      Yes, pumping will be carried out, a transit contract is in effect until 2019, which is very beneficial for Gazprom, but the political and economic components of this operetta force Gazprom to build new gas pipelines with huge budgets.


      May I have a closer look? How is it profitable for Gazprom to contract with Naftogaz?
      If it is so profitable, why is Gazprom investing in South Stream?
      You re-read Svidomo sites, where are the fairy tales about the profitability of the Ukrainian rate of 3 excessive dollars for transit justified? Your self-employed people are fighting for gas transit above European prices, but Gazprom is being poured with mud for its European gas prices for Ukraine.
      Do not tell me, in response to a discount for gas, did Naftogaz lower the price for gas transit?
  13. kotvov
    kotvov 14 February 2014 10: 54
    0
    no matter how it was, but Ukraine cannot be surrendered not in the clutches of, enlightened, countries, not under the tutelage of the IMF. loser player, we must look for a thinking leader who understands and worries about Ukraine. maidanutyh and the like are brainwashed you will take from them.
  14. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 14 February 2014 10: 55
    +4
    And what you wanted, today gas is also our weapon, for another 20 years we have grown a little. Only we need to sell it wisely, not for green candy wrappers, but for technologies, finished production in importing countries, attracting foreign capital to develop production (new technologies) in Russia! Engaged in the countries importing Russian gas, oil, the formation of the pro-Russian elite, pro-Russian sentiment. SOMETHING LIKE THAT!
    1. Foxmara
      Foxmara 14 February 2014 21: 33
      0
      here somewhere they brought a picture according to which 2/3 (or 1/3 ??) of roughly what we are buying from China now - equipment. And we are building, we are building .. a new spaceport, new workshops, new factories.
      Tellingly, there was no nationalization, but gas and oil somehow gradually came under the control of the state. Everyone criticizes Serdyukov, but it was under him that they began to restore large military exercises, and there is a version that the "accountant" solved purely accounting issues, namely, redirected cash flows to the needs of the army. That naturally did not like those who used to pull them earlier. And, of course, he was not without sin, but for the fact that he completed the main task - he is not jailed.
  15. Stinger
    Stinger 14 February 2014 11: 00
    +1
    I liked the article. But I think it's too early to write off oil. This is still being burned barbarously, due to the simplicity of generating income. While this is so, no one pays attention to the words of Mendeleev, “to burn oil is the same as to heat the stove with banknotes,” and calmly heat the stove. But in the future, petrochemistry will say its weighty word.
  16. Timekiller
    Timekiller 14 February 2014 12: 34
    +1
    The main gas storages are concentrated in Ukraine. It is too early to write off oil, everything is on the needle, the main thing is not to let the Schells buy up Russian lands. so as not to happen as with Alaska.
  17. Shellback
    Shellback 14 February 2014 12: 45
    +4
    About the lack of influence on the global processes of the global conspiracy of the Rothschild-Rockefellers, as well as the Freemasons, is a big big question. Although, by and large, there is no question here, the answer is obvious: there is a conspiracy, the influence of the Rothschild-Rockefellers and other world Jewish clans on the policy of a global, unipolar world is obvious and does not cause the slightest doubt among specialists. Therefore, IT IS THIS, IT IS THIS. It was the secret conspiracy of bankers (including the Rothschild-Rockefellers) that created the US Federal Reserve exactly 100 years ago, which led to the 2nd World Wars, the 1917 revolution in Russia and many other global events. All the revolutions and coups d'etat of our time are also the intrigues of the world government. The dominance of the dollar, the plundering of weak countries, their wealth, as well as their geographical position is the main priority of the bloodthirsty Anglo-Saxon system, which was built for centuries on these principles and simply cannot exist in any other way. They can only plunder and devastate, and then move to more "fertile" territories, when there is nothing to take from the occupied lands. Only now Russia and the Orthodox Slavs have been like a bone in their throats throughout history. We are robbed and killed, and we are reborn, robbed and killed, and we are reborn again no matter what. Therefore, now Western civilization has a task: to cleanse Russia and Orthodoxy at the root, using the scorched earth method, so that we will never rise again. The West is forced to do this, there is no one else to plunder but us, otherwise it will itself be destroyed, collapse like the Roman Empire, sink into oblivion.
    Everything that is happening now on the planet, in particular around Russia and the post-Soviet space, must be viewed in the context of nothing other than a battle of civilizations, a battle to the death. Everything else is a question of second or even third importance. I'm not talking about the word "democracy", which for me is swearing, a symbol of chaos, blood, civil fratricidal wars, wars for resources, poverty and hunger, as well as a global dictatorship with an electronic chip in everyone's head and a barcode. .. Chances are good that World War III will begin this 2014. The situation is extremely explosive.
    1. vvp2412
      vvp2412 14 February 2014 23: 58
      0
      The author specifically ignored this topic so that the srach in the reviews did not go to hand-to-hand! :)
  18. 31231
    31231 14 February 2014 13: 29
    0
    El-Murid invented another gag in the style of action.

    The outcome of the war for Ukraine should be Western control over the Ukrainian transit corridor and a serious weakening of Russia's position in gas disputes with Europe. For Europe, this is a tactical task that allows it to dictate its conditions and its prices for the most important energy carrier.


    Mr. Murid, completely forgot that the countries of Europe own the GTS passing through Poland, Romania, Slovakia. And where is Gazprom's problem?
    Better to let adequate Europeans own the Ukrainian gas transportation system than the independent and greedy collective farm "Naftogaz". At least they will regularly pay money for consumed gas and set prices for transit adequate.
  19. sxn278619
    sxn278619 14 February 2014 14: 51
    0
    What's worse is letting out a rusty pipe or getting a competitor - LNG gas for $ 200.
    1. 31231
      31231 14 February 2014 15: 59
      +2
      Where is this cheap LNG ?! Did Viti Yanyk last year with the Spanish "investors"? Or the Lithuanian leadership? Dream, Svidomo, dream. And tell us about the cheapness of the oil shale shop.
  20. delfinN
    delfinN 14 February 2014 15: 31
    +3
    The 90s are long gone
  21. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 14 February 2014 16: 22
    0
    Quote: haron
    Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
    for damn it, like some ..

    I doubt it very much. if you grew up in the USSR, you should know that being rude, being outside the reach of the interlocutor’s fist, is a sign of a devil and a jackal.


    Quote: haron
    When I lived in Ukraine, in order to defend what was left of the union, I cleaned the faces of such boors. But cattle and hamye have the ability to gather in heaps to peck on all sides of the jackal.


    Yeah,) someone who is afar off and out of reach suffers something - he was brushing his faces, his fist isn’t getting it ... this is 1))), and the second is how a person from the USSR could be rude beyond the reach of his fist ??? From the nine-story building yell)))
    I did not call you a jackal a damn thing - read it without bias and do not seethe with words, without delving into the narrative: "your post resembles the screeching of a jackal from Mowgli" And what is there about your status or type ???
    "for that it's not HELL, like some ..." where is your nickname ??? I didn't even answer you))
    Yeah - take care of the gentlemen who put the pluses to such posts (((at least you read it - you understand what he wants to say, and ???
    Quote: haron
    And I did not know that in eastern Europe they were expecting Ukraine as a liberator from the disaster. Do not so loudly raise the role of Ukraine, otherwise God forbid they imagine themselves to be saviors of the world
    It is clear that with a controlled pipeline it is easier to speak with Russia, but this does not mean a vital aspect for Europe - it seems that everything has happened somehow up to now.

    Yes, Ukraine is important in many ways.
    1. Pipeline.
    2. eastern complex of enterprises.
    3. Sow rapeseed land.
    4. hard workers to build everything that is possible in the west and in the east.
    5. Women rub the floors, take care of the elderly and not so in the west.
    6. Sevastopol (and nothing more, as an opportunity to disengage army bases).

    You can continue the list.

    If my answer is rudeness to the great hyperbole from a Slavophile, then doubts about your adequacy will turn into absolute confidence, I’m only for the capital letters at the beginning of the names of two states ... like a mammoth (((((((((((
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 14 February 2014 17: 33
      0
      Gentlemen, comrades, the article is interesting as presented by the author, only we already know all this (the content of the article). The author didn’t say anything new, at least I didn’t hear it. But the mutual butting on the principle of "self" did not add anything good to the content of the article. It's a shame!
  22. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 14 February 2014 16: 48
    +2
    Come on Yanukovych decide the term of the agreement is ending (and negotiating with such is useless) Just as in the picture .. laughing
  23. Cristall
    Cristall 14 February 2014 17: 28
    +4
    I wonder where in this world there is peace (precisely in this, and not on that) when they already leave us alone?
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 14 February 2014 18: 34
      0
      I love , welcome. repeat
      1. 31231
        31231 14 February 2014 19: 24
        +2
        Take a look at his comments, you may stop flirting with him.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 14 February 2014 22: 42
          0
          wassat Thank you Sergey hi reading the comments on your advice, not immediately, but understood the comic of the situation.

          I officially apologize to the colonel.
      2. Cristall
        Cristall 15 February 2014 03: 06
        0
        the girl in the photo, I have already captured in a legal prisoner) she is my wife already)
        and as for the country - it’s not fun when such a situation.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 14 February 2014 18: 43
      +3
      Quote: Cristall
      I wonder where in this world there is peace (it is in this, and not on that) when they will leave us alone

      Does the 1st Hebrew still work? Are there places for a leader?
      Judging by the reprisals of the graduate of the Institute, in Odessa they know how to accompany another laughing
    3. vvp2412
      vvp2412 14 February 2014 23: 57
      0
      Never, as well as Russia!
      Read the story. The West has always been opposed to Russia (Russia + Ukraine + Belarus).
  24. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 14 February 2014 17: 47
    +3
    Quote: Cristall
    I wonder where in this world there is peace (precisely in this, and not on that) when they already leave us alone?

    I sympathize ! Ukraine had peace only when it was a part of the Russian Empire and the USSR .. And in the rest of the historical periods there was a constant Maidan and anarchy .. (no offense) The geopolitical position of Ukraine is like that .. And like "my house on the edge I know nothing" or "Anarchy is the mother of order .." will not work anymore .. It's time to decide "both ours and yours" in the current world situation threatens Ukraine with the fate of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, etc. This clownery is already beginning to annoy and alarming Russia ..
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 16 February 2014 03: 17
      0
      Yes, too, there was no particular peace - 1 world, civil-also complete anarchy, especially in the territory of modern Ukraine, was just wildest (regime change every other day)
      in the USSR, there was World War II ... then they recovered ... and then the years of rest, increased industrial and cultural "meat and fat" now we spend the last ..
      Nowhere in the world is restless, I did not want the world trend to be with us. So after all, we try ...
  25. So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 14 February 2014 19: 00
    +2
    It is precisely because of the gas storages in western Ukraine and the gas pipeline - Russia will always need a whole Ukraine, and it seems to me that even a bankrupt country will always be helped to stay afloat, this is like a tax on Russian people for Ukraine loyal to Russia. That's just a shame, as soon as we gained independence so immediately and showed what we are standing ... There are no real statesmen sad
  26. delfinN
    delfinN 14 February 2014 20: 17
    0
    Divide and rule! History teaches that it teaches nothing ...
  27. konvalval
    konvalval 14 February 2014 20: 55
    0
    Quote: Zhaman-Urus
    It is not necessary to build a "Stream" but to build factories for this money. agricultural complexes are inexpensive housing for the Russians - then for Russia the problem of gas delivery to Europe will not be a problem at all. More precisely, it will become a European problem)

    Why only do we worry about flows? Well, we will lose currency. Maybe our government will finally realize that it is necessary to raise the real sector, and the geyropa will in general freeze out all the tricks for unconventionality.
  28. Foxmara
    Foxmara 14 February 2014 21: 20
    +5
    Quote: Vasya
    And the Russians have justice in the blood.

    What is the strength in, brother?
  29. vvp2412
    vvp2412 14 February 2014 23: 55
    0
    I wonder who are the 8 trolls that put the cons?
  30. Magadan
    Magadan 15 February 2014 00: 04
    0
    Quote: Semen Semenych
    Do you also have your own Magadan in the states?

    Magadan is not yet in the states. True, sometimes Magadans who live in Magadan, North-East of Russia, if they haven’t heard smile Russians sometimes travel abroad, and not only to resort areas such as Thailand. And sometimes they even work there, while spending every penny in Russia, living in Russia, having a family in Russia too
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