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Without the help of the West, Japan would not be able to defeat Russia

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Without the help of the West, Japan would not be able to defeat Russia



More than a hundred years have passed since then, but the Anglo-Saxon’s methods of fighting against our country have not changed.

These days 110 is celebrated years since the beginning of the Russian-Japanese war. Formally, the Russian Empire fought against Japan, but not only the Japanese, but also Great Britain and the United States really opposed it.

American and English capital armed the Japanese army with the latest technology. This explains the paradox of the availability of weapons of the highest world level in semi-feudal Japan. “There is no doubt,” wrote the conservative publicist M.O. Menshikov, - that without the provision of America and England, Japan would not have sunk into war with us. ”

Japan objectively had no chance of winning a long war with Russia. The mobilization resources of the countries were not comparable. Yes, indeed, Russian troops suffered a series of defeats. But didn’t, with a series of defeats, began many wars of Russia?

The world media controlled by American and British capital worked for Japan

By the end of the war, Japan’s economy and human resources were exhausted. The Japanese suffered much greater losses in terms of the number of dead and dead from disease. The cumulative losses of the winner were two times greater than that of the losing side. Japan actually had no reserves left. Judging by the general readiness to continue the war, the Japanese Empire was closer to defeat than Russia. Paradox: not loser Russia, but victorious Japan initiated peace talks through the USA.

What did the ruling Japanese circles count on when they decided to attack Russia? Obviously - to the aid of the West. And such assistance was guaranteed. In 1902, an Anglo-Japanese alliance treaty was concluded. US President Theodore Roosevelt threatened with war his ally France, if she would have taken a pro-Russian position. According to the memoirs A.F. Kerensky, who was hard to suspect in his dislike for the West, the US president "fully took the side of Japan and was sometimes more Japanese than the Japanese themselves during the Portsmouth talks."

The world media controlled by American and British capital worked for Japan. Japan, which has begun the war, is being presented in the media as a victim of Russian aggression. Moreover, the image of Japan is presented as the image of a country fighting for the ideals of freedom. “Freedom,” of course, is associated with Russia. An illustrated chronicle of the war is published in London with the characteristic name "Japan's Fight for Freedom."

The rhetoric of one of the Japanese newspapers of that time is also typical: “Russia is a shame of Europe; we must defeat this nation in the name of civilization, in the name of peace and in the name of humanity. Europe will be pleased that there is a nation in the Far East that will receive the torch of civilization from it and defeat Russia, the troublemaker. ” Are not there such freedom fighters as opposed to “Russian autocracy and imperialism”, and the propaganda of the modern West is growing?

The first Russian revolution was a "stab in the back"

Russia would not have lost the war of Japan, if not for the war on two fronts. The second front was internal. In the midst of a military campaign, the first Russian revolution begins. It was a "stab in the back." Russia cannot transfer more significant forces to the Far East due to the need to suppress sedition inside the country.

At present, enough information has been accumulated to support the financing of the revolutionary movement from abroad. There is evidence of direct cooperation with Japan itself, essentially speaking of high treason. And again historical parallels related to the evidence of external sources of funding for the “color revolution” in modern Russia.

The Russian-Japanese war was designed by the Anglo-Saxons. The minimum task solved in it was to contain Russia's Far East-Pacific advancement, the maximum task was to organize the synchronization of external and internal strikes against Russian statehood itself. This design was realized by contemporaries. “If Britain and Japan act together,” the German emperor Wilhelm II wrote in 1901, they could crush Russia ... But they should hurry, otherwise the Russians will become too strong. ” A year goes by, and London makes an alliance with Tokyo, another two years, and Japan attacks Russia. Alexey Vandam, the creator of the Russian geopolitical school, also wrote that the goals of England in the war are to push Russia from the Pacific coast into the mainland.

During the Russo-Japanese War in 1904, Halford Mackinder publishes his famous work, The Geographical Axis of History. In it, as you know, he laid down the tradition of analyzing world geopolitics through the prism of the conflict between the Heartland - the "Middle Earth" associated with Russia and the Outer Crescent associated with Atlanticism. The confrontation between Russia and the Anglo-Saxon world was conceptually interpreted as a struggle for world domination. The Russo-Japanese War was a private illustration of this rivalry.

The Anglo-Saxons love, without entering into a war themselves, to use as cannon fodder other

The fact that the Anglo-Saxons love, without entering into a war themselves, to use others as cannon fodder, is well known. If any of the geopolitical subjects of the world challenged their global hegemony, they reacted every time according to their traditional tactical scheme. In contrast to the emerging rival, a certain ideological and geopolitical opponent was created and armed, then the war was unleashed between them. The Anglo-Saxons themselves either did not participate in the conflict directly, or their participation was limited to peripheral fronts. But the results of the war were summed up by them. The results of the realized scenario were a strike on the power representing the Anglo-Saxon hegemony and the establishment of a system of international relations that strengthens their hegemonic positions.

Not once this kind of tactic was used by the Anglo-Saxons against Russia. The British Empire was the main geopolitical opponent of the Russian Empire. Geographically, these were the two largest world powers (the area of ​​the British is one-third larger than the Russian), and objectively their interests caused numerous contradictions. At the same time, Russia and England fought directly with each other only in the Crimean campaign. Moreover, they were often allied. But this alliance was a “embrace of mortal enemies.”

Most often, the British Empire was behind many of the states that fought against Russia. Historically, Prussia was used as such, and then Germany, Turkey, Persia, France, and Japan. Channels of British aid were different - weapons, finance, diplomacy, information support, military advice.

In the twentieth century, instead of the opposition, the British Empire - the Russian Empire actualizes the opposition of the USA - the USSR, but the essence of the confrontation does not change. Not canceled it today. Mitt Romney publicly formulated the fact that other leading figures in American politics are not pronounced, but are clearly recognized: Russia and the United States are geopolitical opponents. Accordingly, the traditional Anglo-Saxon tactics used against Russia — the cultivation of a geopolitical adversary and the provocation of war — are also preserved. Both the Chechen and South Ossetian conflicts are clearly related to it.

Since the beginning of the Russian-Japanese war, 110 has passed years, but the fundamental foundations of world geopolitics that have been revealed through it have retained their significance today.
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  1. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 10 February 2014 07: 45
    +5
    The story of the Japanese did not teach anything. At first, they fed a monster to poison enemies, and then the same Japanese firmly broke the British into the Second World War. I won’t be surprised and consider fair the black al-Qaeda flag over Big Ben.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 10 February 2014 07: 57
      +4
      Quote: FC Skif
      At first they fed a monster to poison enemies, and then the same Japanese firmly broke the British into the Second World War. I won’t be surprised and consider fair the black al-Qaeda flag over Big Ben.

      - It often happens that a pit bull terrier raised by you against an enemy suddenly takes and bites you. This is normal, do not dig another hole. Britons are simply amazing in their obstinacy to step on the same rake. They need to tie an ax on the rake handle when they once again come
    2. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 10 February 2014 09: 55
      0
      The story with the Japanese taught nothing to anyone, Britain, as always, craps around the world for the sake of its interests and in accordance with them, and as usual with the wrong hands, the last example of Ukraine will break, divide and declare the victory of democracy (fascists).
    3. GastaClaus69
      GastaClaus69 10 February 2014 12: 32
      +1
      Quote: FC Skif
      At first, they fed a monster to poison enemies, and then the same Japanese firmly broke the British into the Second World War.

      Well, their intelligence generally considered Japan to be a backward state with a weak army before the war. As a result, the Japanese "Zero" unpleasantly surprised them laughing
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 10 February 2014 14: 41
        +1
        Banker Jacob Schiff credited Japan in the Russo-Japanese War. The Paris newspaper Press wrote directly: Japan is not alone in waging a war with Russia, it has a powerful ally - Anglo-Saxon financial capital. It was possible to find out how much Japan cost "the first experience of the overthrow of tsarism." There are no other sponsors in this case. In the middle of March 1905 the country's military department decided to allocate 1 million yen for the needs of the armed uprising in Russia (at the current rate of approximately $ 80 million). The Socialist Revolutionaries received the bulk of these funds, while diligently pretending that they did not know their origin. Mostly the money went for the purchase of weapons, which was carried out through intermediaries of other parties - anarchists, the “Finland Party of Active Resistance”; “The Georgian Party of Socialist-Federalist Revolutionaries” and others. Cecil and Sizl steam yachts, then the 315-ton John Grafton ship, the Fulham ship and the Sirius steamer were purchased for arms transportation. At the beginning of April 1905 Israel Lazarevich Gelfand (Parvus), having received another two million yen ($ 170 million) from the Japanese secret services, used them to finance the Russian revolutionary movement. By the way, part of this astronomical amount went to Vladimir Ilyich (for the III Congress of the RSDLP, and for the publication of the Vperyod newspaper)
    4. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 10 February 2014 19: 18
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      Quote: FC Skif
      The story of the Japanese didn’t teach anything

      "Yapov" - what kind of tribe is this? What to teach "yapov"?
  2. mirag2
    mirag2 10 February 2014 07: 45
    +3
    And the revolutionary press and "fashion" (then, as now, the main thing is to make the revolution "fashionable", so that people would go there themselves, put their lives in) - played their role.
    And who built the Japanese ships?
    -That is also necessary to remember.
  3. sds555
    sds555 10 February 2014 07: 47
    +4
    But the traitors Stessel and Fok are not to blame? It’s a pity Admiral Makarov died, with him Port Arthur would not have been surrendered
  4. makarov
    makarov 10 February 2014 07: 48
    +8
    And in 1945, my grandfather, Fedorchenko Mikhail Petrovich, entered Port Arthur from the ship to the land, and was there until 1947. In total, after being called up to the Black Sea Fleet in 1940, 2 wars passed and he was delayed for 7 years. When he demobilized home, in conversations he very much felt sorry for the Chinese, they were so shitty then, general poverty.
  5. bomg.77
    bomg.77 10 February 2014 07: 55
    +8
    Two wars, two revolutions, however, a system. And this system was aimed at dismantling the Republic of Ingushetia and the ruling family. Without the help of internal destructive forces, inside Russia, this would not have been possible for the foreigners. The fifth colony needs to be identified and destroyed.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 10 February 2014 08: 11
      +6
      Quote: bomg.77
      The fifth column needs to be identified and destroyed.
      ----- with extreme cruelty and utter cynicism. lime as a species .............
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 10 February 2014 08: 55
        +2
        Quote: stroporez
        Quote: bomg.77
        The fifth column needs to be identified and destroyed.
        ----- with extreme cruelty and utter cynicism. lime as a species .............
        In yes
      2. skeptic
        skeptic 10 February 2014 11: 27
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        Quote: stroporez
        Quote: bomg.77
        The fifth column needs to be identified and destroyed.
        ----- with extreme cruelty and utter cynicism. Lime as a species ....


        Nah. It is necessary to correct the fifth column and send it to the Britons in their cradle, sculpt the revolution. You can even chip in and finance such an alliance, led by their toad (I don’t remember the name, well, which, if not a word, is vicious vyser).
    2. alex-s
      alex-s 10 February 2014 08: 55
      +3
      If possible, it is necessary to divide the USA into 50 states, and small Britain into its component parts! The field of this will be much calmer for everyone!
    3. AVV
      AVV 10 February 2014 10: 29
      +1
      Quote: bomg.77
      Two wars, two revolutions, however, a system. And this system was aimed at dismantling the Republic of Ingushetia and the ruling family. Without the help of internal destructive forces, inside Russia, this would not have been possible for the foreigners. The fifth colony needs to be identified and destroyed.

      It is necessary to destroy everywhere, the Anglo-Saxons are the most filthy spark, 90% of all wars and conflicts, overthrows of governments go with their participation and their financing, Ukraine is now also a victim of these ur.odov !!!
    4. CTEPX
      CTEPX 10 February 2014 11: 32
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      Quote: bomg.77
      Two wars, two revolutions, however a system.

      System)). But only calculus must be conducted since the Battle of Kulikovo.
  6. Lk17619
    Lk17619 10 February 2014 07: 55
    +5
    The strength of Russia is in the consolidation of domestic resources and in the unity of peoples. And if we are united, the whole world will break its teeth about us.
  7. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 10 February 2014 07: 56
    +3
    Something is not entirely clear about Japan's victory over Russia. Yes, the tsarist government admitted defeat under pressure from the Anglo-Saxons and thanks to the "stab in the back" inflicted on the "social traitors", but what was it that they kept silent about the fact that Japan was on the edge? the economic abyss and the further conduct of the war would lead it to collapse! In fact, Western "friends" twisted their arms to Russia and its government and forced them to conclude an unprofitable peace (but unlike Japan, Russia had all the opportunities and resources for further waging the war). (not quite Russian) revolution was organized from abroad! This is happening now in Ukraine and all over the world!
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 10 February 2014 08: 11
      +3
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      Something is not entirely clear about Japan's victory over Russia. Yes, the tsarist government admitted defeat under pressure from the Anglo-Saxons and thanks to the "stab in the back" inflicted on the "social traitors", but what was it that they kept silent about the fact that Japan was on the edge? economic abyss and the further conduct of the war would lead to its collapse
      Here from the article
      Towards the end of the war, Japan's economy and human resources were depleted. The Japanese suffered much larger losses in the number of people killed and died from disease. The cumulative losses of the winner were two times greater than that of the losing side. Japan actually had no reserves left. Judging by the general readiness to continue the war, the Japanese empire was closer to defeat than Russia
  8. ZU-23
    ZU-23 10 February 2014 08: 17
    +1
    My grandfather was drawn to this war, but all the glory of God settled down. Anglo-Saxons everywhere scum snout wet their own, and who are the only Japanese on their own, yesterday they looked for unemployment and fertility they fell in sorrow, we also had this not so long ago, but it's us))). The geopolitical adversary is always spurred on by words, if the Anglo-Saxons didn’t wet the snout around, how could the word Geo connect us with them, some live on the same continent and others live on the third with islanders in general))).
  9. Jarilo
    Jarilo 10 February 2014 08: 24
    +1
    I think their attempts at the moment are ridiculous. I’m afraid they’ll become complex and will behave like an elephant in a china shop. So what should be more careful with them.
  10. propolsky
    propolsky 10 February 2014 08: 25
    +2
    Grandma remembered how she was a girl! With all due respect to the Japanese, I still remember that after this they were polished by Ours, and the Americans did not hesitate in choosing weapons and targets. We need conclusions!
  11. Refugee from Kazakhstan
    Refugee from Kazakhstan 10 February 2014 08: 41
    +7
    The author chose the name, of course, controversial: "Without the help of the West, Japan could not have defeated Russia!" What has already won?
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 10 February 2014 19: 27
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      Quote: RK refugee
      What has already won?

      Take an interest in the 1905 Portsmouth Peace Treaty. Next year will be 110 years.
  12. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 10 February 2014 09: 18
    +3
    At present, enough information has been accumulated to support the financing of the revolutionary movement from abroad. There are facts of direct cooperation with Japan itself, speaking essentially - high treason

    A clear liberal dirty lie.
    Who was financed from abroad on the battleship Potemkin? The captain and the quartermasters who slipped rotten meat with worms to the sailors? Sailors who refused to eat rotten meat?
    Who financed the January 9 of the 1905 of the year on Palace Square in St. Petersburg? Peaceful demonstrators marching to the king with a petition? Booty Gapon? Tsar Nicholas II ordered to shoot at unarmed people? The imperial guard that shot at workers, at women and children? Cossacks who chopped up on the streets of scattered unarmed demonstrators? The 1905 revolution of the year began on January 9, after the execution of peaceful demonstrators, all of Russia rebelled.
    Russia lost to the Japanese because peace negotiations were held in Portsmouth in the United States (?) Through the intermediaries of the Americans, who were on the side of the Japanese. Tsarishko Nikolashka and his Prime Minister Witte "Count Polusakhalinsky" were unable to defend their interests even at the negotiations and agreed to all the demands of the Japanese. That's where high treason was.
    These bastards essentially betrayed those who died in battles with the Japanese and those who worked in Russia for this war. It is clear why the people rebelled, the Russians always have a sense of honor and justice in the first place.
    1. calocha
      calocha 10 February 2014 09: 26
      +1
      Russia, as it is now, in those years was torn by its internal enemies and external .....
    2. CTEPX
      CTEPX 10 February 2014 11: 51
      0
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Who was financed from abroad on the battleship Potemkin? The captain and the quartermasters who slipped rotten meat with worms to the sailors? Sailors who refused to eat rotten meat?

      Such internal conflicts in any military unit of any state ...
      But the replication of this "news", its symbolism, yes, it was financed)).
      And "Tsarishko Nikolashka and his Prime Minister Witte" Count Polusakhalinsky "then very much resemble Janek and his team now. Only now there is ... someone behind Janek)).
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 10 February 2014 15: 05
      +2
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Who was financed from abroad on the battleship Potemkin

      The day before the start of the buoy, riots broke out in the battleship in Odessa, which aimed to create an independent state. It is noteworthy that the rebels expected to use the battleship on which there was no rebellion yet. Of course, these are random coincidences.
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Tsar Nicholas II ordered to shoot at unarmed people

      Are you sure that the first to shoot at the people? But not provocateurs lost in the unarmed crowd and opened fire on the soldiers? And where did the rebels later find out a mass of weapons and people trained to fight in the city?
      Well, honestly, after all sorts of "revolutions", like the one that is now successfully choking in Syria, honor and praise to the Syrian military, it is simply stupid to believe in spontaneous armed uprisings. The maximum that the people are capable of is street riots.
      Quote: Corsair5912
      agreed to all the demands of the Japanese

      Not at all. After the conclusion of the peace treaty in Tokyo, street riots even broke out caused by dissatisfaction with the terms of the Portsmouth Peace Treaty, which led to the resignation of the Prime Minister.
      What can be accused of Nicholas II, is that he went on about the rebels and did not dare to continue the war during the armed rebellion, and that he introduced parliament, which became a hotbed of treason.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 10 February 2014 17: 07
        -1
        Are you sure that the first to shoot at the people? But not provocateurs lost in the unarmed crowd and opened fire on the soldiers? And where did the rebels later find out a mass of weapons and people trained to fight in the city?
        Well, my word of honor after all sorts of "revolutions", like the one that is now successfully choking in Syria

        In the crowd of demonstrators there were people who fanatically believed in a good king, they would tear apart any person with a weapon. Russia of the beginning of the 20 century and Syria of the beginning of the 21 century are completely different states that do not have the slightest similarity. In Russia there were no foreign mercenaries and opposition to the government.
        Armed uprisings began only at the end of October 1905, 10 months after the shooting of the demonstrators, and the rebels were armed only with light small arms and hunting weapons, which were freely sold in stores.
        After the conclusion of the peace treaty in Tokyo, street riots broke out due to dissatisfaction with the terms of the Portsmouth Peace Treaty, which led to the resignation of the Prime Minister.
        What can be accused of Nicholas II, is that he went on about the rebels and did not dare to continue the war during the armed rebellion, and that he introduced parliament, which became a hotbed of treason.

        In Japan, street riots and anti-war demonstrations took place from the very beginning of the war.
        In Russia, strikes and demonstrations began in January 1905, the Battle of Tsushima took place at the end of May 1905, the "parliament that became a hotbed of high treason" was established on August 19, peace with Japan was concluded on September 5, 1905, and armed uprisings began in late October 1905 and continued until 1907.
        Not about what Nikolashka went, but rested against the stop.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 10 February 2014 18: 23
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          Quote: Corsair5912
          In the crowd of protesters there were people who fanatically believed in a good king

          A well-trained professional will kill ten witnesses-amateurs in front of their eyes and they will not understand anything, and getting lost in the crowd is generally a trifling matter. For sure, no one was watching the roofs.
          Quote: Corsair5912
          In Russia there were no foreign mercenaries and opposition to the government

          True? That is, there were no organizations in Ingushetia that sought to overthrow the existing government? And who were the Socialist-Revolutionaries then, one might be curious? And with the mercenaries, the question is slippery. Let's start with the fact that no one was looking for them then, because such a possibility was not considered in principle. It is clear that the bulk of them were not, rather like special forces, but I would not completely rule out their fate. Trotsky, for example, wrote about the "Georgian comrades" - what were they doing in Moscow?
          Quote: Corsair5912
          light small arms and hunting weapons, which were freely sold in stores

          Truth? And the steamboat with weapons that ran aground off the coast of the Principality of Finland simply lost its course? And the Guards regiments simply had nothing to do, that they were sent to suppress the riots? And was artillery also used solely for beauty? And another question - how much did a good weapon and ammunition cost? By the way, the famous Mauser in the army of the Republic of Ingushetia began to appear only in 1908, and among revolutionaries much earlier. How many rounds are needed for several, if not active, but still battles? In order to shoot well, you need to train a lot, and the ability to just shoot does not mean the ability to fight, so someone had to teach the same combatants, but who?
          Too many questions.
          Quote: Corsair5912
          In Japan, street riots and anti-war demonstrations took place from the very beginning of the war

          Quote: Dart2027
          After the conclusion of the peace treaty, street riots broke out in Tokyo caused by dissatisfaction with the terms of the Portsmouth Peace Treaty

          DISSATISFACTION OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE PORTSMUT PEACE AGREEMENT. Nicholas II did not agree to ALL the conditions of Japan. And they had to restrain their appetites, otherwise the war would continue with the corresponding consequences for them.
          Quote: Corsair5912
          Not about what Nikolashka went, but rested against the stop

          I didn’t go about it - it means he sent the Japanese with their peace talks, as the military offered him, and all those demanding the introduction of the State Duma to hard labor or to be shot.
          But this was not done, so it went on about it.
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 10 February 2014 18: 42
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            Quote: Dart2027
            A well-trained professional will kill ten witnesses-amateurs in front of their eyes and they will not understand anything, and getting lost in the crowd is generally a trifling matter. For sure, no one was watching the roofs.

            What are the professionals in 1905? Then there was no such thing, the terrorists shot at point blank range and threw home-made bombs, from 5 steps, there were simply no other bombs.
            the guards had nothing to do, that they were sent to suppress riots? And was artillery also used solely for beauty?

            The guard regiments did not go over to the side of the rebels, unlike the usual ones, but used artillery against the barricades, they interfered with the Cossacks, the tsar’s main punitive force.
            Because they suppressed the revolution, because there was no money for weapons and ammunition, against machine guns and cannons a revolver is not a weapon.
            I didn’t go about it - it means he sent the Japanese with their peace talks, as the military offered him, and all those demanding the introduction of the State Duma to hard labor or to be shot. But this was not done, so it went on about it.

            What does the Japanese and the military have to do with it? Strikes and riots in Russia lasted 7 months, and Nikolashka gave birth to a false Manifesto without any real reforms, provoked an armed uprising in December 1905 of the year and eventually died like a dog in the basement in 1918, in his own wickedness.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 10 February 2014 23: 54
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              Quote: Corsair5912
              What are the professionals in the ass in 1905?

              "Pale youths" is a kamikaze, that is, a consumable. There were others.
              Quote: Corsair5912
              Guards regiments did not go over to the side of the rebels, unlike ordinary

              A list of ordinary regiments that have sided with the uprising will not be thrown?
              Quote: Corsair5912
              and artillery was used against barricades

              And what was without artillery in any way? Shooting cannons in the city center - you know the last resort.
              Quote: Corsair5912
              What does the Japanese and the military have to do with it?

              And we are not discussing the REV?
              Quote: Corsair5912
              provoked an armed uprising in December 1905

              I have already written about the "spontaneous uprising" above.
              By the way, as Comrade Stalin said:
              "If an accident has political consequences, it is worth taking a closer look at this accident."
              Mr. Roosevelt spoke in a similar fashion:
              "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If something happened, it was intended that way."
              After all, there were stupid people.
    4. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 10 February 2014 19: 37
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      There was funding for the revolution, there was. In the 70s of the last century about the steamer "John Grafton" even a Soviet film was shot, in my television, a series of two. Chartering a steamer, loading it with weapons and weapons - probably not free of charge?
  13. Name
    10 February 2014 09: 32
    +4
    Everywhere there is war, there are Anglo-Saxons ... it was, it is.
  14. muhomor
    muhomor 10 February 2014 09: 46
    +4
    Still, the first revolution was a consequence of Russia's defeat in the war with Japan. To whitewash the regime existing in Russia is also not necessary.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 10 February 2014 11: 58
      +1
      Quote: muhomor
      the first revolution was the result of Russia's defeat in the war with Japan.

      Yeah, a consequence of the defeat in the war at the height of the war itself)).
      Revolution: January 1905 to June 1907.
      War: January 1904 to August 1905)).
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 10 February 2014 19: 22
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        Quote: ctepx
        Quote: muhomor
        the first revolution was the result of Russia's defeat in the war with Japan.

        Yeah, a consequence of the defeat in the war at the height of the war itself)).
        Revolution: January 1905 to June 1907.
        War: January 1904 to August 1905)).

        The active stage of the revolution, the armed uprising began in late October 1905 after the end of the war with Japan and reached a peak in December 1905, when the fighting began on the barricades in Moscow on Krasnaya Presnya, where the monument now stands.
  15. RUS96
    RUS96 10 February 2014 10: 17
    +2
    It seems that Khrushchev once hinted to the British that they live only on a small island, and this can be dangerous. laughing
  16. gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 10 February 2014 10: 34
    +2
    In general, the title of the article and the formulation of the question are not correct. We must write: Why Japan, with the help of the USA and Britain, still lost to the Russian Empire. Or you could call: Stolen Victory.
    After all, the victory was just for Russia. And the schools taught that losing the war with Japan was an indicator of a rotten tsarist regime.
    You can also call: History (from the Torah I) - as a means of manipulating the consciousness of the People.
  17. Bigriver
    Bigriver 10 February 2014 11: 04
    +3
    It seems like a normal article, but the headline .., so-so.
    It would be more correct to say: If not for England, the Russo-Japanese War would not have happened.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 10 February 2014 11: 46
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      Quote: BigRiver
      If not for England, the Russo-Japanese War would not have happened.

      Where without them then ...



      and one-eyed right there ...



  18. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 10 February 2014 11: 12
    0
    It seems to me that speaking about the Russo-Japanese War, one must understand that Japan, then understandably, could not have defeated the Russian Empire without the help of Britain and the United States, and even at the end of the war Japan was in a deplorable state despite the economic and political support of the British and Americans, there were human resources are completely exhausted, Russia did not even need to fight the Japanese, it was enough just to retreat to Manchuria, since they passed through Korea, and what would the Japanese do? They would not have done anything, they would have asked for peace, because they were using up their entire potential, but Shinto gods and spirits helped Japan, because on the throne of the Russian Empire there was a rag with ears and absolutely did not understand what to do. So it is better to ask: "Why did the Russian Empire, the Great, in spite of everything, manage to merge so ineptly the practically won in spite of the staff To the nerds and rags on the Russian throne, the war? Of course, it is very simple to explain everything by the intervention of insidious communists, Jews-reptilians and Masons.
    1. skeptic
      skeptic 10 February 2014 11: 55
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      Quote: Standard Oil
      The Russian Empire, the Great, no matter what the state managed to so ineptly merge the war that was almost won despite the staff’s nerds and a rag on the Russian throne? Of course, it’s very simple to explain everything by the intervention of insidious communists, liquid reptiloids and masons.


      I just fell out, especially about the Communists, who in 1905, well, just have not yet formed. Although there were fighting, against Japan in 1945, directly by communist Russia, with a completely different result. Which once again proves that Russia is strong when united by a common social idea. Then it is able to withstand Saxon hyenas, and the bourgeois bummer (man, wolf man) is like gangrene.
  19. Odysseus
    Odysseus 10 February 2014 14: 06
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    The article is ridiculous. The author simply does not know the story.
    1) The "West" was not completely against Russia. The German Empire, an ally of Russia, France, benevolent neutrality, the United States, acted for their own benefit, and their benefit was to weaken both sides while maintaining neutrality and becoming intermediaries between them ...
    Only the British Empire was against Russia.
    2) Russia was in the same way armed with "western" equipment, like Japan. For example, two of the strongest ships of the 1st squadron were built, respectively, in the USA and in France. Japan was no longer "semi-feudal" (Meiji restoration), in contrast, just from Russia, which was the secret of her victories.
    3) "World media" then simply did not exist. The very concept of "world media" can arise only in the information society (2nd half of the 20th century) and only in the case of the domination of one state (USA)
    4) The revolution in Russia in 1905 was social in its essence and had no resemblance to the "colored", geopolitical in its essence, revolutions in post-socialist countries.
    The assumption that a social revolution can be inspired from without is unfounded.
    In order to make changes in society, ridiculous espionage games and money in envelopes are not enough. With the same success, it can be assumed that the English bourgeois revolution of the 17th century was created by agents of the French crown.
    5) The Russo-Japanese War was prepared ahead of time by both of its participants and was a classic example of a war with limited goals. As soon as the price of victory became too big for one of its participants, it immediately ends the war.
    The author of the article does not understand the very meaning of this war, advocating "war to a victorious end," with the exertion of all the forces of the empire.
  20. Klibanophoros
    Klibanophoros 10 February 2014 15: 21
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    Another blah blah blah. It’s not the Japanese matter, nor the insidious Zhydamassassons like Parvus, but the rottenness of the Russian Empire, which was no longer able to respond to historical challenges.
  21. Vovan 2014
    Vovan 2014 10 February 2014 17: 10
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    A double attitude, on the one hand, colorful fireworks and joy for us and our athletes, on the other, a deliberate waste of money (following the example of APEC with a budget of 0,5 Sochi). It was possible to spend where the objects will be in demand, and not try to build collapsible palaces, but as in the joke: give .... money, where he will spend it on the party of course.
  22. alone
    alone 10 February 2014 19: 10
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    When the country is in turmoil, it’s impossible to win a war no matter how many resources and weapons there are. A war requires internal stability