The deputy head of the General Staff resigned - did not agree with the chief, says the press

Deputy Chief of the General Staff Alexander Postnikov wrote a report on dismissal. According to the newspaper Kommersant, the general could not find a common language with the head of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov appointed after the resignation of Nikolai Makarov.

According to the high-ranking official of the Ministry of Defense, General Postnikov wrote a letter of resignation "of his own accord" at the end of last year, and he did not meet objections from Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Valery Gerasimov. A source of Kommersant in the presidential administration claims that the decree of resignation has already been signed.

Alexander Postnikov a year ago on the sidelines was called one of the first candidates for departure, although he had not yet reached the age limit of service. The fact is that the general is considered to be a man from the inner circle of the ex-Chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov, who left office in November 2012. Postnikov Gerasimov did not immediately dismiss, as there were no sharp contradictions between them.

“It was not a conflict, but a strong distrust,” the newspaper’s interlocutor in the Defense Ministry explained. “It was uncomfortable to work for them, so the decision was brewing.”

General Postnikov in the General Staff was responsible for interaction with NATO, missile defense problems, and the transfer of chemical weapons in Syria to international control.

Alexander Postnikov was born in 1957 year. He graduated from the Kazan Suvorov Military School, Kiev Higher Combined Arms Command School. M. V. Frunze, Military Academy. M. V. Frunze. In 2000, he graduated from the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. He served as chief of staff of the 22 Army (Combined Arms), since August 2002 of the year - Commander of the 20 Guards Army in the Moscow Military District.

From 2004 of the year - Chief of Staff - First Deputy Commander of the North Caucasian Military District. In December, 2006 was appointed Chief of Staff - First Deputy Commander of the Siberian Military District.

The military rank of "Colonel General" was awarded to Postnikov by presidential decree of 12.06.2006 of the year and by order of the Minister of Defense of 12.06.2006 of the year. Also, by presidential decree and order of the head of the Ministry of Defense in 2007, he was appointed commander of the Siberian military district.

13 January 2010, it became known that Postnikov was appointed commander-in-chief of the Land Forces. Army General Vladimir Boldyrev, the former commander-in-chief of the Ground Forces, was dismissed from the Armed Forces upon reaching the age limit, RIA recalls. "News".

Comments

[Wurger]

It’s strange somehow. Mistrust. Are they husband and wife that would trust each other? Or in the highest ranks of the army the same blat as a civilian? Like a new boss comes and leads his people?

[mirag2]

This man-fired-worked with Makarov hand in hand, and military reform is not the brainchild of Serdyukov-a Makrov.
They were already ready to abandon the weapons produced in our country, which would lead to re-profiling or selling within the framework of "optimization" of the military-industrial complex enterprises producing "non-competitive" products.
So this is all one gang.
http://ria.ru/analytics/20121109/910198995.html

"Apparently, there were reasons for this. Gerasimov was called one of the few senior officers of the Russian army who allowed themselves to have their own opinion on the form and content of military reform, and even seriously oppose Makarov."

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/analytics/20121109/910198995.html#ixzz2sQQY3uqj

"The important thing is that now in the army everything will go a little differently, although it is not a fact that in a fundamentally new direction. This does not mean a complete curtailment of the Serdyukov-Makarov military reform, but it will almost certainly lead to significant substantive adjustments."

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/analytics/20121109/910198995.html#ixzz2sQQjzuyW

[military]

Quote: mirag2

"Apparently, there were reasons for this. Gerasimov was called one of the few senior officers of the Russian army who allowed themselves to have their own opinion on the form and content of military reform, and even seriously oppose Makarov."

hardly ... Makakin's "serious opponents" at that time, as a rule, very quickly received a kick in the ass ...

[Z.A.M.]

Quote: mirag2

and military reform is the brainchild not Serdyukov-a Makrova.

With respect to you - whom, whom ... Makarov ????
And, "nothing to do with it" - Putin, where is he ????

Quote: mirag2

So this is all one gang.

Well, voooot!

[siberalt]

I do not understand. It seems like there are commanders and chiefs in our army. And then the deputy. "chapters". Maybe there are already democratic elections for the heads of the military departments? Or is the author not in the know?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Wurger

It’s strange somehow. Mistrust. Are they husband and wife that would trust each other?

It is a matter of professional trust, and for the commanding staff this is crucial, the price of such mistrust is defeat on the battlefield and soldiers' lives.

[PLO]

finally drove the second Serdyukovsky clown

[military]

Quote: olp

finally drove the second Serdyukovsky clown

there is still "Nikola the Pleasant" left ... unsinkable

[AleksUkr]

There was only one general in the world, and he had two daughters. But the trouble is, the health of one of them was lame. Some say that she had epilepsy, and some that even autism. But let's not talk about the sad. But there was a young officer who decided to become the husband of this daughter. Disease is not a disease, but "love is evil — you will fall in love with a goat." Yes, that's just the general dad set a condition - "if you want to be my son-in-law, take my surname. You can even go with a double surname." The officer thought (or maybe he didn't) and decided. So be it. And his career went uphill.
"Who is this?", You ask. This is Streltsov Alexander Nikolaevich. “But we don’t know that!” - you say. And you will be absolutely right. And how do you know the real name of the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation. Although Google and Lenta.ru help us in this matter Lenta.ru:: Postnikov-Streltsov, Alexander.

But a disaster struck. The reform of the RF Armed Forces and it was necessary to choose with whom to stay. With the "dad" general, whose surname was taken by Streltsov A. N., or with a new friend Makarov. And the choice was made. "O West is West. East is East. And together they will not converge." And its result is obvious. Alexander Postnikov came instead of Boldyrev's “swearing grandfather-boor”. Who is NGSH? Of course, Makarov! The war between the warring factions in the command of the RF Armed Forces ended and those who stood and supported Makarov won.

[AVV]

Quote: Wurger

It’s strange somehow. Mistrust. Are they husband and wife that would trust each other? Or in the highest ranks of the army the same blat as a civilian? Like a new boss comes and leads his people?

It is blue in the West that they can be military men like husband and wife, hold senior positions, but if the boss does not trust us, it means that he cannot entrust him with particularly important work and must constantly monitor him, or simply cannot go into intelligence with him !!!

[120352]

Dismissal by mistrust has always been. In particular, in the former Labor Code, article 254 was devoted to him. But this is with civilians. And the military is even stricter. Is it possible to go into battle if there is a person nearby whom you do not trust?

[rubin6286]

Yes, his own leads and pulls his own. In the Russian, Russian, Soviet army, not a single chief wanted to see a younger and, God forbid, smarter next to him. There is even a saying: "You are the boss - I am, I am the boss - you are." If you count, then Postnikov in 25 years of service (1975-2000) in peacetime went from cadet to general and division commander. As a hereditary military man, I know that it is impossible to achieve this independently, without "help and support". For every military man there is a certain limit of thinking, vision of perspective, after which comes a state of apathy, complacency, complacency. The man in the last position, as they say, has exhausted himself. Perhaps this is just such a case.

[tungus]

It is strange that the people of Makarov and Serdyukov were not immediately chased after their bosses. If a person participated and developed the "reform of the army" according to Makarov's models, then there are only two options - either he supported such a reform, or he is an opportunist. In any case, such people should be removed from the army.

[servant]

Quote: tungus

It is strange that the people of Makarov and Serdyukov were not immediately chased after their bosses. If a person participated and developed the "reform of the army" according to Makarov's models, then there are only two options - either he supported such a reform, or he is an opportunist. In any case, such people should be removed from the army.

But what about the reforms carried out by the comrades listed by you have been canceled? Except in the Air Force, the bases were again called regiments and the divisions were returned ....

[tungus]

Divisions returned - this is not enough! And besides, there is no longer talk about the need to purchase German tanks instead of ours. And in general, imports of foreign weapons fell sharply. In the Air Force recreate airfields, closed at Makarov and Serdyukov. The North is being mastered again. Epaulettes removed from the belly!

[Same lech]

Makarov, too, nakulesil at one time going on about Serdyukov, it is not surprising that his people are viewed with suspicion.

[tank64rus]

I agree that those who participated in the "reforms" and supported Serdyukov have no place in the army.

[servant]

Quote: tank64rus

I agree that those who participated in the "reforms" and supported Serdyukov have no place in the army.

According to this logic, then everyone who served with Pasha Mercedes, with the president, an alcoholic should also leave the ranks? Who lived then when the tagged one was breaking up the union, what should they do then?

[ed65b]

Quote: Servant

Quote: tank64rus

I agree that those who participated in the "reforms" and supported Serdyukov have no place in the army.

According to this logic, then everyone who served with Pasha Mercedes, with the president, an alcoholic should also leave the ranks? Who lived then when the tagged one was breaking up the union, what should they do then?

Don’t bother with holy things How to remove the eternally living from the helm? they have changed their colors and are sitting in orderly rows in the "correct" party, speaking "correct" speeches. Where are you going

[servant]

Quote: ed65b

Don’t bother with holy things How to remove the eternally living from the helm? they have changed their colors and are sitting in orderly rows in the "correct" party, speaking "correct" speeches. Where are you going

Including the new MO and Nach General Staff!

[lukke]

This news is useless. Even if he was subordinate to Makarov (Serdyukov), he was first of all a subordinate, and therefore must strictly follow the orders of a superior, and if he does not agree, then appeal them. Otherwise, there will be circus and chaos. Following your logic - more than half of the army after the arrival of Serdyukov should immediately write reports on dismissals. The bosses come and go - the army remains.

[svp67]

Quote: lukke

Even if he was subordinate to Makarov (Serdyukov), he was first of all a subordinate, and therefore must strictly follow the orders of a superior, and if he does not agree, then appeal them.

I agree, but, unfortunately, the BIG bosses often keep NEEDED PEOPLE near them, whose main task is to carry out DARK assignments, they usually put such people in secondary posts or come up with posts for them, judging by the duties of this general

General Postnikov in the General Staff was responsible for interaction with NATO, missile defense problems, and the transfer of chemical weapons in Syria to international control.

This general from such ...

[Veter]

How many more people from the surroundings of Serdyukov-Makarov remain in the Moscow Region? Stables should be cleaned.

[svp67]

Quote: Veter

How many more people from the surroundings of Serdyukov-Makarov remain in the Moscow Region? Stables should be cleaned.

But, but ACCURATELY, according to your logic, it is SO REQUIRED to dismiss almost the entire Army, so they served 95% with Serdyukov-Makarov. It is just necessary to conduct a recertification of the LEADERSHIP to clarify which of them and how they understand the tasks facing the Armed Forces today, those who do not meet - offer other posts, do not agree - dismiss ...

[Veter]

Quote: svp67

But, but ACCURATE,

Of course, be careful, we are not the 37th year.
I meant not those who serve alongside, but those who adhere to the point of view of these "reformers", and, what is important, occupy leading positions that can influence the development of the Defense Ministry and the army as a whole.

[Bene valete]

And who will conduct recertification? )))

[chunga-changa]

What is this

resignation report "of their own free will"

In my opinion, the military is submitting, with the right to wear uniforms and a pension. This requires grounds, length of service, health status. Or dismissed from the ranks of the Armed Forces for defaming the title of an officer of the action. And then it turns out the war will begin, and the generals are dismissed "of their own accord", beauty. Interestingly, the rank and file "on their own" can quit.

[120352]

Nikolai Makarov, whose subordinate he was, although the Hero of Russia, but the main follower of Serdyukov in the destruction of the armed forces. Today, the concept has changed. The Armed Forces must be saved and restored, and he, apparently, is sharpened to the contrary. It would be nice, in addition to the hospital, which traditionally precedes dismissal, to conduct an investigation of his activities to destroy the armed forces, and there already make a decision: to dismiss or imprison. And Makarov is nearby.

[konvalval]

Quote: lukke

This news is useless. Even if he was subordinate to Makarov (Serdyukov), he was first of all a subordinate, and therefore must strictly follow the orders of a superior, and if he does not agree, then appeal them. Otherwise, there will be circus and chaos. Following your logic - more than half of the army after the arrival of Serdyukov should immediately write reports on dismissals. The bosses come and go - the army remains.

So it is true, but an honest general, seeing that the immediate superior was breaking up the army, had to at least resign. Of course, I do not mean lower-ranking officers who conscientiously carry out their military duty.

[konvalval]

Let him say thanks that he was not fired along with Makarov, but given the opportunity at his own request.

[konvalval]

Quote: siberalt

I do not understand. It seems like there are commanders and chiefs in our army. And then the deputy. "chapters". Maybe there are already democratic elections for the heads of the military departments? Or is the author not in the know?

What are you surprised wrote a civilian.

[military]

The military rank "Colonel General" was awarded to Postnikov by presidential decree of 12.06.2006 and by order of the Minister of Defense dated June 12.06.2006, XNUMX. Also by presidential decree and by order of the head of the Ministry of Defense In 2007, he was appointed commander of the troops of the Siberian Military District.

regular ravings ...

[dmitrij.blyuz]

Kiev took, Kazan took. Postnikov-did not take. My (personal) opinion - who worked with Serdyukov, should leave.

[Doznanied]

Quote: dmitrij.blyuz

those who worked with Serdyukov should leave.

I agree, but only with the amendment "and shared his interests."

[Commander]

An officer from Perdyukov’s entourage, if he had the honor, would have long filed a report on dismissal !!! Apparently, Comrade Postnikov never had any honor !!!

[AleksUkr]

My opinion is that it was high time to remove the legacy of the "reformer" Serdyukov.
Remember -
Colonel-General Alexander Postnikov, Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, believes that the latest weapons systems in Russia are inferior to similar foreign systems.

One T-90 for three Leopards

The latest weapons systems for the ground forces do not meet the parameters of similar systems of the countries of NATO and even China, Interfax reports citing a statement by the commander in chief of the ground forces Colonel-General Alexander Postnikov. “Those types of weapons that industry produces, including armored weapons, artillery and small arms, do not match the standards of NATO and even China,” he said.

As an example, the general said that the world-famous latest Russian T-90 tank is actually the 17th modification of the Soviet T-72. Moreover, its cost is currently 118 million rubles apiece. “It would be easier for us to buy three Leopards (the main battle tank made in Germany) for this money,” Postnikov said. (15-03-2011)

[igor.borov775]

Hi, how spectacularly everything is painted here, Military people are bonded, as our president says, And most importantly, clearly follow orders, now you can even speculate, and then Forgot, already the first one to announce the fallacy of some parts of the military reform politely listened to them and after some time they took up reforming, The most interesting thing was that no one rejected the reform, the doubt was caused by the ways of its implementation, The first were rightly told by military scientists and experts what worked with them, What kind of reaction was right for them and taken seriously, There were a lot of such people at Academies, So they boldly expressed doubts and fell like leaves in the fall, That’s how they achieved approval of any steps in the reform, And then it was simpler and easier, And in 2008 08,08 who became the culprit correctly The Head of the Military Intelligence was dismissed immediately on the second day of the conflict, which was the most wonderful reform then they enlarged or disconnected, then reassigned the devil himself will not understand what other form of management to accept, But the main thing is that American noodles densely clinging to our main liberal democrats in thick lumps flew off my ears, Sorry for such a comparison, but I hasten, And if you recall the story there were also such moments though the damage was terrible, Yes, the army paid attention to the teachings and they began to relate normally to the military, and the reforms, both successful and unsuccessful, went in full without stopping to at least see where it is good where not, So these two sisters walked together holding hands until they stopped in 12g, And the note itself did not give anything new so simple that strange but for some reason the KOMMERSANT is sometimes closer to the truth than everyone else,

[coserg 2012]

In general, I think, cleaning the ranks is a necessary event. It would be to dig up figures in uniform who sent ships in nails, writing off and deliberately coffin, something that could serve Russia for more than one year. If high officials are dumped, then the performers sit somewhere else grabbing his own, and on his pocket and shoulder strap.

[alone]

Naive people live in this world. Serdyukov, Makarov, postnikov. Do you seriously believe that these people were behind the reforms in the army? I suggest that you open your eyes and really look at things. Everything is decided by one person. And these were the executors. And they were switchmen. .

[rubin6286]

Each soldier dreams of becoming a general, a lieutenant - a colonel, a senior lieutenant - a lieutenant colonel, a captain-major, and a major - on time, with honor and pension, finish military service. I, a hereditary military man, have walked this path myself. Soldiers are not born. they are not born generals either - they are made generals. Those whom they made generals, consider yourself lucky, and those under their command? Think for yourself, decide for yourself.