Alexander Matrosov. Man for the feat

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Exactly 90 years ago, February 5 1924, Alexander Matrosov was born - a man who entered the Russian forever history. In Soviet times, the name was familiar to every student. Name Matrosov became a household name. 27 February 1943 of the year during the battle near the village of Chernushki on the territory of the Pskov region Red Army soldier Alexander Matrosov from the 91-th separate Siberian volunteer brigade named after Stalin committed the feat, coupled with heroic self-sacrifice. According to the official version, he covered with his breast the embrasure of the German bunker, rescuing his comrades from the fire and contributing to the combat mission assigned to the unit.

Alexander Matrosov was born in Yekaterinoslav (today Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine). Russian, was a member of the Komsomol. Sailors lost their parents quite early, after which, over the course of 5 years, he was brought up in the Ivanovo Regime Orphanage in the Ulyanovsk Region. In 1939, he was sent to the car repair plant located in Kuibyshev (today Samara), from where he for some reason had fled. In October of 1940, he was convicted under the 3 article of the RSFSR Criminal Code for violating the passport regime by sentencing the people's court of 192 to the district of the Frunzensky district of Saratov. Repeated violation of the regime provided for imprisonment for up to 2 years. After this judgment, Matrosov was serving a term in the Ufa children's labor colony. (In 1967, this sentence was canceled by the judicial board in criminal cases.) After the start of World War II, the Sailors made several written requests to be sent to the front.

As a result, his wish came true. In September, 1942, he was drafted into the ranks of the Red Army and sent to attend training at the Krasnokholmsky Infantry School. However, most of the cadets did not complete the training and were transferred to the Kalininsky front.

Alexander Matrosov was in the army since November 1942. Sailors served in the 2 Infantry Battalion, which was part of the 91-th separate Siberian Volunteer Brigade, named after Stalin (later the 254-th Guards Rifle Regiment of the 56-th Guards Rifle Division). For a while, this connection was listed in the reserve of the front, but then it was redeployed near Pskov in the area of ​​the Great Lomovaty Bor. The brigade was forced to engage the Germans directly from the march.

Alexander Matrosov. Man for the feat

27 February 1943, the 2 battalion of the brigade receives the combat mission of attacking a German defense stronghold in the area of ​​the village of Pleten, which is located west of Chernushka. As soon as the Soviet soldiers passed through the forest and appeared at the edge of the forest, they fell under very strong machine-gun fire from the Germans. The approaches to the village were securely covered with three machine gun bunkers. One of them managed to suppress by joint efforts of armored workers and a group of machine gunners, the second bunker was also destroyed by a group of armored men, but the machine gun from the third bunker did not stop pouring the ravine in front of the village with fire, keeping the infantry units advancing. Attempts to silence the firing point were not successful. Then, in the direction of the German bunker, the Red Army man Alexander Matrosov crawled in and managed to get close to the bunker’s embrasure itself and threw two grenades at it. For some time the German machine gun was silent. But as soon as the soldiers went on the attack, the machine gunner opened fire again from the bunker. Seeing this, Alexander Matrosov rose and jerked toward the firing point, covering the embrasure of the bunker with his body. As a result, at the cost of his own life, he contributed to the combat mission of the entire unit.

19 June 1943 of the year for the accomplishment of this feat Matrosov Alexander Matveyevich was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously). And already September of the same year 8 issued a decree number 269 on assigning the 254 Guards Rifle Regiment (the 91-I separate Siberian Volunteer Brigade received the name after the re-formation) named after Alexander Matrosov. At the same time, an ordinary guard, Alexander Matrosov, became the first Soviet soldier, whose name was forever on the lists of the military unit.

The feat that Alexander Matrosov accomplished very quickly became known to almost the entire country and ceased to belong to his hero. From the very beginning, the history of the combat episode was treated freely. For example, the feat was moved to 4 a day ago - on February 23 1943 of the year (on the 25 anniversary of the formation of the Red Army). For what purposes did you need to adjust the date of death of the hero? The question is rhetorical. It is absolutely clear that on the eve of such a date it was decided to use the death of a Komsomol from a unit named after Stalin for propaganda purposes.


Elements of untruth became the price that had to be paid for the appearance of the myth. At the same time, the “myth” in this particular case is by no means a derogatory assessment: what Alexander Matrosov accomplished in battle was a truly heroic act. And not the only one of its kind. In addition to Matrosov, another 300 Soviet soldiers and officers repeated a similar feat. In addition, the Sailors was not the first of them. Military documents confirm the facts of such self-sacrifice, which are among the most difficult 1941 battles of the year. However, the circumstances and time were such that it was the feat of Matrosov that formed the basis for the creation of a very strong heroic myth, for the creation of which it took a little lie, which was then considered quite an acceptable price for the birth of a legend.

However, as practice shows, no lie remains unanswered. Perhaps, as a delayed reaction to it, various “exposing” versions of this feat appeared in the perestroika years. The authors of these devastating hypotheses eagerly began to analyze the rather scanty documentary evidence of the hero’s death, searching for inconsistencies, examining the archives in search of the soldier’s hero’s “true” biography, questioning the very “effectiveness” of such a method of fighting the enemy’s bunkers.

The reasons for this approach can be found in the trends and moods that were characteristic of the end of the 20th century, when everything that had to do with Soviet history began to diligently unmask and dethrone. This was another explanation. Any significant events of our history that carry some deep creative meaning, any act that has a deep moral content, cause and, most likely, will cause a very complex attitude among people - first of all from those of us unable to go on such an act, who does not see in him any special meaning. Only the person who sacrifices himself can fully understand the meaning of self-sacrifice (rationality, efficiency, logic, expediency).


What did we inherit from Alexander Matrosov: reality or is it still a myth? The answer to this question is actually quite simple. No matter how unreliable the proofs of the death and life of Matrosov, corrected by official Soviet propaganda, seem to us today, one thing remains unchanged and unshakable: the fact of the death of a soldier in battle. Death, which provided the opportunity to live by others. At the same time, under the "other" can be understood not only the fellow soldiers of Alexander Matrosov, but also you and me. This is the reality, faced with which, all claims to the authenticity of the history of this feat lose their importance.

Any feat eventually creates a myth that provides him with immortality. And the process of debunking the exploits is deeply immoral and inhuman, not even in relation to the memory of the dead, but in relation to the memory of the living. Time today creates its heroes. And if all modern heroes turn out to be such that in order to convince the audience of their heroicity, the efforts of PR geniuses or enormous media resources are needed - well, well, that means this is such a time. Against this background, the feat accomplished by the guard, ordinary Alexander Matrosov, stands out for its integrity, simplicity and truthfulness. The propaganda manipulations of the Soviet era and the post-Soviet hysteria with “sober assessments of the past” could not harm the blessed memory of this feat. The soldier has done his duty to the end, so we remember him.

Information sources:
http://www.bestpeopleofrussia.ru/persona/1863/bio
http://www.taday.ru/text/2064419.html
http://ru.wikipedia.org
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  1. +12
    5 February 2014 07: 38
    Thank you for the article.
    This is a plaque on Alexander Matrosov Street in St. Petersburg.
    1. DimychDV
      +3
      5 February 2014 09: 02
      Take this article to the City Duma, let the date be corrected. And they will add Stalin's quote about the hero: "Sailors were and remains ..." (if anything, it was he about Mayakovsky that began the phrase. 8)))
      1. -18
        5 February 2014 09: 46
        And why the article does not indicate the nationality of our hero and his real name? So, by the way, about the Russian National Bolsheviks, who are constantly trying to raise exclusively one nationality, deliberately forgetting about the rest of our nation ....
        1. +4
          5 February 2014 10: 41
          "Alexander Matrosov Born in Yekaterinoslav (today Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine). Russian, was a member of the Komsomol. "
          1. 0
            5 February 2014 12: 06
            Quote: virm
            "Alexander Matrosov was born in Yekaterinoslav (today Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine). Russian, was a member of the Komsomol."


            I ask his nationality))) No wonder the monument to this hero stands in Ufa.
            Matrosov’s real name is Shakiryan Yunusovich Mukhamedyanov, [2] [3] and he was born in the village of Kunakbaevo of the Tamyan-Katai canton of the Bashkir Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (now the Uchalinsky district of Bashkortostan)

            1. +5
              5 February 2014 12: 42
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              Matrosov’s real name is Shakiryan Yunusovich Mukhamedyanov, [2] [3] and he was born in the village of Kunakbaevo of the Tamyan-Katai canton of the Bashkir Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (now the Uchalinsky district of Bashkortostan)

              What the hell are you talking about? Everything is written in the article:

              "In addition to Matrosov, about 300 more Soviet soldiers and officers repeated a similar podvig. Moreover, Matrosov was not the first of them. "
              1. -8
                5 February 2014 18: 07
                Quote: Vladimirets

                What the hell are you talking about? Everything is written in the article:

                A lot of things are also written on the fence, I wonder if there are residents of the Dnieper here, they will tell in more detail if they are in the subject. Toward the end of the 90s there was an attempt to find out where the Sailors were born in the Dnepropetrovsk region from the local museum, guess right away, they found or not ??? Nevertheless, this does not diminish the merit, and the deed of Matrosov, and he became Matrosov since he wore a vest, and at the recruiting station he was recorded as he was recorded, I don’t remember the details. And the feat was accomplished (it is supposed) without covering the embrasure with your chest (try to close the vertical wall with your body) and while trying to throw a grenade into the pillbox, from above through the ventilation hatch, he was killed and covered the ventilation with your body, and as a result the powder gases from firing did their job . There is such a version.
                1. -5
                  5 February 2014 19: 58
                  Quote: Vladimirets
                  What the hell are you talking about? Everything is written in the article:


                  1) Learn the history of your country.
                  2) Everything that pours out on the pages of the media does not need to be taken for granted.
              2. Fedya
                +3
                5 February 2014 22: 12
                In vain you were a documentary about Matrosov. In fact, he became Matrosov in an orphanage or boarding school! This in no way detracts from his feat! But by nationality he is a Bashkir!
                1. +1
                  6 February 2014 02: 27
                  Quote: Fedya
                  In vain you were a documentary about Matrosov.
                  You’re right, but unfortunately there are people who don’t see beyond their nose, they have only two opinions, mine and wrong.
              3. 0
                6 February 2014 06: 16
                why don’t you know? The Bashkirs hoisted the flag on the Reichstag, Stalin was the Bashkir, the Bashkirs won the war !! Russian just did not fight, they hid in the dugouts and drank moonshine !!!!!! )))))))))))))))))) And just - Hitler did not attack the USSR, he attacked separately the Bashkir Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and Stalin (although he was Bashkir himself) was an ally of Hitler, according to their joint plan they they wanted to exterminate all the Bashkirs from the planet Bashkiria. By the way, Hitler did not try to exterminate the Jews, it was Bashkirs who scented thousands in concentration camps !!!!!! learn the history of the Bashkir Federation do not disgrace: H)))))
            2. +4
              5 February 2014 12: 42
              This was our Bashkirs invented. He sat with us, from us and went to the front, here is the monument and stands for the "native". There is also a bust of Gubaidullin on the stele - he is definitely a Bashkir (although from the Miyakinsky region it may turn out to be a Tatar).
            3. 0
              5 February 2014 12: 43
              So what of this?
              1. +2
                6 February 2014 06: 19
                they want only the Bashkirs to be inscribed in the Names of Victory))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))) it was a Bashkir, and, you che, it was a Bashkir ... and to hell with him, Bashkir, then Bashkir! The Yakuts also contributed a lot to the victory and che))) before they were SOVIET SOLDIERS, and not Bashkirs, Yakuts, Russians or Mongols, damn it)))
                1. +1
                  6 February 2014 09: 42
                  Quote: Free Island
                  before it was the SOVIET SOLDIERS, and not the Bashkirs, Yakuts, Russians or Mongols damn)))

                  5 +++ It is no secret that by introducing interethnic contention, it is possible to destroy Russia. What EU partners are trying to do with the help of the 5th column.
            4. +1
              5 February 2014 20: 45
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              I ask his nationality)))

              Indeed, you ask some crap, it’s clearly written RUSSIAN then it was a nationality, and why all the peoples of the USSR fought for law
              1. +1
                5 February 2014 22: 04
                probably trying to troll
        2. 0
          6 February 2014 02: 34
          Sailors is a SOVIET person, a worthy representative of a really created new historical community - the GREAT SOVIET PEOPLE, which is so violently destroyed by enemies and simply nationally anxious psychopaths, who have nothing to be proud of except their nationality.
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  2. +5
    5 February 2014 07: 54
    Here it is REAL HEROES !!!
  3. waisson
    +8
    5 February 2014 08: 15
    on such heroes we were brought up in due time soldier
  4. +7
    5 February 2014 08: 22
    This is not a myth. This is BYLINA!
  5. +6
    5 February 2014 08: 37
    Blessed memory to the Heroes!
    “There is no more love than if a man lay down his life for his friends” (John 15:13).
  6. +4
    5 February 2014 08: 40
    And why does no one dispute the 12 exploits of Hercules? His exploits also have a number of contradictions. wink
    1. -1
      5 February 2014 11: 52
      Because Hercules is a MYTHICAL hero. And you read about him in the book by Nikolai Kuhn "Heroes and Myths of Ancient Greece". And here they are trying to make a myth out of a myth.
      As for the contradictions - I was always interested in the question, that the Sailors lay down on the embrasure, and what, from the machine-gun line, the body would not have been thrown away from the bunker?
      1. +5
        5 February 2014 12: 03
        Quote: Сriceta
        and what, from the machine gun burst, the body would not be thrown away from the bunker?

        No. "Mythbusters" refuted the Hollywood myth that the human body, when hit by a bullet, throws it several meters. The momentum of the bullet is small (the mass of the bullet is very small) in comparison with the momentum of a person (do not forget that a person is 70% water and bullets only partially transmit their momentum). According to the law of conservation of momentum, the machine gunner would have been thrown out of the bunker altogether.
      2. +4
        5 February 2014 12: 44
        Not cast off, as the war in Berlin ended.
      3. mamba
        +1
        5 February 2014 14: 20
        Quote: Сriceta
        I was always interested in the question, that Matrosov lay down on the embrasure, but what, from the machine-gun line, the body would not have been thrown away from the bunker?

        Just a point at the machine gunner leapt or the roof slid off from what he saw. In addition, he was probably shell-shocked after the explosion of two grenades inside the bunker.
        Usually, when blocking the embrasure with sandbags, the DZOT garrison pushed them out with poles. In this case, apparently, the Germans did not find poles, just as our armor-piercers did not help destroy this bunker.
        1. +3
          5 February 2014 15: 47
          Quote: mamba
          as our armor-piercers did not help destroy this bunker.

          In this battle, two bunkers with frontally located embrasures were suppressed by the PTR. And this bunker fired flanking fire, and the embrasure was not available for PTR.
        2. +2
          5 February 2014 16: 24
          Quote: mamba
          In addition, he was probably shell-shocked after the explosion of two grenades inside the bunker.

          If we take into account that the bunker least resembles Vasilyeva’s apartment in Moscow in terms of area, then after the explosion of two (!) Grenades in it, the machine gunner should have been more than just shell-shocked. He simply had to ... excitement! I experienced something similar on myself, but this one - .... That is why, personally, not begging for a feat, I consider its description a complete bullshit, a leaflet from Agitprom.
    2. 0
      6 February 2014 06: 20
      there is no need to engage in nationalism here, huh ??? Hercules was a BASHKIR !! Th not understandable ???))))))))))))))
  7. +9
    5 February 2014 08: 44
    Yes, the creation of such heroic chronicles was the Achilles heel of Soviet propaganda, as well as Russian. Yes, Alexander Matrosov accomplished a feat, sacrificed his life and really deserves the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. But according to the rules of Soviet propaganda, he must be a native of workers or peasants, must not drink, smoke, must not be judged, and of course must be a member of the Komsomol and issue a battle leaflet, and also have "golden eggs". Therefore, there was such an attitude towards real heroes, and they were simple guys with their own merits and demerits, with good and not very inclinations, but in a difficult time they performed a feat.
    Eternal memory to the heroes.
  8. -4
    5 February 2014 08: 55
    Nevertheless, it would be better if he reached Berlin.
    And the question is purely technical - after the death of Matrosov, why did the German machine gun fall silent? How long would it take for a machine gun to turn a human body into rags and continue to fire? The psychological factor most likely worked here - the machine gunner in the bunker was shocked, and for a while was simply not able to continue to fire. I find no other explanation.
    1. +4
      5 February 2014 09: 45
      Quote: Prometey
      How long would it take for a machine gun to turn a human body into rags and continue to fire?

      Quite a lot. What can a machine gunner see through the "rags" of a human body in a narrow embrasure?
      How much can you discuss? http://topwar.ru/24583-aleksandr-matrosov-realnost-i-vymysel.html#comment-id-943

      388

      1. 0
        5 February 2014 10: 53
        Quote: igordok
        How much can you discuss?

        I have not read that article. And minus apparently because he wished that the Sailors did not die, but lived to see the end of the war. Of course, the strange logic of the local audience.
        1. +1
          5 February 2014 11: 06
          I put the minus. Not that the Sailors died, he made his choice. And for the fact that, as noted by badger1974
          Quote: badger1974
          emptying the box into the body is a futile undertaking, the shelling sector from this will not improve
          1. +1
            5 February 2014 11: 21
            Quote: igordok
            I put the minus

            And I didn’t mean you.
            And for the answer
            Quote: igordok
            emptying the box into the body is a futile undertaking, the shelling sector from this will not improve
            Thanks, clarified the question.
    2. badger1974
      +3
      5 February 2014 09: 49
      emptying the box into the body is a futile undertaking, the shelling sector will not improve, there are two options: either to get out of the bunker and pull the body away, which is almost impossible when two or three hundred pairs of angry eyes of the enemy are looking at you, or to leave the point — the Germans chose the second
      1. +4
        5 February 2014 09: 59
        Quote: badger1974
        when two three hundred pairs of angry eyes of the enemy are looking at you

        A little bit wrong.
        when two three hundred pissed looks at you trunks adversary
        1. badger1974
          +7
          5 February 2014 11: 41
          it is possible this way, the situation is even more specific, I got attached to this name as a youth, at school our pioneer detachment was named after Alexander Matrosov, and in the pioneer of the camps, too, by a strange coincidence, I got to Matrosov’s links, and the first award for I received work for heroism in putting out a fire on Matrosov Street, something like that, maybe the choice of profession was unconsciously influenced by Sani Matrosov, so in my understanding the Sailors are a Hero, and those who are incapable of such nonsense such people outlook does not exceed 10 degrees out of 360
    3. spd2001
      +7
      5 February 2014 11: 18
      Quote: Prometey
      Nevertheless, it would be better if he reached Berlin.
      And how many of these did not reach Berlin, Vienna, Prague, etc.?! But thanks to them, others came. It may be difficult for us sitting in a warm room in front of the monitor to understand the expediency of such actions during the Second World War, but this does not cancel the feat of Matrosov, or, say, Alexei Kramarenko, who in 1944 repeated the feat of Alexander Matrosov on the Finnish front - he wounded, rushed to the attack and died when destroying an enemy firing point. Alexey Kramarenko posthumously awarded the Order of the Patriotic War.
      Monument to A. Kramarenko in the town of Primorsko-AkhtarskMonument to A. Kramarenko in the town of Primorsko-Akhtarsk
    4. +5
      5 February 2014 17: 27
      For all those interested in the technical side of the issue - an entertaining home experiment:
      1. We take a gun from the safe (if not, we borrow from a neighbor);
      2. We charge cartridges with a fraction smaller;
      3. Insert the barrel into our cf ... ku;
      4. Push the trigger;
      5. We fiscate the received data - recoil force, accuracy of defeat, etc .;
      6. There are questions left - repeat the experiment! laughing laughing laughing

      And Sailors - Hero, whatever one may say. In general, a person who voluntarily sacrificed his life in the name of the Motherland is a saint, although he will never be canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church.
      So leave alone the memory of our Heroes, these are Heroes without any "buts", "ifs" and agitprop!
    5. +1
      5 February 2014 17: 27
      For all those interested in the technical side of the issue - an entertaining home experiment:
      1. We take a gun from the safe (if not, we borrow from a neighbor);
      2. We charge cartridges with a fraction smaller;
      3. Insert the barrel into our cf ... ku;
      4. Push the trigger;
      5. We fiscate the received data - recoil force, accuracy of defeat, etc .;
      6. There are questions left - repeat the experiment! laughing laughing laughing

      And Sailors - Hero, whatever one may say. In general, a person who voluntarily sacrificed his life in the name of the Motherland is a saint, although he will never be canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church.
      So leave alone the memory of our Heroes, these are Heroes without any "buts", "ifs" and agitprop!
  9. Asan Ata
    +2
    5 February 2014 10: 08
    Wiki Extract:

    According to the official version, Alexander Matveevich Matrosov was born on February 5, 1924 in the city of Yekaterinoslav (now Dnepropetrovsk), brought up in Ivanovsky (Main district) and Melekessky orphanages in the Ulyanovsk region and in the Ufa children's labor colony. After completing 7 classes, he worked in the same colony as an assistant educator.

    According to another version, Matrosov’s real name is Shakiryan Yunusovich Mukhamedyanov, and he was born in the village of Kunakbaevo of the Tamyan-Kataysky canton of the Bashkir Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (now the Uchalinsky district of Bashkortostan). According to this version, he took the surname Matrosov when he was a street child (after he escaped from his house after his father’s new marriage) and enrolled under it when identifying him in an orphanage. At the same time, Matrosov himself called himself Matrosov.

    There is also a version that Alexander Matrosov was born in the village of Vysokiy Kolok in the Stavropol district of the Samara province (currently the territory of the Novomalyklinsky district of the Ulyanovsk region). Sasha's mother, left with three children without a husband, gave him to the Melekessky orphanage in order to save him from hunger. From there, he was transferred to the Ivanovo orphanage in the Main district.


    This information does not diminish his feat, but he does know that the Nazis can bring anyone to a boil. So, I think, on the Maidan they will also get it.
    1. -1
      5 February 2014 12: 46
      Quote: Asan Ata
      This information does not diminish his feat, but he does know that the Nazis can bring anyone to a boil

      This information is pulled just from all the "research" of neoliberal unfinished historians.
      1. -1
        5 February 2014 12: 59
        Neoliberal? The fact that he is a Bashkir go stories since they dug up a feat. Everyone just wants to have their own hero, that’s all.
  10. +6
    5 February 2014 10: 08
    We would not forget about the exploit of Matrosov in the new school textbook on history.
    1. Svyatoslavovich
      0
      5 February 2014 10: 40
      Most likely they will not forget, but they will not specifically indicate that they have such an approach.
    2. badger1974
      +3
      5 February 2014 11: 51
      unfortunately, in our Ukrainian history textbooks for secondary schools, not only heroes are not indicated, but a complete perversion of the Great Patriotic War itself, such nonsense - Goebels probably jumps to the ceiling in that world, his boys have to tell stories how and what happened, it’s good that teachers history of the old school
  11. +1
    5 February 2014 10: 08
    We would not forget about the exploit of Matrosov in the new school textbook on history.
  12. +3
    5 February 2014 11: 51
    The monument on the site of the death of Alexander Matrosov in the 60's looked like this.
    1. +2
      5 February 2014 11: 54
      Post-war photograph of the bunker.
  13. fla
    fla
    -1
    5 February 2014 12: 09
    I read about such an interpretation of Matrosov’s feat.
    The attack went penalties. Almost unarmed Sailors was able to crawl to the bunker and he tried to pull the German machine gun out ... While there was a fight, our attack went up ...
  14. +5
    5 February 2014 12: 49
    What kind of nation are we washing our bones to our national heroes, questioning their feat. Why do we need this? We do not need this, but our enemies need a name that is legion.
  15. 0
    5 February 2014 13: 06
    Oh, sorry that he did not have a couple of grenades by himself ...
    1. +1
      5 February 2014 13: 49
      The article says - were, threw, did not hit.
  16. +5
    5 February 2014 13: 27
    sledgehammer102
    "I ask his nationality))) It is not for nothing that there is a monument to this hero in Ufa.
    Matrosov's real name is Shakiryan Yunusovich Mukhamedyanov, [2] [3] and he was born in the village of Kunakbaevo, Tamyan-Kataysky canton of the Bashkir ASSR (now the Uchalinsky district of Bashkortostan) "

    But Rurik and the Vikings were Ichkeria from Gudermes. Chowshtam ...
  17. parus2nik
    +1
    5 February 2014 14: 04
    If you remove all the lies from history, this does not mean that only the truth remains, that nothing can remain at all.
    1. mamba
      +1
      5 February 2014 14: 52
      Quote: parus2nik
      If you remove all the lies from history, this does not mean that only the truth remains, that nothing can remain at all.

      You forgot to mention the name of the author of this aphorism. This is Stanislav Jerzy Lets.
      We can mention the statements of other greats:
      - The facts do not exist - there are only interpretations. - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche;
      - What will the story say? “History will lie, as always.” - George Bernard Shaw.
      My post does not detract from the heroic deed of the hero Alexander Matrosov. Glory be to him for centuries! But Soviet propaganda acted precisely in that direction.
      1. parus2nik
        0
        5 February 2014 15: 45
        I did not think to appropriate authorship ... smile And then, if you are completely objective ... not the essence of whose propaganda ... Soviet, American, German ... propaganda always and everywhere acts in the right direction, in any country and at the moment ..
  18. +1
    5 February 2014 14: 50
    Quote: Сriceta
    Because Hercules is a MYTHICAL hero. And you read about him in the book by Nikolai Kuhn "Heroes and Myths of Ancient Greece". And here they are trying to make not a myth out of a myth. As for the contradictions, I was always interested in the question, so Sailors lay down on the embrasure, and what, from a machine-gun burst, the body would not throw away from the bunker?

    What a you, however!
    Constantly gall sprinkle at any events.
    Everything is wrong for you!
    Do not drop, the distance is small and the speed of the bullet is such that it pierces right through.
    Plus, the arrow’s review is closed, and this is an opportunity to go up to the bunker and throw grenades.
  19. +2
    5 February 2014 15: 27
    Military documents confirm the facts of such a sacrifice ...
    It is incomprehensible to liberals of all stripes (incomprehensible causes fear) what self-sacrifice is, they are used to sacrifice others, but not themselves, therefore they try to defame people who have committed such a feat with all their might, and a feat is nothing more than a person’s willingness to sacrifice his life for the sake of saving life others! And we living now should be proud of such people. Glory to the heroes. hi
  20. +3
    5 February 2014 15: 28
    Tuleberdiev Cholponbai - shooter of the 363rd Infantry Regiment of the 160th Infantry Division of the 6th Army of the Voronezh Front, a Red Army soldier.

    He was born on April 13, 1922 in the village of Chimkent, now - Chymgent of the Talas region of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan, in a peasant family. Kyrgyz. He graduated from 7 classes. He worked on a collective farm.

    In the Red Army since 1941. In the army since December 1942.

    The shooter of the 636th Infantry Regiment (160th Infantry Division, 6th Army, Voronezh Front), a Komsomol member of the Red Army, Tuleberdiev Cholponbai distinguished himself on 6 August 1942 in a battle in the village of Selyavnoye, Liskinsky District, Voronezh Region. Among 11 soldiers, he swam across the Don River and came under machine-gun fire from a bunker. Tuleberdiev crawled to him, threw a grenade, but failed to destroy the machine gun. Then, despising mortal danger, fulfilling soldier's duty, the courageous warrior rushed to the embrasure and covered it with his body ...

    He was buried on the top of Lysaya Gora in the vicinity of the village of Storozhevoye, Voronezh Region.
  21. +2
    5 February 2014 15: 41
    In August 1942, the troops of the 6th Army fought hard battles in the Don area. It was necessary to force the river and seize the bridgehead for the subsequent offensive. On August 6, a group of shooters in the amount of 11 people, which included the Red Armyman Tuleberdiev, at night under heavy machine gun and mortar fire from the enemy sailed across the west coast and, without stopping, began to advance into the depths of the Nazis' defense, which had established itself at a chalk height.

    Advancing almost to the top, a group of daredevils was met by machine-gun and automatic fire from an enemy masked bunker. It was not possible to destroy or at least suppress the enemy firing point with small arms fire. There was a threat of disruption to the planned operation. The fearless warrior Tuleberdiev volunteered to destroy the enemy, who had settled in the bunker. He crawled to the bunker at a distance of 15-20 meters and threw two grenades one after the other into the embrasure. The enemy machine gunner continued to fire. Then Tuleberdiev without hesitation rushed forward and covered the embrasure of the bunker with his body. The comrades who arrived in time destroyed the bunker garrison and opened the way for crossing the river to the main forces of the regiment.
  22. ABV
    +3
    5 February 2014 15: 50
    What kind of people are you that such "backing tracks" ????????????
    Here they are sitting here on-line and minus people for saying, WOW?
    On this site, people exchange opinions. if you don’t like the opinion, give me a counterargument! what censorship ???
    "naminusuyut" - peck at a person and he is further afraid to express his opinion, why? what are you here for "gentlemen-gods" know everything better than anyone ???
    DO NOT HINDER PEOPLE SHOWING THEIR OPINION. If the opinion does not coincide with yours, be honest and decent people. and for lovers of poglumitsa - forward to the sites of "soap" and "rambler" - there are no such eagles in the discussions ...
  23. +1
    5 February 2014 16: 43
    Of course, they are negating me now, but my personal opinion is that the elimination of the firing point chosen by Alexander Matrosov is extremely ineffective, judging by the brief description of the battle, the two points were destroyed in more traditional ways and the last bunker would also be destroyed. Of course, in a patriotic sense, this is certainly a feat but military training is failure, including the commanders in charge of this operation. This is to say that after the Finnish company quite competent and at that time modern instructions were developed to combat bunkers and bunkers and not where I didn’t see the embrasure in them, close them. But use the flanks and terrain, a deep detour and even such exotic things as blinding by a spotlight or reflected sunlight please
    1. 0
      5 February 2014 19: 08
      Quote: Klim
      Of course, now they are for me minus but personally my opinion is that the liquidation of the firing point chosen by Alexander Matrosov is extremely ineffective

      I will not be minus. In my commentary above, I wrote that I wanted a brave soldier like Sailors to meet the end of the war in Berlin. But the local audience does not accept such comments.
      The method of eliminating the firing point chosen by Matrosov was effective, but in 1943, when the code was armed with howitzers, tanks, flamethrowers, it was an anachronism. The commanders and political officers, in the unit of which the bunkers were destroyed in this way, should be sent to the tribunals.
      1. badger1974
        +1
        5 February 2014 21: 44
        before calling something an anachronism, look around, the "shelter" complex after the Chernobyl accident was completed in November of the same year, the same 1986, pragmatic and not poor Japan, advanced in electronics, still "stains" its oceans! "Fukushima ", three years have already passed and they still have a cart where it was three years ago, radioactive muck is pouring incessantly, the question is why? due to the fact that egoists will never have a desire to do something for another, advanced electronics cannot work in dense high-pulse radiation, but they do not have people for this, but we have and will have Matrosovs, chase the oil in your head at your leisure, compare facts, then it may not be good to call howitzers, bombers, Katyushas to the bunker
        1. 0
          6 February 2014 07: 57
          Quote: badger1974
          Japan is still "littering" oceans with its "Fukushima", three years have already passed and they still have things where they stood three years ago, radioactive muck is pouring incessantly, the question is why? because egoists never have a desire to do something for another

          I saw nothing but a welter.
          1. badger1974
            0
            6 February 2014 13: 57
            maybe isumbur, but only here the elimination of atomic similar tragedies is clearly breaking out, especially since the Japanese have no mention of any elimination, are you talking about localization and that disastrous confusion?
    2. badger1974
      +3
      5 February 2014 21: 11
      "everyone imagines himself to be a strategist seeing the battle from the side" - seconds decide everything, and running around to replenish ammunition is stupid, the second luck may not be (get close to the firing point), what a damn searchlight? what is the reflected sunlight? give you free rein so you would have shied away at the bunker with a nuclear bomb, in the combat manuals there is such a risk that must be justified, in relation to Matrosov he is such, just like the pilots and tankers who rammed, also, as if not according to the charter wise, moreover, damage to equipment, but in the ranks of the enemy, nervousness is created from the fact that the Soviet military will easily go to the ram, and nervousness is a failure to fulfill a combat mission
  24. +2
    5 February 2014 17: 51
    Klim KZ is absolutely to the point. You need the ability to fight, and not with bodies.
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  26. Simonov
    -1
    5 February 2014 18: 04
    Guys, well, how much can you beat commissar propaganda. About Matrosov, Pavlik Morozov, the wise leader, human Lenin.
    Let's trust witnesses and eyewitnesses.
    As a child, I often went to the general bathhouse and I had occasion to listen to the stories, memoirs of grandfathers about the war. It was real truth, a trench truth. I also had the opportunity to lie in the same room with my grandfather, who during the war was the deputy chief of BezymyanLag in the vicinity of Kuibyshev. I heard about the war from both front-line soldiers and the rear enkavedesh rat. Absolutely different memories.
    And now how many more living heroes of the Afghan Chechen? Real heroes! Who is listening to them? They will leave and again ... Lizy will compose myths.
  27. Simonov
    0
    5 February 2014 18: 05
    continuation of the picture The font turns out for some reason very small. Click on the picture. When it opens, right-click on it and select "open picture in a new tab" It turns out a readable size.
    Read to everyone.
  28. +1
    5 February 2014 19: 38
    Quote: Vladimirets
    "In addition to Matrosov, about 300 more Soviet soldiers and officers repeated a similar podvig. Moreover, Matrosov was not the first of them. "

    It is necessary to name all the Soviet soldiers and officers who accomplished this feat.
  29. Kopeck
    0
    5 February 2014 19: 42
    Why minus Simonov?
  30. +2
    5 February 2014 20: 24
    There were thousands of sailors in those days, when liberals tell us that we stupidly retreated to Moscow, and then the NKVD machine guns made us turn back, this is real nonsense, and about the dirt and about the general frost, all lies, remember hoya -the battle of Smolensk, and the surprise of the Germans that this is not France, and something is going wrong, and this is all thanks to people like Sailors who didn’t run like Europeans with their hands up, but defended their land, now they’ll write that ours fled I agree that somewhere they fled, but somewhere they rested and then they drove back a little, and they reached Berlin, and then the French joined as winners, why didn’t you defend your Paris, did you decide that Hitler was the winner? and ours didn’t and they rushed to the bunker with their breasts, that’s where patriotism and love for the motherland are.
    1. badger1974
      +1
      5 February 2014 22: 00
      and especially about Fukushima, laughter and sin, the station is still awaiting radiation, they are trying to do something by cyber bots, but nothing, electronics completely refuses to work in hard radiation, people need heroes, but they are not there, that's all love
  31. +1
    5 February 2014 21: 54
    It sometimes seems to me that the soldiers from the bloody fields that didn’t come to our land fell down when they turned into white cranes, yes, Alexander Matrosov is a real hero and it doesn’t matter who was born by nationality, he was a Soviet man and died for his Soviet motherland! !! soldier
    1. badger1974
      0
      6 February 2014 00: 33
      and most importantly, there are followers who can sacrifice themselves for the lives of others, it's not about martyrs, but about pilots, military, firemen and just people who can sacrifice themselves, so that Sailors is a common name
  32. fall
    -2
    8 February 2014 07: 00
    So he was a Tatar, he was, as usual, recorded in the Slavs !!!!!!!!!! Well, if so, then the Great Patriotic War also needs to be renamed - German-Russian !!!!!!!!!!! or German-Slavic !!!!!!!!!!
    1. badger1974
      +1
      9 February 2014 23: 33
      you misunderstand something along the way - the Soviet man did not have a nationality for the enemy, for the enemy the Soviet warrior for the enemy was - "Russian" if simpler "Ivan" - and it does not matter that it was a sniper Surkov (702 souls pr) Salbiev (600 souls pr ) or Kvachantiradze (530 souls pr) - they were "ivans" for the enemy, no matter that the fighter pilot Amet-Khan-Sultan 9 GIAP (32 shot down 2 heroes of the USSR) or the attack pilot Tamerlan Ishmukhamedov (hero of the USSR 180 successful combat , for an attack aircraft it's a lot) - for the enemy it's "Ivan" "Russian" - the list can be continued forever, but for the enemy the Soviet warrior was and is and will be "Ivan" or simply "Russian"