New Russian military uniform is being tested by frost

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The new form of the Russian army is being tested by frost. For Russia, winter air temperatures below –30 ° C and below are not something extraordinary, although today such frosts are more often called abnormal. In the Russian reality, such frosty weather can be established almost anywhere. In Siberia, where Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu recently visited, in the winter such weather is an ordinary thing.

February 1 The Minister personally visited the 2014-th separate motorized rifle brigade (became famous during the hostilities in the North Caucasus), stationed in Kemerovo Yurga. Soldiers and officers of the compound met the Minister of Defense in a new winter uniform, which helps the military to cope with any cold.

Sergei Shoigu arrived in Yurga to deliver the Order of Kutuzov to the military unit. The 74 Motorcycle Brigade received this award for its glorious historywhich originates in the years of the Great Patriotic War during the battles of Stalingrad and continues here and now in the city of Ugra in the territory of the Central Military District. February 1 on the territory of Western Siberia established a very cold weather. During the visit, the thermometer froze at –34 ° C, the situation was aggravated by a shrill and fairly strong wind. But they did not carry the festive events under the roof. All the activities took place on the brigade's parade ground, the soldiers marched here in a new warmed military uniform. At first, in the 74 Brigade, they wore it as an experiment, now all 9 clothing options, which are designed to be worn in any weather, are finally approved.

Today, for each situation there is its own combination of clothes. This is the essence of the new Russian form. For example, if it is cool outside the window, the soldier simply puts on a jacket without a lining or with a lining, if it is windy outside, then you can wear a jacket under the jacket. If it rains, a soldier puts on a waterproof overalls. If a soldier is completely cold, he can use a fleece shirt, etc. If the soldier has an active phase of service, forced marches, exercises, then his uniform is used for him, and if the soldier sits in the classroom or works in the barracks, then his own, which is easier, says Mikhail Khodorenok, the chief editor of the newspaper industrial courier ".

New Russian military uniform is being tested by frost

If we talk about specific changes in the details of the military field uniform, then they can be counted quite a lot. Start, for example, with earflaps, which received long ears. In the lowered form, they easily overlap each other and fasten with a special velcro, perfectly protecting the soldier’s chin in extreme cold. At the same time, if the sun is shining brightly outside, a soldier may simply bend the upper flap of the earflaps, as a result of which he will receive a sun visor. Fur fabric is still used in the earflaps, but now it looks more like a tsiguka, that is, it is pleasant and soft to the touch. Pretty serious changes have also occurred in outerwear, notes independent military expert Dmitry Litovkin. According to him, the main difference lies in the fact that earlier the standard army jacket was actually a cotton jacket. Now the modern jacket of the Russian soldier can easily be disassembled into several parts, she was able to transform and became similar to the designer. Now, depending on the weather on the street, a Russian soldier can either add warming elements to the jacket, or, on the contrary, take off all the warm details, turning the jacket into a windbreaker.

All 16 items of the new Russian field uniform can easily be placed in a compact backpack, the weight of which will directly change depending on the weather. If the weather was pretty warm outside, then the backpack is heavy, if it’s cold outside, it’s light, as at that time almost all the clothes are on the soldier. Instead of the boots that were usual for the Russian army, new warm boots came with special inserts. In the warmed version of the field uniform was included a vest, which, unlike the jacket, does not constrain the movements of servicemen. A soldier can protect a special scarf from the strong wind of the soldier, while the soldier can use a comfortable balaclava during field training. Winter soldier overalls were made waterproof.


Part of the scout Viktor Kasyanov noted that now it does not matter how long you are in the snow, sit on your lap or lie down, since all the clothes remain dry and warm. In frosty weather and the food of the soldiers is special. During his visit to Yurga, Sergei Shoigu was shown a brigade’s canteen, in which soldiers are already fed on the principle of a “buffet”. At the same time, close to traditional salads are coarsely chopped garlic, onions and lard. According to the chef, these ingredients are part of a special fortified menu, which allows the young body of military personnel to better endure the Siberian frosts and maintain strength even at minus thirty degrees.

74-I separate motorized rifle brigade - not the only part that received the most modern Russian form. This winter, the 242 training center of the Airborne Forces also tests the latest winter uniforms and footwear, as well as using bactericidal lamps and a special diet. A real battle for the health of Russian soldiers took place here, since even during the most severe winter frosts, the training of future paratroopers does not stop for a single day.

On frosty winter days, a new military uniform is also being tested for strength. Set of 19 items entered service this winter. According to the military, the new winter form is able to endure the most severe frosts. Warm socks, underwear, sheepskin coat, hats, mittens, several jackets, as well as a set of non-frozen winter military shoes should make the winter service more comfortable. When developing new military footwear, the most modern technologies were used, which allow the soldier to keep his feet warm even in the most severe frosts. The head of the clothing service of the training center Anatoly Abrosimov noted that the new shoes have a multi-layer structure and a special insole made of several materials that do not release heat from the shoes.


So that at the required moment of time the fighter finds himself in the ranks, and not in a hospital bed, a real preventive war against acute respiratory disease was launched at the training center. Barracks parts are periodically processed using a bactericidal lamp. Also, the temperature regime is strictly adhered to, which has reduced the incidence of colds infections. For the entire center in the sanitary unit there was only an 4 cadet diagnosed with acute respiratory infections. The head of the medical service of the unit, Aleksey Konorev, said that the air temperature in the sleeping rooms does not fall below 18 degrees, while the rooms of the barracks are ventilated for at least 7 times during the day.

Currently, the main task of the 242 training center is to train junior specialists for airborne units and formations. We can say that this is a modern forge of personnel of the landing forces. Training of cadets in this center lasts from December to March. At the same time practical classes are held outdoors. Every day in the cold, soldiers spend hours on 4-6. At the same time, once in a quarter of an hour, the personnel of the unit can go to the heating points. Such points are equipped at each site, here the soldier can not just warm up, but also drink tea, Vadim Begma, the commander of the 1 battalion, told reporters. Over the immunity of the soldiers works and the menu of the dining room, which included special fortified salads, as well as an additional issue of garlic and onions.

Information sources:
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1239758
http://radiovesti.ru/article/show/article_id/118624
http://maxpark.com/community/832/content/2491698
http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=11898939@egNews
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  1. +6
    5 February 2014 07: 35
    Glad for our soldiers! That's how, with trifles, our army will again become all stronger.
    1. +14
      5 February 2014 08: 03
      from the Don.
      Not a fig yourself, a trifle! To understand this, it is necessary to serve!
    2. Brother77
      +2
      5 February 2014 10: 11
      Well, of course, it will become stronger — as the boiler with food options is dragging it will become so, especially as the unit on the new IWT samples on the breakout site will become stronger from all the options in clothes and food, you yourself understand the whole load on fighter or all cheers cheers cheers.
    3. MVV
      MVV
      +9
      5 February 2014 12: 04
      I’m glad not happy to see you now a new uniform on the officers “office” called shivrons with Velcro no army has as many as we have now, and the funny thing is that it is blue and you have to wear it under a coat of green khaki, they made clowns out of us.
      1. +9
        5 February 2014 18: 14
        Oh, I just want to remember the wisdom "Who served in the Army, he does not laugh in the circus" ..... Good in any case. This is progress from heavy quilted jackets, and wet knees, like a sniper I say .. fall somewhere in the snow or some puddle, you will understand everything yourself. "And also in the field of velcro we are in front of the whole planet." wassat
    4. +4
      5 February 2014 13: 49
      I agree, I also really like this form in appearance.

      in the last photo, the fighters look like a Wehrmacht soldier laughing
      if there is a resemblance, then let it be that, just as the Germans were very good at providing troops with everything, from weapons to uniforms, and disciplinedly trained in war on any front, winter, desert, summer. wink
      1. Svyatoslavovich
        +1
        5 February 2014 14: 48
        Do not repeat the myth that
        the Germans provided the troops with everything, from weapons to uniforms, and in a disciplined manner trained in war on any front, winter, desert, summer
        , it does not correspond to reality in any way.
      2. +5
        5 February 2014 23: 20
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        if there is a resemblance, then let it be that, just as the Germans were very good at providing troops with everything, from weapons to uniforms, and disciplinedly trained in war on any front, winter, desert, summer.

        If you are talking about the Second World War, then it would be worth mentioning this Wehrmacht "special footwear" ...
        1. +1
          6 February 2014 13: 21
          laughing Very well pricked! good
  2. +6
    5 February 2014 08: 30
    Good job! We need to start with little things, and normal form and food for a soldier is 40% success.

    As you remember the old "vaunted" times ... lunar rovers, space stations, weapons on performance characteristics are better than those of all possible opponents, and behind the levers and triggers a soldier in a tarpaulin and footcloths (and at +30 willows -30), as under the king's father.
    Damn, but you’ll get your boots on (one size 45 on all), then you barely lift your leg in them, and also in the snow ...
    And you don’t need to talk about food, as you’ll throw yourself into a mountainside (especially in the first year of service), so local shops on sweets “Dunkina's joy” and cookies make an annual plan in a day.)))
    Naturally I’m not talking about the Palace Showpieces, everything is top type there.
    1. +9
      5 February 2014 09: 34
      Yes, bastard you blame everything on "vaunted" times, those were great times, everything depended on specific people, in a specific setting, if you want, I will not change the old uniform now, that is, "tarpaulin" and "footcloths" for all these newfangled kits, I am sure that in a combat situation all of them will be abandoned and the soldier will remain in what he is wearing. Would you like something to feed the soldier with salmon instead of herring and caviar instead of pearl barley? Then you are not an army door, but a direct road to the diplomatic corps.
      1. Brother77
        +5
        5 February 2014 10: 06
        Well, they introduced a new uniform with as many as 9 modifications — cool, now the commander, through the officer on duty for the hour, determines — tomorrow the divorced sandals with socks, a lap belt with velvet and a summer earflaps with 4 snap-on visors — and here at night the foreman of the company OH ... I ate from the options (modernization and innovation, damn it), and even the check came and raised the alarm part and let the thief from birth look for flaws in the soldiers ’clothes and found them 9 pieces of options exponentially, here’s the commander’s insolvency of yours and yours by the foremen and commanders of the Nuka’s horseradish, take the epaulettes for dislike of innovation and modernization, and I forgot the soldier — on alarm, he took his 9 options, dressed the whole new BZK, took the wearable BK (and in the emergency zone 1,5 BK and legs then him and parted and time is then reduced to the rise ,,,,,
      2. +10
        5 February 2014 10: 19
        Exactly, let's leave everything as it was before - why should a soldier create normal conditions of service - we will continue to live as under Tsar Pea: “The soldiers shave with an awl, the soldiers warm themselves with smoke ...” Another roll over the shoulder would have returned the Budenovka, which was also considered irreplaceable until the fried kochet got bite into the Finnish war ... For once, the command began to turn to face the soldier and on you - again it is not good, let's go back to the last century ... But "shrapnel" is barley before, not everyone liked her, and how could she not be covered ... I know this not from hearsay, I had a chance to serve, incl. and in a hot spot ...
    2. Svyatoslavovich
      +4
      5 February 2014 14: 53
      And what did not please you with the tarpaulin with footcloths, I served, it was convenient for me, I tried ankle boots full of seams. And modern technologies that are trying to implement must pass the test of time and application, and then we will look, but from experience I can say that the same "gortex" that is introduced into shoes, with inappropriate care, stops working instantly and turns into the best remedy for increased sweating ...
  3. +13
    5 February 2014 08: 41
    Of course, I am happy for modern soldiers, but I would like to note that when I was doing military service in the 80s, the conditions of service were different from modern ones like a cell phone from a field phone, but there were not many acute respiratory infections. With a competent unit commander, everything was organized so that the soldiers would not be killed. On the windowsills in the barracks, onions and garlic were grown by order, in winter soldiers were allowed to warm themselves (additionally, woolen vests were worn under cotton), and the foremen were obliged to monitor the cleanliness of these "lice". The commander made a special agreement with the food college and their graduate students turned bread and what was called meat into excellent cutlets. On days when in winter the boiler room could not keep the temperature due to lousy coal and in the barracks it was only +8 from NC, they gave out two extra. blankets. To all this, the sport was at its best, and those who also practiced independently were encouraged in every possible way. So if the commanders cheer for the cause, the soldiers do not get sick.
    1. amigo1969
      +18
      5 February 2014 10: 12
      I support !! He served in the late 80s in border troops (mountain outposts). I think that the form was quite comfortable. In the mountains went in pea jackets and boots (pea jackets were just a fairy tale !!!). Sentries in the outpost wore sheepskin coats and felt boots in the winter - they hadn’t come up with anything lighter and warmer. The food was rude but hearty enough. Additional outfits were given to night dresses - this was followed very strictly. So I do not think that our army was flawed in this regard. I’m starting to remember now - I really don’t remember that someone in our country had the flu or pneumonia. Or the form was better or people are stronger)))))
      1. +8
        5 February 2014 12: 28
        I don’t know how the border guards have, but the winter insulated form was on natural wool. Our soldiers in the battalion, practically did not suffer from acute respiratory infections and the flu, well, and daily hardening and physical training on the street and in the barracks.
        1. amigo1969
          +1
          5 February 2014 14: 55
          So itself is cotton and cotton wool - 100% cotton !!! On this and did not freeze .. Now synthetics are heat-resistant laughing
    2. Brother77
      +1
      6 February 2014 11: 56
      Your truth, thank you for your words and memory! I’m younger than you, but the kirzachi with a footcloth dragged 5 years to VU and not at the institute in a bench fart and pulled a roll and slept on it and our generation did not sleep from the cold, and put on our shoes so that it started to stink and the boots fell apart and you don’t look like a lot of gangs — it seems that they are preparing uniforms for some kind of parquet soldiers — but our open spaces haven’t been annexed by anyone yet and there aren’t many roads, hey developers need not 300 of your options, but something universal, we need a new step in minimizing the number of things and their weight, you understand, a soldier with a bag of junk behind his back will not go on the attack, but will drive through it or exchange it for something else convenient. A beautiful parade emphasizing our traditions and character of the Russian soldier and officer is needed , related to the history of the time of the military and universal coats, well, two winter and summer + modification to the north and south !!! But the question for you is the developers and modifiers: the battle is on the order to attack, the fighter went, started shooting l the store is empty, the firing is fierce -Where to put the empty store well so that it doesn’t quickly pull it away from the machine, open the unloading valve, put it in, take out a new one from there .... Estimate the hotman from you, gentlemen of the peddler!
  4. +6
    5 February 2014 08: 42
    and salads and onions garlic and bacon even !!!
    Well done, all this pleases, but I would like it to be not an event in two exemplary brigades and teams. center, and routine in all divisions
  5. +13
    5 February 2014 08: 43
    I don’t know, I don’t know ... I only this year after almost 2! years of continuous squabble with a contenting authority was able to get at least some property for the soldiers! At the same time, they didn’t give a sports uniform, they didn’t give the insulated boots, until I reach the removed parts, I’ll quit! But I know that requisitions have already begun for the purchase of new chevrons, stripes and other rubbish! The bosses are in a hurry to report
    1. AX
      +1
      8 February 2014 19: 02
      I, too, from the outskirts ... And your problems - one to one are familiar ... SHOW !!!! How she tortured ... 23 calendars ...
  6. Andrey Borodin
    +3
    5 February 2014 08: 43
    I don’t know how anyone. But even in the relatively not high mountains of the Caucasus, in winter, it was more pleasant to walk in a normal horizontal line (padded jackets, pea coat) with a camouflage top on top. But if someone wanted to look fashionable, they wore a thin rustle instead of a camouflage coat. Interesting in the new during sleep you can freeze to the ground and not notice how in the old? But still cool, I'm very glad that all this is happening.
  7. +10
    5 February 2014 09: 30
    A well-fed and dressed Russian soldier is only a bone in the throat of the Dupont and Morgan family, with all their 300 committee ...
    1. amigo1969
      0
      5 February 2014 10: 13
      ... and that he was not like that - they abandoned the saboteur Yudashkin !!!!! laughing
  8. +4
    5 February 2014 09: 32
    Tasty and varied food is visible in the dining room photo. I immediately remembered how they fed in the army before. This is how many rear-nachprodov of different levels stole ?! !!
  9. +2
    5 February 2014 10: 05
    Everything needs to work out!
  10. Crang
    -5
    5 February 2014 10: 25
    Before they experiment with this form. That the old grandfather, the former red partisan, will take the Russian soldier for a policeman and shoot him with a gun.
    1. 0
      10 February 2014 14: 28
      Grandfather in the treuhe. For reference. Born in 1945, the next year will be 70 years old. What a red partisan. drinks
  11. iulai
    0
    5 February 2014 10: 29
    And the millions that Yudashkin received? Who will be responsible for them and who will return them? After all, he is the personal fashion designer of Medvedev’s wife, and he got and won the competition for the development of a military uniform with the filing of Dimon Medvedev, and the wife sang in bed at the expense of Yudashkin. That's how millions flew away and no one is responsible for anything!
  12. +3
    5 February 2014 10: 41
    There is still a small flaw - either a weapon is not for mittens or a mitten is not for a weapon, but as they say there is no limit to perfection. But in general, movement in the right direction.

    1. malikszh
      0
      5 February 2014 11: 29
      you know sometimes it’s convenient to shoot without sleeves, in the photo maybe the soldier took off did not think so?
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    3. +6
      5 February 2014 11: 44
      Gloves must be insulated with fleece, three-fingered-large, index and three remaining, and so that on the index finger cap could bend to expose the finger ...
      1. Svyatoslavovich
        +1
        5 February 2014 15: 02
        fleece has the property of melting and soldering to the skin
      2. +2
        5 February 2014 23: 32
        Quote: Altona
        Gloves must be insulated with fleece, three-fingered-large, index and three remaining, and so that on the index finger cap could bend to expose the finger ...

        They refused from "3-finger" mittens in favor of gloves, over which, moreover, you can wear mittens, also included in the kit ...
    4. 0
      5 February 2014 12: 24
      And this is a flashy photograph. There, the second calculation smiles. At real shooting, it’s not a laughing matter.
    5. 0
      9 February 2014 23: 59
      If, well, let's say run, jump, etc. hands will be hot, well, maybe not at -30, but at -15 it's easy
  13. +13
    5 February 2014 11: 14
    I watched a training film on wearing this uniform.

    struck
    1. Finger holes in the underwear so that when putting on a tunic, the sleeves would not slip - only this innovation paid for Skolkova's millions.
    2. Detachable ass
    3. What Velcro stuck on the pockets of the field form (a square the size of a passport) -type to sculpt emblems on them - I just wonder what will happen to it after crawling in the grass 100-200 meters
    4. The operating recommendations were as always impressed - a gentle washing of 30 degrees (yes, fuel oil and dirt should only be washed with it), cleaning is forbidden; cleaning is prohibited, and for the last time DO NOT DRY NEAR OPEN FIRE AND HEATING APPLIANCES. How can this be linked to being in the field, especially in the autumn-winter period, I do not know. It seems like Yudashkin’s figure jarring.
    1. -2
      5 February 2014 18: 36
      It itself should dry perfectly. This is the essence of modern synthetics.
      1. Brother77
        0
        6 February 2014 16: 33
        HAHAAAAAA! Cool!
      2. 0
        7 February 2014 10: 17
        That is, by the fire and you can’t warm yourself in the forest?
  14. +4
    5 February 2014 11: 16
    This is the essence of the new Russian uniform. For example, if it’s cool outside, the soldier simply puts on a jacket without a lining or with a lining, if it is windy outside, then you can put on a jacket under the jacket. If it rains, a soldier puts on a waterproof top.
    Now my main question is: does a soldier determine his uniform for himself? or still the person on duty looks at the thermometer in the morning and determines it for everyone on the basis of norms. Russia is big - conscripts from different regions - everyone suffers frost differently. Will the conscripts be able to additionally insulate themselves?
    1. 0
      5 February 2014 11: 19
      basically they watch that the conscript doesn’t thaw on his own.
      1. Brother77
        0
        6 February 2014 16: 34
        Yes, they see that in hospitals with colds, 150 defenders each arrive ...
        1. 0
          7 February 2014 10: 21
          Can you guess for all of them - they drove the company out on the parade ground, where the mittens, in the nightstand, forgot where the boots, and I will work in the heat. Or in a dress, the naked one jumped out for 2 minutes into the street.

          We brought a group recently - 14 people with RVK - 6 immediately to the hospital, two of them with pneumonia. Called 3 days ago.
    2. +2
      5 February 2014 12: 00
      Quote: lukke
      Will the conscript be able to additionally insulate themselves?

      If there is a duffel bag with clothes in the closet, then there is hell, but if everyone has their own closet next to the bed, like the amers have, then under the pea jacket is not visible. Most likely everything will be "monotonous".
      - We’ll finish the company. Dress code number one, briefs laughing
  15. +3
    5 February 2014 11: 51
    Quote: Krang
    Before they experiment with this form. That the old grandfather, the former red partisan, will take the Russian soldier for a policeman and shoot him with a gun.

    -------------------------
    In the war of 1812, this happened, since the hussar uniform that we have, that of the French was similar, and the villagers inexperienced in the colors of their uniforms with pitchforks could arrange a "friendly" ambush on the vanguard of their hussars ... Therefore, Davydov spat on this matter, dressed his own zipuns and three-hals, he grew beards so that the peasant people would not be embarrassed, and he left the uniforms to the staff officers and messengers ...)))
  16. +3
    5 February 2014 12: 02
    To be honest, in vague doubts from the fountain of innovations, I represent the smut of those who are in charge of clothing (there are many articles), the "inheritance" of certain elements of the form is also confusing ... is it really so smooth? The uniform, as I understand it, "from the wheels" is given to the troops, there are no supplies for sure ... Does everyone get the full set?
    1. 0
      14 March 2014 21: 40
      in addition to your post - the people, but imagine with all this wealth ... unexpectedly the "whip effect" and that's it, the commander, the foreman and the suitcase can be hung on the nearest bitch ...
  17. -3
    5 February 2014 12: 21
    Quote: Bene valete
    Damn, but you’ll get your boots on (one size 45 on all), then you barely lift your leg in them, and also in the snow ...

    Our enemies: Americans and Germans, of course, are easier dressed, but in the cold they will not be able to lie in the snow. And you can and rejoice that the frost does not matter. Enemies have to: either freeze, or surrender to at least a little warm. Let it be difficult to run into the attack, physically develop, do not be wormy and everything will be easy.
    1. +1
      5 February 2014 13: 52
      And what did you have to run in felt boots to attack? The form should facilitate movement on the battlefield, and not make it difficult, otherwise you will not run far and have no time to develop, so you can die and worm ...
    2. +7
      5 February 2014 15: 23
      Our enemies: Americans and Germans, of course, are easier dressed, but in the cold they will not be able to lie in the snow. And you can and rejoice that the frost does not matter. Enemies have to: either freeze, or surrender to at least a little warm. Let it be difficult to run into the attack, physically develop, do not be wormy and everything will be easy.

      Have you ever used their clothes? I have little experience (while hunting) using both winter and summer uniforms in Austria, Germany, the USA and of course I wore our own. So against the background of our NATO is very good. What does the foreign form have in my bulk, not from the time of Napoleon, but the one that they now have. Therefore, everything is known in direct comparison.
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    4. +2
      5 February 2014 19: 52
      Quote: Алексей_К
      Our enemies: Americans and Germans

      don’t underestimate the enemy, it usually ends badly, there’s also Ivan Ivanov’s frost, and the Chinese immediately have a large order for warm clothes, and the Germans are sure that they remember the lesson
  18. +9
    5 February 2014 13: 44
    The new Russian uniform is being tested in frost
    The new uniform is good, it's great! good

    One is bad - in the photo there are 4 bosses and 4 uniforms.
    The brigade commander is understandable, in the set for construction - field. MO Shoigu - also understandable ...

    Well, and the rest, as in the saying: "For today, uniform number 8 is established - what we want, we wear this!" am
    Okay at least not in the underwear laughing
  19. Wurger
    +8
    5 February 2014 13: 45
    How many have been experiencing it? According to advertisements, the whole class, and as a result, mass pneumonia and a couple of corpses of soldiers + a hanged military doctor. As they say here in Belarus - "something is wrong!"
  20. +1
    5 February 2014 14: 17
    Quote: Max_Bauder
    in the last photo, the fighters are similar to the Wehrmacht soldiers, if there is a similarity, let it be that just as the Germans were very good at providing troops with everything, from weapons to uniforms, and disciplinedly trained in war on any front, winter, desert, summer.

    Especially provided in Stalingrad. lol
  21. -2
    5 February 2014 14: 29
    After footcloths and helmets arr. 1941 and this form will seem good.
    1. Crang
      +2
      5 February 2014 15: 13
      On the contrary, in the 41st form was steep. And if you still wear a budenovka, then in general it’s chic. The main weakness of our current situation is the lack of a national idea. The guy in budenovka 100% will have an iron national idea.
      1. +1
        5 February 2014 15: 47
        So what, despite the chic look in budenovki, they were abandoned after the winter war with Finland? Strange, there were no budenovoks, but the national idea remained - in 1941 and later ... What is good for the parades is not all good for the war ...
      2. 0
        10 February 2014 14: 35
        And in the states to allow the wearing of religious hats. 100% not sure, read somewhere on the internet. There will be an iron idea in the pile.
  22. +1
    5 February 2014 14: 57
    And the city is called not Ugra but Yurga.Yugra - the name of the territories in the Northern Urals, between the Pechora River and the Ural Mountains. hi
  23. -1
    5 February 2014 15: 26
    Yes, the very fact that Shoigu initially trusts society as a whole is good. And in the army, after Serdyukov, in contrast to his initiative in the "pluses". And the new kits are probably many times more expensive than the previous form. And if there is money for it, one more plus! winked
  24. ko88
    +1
    5 February 2014 15: 36
    an eternal problem for our army, a problem with uniforms.
  25. +2
    5 February 2014 16: 11
    Quote: lukke
    Have you ever used their clothes? I have little experience (while hunting) using both winter and summer uniforms in Austria, Germany, the USA and of course I wore our own. So against the background of our NATO is very good. What does the foreign form have in my bulk, not from the time of Napoleon, but the one that they now have. Therefore, everything is known in direct comparison.

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    The insulating base of the current uniform, ANY, even a hunter-hunting, even a military, fleece sweatshirt and trousers ... An outer jacket with membrane lining like ski or mountaineering ... Trousers, tunic and cap - cotton / polyester 40/60 mixed fabrics ; 50/50; 60/40 ... That's actually all the wisdom ... Ours apparently didn't bother much at all, they ripped BDU and ACU from American cuts ... Moreover, the shortcomings only intensified, it seems to me both in cut and in the choice of fabric quality .. I myself wear an "armeyka", though imported, very comfortable clothes in everyday life ...
  26. vrybchenk
    0
    5 February 2014 16: 16
    Innovation is good. But as always, time will tell.
  27. 0
    5 February 2014 17: 22
    > quartered in Kemerovo Yurga

    The author drives: Yurga is not Kemerovo, but two big differences.
  28. EdwardTich68
    -5
    5 February 2014 17: 42
    New types of forms are constantly criticized, always not like everything. I remember our Tatar-Mongo-Bolshevik "kirzach", it was especially convenient to clean the parade ground in them at minus 53.
    it’s not given to ours to create something normal, well, it’s like a Russian car or football, for example. And since it’s not given to ourselves to make it easier to buy a patent, for example from Finns or Canadians, the climate there is similar.
    And finally to understand at last that there are things that we ourselves are not given to do and put up with it.
  29. dimarm74
    +5
    5 February 2014 17: 42
    Something it seems to me that in the dining room all this assortment was laid out for the arrival of high authorities .... How will they leave ... it will be as always ....
    1. +7
      5 February 2014 18: 40
      I live in Yurga, according to an eyewitness (double bass in the commandant's office): in the dining room on this buffet there was no bacon, onion, garlic after the first company. It is clear that they took in reserve outfits, shooting (field exercises every day). They did not guess the "counters" of the foreman (the officer on duty) for control. Then they laid out ... carpet tracks (!!!) at the entrance. the whole country is groaning from this "all-crawling" corruption. We are, like. But, this is Serfdom (the master has arrived), sycophancy (they rode in front of him (Shoigu) on the half-bent ones) is disgusting to look. Some kind of swearing, he says he saw Sh. From all this. Withstood a little more than an hour, dumped. Conscripts were not taken out to the formation, they were sitting in the barracks. In principle, right.
  30. +2
    5 February 2014 19: 42
    I remember the service in the Moscow region in winter. On the street -25, in the barracks +8, icy corners. On the bed there are 2 blankets and an overcoat (I don't want to climb out!). After lifting, the caps were tied at the bottom, three-fingered mittens - and 3 km through the crackling forest! - And she didn't take a cold! But dinner - "killer": mashed potatoes on a combination of fat (heartburn in many) and fried fish with a rotten spine - I remember for a lifetime. - This is in the division. And before that, in the sergeant's school - the food is the best! -The commander of the school dined from a soldier's cauldron.
    1. 0
      10 February 2014 14: 40
      HVVAIKU 1990th. The second Mlyn is the capital of Ukraine. The same fodder to heartburn, rotten fish, sweetish mashed potatoes. N-yes ... Is there really no bite of frost there. But they didn’t put on their greatcoats - all winter in PS. Overcoats only on guard, in dismissal.
  31. +1
    5 February 2014 23: 14
    "... During the visit to the unit, the thermometer froze at -34 ° C, the situation was aggravated by a piercing and strong enough wind ...".
    That's interesting, but did the famous group also wait on the parade ground of the generals? In the lame ones then?
    The bosses did not find identical covers? It seems that the Chinese were torn off from the market, and epaulets were cringing.
    Window dressing is ancient.
    Yes, and I can’t believe what will be the use of this collapsible uniform.
    Here are the brains swollen counting all this wealth from every soldier.
  32. +5
    6 February 2014 09: 08
    It seems strange to me alone, the choice of colors for winter layers of clothing? I wonder why not from reflective acid-green and orange fabric, it would be much more noticeable and more fun. I’ve thought about where there is green vegetation on Earth, in cold weather at -15 ° C, I’m not talking about -30 ° C. Something tells me that there are no such places on Earth, apparently they plan to fight on some other planet ... This idea was ruined by the Ministry of Defense, because given that the form consists of thermal layers, it was easy to make 3 different colors for each season.
  33. Freemason
    0
    6 February 2014 16: 53
    Article + is written beautifully, I already want to go back in order to experience this whole thing .. But as they say, we will wait and see. Before dismissal, he found a uniform from homo .... in general, Zaitsev, they spat for a long time ...
  34. bubble82009
    0
    7 February 2014 02: 22
    for an ordinary fighter, these kits are expensive. They say they will wear the kits for 2-3 years. Well, how can you imagine this?
    1. AX
      0
      8 February 2014 19: 15
      The new uniform will be given to officers and warrant officers for personal use, and for conscripts and under the contract as inventory property for 3 years ... I wonder what will be done with it after delivery to the warehouse? fool This is Junk -90% ...
  35. +3
    7 February 2014 12: 51
    I read the article and immediately a number of questions arose.

    / Start, for example, with earflaps, which received long ears. When dropped, they easily overlap and fasten with a special Velcro, perfectly protecting the soldier's chin in severe frosts. At the same time, if the sun shines brightly on the street, a soldier can simply bend the top flap of an earflap, as a result of which he will receive a sun visor. The new fur hat still uses faux fur, but now it looks more like a tsigeyka, that is, it is pleasant and soft to the touch. /

    I wore such earflaps from 1976 to 1978 in the Arctic. Moreover, from a tsigeyka, and it was a natural sheepskin.

    / Now, the modern jacket of a Russian soldier can easily be disassembled into several parts, she got the opportunity to transform and became like a designer. Now, depending on the weather on the street, a Russian soldier can either add warming elements to the jacket, or, on the contrary, remove all the warm details, turning the jacket into a windbreaker.

    All 16 items of the new Russian field uniform can be easily enough placed in a compact backpack, the weight of which will directly change depending on the weather. If the weather is quite warm on the street, then the backpack is heavy, if it is cold outside, it’s light, because at that time almost all the clothes are on the soldier. /

    I wonder who will regulate the transformation? A soldier’s backpack will always be with him?


    And yet. Russia, despite the fact that it is divided, is located in different climatic zones. For the north and middle zone, clothes were invented. And what about the southern zones ???.

    Z.Y. Take a closer look, ALL clothes are solid synthetics (although they say that they are of a membrane type, but I am tormented by vague doubts). And although on the street the snow is all dressed in GREEN NUMBER !!!

    Z.Z.Y. During the Soviet era there were three main types of fabric for the Soviet Army - HB (cotton), PSh (half-woolen) and BSh (pure-woolen).
    And these fabrics were suitable for any climate.
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  37. +2
    7 February 2014 14: 45
    Honestly: we got cheers that write about how the minister arrived as they showed him and how terribly pleased with everything.
    I would like to see a detailed article from the person who this lump deformed. And not only in the cold, but in the heat and not just a day, but the entire period of the change of seasons.
    1. Brother77
      +1
      8 February 2014 17: 57
      two years ago I wore a uniform from a yudashka, got it in a warehouse in the southern region — my brothers dressed for half a day before the commission arrived (in summer) and oh God forgive me, I just wowed ... there was only one thing for me from heat and sweat - Yes, you die from these your uniforms - it was just mockery at the officer and soldiers ... then he just threw him on the floor and put on something similar but bought at the market ...
      1. AX
        +1
        8 February 2014 19: 18
        They gave us an "office" uniform ... We found Chinese hieroglyphs on the seam ... And made by BTK, in St. Petersburg ...
      2. +1
        10 February 2014 13: 41
        Quote: Brother77
        two years ago I wore a uniform from a yudashka,
        In the subject of a joke.

        After the march of throwing a fighter they ask: -How do you like the new uniform?
        Yes, everything is fine only thongs in (.pe) tinder.
  38. AX
    0
    8 February 2014 19: 09
    When will they finally issue the form in size? It feels like we have only heroes, under two meters tall ... And these new winter berets ... The hour was like, and my feet are wet. Socks are squeezed out. And stripes, chevrons ... Girls have less jewelry in a makeup bag ... As the Papuans walk ... We meet the Emergencies Ministry, and they smile at us sympathetically ... am
  39. +1
    8 February 2014 19: 31
    In Transbaikalia, with a minus and with a breeze (in Borza), the old "sand" was more reliable! I was convinced by my own experience! Even harder, but the wind did not blow like new synthetics!
  40. 0
    3 March 2014 23: 53
    Ushanka may be warm, but you are my god, what a bawdy look.
  41. juancarlos
    -1
    2 May 2014 18: 47
    Beautiful, modern, effective and efficient form.
  42. BIG BROTHER
    0
    29 May 2014 22: 22
    That day it was 38 and the wind was blowing down. The only thing that the form could not warm up was the eyes - if you do not blink often, then the eyeballs froze! The entire brigade was in the ranks and no one hid the conscripts in the barracks. Yes, and then, closer to spring, in the wet snow at the test site, they ran it in, ran around and crawled around - it survived. The main thing is not to wear any "lice" popular in previous years - you will sweat, you will not dry out, you will freeze. But that's not all! In a guard's sheepskin coat, it is also not cold in the bitter frost, but you cannot run up to your waist in the snow in full harness. And in this form of movement, nothing constrains. Believe me, for a quarter of a century I experienced myself from HB and breeches to the Yudashkin figure, in which I froze like a tsutsik. The form is thought out and really made for a fighter. True, for the summer I would have left the kerzachi with footcloths, and it was the kerzachi. And as for the large number of Velcro stripes, not only this hinders such a bad dancer!
  43. Varly
    0
    8 August 2014 21: 19
    Who will wash all this uniforms? Civilian personnel in specially trained dry cleaners? And in the field?
  44. 0
    7 January 2016 01: 11
    Quote: Алексей_К
    Our enemies: Americans and Germans,

    These are virtual enemies. And the real ones are those who rob the rank and file. That is - contract soldiers, small commanders, and other financially interested parties.
  45. 0
    23 January 2016 18: 12
    Quote: kirpich
    Z.Z.Y. During the Soviet era there were three main types of fabric for the Soviet Army - HB (cotton), PSh (half-woolen) and BSh (pure-woolen).
    And these fabrics were suitable for any climate.

    In Soviet times, for such know-how (as the current form) they could sew at least wrecking on a statewide scale and make a hole in the cunning head ...
  46. 0
    11 July 2016 01: 34
    In addition to the above, when demobilizing my boy handed over this fucking rag (especially berets without soles) for painting, changed into civilian clothes that we brought, and thank God !!! left this hotbed of theft and corruption. - Zheldorbat, Kurganinsk, Krasnodar kr.
    Hopefully this is not the case everywhere.