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Russia gives place among the most drunk to other states

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The chief psychiatrist-narcologist of the Ministry of Health (and there is such a regular unit in the Ministry of Health) Evgeny Brun announced that the situation with the use (abuse) of alcoholic beverages has significantly improved in Russia for the first time in recent years. The Ministry of Health, using a certain method, has been analyzing the level of alcohol consumption by Russians for many years (the records are kept according to the version of the World Health Organization methodology - citizens aged 15 years are considered). According to Evgeny Brun, in the 2013 year, the Russians drank alcoholic beverages by about 13% less than in the 2012 year. The indicator is really impressive. In turn, in the 2012 year, the Russians (again, at the age of 15 years) consumed only alcoholic beverages by 1-2% less than in the 2011 year. That is, in 2013, the progress is much more serious.


In 2011, the World Health Organization allocated to the Russian Federation 5 a line of not very positive world ranking - the rating of per capita alcohol consumption in the countries of the world. According to the WHO, in 2011, Russians averaged about 15,7 liters of alcohol on average (the equivalent of pure ethyl alcohol). At the end of the year 2013 (data from the Russian Ministry of Health), the average level of use was approximately 13,5 liters. The share of vodka for the first time in all history new Russia (since the collapse of the USSR) has dropped to less than 50%.

By the way, the Russian segment of the famous Wikipedia stubbornly continues to submit WHO 2011 data of the year, although the latest “adopted” edits are dated November of 2013. Whether, with efficiency in the project, not everything is in order, or a significant reduction in the level of consumption of alcoholic beverages in Russia somewhat does not fit in with the position of “Internet encyclopedists”. In general, “on Wikipedia”, Russia statistically averagely “fills the collar” for 15,76 liters per year (“per capita”), which is significantly different from the Ministry of Health data for the year 2013.

Russia gives place among the most drunk to other states


If we start from the 13,5 indicator of a liter of "pure alcohol", then this indicator immediately moves Russia from the top five to the second ten of the WHO rating, in particular to countries like Portugal, Austria and France (from 13 to 14) ). Should we be proud that our country “drinks” as much as, for example, Austria (on average per capita)? Well, there is nothing to be proud of here, frankly, especially, but the fact that Russia has left the unenviable top five, giving up its place to Romania (now occupies 5’s place in the rating with 15,5 l per capita) - can be considered really positive.

It is interesting that during the last three years, Moldova has not lost its position, essentially breaking away from the closest “pursuers” and settling in the first place of the “alcoholic” rating. In the period from 2010 to 2013, the average Moldovan citizen uses 17,8-18,3 a liter of pure ethyl alcohol per year.

Even more interesting is the situation in Sweden. As they say, who would have thought that in just two years the level of alcohol consumption in this Scandinavian country will grow so much that it will move from the fourth dozen of the rating to the second place! With very impressive prices for alcohol in Sweden, the number of recorded purchases increased by almost a third. It would seem that some mathematical error of the WHO or the Swedish Ministry of Healthcare was originally laid here, but in fact there is no mistake - everything is very prosaic. It turns out that just the trust of the Scandinavians, until recently, was such that only people from 20 years were included in the calculation formula. Why? The reason is that in Sweden it is from this age that the sale of alcoholic beverages is officially authorized. Like, if you are allowed to buy alcohol only from 20, then they drink in Sweden only from 20 ... Interesting logic, isn't it ...

Then they decided that such a calculation is a priori fraught with cunning and, as they say, they have counted everything. The main criterion for the recalculation was the sociological surveys that were conducted among young people aged from 15 to 19 years. These same polls showed that Swedish young people and girls not only drink alcohol before reaching the “legal” age, but also know how to get it, bypassing all Swedish restrictions. One of these “holes” is “gifts” in the form of a box of beer or a bottle of brandy when ordering, for example, a set of wine glasses or a beer mug. And we in Russia naively believed that the system of bypassing any government prohibitions was characteristic only for our country ... In general, Swedish sociology and statistics experts analyzed the collected data, and so much so that they themselves became very excited. It turned out that in Tre-Krunur they drink more Russians, Ukrainians, Finns, Hungarians ... Only the mentioned Moldovans are put to the bottle more Swedes. Are these data evil? You can take them as you please, but the fact remains: the number of deaths from cardiovascular diseases recorded by the Ministry of Health in Moldova is steadily increasing, and the number of similar deaths in Sweden, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Romania (the countries of the top five “alco-rating” is growing). The growth of the mentioned type of deaths in Russia slowed down following the results of 2013 of the year to a minimum for all the recent years - about 2% per year. In 2011, this figure was about 9% per year. If the decline in alcohol consumption continues, then physicians expect (for the first time in the last 25 years) a reduction in mortality from cardiovascular diseases (a significant contribution to which is exactly the use of alcohol) already following the results of the 2014 year.

Let us return to the indicators of alcohol consumption in Russia. Of course, every person has a reason to trust the data of the Russian Ministry of Health and specifically the data of Yevgeny Brun, so there is a reason not to trust them. But that's what's the matter. If we were told that the percentage of alcohol consumption in Russia had grown, few people would criticize the information - they say, of course, grew - we are the most drinking nation in the world, we all from the 1 class of the school until the last year of life do not get drunk , we, forgive, we thump in black ... And as soon as there is information about reducing alcohol consumption among Russians, there are also people who claim that Bryan, Skvortsova, or Putin (as without Putin) are "shameless lie. " Already, on the resources that have published data from the Ministry of Public Health, gentlemen have appeared, who “undoubtedly know more than any minister, doctor, sociologist”: they say, the authorities “bother” - they only began to drink more. And it turns out that one cannot object to such logic - the “writer” himself sobered up for dinner today, followed the “sober”, met yesterday’s drinking companion, and therefore, they drink more in Russia ... And everyone, you understand, must believe - he, so to speak, communicates first-hand ...

It is also clear where this logic comes from. In recent years, the media, scientific and pseudoscientific literature have published data on how Russia is "drinking itself". Such an information wave (or even war) led to the mental stereotype that only Russians themselves drink more Russians. People who get acquainted with other data immediately try to find a bunch of counter-arguments that, according to their personal conviction, need to be trusted more than those given by the World Health Organization and the Russian Ministry of Health. Hence the global stereotype of “drunk Russia forever”. Apparently, in this light, it’s more convenient for us to put up with you, it’s easier for us to impose some destructive positions, it’s easier for us to manage in the end. It is here that lies the main cunning, which does not allow many of us to perceive the positive data, as they say, with a cool head.

What was the reason for reducing the level of alcohol consumption in Russia? The main factors that can be identified are: a ban on alcohol advertising in the media, a ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages at night, a ban on the sale of alcohol during celebrations in various regions of the country.

Of course, in our country there are still a whole bunch of problems associated with alcoholization of the population (adolescent beer alcoholism, veiled alcohol advertisements (through lifestyle, when - euphoria and accessibility at the forefront), the implementation of the so-called "fake" vodka through "uncontrollable" points sales, sale of alcohol to persons up to 18 years without presenting a passport, moonshine making "for mass sale"). But all problems are not immediately solved a priori. If we continue to work systematically in this direction (without such excesses as, for example, cutting down vineyards or vodka coupons), then the result will be more than successful. At least, I would like to hope for the continuation of the relevant system work.

PS This paper discusses the situation with the level of alcohol use. Problems with drug addiction, substance abuse and other "maniah" - in other materials.
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  1. bya965
    bya965 4 February 2014 07: 23
    +40
    The numbers are misleading - I have seen this from my own experience; Disraeli rightly spoke on this subject: “There are three types of lies: lies, blatant lies and statistics.

    - Mark Twain, 5 July 1907
    1. Civil
      Civil 4 February 2014 07: 44
      +45
      Koldy have not been drinking vodka for a long time, but pepper, so to speak, perfumery and hawthorn, vodka is mostly preferred by the older generation. There is a decrease, it’s true, but I judge only by my environment.
      1. Mature naturalist
        Mature naturalist 4 February 2014 08: 05
        +54
        Pepsi generation prefers drugs (I judge by my porch)
        change of generations - change of priorities ...
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 4 February 2014 08: 26
          +44
          Quote: Mature Naturalist
          Pepsi generation prefers drugs (I judge by my porch)
          change of generations - change of priorities ...

          We drank "777" and "13" and "Caucasus" when we were young, and there was no such "bull's buzz" as from the new vodka. We would sell normal wine at reasonable prices, and the situation would be different. I can't drink vodka myself, if only they bring them from Belarus, and ours turns a person into a Polygraph of Polygraph.
          1. domokl
            domokl 4 February 2014 09: 03
            +23
            So if you don’t read all sorts of WHOs and carts, then everyone can, Cady wants to, of course, see if we drink more or less ...
            I go out on Friday and I see men drunk ... Like, probably, from each commentator ... And the muzzle of the face is always the same ... There are no new ones. But in the early days there were always several ...
            And the youth ... Duc she now, in my opinion more of a show off, drinks expensive martini and whiskey ... And not so much as to consider them drunkards ..
            So it’s trembling and this WHO is working on someone’s order ...
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 4 February 2014 09: 25
              +21
              By the way, the Russian segment of the famous Wikipedia stubbornly continues to present the WHO 2011 data of the year, although the latest “accepted” edits are dated November 2013. Either the project’s efficiency is not all right, or a significant decrease in the level of alcohol consumption in Russia does not fit somewhat with the position of “Internet encyclopedists”.


              No sane person doubts that Wikipedia is engaged, especially when they delete information about the film "Panfilovtsy" or consistently insert "liberal myths" into all articles about the achievements of the Russian Federation.

              Apparently, in this light, it’s more convenient for us to expose us, so it’s easier for us to impose any destructive positions

              It is a fact. Zhdanov spoke about this many years ago.

              As for the data of the Ministry of Health, the most eloquent proof of their data will be a decline in alcohol production by 10-15 percent in 2013, in 2012 this decline was approximately 8%.

              So we began to drink less - a fact
              We drink a lot - fact
              We drink less every year - TREND, which is even more important than the facts.

              PS. Then one user decided to flash his mind
              Quote: bya965
              The numbers are misleading - I have seen this from my own experience; Disraeli rightly spoke on this subject: “There are three types of lies: lies, blatant lies and statistics.

              - Mark Twain, 5 July 1907


              Well, here is my advice, first to study the history of the origin of this phrase and the context in which it was used, and only then rush to it on every corner.
              1. FID
                FID 4 February 2014 09: 45
                +25
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                Well, here is my advice, first to study the history of the origin of this phrase and the context in which it was used, and only then rush to it on every corner.


                From the "Encyclopedic Dictionary of Winged Words and Expressions" by the author-compiler V. Serov.


                Attributed to the English writer and statesman, British Prime Minister from the Conservative Party (1874-1880) Benjamin Disraeli, Lord Beaconsfield (1804-1881). But in his works and statements such a phrase was not found.
                First encountered in literature by the American writer Mark Twain (pseudonym Samuel Lenghorn Clemens, 1835-1910) in his Autobiography (publ. 1924), where this phrase is quoted with reference to Benjamin Disraeli.
                It serves as a humorous and ironic commentary on someone's attempts to prove something only with the help of numbers, statistics, opinion polls, etc.


                Advice to give a case irresponsible. A person writes what he sees fit. You also use words that are not very characteristic of our language ("TREND"), but no one is pulling you back, I beg your pardon ...
                1. sledgehammer102
                  sledgehammer102 4 February 2014 10: 02
                  +4
                  Quote: SSI
                  It serves as a humorous and ironic commentary on someone's attempts to prove something only with the help of numbers, statistics, opinion polls, etc.


                  Translated into Russian, your quote means that this expression should be used when you cannot constructively object, and there is not enough courage to admit your own error and / or ignorance.

                  Quote: SSI
                  Advice to give a case irresponsible. A person writes what he sees fit. You also use words that are not very characteristic of our language ("TREND"), but no one is pulling you back, I beg your pardon ...

                  Do you have a harmonious native Russian equivalent ???
                  1. FID
                    FID 4 February 2014 10: 41
                    +11
                    DIRECTION
                    1. sledgehammer102
                      sledgehammer102 4 February 2014 10: 47
                      0
                      Quote: SSI
                      DIRECTION


                      The graph above clearly shows the direction of decreasing the amount of alcohol consumed .... It doesn’t sound, but the trend or trend is just right. And that's not the point. The discussion thread is about something else, namely statistics
                      1. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 4 February 2014 16: 55
                        +6
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        It doesn’t sound, but a trend or a trend is just right.

                        "I'll tear my mouth" for Lev Nikolaevich! Patsans muzzle the parhata!
                        Trendthe thickened part, which ends with the "spindle" of the anchor. The bottom of the trend is called the heel. Two horns are attached to the trend, which in some types of anchors can be mobile. Roger's anchor is trending through hole for buoyp
                        "Trademark", which still looks like a not very successful tracing paper from the English trade mark has been replaced by a scrap -brand name hi
                        You can still slander the circumcised Saxon language.
                        And you can give another example, suffocating:
                        Rynda - ship's bell.
                        Rynda is a squire-bodyguard under the great princes and kings of Russia of the XNUMXth – XNUMXth centuries.
                        Rynda is a helical sailing corvette built in 1856, a member of the Russian Fleet Expedition to the shores of North America in 1863-1864.
                        “Rynda” - an armored deck corvette, a ship of the “Vityaz” type, built in 1885; May 8, 1917 was renamed the Liberator.
                        Rynda is a river on the Kola Peninsula.
                        Rynda is a bay in the waters of the Sea of ​​Japan.
                        Miracles and more.
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        Well, here is my advice, first to study the history of the origin of this phrase and the context in which it was used, and only then rush to it on every corner.

                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        Translated into Russian, your quote means that this expression should be used when you cannot constructively object, and there is not enough courage to admit your own error and / or ignorance.

                        Already start to admit everything wink
                      2. Bezz
                        Bezz 4 February 2014 21: 41
                        -7
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        The discussion thread is about something else, namely statistics

                        The mentality of the Slavs is similar. Therefore, I am writing. I don’t believe that the Swedes !!! drink more. 1.Sweden is a northern, law-abiding country. 2. Add homemade wine from the Russian south, and not only. We also do it with might and main. Hundreds of thousands of tons. 3. Add moonshine. Thousands of tons. 4. Add cologne, hawthorn, formic alcohol, glass cleaner. Thousands of tons. 5. We add medical and technical alcohol, stolen by thousands of tons (remember the aviation "sword"). Let's discard the non-drinking Muslims. I am sure that they are the first in this rating. Unfortunately.
                      3. sssla
                        sssla 5 February 2014 00: 58
                        +10
                        Quote: Bezz
                        Let's throw away the non-drinking Muslims. I am sure that they are the first in this rating. Unfortunately.
                        Well tady answer the question --- do you drink 40 vodka bottles a year? Are you an alcoholic? Do you believe that Muslims are completely teetotalers?
                    2. Sid.74
                      Sid.74 4 February 2014 23: 14
                      +11
                      To hell with the statistics, I will speak for myself, literally 5-10 years ago, young people around me saw everything that burned, died bundles.
                      More recently, heroin addicts, who were buried weekly, were everywhere and everywhere, and now all this is not relieved at all but retreated! sadly the ends, the proximity of the Urals to Kazakhstan has borne fruit, and to my company, it was destined to be a transit route for drugs!
                      Now the people are more and more at cafes and cinemas, with beer or better alcoholic drinks, their time is spent! Mortality has decreased this fact! Someone will say the trend and I will say that this is a pattern!
                    3. Foxmara
                      Foxmara 7 February 2014 14: 11
                      +1
                      + and there are fewer syringes at the entrance. )) No, really much less often. And once I saw how the narc guys were bludgeoning, and he bellowed that "I won't be anymore." It is ineffective in my opinion, asocial and illegal. But it seems that since then I have not seen syringes ..
              2. Vasek
                Vasek 4 February 2014 20: 49
                +1
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                Do you have a harmonious native Russian equivalent ???

                "Tendency" - although it is also a word of foreign origin, but settled in the Russian language long ago and firmly.
                And to be wicked is really unworthy and not manly somehow.
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            3. siberalt
              siberalt 4 February 2014 14: 07
              +4
              SSI:
              "From the" Encyclopedic Dictionary of Winged Words and Expressions "by the author-compiler V. Serov."

              I agree with you, dear. I first heard this expression from a political economy teacher back in the early 70s. It's not even the case of authorship, or in context. And in the fact that this phrase has become winged, and in WHAT it really reflects. And this can be confirmed by anyone who at least studied practical statistics or compiled departmental reports at least in the "form".
          2. CALL.
            CALL. 4 February 2014 11: 30
            +23
            The topic is very relevant. Take a look at alcoholized animals stupefied
            wine, the right to the excessive consumption of which is given together with
            freedom. Peoples intoxicated by alcohol, and youth
            distraught from alcohol, drugs and early debauchery. - World government installations.

            Do not let yourself and our children reach the same ...
            1. anomalocaris
              anomalocaris 4 February 2014 15: 22
              +2
              And this photo in which country was taken? She reminds me very much of Sweden ...
            2. rereture
              rereture 4 February 2014 15: 59
              -2
              I saw this photo back in 2003. NO DALES PLAN. And it’s VERY VERY CLEVER TO PROVE YOUR POSITION BY THE DEMOTIVATOR THAT THE SCHOOLBOARD came up with.
              1. Ossetian.
                Ossetian. 4 February 2014 20: 16
                +3
                And why are you so sure that there is no Dales plan ???
                1. rereture
                  rereture 4 February 2014 22: 01
                  -4
                  Because, what you call the plan dalessa was a newspaper duck this time.

                  Secondly, for some reason, the so-called "daless plan" works perfectly in the United States and Europe.

                  Thirdly, the same bike exists in the USA, it is only called the Rules of the Communist Revolution.

                  And in Europe there is a tale about the will of Peter the Great.

                  There is also a bike "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"


                  Fourth, see less Ren TV.
                  1. Ossetian.
                    Ossetian. 4 February 2014 22: 18
                    +1
                    I see you have complete information on the world, in your circle only stories. So tell us, enlighten us. What do you think is not a tale? .. In my opinion, my friend brought you into the wrong reality.

                    And ren TV and indeed I don’t have time to watch TV!
                  2. ele1285
                    ele1285 5 February 2014 00: 50
                    +2
                    [quote = rereture] Fourth, see less Ren TV. [/ quote]
                    Komrad, [Ossetian. SU] [/ quote] look this new Novodvorskaya. It knows everything, knows how, only the people are bad. And how much anger it has ... The tail wags the dog.
                    True, they say, "with ... a liberal, you will save Russia."
          3. brainkiller
            brainkiller 4 February 2014 14: 38
            +3
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Every year we drink less - TREND, which is even more important than the facts.
            well this is ... a natural population decline.

            And if you believe your eyes, then they smoke and drink and eat less seeds. Grandmas with bags of seeds died out as a class in general.
            1. EvilLion
              EvilLion 4 February 2014 16: 58
              0
              Because seeds are sold in zavosochny packaging in stores.
            2. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 4 February 2014 17: 49
              0
              Quote: brainkiller
              well this is ... a natural population decline.



              We have a natural growth ... and the population in general has been growing for the third year.
              1. brainkiller
                brainkiller 4 February 2014 17: 58
                +2
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                We have a natural growth ... and the population in general has been growing for the third year.
                Well, in general, only this year the birth rate exceeded mortality, and if you look at the regions, the Caucasus is pulling the entire central part. In the central zone is still a minus. With expert info.
          4. Foxmara
            Foxmara 7 February 2014 14: 06
            0
            Checked VIKI, and we are already in 17th place there. But Sweden did not slip into the second.
            The rest is 100% agree. And alcohol production fell and import decreased. The trend however!
          5. axay032
            axay032 10 February 2014 23: 43
            0
            I do not want to blame and justify anyone. But on Wikipedia, the data for 2013 is exactly the same as in the article I quote: (In 2013, Russians drank alcoholic beverages by about 13% less than in 2012. According to the results of 2013 (data from the Russian Ministry of Health), the level of consumption in an average of approximately 13,5 liters, which immediately moves Russia from the top five to the second top ten of the WHO ranking, namely to countries such as Portugal, Austria and France (from 13 to 14 liters according to the health organizations of these countries). the share of vodka for the first time in the history of new Russia (since the collapse of the USSR) fell to less than 50% [34].)


            http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0


            %B7%D0%BC_%D0%B2_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8
        2. c3r
          c3r 4 February 2014 13: 58
          0
          It's just that youth has probably become more, therefore the percentage of liters has increased. Well, for demography !!!
        3. lestad
          lestad 4 February 2014 14: 53
          0
          commissioned by Putin laughing
      2. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 4 February 2014 09: 04
        +4
        that's for sure, our vodka only in name. We have been drinking moonshine for a long time :)
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 4 February 2014 09: 30
          +11
          "Not because the father beat his son because he drank, but because he did not eat!"
        2. Normal
          Normal 4 February 2014 10: 56
          +13
          Quote: Ivan Petrovich
          that's for sure, our vodka only in name. We have been drinking moonshine for a long time :)

          You are mistaken. Vodka - diluted rectified alcohol. Moonshine - distillate.
          It is very difficult to determine the feedstock of the rectified product even in the conditions of a chemical laboratory, therefore they make vodka from all kinds of crap. Drinks - distillates are made from decent raw materials, sequentially cleaned and insisted. Therefore, the correct, home-brew is better than industrial vodka. True to make moonshine correctly - a troublesome thing
          1. papuasimus
            papuasimus 4 February 2014 13: 35
            +5
            I know first-hand: it takes 5-6 months, and in some cases 8-9 months, to make moonshine at home. And the quality is such that any plant dies of envy.
          2. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris 4 February 2014 15: 25
            +1
            At least three months, but for good and all six months.
          3. rereture
            rereture 4 February 2014 16: 00
            -2
            Not very troublesome. Barrel, sugar, trembling. And for half a year in a warm place.
        3. nikoli25
          nikoli25 4 February 2014 13: 31
          +3
          I WILL BE BETTER TO DRINK MY BREATH THAN STORE VODKA. And ON SALES, SO NOW KAZAKHSTAN'S VODKA FROM UNDERGROUND HAS BECOME AT LEAST WITH US IN THE SOUTHERN URALS.
          1. Starina_hank
            Starina_hank 4 February 2014 17: 47
            0
            On it, by the way, and prices are practically not rising.
        4. askort154
          askort154 4 February 2014 13: 34
          +6
          Ivan Petrovich .... that's for sure, our vodka is only in name. We have been drinking moonshine for a long time :)

          Moonshine is very harmful: my grandfather drank only moonshine all his life, and therefore he died at 96!
          1. Penzyac
            Penzyac 8 February 2014 19: 26
            +1
            Once on a collective farm, I had a chance to drink Mordovian rye moonshine, any store-bought vodka compared to it was completely sucks and chemistry.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 4 February 2014 11: 12
        +5
        Quote: ele1285
        ours turns a person into a Polygraph Polygraphych.

        Also noticed. I also try to take the Belarusian "Bulbash", from the majority of ours some kind of fool in my head. drinks
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      5. strannik595
        strannik595 4 February 2014 11: 29
        +5
        and ours turns a person into a Polygraph Polygraphycha.
        smiled .... + for humor! laughing
      6. avt
        avt 4 February 2014 11: 33
        +4
        Quote: ele1285
        We drank "777" and "13" and "Caucasus" when we were young, and there was no such "bull's buzz" as from the new vodka

        Nuuu! Also, "Solntsedar" remember! laughing So after all then, even from rotten, but natural fruits were driven. With synthetics of the times of "Royal" can not be compared! In general, the first vodka dope appeared even before the hunchback. "Andropovka" remember?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 4 February 2014 11: 47
          +4
          Quote: avt
          Also, "Solntsedar" remember!
          It’s hard to forget.
          do not waste time in vain; hang with the Sonsedar.
          laughing It was possible to paint the fences. laughing
          1. Normal
            Normal 4 February 2014 12: 48
            +2
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: avt
            Also, "Solntsedar" remember!
            It’s hard to forget.

            Quote: avt
            Quote: ele1285
            We drank "777" and "13" and "Caucasus" when we were young, and there was no such "bull's buzz" as from the new vodka

            Nuuu! ..... Andropovka "remember?


            Caucasus? Solcedar? Andropovka? Golden Autumn? .... I don’t remember .... Guys .... but what happened yesterday? AND??
          2. Tersky
            Tersky 4 February 2014 13: 58
            +3
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Colors fences could

            For painting fences "Rubin" was irreplaceable, Finnish TEKNOS nervously smokes on the sidelines. Igor, hi !
          3. Vasek
            Vasek 4 February 2014 21: 00
            0
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: avt
            Also, "Solntsedar" remember! It's hard to forget.
            do not waste time in vain; hang with the Sonsedar.

            Maybe someone remembers Saffron, with a "delicate velvety aftertaste" of a rotten apple? wassat
        2. ele1285
          ele1285 4 February 2014 11: 50
          +1
          Quote: avt

          Nuuu! Also, "Solntsedar" remember! "Andropovka" remember?

          And that, it was a good zaborokrasitelnoe wine, it was not washed off. And 4-70 was called a "schoolgirl", so God forbid what.
        3. rereture
          rereture 4 February 2014 16: 02
          +1
          And what difference does alcohol make? The chemical structure is the same, even that of potato, even of sawdust, is the same. It all depends on cleaning.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 4 February 2014 17: 41
            +4
            Quote: rereture
            And what difference does alcohol make? The chemical structure is the same, even that of potato, even of sawdust, is the same. It all depends on cleaning.

            The question is economic.
            Cleaning different types of alcohol has an unequal cost.
            1. rereture
              rereture 4 February 2014 17: 50
              +1
              In any case, alcohol does nothing but harm)
          2. Starina_hank
            Starina_hank 4 February 2014 17: 52
            +4
            In this case, the comrade is very wrong, the vodka made from potatoes gives a strong hangover syndrome and headaches, and with bread vodka (real of course) this phenomenon is not observed. What is the reason I do not know, but the fact remains!
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 4 February 2014 20: 19
              +2
              Quote: Starina_Hank
              In this case, the comrade is very wrong, the vodka made from potatoes gives a strong hangover syndrome and headaches, and with bread vodka (real of course) this phenomenon is not observed. What is the reason I do not know

              In quantity and snack
        4. Colonel
          Colonel 4 February 2014 18: 34
          +1
          Quote: avt
          Also, "Solntsedar" remember!

          "After all, this is God's gift - port and sun ..." - from the school song of my childhood repeat
        5. Penzyac
          Penzyac 8 February 2014 19: 13
          0
          I remember, I remember - excellent muck was, only the price was good in it.
      7. vedmeddd
        vedmeddd 4 February 2014 12: 48
        +1
        I agree, so I’m doing vodka and tinctures myself. But alcohol is a good problem.
      8. c3r
        c3r 4 February 2014 13: 55
        +2
        So you don’t need to drink sivuha, by the way I tried Belarusian vodka. In the same average price range as the Russian one has the same quality, but it is not strange Ossetian at a low price has very good quality, even my head does not hurt in the morning. AND AT ALL THEN IT IS BETTER AT ALL NOT TO DRINK OR EAT COMPOTE !!!
      9. Assistant
        Assistant 5 February 2014 01: 36
        +2
        if only they bring from Belarus


        Do not drink more Belarusian production; its quality has sharply decreased. Although, it may be right that even alcohol producers push us to sobriety.
    2. ed65b
      ed65b 4 February 2014 09: 23
      +4
      Quote: Mature Naturalist
      Pepsi generation prefers drugs (I judge by my porch)
      change of generations - change of priorities ...

      100% plus Chinese butor. And the government sees all the troubles in tobacco smoking stubbornly not noticing the obvious addiction of youth.
    3. Timeout
      Timeout 4 February 2014 10: 33
      +2
      Quote: Mature Naturalist
      Pepsi generation prefers

      This is not the Pepsi generation, this is the generation of yagi, but drugs as a result ...
    4. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 4 February 2014 13: 00
      +2
      Quote: Mature Naturalist
      Pepsi generation prefers drugs (I judge by my porch)
      change of generations - change of priorities ...


      the Pepsi generation is already 30 and more years old ...
      now generation "Y" (game) :)))
    5. vell.65mail.ru
      vell.65mail.ru 7 February 2014 23: 08
      0
      And it’s better two or three glasses, for appetite, but the third is already superfluous.
  2. mirag2
    mirag2 4 February 2014 08: 13
    +30
    The decrease in alcoholism — at least in my area — is on the face — and is very strong.
    Over the past 4 years.
    About 5 years ago, there were a lot of drunks, and now, almost in the whole region, nobody seemed to have formed a group, and that’s all, the same faces ...
    Because it’s impossible to drink and work (unless you let go of marriage), because it’s worth the choice to either drink, or work and live.
    I don’t drink and don’t understand - what a buzz to dull your brains, no matter what the shisha is, and then get bad, it’s better to go, give someone someone money that you drink so that you’ll smash your face, then it will be bad, but but you will not create problems for which you then pay.
    They are sitting in jail for the murder of two, three people are asked: “How did it happen?” “Yes, he was drunk, I don’t remember anything ...
    And if there’s any stress, which you can’t handle yourself, it’s better to drink a sedative pill ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 February 2014 08: 22
      +22
      Quote: mirag2
      Because it is impossible to drink and work (

      There was no work, people thumped, that's all.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 4 February 2014 08: 32
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: mirag2
        Because it is impossible to drink and work (
        There was no work, people thumped, that's all.

        Another pre-Olympic obgazhivanie residents of Russia.
        By EuroNews EVERYDAY presents Euro-sensations ...
        Today it is:
        - supposedly the Germans (ARD TV channel) bought in Moscow a synthetic dope of a new type, which makes it possible to increase muscle mass in a short time, from some Russian scientist;
        - Found unfinished PRIVATE hotels in Sochi. True, those belong to foreign owners.
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 4 February 2014 09: 03
          +9
          I wondered everything. Who, I think, on this subject will mention the Olympics.
          Ilyich was the first to take the start ... hi
          Well, since we often resort to symbolism, then ...
          1

          2


          I have - No comments ....
          1. Pinochet000
            Pinochet000 4 February 2014 15: 37
            +2
            Rezi (p). Speak, speak, speech. But here, in contrast to the verb, there is a rigid (forceful), clear form of presenting verbal information. Speech is to divide, to distinguish between generally accepted antagonistic concepts (truth is not true; grains are tares, falsehood is a lie), to breed them on different sides. The numerical value is 100. And by the number we see how the division proceeds, the definition of the original (1) between the two spheres (00). Speech is a certain memorized text. "Today is a holiday in our school, the pioneers rejoice, today Lavrenty Palych Beria came to visit us."
            R ци - - there is a separating, clearly defining form, which delimits the concepts of homogeneity, structure, form.
            TALK - demarcation (p) of wisdom of two spheres (ovo) with the verb (g).
            an adverb is not our speech, but similar in its origin to the celestial (NT), and somewhere it has already been (i) manifested. Belarusian, Ukrainian, Polish, etc. are the dialects of the Old Russian language.
            Ra - God literally says (Az). And what is the result of this utterance? Strength - energy (p), coming from some source, beginning (a). This is a flow of energy-force (light, radiance, radiation, i.e. something consisting of rays). And these rays-rays (photons, quanta) are forms of energy-force, i.e. P in figurative understanding - force (energy). We read “double-row”: the source of power, the original energy, God's power.
            It is no coincidence that the P-shaped torch and the sign of our national currency Р...recently))
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 4 February 2014 08: 35
        +3
        Here I disagree, there is no work, do something, not that "your own business", "business", etc., not everyone can do it, just something, a hobby, if there is no money, such an occupation that does not require investment.
        Although you study palmistry, you need one book, in short, take care of the sea exercises ...
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 4 February 2014 11: 21
          +6
          Quote: mirag2
          Here I do not agree, no work, do something

          Well, you're talking about the ideal world of elves, and Alexander about the reality of Mordor laughing
          No, really, the people have changed. Maybe there is more work. Motorization of the population and tightening for alcohol while driving plays a significant role. In the office there was no one to drink with! Half don't drink, half behind the wheel sad In the middle, I am with my bike - like an "athlete", but the rights will not be taken away laughing
      3. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 4 February 2014 09: 30
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There was no work, people thumped, that's all.

        Well, when you have 3,4 work there is no time to thump, but what is there, there is no time to sleep !!!
        Mortgage lending acts like an encoding laughing people do not need to be treated, they must be occupied hi
        1. screw cutter
          screw cutter 4 February 2014 13: 15
          +5
          Ie Do you think that 3,4 work is much healthier?
          I’ve been convinced from my personal life experience that drinkers still live longer than workaholics / those who really plow, and not fables tell /. Everything should be in moderation, even water can be poisoned without measure.
          P.S. Personally, I think people who don’t drink at all are suspicious, or you can’t do it already / I drank it off and my health doesn’t allow /, or I’m afraid / because I don’t remember later what was / or drunk and afraid to lose my job, my family.
      4. datolith
        datolith 4 February 2014 10: 04
        +6
        I agree with you. When the army did not pay and there they thumped. It also seemed to me that now they began to drink less. And it’s difficult to calculate specifically.
        1. papuasimus
          papuasimus 4 February 2014 13: 40
          +1
          I remembered my service - like DD, so at least cry (where to put such a lot of money!?!?!). Gathered, thumped and it seems not so sad .....
      5. Manager
        Manager 4 February 2014 13: 04
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There was no work, people thumped, that's all.

        Tajiks and Uzbeks have no work. What do they drink? Yes, to hell there! They are going to work for us. There is no excuse for alcoholism. But for the opinion plus)))
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 8 February 2014 19: 55
          0
          They do not drink, but they chew "nasvai" and smoke weed or something more serious, at best, they jam tea with buckets, but they don’t drink (with their own people).
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 4 February 2014 09: 40
      +5
      Quote: mirag2
      Because drinking and working is impossible

      Well, this is a moot point. There are such works that without 100 gr., You can’t get into such a cesspool. Even to relieve stress during work (not at all) it is sometimes useful to take it on your chest. Of course, getting behind the wheel or steering wheel while drinking is nonsense. I say in advance that I myself do not drink and do not welcome this thing, but I don’t reject cultural drinking .
    3. c3r
      c3r 4 February 2014 14: 05
      0
      Yes, I highly recommend AFOBAZOL! wink
    4. Penzyac
      Penzyac 8 February 2014 19: 44
      0
      I don’t drink it myself now, but those who never at least somehow seriously drank much do not understand how a child does not understand the danger of fire until it is burned with fire.
  3. skeptic
    skeptic 4 February 2014 11: 18
    0
    Quote: Civil
    There is a decrease, it’s true, but I judge only by my environment.

    good
  4. CALL.
    CALL. 4 February 2014 11: 52
    +3
    Quote: Civil
    There is a decrease, it’s true, but I judge only by my environment.

    In my surroundings - I confirm! Even those young people who come for an internship with us drink even less than my generation. About a third, neither drinks nor smokes at all, goes in for sports.
  5. starshina78
    starshina78 4 February 2014 11: 58
    +5
    I can tell from my surroundings, my friends and colleagues at work - they began to drink less, and much, and many, including myself, have not drunk for 14 years, have completely abandoned the addiction. And my friends and colleagues are mainly people working in road transport, engineers and drivers, and they have always been on the "edge" of the problem, so to speak. If earlier something terrible was going on in the workshop on Fridays, drunk people had to be pulled out of every corner, now on Friday most go home sober, and if anyone drinks, then a bottle for three and that's all, and with a snack.
  6. 123dv
    123dv 4 February 2014 13: 32
    +8
    What was the reason for reducing the level of alcohol consumption in Russia? The main factors that can be identified are: a ban on alcohol advertising in the media, a ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages at night, a ban on the sale of alcohol during celebrations in various regions of the country.

    The article is crude, the conclusions are untrue, it’s ridiculous to read, like a progress report ...

    In our organization on corporate parties of 2005-2007 people were simply taken out flat, and there wasn’t any vodka, how much do not run to the store for it ...
    And now, the same people, on the same dates, peacefully drink tea and cake, and are extremely happy. And no one forbade them anything.
    It is wonderful that they prohibit the advertising of alcohol, and limit the sale, and they protect the youngsters, but all this became a real force only with a change in the general level of the moral condition of the population for the better. But this is not done by force.
    The people sober up, the hangover passes!
    AMEN.
  7. AVV
    AVV 4 February 2014 14: 16
    +1
    Quote: Civil
    Koldy have not been drinking vodka for a long time, but pepper, so to speak, perfumery and hawthorn, vodka is mostly preferred by the older generation. There is a decrease, it’s true, but I judge only by my environment.

    During posts, there is definitely a decrease in consumption !!!
  8. brainkiller
    brainkiller 4 February 2014 14: 35
    +4
    Quote: Civil
    Koldy have not been drinking vodka for a long time, but pepper, so to speak, perfumery and hawthorn, vodka is mostly preferred by the older generation. There is a decrease, it’s true, but I judge only by my environment.

    I remembered a joke saying "in winter the most drinking country is Russia and in summer Turkey" © =)))
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  10. ABV
    ABV 5 February 2014 02: 10
    +1
    Quote: Civil
    Koldy have not been drinking vodka for a long time, but pepper, so to speak, perfumery and hawthorn, vodka is mostly preferred by the older generation. There is a decrease, it’s true, but I judge only by my environment.


    And I see a decline in my surroundings, and the absence of drunks is more noticeable on the streets ...
    Indeed, as it is not noticeable, but everything became sober!
  11. Foxmara
    Foxmara 7 February 2014 14: 00
    0
    and in recent years I have hardly even consumed beer. All the time behind the wheel and "you will not relax")) I discovered that I did not pull even when there was such a possibility. And my environment, as it was a little drinker, remained so. I am glad that they do not sell at night. Now in the summer you can sleep with the windows open - no BOOM BOOM BOOM! And that - all night went for booze.
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  13. Yazov
    Yazov 10 February 2014 17: 22
    0
    they do not drink vodka, but pepper M ... yes, and pepper is this vodka, only infused with pepper. Be in the subject! Do not confuse peppercorns with chatormat, brake and technical alcohol.
  • invisibility
    invisibility 4 February 2014 08: 06
    +14
    Instead of crafty numbers, it would be better to deal with the quality of alcohol! For all positions.
    And give people work and confidence in tomorrow. They drink in the villages because there’s nothing to do. There was work, no! There were clubs in FIG not needed!
    And after that we’ll count ..
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 8 February 2014 20: 08
      0
      I noticed that in the villages they began to drink less. Previously, there were several shredders on each street, but now there are almost none, mostly pensioners drink only a few, and the workers either tied it up or encoded it.
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  • jjj
    jjj 4 February 2014 08: 15
    +32
    I myself have not been drinking since February 5 of 1995 of the year. Before that, I had a dose of two bottles of brandy per day. When I stopped drinking, I realized how much shit I let through me. And the money started to appear
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 4 February 2014 09: 25
      +13
      Quote: jjj
      I myself have not been drinking since February 5 of 1995 of the year. Before that, I had a dose of two bottles of brandy per day. When I stopped drinking, I realized how much shit I let through me. And the money started to appear

      tough you dude swelled. Respect that threw. hi
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 4 February 2014 09: 36
      +10
      Quote: jjj
      Before that, I had a dose of two bottles of brandy per day.

      Duc for two bubbles of horse meat must still be earned.
      And when to earn if you already have to drink, you need to start ...
      Quote: jjj
      And the money started to appear

      Yes, here not only "appear", there will be nowhere to put them ... laughing
    3. papuasimus
      papuasimus 4 February 2014 13: 44
      +3
      I have had problems with a green snake for ten years. The second year is not a drop, and the result is one - there is not enough money (I don’t have food / clothes, but children don’t have a car and apartments).
      It’s not a matter of alcohol, but of a person, and the availability of good work, too.
    4. xan
      xan 5 February 2014 12: 51
      0
      Quote: jjj
      Before that, I had a dose of two bottles of brandy per day.

      this is the dose! I would die for 3 days.
      I don’t drink cognac, my body doesn’t accept it - there’s garbage in my head and heaviness in my stomach, I prefer vodka from Moscow “Kristall”, especially “Stolichnaya” - I never let me down.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 8 February 2014 20: 16
        0
        Yes, at such doses of brandy, after a week you even begin to sweat with a golem sivuha, it is checked on yourself.
  • dmitrich
    dmitrich 4 February 2014 08: 26
    +6
    drinking less became a fact, after the ban on the sale of alcohol at night. Young people were crowded near the stalls until the morning, now this is almost gone.
  • bya965
    bya965 4 February 2014 09: 06
    +3
    What was the reason for reducing the level of alcohol consumption in Russia? The main factors that can be identified are: a ban on alcohol advertising in the media, a ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages at night, a ban on the sale of alcohol during celebrations in various regions of the country.

    But in fact, this cool unit (photo of mine)
    The Ermak column is filled with ceramic balls that provide a 100-fold degree of purification.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 4 February 2014 10: 53
      +3
      bya965 discard the drawing. And instructions.
      1. Darn
        Darn 4 February 2014 11: 36
        +2
        It is sold in the Yandex market.
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  • Magyar
    Magyar 4 February 2014 20: 22
    +3
    The problem of drinking alcohol and other rubbish requires an integrated approach. The first and most important introduction of a state monopoly on the production and sale of alcohol and tobacco. The creation of specialized state-owned retail outlets for trading in potions, a temporary restriction on sales is permissible only five days a week except Saturday and Sunday, sales time from 11 am to 7 pm. Further, criminalizing the sale of alcohol and tobacco by individuals who do not have permission for this type of activity, and for moonshining with a view to selling it, you also have to criminalize it, you want to brew moonshine and drink it, it’s not your business, but to sell it for nothing. The second complete ban on the production and sale of so-called energy drinks is locked on the production of beer with a strength of more than 5 degrees and the bottling and sale of beer in containers of more than 0.5 liters. The proceeds from the sale of alcohol and tobacco should be directed to the development of mass sports in the regions. It is necessary to create sports sections as in the days of the USSR when any child could freely come and study for free. We need a rigorous anti-alcohol campaign with a demonstration of the effects of alcohol and tobacco through all informationally accessible channels. The third is the introduction of the Death Penalty for the sale, transportation, storage of narcotic drugs; all smoking mixtures are classified as narcotic. People who use drugs should be recognized as socially dangerous, followed by compulsory treatment and occupational therapy, the construction of a road network to Magadan and the Kamchatka Peninsula is perfect. Persons from Central Asia who bring drugs must be classified as especially dangerous terrorists with the subsequent application of special measures to them, that is, physical elimination without the possibility of appealing to delay the process. I can say for myself that I don’t use it at all to relate to tobacco, Guys have one real buzz is the company of their beloved woman, but if it’s young it’s just super so many beautiful girls around just go for it as they say, but what else I want to say that alcohol and tobacco are capital on potency and this is not the tale of doctors but the harsh truth. The fact that drinking has become less encouraging, but this is only the beginning of a long way to bring the brains and bodies of the Russian people in order. The main thing is a positive movement. I wrote a lot, I’ll round up. All health and a good boner !!!
    1. alone
      alone 4 February 2014 21: 06
      +1
      Surely, these data were taken with the expectation that so many decalitres of alcohol were sold officially in the country over the year, but we all know very well about the wonderful device that drives Moonshine, which is not included in official statistics. This was even a problem in Soviet times. By the way, the video to the topic) laughing With a wonderful song laughing
  • kris
    kris 5 February 2014 11: 47
    +1
    WHO estimates per capita alcohol production.
    And we have up to half the alcohol done according to the left schemes.
    And drunkenness can be judged by baskets in supermarkets (half contains alcohol) and cattle with bottles, which occupied all the parks and shops.
  • Sars
    Sars 4 February 2014 07: 24
    +23
    I will not say for all of Russia, and in the Altai Territory, after raising excise taxes on vodka, people are massively switching to moonshine.
    1. artifox
      artifox 4 February 2014 07: 48
      +12
      Quote: SarS
      I will not say for all of Russia, and in the Altai Territory, after raising excise taxes on vodka, people are massively switching to moonshine.


      Yes, everywhere they go to moonshine. Dial in Yandex a moonshine still - which just is not for sale. So moonshine with the right approach is much better. I have a very large number of friends who bought moonshines and have already forgotten when they bought vodka for the last time in a store. Moreover, they already do not want to drink vodka at any feast - for the disgusting one - they go with their moonshine to visit.

      So it turns out a decrease in the purchase of alcohol in stores - here you have the statistics.
      1. Mature naturalist
        Mature naturalist 4 February 2014 08: 10
        +14
        By the way, on the moonshine forums such recipes!
        actually all over the world they prefer distillation (moonshining) - cognac, whiskey, rum
        only vodka is made by distillation (with us)
        and this is not good, because with the complete absence of sivuhi in the product, the liver does not consider it poison and people. drunk faster
        1. jjj
          jjj 4 February 2014 08: 20
          +5
          In the early days, there was a glass of rye vodka, you still slam the distillate. Sewes up in the brain slightly. An hour later, again like a piece of glass. But when the vodka went "with a foolishness" in the morning you cannot get up. The drunkard didn't help much. I had to empirically figure out that cognac is safer. Until I realized that this is a direct path to the cemetery
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 4 February 2014 08: 43
            +9
            Lord, this is not the quality of vodka that has worsened, but your health!
            Drink now the purest alcohol, in which no impurities at all — and you’ll feel bad in the morning, aren’t wrong, of course, if you are poisoned by a sivuha — but also bad, because the very effect of alcohol on the brain and the whole organism is POISONING — only with its specific symptoms!
      2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 4 February 2014 08: 22
        +3
        Ah, and they also carry schnapps to us in Kazakhstan from Kazakhstan, on Saturday I visited my brother at his birthday ... sheer muck! Kazakhs you only know how to print beautiful labels? am
        And they really began to drink less and smoke! hi
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 4 February 2014 11: 22
          +5
          Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
          And they really began to drink less and smoke!

          Here they began to smoke more, moreover women. Among all my friends, non-smokers are more than men.
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 4 February 2014 11: 41
            +3
            I don’t know about smokers anymore ... But, really, I worked for a while in a small office, so there was only one accountant and smoked ... and, I lie, I’m still a lawyer. And the general did not smoke or drink, at all. Well, right, for a lawyer with an accountant to implement all ingenious schemes laughing
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 4 February 2014 11: 45
              +2
              Quote: bot.su
              I don’t know about smoking anymore ..
              More, more. Near the offices there are only women with cigarettes.
      3. mirag2
        mirag2 4 February 2014 08: 40
        +6
        All this is bullshit, what has Yandex and drunkenness to do with, well, I'll type "drugs" in Google, a sea of ​​all kinds of rubbish will pop up, even methods of synthesizing methadone ...
        And what? This does not mean that everyone from vodka switched to methadone and only do that they cook it at home for days on end!
        But who says so:
        "Everyone switched to moonshine" - is trying to justify either his drunkenness or the fact that he himself drinks moonshine.
        Drinking badly, for everything — both for health and for his whole life, for achieving success — is not necessarily material, but also for spiritual growth.
      4. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 4 February 2014 08: 57
        +6
        moonshine still appeared long before the Internet, and the Internet is just an integrator, but you just need to know the number of clicks is not equal to the number of devices. It says specifically, the overall consumption is reduced, not the store, calculation methods take into account everything, mine private observation, the number of people drunk and with a hangover I meet has recently decreased both in the metropolis and in small towns. On New Year's holidays, in 2014, the full house was not in grocery stores, but in building materials stores.
    2. Horn
      Horn 4 February 2014 08: 28
      +16
      I live in the Altai Territory. I do not see a "mass transition to moonshine". There is no one to drive for. The number of drinkers has decreased significantly.
      1. Vasek
        Vasek 4 February 2014 21: 12
        0
        Quote: Horn
        There are fewer drinkers.

        According to statistics, all Russian drunks have moved to Moldova. laughing
        And if she took domestic wine into account, it would be an incredible margin!
    3. Manager
      Manager 4 February 2014 13: 07
      +2
      Quote: SarS
      people are massively switching to moonshine.


      You need to switch to sports .... They themselves are ruining themselves, but Putin is to blame!
  • Ihrek
    Ihrek 4 February 2014 07: 24
    +15
    By the way, this is noticeable in life, people really began to drink less compared to 5-10 years ago.
    1. artifox
      artifox 4 February 2014 07: 52
      +6
      Quote: Jamal1974
      By the way, this is noticeable in life, people really began to drink less compared to 5-10 years ago.

      Well, I don’t know how drunks drank in the courtyard - and they drink, as they chewed checks at the store opposite, they buy it. And those who do not buy - drink moonshine.

      On the other hand, I won’t say how 5-10 years ago, but in the 90s they drank a lot, because everyone had great stress. They never knew what would happen next. Now most people have some kind of but stability in life and have confidence in the future. These people drink much less - only on holidays. Well, basically they don’t get drunk in the trash, but for the mood. Then yes, I agree.
      1. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 4 February 2014 08: 35
        +3
        drunks have always been ... not an indicator. these will always find. and somehow the "blue brotherhood" became less callous.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 8 February 2014 20: 35
          0
          No need to condemn sick people, the body of people is different. they must be helped to transfer the disease to a stage of stable remission, and it is useless to indulge and scold and punish them.
      2. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 4 February 2014 09: 50
        +4
        Quote: artifox
        And those who do not buy - drink moonshine.

        Under Brezhnev, there was a moonshine in almost every house (at least in the village), although vodka was piled up. Only then they started selling it after 11, but I would not say that there was a general drunkenness, we drank and worked, and by the way , at that time there was an article for parasitism and there were LTP, which even now would not hurt to introduce.
      3. Olegovich
        Olegovich 4 February 2014 12: 56
        +1
        Quote: artifox
        Well, I don’t know how drunks drank in the courtyard - and they drink, as they chewed checks at the store opposite, they buy it. And those who do not buy - drink moonshine.

        In our city (Volgograd Region) the number of drunkards has decreased: someone has died, someone has been sent to prison, and someone has thrown out due to health. Another thing is important here - their ranks are not replenishing, as before. Young people really drink less, and beer in general.
      4. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 4 February 2014 18: 10
        0
        At pharmacies you can see. All the hawthorn bubbles are littered.
    2. Arhj
      Arhj 4 February 2014 09: 13
      +2
      Drinking less is good. One thing is alarming - as soon as we achieve some results in the fight against something, we immediately calm down. Therefore, the approach to the issue must be somewhat different. Not "we have moved to the second ten among the most drinking countries," but "we are in the second ten from the end among the most non-drinking countries"
    3. datolith
      datolith 4 February 2014 10: 17
      0
      Another indicator, skating rinks and you can see who is on them. For example, in Saratov in the 2000s this was not.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 February 2014 07: 29
    +5
    Firstly, we were never the most drinking nation, there is nothing to be proud of. And secondly, with such statements, the current government so raises its image (image) in the eyes of the population.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 4 February 2014 08: 44
      +2
      I will add for clarification. Do you think drunkenness is vodka? Are they just indulging in "pivasik"? Beer alcoholism will be more terrible, because a person does not notice how he drinks himself.
      1. Lk17619
        Lk17619 4 February 2014 08: 57
        +7
        Quote: Gardamir
        Beer alcoholism will be worse, because a person does not notice how he is drunk.


        Not just worse, vodka is made at least somehow from alcohol, but beer ... there xp ... you understand, one chemistry.
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 4 February 2014 09: 19
          +6
          Quote: Lk17619
          but beer ..... there xp ... understand, one chemistry.

          Do not call the thing that bottled.
          I don’t want to drink real beer, but SLOWLY.

          Although I myself am neither a fan of this very beer, nor the wine of "some kind of mossy year", nor any other drink, be it from corn or cactus.
          Only 250-350 grams of VODOCHKA at the end of the week If this does not contradict the moral character and does not cause inconvenience to others ...

          In general, the SOLUTION is soulless and treacherous.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 4 February 2014 09: 58
            +9
            Quote: Ptah
            In general, the SOLUTION is soulless and treacherous.

            What is now considered beer is not beer. You would try your own brewing beer, which you did before at home. This is beer! True, there’s a lot of trouble with him: you need malt, hops and fermentation takes time. And you got such kvass from the wort from the wort, you won’t drag it by the ears. And now they’ll maltose and think this beer, fools! My drink. drinks
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 4 February 2014 10: 06
              +3
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              You would try your own brewing beer, which you did before at home. This is beer!

              I didn’t do it myself. But a warm, still just cooked try a lot happened.
              And if even when honey is taken as an ingredient for fermentation, then yeah. It is more like FOOD rather than drink.
              But he didn’t become a fan - only “solution”. A little - but expensive. drinks
          2. sasha.28blaga
            sasha.28blaga 6 February 2014 05: 16
            +1
            At the end of the week, I myself love to master a half liter. Especially if the mood is for a walk, so generally I can drink until the morning.
        2. Slavapom
          Slavapom 4 February 2014 11: 15
          +3
          I’ll put in my five cents, as narcologists say, beer alcoholism, unlike vodka, is incurable, so lowering the consumption of strong alcohol is certainly good, but with beer, with the so-called low alcohol also needs to be fought, to be more precise to reduce its consumption. As a matter of fact, anti-beer has already gone on social networks.
        3. sasha.28blaga
          sasha.28blaga 6 February 2014 05: 15
          +2
          the calculation of the amount of alcohol consumed is calculated not only from the vodka drunk, but from the alcohol drunk in general in terms of ethyl alcohol. Any alcoholic product contains a certain percentage of alcohol. Therefore, it doesn’t matter whether beer, vodka or wine is drunk by the population, but the amount of alcohol sold as a whole is important.
      2. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 4 February 2014 09: 18
        +3
        firstly, all alcohol is taken into account, and secondly, those surrogates of beer that are sold everywhere, not beer, but a solution of alcohol in urine
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 4 February 2014 11: 28
          +1
          Quote: nov_tech.vrn
          and secondly, those surrogates of beer that they sell everywhere, not beer, but a solution of alcohol in urine

          We have a small Czech brewery called Horlbat, this beer. And the Samara "Zhigulevskoe" lately has been mutilated, this always happens when people are chasing after quantity. hi
    2. igordok
      igordok 4 February 2014 08: 46
      0
      It seems that the Czechs excelled.
  • svoi
    svoi 4 February 2014 07: 29
    +6
    Not so much the actual use has decreased, but the statistical one. This is due to the adoption in 2013 (the most positive, from the point of view of the author of the publication) of the minimum price, the most active consumers switched to the so-called alcohol. cosmetic product. Everything turned out very much in our opinion, it is possible to report about a decrease, improvement and other positive things, but as there really is, it does not matter much.
    1. lapo32
      lapo32 4 February 2014 07: 56
      +7
      There are fewer drunkards in the streets, I don’t drink en masse, at least on the streets, but young people are actively expanding, and what’s better, the drunken overslept, and the drug never
    2. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 6 February 2014 05: 22
      +1
      Quite right. We call this cosmetic liquid "Handeburka". Price RUB 50 fortress 80-82-85%. Local antabuses still walk around with a poltorashka half filled with water, they got half a half of the khandeburk, they bought it in half a polar, and all the drink is ready.
  • monolit55
    monolit55 4 February 2014 07: 37
    +1
    I’ll probably agree about Moldova. They start drinking from childhood. Wine replaces water. I saw it myself. But with Russia I don’t believe the numbers. They drink with us ....
    1. Horn
      Horn 4 February 2014 08: 26
      +6
      You are drinking? Are your environment alcoholics? No need to duplicate mantra Russophobia!
    2. Dym71
      Dym71 4 February 2014 10: 36
      -2
      And how many drunkards did you see in Moldova?
    3. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 6 February 2014 05: 24
      +1
      and they drink very much, at home, in the hospital, in areas, in the police, at work, in the service ...
  • AlexxxNik
    AlexxxNik 4 February 2014 07: 39
    +10
    trend. Of course it’s good, the country is sobering, only the comparison of ethyl alcohol is not correct. in composition, Russian alcohol is, in the majority, a terrible substitute. each time coming from abroad and having spent that little that customs allows you to import, you start collecting information about more or less used from our alcohol production, cognacs disappear immediately, cognac is a synonym for DV, choosing vodka is like winning the lottery, you take it on advice friends and then for a long time you convince yourself that they are not from evil. He concluded for himself that the lion's share of our domestic crime is on the conscience of effective managers from the alcohol industry, who interfere with almost military poisonous substances in the bottle. I noticed for myself how strikingly different the behavior of the same people from the crew in Russian and Japanese ports, precisely because of different alcohol. in South Korea they got their bearings and began to make cheap, but stronger than for themselves, alcohol and the result of the Russian spill for Russians
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 4 February 2014 08: 48
      +6
      Here again I do not understand - "surrogate, surrogate ..." - WELL, DO NOT DRINK this surrogate!
      You do not need this.
      What for yourself to poison yourself? Better to refuse, there is no high-quality alcohol, well, and do not, but I will not drink muck.
      Why not think so, huh?
      1. AlexxxNik
        AlexxxNik 4 February 2014 10: 14
        -3
        Quote: mirag2
        What for yourself to poison yourself?

        the question is not whether to drink or not drink domestic, but that the majority have no choice, and drinking, unfortunately, thanks to the same Ryazanov with his traditional annual "irony of fate", has become in certain cases a ritual ... and here they are awaited by our radical liberal alcohol industry with its mixtures, and it seems to me that a Frenchman, having drunk his 14 liters a year, will not get even a quarter in the liver from what falls on our 13.5, but from here the so-called. tearing off the roof and in the direction of aggression. but for myself, I made conclusions a long time ago, though it's a pity to pay a piece for a bottle, which costs 10 bucks over the hill.
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 8 February 2014 20: 47
        0
        You can think, but not all opportunities coincide with desires. and "hunting" is greater than bondage.
    2. ed65b
      ed65b 4 February 2014 09: 33
      +1
      About Yu. Korea. The comrade has been living there for 20 years. It is officially allowed to drink low-alcohol drinks at work. At lunch, you can roll and strong drinks. At the discretion of the drinker. But one condition as soon as the drinker stops working (tired, led) is a complete ban on the use of alcohol by this individual. I laughed for a long time, imagined, let us thump all over the country at work. But the Korean is Russian, and what Russian does not want to drink his beloved vodka, here they are, all compatriots once a week go for 100 miles to a Russian restaurant and there they come off in full (our vodka is there, everyone speaks Russian).
      1. AlexxxNik
        AlexxxNik 4 February 2014 10: 20
        +3
        Now in Busan, Russians have become smaller, and in the lush 90s I had to take guys from an Amer aircraft carrier to our bar, our women wouldn’t let them go without us, they say they will take a bottle of beer and hang around all evening, and they trade with prostitutes like that what seems to give him twenty, so he himself is ready to serve
  • skipper57
    skipper57 4 February 2014 07: 40
    +10
    I have not bought alcohol for a year now. I make a great moonshine. Everyone likes it, but about the quality of what you can buy is a question. And why buy this swill? At the same time, I do not consider myself a drinking audience and can freely do without alcohol, but there are too many holidays (not official).
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 4 February 2014 07: 43
    +19
    In my area they began to drink less, many went to work, and whoever drank hard, he died.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 4 February 2014 07: 46
      +5
      quotation-Let us return to the indicators of alcohol consumption in Russia.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 4 February 2014 08: 59
        +1
        By the way, pretty encouraging indicators, not everything is still running. laughing
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      3. Tersky
        Tersky 4 February 2014 09: 31
        +3
        Apollo hi ! One of the examples of "tricky statistics" -Net profit of "Tatspirtprom" (Kazan, one of the largest domestic producers of alcoholic beverages) according to RAS in January-September 2013 compared to the same period in 2012 decreased by 3,3% - to 264 million rubles, according to the company's materials.
        Revenue from sales of products, works, services (excluding VAT and excise taxes) increased by 46% - up to 4,6 billion rubles.
        "The production of alcoholic beverages in January-September 2013 compared to the same period in 2012 increased by 33% - up to 6,2 million decaliters, sales of alcoholic beverages - by 31%, up to 6,1 million decaliters, including sales of products in regions of the Russian Federation - 2,2 times to 3,7 million decalitres, "- noted in the materials of OJSC" Tatspirtprom ", prepared following the meeting of the board of directors, held on Monday, chaired by the Prime Minister of Tatarstan Ildar Khalikov.
        Alcohol production at Tatspirtprom decreased by 7% - to 1,5 million decaliters. The production capacity of the distilleries was used 100%. The entire volume of alcohol was used for its own production of alcoholic beverages.
        The Board of Directors approved the Tatspirtprom budget for 2014. The volume of production of alcoholic beverages is planned at 8,5 million decaliters, rectified alcohol - 2,2 million decaliters. It is planned that in 2014 the company will sell 8,9 million decaliters of alcoholic beverages, including 5,4 million decaliters to the regions of the Russian Federation. Net profit for 2014 is planned in the amount of 478 million rubles, proceeds from the sale of products, works, services (excluding VAT and excise taxes) - more than 7 billion rubles.
        Tatspirtprom includes three distilleries, three distilleries and one winery. The brands of the company known in the Russian market are vodka Graf Ledoff, Khanskaya, Akdov.
        information from the site polpred.com
  • SibRUS
    SibRUS 4 February 2014 07: 57
    +4
    As official vodka rises in price, the use of a surrogate increases, official statistics will not calculate this. The truth is somewhere in between.
  • Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 4 February 2014 08: 00
    +4
    Of course, they began to drink less. But not as much as in statistics. For example, one can easily get decent Kazakhstan vodka from us for 70-100 rubles. In contrast to 250 rubles. in shops.
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 4 February 2014 08: 04
    +11
    If you provide people with work, for children and young people to develop an interest in sports, creativity, as in the Soviet years, organize up to yard sports teams, competitions between them, modeling clubs, and that all this would be accessible to children, even from the poorest families, only then it can be hoped that the interest in alcohol and drugs among young people will drop sharply, which means that society as a whole will be healthier.
  • Horst78
    Horst78 4 February 2014 08: 10
    +6
    Good news and I believe her.
  • shitovmg
    shitovmg 4 February 2014 08: 12
    +21
    I work as a foreman, directly with working people. Drink less, I declare responsibly. There are incorrigible ones, but they are gradually dying out, those who have matured because of their deteriorating health drink less and less often. Young people drink little, rarely and mostly beer - they have different values ​​in life. This is here, in the outback, where jobs are scarce and there is not much to have fun with. Article "+"
  • Letun
    Letun 4 February 2014 08: 15
    +7
    If you believe Evgeny Bryun, then in 2013 the Russians drank alcoholic drinks about 13% less than in 2012

    Here it would be necessary to write that this is licensed alcohol, and then everything will immediately fall into place.
  • Lk17619
    Lk17619 4 February 2014 08: 18
    +10
    I read the article, read the comments ... About the article: the percentage is definitely overstated, but judging by what I see, young people (men, which is strange) 18-23 years old actually began to drink less and in some places and to smoke is no longer fashionable. But among girls 18-23 years old, for some reason, it became worse on the contrary. You go in the evening from work there is a group of youth and you see mostly smokers and for some reason girls stand with beer. Strange as that. Yes, and at work we began to drink less as a team, so we’ll symbolically follow, and a couple of years ago we’re not yet learning .... although the leadership is the same.
    1. rereture
      rereture 4 February 2014 16: 17
      +2
      Because the upbringing of the girls has deteriorated. How they smoke and thump, they run the first guys, and as a child gave birth so kiss her in the ass, hard work you see. Since when, simple BIOLOGICAL actions and goals that are laid down by nature have become hard work?
  • Horn
    Horn 4 February 2014 08: 24
    +4
    Even more interesting is the situation in Sweden. As they say, who would have thought that in just two years the level of alcohol consumption in this Scandinavian country will grow so much that it will move from the fourth dozen of the rating immediately to second place!

    - Genes, probably. More recently, Sweden simply died out from alcoholism. Tough measures and prohibition literally saved the country.
    And as for Moldova, these are our homegrown opponents of the short barrel. To them it’s like a Faberge sickle. The most drinking country, weapons are allowed, but they didn’t shoot each other!
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 4 February 2014 08: 50
      +1
      But addiction is somewhere, since it was in Sweden that my brother from Estonia went to work in England, Norway and Sweden ...
    2. Normal
      Normal 4 February 2014 11: 23
      +4
      8
      Quote: Horn

      And as for Moldova, these are our homegrown opponents of the short barrel. To them it’s like a Faberge sickle. The most drinking country, weapons are allowed, but they didn’t shoot each other!

      And despite the fact that they are MOLDOVA !!! (who served with them urgently will understand what I mean)
  • dmitrich
    dmitrich 4 February 2014 08: 33
    0
    I understood that in Russia there can be, in principle, nothing good. It is only good where we are not.
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 4 February 2014 08: 35
    +7
    IN RUSSIA SPONSENT OF AGES it was shameful to drink vodka!
    and the ALCHAS LOOKED!
  • Vadim12
    Vadim12 4 February 2014 08: 36
    +10
    He used to drink in black, last year went to a narcologist, he offered me an injection Esperal. All! I do not drink, do not pull! I wish everyone a sober image!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 8 February 2014 20: 59
      0
      Esperal is a chemistry and is not good for the body, alcoholism is a psychosomatic disease and it is better to treat it with encoding according to a method that suits you individually.
  • region46
    region46 4 February 2014 08: 38
    +3
    Well, such a thing can be washed))))
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 4 February 2014 08: 38
    0
    I think the law worked well. Selling alcohol from 10 a.m. to 22 p.m. Although whoever wants to find it and still the youth began to drink less beer at night .. I remember in the morning in the summer and in the winter you go to work the bins near the benches are filled up with beer bottles .. (now purely..) drinks
    1. papuasimus
      papuasimus 4 February 2014 13: 52
      0
      They clean my area at 4-5 in the morning (at stops). In the yard somewhere at 6. You go to work - purely ....
      And whoever needs it - they pack in the evening.
  • FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 4 February 2014 08: 43
    +3
    I’m interested in the method by which these liters were calculated. I do not believe in any increase or decrease. Purely it feels like: they began to drink less, but not by much. Or maybe I just run into little lumpens - sinekes. In the factories. enterprises became stricter for drink lovers, they used to pour it right at the workplace, binge and a hangover were quite good reasons for themselves. traffic cops were more accommodating, and now a little odor - and dismissal, or for years without rights. So people are self-disciplined. Another point: somehow there were more opportunities for non-alcoholic leisure. But still pour God forbid.
  • pawel1961
    pawel1961 4 February 2014 08: 46
    0
    I do not believe . and especially WHO.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 4 February 2014 10: 04
      +2
      Quote: pawel1961
      I do not believe . and especially WHO.

      That's right: "... and the WHO is still there!"
  • Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 4 February 2014 08: 50
    +7
    Sly science statistics ...
    Although, to be honest, for everyone the most revealing example is himself.
    I note a decrease in alcohol consumption in 2013. Noticeable ... The trend is moving on to 2014.
    In general, arguing on a given topic, I always adhered to 2 main theses that normal people drink until they feel good, and idiot, then those, until it becomes bad - this is the first. Second: "Alcohol in moderate doses is useful in any quantity! .."
    Alexey Volodin, thank you very much for the review. The situation is somewhat pleasing, otherwise the Europeans have already lifted up with their generalizations and stereotypes regarding us ...
    All sober head and good mood!
  • Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 4 February 2014 08: 54
    +4
    Good news! I hope the share of alcohol consumption in Russia will continue to decline!
  • Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 4 February 2014 09: 04
    +2
    Quote: SarS
    I will not say for all of Russia, and in the Altai Territory, after raising excise taxes on vodka, people are massively switching to moonshine.

    So who spoils all statistics wassat
  • FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 4 February 2014 09: 06
    +4
    Its quality is no less important than the quantity drunk. Now many (if not most) former Soviet people have the opportunity to compare domestic alcohol with foreign ones, and this is not about elite sorts, but at least duty-free. Why, after a normal, not even expensive, alcohol bought in Europe, there is no such terrible hangover as after the one bought in our stores; and this is despite the fact that vodka is rectified and should, by definition, be "lighter" than distillates such as cognac or whiskey. There is a persistent feeling that most of our manufacturers, in collusion with regulatory authorities, are hounding us for our own money. am
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 4 February 2014 10: 10
      +2
      I don’t know what about the poison, but this is an old truth. One of my grandfathers (cousins), in the maternal presentation, said: Buy the disease with your own money and even sick. That is, this disease and vodka are not separable.
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 8 February 2014 21: 24
      0
      Everything is just the opposite: rectified chemistry - it is purified from fusel and aromatic oils and the body does not have natural mechanisms for its harmless processing, and distillates are basically much closer to natural solutions and biologically less harmful.
  • viktsavenko
    viktsavenko 4 February 2014 09: 09
    +4
    The worst thing is that our own liberals, or whoever else there, inspire us that we are the worst in the world. And they drink hard and we don’t like to work, we don’t like to work and we are all stupid who think not like them. They nod to the West to follow. But it turns out to be an example and there is no one to take. And they drink no less, and corruption in the European Union is also frantic. According to EU officials themselves, after the audit, it turned out that up to 25% of state procurement money is being stolen in the EU countries. What will the liberals say? Is Putin again to blame?
  • Asgard
    Asgard 4 February 2014 09: 21
    +10
    In connection with upcoming events (quit drinking))) not a gram of alcohol ....
    Before that I used cognac (under a barbecue)), but then again, no more than 100g .... the dose is important here, you don’t have to get carried away too fast ....., and also food (in large quantities))) is the poison ....
    Measure!? in all ....
    Objectively, they began to drink less, a friend has a store in the village, alcohol gives a profit, of course, but with every MONTH it falls .... People are sober, they began to search the sheds of the Pitch))))
    ***************************************************************************
    Last night I put the car in the garage, I walk along the rows in a cooperative, I see an open garage, a man is standing at the gate ..... with a pitchfork (In winter, in the garage, a short leather jacket, a white shirt, and a tie)))) and I ask, how much does the pitchfork sell (he obviously does not need them))
    - You see, they weren’t in the garage, they planted potatoes for the first time last year, so they spread manure with a shovel, I wanted to buy it, of course, but I didn’t get it .......
    - And then brand new pitchforks?!?!
    I’ll add from myself, these are not frail (Mighty))))
    Well, they laughed and dispersed, I go and think, SIGNS? CIRCLE (upcoming events))) and their emblem (at the initial stage)) alas will be FORKS ,,,,,,,
    Everything got enough, People stabbing people in the hands with piercing (Ukraine is a bright, burning example))) ....

    So the people, we give up drinking alcohol inside (even on great holidays)) only for disinfection of wounds, he should be in the house ....
    RELEASED.
    When we are free, then we can take a sip, but wait, no, no (if you want to survive))
    The future is beautiful and without alcohol, especially the tradition of drinking appeared in Russia only with the advent of the Romanovs (biblical project))
    Russian man has something to do more than drink and eat ,,,,
    There are MUCH MUCH MORE IMPORTANT things to work, not work .....
    1. Normal
      Normal 4 February 2014 11: 39
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      In connection with upcoming events ....

      Admit it, Vladimir, what events are brewing, and then WRITTEN !!! From obscurity and hopelessness.
  • Walk
    Walk 4 February 2014 09: 31
    +9
    In percentage terms, I will not say, but the population has become less clear. And basically, in my opinion, because the old drunks are dying out, and young people are increasingly seeing soft drinks in their hands. And another interesting feature. Every evening I see migrants (Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Uzbeks) who buy vodka and beer. And some do it every day. It seems like Muslims, and they eat guzzle and respect pork.
  • Georgic
    Georgic 4 February 2014 09: 33
    +1
    What is it all about, if all the precursors (ingredients) for the manufacture of heavy psycho-stimulants, such as amphetamine, for example, are on free sale !? drug addiction is rampant, and has become rampant. I myself live in Moscow time, I judge by a bunch of factors.
  • Name
    Name 4 February 2014 09: 33
    +2
    So always in Russia from one extreme to another - to drink or not to drink,and if in moderation to drink.That's only each I must know my measure so that in don't turn a pig!.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 4 February 2014 10: 36
      +1
      Quote: name
      ... and if in moderation to drink ...

      To the best of it, how? lips pissed off and rolled off? To drink in order to get drunk is understandable, but in moderation - why is this?



      ps
      Pigs are not born, they become pigs.
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 4 February 2014 20: 05
        +2
        Why it is not shown in the place of advertising! request
  • viktsavenko
    viktsavenko 4 February 2014 09: 33
    +2
    In the famous village of Kushchevskaya, by the way, to see a staggering drunk is a rarity. They drink, of course, but less and not under the fences. Even on the day of the village, a young guy with a can of beer, seeing a Cossack patrol, hid the can sharply (he saw it). But in general, whoever works has no time to drink. Although, a barbecue under cognac is tempting!
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 4 February 2014 09: 39
    +5
    The quality of vodka has changed for the worse. I dug recently in the garden vodka lying in the ground since 1977 year. 0,5 visor-free bottles, labels corroded by mold. But its contents are perfectly preserved and it is VODKA, and not modern alcohol with water. Although I respect Mendeleev, modern blenders simply suck or everything is given to the taste of the processor fellow
  • ed65b
    ed65b 4 February 2014 09: 44
    +3
    Alcohol has become very expensive. I judge by myself I buy less. Sometimes, all the same, I go to Kharkov and pack there, from 20 hryvnias (80 rubles) a bottle of 05 vodka, or in a dyutik at the border. And so they began to drink less. and when you drink everything you drink you need to work. Regarding the forever drunk - the forever young, only the grave will correct them as they drank the butor and so they drink it. Nothing in their life has changed for them either. They drink and die. Something like this hi
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 4 February 2014 23: 23
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      . Sometimes I still wander to Kharkov and pack there, from 20 hryvnia (80 rub) bottle of 05 vodka

      What kind of nastiness do you drink? The cost of NORMAL vodka in Ukraine starts with 40grn \ 160r, for twenty (80r) you can buy it only without an excise butor counterfeit, which we have in bulk ...
  • Committee
    Committee 4 February 2014 09: 55
    +7
    1 Uganda 17,6
    2 Luxembourg 15,6
    3 Ireland 13,7
    4 Hungary 13,6
    5 Republic of Moldova 13,2
    6 Czech Republic 13,0
    7 Croatia 12,3
    8 Germany 12,0
    9 UK 11,8
    10 Denmark 11,7
    11 Spain 11,7
    12 Cyprus 11,5
    13 Portugal 11,5
    14 Saint Lucia 11,5
    15 France 11,4
    16 Austria 11,1
    17 Switzerland 10,8
    18 Belgium 10,6
    19 Nigeria 10,6
    20 Bahamas 10,4
    21 Slovakia 10,4
    22 Russian Federation 10,3
    23 Lithuania 9,9
    24 Netherlands 9,7
    25 New Zealand 9,7
    26 Romania 9,7
    27 Latvia 9,6
  • Nester
    Nester 4 February 2014 09: 56
    +9
    As I grew older, I noticed that you go from quantity to quality. There are sometimes problems with quality, today vodka (let's call it "Ennaya") is not bad, after a couple of months it is impossible to drink. Among expensive alcohol, there is less surrogate, but the price is not friendly either. He himself comes from the village (from the Altai Territory, hello to fellow countrymen drinks ), so moonshine does not bother me, on the hunt so we prefer it. The most important thing about drinking alcohol is to remain human. And, preferably, do not drink on weekdays, and neither bring the Lord to drive behind the wheel. Life is so full of problems, why create new ones?
    Regarding the restriction on the sale of alcohol from 21 hours One aunt, a salesman in a small shop, said that banning is not necessary in the evening, but in the afternoon. In the daytime you need to work, not drink. They say that in the morning the same people will be waiting for her at the door of the store, and while we, the workers, are in a hurry to work, these gavriks are in a hurry to plant an old man. And when 9 pm comes, they are already sleeping with the righteous, and we are rolling back from work.
    And finally, a little anecdote: Drinking family. The husband thinks about something and says to his wife: Here I do not understand something. I receive an allowance of 2000 rubles and you are 1500 rubles. Another 800 rubles. we hand over bottles. I don’t understand where the money goes? "
  • ed1968
    ed1968 4 February 2014 10: 01
    +3
    Western propaganda will still promote Russia in the first place. They just can not imagine it without vodka
  • muhomor
    muhomor 4 February 2014 10: 11
    -3
    I can not allow the surrender of positions! I'm running to the store. laughing
  • skipper57
    skipper57 4 February 2014 10: 13
    +3
    I will express my opinion:
    1. The demographic pit.
    There are few young people growing up, the level of upbringing has grown noticeably (Each generation of parents becomes more "pedagogical" or something, and we devote more time to children and treat them more attentively. Look at the level of education growth among young people. Let them not all turn out to be specialists engineers, etc.), but to have a diploma on higher education has become a good form (by the way, this is a topic for discussion: is it necessary to have higher education just for education or to make it something elite and only for training specialists).
    And smart young people know their own worth, they will not thump without reason. Yes, and "thump" specifically: whiskey half with cola and sit _ talk all evening.
    2. Mortality.
    I’ll be brief - old alcoholics have all died, there remains a small generation of 40-55 year olds.
    1. late
      late 4 February 2014 11: 26
      +8
      Imagine I’m thirty years old and I don’t drink at all. A family, a little daughter, more than half of the non-drinking friends of my age plus an interest in sports along with the same non-drinking friends. At our factory, breathalyzers are installed at the entrance halls, a large enterprise, thirty-five thousand workers ))). And everyone in the city knows: thumping - the road there is closed.
  • sinukvl
    sinukvl 4 February 2014 10: 18
    +2
    Amazing series
    One and the same construction, in principle, one and the same ... only the Arabs turned out a hookah, and we have a moonshine still.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 4 February 2014 10: 25
    +2
    This is a stereotype of vodka Russia, as well as Germany beer, and France wine.
  • Waroc
    Waroc 4 February 2014 10: 30
    +14
    To drink, really, have become less!
    I speak only for myself and my friends, comrades, colleagues. Of course, there are no absolute teetotalers, but the level of consumption, compared even with 2010-2011, has decreased significantly, and since 2005-2007 - it's just "heaven and earth". Now, when celebrating an event at work - for 13-15 people, 1-2 bottles of maximum leave (half uses juices and water, another 2-3 people - a couple of glasses, well, whoever is not driving and has a desire - yes they drink , but within reasonable limits and with a hearty snack). For a couple of years now I myself have had a desire to quit drinking altogether and finally without any compromises like wine or beer - to quit drinking absolutely and irrevocably (at the moment I drink only on big holidays, and even then not in all, and I drink a little, I prefer a couple glasses of wine). And there was a time when I drank a bottle of vodka steadily a day and still managed to suck 3-4 beer and a half (((Disgusting time - all the time in nirvana, fog, as I remember - it becomes disgusting myself (((And it was around 2003-2006) (((How I didn’t drink myself completely, how I could stop ... And now I have reason to boast - I don’t really drink for months (in general, not a drop, not even a sip of beer, nothing alcohol) - I am glad of this and, most importantly, I do not want to start! You just have to ask yourself a question - why bother, what does it give you, can you really not live without a blueprint ??? And answer this question, answer without reference to circumstances, to the type of "decency", when well, like "not humanly ... you respect me ... such a reason ... ". I asked myself this question on February 2, 2011 - I will never forget this date - this is a turning point for me. I wish everyone had such a day and than before - the better, but it's better not to start at all !!!)))

    PS: My father drank heavily, but threw absolutely 40-odd, now more than 20 years an absolute teetotaler. I am now 36 - I am confidently going to a complete rejection of alcohol))) Yes, as they say, I have already drunk my own, but I still have many years ahead with a clear mind and a sober memory. Two siblings also practically do not consume - which is what I wish to everyone))) !!! Blue, really, - Ch.M.O.!)))
    1. demon184
      demon184 4 February 2014 10: 50
      0
      Only your environment has become less drunk, and only by the fact that you are older, you look at 20-30 year olds, they drink like we do in their years and maybe more. all whose brains are more or less preserved, stop drinking completely or sharply reduce their consumption closer to 40 years.
  • gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 4 February 2014 10: 33
    +5
    Alcohol in Russia is the root of all misfortunes and defeats. It is strange to read here the arguments of some about the need to drink quality and in moderation. And then the same will talk about the bad manners of youth. And you educate youth by your example. One at the table shows the children the image of alkosvin, and the other a jog in the morning. Question: which of them is a real man and father?
    When consumption in Russia drops (or rather, it returns to normal) to 1 liter or less, in 20-30 years the whole life of the whole world will change.
    1. nerd.su
      nerd.su 4 February 2014 11: 31
      +4
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      When consumption in Russia drops (or rather, it returns to normal) to 1 liter or less, in 20-30 years the whole life of the whole world will change.

      Well, yes, budget revenues will fall and you have to go shake the whole world - share it with teetotalers, democrats!

      I do not insist, but as an option smile
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 4 February 2014 23: 30
      +2
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      Alcohol in Russia is the root of all misfortunes and defeats.

      There is ...
      But with a gradual increase in the quality of life, an understanding of the benefits of a lifestyle that is different from sound drinking is coming.
  • Cormorants
    Cormorants 4 February 2014 10: 34
    +2
    Good news!
  • tochila
    tochila 4 February 2014 10: 36
    +3
    Personal experience - they began to drink less! Drunkards in the district gradually reduced their numbers and moved to cemeteries slowly! And even Friday, the libertine at work is less and less noted! Even the action to reduce alcohol prices does not save the situation! But beer is really disgusting - I can’t name nothing nice to taste
  • kontrol
    kontrol 4 February 2014 10: 39
    +1
    we are constantly told that we drink a lot. that in the USSR, that in Russia. so this is all to put it mildly nonsense. yes, people drink, only they don’t reach the first place, it’s not clear whose part request propaganda. do not build illusions, here we are not the first
  • Ossetian.
    Ossetian. 4 February 2014 10: 45
    +11
    And I think that Russia and all our people have always been above those states that exalt themselves and their "great peoples". Just think about the fact that despite the 90s the country survived and jumped out of this whirlpool of devastation. And now imagine for a minute that those tests, or at least 1/3 of what our long-suffering country experienced, were passed to Europeans or Americans !!! ..... so I am more than sure that all of them would have been from the world map long ago disappeared. And Russia was, is and will be.
    And whatever statistics and observations of some experts would say, Russia has never been the way it is presented. There were times in our country that were vague and terrible, but the people who, by the will of God and fate, live in Russia, always passed the test, and after that became even more united !!!

    PS
    To all those who do not love us: -concile yourself with the fact that you are NOT WE and you are not destined and given to love your country !!!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 8 February 2014 21: 41
      +1
      Bravo, well done, great koment!
  • demon184
    demon184 4 February 2014 10: 46
    +1
    they didn’t drink less and bought state-owned vodka, many of my friends drink cheap vodka that is sold at 350 for 5 liters and how can they be taken into account?
    1. Walk
      Walk 4 February 2014 11: 20
      +3
      So, you are just out of luck with friends. In my environment, a few people really stopped drinking. Those. generally. Yes, and just drunk it began to meet much less.