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Maidan - the advanced anti-Russian front of the USA

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Maidan - the advanced anti-Russian front of the USA

Washington’s attention today is focused on events in Ukraine, where unrest against the president, who has postponed the signing of an agreement with the European Union, has been going on for more than a month now. However, the United States has long been preparing for such a turn, pumping astronomical sums into the Ukrainian opposition. Let's try to figure out why Washington needs Maidan.


From the very first days of existence, Americans do not leave “euromaidan” unattended. Here, Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for Europe in the Independence Square distributes cookies to Protestants, while Senator John McCain bent at the handshake of Vitali Klitschko, one of the leaders of the local opposition. Here, Ambassador Jeffrey Wright is broadcasting something about the indestructible friendship of nations, and this is the newly arrived State Department officials are examining magnets with the symbols of Maidan ...

Of course, in Washington there is no goal to turn Ukraine into a prosperous power. The Ukrainian crisis is seen here as another move in the big game, the goal of which is to prevent the alliance between Kiev and Moscow. After the collapse of the USSR, the political analyst Zbigniew Brzezinski formulated the most succinct fears of the American elite: “The main condition for the revival of Russia in the form of an empire is economic absorption and the subsequent political subordination of Ukraine.”

It is not surprising that Mr. Brzezinski, in a company with representatives of the foreign affairs agency Barack Obama, was invited to the US Senate, where a few days ago, at the initiative of the Foreign Affairs Committee, parliamentary hearings were held on Ukrainian events.

The speeches of Victoria Nuland and Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy Tom Melia contained familiar cliches. "Support the aspirations of all citizens of Ukraine ..."; “Ukraine is an important partner”; “The United States, together with the Ukrainian people, is fighting for human rights,” etc. Nevertheless, Nuland and Melia exposed the true fears of the White House, making the following conclusions:

First, the current events in Kiev affect the most important national interests of the United States.

Secondly, without Washington’s financial, moral, and other support, opposition to the “Yanukovich regime” will soon run out.

Third, Russia “acted in bad faith,” offering Ukraine a more attractive rescue plan than the EU and the IMF.
Fourthly, the Maidan speaks on behalf of the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians.

During the friendly debate, committee chairman Robert Menendez, senators Bob Corker, Chris Murphy and John McCain decided to include a number of Ukrainian officials on the Magnitsky list, as well as prepare a complaint to the WTO about Russia "on behalf of Ukraine."

“In no way has attention been paid to that circumstance, but is such a profound interference in the political life of a sovereign state at all appropriate for the US government?” - harshly commented on the hearings of the political magazine The American Conservative. - There was not a shadow of doubt expressed about the fact that the democratically elected cabinet became the object of American criticism. Also, the fact that at least half of the Ukrainians are Russophiles, not to mention the fact that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus have common roots, which date back to the 9th century, was not discussed. ”

However, the verbal solitaire of famous enemies of Russia remained a habitual shaking of the air, if not the given figures, which made the participants of the hearing raise their eyebrows.

Since the collapse of the USSR in December 1991, the United States has spent over $ 5 billion to help Ukraine. And $ 815 million of them went under the article "Financing democracy and exchange programs." “Much of these amounts are realized through work with non-governmental actors,” said Tom Melia. In addition, as it turned out, the Obama administration has spent $ 184 million on Ukrainian projects dedicated to "developing civil society and protecting human rights."

It is logical to assume that it is with this money that Euromaidan is walking today. A huge stage with lighting and acoustics, equipment of militants, hot food, thousands of beds, heating, medical equipment, high-speed Internet, warm clothes, etc. Finally, buses, on which militants leave to smash the administrations of other areas ... Obviously, even one day of Maidan costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.

In confirmation of this version on the Internet with reference to the Ukrainian special services, detailed financing schemes for Maidan have appeared. We quote: “Each leader of a group of active resistance was promised a monetary reward - for every active fighter for 200 US dollars per day for one member of the group and an additional 500 dollars if the group is more than 10 people. Coordinators - from 2000 US dollars per day of riots, provided that the controlled group performs direct attacking actions on law enforcement officers and representatives of state authorities. Funds were received at the US Embassy in Kiev. Active fighters and leaders received payments to their personal accounts. ” Information about the leadership of the militants, along with their bank account numbers, is also posted online.

The fact that behind the scenes of the Maidan-the global American interests, few doubt. “For Ukraine, the Agreement with the EU is a Trojan horse, under the guise of which a massive expansion of NATO’s military presence in the region is planned,” reveals US ambitious plans to Dennis Kucinich, a former congressman from Ohio. - The 1426-mile border with Russia will become a new front, while the potential of Ukraine will be used to resolve major regional disputes. Ukraine will inevitably be forced to spend a larger percentage of its GDP for military purposes, significantly reducing domestic spending. Thus, the true winners of the Maidan will not be the people of Ukraine, but Lockheed-Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing and other corporations of the American military-industrial complex. ”

“The economic interests of Ukraine lie next to Russia, and not within Europe, it’s quite obvious,” said Paul Craig Roberts, a member of the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. - The European Union wants Ukraine to join in, to plunder it as previously Latvia, Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland and Portugal. At the same time, the United States sees Ukraine as the site of the future deployment of a large number of new missile bases against Russia. ”

"The United States aims to propel wars by proxy as close as possible to the Russian borders," said Stephen Cohen, an honorary professor at universities in New York and Princeton.

So how long will Washington hide its involvement in the riots in Kiev? What are the next steps for the USA?

US Secretary of State John Kerry at the international economic forum in Davos made a very symptomatic statement. “The absence of excessive troop movements or the absence of threatening answers do not indicate a change in the US foreign policy strategy. We do not retreat from our policies to come to those regions where we see violence and increasing violations of human rights. ” In these words, the experts considered not only the Syrian, but also the Ukrainian background. Here it is worth mentioning the possibility of imposing US economic sanctions if Kiev does not turn towards the EU, and also recall the barely veiled threats made by the head of the Pentagon to the Ukrainian counterpart if the army intervenes in the conflict.

The White House website has already registered several petitions demanding to send American peacekeepers to Ukraine. Although this idea still has relatively few votes - a total of several thousand, who will undertake to completely eliminate the option of a humanitarian action with the participation of the American army in Ukraine?

Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria ... Washington, as a rule, uses a phased scenario of intervention. First, the country's leader is subject to international obstruction, then the country itself for the "sins" of the leader receives an economic embargo, at the same time, chaos is inspired in its territories, finally, through NATO, a proposal is made to introduce peacekeepers in order to end the suffering of citizens ...
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  1. sub307
    sub307 2 February 2014 06: 54
    +26
    "Washington typically uses a staged intervention scenario." Well, so they, naturally, are trying to solve the issue taking into account their "native" geopolitical interests. And what "scenario" does Russia have, who knows? So far nothing intelligible has been heard.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 2 February 2014 06: 57
      +45
      I think a dull defense before the end of the OLYMPIAD, so the strike on UKRAINE is chosen in time, we are well-awaited for further exacerbation of events with the opening of the OLYMPIAD in SOCHI.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 2 February 2014 07: 09
        +33
        Yanukovych gathered for the opening of the Olympiad! Of course, the Olympics event for the new Russia is significant and very important for breaking many stereotypes for Russia! But Putin understands that this event is coming and going! And Ukraine is important to us both as a current and future trading partner and as a technically important part MIC!

        Russia "acted in bad faith", offering Ukraine a more attractive rescue plan than the EU and the IMF.

        This is what I like in general, the hypocrisy and cynicism of the West simply do not have a chapel! Maybe it’s time for Berlin again! soldier
        1. domokl
          domokl 2 February 2014 07: 35
          +8
          Quote: Sid.74
          This is what I like in general, the hypocrisy and cynicism of the West simply do not have a chapel! Maybe it’s time for Berlin again!

          And by what forces? So far, we are not so strong as to confront the whole of Europe ... Not to mention the USA ...
          And nobody really needs power now ... the Olympics involved a lot of people. And nobody needs a hotbed of a sluggish war
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 2 February 2014 07: 55
            +6
            Quote: domokl
            What forces?

            It is rather a desire than an objective opportunity!

            Quote: Ruslan67
            Can better Bruno's spiral and anti-personnel mines along the perimeter of the border which is locked?

            Not a bad option, I think soon we will need all this, as the Americans of Afghanistan leave the most fun and begin!
            1. domokl
              domokl 2 February 2014 08: 02
              +11
              Quote: Sid.74
              Not a bad option, I think soon we will need all this, as the Americans of Afghanistan leave the most fun and begin!

              But what about the people? Peaceful people who are still hoping for Russia? Hope that they can, in case of victory maydanutyh leave us * Baba, old people, children?
              Some kind of savage option ..
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 2 February 2014 08: 13
                +10
                Quote: domokl
                But what about the people? Peaceful people who are still hoping for Russia? Hope that they can, in case of victory maydanutyh leave us * Baba, old people, children?


                From Afghanistan, God forbid?
                I did not say a word about Ukraine! But with the victory option of radical maydanutyh, Ukraine as a state will simply cease to exist!
                This will mean that another fascist state will appear in Europe!
                1. domokl
                  domokl 2 February 2014 09: 07
                  +3
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  From Afghanistan, God forbid?

                  I have little knowledge about this issue ... There are so many mines stuck in the border strip that even border guards don’t know exactly where and whose ... So there’s only crawling through the river ... there are mountains, there are corrupt border guards ... But no one pokes in the PCB ..
                  1. Sid.74
                    Sid.74 2 February 2014 09: 23
                    +6
                    Quote: domokl
                    But no one is in the PCB ..

                    This is certainly good, but now we need to defend ourselves from almost everything, there is a fear that the next step will be to induce chaos by the forces of the obvious and implicit US, in Asia, near the borders of China and the CU! the territory of Ukraine! How not cool, almost all the post-Soviet republics will be subjected to pressure from the US and the EU!
                  2. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 2 February 2014 10: 49
                    +14
                    The anti-people policy of the oligarchic government of Ukraine is the main reason for the Maidan. A state weakened by internal contradictions - social injustice, corruption, inequality of citizens before the law - is very subject to foreign influence. A few provocateurs are enough and the accumulated anger of the people will spill over into the street, and then you just need to direct it where you need to. The bad thing is that this movement is led by people who are deeply ... on the interests of the people.
                    1. gladiatorakz
                      gladiatorakz 2 February 2014 11: 58
                      +24
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      The anti-people policy of the oligarchic government of Ukraine is the main reason for the Maidan. A state weakened by internal contradictions - social injustice, corruption, inequality of citizens before the law - is very subject to foreign influence

                      Social conditions have been much improved in extreme years. Earned factories. And remember the conditions in Libya (it is unlikely that many countries in the world have such living conditions.) So the reason for the Maidan is far from this.
                      With the same success, this comment can be applied to the events on the Swamp.
                      Maidan - a consequence of the lack of intelligence services of Russia and Ukraine. And, accordingly, the successful work of the special services of NATO, the USA, the EU, and Turkey.
                      It is necessary to actively counteract the Maidan. First of all, information. Virtually no patriotic media. The information war is immediately lost, then the hot phase and prolonged pacification.
                      1. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 2 February 2014 13: 03
                        +4
                        Quote: gladiatorakz
                        With the same success, this comment can be applied to the events on the Swamp.

                        One to one! The swamp organizing committee is just a bunch ..... of one nationality!
                        Quote: gladiatorakz
                        Maidan - a consequence of the lack of intelligence services of Russia and Ukraine. And, accordingly, the successful work of the special services of NATO, the USA, the EU, and Turkey.

                        Special services provoking riots are based on the discontent of the masses with modern power. Dissatisfied people are a huge force. This force for Western intelligence is being prepared by the corrupt government itself, which protects the interests of the oligarchs, not the people.
                        If the government enjoys the support of the population, then the population will catch the provocateurs themselves and turn them over to the FSB. And to hell with such power you will pick up without declaring war.
                        And when there is a swindler in power, then the people will not protect such power.
                      2. gladiatorakz
                        gladiatorakz 2 February 2014 15: 12
                        +10
                        Quote: S_mirnov
                        Special services provoking riots are based on the discontent of the masses with modern power. Dissatisfied people are a huge force.

                        You get a logical failure. (I hope not a conscious distortion)
                        Intelligence agencies use dissatisfied. (name strange where they are not) And rightly so. The discontented masses, as you called them, are made by the enemy media. Well, what have the people to do with these masses? Too freely you are using such a concept.
                        The smooth transition from the masses to the people in two sentences is alarming.
                      3. sichevik
                        sichevik 2 February 2014 16: 11
                        +10
                        I completely agree with Gladitaroks. Do not confuse the masses with the people. Those 4% dissatisfied on the Maidan is not the whole Ukrainian people.
                        Personally, it just infuriates me when the Maydan trinity speaks on behalf of the Ukrainian People. Why, then, in Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Simferopol, Sevastopol did not support the Maydan?
                        Well, the fact that the SBU was inactive is visible from all sides.
                      4. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 2 February 2014 20: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: sichevik
                        Those 4% dissatisfied on the Maidan is not the whole Ukrainian people.

                        Undoubtedly! But then the question arises, where is the people themselves ?? What do the remaining 96% of citizens do? Just sit home? Or do they all care for these clown games? Or are they scribbling their comments on Facebook? Where are the actions of the patriots ??
                        Quote: sichevik
                        Personally, it just infuriates me when the Maydan trinity speaks on behalf of the Ukrainian People.

                        Well, what did you do togg to indicate your civic position ... wrote comments in the virtual space, let off steam?
                      5. 31231
                        31231 2 February 2014 20: 57
                        +7
                        Undoubtedly! But then the question arises, where is the people themselves ?? What do the remaining 96% of citizens do? Just sit home? Or do they all care for these clown games? Or are they scribbling their comments on Facebook? Where are the actions of the patriots ??


                        Smirnov, I understand you are a busy person, you have enough time for comments only here. But you'd better break away from the topvar for a couple of days and walk around the sites of Zaporozhye, Kiev, Dnepropetrovsk, Krivoy Rog, Nikolaev, Sumy. Then you will understand what people think in the "disputed" regions.
                        And the east and south of Bendery immediately besieged and put in place.
                      6. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 2 February 2014 21: 36
                        -5
                        Quote: 31231
                        Smirnov, I understand that you are a busy person, you have enough time for comments only here. But you better come off for a couple of days from the topvar and go to the sites of Zaporizhia, Kiev, Dnepropetrovsk, Krivoy Rog, Nikolaev, Sumy.

                        Pancake! I would love to climb the sites and learn how people breathe in the regions of Ukraine! But here in Russia - Colonialism! To feed a family, you have to work 6-7 days a week (Stalin wanted to introduce a 4-day working week, and an 8-day GDP supporter wink ) And in spite of the assurances of some figures, the US State Department does not pay me anything, and even the domestic media do not pay anything, so I do it in time.
                        Quote: 31231
                        And the east and south of Bendery immediately besieged and put in place.

                        That is HEALTHY! Well done, only our media stuffed Russians with maydanuts, and the people are waving, and alternative sources of information must be sought independently. And the majority of the population does not have enough time to search for truthful information or simply desire, because they have already despaired. Therefore, if you know where the truth is written - give a link, it takes a little time, I do it myself, but the sense immediately becomes more!
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                    3. sichevik
                      sichevik 2 February 2014 22: 29
                      +1
                      I will answer your question with a question. And what have you done to indicate YOUR POSITION?
                    4. S_mirnov
                      S_mirnov 2 February 2014 22: 38
                      0
                      Quote: sichevik
                      I will answer your question with a question. And what have you done to indicate YOUR POSITION?

                      Duc, it is you who bring me under the article "extremism" wink
                      Everything except komenty is extremism! For this, and in the internet you can write Czechosha so that they do not go out onto the streets! So to speak, steam was released in the virtual space ...
                    5. Genry
                      Genry 3 February 2014 00: 49
                      +1
                      For you, too, there is an opportunity to express your citizenship.
                      You think the rebellion in Ukraine is only within it. It is happening in Russia.
                2. AVV
                  AVV 3 February 2014 09: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Those 4% dissatisfied on the Maidan is not the whole Ukrainian people.

                  These are those 4% who do not want to work in factories, in the field, they came to cut American dough, but they will buzz for free anywhere and anytime !!! And the interests of the rest of the people are not interested in them !!! And America is interfering everywhere where you can fish in troubled waters, the Ukrainian people are not interested in them all the more! She needs to sell her weapons, and dollars all over the world !!!
            2. skeptic
              skeptic 2 February 2014 16: 29
              +4
              Quote: gladiatorakz
              The discontented masses, as you called them, are made by the enemy media. Well, what have the people to do with these masses? Too freely you are using such a concept.
              The smooth transition from the masses to the people in two sentences is alarming.


              Alarms your translation of the topic. Yes, the media can provide appropriate accents that can lead to an explosion. But first of all, thieves, large and small, are the main irritants. Shameless robbery and arrogance with the stolen wealth, against the background of an increasingly impoverished population - this is the main explosive evil. All these greedy people know the work of their own hands very well, and therefore they dig holes abroad. Their homeland is where the money lies. It was this scum that the Americans diligently cultivated in our country, after the treacherous surrender to the marked USSR, as dynamite under Russia. And the media is just like one of the weapons against us. The more terrible enemy is the one that destroys the industry, without the possibility of recovery. A thief cannot become a patriotic industrialist. Their main credo is passive income, which can also be earned abroad. In 20 years of genocide, whole herds of "rentiers" were born. Having sold off the equipment and everything that can be pushed, they hand over the empty workshops for warehouses. With a critical mass of negativity created, the media work like the most banal detonators. A legally elected government can extinguish a flaring fire, very simply. Send all the thieves where they should be. Make their actions transparent and foreign vermin will get sick of swallowing dust in wet weather.
              Like that. And on the other - the road to nowhere.
            3. gladiatorakz
              gladiatorakz 2 February 2014 17: 56
              +6
              Quote: skeptic
              Disturbing your translation of the topic. Yes, the media can highlight the accents that could lead to an explosion.

              Ha. Ask who the true owners of TV channels broadcast in the country are. Any information can be served in a different sauce. The person who constantly pours negativity from the tap is immersed in the negative. Constantly bad mood, well-being, robot ability, communicative ability, health is deteriorating. And this is for ALL the people !!! Hence a large percent. alcoholism, drug addiction and domestic crimes.
              You can talk on this topic for a long time, but I think you yourself will realize that this is not a fig accents.
              The thieves. A thief should sit in jail. Only in what mysterious way is Maidan connected with the fight against thieves? It’s like, we need to bring out cockroaches at home, and we hammer out the walls and windows with a hammer.
              Regarding how power can easily change everything. There is a tactic and strategy. So any process must be watched in dynamics. Much has changed and much has changed. There is no toggle switch Ukraine-Germany (dr. Any your standard of the country) In order to change fundamentally need years. So that NEW people will be brought up according to the NEW. Otherwise, the same eggs in profile.
              There are many shortcomings in my country. One thing is clear that not one of them will solve the Maidan.
              Maidan is a litmus test of a meager outlook, venality, deceit, bad manners and lack of principles.
            4. skeptic
              skeptic 2 February 2014 19: 30
              +1
              Quote: gladiatorakz
              The thieves. A thief should sit in jail. Only in what mysterious way is Maidan connected with the fight against thieves? It’s like, we need to bring out cockroaches at home, and we hammer out the walls and windows with a hammer.


              Well, of course - thieves have nothing to do with it. Neither those who plundered industry, nor those who are fascinated by corruption. And the television and radio companies, Santa Claus presented them to their owners, and even got them honestly, by inheritance (earned by overwork, by many generations of their ancestors). And the Maidan, for many zapadentsev - is the same sabotka, it is not by chance that a lot of bucks of a new type appeared in Kiev exchangers. It is unlikely that they (really) perceive the whole tragedy of their actions, for Ukraine.
              And so, okay, only the media are to blame for their negativity. Especially if "Berkut" is perceived as notorious cockroaches. And those who finance your Eurobedlam are white, affectionate and fluffy.
            5. gladiatorakz
              gladiatorakz 2 February 2014 20: 26
              +4
              Quote: skeptic
              And those who finance your euro-bed are white, affectionate and fluffy.

              And these are the owners of the media. The same TV ary.
              And thieves are to blame for theft. And must be punished. No need to juggle.
            6. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 2 February 2014 23: 17
              0
              Quote: gladiatorakz
              And thieves are to blame for theft. And must be punished.

              "A thief should sit in jail!" Gleb Zhiglov. Weiner brothers. Classic!
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    3. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 2 February 2014 19: 39
      0
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      Intelligence agencies use dissatisfied. (name strange where they are not)

      I had in mind the country's population dissatisfied with the situation, not 5-10%, but the discontent of the masses on a national scale.
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      The disaffected masses, as you call them, are made by the enemy media.

      No, the government of their own country makes them "dissatisfied masses", people are dissatisfied with their life in this particular country, and the state dictates the rules of life to them!
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      Well, what have the people to do with these masses?

      And these masses are the people! As soon as their percentage exceeds 50% of politically active citizens of the country, they automatically become the Peoples of this country.
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      The smooth transition from the masses to the people in two sentences is alarming.

      I believe that the country (Russia) should be ruled by the people, the people are most politically active citizens of our country! What is not clear - write, I will explain!
    4. gladiatorakz
      gladiatorakz 2 February 2014 20: 20
      +3
      Quote: S_mirnov
      I had in mind the country's population dissatisfied with the situation, not 5-10%, but the discontent of the masses on a national scale.

      How many? How to count it? You can have your own estimates or get them from the media. Again, the reasoning of the watchmen and directors is different, due to the different living standards. And the social circle is also different.
      No, the government of their own country makes them "dissatisfied masses", people are dissatisfied with their life in this particular country, and the state dictates the rules of life to them!
      If you listen to the discontent of these masses, it turns out that they themselves are to blame for the problems of their life in 80%. It's easier to blame someone than yourself. 15% are being solved or should be solved locally. Mayor, deputy, public, Ministry of Internal Affairs, SBU, etc. Well, the remaining 5% are really disadvantages of the state.
      And these masses are the people! As soon as their percentage exceeds 50% of politically active citizens of the country, they automatically become the Peoples of this country.
      Maidan is more like the vomit of the people. )))) Loafers and parasites, zaprodantsi and duped people. And of course, the active core of the instigators. These are for denyuzhku or for service. And still they are in the worst case 1%. We are 45 million. The fact that they scream everywhere in the name of the People does not make them the People.
      I believe that the country (Russia) should be governed by the People, the People are the majority of politically active citizens of our country! What is not clear - write, I will explain!
      Democracy is possible only under Kopnaya Pravo (among the Cossacks, the Circle). I am a supporter of this particular system. But you can't go over instantly. Therefore, there will be many intermediate steps. Changes in the world order, etc.
      I don't understand how the magnet works. Will you explain? #: -)))
    5. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 2 February 2014 21: 24
      -3
      Since you are quoting me, take it even in "quotes", otherwise it is difficult to read. Another option is to highlight a part of my comment and press the "quote" button. It didn't hit me right away either wink
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      If you listen to the discontent of these masses, it will turn out that they themselves are to blame for the problems of their lives in 80%. It's easier to blame someone than yourself. 15% are solved or should be resolved locally. Mayor, deputy, public, Ministry of Internal Affairs, SBU, etc. Well, the remaining 5% are really disadvantages of the state.

      I was talking about the politically active masses, capable of tearing women ... from their chairs and taking to the streets, only they must be taken into account! The rest of the ballast, pseudo-fenders who want a lot, but are not able to do anything, there are a lot of them!
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      Maidan is more like the vomit of the people. )))) Loafers and parasites, zaprodantsi and duped people. And of course, the active core of the instigators. These are for denyuzhku or for service. And still they are in the worst case 1%. We are 45 million.

      The question arises, where are these 45 million on the streets? Why are there 1% of maydanutyh and a little Golden eagle on the streets, the rest do not care about their homeland? Or those who do not care do not want to support thieves in power?
      Explain, I'm smart, I understand! hi
    6. gladiatorakz
      gladiatorakz 2 February 2014 22: 22
      +4
      Quote: S_mirnov
      Since you are quoting me, take it even in "quotes", otherwise it is difficult to read. Another option is to highlight a part of my comment and press the "quote" button. It didn't hit me right away either

      On the tablet, it’s hard to get into these buttons.
      Quote: S_mirnov
      I was talking about the politically active masses, capable of tearing women ... from their chairs and taking to the streets, only they must be taken into account! The rest of the ballast, pseudo-fenders who want a lot, but are not able to do anything, there are a lot of them!

      For me, the grandmother at the entrance is a larger citizen than the maydaunas.
      Any nation is inert. People live, work, take care of families. So far, the Ministry of Internal Affairs can handle it. But in some cities, self-defense units have already been created. While there is a bargain, why should the People give up their affairs and take to the streets like loafers?
    7. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 2 February 2014 22: 34
      -1
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      On the tablet, it’s hard to get into these buttons.

      But you did it, congratulations!
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      For me, the grandmother at the entrance is a larger citizen than the maydaunas.

      Grandparents are sacred, they generally still remember how to kill enemies!
      Quote: gladiatorakz
      While there is a bargaining, why should the People abandon their affairs and take to the streets like idlers?

      I don’t understand, and who is trading with whom? In my opinion, when the homeland is in danger, it’s not up to bargaining. I do not understand.
    8. gladiatorakz
      gladiatorakz 2 February 2014 23: 55
      +2
      Quote: S_mirnov
      I don’t understand, and who is trading with whom?

      At the level of subjects Ukraine, Russia, USA, EU, Germany, Canada, Turkey, NATO. Of the main participants. Until the New Year, bargaining was sluggish, everyone was trading with everyone. Now it’s a matter of choosing a path and things have become more brisk.
      In addition to countries and organizations, as legal entities, bargaining takes place within them between groups, parties, movements.
      Quote: S_mirnov
      In my opinion, when the homeland is in danger, it’s not up to bargaining. I do not understand

      Oh, how we love to speak with slogans !!!!!)))))) I will open the secret Homeland in danger CONSTANT !!! The subject of bargaining is just the components of the security of the motherland. Time, forces and means, media opportunities (breaking through the information blockade), allies, etc.
  • 31231
    31231 2 February 2014 12: 26
    +9
    The anti-people policy of the oligarchic government of Ukraine is the main reason for the Maidan.

    Smirnov, you do not chant your communist manuals there at least literally. The opposition, which according to its assurances represents the people, feeds on Petit Poroshenko and the West. I hope you find who he is.
    And the Communist Party is the other way around for peace and power. Ask Elena over there.
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 2 February 2014 13: 09
      -4
      Quote: 31231
      Smirnov, you are there your Communist manuals that at least do not chant literally.


      Do not rank me as your CPU. And in order to understand for whom yours, and our government, is trying, you don’t have to be a communist at all! It’s enough just to be able to drop noodles from our ears, which we hang heavily on both sides.
      Quote: 31231
      The opposition, which according to its assurances represents the people, feeds on Petit Poroshenko and the West. I hope you find who he is.

      We have enough of our scum here, it’s also a pity to look for information about yours too - time is a pity, sorry if that ... hi
    2. 31231
      31231 2 February 2014 15: 17
      +4
      We have enough of our scum here, it’s also a pity to look for information about yours too - time is a pity, sorry if that ...


      Smirnov did not teach you to use Google or Yandex? There is not much time. But chatting is more or less justified.
    3. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 2 February 2014 19: 29
      0
      Quote: 31231
      Smirnov did not teach you to use Google or Yandex?

      yes, no problem!
      Quote: 31231
      There’s not much time

      The most valuable thing we have is this time. During our life, you can do a lot of right things, for which people will thank you later.
      If I prove my point of view, then I immediately give links to certain materials, and look for the phrase yourself and prove my opinion to yourself, I consider disrespectful to the opponent. I won't act like that!
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 2 February 2014 13: 49
    +21
    Quote: 31231
    I hope you find out who he is.
    And the Communist Party is the other way around for peace and power. Ask Elena over there.


    Oligarchs are therefore called oligarchs and not big businessmen or monopolists, because REAL POWER is DIRECTLY concentrated in their hands, in the hands of a relatively small group of citizens it serves their personal and group interests, and not the interests of all citizens. In other words, power and capital are concentrated in the same hands. Oligarchs are members of an oligarchy and can either to be members of the government themselves, or to exert a decisive influence on its formation and decision-making in their personal and group interests..
    So, without exception, all political parties, foundations, movements, state structures, including communists and nationalists, all of them are formed and controlled through their representatives by these citizens-oligarchs. As it was in Russia in the 90s during the period of "seven bankers". And all these Maidans and revolutions are basically the essence of the intra-oligarchic struggle for influence and power. And then the discontent of the people is exploited, ethnic and religious contradictions, cultural and historical, the West gets in with its geopolitical interests and other things. Western anti-Russian project of Ukrainization and banderization of Ukraine,for the sake of which the overseas GLOBAL OLIGARCHS allow the Ukrainians to rob the country. While they are in line with the "general line of the world business elite", a kind of business police and scientific compradors.
    Therefore, having changed one corrupt government of Yanukovych, who with rude methods began to "squeeze" non-Slavic oligarchs from the most tasty morsels, for the other oligarchs closely connected with Israel and the United States, nothing will change for the people, neither joining the EU nor the "Marshal's plans" to rescue Ukrainian oligopoly will give nothing but the political crisis. new Maidana.chaos and riots. All this is sad, here on one of the forums Ukrainian patriots were very offended at me for what I called today's Ukraine a monkey. How else? If the baboon Yanukovych took away all the bananas and now two stupid hamadryas and one monkey with glasses are trying to take these bananas away from him, and Mowgli are jumping on the Maidan, accusing the evil Finno-Ugric red dogs instead of their own herd of baboons who captured them and are making them work. = Boa Kaa silently watches over the Kremlin walls at all this disgrace in anticipation of a glorious hunt. Here's a Banderlogy that turns out smile
  • Tersky
    Tersky 2 February 2014 13: 57
    +11
    Quote: Ascetic
    members of the oligarchy can either be members of the government themselves or have a decisive influence on its formation and decision-making in their personal and group interests ..

    Which actually finds more and more confirmations in the latest news comments:It became clear who financed the riots and paid for the extremist shares of the Right Sector on December 1 at Bankova and January 19 at Grushevsky. As an SBU source said on condition of anonymity, the agency found that it sponsored a military confrontation Petro Poroshenko.
    “As a result of the incident investigation, we were able to track the financial flows that came in payment for extremist actions on the Maidan. It is possible that this money was used to pay for the services of the Right Sector militants who stormed the presidential administration on December 1, as well as the bloody confrontation with the Golden Eagle fighters on January 19 on Grushevsky Street. According to our data, the lion's share of the funds came from Petro Poroshenko, ”the source said.
    "Pulse of Kiev" Sun, 2.02.14 13:39 Stanislav, hi !
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 2 February 2014 14: 33
    -2
    An extremely sensible comment! only here the ending in my opinion will be more correct.
    Quote: Ascetic
    And from = behind the Kremlin walls, Boa Kaa silently watches all this disgrace in anticipation of a glorious hunt.

    I think the old boa constrictor Kaa is watching somewhere in his villa on the ocean wink And behind the Kremlin walls, the same Banderlogists are scurrying around as in Ukraine - ready to meekly fulfill the will of their master, regardless of their rank.
    For an independent political figure can be a politician who has built his political career himself! And when politics is taken out of a snuffbox like a devil and introduced to the country on TV, then what kind of independence can we talk about?
    So we will not soon find out who the Boa Kaa is.
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 2 February 2014 15: 45
    +14
    Quote: S_mirnov
    I think the old boa constrictor Kaa is watching somewhere in his villa on the ocean


    In Russia there indirect external control, through economic and financial levers, what we call a conditionally liberal system and Fedorov occupation, In Ukraine direct external controlThe West plays the main role, it determines the events, and the oligarchy is already being built for it. They are compradors, oligarchic capital in Ukraine is pure comprador. In our country, Putin has built a certain corporation "Russia" by creating state monopolies in the main export-raw material sector, displacing compradors from them. Some analogue of the East India Company, with profit centers and, most importantly, financial regulators are located somewhere with these boas from overseas villas. They do not like the fact that Putin is too concentrated in his hands, completely privatized the state and the main sources of income in his hands by eliminating compradors. It became impossible in Russia to pursue a policy of direct external control. Therefore, there are attempts to shake it from within, swamp, Islamist, nationalist and other advances are sponsored from one pocket. Now they are picking up through Ukraine, perhaps there will be an option with kindling several regional military conflicts at once along the perimeter of the borders. A dollar vacuum cleaner is turned on, some sanctions may be because any direct military clash is fraught, although they are building manic plans for centric wars and disarming strikes. Until Putin on the main issues of indirect external control has not crossed the line beyond which a tough scenario of pressure awaits us. For this we need a constitutional reform and, most importantly, a revision of the results of privatization, nationalization of the Central Bank and the rejection of the dollar financial system. Putin is not ready for this and here is why he ready to disagree. Some say that he is a henchman of the backstage and acts on orders from across the ocean. Others that he is the same comprador. Destroys the economy and people, you need to overthrow him and bring to power "healthy forces" (in fact, the same compradors), others that Putin with its privatized corporation "Russia" wants to take the place of a real player, pushing these guys out. In general, everyone knows that society is unfair. They know what to do. Only how, except for the revolution according to the Ukrainian scenario, no one offers anything. Honest elections and democratic change of power do not count because this is a trick for suckers and common people. Only if our overseas friends unleash our war the people will truly unite against an external enemy and on this wave leaders may appear (because agents and demagogues will flee), a political structure will be formed that will restore the dictatorship of justice in Russia, I do not see any other options at the moment. all the rest lead to the collapse of the state and defeat.
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 2 February 2014 19: 19
    +1
    Quote: Ascetic
    a political structure will be formed that will restore the dictatorship of justice in Russia, I do not see any other options at the moment. All others lead to the collapse of the state and defeat.

    You are all right, but I know for sure that building a house on a rotten foundation (a corrupt state with a Western system of values) is a hopeless business. No matter how hard you try, it will collapse, later or earlier - it doesn't matter.
  • aksakal
    aksakal 3 February 2014 09: 22
    +1
    Quote: S_mirnov
    You are all right, but I know for sure that building a house on a rotten foundation (a corrupt state with a Western system of values) is a hopeless business. No matter how hard you try, it will collapse, later or earlier - it doesn't matter

    - everywhere and always the foundation of the state is the people themselves, its memes in the form of traditions, mentality, spirit, customs and habits. And then, why are you talking - this is just a superstructure, in this case - alien, someone without permission erected over the people, its memes in the form of traditions, mentality, spirit, customs and habits, a superstructure that is already rejected by the people. We are already observing dangerous inflammatory processes (when there is rejection, we see pus, fever and others). Dear Axet, just post about the need to demolish this add-on, but for some reason you pass it off as a foundation. The state cannot be the foundation, because the state creates the people. The state is always just a superstructure. For example, during the 1917 revolution one state was demolished and another was built. It would seem that everything has changed, ideology, spirit, and so on. In fact, practically nothing has changed in the main things. For example, the form of colonization (do not cling to the terms here) by the Russians of the adjacent territories did not undergo any changes at all - just as the autochthonous population was not destroyed under Tsarist Russia, it was not exterminated under the USSR.
    Turn over your worldview pyramid, everything is upside down.
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 2 February 2014 15: 54
    +12
    Quote: S_mirnov
    And when politics is taken out of a snuffbox like a devil and introduced to the country on TV, then what kind of independence can we talk about?

    Don't you think that the KGB (or what was left of it at that time) took part in promoting Putin as president? And that Putin was a member of this Committee, and I think he stayed with him. It was necessary to save the country, so there were people who were rooting for their homeland. Yeltsin would not have given up power just like that, nor would any Berezovskys have persuaded him to do so.
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 2 February 2014 21: 48
    -2
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Don't you think that the KGB (or what was left of it at that time) took part in promoting Putin as president?

    State Security Committee - mission and purpose of existence - protection of the state from external and hidden internal enemies, EVERYTHING!
    If the state (USSR) was destroyed, then the KGB had to be destroyed first! No options, otherwise nothing!
    We draw a conclusion - at the time of the destruction of the USSR, the KGB as a structure protecting the state was destroyed. Because there was no physical destruction (murder of all employees) of the KGB, which means that the positions of leadership were taken by traitors to their country.
    What do you expect from traitors?
    Another argument - the USSR lost the war to the West, Perestroika, Gorbachev, the destruction of the country, Yeltsin, Chubbais, the US protectorate. To get out of the control of the country's enemies, active actions are needed (rebellion, war, revolution), otherwise the victors will not get off the defeated. Have you seen the battle for the independence of Russia ???
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 3 February 2014 09: 34
    +2
    Quote: S_mirnov
    What do you expect from traitors?

    Are you saying that everyone in the KGB was traitors? This is too much. The Communist Party was also ruined under Yeltsin, but it lives and is well. The fact that the leading positions in the KGB were taken by traitors does not mean that there were also traitors below. And to get out of the control of the country's enemies, it is not all at once, why do we need more shocks? The water wears away the stone, and in our country there will be order quietly. "The quieter you go, the further you'll get". Enough already revolutions.
  • morpex
    morpex 2 February 2014 16: 35
    +7
    Quote: S_mirnov
    The anti-people policy of the oligarchic government of Ukraine is the main reason for the Maidan.

    I confirm! Here is the entrance to the Maidan. Read what is written.

    “Understand us. Zadolbalo! ”- a large banner with such text hangs on one of the central barricades of the Kiev Maidan. Protesters say it was made and hanged by Kiev businessmen. Even without investigative journalism, they can draw their conclusions. Extortion, raiding, arbitrariness of officials and law enforcement officers - this is all entrepreneurial life in Ukraine for those who are not members of the presidential Family and do not serve its interests. However, Viktor Yanukovych, probably, will not be able to understand that people go against him not because they are paid. But because they steal.
  • tellurium
    tellurium 2 February 2014 19: 56
    +4
    The main parable is the creation of a "belt of instability" along the perimeter of Russia by the United States. For this, subversive information technologies are used and a "fifth column" is created for the money of the United States, which is brought out into the street at the right time. And the ideal moment is chosen - the Olympics in Russia. And one more moment-instability in the center of Europe and possibly for a long time. And where the capital will run. It is clear that in the United States.
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 2 February 2014 23: 00
      0
      Quote: tellurium
      The main parable is the creation of a "belt of instability" along the perimeter of Russia by the United States. For this, subversive information technologies are used and a "fifth column" is being created for the money of the United States.

      The fifth column will be neutralized by the citizens of the Russian Federation if the citizens support the government!
      Quote: tellurium
      And the moment was chosen ideal - the Olympics in Russia.

      And what? like now all the FSB and ministers are sitting in the stands and watching limpiYada?
      Quote: tellurium
      And where the capital will run. It is clear that in the United States.

      Why will they run? They have long been fleeing Russia to the United States and other warmer countries. They opened the borders, made the ruble convertible, so what else can you expect? If it is not clear why this is so, read the book by A. Parshev "Why Russia is not America"
  • muhomor
    muhomor 2 February 2014 11: 23
    +9
    Russia has no right to allow the formation of a fascist state on its border. And no Olympiad can be an excuse. But support for Yanukovych is a rotten bazaar. The President has lost popularity among the population. The Russian Federation has a small choice - by all means to stabilize (freeze) the political state before the elections. And by the time of the elections to issue a new adequate (pro-Russian) leader.
    1. Slavapom
      Slavapom 2 February 2014 12: 57
      +4
      as for the pro-Russian leader, that is, in Ukraine N. Vitrenko - this woman is more than persistent in talking about Ukraine moving towards Russia.
      as for politics, or rather, the actions of the Russian leadership in the current circumstances, don’t even go to the grandmother, there will be no sharp movements in the next 3 (weeks), but we'll see after the Olympics.
      PySy at the end of 2013 GDP turned to Russian business about deoffshorization, as it seems to me, it was a kind of hint to oligarchs who want to save capital in case of sharp foreign policy actions of Russia. Again, this is only my opinion, but what the hell is not joking.
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    3. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 2 February 2014 14: 38
      -4
      Quote: muhomor
      Russia has no right to allow the formation of a fascist state on its border.

      So already allowed! Here you go, why not the revival of fascism? So the official authorities are silent.
      "In the Baltics, they are again at war with the monuments of the Soviet era. For example, the Minister of Defense of Latvia, Artis Pabriks, expressed the idea of ​​demolishing the monument to the soldiers who liberated Riga," the Latvian politician said in an interview with the Latvian newspaper NRA. What is this monument erected in memory of Soviet soldiers who died in the years of the Great Patriotic War, so disliked the minister? According to him, most of all he is annoyed by the annual pilgrimage of people to the monument on Victory Day. In particular, Pabriks said:

      “The ninth of May - in the form in which this event takes place in Riga and Latvia - also hurts me. The goal of most of the participants in this event is not at all a desire to pay tribute to the victims of World War II, but to keep us in the geopolitical sphere that ceased to exist 20 years ago ... Monuments are divided into two groups. The first is those monuments under which someone is buried, and the second is political symbols. The Liberators Monument is a political symbol. And this monument does not represent our state. He is not important to us from a moral point of view. I do not want this monument to be used to confront our state ... "."
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 2 February 2014 21: 52
        0
        I do not understand minus, without driving counter arguments! I never do that myself. I express my contempt for these people! stop
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 3 February 2014 15: 34
          0
          Quote: S_mirnov
          I do not understand minus, without driving counter arguments!

          - Well, if you don't say anything sensible, there is nothing to put pluses. Screaming will not help matters, alas. Is there any sense in counter-arguing screams? Only time to lose, it is better to argue with smart people - and that’s good. In any case, thanks for the contempt, from your lips this is the best compliment for me.
  • skeptic
    skeptic 2 February 2014 15: 34
    +5
    Quote: Sid.74
    This will mean that another fascist state will appear in Europe!


    This will mean that a very dangerous bridgehead will appear on the border of Russia, a blockade of the Black Sea Fleet, a large pile of Russian-speaking terrorists with a Slavic appearance.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 2 February 2014 15: 42
      +2
      Quote: skeptic
      This will mean that a very dangerous bridgehead will appear on the border of Russia, a blockade of the Black Sea Fleet, a large pile of Russian-speaking terrorists with a Slavic appearance.


      Honestly, if you don’t name it, a destroyer, a strangler, a fascist, a terrorist! It’s equally bad! But what’s interesting is that the Maidan itself killed an Armenian and a Belarusian!
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 2 February 2014 15: 30
    +2
    Quote: domokl
    But what about people? Peaceful people who still rely on Russia?



    Here already such "peaceful" begin to build their Napoleonic plans.
    It's time to start Operation Sobering in the Outhouse
  • blizart
    blizart 2 February 2014 17: 23
    +8
    We, the Army of Kazakhstan, are already preparing for the "fun", pulling up to the southern borders, deploying into regiments and brigades, torturing ourselves with more frequent march throws and night firing (we go into the night). Thank you to Russia for the five S-300PM divisions, of course, but we are waiting for you all the time yourself. From the age of five we will do it somehow, and then ... inshala as they say
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  • aksakal
    aksakal 3 February 2014 09: 08
    0
    Quote: domokl
    So far, we are not strong enough to resist the whole of Europe ... Not to mention the United States ... Yes, and no one really needs military action now ... The Olympics involved a lot of people. needed

    - life experience tells me - when you postpone the solution of crucial issues "because of unpreparedness", then you will NEVER SOLVE this important question, but you will always prepare for its solution and never prepare, because circumstances change (and they change quickly and unexpectedly, they don't warn you, you bastards!) and thus the results of your previous preparation for this "epoch-making" decision are leveled.
    Experience tells me - it is necessary to highlight the most important moments for solving this paramount issue, to solve them as POSSIBILITY and immediately take up what was conceived - more secondary issues have to be solved in parallel with the solution of your "paramount" issue. Simply put, the main thing here is to get involved, and then the war plan will show.
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 2 February 2014 07: 41
    +12
    Quote: Sid.74
    Maybe it's time to go back to Berlin! soldier

    Are you few Tajiks? Do you want to add Turks and Romanians? And along the railway of the Poles with boiled potatoes? Maybe Bruno's spiral and anti-personnel mines along the perimeter of the border that is locked is better? what
  • Corsair
    Corsair 2 February 2014 07: 59
    +16
    Quote: Sid.74
    And Ukraine is important to us both as the current and future trading partner and as a technically important part of the military-industrial complex!
    Yes, from which "side" do not look at her - she is OUR BLOOD.
  • zzz
    zzz 2 February 2014 10: 43
    +13
    Quote: Sid.74
    This is what I really like, the hypocrisy and cynicism of the West simply has no chapel! Maybe it's time to go back to Berlin! soldier


    Of course, I am far from special, but if someone understands this, then maybe they will somehow explain this option. Our hackers seem to be the most advanced and persistent, young people are sooo advanced in this regard. Is it possible to connect them? After all, you can do anything you want with their help. All correspondence, contracts, accounts can be put in a different direction! Someone may argue that it is illegal. Yes, I agree! Is it legal that everything that the United States, Europe, the Ukrainian oligarchs, who also unfasten for this revolution, are doing? And now there is a question again about the war with Russia, so why the hell is there almond? In war, all means are good. Yes, and there will be less blood. Well, the pockets empty of the Yanukovych and Poroshenko, and the sponsors., Etc. And hackers are hackers, so that they know how to cover up traces, from which pocket, to which one it will flow. It's so ... just thought ... maybe there is such an option?
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 2 February 2014 10: 53
      +6
      Quote: zzz
      Our hackers seem to be the most advanced and stubborn, the youth are sooo advanced in this regard. Is it possible to connect them?

      I think no one will explain this, for this mystery is behind seven seals!
      But just think about why Snowden was not interested in our company! Intelligence works, and whether or not to strike a blow is another question! I think everything has its time and place! yes
      1. zzz
        zzz 2 February 2014 11: 19
        +2
        Quote: Sid.74
        I think everything has its time and place! yes


        Thank you!
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 2 February 2014 12: 23
    +2
    Quote: Sid.74
    This is what I like in general, the hypocrisy and cynicism of the West simply do not have a chapel! Maybe it’s time for Berlin again!


    Then to Washington. What trifle something?
  • Hitlerkaput
    Hitlerkaput 2 February 2014 12: 38
    +2
    Taki beg ...
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 2 February 2014 13: 06
      +2
      Quote: Semen Semenych
      Then to Washington. What trifle something?

      Do not rush your time to everything laughing
  • Fin
    Fin 2 February 2014 14: 51
    +4
    Russia "acted in bad faith", offering Ukraine a more attractive rescue plan than the EU and the IMF.

    Either T-34 tanks are dishonest, or here it is dishonest. We got used to everything according to theirs. Need to break. The only concern is the weakness of our industry and army. In 2008, such a chance was to modernize the entire military-industrial complex, the west, japa, any equipment would be sold. Everything was already working at full capacity, and we would send exceptional ones. Tits were crumpled, they threw loot at banks, Deripasok and other great managers. Matured ?! Only it would not be too late.
  • m.metis2011
    m.metis2011 2 February 2014 16: 29
    +3
    SID.74 Unfortunately and to our great pleasure, it will happen that we have to kick their ass again. After all, they have it there (in the ass) constantly itching ... And only a good spanking relieves their suffering))))))
  • Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 2 February 2014 17: 35
    +5
    This is what I like in general, the hypocrisy and cynicism of the West simply do not have a chapel! Maybe it’s time for Berlin again!
    Personally, I am only FOR, though I am still young, only 31 years old, as they say life is just beginning, and what else to do, wait for my three-year-old son to grow up, that he should disentangle everything, and by that time he would observe everything that is weak from the outside ? For example, I feel ashamed, so it's better to die now, but give the children a chance.
  • wow
    wow 2 February 2014 20: 21
    +3
    I think it's time and not only to Berlin, but further ...! soldier
  • _Forgiven_
    _Forgiven_ 2 February 2014 20: 59
    +4
    No, we have already been there :) We have not been to Washington and Brussels! Better to visit these cities and disassemble them by stones. And the best thing is to get in there and provoke people to fight for their rights, bring them weapons and so on ... Oh, and I almost forgot - a huge portrait of Bandera for a snack)
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 2 February 2014 07: 48
    +6
    It seems that the main dirty tricks are yet to come.
  • smel
    smel 2 February 2014 09: 29
    +5
    With the Olympics, much comes. It was Georgia. Now here is Ukraine. Apparently in years through 6 to the summer 2020 of the year there will be still serious problems. Getting ready. And we hope that the 2020 rearmament program will be in time
  • 120352
    120352 2 February 2014 11: 52
    +8
    Yes, Ukrainian events are a pre-Olympic event of the US special services, as well as measures to drown the ruble.
    Here we have the only, it seems to me, way: to give up the dollar. All payments should be made in rubles. Let them "want" our rubles. At a dozen dollars per ruble, you see, and we will give up.
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 2 February 2014 13: 18
    +10
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    I think a dull defense before the end of the OLYMPIAD, so the strike on UKRAINE is chosen in time, we are well-awaited for further exacerbation of events with the opening of the OLYMPIAD in SOCHI.


    Maidan Maidan and Burke in the Black Sea strains. 90 UVP and how many Standards are in them and how many Axes nobody knows. Clearly covers the basin of Mount, which already shone in 2008. in Crimea and before that in Poti. And all this is covered by anti-terrorism.
    As well as the appearance of URO destroyers in Europe
    The Pentagon has begun deploying destroyers equipped with the Aegis missile defense system (Aegis) in Europe as part of its missile defense program, US Defense Secretary Chuck Heigl said in a speech at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.
    “Just at noon, we sent the missile defense destroyer Donald Cook to Rota, Spain,” he said. According to him, in the next two years, three more American missile defense destroyers will join this ship to protect Europe.
    At the same time, Heigl emphasized that this step is taken in response to the threat of Iranian ballistic missiles

    link
    And they lie and do not blush. And the Axes are also for protection against Iranian missiles? Our diplomats even threatened to withdraw from the START-3 Treaty, referring to the provision of withdrawal from the START Treaty directly provided for by the document itself, if one of the parties decides that related to the content of the Treaty exceptional circumstances jeopardized her higher interests
    So the situation resembles the pre-war one.


    USS Donald Cook (DDG-75)
  • Tatb
    Tatb 2 February 2014 13: 56
    +2
    The Ukrainian guy married a Russian girl. Before the wedding night, his father gives him instructions! First, take her in his arms and bring her to the bed. Show me how strong Ukraine is. Then take off your shirt-show. what a beautiful Ukraine. And the voice of my grandfather is heard from the next room: -And then start dr ... show, show What independent Ukraine!
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 2 February 2014 14: 09
    +6
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    We expect further exacerbation of events with the opening of the Olympics in Sochi.



    And they didn't even wait:

    American tanks, withdrawn from Europe less than a year ago, are again deployed near the German city of Grafenwehr, where the base of the United Multinational Training Command of the US Armed Forces is located. About 30 vehicles of the latest generation were delivered to the base near Grafenwehr to replace the outdated Abrams tanks.

    It remains only to top the yellow top to finish the black bottom - and Zapadenshchina will take the Maidan with increased fanaticism.
    1. 31231
      31231 2 February 2014 15: 22
      +4
      It remains only to top the yellow top to finish the black bottom - and Zapadenshchina will take the Maidan with increased fanaticism.


      And draw a swastika Das Reich on both sides.
  • ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 2 February 2014 14: 52
    +4
    The Ukrainian events are the beginning of another blow to the Slavic world, and not just to Russia.
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 2 February 2014 16: 52
      +9
      Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
      The Ukrainian events are the beginning of another blow to the Slavic world, and not just to Russia.



      But for this they will immediately receive a sweet candy!
  • Yazov
    Yazov 2 February 2014 20: 40
    +3
    Yes, they are waiting for a reason to boycott the Olympics. Before her, there will be no gestures from our side. 100 percent!
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  • Ihrek
    Ihrek 2 February 2014 07: 04
    +10
    America is trying to convince the whole world that black is white and white is black supporting the Maidan since Maidan is not all Ukraine and the president is legal. Western actions are undermining the foundations of democracy.
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 2 February 2014 07: 24
      +7
      Quote: Jamal1974
      Western action undermines the foundations of democracy.


      Do you really think that democracy is the power of the people? you didn’t understand anything, in fact the USA is that very democracy in its purest form with an admixture of liberalism, it is the main export product of the USA, now they have come to Ukraine
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 2 February 2014 12: 18
        +4
        The United States is not a democracy, but corporatocracy in its purest form and its main export commodity is green candy wrappers for native leaders in exchange for power and resources.
        1. Arhj
          Arhj 2 February 2014 13: 04
          +2
          Cortapocracy is from Perkins. In a mild form, this is called oligarchy. For me, the United States is already a dictatorship, only a collective dictator. Although the term corporatocracy is also suitable for collective dictatorship.
      2. Basarev
        Basarev 2 February 2014 13: 31
        +3
        Maybe you should promote your main export product - spirituality to the west?
    2. Arhj
      Arhj 2 February 2014 13: 00
      +3
      Quote: Jamal1974
      America is trying to convince the whole world that black is white and white is black supporting the Maidan since Maidan is not all Ukraine and the president is legal. Western actions are undermining the foundations of democracy.

      It is, but in the States, for the words about black and white for racism. They have everything "light green" and "dark green" wink
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 2 February 2014 16: 02
        +3
        Quote: Arhj
        It is, but in the States, for the words about black and white for racism. They have everything "light green" and "dark green"

        Aha, and also blue and pink! laughing
  • fzr1000
    fzr1000 2 February 2014 10: 44
    +7
    Not mine, but important

    Over the past week in the West of Ukraine, almost all the buildings of the regional administration were seized by militant detachments of Euromaidan supporters [video]

    And at the same time, one most curious fact came to light. On footage of the storming of the administration in the city of Rivne (and this is the regional center), a character was recorded who led the seizure. And who do you think this is? Sashko Bily! Not Sasha Bely from the gangster series "Brigada", but Alexander Muzychko, who took the nickname Bily, apparently out of romantic feelings for his craft. And it is as follows: during the first Chechen campaign, Muzychko fought on the side of the Ichkerian separatists. Ukrainian nationalists from UNA-UNSO (Ukrainian National Assembly - Ukrainian People’s Self-Defense) then sent their Viking squad to help in the fight against "yams" in Chechnya. In its composition Muzychko became famous for his special cruelty, in 94 - 95 he commanded the personal guard of Dzhokhar Dudayev and was awarded the Ichkerian order "Hero of the Nation". "Viking" during its entire existence, as the popular rumor says, destroyed 4 tanks, 6 armored personnel carriers and one self-propelled gun.

    “Muzychko was very fond of taking pictures with a green jihadist armband and with a large knife, with which he cut Russian soldiers,” Vladimir Rogov, leader of the Slavic Guard Ukrainian public organization, said on Radio Komsomolskaya Pravda.
    1. Genry
      Genry 2 February 2014 11: 37
      +6
      This one ... is taking over the administration of Rivne!





      So who invented this ??
      The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.
      The "Comment" field is required and cannot be empty.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 2 February 2014 12: 19
      +8
      Quote: fzr1000
      Alexander Muzychko, who took the nickname Bily, apparently from romantic feelings for his craft. And it is the following: during the first Chechen company, Muzychko fought on the side of the Ichkeria separatists. Ukrainian nationalists from UNA-UNSO

      So is he alone? And the leader of Spilnaya Sprava, Aleksandr Danilyuk, "receives a charter business jet to send his family to the UK (news.liga.net, 27.01.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX). Not bad for a humble social activist, and one can only guess who creates him such conditions for his activities.
      By the way, Danilyuk is known for long-standing and strong ties with American "non-governmental" organizations. So, back in 2006, he received the odious USAID certificate as a specialist in attracting foreign direct investment.
      So the name of Danilyuk’s organization is “Spilna to the right” is very symbolic. She really has a “common cause” with the “Right Sector”, and only the naive can not see this.
      And what, after this, can it be argued that the “Right Sector” is something independent and uncontrolled? In my opinion, it is clear, “who is dancing the girl”: the parliamentary opposition and its patrons from Europe and America. By the way, the biography of Dmitry Yarosh is the most suitable. Like many figures of this kind, he has a human rights experience, in 1989 he joined the Ukrainian Helsinki Union.
      And the fact that these are, they say, radicals, fascists, will their patrons be embarrassed when such a stake as Ukraine is at stake? After all, the West does not bother the West that the president of the FRG is the son of the Nazis (mother in the NSDAP since 1932) and the nephew of the Gruppenfuehrer of storm troopers (party card 624169) Joachim Gauck (www.focus.de). "
      http://2000.net.ua/2000/forum/puls/97336
      1. alone
        alone 2 February 2014 13: 09
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        After all, the West does not bother that the president of Germany is the son of the Nazis (mother in the NSDAP since 1932) and the nephew of the group of fighter stormtroopers (party card 624169) Joachim Gauck


        Actually Elena, in Germany all the ancestors of the present Germans are connected with the 3rd Reich. This is not surprising. So the president of Germany is a man whose mother was a member of the NSDAP, it is not surprising. At one time this party was the largest in Germany.
        Do not forget that the son is not criminally responsible for the actions of his children and parents. You do not need to manipulate unnecessary facts. There were enough people living in the USSR whose fathers and grandfathers collaborated with the Germans during the war. Now, put everyone to chtoli wall?
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 2 February 2014 17: 07
          +10
          First, I cited an excerpt from the article, as expected, unchanged.

          Quote: lonely
          and enough people lived in the USSR, whose fathers and grandfathers collaborated with the Germans during the war. Now what, put everyone to the wall chtoli?

          And secondly, if their grandchildren hold maidan, take hostages of policemen hostage, burn soldiers of the explosives, spit on veterans of the Second World War in the literal and figurative sense of the word, then these must be put on the wall without fail! IMHO.
          1. alone
            alone 2 February 2014 17: 19
            0
            YOU argue with the manners of the 37th year. A little bit to the wall.

            Are you sure that all those who went to the Maidan are the descendants of those who collaborated with the Nazis? You can’t talk like that. Why are these who are in power better than the Nazis who robbed their country and people? Only because their grandfathers fought against the Nazis?
            Under Yushchenko, the zapadents were in power. However, they didn’t put anyone to the wall)) We need to think about how to get out of this situation. Today you’ll start to put these against the wall, and they will begin to put you to the wall. What will it lead to? Peace for the peace and prosperity of the state?
            But the fact that they spit at veterans and engage in other illegal actions is primarily to blame for the authorities. Personal well-being and the temptation to row everything for themselves overshadowed their minds, and led to anarchy. In Ukraine, there is a collapse of the laws. And everyone is to blame for this. all the West, it is fashionable and no responsibility. "We are NOT GUILTY. AGAIN EUROPE AND AMERICA ARE SETTING UP THE CHARACTERS!". And that's all. Do you think there are no such in other countries of the former USSR? Here, let someone try to tell a WWII participant something bad. Simple people themselves will make a chop of this person, and the police will still have to save this madman.
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 2 February 2014 17: 49
              +5
              Quote: lonely
              Are you sure that all those who came to the Maidan

              There are several hundred radicals and criminals in Hrushevsky, in principle deeply violet, Bendera are they or neo-Nazis they have fascists in their relatives or frostbites from birth!
              And about Maidan itself, if you talk like that there, and the guardians of Bendera and the organizers of the whole mask show with a tambourine and dances and Molotov cocktails are also neo-Nazi supporters! Remember the Pyatnibok called on the uniate priest to hang on all not so good!
              Well, let people who are not committed, students, workers come there, let Yanukovych be outraged by low wages, pensions, stood up and danced and left! Well, in general, they expressed their position "get panda!" And went to work to eat what you need, after the Maidan!
              What is the next impeachment? And then from whom to choose? From "three carcasses" And the election campaign and the presidential race for what money to spend? From the budget correctly! And the budget with a hole in billions and more debts for gas! And at the same time, regional and some city legislative assemblies are paralyzed. Who will count the votes? IN Liberty! Who will win? IN Liberty! And everything will turn out the same, only even worse! Maidan without end!
              1. zzz
                zzz 2 February 2014 18: 25
                +3
                Quote: Sid.74
                Maidan without end!


                I don’t read how much, but only one thing comes to mind: we need a new leader oriented to Russia. And the most important condition is INDEPENDENT media broadcasting throughout Ukraine !!! Otherwise, how to convey this leader to the people? Again, everything depends on the oligarchs ... Money rules the world ... alas.
                1. alone
                  alone 2 February 2014 18: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: zzz
                  I don’t read how much, but only one thing comes to mind: we need a new leader oriented to Russia.


                  you don’t understand. A new leader oriented to Russia means Maidan-3))) the same rake. A leader oriented to all Ukrainian people who are not alien to the west, the tail, and og, and the north is needed. only such a person can determine where Ukraine is on the way .You can imagine Yanukovych announcing that there will be a referendum in Ukraine for Ukraine’s accession to Russia. Do you know what will happen? Throw him to the politics basket. And you know why? Because the initiative comes from him. He has done so many nonsense that any even inadequate thought does not find support. People simply do not believe him.
                  1. zzz
                    zzz 2 February 2014 19: 17
                    +2
                    Quote: lonely
                    Just imagine Yanukovych announces that in Ukraine there will be a referendum for Ukraine’s accession to Russia. Do you know what will happen?


                    And who was talking about Yanukovych? I said new! And it is not necessary the next day to announce to the people which way to move. PATIENCE IS THE VERSION OF THE STRENGTH!
                    1. alone
                      alone 2 February 2014 19: 24
                      +1
                      The new one, first of all, should focus on the people and on its country. Then it will be completely clear what Ukraine wants. And so a purely pro-Russian one will come, which will not suit the West, a Westerner will come, not building the East. There will again be a dead end. The new president should arrange this. atmosphere so that the country is not divided to the west, to the east. He needs to make sure that the people trust him. But with whom Ukraine should be decided by a referendum, and not by the desires of the presidents. And the previous ones only did what, acted "at the behest, according to my desire. "So we got that situation.
                    2. zzz
                      zzz 2 February 2014 19: 33
                      +2
                      Quote: lonely
                      But with whom should Ukraine be decided by referendum, and not by the desires of the presidents.


                      I agree with 100%
                    3. aksakal
                      aksakal 3 February 2014 15: 30
                      0
                      Quote: lonely
                      So we got that situation

                      Quote: zzz
                      on 100%

                      - I really want to agree with you, but alas ... I have skepticism ... Ukraine in the form in which it was part of the USSR and existed until now, alas, DO NOT SAVE! Neither a referendum nor a super referendum. Galicians do not recognize the choice of the eastern and vice versa. The West will not agree to lose its prey, which has almost been swallowed. Russia will not agree to give its primordially its "swallow" to this predator. As a result - Ukraine with a hefty part of the body torn off, but alive and rescued. Alas ... I really want to agree with you, but it doesn't work out ... Look at things objectively.
            2. Sid.74
              Sid.74 2 February 2014 18: 36
              +2
              Quote: zzz
              Again, everything depends on the oligarchs ... Money rules the world ... alas.

              There are no million opinions and there is no way out! Ukrainians need their own Putin, it will appear so good, and here everything will be exactly pro-European, it will be configured or pro-Russian, the main thing would be to be a pragmatist and dance from considerations how good it is for the people, even the pro-European leader will understand that it is easier to integrate with Europe when we in the vehicle will be for 200 million rather than tens of millions! Maidan will not appear without end!
              1. zzz
                zzz 2 February 2014 19: 29
                +3
                Quote: Sid.74
                and here everything is exactly pro-European, he will be configured or pro-Russian


                I don’t think that the pro-European Poland, the Baltic states and all the others around us add confidence, calmness and a feeling of support to us. On the contrary, there are only mongrels around, although small, but very "fraudulent".
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  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 2 February 2014 12: 37
    +3
    It is a pity that our special services have missed this Bandera?
    Maybe soon, he’s out of luck?
  • 120352
    120352 2 February 2014 11: 47
    +4
    It seems that Russia is still in an ambush. How not to sit out. After all, it’s possible to be behind enemy lines. And then what? To go to the partisans?
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 2 February 2014 13: 35
      +2
      Perhaps this is the plan? When our special services deliver a powerful blow from the rear, it will be interesting to look at the fascist faces in confusion, shouting something like: "Traitor! The enemy is among us!"
  • Basarev
    Basarev 2 February 2014 13: 25
    +2
    It’s not long to wait - at first we will limp, and then turn around and show the Americans what the real is!
    1. alone
      alone 2 February 2014 13: 28
      0
      Do you need a plus? Tell me, I’ll put it to you, are you tired of writing nonsense?
      First show what the real is to your thieves-oligarchs)) and then to the Americans.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 2 February 2014 13: 44
    +5
    Yes, the burden of the Olympics is being used to the full. There has not yet been such a heat of provocative actions in all directions. The war from diplomatic grew into open. The next stage is the arming of Ukrainian militants. The West will not allow peace among our neighbors. Until the people themselves rise and express their opinion on the matter. With the advent of spring, something serious will begin.
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  • askort154
    askort154 2 February 2014 13: 51
    +5
    sub307 ... And what "scenario" does Russia have, who knows? So far nothing intelligible has been heard.

    - "Russian harnesses for a long time, but goes fast."
    - "do not count your chickens before they are hatched".
    - "don't tell OP until you've jumped."
    Russia is a huge and wise country, it shouldn't fuss! This is YOU not "cargo-Balts" led by the Poles, who stand on their hind legs in front of the Anglo-Saxons.
    RUSSIA was, is and will be RUSSIA! Who doubts, let us once again turn to conclusions on this subject, an outstanding European politician, Otto von Bismarck.
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 2 February 2014 15: 26
    -3
    Quote: sub307
    And what "scenario" does Russia have, who knows?



    "Cut to hell without waiting for peritonitis!" (with)
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 2 February 2014 17: 02
      +5
      The White House website has already registered several petitions demanding that American peacekeepers be sent to Ukraine.

      This is how the preparation of the theater of war proceeds.
  • Sergey XXX
    Sergey XXX 3 February 2014 00: 05
    0
    In the case of maintaining the integrity of Ukraine, there will be no military intervention on any side. There was, is, and will be indirect intervention (the only way to stop it is to cut off diplomatic ties with the West and close borders, and no one will do that). In the case of military intervention by the West, Russia's reaction is unpredictable (since it is likely that decisions will be made not by pragmatism, but by feelings), fear of this holds them back. In the event of our not timely military intervention first, we run the risk of engaging in a futile guerrilla war with a vague outcome. I am sure that all this has been calculated and the lines of behavior of Russia for all options have been determined and it will not necessarily be military intervention. Now there is some expectation by all those interested in the aging of the situation. The flower has not yet fully blossomed; it is not known what to pollinate and what fruits to expect. God forbid, that would not be brown.
  • Anper
    Anper 3 February 2014 01: 41
    0
    That's why he and the Russian script, so
    Quote: sub307
    So far, nothing intelligible has been heard.
    After the New Year, some TV channels (Inter, for example) sharply changed the vector - from Maidan to more or less objective coverage of events. The red thread is the condemnation of 1) radicals; 2) stupid opposition; 3) non-compliance with laws. For the first time in the entire existence of Maidan with TV screen, the Ukrainian non-last channel transparently and unequivocally explained where and how much finances came from, literally in Lavrov's words he spoke about Western and American representatives on the Maidan, etc. And why is this fright to change the broadcasting of a private channel so dramatically? And isn't this the results of the start of an information counteroffensive? As it was already said here: "Remember the mysterious tactical technique - when we retreat, we go forward." The technique consists in bringing all the riffraffs to the legal field and then playing on this field with only one goal. One famous person is very fond of such things.
  • horoh
    horoh 2 February 2014 06: 56
    +5
    Oh, sometime the Americans will play a game of democracy, they will have to tear up blood !!!!
    1. domokl
      domokl 2 February 2014 07: 36
      +11
      As long as the dollar in the power of nikert does not threaten them ... And without world currencies, the United States will turn into a zilch on their own ...
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 2 February 2014 06: 59
    +5
    The main thing is that everything does not end following the example of the Ribbentropp-Molotov pact .... too one-sided and propaganda news is presented, just like back in 1939, we all remember how it ended. Forces ochchen very hard to think about the REAL roles of interested BIG geopolitical players.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 2 February 2014 07: 06
      +9
      Nothing surprising in WHOSE HANDS of the media he orders the music-example of "RAIN" in plain sight.
    2. matross
      matross 2 February 2014 07: 21
      +13
      Neither the United States nor Russia will be satisfied with the partition of Ukraine. Nobody wants to be content with a part, EVERYTHING is at stake! In the case of a partition, everyone will assume that it has been outplayed. So there will be no Molotov-Ribbentrop pacts. The most likely scenario, in my opinion, is that Ukraine will remain under Russian influence, formally independent, in a state of permanent revolution (fueled by the United States). Those. the situation will be "mothballed" for years. The "revolutionaries" do not have the strength to turn the situation in their favor completely, the Ukrainian authorities will not voluntarily resign, but they will not act by all means of state coercion, none of the foreign countries or their associations will go to direct military intervention for fear of unleashing a serious, m. ... and world war.
      1. zzz
        zzz 2 February 2014 12: 15
        +6
        Quote: matRoss
        and from foreign countries or their associations direct military intervention will not go for fear of unleashing a serious, m. and world war.



        Why should they be afraid ?! For example, the United States .. now they benefit from war .. crisis ..
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        2. matross
          matross 2 February 2014 12: 27
          +2
          Quote: zzz
          For example, the United States .. now they benefit from war .. crisis ..

          War is beneficial, but not suicidal, i.e. not with Russia. the Americans will act against us, but they will decide on direct aggression only if they are sure of the success of the first strike at 99%, and therefore never. And the invasion of Ukraine is a de facto declaration of war on Russia. Well, or someone third can provoke an unlikely scenario too ...
    3. domokl
      domokl 2 February 2014 07: 41
      +9
      Quote: And Us Rat
      The main thing is that everything does not end following the example of the "Ribbentropp-Molotov" pact.

      But in this there is a rational grain .. News can be viewed on the Internet from different angles.
      Everyone understands that in any case, Europeans will engage in force in Europe ... And that means the Germans. The rest are on the catch. And Putin and Merkel may well agree. Europe does not go to Ukraine, and we are a little cheaper gas, for example, sell ...
      It is only doubtful that Russia would agree to this, simply because even now Yanukovych’s special love for Russia is not visible. It seems that he decided with the blood of the people to continue his policy to ours and yours, but in fact to nobody ...
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 2 February 2014 09: 58
        +8
        Quote: domokl
        One gets the feeling that he decided by the blood of the people to continue his policy with ours and yours, and essentially no one ...

        And I get the feeling that he’s just panicking and don’t know where to jerk, like a deer caught between a wolf and a bear - who behind him already decided how they should have lunch. Remember the chemical weapons of Syria, despite the pathos of public confrontation - on key issues of the restructuring of the world, the actions of Putin and Obama suspiciously harmoniously complement each other, and so none of them remains in REAL loss. Too many matches lately. Does this seem suspicious to you? request Or the same "Iranian issue" which "suddenly" began to be resolved by leaps and bounds after decades of being at a dead center.
        Not so long ago, Ukraine began to show distinct signs of attention to the proposals of Chinese friendship despite the displeasure of both Russia and the USA - is the dog buried here? what
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 2 February 2014 10: 13
          +5
          Quote: And Us Rat
          And I get the feeling that he is just panicking and does not know where to jerk, like a deer being squeezed between a wolf and a bear - who, behind his back, have already decided how to dine with them.

          Good analogy between wolf and bear laughing Only Yanukovych doesn’t look like Saakashvili’s chewing tie, it’s likely that we don’t see much of that, and the intrigue will last a year before the next presidential election in Ukraine! Do not forget also elections in the spring in the European Parliament will, around 30-35%, according to current polls will be taken by nationalists and not dreamers about the EU! Most of such parliamentarians are talking about not letting Ukraine to the EU! As a new economic problem, a source of instability and another problem in relations Russia and the EU! In the spring, everything can change very cool and it will turn out like with the British parliament who refused to bomb Syria!
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 2 February 2014 17: 14
            +6
            Quote: Sid.74
            In the spring, everything can change very cool and it will turn out like with the British Parliament, which refused to bomb Syria!

            That's the whole point. that is why the current squad is trying to force the jogging association to sign up now. And our opposition also strives for this, because he feels that then the "window" will slam shut and will be like in that joke - "the freebie flew away." and they will not be able to independently support the Maidan, because how is it - How can you overthrow a criminal regime without three meals a day from restaurants? How can you fight power for free? Well, it is clear that they will not spend their "hard-earned" money.
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac 2 February 2014 12: 36
          +4
          An ordinary Ukrainian national amusement - "an affectionate calf sucks two mothers", but they forget that "you chase two hares, you won't catch a single one."
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          2. matross
            matross 2 February 2014 19: 33
            +2
            Quote: PENZYAC
            "affectionate calf of two mothers sucks

            Quote: PENZYAC
            "you will chase two hares, you will not catch a single one."

            "Affectionate aunt will suck everyone off" and "with two eggs in both and you will catch" - refined and adapted Russian sayings for modern Ukraine laughing
            1. both s69
              both s69 3 February 2014 07: 31
              +1
              Quote: matRoss
              Quote: PENZYAC
              "affectionate calf of two mothers sucks

              Quote: PENZYAC
              "you will chase two hares, you will not catch a single one."

              "Affectionate aunt will suck everyone off" and "with two eggs in both and you will catch" - refined and adapted Russian sayings for modern Ukraine laughing

              Vesko said, albeit rude, but essentially true! laughing
        3. askort154
          askort154 2 February 2014 14: 56
          +4
          And Us Rat .... on the key issues of restructuring the world, the actions of Putin and Obama suspiciously harmoniously complement each other, and so none of them is left in a REAL loss. Too many coincidences lately. Doesn't this seem suspicious to you? request Or the same "Iranian issue" which "suddenly" began to be resolved by leaps and bounds after ...

          In my opinion, there is no suspicion here, but quite real: the center of the economic and political gravity of our SHARIKA is clearly shifting towards the APR, where the main players are the United States, China and Russia. Therefore, the Iranian problem is quickly collapsing,
          The Middle East will go under the control of NATO-EU + Russia (turning it into a regional problem). Therefore, the United States (Obama) is trying to attract
          the scales of Russia (Putin) as opposed to the PRC in the APR. Ukraine in this period
          the US's trump card is to put pressure on Russia, plus the opportunity to take revenge on Russia for the failure of the United States in the Syrian issue, and in BV in general, in short, the United States has no time for Iran and Israel.
        4. Suhov
          Suhov 2 February 2014 15: 01
          +6
          Great game - going on!

          The historical confrontation between the Russian Empire (USSR and modern Russia) on the one hand and
          Great Britain, and now the United States on the other hand -
          continues

          But now it turns out like this:
          Putin plays chess hi
          The owner of the White House is in checkers, wassat
          And Banderlog from the Maidan are only capable of going to towns ... fool

          This is such a Maidan in Ukraine ... sad
          1. builder
            builder 2 February 2014 15: 04
            +15
            Quote: Sukhov
            This is such a Maidan in Ukraine ...
            1. 31231
              31231 2 February 2014 15: 24
              +13
              Three morons is power.
              1. askort154
                askort154 2 February 2014 16: 00
                +6
                31231 .. Three morons are power.

                "DIFTSIT" of opposition leaders. There are few real violent, and the "opposition" did not take
                power - bucks down the drain! How can there not be a crisis ?!
          2. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 2 February 2014 15: 33
            +3
            Quote: Sukhov
            Great game - going on!
            The historical confrontation between the Russian Empire (USSR and modern Russia) on the one hand and
            Great Britain, and now the United States on the other hand

            And for some reason it seems to me that the sides of this game are now working together to prevent a new participant in the game - China, as a full player. what
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 2 February 2014 12: 30
        +2
        You never know what Yanukovych decided there, he hardly has a political future.
    4. jjj
      jjj 2 February 2014 07: 45
      +10
      This same pact, if you look at it impartially, is an outstanding diplomatic achievement of the USSR. Well, many of your fellow tribesmen just saved lives
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 2 February 2014 09: 47
        +1
        Quote: jjj
        This same pact, if you look at it impartially, is an outstanding diplomatic achievement of the USSR.

        Rather, it is a military achievement, in fact - two strong states, having agreed, tore in half and ate the weaker ones, which turned out to be between a rock and a hard place since they became "easy prey" for both sides. I mean ...
        The secret supplementary protocol to the Non-aggression Treaty between Germany and the USSR of August 23 of 1939 of the year XNUMX of the year described the "boundaries of the spheres of interests" of the parties "in the event of a territorial and political reorganization" of the Baltic states and Poland.
        According to him, the Baltic states were included in the sphere of interests of the USSR. At the same time, Lithuania received Vilnius (at that time Polish), and the border of interests in Poland passed along the rivers Narew, Vistula and San.
        The question of Poland’s independence, according to the protocol, could be “finally clarified” later, by agreement of the parties.
        The USSR also emphasized interest in Bessarabia, and Germany - disinterest in it.
        Is Ukraine next in line? request
        1. Hitlerkaput
          Hitlerkaput 2 February 2014 19: 42
          +5
          Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
          The Ukrainian events are the beginning of another blow to the Slavic world, and not just to Russia.

          But I came across this-

          but in my opinion this is more correct:
  • svp67
    svp67 2 February 2014 07: 07
    +4
    Oh, we let them close ... the enemy is already at the gate, but there is no alarm ...
    1. horoh
      horoh 2 February 2014 07: 13
      +5
      No, the enemy is not at the gate, but already at home and begins to activate !!!
      1. olviko
        olviko 2 February 2014 09: 05
        +13
        "No, the enemy is not at the gate, but already at our house and is starting to become more active !!!"

        The enemy has been at home for a long time, since the 91st year. How can you further activate then?
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 2 February 2014 10: 06
          +5
          Quote: olviko
          The enemy has been at home for a long time, since the 91st year. How can you further activate then?

          I would say that since March 11, 1985, that is, much earlier.
  • Name
    Name 2 February 2014 07: 24
    +12
    Greetings to all! You know how I noticed in a joke Little Johnny, spying through the crack at the parents in the bedroom at night: "And these people forbid me to pick my nose? !!!"Therefore, one should not pay attention to the "appeals" of the United States and the EU for non-interference in the affairs of Ukraine,and methodically, systematically strengthen the position of Russia in the Eastern and Central parts of Ukraine. hi
    1. svp67
      svp67 2 February 2014 09: 57
      +10
      Quote: name
      , but methodically, systematically strengthen the position of Russia in the Eastern and Central parts of Ukraine.

      Well, you don't need to offend the South ...
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 2 February 2014 07: 24
    +11
    from the Don.
    I believe that until the end of the Olympics, Russia, represented by the GDP, will not make sudden movements. The GDP has been able to surprise the world with non-standard moves. It will surprise this time too. I hope so!
    1. housekeeper
      housekeeper 2 February 2014 13: 35
      +3
      And it seems to me that this time Yanukovych is "in the stake." After all, not only gas prices and loans were discussed during the visit to Moscow. Putin absolutely does not need "happiness" in the form of another Syria on the southern borders.
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 2 February 2014 07: 25
    +7
    The accents in the article are placed correctly, but I would like to see the EU costs for the fascist rabble for
    Ukraine. I wonder what is the reaction of ordinary taxpayers in the United States and other satellites?
    The opinions of everyone there, Schwarzeneggers and Clooney, do not count, these people with frostbitten brains in Hollywood
    The status of contempt for the home-grown defenders of the Maidan, Russian insects such as Zverev, Akhmedzhakova, Dzhigurda, and others, is a consumer of Russian show business.
    True, Dzhigurda is not a citizen of Russia, but is an ordinary guest worker.
    Impressive in the photo is the portrait of Bandera surrounded by priests with a cross in their hands. Is it really that the whole society is so duped that under the sign of Christ it is ready to plunge Ukraine into bloody turmoil?
    1. zzz
      zzz 2 February 2014 16: 42
      +4
      Quote: Neophyte
      Impressive in the photo is the portrait of Bandera surrounded by priests with a cross in their hands. Is it really that the whole society is so duped that under the sign of Christ it is ready to plunge Ukraine into bloody turmoil?


      Today I called my friends in Donetsk - I'm in shock! They don't show them about any portraits of Bandera, or how they threw "Berkut" ... !!! They think that so-so .. razvlekalovo on the Maidan .. for those who do not want to work.
      1. oaziss
        oaziss 2 February 2014 20: 47
        +2
        Quote: zzz
        Today I called my friends in Donetsk - I'm in shock! They don't show them about any portraits of Bandera, or how they threw "Berkut" ... !!! They think that so-so .. razvlekalovo on the Maidan .. for those who do not want to work.

        This infection has already reached Donbass. negative am
  • bagram108
    bagram108 2 February 2014 07: 25
    +8
    Along the way, Russia is also accused of pressure and interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine, although none of our politicians went there. It seems that they already consider Ukraine and its affairs as their own.
    1. housekeeper
      housekeeper 2 February 2014 13: 37
      +5
      For so long a joke has been walking through the open spaces:
      Once the ambassadors of the USA, France, Spain, Germany, Denmark gathered on the Maidan; US Assistant Secretary of State - Victoria Nuland; US Senators Chris Murphy and John McCain; German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle; High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Catherine Ashton; the former president of Georgia - Mikhail Saakashvili; Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans; MEP - Jacek Protasevich; Minister of Foreign Affairs of Lithuania - Linas Linkevičius; Speaker of the Lithuanian Seimas - Loreta Grauzhinene; former Prime Minister of Poland - Jaroslaw Kaczynski; Senator of the Czech Republic - Jaromir Stetina and .................. iii ..............
      .................... accused Russia of interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine!
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 2 February 2014 07: 36
    +8
    The masks have been dropped, the United States openly supports the fascists in Ukraine, only the weak-minded cannot understand that all this is directed only against Russia. Our leadership should think about whom it is going to rely on when the fire spreads to Russia. Maybe relying on oligarchs, bankers, monopolists? so they will run away first, only the people will remain. Or maybe the authorities are already lubricating the skis too?
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 2 February 2014 08: 48
      +9
      But judging by the number of rabid grandmothers on the Maidan, ready to go to the Berkut even in front of the Banderlog, there are enough weak minds there. They just believe that they are in favor of a better future.
      And the GDP is thinking on whom to rely on. Look for yourself, the salaries of the police and the military have been raised, the problem of housing for the military has never been solved so actively before, the NGO has partly bought it.
      Even with Navalny, they showed original humanism - they gave him a suspended sentence, i.e. humane, but will continue to "drive the wave" - ​​to cancel the condition of one month. That's why you can hardly hear him now.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 2 February 2014 12: 52
        +4
        Remember how Lenin called Stalin - "a genius dispenser", and this "genius dispenser" as a result gradually went from complete ignorance to the master of half the world.
    2. olviko
      olviko 2 February 2014 09: 23
      +10
      "USA openly supports fascists in Ukraine"

      The United States uses the Nazis as a battering ram, to demolish the legitimate government and create chaos in Ukraine. These bastards do not disdain anything.
    3. 31231
      31231 2 February 2014 12: 45
      +3
      Our leadership should think about whom it is going to rely on when the fire spreads to Russia. Maybe relying on oligarchs, bankers, monopolists? so they will run away first, only the people will remain. Or maybe the authorities are already lubricating the skis too?


      Why am I not panting about your next universal position ?! I already thought you and Smirinov are already driving Maidan in Kiev. For now, just drive.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 2 February 2014 12: 53
        +3
        Quote: 31231
        Why am I not panting about your next universal position ?! I already thought you and Smirinov are already driving Maidan in Kiev. For now, just drive.


        Believe me, that if such Maidan people appeared in the city where I live, then they certainly would have chased them despite their age. Yes, so that the brains would fall into place, if in fact there are still brains.
  • santush
    santush 2 February 2014 07: 36
    +9
    Yanukovych is fooling the EU and the USA, because, I think, he’s afraid for his bills in their banks! It’s time to crush the Maidan and spit to the West!
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 2 February 2014 13: 53
      +1
      Yanukovych was sitting on two chairs, now on two electric ones.
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  • Onizuka teacher
    Onizuka teacher 2 February 2014 07: 37
    -21%
    Surprisingly, did they also pay the priests? They are for the Maidan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8RAHqoWMCQ
    1. jjj
      jjj 2 February 2014 07: 47
      +9
      And these are priests of another system
    2. 31231
      31231 2 February 2014 12: 51
      +3
      Surprisingly, did they also pay the priests?


      Why should they pay ?! They are sincere albumboys. They need to be treated.

    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 2 February 2014 12: 55
      +5
      The Western Church has always confused the secular with the spiritual - the legacy of ancient Rome, however.
    4. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 2 February 2014 16: 19
      +4
      Quote: Teacher Onizuka
      Surprisingly, did they also pay the priests? They are for the Maidan

      In this photo, the priest expels the devil from the Maidan! wassat Therefore, he is on the Maidan.
    5. Hitlerkaput
      Hitlerkaput 2 February 2014 19: 26
      +3
      These are priests of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate (Filaretites, schismatics)
    6. aksakal
      aksakal 4 February 2014 14: 40
      0
      Quote: Teacher Onizuka
      Surprisingly, did they also pay the priests? They are for the Maidan

      - lucky - it’s the twentieth minus mine laughing I love round numbers, and today it’s getting lucky - it’s the fiftieth plus article about Admiral Kuznetsov — mine, and here it’s the twentieth minus laughing Thanks for the opportunity.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 2 February 2014 07: 38
    +2
    Our diplomacy is still very cautious, but at the same time we must do our best to launch ideological propaganda in defense of our interests, and first of all, to launch a political and ideological struggle against those who support our mandated people, and not constantly show these wry-mongers on television. In addition, we need to make our Russian pederasts and lesbians publicly condemn their Western and Eastern European brothers. Deny entry into Russia, anti-Russian elements and include them in the list of Dima Yakovlev. Start the fight with the 5th column inside the country.
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 2 February 2014 07: 41
    +18
    Compare the symbolism on the black flags of the first photo.
    A mirror with a tactical sign of the SS Panzer Division "Das Reich".
    Ghouls climbed out of the coffins.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 2 February 2014 12: 59
      0
      2+ "-" zombies love to play basketball too. "
    2. Hitlerkaput
      Hitlerkaput 2 February 2014 19: 21
      +1
      It's time to return to the place ...
  • GorynychZmey78
    GorynychZmey78 2 February 2014 07: 43
    +9
    US Secretary of State John Kerry at the international economic forum in Davos made a very symptomatic statement. “The absence of excessive troop movements or the absence of threatening responses does not indicate a change in the US foreign policy strategy. "We are not backing away from our policy of coming to those regions where we see violence and growing violations of human rights."


    nothing in this world just happens! sooner or later you have to pay for all your actions, as you do so and will do with you!
    if you happen to be with America itself, not one country in the world will give a hand to these two-faced killers.
    in general I wish America to Tago how they will burst from arrogance doolar will certainly get a meteor strike on Washington! for all their atrocities learned to this world !!!
    ordinary people are certainly sorry, but how can I stop this virus from spreading out of the murderous and unpunished SHIT! I don’t know !!
    1. Bagatur
      Bagatur 2 February 2014 11: 47
      +6
      Their mother! I can’t understand what it costs Russia and China to sell off their dolars and cut back on US state purchases ??? For what it is necessary to finance those who put in their prophecy the destruction of Russia and its rule in the 3rd class state ...
  • delfinN
    delfinN 2 February 2014 08: 38
    +9
    "First, the country's leader is subjected to international obstruction, then the country itself receives an economic embargo for the leader's" sins "

    Ukraine is in a privileged position. Well, the economic embargo will fail. Russia can simultaneously cover the whole of Ukraine, there would be political will on both sides.
  • delfinN
    delfinN 2 February 2014 08: 45
    +19
    The fact that for more than 20 years a whole generation has been lost is nothing to worry about. History knows an example. Only we need to manage this process.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 2 February 2014 08: 57
      +13
      You reminded me a wonderful cartoon about Maidan!
  • Boris55
    Boris55 2 February 2014 09: 12
    +17
    "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
    Events in Ukraine once again showed the withered intentions of the West in relation to Russian civilization.
    One may not believe in the coexistence of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", in the "US National Security Council Directive 20/1 of August 18, 1948", in the "Harvard Project" ... but, as they say, "the fact is obvious - they will not rest until they destroy All Western libiroids are enemies of the Motherland, and all who hang around with them are accomplices of the enemies.
    The West supports all the scum who can somehow harm Russian civilization ...
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 2 February 2014 09: 27
    +10
    Quote: Sid.74
    ... Maybe it's time to go back to Berlin! soldier

    No need to take Berlin. The Germans now more than anyone else have a headache from this mess.
    They are now choosing: to go against Russia, remaining in the wake of the priests of the dying "tiger", or to maintain the prospect of strategic cooperation with Russia and become the power center of all of Europe?
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 2 February 2014 09: 52
      +3
      Quote: BigRiver
      They choose now

      I agree with you! hi But as they choose for a long time, the United States and the IMF hold them tightly and hold them back regularly when they turn their heads in Russia! Here, either in the blinders, weave or throw the cowboy to all hell! Then the Germans themselves must choose and start from the press!
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 2 February 2014 13: 05
        +2
        The task of Russia is to help them in this.
      2. housekeeper
        housekeeper 2 February 2014 13: 46
        +8
        What is there to think about? belay Already twice in the past century, each other was "cleaned". So it's time to bring to life the Anglo-Saxons' nightmare - the union of Germany and Russia. smile
    2. 31231
      31231 2 February 2014 13: 04
      +3
      No need to take Berlin. The Germans now more than anyone else have a headache from this mess.
      They are now choosing: to go against Russia, remaining in the wake of the priests of the dying "tiger", or to maintain the prospect of strategic cooperation with Russia and become the power center of all of Europe?

      I agree with you. There is no need for harsh and rash decisions. The info war is the key to victory. And with such "peaceful" protesters, you don't really need to invent anything, just publish their real pearls.
      At the beginning of the Euromaidan, the Tritushek had much more support. Now they simply began to actively discredit them with their own shortcomings and pearls. And already supporters significantly decreased.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 2 February 2014 09: 34
    +8
    When you hear from the screen of the whimpers of Ukrainian politicians about the EU market ... well, we’ll just turn around ... we ask one question ... about their legal capacity. Let’s say at least one country that has benefited from European integration over the past 20 years, I’m silent about the former social camp ... from the kapstran friends of the so-called newcomers ... at least someone got something ... everywhere there are only bummers.
    A fresh example of Moldova ... well, they got access to the EU market, and who was waiting for them there ... wine, but actually who needs it there, they have nothing to do with it ... the result is some solid minuses.
    And what can Ukraine offer ... after all, the main partner is 80% Russia ... but the EU needs them like air, tens of millions ... new slaves enslaved by credit.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 2 February 2014 13: 09
      +3
      ". Let them name at least one country that has benefited from European integration over the past 20 years."
      There is one country - Germany, although it also lost in something, you have to pay for everything.
  • kind
    kind 2 February 2014 09: 35
    +5
    and this is the newly arrived employees of the State Department are considering magnets with the symbols of the Maidan ...

    which they themselves brought. The US mission in Ukraine resembles the purchase of land from North American Indians. Then they brought them beads, mirrors and whiskey. In Ukraine, the same thing, only other gifts: cookies, magnets, and ... vodka !!!
  • igorek45
    igorek45 2 February 2014 09: 43
    +3
    Regarding the events in Ukraine and not only .. As well as about the plans of the United States and possibly Russia with respect to the current Ukrainian events, State Duma deputy Yevgeny Fedorov very clearly told .. I recommend everyone to watch this video:
    1. Heccrbq.3
      Heccrbq.3 2 February 2014 10: 36
      0
      Pay less attention to this paid "click".
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 2 February 2014 11: 06
        0
        I agree, a lot of it has become this Fedorov!
        1. Bigriver
          Bigriver 2 February 2014 12: 01
          +5
          Quote: Sid.74
          I agree, a lot of it has become this Fedorov!

          He is a great craftsman to make trends and theories from individual facts.
          It feels like I'm afraid to get bored and therefore is in constant search for creativity :)
          In a word - a media person.
          1. 222222
            222222 2 February 2014 13: 35
            +2
            Instead, I recommend Fedorov regional .... more reasonable and relevant ..and without show off ..
            the "Background" program of February 1, 2014
            http://odessa36.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=2707:2011-10-02
            -11-25-31 & Itemid = 112 & layout = default
    2. 222222
      222222 2 February 2014 13: 22
      +2
      "Maidan No. 3, scenarios of the future for our country, for the authorities and the opposition."
      -politician, author of the books "Brother" and "Brother-2", chairman of the political party "Great Ukraine" Igor Vitalievich Berkut.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UA77fgx49g
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 2 February 2014 09: 55
    +7
    Iraq, Serbia, Libya and Afghanistan know how well the NATO peacekeepers "stop" the suffering of the population.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 2 February 2014 18: 46
      +3
      How well the NATO peacekeepers "stop" the suffering of the population know in Iraq, Serbia, Libya and Afghanistan

      And in Ukraine they already know. Yushchenko, the Yankees puppet brought Ukraine to collapse, and his heirs lead farther and farther from normal life.
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 2 February 2014 10: 11
    +6
    Sorry guys, I decided to repost, it's too much of a topic.
    I have a strong feeling that the modern government in Ukraine and radical nationalists are two sides of the same coin. Those. one American project. Support for Maydauns is the talk of the town, amerskie politicians on the Maidan are almost on a rotational basis. The authorities are also soiled, for example, the shoulder straps of the SBU officers from the hands of the US ambassador are recalled. Or training on various projects in NATO and the USA. Calculated for the legitimate transition of Ukraine under the control of the West. There was a misfire, we went over to plan "B", apparently a little hastily. Nobody is interested in the fate of Yanukovych in both cases, so apparently he kicked up or like Labeled (which is also boring). In general, "Carthage must be destroyed." Carthage, from their point of view, is Russia and, naturally, the Slavic world.
  • konvalval
    konvalval 2 February 2014 10: 27
    +5
    They still wonder why they are not loved around the world.
  • Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 2 February 2014 10: 28
    +5
    Quote: And Us Rat
    The main thing is that everything does not end following the example of the "Ribbentropp-Molotov" pact .... too one-sided and propaganda news is presented, just like back in 1939, we all remember how it ended.

    Yes, you yourself, sir, a fighter propaganda machine of the State Department, remembered the USSR-Germany pact. A subtle move. Everyone associates the Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact with the eve of the Second World War, but at the same time it is a reason for accusing the USSR of provoking the war.
    Although it is obvious that here it is more appropriate to mention the Munich Agreement of 1938. The West, as in the past, is flirting with fascism. The most influential lobby in the United States is yours. But for some reason they, as in the 30s of the last century, pretend that they do not notice the racist statements of the maydanutyh.
    They turn a blind eye to the anti-Semitic statements of young men from western Ukraine. And I would like to paraphrase your comment a little - "The main thing is that everything would not end following the example of the HOLOCAUST too one-sided and propaganda news is presented, just like back in 1939, we all remember how it ended."
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 2 February 2014 10: 56
      +4
      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      Yes, you yourself are sir fighter propaganda machine of the State Department

      I am not a fan of USA and certainly not geyrops, the first from an ally will turn into a burden, the second are just litter of oil sheikhs (which we are far from friends)

      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      The most influential lobby in the USA is your Jewish.

      Jewish lobby, not Israeli, they’re on your mind, sometimes our interests coincide, sometimes not.

      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      They turn a blind eye to the anti-Semitic statements of young men from western Ukraine. And I would like to paraphrase your comment a little - "The main thing is that everything does not end like the HOLOCAUST

      This will not happen again - they can bark as much as they like, but with the instinct of self-preservation, their leaders are still friends, and I believe that we have already quite clearly and repeatedly proved that whoever raises a hand against the Jews will be punished, most likely lethally, and no matter where he is hiding and who protects him.
      Be sure - our special services have a complete dossier on all these Nazis, including "addresses and addresses", and I am more than sure - they have already quietly hinted where the line should not be crossed. hi
      1. edeligor
        edeligor 2 February 2014 18: 29
        +4
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Be sure - our special services have a complete dossier on all these Nazis, including "addresses and addresses", and I am more than sure - they have already quietly hinted where the line should not be crossed.

        That is who should take an example from our special services and there would be no Maidan!
        the Obama administration has spent $ 184 million on Ukrainian projects dedicated to "the development of civil society and the protection of human rights."
        Protected human rights, their mother!
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 4 February 2014 14: 53
        +1
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Be sure - our special services have a complete dossier on all these Nazis, including "addresses and addresses", and I am more than sure - they have already quietly hinted where the line should not be crossed.

        - the most offensive thing is that this feature sounds like this: "you can rage on your Maidan, you can undermine the foundations of the state, moreover, you can arrange a massacre of the Russian population in Ukraine! But
        Quote: And Us Rat
        he who raises a hand against the Jews will be punished
        ". Simply put, since there is an opportunity to stop the rabid Bandera, there is also the possibility of stopping him altogether. But this is not in the interests
        Quote: And Us Rat
        no Jewish lobby, not Israeli
        ".
        I think someday you will also read that the Russians "have the opportunity to stop
        aggression of any Arab country against Israel, but Russia will confine itself only to the fact that those Arabs did not take it into their heads to touch the Russians who are resting in the Middle Land. ”You will be pleased to know about this, how nice it is for Russians to learn now about what is happening in Kiev and about the possibilities of existing players.
  • f-eder-al
    f-eder-al 2 February 2014 10: 33
    +3
    I can't understand our passive position! No, of course we are "bending" our line at the diplomatic level, and we can also fork out (we offered Ukraine more favorable conditions than the entire European Union put together). So INTO (a citizen of the Promised Land would say), that's all? ... Why not expand the scope of an asymmetric response to the West? Moreover, it will be relatively inexpensive ... Well, a little housing and communal services and food will rise in price, so we are already accustomed to this. And then the money would go not only into someone's pockets, but also for a good cause (in the long term). Look at the amerikosov - in spite of their financial problems they invest wherever they go (Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Iran, other, less voiced countries in Africa and Asia, the same Georgia) ... And what - according to Zadornov, are they so stupid? No! They reckon, and by the way, not unreasonably, to get something from this. Are we worse? Why don't we create our own anti-alqaeda or the prototype of the mythical "White Arrow", a kind of Robin Hoods who save the world from globalists, fascists, lgbt-schnicks and any other evil spirits? Let them "kill" separatists, such as Udugov, deal with the fascists in Russia and with the Benders in Ukraine, take responsibility for the murder of the instigator of the third world war McCain or the decrepit Russophobe Brzezinski ... At the same time, our special services need to offer their help (useless - like the States vs Alkaida) in the fight against these "outrageous". I don't think it's worth talking about the fact that you can come up with dozens of asymmetric schemes and not very expensive, but no less effective. The question is, does any of those in power need this? ........
  • Name
    Name 2 February 2014 11: 05
    +4
    Apparently, the patience of the Russian Foreign Minister ends:“Why can’t you hear the condemning voices against those who still seize and hold administrative buildings, attack police, set fire to police, make racist, anti-Semitic statements, Nazi slogans? Why do many prominent European politicians practically encourage such actions, although at home they immediately and harshly suppress any such deviations from the letter of the law? ”..“What would be the reaction on the part of the European Union if members of the Russian government began to openly express support, including their personal presence, to rioters in London, Paris or Hamburg?”- the head of the Russian foreign ministry wondered. He drew a parallel between the support of Western protesters in Kiev and the hypothetical support of Russia for political demonstrations in some European capital..see https://inotv.rt.com/2014-02-01/Glava-MID-RF-obvinil-ES
  • alone
    alone 2 February 2014 11: 27
    -1
    Maidan, Maidan! I'm tired of reading the same thing five times every day! as if nothing more interesting is happening in the world. It’s really not clear.
    an ordinary struggle for power, moreover, in a mutual relationship with dirty methods.

    To raise the country, we need to work. To win the country over to our side, tanks are not needed. Otherwise, I see some have already gathered in Berlin)))
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 2 February 2014 15: 08
      +4
      Tired of it? Do not read!
      Your position is "my house is on the edge", the main thing is to work, and for whom, to the light.
      Only now it may happen that the people will not have this work, only migrant workers over the hill. Therefore, do not troll here, hamster.
      1. alone
        alone 2 February 2014 22: 08
        0
        Quote: PENZYAC
        Your position is "my house is on the edge", the main thing is to work, and for whom,

        First of all, do not poke. I see you are not accustomed to politeness.
        You have to work for yourself and for yourself. As for trolling, I have never dealt with this business, here I express my opinion and nothing more. As for the hamster, I would answer you, but I just do not want to be on a par with you.
  • homosum20
    homosum20 2 February 2014 11: 36
    +2
    As you look at what the "swamp intelligentsia" was preparing for us, the hand, just like Goebbels, "reaches for the pistol."
  • sanitarlesa
    sanitarlesa 2 February 2014 11: 49
    +3
    don’t flatter yourself if you groped for Yanukovych’s eggs .. most likely all of this is Putin’s fists who hold these very eggs
  • borys
    borys 2 February 2014 11: 56
    +4
    In its current form, Ukraine, Belarus and Russia are three people with disabilities (in
    or less). Only on condition of RECONNECTION can it form
    to develop a healthy strong organism.
  • tennis
    tennis 2 February 2014 12: 01
    +7
    Such is the opposition ...
  • Shellback
    Shellback 2 February 2014 12: 23
    +14
    In no case should a civil war in Ukraine be allowed, as well as the dismemberment of the state, this will be a geopolitical catastrophe in the post-Soviet space, which is aimed primarily at Russia. If Russia lies down, the planet of the khan. It is the only country on Earth that openly opposes the West, Anglo-Saxon global hegemony and is capable of destroying it physically. The latter fact especially haunts the Anglo-Saxons. They know that in an open confrontation we cannot be overcome, history has taught them this, so they found a "weak link" - Ukraine. We decided to start with her. All over the world, Russia is personified as the spiritual core of real human values. The last hope, if you will. My personal opinion is that everything that is happening now in Ukraine is the beginning of irreversible global events that will change the world beyond recognition. But whether these events will be in our favor or vice versa depends on the political leadership of Russia, and specifically on Putin. It depends on which line of struggle for Ukraine he chooses. Nothing depends on the leadership of Ukraine. Putin has a unique historical chance to mobilize the Slavic peoples, awaken historical codes, a matrix and finally bring people out of hibernation in the face of a universal threat. But whether Putin will do it is unknown. We can only say for sure that Putin will not give up Ukraine to be torn apart. No one will ever forgive him for this, neither in Russia nor abroad. soldier
  • vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 2 February 2014 12: 31
    +3
    who will undertake to completely exclude the option of humanitarian action with the participation of the American army in Ukraine?


    There was a similar topic, the Americans will not climb, although those who like to rattle their weapons, they know where the red line goes, and the situation in Georgia and Syria proves this.
  • loginovich
    loginovich 2 February 2014 12: 50
    +4
    I'm afraid for a long time the US will carry chestnuts with the wrong hands
    1. edeligor
      edeligor 2 February 2014 18: 31
      +2
      Quote: loginovich
      I'm afraid for a long time the US will carry chestnuts with the wrong hands

      This is their style, in this overseas democrats have reached the pinnacle of skill.
  • vvp2412
    vvp2412 2 February 2014 13: 15
    -3
    There is a proposal to administrators - those who vote on such articles - to ban forever. Such articles telling about the real situation, without washing their eyes with husks - this is a litmus paper for the fifth column!

    Ban traitors forever by ip-address!
    1. alone
      alone 2 February 2014 13: 23
      +5
      I did not vote on this article at all, but I think your proposal is wrong. People are not robots, they are not preprogrammed for a single thought. Someone may like the article, and some may not. Here is a forum, not a party meeting.

      And dividing people for their thoughts into traitors and their own is ridiculous. You are like L.Z. Mehlis, you see traitors everywhere. It is still unknown who and how will behave under force majeure. As practice shows, most of the bawlers at the end are the most real traitors))
    2. pl675
      pl675 2 February 2014 14: 18
      +2
      Ban traitors forever by ip-address!


      being next to those who loudly shout about morality, it is advisable to keep your hands in your pockets.
  • archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 2 February 2014 14: 09
    +3
    [quote = lonely] I didn’t vote at all about this article, but I think your proposal is wrong. People are not robots, they are not programmed under a single thought. Someone might like the article, but some might not. Here is a forum, not a party meeting.
    I support, plus you hi here is really a forum, not a meeting, all the more a party sad
  • nikolaev
    nikolaev 2 February 2014 14: 59
    +3
    If you look at the links below, then it is perfectly legal to ask: "Why is the world community not taking any measures against the United States? After all, all the evil in the world comes from there! Including the Maidan! Including corruption in Ukraine is a consequence US policy! "


    Maidan lies: makeup of Mikhailo Garilyuk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8t3FMrUFuU8

    Who bought the Maidan?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEGdpGJ8_mM



    Gulf metastases. Part 9-1
    Posted On Site: Admin. Date: February 1, 2014. Topic Cognitive
    “FloridaOilSpillLaw.com”, USA
    Link to the original
    http://www.russiapost.su/archives/14893


    Syria struggles with US democratization
    What has turned into a recently blooming country!
    Syria tank attack on terrorists
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYYWvTp2oC4#t=72

    Independent referendum on independence held in Gagauzia
    Posted On Site: Admin. Date: February 2, 2014. News section
    http://www.russiapost.su/archives/14987
    1. Shellback
      Shellback 2 February 2014 15: 05
      +2
      Quote: nikolaev
      If you look at the links below, it is perfectly legitimate to ask: "Why is the world community not taking any measures against the United States?"

      Because the United States is that notorious world community. They monopolized the right to speak on behalf of the whole world, just like the fascists on the Maidan speak ostensibly on behalf of all of Ukraine. Only the strong have the right to vote in this world.
    2. O_RUS
      O_RUS 2 February 2014 22: 18
      +2
      Quote: nikolaev
      and corruption in Ukraine is a consequence of US policy! "


      Well, why are you so fucked up? wassat Erase until no one has seen. Indeed, Moscow was accused of corruption in Ukraine.

      Are you looking for those to blame for your illiteracy, corruption and theft? Who is next?
  • tajrov73
    tajrov73 2 February 2014 15: 41
    +1
    I think everything will be fine if Putin does not hold his tail
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  • Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 2 February 2014 16: 04
    +6
    how stsuka infuriates me the entire world political orchestra (((-
    some, being in NATO, absolutely lost their sovereignty and all that they can is to yank a giant from the armpit, and yap in unison.
    the yellow ones are silent while waiting, the fellow-countrymen will be given them for silence from the Russian Federation if Che (if we stupidly disintegrate without armageddon), does China itself not understand ?? He is for a snack ...
    okay Africa (savages), but here is South America ((((, well, you can give a voice - how do they see all that shit that spreads over the ears of our civilization from the Anglo-Saxons and with them?
    Yanukovych (((Well, what are you waiting for, huh ?? Well, okay, if Putin asked you not to drive the fascist through the pipes into the sump, but it’s so difficult to stop the supply of the Maidan ???
    In general, they got ALL stsuka (((, Anglo-Saxons curse the living and spit on your graves ...
    Lord save America, calm her down and do not let her rise, she lies in a coffin, calmly let that coffin go to the crematorium
  • Sid.74
    Sid.74 2 February 2014 16: 09
    +1
    Ivan Tsarevich-I'm going to you!
  • shelva
    shelva 2 February 2014 16: 44
    +2
    I am very pleased with the fact that the Americans also "got stuck" with Ukraine. Because of this alone, Yanukovych needs to withstand - to throw the Americans is a sacred cause.
  • jjj
    jjj 2 February 2014 17: 58
    +3
    In the eastern regions of Ukraine, tanks and tracked transporters were withdrawn. The troops are also withdrawn from the barracks. The official explanation - for cleaning the fallen snow and establishing transport links
  • kush62
    kush62 2 February 2014 18: 27
    +3
    It has already become a "good" tradition to expect another dirty trick from our overseas "friends" for each Olympiad. It remains to wait a little and we will see everything: our Olympic Games are some kind of milestone or just optimistic expectations.
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 2 February 2014 18: 37
    +5
    Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria ... Washington, as a rule, uses a phased scenario of intervention. First, the country's leader is subject to international obstruction, then the country itself for the "sins" of the leader receives an economic embargo, at the same time, chaos is inspired in its territories, finally, through NATO, a proposal is made to introduce peacekeepers in order to end the suffering of citizens ...

    The NATO invaders have not yet brought happiness and peace to anyone. Banderlog urgently needs to be buried.
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 2 February 2014 20: 14
      +1
      these are not stupid people, they are traitors! And the traitor has one end, aspen ...
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  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 2 February 2014 20: 13
    +5
    No comments:
    The opposition has agreed with the US Secretary of State on steps to overcome the crisis in Ukraine. According to the head of the Batkivshchyna party, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the plan approved by John Kerry includes forming a government from representatives of the opposition, carrying out constitutional reform and the subsequent provision of a package of economic assistance from the United States, the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.
    Not a word about the upcoming democratic elections and the government of national unity. The right of the Ukrainian people to independently choose the path of development without outside advice boiled down to the fact that a group of oppositionists representing a minority in parliament announced that they would now rule the state according to a plan issued from Washington and Brussels. A couple of oppositionists, one of whom, Vitali Klitschko, pays taxes not at home, but in the United States, sold Ukraine's sovereignty in the hope of future American aid.
    Even before the start of negotiations with the Secretary of State, Yatsenyuk stated that the West should draw up a Marshall plan for Kiev. This plan, if we recall history, was prepared by the Americans after the Second World War for the defeated, devastated Germany. But an independent, economically successful 45-million-strong Ukraine has not lost a war to anyone. Nevertheless, the liberals voluntarily offer Washington to buy up the country, turning it de facto into a new state of the United States for many decades ahead. The Secretary of State did not refuse such a generous offer of the Ukrainian opposition made in Munich. The coup d'etat in Ukraine, which supporters of several pro-European parties tried to carry out with the support of fascist nationalists, Kerry, in the best traditions of American political shows, called "the struggle of the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians for the democratic future of ... Europe."
    Now, with the filing of Ukrainian liberals, Washington has a unique chance to subjugate Ukraine by planting a government dependent on American interests in Kiev. And the liberals have signed up to this plan of the "Munich agreement." Next week a representative delegation from the European Union and the United States will arrive in Kiev. Among the iconic figures is Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. The same Nuland who, together with the American ambassador in Kiev, handed out cookies to law enforcement officers. The State Department website reports that Nuland will meet with representatives of the government, opposition, civil society, business leaders to urge them to agree on a new government and develop an action plan. The US Deputy Foreign Secretary is heading to the capital of a foreign country to form a cabinet that suits the White House, and does not hide the task ahead of her. There is no one in Ukraine to stop this stubborn lady, to explain to her that the country is not a colony, where you can come whenever you want. EU High Representative Catherine Ashton and European Commissioner Stefan Füle gathered in Ukraine next week. This is the same Fule who was responsible for the association agreement between Ukraine and the European Union and threatened Kiev with sanctions if it refused to sign an economically unprofitable agreement. These gentlemen were invited to Ukraine by the opposition, but the authorities were not invited. However, such trifles of European high-ranking functionaries do not bother - after all, in Kiev they feel like masters at home.
  • shelva
    shelva 2 February 2014 20: 33
    +2
    At the expense of the 9th century, I doubt that the Slavs settled in these places even when the Indo-Europeans left Europe for the East. They had self-names: glade, Drevlyane, Krivichi, Vyatichi and others.
    No matter how hard the Germans, Celts and Romans tried to shove their worldviews into the Slavic brain - this will not work - a different mentality, no worse.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 3 February 2014 10: 16
      0
      This is if without emotion. And if according to personal sensations (the brain finds arguments), in any case it is better.
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