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Hung billions for ukraine

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After the Brussels speech by Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which he declared that Russia would continue to provide financial and economic assistance to Ukraine, even if the composition of the Ukrainian government seriously changed, many people in Russia and Ukraine were puzzled. If you believe President Putin’s words, the Russian leadership today doesn’t really care what forces are at the Ukrainian helm, and what policies these forces implement: there will be a pro-Russian - there will be loans and low gas prices, there will be an anti-Russian - everything will be the same ... then, excuse me, a strange position, giving away some fatalism, or something ... "What the will, that bondage is all one ..." Could a state like the Russian Federation allow today to have such an unintelligible position that, in all likelihood, has very much attracted What about the West? Of course not! If you allow yourself this point of view, then in the future it will be extremely foolish to look for those guilty of what is happening (and may still happen) in Ukraine. In general, the words of Vladimir Putin, people who are frankly worried about the future of the fraternal state (and I allow myself to suggest that the overwhelming majority of them are in Russia), are clearly not pleased.


Apparently, realizing that in Brussels he said something, to put it mildly, not that (well, or simply using the postulate actively promoted by the West itself: we say one thing - we do another), Vladimir Putin decided to somewhat transform what was already said in Russia. Transformation happened fast enough. And now, first, the Russian government’s chairman, Dmitry Medvedev, “explained” to the head of state that Ukraine, even after lowering gas prices and a number of credit concessions, continues to accumulate debts, and then, “after some discussion, our tandem” concluded that sending billions (in dollars) of credit tranches to neighbors today is somehow unjustified. The final idea was formulated by Dmitry Medvedev:

Understanding the need to fulfill all the agreements, we must do this meaningfully, and meaningfully it can only be done when we understand what the government will be like, who will work there, and what rules they will follow.


In other words, the Russian authorities decided to temporarily suspend the receipt of tranches to Ukraine in order to wait for, and who will replace Mykola Azarov as the Ukrainian prime minister. And such a decision already looks much more justified than the words that, they say, we will give the money to everyone, despite their political views and economic potentials — at least for Tyagnibok ...

Immediately after the decision was taken to suspend the transfer of the next tranche (2 billion dollars from 15-ti) messages came in the form of certain aspirations from Kiev. Acting Chairman of the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers Serhiy Arbuzov, who, by the way, remained virtually the only “capable” legitimate “pilot” of the liner named “Ukraine” after leaving for the hospital, Viktor Yanukovych, said that Kiev expects from Russia that very soon 2 billionth tranche , the transfer of which to Ukraine was suspended.

Hung billions for ukraine

Sergey Arbuzov


Well, well - to understand Sergey Arbuzov’s wish, in principle, is not difficult. It’s not at all calm under the windows, in the western regions there is an unconstitutional coup, global financial agencies are sleeping and they see a decline in Ukraine’s credit ratings and its default by default, and then Viktor Fedorovich was a bit addicted. In general, the acting Prime Minister of Ukraine, who was actually abandoned (by virtue of his position as First Deputy Prime Minister), I'm sorry, naked at the embrasure, can hardly be envied today. The only thing that can save the legitimate power in Ukraine and will not allow this country to fall apart according to the Yugoslav example with a bloody script and afterword is the firm position and help of Russia. And the help is not anyhow to whom, not to the henchmen of Western "ideals" who have already shown their "hare", speaking under the Nazi banners, but help exclusively to the legitimate authorities. How pro-Russian the current legitimate authorities of Ukraine are is a separate question ... The same separate question: how can a pro-Russian representative of these authorities (Acting Prime Minister), Mr. Arbuzov, be considered in such a situation?

Sergey Arbuzov is a very original person. He is a native of Donbass, but at one time he actively supported the “orange movement” in Ukraine, joining the party “Our Ukraine”, which during the years of “heyday” was headed by Viktor Yushchenko. In 2006, together with the Orange Party, he tried to break into the Donetsk Regional Council, but failed miserably without gaining 3% of the votes.

After that, Mr. Arbuzov’s political sympathies changed somewhat, or rather, his political platform turned out to be obscured by economic activity. Serhiy Arbuzov "headlong" went into banking, and, by an interesting coincidence, he ended up in the so-called (called in Ukraine) Yanukovych "family". Arbuzov got on the post of chairman of the board of the UBR (All-Ukrainian Development Bank), which, according to some sources, is owned by the son of the Ukrainian president, Alexander Yanukovich. In December, 2010 Arbuzov became head of the National Bank of Ukraine, and in 2012, he became deputy prime minister of the government.

Such a person hopes to receive the next Russian tranche, which (tranche) on the one hand can help the Ukrainian economy to stay afloat, but on the other hand can become a tasty morsel for those who, through the “club” with the active patting on the shoulder, break to power in Ukraine. For the second, the Russian tranches will be a real gift "from the enemy" - a sort of "lifting", which, of course, no one will return ...

In this regard, the Russian authorities would have to tighten the position by announcing possible sanctions against individuals who are now organizing and sponsoring measures to seize power in Ukraine. Trying to "like" the West today is simply counterproductive, since what is happening on the territory of Ukraine today is a clear anti-Russian front. If the threat is not stopped at least economically, if financial guarantees are not given exclusively to pro-Russian political forces in Ukraine, then ultimately this state can expect the most unenviable scenario, which, for example, the Serbs can tell a lot ...
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  1. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 31 January 2014 08: 27
    +67
    Do not give money to Ukraine!

    Until you can figure it out with Bandera!
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 31 January 2014 08: 37
      +44
      wink Ukraine’s money should be given only to deal with Banderovites, after providing a “general cleaning” plan.
      1. Foxmara
        Foxmara 31 January 2014 12: 41
        +14
        Why a plan? They can be cleaned in one day if desired. That's when the desire is formed and expressed in the will - then give money.
        The problem is that with the introduction of a state of emergency, all elites lose money (nationalization of banks, if I remember correctly), and lose their hard-earned money ... in short, it may be necessary to bring in the wake of the Maidan their politicians who will clean and work in the right way. No matter which way the new government comes, it must clean the Maidan, otherwise all fluttering is useless.
        There is of course a faint hope that Yanukovych will decide that the country is more expensive than money, but it is so weak ..
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 1 February 2014 09: 40
          0
          Quote: Foxmara
          it may be necessary to bring in the wake of the Maidan their politicians who will clean and work in the right way.

          The trouble is that their politicians are the same as theirs. One field of berries.
      2. wow
        wow 1 February 2014 01: 39
        +5
        Nope! Nobody will deal with anyone (anything). Russian money will be stolen (as is customary "in Ukraine"), i.e. those who are given "for ukrainskago naroda", and then spit in RUSSIA's face !!!! THINK, gentlemen RUSSIANS, to whom you give this money. Think again!
        1. salah
          salah 3 February 2014 11: 55
          +1
          Don't call us "Russians", we are RUSSIAN !!!
      3. major1976
        major1976 1 February 2014 16: 23
        +2
        In general, don’t give money! People themselves are poor! Crisis + unemployment! I don’t want to pay my hard-earned money to Ukraine when they raise energy prices! Let them take care of the porridge yourself and make it! Here they decide with their power, turn to face the brothers and train to the enemies, then we decide! And in general, I am waiting for changes in Uraine in the form of decay !!!
        1. lg41
          lg41 5 February 2014 14: 16
          0
          The division of Ukraine into several parts is one of the stages of the destruction of Slavic states by states
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 31 January 2014 08: 43
      +26
      he said that Russia will continue to provide financial and economic assistance to Ukraine
      In general, I consider this statement by Putin as a firm and subtle hint to everyone that Russia will not surrender Ukraine! AND WILL GO FOR EVERYTHING .. to preserve the integrity of Ukraine and good neighborly relations.
      1. Canep
        Canep 31 January 2014 08: 59
        +34
        Quote: MIKHAN
        In general, I consider this statement by Putin as a firm and subtle hint to everyone that Russia will not surrender Ukraine! AND WILL GO FOR EVERYTHING.

        All the same, do not give money. True, Russia has already suspended payments until a new government is formed. Yes, and at the frontier. crossings resumed the practice of total inspection, with the unloading of goods. Truckers really do not envy. But I think it will not be very good if Tyagnibok, with Russian money, begins to build concentration camps for a final solution of the Muscovite issue in Ukraine. I think the gas discount must be canceled, they still do not pay.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 31 January 2014 11: 04
          +16
          Quote: Canep
          All the same, do not give money.

          Firstly, there are no 15 billions at all. They promised to allocate this money, and how this loan will be realized will depend on the symmetric concessions of Ukraine. In the meantime, in order to stabilize allocated - 3 billion dollars. This is not a gift to Ukraine, this is the amount spent on the purchase of Ukrainian bonds. As you know, everyone saves money, and so that inflation does not eat them up, they are not kept in rubles printed by the Russian Central Bank itself, but they are bought on them by bonds of foreign states, which is generally logical. So do ALL countries that form such a "little egg." We can print our money. Just indicated 3 billion transferred from one account to another. Now about the so-called symmetric concessions: we read in the agreements of December 17 2013 of the year. - “Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine on joint actions to organize the construction of a transport passage through the Kerch Strait”;
          - “An agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine on the implementation of government support for the resumption of mass production of An-124 family aircraft with D-18T engines and their modifications.”
          That is, the Ukrainian side gives “the technological base, innovative component, documentation” for engines. Rossi, in turn, invests and organizes sales. This is a strategic deal to import technology into Russia and is expensive. Let me remind you in the agreement of all 14 points, so there is something to think about ...
          1. Alekseev
            Alekseev 31 January 2014 12: 12
            +16
            Quote: Tersky
            That is, the Ukrainian side gives “the technological base, innovative component, documentation” for engines. Rossi, in turn, invests and organizes sales. This is a strategic deal to import technology into Russia.

            Where in modern Ukraine technological base and innovative technologies? Or do they grow well over 20 years of industrial collapse?
            The remains of glorious deeds of the times of the USSR.
            What has grown there is clearly visible in the center of Kiev. And nothing more.
            And they give loans in order to more closely tie a close country to Russia economically, then it is not far from allied relations.
            Banderlog is either disconnected or transplanted an asset (this is only a few percent of all zapadentsev), because they go on crimes without hesitation.
            1. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 31 January 2014 17: 53
              +4
              Quote: Alekseev
              Where in modern Ukraine is the technological base and innovative technologies? Or do they grow well over 20 years of industrial collapse?
              The remains of glorious deeds of the times of the USSR.


              Do you know that all of our helicopters fly on Motor Sich engines? Yes, a lot of things remained from the time of the USSR that we are not able to produce yet ...
              1. Eugene
                Eugene 31 January 2014 18: 47
                +5
                Motor Sich so far ... And what kind of plant are being built near St. Petersburg? There they will produce engines. And they will entice specialists. Easy.
              2. Alekseev
                Alekseev 1 February 2014 15: 33
                +4
                Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                Do you know that all of our helicopters fly on Motor Sich engines?

                Do you know that helicopter engines were developed by Klimov Design Bureau in Russia? That's where the innovation is. Although serially during the USSR, the release was established in Zaporozhye. And at present they are doing it - why destroy the working established production?
                But, given all of us the well-known realities, a serial plant in Russia was built, and soon it will work at full capacity.
                And not at all "a lot of things remained from the times of the USSR that we are not yet able to produce ..."
                Everything (almost) about .... whether the hetmans during the time of independence.
            2. Ustas
              Ustas 1 February 2014 09: 46
              +2
              Quote: Alekseev
              Where in modern Ukraine is the technological base and innovative technologies? Or do they grow well during the 20 years of the collapse of industry? The remains of the glorious deeds of the times of the USSR. What has grown there is clearly visible in the center of Kiev.

              Nevertheless, they already agreed on the construction of a bridge across the Kerch Strait and started to implement the project. But they resisted for almost ten years.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 January 2014 14: 00
            +4
            Quote: Tersky
            and they buy foreign bonds on them, which is generally logical.

            For our part, this would be logical if these states were at least neutral. And now these are latent ill-wishers, most of them. And we, by investing in their economy, are financing actions against us. I wonder if the US and the EU are buying government bonds in Russia?
      2. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 31 January 2014 09: 22
        +4
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Generally consider this statement by Putin

        laughing laughing laughing
        Ridiculous ... Ridiculously and terribly ashamed of the representative of Russia (Putin), who claims to the whole world that the terms of the loan are not specified on the PAPER in the agreement, but (!!!) in WORDS laughing he and Azarov (it is a pity that "left", was sane), agreed on SOMETHING. Pla, gentlemen's agreements ... Like boys, in the yard, right? "We were promised." And he let out his eyes. request
        Then we won back, as the article says. So what? Bottom line: WHAT ARE YOU AGAIN M U T I T E ??

        Yanukovych is "sick" laughing
        Listen, this performance, already ... (some mats) ...

        I am very worried about Ukrainians ...

        And I "remember" neharashimi Khrushchev’s words ...

        Ukrainians, people ... hold on ...
        1. Fin
          Fin 31 January 2014 09: 40
          +20
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          It's funny, and terribly ashamed of the representative of Russia (Putin), who declares to the whole world that the credit conditions are not written on the PAPER, in the agreement, but (!!!) in WORDS they are with Azarov (it is a pity that they "left" , was sane), we agreed about SOMETHING. Plya, gentlemen's agreements ... Like boys, in the yard, right? "We were promised." And he let out his eyes.

          You flew from the moon. The conditions were not signed under the competent Yanyka and Azarov. And now situevina is developing differently. GDP did not think that he had no iron eggs. In your opinion, an interesting movie turns out: they yell at the knifes, they do everything against Russia, and we throw money to them. Can we still apologize that the money is not being transferred on time?
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 31 January 2014 10: 13
            +15
            Quote: Fin
            Can we still apologize that the money is not being transferred on time?

            Do not! Now all these ... they themselves will take on knives!

            The western regions of Ukraine, where the regional state administrations were seized, are subsidized, and in early February the first problems with non-payment of wages and social benefits will appear. Sociologist Yevgeny Kopatko stated this during a round table. According to him, the Lviv region is 60% subsidized from the budget, and other western regions of Ukraine also need help from the central government. “In a week, there will already be the first problems with non-payments in Western Ukraine. In general, Western Ukraine is more mobilized, and the East has not yet organized itself for confrontation with the protesters. , - said the sociologist. He predicted that in early February people who work in the service sector in Kiev and in the areas covered by the protests will feel a decrease in salaries.
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-137340.html
            1. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 31 January 2014 18: 02
              +3
              Quote: Egoza
              Fidget Today, 10:13 ↑
              Quote: Fin
              Can we still apologize that the money is not being transferred on time?
              Do not! Now all these ... they themselves will take on knives!
              ...

              Quote: Egoza
              "In a week there will already be the first problems with non-payments in Western Ukraine.

              There is a possibility that this will spur the protests of quite adequate people. Although what am I talking about? Adequate people had to roll all this scum for a long time into the asphalt ... The pro-Russian leader You urgently need ... There are no such people in mind?
            2. Name
              Name 1 February 2014 06: 25
              +4
              Quote: Egoza
              are subsidized, and in early February there will be the first problems with non-payment of wages and social benefits

              And Russia will be blamed for this ... laughing
            3. Anper
              Anper 1 February 2014 17: 37
              0
              So they already are. Salaries are given in pieces, in parts, with a delay.
        2. Toledo
          Toledo 31 January 2014 10: 56
          +12
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          ... Plya, gentlemen's agreements ... Like boys, in the yard, right? "We were promised." And he let out his eyes.
          Then we won back, as the article says. So what? Bottom line: WHAT ARE YOU AGAIN M U T AND T E ??????
          What kind of panic on the ship? An ordinary psychological trick: say one thing, do another. Or do you think that the President does not understand what everyone else understands?
        3. levandos
          levandos 31 January 2014 11: 56
          +9
          But doesn’t it happen by chance that Azarov left to return ...
          1. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... 31 January 2014 12: 12
            +14
            yes ... and preferably in 2015 ... For the presidential election ... The only adequacy was in the government.
            1. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 31 January 2014 18: 04
              +1
              Quote: infinite silence ...
              yes ... and preferably in 2015 ... For the presidential election ... The only adequacy was in the government.


              It's hard for me to judge, but, in my opinion, he is also "yours and ours" ...
              1. Genur
                Genur 31 January 2014 18: 29
                +1
                Or, you name, WHO - not yours and not ours?
                1. Semen Semyonitch
                  Semen Semyonitch 1 February 2014 10: 17
                  +1
                  Quote: Genur
                  Or, you name, WHO - not yours and not ours?


                  There are such ... But they will not be chosen.
          2. morpex
            morpex 31 January 2014 12: 40
            -5
            Quote: levandos
            But doesn’t it happen by chance that Azarov left to return ...

            May God save Ukraine from his return ... Amen.
            1. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 31 January 2014 18: 05
              0
              Quote: morpex
              Quote: levandos
              But doesn’t it happen by chance that Azarov left to return ...

              May God save Ukraine from his return ... Amen.


              Are there any worthy ones?
        4. morpex
          morpex 31 January 2014 12: 35
          +5
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          Ukrainians, people ... hold on ...

          That's for this bow to you hi
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          with Azarov (it is a pity that they "left", he was sane)

          Sane? !!! A man who, along with I Nukovich, plunged the country into the abyss, having plundered what was still remaining. All the budgets adopted by his government are eating budgets. He only did that he begged for money from the whole world. Yes, in addition the collapse of the entire medium-sized business. Kill me, but I do not recall in his actions any positive for Ukraine! What kind of sanity are you talking about?
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 31 January 2014 17: 56
            +8
            Quote: morpex
            I stepped the country into the abyss together with I Nukovich

            Quote: morpex
            the collapse of the whole medium business

            Quote: morpex
            but I do not recall in his actions any positive for Ukraine!

            Dear you are "ours" or "not ours".
            What happens to Ukraine is the result of a case NOT one pair of hands (Yanukovych) And in the aggregate of the previous Kravchuk, Kuchma and especially Mr. Yushchenko and Yulenka and all the convocations of the Verkhovna Rada.
            Ukraine is: A mixed republic (may also be called a semi-presidential, semi-parliamentary, presidential and parliamentary republic) is a form of government between the presidential and parliamentary republics. On the one hand, the parliament of the mixed republic has the right to pass a vote of no confidence in the government formed by the president. On the other hand, the president has the right to dissolve parliament and call early elections (in some countries, parliament cannot be dissolved within a constitutionally defined period).
            Quote: morpex
            Kill me

            Why do we need your blood on our hands?
            All "intrigued" people in Ukraine have and are profitable to sit on 2 chairs, namely between Gayrope and Russia.
            Now when it became obvious that Russia can independently fill all the gaps in the industry from an absurd partner, which is "sister", they decided to play the Bender card.
            In the fire, which is now actively fanning the mattress and the geyropa, everything that remains of the "square" will burn and the project Ukraine will dry up to the size painted in orange:
            1. O_RUS
              O_RUS 1 February 2014 14: 36
              +2
              Quote: Papakiko
              All "intrigued" people in Ukraine have and are profitable to sit on 2 chairs, namely between Gayrope and Russia.
              Now when it became obvious that Russia can independently fill all the gaps in the industry from an absurd partner, which is "sister", they decided to play the Bender card.


              sit on 2 chairs - Well, you know ... a Ukrainian has been practicing this since childhood. In the blood, this is the norm for the Ukrainian. And not when the Ukrainian does not recognize that this (sitting on 2 chairs) deviation

              thanks for the comment good
        5. bomg.77
          bomg.77 31 January 2014 13: 24
          +9
          Quote: Z.A.M.

          Yanukovych is "sick"
          Listen, this performance, already ... (some mats) ...
          Deputy hi So the crowd connects, which the audience has long been waiting for and demanding!
      3. Alekseev
        Alekseev 31 January 2014 12: 03
        +10
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Putin’s statement as a firm and subtle hint to everyone that Russia will not surrender Ukraine!

        Likely.
        The author of the article does not understand the apparent situation ... request
        What is Putin to do before the Olympics to counter-propaganda himself, to give a reason to howl to all the geyropeytsy and those who joined them on the topic that only the Russian Federation and personally the GDP didn’t let go of long-term accession to the EU, and even depresses ... racists and it hurts everywhere!
        But the problems are indicated in advance. The games in Sochi will end, Putin will say, we warned you, put up with it. Delay given? Yes. Did you give a loan? Yes ... We went to a meeting, what the hell is a trade war!
        And you can’t drive a herd of banderlogs into a stall. Successfully continue the collapse.
        But you still have to pay on bills, do this and that, "repent, then you will get a discount" yes
        And assistance to the anti-Bender (and, therefore, pro-Russian) forces should be provided "carefully, but strongly." wink ... The main thing is that these very forces "do not regret the belly."
      4. Letun
        Letun 31 January 2014 13: 45
        +11
        Quote: MIKHAN
        In general, I consider this statement by Putin as a firm and subtle hint to everyone that Russia will not surrender Ukraine! AND WILL GO FOR EVERYTHING .. to preserve the integrity of Ukraine and good neighborly relations.

        This is nonsense. Here is a common example: neighbors of alcoholics will run to you and beg for money for a meal for their young children. You will give, and they will drink and come again. As a result, the children will be hungry and you will be left without money. Do not return.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 31 January 2014 16: 31
          +5
          Quote: Letun
          Here is a common example: neighbors of alcoholics will run to you and beg for money for a meal for their young children. You will give, and they will drink and come again. Eventually ...

          As a result, usually such a show ends with a loss of rights to the occupied living space, poor alcoholic neighbors and their children.
          GDP is little like an altruist. Such an impression is a delicious bait that Ukraina with gusto swallowed.
          Now to hook and where will these non-existent get away.
          Refuse payments? You can say a lot, do ...
          And how do you imagine this in our completely money world?
          wink
      5. siberalt
        siberalt 31 January 2014 17: 51
        +5
        Whether Russia is giving up or not giving up to Ukraine is not the same reasoning. Preserving the integrity of Ukraine is a pledge to ensure the prevention of war between Russia and NATO (SGA) in the center of Europe between the East and West in Ukraine. Every time the world economic crisis was resolved by the same war. By changing its outfits, capitalism has not fundamentally changed, and the current situation is leading to war. First of all, between the EU and the SGA for sales markets, but a fuse is needed. This is what they are trying to activate in Ukraine. As for our help, it is more than pragmatic. There is nothing to cling to. In case of a peaceful outcome, in the event of a state bankruptcy - "miscarriage", we will be the first in line to receive compensation.
      6. siberalt
        siberalt 31 January 2014 17: 51
        +2
        Whether Russia is giving up or not giving up to Ukraine is not the same reasoning. Preserving the integrity of Ukraine is a pledge to ensure the prevention of war between Russia and NATO (SGA) in the center of Europe between the East and West in Ukraine. Every time the world economic crisis was resolved by the same war. By changing its outfits, capitalism has not fundamentally changed, and the current situation is leading to war. First of all, between the EU and the SGA for sales markets, but a fuse is needed. This is what they are trying to activate in Ukraine. As for our help, it is more than pragmatic. There is nothing to cling to. In case of a peaceful outcome, in the event of a state bankruptcy - "miscarriage", we will be the first in line to receive compensation.
      7. Vasek
        Vasek 31 January 2014 21: 25
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        In general, I consider this statement by Putin as a firm and subtle hint to everyone that Russia will not surrender Ukraine! AND WILL GO FOR EVERYTHING .. to preserve the integrity of Ukraine and good neighborly relations.

        With "integrity" - I'm not sure, although there is still a theoretical chance (if the army gets down to business).
        But with everything else - absolutely in solidarity!
        The potbelly stoves are climbing out of their way, provoking Russian intervention, and incomprehensible nonsense is being fulfilled by impotence: PACE resolution, for example.
        But Putin gives them fewer and fewer hooks, the enemy is nervous and makes mistakes. I think the denouement is not far, we will soon find out his master plan.
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      9. Stalker
        Stalker 4 February 2014 17: 56
        0
        Apparently, realizing that in Brussels he said something, to put it mildly, not that

        Is Vova getting old, Or got out of the geyropa so he started to make a reservation ???
    3. Orel
      Orel 31 January 2014 09: 01
      +7
      If you believe the words of President Putin, the Russian leadership today does not care what forces are in the Ukrainian helm and what policies these forces are implementing: there will be pro-Russian - there will be loans and low gas prices, there will be anti-Russian - everything will be the same ...


      I think that the author did not fully understand the situation. You cannot evaluate Putin's words taken out of context. He said everything was correct - "we will work with the new government." You will remember the situation a couple of months ago. Putin himself wanted to remove Azarov and appoint Arbuzov or Medvedchuk. In fact, Putin has achieved his goal, and masterfully. The whole world and the opposition are convinced that Azarov’s resignation is a loss to Russia, and Putin simply achieved his goal ...
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 31 January 2014 09: 47
        0
        Quote: Orel
        The whole world and the opposition are sure that the resignation of Azarov is Russia's loss, Putin just got his...

        Putin, this is not RUSSIA.
        I achieved something, for WHAT and WHO ????
        Putin - won, Russia - lost? How interesting...
        Or has Russia won? .. That is, Arbuzov is more "sane" than Azarov ??? Didn't notice ...
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      3. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 10: 16
        +4
        Quote: Orel
        You recall the situation a couple of months ago. Putin himself wanted to remove Azarov and appoint Arbuzov or Medvedchuk


        And it seems to me that all this is a PERFORMANCE. And the performance is secretly Directed by Yanyk and Azarych !!!!!!!!
        Putin was deciphered for a thought (or he understood) and he was indignant at such a PERFORMANCE as not an honest game! Bidding - who will give more? frank mockery of Russia for Russia is still forced to give more!
        And at the same time = nothing will not get and will not get at all! and should not count on anything because they see the state course! weight. And we should buy a ticket for them on the track and cover the clearing.
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 31 January 2014 12: 28
          +4
          Quote: nick 1 and 2
          the performance is secretly Directed by Yanyk and Azarych !!!!!!!!
          Putin decrypted for thought

          Here I’m not sure that Putin is worse than Yanek, who has written on his forehead, like on a monitor, about which he is currently thinking.
          1. varov14
            varov14 31 January 2014 12: 45
            -6
            Or maybe it's even simpler, one "galley slave" saves the personal money of another "galley slave" at the state expense, and the rest of the performance and the actors do not know what they are doing?
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          3. nickname 1 and 2
            nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 14: 05
            +1
            Quote: Sergh
            Here I’m not sure that Putin is worse than Yanek,


            so not a hint! The guys started a play that is so primitive that everyone does not believe that if THIS ADULT UNCLE shows, the play cannot be so primitive and, therefore, look for subtext!

            And until now, for example, Maidan is perceived as a serious matter. And THIS IS A PERFORMANCE!
    4. valerei
      valerei 31 January 2014 10: 42
      +7
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Do not give money to Ukraine!

      Schaz !! So they asked us! And what does the money have to do with it, although for Ukraine this is the most important thing, after all, the Banderaites, in fact, seized power and, it seems, the Kremlin does not know what to do with this fact. Again, a policy of non-intervention, as in Libya, Serbia, etc. Only this time it is Ukraine and it is beyond our threshold, and not in Africa. However, no one reads our comments, except for ourselves.
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      2. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 10: 52
        -1
        Quote: valerei
        Only this time it is Ukraine


        type: this is no longer a dead end! what was needed: and this is not a finger!
      3. tennis
        tennis 31 January 2014 11: 42
        +5
        Quote: valerei
        Schaz !! So they asked us! And what does the money have to do with it, although for Ukraine this is the most important thing, after all, the Banderaites, in fact, seized power and, it seems, the Kremlin does not know what to do with this fact. Again, a policy of non-intervention, as in Libya, Serbia, etc. Only this time it is Ukraine and it is beyond our threshold, and not in Africa. However, no one reads our comments, except for ourselves.


        That's right - the policy of non-interference. I already wrote once in my post that the West is rushing ahead and spitting on everyone, and Putin is like a parrot all his own - "this is an internal affair of Ukraine." The next statement - "we will fulfill our obligations under any government in Ukraine", here, as they say, it remains only to shrug our hands. Politics - "both ours and yours" and that "the sheep are safe and the wolves are fed" will not lead to anything good, and even more so to try to please the West everywhere. It is necessary to somehow decide on the chairs - for two or one. Although I must say I agree with Putin on many issues related to foreign policy, but sometimes this will give out ...
        1. Theophanes
          Theophanes 31 January 2014 17: 31
          +6
          I agree, the policy of non-interference is a blow and betrayal, first of all, to Russians in Ukraine and Russia's interests! Ukraine is not Libya and not Syria, but the border of Mother Russia. Or are we preparing a bridgehead for militants from Syria? A clear, understandable policy by Russia towards Ukraine and its integration will allow the pro-Russian forces of Ukraine to turn the tide of the fight. I’ll give it, or I won’t give it! We don’t arrange a bargain on the panel. even stupid people in the Pasesralnik. Therefore, the non-interference of death is like, my friend!
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 31 January 2014 18: 28
            +1
            Quote: Theophanes
            I agree, the policy of non-interference is a blow and betrayal, first of all, of Russians in Ukraine and Russia's interests!

            Hmm, what are you calling for?
            Quote: Theophanes
            I’ll give it, or I won’t give it!

            Confirmation of loan obligations, then transfer will .

            Now it sounded in the News, in Kiev it sounded from your army, something like _ The guard was tired.
    5. AVV
      AVV 31 January 2014 13: 14
      +3
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Do not give money to Ukraine!

      Until you can figure it out with Bandera!

      This is the most reasonable approach, otherwise brainless Maydanutny Ublyuda will come to power for our money!
    6. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 31 January 2014 15: 04
      +2
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Do not give money to Ukraine!

      Until you can figure it out with Bandera!


      Rather, Bendera’s deal with Ukraine. Given how flexible a member the government of the fraternal people presented, the people themselves are used purely in European traditions - through the anus.
    7. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 31 January 2014 15: 44
      +1
      Better to help people directly in the hands
    8. Jeglov
      Jeglov 31 January 2014 16: 05
      +5
      GDP, I must understand - power in Ukraine is shared by financial clans. The oligarchs are shorter. And a show program called Euromaidan is produced and coordinated by them. The general sponsor is certainly overseas, but the role of “owners, newspaper factories, steamboats” is key. It is necessary to cut off financial crunch in the right place and the enthusiasm of the masses to sharply decrease.
      Surprising cynicism of money bags. In pursuit of the extra “billionaire,” they are ready to overturn their own people into the abyss of civil war. Honestly, now I am sympathetic to the Bolsheviks, who mercilessly destroyed the bourgeoisie.
      If Volodya wants to restore order in Ukraine, he must work closely with our oligarchs. I'm sure he can.
      1. pl675
        pl675 31 January 2014 20: 23
        0
        Quote: Jeglov
        GDP, I must understand - power in Ukraine is shared by financial clans. The oligarchs are shorter. And a show program called Euromaidan is produced and coordinated by them. The general sponsor is certainly overseas, but the role of “owners, newspaper factories, steamboats” is key. It is necessary to cut off financial crunch in the right place and the enthusiasm of the masses to sharply decrease.
        Surprising cynicism of money bags. In pursuit of the extra “billionaire,” they are ready to overturn their own people into the abyss of civil war. Honestly, now I am sympathetic to the Bolsheviks, who mercilessly destroyed the bourgeoisie.
        If Volodya wants to restore order in Ukraine, he must work closely with our oligarchs. I'm sure he can.


        you go and morocco.
        at the Casablanca airport, you will be met by taxi drivers and happily taken to the "minimami" in the middle of the desert -
        - This is a party of regions that built a town there.
        palm trees, fountains, servants.
        - With this money, you can really hold a winter Olympics in Kherson.
        to my logical question, "why is it here?", they answered succinctly - "and no one is back at the shop."
        and yes - the son of the Yanuca is traditionally a brilliant businessman, like Matvienko's "half a glass".

        there you’re not so simple, with the cantanker you won’t understand who is fluffy.
  2. Berimor 2
    Berimor 2 31 January 2014 08: 27
    +10
    In this case, the rule of the bureaucrat is more relevant than ever before: "Each paper must lie down." Conclusion: bureaucracy is not always evil.
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    2. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: Berimor 2
      "Every paper should lie down."

      ..... pollen to fall!

      it is a rule, and maybe a law. And - the exact one!
  3. Igor39
    Igor39 31 January 2014 08: 34
    +17
    I think that in the near future Ukraine will pay off assets of defense plants and gas transportation systems, there will be no other options, Putin gave money for this business.
    1. a52333
      a52333 31 January 2014 09: 55
      +3
      In a bad situation, these plants may be in unfriendly territory
    2. morpex
      morpex 31 January 2014 12: 50
      +1
      Quote: Igor39
      I think that in the near future Ukraine will pay off assets of defense plants and gas transportation systems, there will be no other options, Putin gave money for this business.

      Exactly! They have already begun. The authorities have already decided to sell off Turboatom, Azovmash and the Odessa Port Plant. Http://hvylya.org/news/digest/vlast-reshila-rasprodat-turboatom-azovmash-i
      -odesskiy-priportovyiy-zavod.html
  4. oleko51081
    oleko51081 31 January 2014 08: 38
    +21
    They will not see us for giving them practically everything and stopping them, they just got used to how to receive tribute. The West gives them nothing, they love him.
  5. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 31 January 2014 08: 40
    +5
    Interestingly, but how many have already managed to transfer? Even 2 billion, as part of the tranche - a lot of money!
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 31 January 2014 09: 03
      +6
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Interestingly, but how many have already managed to transfer? Even 2 billion, as part of the tranche - a lot of money!

      three billion have already been transferred, two more in limbo.
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    3. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 10: 30
      +2
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Even 2 billion, as part of the tranche - a lot of money!


      and the fact that we regularly forgive debts (and not only Russia)


      Among the countries to which Russia forgives debts, there are mainly countries in Africa and the Middle East, as well as old comrades in the building of communism. Since 2000, Russia has forgiven its debts to Iraq (8 billion), Libya (4,5 billion), Vietnam (10 billion), Ethiopia (4 billion), Laos (0,7 billion), Mongolia (11 billion .), Syria (10 billion), Algeria (4,7 billion), Afghanistan (11 billion). Since 2008, we have become even more active in writing off the debts of African countries, and also spent about 50 million dollars on the World Bank Fund for the Poorest Countries, 42,9 million on the World Bank's program to improve the quality of education in developing countries and 100 million on to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, from which money goes mainly to sub-Saharan countries. In general, in terms of the ratio of "forgiven debts" to the level of GDP, Russia ranks first in the world, while its own external debt is growing. In the past few years, Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba have been added to the "forgiven" countries. Thus, we have written off 11 billion of old Soviet debts to North Korea, and 30 billion to Cuba, provided that the Cuban Aviation Corporation acquires Russian aircraft: three An-158 and Il-96-400, as well as two Tu-204s.

      more details: http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1156749/
  6. Arhj
    Arhj 31 January 2014 08: 41
    +13
    I think Putin announced the official position, which does not mean that there will be money. Officially, we don’t care who heads the government, but in fact the reason for the delay in assistance may be, for example, non-fulfillment of obligations on payments for gas or something else. Ukraine has few outstanding obligations?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 31 January 2014 08: 58
      +17
      Quote: Arhj
      , but in fact the reason for the delay in assistance may be, for example, non-fulfillment of obligations for settlements for gas or something else

      There are already 3 billion dollars of debt for gas there. The price has been reduced and there’s already nothing to pay Ukraine. Those 3 billion. What Russia has given this money is no longer, they went to pay debts on salaries of state employees and pensions. All of Ukraine’s treasury is empty. Golyak laughing
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 31 January 2014 09: 50
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        All the treasury of Ukraine is empty. Golyak


        ...... (mats here) ...

        А to which, actually, like this laughing to be happy?
        Eh ...рOMANOV ...
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        2. nickname 1 and 2
          nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 10: 40
          +1
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          And why, in fact, rejoice like this?


          Not joy, but a statement of what is happening: they got enough of it! clever up! etc.

          This is from the scope of: all the tears cried out is left to laugh!

          (I apologize, there was no comment to me)
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 31 January 2014 10: 54
          +3
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          ...... (mats here) ...

          Or you can still head against the wall wink
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          And why, in fact, rejoice like this?

          And what do I damn cry, or what? Or it will become easier from your mates in Ukraine. Although judging by your comments above, the mustache is gone. However, people like you constantly criticize, shout, swear, and when the situation is normalized you forget what you wrote.
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          Putin, this is not RUSSIA.
          I achieved something, for WHAT and WHO ????
          Putin - won, Russia - lost? How interesting...
          Or did Russia win?

          Did you understand what you wrote?
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 31 January 2014 08: 43
    +12
    Zapadentsev is very well supported by the West, support goes at all levels, they see her Yanek is practically paralyzed, he cannot make any clear decisions, in such a situation if they continue they win. Russia's position on non-interference contributes to this.
    But the pro-Russian southeast does not have such support; it does not have leaders for whom they would go; Yanek is not an option; he does not even think about people who choose him. Russia's position also does not provide grounds for optimism, a decrease in gas prices and loans for all does not contribute to the growth of pro-Russian sentiment.
    Assistance to the regions should be targeted.
    1. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 31 January 2014 09: 18
      +4
      Quote: Alex66
      Assistance to the regions should be targeted.

      I think so too. You can send money to your own, and let the zapadentsi paw.
      1. Slavon76
        Slavon76 31 January 2014 09: 51
        +4
        Quote: Sh.O.K.
        I think so too. You can send money to your own, and let the zapadentsi paw.

        Excuse me, who SPECIFICALLY send money to? In the recipient's column, write: "my own"? And under what guarantees?
        1. Alex66
          Alex66 31 January 2014 10: 57
          +2
          To send money just like the West sends it to Russia with grants for the development of cultural ties for the recreation of children in Russian camps, for the support of schools with teaching in Russian, patriotic, sports organizations ...
          1. ser 190
            ser 190 31 January 2014 15: 40
            +3
            HERE AND SEND YOURSELF !!!
  8. just exp
    just exp 31 January 2014 08: 44
    +15
    Yes, everything will be fine in Ukraine, because of that, Putin is calm as a boa constrictor, along the way it just opens up the West’s network in Ukraine, now Maidan is buzzing, his authorities are heating up with small concessions, the raguli think that they are winning (Azarov resigned), because squeeze a little more and that's it, victory. therefore, the West is now throwing all its forces into the Maidan, which in fact is not dangerous, it can be dispersed for a couple of hours if desired, and while they are buzzing now, the special services, even Maget and ours, are actively scorching all communications, supply channels, hidden moles, and sold bureaucrats and oligarchs.
    after the entire database for future cleanings is created, then they will give a command to overclock.
    1. Vladimir.z.
      Vladimir.z. 31 January 2014 09: 09
      +4
      Quote: just explo
      ... along the way here is just the disclosure of the network of the West in Ukraine ...


      And I would add - the activation of the Ukrainian special services went, or rather what was left of them ... So the media went about how the deputies of the American ambassador by text messages control the seizures of state institutions, deputies and "leaders" of the opposition ...
      In this regard, quickly give everything that was not worth the promise, it is necessary that Yanukovych and the company work more actively in the right direction.
      1. just exp
        just exp 31 January 2014 12: 48
        0
        IMHO, Yanyk already works for Russia, they tied him with everything that can be tied, but now he just plays such a role.
    2. ddmm09
      ddmm09 31 January 2014 11: 04
      0
      If it were as you wrote, then Ukraine will only win. I also assume that part of the processes in Ukraine are carried out in coordination with the leadership of the Russian Federation. I hope so.
      1. just exp
        just exp 31 January 2014 12: 49
        +2
        it would be foolish to think that Russia had not forgotten about Syria, and would immediately leave Ukraine’s native and neighbor without any help.
        there, special communications lines are probably already glowing from work.
    3. Dovmont
      Dovmont 31 January 2014 16: 29
      +1
      Eeeh! Your lips and honey to drink !!! I'm afraid that everything is far from being so ((((
    4. Theophanes
      Theophanes 31 January 2014 17: 44
      0
      God grant! Let your words be to God’s ears!
    5. Yuri Sev Caucasus
      Yuri Sev Caucasus 3 February 2014 21: 38
      0
      Your words to God’s ears !!! So that it was so! And then this incomprehensible action is already sickened!
  9. svskor80
    svskor80 31 January 2014 08: 46
    +12
    There was information 3 billion dollars transferred as early as December. Now I think it is not necessary to give, and there is a formal reason, we agreed with Azarov, but they excused me from that. So we will agree on specific dates with the new permanent Prime Minister. We do not live so richly to feed Bandera.
  10. Black
    Black 31 January 2014 08: 52
    +12
    Declaring that the money will go regardless of who is in Ukraine and will be in power, Putin sits in front of the West. I would like to believe that he, as a sambo wrestler, simply transfers the center of gravity lower .... for a throw.
    1. olviko
      olviko 31 January 2014 10: 19
      +5
      "Declaring that the money will go regardless of who is and will be in power in Ukraine, Putin squints before the West."

      Putin confirmed that Russia will work with any government, but made a reservation that taking into account the economic policy of Ukraine, which the parties agreed on earlier. In my opinion there is nowhere clearer. There will be a correct economic and domestic policy in Ukraine, there will be help. Regardless of the personalities, Azarov there or Arbuzov.
    2. just exp
      just exp 31 January 2014 12: 50
      0
      and what do you think he is so calm?
    3. Dovmont
      Dovmont 31 January 2014 16: 31
      -2
      No matter how much he shifts from such heavy loads!
  11. ATATA
    ATATA 31 January 2014 08: 52
    +6
    * fuck!
    I'm afraid for my relatives there ...
    I think by the summer Ukraine will be "hot" but not climatic.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 31 January 2014 09: 15
      +4
      Yes, everything will be fine ..! Crush these scum.
  12. Normal
    Normal 31 January 2014 08: 55
    +3
    Interestingly, this is only my impression after the announcement of the GDP that we are financing the Ukrainian association with the European Union? Of course, then our leadership slowed down. But then to whom and when to believe? Putin then or Medvedev now? Or is Medvedev an independent politician? I think by the summer with UkrAina clarity will come (I would like)
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 31 January 2014 09: 53
      0
      Quote: Normal
      Interesting, it's just me impression after the GDP statement, that we are financing the Ukrainian association with the European Union?


      Impression that THEY something again Muddy!!!
    2. olviko
      olviko 31 January 2014 10: 09
      +3
      "Or is Medvedev an independent politician?"
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 31 January 2014 09: 00
    +9
    well, or simply using the postulate actively promoted by the West itself: we say one thing - we do another),
    This is what GDP will do. especially the Olympics, why now homosexuals to excite. That's right, let it scratch turnips.
    1. olviko
      olviko 31 January 2014 10: 54
      +9
      "This is what VVP will do. All the more so, the Olympics, why should we excite homosexuals now?"

      That's right, in politics they often speak smoothly, using it as a cover for brute force actions. On the nose of the Olympics in Sochi, under it, the West is trying to give us a surprise, as with Georgia. Only now in Ukraine, to ignite a civil war here. Until February 7, it is important for Russia to drag the matter into a sluggish conflict. Yanukovych should sit until at least February 23, even on sick leave, at least on maternity. Although the question of the Olympics is probably important, of course it is important, but Ukraine is more important. The Olympics will be over in a month, and Ukraine will remain at hand forever. Moreover, Putin has already received what he wanted. Under the guise of protecting the Olympic facilities, the necessary engineering and military infrastructure was built in the region that is key for Russia.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 31 January 2014 11: 11
        +1
        Quote: olviko
        even in maternity.

        Pleased it would be interesting laughing
      2. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 31 January 2014 11: 49
        0
        Quote: olviko
        In addition, Putin has already received what he wanted.
        laughing

        Two Amer ships laughing in the Black Sea. Like, for "fighting terrorism-extremism" fellow

        And also, by sparrows, repeat can shoot guns ...
        Oh well...
        1. brainkiller
          brainkiller 31 January 2014 13: 20
          +1
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          And also, on sparrows, you can shoot from cannons ...
          Oh well...

          I believe this is transport, and if the contents of the holds are on the territory of Ukraine, bloody chaos can not be avoided.
  14. morpogr
    morpogr 31 January 2014 09: 00
    +15
    Money should be given only to enterprises that are in cooperation with Russia in the production of products primarily for the defense industry. And also to the eastern and southeastern regions that are oriented to Russia. All other cookies, especially subsidized western Ukraine, let their geyropa contain or learn to live within their means.
  15. Same lech
    Same lech 31 January 2014 09: 00
    +6
    For the second, the Russian tranches will become a real gift "from the enemy" - a kind of "lifting", which, of course, no one will return ...

    It’s great, of course, we grow our enemies with our own hands.
  16. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 31 January 2014 09: 22
    +8
    “To promise does not mean to marry.” Let's see what will happen after the “Olympiada Vladimirovna.” In my opinion, this is the very milestone.
  17. Freemason
    Freemason 31 January 2014 09: 24
    +3
    Quote: Canep
    Quote: MIKHAN
    In general, I consider this statement by Putin as a firm and subtle hint to everyone that Russia will not surrender Ukraine! AND WILL GO FOR EVERYTHING.

    All the same, do not give money. True, Russia has already suspended payments until a new government is formed. Yes, and at the frontier. crossings resumed the practice of total inspection, with the unloading of goods. Truckers really do not envy. But I think it will not be very good if Tyagnibok, with Russian money, begins to build concentration camps for a final solution of the Muscovite issue in Ukraine. I think the gas discount must be canceled, they still do not pay.

    I’ll clarify a little ...
    As for what V.V. Putin. This person speaks a lot, but also does a lot. It is interesting that it is not always clear why exactly "this" was done ... and why they did not do it the way "US" would like it. The phrase itself made both Europe and the West sway. Unrest, so to speak, went .. And Medvedev just smoothed the corners competently. Let me remind you once again what was said, said on the world stage.
    And about the pagran. inspections and crossing of transfer routes: Dalnoboi is a separate category of people. And the role of nationality and political affiliation does not always play there. The main thing is to be a man, otherwise it will come back to haunt the track and not sickly. The peasants will squeeze in both directions from both "Moscow" and "Kiev". and if they want, they will simply cut off the movement in both directions. It was like that already. The question is, how much patience is there?
  18. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 31 January 2014 09: 28
    +4
    from the Don.
    I watched how the GDP answered the question of money and lowering gas prices for Ukraine, and thought it was a double of the GDP, and Putin himself plays hockey in Sochi. Before that the answer was wild! How many years have been stealing our money, calling it almost enemies , lick the West a fight, but our rulers still can’t squeeze!
    1. just exp
      just exp 31 January 2014 12: 54
      +1
      so it is necessary to hand over all of Ukraine for a couple of hundred thousand Bandera? what would their bases be there, what would the remaining tens of millions of Ukrainians live in poverty in general, and from this by the way would rush to us.
      or it is better to help when necessary, and you look and Ukrainian engineers will work for the Russian defense industry, and the Nikolaev shipyards will build us a fleet.
      1. I think so
        I think so 31 January 2014 14: 17
        0
        Having given the Russian money to the same Banderaites, how do you imagine "not to surrender here Ukrainu"? The brain would be turned on at least sometimes ...
        1. just exp
          just exp 31 January 2014 19: 14
          +1
          Well, try turning it on and after turning it on, if possible, find in the text that the money will be given to Bandera.
        2. xan
          xan 31 January 2014 22: 05
          +1
          Quote: I think so
          Having given the Russian money to the same Banderaites, how do you imagine "not to surrender here Ukrainu"? The brain would be turned on at least sometimes ...

          The fact that the GDP team spoiled somewhere with the money - I personally do not consider this unscientific-sci-fi version in my opinion.
          And what can be done seriously with the economy of a country such as Ukraine for 15 megabytes? Only put on the counter, including the bander.
          And as for the give-not give-where they go without Russian gas, including the Europeans?
  19. awg75
    awg75 31 January 2014 09: 31
    +9
    I am categorically against feeding Bendera on our Russian money !! and if the people of Ukraine as the last herd looks at the Nazis and does nothing, then let someone else feed him
    1. uhjpysq1
      uhjpysq1 31 January 2014 10: 16
      +1
      Bandera also need to throw some money) and then drain this information into the press. bring a split in their ranks) let each other get wet)
  20. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 31 January 2014 09: 43
    +4
    I understand that the "tandem" played good and bad cops, and suckers in the EU were led to the words of GDP. This is what should have happened. The summit, in principle, was about nothing, Ukraine was not included in the agreed agenda. No documents were signed following the summit.
  21. Egoza
    Egoza 31 January 2014 09: 48
    +8
    Let's clarify. S. Arbuzov is now "temporary" and is unlikely to remain later. By the way, according to "some information" Channel 112 TV belongs to him, and you all know what it is, although both he and the legal owner refuse to do so. But Azarov left the premiership, but remained in politics (in the deputies of the PR) and he will still have his say. Poroshenko is very eager for power. Well, Russia has something to squeeze it, especially since Petya bought confectionery factories in the Russian Federation. The tranche has been suspended for now - excellent. Now the PR has something to squeeze the entire opposition. Well, later it will be seen "where to invest money." It seems to me that now Russia will look closely at "behavior" and, if elections are announced, it will invest money in those citizens who did not retreat at a difficult moment, were not afraid to resist, etc. Well, if there is a decision on federalization, then it is already clear to whom. February will decide everything! It seems so to me.
  22. saag
    saag 31 January 2014 10: 03
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Crush these scum.

    Who! Yanukovych is losing ground, Putin at the Russia-EU summit said that they will NEVER interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine, the Olympics again, who will push? In my opinion, there is simply no one, or rather who is, but no one needs to see this at the present time
  23. Boris55
    Boris55 31 January 2014 10: 04
    0
    Video topic:
    From 4:20 minutes: the conditions for granting a loan on "paper" were not fixed, there was a verbal agreement.

    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 31 January 2014 10: 49
      +3
      Quote: Boris55
      loan terms not recorded on "paper", was an oral arrangement.

      Plus to you! They persistently do not want to notice this!
      This makes no sense! And they position themselves (Putin and Medvedev) as lawyers !!! "We have agreed to." laughing With those whom ... ALREADY no. laughing

      Also, the IMF, Putin, it turns out - "the evil guy" laughing Everything, you understand, on PAPER, paints, "gets clever" ... laughing laughing laughing
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      2. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 11: 09
        +1
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        And they are positioning themselves (Putin and Medvedev) as lawyers !!!


        so what? TERMS AND CONDITIONS It is about the fact that in the usual practices in the West they require strict implementation of the TERMS OF DELIVERY!

        But Russia, rarely, makes such conditions with other countries.

        BUT! Putin at the very beginning of his decision said that WE DO NOT GIVE! THIS under debt documents! type: will not be able to pay ASSETS of Ukraine will become ASSETS of Russia!
      3. ed65b
        ed65b 31 January 2014 11: 15
        +4
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        Quote: Boris55
        loan terms not recorded on "paper", was an oral arrangement.

        Plus to you! They persistently do not want to notice this!
        This makes no sense! And they position themselves (Putin and Medvedev) as lawyers !!! "We have agreed to." laughing With those whom ... ALREADY no. laughing

        Also, the IMF, Putin, it turns out - "the evil guy" laughing Everything, you understand, on PAPER, paints, "gets clever" ... laughing laughing laughing

        you're not right. there are no clear conditions in the contract - that means you can change everything by the decision of the owner of the money in any direction and at any time. Putin did everything right.
  24. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 31 January 2014 10: 07
    +8
    Putin has never been a naive person. Do those who blame him now think that the United States beat one man in Syria and another man went to Brussels? So far, Putin has not made strategic mistakes since 2000, and God forbid, he will not.
    1. tennis
      tennis 31 January 2014 16: 34
      0
      Quote: Jurkovs
      So far, Putin has not made strategic mistakes since 2000


      What about Libya?
      1. A. Yaga
        A. Yaga 31 January 2014 18: 27
        0
        Quote: tennis
        Quote: Jurkovs
        So far, Putin has not made strategic mistakes since 2000


        What about Libya?

        Didn't Medvedev surrender Libya?
        1. tennis
          tennis 31 January 2014 19: 41
          -1
          Quote: A. Yaga
          Didn't Medvedev surrender Libya?


          Medvedev himself could not hand over anything, except for bottles.
      2. Cynic
        Cynic 31 January 2014 18: 33
        +2
        Quote: tennis
        What about Libya?

        And after Libya, DAM, at least to some extent a competitor to GDP?
        1. tennis
          tennis 31 January 2014 19: 48
          -1
          Quote: Cynic
          And after Libya, DAM, at least to some extent a competitor to GDP?


          And that before Libya he was a competitor?
  25. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 31 January 2014 10: 10
    +2
    Russia had to give good money now). keep its own. everything is better than lying in amer banks.
  26. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 31 January 2014 10: 12
    +8
    Buy Crimea. And Ukraine is good, and Crimeans joy.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 31 January 2014 18: 34
      0
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      Buy Crimea.

      Maybe this is what is going on.
      laughing
    2. Cristall
      Cristall 1 February 2014 15: 09
      +1
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      Buy Crimea. And Ukraine is good, and Crimeans joy.

      crazy, without the continental part there will be problems.
      Can’t you do it all? Only the verb does not encourage.
  27. ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 31 January 2014 10: 12
    +3
    Most likely, Yanukovych was completely leaked. Even if he remains in power until the election, he will not decide anything. Therefore, there is a risk of losing Ukraine completely and decisive action must be taken.
    - Therefore, all credit tranches must be suspended, or even canceled altogether.
    - Submit to the international arbitration court for non-payment for gas with compensation for material, moral damage and interest.
    - To cancel all long-term gas contracts, go into gas trading with Ukraine on the spot market, paid for the goods - received, did not pay - no goods.
    - To provide financial support to the southeastern region at the level of heads of regions, cities, and specific enterprises.
    - To seek permission from the oblast leaders to broadcast Russian radio and television channels on their territory, and to additionally buy the region’s media outlets that are possible for purchase.
    - Collect information troops from representatives of the Duma and Fed. meetings and send them to Ukraine, having previously provided them with the "correct" instructions on the benefits of friendship with Russia. Let them speak to miners, workers and other people. They will bring at least some benefit to the state, otherwise they have already sat too long.
    - Do not react to the howl of the Westerners, just ignore it. There is no business with Kiev, let them decide for themselves where they are, to the west or east.
    - To seek compromises with the regional oligarchs and explain the benefits and benefits of Russia's loyalty, it is possible to make proposals that they cannot refuse, Putin knows how to do it. Chubais to send to Odessa, even if he promises them the golden mountains from friendship with Russia for thousands of years in advance, he knows how to do it. And so forth. Something like this.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 31 January 2014 19: 03
      0
      Quote: ovgorskiy
      Most likely, Yanukovych was completely leaked.

      It is fundamentally impossible to do this.
      Whoever is hanged will not drown.
      Quote: ovgorskiy
      - Gather information troops from representatives of the Duma and the Fed. meetings and send them to Ukraine, pre-supplying them

      And they know how to use parachutes, maybe we will regret state property?
      laughing
    2. Cristall
      Cristall 1 February 2014 15: 11
      +1
      Quote: ovgorskiy
      Chubais to send to Odessa, even if he promises them the golden mountains from friendship with Russia for thousands of years in advance, he knows how to do it. And so forth. Something like this.

      that we all know what he can .. promise ...
      Do not Chubais ... better than the GDP itself)))
  28. T-73
    T-73 31 January 2014 10: 13
    +8
    Putin’s statement in Brussels really seemed very strange at first. Essentially nonsense. Really Putin blurted out without thinking? Perhaps of course. But upon closer inspection, it is hard to believe. We have already said above that we will work with the new government. Maybe this is another push to finally wake up the east of Ukraine? After all, the government can become not only fascist and pro-Western. Need a leader. If there is one in the east, Maidan can do stupid things in the form of an even greater confrontation with the authorities. Yanyk himself will not begin to disperse him, just as he will not introduce a state of emergency. He simply will not be allowed to do this by money clans. But if Maidan and Anti-Maidan clash, the situation will become transparent: who is who. Yanyk is likely to get sick even more. Perhaps inoperable and lethal. There should be enough forces in the east, no help. Just the same as the West does. And you need to achieve your goal, there is no choice. And then work with the new government formed by the East. And no contradiction. However, this is one of the versions. In addition to the ones already voiced above. Time will tell.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 31 January 2014 18: 39
      0
      Quote: T-73
      Perhaps inoperable and lethal.

      Nope.
      Rather, it is operatively relegated.
      Quote: T-73
      In fact, nonsense.

      It sounded after confirmation of obligations .
  29. Neophyte
    Neophyte 31 January 2014 10: 16
    +3
    It’s better to wait with the financial aid movement, and to activate leverage over Yanukovych.
    Arbuzov is a man of Yanukovych and he will not pass as a candidate, the opposition will kill.
  30. Stinger
    Stinger 31 January 2014 10: 21
    +2
    Hastened to GDP. It turns out as in that joke. We do not care what to advance to run, what to retreat to run. But this can be attributed to a stressful situation when the EU homosexuals piled on one and began to learn how to handle Ukraine. And in the case, the iPhone was right in this matter. Indeed, Bandera something to give money.
    1. just exp
      just exp 31 January 2014 12: 56
      +3
      he did not hasten anything, they play a game there, the price of which is all of Ukraine, or rather, its eastern part.
      and in the Kremlin they know what to do, even for such games, even 15 lard and the price of gas is a minor con, the issue price is a country with a budget of one hundred lard a year and in powerful defense plants.
  31. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 31 January 2014 10: 33
    +1
    Ukranians need help in any case. Let them ask. There not only Bandera live. And they will get help.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 31 January 2014 11: 24
      +1
      Quote: Leonid Khar
      Ukranians need help in any case. Let them ask.

      Here below my koment one already said thanks request
    2. creak
      creak 31 January 2014 13: 23
      +1
      In any case, helping Ukraine even the anti-Russian regime is no longer fatalism (the author), but masochism .... It may be better to help their citizens, for example, to treat their seriously ill children, they also ask for help, but they collect money for them for some reason, putting caps in a circle around TV in the newspapers ... Maybe playing your geopolitical games, we should not forget about ordinary people with their problems and sorrows ... To find money for such things in any case - to help the same Ukraine from year to year are ...
  32. Federal
    Federal 31 January 2014 10: 41
    +9
    Putin did not say nonsense, he could not say anything else, Medvedev just drew in, who immediately reminded about payments and debts for gas, the reaction of the leader smiled: "And how much have we given them already?"
    at a government meeting. Well, of course, like "The Tsar did not know," and here they told me ... This is Putin who counts every kopeck and declares billions of debts in aid to Ukraine, Belarus ...
    He could not say anything else, he needed Medvedev who reported the update of the news, well, like Ukraine, he still doesn’t pay, and you didn’t know this GDP before)))
    The sheer stupidity of allocating a loan to Ukraine, whose scam principle is laid in the foundation of its policy, prevents the GDP from returning to the hard language with an ultimatum which, by the way, worked the last time, breaking the association with the EU. Now Putin is making statements one more stupid than the other, and Medvedev was given the go-ahead on the sly to block borders and not give money, all right, but late tandem! your intelligence services are working badly ... You did not understand the essence of the situation, helping the enemy is stupidity, and helping Judas is double stupidity, no one will say thank you anyway ....
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 31 January 2014 10: 49
      +1
      Quote: Federal
      ... the reaction of the leader smiled: "And how much did we give them already?"
      Putin knows who and how much and to whom. It was voiced for the media - for us.

      Quote: Federal
      You do not understand the essence of the situation, helping the enemy is stupidity, and helping Judas is double stupidity
      I uploaded a video above, if you didn’t understand what Putin said from the 4 minute, I translate:
      The agreement on loans was verbal with Nazarov, there is no Nazarov - there are no agreements, and who will come new will see.
      And loans did not go directly, but through the mediation (shares) of Europe (what does this mean understandably?).
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 31 January 2014 11: 01
      +3
      Quote: Federal
      The sheer stupidity of allocating a loan to Ukraine, whose scam principle is laid in the foundation of its policy, prevents the GDP from returning to the hard language with an ultimatum which, by the way, worked the last time, breaking the association with the EU. Now Putin is making statements stupid than the other,

      You’ve been saved from default by this stupidity. Regarding the stupidity of Putin’s statement, take a look at the declarations of your government, from the series Dumb and Dumber. Putin will still play your maid and your power will be replayed from the EU and the USA.
      1. Federal
        Federal 31 January 2014 11: 52
        0
        it was not about the stupidity of Azarov or Yanukovych or who would beat anyone, but about the hanging billions from Putin, we are not giving out money to Russia, the question is why and not who is cooler, carefully read the title and essence of the article before comment
  33. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 31 January 2014 10: 45
    +4
    They mean "Russians for a knife", and we give them money? Why on earth? After all, if X gives money to Y, then he has the right to expect some kind of return, interest or political concessions, and so it turns out they gave money, but only in return " Glory to the Ukrainian heroes, glory! "To be honest, the songs of the Ukrainian nationalists are shouting to me, even if they are shouting in the toilet, but for my money, be so kind as to pursue a pro-Russian policy, and if you don’t like it, go to bow or to Frankfurt, where the Germans will have a good deal of you, but money will not be given, or in New York, where they will put onerous conditions, most likely they will not give money, but you will most likely become a Wall Street six anyway.
  34. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 31 January 2014 10: 58
    +7
    Putin is not stupid enough to just give out money ... Here geopolitics is involved ... And his statement is not just a blunder.! No wonder they are so afraid of him in the West and call him a "cunning beast"! Good luck with VVP in your difficult chess game!
  35. nemec55
    nemec55 31 January 2014 10: 59
    +3
    Now, if she had shown Catherine 2 to them, she would have shown Kuzkin’s mother to both the gayrope and fascist banderlogs.
  36. RUSS
    RUSS 31 January 2014 11: 15
    +8
    Rogozin to the point !!! laughing

    January 31 2014

    Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin invited US Secretary of State John Kerry to negotiate with Verka Serduchka on the sidelines of the Munich Conference

    “In Munich, US Secretary of State Kerry will discuss the situation in Ukraine with boxer Klitschko and singer Ruslana. Circus. We need Verka Serduchka love involve in negotiations. Her / his authoritative opinion should be heard by the White House and taken into account, ”Rogozin tweeted.

    Earlier it was reported that US Secretary of State John Kerry called the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 31 January 2014 11: 29
      +4
      Quote: RUSS
      “In Munich, US Secretary of State Kerry will discuss the situation in Ukraine with boxer Klitschko and singer Ruslana. Circus.

      No, the Americans do not change, as they were stupid and remain. They support those who can’t connect the two words, or I.I.O.T is the main criterion for joining the modern opposition laughing
  37. calocha
    calocha 31 January 2014 11: 17
    0
    Money must be given but under guarantees (assets) of factories in eastern Ukraine
  38. ed65b
    ed65b 31 January 2014 11: 22
    0
    On the third move, it turned out that Ostap plays eighteen Spanish parties. On the remaining boards, the Vasyukins used the obsolete, but true defense of Philidor.
    Putin has so
    Excuse me, comrade, I have all the moves recorded.
    has long been.
    1. Federal
      Federal 31 January 2014 11: 57
      +1
      it’s cool ....) I just surrender to me the GDP itself does not fully understand what is happening in this anarchy in Kiev now ... it is unlikely that it just reacts instinctively at the beginning, but this fact is somewhat belated, it only trusts intelligence intelligence from there and the reaction is slow. This is not always good, especially with a quick change of power and moods and forces, as in Ukraine
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 31 January 2014 13: 40
        +2
        Quote: Federal
        it’s cool ....) I just surrender to me the GDP itself does not fully understand what is happening in this anarchy in Kiev now ... it is unlikely that it just reacts instinctively at the beginning, but this fact is somewhat belated, it only trusts intelligence intelligence from there and the reaction is slow. This is not always good, especially with a quick change of power and moods and forces, as in Ukraine

        you need to react quickly during the war, as shown by the example of Georgia, but here it can be a little slower but the most important thing is correct. Although what happens behind the scenes, we certainly do not know. It's a pity.
        Someone minus correct on
      2. brainkiller
        brainkiller 31 January 2014 14: 06
        +6
        Quote: Federal
        Only surrender to me, the GDP itself does not fully understand what is happening in this anarchy in Kiev now ...

        perhaps, but the most correct and most important thing now in the GDP policy is that he does not take part in this, what is happening in Ukraine is the work of the Ukrainians themselves and the West, to which they are so eager.
        The very feeling that your country is on the verge of a civil war and that your children can be hit with a bayonet tomorrow, Bendera, I believe, will sober up anyone even in the conditions of info war.
        And how beautiful it is eh? "We will help you with money, and then yourself!" and didn’t leave and didn’t get caught in the Maidan kakahu - great!
        Choosing a policy is more correct than it was probably impossible now.
        When the Maidan was in its infancy, many of my acquaintances who spoke with us spoke in support of him, saying that friendship with the Russian Federation brought only decline, but the EU supposedly opens up new possibilities, ok! Now more and more often I hear opinions exactly the opposite.
        Not in vain, it was not in vain that the Maidan was not dispersed at once; it was not in vain that the Golden Eagle suffered losses. This time gave and gives the opportunity to go through the necessary evolution in the head of a Ukrainian, and see the real prospects of what will happen to their country if the Russian Federation turns its back on them ...
        ZY
        The fairest outcome if, after all, the most lazy (subsidized) and at the same time regions, radicalized by green papers, go to Europe, let them slurp their porridge.
  39. shark
    shark 31 January 2014 11: 30
    +3
    We need to pour in billions not in all of Ukraine, but exclusively in those industries and those areas that we need. Do not feed the bender. Only targeted assistance.
  40. mountain
    mountain 31 January 2014 11: 39
    +4
    Analyze the situation. In my opinion, so competently Russia has not yet pursued its policy. The whole west is furious with the Americans, but they fail to provoke wrong actions, but they gave us trump cards, long in advance. If we subsequently, we will apply the methods that are now acting in relation to an independent country, but who dares to reproach us with this later. Do not forget about the olympiad and how much is swollen in it, but, and after it I, I think everything will fall into place. And the policy and actions on the part of Russia will become clear that it is unlikely that anyone will have any arguments.
  41. yehat
    yehat 31 January 2014 11: 48
    +4
    I don’t think it’s time to recall the scenario of the partition of Czechoslovakia in the 6s, analyze the possible options and choose the right one. At the very least, it is necessary to abandon demagogy about Ukraine - the fraternal people. As already obvious, not everyone there considers themselves brothers. Therefore, it is necessary to state directly - we are concerned about territories with a significant density of the Russian population, or supporting Russian traditions. Yes, there is a risk of a breakaway of small and poor aggressively-minded territories, but in the end, will Russia not benefit from this?
    Galicia wants to live their own way? Great! Autonomy, the border between West and East Berlin, active financing of the adjacent territories so that they can see the difference and their budget at full self-sufficiency and forward with haste. when they get hungry and are asked to come back, dictate the terms and write down in the constitution if someone blathers - an electric chair and that it is accepted VOLUNTARY. Then the world will come
  42. 1961NNN
    1961NNN 31 January 2014 11: 53
    +2
    GDP said so because ahead of Sochi! Afraid of a boycott of the West! That's the whole story.
  43. Magyar
    Magyar 31 January 2014 11: 54
    +4
    Good afternoon everyone, frankly tired of already looking at this soap opera in Ukraine. The bad thing is that while providing financial assistance, we can’t take a firm stand in upholding our national interests in this regard, we need to learn from the West and the United States, these gentlemen will shake our hearts for what they are doing today and do it brazenly and do not care about democratic values, this is a branched cranberry called democracy only for suckers who believe in it. Twenty years in Ukraine, Russophobic treatment was carried out in the West, people were brainwashed to evaluate it excellently, listen to what the young people in Ukraine say, what else needs to be commented on. But in Russia, in front of us, we are wearing pink glasses with respect to this state, it seems to us that we are very much loved there, they just don’t say it out loud, a strong mistake. And if you give money, it is only fixing the arrangements that we want in exchange for this help. By and large, the site is called Military Review. I would like more specialized material. I think the professional audience will agree with me, it is much more interesting to discuss the characteristics of new and old products, tactical methods of work. Particularly interesting in this connection is the opinion of the warrior, on the other hand, there are enough Russian-speaking people in the American Army, and in the legion in France, and in the Bundeswehr. This will make communication more dynamic, because in a dispute the truth is born, who agree with me.
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 31 January 2014 12: 23
      +3
      Quote: Magyar
      By and large, the site is called Military Review. I would like more specialized material. I think the professional audience will agree with me, it is much more interesting to discuss the characteristics of new and old products, tactical methods of work. Particularly interesting in this connection is the opinion of the warrior, on the other hand, there are enough Russian-speaking people in the American Army, and in the legion in France, and in the Bundeswehr. This will make communication more dynamic, because in a dispute the truth is born, who agree with me.

      Good day Magyar! This question is more likely to the site administrators. I agree with you, but you can not go into the news and events sections or ignore what they are talking about. The same events are discussed and new topics appear (as in a chain reaction), but there are times when the theme of the event goes into discussions between knowledgeable people and it becomes interesting. Yours faithfully hi ! PS There are other sites and links that opponents link to ...
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    3. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 12: 54
      +3
      Quote: Magyar
      Military Review I would like more relevant material, I think the professional audience will agree with me, it is much more interesting to discuss the characteristics of new and old products, tactical methods of work. Particularly interesting in this connection is the opinion of the warrior, on the other hand, there are enough Russian-speaking people in the American Army, and in the legion in France, and in the Bundeswehr.


      And what topic does not suit you! Human soldier remains the most important component in the war! but doesn’t it smell like gunpowder?

      Yes, we have already been discussed here! brake does not - Secretly blab!
    4. ed65b
      ed65b 31 January 2014 13: 48
      +6
      Quote: Magyar
      . By and large, the site is called Military Review. I would like more specialized material. I think the professional audience will agree with me, it is much more interesting to discuss the characteristics of new and old products, tactical methods of work.

      As one of our comrade in the forum said, "geopolitics and about political topics are zapadlo for techies" so for those who like to discuss how a bullet flies and a projectile explodes, there are branches on which they develop their vigorous activity. For me and many others (I hope) what is happening in geopolitics is the most important. since the outcome of these battles will affect how the bullets will fly and the shells will explode and where.
  44. spirit
    spirit 31 January 2014 13: 34
    0
    Sergey Arbuzov is a very original person. He is a native of Donbass, but at one time he actively supported the “orange movement” in Ukraine, joining the party “Our Ukraine”, which during the years of “heyday” was headed by Viktor Yushchenko. In 2006, together with the Orange Party, he tried to break into the Donetsk Regional Council, but failed miserably without gaining 3% of the votes.

    After that, Mr. Arbuzov’s political sympathies changed somewhat, or rather, his political platform turned out to be obscured by economic activity. Serhiy Arbuzov "headlong" went into banking, and, by an interesting coincidence, he ended up in the so-called (called in Ukraine) Yanukovych "family". Arbuzov got on the post of chairman of the board of the UBR (All-Ukrainian Development Bank), which, according to some sources, is owned by the son of the Ukrainian president, Alexander Yanukovich. In December, 2010 Arbuzov became head of the National Bank of Ukraine, and in 2012, he became deputy prime minister of the government.


    HAH) Here it is the face of a True Political prostitute (although for a mani I think he will work as a simple prostitute) Who will make him give birth to a broader and thicker ass and he will bow to him) The Russian leadership loves such)) be you even a Westerner, even a Chechen terrorist, if you sell your mother for $ and will serve us, then you are our man))) good
  45. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 31 January 2014 13: 43
    +5
    Yeah, Putin took it and laid out from the rostrum what and how it will be done, it’s not at all clear how an adult can hysteria about a politician’s statement, only monitoring what’s going on will show what was planned and how, but there seems to be a plan, and maybe a partition plan
  46. I think so
    I think so 31 January 2014 13: 50
    -5
    The inadequacy of the Russian leadership is no longer a secret ... And in the case of Ukraine it’s at all outrageous. Taking money FROM OUR PEOPLE to give it to the creation and strengthening of openly hostile states - the height of stupidity of stupidity if not betrayal ... And where are their brains? Did you drink or hurt during training? But where does the RUSSIAN PEOPLE? When HALF OF THE COUNTRY still DOES NOT have GAS supply and is not expected ... to spend money not pipelines abroad ... when the country's roads cannot be called roads ... litter money for the improvement of YOUR ENEMIES ... (Someone here doubts the preferences of the leadership Ukraine and the majority of its population?) ... It is not too late not to give money or concessions in prices, but simply to send troops to those regions of Ukraine where the majority still remember the Russian language ... But this is not conceivable for the current Russian government .. when ALL their MONEY and ALL their property and ALL THOUGHTS of them are connected not with their old Russia, but with the West ... what’s the conversation ... wipe their snot again ... will pay Ukraine’s integration into NATO, and their people they say it IS NECESSARY TO BE patient ... And the Russian people endure and endure slowly and die out ... So soon there will be no one to ask ...
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    2. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 14: 21
      +1
      Quote: I think so
      . when ALL MONEY of them and ALL their property and ALL THOUGHTS of them are connected not with their old Russia, but with the West ... what kind of conversation ...


      And what: let’s take away? These sheep zapadentsy rested, so their southeast already contains 22 years! so = in the southeast of Russians more than half, let them suffer?

      But do we need it so that the zapadentsy will get into the EU and drag NATO into the Donbass?
  47. ed65b
    ed65b 31 January 2014 13: 52
    +2
    Quote: spirit
    HAH) Here it is the face of a True Political prostitute (although for a mani I think he will work as a simple prostitute) Who will make him give birth to a broader and thicker ass and he will bow to him) The Russian leadership loves such)) be you even a Westerner, even a Chechen terrorist, if you sell your mother for $ and will serve us, then you are our man)))

    Yes it is all over the world and we have the same. Any deputy jumps on parties "like a flea in the balls" they are all "smeared with one world." So their "anointed" is no better or worse than ours.
  48. Bandera
    Bandera 31 January 2014 14: 22
    -1
    Who are the Bendera men and why should they be killed?
    bessarabiainform.com/2014/01/kto-takie-benderovcy-i-pochemu-ix-nado-ubivat
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 1 February 2014 15: 27
      +1
      Yes, this is a fairly balanced opinion. Convenient, I'm sorry to incite. Because, it seems, for the truth and a good deed ... to throw off a gang, for another gang - this is not a program, but anarchy.
      I have a bad attitude towards Bendera, first of all for the violent heroization and the "war" of monuments (wow, I will not forget these idiots who came and demanded to demolish the monument to Katya and the favorite in Odessa)
      secondly, and this is the main thing - for war crimes against the people of Ukraine, which is hushed up by the authorities - and this is no longer heroization.
      It's a shame that it is sincerely bad that for anarchy to the detriment of the common cause. It turns out "do it badly for the country with your own hands, but with the faith that you are doing everything right"
  49. Santor
    Santor 31 January 2014 14: 45
    +15
    I get the impression after reading all the posts that some in ecstasy now, well, they’ll just beat their heads against the wall - Puten sucker, delay .. and so on .... Carefully watching Putin’s especially recent steps, how can we conclude that that he makes some kind of not balanced decisions? It’s you in the kitchen that you want to say, but not in international politics, which takes into account not only every word spoken, and not primarily spoken. but also posture, hand position, facial expressions.

    How the media shook hands unanimously popped - at the summit, the West refused to have dinner for Putin, but I know something else - it was Putin who refused to stay for dinner because of the busyness and complexity of the situation near the Russian borders, which required his every minute attention. It was said it was A. Merkel ...

    Putin has not yet taken a single rash step in the international arena ... I have a negative attitude to much that is being done domestically, but in the international arena he is a PLAYER, whom the West is not yet able to outplay.

    And once again I will write what I wrote and will write - no one will call you from the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation to explain the essence of what was said and unsaid to them, nor from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (personally Lavrov should report on all those combinations that spin the fig under his nose West?), Neither from the GRU and the FSB of Russia ....

    Venediktov correctly answered the provocative question of a Ukrainian journalist (yes, the same one from Echo) about the role of Russian intelligence - if Russian intelligence did not work here, I would have fired the entire leadership there.

    We will be patient and wait ... and I think many will be surprised ...
    But I would like to focus here on another that somehow passed by the vast majority of both supporters and opponents of Euromaidan ....

    I carefully studied the EU regulations on signing the Treaty with Ukraine. One of the first places is the condition for Ukraine to adopt the Law on Restitution. Are you ready for this in Ukraine? In Poland, Austria, Romania, France, the USA are already preparing ....
    Over the past week alone, more than 82 000 citizens of Poland who legally executed documents on ownership of property in the Western regions of Ukraine, annexed to the USSR in 1939, applied to the Polish government.
    From France, data arrived that the family of a former Ukrainian tycoon Tereshchenko is preparing the same for submitting documents - and this is dozens of factories throughout Ukraine, dozens of former estates and hundreds of houses.
    Is Ukraine ready for this? I’m afraid that they didn’t even mention it .... Why should the same inhabitants of the Rivne region know that the owners will soon return and kick them out of their homes, demolish new buildings and build paid parking lots and entertainment centers in their place, as it was in Latvia (land under new buildings belonged to a person who retained legal documents). If people have not legally waived their property, then according to the Law on Restitution, it will have to be returned to them without any conditions and reservations.

    Hello to Ukraine from the EU,
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    2. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 31 January 2014 16: 09
      +1
      Quote: Santor
      One of the first places is the condition for Ukraine to adopt the Law on Restitution.


      Well, you have eaten! But how can I copy and upload here to one of the pages about the Maidan? (there seem to be few left on this page)
    3. ed65b
      ed65b 31 January 2014 19: 25
      +1
      Quote: Santor
      I carefully studied the EU regulations on signing the Treaty with Ukraine.

      What, directly all 900 pages? laughing
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 1 February 2014 15: 38
        0
        Yes, damn it, again 25. This is not about an agreement. Yes, at the beginning of the Maidan we exclaimed Europe and so on for the European Union, a crowd of idiots shouted for Ukraine to join the EU (and note that the crowd wasn’t explained that this was not an entry, but just an enslaving association, and why?)
        Now when Yanyk has become sharply "under-democratic" for the EU, "Get Gang" has gained popularity. Why did my compatriots have swollen brains (after all, in a year Yanyka can be sent to shouting stories like Yuscha in the elections) and shouting madly everything that was written for them was in Poland and then on the orders of the owners - you all know.
        The crowd certainly needs a catchy slogan. Simple and straightforward. Let it be contrary to logic (for example, how stupid it is to demand elections when, after a year, they are officially --- here and no brainer, course change)
        Maybe GDP does it right, quietly. No panic and loud statements.
        It's a shame that - since 2004, all that we officially see is loud statements from the West about support for democracy, about the people’s course in bright European slavery and others .. From the East, everything is different. There are no leaders, we don’t yet see who the GDP has set.
        By the way, we all know that the GDP seems to have made a bet on Medvechuk, but what's strange is that his protege in the 2015 elections was silent ... I haven't heard of him for a long time. Even here, his posters about "victory" over the EU are already being removed.
    4. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 31 January 2014 21: 28
      +1
      Oh, how smart you are. But such a question, were you the same "smart" when the Soviet Union was collapsing? When people who are really smart told you that the "owner" of whom you are waiting for and want "to put things in order" will come and the exploitation of a human-like person will start again, and then he will start paying you a penny, and will make you work to the maximum, 12 -16 hours? You listened strongly to these words. And now you want to teach others. There is a saying: "In hindsight, everyone is smart."
    5. Yuri Sev Caucasus
      Yuri Sev Caucasus 3 February 2014 22: 01
      0
      One gets the impression that they don’t know! Because and tear like mad in the EU.
  50. net-fax.org
    net-fax.org 31 January 2014 14: 51
    0
    All of Putin’s behavior at the EU-RF summit was a complete mistake. Why should Russia give Kiev money if opposition leaders come to power? The United States is quietly manipulating financial assistance - Egypt after the fall of the Muslim brothers was denied financial support, now they have again announced its resumption. Money is only an instrument of influence, and Putin would have to remember this, and not act as a sanctuary.
    1. 31231
      31231 31 January 2014 16: 36
      +4
      All of Putin’s behavior at the EU-RF summit was a complete mistake. Why should Russia give Kiev money if opposition leaders come to power?


      You from Azerbaijan, of course, know better what the US is doing in the Kremlin and in the head of the GDP.
    2. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 31 January 2014 22: 00
      -3
      And where did everyone get that Pu ... n-smart?
      1. Victor-M
        Victor-M 31 January 2014 22: 40
        +1
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        what is Pu ... n-smart?

        Are you talking about paunch on your avatar?
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 31 January 2014 22: 56
          -3
          You-to-school: "puzan" is written with a small letter, since the name is a common noun. "Pu ... n" is a proper name, with a big one. It is a proper name.