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By 2020, Russia will have a new army

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By 2020, Russia will have a new army

Yesterday, Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika proposed to return to the Ministry of Industry and Trade control over the implementation of federal target programs in the defense industry complex. He called unjustified practice, when this most important function falls on the subordinate enterprises and commercial organizations.


“Over the last 3 of the year, enormous state funds have been spent on the development and implementation of advanced technologies and the development of the scientific and intellectual potential of only the aircraft and shipbuilding industries. However, we don’t see any results from this work. There is no implementation of scientific developments in practice,” the Prosecutor General said today. on the board, which his department, at the initiative of the military, held together with the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade. The conversation there was devoted to the state of law in the defense industry.

In response to the proposal of Yuri Chaika, the Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov put forward his initiatives - to transfer the expertise of defense projects to the regional level and streamline inspections of defense companies. “Over the past year and a half, 142 control agencies conducted executors of the state defense order 35 of control bodies conducted over 1200 checks. Different departments check the same legal norms as a rule. Subject areas are often mixed,” the minister noted. In his opinion, it is necessary to streamline not only the subject and timing of inspections, clearly define what is being checked and by whom. And he proposes to make checks themselves joint and complex.

In the meantime, what the prosecutors at defense enterprises see is not encouraging. According to Yuri Chaika, contracts do not stand there, dubious organizations are involved as co-contractors. There are quite a few facts of overstatement of contractual prices, but it is possible to talk about embezzlement of budget funds in the defense-industrial complex for a very long time. Chaika said that last year, after examining cases in aircraft building and shipbuilding corporations, prosecutors filed criminal cases with 48. Another 43 material is in the pre-investigation stage.

At the same time, according to Chaika, the Ministry of Defense needs to improve the system of military acceptance. The head of the defense department agrees. At the joint board, Shoigu said that last year more than 14 positions of military representatives were reinstated "in our main areas of activity." The minister recalled that by 2020, Russia should actually have a new army, and 20 trillions of rubles were allocated for its re-equipment. In order to use the new arsenal with maximum efficiency, the Ministry of Defense switches to full life cycle contracts. Enterprises will have to accompany their products from the moment of its design and mass production to delivery to the troops and disposal. To this end, the military are already transferring the 99 defense industry of their specialized enterprises, reserving only routine maintenance and repair of weapons and equipment.
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  1. afire
    afire 30 January 2014 11: 27
    +11
    what the hell are the results?
    Take any large enterprise in the country - they are all subsidized. Therein lies a colossal thing, called a caste of tangible managers, whose task is to remain in their chairs under any pretext or if something happens that threatens their backside, they will knead anyone. From this:
    1) Any public initiatives - under the knife.
    2) Any improvements in the enterprise that require costs - under the knife.
    3) Upstarts trying to improve a particular process, which again needs
    someone to tear off the ass (to steam) to solve these problems - under the knife.
    4) The creation of instruments and devices for the country are carried out in an extremely wretched and cheap
    performance, the main thing is to create and fulfill the resources taken over
    government contracts. The result is unfinished, not thought out,
    ugly aggregates with an unthinkable amount of marriage.

    That's it, brothers. And castes at these enterprises consist of 60-80 year old fatty freaks and their children. All for the sake of money with maximum preservation for them.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 30 January 2014 11: 34
      +4
      Quote: afire
      what the hell are the results ???

      the results will be when all lovers of freebies are driven away from the "feeding trough". What is actually the point in the article.
      1. afire
        afire 30 January 2014 11: 38
        +4
        Well, how do you drive away all freebie lovers from the feeder if the enterprises are mostly private !? There are claims to those who sign contracts with such enterprises, without checking their legitimacy and real affairs, and not a promise and words.
        1. 120352
          120352 30 January 2014 15: 18
          0
          Our army is still state, and not honest. And enterprises serving the needs of the army must also be state owned!
          1. afire
            afire 31 January 2014 00: 07
            0
            if the enterprises serving the army are only state-owned, then we doom ourselves to the brakes in development, because those people do not need anything, just stay in their seats ... checked at least 3 enterprises.
      2. Roman A
        Roman A 30 January 2014 11: 38
        +4
        The whole world of violence we will destroy
        To the ground, and then
        We are ours, we will build a new world,
        Who was nothing, that will be all
        But you can’t take the Soviet acceptance as the basis, otherwise this song has been playing for 20 years
      3. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 30 January 2014 12: 08
        +2
        Quote: Tersky
        the results will be when all lovers of freebies are driven away from the "feeding trough". What is actually the point in the article.

        I am glad that we finally got around to purging the defense industry complex. I am also glad that "space production" is returning quality under state control. Our opponents did everything to ensure that Russia never returned to the leading position in the world. However, today I am collecting the entire industry bit by bit, I manage to create a really working mechanism for the defense industry. I hope that everything that has been conceived will be carried through to the end and we will get the defense industry complex that we deserve.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 30 January 2014 22: 20
          0
          Quote: Gluxar_
          I am glad that at last the hands reached the purges in the defense industry.

          So far, only a declaration of intent. But how many have already been. Rogozin alone spoke on the whole volume.
      4. 120352
        120352 30 January 2014 15: 16
        +2
        Yes, do not drive them away, but shoot them! This is betrayal, treason to the motherland!
      5. SFIR
        SFIR 30 January 2014 23: 15
        0
        if everyone is removed from the feeder then they need to be employed and they don’t like it .. I mean work.
    2. alone
      alone 30 January 2014 22: 11
      +2
      Quote: afire
      Take any large enterprise in the country - they are all subsidized.


      And what else would you expect if more than half of those produced at these enterprises (at least those related to the military-industrial complex) are mainly exported for loans. Enterprises do not have real earnings from these transactions. And to maintain the production cycle, you have to cover the entire loss with subsidies .
      1. afire
        afire 31 January 2014 00: 16
        +1
        not always subsidies due to export, in many cases the maintenance of such engines with a full cycle is several times greater than those enterprises produce (I have already talked about wretched devices with ill-conceived designs and a lot of marriage). For example, Russian Railways has exclusively selected enterprises for solving some tasks. Orders are minimal (3000 products per year, for example), they are exceptional because the left cannot get into their caste because they wash their hands, respectively, 3000 wretched and absolutely not perfect devices are made at prices starting from 1 million. An iron box with a bunch of holes (moisture protection, as it were :)) and in it there is one or 2 boards using 0603 technology with planar mikruhs. But with the papers, everything is just super - kilotons of paper with documentation, instead of several comp. files! - it is necessary to provide the printing department with work, the purchasing department with orders for paper, warehouses, respectively, with the storage of bamaga and so on. Exaggerated, but aptly.
        and so on everywhere. a bureaucratic machine that can only be shoved off when the transparency of all finances comes.
  2. Mails
    Mails 30 January 2014 11: 30
    0
    Let us hope for the best...)
    1. afire
      afire 30 January 2014 11: 40
      +1
      hope ..
      after 10 years, do not cry only that the polymer has been cured.
      Your children will also tell you - why were you daddy sitting on his ass instead of correcting the situation, at least in his company? It would be better to work! better. I would think, not score.
  3. svp67
    svp67 30 January 2014 11: 38
    +1
    By 2020, Russia will have a new army
    in the light of the international situation, I would like for earlier ...
    1. S-200
      S-200 30 January 2014 13: 34
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      in the light of the international situation, I would like for earlier ...

      since 2000 ... for 14 years it was not enough to restore order.
      Really fit in the remaining 6 years ???!
      Boo-ha-ha ..
  4. Volkhov
    Volkhov 30 January 2014 11: 51
    0
    The article is optimistic:
    By 2020, Russia will have a new army

    - that is, the existing army can hope for 6 years of life, which is not likely.
    It remains to clarify - whose new army will be, and whether it is worth serving in this, can wait for the new?
    1. Genur
      Genur 30 January 2014 16: 43
      0
      By that time, the number of military representatives could increase by two times ... If, of course, the military-industrial complex survives.
  5. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 30 January 2014 12: 02
    +1
    The institute of military representatives could not be liquidated! Why did they play along with "stooltkin"? control by the customer should be at all stages of production, construction, adoption of military equipment and dual-use equipment. It seems that we have very little time, so we need to take our time.
  6. moremansf
    moremansf 30 January 2014 12: 06
    +1
    Control and only control of all processes will help restore order in the military-industrial complex, of course, military acceptance is indispensable ... the control on the part of the customer has completely wrecked and this is the result, we have been building and modernizing for years ...
  7. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 30 January 2014 12: 25
    +1
    Amazing We are building capitalism and a liberal economy, but we hope that everything will be like under socialism and a planned economy. Why would it all be?
    1. military
      military 30 January 2014 16: 07
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      We are building capitalism and a liberal economy, but we hope that everything will be like under socialism and a planned economy. Why would it all be?

      but everything is simple ... the "foremen" really want to climb the tree and ** do not rip off ... repeat
  8. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 30 January 2014 13: 25
    0
    and this is another 20 trillion allocated? and this time how many will be stolen? and where shall we get the old army?
  9. Leshka
    Leshka 30 January 2014 14: 26
    0
    I hope it will be so
  10. military
    military 30 January 2014 16: 05
    0
    At a joint college, Shoigu said that last year was restored more than 14 posts military representatives "in the main areas of our activities."

    untranslatable Tuvan folklore ... laughing
  11. 120352
    120352 30 January 2014 16: 51
    0
    Will the new one appear because the old will die out?
  12. kelevra
    kelevra 30 January 2014 19: 27
    +1
    By 2015 I will conclude a contract for five years and then plunge into the new army with my head! The third contract is coming to an end.
  13. JonnyT
    JonnyT 30 January 2014 19: 30
    +1
    Gull? Yes, he is one of these ..... corruptionists! Here it is necessary to change everything, not separate parts ..... the whole system of the state! The hapless capitalist system gives rise to flawed people, corrupt officials and liars who do not know the concepts of honor and homeland!
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 30 January 2014 20: 34
    0
    By 2020, Russia will have a new army

    Such slogans always scare me, we already didn’t hear anything.
  15. Karabin
    Karabin 30 January 2014 22: 31
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    The Minister recalled that by 2020, Russia should actually have a new army, and 20 trillion rubles were allocated for its rearmament.
    There will probably be enough money for a company of new billionaires, and I doubt it very much for a new army.
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  18. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 30 January 2014 22: 46
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    And I don’t care, I’ll change the army like the Ministry of Emergencies and invite NATO to biathlon! On our terms!