"Geneva-2" continues

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Switzerland is continuing the international conference on Syria "Geneva-2". As expected, negotiations between delegations from the legitimate leadership of the SAR and the "Qatari coalition" are difficult. The internal Syrian opposition, with which the discussion of the political future of the country should have gone, was beyond the framework of the conference by the efforts of the United States and its allies. And the members of the “Qatari coalition” put forward ultimatums, put some unthinkable, absurd conditions and take other non-constructive steps. For example, on January 24, when the first negotiations between the delegations were to take place, the “oppositionists” simply did not appear.

Nevertheless, the first contacts between the parties did take place. The first meeting of January 25 lasted just 30 minutes and was limited to a statement by the UN Special Representative to the SAR Lakhdar Brahimi. On the second, in the morning of January 26, when the communication did not proceed directly, but through the same special envoy, the “opposition” finally formulated something remotely similar to the proposal to deliver humanitarian aid to the quarters of the Old City of Homs.

At present, these quarters are the only ones that are under the control of the militants. The army cannot control them because there are thousands of civilians there who are being held hostage by militants and used as human shields. But, when they need to, the “oppositionists” are not averse to speculating with the sufferings of these people, blaming the blame for them on Syria. Similarly, the situation is also in the Palestinian Yarmuk refugee camp in the city of Damascus, and in other areas where terrorists reign. The remaining civilians are starving and blockaded, but the gangsters, taking advantage of international concealment, and the fact that most of the media controlled by their patrons, use the position of these people for propaganda: they say, “the people suffer under the dictatorship”. And not a word that in the territories where there are no militants or who are not surrounded by them, it is precisely such suffering that is not observed. These territories suffer from another - from terrorist attacks, shelling, destruction of infrastructure facilities, but the authorities, as far as they can, do not allow hunger and support normal life.

So, the delegation of the "opposition" suggested, at first glance, a humane idea - to deliver humanitarian aid to residents remaining in the terrorist-controlled neighborhoods of the city of Homs. But even if we assume that this is humanism, then it is very, very one-sided, which the representatives of the UAR delegation paid attention to.

Advisor to the President of Syria on political and informational issues, Bussein Shaaban, stated that the government side is seeking to ensure the delivery of humanitarian aid not only to Homs, but also to all parts of Syria. "Access to humanitarian aid is not a concession. The opposition wants to get humanitarian aid delivered to one region, and we want it for the whole of Syria, for all the people," she said, saying that the ATS government, together with the UN, developed a plan to provide assistance to peaceful citizens in all hard-to-reach corners of the country. And it is precisely this plan that must be carried out to ensure that help reaches all who need it. But the terrorists in every way prevent this by shelling humanitarian convoys.

Shaaban noted that the “opposition” delegation does not represent the entire opposition. She asked: who is this delegation? If it does not represent such terrorist organizations as Dzhebhat An Nusra, the Islamic Front, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, then who?
The answer is simple - this delegation represents only a small grouping of the “opposition”. It has little to do with those who act directly on the ground, on earth. Therefore, it is difficult to negotiate with these persons on the delivery of humanitarian aid, since they cannot guarantee the unimpeded passage of convoys.

“We do not know what their real possibilities are. We are working together with the Red Cross, the Red Crescent and other organizations, but the main problem on this path is terror, ”said Buseyna Shaaban.

Other representatives of Syria pointed out the urgent need to provide humanitarian assistance to the inhabitants of the Adra workers' town in the province of Damascus, in which there are battles between gangs and the army, as well as citizens in the villages of Nubl and Zahra in the province of Aleppo. For about a year these two settlements have been heroically opposing armed groups, but they are in the blockade of terrorists.

However, the Syrian side agreed to deliver humanitarian aid to the problem areas of Homs. In addition, following negotiations, an agreement was reached on the withdrawal of women and children from there. Let me remind you once again that the problem here has never been in the position of the government, but is connected solely with the actions of gangsters who are firing at humanitarian convoys.

In addition, the parties agreed to exchange lists, on the one hand, captured terrorists, on the other - illegally held in the hands of gangs of abducted citizens.

As Lahdar Brahimi said after the talks, “this is a small step, but it was the first concrete result of the conference.” He added that in the near future a column with humanitarian aid will head to Homs. "Oppositionists" assured that armed groups would not attack the convoy.

Of course, there is little faith in terrorists, especially considering what is happening in Syria itself. While these negotiations were under way, “oppositionists” gangsters fired a Bab Tum Christian neighborhood in Damascus with a mortar. The shells hit houses, as a result, seven people were injured, and great material damage was caused to residents.

In addition, in a suburb of Damascus in the Al-Wafidin refugee camp, a child was seriously injured by an explosion of a bomb set by insurgents.
And in the province of Homs in the village of Taldu, the attackers tried to set up a "hellish car" near the hospital, but it exploded and killed several criminals.

Let's go back to Geneva. There, the Deputy Foreign Minister, Faisal Al-Mekdad, gave a press conference at which he stated that the main issue was the fight against terrorism, and it is impossible to discuss problems relating to the present and future of Syria, when people continue to die in the country.

According to Al-Mekdad, if the negotiations fail, then the responsibility for this will fall on the United States and other Western countries sponsoring terrorists. He cited the words of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov that it is impossible to negotiate with terrorists. “At the same time,” he said, “US Secretary of State Kerry constantly urges us to dialogue with them.” Some countries do not deny that they support terrorists. I have a feeling that I am at a conference dedicated to war, not peace. Kerry and Haig’s statements called for war, not peace. If negotiations fail, they will be held accountable. ”

The Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the SAR also demanded that the delegation of the “coalition” and journalists show elementary respect for the representatives of Syria at the conference. “We represent here not the“ regime ”, but the government of Syria,” he stressed. “Our task is to stop the bloodshed and find ways for the peace process. At the same time, we see that attempts are being made to demonize the government delegation.”

In particular, he denied the claims of some employees of hostile media that allegedly Syrian prisons are children. “I categorically deny that there are children in prisons,” he said. “These are rumors. We were ready to become the object of fabrications in the media.”

The Syrian diplomat reiterated the need to lift the unjust, unilateral sanctions imposed against the state. As a result of these sanctions, innocent citizens suffer.

“We want to discuss any topics,” said Faisal Al-Mekdad. “We hope this is the right way to save Syria from the war we are witnessing and from military intervention by outside parties, including Turkey, France, the United States, Saudi Arabia and other countries that want to kill Syrians. "

In the course of the negotiations going on in Geneva, one thing can be said: at a time when the “opposition” speaks the language of meaningless ultimatums, the delegation of the Syrian government raises specific questions concerning the improvement of the humanitarian situation in the country, rendering assistance to all who need it, and ending violence and bloodshed.
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  1. +7
    28 January 2014 09: 05
    from the Don.
    From the very beginning, the US statement about the representation of the Assad opposition in Switzerland, this was bullshit, it was clear right away! But this meeting gives official Damascus the opportunity to publicly speak about terrorism in the country!
    1. +2
      28 January 2014 09: 21
      Judging by the number of comments, this topic is no longer very interesting. I’m very surprised if they agree to something there. This is an empty undertaking, but there is only one benefit in it, as long as this view continues, the West will not take active action. And the farther the more and more clearly it becomes clear what the Syrian opposition is. I think the next massacre in the territories controlled by the opposition and the opposition in Geneva will run out of arguments.
    2. +1
      28 January 2014 09: 26
      1. Alas, but not ISIS, FAN and IF, they are not going to agree on anything, there is a gradual self-actualization of the conflict.
      2. Only the consolidation of forces of the SAR SSA will help restore peace to at least part of the country.
      3. And then the gradual liberation of the country.
      1. 0
        28 January 2014 22: 21
        Dear Gromova, judging by your article, Adra is still in the hands of militants, since the population needs humanitarian aid. Yet in December, you claimed that the liberation of the city was a matter of days. As you can see, your forecasts did not materialize. Why did the Syrian troops fail to defend a strategic important stronghold in Deir-az dawn - this is a hospital complex, which was captured yesterday by the Nusrovtsy.
        And further. after reading the article, I understood what the members of the delegation from the authorities said there. For the sake of objectivity, it would be possible to quote and their opponents. But the article turns out as if only the president’s representatives spoke there, and the rest just sat and listened to their arguments. can not be.
  2. +5
    28 January 2014 09: 20
    The circus continues, but it would be necessary to kill the clowns from the so-called "opposition", and especially their puppeteers. Sheep have nothing to negotiate with wolves. Some want grass and peace, others - meat and blood. It is painful to see the ongoing attempts to humiliate the legitimate government of Syria. All this action looks great on the trial of Miloshivech with the result of Saddam.
  3. +4
    28 January 2014 09: 55
    Some kind of profanity, not a conference.
  4. +5
    28 January 2014 10: 21
    Obama must leave! wassat
    1. 0
      28 January 2014 20: 54

      Obama must leave! wassat

      The message is clear, but .. in my opinion it will be better
      USA must leave !!!!
      Or we will "leave" her sooner or later
      soldier
  5. +3
    28 January 2014 10: 45
    And what, only the quarters of Holmes are controlled by the militants ??, if so then it is very pleasing, the troops are crushing this reptile.
    1. 0
      28 January 2014 22: 07
      Actually, not Holmes, but Homs. If there is Holmes, then Watson must be nearby))
      Half of Syria is under the control of militants. So it’s very early to say that militants
      press down.
  6. vladsolo56
    +4
    28 January 2014 11: 12
    Interesting forum position on "Geneva-2" Who can say that this is reasonable? So the meaning of the negotiations, the authorities must resign, then we will negotiate. Isn't it a madhouse? If the authorities lay down their powers, who will negotiate with them? Then it will only be like Libya or Iraq, arrests, torture, executions and hanging, although in Syria the so-called revolutionaries prefer to shoot and cut off their heads.
    1. oscar
      +1
      28 January 2014 11: 44
      ... and a heart bite.
  7. +2
    28 January 2014 11: 54
    It is curious how the so-called. modern "public" opinion. What comes from the "mouth" of the US, the European Union and their hangers-on is ALWAYS perceived and presented as an indisputable truth, as something that should not be questioned, no matter how idiotic and implausible it may look. But the opinion and information coming from opponents is deliberate propaganda, misinformation, untruth, etc. Do you think that ordinary people in the West question what is written in their media? Whatever it is, they absolutely trust such information. It's just silly to hope that we will be able to change something in this.
    1. +1
      28 January 2014 21: 06
      It didn’t form in any way, nothing itself happens, it was formed. wink
      Yes, it’s silly to hope, we must do and not hope. Otherwise, the fate of Ukraine and Syria awaits us. The Russia Today channel is doing just that. Not all residents of 3,14ndosia and bourgeoissoyuz are so stupid as to unconditionally believe the media. Believe me, there are also adequate people there. And what their politicians say has only one relation to public opinion - this is the current task of forming that very "public opinion".
      And in general, public opinion in our state is much more important, not even opinion, but worldview.
  8. +1
    28 January 2014 12: 15
    The conference, of course, is complete nonsense, but it gives time, let them talk longer! If we do not merge Syria, then the government troops will do their job and cleanse Syria from terror scum! But, in general, arrogant Saxons once again show their true identity! Conclusion - beat the arrogant Saxons!
  9. +3
    28 January 2014 12: 18
    Yeah ... I never thought before that in politics the main tool is a lie. A blatant, uncovered lie.
    1. +1
      28 January 2014 17: 50
      Quote: Ram Chandra
      A blatant, uncovered lie.

      "The bolder the lie, the more willingly they believe in it!" (tse) notorious bastard
    2. +1
      28 January 2014 22: 08
      Quote: Ram Chandra
      Yeah ... I never thought before that in politics the main tool is a lie. A blatant, uncovered lie.


      The policy itself since its inception is based on lies.
  10. +1
    28 January 2014 12: 48
    Judging by the fact that the suspension of hostilities does not go on either side, everyone is happy with the events. Well, or the Geneva opposition has no power to stop its militants, and the Syrian military does not want to let the militants regroup
  11. +1
    28 January 2014 16: 13
    From the bottom of my heart it is said frankly .. "We wish to discuss any topics ... We hope that this is the right way ...". We can only hope that this does not become a waste of time and another dragging out of the dialogue to nowhere .. The favorite tactic of the United States and its puppets is to create a kind of working bustle in the absence of substantiveness of the conversation ... well, everything is as in the issue of the introduction of a visa-free regime between Russia and the EU. ...
  12. Beck
    0
    28 January 2014 16: 50
    Elena Gromovawhere is the breakdown of Geneva-2 which you attributed to the west. Negotiations are and are going on only between the opposition and the delegation of the regime. If at least something is agreed, it will already be good.

    And judging by your reports, you do not want any agreements; the main thing for you is to maintain a dictatorial regime. Tell me, if you were in Chile in the 70s, you would also extol Pinochet’s dictatorial regime, how are you extolling the family dictatorship of the Asad clan?
    1. +2
      28 January 2014 21: 13
      Troll on American pliz forums, here you will not be understood hi
      quote from text
      whom does this delegation represent? If she does not represent such terrorist organizations as Jebhat An-Nusra, Islamic Front, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, then who?

      The author does not express reluctance of the agreements, but expresses an extreme degree of doubt about their possibility. For a very simple reason, with the same success, you can negotiate with a bear at the zoo, maybe you can, but what does it have to do with guns scumbags ?!
      Beck and how do you feel about the family-clan dictatorship of the Rothschilds-Rockefellers. Only please, without touching stories about democracy, fair elections, people's deputies and other pink dregs.
      1. 0
        28 January 2014 22: 11
        Beck is right here. The negotiations are between the parties and Assad’s fate remains the only unresolved issue. The only stumbling block. I wrote last time that, unlike jihadists, we can agree with the SSA and moderate Islamists, because the SSA and the moderate are made up of citizens Syria.

        1. 0
          29 January 2014 01: 28
          Between which parties? What are the leaders in the negotiations? Do not be so naive, look back at history, how many such settlements were in recent history and how did it end ?? Gaddafi also thought that it was possible to agree ...

          Imagine, I broke into your house in a campaign of youngsters drunk and started to ruin everything when all the furniture and utensils were destroyed, the household was beaten and the lads were tired of such righteous labors. I offer you negotiations and set the condition that we stop breaking and breaking, provided that you, as the head of the family, must leave.
          I hope it is clearly turned out. In approximately this vein, these negotiations are taking place.
          1. 0
            29 January 2014 21: 24
            between the representatives of the authorities and the Sunni part of the country's population, which is the pillar of the opposition. You seriously think that half of Syria was captured by foreigners, who are there on the strength of 20-25 thousand people. Thus, 25 thousand people managed to capture half the country from the 300 thousandth army, which is supported by the whole people ?
            This alone is enough to understand that we are all trying to hang noodles on our ears.
      2. Beck
        0
        29 January 2014 13: 38
        Quote: Firstvanguard
        Troll on American pliz forums, here you will not be understood


        Do you have a clear, unambiguous definition of what troll is? I answered Thunder. You answered me. And if I was trolling, then you are trolling while answering my koment. This is when there is nothing to answer begins - Troll, it’s not your business who you are and so on.

        Quote: Firstvanguard
        Beck, how do you feel about the Rothschild-Rockefeller family clan dictatorship.


        In what context do you have the expression family clan? If related then yes. The clan of relatives controls the property that the founder left to them. And this has nothing to do with any dictatorship at the political level. In economic yes. If some government wants to borrow money from the clan, the clan may or may not. Just like you can borrow me 100 rubles, or maybe not. And your tales of the night that precisely this clan rules the countries and the whole world, dictating some political conditions, I have nothing to tell. Present at least one reliable document, and not articles by PR journalists that this clan establishes or has established its political and economic regime in any country.

        Such as you mean by such as Libya. How many screams were that the rebellion against Gaddafi is the work of clans, amers, etc. nonsense. Nonsense because the protege of the clans and amers, the current government of Libya, cannot fully support Russia's position on Syria.

        Quote: Firstvanguard
        Only please, without touching stories about democracy, fair elections, people's deputies and other pink dregs.


        If civilized international and universal relations are dull for you, then you can’t explain anything. Because, living not under a dictatorship or monarchy, but under Russian democracy and electing the leader of Russia and the Russian parliament in the elections (this or that honesty, but elections), you do not leave the same right to other people of other countries.

        Quote: Firstvanguard
        whom does this delegation represent? If she does not represent such terrorist organizations as Jebhat An-Nusra, Islamic Front, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, then who?


        There are no delegates from these terrorist organizations in Geneva. These terrorists make up 10 percent of the opposition. 90 percent are Syrians themselves.

        Last thing. I asked you what to do and on what sites to leave my comments? I do not send you with your comments to where Makar calves did not pass, where Kuz'ka’s mother in all her glory and did not show you the way on which some member flaunts.

        And the flag from Kazakhstan to Amerovsky changes due to some technical problem of the conductor, "Belain", or something.
        1. 0
          31 January 2014 16: 02
          I didn’t want to offend anyone hi
          And this has nothing to do with any dictatorship at the political level. In economic yes. If some government wants to borrow money from the clan, the clan may or may not.

          And can give with certain (political?) Conditions wink
          Submit at least one reliable document

          Despite a series of American presidents, different parties, religions and skin colors, US policy on the world stage has not undergone any key changes, if something changes, then the geographical point where they will be killed in the name of democracy. The history of recent decades is the most reliable document, but on paper you can scribble anything you want, it will endure everything.
          If civilized international and universal relations are dull for you, then you can’t explain anything.

          Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Mali - civilized international and universal relations ???
          Because, living not under a dictatorship or monarchy, but under Russian democracy and electing the leader of Russia and the Russian parliament in the elections (this or that honesty, but elections), you do not leave the same right to other people of other countries.

          1. B. Assad, the legitimate president of Syria, who came to power in a legal (to one degree or another) way.
          2. And who told you that I believe in democracy and am satisfied with it?
          These terrorists make up 10 percent of the opposition. 90 percent are Syrians themselves.

          Have you counted it yourself? Thug Syrian origin is not a thug?
          Last thing. I asked you what to do and on what sites to leave my comments? I do not send you with your comments to where Makar calves did not pass, where Kuz'ka’s mother in all her glory and did not show you the way on which some member flaunts.

          For all the emotionality of my previous post, I, as a man brought up, turn to a stranger, and even virtually, only to you.
    2. -1
      29 January 2014 11: 33
      If the conflict is not influenced from outside, then according to the laws of its development, it will end somehow in a certain period of time. Our counter-actions with the West only delay and complicate this process, more opposing forces appear. Leave Syria alone, make isolation if necessary and all parties will quickly agree on their own, they will have no one to rely on. And who of them is a dictator, and nobody really knows what is happening there. And all our fabrications are only personal sympathies based on very contradictory and unfortunately not reliable information.
      1. +1
        29 January 2014 13: 11
        The problem is that if we leave, as you put it, Syria alone, it will not be left alone by the Saudis and the bastard sad
        1. 0
          29 January 2014 13: 19
          The more participants in the process, the further the resolution of the conflict.
          Ideally, everyone who wants to help should focus their efforts on isolation and no interference. Any local conflict must go through all its stages before it is resolved. Now all the assistants are holding him in an active phase.
          1. 0
            31 January 2014 16: 09
            There is no spherical conflict in nature in a vacuum, there is always an external influence.