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Western policy in the post-Soviet space will accelerate the process of restoring the USSR

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Western policy in the post-Soviet space will accelerate the process of restoring the USSR

It is no coincidence that Russians began to have a positive attitude even towards Georgia.


Domestic sociologists have revealed an interesting fact: for the first time in many years, the share of Russian citizens belonging to Georgia positively exceeded 50% (51% as of December 2013 of the year).

In 2000-s of the highest (56%) it was in December 2003, when there was hope that the unintelligible and hypocritical regime of Shevardnadze was leaving and the new leadership would proceed from common sense and the traditionally friendly relations between Russia and Georgia. Although those who knew the situation in the Georgian elites warned that the people of his own team were against the leader, he was brought up and formed by him, and according to some, he was also organized for the sure transfer of power to "the right people." In any case, under the new rather repressive regime, Shevardnadze himself and his family were not harmed in anything. By the autumn of 2004, the last became more and more obvious and the good attitude towards Georgia began to decline - first to 52% in 2004, and then to 43% in 2005.

Today hopes are back again. Although many who know the situation, again caution, saying that the difference in attitude towards Russia between the new leadership and Saakashvili is no more than that between Saakashvili and Shevardnadze. But this is a somewhat separate topic.

Another thing is important: today in Russia, the attitude towards the three most different, attracting the attention of the USSR republics - Belarus, Ukraine and Georgia - which have detached from it - has simultaneously become dominantly positive. The good ratio to the first one is 82%, to the second - 65% (although this is lower than the 2012 indicator of the year when it was 69%). To Georgia, as mentioned, 51%.

Against this background, a good attitude towards the United States for the first time since November 2008 has fallen below 50% (48%). The high level of good relations with the EU is consistently declining: in November 2010, it was 72%, 2011-th - 71%, 2012-th - 58%, in December 2013-th - 54%. The latter, of course, is connected with the aggressive actions of the EU in Ukraine.

Here, too, there is a pattern: the attitude towards the EU and the United States deteriorates during the exacerbation of the situation in the Union republics. Today, in Ukraine, in 2008, in Georgia: then the good attitude towards the US fell to a minimum (33%), and to the EU - also to a minimum during the observation period, although it was higher (53%).

Western countries cannot understand that their attempts to extend their influence over the territory of the USSR and, moreover, to the USSR’s responsibility zone, which was fixed by the Potsdam agreements and the Helsinki meeting of 1975, clearly resemble the annexation of the territory of the defeated country. Former US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates admitted in his recently published book, Duty, that attempts to draw Ukraine and Georgia into the Western bloc did not give anything to the bloc itself, but merely created provocative tensions in relations with Russia, leading to its naturally aggravated reaction.

But on the whole, the highest elites of these countries naively do not understand what Stalin understood after the Victory over Germany, for example: “There is no Hitler - Germany remains.” Each of their attempts to remind that they came out of the confrontation with the USSR winners (or put things in such a way that they came out winners) will inevitably lead to a response and the collective consciousness of Russia, and, let's call it conditionally, “collective Soviet consciousness”, including the consciousness of the masses, and the consciousness of the political elite, which inevitably would yearn for the opportunities that it would have if it were in power not in Russia, but in the USSR, and even completely Westernized owners of oligarchic empires, which will increasingly be go to the conclusion that communicate with foreign partners in the class would be easier and more profitable, relying on military and industrial might of the USSR, and not on those of the remains and ruins that have been preserved in modern Russia.

And the more Westerners will consider themselves in the right to interfere in the affairs of the Soviet Potsdam zone of influence, the more reasons Russia and the “collective Soviet consciousness” will relate to this state of affairs approximately the same as Germany of the Versailles 20 of the last century .

You can certainly say that these sentiments in Germany served her a disservice and led to the surrender of 1945 of the year. But do not forget that this was not so much the result of the breakdown of the Versailles agreements, as the result of the violation of the 1939 pact of the year. Which, by the way, itself meant the cessation of the existence of the Versailles borders.

The more the West tries to hurt Russia by including its territories in its control zone, the more “collective Soviet” will play a greater role in its positioning and the more it will seek to punish the “new Versailles predators”.

A positive attitude towards Belarus, Ukraine and Georgia at the same time is important precisely because of the difference in these republics and the different nature of relations with them in recent decades.

If we assume the completion of the reunification of Russia and Belarus - this is more a private decision of the two countries, not very much meaning for other republics. If we imagine their reunification with Ukraine already, then this is practically Great Russia, almost the Russian Empire of Catherine II. If you draw a picture of Georgia’s reunification with them (which at the same time will mean the reunification of Armenia), it’s not even just an empire of the 19th century, but a critical mass, after which the “Western nightmare” - the process of restoring the territorial integrity of the Union - will become irreversible.

All this today looks fantastic. Although not more than the idea of ​​reaching India once looked like, sailing west from Spain.

But against the background of the described indicators of the attitude towards the named republics and the named geopolitical partners-competitors of the citizens of Russia, the regret about the destruction and division of the USSR and the idea of ​​the degree of its inevitability develops.

If a year ago 49% regretted it and did not regret 36%, then according to the 2013-2014 turnaround data, the number of the first has risen sharply, to 57%, and the number of the second has sharply dropped (30%). Levada Center, which cites this data, avoids asking whether Russian citizens would like to restore the USSR, But when he asked him in March 2006, in the 15 anniversary of the Referendum on the preservation of the Union, more than 60% answered that they would like such a recovery .

At the same time, if the number of people who considered destruction of the USSR inevitable in 2011 was 33% and in 2012 was 31%, today it has decreased to 29%, while the number who believe that it could be avoided increased from 48% in 2012 to 53 % Today.
That is, it can no longer be attributed solely to nostalgia, it is not only memories of the past. This is the result of understanding both the past and the present, a conclusion from the realities of the development of today's political life.

At the same time, there are three processes: an improvement in attitudes, in particular, to complex republics that have separated from Russia, a deterioration in attitudes towards the world power centers interfering in their relations with Russia and their inner life and the growing regret for the death of a single state.
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  1. TEODOR
    TEODOR 28 January 2014 16: 06
    +68
    Lord, let Putin manage to do what he intended.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 28 January 2014 16: 10
      +3
      Are you sure of his ideas?
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 28 January 2014 16: 33
        +36
        Quote: TEODOR
        Lord, let Putin manage to do what he intended

        What was he up to?
        Well, according to the article. To the author, I would just remind you that the USSR is not only a union, but first of all TIPS and SOCIALISM. It was on this basis that the UNION was created. unfortunately, of course, for the bulk of people are not averse to returning the Union.
        1. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 28 January 2014 16: 54
          +9
          It is believed that Shoigu will be the next president, and he is a Soviet man, so wait and see ...
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 28 January 2014 17: 15
            +4
            Quote: TiGRoO
            It is believed that the next president will be Shoigu, and he is a Soviet man,

            And Putin, what has flown from another planet?
            Horseradish radish is not sweeter.
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 28 January 2014 17: 56
              +22
              Quote: baltika-18
              And Putin, what has flown from another planet?
              Horseradish radish is not sweeter.


              All those whom you intensively pour mud came from our beloved USSR - a country that people ruined with their own hands. Here was an interesting paragraph in the article.

              At the same time, if the number of people who considered destruction of the USSR inevitable in 2011 was 33% and in 2012 was 31%, today it has decreased to 29%, while the number who believe that it could be avoided increased from 48% in 2012 to 53 % Today.


              Finally, it came to light that those events were a typical divorce of the masses for "justice" and "patriotism", where the basic concepts were imperceptibly replaced.
              Justice became the slogan "Select and Divide, and count the bourgeoisie!" (the same was in 1917)
              А patriotism has become "fighting mode"
              This is happening now.
              All these points in the picture below.


              And voila, no justice, no regime, and even without a country, as a bonus.
              1. Ivan_Ivanov
                Ivan_Ivanov 28 January 2014 18: 37
                +36
                It became known that on the first day of the Olympiad, the presidents of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, as well as Kazakhstan, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, are preparing a joint statement. The preliminary text is as follows:

                In connection with the latest events in Ukraine, with the events in Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Belarus;

                in connection with the violation by the United States, Europe, NATO of its obligations to guarantee the integrity and independence of states that have withdrawn from the Soviet Union;

                in connection with overt pressure and interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine and other states, organization, financing and direct participation in an attempted coup, we decide:

                - Denounce and invalidate the agreements and statements made by _____1991 by the presidents of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus as a result of negotiations in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.

                - Bring the text of this statement to all UN member states.

                - Bring the text of this message to interested international organizations.

                - Restore in full the national government bodies and functions.

                - Adopt the legislation of the Russian Federation as a legislative base and create a conciliation body to bring the laws of the republics in line with general legislation.

                - Adopt the constitution of the Union by the general constitution
                SSR, in force at the time of the statement on the termination of the coexistence of the state.

                - Recognize the events in Ukraine as an attempted coup d'etat, and its participants as participants in a coup d'etat attempt and take all measures, including coercive ones, to suppress illegal groups, arrest, or, in case of resistance, destroy their participants and restore constitutional order.

                - Recognize the participants of the coup attempt - citizens of other states as persons who have committed an act of aggression against a sovereign state and are subject to arrest and immediate expulsion from the country, destruction in case of resistance.

                - Immediately bring the text of this statement to the participants of illegal actions in Ukraine.

                - To appoint the President of Russia Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin as the interim head of state.

                - Call the election of the head of the Union State on the second Sunday of April 2014.

                Signed:
                -------------------------------------------------- -

                It is necessary to bring the text of this agreement to as many people as possible (including the presidents of our countries)
                (and don't look for the source of this text. just copy and distribute)
                1. dmitrij.blyuz
                  dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 41
                  +3
                  Ivan! I'm sorry! Is this a Christmas joke?
                  1. Ivan_Ivanov
                    Ivan_Ivanov 28 January 2014 19: 13
                    +24
                    This is the goal ...
                    1. dmitrij.blyuz
                      dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 19: 21
                      +17
                      Tady subscribe!
                    2. gav6757
                      gav6757 28 January 2014 23: 15
                      +9
                      Great goal!
                    3. alone
                      alone 29 January 2014 00: 12
                      +1
                      Yeah, it was especially amusing that there, Yanukovych would sign such a statement. Who are you taking people for? Can it be enough to fantasize? Like an adult, but write as a fact your dreams
                      1. Ivan_Ivanov
                        Ivan_Ivanov 29 January 2014 00: 39
                        +7
                        someone thinks that Yanukovych has steel eggs ...

                        I do not think so. these are actually Putin’s fists.
                  2. Poppy
                    Poppy 29 January 2014 10: 50
                    +1
                    a joke, but not Christmas. Christmas has passed
                2. rus9875
                  rus9875 28 January 2014 19: 02
                  +13
                  It’s not bad to dream, it’s a pity that such a drastic step of the head of our former Soviet republics will not be pulled - their gut, with the exception of GDP and Old Man, is thin, and they are afraid to lose their savings in Western banks
                  1. Ivan_Ivanov
                    Ivan_Ivanov 28 January 2014 19: 14
                    +13
                    Nazarbayev is also a man.
                3. onegin61
                  onegin61 28 January 2014 19: 04
                  -27%
                  Your writings are legally illiterate, I don’t even want to comment on it, read the constitutions of these states, and the powers of the presidents, all that you wrote is bullshit.
                  1. Ivan_Ivanov
                    Ivan_Ivanov 28 January 2014 19: 15
                    +37
                    Write your own, competent. wink

                    Or maybe you think that the writings signed in Belovezhskaya Pushcha were literate and legal?

                    We will be slaves until we understand that the strength of human will is primary, and the legal subtleties are secondary.
                    1. alone
                      alone 29 January 2014 00: 14
                      -1
                      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                      signed in Belovezhskaya Pushcha


                      This signed, as it were, formalized what has already happened, all 15 republics declared their independence and many countries recognized their independence. The Bialowieza Forest was just a de jure document confirming what has already happened de facto.
                      1. Ivan_Ivanov
                        Ivan_Ivanov 29 January 2014 11: 54
                        +2
                        So you can justify anything.

                        Someone violated the law, robbed a person ... They took and signed a document "de jure confirming what has already happened de facto" ??? So what do you think?

                        I’ll tell you a secret, the republics that were part of the USSR de jure have always been independent.
                  2. JIaIIoTb
                    JIaIIoTb 28 January 2014 20: 26
                    +16
                    Quote: Onegin61
                    Your writings are legally illiterate, I don’t even want to comment on it, read the constitutions of these states, and the powers of the presidents, all that you wrote is bullshit.


                    Are you scared? smile
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                  4. Astrey
                    Astrey 29 January 2014 13: 24
                    +1
                    And did someone look at the Soviet Constitution in '91?
                    Give fantastic!
                4. archimedes 33
                  archimedes 33 28 January 2014 19: 37
                  -17%
                  stunned what a fantasy
                5. homosum20
                  homosum20 28 January 2014 19: 38
                  -31%
                  We have enough provocateurs. In addition, you mixed something up - today you have a meeting place on the Maidan, and not here.
                  1. invisibility
                    invisibility 28 January 2014 19: 57
                    +30
                    Where do you see provocation? Comrade, expressed his opinion, his goal! Great goal! Return your homeland, is this your provocation?
                    1. homosum20
                      homosum20 3 February 2014 16: 03
                      0
                      The desire to return to their homeland is patriotism. The comment slid down.
                  2. homosum20
                    homosum20 31 January 2014 15: 47
                    -1
                    Stunned how many fools. This is how reality is known - in the minuses.
                    To administrators - I would like the comment to be located where I posted it, and not 10 lines below. Thank.
                6. gav6757
                  gav6757 28 January 2014 23: 13
                  +8
                  Oh, these words, yes - to the designated presidents, in the ears !!! I probably would have celebrated a week, even drank alcohol !!! God grant that it be so!
                  1. Ivan_Ivanov
                    Ivan_Ivanov 28 January 2014 23: 30
                    +8
                    in any case, we can do our best to ensure that these words reach the destination. 1. flood the Internet with them.
                    2. send to the office.
                    3. maybe you come up with something - do it.
                7. Criceta
                  Criceta 29 January 2014 00: 09
                  -6
                  You can also understand if the Kirghiz, Tajiks, Uzbeks wrote such nonsense ... They would at least sign something if only to become "Tozherossians".
                  But Belarus, Ukraine, Armenia - is doubtful.
                8. sergey d
                  sergey d 29 January 2014 06: 03
                  0
                  subscribe !!!!!!!!
                9. skeptic
                  skeptic 29 January 2014 11: 08
                  0
                  Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                  - Denounce and invalidate the agreements and statements made by _____1991 by the presidents of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus as a result of negotiations in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.


                  Dreams, dreams - where is your sweetness
                  dreams are gone - stayed ...

                  TO GREATEST SORRY.
                10. Val_y
                  Val_y 29 January 2014 11: 47
                  +1
                  Hehe CLASS, I would really like to hear that, otherwise banderlogs with fascists and bandits with pederasts are already very much FOR ..... angry A koment really CLASS !!!!!!!!
              2. baltika-18
                baltika-18 28 January 2014 19: 27
                -7
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                All those whom you heavily water mud

                Well, we’ll put it not with mud yet, and so we will scold it slowly.
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                The slogan "Select and Divide, and the bourgeoisie for a count!" Has become justice. (the same was in 1917)

                What do you suggest?
                1. sledgehammer102
                  sledgehammer102 28 January 2014 19: 42
                  +3
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  What do you suggest?


                  The current state of affairs does not cause me great enthusiasm, only cautious optimism, but I know for sure that another layout for "fairness" will not bring anything good, but only another step back 20 years, as has already happened in our history and more than once , and the consequences of this, as well as the fight against them (consequences) cost a pretty penny, which was measured in human lives.

                  Both after 1917 and after 1991, good intentions paved the way for the country to scaffold, and only God, the very one whom millions of Russians, both Christians and Muslims ask for mercy and forgiveness, saved us from inevitable oblivion.
                  1. baltika-18
                    baltika-18 28 January 2014 21: 02
                    -3
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    The current state of things does not cause me great delight, only cautious optimism

                    I have concerns so far. Stability is good, but there’s no way to build on the future. Have you ever wondered what would happen if oil collapsed to 60 a barrel?
                    1. old rocket man
                      old rocket man 29 January 2014 04: 10
                      +8
                      Quote: baltika-18
                      Have you ever wondered what would happen if oil collapsed to 60 a barrel?


                      What will happen? Nothing will happen. Yes, imported junk and rubber sausage will disappear in supermarkets, but it will appear its own, it may not immediately appear. The merchants and bankers will become poorer, the working people will not have strong shocks, the office-bank plankton will cool down and, accordingly, will gangster to the roofs
                      1. Criceta
                        Criceta 29 January 2014 11: 19
                        -1
                        You should write fairy tales about the triumph of socialist ideas in a single country. You are a dreamer.
                        Do you know. what really happens if oil drops to $ 60.
                        1. Most social programs will decline.
                        2. Funding for the remnants of free education and medicine will be reduced.
                        3. The pension system may be covered, because the accumulation of past years has failed on Khutin megaprojects, and there will be nothing to close this cash gap with.
                        4. Import will rise in price, you correctly noticed that, only a domestic manufacturer swings sooooooo soon. And since even in domestic goods there is a fair share of imported components, then Russian ones will also rise in price.
                        5. Naturally, all this will happen amid falling consumer demand from the population. And this will lead to a massive bankruptcy of small entrepreneurs in the service sector.
                        6. The dollar with the Euro will naturally rise.
                        7. People will have to give up their usual way of life, reduce consumption, but this can lead to mass discontent.
                        And then - turn on the fantasy. Change of government, the growth of separatism, etc.
                        So your optimism that the hard workers will not become poorer is in vain. They will and will become in the first place ...
                      2. Val_y
                        Val_y 29 January 2014 11: 54
                        +2
                        Listen dear, this is why oil will fall in price (if not artificially) if it, every day, by millions of barrels in the Earth, becomes smaller, and more cars on the planet. It will not become cheaper, but only more expensive, as there are no alternative sources (cheap enough), well, except gas, of course.
                      3. Criceta
                        Criceta 29 January 2014 12: 02
                        -2
                        So I think that does not fall. Just a couple of messages over mine, people are worried about this and let's draw the kingdom of heaven on earth at a price of $ 60.
                        In general, it can fall to $ 60 in two cases.
                        1. The collusion of the United States with the camps of the dumping.
                        2. The lifting of the domestic ban on the export of crude oil from the United States. This option is now being discussed in the US government and none of this is making a secret.
                        Naturally, both options, if held, will bring down our economy. But we ourselves can’t really influence, so we just have to sit and nervously smoke aside.
          2. demon184
            demon184 29 January 2014 09: 44
            +1
            And Ukraine does not learn from the mistakes of the past
          3. Lapotnik
            Lapotnik 29 January 2014 11: 18
            0
            Somehow you contradict yourself:

            "All those whom you are strenuously pouring mud came from our beloved USSR - a country that the people destroyed with their own hands."

            "Finally, it came to light that those events were a typical divorce of the masses for" justice "and" patriotism ", where the basic concepts were imperceptibly replaced."

            So who ruined? The people, or the hands of the people, stewing their brains? I would not have at all encouraged people to participate in the collapse. Since a bunch of garbage was falling apart, it crawled out into the light of white, but the people just saved the country, though not all, but saved it. Contrary to the hopes of many. Interestingly, this article does not mention yet another fact - during a referendum for the preservation of the USSR, the majority voted in favor.

            Given this - with whose hands they ruined it, so to speak?
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          5. Astrey
            Astrey 29 January 2014 13: 22
            +1
            I was 13 years old then and I did not understand - why destroy my country without a clear alternative?
            It is not clear now. But self-destruction has become fashionable. Drug and pop music as the ins and outs of post-Soviet life.
            In most regions, existence has become as it was under fascist occupation - there is neither life nor death but there is constant dying.
            It’s good that TV doesn’t call for suicide - it’s even cheaper than the color revolution.
        2. dmitrich
          dmitrich 29 January 2014 02: 57
          0
          did you want nemtsov?
      2. muhomor
        muhomor 28 January 2014 17: 16
        +1
        It also seems to me that Shoigu may be the next president. But one cannot hope for his "Soviet" orientation. Shoigu is a loyal Putin, the creator of "Ed. Ross." an unconditional supporter of the real masters of Russia, the criminal oligarchy. So the ruling class will remain in power, and Shoigu will play the role (like the LADIES) of the hen of the place for the GDP. Although the GDP can safely go for a second term. With all that, it should be noted Shoigu's pragmatism and competence in work, as well as in the ability to select a sensible team.
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 28 January 2014 17: 37
          +9
          It also seems to me that Shoigu may be the next president

          He is already 58 years old. No matter how much I respect him, I don’t want to return to the Communist Party (everyone remembers Brezhnev who wanted to leave himself and kept him as Lenin in the mausoleum, and then ANDROPOV, etc., died like flies from old age and then we all remember young bald judah.
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          2. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 28 January 2014 17: 43
            +17
            And where does the Communist Party? The restoration of the USSR (or the Union with any other name) does not imply an automatic revival of the party, at least in that form!
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 28 January 2014 18: 10
              +9
              Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
              And where does the Communist Party? The restoration of the USSR (or the Union with any other name) does not imply an automatic revival of the party, at least in that form!


              There is a good video. Relatively old, but the idea is clear.
            2. GSH-18
              GSH-18 28 January 2014 22: 37
              -6
              Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
              The restoration of the USSR (or the Union with any other name) does not imply an automatic revival of the party, at least in that form!

              And then what does it mean ?? The USSR rested on the ideology of the CPSU. And also on her bone, which led (not without help, of course) to the collapse and collapse of the Great Country! So why the heck to restore an ineffective and vulnerable model of governance ?? To destroy it even more ?! fool It is much more pragmatic to develop an existing one (what is the problem, then? request ) Or do you miss the revolutions, you live too well ?? Well, go to Kiev - let off steam! request Revival of the USSR, in the form in which it was counterproductive and useless UTOPIA.
              Another thing is the deep integration with the Russian Federation of the former union republics by creating common economic, political, financial and military interests. And on this platform the creation of a new, powerful world power pole! yes
              1. Bigriver
                Bigriver 29 January 2014 08: 46
                +2
                Quote: GSH-18
                ... The revival of the USSR, in the form in which it was counterproductive and useless UTOPIA.
                Another thing is the deep integration with the Russian Federation of the former union republics by creating common economic, political, financial and military interests. And on this platform creation of a new, powerful world power pole! yes

                I completely agree with the aim of sharing with you the minuses smile
                No one could enter the future with their eyes turned back.
              2. Patriot
                Patriot 29 January 2014 12: 13
                +2
                and so it is clear that in the form that the USSR could not be restored, but the modern model of governing the country is even worse than in the USSR and most importantly it is not ours, and Western and democracy in general is unreliable and effective only in small states, but in large states leads to disintegration, so that we love to develop a completely new management system, taking into account the experience of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, and we need not deep integration, but integration with the former union republics
                1. GSH-18
                  GSH-18 29 January 2014 17: 25
                  -1
                  Quote: Patriot
                  but the modern model of governing the country is even worse than in the USSR

                  This is a very controversial thesis! (Moreover, given the lack of the Personality Cult, the Gulag, the large number of repressed and executed, the presence of elementary human freedoms, the rapid growth of the economy after the disaster of the 90s caused by the change of order). Under Stalin, there was no such pace! This is indicated in particular by the guards of rocket and aviation production!
                  We do not need the unification of the former republics of the USSR into one country, all the more so, there have already formed their own elites who will not just give cash flows into Moscow’s hands. Let them manage their territories themselves. Russia needs commercial and political benefits. And the status of the CENTER. So you can consolidate much more funds for solving problems in your own economy, and not spray them in the form of huge tranches to support the newly adopted backward territories.
              3. FREGATENKAPITAN
                FREGATENKAPITAN 30 January 2014 15: 02
                0
                Dear colleague! You look and flies, and cutlets together ........ Firstly, why is not effective and vulnerable ???? Europe is creating a single government and is trying to include more and more members in its union (hence the spark from which the Maidan’s flame is in Ukraine) ........ What kind of self-abasement? Why do we always scourge ourselves? Are we armless and brainless? What is utopia? What are you talking about? Why revolution? I did not call for them ...... Unification is development, after 100 years there will be no maximum countries in the current sense ........... Isn't the USA a union of different states? Even 100 (+ -) years ago, these states were cut among themselves in earnest ................, and the last thing that you are attached to the party leadership, and identify with it the creation of the union, confederations, etc. ? The idea is national, regional, pan-Slavic, Eurasian, economic, etc. .......... any! .... can unite nations
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          3. 120352
            120352 28 January 2014 23: 55
            0
            Shoigu guy is not bad, but not a diplomat. And he lacks a common culture.
        2. bugaev2005
          bugaev2005 28 January 2014 22: 10
          -12%
          Especially the psychics team to predict the emergency))) People’s love for Shoigu is very reminiscent of love for early Yeltsin, you listen to what nonsense Shoigu carries when he tries to talk without a piece of paper ...
        3. Bigriver
          Bigriver 29 January 2014 08: 40
          0
          Quote: muhomor
          It also seems to me that Shoigu may be the next president ...

          IMHO, Shoigu is a good administrator, but not a strategist or politician.
          In any case, I did not see any evidence from him (publication, monologue) that would reveal his systematic view of the state.
          Shoigu, as President, has nothing to "mold" from. Just nice and nice leaders don't become Presidents.
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 28 January 2014 17: 24
        +4
        Quote: TiGRoO
        It is believed that Shoigu will be the next president, and he is a Soviet man, so wait and see ...


        And Putin is not Soviet? Born, baptized, studied, served in the Union. What is "Soviet" in your concept?
        1. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 29 January 2014 21: 58
          0
          Well, he was baptized, here is clearly superfluous, Shoigu seems to be a Buddhist, for example, I am an atheist.

          Putin is probably Soviet (I hope so), he is a very cunning person (and it is understandable - the KGB) and no one knows what he was up to, but Shoigu is more consistent, in my opinion, for the following reasons: he speaks less more does ( not like Rogozin), this is obviously decent, knows about the problems and is not afraid to voice them, while setting the task to solve them, personally I am constantly convinced of this, when you need to yell, he does it, but Putin corresponds to a lot, but Putin is trying to please let's say both "white" and "red", but Shoigu is clearly "red", and when asked about his attitude to Stalin, I am sure Shoigu will say clearly - this is a great man whose role in our history is great, as a creator, as a statesman and a winner! And Putin starts trying to please everyone ...
          So my opinion is, Shoigu as a leader is more pleasant for me, and as a person too.

          PS this is my personal opinion, I could be wrong.
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 29 January 2014 22: 03
            0
            Quote: TiGRoO
            but Putin is trying to please, let's say, both "white" and "red",

            Politics is a compromise opportunity.
      4. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 28 January 2014 18: 21
        -3
        I would bet on Sobyanin, Shoigu, maybe
      5. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 28 January 2014 19: 11
        +26
        I remember how Shoigu once said: "I dream of living to see the day when there will be a trial over all who destroyed the Soviet Union."
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        2. Lapotnik
          Lapotnik 29 January 2014 11: 27
          0
          So most politicians said, so what?
      6. alone
        alone 29 January 2014 00: 10
        +2
        In fact, more than half of the members of the forum are Soviet people ... is Shoigu the last of the Mohicans? belay crying
        1. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 29 January 2014 22: 01
          0
          Authorities Shoigu now, but we do not)))
    2. Arberes
      Arberes 28 January 2014 16: 55
      +4
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Are you sure of his ideas?


      Quote: baltika-18
      What was he up to?

      Recently, I also have been tormented by this issue. His plans, as always, are huge!
      Maybe on the fourth or fifth term, all the plans will be fulfilled?
      HOW IN A GOOD, OLD TALE?
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 28 January 2014 17: 08
      0
      A union can be without TIPS and SOCIALISM, economic models can be different as in China, there is one country, two systems.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 28 January 2014 17: 16
        +7
        Quote: RUSS
        A union can be without TIPS and SOCIALISM, economic models can be different as in China, there is one country, two systems.

        I also wanted to give this example. Indeed, capitalism and communism are intertwined (as they say two in one bottle), but China is one republic with Tibet forcibly attached! IN THE SOVIET UNION how we all know everything a little differently! The republics of Asia and the Caucasus, the republics of the Baltic states, well, I won’t talk about our Slav brothers! Each of the republics had their own interests then, and now without a roof under the name of the USSR is this generally utopia? If for a start even the Slavs unite?
        And there we will see ???
        1. polkovnik manuch
          polkovnik manuch 29 January 2014 16: 19
          0
          You need to unite the big four (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan), the rest will start asking themselves
      2. zart_arn
        zart_arn 28 January 2014 17: 35
        -9
        The Union may be without TIPS and SOCIALISM

        If my grandmother had a beard, she would be a grandfather.
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      3. 120352
        120352 29 January 2014 00: 02
        +2
        By the way, Tips is, in comparison with what is now, a more winning management model.
        And today there is a lot of socialism in Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany and many other prosperous countries. To put it simply, socialism is a developed social program: free education, healthcare, a comfortable old age, a lack of homelessness, and a balanced income. Approximately as in the above countries.
    4. yur
      yur 28 January 2014 21: 35
      +3
      Well, that means it will not be the USSR, but the Russian Empire. However, also not bad.
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 28 January 2014 22: 01
        -2
        Quote: yur
        not the USSR, but the Russian Empire. However, not bad either

        First you need to finish school, then a university, live / work and grow wiser. Read this post and be horrified - well, he froze! hi
        1. dmitrich
          dmitrich 29 January 2014 03: 12
          0
          so learn faster.
    5. s1н7т
      s1н7т 28 January 2014 21: 51
      0
      Quote: baltika-18
      Nonsense about the revival of a certain likeness of the USSR on a capitalist-religious basis will remain nonsense

      Right!
    6. s1н7т
      s1н7т 28 January 2014 21: 51
      -1
      Quote: baltika-18
      Nonsense about the revival of a certain likeness of the USSR on a capitalist-religious basis will remain nonsense

      Right!
  2. Andrey57
    Andrey57 28 January 2014 16: 52
    +19
    Hi Ingvar, although a lot depends on the GDP, but this "dependence" affects only the speed of the process, but in no way on the direction. "The effect of the hundredth monkey" (At one time, the Japanese set up an experiment on one island, which was inhabited by 100 monkeys that had no connection with monkeys on neighboring islands, They threw sweet potatoes - sweet potatoes, on the sand, the monkeys really liked sweet potatoes, but they I really did not like the sand, which stuck and crunched on the teeth. Soon one of the monkeys guessed to wash the sweet potato in water, and after that taught other monkeys to do the same. During this training of the monkeys, scientists began to throw sweet potatoes on the neighboring islands. on the first island, the last, the hundredth monkey, learned how to wash sweet potatoes, so at the same time on all neighboring islands ALL monkeys simultaneously "LEARNED" to wash sweet potatoes, and even those monkeys who lived in the reserves of Japan across the country have learned) As soon as we gain the "critical mass" of those who wants to reunite the country, the process will immediately become irreversible, That's why the guys from the West in Ukraine are chopped up - they also know about the "100th monkey effect" laughing
    1. avg
      avg 28 January 2014 17: 26
      +9
      Quote: Andrey57
      As soon as we gain a "critical mass" of those who want the reunification of the country, the process will immediately become irreversible,

      So if we had a normal socialist party with a real program and a sane leader, I think many would vote for it.
  3. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 16: 58
    +16
    Justify my "minus". I, personally, believe PUTIN and Shoigu.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 28 January 2014 17: 44
      +2
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Justify my "minus". I, personally, believe PUTIN and Shoigu.

      I don’t know anyone minus, but faith in a particular person must be justified, it’s not God, that would believe blindly. Belief in a person, in my opinion, should be determined by his ability to follow this word. How many promises did he fulfill, but how many were not? As a percentage. hi
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 03
        +23
        At least Putin is doing what he is obliged to do. According to the constitution, "The President of the Russian Federation determines foreign policy. The Chairman of the Government determines the internal policy." Who determines the internal policy, it is clear. The Army, Aviation, and Fleet are rising. Not so? Data on arms deliveries to the districts you know as well as me. If our site is worse for you. What did Putin fail to do? Didn't he raise the people's life to the level of Germany? So he did not promise this. However, every year Russians buy almost 1200000 cars. Only foreign cars. Apartments-250000000 sq. M. Where does the statistics come from, rummage in the internet. Villages have died out? Many, yes. I agree. But many are reviving. My village , practically "died" in the 90s, now on a big rise. And this is not in the black earth, but in the north of Lake Baikal. By the way, all our villages survived. With difficulty, but overcame the notorious 90s. They live normally. to rise. You just have to be able to live, and not cry. If you live alone, you'll die. All together and saved our villages. hi
      2. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 28 January 2014 18: 47
        +9
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I don’t know anyone minus, but faith in a particular person must be justified, it’s not God, that would believe blindly.

        And what was the foundation of the faith of the generation that exalted to the top of its executioner?


        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Belief in a person, in my opinion, should be determined by his ability to follow this word. How many promises did he fulfill, but how many were not? As a percentage.

        It all depends on how you make promises.
        He spoke about the fight against crime, for example. And what do we see?

        He spoke of a decrease in inflation, and if we exclude the mess in the housing and communal services, then inflation is quite normal for a developing country.

        He said that they would wet all the terrorists and others like them in the outhouse, and what do we see?


        For seven years now, there has been no war in the Caucasus, but only a struggle with undereated tarry.

        He talked about the fact that the standard of living of the population will increase, and it is actually growing. I won’t give average salaries; I’ll give you something in kind. For example, air traffic.


        And so on. Counter arguments in the form of individual facts, such as your VAZ, you can bring a bunch, but TRENDS are more important than FACTS.

        He fulfilled his promises at 70, which is much higher than the same ratio for Western countries.

        And there was not a single country in the world in history that, after the 10 summer war, would become Norway or Germany. It took Stalin the same 20 years to turn a post-revolutionary Russia into a relatively normal country with a stable economy, and then a war ...
        1. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 28 January 2014 19: 24
          +2
          Despite the fact that you can’t argue against the numbers, many continue to assert what they believe in, not paying attention to the numbers.
          1. 120352
            120352 29 January 2014 00: 19
            -1
            And it is better not to assert what you believe in, and sometimes go to the store for food and watch the news on TV. For example, "Duty section".
        2. 120352
          120352 29 January 2014 00: 17
          -2
          With regard to crime and inflation, then, I'm sorry, I live in Russia, and with us everything is the other way around. Do not believe? How much was 1 kg of potatoes last year? And now? That's right, 2 times more expensive. A square meter of housing? Also increased by almost 2 times. Bread cost 18 rubles. now 36. So what's the talk? Few? Look at the fall of the ruble against world currencies. They do not produce industrial goods in Russia (irons, kettles, televisions). All this will rise in price as much as the ruble fell. Or did your salary increase a lot? I still had 19300. And this is considered a good salary.
          Now about crime. Are you on the street? In the evening, when is it dark? Look who's around! Every day on the Internet reports of crimes committed, as reports from battlefields!
          So campaigning for money is probably profitable, but one would have to have a conscience!
          1. V. Tarasyan
            V. Tarasyan 29 January 2014 02: 18
            +8
            I probably live in some other Russia, but not everything is so bad here. Yes, prices are rising, but not twice in a year. Fresh potatoes are always more expensive in winter, last year's in the store is 18 rubles. Bread costs 20-25 rubles. Today I bought a TV set, believe it not, the box says "Made in Russia".
            Of course, the salary is not growing as fast as we would like, but there are always ways to earn some money, somehow you don’t have to sit idle. Sometimes even time in days is not enough.
            And watching the "Duty Station" is harmful to health. They will show several crimes against a big city, but there is a strong impression that they are cutting and shooting around every corner. To paraphrase Professor Preobrazhensky a little, I would say:
            -Do not watch crime reports on TV.
            -But you don’t show anything else ...
            -Not look at anything.
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 29 January 2014 04: 51
              +1
              Quote: 120352
              How much was 1kg of potatoes last year? And now? That's right, 2 times more expensive. A square meter of housing? Also grown almost 2 times.


              2 times more expensive in relation to what? Certainly not in a year has risen in price. In Ufa, everything is calm, with a maximum of 10-12% per year for basic food products.

              Quote: 120352
              Look at the fall of the ruble against world currencies.

              The fall of the ruble against world currencies is more profitable for the Russian Federation than its strengthening. With the growth of the exchange rate, laptops and other goods bought for dollars fall in price, and the fall in the exchange rate has a positive effect on the industry, since the goods are produced for rubles, and are sold for dollars. There have already been a couple of articles on this resource criticizing the authorities, saying that the "boobies" are keeping the course stable, but they should have let it go a long time ago.

              Quote: 120352
              They do not produce industrial goods in Russia (irons, kettles, televisions).

              The vast majority of equipment is produced in Russia, and yes, a lot of brands are Russian, for example, Bork.

              Quote: 120352
              and watch reports on TV. For example, "Duty section".

              If you hold presidential elections on Echo or Rain, then Navalny will win))) Should you be shown "In the world of animals" on duty? And yes, it would be nice to compare releases from different years.
  4. Galinanp
    Galinanp 28 January 2014 18: 08
    +6
    Ingvar 72 (1) RU Today, 16:10 ↑

    Are you sure of his ideas?

    You don't see it, or rather you don't want to see it. I do not presume to judge this is your personal dislike for Putin, or imposed from outside, this is your own business. Your half-question semi-denial sounds somehow strange against the background of the general outcry of the West about this, what is the remark of H. Clinton that the West will not allow Putin to recreate the USSR under the guise of the Customs Union, and the latest statements by American and EU politicians about Russia's unacceptable pressure on the former Soviet republics in order to prevent them from signing an agreement on "Eastern partnership" with the EU and drawing them into the empire they are creating, the cries of representatives of nationalists in the former Soviet republics on this topic. It is not necessary to deny the obvious facts for the sake of personal unpleasantness of someone or something.
  5. starshina78
    starshina78 28 January 2014 18: 15
    +3
    What Putin thinks and what he planned is known only to himself, but what we are doing is visible to all of us. The article is too optimistic, I would not so positively assess the state of relations among the post-Soviet republics. With Belarus, yes it is possible, but Lukashenko sometimes throws such a fortune that at least stand, at least fall; nothing is known with Ukraine, it may happen that Ukraine itself may not exist, but there will be three states; Uzbekistan is drawing closer to the United States, and is moving further away from Russia (as a rooster pecks, it will turn to Russia again); Georgia has set its sights on rapprochement with the EU and joining NATO - this cannot be called rapprochement with Russia, there are small attempts to establish contacts, but the question of Abkhazia and South Ossetia will always stand in the way of rapprochement; Moldova looks to the EU; Azerbaijan conducts its policy and draws closer to Turkey; Kazakhstan, although in the CU, but lives on the principle of friendship, friendship, but the tobacco apart; Krigiziya and Tajikistan are unpredictable when they are beneficial to them with Russia, when not, then at least with the devil himself; Turkmenistan is an oasis of dollars received from the sale of oil and gas, in which Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedov bathes, and he will not let anyone go there; everything is clear with the Baltic states; it is already in the EU and NATO; Armenia holds the way to the CU, but also because of commercial interests, support in a possible war with Azerbaijan. So the second USSR is impossible, and perhaps a commonwealth of states with a single customs zone, possibly an economy, but never with a united political system. All the USSR was gone, and only nostalgia remained!
  • dustycat
    dustycat 28 January 2014 16: 53
    +2
    Who would know his real ideas ...
    In the light of the withdrawal of licenses from small district banks, which at the very least were operators of the national payment system, and the corral of the citizens affected by this, to banks that are operators of the American Visa and Mastercard, it is very alarming.
    What is the use of a decent salary, the receipt of which can be blocked from somewhere from the Fed simply because something in the politics of Russia did not like someone there overseas?
    This is worse than the opportunity for Anglo-American companies to block the supply of bread to the cities of the Russian Empire in 1917.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 17: 03
      +7
      Will the battalion commander tell his ordinary tactical ideas? We will find out ideas and implementations of GDP in due time. We are not of the bird flight that the President would report to us. Adults are men, and you carry such crap.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 28 January 2014 17: 26
        +4
        Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
        , so that the President would report to us. The adults are men, and you carry such crap.

        But I naively thought that the people have the right to know, at least in general terms, where they lead him with their eyes wide shut?
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 17: 42
          +4
          Namely Naivny. Did you give plans to ordinary soldiers during regimental exercises? Do not think that the President will reveal everything and everything. What we need. What we don’t need is not our brains thing. What the hell needs a power that reveals its plans as a whore skirt?
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 28 January 2014 18: 11
            +2
            Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
            .You gave plans to ordinary soldiers during regimental exercises?

            PEOPLE as well as SOLDIERS with OFFICERS must know the task assigned to them and trust their commander (president) and then the task will be completed!
            In general, is it not correct to compare the Army and civil society?
            But with faith, it’s not very good, and who is to blame? Subordinates?
            1. dmitrij.blyuz
              dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 20
              +3
              The tasks are set quite specific and feasible. Nothing more. That the Army is in civilian life. Production, with a creak, but rises too. I believe the President. And as for the comparison of the incorrect Army and civil society, the People and the Army are united. I don’t know that Is it still relevant? Regarding the "religion" - more specifically, please.
              1. 120352
                120352 29 January 2014 00: 41
                -1
                And what specific and feasible tasks are set for you?
                What is where where it rises and is made - it's interesting! Especially after joining the WTO. When was the last time you saw a Russian village? Is this a lift? Even what remains is now compelled to perish. To keep a cow you need to pay more than it costs. The same is true for other pets. Soon you can’t grow a radish for yourself. Have you been promised stability? Get it! Everything is stable, nothing rises, but stably bends. First of all, the village, education, healthcare, culture. But save your soldier’s labor for service in your rising organs. It seems to me that you have full hazing there, and the main violation of discipline is when people think on their own and, God forbid, speak.
                1. dmitrij.blyuz
                  dmitrij.blyuz 29 January 2014 14: 19
                  0
                  Specific tasks for my production have been set and are being carried out. The plant is on the rise. I myself am a village, I see it all the time and I’m there. You don’t tell me about the village. I emphasize everything, all families keep cattle and no one complains. About soldafonshchina is not to me. People do not need to offend. They know how to think and live without reading to you. You seem to have a "soldier" in your head.
          2. 120352
            120352 29 January 2014 00: 28
            +1
            You are not a citizen in spirit, but an ordinary. But normal people are different.
        2. 120352
          120352 29 January 2014 00: 26
          +1
          You are not naive! Just you. unlike the opponent, they read the Constitution. And Putin himself has repeatedly said that he works for hire and serves our interests. According to the Constitution, I repeat, that’s how it is.
      2. sinandju
        sinandju 28 January 2014 17: 47
        +1
        Will the battalion commander tell his ordinary tactical ideas? We will find out ideas and implementations of GDP in due time. We are not of the bird flight that the President would report to us. Adults are men, and you carry such crap.
        He would be a battalion commander if appointed from above. For example Rockefellers or Rothschilds. That you are garbage. The president is a person who wills the will of the people, according to the constitution, and not the battalion commander who was appointed to the post to command us, and if he was appointed from somewhere, then all the more so not a battalion commander, but some kind of coronet. And the fact that he does not report on his ideas may also mean that she may not like the obvious pro-Putinites. wink
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 11
          0
          The President is responsible for the integrity of the country and its people. The plans that are being developed in the Kremlin are not all available to the public. You know such a parable called "State Secret". Development of defense capability, the economy is only a small part of it.
          1. 120352
            120352 29 January 2014 00: 42
            0
            Read the constitution, you will become smarter. In any case, you may cease to carry nonsense.
      3. 120352
        120352 29 January 2014 00: 24
        0
        YOU, maybe a bird, and I have a human brain.
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz 29 January 2014 14: 23
          0
          Didn’t they understand the parable? With Russian sayings you are a little taut.
    2. perfect100
      perfect100 28 January 2014 17: 58
      +2
      there was a lot of Ukrainian money in the Master Bank, it was one of the levers of pressure on the Ukrainian authorities in deciding whether to sign an agreement with the EU.
    3. 120352
      120352 29 January 2014 00: 23
      0
      So we have an occupation regime. And what Putin thinks, his bosses first think.
  • acute
    acute 28 January 2014 16: 59
    +3
    What Putin planned, he did 200%. Only this is not what you thought. No need to live blind and deaf. And brains at your age just need to have
    1. acute
      acute 28 January 2014 17: 13
      +1
      What are you minus ?. Are you the Minister of Finance at Putin? Why do adults have such blind faith in everything that they are fed?
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 17: 23
        +2
        Andrei! People just try to get to the bottom of the matter. Sometimes in such ways.
        1. acute
          acute 28 January 2014 17: 33
          +2
          I do not mind, but do not just be stupid like a log and straight like a pillar. The times of romantics remained in the 60s 70s. I would like to believe in all the best as a pioneer, but ...
        2. 120352
          120352 29 January 2014 00: 45
          0
          You contradict yourself, sir! Either your people must obediently obey, or suddenly they begin to get to the bottom of the matter ... You have already decided on your own position.
      2. ole_ga
        ole_ga 29 January 2014 13: 08
        +1
        akut, I’ll put + and support, you have to be a complete idiot to talk about all your ideas. And you need to evaluate the result, not the intentions.
  • Veteran Vlad.
    Veteran Vlad. 28 January 2014 17: 36
    0
    Quote: TEODOR
    Lord, let Putin manage to do what he intended

    What again subsidized republics on his neck contain them give privileges and privileges, and then again the occupiers, the exploiters, the colonialists - GO TO YOURSELF HOME?NAFIG NAFIG-
    only if PERSONALLY YOU WILL CONTAIN THEM AT YOUR ACCOUNT AND PERSONALLY BECOME RECEIVE FROM THEM.
    Join ONLY BELARUS and UKRAINE
    1. timhelmet
      timhelmet 28 January 2014 18: 11
      +5
      Hello comrades!
      Here I read the comments on the topic "Putin and his ideas." I think the following:
      His plans, as we have heard more than once, include the creation of the Eurasian Union. With competent sovereign, economic, mutually beneficial relations, Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan will bathe in heavenly mana (as they promise). It seems like Armenia is raking, Ukraine is watching, Greece is keeping it secret for now (deep down). Who else can show up. If the case "burns out" and the Union version 2.0 starts working, if it begins to bear very fruitful fruits, then, I think, Georgia, the Baltic states and the rest of the socialist camp will not be long in coming. And in this case, I would (be my will) with great pleasure savoring the groans of "take us back", would put cancer in the political elite of the latter.
      Exhausted by loans, vices, wars, stupid objection to the Yankovskaya rear, a disaster in the energy sector and demography, these countries will forget the word "occupiers" for a while, put back all the monuments to Lenin, and agree to all draconian conditions. Fortunately, Russians have a wide soul. Russians know what it means to "sip grief". We are not like that, not goons and not traitors (managers do not count). Everything will be done according to conscience.
      It seems to me something similar in the plans of our main.
      1. Slavapom
        Slavapom 28 January 2014 21: 13
        +3
        "As we have heard more than once, his plans include the creation of the Eurasian Union." If this is done, it will be possible to restore inter-sectoral ties that were destroyed during the collapse of the USSR. After all, it was the rupture of economic ties that led us in the 90s into that abyss of devastation from which we began to rise in the 00s. I don’t remember where, but I read one very good saying: "He who does not regret the USSR does not have a heart, and the one who dreams of restoring the USSR has no mind." Yes, the return of the old USSR is essentially not possible, but it is NECESSARY to strive for the revival of the Union of the peoples of the former USSR, because this will be our strength, this is the guarantee of our COMMON FUTURE, because if we live alone we will be devoured by the West, and will ask for more ...
    2. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 28 January 2014 20: 49
      -1
      Veteran Vlad.
      Corporal, stop carrying the snowstorm of the time of the hunch building. Once you have been listened to, you have lost the country as a result.
      1. Veteran Vlad.
        Veteran Vlad. 28 January 2014 22: 37
        +4
        Quote: vladkavkaz
        Corporal, stop carrying the blizzard

        NO COMRADE MAYOR - I will not stop
        We’ve heard it already: the occupiers, the exploiters, the colonialists - GO TO YOURSELF HOME in the early 90s
        By the way, the president of Kazakhstan not long ago in Turkey, the Turks complained about the Russian occupation
  • mnn_13
    mnn_13 28 January 2014 20: 12
    +6
    I doubt that everything that happened was planned by Putin. He scolds the interests of Russia, seeks to restore what is possible from the lost after the betrayal of Gorbachov and the binge of Yeltsin. But ego politics is primarily a reaction to the main thing now - the aggressive and aggressive policy of the United States and its Western puppets determined by the permanent economic crisis of the Western system.
    If Esli looks at history, it is evident that the historical role of Russia in the world has always been not to dominate the world, but to restore equilibrium when it is lost (Nolepeon, Hitler, ...). Take for example the war of 1877/1878. Ultimately, Russia won nothing but the freedom of Bulgaria.
    It is clear to everyone that Russia has no choice for Ukraine - it’s not handed over.
    And Wang said so - the USSR will be again. Now it is clear that the aggression of the West will have the opposite result on what he wants.
    1. acute
      acute 29 January 2014 10: 34
      +2
      would you be a political officer
  • s1н7т
    s1н7т 28 January 2014 21: 49
    -1
    Quote: TEODOR
    Lord, let Putin manage to do what he intended

    Is Gazprom privatizing ?! laughing
  • host
    host 29 January 2014 14: 54
    -1
    Respect and respect for Putin !!! Thank God for Putin !!!
    I am increasingly believing in God and God's providence. And I trust in him.
    May God give Russia peace, at least a hundred years, and we will do your will ...
    We will do what we must and whatever happens ...
    1. acute
      acute 29 January 2014 23: 02
      0
      Respect is the same respect, but in English. So that you could write "respect and respect"
      1. Nikoha.2010
        Nikoha.2010 29 January 2014 23: 29
        0
        Good night akut! The tablet froze, I could not write right away. I see your opponents "like" you, minus to the right and to the left. Hold on! I rarely write, but I respect when people have an individual opinion, not a mass one. Good luck!
  • RUSS
    RUSS 28 January 2014 16: 07
    +4
    There is a reaction to every action.
  • Arh
    Arh 28 January 2014 16: 12
    +5
    Belarus and Russia will turn out to be very healthy, at least some kind of at least not big on a prince! ! !
  • Arhj
    Arhj 28 January 2014 16: 14
    +5
    The West is possibly increasing the possibility of reunification of parts of the former USSR, but only its actions are clearly not enough. It is necessary that the people of the united countries themselves want this, and for this we need to work, work and work again, driving this idea into the heads of the citizens of the former Soviet republics. And after the collapse of the USSR, we simply left their information space, allowing us to cut history with impunity and pour mud on Russia. Now it’s not easy to recover what was lost, especially when you consider that real actions in this direction are not visible.
    1. rodiy2007
      rodiy2007 28 January 2014 16: 38
      0
      I agree completely, in nature there is no vacuum. Another bitter experience.
  • velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 28 January 2014 16: 18
    +9
    The collapse of the USSR and the post-disintegration period showed in all negligence the duplicity of the US policy. While the Union was "alive", the United States could not afford it to the full, and now, despite all the information efforts (which help in brainwashing only stupid people), their actions play into our hands (provided that we can take advantage of these ). Against all odds, I believe in The great future of our country.
  • major071
    major071 28 January 2014 16: 18
    +12
    Against this background, a good attitude towards the United States for the first time since November 2008 has fallen below 50% (48%). The high level of good relations with the EU is consistently declining: in November 2010, it was 72%, 2011-th - 71%, 2012-th - 58%, in December 2013-th - 54%. The latter, of course, is connected with the aggressive actions of the EU in Ukraine.

    So it turns out that a large half of Russia's population wants the EU? One thing that interests me is where and by whom such polls are conducted, as well as the categories of people participating there. If you conduct a survey in relation to the EU and the USA somewhere on the periphery, the percentage of a positive attitude will be lower than the baseboard. negative
    1. Platoon
      Platoon 28 January 2014 16: 40
      +1
      Great question! Well, who will answer adequately !?
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 17: 07
        0
        How about the EU yourself? Here is the answer! hi
    2. muhomor
      muhomor 28 January 2014 17: 25
      0
      These polls are conducted without leaving the office and without picking up the handset. laughing
  • crambol
    crambol 28 January 2014 16: 21
    +3
    "There is no Hitler - Germany remains"

    It was different: "Hitlers come and go, but the German people, the German state remains."
    Better not say!
  • Orik
    Orik 28 January 2014 16: 21
    +6
    The author is undoubtedly right, the collective unconscious takes its toll, but ... the enemies do not sleep, in all countries there is an active process of transcoding youth. I want more real steps and actions to prevent changes in the worldview of people. This process is not so long only 40-50 years, half we have already passed with a minus sign.
  • Antony98
    Antony98 28 January 2014 16: 24
    +3
    The question here, it seems to me, is not so much in territorial integrity. The very idea of ​​the brotherhood of peoples is important, a single course to improve life not only at home, but also to help other brotherly republics achieve this goal.
  • Burmistr
    Burmistr 28 January 2014 16: 25
    +4
    Why such confidence about how people relate, for example, to Georgia? In order to be treated normally, Russia needs to be like the USSR at the forefront of its existence, 45-53gg of the last century. And the secret services should have long unraveled a ball called the media, where the legs grow from.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 28 January 2014 16: 26
    +6
    You give the USSR 2 without mistakes and shortcomings of the past. And let the geyropeyts envy, and traitors bite their elbows.
    1. Committee
      Committee 28 January 2014 16: 35
      +1
      It is noticed that traitors better bite their elbows in places not so distant, there it turns out better!
      1. kush62
        kush62 28 January 2014 16: 52
        0
        Quote Committee: It is noted that traitors are better at biting their elbows in places not so distant; there it is better at getting it!

        And it would be better if they had nothing to bite
    2. ty60
      ty60 28 January 2014 22: 21
      0
      However, there was a statement about a return to the constitution. Remove from it an article about the leadership and guiding role of the CPSU, and in general, ANY majority party. I will almost agree. The desire for globalism is again stagnation. Old rake.
  • CALL.
    CALL. 28 January 2014 16: 27
    +9
    The revival process has already begun, and this is well understood in the West. No wonder the attacks on the countries of the new Union intensified. The coup attempt in Belarus and the explosion in the Minsk metro. Unrest in Kazakhstan. The swamp revolution in Moscow. Undoubtedly, in Ukraine, the fifth column of the State Department in the person of Soft Power and Ukrainian nationalists, attempts have been made to destabilize the situation and hinder the coming unification. But all attempts to stop the historical process are futile. We are entering a new round of the historical spiral at a higher level. The West and its lackeys are deceiving promising prosperity to Ukraine, for this they simply do not have money. Why does not Bulgaria, Romania, the Baltic states flourish. The West has always lived well due to the robbery of colonies. What can I say, no more than 70 years ago, European integrators have come to make us happy. Since then, the essence of the West has not changed. The Western project begins to crumble under the pressure of the crisis.
    1. Civil
      Civil 28 January 2014 19: 58
      -3
      Stuffing is impossible to turn back!
    2. ty60
      ty60 28 January 2014 22: 32
      +2
      He who has eyes, sees, He who has a head, thinks up, He who has strength, realizes. Each of us, in accordance with our knowledge and experience, is simply obliged to do everything for RESTORATION, I don’t know how to name the Russian Empire or the USSR? The main thing is not in the name, but in the very essence.
  • Committee
    Committee 28 January 2014 16: 34
    +2
    And I have nostalgia for the GDR, Czechoslovakia.
  • acute
    acute 28 January 2014 16: 46
    +7
    All this is honey. for people regretting the collapse of the USSR. But is it?. I did not conduct social surveys, but I know that the attitude towards Ukraine among people in my environment (read the middle class) is becoming increasingly negative. There are not brothers, but rabid Natsik. They want to go to Europe, so let them go. Tired of their moaning about this. Regarding Belarus state. politics is generally incomprehensible. Various Svanidze smash through the state channels Old Man does not need enemies in the west. Ordinary people are not bad, but look what 23 years of propaganda have done in Ukraine. And in Georgia, most of the population (especially young people) do not like us (the results of the same propaganda and war), and the people have a cool attitude towards Georgia (I don’t know where you got 51%). do not wishful thinking. We have left two friends Nazarbayev and Old Man who want to live in friendship with us. In other states, the elite will not make an alliance with us. It is true and do not feed yourself with dreams
    1. kush62
      kush62 28 January 2014 16: 57
      +4
      I wonder why there is no% attitude of our citizens to Kazakhstan?
      Although the attitude to the country and to people are two different things.
      I have many relatives and friends in Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
      And if the authorities are not the right people, relatives and friends do not cease to remain so.
      I am for the UNION.
      1. acute
        acute 28 January 2014 17: 37
        0
        But who is against it ?. But in the same river twice ... In addition, all empires are inevitable death. And the USSR, despite all the good things that were there, was an empire. It's not me. Lenin said it.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 28 January 2014 19: 16
          +9
          So that there is no repetition of the USSR, it is necessary to create a real UNION. When everyone lives on their own pockets, and not on free grants from others, that sooner or later will lead to collapse at the time of the crisis. Let everyone decide what and where to build, taking into account the interests of all neighbors, of course. Who needs support, please, but in the form of targeted loans (soft or not).
          Together we can solve important foreign policy challenges and the security of our borders, defense capabilities, common standards and GOSTs, the complementarity of our economies and food security, a common or similar legislative framework, important strategic facilities or industries, and a high standard of living - as task number 1. Do not climb into each other’s internal affairs and respect the opinions of each participant.
          That is my opinion. hi
      2. Kasym
        Kasym 28 January 2014 19: 00
        +4
        Dear KUSH62! Thank you for your attention to the RK. This percentage is slightly lower than in Belarus. That is in 2nd place. At least we had such information. And when there were graters with Belarus in transit, then in general 1 place. drinks hi
    2. muhomor
      muhomor 28 January 2014 17: 34
      -2
      That's for sure. When the Union was dragged to national feeding troughs, each elite got its own trough. And it will not give up voluntarily. You give an idea for the middle class of the post-Soviet republics! This idea is SOCIALISM. Give the Communists to the government! fellow
    3. ty60
      ty60 28 January 2014 22: 36
      -1
      My friend, we love Transcarpathian gasters more than Moldavians. Especially in Gazprom.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 January 2014 16: 53
    +5
    The history of Russia, Russia is cyclical .. It self-destructs, but then it unites anyway and becomes even more powerful. Such is probably the essence of our nation (or, in another way, the mystery of the Russian soul). We cannot live by the principle of my hut from the edge and we are not bad to feed us here either .. That's how we live..
    1. ty60
      ty60 28 January 2014 22: 40
      0
      And why do we exist then, Time-RUSSIA to collect!
  • dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 16: 54
    0
    Domestic sociologists have revealed an interesting fact: for the first time in many years, the share of Russian citizens belonging to Georgia positively exceeded 50% (51% as of December 2013 of the year).
    I wonder why they didn’t ask those fighters who fought there. I have nothing against Georgians (not a fogged population). There are a lot of good and helpful people. I was in 91 in Gori. Chic! Nobody was afraid of the Russians. They considered us friends. Politicians are all fucked up ... but. But to a sociological survey, without evidence, alas, I do not believe it.
  • dustycat
    dustycat 28 January 2014 16: 55
    0
    "It's very good that we feel bad so far!" (c) Aibolit 66.
  • 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 28 January 2014 16: 57
    -2
    Does not exist unfortunately
    “Collective Soviet consciousness”, author S. Chernyakhovsky

    as evidenced by the variety of comments on any issue discussed on the site. In the same way, the "historical community-the Soviet people" did not exist in nature, which was shown by the catastrophic collapse of the USSR. It is not forbidden for anyone to want (wish) the revival of the USSR, but only there is no party in Russia, to the delight of the shadow rulers, a party (union) capable of performing such a task. And the modern ruling stratum of the backbones is capable of acting only according to the principle of the old parable: "... to a neighbor twice as much? Pluck out my eye!"
    1. muhomor
      muhomor 28 January 2014 17: 36
      0
      SUCH party is! soldier
  • WIN969
    WIN969 28 January 2014 17: 00
    +13
    There will be no restoration of the USSR, just as there was no restoration of the Russian Empire. There will be the formation of a completely new empire which can and will be called the Eurasian Union, a union of independent states with a common history and culture. The new empire will bring together all the best that was during the RI and the USSR.
    And the emergence of such an empire is inevitable in the near future.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 17: 19
      +9
      Your, I hope, personal opinion? Not in solidarity with you. The USSR will no longer be named, but Russia will always remain the capital, everywhere and always. Even when Europe disappears, there will be no "eas". There will be ROSSIYA. This word is ordained by God for us.
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 28 January 2014 21: 12
      +1
      It will be Sarmatia! winked
    3. alone
      alone 29 January 2014 00: 20
      -4
      Quote: WIN969
      There will be no restoration of the USSR, just as there was no restoration of the Russian Empire. There will be the formation of a completely new empire which can and will be called the Eurasian Union, a union of independent states with a common history and culture. The new empire will bring together all the best that was during the RI and the USSR.
      And the emergence of such an empire is inevitable in the near future.


      WIN, but did you even ask at least the countries if they want this union. Have you taken and connected everything in one fell swoop?
  • atos_kin
    atos_kin 28 January 2014 17: 00
    +4
    Russia will flourish and not only the countries of the former USSR will be drawn to it without propaganda. Only working people should flourish, not ghouls from the screens.
  • acute
    acute 28 January 2014 17: 04
    +2
    Quote: TiGRoO
    It is believed that Shoigu will be the next president, and he is a Soviet man, so wait and see ...

    you are sure of what you write. A person has been in power for more than 20 years and at the trough. and you dream that he will exchange his well-being for some ideas, don't be ridiculous. Compare the Shoigu of the early 80s and the present, and everything will fall into place. And you are "he is a Soviet man" now
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 17: 38
      +3
      Andrei. Bend. Without knowing the ford, do not climb into the water. Do not hate Kuzhegetich. Nikhren, it seems you do not know about him. Look at the history of his formation. Yes. I drank vodka with him in 92, when the Regional Center of the Emergencies Ministry was just being created in Krasnoyarsk. We started with the helicopter squadron of the Cheremshanka airport. From our squadron, we transferred everything we needed there. Colonel Vakil Mahmudov was the commander of the Emergencies Ministry squadron. Shoigu's left-handed friend, Afghan, As. He died in 1999 near Krasnoyarsk. You don’t know the person, you don’t need to talk about him. When I was still an elder, Shoigu climbed and flew around all the surrounding garrisons, in search of sensible sites for San Aviation. We climbed up to Vanavara. I never heard a bad word, or I didn’t hear it down. So think what you say before insulting a person.
      1. acute
        acute 28 January 2014 17: 57
        +1
        I do not argue about what he was. I'm talking about what has become. Seafood processing and other business. I don’t scold him, he lives and works with those people who earn 2 million rubles a day (members of the government). what do you think they do not see anything there. Ordinary people collect money for children on operations abroad (the state has no money), but they "earn" 2 million a day ... well, is he the only one who is crystal honest? And if so what is he doing with them, he would spit, and retire
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 30
          +2
          Yes, Andrey. hi It seems that Kuzhegetich is the only crystal clear person. According to the commandment of Peter the Great- "For Russia. Not sparing his belly."
      2. AK-47
        AK-47 28 January 2014 18: 52
        +1
        Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
        I drank vodka with him in the 92nd year
        Yes, an iron argument, convinced.
  • shelva
    shelva 28 January 2014 17: 05
    +2
    The USSR cannot be returned, but an alliance of three Slavic states plus Kazakhstan would be possible if the ambitions of the heads and governments did not prevail.
    Whether Georgia will join the union or not, Abkhazia and South Ossetia cannot be returned to them.
  • dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 17: 12
    +3
    Quote: TiGRoO
    It is believed that Shoigu will be the next president, and he is a Soviet man, so wait and see ...

    Kuzhegetich will NEVER run for president. This is a man of action. Practice. He needs air. He is a man of the Russian field. No matter how many try to find him, he is the only minister who is not involved in anything. He’s just a smart guy! IMHO .
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 January 2014 17: 29
      -4
      Many will consider my statement stupid, but Shoigu as president does not suit me personally because of his religion.
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 33
        0
        You will not prompt his religion? For the sake of curiosity!
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        2. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 29 January 2014 22: 11
          0
          I could be wrong, but it seems to be a Buddhist.
          1. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz 30 January 2014 13: 58
            +1
            Shoigu-Khakas. Born in Khakassia. This is in the region of the Krasnoyarsk Territory. Religion there, you are right, Buddhism. But he is an atheist. Just like all of us, he believes in his God.
            1. TiGRoO
              TiGRoO 30 January 2014 15: 04
              0
              It’s good for me as an Atheist to hear it))) now I’ll definitely vote for him)))
              1. dmitrij.blyuz
                dmitrij.blyuz 30 January 2014 15: 07
                +1
                What is the vote? He will not go to the presidency. He himself knows what he needs. drinks I am also an atheist. Although baptized!
                1. TiGRoO
                  TiGRoO 30 January 2014 19: 32
                  0
                  It’s a pity that it won’t work (I would really like such a leader of our country.
      2. TiGRoO
        TiGRoO 29 January 2014 22: 08
        +1
        That is why Shoigu and more Soviet people. He doesn’t have a PGM, like some, and my opinion as an atheist is better that the President is a Buddhist than an Orthodox!

        PS minus the gentlemen Orthodox, I will not be offended)
    2. acute
      acute 28 January 2014 18: 01
      0
      I'm wildly sorry, but you can't be crystal clear in a swamp
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 32
        0
        Shoigu is not in a swamp. Its structure becomes on its own. Submission is only to the President.
      2. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 28 January 2014 19: 37
        +1
        Quote: akut
        I'm wildly sorry, but you can't be crystal clear in a swamp

        For your information, in a swamp any object is stored for much longer than even in pure water.
        1. acute
          acute 28 January 2014 20: 21
          0
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: akut
          I'm wildly sorry, but you can't be crystal clear in a swamp

          For your information, in a swamp any object is stored for much longer than even in pure water.

          Well, firstly, not any subject. And the man certainly will not keep the former freshness
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 28 January 2014 20: 59
            +1
            Quote: akut
            And the man certainly will not keep the former freshness

            A person can be on earth, not the first freshness. And the body that lay in the swamp for a very long time, is less prone to decay than anywhere else on earth (except for permafrost).
            1. acute
              acute 29 January 2014 11: 00
              0
              Well, you write yourself: a body lying in a swamp. Well, what are you talking about ?. Well, it's better to freeze everyone, we’ll survive longer.
    3. ty60
      ty60 28 January 2014 22: 47
      0
      I believe. Paper gatherings are not for everyone. However, if there is no one else but DAMA, he will run.
  • acute
    acute 28 January 2014 17: 16
    -3
    Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
    Justify my "minus". I, personally, believe PUTIN and Shoigu.

    Oh well. Blessed is Kio. And why aren't you president ?. Something is missing. I guess what
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 17: 50
      +1
      We didn’t drink at the Brudershawt. Poke your grandmother. I don’t dream about the presidency. I have enough of my military path. And if you have mania, this is your problem. It seems that you tried to fly too high, but something .
      1. acute
        acute 28 January 2014 18: 03
        +3
        Well, we all tried something once. But this is not ambition, this is life and she pokes her face in the dirt. Sorry for the slaughter "you" and really is not good
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 35
          +1
          We drove through. drinks Life is life!
  • ultramarin
    ultramarin 28 January 2014 17: 17
    +1
    It would be good if similar moods appeared in Ukraine, Belarus and Georgia. One Russian mood is not enough.
    1. muhomor
      muhomor 28 January 2014 17: 40
      0
      It is necessary to work with Ukrainian voters and the elite, and Bogdan Khmelnitsky will also appear in the mood.
  • Committee
    Committee 28 January 2014 17: 18
    +4
    Film Ladoga. Emigrants in the lead roles. In the plot - that people sink to a bestial state. This was not the case. My grandmother saw everything with her own eyes dying in the first winter. Then the city was cleared of corpses. A cry was given and the hungry, half-dead people responded to it, clearing the city of death! They went and cleaned up the frozen people who died right on the street! She remembered it all very well. I would not let Serebryakov enter the country for such a "movie". Forgive me for not being in this, but outraged!
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 January 2014 17: 22
    +2
    Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
    Quote: TiGRoO
    It is believed that Shoigu will be the next president, and he is a Soviet man, so wait and see ...

    Kuzhegetich will NEVER run for president. This is a man of action. Practice. He needs air. He is a man of the Russian field. No matter how many try to find him, he is the only minister who is not involved in anything. He’s just a smart guy! IMHO .

    I agree with you .. Shoigu is not a cabinet official ... A person is not an intrigue, so to speak .. and politics is a dirty business, it’s hard not to get dirty .. God grant him health and vigorous energy in the matter of restoring the Army and Navy prestige and power, holy to Russia!
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 28 January 2014 18: 38
      0
      Shoigu does not get dirty! Not so, in fact. hi
      1. Genur
        Genur 28 January 2014 19: 21
        +4
        However, he does not refuse Masonic awards!
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz 29 January 2014 14: 32
          0
          They do not refuse awards. This is politics.
  • Nasty pirate
    Nasty pirate 28 January 2014 17: 29
    +1
    In Russia, the attitude towards the USSR is improving, while in Ukraine, the attitude towards Russia, Russians and the USSR is getting worse. And while the Ukrainian media will remain Russophobic, the attitude towards us will continue to deteriorate. Therefore, we are now further and further from Ukraine and from the restoration of the USSR.
    1. acute
      acute 28 January 2014 17: 40
      0
      Well done. Not just getting worse, they're just antagonizing us
  • acute
    acute 28 January 2014 17: 39
    0
    Quote: Committee
    And I have nostalgia for the GDR, Czechoslovakia.

    you did not confuse with another word ?. The Czechs still oh how they do not like us
    1. Sour
      Sour 28 January 2014 19: 12
      -2
      Quote: akut
      The Czechs still oh how they do not like us

      And when was the last time you were in the Czech Republic?
      I got the impression that they treat the Russians better than, for example, the Bulgarians. And much better than the Ukrainians.
  • klim44
    klim44 28 January 2014 17: 39
    0
    It’s time for the author to understand long ago that the USSR will not be reborn. Although 100% of the citizens of the Russian Federation will be for a new union, the ruling elites and citizens of other former republics will be against it. The Baltic countries - as they say without comment, the Republic of Central Asia - the RF doesn’t feed them badly, Ukraine - you can see for yourself what’s happening there, the Caucasus - probably only Armenia can agree to a new union, Belarus remains and that’s only because the old man wants to become President from the Union State (he has long outgrown his republic).

    Here is another passage, in my opinion: “The more the West tries to offend Russia by including its territories in its zone of control, the more the“ collective Soviet ”will play in its positioning and the more it will seek to punish the“ new Versailles predators ”. " What territories of the Russian Federation are we talking about? About the Smolensk Region or, for example, the Primorsky Territory? I think not, the author considers the former republics of the USSR, now independent states, and these states, without the advice and permission of the Kremlin. they can choose with whom they communicate and with whom not. What they use, they need to get buns from the Russian Federation, they begin negotiations with the West, immediately a shout follows from the Russian Federation and the desired buns. That is, these very republics shamelessly deceive the Russian Federation, and our politicians turn a blind eye to this, pretending that they still control these territories.
  • FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 28 January 2014 17: 44
    +1
    At the beginning of the 90, many were for the west, they thought that having broken the USSR, we would immediately heal as in the west, i.e. like in a dream. We were deceived, and now there is not a single gram of faith to the west. But they do not understand this and everyone is trying to teach us something, to teach. The result is the opposite.
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 28 January 2014 17: 54
      +2
      we deceived ourselves! They wanted to do nothing and have everything! And it’s impossible. By pike desire, nothing happens!
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  • acute
    acute 28 January 2014 17: 45
    +2
    Quote: klim44
    It’s time for the author to understand long ago that the USSR will not be reborn. Although 100% of the citizens of the Russian Federation will be for a new union, the ruling elites and citizens of other former republics will be against it. The Baltic countries - as they say without comment, the Republic of Central Asia - the RF doesn’t feed them badly, Ukraine - you can see for yourself what’s happening there, the Caucasus - probably only Armenia can agree to a new union, Belarus remains and that’s only because the old man wants to become President from the Union State (he has long outgrown his republic).

    Here is another passage, in my opinion: “The more the West tries to offend Russia by including its territories in its zone of control, the more the“ collective Soviet ”will play in its positioning and the more it will seek to punish the“ new Versailles predators ”. " What territories of the Russian Federation are we talking about? About the Smolensk Region or, for example, the Primorsky Territory? I think not, the author considers the former republics of the USSR, now independent states, and these states, without the advice and permission of the Kremlin. they can choose with whom they communicate and with whom not. What they use, they need to get buns from the Russian Federation, they begin negotiations with the West, immediately a shout follows from the Russian Federation and the desired buns. That is, these very republics shamelessly deceive the Russian Federation, and our politicians turn a blind eye to this, pretending that they still control these territories.

    Regarding the Old Man does not agree. Iron man. He would have our resources, he would build everyone as it should. We cannot fight with our thieves, so he showed how to do it. I did not give up the state. ownership of the eating of our bandits and Putin showed how to work
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 28 January 2014 19: 41
      +1
      Quote: akut
      We cannot fight with our thieves, so he showed how to do it. I did not give up the state. ownership of the eating of our bandits and Putin showed how to work

      No need to idealize Lukashenko. Without Putin’s consent, the Old Man would not have lifted a finger. He did what Putin needed and nothing more.
      1. acute
        acute 28 January 2014 20: 16
        -3
        Dreaming you will see how it developed, how our media rushed at first to Lukashenko, and then everything calmed down. As if nothing had happened. Although the winner is visible to the naked eye. Regarding idealization: Why then do you idealize Putin and company? I would like to receive an answer
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 28 January 2014 20: 51
          +2
          Quote: akut
          how our media initially rushed at Lukashenko, and then everything calmed down

          And who owns these media? The liberals thought it was Lukashenko’s initiative, and when they saw that Putin was silent, they realized that something was wrong here too, or did you think Putin would be silent if Lukashenko did all this without his knowledge? He was not afraid of America, but then some sort of Old Man. Take off your pink glasses. Putin needed to remove Karimov, and he did this with Lukashenko’s hands. That's the whole solitaire game. But I do not idealize Putin, but I say what I have. And not to see it is simply stupid.
          1. acute
            acute 28 January 2014 21: 43
            -1
            Not all media in Russia are owned by oligarchs. Putin is silent a lot about statements from the West. And in general, we react poorly to their deeds and statements. But your solitaire is painfully simple. Based on your arguments, Lukashenko is not afraid not only of America, but, in general, of ANYTHING. for a long time he ...
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 29 January 2014 09: 16
              +1
              Quote: akut
              Not all media in Russia are owned by oligarchs. Putin is silent a lot about statements from the West

              Not all, but the majority. And it was the "independent" media that raised the fuss. And Putin always gives an answer to the statements of the West, sometimes verbally, sometimes with his own deeds. You just need to compare the facts. On Lukashenko's expense: if Russia were not a partner of Belarus , then it is not known how he would have behaved. He knows that Russia will not give Belarus offense, hence his behavior.
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 28 January 2014 17: 52
    -2
    What our uneducated population, they don’t know at all the history of the last 300 years! Mizobra got her way. You read komenty in the internet and you wonder - the work of the media has paid off. But just take the sources in the library and read !!!
    1. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 28 January 2014 18: 14
      +8
      Quote: vezunchik
      What is our uneducated population

      agree
      Quote: vezunchik
      Myзimage


      Quote: vezunchik
      has achieved

      images-wed clan -washed
      Quote: vezunchik
      доla fruit.

      Quote: vezunchik
      take

      take wink hi
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 28 January 2014 20: 32
        0
        Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
        Quote: vezunchik
        What is our uneducated population

        agree
        Quote: vezunchik
        Myзimage


        Quote: vezunchik
        has achieved

        images-wed clan -washed
        Quote: vezunchik
        доla fruit.

        Quote: vezunchik
        take

        take wink hi

        good ahead of the line hi
        py.sy.only I still wanted to advise him to read the Russian language textbook for the second grade recourse
    2. Genur
      Genur 28 January 2014 19: 30
      +2
      Quote: vezunchik
      What our uneducated population, they don’t know at all the history of the last 300 years! Mizobra got her way. You read komenty in the internet and you wonder - the work of the media has paid off. But just take the sources in the library and read !!!

      ... with six grammatical errors ... and one typo ... educated ...
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  • RUSS
    RUSS 28 January 2014 17: 52
    +2
    Gentlemen, comrades, forget about the restoration of the USSR, you need to look forward, not backward and only need to move forward. There is no way back to the USSR, nor can we restore socialism and even more so utopian communism; many will call their territories irretrievably lost, as Poland and Finland lost after the 17th. And even more so, forget the tales of the brotherhood of peoples, especially among Armenians with Azerbaijanis, Georgians with Ossetians and Abkhazians, Ossetians and Ingush, Russians and Chechens, etc. + today's events in Ukraine. Unification is possible, but it will not be that Union, and rather will be the Union of independent state-TVs.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 28 January 2014 19: 51
      0
      Quote: RUSS
      Unification is possible, but it will not be that Union, and rather will be the Union of Independent State TV

      Well, actually, there’s already such crap for us. SNG is called.
      Forgot or didn’t know?
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 January 2014 18: 04
    +2
    Quote: NastyPirate
    In Russia, the attitude towards the USSR is improving, while in Ukraine, the attitude towards Russia, Russians and the USSR is getting worse. And while the Ukrainian media will remain Russophobic, the attitude towards us will continue to deteriorate. Therefore, we are now further and further from Ukraine and from the restoration of the USSR.

    At the expense of worsening relations between the Ukrainian and Russian people, nonsense (excuse me) the West invested $ 5 billion to maintain and cultivate this in Ukraine .. what we see now (and before .. the Germans also did not sickly put stamps on it .. (in the Second World War and now they’re slipping Klitschko to the Ukrainians) But only from the souls and blood of Ukrainians and Russians you don’t pick out our unity by any money. Believe me, we’ll all remember and shrug our hands (Well, the devil has befouled what he found, don’t know ..)! So there’s everything ahead and what is happening in Ukraine, I think it’s time to open this abscess and understand who and what is worth ..!
    1. acute
      acute 28 January 2014 20: 30
      0
      MIKHAN, I think you are deeply mistaken. In any case, we will not sit at the same friendly table with the Ukrainians
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 28 January 2014 18: 11
    +1
    [quot] Domestic sociologists have revealed an interesting fact: for the first time in many years, the proportion of Russian citizens who have positive attitude to Georgia exceeded 50% (51% as of December 2013). [/ quote]
    they lie belay although ... maybe to Georgia itself, but to the Georgian leadership and people, they’re just lying
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 January 2014 18: 25
    +1
    [quote = andrei332809] [quot] Domestic sociologists have revealed an interesting fact: for the first time in many years, the proportion of Russian citizens who relate to Georgia exceeded 50% (51% as of December 2013). [/ quote]
    they lie belay although ... maybe to Georgia itself, but to the Georgian leadership and people, they’re just lying [/ quote]
    Well, to the leadership and officials (well, there are all sorts of parties) I agree ... But at the expense of the Georgian people I do not agree! They invested a lot of money in Georgia, as well as in other "former" ones, to nurture this feeling towards Russia. Partially I did not argue .. (I even fought ..) Now Ukraine is being pitted ... But all this is useless. Integration is going on for evil to all our spiteful critics. . The information war is going on like in Stalingrad, Leningrad ... we will blow it out and then we will chase all this trash to hell!
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 28 January 2014 18: 33
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      . partially succeeded

      is it partly? in my opinion, without exception. only very old elders do not forget the Soviet past, but there are fewer and fewer
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 28 January 2014 19: 25
        0
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: MIKHAN
        . partially succeeded

        is it partly? in my opinion, without exception. only very old elders do not forget the Soviet past, but there are fewer and fewer

        We have quite a few Georgians living in Russia (there are not a lot of them on TV) and in crime .. I don’t want to set aside anyone. I want to unite in my heart even if I have to fight for it .. Otherwise they will crush us! Georgia, as it were, didn’t buckle, but it will be under Russia! It’s just been and always will be .. Nobody is going to kiss them especially .. Russia is already different! Here is something I so wanted to express ..! And I’m sure to catch saku as somehow he will answer for the death of our peacekeepers ..!
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 28 January 2014 19: 56
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          ! I’m sure to catch saku somehow

          touch the poop, she stinks. maybe let him live under the yoke of fear? it’s unlikely that such a life is comfortable. Yet to continue to frighten him periodically, so that all the ties are eaten up and set to work on his dull pants
  • Dreamer
    Dreamer 28 January 2014 18: 41
    -1
    The USSR is not the ideal to which one should strive
    1. PPL
      PPL 28 January 2014 22: 54
      0
      Indicate then the ideal to which you should strive. Or are you one of those critics who can only harass everyone?
  • delfinN
    delfinN 28 January 2014 18: 45
    0
    [quote = andrei332809] [quot] Domestic sociologists have revealed an interesting fact: for the first time in many years, the proportion of Russian citizens who relate to Georgia exceeded 50% (51% as of December 2013). [/ quote]
    they lie belay although ... maybe to Georgia itself, but to the Georgian leadership and people, they’re just lying [/ quote]
    This Chernyakhovsky either sucked the numbers out of the finger or the enemy bought. After these dolphinous killed 15 of our peacekeepers, there simply weren’t so many idiots in Russia, or only rodents were interviewed in Moscow.
  • delfinN
    delfinN 28 January 2014 18: 59
    +4
    [quote = MIHAN] [quote = andrei332809] [quot] Domestic sociologists have revealed an interesting fact: [/ quote]
  • vakym
    vakym 28 January 2014 19: 10
    +1
    Oh please! I beg your respect your reader!
    If you provide any data (statistical or other) indicate the source!
    And then what article you don’t read, numbers, facts are everywhere, but there are no sources.
  • Vl690006
    Vl690006 28 January 2014 19: 17
    +3
    Judging by the answers, many served and swore even under the USSR. Assignee of the USSR-Russia. And the commander in chief is Putin. So if you swore, you must be faithful to your oath. and not drive the blizzard. Russian (Muslim)
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 28 January 2014 19: 39
    0
    based on statistics, I would not draw conclusions and, which is much more dangerous, I would not be amused by these statistics !!!
    Of course, I wildly hope that the Russian people will be reunited and finally
    "Nightmare of the West" - the process of restoring the territorial integrity of the Union
    still happen!
    But let's be realistic: now our front is bursting at the seams, the enemy is at the gates, Moscow is behind and there is nowhere to retreat!
  • FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 28 January 2014 19: 46
    0
    HALVA, HALVA, HALVA and in the mouth it’s not that sweet, but bitter from the lost!
  • stranik72
    stranik72 28 January 2014 19: 47
    -1
    The restoration of the USSR when today's elites are in power is impossible, this is contrary to their elite's interests, and the interests of their masters from London and Paris.
  • acute
    acute 28 January 2014 20: 08
    -1
    Quote: timhelmet
    Hello comrades!
    Here I read the comments on the topic "Putin and his ideas." I think the following:
    His plans, as we have heard more than once, include the creation of the Eurasian Union. With competent sovereign, economic, mutually beneficial relations, Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan will bathe in heavenly mana (as they promise). It seems like Armenia is raking, Ukraine is watching, Greece is keeping it secret for now (deep down). Who else can show up. If the case "burns out" and the Union version 2.0 starts working, if it begins to bear very fruitful fruits, then, I think, Georgia, the Baltic states and the rest of the socialist camp will not be long in coming. And in this case, I would (be my will) with great pleasure savoring the groans of "take us back", would put cancer in the political elite of the latter.
    Exhausted by loans, vices, wars, stupid objection to the Yankovskaya rear, a disaster in the energy sector and demography, these countries will forget the word "occupiers" for a while, put back all the monuments to Lenin, and agree to all draconian conditions. Fortunately, Russians have a wide soul. Russians know what it means to "sip grief". We are not like that, not goons and not traitors (managers do not count). Everything will be done according to conscience.
    It seems to me something similar in the plans of our main.

    Dreams Dreams. Grow up faster. And in Russia there are enough of those (especially at the top of the pyramid) who are sharply against your good intentions
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 28 January 2014 20: 15
    0
    Quote: baltika-18
    And Putin, what has flown from another planet?

    Putin is not from another planet, but mired in greed and is trying to catch two birds with one stone, to preserve the right of the rich to become richer and to make Russia more powerful with the money left after the general theft. And while Shoigu while compromising, incriminating him in greed, no.
    1. ty60
      ty60 28 January 2014 23: 18
      0
      I didn’t understand something, I clicked on the plus and the minus lit up
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man 29 January 2014 20: 29
      0
      Quote: Алексей_К
      Putin is not from another planet, but mired in greed and is trying to catch two birds with one stone, to preserve the right of the rich to become richer and to make Russia more powerful with the money left after the general theft.


      Putin acts within the framework of the existing constitution and cannot abolish ownership by his own decrees. It was not Putin who elected the deputies, but we all. The president has great power, but not absolute.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 January 2014 20: 16
    0
    Quote: stranik72
    The restoration of the USSR when today's elites are in power is impossible, this is contrary to their elite's interests, and the interests of their masters from London and Paris.

    What I noticed was that the so-called personalities and elites as if they didn’t want, but they have to fulfill the will of Russia .. Charismatic rulers, like weak ones, appear in Russia surprisingly periodically changing each other ... And Russia is getting stronger each time .. USSR it’s I don’t think it’s worth sighing already in the past. Another format will be the state’s more flexible and practical .. (but the core is the same patriotism collectivism faith ..) !!! Russia, at least, has always held onto this trinity ..
  • acute
    acute 28 January 2014 20: 18
    +1
    Quote: vezunchik
    What our uneducated population, they don’t know at all the history of the last 300 years! Mizobra got her way. You read komenty in the internet and you wonder - the work of the media has paid off. But just take the sources in the library and read !!!

    Well, where to go against such whales
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 28 January 2014 20: 29
      0
      Quote: akut
      Quote: vezunchik
      What our uneducated population, they don’t know at all the history of the last 300 years! Mizobra got her way. You read komenty in the internet and you wonder - the work of the media has paid off. But just take the sources in the library and read !!!

      Well, where to go against such whales

      laughing laughing Giants of thought ... (to myself, too)))) wassat
      1. alone
        alone 29 January 2014 00: 21
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Giants of thought ... (to myself, too))))


        and father of Russian democracy wassat
  • anteus2011
    anteus2011 28 January 2014 20: 49
    +1
    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
    It became known that on the first day of the Olympiad, the presidents of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, as well as Kazakhstan, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, are preparing a joint statement. The preliminary text is as follows:

    In connection with the latest events in Ukraine, with the events in Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Belarus;

    in connection with the violation by the United States, Europe, NATO of its obligations to guarantee the integrity and independence of states that have withdrawn from the Soviet Union;

    in connection with overt pressure and interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine and other states, organization, financing and direct participation in an attempted coup, we decide:

    - Denounce and invalidate the agreements and statements made by _____1991 by the presidents of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus as a result of negotiations in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.

    - Bring the text of this statement to all UN member states.

    - Bring the text of this message to interested international organizations.

    - Restore in full the national government bodies and functions.

    - Adopt the legislation of the Russian Federation as a legislative base and create a conciliation body to bring the laws of the republics in line with general legislation.

    - Adopt the constitution of the Union by the general constitution
    SSR, in force at the time of the statement on the termination of the coexistence of the state.

    - Recognize the events in Ukraine as an attempted coup d'etat, and its participants as participants in a coup d'etat attempt and take all measures, including coercive ones, to suppress illegal groups, arrest, or, in case of resistance, destroy their participants and restore constitutional order.

    - Recognize the participants of the coup attempt - citizens of other states as persons who have committed an act of aggression against a sovereign state and are subject to arrest and immediate expulsion from the country, destruction in case of resistance.

    - Immediately bring the text of this statement to the participants of illegal actions in Ukraine.

    - To appoint the President of Russia Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin as the interim head of state.

    - Call the election of the head of the Union State on the second Sunday of April 2014.

    Signed:
    -------------------------------------------------- -

    It is necessary to bring the text of this agreement to as many people as possible (including the presidents of our countries)
    (and don't look for the source of this text. just copy and distribute)