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On the envy of Russian nationalists to the Ukrainian catastrophe

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Now, when on the Maidan they began to find corpses with gunshot wounds, people cut their ears to each other, and a wave of looting, robberies and murders is rolling around the city - it's time to talk about vital things: about Ukrainian lessons for Russia and about the students, these lessons of learning.


Ukrainian events explained a lot and showed not only in Ukrainians. A lot has become visible here.

Let me start by introducing you to the opinion of the current situation of environmental activist and well-known oppositionist Evgenia Chirikova:

“According to Solzhenitsyn, Ukrainian nationalists began to cut the“ bitches ”(informers) first in the Gulag. Something in the Ukrainians laid special. "

Then you can go to the next exhibit and bring to your attention the ode to the Maidan of our Dmitry Bykov's pen:

"Yanukovych, you do not have the strength

This time turn the times.

If you want to decide how in Russia, -

So you have to live like her.

How do Russians teach dragons,

What is the Russian mass chewed -

You draconian laws,

But dragons do not live with you.

We are huge, dead and iron,

We were shackled by hopeless peace

And in the Ukraine - no sleeping sickness,

No Dutch disease like that.

Ban and threaten in a boorish way -

It means to ruin your career:

After all, neither the khan approach, nor pakhansky

Will not work in your edge.

There was half for you

But now you have reached the line:

Ukraine will not want you

Kohl Putin learn you. "

Obviously read envy. The poet D. Bykov envies the Ukrainians that their Maidans are much more fervent than our Marshlands. Item for envy worthy.

However, it is impossible not to notice that, to describe the reasons for such a difference between Bolotnaya and Maidan, the poet leads, to put it mildly, mystical reasons: dragons, deadness and ironness, sleeping sickness, etc. This is all very nice, of course, but it cannot satisfy a really inquisitive person. .

Let's move from environmentalists and poets to more specific individuals.

Here Yegor Prosvirnin already writes to us by the characteristics of advanced consumption:

“It was the nationalists who set the buses on fire, they were the ones who were pushing the Golden Eagle back, it was they who actually forced the Ukrainian authorities to reckon with the opposition.

But the multinational Russian intelligentsia did not notice that only nationalists were storming the “Berkut”, continuing to rejoice in the intermediate victory of peaceful European values ​​over the evil scoop. Victory won by good European elves with magic liberal wands in their hands is no different.

In general, the Kiev protest presented a good lesson to Russian civil society and clearly showed that the protest movement, no matter how wide, is not able to acquire subjectivity without fists. And if you, as in the old joke, still need not checkers, but go, then the only conclusion you have to draw from all this Ukrainian stories, is that a kind word and scrap iron can be achieved incomparably more than just a kind word. ”

And summing up all this poetic-philosophical discussion - the Russian national-conscious philosopher Konstantin Krylov:

“Many people are crying here - how cool is Maidan, how are they burning there, not like our Marsh. With further zaplachka- "Ukrainians can, but we do not."

Ukrainians, of course, are very cool, but do not forget one simple thing. In Ukraine, Ukrainian nationalism was not banned and repressed. It is generally impossible, since all independence is on the only support - on the Ukrainian national idea. It is IMPOSSIBLE to prohibit or repress it, and in no way or form. Unlike Russia, which stands on the exact opposite idea - the power of national minorities and the suppression of the Russians. Accordingly, the generation of the Russian right is already quietly strangled or rotting in prisons.

And the only difference between the Maidan and the Swamp - I emphasize, the only one! - is the Right Sector. Which unites precisely the frostbitten Ukrainian nationalists, the “white bone”. Formed over twenty years of legal development of the right movement. Yes, controlled without baking (but friendly controlled, since baking consists of the same Ukrainian nationalists, only less romantic and more embittered), but in Ukraine they never imprisoned for any “glory to Ukraine!” And even “bander” what is possible.

And without the Right Sector, the whole Maidan scenario would be absolutely Moscow, including the traditional figures of the “negotiating leaders” and so on.

Hence the difference. ”

Let me translate it all into human language.

So, during the time of independence, under the supervision of the Security Service of Ukraine, which most of this independence functioned as a branch of intelligence of the United States and Germany (+ a bit Austria), a nationalist organization was created, trained to create riots and resistance to law enforcement. This organization is currently used as an instrument of a coup d'état and the subordination of the leadership of Ukraine to the will of other states.

In Russia, the situation is quite the opposite. Here the Nazis are "rotted out," and, therefore, the handshaking public, which we had the honor to observe last winter with white ribbons, does not have combat-ready infantry.

There is no one to throw Molotov cocktails in riot police. There is no one to kidnap and torture people. There is no one to attack buses with political opponents.

This means that our FSB, in contrast to the SBU, is an independent special service, and Russia is a sovereign state. It seems to be good.

But it is - in the opinion of a normal person. The post-Soviet nationalist is not like that.

“So, this is how Ukrainians perceive the choice between the CU and the EU. As a choice between the CLEANER, on which it stinks of rot and where vile creatures who have lost their human appearance dwell - and thus the shop. Where you have to work, the earnings will not be so big, and you no coconuts, pineapples. But this is WHITE WORLD. White, clean world, where it does not stink. DOESNT WELL, yes. Russia in the eyes of Ukrainians is a PASSED PLACE. And no matter how many nishtyakov in this nasty place you can find. There are, of course, non-shy people. Yes, and fastidious - if it will be a maz on a cheap buy trash color for resale, why not. But to go LIVE in a KEPAN PLACE - no, it is unbearable. And they want to live away from the filthy Russian garbage BEST. The vanguard of the nation, its wrought gold. "

And there is no difference between the Russian nationalist K. Krylov and the Ukrainian nationalist I. Fahrion.

They have - peripheral nationalism, the ideology of which is that the nation, about which the “nationalist” cares so much, is in fact incomplete. This is a nation of plebeians, "vile creatures who have lost their human appearance." Such a nation can be saved only by forcing (by forcing, because the nation voluntarily voluntarily takes such steps to the nation) it will join the more highly developed community, even if on the rights of people of the second grade - “Where you have to work, your earnings will not be so big , and no you coconuts, pineapples. But this is WHITE WORLD. ”

Work by whom, Constantine? In a recent essay, your colleague identified this type of employment as a “black woman for two”. Do not take it? Or do you offer it to your people?

Naturally, quite by chance, the interests of the “nationalists” coincide with the interests of the White World, which until recently had overseen the SBU.

By chance.

The fact that the ideology of modern post-Soviet "nationalists" repeats in the main theses ("vile creatures that have lost their human appearance") about Russians and Ukrainians propaganda of the Third Reich

- that's a coincidence.

The fact that the geopolitical goals of the Third Reich and the White World coincide, up to commas, does not mean anything.

The fact that the rhetoric of the “nationalists” suddenly became up to the tenth sign coincided with the rhetoric of the Ukrainian and Russian collaborators of the times of the Great Patriotic War — paranoia and Putin's propaganda.

And, of course, it is only our suspicion and suspiciousness that tells us to see corporate interest in the fact that the Russian opposition are so insistently calling for mercy towards the accused in the “swamp case”.

Well, if for one brief moment it is still assumed that all this is not a coincidence, and we are not paranoid, then we get a completely harmonious picture, in which “nationalists”, “liberals”, “ultra-leftists” and “human rights activists” are parts of one mechanism whose purpose is the de-sovereignization of Ukraine and Russia.

And if so, then we can fully agree with their assessment of our power - our power is imputed.

However, what is striking is that when suddenly the brand of “nationalism” suddenly began to be glued to dill and Russophobia. How did this happen?

It's not a secret. Just say this is disgusting, that's silent.

In times of national oppression, the nationalists — that is, fighters for the liberation of their people from the oppression of the invaders — became the best. People with hot hearts, brave men, devotees. Dmitry Donskoy, Gadfly, Evpaty Kolovrat. So told them their love for their neighbors. They stood up against an equal or superior enemy, they relied on the people, they sought their strength and inspiration in it. They dreamed about the development of their people, about progress, about the release of their creative powers.

The people who are now bothering about the topic of national oppression are not concerned with life and death, which immediately tells us about the degree of relevance of the topic, but with the distribution of wealth. That is the work of the commissaries and warrant officers. Well, the people are recruited appropriate - "away from the front, closer to the kitchen." And the fact that they suit each other and the state is not a guerrilla, but a squabble over clothes.

It is clear that professional screening works in this area - not everyone is capable of full commitment in this matter. It is because of this natural selection that K. Krylov and E. Prosvirnin, who conquered the rest of the fauna, came to the top of the nationalist discourse in Russia. And in Ukraine, I'm sorry, Irina Fahrion.

If to put it quite simply, the European / European integration of Russian nationalism is an ideology for Untermensch, which justifies their right to get rations from the White World for selling to him Untermensch-compatriots.

So even here without criminal cases it is clear that it is impossible to legalize such nationalism. Not even because it can become dangerous physically. Not.

Just because it is humiliating.
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    1. jjj
      jjj 27 January 2014 08: 18
      +20
      He simply hesitates to say that the so-called Russian nationalism, which is widely shown to us, is in fact a Western political technology project. Real Russian nationalists do not go to pogroms and do not beat "non-Russian muzzles". The circles of fans of Edik Limonov and Seryozhenka Udaltsov quickly changed idols when the financial streams dried up.
      But I am afraid that now in Ukraine there are "military coordination" and our militants in order to transfer the Maidan to Russia
      1. zart_arn
        zart_arn 27 January 2014 09: 01
        +16
        the so-called Russian nationalism, which is widely shown to us, is in fact a Western political technology project

        It is likely, as likely that this is a homegrown pro-government project. In any case, such a GMO has nothing to do with the above phenomenon.
        Real Russian nationalists do not go to pogroms and do not beat "non-Russian muzzles".
        Real Russian nationalism is expressed in love for its people and the desire for prosperity and success for it, this is when a university teacher mercilessly "knocks" an incomprehensible "face" in spite of any bribery or threats; the "person" who has fallen into lawlessness, and the "face" itself is sent to jail, etc. Alas, if this does not happen, the likelihood of rampant "so-called Russian nationalism" is very high. I regret that a "senseless and merciless rebellion" is blazing in Ukraine, that in the end everyone suffers. I hope for an early remission.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 10: 13
          +11
          Quote: zart_arn
          It is likely, as likely that this is a homegrown pro-government project. In any case, such a GMO has nothing to do with the above phenomenon.


          The strongest move from the Orangemen is to impose on everyone the idea that they are a pro-government project in order to smooth out the angle of hostility, such as their own among strangers. And bulk - the Kremlin’s project, and do not care that American experts on coups shook the hand in yell, and Prokhorov, who called for the division of the Russian Federation into six independent parts — is also his project .... So they began to equate the Natsiks with the pro-Kremlin movement)) )) Already ridiculously simple.
          By the way, Stalin spoke well about the Ukrainian Natsiks at the time, I think this also applies to the situation with this fascist movement in the Russian Federation too.
          1. zart_arn
            zart_arn 27 January 2014 11: 00
            -1
            Do you really think that all pro-government projects, like the government itself, are close and sweet to the people (both Ukraine and Russia are concerned)?
            1. Ivan_Ivanov
              Ivan_Ivanov 27 January 2014 11: 32
              +4
              1. Power is not a muscular young lady to be merciful to all the people.

              2. Where is it said that someone considers ALL pro-government projects to be beneficial?
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 11: 49
                +1
                Quote: zart_arn
                Do you really think that all pro-government projects, like the government itself, are close and sweet to the people (both Ukraine and Russia are concerned)?


                juggling detective.

                It was "Nationalism - a pro-government project" became "Power and pro-government projects are bad."

                And yes, power is not a ruble to be liked by everyone, especially liberals who have already sold their country twice. The first time the Russian Empire, and then the Soviet. And there and there the power was bad, and all those who disagreed with this (or were neutral) were pro-sovereign projects)))
                1. zart_arn
                  zart_arn 27 January 2014 12: 30
                  +1
                  No distortion
                  The strongest move from the Orangemen is to impose a thought on everyone, that they are a pro-government projectin order to smooth the angle of hostility, like yours among strangers.
                  1. sledgehammer102
                    sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 13: 14
                    +2
                    Quote: zart_arn
                    No distortion


                    You are right, without juggling.
            2. alone
              alone 27 January 2014 20: 17
              +1
              Quote: zart_arn
              You really think that all pro-government projects, like the government itself, are close and sweet to the people


              It was not any power of any country, own people to one place!
          2. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 27 January 2014 11: 27
            +4
            +

            All liberals, nationalists, Islamic fundamentalists ... they are all funded from a single source.
          3. kris
            kris 27 January 2014 11: 33
            +1
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            And bulk - a project of the Kremlin

            But did they put him in prison?
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 11: 53
              +5
              Quote: kris
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              And bulk - a project of the Kremlin

              But did they put him in prison?


              Sits on a conditional; at large, he is at the State Department less useful than in prison. Hodor is a prime example.
              Have you heard anything about Navalny during the last 2-3 months? Silence. And he would have been in prison, so he would have been raised to the level of a universal martyr! So, no matter what strange parliamentary and domestic economic decisions our parliamentarians and the president himself personally take, the Ala-Ukraine scenario will not work for us. And this is good! So win!
              1. kris
                kris 27 January 2014 12: 10
                +2
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                ON conditional sits,

                For much smaller amounts, people are pulling real terms.
                The condition for such money is given only to people close to power!
                1. sledgehammer102
                  sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 12: 13
                  0
                  Quote: kris
                  For much smaller amounts, people are pulling real terms.
                  The condition for such money is given only to people close to power!


                  Politics and criminality, although close by, are still different things))) The conditional term is also a term, but the fact that having received it, Navalny has become accustomed to power, that is, its (power) tool is a fact. In this you are right)

                  Another attempt to blind the new Yeltsin failed miserably due to the superiority of the KGB mentality of the main figures in the Russian government.
                  1. kris
                    kris 27 January 2014 12: 22
                    +5
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    Navalny has become close to power, that is, its (power) tool is a fact.

                    he was him. only portrayed a more active oppositionist.
                    passive tame "oppositionists" are sitting in the Duma!
                    1. sledgehammer102
                      sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 12: 29
                      +2
                      Quote: kris
                      he was him. only portrayed a more active oppositionist.
                      passive tame "oppositionists" are sitting in the Duma!


                      Systemic opposition members sit in the Duma, for whom millions of citizens vote, but for Alyosha 0,5-1%.

                      Well, and a more stupid cover for their epic feil, except for the slogan "Navalny is the Kremlin's project", the opponents could not come up with ...

                      Although, if this is so, then this once again proves that at the helm in Russia there are far from * d * and * oty, as various iksperds and analytega try to put them

                      By the way, a good demotivator in the topic. It remains only to add "Navalny - the Kremlin's project" to it. This is how foreign states refuse their agents ...
                      1. kris
                        kris 27 January 2014 12: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        Systemic opposition members sit in the Duma, for whom millions of citizens vote, but for Alyosha 0,5-1%.

                        circus and more!
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        Well, and a more stupid cover for their epic feil, except for the slogan "Navalny is the Kremlin's project", the opponents could not come up with ...

                        "If you want to destroy the movement - lead it"
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        Although, if this is so, then this once again proves that at the helm in Russia there are far from * d * and * oty, as various iksperds and analytega try to put them

                        And here I agree with you.
                        If you couldn’t have been able to ruin the country so skillfully, while deftly convincing people that all this is for their good.
                      2. sledgehammer102
                        sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 12: 59
                        -3
                        Quote: kris
                        If you couldn’t have been able to ruin the country so skillfully, while deftly convincing people that all this is for their good.


                        How the country is crumbling, you can judge by the number of cars on the streets, the construction of enterprises and high-tech equipment
                      3. kris
                        kris 27 January 2014 13: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        How the country is crumbling, you can judge by the number of cars on the streets, the construction of enterprises and high-tech equipment

                        I judge the reforms of medicine, education, science.
                        And also about Putin’s attitude to theft (Olympics, Rosnano), Serdyukov’s innocence, etc.
                      4. zart_arn
                        zart_arn 27 January 2014 13: 48
                        0
                        Namesake, they saw through you — you are an agent of the Kremlin’s influence! (Joke!) laughing
                      5. alone
                        alone 27 January 2014 20: 20
                        +2
                        the number of cars, the construction of enterprises with high-tech equipment does not mean that everything in the country is openwork.
                    2. Serg65
                      Serg65 27 January 2014 13: 14
                      +8
                      Michael, what is the robbery of the country's GDP? What and whom did he rob ???
                    3. sledgehammer102
                      sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 13: 25
                      +1
                      Quote: kris
                      I judge the reforms of medicine, education, science.
                      And also about Putin’s attitude to theft (Olympics, Rosnano), Serdyukov’s innocence, etc.


                      I hear something like that every five years, like "Aaaaa I’m going to die! Five years left !!", but all the indices are stubbornly creeping up both in nominal and in kind !!! And why until 2000 did they only do what they fell ... or what made them grow ...
                    4. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 27 January 2014 13: 40
                      +5
                      Quote: sledgehammer102
                      yes here all the indices stubbornly creep up in both nominal and physical terms

                      Channel Russia24 - "AvtoVAZ management plans to reduce 2014 thousand people in 7"And since all the workers have long been registered in two front companies, registered in my opinion in Penza, they will be thrown for severance pay too. So, what indexes, you say, are growing?
                    5. kris
                      kris 27 January 2014 13: 42
                      +1
                      Quote: sledgehammer102
                      Yes, here all the indices stubbornly creep up in both nominal and physical terms !!!

                      but I thought why a communal apartment is growing! laughing
                    6. sledgehammer102
                      sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 14: 06
                      -1
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      And since all the workers have long been registered for two front companies, which I think were in Penza, they will also be thrown for severance pay. So what indexes are you saying growing?


                      Indices are rising. Wanted technical upgrades and increased productivity? Get it. I wonder how much AvtoVAZ production will fall after dismissal? I think it will even grow. And yes. As for severance pay - photo below

                      Quote: kris
                      but I thought why a communal apartment is growing

                      And from what the salary grows you did not think?
                    7. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 27 January 2014 14: 53
                      +4
                      Quote: sledgehammer102
                      Wanted technical upgrades and increased productivity?

                      In the welding shops of the plant before the French bought automatic welding lines. Kawasaki welding robots were in places. Now these areas have been cleared, and set up stands for manual welding with pincers. The French believe that it is cheaper. If you plow for double - 40-50 tr can be raised, but the wife will go to another. This is our technical re-equipment.
                      Quote: sledgehammer102
                      As for severance pay - photo below

                      I have already mentioned that the bulk of VAZ employees are not de facto, so the few who receive during the reorganization refused to be transferred de jure to a shell company, will receive the money. They transferred voluntarily forcibly, so there are not many.
                      But even if they had given 100t.r. to everyone who was laid off, it would not have been better from this, there’s no work, and finding a new one in our city is difficult. And I did not notice the growth of Z \ P, in contrast to the rise in prices and communal apartments. hi
                    8. sledgehammer102
                      sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 15: 32
                      0
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      But even if everyone who had been laid off were given 100tr., It would not have been better from this, there’s no work, and finding a new one in our city is difficult.


                      My opinion
                      1) Dismissals to nowhere is always bad
                      2) The growth of the industrial production index and layoffs at individual enterprises are not connected in any way
                      3) Capitalism is evil, but they haven’t come up with anything better, although not. They came up with it, Stalin did quite well, and they themselves debunked Khrushchev.

                      So something like that. But it’s not for me to remind you that during the crisis, VAZs could have been closed altogether, and on forum sites this opinion was very popular, they say why save a living corpse, but the state saved and brought it to a new level. Something like this.
                    9. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 27 January 2014 18: 44
                      0
                      Quote: sledgehammer102
                      but the state saved and brought it to a new level.

                      Pavel, throw away the illusions, the state allegedly VAZ saved on the eve of the sale to the French. Rescue included writing off tax debts and buying a Renault-Logan chassis. With taxes it’s clear, but why give out a targeted grant to buy a French chassis before selling a controlling stake to the same French? Scam, no more. About the manipulation of an artificially created shortage of TCP, which led to a halt in sales of commodity A / M, I already wrote. By the way, everyone’s beloved GDP took a personal part in this - at first he desperately PR Kalina, twice in six months he came to Togliatti, and was present at the negotiations on the sale. And not everything was clean with the shares - a large block of shares belonged to Berezovsky, as they stepped over it, history is silent. request
                  2. alone
                    alone 27 January 2014 20: 23
                    +2
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    If you plow for double - 40-50 tr can be raised, but the wife will go to another. This is our technical re-equipment.


                    I remembered a joke about Pinocchio
                    Pinocchio approaches Papa Carlo and says
                    Carlo, give me a zero skin, I have splinters there, the malvina complains.
                    After a week, Papa Carlo asks Pinocchio
                    Well, how did the skin help? How are things with Malvina?
                    -Carlo, what for, Malvina, I have a skin !! laughing
          4. kris
            kris 27 January 2014 13: 29
            0
            Quote: Serg65
            Michael, what is the robbery of the country's GDP? What and whom did he rob ???

            Good day Sergey.
            I meant robbing, not robbing.
            Although in this case it is almost the same thing.
            Your question is answered in my message above.
            Or just compare what was done in the USSR for people and what is being done now.
          5. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 13: 42
            +2
            Quote: kris
            I meant robbing, not robbing.
            Although in this case it is almost the same

            Well, I wrote right away, Putin must do it and that’s all. You still don’t offer any alternative, so request
          6. kris
            kris 27 January 2014 13: 48
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, I wrote right away, Putin must do it and that’s all. You still don’t offer any alternative, so

            Do not twist novels.
            If Putin begins to think about the people, then let him rule forever!
            I value actions, not a person’s personality!
          7. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 14: 10
            0
            Quote: kris
            I value actions, not a person’s personality!


            You already appreciated the deeds, and not the personality, when the Soviet Union collapsed under you. And now you are comparing a country that only ten years ago started to recover from the most destructive war in history with the heyday of the USSR ...
            Why then took to the streets and destroyed the monuments of Dzherzhinsky and Lenin? They voted for Yeltsin twice.
          8. kris
            kris 27 January 2014 14: 18
            +2
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Why then took to the streets and destroyed the monuments of Dzherzhinsky and Lenin? They voted for Yeltsin twice.

            never voted for the fight that made Vova the receiver!
            and monuments were destroyed only by stupid people.
          9. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 14: 22
            +1
            Quote: kris
            never voted for the fight that made Vova the receiver!
            and monuments were destroyed only by stupid people.


            But their country was fucked up, no matter how you say it. Then, too, everyone had a discontent and a thirst for some mythical justice, which consisted of elementary sausage and jeans, well, McDonald's, and yes, the main slogan "Select and divide! And all the bourgeoisie for a count !!"
            The same thing happened in 1917 and is happening now.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 14: 24
        +3
        Quote: kris
        I value actions, not a person’s personality!

        In this case, at least write down what needs to be done, then I will read and think about whether you are right or not.
  2. Serg65
    Serg65 27 January 2014 14: 04
    +6
    Sorry, good day Michael. Living in memories, we will not be able to understand either the present or the future. Do you hope that you will not deny that the USSR was ruined and plundered by the Communists, headed by General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, T. Gorbachev and first secretary of the Moscow Regional Committee of the CPSU, T. Yeltsin? By the way, 80% of the inhabitants of the USSR also helped them in this, shouting at the 91 ury, urya, down with the CPSU! I hope you will not deny the difference between Russia 90's and Russia 00's, so what is Putin to blame? I’m always interested in expressions about ugly, corrupt and thieving officials ... are they aliens from other galaxies or aliens ??? The test of power and money is rarely passed by anyone!
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 27 January 2014 12: 35
    +6
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    Another attempt to blind the new Yeltsin failed miserably due to the superiority of the KGB mentality of the main figures in the Russian government.

    Well, what kind of KGB mentality does modern power have? St. Petersburg guys earned their laurels in a lenport under the wing of Sobchak. Their trading mindset is that you can’t sell it in the trash! No matter what, people or machine tools or planes.
    http://monk.com.ua/interesting_and_incredibly/2014/01/26/samolety-na-hranenii-v-
    bykovo.html
    And conclusions from the Maidan fever need to be done by those who rule our country, and not to exaggerate the theme of mythical Russian nationalists. Is it that if I want to feel pride in my country, I want to eliminate corruption, and so that the interests of the indigenous nation of Russia are the priorities of the government, then I am a nationalist?
    It seems that it’s time for us to learn how to call a spade a spade, there are politically active youth, there are agents of influence of the Kremlin, there are agents of influence of the West, and there are nationalists. But the media inspire us that there are gays and there are fascists and there are edros - they say you choose for whom?
    And no one needs to create a new Yeltsin - he himself created Yeltsin at one time - the receiver is called. The successor of the EBN policy (privatization, private property, arms reduction, the army, de-industrialization, oligarchization of power), everything is available, just look at the surrounding reality. For example, almost all governors are multimillionaires, a deputy’s mandate can be bought!
    This is what we must fight with, and not with the mythical Russian nationalism! And so already enough to fight with the Russians!
    1. 3935333
      3935333 27 January 2014 13: 01
      +4
      For example, almost all governors are multimillionaires, a deputy’s mandate can be bought!
      This is what we must fight with, and not with the mythical Russian nationalism! And so already enough to fight with the Russians!
      The authorities, both in our country and in Ukraine, are afraid of only one thing - their own people !!! Any such performance in Russia, remember Pugachev, Biryulevo, Manezhka !!! how did the authorities react? And Bolotnaya - where did the "intillegence" come to perform?
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 27 January 2014 14: 28
        +2
        Quote: 3935333
        The power of both US and Ukraine is afraid of only one thing - their own people !!!

        Here you are at the very point! And more than any demonstrations, the authorities are afraid of a popular referendum (the highest form of will of citizens) because knows very well about his popularity. Any attempts to hold ANY referendum are nipped in the bud.
        http://rusnarod.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=612
    2. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 13: 11
      -1
      Quote: S_mirnov
      Is it that if I want to be proud of my country,

      And who's stopping you. We have a lot of achievements over the past 10 years in many areas. And all the problems start from one specific person. Government / country - a mirror of the people / society.
      This is folk wisdom, and not some kind of gag.

      Quote: S_mirnov
      Yeltsin himself created it in due time - the receiver is called. The successor of the EBN policy ... oligarchization of power

      In the 1999 year, with 100 barrels, we received 10 barrels to the budget, and in 2012 already 60.


      Quote: S_mirnov
      I want to eliminate corruption




      Quote: S_mirnov
      arms reduction, army

      Did this news about 100 new combat aircraft affect you ?? Or maybe the new Yars missile systems speak of disarmament? Or Borea and Ash?

      Quote: S_mirnov
      de-industrialization



      Quote: S_mirnov
      This is what we must fight with, and not with the mythical Russian nationalism!

      We already see this mythical nationalism in Ukraine, in all its glory.

      And so already enough to fight with the Russians!

      So much so that their share in the population has increased.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 27 January 2014 11: 53
    +9
    zart_arn 1 "Real Russian nationalism is expressed in love for its people and the desire for it prosperity and success", 2 "this is when a university teacher mercilessly" knocks down "an incomprehensible" face "in spite of bribery or threats, this is when the police send the "cool car" of the "person" who has fallen into lawlessness is sent to the impound, while the "face" itself is sent to jail, etc. Alas, if this is not the case, the likelihood of rampant "so-called Russian nationalism" is very high. " 3 "I am sorry that a" senseless and merciless rebellion "is flaring in Ukraine, that everyone suffers in the end."
    The first part of your thesis is patriotism! The second part is a normal attitude to their work and compliance with laws (which is now very rare). Regarding part 3 ... I am living in the capital of 2 orange revolutions in Bishkek by will and I can tell you with confidence that all this "senselessness and ruthlessness" depends entirely on the degree of funding. I can also say that the Ukrainian people are not ready for the orange revolutions ... we have this show with squares lasting 5 hours at most, a new president is brought in and ala-ulyu to rob shops, in the morning everyone is happy and waiting for money for a new revolution !! !
  • ele1285
    ele1285 27 January 2014 09: 13
    +16
    Quote: jjj
    He simply hesitates to say that the so-called Russian nationalism, which is widely shown to us, is in fact a Western political technology project. Real Russian nationalists do not go to pogroms and do not beat "non-Russian muzzles".


    Yes, my neighbors and I don’t want to beat their faces for another eye shape or nose shape. But we are adult men, everyone for 45, we consider ourselves nationalists because we got this power. And we have nothing against the janitors of the Uzbeks.
    And a neighbor from the second floor, an Azerbaijani, speaks poorly in Russian, BUT to his children in the yard, he always shouts - "Speak Russian, so live."
    He is respectful, and to him as well. You don’t have to say right away that they are good one by one. If a person has an upbringing, then no one will take him away.
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 27 January 2014 09: 20
      -1
      Alexander, +!
    2. Denis
      Denis 27 January 2014 09: 20
      +7
      Quote: ele1285
      we have nothing against the janitors of the Uzbeks
      Or maybe in vain?
      Alas, in Russia there are many places where such ... oh, there is no village empty. Their inhabitants are also happy to work. Only here the Uzbeks are closer to the employers, they can not be considered people.
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 27 January 2014 09: 43
        +2
        Quote: Denis
        Alas, in Russia there are many places where such ... oops, there is no village work empty. Their residents are also happy to work. Only here the Uzbeks are closer to the employers, they can not be considered people. More precisely, it’s more profitable

        I completely agree with you, And my neighbors are nicer to my eyes, but believe me, I’m not making economic policy in the country, And even if I go out onto the street now with a banner, there’s nothing to change. There’s some hope that it’s in the Kremlin they read this site and MAYBE draw conclusions. Well, there is not only adiyas sitting.
        1. Denis
          Denis 27 January 2014 09: 52
          +3
          Quote: ele1285
          sweeter to the eye our wipers
          Business is moving
          For a month now, an experiment has been going on in Kronstadt that has affected the housing system of the city. Its essence is to replace janitors-migrants from neighboring republics working on the island with janitors with Russian citizenship. The experiment was initiated by the head of the Kronstadt administration Terenty Meshcheryakov. After a month, you can already talk about the first results of the experiment, its success from the point of view of the city administration, its residents, as well as the janitors themselves
          more details http://www.uborka.su/news/2339-bona.html
          There is a beginning!
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 27 January 2014 13: 16
            +1
            Quote: Denis
            There is a beginning!

            Denis, no offense, EXCLUSION. Although the article was published in Komsomolskaya Pravda in June. Has something changed? Yes walrus fang on our teeth. The worst thing that I can’t say in words is deleted. It's not scary, I can’t communicate with competent people.
            1. Denis
              Denis 27 January 2014 14: 47
              +1
              Quote: ele1285
              article was published in Komsomolka back in June
              Which makes her a dubious compliment, that newspaper has become very yellow. Last year, I saw 2-3 articles on this topic in the Russian Newspaper. Of course, this is not an indicator either, but Kronstadt is nearby, we’ll see
        2. dmb
          dmb 27 January 2014 10: 20
          +3
          Excuse Alexander for interfering, but in the overwhelming majority it is they, "adies". Moreover, there it is a social term rather than a medical one. This public is not interested in anything other than money, and all their actions are aimed only at personal enrichment. It's easier for a steamed turnip to shove off the "creative activity" of Serdyukov, Golikova, Kudrin, Fursenko, Medvedev and Putin, as well as the subordinate gentlemen they appoint to the notorious State Department. It certainly has a positive effect on their activities, but it is based on personal enrichment. It will be profitable for their pockets tomorrow to build socialism, you will not find in more "staunch Marxists and loyal Leninists" and therefore, we will not leave, such as Nemtsov, and Chirikova, Limonov and Udaltsov will go. And they do not differ from the "Kremlin" ones in caring for people.
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 27 January 2014 13: 08
            0

            Damn, at least someone agreed with me. I ask, Putinists, tell me, where did your GDP win? In Syria, and this is also a question. Ukraine was profiled.
            GDP, this is Ostap Suleiman Bert Maria Bender Bey, And he has only one motto - DENGI COME. So, let's get yours, idiots.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 27 January 2014 13: 32
              +5
              What did you win? Yes, at least that, Mr. Fascist, you can calmly pour out your bile here, write your evil scribbles, and not hang out on the yard. therein. that the same people robbed by "evil" Putin forgot how in the 90s they considered a crust of bread with pickled cucumber a delicacy, in the fact that the industry that you happily buried is being revived, in the fact that the profession of "officer" is again becoming prestigious, in that that Russia is on its way to its feet again !!!! And the battle for Ukraine is just beginning!
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 27 January 2014 14: 47
                -2
                Quote: Serg65
                What did you win? Yes, at least that, Mr. Fascist, you can calmly pour out your bile here, write your evil scribbles, and not hang out on the yard. therein. that the same people robbed by "evil" Putin forgot how in the 90s they considered a crust of bread with pickled cucumber a delicacy, in the fact that the industry that you happily buried is being revived, in the fact that the profession of "officer" is again becoming prestigious, in that that Russia is on its way to its feet again !!!! And the battle for Ukraine is just beginning!


                1) Russian nationalists have been living at ease since the time of Yeltsin. (Don't consider me a "Yeltsinist"!)
                2) Regarding the "battle for Ukraine", did we ask them or are they like booty or a trophy? We are fighting for them in order to please our geopolitical plans, not for the good of the Ukrainians, in the same way Europe is "fighting" in its own interests, and the common people of Ukraine are again extreme!
    3. DuraLexSedLex.
      DuraLexSedLex. 27 January 2014 09: 59
      +8
      Quote: ele1285
      And a neighbor from the second floor, an Azerbaijani, speaks poorly in Russian, BUT to his children in the yard, he always shouts - "Speak Russian, so live."

      Good morning)
      I apologize for the off-top, but it reminded me of my student years. I stood near the department of drawing with my acquaintance a black man (he studied at our institute), and now a student from Vietnam (no less than blacks) passes by and my the familiar nigra gives out:
      -Oh smatri- pats me on the shoulder - another narrow-eyed one!
      "Narrow-eyed" turns and gives out- Settlement on *** salnogue!
      I fell from laughter at that moment, about the surrender of something that day there was no question))) Russia)))
      PS By the way, in the Russian Federation he was neighing at that time, a little more than a year and a half)
    4. kris
      kris 27 January 2014 11: 29
      +2
      Quote: ele1285
      Yes, my neighbors and I don’t want to beat their faces for another eye shape or nose shape. But we are adult men, everyone for 45, we consider ourselves nationalists because we got this power. And we have nothing against the janitors of the Uzbeks.
      And a neighbor from the second floor, an Azerbaijani, speaks poorly in Russian, BUT to his children in the yard, he always shouts - "Speak Russian, so live."
      He is respectful, and to him as well. You don’t have to say right away that they are good one by one. If a person has an upbringing, then no one will take him away.

      WELL DONE ! well said ! hi
  • starshina78
    starshina78 27 January 2014 10: 07
    +5
    There will be no such "Maidan" in Russia! And not because the nationalists are weak and cannot yet repeat, but for one simple reason - Russia has power, unlike Ukraine. I’ll make a reservation, I’m not a supporter of Putin, I don’t like a lot of what he does, in some ways I agree with him (I don’t like his economic policy leading to the destruction of industry), but I’ll be for him with both hands if in the event of such events in Russia, he will use all the power and strength of the Dzhzerzhinsky division, special forces to establish constitutional order. Is it a matter that young guys from the "Berkut" suffer, they gouge out their eyes, cut them out, pierce their heads, set them on fire, but they cannot all the strength to apply their knowledge and strength because of weakness, fear of "friends" from the West, fear of losing the stolen money and business of his son, fear of Yanukovych taking decisive action. This power, Yanukovych, discredited itself, both in front of the opposition and in front of all of Ukraine, Russia and Europe. In order to stay in power, and not to lose face in front of those who want to live in a peaceful state with normal politics, industry, trust in the authorities, Yanukovych just had to disperse all this mess, and that's it. And now, as a result of this, what has been talked about for the last twenty years - the partition of Ukraine. Or maybe it's for the better?
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 27 January 2014 11: 05
      -1
      There will be no such "Maidan" in Russia!

      Do not promise.
    2. Volkhov
      Volkhov 27 January 2014 11: 11
      -4
      Quote: starshina78
      in the event of such events in Russia, he will use all the power and strength of the Dzzerzhinsky division, special forces to restore constitutional order

      And if the special forces are scattered and lost all over the world - in Africa, Syria, Ukraine, and in the division conscripts who served an average of six months? And it is necessary to restore order not only in Balashikha, but in hundreds of places at the same time - to send conscripts in all directions by hitchhiking?
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 27 January 2014 11: 56
        0
        Quote: Volkhov
        And if the special forces are scattered and lost all over the world - in Africa, Syria, Ukraine, and in the division conscripts who served an average of six months? And it is necessary to restore order not only in Balashikha, but in hundreds of places at the same time - to send conscripts in all directions by hitchhiking?


        It is enough just not to be an idiot and not to support these movements, but it is best to voluntarily resist them. And there it’s a matter of technology, such kipish for Russia has already passed the stage in the 1993 year, and then the consolidation of knowledge was in 2012.
    3. kris
      kris 27 January 2014 12: 24
      +2
      Quote: starshina78
      but I will be with both hands for him, if in the event of such events in Russia, he will use all the power and strength of the Dzzerzhinsky division, special forces to restore constitutional order.

      And if Putin himself will bring the country to such events?
    4. virm
      virm 27 January 2014 12: 47
      +2
      This has already happened in the Russian Federation. In 1993. Yeltsin, we had such a president, was not afraid of decisive action. And he invited American and Israeli snipers, who killed hundreds (HUNDREDS) of unarmed Russian guys. Everyone, probably, remembers how Gaidar, Chubais and other common people screamed on TV - "we need to crush this fascist reptile." They are about peaceful demonstrators.
      As a result, the zhyid-oligarchic regime was established in the country, one of the features of which is the genocide of the Russian people. In an inconspicuous mild form, through alcohol, drugs, migrants, zombies, etc.
      And then this one outstanding historical figure said, once on New Year's Eve: "Forgive me, I'm leaving." And he appointed us his successor. Unknown FSB lieutenant colonel. And that, after 8 years, appointed another successor. This other receiver then assigned the first receiver again. That's how we live.
      1. kris
        kris 27 January 2014 14: 15
        +1
        Quote: virm
        This has already happened in the Russian Federation. In 1993. Yeltsin, we had such a president, was not afraid of decisive action. And he invited American and Israeli snipers, who killed hundreds (HUNDREDS) of unarmed Russian guys. Everyone, probably, remembers how Gaidar, Chubais and other common people screamed on TV - "we need to crush this fascist reptile." They are about peaceful demonstrators.
        As a result, the zhyid-oligarchic regime was established in the country, one of the features of which is the genocide of the Russian people. In an inconspicuous mild form, through alcohol, drugs, migrants, zombies, etc.
        And then, this eminent historical figure said, one day before the new year: "Forgive me, I am leaving." And he appointed us his successor. Unknown FSB lieutenant colonel. And that, after 8 years, appointed another successor. This other receiver then assigned the first receiver again. That's how we live.

        all right. but many do not want to see this.
      2. Volkhov
        Volkhov 27 January 2014 16: 01
        0
        Quote: virm
        Similar in the Russian Federation already was. In 1993.

        Differences of Ukraine from Moscow - 93:
        - an adversary with this guide and not a shell
        - fewer Zionists
        - less troops
        - snipers are busy in Syria, the Caucasus, Africa, Sochi
        - in Ukraine there are many rural residents with water from the well and food from the garden, they, like Caucasians, are not saturated with bromine and fluoride from water utilities and are capable of active actions, unlike Russian zombies
        - Zionism in failure systematically
        And the rest is a lot like that.
  • acute
    acute 27 January 2014 11: 32
    -2
    There are fears that Russia will also begin soon and it will be worse.
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    2. ele1285
      ele1285 27 January 2014 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: akut
      There are fears that Russia will also begin soon and it will be worse.

      Bl, God forbid, this is one tryndets at all.
  • domokl
    domokl 27 January 2014 11: 37
    +2
    Quote: jjj
    Russian nationalism, which we are widely shown, is in fact a Western political technology project. Real Russian nationalists do not go to pogroms and do not beat "non-Russian muzzles".

    recourse I would never have thought that I would defend the nationalists, but ... The easiest way is to blame everything on the West and its corrupting influence. We have nothing to do with the type, the enemies bribe the bastards ...
    But I recall the events of a hundred years ago in Russia. The Black Hundreds certainly did not feed on American rubles ... Yes, it is doubtful about the European ones ... But the pogroms were also quite serious ... So there was no need to make Natsik white and fluffy ... Not the West to blame, but the ideology itself is so ... Everyone is guilty who have a muzzle of a face of a different design ... Just because such awesome guys like us, smart, kind, patriotic and others, cannot be guilty ...
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 27 January 2014 14: 11
      +5
      Alexander, of course I apologize. but who were smashed by the Black Hundreds 100 years ago? And what political events took place in Russia at that time?
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 08: 46
      +7
      The people, with our environmentalists and other rubbish, everything is clear, but here it is for Farion belay In Ukraine, such things are happening, but you can’t hear and hear her, didn’t you strangle her for an hour when they found out that she was a communist? Ukrainians AU, who knows what about her. Where is this beauty queen
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 27 January 2014 09: 18
        +6
        Poet D. Bykov envies Ukrainians

        What kind of Dmitry Bykov is this? If Lvovich, then it’s understandable. Envious of the Ukrainian Nazis and regrets that the Maidan cannot be created on Red Square. I don’t know if Dima was marked on the Maidan. But most of our Gus community was noted there. In order to hate Russians SO on Maidan, she also made her significant contribution.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 27 January 2014 09: 21
          +4
          Quote: Z.O.V.
          Poet D. Bykov is jealous of Ukrainians,


          environmental activist and well-known opposition activist Evgenia Chirikova:
          Who is this lady, widely known in narrow circles?


          Let's move from ecologists and poets to more specific personalities.
          Which ones? I haven’t found a single famous person in the entire text of the article. Maybe I don’t go there? Or am I not looking at those? Or does he also consider K. Sobchak a philosopher? So yes, the horse has a big head, it is more convenient for her to think.
          1. strannik595
            strannik595 27 January 2014 11: 57
            +7
            once Ukraine joined the European Union ........ already forgot how cool it is, I want to take another chance
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 27 January 2014 13: 10
              0
              Quote: strannik595
              I want to take another chance

              If this does happen, then only one person will enter from Russia. And he will destroy all their Kurmys with ease, only accessible to him.
              Even the most shrill oppa or the liberalist could not shut him up.
              Volfych is cool and hohly listen to him silently. They only suppress the desire to burst into tears in his jacket and ask for forgiveness.
              Video -
              "The KAA boa constrictor and the naughty Banderlog ..."


              1. Sirs
                Sirs 27 January 2014 13: 30
                0
                Gorabachev in "GEN SECI" - (Secretary General) of the European Union. the result you know what will be.
  • Denis
    Denis 27 January 2014 08: 13
    +6
    the situation of environmental activist and well-known opposition activist Evgenia Chirikova: “If you believe Solzhenitsyn
    Whom to believe?
    This is he a hero to him, and anyone who is against the country
    And here it is necessary to blather the green judahs
    It seems to me that all the activity of this ... like the militant feudalists from the most severe lack of fucking
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 27 January 2014 08: 14
    +14
    Nazis say rotting? And who do we "respect"? Yes, such a maidan on the Kremlin square can easily be arranged by those whom we contemptuously call guest workers. There are much more of them in Moscow than official statistics say. Tajiks and Uzbeks will start, Islamists of different stripes will come up there. Both Moscow and Russia itself are of no value to them. It's time to think about this.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 27 January 2014 08: 45
      +9
      Migrant workers can arrange a maidan on Kremlin Square ??? Do not smack nonsense dear !! They came to earn money and nothing more! Moreover, this is a fragmented mass, the Uzbeks are not in control with all the Middle Asian peoples, the Kyrgyz and Tajiks do not consider themselves brothers at all. Russian Islamists staged explosions in Volgograd are also migrant workers ?? How many Asians were in Bolotnaya? Inflating this topic, you act as an agent of influence leading an information war aimed at the collapse of Russia !!!
      1. Denis
        Denis 27 January 2014 09: 13
        +5
        Quote: Serg65
        Migrant workers can arrange a maidan on Kremlin Square ???
        They wanted to squeal for tolerance on Manezh Square, though they didn’t allow
        And so let yourself maidanyat,only in their villages!
      2. queen
        queen 27 January 2014 10: 58
        +1
        Quote: Serg65
        They came to earn money and nothing more!

        What are you talking about? Only money? Wake up. They came as families, to give birth to children who are prepared for Russian citizenship, and to crowd out the RUSSIAN ORTHODOX population. It's the same as the locust devours everything.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 27 January 2014 11: 37
          +10
          I’m saying that hang noodles on the ears of milkmen and you don’t have to talk about RUSSIAN PRAISE! Russian Orthodoxy didn’t ever instill racism, how long have you, my Orthodox, been in the church and took communion ??? Do not cover your dirty deeds with God, in this you are no different from your Wahhabi colleagues !!!
          1. queen
            queen 27 January 2014 13: 36
            -3
            Quote: Serg65
            Russian Orthodoxy never racism

            To be tolerant and silent? Not those times.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 27 January 2014 14: 19
              +5
              And who makes you be tolerant and silent? You see that the official takes bribes and steals, bring him to clean water, you see that the cop is a bribe taker, catch him by the hand, you see that the Islamist with the knife is sneaking and the bomb is being harbored, catch him. Orthodoxy does not prohibit yes But to tune the people to the people, in order to eventually ignite a civil war to the joy of "good neighbors" - this is truly a sin!
              1. queen
                queen 27 January 2014 14: 22
                -1
                Quote: Serg65
                set people on people

                Actually, I'm at home, and not at their place.
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 27 January 2014 14: 51
                  +3
                  Do only Russians live in your house?
                  1. queen
                    queen 27 January 2014 15: 17
                    0
                    The majority, and the devils listed in the Red Book, "offended and oppressed" I do not intend to endure, otherwise our main tolerant loves them very much, and feeds them so that they do not squeal.
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 27 January 2014 14: 10
        -1
        before calling me an agent of influence read my comments on this site.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 27 January 2014 15: 00
          +5
          What else do you call? You are pushing the topic of migrant workers, trying to point out the culprits of those supposed troubles and tribulations, which, well, directly destroyed Russia. And who just needs a strong Russia? The Caucasus must be separated, where the evil Circassian sharpenes his knife, Tatarstan needs to be fenced with barbed wire, there the Tatars celebrate their Ramadan, etc.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 08: 58
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      Yes, such a Maidan on the Kremlin Square can easily be arranged by those whom we contemptuously call guest workers

      And do not sweat arrange? Most of them come here to earn and lose bread for them, means to go back to their families with empty pockets, which dooms them to poverty. If they were there they wouldn’t go there. Yes, and gastro-baiters are a big business.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 27 January 2014 09: 23
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Most of them come here to earn and lose bread for them, means to go back to their families

        And if the main income will be for "areal standing"? On the other hand, what is difficult to ensure (technically) working gaster of non-payment of salaries? Organize a couple of limitless events? And for some reason, everyone will know about it a couple of hours before the event?
        Therefore, in order to prevent the implementation of such a scenario, cool work of the special services and the country's leadership is necessary)).
        Yes, also, on a national scale, we need to replace "civil education" with military-patriotic education)).
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 27 January 2014 13: 50
      +1
      Interesting comments. They are going to work. Yes, many work. But does everyone remember the different videos about ramadan when the tolma of Muslims sweeps police cordons. And tinted nines with curtains, driving without following the rules.
      And then, as experience shows (at least the same Maidan), there is no need for a large crowd. At least a thousand activists, then support, then sympathizers, then a swamp. And now a huge crowd destroys everything around.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 27 January 2014 14: 39
        +3
        Leonid, Ramadan is a religious holiday similar to Easter and nothing more, another thing is how to present it to the layman. And on tinted nines with curtains, not only Muslims are persecuting, this is already a matter of honor for traffic cops. Experience has shown that hundreds of activists are enough to incite the crowd, but to create the Maidan, good funding is needed, and most importantly, this is the weakness of the government, which in Russia not visible. Migrant workers are located in a foreign country, away from their hometowns, villages, villages, devoid of tribal ties. Asians in their homeland are then divided by clans, and even more so in a foreign land!
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 27 January 2014 14: 43
          0
          I do not want to argue, I just pointed out one of the possible scenarios.
  • Sirs
    Sirs 27 January 2014 08: 14
    +10
    hello to all maydans, soon you will be in the arms of ordinary Ukrainian citizens. my advice to you is to go to jail, otherwise ordinary people will not make out who is moderate and who is not.
    Here I look at the photo from the Maidan and the brainwashed people of European gay propaganda are visible, in my eyes there is not a drop of thought about the future, no matter what it may be.
    destroy thunder that's the whole point.
    P. s. What is the difference between revolution and rebellion -
    rebellion is a failed revolution and vice versa.
  • JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 27 January 2014 08: 23
    +8
    I’m going to enroll in a hunting society. It’s necessary to prepare. If the fascists prevail in Ukraine, everything will pass to us.
    Resuscitation with the name Bolotnaya 2.0 is quite real.
    Because they were not crushed but only scared ... slightly.
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  • ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 27 January 2014 08: 26
    +3
    Yes, the Maidan organizers wanted to spit on Ukraine, and even more so on the people living in it, they already paid for their fuss, and the boxer will generally live on his drum after the pogroms in Germany or where he has his own fat and bread to it, and The nationalist zapadenschina is waging war on foreign territory and people are not interested in them, because the siloviki are the same Ukrainians and they burn Ukrainian property, and the script is very much for the October Socialist. it looks like a revolution from the Bolshevik methods is no different, hence the conclusion: they will defeat the country, divide the dividends and the people living in this territory will be at least in the loop, because the new owners will not need them here (European progressors already tried to do this in 1941) hope in a different way to decide this, the goal is the same and the lackeys of the West are the same.
  • saag
    saag 27 January 2014 08: 28
    +3
    I would give a public warning instead of the Russian authorities that if there is a desire to repeat the Maidan scenario in Russia, a moratorium would be imposed on tolerance :-)
    1. queen
      queen 27 January 2014 11: 10
      -1
      Quote: saag
      I would be in the place of the Russian authorities

      Our government is rotten and thieves, you call to protect their "legally" obtained assets?
  • invisibility
    invisibility 27 January 2014 08: 30
    +3
    Here I look at the photo from the Maidan and the brainwashed people of European gay propaganda are visible, in my eyes there is not a drop of thought about the future, no matter what it may be.
    I agree. The beast.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 27 January 2014 09: 49
      +1
      Quote: invisible
      Here I look at the photo from the Maidan and the brainwashed people of European gay propaganda are visible, in my eyes there is not a drop of thought about the future, no matter what it may be.
      I agree. The beast.


      I agree that the brains are washed out, but do not forget that the people have a boiling economic situation, it is not stable, the government is trying to walk at two weddings, as a result, the people suffer from the uncertainty of power and the banal lack of work.
  • Stinger
    Stinger 27 January 2014 08: 38
    +1
    Connivance always leads to this. Of course, when, falling from the 14th floor and flying past the second, they say: "As long as everything is going well," this is the wisdom of a politician, but very short. And then, to save his skin, the sage will not regret anything. The funny thing is that in the end it will take Yulia's place anyway. Don't go to the fortuneteller. But bunny prime minister, that's cool. He has not eaten cabbage for the third day. Thinks how not to miscalculate. It remains for Tyagnibok to offer the post of Minister of Internal Affairs.
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 27 January 2014 08: 39
    -1
    As it is, however, the position of "however" on the issue of nationalism is not entirely clear, it seems to be not bad, but not the same ... The company "however" is trying to please both the owners and its readers, among whom there are quite a few nationalists ... Like we are for nationalism but with a Putin face ...
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 27 January 2014 09: 26
      0
      What do you want, "However" ... That says it all. Dirty gear.
  • major071
    major071 27 January 2014 08: 39
    +7
    present to your attention an ode to the Maidan pen Dmitry our Bykov:

    And the poems are de (r) new, as is the poet himself. negative
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 27 January 2014 10: 17
      -8
      Quote: major071
      And the poems are de (r) new, as is the poet himself.

      Write better, who does not give you?
  • Flibustiero
    Flibustiero 27 January 2014 08: 39
    +2
    It is simply paradoxical when the "Russians" are humiliated, the people constituting the backbone of the intelligentsia, teachers, scientists, workers in factories, and any other "essence" is elevated. If you do not like Russians, then soon the power will be in the hands of the "black" whom you poke! But I think that an Islamic state will not build in the vastness of Russia, but the answer is why? as simple as "three rubles" China will not allow! It will capture everything and everyone, up to the Urals, and maybe further :) And then the "nationals" will receive from the "yellow" what they deserve and will live not according to "Sharia", but according to the law! like he gets a bullet in the forehead :)
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 27 January 2014 09: 32
      +3
      Quote: Flibustiero
      An Islamic state cannot be built in the vastness of Russia, but why?

      Because)) The Islamic project was invented in contrast to Orthodoxy (read Russia) and can only be realized by the destruction of Russia as an entity. As, by the way, and Ukrainian (later Bandera).
      1. zart_arn
        zart_arn 27 January 2014 10: 33
        0
        The "Islamic project" was invented and adopted as the ideological basis of Arab expansion in all directions of the world in the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries, while Orthodoxy did not exist yet. Nevertheless, Islam was implanted among the gentiles not only voluntarily.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 27 January 2014 10: 46
          0
          Quote: zart_arn
          Orthodoxy was not there at that time.

          It is difficult to argue, since I, being a supporter of the hypothesis of the radical theory of catastrophes, rely on another "intertrap")) of historical facts.
          Therefore, we have to argue about the hypothesis itself, but it has not yet been published)).
          But ... she (this hypothesis) explains today's events. Why should she not be true to the previous ones?)).
          1. zart_arn
            zart_arn 27 January 2014 11: 14
            0
            Please explain the essence. And specify the chronology.
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 27 January 2014 11: 50
              0
              Quote: zart_arn
              Please explain the essence

              Complicated)). Because it will look ... futuristic)).
              Well, for example, the hypothesis takes for the date of the last global catastrophe (this is when the Hindustan block hit the underbelly of Asia, the Inland Sea (Tethys) was lost and the final formation of the current outlines of the continents began) the interval between 1200 and 1250 years of our era)).
              Do not boil much)). We’ll post it in a month)).
        2. Yuri Sev Caucasus
          Yuri Sev Caucasus 27 January 2014 11: 47
          +1
          from Wikipedia about Islam since the 7th century, at 6 it wasn’t mentioned =)
          Islam is a relatively young religion. From the point of view of a number of European and American scholars, it was a syncretic religion that absorbed elements of pre-Islamic ancient beliefs and cults of Arabs, Hanifism, Judaism, Christianity and Mazdeism [5].
          According to the collection of hadiths of Imam al-Bukhari, in the month of Ramadan in the year 610, when the prophet Muhammad was 40 years old, during the solitude in the cave of Hira, an angel Jabrail came to him and dictated the first five verses of the Qur'an to him [6]. This (610th) year can be considered the year of the emergence of Islam.
          For three years after the start of the mission, the Prophet Muhammad conducted a secret sermon among friends and relatives. During this period, about 40 people converted to Islam, including the wife of Muhammad Khadij, Ali ibn Abu Talib, Abu Bakr and others [7]. In 613, Muhammad spoke publicly in Mecca as a prophet. The ruling circles of Mecca reacted with hostility to Muhammad, his position in Mecca became risky, and in 622 he was forced to resettle (hijra) to Medina. The Ausa and Hazraj tribes inhabiting Medina, having converted to Islam, became the main group of adherents of Muhammad. Toward the end of Muhammad's life, an Islamic theocratic state was formed that occupied the entire Arabian Peninsula - the Arab Caliphate.
          In the 30s of the 639th century, the caliphate inflicted a crushing defeat on its main opponents - Byzantium and the Persian state of the Sassanids. In 661, the Arabs began a campaign in Egypt, culminating in its complete conquest. After the murder of cousin and son-in-law of Muhammad Caliph Ali in XNUMX, the throne of the caliphate was taken by the Umayyad dynasty and the capital of the caliphate was moved to Damascus.
          As a result of further Arab conquests, Islam spread to the Middle and Middle East, and later to some countries of the Far East, Southeast Asia, and Africa. In 711, the Arabs invaded the Iberian Peninsula, however, with further advance to Europe to the north, in 732 they were defeated at Poitiers and stopped their advance deep into Europe.
          In the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries, a mystical current arose in Islam - Sufism.
          At the beginning of the XNUMXth century, Arabs invaded and possessed Sicily until at the end of the XNUMXth century they were expelled by the Normans.
          By the beginning of the 8th century, North Africa, the Iberian Peninsula, and the eastern territories from Iran to India had split off from the Arab caliphate [XNUMX].
          Difficult trials fell on the lot of Islam in the XNUMXth century in connection with the Mongol invasion, which destroyed the Central Asian Muslim states and put an end to the existence of the Arab caliphate. But the Mongol conquerors converted to Islam in the second half of the XNUMXth century, and in the XNUMXth century their power ceased to exist.
          In the 9th century, the reconquista led to the fall of Muslim states on the Iberian Peninsula, but at the same time a powerful Ottoman Empire arose, under the influence of which during its heyday in the XNUMXth – XNUMXth centuries there was territory including Asia Minor (Anatolia), the Middle East, North Africa, the Balkan the peninsula and the lands of Europe adjacent to it from the north [XNUMX].
          Towards the end of the 10th century, two trends emerged in Islam - a conservative and a modernist one. Conservatives called for the return of Islam to its original foundation, a return to a literal understanding of the sacred texts and bequeathed by the prophet to theocratic power. The modernists strove to bring certain positions of Islam closer to the realities of the modern world [XNUMX]
  • svskor80
    svskor80 27 January 2014 08: 41
    +5
    Yes, the current "leaders" of the Maidan, regardless of its results, are preparing warm places for themselves in the West. In order to print books about the glory of democracy and the horrors of totalitarianism until the gray years, and also give lectures. You cannot see people thinking about the future of Ukraine, they beat, crush, break as if they really are not their own, not by the hands of your fellow citizens.
  • Altona
    Altona 27 January 2014 08: 45
    +3
    On the Maidan, even such slogans can sometimes be seen: "Russian, don't sleep, go for it!" Calls to spread this infection across the border ...
  • demotivator
    demotivator 27 January 2014 08: 48
    +2
    On the envy of Russian nationalists to the Ukrainian catastrophe

    ... The poet D. Bykov is envious of Ukrainians that they have Maidans - much more fervent than our Bolotnye.
    I don't quite understand the author, is Bykov a "Russian nationalist"? He may be a nationalist, but not Russian. Still, they are strange people, our writing. Either they cannot pronounce the word "Russian", but instead of it they get some kind of nationalless "Russian". Any Jew in the Russian are ready to write. What for?
    1. Normal
      Normal 27 January 2014 10: 16
      -5
      Quote: demotivator
      Still, they are strange people, our writers.

      Nothing strange. The company "Dvoyako" - pro-Kremlin pseudo-state officials writing for a piece of boiled pork under the martel from the powerful hucksters.
      It would be surprising if the pro-government did not take advantage of the events in Ukraine and did not try to discredit the very idea of ​​nationalism.
      Here is the "Russian nationalist" D. Bykov, who was not allowed to speak on Bolotnaya and Sakharov by the nationalists chanting "RUSOFOB !!"
      There is also a question to Krylov
      Work by whom, Konstantin?

      Although the phrase
      Where to work, earnings will not be that big, and no coconut-pineapples for you. But this is a WHITE WORLD.
      , as I understand it, it belongs not to the Russian nationalist Krylov, but to the Ukrainian nationalist I. Farion. But it is necessary to gloss over the Russian nationalists Ukrainian ukraintskim lawlessness. So what is shy? The information space will endure.
      In general, this statement:
      differences between Russian nationalist K. Krylov and Ukrainian there is no nationalist I. Farion.
      shows all the perverted falsity of the liberal "multinationals" of the "God's chosen".
      They believe that there is no difference between the Zapadents nationalists - Bendera and Russian nationalists. Well, it’s the same as there is no difference between the fans of Zenit and CSKA, because both of them are football ultras, and the fact that they are among themselves enemies you can just shut up.
      In the same way, the pro-government thieves equalize Socialism and National Socialism, between Stalin and Hitler. And what, for the huckster-oligarchs pumping natural and financial resources to the West and ordering "music" for such scribblers, the difference is really not great.

      I put the article minus.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 10: 40
        +7
        Quote: Normal
        Nothing strange. The company "Dvoyako" - pro-Kremlin pseudo-state officials writing for a piece of boiled pork under the martel from the powerful hucksters.

        Normal, so you noticed that accusing me of anti-swamp comments, that I immediately wrote down everything in the swamp .. You, in turn, saw that someone dared to criticize the swamp clowns you respected, immediately wrote the author in pro-Kremlin. Strange yes wink
        Or whatever it is, who dared to criticize the swamp kikimore Chirikov, automatically become Medveputy yes laughing Or do you have evidence that these people did not say the words that are given in the article?
        1. Normal
          Normal 27 January 2014 11: 15
          -2
          Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Normal, so you noticed that accusing me of anti-swamp comments, that I immediately wrote down everything in the swamp .. You, in turn, saw that someone dared to criticize the swamp clowns you respected, immediately wrote the author in pro-Kremlin. Strange yes

          Sorry, but I didn’t understand something, I don’t catch the point, although I re-read it 4 times. What is strange then?
          The fact that you equate the discontent (in my opinion completely justified) of a part of the population with the actions and inaction of the authorities and those who took advantage of this discontent in their political and selfish interests is obvious. And this is a substitution and demagogy.
          The fact that the company "However" is pro-Kremlin, or rather even pro-Putin, is also clear as day. Have you heard about Leontyev's appointment to Rosneft?
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Or do you have evidence that these people did not say the words that are given in the article?

          I have an understanding of what these people say. one (and I don’t agree with everything and not always with them) and the author’s conclusions and fabrications are completely other, that is, again, substitution demagogy.
          Try calmly, not biased, I would even say indifferently to re-read the article and just think about what is written.
          I’ll add an example from myself:
          Russian national-conscious philosopher Konstantin Krylov:

          “Many people are crying here - how cool is Maidan, how are they burning there, not like our Marsh. With further zaplachka- "Ukrainians can, but we do not."
          Ukrainians, of course, are very cool, but do not forget one simple thing. In Ukraine, Ukrainian was not banned and repressed
          nationalism. This is generally impossible, since the whole independence is based on the only support - on the Ukrainian national idea .....
          And without the Right Sector, the whole Maidan scenario would be absolutely Moscow, including the traditional figures of the “negotiating leaders” and so on.
          Hence the difference. ”

          That is, Krylov describes and explains the difference between Ukrainian nationalists and Russian nationalists on the example of the attitude of the authorities to them.
          And here it is written by the Ukrainian nationalist Farion
          “So, something like this Ukrainians perceive the choice between the CU and the EU. As a choice between the HARVEST, on which it stinks of rot and where vile creatures that have lost their human appearance live - and thereby the shop ...
          But to go LIVE in a MISCLE PLACE - no, it is unbearable. And they want to live away from the filthy Russian garbage BEST. Vanguard of the nation, its forged gold. "

          For me, the difference is obvious and certain. For the author
          ... there is no difference between the Russian nationalist K. Krylov and the Ukrainian nationalist I. Farion.

          In general, the whole article can be torn to smithereens as this article is a complete distortion and demagogy, but the comment format is not suitable for this.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 11: 30
            +5
            Quote: Normal
            . What is strange then?

            The strange thing is that you constantly accuse me of what you are doing. This is such a Western policy, to get into arrogant in the internal affairs of Ukraine and blame Russia for this. Do you study with them?
            Quote: Normal
            I have an understanding of what these people say one thing (and I do not always agree with everything and not always)

            Judging by your minus article. In this case, you agree with them. Bravo, my stormy applause.
            Quote: Normal
            Have you heard about Leontief’s appointment to Rosneft?

            I don’t give a damn about him, when he opted against Gazprom, it became clear that he was working out the loot. And in general, a journalist cannot be pro-Putin, they will pay more and the articles will change 180 degrees.
            Quote: Normal
            And here it is written by the Ukrainian nationalist Farion

            You, even before complete happiness, Farion write as friends.
            Quote: Normal
            In general, the whole article can be torn to smithereens as this article is a complete distortion and demagogy, but the comment format is not suitable for this

            Write your article.
            1. Normal
              Normal 27 January 2014 11: 54
              -1
              Alexander Romanov

              Sorry, there’s no pleasure in communicating with you; you confirm yours and do not pay attention to my arguments and explanations. You have to write three times the same thing in different versions. Just a pity for time and effort. This post in communication with you is the last for today.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              you accuse me constantly of what you do yourself.
              Tired of writing already; confirm your words with quotes so as not to be unfounded.
              And you don’t even need to look for your accusations in my direction:
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              It’s such a Western policy, to get into arrogant in the internal affairs of Ukraine and blame Russia for this. Are you from them, are you studying?
              What did I do?

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              You, even before complete happiness, Farion write as friends.

              Smarter to say not what? Differences between Russian nationalism and Bandera you do not understand?
              Offend striving?

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Judging by your minus article. In this case, you agree with them. Bravo, my stormy applause

              Well, do not juggle, how much is that? My minus is disagreement with the demagoguery in the article, and not agreement with "them" Who is it with "them"? With Ukrainian, Western, Bandera nationalist? I am a RUSSIAN nationalist, I have the honor soldier
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              I don’t give a damn about him, when he opted against Gazprom, it became clear that he was working out the loot. And in general, a journalist cannot be pro-Putin ...

              Maybe even how can laughing You deny the obvious.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Write your article.

              But is it necessary? Few articles on the resource. It’s not all possible to read. Yes, and crush, time and skill is not enough. hi
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 12: 57
                +3
                Quote: Normal

                Sorry, there’s no pleasure in communicating with you;

                I noticed on your detailed comment laughing
                Quote: Normal
                you confirm yours and do not pay attention to my arguments and explanations

                And again, he accused me of doing the FIRST himself, are you Normal at all or what? Although on the other hand, I understand when the arguments end and they just catch a person in his words, it’s better to say, “All, I don’t communicate with you anymore . Favorite move of any liberal.
                On the other hand, don’t talk, you’ll think about the loss laughing

                Quote: Normal
                Tired of writing already; confirm your words with quotes so as not to be unfounded.

                No, well, you’ll have a conscience, you yourself even turned arrows on me here wassat
                Quote: Normal

                Smarter to say not what? Do you understand the differences between Russian nationalism and Bandera?

                I see the difference, because it wouldn’t come to my mind to quote her, and then I saw some Russian nationalists who at the marsh rally stood on the same stage with the blue and the rest of the trash.
                Quote: Normal
                I am a RUSSIAN nationalist,

                Stop, you are a Russian nationalist who (from your words) was at a swamp rally. In other words, are you one of those who stood shoulder to shoulder with pedrils ??? Frankly, before you were much higher in my eyes. On the other hand, what to take from the Moscow intelligentsia request
                Quote: Normal
                . Yes, and crush, time and skill is not enough.

                I understand-actions, rallies, pickets against the Putin regime laughing
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 27 January 2014 13: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  what to take from the Moscow intelligentsia

                  Sasha! Well, fear God! Where did you see Moscow intrigue wassat There from every post rushing offended gebist who kicked out for unsuitability fool Believe the grandson of one of the first Soviet Chekists soldier laughing
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 13: 15
                    +2
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    Believe the grandson of one of the first Soviet Chekists

                    You are the grandson of Dzerzhinsky ??????? Your division, give me an autograph winked
                    1. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 27 January 2014 13: 22
                      +3
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      You are the grandson of Dzerzhinsky

                      No request But Artuzov’s grandfather drove for a while
            2. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 27 January 2014 12: 28
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The strange thing is that you constantly accuse me of what you do yourself

              Sasha request Well, he's one normal good The rest of the LGBT negative laughing Hi drinks Here you will break out of the clutches of the Aesculapius website and here again you are trying to reach the shaved skull - this is a quote from his post request Volodenki wassat Stability worse than the Kremlin am
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 13: 04
                +2
                Quote: Ruslan67
                Well, he's one normal

                No, I’m telling them two, the second one just hit you a minus laughing
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 27 January 2014 13: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  , the second you just slammed a minus

                  And he did not attend the police department .... at least a couple of months wassat
        2. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 27 January 2014 12: 31
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          .You, in turn, seeing that someone dared to criticize the swamp clowns you respected, immediately wrote the author in pro-Kremlin

          He just brought me in an emergency and confidently rushing to the marshal's epaulettes wassat
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 12: 44
            +3
            Quote: Ruslan67

            He just brought me in an emergency and confidently rushing to the marshal's epaulettes

            Hi Ruslan! Well, Duc minus one track is forbidden, that’s the liberals rod, although there are only two of them left on the site. Well, for a change of opinion laughing
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 27 January 2014 12: 48
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Well, for a change of opinion

              It is necessary on the site in addition to the emergency to introduce a new list -LIBERAL! Protected by the site administration! Freedom of speech ....... I !!!!!! wassat
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 13: 01
                +2
                Quote: Ruslan67

                It is necessary to introduce a new list on the site besides the emergency -LIBERAL

                And why, then everyone will immediately minus them, and so the people, not knowing who this or that, will support, assent.
                Remember when one seropagon miracle was registered under the nickname Makarov and wrote on his behalf. There were those who let him be called by middle name and plus wassat
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 27 January 2014 13: 06
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  let's call him by name and patronymic name pluses

                  I always thought that they fit another what And not for the priest tongue
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 13: 14
                    +2
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    And not for the priest

                    And the most important thing is that his former was driven into the skull laughing
                    1. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 27 January 2014 13: 16
                      +3
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      And most importantly,

                      Nothing personal, just ... fool
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 13: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Nothing personal, just ...

                        Look, maybe I can change the nickname for PUTIN V.V and get a picture of him, I wonder how many people want to ask the president a question laughing
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                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 13: 43
                        +1
                        Tie Ruslan and so the floor of the branch was hammered with any garbage.
                      4. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 27 January 2014 13: 52
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        tie and so the floor of the branch was hammered with any garbage.

                        Well, come on seriously. You think that the nonsense and chaos that is happening in Ukraine right now can be seriously discussed and it’s not even possible to draw any parallels with us7 Natsiki liberals are just an unintelligent democrat man and all this against the background of the attempts of the European State Department fool I deliberately did not go to the site and in all these discussions for the last few days because I ran into a ban like two fingers. Maybe now we need to hammer these branches with garbage so that what happens around schizophrenia becomes clearer?
                      5. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 27 January 2014 14: 37
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Maybe now we need to hammer these branches with garbage so that what happens around schizophrenia becomes clearer?

                        Yanukovych had schizophrenia. When he said that our path is Europe, although it doesn’t differ much with a great mind request
                      6. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 27 January 2014 14: 41
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Yanukovych had schizophrenia.

                        Why was? As far as I know, it is not treated but only stopped
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        .when said that our way is Europe

                        He said a lot of things. And the result? Maidan which is impossible to comment without a mat request Maybe it's better garbage on these branches? At least fun laughing And they don’t give a ban for jokes without a mat
  • Altona
    Altona 27 January 2014 08: 55
    +4
    Quote: demotivator
    I don't quite understand the author, is Bykov a "Russian nationalist"?

    --------------------------
    As I understand it, Bykov just wants a new anti-Putin movement, more fervent, as a result of which Mikhail First Prokhorov will become the president of all Russia ...
  • calocha
    calocha 27 January 2014 08: 58
    +2
    In Russia, nationalists of 20 years are being "raised". The question is, who is behind the "Natsiks" ?! It's good if the patriots of the Motherland, and if the recharge is coming from behind a hillock ... , the main thing is not to bend ..
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 27 January 2014 09: 46
      -4
      Quote: calocha
      In Russia, nationalists of 20 years are being "raised". The question is, who is behind the "Natsiks" ?! It's good if the patriots of the Motherland, and if the recharge is coming from behind a hillock ... , the main thing is not to bend ..

      Our Natsik underground and finance themselves mainly.
  • Ulairy
    Ulairy 27 January 2014 08: 59
    +2
    What, someone missed the "Russian revolt"? Well, it will begin with the burning of minibuses and construction sites with hostels of guest workers, and not with "swamp dances" ... I agree about "military coordination", and NATO has already performed a rehearsal of the war in Russia with impressive results. In Yugoslavia! (and where is she now, Yugoslavia)
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 27 January 2014 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: Ulairy
      What, someone missed the "Russian revolt"? Well, it will begin with the burning of minibuses and construction sites with hostels of guest workers, and not with "swamp dances" ... I agree about "military coordination", and NATO has already performed a rehearsal of the war in Russia with impressive results. In Yugoslavia! (and where is she now, Yugoslavia)

      The beginning will still be from the swamp. Mass is needed and media. and then ....
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 27 January 2014 09: 09
    +1
    The whole history of Ukraine, from the 17th century, the succession of atamans, sorry, hetmans. Everyone wanted to be closer to
    In the midst of Western-educated historians, philosophers, etc., there has always been hope for
    Square. Ukraine was between Poland and Russia, leaping under one wing, then under another. Yes, there was a reunion with Russia, slandered by modern Ukrainian analysts. But it was
    fiction, since the hope of independence was always burning. Now, after 20 years of independence, it’s becoming
    it is clear that in Ukraine there are no premises for uniting the people of Ukraine itself. And everything that is happening in Ukraine now is the original answer of the ataman’s walk-field.
    Well, the dreams of our homegrown, Russian spill, liberals about freedom, are just attempts to be closer to the feeding trough.
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto 27 January 2014 09: 10
    +4
    Games of sadists (nationalists and other Maidanists) are possible only against the background of masochism (weak-willed, weak power, surrendering its special forces, its government, constantly chasing (Yanukovych). Such a shnyaga will not work in Russia (now, at least). But certain conclusions necessary, because smart people learn from the mistakes of others, if possible, not allowing their own.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 27 January 2014 09: 19
    -3
    I’m thinking lately, and how the nationalists really come to power will muddle a specific Russophobic regime in Ukraine and the columns of refugees will reach us, Yes, Natsiks for Saudi money will start to launch not allah Akbar in the veil and bearded, but quite Slavs with bombs. Yes, it’s burning like fire along the borders. The Caucasus seems to be a kindergarten. What will our GDP do with ladies? And the fact that their mega project for cutting and laundering under the name Sochi - the Olympics seems to be covered with a copper basin becomes more and more obvious. (Not in the sense of conducting where they will get to, but in the event plan)
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 27 January 2014 09: 24
    +4
    In principle, this is also possible in Russia, just as long as we have inflated "prosperity" obtained from the sale of petroleum products, I don't know how long it will last, I have no sympathy for the Putin clique and would gladly support any anti-Putin movement, only all these "anti-Putin "movements usually pour water on the mill of the West, which is also unacceptable for me personally, so the choice is to bow to the US Embassy or silently support Putin's corrupt pseudo-democratic regime. So partly I can understand Ukrainians, Yanukovych is the same thief and balabol like Putin and throw off this corrupt power for happiness, but again, who will be the winner? The West. So the Ukrainians follow all sorts of demagogues-nationalists promising a "better future." It is sad all this that the 90s gave us two types of politicians: crooks and thieves like Putin's clique or the same Yanukovych or pseudo-patriots bought by the West, that's the whole choice, well, they deserve to see them.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 27 January 2014 09: 44
      0
      Quote: Standard Oil
      then the 90s gave us two kinds of politicians: crooks and thieves like Putin’s clique or the same Yanukovych or pseudo-patriots bought by the West, that’s the whole choice, well, they deserve to be seen.


      Yes, that’s why in Ukraine the people came to frenzied Nazism as the only force that speaks directly, we’ll hang, kill, shoot, select all the dear Ukrainians for you (we can continue - Russians, Georgians, etc.)
  • philip
    philip 27 January 2014 09: 29
    +1
    It may seem that I'm not talking about that. Legal regulations are out of date. The brains of these biorobots are washed by gay propaganda, libetasticism and rag stuff. So it is necessary to educate. Conduct educational work on ten thousand lashes to everyone, in the same place, on Independence Square. Tell me not pedagogically, I agree, for that effectively. Tell me, not democratic, of course, the democratic processes in Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. much more democratic. Say there are no suitable teachers, well, don’t tell. Assign this to the BERKUT, otherwise the guys stagnated while drinking the MOLOTOV COCKTAIL.
  • Name
    Name 27 January 2014 09: 41
    0
    And here is how Natsiks (and after all the majority from Western Ukraine there) are going to live in harmony with Jews of which there are a great many in Europe and with rear-wheel drive, with which you will need to handle, and ... laughing
    1. Denis
      Denis 27 January 2014 10: 49
      +2
      Quote: name
      how Natsiks (and after all the majority from Western Ukraine) are going to live in harmony with the Jews
      Geyropa swallows. In Estonia, gay parades of the Nazi sixes hold and nothing, keep quiet
  • Canep
    Canep 27 January 2014 10: 15
    +2
    These events are a bit like the Munich putsch. If so, Tyagnibok will go to jail and write "My bei" there. History repeats itself, perhaps.
  • yehat
    yehat 27 January 2014 10: 27
    -4
    "Yanukovych is the same balabol and a thief, like Putin"
    disagree fundamentally. Maybe their goals are similar, but that's just a different skill.
    Putin can do something for himself, leaving everyone happy
    Yanukovych, even if he wants to do something for everyone, will still leave him unhappy.
    That is the difference.
  • sinukvl
    sinukvl 27 January 2014 10: 53
    +3
    Aria - Patriot

    Spirits of distant mountains
    Rushing at full speed
    Your land is on fire
    Pray to the East
    They cut people like cattle,
    And rush to heaven

    And we have the soul -
    Heaven is open
    And the eternal argument
    Who is a stranger and who is his

    Each of us is a target
    Hide, do not hide in the shadow -
    Everywhere they find
    They shoot in the back here
    All that is sold is sold
    They rent their own!

    They burned the faith of their ancestors
    But her shadow is
    Among the forests
    Listen to the voice of the earth

    Your name is Patriot
    Who does not remember the roots, will not understand
    In the heart, the fire did not go out,
    He who is not with us is against us!

    We have one way out -
    A shot in the heart is a wedge
    Cover me!
    Leave the dead dead
    Act while alive -
    There is a war

    Blood flows over the stones
    Forget everything
    Walk straight,
    Listen to the voice of fire!
  • serge
    serge 27 January 2014 11: 30
    +3
    There are no Russian nationalists in Russia. The Russian people exist, but there are no publicly known Russian nationalists. Those whom the media call "Russian nationalists" are exclusively Jews by nationality, exist exclusively on Western money and work for the collapse of Russia. For example, Navalny, Belov-Potkin, Shiropaev, Kholmogorov. There is, of course, nationalism among the masses, but any Russian instinctively shies away from such "Russian nationalists" as Potkin and Navalny. Roughly the same with some nuances is observed in Ukraine. Among Ukrainian nationalists there are disguised Jews Tyagnibok with ancestors Frotman and Tsegelsky, Yatsenyuk with Jewish ancestors Bakai and Klitschko with Jewish ancestors again and a Jewish six-pointed family seal, which he gives to friends. Another thing is that Ukraine, invented by the Bolshevik Jews, actually consisted of three Russian states - Galicia, the Hetmanate with Kiev and Novorossia (including Crimea). The language of one of these states - Galicia - was recognized as the state language and, along with the invented history, was imposed on all of Ukraine. Twenty years of brainwashing had an effect - the Galitsaians lost their hearts and they sincerely began to consider themselves Ukrainians with an authentic history and language. In Little Russia, the people remained sane, in the Hetmanate they are ready to jump crazy, but they hold on. Actually Ukrainian nationalists are Jews and Galicians. That is, in Ukraine, the Jewish-Ukrainian nationalists have cannon fodder, which they command - these are the Galicians. In Russia, Jews of the type of Russian nationalists themselves are cannon fodder (they cannot create mass cannon fodder from Asians and Caucasians, only terrorist attacks). In this they envy the Jews of the Maidan. And the goal of both is the same - the collapse of the Russian state. They have already broken up into three parts (Belarus, Russia and Ukraine), now they are trying to split it further.
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 27 January 2014 12: 01
    +3
    whatever the homegrown demagogues weave here, you can be sure that the Ukrainian scenario will not work in Russia, for one simple reason, with a controversial attitude towards Putin, it should be admitted that, unlike Yanukovych, with "iron balls", and our "Maidan" men will already be on the bunk for breakfast ...
    1. virm
      virm 27 January 2014 12: 52
      -2
      Yeltsin, in '93, was also with iron balls. The result is hundreds of dead Russians. And the oligarchic regime in the country. All the wealth of the country went into the right hands.
  • The Urals
    The Urals 27 January 2014 12: 22
    0
    Interestingly, will gay men go to the Olympics from Ukraine or will they rebel on the Maidan? There will be no chance to scream then. And so the whole world will say about Western values.
  • tradizia
    tradizia 27 January 2014 12: 40
    -2
    Tired of all this somehow!
    Watch, read, listen to nonsense!
    Thanks to Prokhanov! I explained everything!
    They all went (Yanukovychs, Putin, Assad, McCain, Snowd
  • virm
    virm 27 January 2014 12: 51
    -2
    "Now that corpses with gunshot wounds have begun to be found on the Maidan, people are cutting each other's ears, and a wave of looting, robberies and murders is rolling through the city ..."

    When an article about Maidan begins with such outright lies and provocative statements, it is better not to read it at all.
  • vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 27 January 2014 13: 03
    0
    The flywheel was completely spun. And they began to promote it even before the collapse of the USSR (this is also the result of promotion). The Europeans "got ahead in time", on the wave of the Ukrainian people's discontent with the "pseudo-reforms" of the newly-minted leaders who have only one convolution in their heads - "everything for their own pocket." The EU and the US took advantage of popular discontent and only slightly pushed and provided financial support, and then it went off by itself, especially among young people who have "still got their brains". And they calculated on the basis of the experience of the previous "Maidan" - Yanukovych was weak at that time (put it too mildly), so using this they decided to "dump" him like a "cunning fox" Shavardnadze in Georgia. And establish the same regime on the wave of general discontent. It is unpleasant, but this scenario is almost fulfilled by the "irreconcilable" youth of Ukraine, who do not have enough wisdom to think in time: "What will happen next?" ...
  • parus2nik
    parus2nik 27 January 2014 13: 40
    0
    But the multinational Russian intelligentsia did not notice that only the nationalists were storming the "Golden Eagle" ... And why? It’s better to pass it off as a general popular impulse .. to powder your brains .. in other words ..
  • Wurger
    Wurger 27 January 2014 13: 46
    +3
    The title of the article as a flat-footed impotent, not in the ... nor in the Red Army. Comrade author Kondopoga or events in Biryulev did not teach anything? I called my comrades in Russia. Hatred is in the air. Only a spark is needed. Then the events in Ukraine will appear as a kindergarten. Because the goal will not be some kind of amorphous European integration or something else fagot, but the fight against a very specific threat to the Russian people from outsiders.
  • Hort
    Hort 27 January 2014 14: 38
    +1
    Oh, I'm tired of repeating, but I'll say it again: the national-democratic get-together discredited itself when it came out to Bolotnaya. Therefore, one should not take seriously the groaning and envious odes to the Maidan and its inhabitants from the representatives of the "national dema". As well as equalizing all nationalists with the same size.
  • Andryushamronyuk
    Andryushamronyuk 27 January 2014 14: 48
    0
    SBU, let the author first ask what the "Pravy Sektor" is and where are its leaders Mosiychuk, Biletskiy, and many others now, they have all been in prison for 3 years
  • rereture
    rereture 27 January 2014 14: 59
    0
    Here is a Russian Nazi with shit in his head "http://vk.com/id171201287"

    Russian nationalists "http://vk.com/sputnikipogrom"
    1. virm
      virm 27 January 2014 15: 25
      -1
      Do not scratch where it does not itch.
  • Wurger
    Wurger 27 January 2014 15: 05
    -1
    Here is a Russian Nazi with shit in his head "http://vk.com/id171201287"


    Oh well. Why are you slandering the "messenger"? Normal guy. Watch the video. Even other national patriots bark at him, because he has problems with diction. But to hell with her, in his videos he tells everything very sensibly. There is NOTHING AT ALL about Hitler or German National Socialism in the 40s. And you just "with shit in your head." Type did not read, but condemn?
    1. rereture
      rereture 27 January 2014 16: 57
      +1
      I read and subscribed to it. Sometimes I agree with him, but sometimes not. For example, I do not quite agree with how he relates to events in Ukraine. For example, he can clearly be traced, the Ukrainians are great, and the Russians would be ... slaves. Well done protesters, beat the golden eagle. Golden eagle - would be ... the one that hits children.

      To be honest, I don't want to have a hotbed of instability or NATO missile defense at my side. Plus, the "military" are threatening to blow up the nuclear power plant.
  • pawel1961
    pawel1961 27 January 2014 15: 18
    0
    another insanity !!!
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  • dddym
    dddym 27 January 2014 16: 09
    0
    http://vk.com/video113666987_167069333
    This is Ukraine - and it is worthy of respect - if you post this video on your resources, you will do a good deed! Do not be indifferent!
  • stranik72
    stranik72 27 January 2014 20: 28
    0
    I don’t know I have never met Russian nationalism, only in the media. But I personally know those who went for money during the "orange" revolution to sit in tents for Yushchenko, the official version for students of this earnings was "like collecting materials for a diploma (term paper), etc. on the topic of sociology during the period of dissatisfaction with the government , psychophysical personality traits of the opposition, the media as a mouthpiece of dissatisfaction with the authorities, etc. I wonder what topics today's Russians are working on on the Maidan (and there they are sure), who knows, is it really "Russian nationalism as the reason for the Galitans' speech."