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Begins with the collapse of the WestInsurgent opposition seized the regional administration building in Lviv and Rivne regions, stating that "taking power into their own hands." In Zhitomir and Poltava similar scenario was averted, that does not negate the essential: the Ukrainian government loses control over entire regions.


The regional parliaments of the Lviv and Rovno regions are controlled by opposition representatives. The detractors of Viktor Yanukovych (as well as the Maidan’s sympathizers) are the mayors of the regional capitals. For example, the mayor of Lviv, Andrei Sadovaya, said earlier that in his city “they will not comply with the laws adopted in violation of the constitution and common sense,” that is, the very laws that the Verkhovna Rada adopted on January 16. The opposition calls them nothing less than "totalitarian" and "repressive."

The fact that the population of the western regions of Ukraine, as well as the authorities elected by them, has a very negative attitude towards the current president and government, in principle, is not worth specifying. The West is a stronghold of the opposition, and this statement has become commonplace. However, Ukraine is a unitary state, where the heads of regional administrations (in our opinion, the governors) are appointed by the president. Sometimes in these appointments a balanced approach can be traced, when a local person is sent to supervise a region, sometimes alien to official Kiev, not allergic to the population, but loyal. Sometimes only loyalty is taken into account. Under Yushchenko, nationalists were governors of a number of eastern and southern regions. In turn, Yanukovych sometimes sent to the west of Ukraine “his own men on the board”, “Varyags from the East”, which the local population a priori cannot tolerate.

Vasyl Bertash, chairman of the Rivne Oblast State Administration, is at least local, otherwise he is a typical “Yanukovych man” - the leader of the local “regionals” and a member of the political council of the PR. By the way, just the day before, he was awarded the President of the Order of Merit of the first degree and went on vacation, that is, he did not find the capture of his administration.

The governor of the Lviv region, Oleg Salo, by the way, is also local, but the attitude towards him is much more intolerable. In the past, he headed the Ministry of Internal Affairs of both Lviv and Rivne, as well as Ivano-Frankivsk regions. After the Orange Revolution, two criminal cases were opened against him on the facts of violation of the right to vote (that is, the organization of election fraud) and abuse of official position. Salo even declared on the international wanted list. At the end of the 2013 of the year, that is, shortly before the start of opposition speeches, Yanukovych appointed Salo governor. The response to this appointment in the area was sharply negative. Local politicians unanimously declared that the president had appointed such an odious, hated person in the region, but a person personally loyal to him with one specific goal: to keep Lviv in check in the run-up to early elections. Not surprisingly, with such mutual antagonism, the regional council tried to simply evict the regional administration officials from the building they occupied shortly after the start of euromaidan.

On Thursday, a rally in front of the Lviv regional administration, convened as part of "supporting the rebellious Kiev" and the "All-Ukrainian strike," gathered several thousand people. At the end of the rally, the regional administration literally took by storm, and Salo was forced to sign a statement of his own resignation. After that, the stormtroopers declared that the townspeople were creating a “people's council” and “taking power into their own hands” by means of “their deputies” of the Lviv regional council (most of them, by the way, represent nationalist “Freedom”).

However, soon Salo declared that he had written a statement “under the threat of physical violence” and asked to be considered invalid. “I have been and remain loyal to the President of Ukraine, sharing his state position, his desire to establish peace and stability in Ukraine,” he stressed.

Another thing is that after the signing of the paper, the governor was literally put on the street: the regional administration building is now under the complete control of the self-styled “people's rad”.

In the Rivne region, the same scenario was previously implemented with the amendment that the governor, as mentioned above, is on vacation. With the slogans “Exactly, get up!”, The opposition simply broke the windows of the entrance doors and occupied the interior.

But in the Poltava region, located in the center of Ukraine, there was a "misfire". The administration was literally saved by the head of the city police, Vitaly Emets, and under almost comical circumstances (more precisely, tragicomic). When the opposition laid siege to the regional administration, he arrived at the scene and entered into negotiations. It ended with the fact that both the opposition and Emets sang the anthem of Ukraine together. Emets also offered to honor the memory of those killed in Kiev by the opposition with silence and conveyed to the activists a simple idea: the seizure of the building could lead to an escalation of the conflict and the demolition of tents on the local Maidan.

At the same time, in Zhytomyr, the opposition, who tried to break into the session of the regional council, was able to stop the police. And the rally in another “capital of Galicia” - Ivano-Frankivsk - was limited to a call for the resignation of the governor. Perhaps due to the fact that the protesters were relatively small - only 500 people.

Nevertheless, all this is a very bad signal for Viktor Yanukovych, and no one can guarantee that the Lviv and Rivne scenarios will not be implemented in other regional capitals of Western Ukraine, primarily in Ternopil and Ivano-Frankivsk, where the opposition can still take revenge. In the West, there are very few people who support the current president. Worse, the local authorities (with the exception of the governors) are openly hostile towards him, the worst thing is that no one can guarantee the loyalty of the local police and internal troops either (by the way, we recall that previously about 2 thousands of people and 200 cars blocked military units of internal troops in Lviv). Theoretically, internal troops and the "Berkut" can be pulled from the center. But for now they are obviously more necessary there.

Thus, Yanukovych simply does not have a foothold in the West, and the fact that local elites and activists are becoming tougher is obvious. Even in “revolutionary Kiev”, where the mayor's office was seized at the very beginning of the protests, the city administration and the opposition got along in the same building. Now the officials are driven out into the cold.

At the same time, the implementation of such a scenario in the east and south of Ukraine is not only doubtful, but almost impossible. The situation when the president controls only a part of the country is the first step towards its collapse. In that case, of course, if the confrontation continues and a compromise acceptable to all parties will not be found. While looking for him. Thus, Yanukovych proposed to the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, Vladimir Rybak, to convene an extraordinary session of parliament for the "immediate resolution of the political crisis." An extraordinary meeting has already been scheduled for January 28.
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  1. Orik
    Orik 25 January 2014 07: 33
    +32
    Let Yanek chew on further snot, grab and a chair under it. Rubicon crossed, it is necessary to cut.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 25 January 2014 11: 31
      +20
      Only power can stop chaos and lawlessness in the country.
      If now this bacchanal of unrest cannot be stopped by military force, the state of Ukraine will fall apart.
      The people of Ukraine have elected power in the person of the President and the Rada, and they must use force to pacify the militant crowd of hooligans and criminals who violate the quiet life of Ukrainian citizens.
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 25 January 2014 12: 32
        +15
        Yanukovych bezayytsovy president. The most preferable option for Ukraine is the Egyptian one, when the military will take power into their own hands and restore order, albeit by force, simultaneously removing Yanukovych and calling for the presidential election. I think it will be so, because the patience of the leaders of the golden eagle and the army is not unlimited
        1. catapractic
          catapractic 25 January 2014 15: 22
          +4
          there is an army in Egypt, but where does it come from in Ukraine? They are one and a half tanks and a couple of battalions will not scrape together after reductions in the armed forces, well, at least some of which remained and the Golden Eagle.
        2. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 25 January 2014 16: 25
          +5
          Quote: Dangerous
          Yanukovych bezayytsovy president.

          He can only steal from the people "cool" stuff!
        3. 120352
          120352 25 January 2014 21: 02
          +2
          And there is no army in Ukraine! And the police too. Only one "Berkut" remained.
          And in an amicable way, there is a concept (I think and an article) "For treason" and in Ukraine. By tradition, she is supposed to be shot. Maybe there are MTLB heels or two left in the "square" (tracks do not burn)? So it would be possible to go to the zone of excesses of the militants, and then according to the regulations: 1) stop, I will shoot; 2) a queue over the heads; 3) turn to defeat. Scatter immediately! There will remain a hundred idiots lying, so they have chosen their own destiny.
          And to repeat this in all cities where the rebels after that will remain. Blood is certainly bad! But a lot of blood - even worse! Do not want a lot of blood, do a little.
          1. anatoly57
            anatoly57 26 January 2014 07: 30
            0
            It’s good to recall China, Tiananmen Square, then you weren’t afraid of a little blood, saved a big one!
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          3. rolik
            rolik 27 January 2014 01: 41
            0
            Quote: 120352
            And in an amicable way, there is a concept (I think and an article) "For treason" and in Ukraine. By tradition, she is supposed to be shot.

            To do this, declare a state of emergency. And in order to do this, you need to remove the diapers and put on your pants. Or he thinks that having drained the country and running away from there, he will receive watered refuge in Russia. Who needs it here, it certainly will not be needed for GDP. And in the West and Europe they will gladly give him back. Will have to, as Polonsky in Cambodia molt))))
            Yes, such a prezik is a shame for the country.
        4. Old scoop
          Old scoop 26 January 2014 11: 15
          0
          The West threatened to freeze accounts. Now the whole gang is thinking about how to preserve property in the country and not lose money in offshore.
          1. Genur
            Genur 26 January 2014 14: 45
            +2
            You can't sit on two chairs ...
          2. Kolya
            Kolya 27 January 2014 03: 17
            0
            Quote: Old scoop
            The West threatened to freeze accounts. Now the whole gang is thinking about how to preserve property in the country and not lose money in offshore.

            That's why a power option is impossible - the loot abroad will be arrested
    2. Andof odessa
      Andof odessa 25 January 2014 13: 00
      +20
      If the government is not ready to use force, then there will be a force ready to receive power.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 26 January 2014 01: 56
        +4
        That's right - right in the top ten. Janus, in my opinion, is now calculating his "savings" on foreign accounts, but he blinked at the people and not.
    3. knn54
      knn54 25 January 2014 15: 04
      +15
      - "The regional parliaments of the Lviv and Rivne regions are controlled by representatives of the opposition."
      Not parliaments are controlled, but parliament buildings. This is a big difference.
      The people got to the choice between the current poor thief regime and the very bad - bandits from the West. Yushchenko has already brought “abbreviation” to Ukraine, now Tyagnibok’s turn.
      It is also scary that the EU and the USA need the collapse of Ukraine, but not bloodless.
      PS AND SLAVERY starts from the West.
      PP.S "There were worse times, / But there was no mean."
      1. Kolya
        Kolya 27 January 2014 03: 24
        0
        The East is now temporarily defeated, but these events will help the East sort out its werewolf leaders. The east of Ukraine is a crushing force, in the future it will be able to become such, but not under the banners of gangster-oligarchic power.
    4. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 26 January 2014 03: 29
      0
      it’s good soon the abscess will burst and the west of Ukraine will break away, let the Hutsul songs continue to sing
  2. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 25 January 2014 07: 38
    +20
    To block financing zapadentsev-let them seek money for pensions and salaries. They won’t last long.
    1. 222222
      222222 25 January 2014 11: 10
      +9
      FC Skif SU Today, 07:38 AM
      "Cut off funding for Westerners .."
      And there live pensioners veterans of World War II. old people, children .. What are they to blame? That a bunch of possessed ones is torn to the trough of Power?
      Fight against the investigation that against the wind .... only you will make things worse for yourself .. Let's see what will happen on January 28 in the Supreme Soviet .. But the "peaceful" "revolutionaries" have crossed their Rubicon ..
      1. alexdol
        alexdol 25 January 2014 12: 19
        +15
        222222 UA "" Cut off funding for Westerners .. "
        And there are retired veterans of the Great Patriotic War. old people, children .. What are they to blame? That a bunch of possessed people are striving to the trough of Power? "
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        Yes, of course, they are not to blame, but here you cannot please everyone! With such reasoning, we will come to a REVOLUTION! Let, if they are against these Banderlog, also say their WORD! My personal opinion is this: from the very beginning it was necessary to give an order for the use of FIRE-SHOOTING weapons, shoot to kill! if they did so, they would have cost minimal victims, today there will be more of these victims, but even now it is not too late to do it! No NEGOTIATIONS with the "opposition" - it simply does not exist today, there are EURO-BANDITS! And they must be DESTROYED WITHOUT ELIMINATION! Yanukovych has shown that he can only STEAL! He could have dealt with a few people without Western support, and today he just SHOOT! Don't give a damn about this "west", only the POWER option!
        Yesterday in the comments, I saw a wonderful verse about "MAIDAN", the author, unfortunately, is not known, I think he will be interesting for everyone:

        Civilians in a peaceful capital.
        Peaceful helmets. Peaceful faces.
        Behave peacefully. Peacefully on strike.
        They fight and protest peacefully.
        Those who are not peaceful have no place here.
        Peaceful slogans of peaceful protests.
        Peacefully kick peaceful feet
        Those who fell under them on the road.
        Everything is very peaceful, white and fluffy.
        Peaceful processions of peaceful fascists.
        Peaceful torches. Peaceful Bandera.
        In Kiev, the world - without account and measure.
        Morning on a foggy and dark night
        Peace-loving Maidan streams.
        He drinks tea peacefully. Peacefully requires cheese
        Coffee, lemons, harvesting sort.
        Every Friday in peace in the evening
        Reasons for a peaceful evening
        Peaceful "children" in the black terror.
        Peaceful chains for a peaceful "showdown".
        Peaceful hatred just for passers-by
        Yes, and hatred of drivers, too.
        All who are beyond the borders of the Maidan riot -
        "Carcasses", "titushki", "gang" and "junta".
        You thought the world was the singing of the violin
        The sun, hugs, flowers and smiles?
        No matter how! The world is now with a fist
        He breathes with malice and lies, he whistles.
        Peaceful Maidan, it does not sow, does not plow -
        Sings peacefully. Beats peacefully. Dancing peacefully.
        Peacefully blocks. Do not you agree?
        So, "titushka" ... So, dangerous! ...
        Peaceful Maidan got into holes
        The word once good is PEACE.
        1. kris
          kris 25 January 2014 12: 39
          +1
          Quote: alexdol
          Yes, of course, they are not to blame, but here you will not please everyone!

          And what have you done so that Bandera did not pass?
          1. 222222
            222222 25 January 2014 13: 13
            +4
            kris (8) RU Today, 12:39 ↑ "What did you do to prevent the Bandera people from getting through?"
            at not buzzing .. You yourself write that they say I did this or that .. and I suggest you do this or that .. One thing is that we are partial and discuss the problem and express our opinion what is also worth it .. Information confrontation ..
            And one should not underestimate its significance, especially in the presence of such a huge number of means of information and flows of lies ..
            1. kris
              kris 25 January 2014 13: 27
              0
              Quote: 222222
              kris (8) RU Today, 12:39 ↑ "What did you do to prevent the Bandera people from getting through?"
              at not buzzing .. You yourself write that they say I did this or that .. and I suggest you do this or that .. One thing is that we are partial and discuss the problem and express our opinion what is also worth it .. Information confrontation ..
              And one should not underestimate its significance, especially in the presence of such a huge number of means of information and flows of lies ..

              if you are not from Ukraine, then I apologize.
              1. 120352
                120352 25 January 2014 21: 08
                +2
                The fact that we express our opinion here is good. But the bandits do not read them!
          2. alexdol
            alexdol 25 January 2014 15: 54
            +9
            kris (8) RU "What did you do to prevent the Bandera from getting through?"

            Comrade "222222" has already answered you just below, and I completely agree with him! What would you actually like to hear? What are you ready to do yourself? For example, I am already 62 years old, last year I suffered a stroke, thank God my memory did not suffer, but even then, today I am ready to provide all possible assistance to the current government, even though I don’t RESPECT it, in putting ORDER! The power is undoubtedly thieves and got everyone, but these EURO-INTEGRATORS got even more! We have to go to COMPROMISE! Today, much depends on our government, even I am ready to take the WEAPON in my hands and go to war with these bastards! But I think that this is not entirely correct! You just need to connect the ARMY and all internal troops, and not make PEARS out of them for beating, but give them all the wartime powers!
          3. 120352
            120352 25 January 2014 21: 07
            0
            Sorry, Alaverdi: And you?
        2. 222222
          222222 25 January 2014 13: 06
          +9
          alexdol (1) UA Today, 12:19 ↑ I completely agree with you about civilians with a cocktail .. Molotov .. Here negotiations and words are in vain ... As the poet said: "Your word, comrade Mauser" ..
          You can’t touch the servants and you can’t substitute them, let alone betray them ..
        3. 120352
          120352 25 January 2014 21: 06
          0
          The verse is good!
  3. Chertkov Oleg
    Chertkov Oleg 25 January 2014 07: 55
    +20
    The point of no return by Ukraine is passed. Either donkeys will be pacified, or the padishah will leave. The people of Ukraine DON'T SLOPE THE COUNTRY !!!
    1. alone
      alone 25 January 2014 11: 05
      +7
      Quote: Oleg Chertkov
      or the padishah will leave. The people of Ukraine DON'T SLOPE THE COUNTRY !!!


      Actually, the seizure of power in the regions does not mean the collapse of the country. Is it that the Regions announced the withdrawal from the structure? In my opinion, there is simply no emptiness of power in the country. The authorities, which have lost the trust of all of the West and the East, had to be robbed less.

      I am sure that Ukraine will remain intact and the people will defend their state !!
      1. 222222
        222222 25 January 2014 11: 16
        +3
        23.01.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Odessa diary .. The reaction of the inhabitants of Odessa ....
        http://odessa36.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23674:2011-10-25
        -19-17-58&catid=2692:2012-05-24-18-40-21&Itemid=100016
      2. kris
        kris 25 January 2014 12: 35
        +10
        Quote: lonely
        I am sure that Ukraine will remain intact and the people will defend their state !!

        I do not agree.
        the people in Ukraine are now in a difficult situation.
        on the one hand scumbags who want to seize power.
        with another scumbag in power.
        It is surprising that people support the Golden Eagle, although there have been too many scandals with garbage over the past year. This is Vradievka and Nikolaev and many others. Anyone who has ever encountered garbage lawlessness will never believe them again.
        Although the same in Russia.
        And in Ukraine there is no leader who would not be tarnished.
        So what awaits us is a terrible scenario.
        Western regions are already under banderlogs; in the Crimea, the Tatars moved.

        PS: The worst thing is that Russia has created the same system where law enforcement officers protect the rights of corrupt officials and oligarchs. And the president, under which this system only grew and grew stronger, does not want to change anything.
        1. alone
          alone 25 January 2014 12: 50
          0
          Quote: kris
          on the one hand scumbags who want to seize power.
          with another scumbag in power.


          Well, Chris, they themselves answered this question)) just the same people will let the country collapse. The people then definitely know that both of them are of the same berry field.
          1. alone
            alone 25 January 2014 14: 20
            0
            Quote: lonely
            will give


            will not give !! I apologize for the inaccuracy! keyboard fails
            1. Sergh
              Sergh 25 January 2014 16: 10
              +9
              Quote: kris
              Although in Russia the same

              I don’t know which Russia, but in Novosibirsk we have peace and quiet, cops from drunk frost are being collected, they are constantly being watched at night. I go free from work at any time of the day. So for all ... don't!
              1. 120352
                120352 25 January 2014 21: 23
                +3
                And in St. Petersburg with the cops everything is the same as yours, in Novosibirsk.
                1. _Forgiven_
                  _Forgiven_ 27 January 2014 02: 10
                  0
                  By the way, about Peter. This city also maintains its status and does not allow a mess. Not for nothing Zadornov extolled this wonderful city
              2. kris
                kris 25 January 2014 23: 22
                +2
                Quote: Sergh
                Quote: kris
                Although in Russia the same

                I don’t know which Russia, but in Novosibirsk we have peace and quiet, cops from drunk frost are being collected, they are constantly being watched at night. I go free from work at any time of the day. So for all ... don't!

                Have you forgotten Kushchevka or Dalniy?
                and these are only the most resonant ones.
                In 2013, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Tatarstan committed 50% more crimes than a year earlier. This was announced today by the deputy head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia Yuri Alekseev at the final board of the republican department
                In total, in 2013 in Russia 3,5 thousands of crimes were recorded, 165 of thousands of disciplinary offenses committed by employees of internal affairs bodies were stopped.This data doubled the corresponding figures for 2012 of the year.
                And this is only fixed!
                1. Ustas
                  Ustas 26 January 2014 07: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: kris
                  Have you forgotten Kushchevka or Dalniy?

                  No need to escalate. The family is not without freaks. But this does not apply to systemicity. So it’s quiet throughout Russia.
              3. _Forgiven_
                _Forgiven_ 27 January 2014 02: 08
                0
                I agree that you don’t need to row the whole country under one comb. Novosibirsk, I believe, is an educated and cultural city. Similar cities remained on the territory of the Russian Federation, but there are also hotbeds of dirt and contention. Here a selective approach is needed
      3. muhomor
        muhomor 25 January 2014 12: 40
        +1
        The country will remain whole, but Russia has a chance to get on the western borders of the Russophobian neighbor abruptly the Baltic states and Poland.
        1. 120352
          120352 25 January 2014 21: 27
          +1
          Ukraine, as soon as it ceased to be Little Russia and was transferred by the Bolsheviks to the Germans in the First World War for the Brest Peace, all the time became more and more Russophobic. The new owners raised her like that, and when they left, the Bolsheviks tried to drive a wedge into the single soul of a single people. The gentlemen from the West also succeeded here. At first it was Bismarck's plan, then Dulles, and now Brzezinski.
    2. 120352
      120352 25 January 2014 21: 13
      +1
      However, it seems to me that everything will be at once: both donkeys and the padishah will be pacified and will leave. And then what? New donkeys and new padishahs?
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 25 January 2014 07: 57
    +17
    Yanukovych as always wants to sit on two chairs, I'm afraid his ass will break.
    1. ruton
      ruton 25 January 2014 11: 32
      +1
      I feel like we’ll lose our money .. Now they’ll throw off Yanukovych and say loans ask him, he borrowed .. We again put the wrong horse .. There was no sense from him, only licking, indecision and desire to please everyone.
      1. 120352
        120352 25 January 2014 21: 29
        +1
        So loans, according to TV, have already been stolen! And there are none on any accounts. They shoved them in their pockets.
    2. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 25 January 2014 11: 46
      +8
      Perhaps Yanek’s money is in the west and therefore he is pulling rubber, he’s afraid that he will block access to the money from the geyropa if he disperses the geyromaydan.
      1. Andof odessa
        Andof odessa 25 January 2014 13: 07
        +5
        his son (president) seems to be one of the oligarchs. and in Europe they are already raising the question of nationalizing money in the accounts of oligarchs earned by corruption. that is, all the money. (After all, they also have an economic crisis). so bidding and merging will begin soon. but it seems to me that if within 1 month they don’t put things in order and begin to bend under the bastards, then the seizure of the admin of the buildings will begin in the east and south. and then there will definitely be an end to Ukraine.
        1. alone
          alone 25 January 2014 13: 09
          +4
          Quote: AndofOdessa
          his son (president) seems to be one of the oligarchs. and in Europe they are already raising the question of nationalizing money in the accounts of oligarchs earned by corruption. that is, all the money. (After all, they also have an economic crisis).


          )) By the way, dad became an oligarch-billionaire right after dad became president.
          to become a billionaire, he had enough 6 months !!
          1. kris
            kris 25 January 2014 13: 18
            +3
            Quote: lonely
            )) By the way, dad became an oligarch-billionaire right after dad became president.
            to become a billionaire, he had enough 6 months !!

            it is a fact ! property grabbed in full. with the support of prosecutors, garbage and SBU!
            1. Sergh
              Sergh 25 January 2014 16: 31
              +4
              Quote: AndofOdessa
              and in Europe they are already raising the question of nationalizing money in the accounts of oligarchs earned by corruption

              Why are you talking about nonsense! Did you come up with it yourself or read it in the murzilka? Nobody will trade and work with banks and other assets for such gingerbreads with this country, this will happen the day after your "nationalization". The whole world will instantly withdraw all its assets from there and the country WILL DIE!
              Quote: ruton
              Now Yanukovych will be thrown off, and they will say loans ask him, he borrowed ..

              You confused yourself a little with the state. Though a little think, Che write ...
              Putin in six seconds will select the Ukrainian state. real estate for this amount + a fine will bring down 200% and there’s still a lot of leverage that any opposition will go to the Maidan without panties.
              1. 120352
                120352 25 January 2014 21: 35
                0
                Opposition without panties on the Maidan? Cool! The main thing is that the men there do not begin to make "love" with each other in a European way. Children cannot look at it!
              2. Andof odessa
                Andof odessa 27 January 2014 13: 10
                0
                In "not a murzilka" I read, but if you believe that it is impossible, clarify about the arrests of property and accounts in France of family members of African dictators. and on account of nationalization, see Cypriot banks.
                but the information did go through the web.
          2. 120352
            120352 25 January 2014 21: 32
            +1
            Dad just gave him an ice cream once ...
        2. 120352
          120352 25 January 2014 21: 31
          +1
          East, South and Odessa have never considered themselves Ukraine! There and on mov-something nobody razmovlyat!
    3. muhomor
      muhomor 25 January 2014 12: 44
      +2
      Quite right, but the chairs are in separate rooms. And the president now faces a painful choice. But the "western" chair is the end of a career and Yulina is a camera.
      1. 120352
        120352 25 January 2014 21: 38
        +3
        By the way, it's a good idea to put Yanek in Yulia's cell! You look, she will recover immediately, otherwise it takes so long without an "inner core", that is. without a man ... Well, you get the idea. And he will not be so bored to sit for life. You look, they will make up in the bed.
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 25 January 2014 07: 57
    +12
    More recently, the federal president was praised that he allegedly stopped the war in Syria. Syria is far away, but Ukraine is nearby. And not just nearby. These are all relatives, friends. So it's time to act.
    1. major071
      major071 25 January 2014 08: 28
      +18
      Russia can act only in words. I think that those who conceived this revolution (and you can't call it another way) are sleeping and seeing when Russia will start to act from a position of strength. This will immediately untie their hands and the introduction of Western troops they will meet with songs and flowers. What they achieve. am
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 25 January 2014 08: 39
        +16
        Zapadentsy - yes. But Eastern Ukraine is unlikely.
        I think that Russia is unlikely to act only in words. It's just that not everything needs to be yelled in the press and on TV.
        1. muhomor
          muhomor 25 January 2014 12: 49
          +7
          Russia is connected by the Olympics.
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 25 January 2014 13: 15
          +5
          Quote: Banshee
          I think that Russia is unlikely to act only in words. It's just that not everything needs to be yelled in the press and on TV

          I really hope so. Because this Yatsenyuk ...
          "A social crisis has arisen in Ukraine, and it will be very difficult to find a way out of it without the mediation of Western partners," said Arseniy Yatsenyuk, leader of the Batkivshchyna faction. "We are not facing a political crisis, but a social crisis, it will be very difficult to get out of it without the mediation of our Western partners. We consider it necessary that our western partners be involved in this process, " - he told reporters on Friday in Kiev after a meeting with the European Commissioner for Enlargement and European Neighborhood Policy Stefan Fule, the press service of the Batkivshchyna VO reports.
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136729.html

          And on the Maidan, before the launch on Grushevsky, "encouraging speeches" are heard, like "The USA will help us!"
          Ostap Benderovich, damn it!
          1. Sergh
            Sergh 25 January 2014 17: 00
            +3
            Quote: Egoza
            "encouraging speeches" are heard on Grushevsky, like "The USA will help us!"

            USA??? Why are they there, poppy overeating? How familiar this all is. It is good that we have long expired ... and, in the sense, have passed.
          2. 120352
            120352 25 January 2014 21: 42
            +1
            Stupid! USA helps ONLY MYSELF. And Ukraine, the United States, will simply be driven away.
          3. Ustas
            Ustas 26 January 2014 07: 59
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            "A social crisis has arisen in Ukraine, and it will be very difficult to find a way out of it without the mediation of Western partners," says Arseniy Yatsenyuk, leader of the Batkivshchyna faction.

            Moscow warns the US and the EU from interfering in Ukrainian events and calls not to encourage the actions of gunmen operating in Ukraine, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
            Look
    2. Ustas
      Ustas 25 January 2014 09: 11
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      These are all relatives, friends.

      Sometimes relatives are often on opposite sides of the barricades.
      1. 120352
        120352 25 January 2014 21: 44
        +1
        This is precisely the main feature of the civil war.
  6. Corsair
    Corsair 25 January 2014 08: 23
    +7
    Quote: from article
    However, soon Salo declared that he had written a statement “under the threat of physical violence” and asked to be considered invalid. “I have been and remain loyal to the President of Ukraine, sharing his state position, his desire to establish peace and stability in Ukraine,” he stressed.

    As a person and citizen, of course, he can declare allegiance and loyalty ... But not as an official.
    The "steam locomotive of power" in the western regions is already "Tu-Tu" ...

    Against this background, it is EXTREMELY strange that:
    An extraordinary meeting is already scheduled for January 28.

    Every MOMENT counts, and the government "calves" ...
    In the face of a systemic crisis and confusion in its ranks.

    How many yanyk will last with such matrimony?

    PS: As the classic said: "Death delay is like"
  7. makarov
    makarov 25 January 2014 08: 26
    +17
    "in Lviv and Rivne regions, saying that" he is taking power into his own hands. "In Zhitomir and Poltava, a similar scenario was prevented, which does not negate the main thing: the Ukrainian government is already losing control over entire regions."

    Yesterday there was a similar scenario in Dnepropetrovsk. What ended (?), I do not know yet. But, the mayor of my city was crap in full, held an extraordinary session, and for the first time in 3,5 years he spoke in a normal speech, told how he always listened to the aspirations of the people (it turns out that he did this even when he took business). There are no words from indignation, - the rarest scoundrel, and the blue thief of the first guild ...
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 25 January 2014 08: 47
      +11
      May God grant you this Test! Honestly, I did not expect that it would come to that — it is an indicator of the weakness of power.
      The opposition and the authorities have shown their failure. As I understand it, the people no longer recognize the opposition. The age-old question: "What to do?"
      But all this will weaken Ukraine so much that the question will arise about the country's integrity. Yes, the authorities finally brought the country, no authority. I was in Kiev in the summer, so I know about the permissiveness of the police (in some settlement the cops raped a little girl, and from them, like water off a duck's back) and the raiding of Yanukovych's "descendants" (they say, they simply rewrote firms for themselves "dear ones"). In one word - GET PLAYED!
      1. Ustas
        Ustas 25 January 2014 09: 22
        +2
        Quote: Kasym
        But all this will weaken Ukraine so much that the question will arise about the integrity of the country

        I remembered Gleb Bobrov's novel "The Age of the Stillborn"
        UKRAINE YOU WITH WHO?
      2. Nikaviz
        Nikaviz 25 January 2014 09: 28
        +7
        But what infuriates ... this is not a normal LEADER !!!!! Solid buy, sell ... am
        1. muhomor
          muhomor 25 January 2014 12: 52
          0
          Maybe there's. At least Vitrenko.
      3. avt
        avt 25 January 2014 11: 31
        +5
        Quote: Kasym
        Honestly, I did not expect that it would come to that — it is an indicator of the weakness of power.

        request You surprise me ! It was possible to harbor some illusions about "independence" and the state way of thinking of the Ukrainian authorities well at 91. And then against the backdrop of euphoria that came to Ukraine with all its weight of "independence". But everything clearly fell into place in the form of a video picture of a series of pornographic elections from the Bush era, when all these "independent" people were forced to "vote" to the desired result. Then, well, any sane person, even with romantic illusions about democracy, could see what kind of “elite” it was and what awaited the inhabitants of the country under their leadership. And now the final is coming - the apotheosis, well, a complete analogy with February 1917, only that there is no war and do not indulge in the armed people.
        Quote: Kasym
        Yes, the authorities finally brought the country,

        I do not agree with a specific verb. Why did they bring it? They didn’t bring the country, they converted it into specific benefits and money for themselves, but at the end of 2013, the question simply arose of who specifically and to whom would sell Ukraine, as a territory with a population and for how much. Naturally, with the opportunity to rebound with the received fee.
        Quote: Kasym
        But all this will weaken Ukraine so much that the question will arise about the integrity of the country

        Will get up ?! laughing And why in the future tense? He is already standing and currently he is SOLVED.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 25 January 2014 12: 37
          +4
          Good day to you! And why be surprised - I do not live there. View, as they say, from the side. I’ve been there, acquaintances have appeared, and there are colleagues too - and it all became somehow not indifferent.
          Well, conversion and brought. I think that you should not find fault with words like that. And about the ESSENCE. In the days of the USSR, they all introduced the meaning of this word. And probably already for the Ukrainians themselves this word has become a household word.
          In the future tense, because it didn’t come to calls for the separation of one or another part of the country.
          I agree that all this goes into the analogy of 1917. But as I understand it, on the Maidan the oppositionists are already covered and watered with fire extinguishers. Then who will come to power? Type Bandera-nationalists. These will lead to collapse.
          Honestly, I don’t understand Yanukovych. After all, he went through the orange revolution of Yushchenko, he saw everything. He now looks like a hypnotized banderlog from a famous cartoon. And Western puppeteers play the role of Kaa boa. How can I be so styled before the West, I don’t understand. hi
          1. avt
            avt 25 January 2014 13: 11
            +2
            Quote: Kasym
            View, as they say, from the side

            Well, from the outside, it is sometimes more visible than from the inside, where "the drunken air of freedom turned the head of Professor Pleischner"
            Quote: Kasym
            because it didn’t come to calls for the separation of one or another part of the country.

            Let’s put it already announced in the Crimea, and the zapadiens are already specifically expelling “not their own” and in Kiev demanding a “new ruler”, and this will be more than statements.
            Quote: Kasym
            Then who will come to power? Type Bandera-nationalists. These will lead to collapse.

            Yes, they are already going past the Klitschko-Kerensky stage, as a transitional option before the election.
            Quote: Kasym
            I don’t understand Yanukovych.

            request God did not give a horny cow. The Ukrainian edition of the hunchback, improved and supplemented.
            Quote: Kasym
            How can I be so styled before the West, I don’t understand.
            Well, it's very simple. An example of this is Pavlo Lazorenko. It is not enough to steal - it is necessary to save, but the export of capital to "first-class Western banks" is a specific razvodilov of "common people" about the "inviolability" of the inviolability of private property. They are fools and really do not understand that taking assets abroad is like tying up to themselves ginetalia, to give the free end of the rope into the wrong hands and joyfully rubbing his hands to talk about freedom of movement. And the claw got stuck - the whole bird disappears.
            Quote: Kasym
            . And Western puppeteers play the role of a Kaa boa
            So this character is not a stupid author composed - a freemason and the son of a freemason, and besides a scout and son of a scout. Hence the passion for allegories.hi
      4. slvevg
        slvevg 25 January 2014 14: 18
        +1
        May God grant you this Test! Honestly, I did not expect that it would come to that — it is an indicator of the weakness of power.

        I personally would like to believe that this power will go away, and not such a gangster-thieves' gang to replace. Criminality will never be statist. And this is not an indicator of the weakness of the current government, but an indicator of the lack of strategic foresight of the situation in the country and digging into the cannon. They are inactive, because the point is playing for the loot that the West can ... impose sanctions, and there also the children learn.
    2. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 25 January 2014 10: 30
      +7
      Yesterday there was a similar scenario in Dnepropetrovsk. What ended (?), I do not know yet. But, the mayor of my city was crap in full, held an extraordinary session, and for the first time in 3,5 years he spoke in a normal speech, told how he always listened to the aspirations of the people (it turns out that he did this even when he took business). There are no words from indignation, - the rarest scoundrel, and the blue thief of the first guild ...
      You are right Janek and K have not been engaged in the country since 2010, but only in "cutting" the budget and "pushing" the business.
    3. 120352
      120352 25 January 2014 21: 52
      +2
      To seize premises occupied by power structures, albeit together with furniture, does not mean to TAKE POWER. AUTHORITY is RESPONSIBILITY! Do the militants have it? Do the militants have the opportunity to take it upon themselves? What can they do for people? Will they pay increased pensions to the elderly, provide necessary schools and hospitals, create new highly paid jobs, provide housing for those in need? Do they have anything for this?
      They free these rooms for someone else. I even guess for whom. And it will not be Ukrainians. And not even the Slavs at all.
  8. delfinN
    delfinN 25 January 2014 08: 27
    +2
    Yanukovych himself does not decide anything; he expects that Akhmetov will order him. But he has not yet agreed with all the local oligarchs how to divide the country.
  9. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 25 January 2014 08: 30
    +5
    Quote: Gardamir
    More recently, the federal president was praised that he allegedly stopped the war in Syria. Syria is far away, but Ukraine is nearby. And not just nearby. These are all relatives, friends. So it's time to act.

    and GDP does work, but you can only act with sane people. if on the part of the power structures of Ukraine it is still possible to call "sane", at least with a stretch, then from the opposition there are no sane. Or ready-made "fascists" with whom it is impossible to negotiate, tk. they themselves do not know what tomorrow their left leg will want, or they are people behind whom there is no influence on the street and they simply cannot fulfill the agreement.
  10. Arhj
    Arhj 25 January 2014 08: 44
    +5
    "Insurgent opposition" ... Judging by what is reported in the media, the insurgent opposition is usually a few hundred screaming gulps that interfere with the lives of others. Yanukovych is afraid of the West's reaction, but if he continues to be afraid, then the issue of imposing sanctions against his administration will become irrelevant - the administration will disappear.
  11. Farvil
    Farvil 25 January 2014 08: 47
    +7
    I understand the power expended; well, not to go against it, led by the Nazis, there is a limit to everything.
  12. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 25 January 2014 09: 23
    +4
    To allow the collapse of Ukraine should not be, it will be an unforgivable mistake.
    What is happening there now is the US reaction to the strengthening of Russia.
    If we allow the collapse of Ukraine, the goal of the undertaking will be achieved.
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 25 January 2014 11: 12
      +2
      If we allow the collapse of Ukraine, the goal of the undertaking will be achieved.


      Just the opposite - mattresses and geyevrop Ukraine only need the whole !. No pieces will suit them. In the event of the collapse of Ukraine, all agreements between Russia and Ukraine are terminated, and, in addition, all agreements between Russia and Turkey regarding the Crimea come into force, and under these agreements Crimea belongs to Russia, if Russia renounces its rights to Crimea, Crimea automatically passes to Turkey, no other options are provided, in addition, these agreements were confirmed by England and France, and it does not matter what it was a long time ago. With the collapse of Ukraine, Crimea will automatically become Russian again, and in this case, there can be no talk of any NATO advance into Ukraine, but just pieces of Ukraine, for the strategic goals of the West, are of no interest to anyone. And the goals are simple and obvious - further weakening of Russia, and ideally its fragmentation. In addition, if NATO could manage to crush Ukraine under themselves, this would mean that the flight time of hypersonic cruise missiles to strategically important infrastructure facilities in Russia would be counted in minutes, and Russia's nuclear potential would be on the sights by deploying anti-ballistic systems in Ukraine.
  13. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 25 January 2014 09: 39
    0
    Two-faced Yanuk is rapidly losing power.


  14. Neophyte
    Neophyte 25 January 2014 09: 53
    +5
    The return point is passed. The Ukrainian authorities can no longer control the situation. Ukrainian media instantly
    switched to support of the Maydan people. None of the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is able to take a tough decision on
    suppressing the rebellion. Yanukovych is afraid to impose a state of emergency in the country, and this is a signal for the collapse of Ukraine as a state. Moscow is silent correctly, troops cannot be sent in, it will be worse for us, as this will cause discontent not only in Ukraine but throughout the world.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 25 January 2014 10: 22
      +2
      Matthias Rust, who sat on Red Square and fired the military leadership of the USSR, is now a poker player and millionaire investor. It is necessary to check whether the real owners of Ukraine lost in Monte Carlo ... because card debt is a debt of honor and they are obliged to transfer it in this case, and the population can calm down and fertilize the gardens.
  15. Marconi41
    Marconi41 25 January 2014 10: 07
    +4
    Ukraine does not have such a big new history. If you dig a little memory, then you can recall another Maidan. Then, using such measures, one pimple president was elected. How did this help? Not a penny! After some time, he was thrown as well as the previous one. If Maidan wins again now - the fascists will be pulled to the side with lightning speed (they will let the same Golden Eagle draw themselves back), and in the place of the leader, a person who is now almost invisible will most likely come. Holy M / Trinity it will be already used up material.
    That this will bring Russia - nothing good! In a couple of years, the story will repeat itself !!!
  16. Bosk
    Bosk 25 January 2014 10: 22
    -1
    Give! a referendum on the forced disconnection of western Ukraine, or to build a couple of dozen factories around the world so that the guys had something to do!
  17. paul72
    paul72 25 January 2014 10: 24
    +1
    unfortunately, zapadentsy will again bend all Ukraine under themselves
    nothing good is expected for residents of the southeast
    will work silently while zapadentsy jump in embroidered shirts
    the Russian language will continue to supplant
    in general, except for the mess, nothing good will be on the outskirts
    1. Bosk
      Bosk 25 January 2014 10: 30
      0
      Unfortunately now such "rotten" times have come - "MINORITY (A) rules the majority.
  18. Vako
    Vako 25 January 2014 10: 25
    +3
    Everything, impotent Yanukovych has outlived itself!
  19. Andronic
    Andronic 25 January 2014 11: 01
    +1
    The country is de facto split + seems to be de jure already. Failure to comply with federal laws removes areas from a single legal field. What does this lead to? To total nihilism before the law.
  20. calocha
    calocha 25 January 2014 11: 08
    +2
    Everything was prepared in advance, the Army was not in vain .. was declining. SBU is inaudible and invisible. It is necessary to create self-defense units (police, the Ministry of Emergencies, soldiers and people's squads) and keep the defense, and it is better to send part from all areas to Kiev to ORDER !!!! And from Kiev further west ..
  21. duke
    duke 25 January 2014 11: 25
    +3
    There remains the option of separating the western regions, the arrest of this shobla Tyagnibok and Klitschko in embrace with Yatsenyuk, otherwise this round dance will never end ... Alas and ah ... All the same, the eastern and western regions can no longer and do not want to live together ... it is necessary to give the Zapadents the opportunity to live independently, even in Europe, even near Poland, even near Romania, but without getting into the pocket of the eastern regions, then we’ll see, and I’m afraid that all other measures will no longer help ... They think that if they gulp, run with a pitchfork, burn tires, attack the police and organize pogroms, instead of working, will they live like in Europe? Well, hell ... And there, the European police will mercilessly show them how to love their homeland and be law-abiding, only cheap zapadenskie newspapers and CNN will not show this ... Without the surgical department of rotten organs, decay will continue and the whole organism may die .. .
  22. vkrav
    vkrav 25 January 2014 11: 55
    +2
    It is difficult to judge the reliability, but Tsarev said that local maydaunas tried to capture the Rivne NPP:
    “There were attempts to intimidate the employees of the nuclear power plant and put pressure on their families with a demand to secure access to the station.

    It should be noted that the seizure of the nuclear power station may serve as a reason for the entry of NATO troops into Ukraine, ostensibly in order to protect a nuclear facility that poses a potential threat to the whole world.

    By the way, earlier there was information that two American warships entered the Black Sea. They are at the ready in its waters, ostensibly in order to ensure security should an emergency arise during the Sochi Winter Olympics.

    Do you believe that the Russians needed the help of America? Me not",

    This is from his facebook page
  23. Altona
    Altona 25 January 2014 11: 56
    +3
    Quote: FC Skif
    Block financing zapadentsev

    ------------------------------
    How can he do this? All the money to support the "free Maidan" goes through diplomatic mail ... Kiev is crammed with non-governmental organizations to the eyeballs ... The US has already officially recognized the infusion of $ 5 BILLION into the "development of Ukrainian democracy", not in support of the economy, but in support of "democracy". .. Well, whole divisions can be armed with small arms and uniforms ... By the way, why do the "activists" of the Maidan walk in brand new kevlar helmets, tactical equipment, behind a backpack-molle, trousers and a tunic - a Bundesian Fleetharn or an American Woodland digital? Where does all this come from?
  24. 31231
    31231 25 January 2014 12: 27
    +1
    Quote: Gardamir
    More recently, the federal president was praised that he allegedly stopped the war in Syria. Syria is far away, but Ukraine is nearby. And not just nearby. These are all relatives, friends. So it's time to act.


    Another unclouded. How to act? Troops to enter? What has the South and East of Ukraine already offended someone?
    The near power in Ukraine, all 22 years of independence, brought the country to a rift, and Russia was to blame. At the same time, Ukraine itself elected this power.
    Aren't you tired of duplicating this nonsense?
    Fifty gas? Hold on! Credit? Hold on!
    Send fighters? And what are adequate Ukrainians themselves not capable of dispersing this headless scum?
    What more do you want? A weapon for Golden Eagle? So they ask, I think Woland will not refuse.
  25. ruslan207
    ruslan207 25 January 2014 12: 29
    -1
    Russia gave Yanukovych a loan of 15 billion, another government will pass, it will say we have nothing to take, all this Yanukovych disappeared
    1. 31231
      31231 25 January 2014 22: 15
      0
      It is understandable, you are Jews in your repertoire. The country of the brothers is facing a civil war, but you count the money. And how do you think then to respect you? Dumb, I communicate with such.
  26. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 25 January 2014 12: 34
    +1
    Partitioning the country will not end. Westerners do not need their impoverished west without a rich east, they need power over the east and the ability to rob it. And until they get this opportunity, nothing will end. Now is the time to disconnect, when the Western take power, they will start shooting for separatism.
  27. ruslan207
    ruslan207 25 January 2014 12: 45
    -3
    chunga-changa-By the way, all gas and oil deposits in Ukraine are in the western regions
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 25 January 2014 20: 31
      +1
      Not properly. Here are links to maps. One general, the second in detail about oil and gas. It is visible not with the naked eye about the deposits and where they are all, but where there are more. Moreover, Westerners have been exploited since ancient times and will soon be able to produce nothing but unemployed Galicians. Moreover, the main mineral wealth of Ukraine is by no means oil and gas, it is coal, iron ore, uranium, manganese. In the west, it doesn’t even smell anything, well, maybe, as expected, a little gray. Moreover, the processing of all this is in the east and there is still something to share.
      http://www.segodnya.ua/img/users/2/29/map_ukr.jpg
      http://beloil.ucoz.ru/Ukrnafta/karta.jpg
      1. ruslan207
        ruslan207 25 January 2014 22: 52
        0
        a-changa, in fact, Ukraine has its own gas, although it is not enough, but 60%
      2. ruslan207
        ruslan207 25 January 2014 22: 52
        0
        a-changa, in fact, Ukraine has its own gas, although it is not enough, but 60%
  28. muhomor
    muhomor 25 January 2014 13: 01
    +2
    Dear forum users! Let's not wave ... There are probably professionals in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine who know HOW to stop the rebellion by force. But the Russian government should very energetically take up the search, education and support of the new Ukrainian leader. That there should be a normal, not odious, pro-Russian candidate.
  29. Orakyl
    Orakyl 25 January 2014 13: 15
    +1
    Well, the crowd captured the building, so what next !? their brains are locked up, chaos and ruin, swell, steal, and only people will set themselves against themselves. they’ll sit and be proud of themselves until the police arrive and ask: why did you decide that you can behave this way, explaining that ignorance of the law does not relieve you of responsibility. and all your house is prison
  30. Egoza
    Egoza 25 January 2014 13: 24
    +4
    Well, while politicians are "having fun" Kiev comes full of Arctic fox
    "The press service of the Ministry of Ecology of Ukraine has released a statement on the situation in Kiev. This is reported by the Government Portal." Over the past 30 years after Chernobyl, Kiev is again threatened by environmental danger! The capital of Ukraine is suffocating from the stench of car tires, which are burning for the second day on Hrushevsky Street as a result of mass protests. Tens of thousands of people were captured by the black smoke. Among them are not only protesters, but also civilians living in nearby houses, and especially children who go to kindergartens and schools nearby. Burning tires is strictly prohibited in the EU and other countries. Worn tires are classified as hazardous waste of class 3, therefore, their handling is regulated by a number of regulatory documents and agreements, the main of which is the Basel Convention on the control of the transboundary movement of hazardous and other wastes, as well as their disposal. Rubber and tire industry enterprises are included in the list of carcinogenic hazard by the International Agency for Research on Cancer. Staying more than half an hour in the hotbed of burning rubber causes serious harm to health ...If such an environmental aggravation lasts another 3-5 days, it threatens irreparable changes in the environment."further - here http://polemika.com.ua/news-136727.html
  31. individual
    individual 25 January 2014 14: 29
    0
    When a crowd rages in squares, this is one thing.
    And when parallel authorities are created, this is a coup d'etat and negotiations are too late.
    1. 120352
      120352 25 January 2014 22: 15
      +1
      I really doubt that the bodies created by the bandits are ready to perform power functions. If what they are suitable for, then for transplantation. And they need to be transplanted into the zone. It would be necessary to provide what ours. More Northern. Not south of Taimyr.
  32. Cristall
    Cristall 25 January 2014 15: 12
    +5
    the fact that Lviv and Rivne (surprisingly not Ivano Frankovsk) were captured is physically. De jure, they were "captured" there when the residents of Lviv and other Westerners voted for VO Svolot. That is, all these nationalistic shouts, disobedience were there even before Bydlomaidan. Remember, they never admitted disobeyed before. shouted about everything under the guise of their Pro Ukrainian terms about "violations of the constitution and other anti-human." Same to me, Pontius Pilates.
    So no wonder. Physically, nothing happened. Legally, too.
    They just announced what they have.
    By the way, I do not think that most zapadentsev tuned to this scenario. They are also people and they need peace and order. Confused by certain people (over 500 people in Ivano-Frankivsk - the second Lviv by nationalists)
    Once again we see how zapadentsy (more precisely, the radical wing) is trying to bend the East, the puppeteers, of course, are sitting across the border, and the customers are even further away.
    The bad thing is that we have no way to influence people's minds. Yes, east work. We even have a kind of informational silence. And there it rages, General Frost does not save.
    I won’t imagine that in Odessa, at minus 10, someone would stand in a crowd instead of work and paychecks, then you’ll run 10 minutes to a stop or go home and rejoice that you are not frozen.
    In general, it is too early to make loud statements about a split, partition and so on. The disease needs to be treated, otherwise "acne" will crawl out all over Ukraine.
    1. 120352
      120352 25 January 2014 22: 21
      +2
      So after all, they have already climbed out everywhere, except for the immunized Odessa and the region, New Russia with the Crimea, Donetsk and Kharkov. And everything where acne climbed out, it would be necessary to amputate and give a geyropa. Although they, there, in the West, probably already had no vacancies of domestic workers. And there were always enough prostitutes and mine.
  33. moremansf
    moremansf 25 January 2014 15: 15
    +4
    Everything has already gone too far, neither the opposition leaders, much less the country's leadership, are controlled by the Western emissaries ... they can’t solve this problem peacefully if they started to seize and kill policemen, the authorities must take harsh measures ...
  34. tochila
    tochila 25 January 2014 15: 29
    +4
    At this stage, it seems that without partitioning the country (artificially created education) it will not do! And it’s good if it will be without a big bloodfall!
  35. SeaSnake
    SeaSnake 25 January 2014 15: 44
    +3
    But in any case, mudakovich is already a political corpse ... Until recently, I thought that it was impossible for me to hate someone more than this three-membered assumption, I was mistaken.
  36. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 25 January 2014 15: 45
    +2
    Ukraine is heading for a civil war and is getting closer and closer to it every day.
    If you do not stop it now before it is too late, then it can not be avoided.
    Most likely, those who started the coup d'etat do not hope for help from outside.
    That someone is directing them from beyond the hill can be understood by their increased activity in the last week and a half. Without the promise of this "help" they would have remained a bunch of rioters in the middle of large Kiev.
    The behavior of the state authorities of Ukraine looks strange at the same time. Maybe some of them have already been paid to turn a blind eye to this mess? And thus "European integration" will roll out according to this scenario, they say we did not want it and resisted as best we could, but under threats of beatings they forced us.
  37. Stasi
    Stasi 25 January 2014 16: 32
    0
    Whatever you say, the process has begun, as one activist said. Ukraine is on the verge of civil war and collapse. God grant that there is no bloodshed. Frankly, Maidan showed that the South-East and the West together as a single country can no longer exist, this will have to be recognized by both the authorities and the opposition.
    1. Charley
      Charley 25 January 2014 19: 20
      +2
      Yes, even as they can just need tough measures, the instigators are also all known simply by Yanek and here he wants to stay clean, probably waiting for Russia to pull him out of shit
      1. Stasi
        Stasi 25 January 2014 20: 48
        +2
        You think so? Then try to put yourself in the shoes of a resident of Southeast Ukraine. He argues like this: I work, all my taxes go in the form of subsidies to these Bandera to the west, who consider me a subhuman. They make me recognize the heroes of the UPA soldiers who served the Germans and helped them to drive away the population to Germany and rob Ukraine. Why should I live with them in the same country when they don’t consider me a person? It’s better to separate and join your brothers in Russia, for them I’m mine. If we talk about Yanukovych, he will not take harsh measures, he had the opportunity to nip this whole Maidan in the bud, preventing trains and vehicles with UPA fighters from Western Ukraine from traveling to Kiev. If he begins to clean up with an iron hand, then his capital in the West will be frozen at best and no country in Europe will accept him if he decides to leave the country and flee with his Family. So, while negotiating with the opposition and accepting their conditions, he is trying to maintain this opportunity. All this explains his actions.
  38. GUSAR
    GUSAR 25 January 2014 18: 25
    0
    If Yanukovych urgently does not take action, then hell with him deserves it, and he should not be taken to Russia! In general, is it normal that the president contributes to the collapse of the country ?!
  39. Egoza
    Egoza 25 January 2014 18: 39
    0
    The Council of Veteran Organizations of Odessa Region requires the President to restore the rule of law in the country, a polemic correspondent reports. “The junta is striving for power, fed by foreign money and ready to plunge the country into a fratricidal war. For two months these bandits robbed, beat people, intimidated residents. Already now they are ready to break into your homes and destroy your families, ”the appeal of the veterans says. Therefore, Odessa veterans demand from the President to introduce a state of emergency in the regions where the activities of state bodies are paralyzed, to use force to clear the territory of the capital from militants and arrest all organizers and instigators of the riots. They also demand to deprive parliamentary immunity and arrest opposition leaders, declare foreigners involved in organizing the riots persona non grata, and liquidate foreign funds operating in Ukraine that finance the activities of the rebels. In addition, the veterans believe that it is necessary "to stop budget funding for the regions that supported the junta, which is striving for power." According to the Odessa veterans, without the use of decisive measures, "unbelted rebels cannot be reasoned and law and order in the country cannot be restored."
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136748.html
    President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych called on the rally held in the square in front of the building of the Lugansk Regional State Administration to restore order in Ukraine by all methods permitted by law, the polemic correspondent said. The protesters were holding posters with the words: “Ukraine is not Africa! Revolutions are not for us ”,“ President Yanukovych defends national interests ”,“ No revolution! ”,“ We ​​will not allow Maidan to rule the country! ”,“ Luhansk region will not allow Ukraine to split! ”“ We were always brought up in the spirit of tolerance. But it seems that we have become too tolerant. To what is happening now in Kiev, tolerance is unacceptable ", - said the vice-rector of Lugansk Medical University Valeriy Bibik. All the speakers urged to restore order in the country, even with tough methods." We appeal to the President of Ukraine as a guarantor Of the Constitution, to our elected deputies of the Verkhovna Rada, to all representatives of state power with the demand to immediately restore order in Kiev and restore the rule of law throughout the country. Show firmness and consistency in protecting the constitutional order of Ukraine. Protect the inhabitants of our state from civil confrontation by applying all the necessary legal actions and harsh measures, including the introduction of a state of emergency. We say " no ”to a coup d'état and demand an end to the illegal actions of extremists and attempts to seize power by force. We demand to bring to justice those responsible for the riots and human casualties! " - says the resolution of the meeting.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136770.html
  40. Egoza
    Egoza 25 January 2014 18: 40
    0
    Today, in the Lviv region, an executive committee of the Lviv Regional Council, as well as municipal squads in the regions have been created. This was reported by the polemic correspondent. In particular, such a decision was made at a joint extraordinary session of the Lviv Regional and City Councils. Hundreds of street picketers supported these decisions. They chanted: "Geta gang!" At first, the deputies paid a minute of silence to Roman Senik, an activist of Euromaidan who died today, and all the dead participants in the resistance. At the session, the regional and city councils recognized the People’s Rada of Ukraine as a collegial body authorized to represent the interests of the people of Ukraine. The executive committee will include the chairmen of the relevant deputy commissions, which will take over the functions of the respective departments of the RSA. It was also decided to create municipal squads on the territory of cities and regions, which should protect the constitutional rights of citizens.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136777.html
    Kiev began the second conference of the Euromaidans of Ukraine. The conference participants expect to determine their further tactics in the new conditions of power conflicts in Ukraine and to determine their participation in the negotiation process with the authorities. The Kapranov brothers opened the conference. "We need to determine the individual tactics of struggle that can be applied in this situation, at this phase. The situation is developing in a force field. Another very painful issue is public representation in negotiations to resolve the conflict. Because we saw that negotiations between politicians remain ineffectual for us, and the process is secret, "said the Kapranov brothers, opening the conference.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136758.html
  41. Egoza
    Egoza 25 January 2014 18: 44
    0
    Activists vacated the building of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry in Kiev. Currently, the activists have vacated almost all of the department's premises and went out into the street. It is also reported that negotiations are now underway between the leader of the Spilna Right social movement Alexander Danilyuk, who led the seizure of the ministry, and Energy Minister Eduard Stavitsky. Let us remind you that today at about 11:00 the building of the department was seized by the activists of "Spilnaya Sprava".
    The Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine Eduard Stavitsky does not see any prospects in communicating with the leaders of the opposition parties after the signals about the seizure of Rivne NPP by extremists and pressure on the employees of the nuclear power plant. “Not contacted. I do not consider it necessary, ”Stavitsky said. He noted that opposition leaders have absolutely no control over the situation taking place on the streets of Kiev today.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136722.html
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    Note! Already beginning to appear small Fuhrer, who act with their own forces and absolutely do not obey the "leaders of the opposition"
  42. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 25 January 2014 19: 44
    +2
    )))))))) This Ukraine would fall apart faster!
  43. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 25 January 2014 20: 04
    +6
    In general, to be honest, I do not see anything wrong with the collapse of Ukraine, and especially for Russia, it is high time for us to take our own, Eastern Ukraine should become Russian again, and let the muddy Western Ukraine do what it wants, Europe needs a new settling tank, even One devil Ukraine will never be the same as it used to be an ordinary "banana republic", and now even more so, Yanukovych is too weak, he is not Assad, soon Yanukovych will be swept away and chaos will reign in the country like in Libya, then it is necessary will annex Eastern Ukraine, if only out of pity, since the entire industrial base is there, and are we really taking someone else's? We are returning ours.
  44. Des10
    Des10 25 January 2014 20: 48
    +1
    Of course, Yanukovych pissed off the situation and is trying to taxi. And CSS - where is it, not it. If the Security Council allowed this, it is either stupid or purposefully betrayed power.
    Here is the power test for the independence and maturity of the state.
    But everyone is talking about a conflict of oligarchs.
    And on the Maidan - in the afternoon ordinary people ...
    1. vkrav
      vkrav 25 January 2014 22: 09
      +2
      Quote: Des10
      And CSS - where is it, not it

      Not quite so ... One of the former heads of the SBU in an interview compared the SBU with Cheburashka - "We have big eyes, big ears and short hands" (c) No one needs such a structure with independence, but it is impossible without it either-- an attribute of the state after all.
  45. demotivator
    demotivator 25 January 2014 21: 00
    +2
    Thus, Yanukovych simply has no fulcrum in the West,

    Is it only in the West that he has no fulcrum? Or in the east of Ukraine Yanukovych complete openwork with popular support? If the people of the eastern regions oppose European integration and do not support the Madanders, this does not mean at all that they support Yanukovych himself. Why is Ukraine so not in love with Yanukovych? Why exactly on it, like on none of its predecessors, the rays of popular hatred crossed? There are many reasons. For a government style full of contempt for people. For raiding: Yanukovych, under Yanukovych and the people of Yanukovych too many and too many were taken away. Stupidly taken away, squeezed, grabbed. On such a scale, Ukraine did not know this. Yes, there were the 90s, but everyone, from moderately rich to the poorest, was already accustomed to the idea that the big redistribution was over. And here - on you.
    For requisitions. Over the past two years, an avalanche of new fines, taxes and other forms of weaning has hit the Ukrainians. And this is with a constant increase in prices and chronic wage arrears.
    For tightening the nuts.
    For repeated betrayals: the southeast, maybe against the Maidan, but he is not for Yanukovych. And this is the first time that the prophecies about the collapse of Ukraine are real.
    But most importantly, Ukrainians are tired of everyday lawlessness.
    Today, when people are protesting not only in the west and in the center of the country, but also in the southeast, in Nikolaev, one recalls the case when in the same Nikolaev majors raped and burnt alive a girl from a poor family Oksana Makar. Only mass protests forced the authorities to plant criminals. In the same place, in the Nikolaev area, in the village of Vradievka, people stormed the regional police department, where maniacs in uniform were barricaded. They raped and killed the girls on the streets of the village with a hammer, just like that, out of boredom. And they were bored because they could afford everything - because they were covered by the regional police department and the prosecutor's office, where they had to monthly take the money that had been knocked out of the villagers under any pretext. They had a plan to collect tribute. And there are many such examples of lawlessness of officials and lack of rights of the people. So where does this support come from?
  46. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 25 January 2014 22: 11
    +1
    ) Yanek hid the money, you’ve found hell) he threw Europe, the road is closed to him. He has nothing to lose — he’s not going to be the second time in Ukraine.) Yes, even Ukraine is not in its present state. Putin, a young man, bought it with giblets.
  47. samoletil18
    samoletil18 25 January 2014 22: 34
    +1
    Dovyuvalsya. Now, does not know what to do. You can not let criminals into power. And a call for Russia: grabbers and corrupt officials in power will be left without support at a difficult moment
  48. 120352
    120352 25 January 2014 22: 40
    +1
    A few minutes ago on TV in some program it was reported that Yuda-Yanukovych had kicked out Azarov and appointed Yatsenyuk (you see a strong specialist, stronger than Azarov!) And a freak with broken brains, Klitschko, some kind of "Vice" in his place.
    It seems to me, gentlemen, that tomorrow Yanukovych from Ukraine will be blown away with suitcases of dollars and his family somewhere in Papuania (decent countries will not accept him, otherwise they will lose their prestige). And, in short, he will send both his homeland and fellow citizens ... Such a patriotic president.
    And these will bring Ukraine to complete collapse. Klitschko will immediately call a team of helpers from abroad, and those will be engaged in its final looting. By the way, nobody invited Ukraine to the EU. Only associate member. And such members in the EU - the whole organism.
  49. mihasik
    mihasik 25 January 2014 22: 57
    +2
    I cannot understand one thing. Why can't they block these "Maidowns"? Cut off the supply of all kinds of supplies, water, turn off the heating and light. Do not let anyone into the Maidan and, most importantly, do not let anyone out! Winter will do everything by itself.
  50. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 25 January 2014 23: 16
    +2
    Maidan, husks and what happens there is no longer significant.
    According to data from the last day, more serious events have occurred.
    The buildings of local administrations are seized in the western regions of Ukraine, this is the second building of the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine, there is active propaganda on the part of the so-called "opposition" to overthrow the government and calls for armed confrontation among the population of the western regions of Ukraine are three.
    According to the first sign, we can say that the main forces of the extremists were not on the Maidan and they were waiting for the right signal to begin to act.
    By the second criterion, you can see that they are taking the lead in seizing the building of the Ministry of Energy trying to take control of the instrument that can dictate their will to all interested parties in the Ukrainian issue (threatening to block gas transit to Europe, or create the danger of seizing nuclear power plants and other facilities energy in Ukraine, with all the ensuing consequences), in fact this is international terrorism in its purest form.
    According to the third criterion, it is clear that the extremist forces are trying to conquer territory to continue their activities, and given that there are probably military depots with weapons and military equipment in these territories, as well as the fact that there may be people among the military whose number and positions are unknown, the world receives a second Transnistria only on a larger scale and with great sacrifices.
    The planning of such serious operations is beyond the reach of a handful of rebels, be it at least Natsiks and any civil youth movement (in which mostly jerks from 14 to 20 hang out, who simply do not have enough brains and will to do such things) whose destiny is to serve only cannon fodder on the barricades, which we observe. Well-trained
    professionals who have knowledge and experience in similar matters. They prepare for such matters in Langley, Fort Bragg, Intelligence Service, CAC and other similar offices.
    So everything is still ahead. God bless Ukraine.
    1. Mike_v
      Mike_v 27 January 2014 00: 10
      +1
      Unfortunately, you are right, the genie of anarchy is out of the bottle. It will be difficult to drive it back. A crowd that has tasted the virus of impunity and permissiveness is a terrible "thing". Three puppets in Kiev do not decide anything, but the puppeteers do not care about everything - everything is quiet and calm at home. I can add that the state was headed by "a sheep in a wolf's skin."