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Kiev - the fourth day the capital glows: opinions

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In Ukraine, with the November 21, protests continue, provoked by the government’s refusal to sign an association agreement with the European Union, the most massive rally is continuously held in the capital. On January 19, the protest action turned into a hot phase, after another popular assembly on the Maidan, protests began to clash with the police.

Brief summary News days from the Ukrainian fronts: In Kiev, on the Grushevsky street, where the riots take place, the house burns: in the building at ul. Grushevskogo 4 is a number of research institutions, in particular - the Institute of the Ukrainian language, the Institute of Oriental Studies. A.Yu. Krymsky, as well as several publishers and magazines, “The United States delivered an ultimatum to Akhmetov and Klyuev: they demand a rebellion against Yanukovych”, “Pentagon: two American ships will be in the Black Sea during the Olympics”, “The USA accused Russia of concealing information about threats in Sochi "," Islamists threaten to organize terrorist attacks in Sochi "," Countdown to the start of the Apocalypse "," "Unknown snipers" from the USA "earned" in Kiev! The golden eagle is attacking! ”,“ Kiev in the darkness: Ukraine in the jaws of Eurointegration! ”,“ Who approves the bloodshed in Kiev in Russia ”, the People’s Council of Ukraine with the participation of opposition people's deputies was created in Kiev.

“We no longer demand anything, because in two months of peaceful protest, the authorities have not heard any of our demands. Only the new people's power will be able to stop the bloodshed and save Ukraine from the inevitable split. ” Ukrainian oppositionists distributed a manifesto in which they called the head of state Viktor Yanukovych “deposed”, and the leader of the UDAR party, Vitaly Klitschko, the interim president of the country.
Experts of the IA REX continue to comment on the events in Kiev and Ukraine.

Lev Vershinin, political scientist and historian, candidate historical Sciences:

The National Council of Ukraine was established in Kiev ... This is called “dual power”. This means that the question of the personal responsibility of the "leaders of the opposition" for everything accomplished at the subsequent meeting is not distant. And therefore, how else in the morning they tried to delay the decision, saying that the authorities "went to concessions," did not stay the option. Or they her in a registry office, or it them to the prosecutor. And the procurator does not want so much that even a rabbit is ready for "kul in the forehead." They, however, still put conditions, giving the president "24 hours" on the execution of the "five points", meaning, in fact, a complete surrender (such a crib of Dom and Kholom, which Krolik can not change,), but probably also themselves, but probably also themselves cannot change), but probably they themselves cannot change it, but probably they themselves cannot change it), but probably they themselves cannot change it) they believe that Viktor Fedorovich will lay a noose around his neck with his own hands, and after today's dead bodies - in the fullest sense of the word.

This means that now, hiding the sheet "appointees deputies" can only cut down the forest. Ibo entire list of crimes written in the article 109 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine is available. Therefore, they declared themselves to be "the attorney of power, the name of a people fighting pro-Russian tyranny," and there is no doubt that, if not today, then local authorities of such cities, as well as the patterns, and the world, as well as in the world, as well as in the world, as well as in the world, and the world is up to the world, it is up to the world, which is up to the world, and then it is up to the world, and the world is up to the world, and the world is up to the world, and the world is up to the world, and then the world is up to "The only lawyer in the world" to fight, too (to hell with not with the oath, the “citizen” of the oath abolishes) they will support not the kiev authorities, but their brothers, brothers and son.

Now, even if suddenly by some miracle (this will not happen, but we assume) Viktor Fedorovich still offers the comromiss, the fish does not swim backwards. The threshold is passed. It was not the groups of ultrasound that had collapsed, but the wide popular masses of Galicia, this is Lodomiria, tired of waiting for the eventual outcome in Kiev, and anyone who tries to give a back way will be disarmed. And by this, leaders are forced to flee by clinging to the bottom, pretending that they still head something, but they are not yet thrown away, because they are valuable, as "representatives of Europe and the United States" - for the rest of us.

Odnako, - to the word of saying, - and Victor Fedorovich now already lost the option of a rear road, like, handing over everything and everyone in exchange for the personal safety and security of the Family. Step by step, he was transformed (and now the metamorphosis was completed) from the guarantor of the constitution and stability to the guarantor of security for those whom the victory of the "opposition" is mortally dangerous, but these are strong and decisive people. They had been looking for "backstage options" to get out of the crisis, but now, when the compromise is unreasonable, they will go before the end.

In such a situation, more than the logical is the appeal of the journalist of the UE Sergey Leshchenko to the “international community” in the future, no less, no less, like the “peacemakers to Ukraine”, and, with all the desire, there is no potential for the goodness of Ukrainians, and, with all the desire, there is no potential for the whole of Ukraine in the Ukraine, and, with all the desire, there is no potential for the whole of Ukraine in the Ukraine, and, with all the desire, there is nothing inimical in terms of Ukraine’s society, and, with all the desire, there is nothing inimitable in Ukraine, and there’s hysterical frightened orphan journalism. “I’m too lazy to rattle melodies, and the Kiev citizens are confirmed,” this is a kid one of the “narrow group” of the so-called. "Ukrainian Truth", not sitting on the present "Grant from Gosdep", but directly working as a head of Mr. Kerry vedomstvo. In such a situation, we have to believe information respected by the coordinator, and in the near future, a meeting with the president of the country will be held in the country. according to the sample of the European police ". That is, I always believe him, his insights (considering the connections) are good, but it is concretely, forgive me, Yaroslav, - seemed fantastic. And now it does not seem, therefore, that in the current situation it was necessary to take Kiev under control of life. So, if we slow down, the UkrSA brigades will come from the west - and then Kiev will turn into Sarajevo. And even in that (extremely, in my opinion, it is unlikely), if there are any military forces in the sleeve of the “opposiozionenerov” (hardly, very unlikely, if it were, they would have been born for a long time) - Sarajevo, - because the southern and eastern regions also have revolvers.

In such a situation, the priority task of the legal authorities is to maximally relieve the combatants and quickly (before the expiration of the ultimatum term) isolation of the self-protesters, already, unconditionally, forming a "parallel government". But, of course, taking into account what the warriors are now "fighting" for the sake of extracting military tasks from this task, and "the trinity" is being protected by the "best forces" - in this case, they are not entered in the business. In this connection, the arrest can turn into a warping operation, piercing the patient with contraction of the volume of the body, Kiev will be handed over to the hands of the opposition, that is, already “second power”, - and the distance from control will be the same for the rest of the hospital; a day to stay) is not so great. In such a situation, at the end, the statement of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, no matter how hard it would be after some months ago, will become morally obsolete, and the President of Russia, undoubtedly, who agrees with the price of wages, can only decide what to do with wisdom ..., it remains unclear, agreeing to the price of wages, it remains only to decide what to do with w ith my own meetings, it is only a matter of opinion . Bye all And do not say that I have not shouted about it for two months and a half.

Anatoly Shary, journalist:

By shooting at a journalist. I do not believe that wounded journalists are worth the power, that there is an instruction to shoot them intentionally. In this case, there are such cases, and stupid to say that they are not. In my opinion, it has a place to be purely Slavic "but why not, if no one knows what I shot?" In a wicked way, "I am to you, padla, now I am barely able to say nothing, and I will never know." The morons and the barracks are enough from both sides. Journalists need to remember this. Be careful, this is a war.

Revolution has already changed the life of Kiev. O tires and cancer ... Read everything carefully. This is a simple info. Concerning those who in Kiev, but the rest should be of interest too. And in reading, say, "Thank you very much!" by whom it is settled. Black smoke over Kiev from the burnt covers - not just smoke, but smoke of freedom. And yet - this smoke will uniquely make the future not one hundred of the people of Kiev and their children on the very "other". Kyivites, konechno, does not know that is in the sostav Apia obychnoy pokryshki vhodit number of interesting substances: 1- (3-methylphenyl) -etanon, azulene, benzotiazol, 2-metilbenzotiazol, N- (2,2-dimetilpropil) -N-metilbenzamin, bottled hydroxytoluene, diethyl phthalate (possesses strong cumulative properties), 2- (methylthio) benzothiazol, diphenylamine (hazard class 3), phenanthrene (hazard class 2).

During the burning of the cover, there are also great chemical compounds: pyrene (1), dangerous to the skin, as well as anthracenes (fragrant) , 2-methylnaphthalene, biphenyl, acenaphthylene (carcinogen), fluorene (op), acenaphthene (carcinogen), chrysene (carcinogen), benz [a] pyrene (special carcinogen), dibenzo [a, h] anthrac ant (special carcinogen), dibenzo [a, h] anthrac anthracros (specialty carcinogen), dibenzo [a, h] anthracogen, especially benign carcinogen, dibenzo [a] .

The International Cancer Research Agency of the Rubber and Tire Industry of the Enterprise is included in the list of cancer-producing and dangerous people. What is most interesting is that tires, even when they are worn, that is, during operation, emit into the atmosphere a whole bunch of carcinogens and aerosols, causing obstruction. Twenty years ago, it was believed that these particles emitted due to friction of tires on asphalt are large and can not cause harm to human health. But doctors from the United States paid attention to the increased sensitivity to environmental concerns of residents of houses located near highways in cities. Research has shown that cancer is not only due to its proximity to exhaust gases containing hazardous substances, but also to many because of the inhalation of particles released into the atmosphere when the tires wear! People who inhale this mixture, as a burden to the unpleasant smell, bronchial asthma, concomitant diseases of various etiology and pathogenesis, and contact with the mucous membrane of the rim and the rifle mucosa and respiratory tract infections.

Worn by the bus The risk of cancer in workers who work on the production of tires, statistically exceeds the risk of obsolescence from a nearby resident of the modern city 4 times. But the problems arise not only from breathing, but also from their pathogeness. Due to the fact that in the dust of the dust contains cancer in the form of N-nitrozaminov, the genetic risk of cancer in women who inhale these compounds is 8 times higher than in women outside the "risk group". It has been proven that N-nitrosamines, penetrating the placental barrier, increase the development of tumors in the fetus. Others who are older than one year old are in the second place after death from accidents. Leukemia, which stands in the first place in the structure of other diseases, arises in children, mothers of whom during pregnancy had contact with chemicals used to prepare rubber mixtures or were used for processing rubber mixtures or were reprogrammed in the process of preparing rubber mixtures, or in the process of treatment of rubber mixtures or were reprocessed

The most frequent neoplastic diseases occur in the form of Williams' tumors - in children whose fathers are engaged in rubber ingenuity and brain drain - in those children whose mothers had contact with separate rubber ingredients. According to the experts (confirmed by UNICEF), the dust from the disposal of tires from the organization will not be removed. And now attention. Everything described above applies to dust emitted during tire wear. Not by incineration, which is forbidden by the most rigorous across the entire territory of the European Union and developed countries. Back in 2003, the EU decided to ban the suppression of entire tires, and from 2006 of the year, tires cut into pieces. 2 April 1999 adopted a special directive "O dumps", which introduced the strictest ban on burning them since 2003.

The smoke above the capital is not “smoke of revolution”, not “smoke of victory” and not “gloomy cloud” (as journalists have noticed). Smoke over Kiev - this is the reason for the immediate closure of kindergartens and schools, as well as the reason why the people of Kiev should not be outside. Therefore, the revolutiors at the very cause have already changed the lives of many. Those who will inevitably get sore with complications due to the fact that in the center of the city were covered with hundreds of covers, which gave the inhabitants of the capital such a blow on health, we will evaluate only a few time later.

Vladimir Kornilov, director of the Center for Eurasian Studies, political scientist, candidate of historical sciences:

Unfortunately, the chances for a peaceful and calm scenario of resolving the conflict between activists and security forces are less and less. All the parties have brought this situation to such a degree that the conflict has passed into the hot stage and it is now impossible to hold back the generation, no matter what the concessions go and power and opposition. Leaders of the appraisal are no longer able to monitor people on Independence Square in Kiev. And who can say how such an interesting structure as the Security Service of Ukraine has manifested itself these days? We see the Interior Ministry officers on a regular basis, the courts even work under the threat of warriors, the General Prosecutor’s Office awakens and investigates. And where is the SBU-to? Or is the state coup, the overthrow of the secretly elected power, the killing of people in the center of the capital - this is not their prerogative, right? By the way, koe-kto in social networks is actively interested in my address and my family. And in the back they are fighting, why am I still alive, and such glorious peaceful protesters like the warrior Nigoyan are bending! Mozhet, reply prost: why I in special forces do not stalk the hammer rolls? Just why is my family needed-to? Do not loan. After all, do not marry me want, come on! I studied the data "avtomaydana." Do you know what is the most amazing? It turns out among the vehicles participating in this promotion - VOLVO S60, owned by ... Kiev crematorium! It is interesting to me, and the crematorium in Independence participates in the hope of increasing the clientele ?!

Yuri Romanenko, Director of the Stratagem Political Analysis Center, Chief Editor of the Khvil Analytical Portal:

A delegation from Russia arrived in Ukraine yesterday. Diplomats and deputies. In the evening, Merkel and Putin talked, which determined the reaction of Germany to what was happening. After this, the rant is much changed. Russia pulled the Germans on a new pact MR. Direction supervises Surkov. Russia does not consider the option of dividing Ukraine and hoping that integrity was preserved due to PGH and slate. Therefore, the section is considered as the worst option. Russia still does not give a good tranche to Ukraine, obviously, until the situation is resolved. Putin is very much afraid of the boycott of the Olympiad. Therefore, obviously, Russians do not mobilize Yanukovych. Vorona brought on the wing that Merkel and Putin didn’t agree yesterday. This means that in the near future, Germany, as well as Austria, will demonstrate their positions in Ukraine.

Grigory Trofimchuk, political scientist, first vice president of the Center for Modeling Strategic Development:

After the execution on the Grushevsky street, the present can no longer be called “Euromaidan”. Before this situation, "Maidan" could still be called the term "Euromaidan." But after that, as participants of this "Euromaidan" manifested themselves from radical sides, the European Union itself had to be the first to appeal to these protesters, so that they would remove the word "Euro" from this name. Let them be called the Maidan, but after what happened, they can no longer discredit the EU so much.

Oleg Tsaryov, people's deputy of Ukraine of the VII convocation, deputy chairman of the Party of Regions:

I urge Russia not to pretend that the problem does not exist. Russia for twenty years is not engaged in Ukraine. During this time, Ukraine was adequately engaged in other countries. An extensive network of non-governmental organizations, pro-Western journalists and activists have a serious influence on the situation in Ukraine. It is precisely according to this, according to the command of the United States and the European Union, protests can begin. And at the same moment, if a command comes in, the protest will cease.

Miroslava Berdnik, writer and publicist:

It seems to me that Sergei Nigoyan, a soldier of the Maidan killed by unknown snipers, had long been planned for the "ritual" sacrifice of the Moscow dictatorships, which was killed by unknown snipers. On YouTube, it was released a video, which has already collected half a hundred thousand watches. In an article about unknown snipers, I wrote about the secret division of “identified murderers”, who the American reporter Seymour Hersh, who told about the “murderers in the law” at the CIA service, told reporters. Command Commandment (JSOC) .This is a special division of intelligence services that was directly subordinate to Vice-President Cheney. It is essentially about a specialized unit of the murderers. washing about the actions of the American ambassadors or the heads of the local departments of the CIA, searched for people on the lists, executed them on the spot, and then returned home. " The film about snipers-liquidators from JSOC - "Dirty wars" was unmarked on "Oscar".

Vladimir Biryuk, political scientist:

Ukrainian operatives distributed a manifesto, in which they called the head of the state Viktor Yanukovych “deplored”, and the leader of the UDAR party, Vitaly Klitschko, was the interim president of the country. Illegal seizure of power - the court - Siberia. With confiscation, of course. And also the Golden Eagle must get permission at least to fire on the limbs of those who at this particular moment shoots, throws, sets fire. And it is possible to put water on both squares and turn everything into a skating rink. And infrasound processing. But above all - confiscation.

Andrei Vajra, political scientist:

I thought here, but do not the Kievans go to form the detachments of the self-defense and open the border in the second? Interestingly, only in Kiev, you can collect the "bayonet" for borba with Natsik?
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  1. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 24 January 2014 08: 29
    +21
    It remains to be hoped that there will not be too much blood.
    So far, everything is going to blood.
    I apologize for the pessimism.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 24 January 2014 08: 43
      +30
      There is nothing to apologize for. If Yanukovych does not declare a state of emergency in the country or at least in Kiev and the western regions in the next couple of days with the introduction of a curfew and other delights, he will not take into custody the participants of all alternative government bodies, led by "thinking for three" for an attempted coup, he has every chance of losing the country.
      In 2008, Globa predicted that in 2014 Ukraine would cease to exist as a single state and a civil war would begin. Then it was funny, but now you begin to doubt - suddenly he was right.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 09: 01
        +9
        Quote: Arhj
        he has every chance of losing the country.

        Ukrainian oppositionists circulated a manifesto, in which they called the head of state Viktor Yanukovych "deposed", and the leader of the UDAR party, Vitali Klitschko, the interim president of the country.
        so they don’t put anything into it. Everyone on the Maidan understood that there would be no answers and consequences, even for the wildest crimes. Why not, why not send the president in three letters in plain text. Everything was expected and predicted.
        One Ukrainian only yesterday stood up for Azarov, supporting his words that everything is under control in Ukraine. If this is control, then I want to ask what is chaos?
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 24 January 2014 09: 28
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If this is control, then I want to ask what is chaos?


          Chaos will happen when the protest is not so compactly localized within a few blocks, then there will be a real brawl !!! Everything goes to this, by the way. Captures of buildings in other cities are already beginning, albeit not so actively, yet the bravest have left for the capital.
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 24 January 2014 13: 26
            +10
            Remember the mysterious tactic.
            When we retreat, we are moving forward.


            "... Endurance and the ability to" retreat to attack "is the most difficult and psychologically most difficult part of the art of war. Only Russians can master it perfectly. But from the outside it often seems to be a manifestation of weakness and almost defeat. Moreover, the participants of the" passive battle "themselves, their own soldiers often give in to doubt and lose faith in their own strength.There is a huge risk that requires the will of the commander-in-chief and the finest military art to maintain the faith of their children until the very last moment.Looking at today's Kiev, it is somehow especially realistic to imagine how two centuries ago they murmured at the retreating Kutuzov. He handed over city after city, trudged back with carts, prayed in monasteries - and around him in the army everyone was seething, demanded, desperate. "Is it time? - No, let's be patient, guys ... "And again weaving back." Let's hit right now, Mikhailo Illarionovich! - Let's wait a little ... "And again uncertainty and expectations ..."

            Whole article: http://russkiy-malchik.livejournal.com/409946.html

            On my own I’ll add: To start hard to disperse the maydauns now, to declare a state of emergency means to lose, to plunge the country into a civil war, to terrorist attacks, pogroms, reprisals. All this will be blamed on pro-Russian authorities in Ukraine. It takes 15 minutes to disperse the Maidan, and 1 day to clear the country. But this should happen strictly at the right time. And you can bring the situation to the point that the maydaunas will devour themselves.

            1. War Cat
              War Cat 24 January 2014 17: 28
              +4
              Yes, you are absolutely right. Ukraine's problem is that the United States has managed to "cross" the liberal pro-Western "intelligentsia" with the openly nazinalist "Galicia" and throw them into a united front.
              And no matter how cruel it sounds, the authorities simply need to give the militants of the nationalist "Golitsia" the opportunity to "seize" Kiev and arrange a "revolutionary massacre" there.
              Only after that will the “rose-colored glasses” of the liberal pro-Western “intelligentsia” fall off and it will itself pray to the authorities for salvation. Then Yanukovych will return to Kiev as a "liberator".
              1. Egoza
                24 January 2014 17: 39
                +3
                Quote: War Cat
                Only after that will the “rose-colored glasses” of the liberal pro-Western “intelligentsia” fall off and it will itself pray to the authorities for salvation. That's when Yanukovych will return to Kiev as a "liberator"

                Our "intelligentsia" with might and main stood for Yushchenko and the Orange Maidan! They resigned themselves, gritting their teeth, when Yanukovych became president, but they will NEVER ask him for anything. He is a man "not from their intellectual circle"! "Inferior grade!"
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 18: 46
                  +4
                  Quote: Egoza
                  Our "intelligentsia" with might and main stood for Yushchenko and the Orange Maidan! They resigned themselves, gritting their teeth when Yanukovych became president, but they will NEVER ask him for anything

                  Elena!
                  As they say in Odessa: "Beat in the face, not in the passport". laughing
                  One "tiligent" was marked by the Nazis with a fire extinguisher ...
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 24 January 2014 21: 20
                    +2
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    As they say in Odessa: "They beat on the face, not on the passport."

                    Ilyich! With all due respect to you - you're wrong !!! In 1980 in USU (you will find if Che ...) celebrated 600 years of the Battle of Kulikovo ... repeat By the method of distribution of cages to all narrow-eyed. They knocked down: Kyrgyz, Kazakhs, Mongols, Buryats and several other nationalities whose names I don’t remember over the past years ... They asked me for the passport, they calculated the Mongols ... They overtook almost everyone! Nearly... repeat
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 21: 29
                      +5
                      Quote: retired
                      Ilyich! With all due respect to you - you're wrong !!!

                      Yuri!
                      I witnessed how in the summer in Odessa, 1984 (or maybe 1985?), Local "Zhigans" fought with the Syrians, cadets of the Air Defense School. Malanets fell under the "batch", and unfortunately entered the restaurant of the "Black Sea" hotel. When he realized that he had a chance to get injured (or even to the churchyard), he simply shouted "I'm a Jew! Would you like to show your passport !?" The bandits believed - the Syrians with such an "accent" could not squeal ...
                      The whole restaurant - visitors and service staff "pissed with boiling water" ... wassat
                      1. densh
                        densh 24 January 2014 23: 20
                        +2
                        Mdaa! You want to live, not so much
                      2. pensioner
                        pensioner 25 January 2014 16: 25
                        0
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        "I'm a Jew! Want to show me your passport !?"

                        So I’m talking about the same thing ... Even then, the Jews didn’t bother us ... But shazzz ... Ready! angry I can... repeat
              2. zzz
                zzz 24 January 2014 21: 54
                +3
                Declare Kharkov the capital and from there lead the suppression of the rebellion! History knows such examples ....
        2. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 24 January 2014 13: 27
          +9
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If this is control, then I want to ask what is chaos?


          Chaos bro is Libya or Syria, and there are still only two staged corpses.
          1. Anper
            Anper 24 January 2014 13: 47
            +6
            Yes, and with the seizure of buildings, it seems, did not grow together. The buildings were seized, they are stuck there, they shit, but they don’t know what to do next. , according to their tradition, because of the bushes they like to act like "I am cunning, don't let the bad fight".
            In Soviet times, there was a familiar nuclear engineer from the Urals, worked at the Kuznetsov NPP, worked on working out emergency situations with wards in the gym - a full copy of the main hall of the NPP. coping a familiar situation perfectly, desperately dumb in a freelance. All without exception. Probably, iodine deficiency affects.
            1. sds555
              sds555 24 January 2014 14: 27
              +12
              And they didn’t get tired of jumping like this ?!
              1. sds555
                sds555 24 January 2014 15: 59
                +13
                Acceleration of a rally of solidarity with protesting Ukrainians in Moscow at 1:20 ALREADY THESE DUREMARAS REACHED MOSCOW
                1. HollyGremlin
                  HollyGremlin 24 January 2014 16: 54
                  +9
                  It is a pity there are no columns, I don’t know what they are broadcasting, but they were packaged in high quality. So they need it. It used to be against the fact that unauthorized protests were banned, now it’s for: you have to sacrifice something so that such scum does not infect the minds.
                2. 31231
                  31231 24 January 2014 17: 39
                  +4
                  If these stupid people bawled under my window, I would have doused them with water. They found, shit, time for their throat.
                3. Scoun
                  Scoun 24 January 2014 18: 40
                  +3
                  Quote: sds555
                  ALREADY THESE DUREMARAS REACHED MOSCOW

                  In the faces, and sing like a wake.
                  Do not they disgust themselves?
                  Maybe then this video will be watched on the Internet ... maybe even shy? pah .. and the Muscovite yelled like a woman from Femen .. in an iridescent voice.
                4. vlum
                  vlum 24 January 2014 19: 20
                  +1
                  Maidanut is not a stamp on registration in a passport
                5. abdrah
                  abdrah 24 January 2014 20: 15
                  +1
                  But what prevents the Slav brothers from taking the Moscow-Kuev train and supporting the local revolution by personal presence? In the place of the Moscow authorities, I would have done so (at the expense of the demonstrators, of course).
          2. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... 24 January 2014 14: 54
            +2
            two staged corpses ...good
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 24 January 2014 23: 06
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Ukrainian oppositionists circulated a manifesto, in which they called the head of state Viktor Yanukovych "deposed", and the leader of the UDAR party, Vitali Klitschko, the interim president of the country.

          Only those like him can appoint a "disabled person" as the interim president of Ukraine!
          God give them some brains!
          I understand that you can’t see the corner, but at least you need to understand what’s going on .......
      2. Egoza
        24 January 2014 09: 25
        +3
        Quote: Arhj
        If Yanukovych does not declare a state of emergency in the country or at least in Kiev and the western regions in the next couple of days with the introduction of a curfew and other delights, he will not take into custody the participants of all alternative government bodies, led by "thinking for three" for an attempted coup, he has every chance of losing the country.

        Will not announce. An urgent gathering of BP is scheduled for Tuesday and laws will be re-voted. Although the leaders of the Oppa quickly announced that they would be canceled.
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 24 January 2014 16: 58
          +1
          Quote: Egoza
          An urgent gathering of BP is scheduled for Tuesday and laws will be re-voted.

          Yanukovych has already backtracked once, when the Opps achieved a re-vote and defeated Yushchenko. He is weak, he will not survive
      3. Kapitan Oleg
        Kapitan Oleg 24 January 2014 10: 02
        +1
        Globa predicted a lot of things. On the other hand, political scientists and other great minds annoy. Having wrinkled their foreheads, thoughtfully rolling their eyes, they broadcast various scenarios, opinions, forecasts ... But now the question arises, and these political scientists need a damn thing, if there is no sense from them at all.
        1. Egoza
          24 January 2014 10: 08
          +7
          Quote: Kapitan Oleg
          and these political scientists are needed for hell, if there’s no sense at all from them.

          Don't tell. Real political scientists, V. Kornilov, for example, very clearly predict the consequences of one or another possible government action. Only now they try not to hear them. And then they make a helpless gesture "We didn't want to" And smart people should be listened to and their opinions taken into account, even if you don't like them.
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      5. Cherdak
        Cherdak 24 January 2014 12: 03
        +4
        Quote: Arhj
        Then it was funny



        Lucky Russia to the Olympics, no words. Now Georgians, now Ukrainians.
        Was there no other time to find?
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 24 January 2014 18: 53
          +3
          Quote: Cherdak
          Lucky Russia to the Olympics, no words. Now Georgians, now Ukrainians.

          Plus, Azerbaijanis with Armenians aggravate relations ..
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 19: 33
            +6
            Quote: Scoun
            Quote: Cherdak
            Lucky Russia to the Olympics, no words. Now Georgians, now Ukrainians.

            Plus, Azerbaijanis with Armenians aggravate relations ..

            And all this is happening not so far from Sochi ...
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 25 January 2014 22: 14
          0
          Quote: Cherdak
          Lucky Russia to the Olympics, no words. Now Georgians, now Ukrainians

          I understand more and more that similar events have already happened. And a similar scenario cannot be ruled out. A coup for the Olympics could well be seen as a goal!
          Although, if Yanukovych had written out the Grozny OMON for 3 days, the revolution ended without even starting. He has nowhere to go especially, or he’s either gone or gone!
      6. Orel
        Orel 24 January 2014 12: 18
        +21
        THERE ARE ANOTHER ORDERED PEOPLE THERE !!!

        KIEVLIANS HELP "BERKUT"

        “We wrote off on Facebook, collected money and bought warm insoles, mittens, socks, hats, cigarettes. Children also need mini-extinguishers, frostbite ointment. That is, the most basic things are required! ”, Said journalist Galina Lebedinskaya, a member of the initiative group. - We are very worried about the Golden Eagle fighters, who these days became the only defender of the capital. But the main thing is not even our purchases. Children need moral support first of all. Practically from all TV channels words sound that the special forces are almost an enemy of their own people. But it’s no secret that many of them are still threatened with reprisal. On the pages of social networks there are frank calls to “wet” the “Golden Eagle” and crack down on members of their families. ” Activists said that the initiative to help Berkut found support in the Troeschinsky market, where warm clothes were bought: “Having learned that we are taking gloves and socks not for maidan, but for Berkut we immediately reduced the price. Like, if the rioters come from the Maidan to the market, there will be hope only for special forces. "
      7. Polovec
        Polovec 24 January 2014 12: 36
        +17
        The indecisive and slurred position of Yanukovych is to blame for everything. His fidgeting on two chairs causes only charity. I can’t imagine either Putin or Lukashenko in this role. Make a decision already with whom you are and act!
        And the position regarding the Berkut and the police is also disgusting. People do their duty risking their lives and health, and the power is gaining the audacity to CONDEMN THEIR ACTIONS!
        I wholeheartedly sympathize with the fighters and officers who have such commanders! When there is a real opportunity to be betrayed by your leadership, which at any moment can give you to pieces for the sake of your political or selfish interests you just need to be a hero to continue to fulfill your duty!
        We are proud of you guys1
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    2. domokl
      domokl 24 January 2014 08: 48
      +17
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      So far, everything is going to blood.

      It’s not coming, but it’s come ... Alas, it’s not hiding anymore. An attempt has taken place (or according to the maydanut’s real call) of a state coup. And all the talks about a peaceful solution have passed. But time has been lost and there will be a lot of blood ... Now on both sides the slogan is Victory or death ...
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 24 January 2014 09: 01
        +4
        The homeland of my ancestors ... After all, I talked with a friend who often travels to Ukraine, says the mess is only in Kiev.
        1. Egoza
          24 January 2014 09: 29
          +5
          Quote: Teacher Onizuka
          mess only in Kiev.

          Unfortunately no!
          Under the walls of the administrations captured in Rivne and Lviv barricades were erected
          Thus, residents want to protect themselves from possible forceful dispersal of people from under the walls of the RSA.
          For the seizure of the building of the Regional State Administration, Ternopil activists face six years in prison (But they captured)
          At the same time, the prosecutor of the Ternopil region Gennady Movchan voiced a demand not to violate laws and to maintain proper public order.
          "Such illegal actions entail criminal liability established by law, and whoever commits them will be liable under the law. The actions of all participants in these events will be given a legal assessment," Movchan said.
          He also called on people not to succumb to "political provocations and calls by extremists to commit illegal actions, in particular, the seizure of state institutions."
          The Prosecutor of Ternopil also warned those who call citizens to unlawful actions: "No matter what positions someone holds, the Criminal Code applies to everyone equally."
          XXXX
          In Cherkassy, ​​after the assault of the Regional State Administration, the police detained 16 people. Among them there is one woman.
          Meanwhile, the Cherkasy Resistance Committee to the dictatorship announced a citywide protest tomorrow against bullying of detainees. The promotion will begin in 10.00. City Council deputy Nikolai Bulatetsky on his Facebook page called on lawyers, human rights activists and parents of the detained youth to come to the Cherkasy Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          We will remind, on Thursday evening the participants in the protest rally stormed the building of the regional state administration. There were clashes with the police. At the same time, the girl was wounded: a flowerpot from the number of those that the police threw fell into her head.
          Recall that on the evening of January 23, about 20 thousand residents of the city came under the building of the regional state administration, breaking down the doors to the state institution. The building of the state institution was guarded by ten policemen, who, seeing the crowd of protesters, locked themselves inside. 10 soldiers of the "Griffin" unit arrived to help the police. A police colonel was with them - they were surrounded, their clothes were torn, their shoulder straps were ripped off. The police barricaded themselves inside. Policemen were taken out of the building, who became ill. The security forces used stun grenades and hosed water on the protesters. "At 20:10, a criminal in uniform threw a heavy flowerpot from a window on the third floor. It fell on the head of one of the protesters. An ambulance took the girl in serious condition,"
          http://www.segodnya.ua/ukraine/posle-shturma-oga-v-cherkassah-zaderzhany-16-chel
          ovek-490969.html
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 24 January 2014 09: 38
            +5
            And dawns in Kiev ...
            And meanwhile, the possessed ones dragged so much rubble in a day that it would have been enough for the foundation of a rather big house and piled up a bunch ... There is not what they thought, but a pile of garbage. Yesterday there were almost none ... And the cops seemed to be smaller. They stand in one line, in the evening they stood in two.

            Well, purely ants ... That would be them in the mines on the Donbass ... At once, all coal-bearing veins will be developed.

            webcam.guru.ua/city/kiev/2/
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 24 January 2014 13: 27
              +5
              Quote: Ptah
              Well, purely ants ... That would be them in the mines on the Donbass ... At once, all coal-bearing veins will be developed.

              Such "ants", getting into the working or tunneling face for the most part, flutter:"Nate your pick, and show the dirk to the mountain ..."
              Believe i know wink laughing
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 24 January 2014 15: 17
                +3
                Then where are they ... They toil from idleness ... "Create" ts.
                Now I look, like the rubber stopped firing, apparently burned. They walk from corner to corner slowly, and yesterday they ran like a scumbag. Gifted. Well, still, they built a cordon, finished it in the evening.
                And the frost doesn’t take them ... Wooh, I hear ..., even yelling ....
                1. Corsair
                  Corsair 24 January 2014 15: 29
                  +4
                  Quote: Ptah
                  And the frost doesn’t take them ... Wooh, I hear ..., even yelling ....

                  Heating places near the bandyukov are equipped in a number of buildings they seized, as well as in the Globus shopping and entertainment center located under the Maidan, where the rent of boutiques is obscenely expensive ...

                  And here the question arises, is it not worth the authorities to find and cut off funding channels? Moreover, this will make it possible to clarify WHO EXACTLY "digs" under the authority ...
            2. Anper
              Anper 24 January 2014 15: 32
              +4
              “I had the opportunity to observe annoying and hysterical nationalism. The organization had no constructive program, except for the general phrases“ vizol'naya struggle ”and“ spiritually reborn nation ”.
              Instead of the expected leadership, the organization of the OUN brought to our society a hoax, a double and a sleaze ... they came up with the initiative of mass actions that corresponded to them most of all: 1) greetings of the Germans as liberators with the installation of triumphal arches, 2) a manifest funeral tortured by the Bolsheviks, 3)pouring up "mounds of glory." The involvement of thoughtless people, especially young people, such actions ... was extraordinary "
              This was written by the nationalist and Russophobe Pankivsky in 1941 about his fellow countrymen. So, traditions have been around for decades.
          2. AVV
            AVV 24 January 2014 12: 20
            +3
            The most interesting thing is that the most decisive actions of the opposition are scheduled for the Olympics !!! As the Georgians acted in Ossetia during the Olympics in Beijing, these will be covered by games !!! If Yanukovych is not ahead of schedule, then Ukraine will not expect anything good! !!
          3. Polovec
            Polovec 24 January 2014 15: 07
            +6
            "He fell on the head of one of the protesters. The ambulance took the girl in serious condition,"

            She wouldn’t have a flowerpot on an empty pumpkin, but a belt on a thick f * ck!
            1. Egoza
              24 January 2014 15: 25
              +8
              Quote: Polovec
              "He fell on the head of one of the protesters. The ambulance took the girl in serious condition,"

              She wouldn’t have a flowerpot on an empty pumpkin, but a belt on a thick f * ck!

              "Do not stand and do not jump, do not sing, do not dance, where construction is underway or a load is suspended!" (M / f Plasticine crow)
              1. vlum
                vlum 24 January 2014 19: 31
                +1
                this cartoon should be turned on all channels instead of diapers advertising
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          5. 31231
            31231 24 January 2014 17: 47
            0
            Elena, and what do these possessed ones do not want to storm the Mezhygirya?
            1. vlum
              vlum 24 January 2014 19: 35
              +4
              And one of the venerable political scientists gave this decoding: such actions are identical to exhibitionism. If there are no spectators, then they have no desire to rave
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      3. APASUS
        APASUS 26 January 2014 14: 49
        0
        Quote: domokl
        .Now on both sides the slogan is one-Victory or death ...

        Honestly, you watch such shots and understand - this is a war!
        There is no protest there, there are no goals there and "Klitschko and K" does not mean anything, there are positional battles!
        It is unfortunate that the people do not understand that they have already set foot in the war, but it has not yet reached every street ............ battles are in the center of Kiev!
    3. Orel
      Orel 24 January 2014 08: 58
      +6
      The situation is already out of control and nothing can be stopped. If Yanukovych makes concessions, he will sit down INSTEAD OF Tymoshenko, and if the opposition makes concessions, it will lose the confidence of the crowd on the Maidan and sit next to Tymoshenko. There is either victory or death for both sides. There are no other alternatives. Yanukovych became the guarantor of the security and freedom of those who support him, and the opposition must now protect those who expressed their support, because if they are defeated, they will all go to the colony for an attempted coup. The polarization of the two warring factions is almost complete. The blank for the civil war is ready. The United States did a great job, again set up Europe and Russia so that we could solve all this. And they killed two birds with one stone: 1. The USA will tie Europe to itself even more because of the war in Ukraine, under the pretext of protecting Europe from the conflict; 2. They will try to weaken Russia, since in the event of war the Russian Federation will have to send its troops, because the border is transparent and the militants from Ukraine will trample on our South. Then the Caucasus and our whole country as a whole will shatter even more. The war does not bode well for Russia now, but we will have no choice and will have to participate. Let's hope that this forecast will remain only a forecast. There is only one hope, on January 24.01.2014, XNUMX, the "Gifts of the Magi" will be brought to Kiev. Maybe the Lord God will stop this chaos ...
      1. domokl
        domokl 24 January 2014 09: 05
        +7
        Quote: Orel
        The situation is already out of control and nothing can be stopped.

        In many respects I agree with your comment, but apart from the cited one ... It will come out when the troops are drawn into the confrontation. I can imagine what pressure the military personnel and their commanders are facing now. On both sides. I don’t think everyone can stand it. And the first a military unit that gets involved in a conflict will become a catalyst for a civil war to the fullest ...
        Now we need to physically suppress the embryos of the rebellion ... Then the doubters and adventurers will not join it ...
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 24 January 2014 09: 21
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          I can imagine the pressure that military men and their commanders are facing now. On both sides. I don’t think everyone can stand it. And the very first military unit that gets involved in the conflict will become a catalyst for a civil war to the fullest ...
          Just, a couple of seconds ago I wanted to answer Sasha Romanov and mention the army.
          Ok, I'll write here.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          so they don’t put anything into it. Everyone on the Maidan understood that there would be no answers and consequences, even for the wildest crimes. Why not, why not send the president in three letters in plain text. Everything was expected and predicted.

          It was already accurate, Sasha. Send the king, the monarchical system and everything else.
          "We will destroy the whole world of violence. To the ground and then ..."
          Andrei Vajra, political scientist:

          I thought here, but do not the Kievans go to form the detachments of the self-defense and open the border in the second? Interestingly, only in Kiev, you can collect the "bayonet" for borba with Natsik?

          Here it is. Isn't it a provocateur? The task is to involve absolutely everyone. Now the power is on the Maidan, and the power will be eliminated by the Maidan on the anti-Maidan. And what happens? Clear. Then the advantage will be for those who have weapons. The cops and the warrior. Cops, as unnecessary to defend the deposed power, will go wherever one chooses. And if delegates didn’t go to military units, they’re about to go ....
          Further it is clear ....
          AUTHORITY IN SUCH CASES DO NOT CHANGE !!! COMPROMISE COMMITTEES ARE POSSIBLE BUT WITHIN THE MANAGEMENT!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 09: 34
            +4
            Quote: Ptah
            . To the bottom and then ...

            And then they are not interested, and most of these gopniks are sure that they will live, as in Holland or Germany.
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 24 January 2014 09: 49
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And then they’re not interested, and most of these gopniks are sure

              Nah, Sanya. Alas, but no longer. What they played before the new year is abandoned for the time being, and only the opportunity to break into eujopia will appear under ANOTHER AUTHORITY. Therefore, the task is to throw this.
              Yesterday, I deliberately rummaged around dozens of forums, according to the comments under the video, and made sure that the countries were roughly divided in half into those who understand that the AUTHORITY SHOULD BE SAVED (otherwise Makhnovism) and those who are already yelling for overthrowing the AUTHORITY.
              It went to the army ...

              will live, as in Holland or Germany.

              As one song says
              "means we go there,
              then we go there ... "

              To Ukraine, in the sense ... I have to make a presentation about "Decaying West", and "Berlin - a city of contrasts" what
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 09: 59
                +3
                Quote: Ptah
                Alas, but no longer.

                Yes, if you now slow down the gopnik and ask that I give 100% so that the answer will be a bright European future. Yes, and then, when the goal justifies the means, the slogans and requirements can be changed daily, for a stupid cattle it will work.
                As for the army, and how much is left of it. The main thing is that the gopniks would not attack the warehouses with weapons, or even looking at the fact that Berkut’s hands are shackled, some can pull there too. Nobody fires one order Looking at how once the authorities betrayed their defenders for the dispersal of Maidan, nobody will give such an order.
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 24 January 2014 10: 09
                  +4
                  Gopnik have already done their job. Now they will be cannon fodder and annoying for their parents. And after all, they have PARENTS, and not from the moon, they yopnulis.
                  And if someone's dad finds out that his "premature to full brain formation", but so dearly beloved Gavroche, was spanked on the barricades, he will be extremely unhappy, first of all, with those who saved the world from the failed Lomonosov or Shevchenko (in his opinion) ...
                  Here is one movie. Look, at first a middle-aged woman comes out on the left (after all, someone’s mother or grandmother), and then another aunt at the pillar gives the cobblestones to the humpers. And they are 100000% dissatisfied with the authorities.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 11: 08
                    +4
                    Quote: Ptah
                    Look, at first a middle-aged woman comes out on the left (after all, someone’s mother or grandmother), and then another aunt at the pillar gives the cobblestones to the humpers. And they are 100000% dissatisfied with the authorities.

                    I looked at 93, when in Moscow it was like that, there was also one fool for about 35 years, so she threw stones at a soldier.
                    And what do you think such parents will teach their children, if they themselves are the same.
                    1. densh
                      densh 24 January 2014 13: 14
                      +3
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      one fool so 35 years old she herself threw stones at a soldier.

                      The moment slipped through the video when one grandfather, such a funny one, was fussing with stones from an easel super slider in Berkut. He remembered the childhood as a senile.
                2. Russ69
                  Russ69 24 January 2014 15: 24
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, if you slow down the gopnik now and ask what further I give 100%, that the answer will be exactly a bright European future

                  Don't tell me ... Where, I read an interview with the leader of the "Right", he says that against the EU and vice versa, the EU will ditch Ukraine. They have one. "Ukraine, for Ukrainians"
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 15: 30
                    +5
                    Quote: Russ69
                    Where, then I read an interview with the leader of the "Right", he says that against the EU and vice versa, the EU will ditch Ukraine. They have one. "Ukraine, for Ukrainians"

                    If we take into account that the Natsik blocked the highway from Lviv towards the Polish border, it seems that a grandiose mopping up of the population is being prepared - first in the memory, then - where the Natsik’s hands will reach.
            2. Egoza
              24 January 2014 09: 51
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              most of these gopniks are sure that they will live, as in Holland or Germany.

              Well, yes, immediately without visas, and immediately work, and the whole social package Merkel on a silver platter will bring! I.D.I.O.T.Y
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 24 January 2014 10: 20
                +4
                Quote: Egoza
                Merkel's social package on a silver platter will bring!

                Good Morning Elena! hi
                Here is someone who, and if Angela will bring them anything, then only cuts in "social", and this will affect both German citizens and loafers with a "view of life."
                Then it will quickly be devoured by the SPD. Does she need this?
                As a citizen of Germany, I can declare to everyone who still wants to go there - "nah nobody is needed there. Millions of Bulgarians have already greased their skis there, and Ukrainians have no room there anymore." And the boob goes into the category of shrinking - for 14 years the budget is cut in all positions.
              2. typhoon7
                typhoon7 24 January 2014 19: 38
                +1
                Sorry for the country, people. I got to the end of Yanyk. Physiotherapy is now unlikely to cost.
        2. ATATA
          ATATA 24 January 2014 19: 47
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          Now we need to physically suppress the embryos of the rebellion ... Then the doubters and adventurers will not join it ...

          Yes..
          But you need to suppress quickly and unfortunately toughly.
          There is no other choice.
          Yanuca himself is to blame, it was necessary in November to reveal all this maydanutnoy scum Golden Eagle on paving stones. Maybe there would have cost dozens of other victims, and now there would be dozens of corpses at best, no illusions needed.
          I’m relatives in Ukraine, I worry about them.
      2. Egoza
        24 January 2014 09: 34
        +6
        Quote: Orel
        "Gifts of the Magi" will be brought to Kiev. Maybe the Lord God will stop this chaos ...

        The priests again stood between the Berkut and the protesters The priests went to the barricades on the street. Hrushevsky in the center of Kiev, where they plan to try to extend the truce between protesters and police until the return of the leader of the UDAR party Vitali Klitschko.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136575.html
        And these are the priests of the Tithe Church again! Moscow Patriarchate. By the way, we were very worried that we left early last time. And they left because the "peaceful protesters", under their cover, were gathering boulders, trying to throw them THROUGH the priests into Berkut. But Berkut could not answer, they were afraid to hurt the priests and sincerely thanked them for their support and at least for a slight weakening of the attacks.
        1. domokl
          domokl 24 January 2014 10: 13
          +1
          Quote: Egoza
          The priests again stood between the Berkut and the protesters

          Hello Elena ... But I saw in a live broadcast from the Maidan that the priests sang hymns and prayed on the Maidan. They praised the protesters for the struggle for freedom ... And Filaret read the message.
          We lie, and I and you, we are talking about a single people, about a single church, about common goals ... This is our main mistake.
          Now there is a confrontation between the West and the East. As parts of the Ukrainian people. Until such a people is completely formed, it will be so.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 10: 19
            +4
            Quote: domokl
            ... And the message of Filaret was read out.

            Stop, but Filaret is not the Moscow Patriarchate. They are local and they are essentially a united front with the Westerners.
            Yes, and the news was floating that the priests were guarding the barricades from Berkut. I'll see where I read it.
            Although no, the news has been deleted, probably it was vyser
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 24 January 2014 10: 32
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              No, the news has been deleted.

              It was somewhere on YouTube. But there was something about the priests' vestments, as it seemed to me, some kind of "overly disguised suspicious." Maybe schismatics ...
            2. typhoon7
              typhoon7 24 January 2014 19: 41
              +2
              Their name speaks for itself. And the church was split and the people were the same.
          2. Egoza
            24 January 2014 10: 20
            +4
            Quote: domokl
            But I saw in a live broadcast from the Maidan that the priests sang hymns and prayed on the Maidan. They praised the protesters for the struggle for freedom ... And Filaret read the message.

            Right. On the Maidan (This is not Grushevskogo street, where the fighting is going on), I'm sorry, I can't find another word, it is the representatives of the Greek Catholics, "Uniates" who were beaten so well by the Zaporozhye Cossacks for betraying FAITH! Well, Filaret is the head of the Kiev Patriarchate, unrecognized throughout the world. Dissenter! They won't climb Grushevsky! It's dangerous there! But the ministers of the MP are trying to really prevent collisions and go to the most dangerous points.
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 24 January 2014 10: 36
              +2
              On Saturday, see you with our local priest, wrote off via VC yesterday. Just on the topic of reading prayers on Sunday for the reassurance (wrote assumption, corrected) of the demoniac and helping fellow believers in Ukraine.
              Most likely they will ...
      3. Kapitan Oleg
        Kapitan Oleg 24 January 2014 10: 04
        +6
        There is only one way out, a military dictatorship is needed, which will disperse everyone and everything, both the current authorities and the opposition, after which elections are necessary.
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      5. CTEPX
        CTEPX 24 January 2014 10: 27
        +8
        Quote: Orel
        USA all worked great

        I can only repeat my comment on 08.12.13/XNUMX/XNUMX:
        The ultimate goal of this action: through the chaotization of Ukraine, with the involvement of Wahhabi remnants in the Crimea and NATO in the West of Ukraine, to start the third world war a la - the whole world against Russia.
        Fight off in Ukraine will start somewhere else)). They need a war, debts must be written off)).
        1. typhoon7
          typhoon7 24 January 2014 19: 48
          +2
          Perhaps very possible. One thing is clear that the flywheel has already been launched, and measures need to be taken urgently much more radically than negotiations with the Maidanut.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2014 19: 56
          +2
          Quote: ctepx
          Fight off in Ukraine will start somewhere else)). They need a war, debts must be written off)).

          a war in the air stinks thoroughly for three years already, all like 70-80 years ago
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      6. zzz
        zzz 24 January 2014 22: 15
        0
        Quote: Orel
        On January 24.01.2014, XNUMX, the "Gifts of the Magi" will be brought to Kiev. Maybe the Lord God will stop this chaos ...


        Not that case. There, priests themselves call for the overthrow of power.
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    5. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 24 January 2014 09: 39
      +2
      Striking carelessness.

      Ukrainian bike: Fedko we go there to beat your tatka! De? That axis is there! Arrived: who is here who beat my Tatka?
      Axis we! Come on, hit the Schaub, I swaying! BREAK! ...
      And so you beat my Tatka !!!!!!!!! A-A-A-AAAAAAA!
      Well ka-sd, I’m bobbing Schaub !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      COB! ....
      AAA, so you beat my Tatka !!!!!!! Well, ka-shob, I’ve stumbled on Schaub !!!!!!!!
      COB !!!!
      We go in the same way to the house, they can even leave !!!

      Yanyk and K% achieved and played out SPECULATING PEOPLE'S REMEDIES IN ORDER TO BETTER THE EU AND THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION MORE BENEFITS FOR HIMSELF - LAUNCHED BANDYUKOV, GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO BANDYUKU WILL BE INFLAMMATED, AND WILL BE DELIVERED.

      Only a good cuff on the head will cool the flaming ones! Who will give the cuff ????????
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 24 January 2014 10: 14
        +1
        Illegal seizure of power - court - Siberia.
        ....... a rare bird reaches the middle of the Dnieper, Ukrainian steppes spread to the Siberian taiga good I think the Siberians will not be very happy with the guests from Independence Square
      2. rolik
        rolik 24 January 2014 12: 55
        +4
        Quote: nick 1 and 2
        Yanyk and K% achieved and played out

        In due time they scattered stones, now collect. This is what cunning and cowardice bring to. You cannot outwit yourself, you cannot sit on two chairs with a thin asshole. These are common truths, only Yanukovych simply forgot them. Now only decisive action in the style of wartime can help, that's the only way. But maybe this coward can do that ??? He is ordered from Washington not to touch the demonstrators, Brussels says the same. And he listens to them, instead of sending them to hell and doing as they should. Well, sanctions will be announced, we will help. And they will try to jump on us, they will teach us another tough answer.
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        2. nickname 1 and 2
          nickname 1 and 2 24 January 2014 15: 40
          +2
          Quote: rolik
          You cannot outwit yourself


          and at the same time hope that "no one is bache"

          62 years ago I remember going "WE ARE SMART" and sang: I was going to the fair Vanka the lackey showed him for three kopecks .... artist, young artist, draw me a girl with a torn one ... round...
          Well, no one understands except us that we do not say !!!!!!!
          This went on until one man shouted at us: Hey snot! What are you adults thinking so badly about us?

          Now some people from the top of Ukraine are playing the role of snotty ones! Playing out the same scenario in front of the whole ADULT WORLD! Namely: we want to give a ride to someone, but at the same time everyone should think that THIS IS NOT SO we do not "swear"! HA!
    6. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 24 January 2014 13: 25
      +1
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      It remains to be hoped that there will not be too much blood.


      On the contrary, I hope that the authorities nevertheless come to their senses and cut down the whole Bandera shoble at the root as a warning to posterity.
      1. Egoza
        24 January 2014 13: 27
        +3
        Quote: Geisenberg
        nevertheless, the authorities will come to their senses and cut down at the root of the whole Bandera schoble as a warning to posterity.

        The detained activists of Avtomaydan received multiple bruises, injuries to their arms and legs, said a traumatologist who examined them. According to the physician, the guys are in a very depressed psychological state. Convoys are on duty all the time near them.
        According to the doctor, activists said that they were attacked right on the street.
        We will remind, at night several avtomaydanovtsy who patrolled the central streets of Kiev, called for help on the street. Shchorsa. There they were already waiting for "titushki". During the conversation, they dragged on until the "Berkut" arrived. The activists were taken to the police station. According to the relatives, they saw the bloody clothes of the auto-Maidan fighters in the department.
        http://www.segodnya.ua/ukraine/avtomaydanovcy-ochen-podavleny-ot-nih-ne-othodyat
        -konvoiry-vrach-490788.html
        XXXX
        It will not be enough! Here it is necessary for all at once !!!
    7. homosum20
      homosum20 24 January 2014 14: 05
      +2
      There will be more blood. Question - whose?
      The worst part is that this is a rehearsal. Ukrainians in the role of experimental. When Russia will begin to prick. The swamp is also just training. The main thing will be when it is decided who will be our next president. I hope that we will not succeed.
    8. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 24 January 2014 16: 44
      +1
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      It remains to be hoped that there will not be too much blood.
      So far, everything is going to blood.
      I apologize for the pessimism.

      The body of the state needs to be cleaned regularly of infections, in Ukraine everything is suitable for this. It’s time for someone to get a lesson, but one must act extremely rigidly and on a large scale. To not have time to the airport and to the owners.
  2. Sasha_Bykov
    Sasha_Bykov 24 January 2014 08: 34
    +21
    water cannons disperse in the cold the effect of love is guaranteed. We are muddy muddy something, and Klitschko is a traitor.
    1. domokl
      domokl 24 January 2014 08: 50
      +16
      This could be done two months ago .. Now the rebellion has already spread throughout western Ukraine and the Maidan is more a bunch of these very sacred victims ... Now you need to catch and plant .. Quickly and tough, even cruel ..
      1. Platov
        Platov 24 January 2014 13: 17
        +1
        "Fast and hard, even cruel ..". should be imprisoned for a long time with a very long investigation lasting a couple of years for an attempted coup, and not for a peaceful protest for a couple of days. After the elections, the new president will announce them an amnesty. In the meantime, let them rage on the terms to increase.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 09: 07
      +9
      Quote: Sasha_Bykov
      water cannons disperse in the cold the effect of love is guaranteed.

      But how did it come to your mind to pour cold and defenseless people in the cold. That's when the revolutionaries have machine guns and grenade launchers in their hands, then the use of water cannons will be proportional to the use of force. And that is not advisable.
      1. Manager
        Manager 24 January 2014 09: 12
        +12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But how did it come to your mind to pour cold and defenseless people in the cold. That's when the revolutionaries have machine guns and grenade launchers in their hands, then the use of water cannons will be proportional to the use of force. And that is not advisable.


        Well, I’m saying ... They already have ballista and catapults. They will soon invent gunpowder!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 09: 35
          +4
          Quote: Manager
          They will soon invent gunpowder!

          Judging by the gunshot corpses already invented.
          1. Egoza
            24 January 2014 09: 41
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Judging by the gunshot corpses already invented.

            Pay attention to the opinion of Miroslava Berdnik in the article. Correctly she says, the firearms are not "our origin" most likely.
      2. Sasha_Bykov
        Sasha_Bykov 24 January 2014 15: 41
        +2
        and today's scenario threatens to get out of control completely, hundreds of beaten security forces, a crushed Maidan ... and in other cities what is going on ... if it was the Caucasus or Africa, then there would have been granotamets and machine guns !! and then there would have been no water cannons I had to use armored personnel carriers and tanks !! time for decisive action, what are the special services of Ukraine doing ??
    3. Egoza
      24 January 2014 09: 38
      +8
      By the way, about the "poor boy" who is already being actively promoted as a victim ...
      The journalist spoke about the nuances of the story with the "bullying of the Berkut"
      In fact, the Kharkiv Berkut employees saved Mikhail Gavrilyaka from death in the fire - the Euromaidan soldier doused himself with gasoline and began to threaten with self-immolation, journalist Andrei Borodavka reports on his Facebook. “Therefore, Gavrilyaka was seized, tied up and freed from his clothes soaked in gasoline. Naked, the guy was taken to the bus, where he was photographed“ for memory ”and received a sparing slap on the head. The video also shows a fireman with a fire extinguisher accompanying the arrested arsonist.
      Stubborn bruises are visible on the naked body - obviously, Mikhail takes an active part in the assault on the barriers of Berkut and internal troops on Grushevsky Street. There is information that he is in the hundred and is one of the most accurate throwers of “Molotov cocktails”, it was he who “bombed” policemen from the roof of the stadium's balustrade. By the way, undressing detainees and dousing them with water in the cold, as about cruel torture, is the usual practice of special forces to ensure the safety of detained attack aircraft from Euromaidan. The fact is that police grab the most active participants in the riots, many of their clothes are completely saturated with clothing or stains from a flammable combustible mixture, the bottles with which they or their neighbors constantly throw at the defenders of the government quarter. After this, it is necessary to explain why flammable clothing is removed, and its carriers are bathed in water?
      Later, a comment appeared by the head of the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Sergei Burlakov. “The minister instructed to understand the situation, in fact an investigation has already begun. This behavior is unacceptable. The guilty will be punished to the fullest extent of the law. They face up to criminal liability (Article 365 “Excess of power or official authority”, up to five years in prison, ”he said.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136589.html
      XXXX
      Well, there are honest journalists! Only here guys still rake
    4. rolik
      rolik 24 January 2014 12: 56
      0
      Quote: Sasha_Bykov
      Klitschko the traitor

      Klitschko is a foreign agent (see his tax returns) + agent of influence. These are the ones to be guided by the letter of the law to plant. And do not smear the snot.
    5. kosta_cs
      kosta_cs 24 January 2014 13: 42
      +2
      Water cannons in the cold - it's inhumane fool . Forbidden by some convention (Kaby not Geneva).
      I propose to consider the option of flamethrowers, 100% in no convention does not spell a ban on their use in frost repeat
      1. Egoza
        24 January 2014 17: 46
        +1
        Quote: kosta_cs
        Forbidden by some convention (if not Geneva

        And for whom is forbidden? In Hamburg, 22.12.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX, there were the most large-scale clashes in recent years.
        “According to the police, about XNUMX people took part in the demonstration, most of whom were representatives of radical left groups. About XNUMX policemen ensured order during the rally.
        The situation began to escalate shortly after the start of the demonstration, when a group of radical people attacked the police. Law enforcement officers immediately responded to the provocation, using water cannons and stopping the convoy. The demonstrators threw stones and bottles at the police, set fire to garbage containers. Police detained nearly 150 demonstrators and stopped the rally ahead of schedule to avoid further escalation of the conflict.
        While the police say about provocations by the demonstrators, the organizers of the action accuse the guards of provoking the riots. In their opinion, the aggressive atmosphere at the demonstration was due to the presence of a large number of police officers. They also claim that the police deliberately stopped the protesters from the very beginning. "
        XXXX
        And by the way - the month of December and the frost there was -5. And all "honest media" are silent along with the EU leaders !!!
        1. kosta_cs
          kosta_cs 24 January 2014 19: 01
          +2
          I am not going to discuss double standards, since this is already a "by the town", I will only note that my statement is not a serious proposal, but irony over the current situation.

          ZY My opinion is - do not give a damn about the opinion of the "advanced public" and sanctions, cordon off the crowd with a double cordon, issue an ultimatum to surrender, and then disperse the whole rabble using all the necessary means (including firearms). The law must be observed for everyone, and from the point of view of the law, "peaceful demonstrators" have long been criminals with such a good bouquet of articles (participation in public unrest, resistance to representatives of the authorities, an attempt on the state system, etc.) Not so long ago, we also tried to do something similar, but thank God our government did not suffer from impotence, so everything ended in a couple of days, albeit at the cost of a dozen lives.
  3. ZU-23
    ZU-23 24 January 2014 08: 35
    +9
    Yes, already tired, we are waiting and looking, and the Maidan people definitely need to be beaten and planted, and whoever wants to sit as a hero, even let them shoot them.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 24 January 2014 08: 40
      +8
      Quote: ZU-23
      Yes, I'm tired already, we are waiting and looking, but the Maidan people definitely need to be beaten and planted
      They will give the go-ahead there in a couple of hours. They’ll disperse everyone home, but they won’t go home. The authorities are afraid of what they can say in the west. Yanukovych is not decisive, it was clear from Yushchenko when he gave the victory to him and the woman with the scythe.
      1. domokl
        domokl 24 January 2014 08: 52
        +6
        Quote: bomg.77
        They will give the go-ahead there in a couple of hours, they’ll disperse everyone home, and

        From Maidan, yes ... But what to do with Lviv? Exactly? With other regions and areas where authorities, security forces and practically the rebels are already seized?
        1. calocha
          calocha 24 January 2014 09: 05
          +6
          Enter troops and restore order !!!
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 24 January 2014 09: 30
            +1
            Quote: calocha
            Send troops

            Whose? And you can assume that in the troops there are a lot of DISSATISFIED WITH THIS PRESENT POWER.
            How will they react that they will be given the order to PROTECT this very power.
            Axiom, proven over the centuries. If the army ceases to submit to power, then it passes either to the category of organizers of a military coup or it simply does not exist ...
            Imagine that in a month (?) Ukraine has NO ARMY!
            1. calocha
              calocha 24 January 2014 09: 37
              +1
              Yes, even Belarus or Russia !!! You just need to ask for help officially !!! Turn on the brain comrade!
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 24 January 2014 09: 59
                +1
                Actually, this is called intervention in a normal society, and for shit-racers, a peacekeeping operation. What do you like more, comrade?
                Even here, on the site, very sane people said that this would be perceived extremely negatively inside the country, and even in the West it would generally cause increased salivation from clinging stings in anticipation of biting off pieces of the country.

                Shl. In order to understand this, in principle, a brain is not needed, a secondary Soviet education is enough, so I will not turn to you with such a request - there is no need to "turn the pianos" in the skull ... hi
                1. Egoza
                  24 January 2014 10: 05
                  +9
                  Quote: Ptah
                  Actually, this is called intervention in a normal society, and for shit-racers, a peacekeeping operation.

                  Well, if NATO will conduct a peacekeeping operation, then the entire memory will be choked with happiness, and Europe will applaud standing !!! It was not in vain that Gorbachev called on Putin and Obama to figure out ... help ... kill ... consensus ... And he hasn’t died yet, you bastard! And he doesn’t want to remember who started this whole shit democracy? am
                  1. densh
                    densh 24 January 2014 13: 27
                    +2
                    Quote: Egoza
                    Well, if NATO will conduct a peacekeeping operation, then the entire memory will be choked with happiness,

                    I hasten to remind the partnership, the frightened population of Zapadenshchyna has already sent a petition to Washington with a request to introduce peacekeeping troops into Ukraine.
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 11: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: Ptah
                  Threat. To understand this, in principle, the brain is not needed

                  laughing originally, the opponent will break the whole brain and think, what to answer lol
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 10: 02
                +2
                Quote: calocha
                Yes, even Belarus or Russia !!

                And then what?
                Quote: calocha
                You just need to ask for help officially!

                Who will ask Yanukovych, he is now going to receive regular guests from the west.
                Quote: calocha
                Turn on the brain comrade!

                Oh well
          2. Vladimir 70
            Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 09: 35
            +2
            Enter troops and restore order !!!
            We no longer have fighting forces. The destruction of the Army began under Kuchma, when the so-called National Guard was created in opposition to the Army. When the need for nat. The guard fell away and it was dispersed.
            1. domokl
              domokl 24 January 2014 09: 54
              +1
              Quote: Vladimir 70
              We no longer have combat forces. At

              Against the armed people, even poorly trained but obeying orders will be effective. Yes and armament allows you to resolve issues quickly and with minimal losses for the military.
              But the question is, those people who are not for the Nazis, but simply against such a government, and what? Trained militants will be able to leave if they use weapons. They have been preparing for more than one year precisely for a guerrilla war in the city. And ordinary townsfolk will get into a meat grinder ...
              1. zavesa01
                zavesa01 24 January 2014 10: 27
                +4
                Simple laymen ALREADY in a meat grinder. Until the army finally dispersed, it must be used. Establish a state of emergency, impose a curfew at a minimum.
            2. Ptah
              Ptah 24 January 2014 10: 00
              +4
              Quote: Vladimir 70
              We no longer have fighting forces.

              Let at least a function remain as the protection of weapons. Otherwise - a kabzda ....
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 11: 13
                +2
                Quote: Ptah
                Let at least a function remain as the protection of weapons. Otherwise - a kabzda ....

                I’m afraid that scumbags would not have read our comments and this thought of seizing weapons depots has not crept into their empty heads. We will be to blame request
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 11: 19
                  +5
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: Ptah
                  Let at least a function remain as the protection of weapons. Otherwise - a kabzda ....
                  I'm afraid that scumbags would not have read our comments and this thought of seizing weapons depots has not crept into their empty heads

                  Something tells me that banderlogs the keys to arsenals are already in my pockets ...
                2. vlum
                  vlum 24 January 2014 20: 01
                  +2
                  Still, there was no shortage of criminal talent at all times. By the way, in the news in the report I saw a fresh little pitchfork on the Maidan. Probably only today in the basement of the Ministry of Agrarian Policy found
              2. revnagan
                revnagan 24 January 2014 13: 09
                +3
                Quote: Ptah
                Let at least a function remain as the protection of weapons. Otherwise - a cabzda ...

                Remained. And the army is not "Bekkut". When trying to seize property and weapons, they will shoot to kill. Since yesterday, in our city, the regiment is firing. Outside the schedule. The army is preparing.
                1. Egoza
                  24 January 2014 13: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: revnagan
                  .When trying to seize property and weapons, they will shoot to kill. Since yesterday in our city, firing is being carried out in the regiment. Out of schedule. The army is preparing

                  May God grant that the army truly obeys the order. I am personally very concerned about the fact that since the time of Yushchenko, the guys from the memory were sent to the army and tried not to take from the Donbass. In particular, they were sent to the Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. In addition, people from the memory were quickly promoted to leadership positions. Schools were closed, officers were dismissed. Who is left? And where will it lead?
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 14: 16
                    +4
                    Quote: Egoza
                    Quote: revnagan
                    .When trying to seize property and weapons, they will shoot to kill. Since yesterday in our city, firing is being carried out in the regiment. Out of schedule. The army is preparing
                    God grant that indeed the army will fulfill the order

                    Md-ah ...
                    The weapon fires equally in both directions ... recourse
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 14: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: revnagan
                  .Army is getting ready.

                  The question is what is being prepared.
            3. calocha
              calocha 24 January 2014 10: 02
              +3
              Now in the western regions will begin a "bucha", and the longer Yanukovych hesitates with a tough decision on Kiev, the more tough the province will overwhelm! to pomoshch.Tut in Crimea the Tatars "remember" who is the boss, and the Turks will harness for them, and after the Turks .. NATO. The fun, however ... Straight Olympics!))
              1. 3935333
                3935333 24 January 2014 10: 33
                +4
                the plot is interesting, but Romanians, apart from farting, are not capable of anything yet, here are the Turks! but there, too, the water almost boiled - they have Syria in their belly ... so that remains the European units of the US Army and NATO special forces.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 09: 09
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          From Maidan, yes ... But what to do with Lviv? Exactly?

          Like what, Sasha didn’t really forget himself, a warrior! When power loses control, the power in the country passes to gangs and, as history shows, gangs are always well-armed.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 24 January 2014 09: 33
            +2
            Greetings, Sasha.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            When power loses control, the power in the country passes to gangs and, as history shows, gangs are always well-armed.

            ... as well as when the government is overthrown, as you mentioned above and hinted in the words "send to ..."
            Or am I misunderstood?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 10: 05
              +2
              Quote: Ptah
              Or am I misunderstood?

              Hi hi Yes, you’ve understood everything, you yourself can clearly see what is happening. We are the only ones who disagree on the speed of events.
          2. domokl
            domokl 24 January 2014 10: 00
            +3
            Hello to the radicals laughing Sasha, to whom power passes, I know ... But what you propose will lead to the division of the country ... And who benefits from it? Not Ukraine, not Russia, not the Ukrainian people ... But just those who muddied it ... Europe and the states of Ukraine, in its present form, do not need ... It is too huge to remain in the back of the geyropa. But divided like Yugoslavia (also once the most powerful state of geyrops) will become small pieces of what is now.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 10: 25
              +2
              Quote: domokl
              . But what you propose will lead to the division of the country.

              Sanya, but in fact there is nothing left of the country. Western clowns want to get everything at once, what kind of unity are you talking about? The East is a different topic altogether. Anyone will come sooner or later. Nazis will seize power or shoot them. But the result is one chaos.
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        3. bomg.77
          bomg.77 24 January 2014 09: 28
          +5
          Quote: domokl
          From Maidan, yes ... But what to do with Lviv? Exactly?
          the same as on the Maidan, what happens is the connivance of Yanukovych and the bacillus is spreading, but if he extinguishes the hearth (Maidan), after a week the two will calm down, without the moral support of the Maidan they are not viable.
          1. Egoza
            24 January 2014 09: 45
            +2
            Quote: bomg.77
            in a week two everyone will calm down,

            Opposition leaders after negotiations with the President of Ukraine came to st. Grushevsky in Kiev, the Polemics correspondent reports. The leader of the BLOW Vitali Klitschko began to say into the loudspeaker that he did not want blood, but the protesters did not let him speak, shouting: "Lead people forward." After that, Klitschko handed the loudspeaker to the leader of the VO "Svoboda" Oleg Tyagnibok, who said that "we all need to decide together what to do next." Protesters booed Tyagnibok's speech. Oppositionists said they needed one more day for negotiations. In response to this, people shout: "Lies" and "Shame".
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136578.html
            XXXX
            Tyagnibok said that during the negotiations they were promised to consider on Tuesday at an extraordinary meeting of the Verkhovna Rada of the abolition of laws adopted on January 16, the issue of government responsibility, as well as decriminalization of all participants in the actions. Within 3 days, the courts will also have to make a decision to change the measure of restraint for all previously arrested protesters to house arrest. In addition, the authorities promised to ban the use of firearms by Berkut.
            Meanwhile, the protesters negatively perceived the results of the negotiations. People believe that this is not the result and fear that the security forces who beat people will be able to avoid punishment. After speaking on Grushevsky Street, Vitali Klitschko and Oleg Tyagnibok went to Maidan to perform on the main stage and voice the results of negotiations with the authorities there. Some people went after them. After that, singer Ruslana rose to the barricade on Grushevsky Street and urged the protesters to stop the military operations. She was booed and drowned out with shouts of “Ganba!” People shouted: “It's not Kazantip, we don’t want to dance with flashlights. We want to act! ”,“ Lead us to the Golden Eagle. ”
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136582.html
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 24 January 2014 09: 58
              +3
              Quote: Egoza
              After that, Klitschko handed over the loudspeaker to the leader of the VO "Svoboda" Oleg Tyagnibok, who said that "we all need to decide together what to do next." Protesters booed Tyagnibok's speech. Oppositionists said they needed one more day for negotiations. In response to this, people shout: "Lies" and "Shame".
              Elena hi They are afraid of responsibility, they did not expect that it would go so far, they thought they would blackmail the government and that’s all. They don’t control the crowd, the crowd controls them, and the crowd is directly coordinators from Europe. POWER ..... ALL !!!!
              1. Egoza
                24 January 2014 10: 14
                +2
                Quote: bomg.77
                They already do not control the crowd, the crowd controls them, and the crowd is directly coordinators from Europe.


                "It was the" Right Sector "that led to today's deaths. Further actions and calls from the" Right Sector "are rapidly reducing the chance of a victory for the protest and a normal future for Ukraine. The Maidan had moral superiority for two months. writes journalist Orest Zog. The authorities and their so-called "law enforcement" were delighted when stones and Molotov cocktails flew at them. They had been waiting for this for a long time. This gave them the opportunity to do what they always wanted: brutally beat and shoot. It is much more difficult to force commanders to carry out the order to beat up people who are just standing, than the order to “clean up” the crowd that throws “Molotov.” It is much more difficult to explain to “friends” and to oneself the atrocities against peaceful protesters than to aggressive ones. emotions, then why did the vaunted hundreds of self-defense of the Maidan not stop the right-wingers in the following days? Where was the cold mind of their leaders? For three days of violence The number of victims and injuries among the people is incomparably greater than that of the "Berkut". Was it difficult to foresee? Is it really difficult to predict that a couple of hundred, even if even thousands of aggressive activists will not be able to break through the cordon or even keep their positions? Why keep throwing Molotovs, flares and fireworks now that snipers have entered the arena? So that the angry executors of criminal orders don't think what they are doing to disperse the crowd? So that in every student of the theater institute they see a mortal enemy? So that instead of the 500 thousand that went out to peaceful protests, today there would be at most thirty thousand? Many do not want to associate themselves with aggressive young men, and therefore will stay at home at a critical moment. Peaceful Maidan attracted people and thereby increased its strength. The aggressive Maidan continues to be "friendly" only for the most ardent protesters. There are not 500 thousand of them, you can beat them, shoot and disperse them. Today, those who work in the center and students left offices and classrooms earlier and went en masse ... no, not to the Maidan. Let's go home. For this we must thank the "Right Sector".
                Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136544.html
                The author didn’t ask the most important one: WHERE DOES THE RIGHT SECTOR COME FROM? !!! IS THIS ONLY FOOTBALL FANS?
                1. vlum
                  vlum 25 January 2014 09: 36
                  +1
                  Translation by A. N. Rozhdestvenskaya (1908-1909):

                  Since there was no way to go through the small door, there was no point in standing near it. Oh, how nice it would be if you could become very small! Alice returned to the table: there might be another key on it. There was no key, but Alice saw a vial, which - she was quite sure of it - had not been here before. On a piece of paper tied to the bottle was beautifully written in large block letters: "Drink me."

                  It was worth nothing, of course, to write: "Drink me", it was possible, perhaps, and a drink; but Alice, being a smart girl, did not want to rush and act rashly. “First, I’ll see,” she thought, “if the bottle says“ poison. ”She read many different pretty, scary stories about children. Sometimes the children they talked about got fatal burns and died; sometimes they were eaten by wild animals or in general, something else happened to them, just as unpleasant. And why? Yes, only because they acted rashly and forgot what their father and mother told them; for example, that you would burn yourself badly about a red-hot poker if you grab it, and if if you cut your finger with a knife, then the finger will bleed. ”But Alice remembered all this well, she also remembered that one should not drink from the bottle on which“ poison ”was written, because it would make you very sick.

                  The word "poison" was not written on the bottle, and Alice decided to taste what was in it. And since it turned out to be very tasty and resembled at the same time a pie with cherries, a fried turkey, cookies, pineapple and fried tartins with butter, Alice drank every drop.
          2. domokl
            domokl 24 January 2014 10: 07
            +2
            Quote: bomg.77
            the same as on the Maidan, what happens is the connivance of Yanukovych

            Alyosha, do you understand that you are calling for a civil war? The seizure of power in these regions took place a long time ago. These regions were only nominally subordinate to Kiev. And now I had to sacrifice this illusion in order to at least somehow cheer up the Maidan.
            The population of these regions supports their Maidanites. It supports. And will oppose the government units.
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 24 January 2014 10: 30
              +2
              Quote: domokl
              Alyosha, do you understand that you are calling for a civil war?
              Where did you see the call to war? Is it necessary to restore constitutional order? Not to restore order will lead to war.
              Quote: domokl
              .These regions only nominally obeyed Kiev. And now I had to sacrifice this illusion in order to at least somehow cheer up the Maidan.
              These regions are not independent and must submit to Kiev !! They will not be able to restore real power there, even if they restore the illusory, like a bulo!
        4. revnagan
          revnagan 24 January 2014 13: 05
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          What to do with Lviv? With Rivne? With other regions and districts

          Until complete enlightenment, no funding for local governments of these rebellious regions from the State budget. No salaries, bonuses, payments "for health improvement" to officials of these regions. If the Kiev authorities do not like it, get the funding from the state budget. They would immediately become wiser.
          1. vlum
            vlum 24 January 2014 20: 17
            +1
            There is a very big suspicion that they have not given money there a long time ago.
        5. Platov
          Platov 24 January 2014 13: 23
          +1
          Do not give them money from the center, let them swell on their taxes from hunger and swell.
      2. Orik
        Orik 24 January 2014 09: 05
        +3
        Quote: bomg.77
        They will give the go-ahead there in a couple of hours. They’ll disperse everyone home, but they won’t go home. The authorities are afraid of what they can say in the west. Yanukovych is not decisive, it was clear from Yushchenko when he gave the victory to him and the woman with the scythe.

        Only the power popular among the people can give the go-ahead. Yanek is not popular not only in the west, but also in the east and is forced to wait until opponents compromise themselves with their actions when the people choose him as the worst of evils.
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 24 January 2014 09: 31
          +4
          Quote: Orik
          Only the power popular among the people can give the go-ahead.
          The opposition has crossed all borders and this is a coup d'etat, the point is not in popularity, but in the fact that he is a legitimate president and is the legitimate authority that can issue an order, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs will execute this order, I have no doubt, just order them .....!
          1. Egoza
            24 January 2014 09: 48
            +2
            Quote: bomg.77
            Opposition Crosses All Borders

            According to a Segodnya.ua correspondent, the leader of the UDAR party, Vitali Klitschko, stayed with the activists. He actively communicates with people.
            The opposition leader also spoke with the security forces. According to Klitschko, he managed to talk with the Berkut colonel and agree that in the near future no forceful methods will be used against the activists.
            While Klitschko was on the other side of the barricades, protesters set fire to tires. After that, an explosion of a noise grenade and several shots sounded.
            The politician began to quickly move back towards European mercy.
            Meanwhile, the protesters boldly go out to Hrushevsky Street and chant towards the security forces: "Give up!", "Go home!", "You were deceived!"
            At the moment, the bonfire from the tires is extinguished by the power train from the brunsworth.
            At the same time, active construction of the barricade continues at Institutskaya.
      3. ZU-23
        ZU-23 24 January 2014 09: 57
        +1
        Quote: bomg.77
        The authorities are afraid of what they might say in the west. Yanukovych is not decisive

        Yes, this indecision simply kills me, really, if you don’t listen to the Americans, it cannot be worse, in this regard they need to learn from us, he just looks and sniffs out who will win in this world, good or evil, Russia or the West European community, which to know to whom he would then park.
        1. ZU-23
          ZU-23 24 January 2014 10: 07
          +4
          That would, by and large, Ukraine itself would not give Europe as president, my opinion is that I am the president, I have maintained the integrity of Ukraine and whoever says something to me on the drum, Russia has not given up, the point has not gone to the fascist. Moreover, this idiot has a majority.
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      5. Max otto
        Max otto 24 January 2014 10: 08
        +2
        And I remember that six months ago they talked about the split of Ukraine, and thought that it was not possible. And now this perspective is becoming more and more real every hour (not like day).
        And these new laws Yanik had to be adopted as soon as he came, otherwise he combed himself when the hut caught fire, he remembered: "Ept yazh prezident!
      6. demon184
        demon184 24 January 2014 10: 37
        +2
        Yanuk is the same as our humpbacked one, the hunchbacked one has soiled up the union, and this Ukraine will cherish. Yes, like humpback, too, was from Ukraine
        1. Rebus
          Rebus 24 January 2014 11: 45
          +1
          Quote: demon184
          Yes, like hunchback, too, was from Ukraine

          No, this ghoul was born in the North Caucasus Territory (now the territory of the Stavropol Territory), although one of the awards yoke is the medal "In Commemoration of the 1500 Years of Kiev". But basically the comparison is correct, it seems to me that Yanukovych has already fucked everything up ...
  4. Name
    Name 24 January 2014 08: 36
    +7
    For the fight against the Nazis, "Berkut" is enough, the opposition itself has lost its influence, so kLichko is Zits - "president"(who will later sit down for a long time).
    1. Egoza
      24 January 2014 09: 49
      +2
      Quote: name
      kLichko- this is Zits- "president" (there will be someone to sit down for a long time).

      “They are trying to intimidate us. And the same thing happened in the negotiations, they tried to intimidate and tell how much each will be. They are trying to intimidate us all so that we huddle in holes and do not stick our nose out ... I am afraid for human sacrifice ... I call on each of you, we will expand the territory of the Maidan, "said Klitschko. At the same time, he said: "We will not give up."
      Earlier, opposition leaders returned from negotiations in the AP. Klitschko called on the protesters to extend the truce until the morning. The protesters did not like this.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136591.html
  5. ed65b
    ed65b 24 January 2014 08: 36
    +23
    He craps the country, craps. Lviv, Rivne is already de facto under the control of Svobodovets. Another week of handshakes in the office of Yanuk with three piglets and he can safely order a requiem for Ukraine. For such a state will no longer exist, he is still a coward, a coward and a traitor.
    1. Rebus
      Rebus 24 January 2014 11: 56
      +3
      Quote: ed65b
      He is still a coward, a coward and a traitor.

      Definitely. From the very beginning, he did not control the situation (or did not want to control). If the cancerous tumor is not excised, at the initial stage, it launches metastases - such a sad analogy with Ukraine, metastases of the Maidan have sprouted ...
      1. alone
        alone 24 January 2014 19: 53
        +2
        Quote: Rebus
        From the very beginning, he did not control the situation (or did not want to control).


        Well, it's you in vain. Just the same, he controlled the robbery of the country very effectively.
  6. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 24 January 2014 08: 36
    +13
    For twenty years Russia has not been engaged in Ukraine. During this time, other countries have dealt fairly well in Ukraine.

    In my opinion, and Russia has been engaged in NATO and US countries for twenty years, and all the republics of the former USSR. I am amazed how you can allow any agents of potential enemies to work unhindered in your country, under the guise of "public organizations" that are financed from abroad and are engaged in espionage and undermining society? And they are also engaged in destructive "reforms", destruction of industry, corruption of young people.
  7. makarov
    makarov 24 January 2014 08: 36
    0
    "And Berkut must also obtain permission to at least fire combatants at the limbs of those who at this particular moment are shooting, throwing, setting fire to."

    And then what will happen ?? Weapons will be looted and weapons will be used everywhere and everywhere. Such a scenario cannot be allowed. There will be a big trouble !!!
    1. domokl
      domokl 24 January 2014 08: 59
      +9
      Do you really think that the militants do not have weapons? And what is the most modern? It's like with the armament of the people, the security forces and the military have weapons, the criminals also ... And the rest do not need it ...
      But the trouble will not be from orders to use weapons. The trouble is that impunity strikes even greater violence and sacrifices ... Now the stronger you are, we have more rights ... Taiga, not the state ...
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 24 January 2014 10: 35
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        Do you really think that the militants have no weapons?

        Znakom.com agency uploaded a photo where police officers aim from Scorpio. And it’s stupid to think that the West is not behind all this. After giving up the EU, they did explicitly say so.
  8. awg75
    awg75 24 January 2014 08: 36
    +7
    it’s necessary to crush this unfinished bender and hard to crush, so that you would wash your snot with blood snot all your life. is it really unclear to the people of Ukraine that if we don’t harshly disperse this whole riffraff, then in the near future Ukraine will face the fate of Yugoslavia - the United States and pedoEurope will divide the country into separate states that are at war with each other, destroying the economy and plunging tens and hundreds of thousands of people into poverty. Ukraine come to your senses !!!
    1. makarov
      makarov 24 January 2014 08: 49
      +13
      "You need to press this unfinished bender and press hard, so that you wash your face with bloody snot all your life."

      This begs the logical question: - And who cherished them (?), Wasn’t Yanukovych himself developing a strategy for the erosion of the opposition’s votes in the elections ????
      I will give an example:
      My daughter studied in the Russian-language class of the gymnasium, and so by order of the 1st deputy mayor of the city, a member of the Party of Regions, this class was disbanded due to Russian-language teaching. Only by a court decision I was able to restore the integrity of the class and teaching in Russian.
      Still need to explain something ????
  9. pensioner
    pensioner 24 January 2014 08: 39
    +19
    Somehow here a long time ago they were spreading the "manifesto" of some union of Ukrainian officers who were ready to go to Syria to restore order. Can the peasants first figure it out in their homeland?
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 24 January 2014 09: 35
      +3
      Quote: retired
      Somehow here a long time ago they were spreading the "manifesto" of some union of Ukrainian officers who were ready to go to Syria to restore order. Can the peasants first figure it out in their homeland?

      It was already a few days ago that they were discussing an open letter.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 24 January 2014 10: 08
        +1
        Quote: ed65b
        It was already a few days ago that they were discussing an open letter.

        To blame. fool I was at work ... And today minus 40! good Output!!!!
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 24 January 2014 10: 25
          +1
          Quote: retired
          Quote: ed65b
          It was already a few days ago that they were discussing an open letter.

          To blame. fool I was at work ... And today minus 40! good Output!!!!

          Do not blame yourself Yuri. we have minus 12 heat, at work sad
  10. a52333
    a52333 24 January 2014 08: 39
    +6
    Block the US embassy in Ukraine by peaceful demonstration, complicating coordination as much as possible, and maybe financing.
    1. dddym
      dddym 24 January 2014 11: 00
      +4
      in general, with any turmoil, ambassadors flee first of all, fearing reprisal - if they are still there, then they believe that their situation will not affect them. Two conclusions - 1 — there is no fighting there, and until it is foreseen — the conclusion is 2 — the coordinators sitting in the embassies will leave this ship last — having previously dismantled its equipment as much as possible.
      What to do? I agree with the previous speaker - to block embassies and not only the United States. Under the guise of security. Mute mobile phones in Kiev, take gun shops under force control, close the city from visitors, turn off Internet access points, just turn off the electricity. Many civilians will be unhappy, but why will they be happy when the massacre breaks out in their home? Yanukovych stop "peacefully" negotiating - take a step and stand up for you! Don't hit your own! Don't be a traitor!
  11. calocha
    calocha 24 January 2014 08: 39
    +8
    Mr. Yanukovych has no clear position, there is smearing of snot! Several thousand radical groups, sponsored from outside, have gathered in Kiev to destabilize the situation. Yanukovych was simply confused .. He needs support ... interferes .. Ask for advice or ask for help from V. Putin and A. Lukashenko. We are brothers !!! We will pacify this plague at once!
    1. Egoza
      24 January 2014 09: 56
      +6
      Quote: calocha
      We’ll pacify this plague!

      And you are doing it right !!!!

      Solidarity actions with Euromaidan took place in Moscow and Minsk
      Arrests for supporting the Ukrainian people.
      Solidarity activists with Euromaidan were detained in Moscow and Minsk, according to the plot of the TSN night issue.
      12 protesters laid flowers at the monument to Taras Shevchenko near the Ukrainian Embassy in Minsk.
      A similar action of solidarity in Tbilisi took place without consequences for its participants. In contrast to Russia.
      Two hundred people gathered outside the Ukrainian embassy in Moscow. They unfurled a banner with the words "Ukraine, we are with you!" The protesters sang the Ukrainian anthem, held flags and candles in their hands in memory of the fallen activists. The Moscow protesters themselves posted the video of the action on the Internet.
      The police detained 11's for an unauthorized rally. All of them were taken to departments. The detainees on social networks complained that before that they were kept in a cold bus for several hours and demanded to give their passports.
      They also complained !!! And what, should they have put "climate control"?
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 24 January 2014 10: 12
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        And what, should they have put "climate control"?

        Not. Their candles are in ... In opposition, so to speak ... repeatGood day, Helen! love
  12. Sasha_Bykov
    Sasha_Bykov 24 January 2014 08: 41
    +9
    near 100 youth of Golden Eagle with craniocerebral injuries. In Russia, we would have started firing, we remember how riot police threw a peaceful rally in Vladivostok when they rallied against duties on foreign cars, and then Molotov cocktails and stones ...
    1. Egoza
      24 January 2014 10: 00
      +2
      Quote: Sasha_Bykov
      about 100 youth of Golden Eagle with craniocerebral injuries

      All suffered ALREADY 250 fighters. !!! And this bastard Lutsenko ....
      : Barricades should be put closer to Yanukovych
      Ex-Minister spoke with protesters on the Maidan

      "The security forces are tired, exhausted, and stand in diapers. Two more days and they will leave on their own. We must wait, but not attack," Yuriy Lutsenko said while talking to the protesters, Gazeta.ua reports.

      "What happened in several regional administrations means that the process of revolution is progressing positively. Here we have to stand on the barricades. If we are not attacked, we do not attack first in any case," the politician said.

      "Barricades should be erected closer to Yanukovych, so that he can better hear that these are not the demands of politicians, but of millions of people." - noted Lutsenko.
      Meanwhile, a new barricade was built at the upper exit of metro Khreshchatyk on Institutskaya Street. No active actions are taking place on Grushevsky St., the barricades have become larger.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 24 January 2014 10: 48
        -2
        Quote: Egoza
        "The siloviki are tired, exhausted, they stand in diapers. Two more days and they will leave on their own. We must wait, but not attack," said Yuriy Lutsenko

        EMBARRENDLY CHANGING PAMPERS ... lol
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 10: 59
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        Meanwhile, a new barricade was built at the upper exit of metro Khreshchatyk on Institutskaya Street. No active actions are taking place on Grushevsky St., the barricades have become larger.

        Elena!
        Independence Square with Maidan - this is no longer relevant, second plan ...
        The main events take place in Lviv, Ternopol, etc.
        The country is split into pieces.
        And Three from the casket - "look away"
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 24 January 2014 11: 15
          +1
          Hi Ilyich! hi Read at leisure Inosmi about the Maidan. It is something...
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Ternopil

          Interesting: for whom is my friend, Vova Juror?
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          The main events take place in Lviv
          What do you think: can banderlogs cross the Polish-Ukrainian border if they suddenly discover everything there in Lviv?
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 12: 17
            +5
            Quote: retired
            What do you think: can banderlogs cross the Polish-Ukrainian border if they suddenly discover everything there in Lviv?

            Good afternoon, Yuri!
            I think that the Polish border guards have received readiness order No. 2, which would, if necessary, cut off especially outrageous people.
            Poles do not expect anything from themselves - to set fire to a neighbor is one thing. And to give shelter to the fire victims is unlikely ....
            Quote: retired
            Read at leisure Inosmi about the Maidan. It is something...

            EuroNews only made me laugh before hysterics ... wassat
      3. mrFix
        mrFix 24 January 2014 19: 28
        +1
        No need to listen to drunks, security officials are calm and carry out the order . And this episode is good https://plus.google.com/109396644938654979399/posts/fJsT5ckarKU.
  13. predator.3
    predator.3 24 January 2014 08: 42
    +4
    It may sound blasphemous, but in Kiev one cannot do without the experience of the "Maidan Tiananmen", or it will peacefully divide into east and west.
    1. family tree
      family tree 24 January 2014 10: 00
      +3
      Quote: predator.3
      or peacefully divided into east and west.

      A couple of months ago, it was possible to separate the zapadents, split in half and integrate into Poland and Austria, according to the tonsils. Those, of course, would have been indignant at first, but then they quickly organized the opposition, and there, either the silent ones stand quietly in the position of a drinking deer, or, if the response is weak, they turn their gyrus to the opposition, as a result, even so, the EU’s problem, Ukraine does not care. Only late now, they have already decided on the enemy and sent a gyrus there, so now, either the Ukrainian insiders put them in cancer, or they put Ukraine in cancer.
      1. densh
        densh 24 January 2014 13: 43
        +2
        Quote: perepilka
        and integrate into Poland and Austria, according to the glands

        The Austrians and especially the Poles, I think, do not need such a crap like these freedom-loving raguli for nothing. Masochists in power are not completely there.
  14. anarh
    anarh 24 January 2014 08: 43
    +6
    Poor, poor Ukraine.
    Tolerates for the older sister.
    And they press on her only because she is a sister.
    In order to senior elder.
    What a fun spree in the White House now.
    Everything is from there. Everything is from there.
    Maybe now in Kiev they will understand where the real vorog is.
    1. Algor73
      Algor73 24 January 2014 11: 44
      +3
      A long time ago in Kiev, they realized who the real enemy was. But the main enemy is that power is separated from the people by a fence - power in itself, people in themselves. But this is a prerequisite. The cause of the riots is the indecision of the authorities. She is waiting for something, waiting for someone's approval. And the longer it pulls, the worse the result will be. Need to enter an emergency. This is the only way out. We need order, and only then decide where we are, left or right.
  15. domokl
    domokl 24 January 2014 08: 45
    +8
    I agree with the majority of opinions .. The Rubicon has been passed and now only a forceful decision will stop this mess. It will be enough to sue. It’s time to apply the already existing articles of laws ... Apply quickly and harshly ... otherwise the infection of impunity will bring a huge amount of thugs of all stripes to the streets ... anarchy ... Klitschko and others like him are just dolls in the wrong hands. But you need to take dolls into ... a box ...
  16. Borman_ru
    Borman_ru 24 January 2014 08: 46
    +6
    Disperse immediately! Restore Order! Arrest the instigators!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 09: 13
      +1
      Quote: Borman_ru
      Disperse immediately! Restore Order! Arrest the instigators!

      Who are you now? Is this something that fainted from an egg laughing
      1. makarov
        makarov 24 January 2014 13: 44
        +2
        A man losing his face
        smelling fear
        essentially losing an egg,
        and there are only two of them.
        И.Г.
    2. Egoza
      24 January 2014 10: 33
      +1
      Quote: Borman_ru
      Disperse immediately!

      To date, 71 people have been detained by law enforcement agencies for participating in and organizing riots on Grushevsky Street, of which the court has chosen a preventive measure in the form of 36 detention. Consideration of other court cases is scheduled for the coming days, and hundreds are wanted. The longer the confrontation continues, the more offenses are carried out, the more criminal proceedings are registered in the Unified Register of Pre-Trial Investigations, the more people get into pre-trial detention facilities for flagrant violation of laws. In the event that radically minded individuals cease violent acts, arson, pogroms, resistance to law enforcement agencies and release Grushevsky Street, prosecutors will petition the courts to change the measure of restraint to a softer one for those already arrested, and the measure of restraint unrelated to arrest for those to whom she has not yet been chosen.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136583.html
      The City Department of the State Executive Service of the Uzhgorod City District Department of Justice seized the property of the People's Deputy from "UDAR" Valery Patskan. This Polemics was reported by the press service of the UDAR party. According to Patskan, the arrest was imposed pursuant to the decision of the Darnytskyi district court of Kiev. In particular, the Federation of Trade Unions of Ukraine applied to the district court with a claim for compensation for damages caused to the house. Losses are estimated at UAH 8 million. “Even the property that has not belonged to me for several years was seized. I don’t know what they were guided by when we made such a decision, ”the MP said. He added that the arrest was imposed not only on his property, but also on the property of his wife. “Now specialists are involved in everything. We will file claims, since I have not been summoned to any court. I don’t even know what the essence of the lawsuit is, ” - added Valery Patskan.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136513.html
      XXXX
      He does not know! Poor and innocent! The new law is in effect!
  17. major071
    major071 24 January 2014 08: 46
    +13
    Oleg Tsaryov, people's deputy of Ukraine of the VII convocation, deputy chairman of the Party of Regions:
    I urge Russia not to pretend that the problem does not exist. For twenty years Russia has not been engaged in Ukraine.

    I’m just wondering who for those 20 years yelled about Ukraine’s independence and sent Russia to hell, because everything was in chocolate. I agree that now the situation is different and Ukraine is on the verge of a civil war, but this could have been avoided. It wasn’t figs trying to pin down his jo (n) in two chairs - you still can’t sit. And as soon as the first person, at least somehow related to the power structures of Russia, enters the territory of Ukraine, such a high will rise in both the Western and Ukrainian media that the current government in Ukraine will not be happy. IMHO. hi
    1. shark
      shark 24 January 2014 09: 15
      +5
      I agree. If we position ourselves as a brotherly nation, then we must intervene and help at any rate. I am sure that we will intervene. Yanuk must hold out until mid-March. Until the Olympics are over. And after that I expect the security forces in the Caucasus to activate and our efforts in Ukraine will intensify. After all, our "partners" love to mix politics, sports ... They've even mixed up fagots. God, how they hate us.
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 24 January 2014 09: 27
      +3
      Good afternoon, Vova! hi
      Quote: major071
      And as soon as the first person, at least somehow related to the power structures of Russia enters the territory of Ukraine, such a high will rise in both the Western and Ukrainian media that the current government in Ukraine will not be happy. IMHO.
      Yes, of course. But curators of the Maidan also take this factor into account. It is no coincidence that an exacerbation was suggested under the Olympics. The main efforts of the Russian power ministries are concentrated precisely around its security. Tore off, so to speak ...
      How is winter flowing in the Orenburg region? I have here on the border of the Sverdlovsk region. and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area minus 40! Activated day-off !!! good drinks yes ... repeat
      1. major071
        major071 24 January 2014 09: 43
        +5
        Hi Yur! hi In the Orenburg region from -18 to -25, they promise to -35, I am also not at home right now, I left near Samara at night, where we got a car with a load. I escort from the SB, I sit in the cockpit, tormenting the laptop. drinks By the way, here andrei332809 came to me to work in Orsk, work works in 200 meters from my house, and as luck would have it in Samara, I left, and 0,5 remained not drunk. crying
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 24 January 2014 09: 56
          +1
          Quote: major071
          By the way, here Andrei332809 came to me to work in Orsk

          I look: the site contributes to making new friends! I also talked with Mikhailo on the phone. Now I'll write you in a personal ...
          1. family tree
            family tree 24 January 2014 10: 25
            +6
            Great, boyars!
            Quote: major071
            promise to -35,

            And we’ve already done it, now I’m sitting, I’m heating stoves, the benefit is vacation, I’m grieving crying, such a frost disappears in vain, wait for him in Kiev, all at once everything would calm down. Probably what
            1. Egoza
              24 January 2014 10: 39
              +3
              Quote: perepilka
              such frost disappears in vain

              We have minus 20, they promise -25 by the weekend. But the wind and high humidity will feel like -35
              1. family tree
                family tree 24 January 2014 10: 49
                +4
                Quote: Egoza
                But the wind and high humidity will feel like -35

                Hello, Elena! hi Maybe at least some hotheads will cool.
                1. major071
                  major071 24 January 2014 11: 00
                  +7
                  All the good days! hi perepilka - drinks , Fidget - love The main thing is not to freeze yourself, and some maydauns may benefit. laughing
  18. shinobi
    shinobi 24 January 2014 08: 53
    +11
    In short, Yanyk finished the game. His purely hohlyatsky desire to have the EU and the Russian Federation at the same time resulted in the Maidan. Now this sly ass is waiting for the security officials to run out of patience. And this will happen when the "Berkut" is killed or his family suffers. . Both Yanyk and the maydanutye do not understand that if they go according to this scenario, the power will be taken by the siloviki. And then the leaders of the Maidan and members of the government may even sit in the same cell.

    The wisdom of the people: When two dogs fight for a bone, a third drags it.
    1. Orik
      Orik 24 January 2014 09: 12
      +1
      This would not be the worst option.
    2. anarh
      anarh 24 January 2014 09: 17
      +1
      Quote: shinobi
      At the same time, Yanyk and the Maydan people do not understand that if they follow this scenario, the security forces will take power. And then the leaders of the Maidan and members of the government may even be sitting in the same cell.

      Not a bad option.
  19. shelva
    shelva 24 January 2014 08: 59
    +1
    Hated by the European Union, it will not stop just like that. If Ukraine does not want to end up at the bottom of the European wash, one should not be afraid to resort to "unpopular" methods of protecting its interests.
    For reference - even poor Latvians are closer to Europeans in their mentality, and Ukrainians in Europe - a garbage dump.
  20. anarh
    anarh 24 January 2014 09: 06
    +3
    A peaceful Olympics will not work.
    Too many people understand that this is their last chance.
    Already in active form, they went on a breakdown.
    They think Russia for me and hanged with the Olympics.
    That and with her if this is a weak spot.
  21. saag
    saag 24 January 2014 09: 06
    +1
    The feeling is if Yanukovych turns away from the siloviki, the siloviki turn away from him and the power transfers to Maidan-like
    1. densh
      densh 24 January 2014 14: 01
      +1
      Quote: saag
      The feeling is if Yanukovych turns away from the siloviki, the siloviki turn away from him and the power transfers to Maidan-like

      At the same time, Kuchma was blown up on the same mine. He messed with the security forces and they merged him with Yushchenko.
  22. pahom54
    pahom54 24 January 2014 09: 07
    +4
    My God, what is it to come to - to declare a boxer with his head completely beaten out by the interim president of Ukraine! ... What, pro-government and pro-Western forces already have no one to put in normal leaders ???
    Everything is supposedly going to collapse ... However, the same zapadentsy, though quietly, but hated both the Russians and the "skhidnyaks", but obviously did not act. Why? Because there was a strong hand. And now, if Yanukovych does not take tough measures, it will only get worse. I would not want the fraternal Slavic country to collapse ... In addition, it will be a victory for the pro-Western forces. However, if the collapse of Ukraine occurs, the Lna will turn from a state into two semi-colonies (I called it so mildly) - one - Western, and one - Russian-Belarusian, because these two semi-Ukrainians cannot survive alone ...
  23. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 24 January 2014 09: 08
    +3
    IMHO, Yanukovych should urgently bow to Moscow.
    Honestly, it is already poorly believed that he will be able to restore order on his own, even if he decides to take the most severe and radical measures. If it goes on like this, then the West will be able to win the second most important victory, after the Belovezhsky collusion.
    Those. sufficiently large professional forces are needed to resolve the situation, namely, Russian special forces and riot police. Ukrainian conscripts will not help here, but there are simply no other, however significant Ukrainian force formations like Berkut, as far as I understand.
    If you attract conscripts and the so-called. militia, there will be a sea of ​​bloodshed and a protracted civil war. And this is the Cuban leader of Ukraine, as a sovereign state. For Russia, the same lengthy operation, which will only contribute to the argumentation of foreign media, in spitting on Russia before the international community and lowering the Russian authority, which has been earned with such difficulty over the past few years.

    Of course, the international authority of my country worries me very much, but much more worries me about the bloodshed among the brothers of the Slavs.

    Western regions cannot be surrendered. Prompt and tough repressive measures are needed in relation to rampant nationalists / separatists. Otherwise, it will be a signal to numerous attempts of separatism in many regions of Russia. Those. restoring order in Ukraine is already becoming a domestic problem in Russia.

    ...
    Soo ... and vile, bastards, specialists at the Olympics guessed when things were already up to their neck!
  24. both s69
    both s69 24 January 2014 09: 08
    +3
    Yes, somehow all this is not good ... as if the BLOOD analogue of 1917 did not happen in a single country - Ukraine. The division of the now single (although Galicians hardly ever in modern history completely identified themselves with both the Ukrainian SSR and present-day Ukraine) states into 2 or even 3 parts cannot be avoided then.
    I remember when I served an urgent service, in an air defense training course in Zhitomir ("BUK" M-2), with surprise for myself (this was in Soviet times!) I noticed a sharp difference between the guys from Donbass and from Rovno. They do not contact each other at all! The former did not differ in any way from us "ordinary Russian boys from the RSFSR", only in a conversation they slightly soften the letter "g" with "rh"; the second, damn it, like policemen from movies: prickly, arrogant, tough; communicate only with their circle; in this respect, even Caucasians (not all) are somewhat reminiscent.
    In short, these are the memories that flooded. I was then (1988) in training "young", the impressions remained like that ...
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 24 January 2014 09: 31
      +3
      There will be no "in a single country". Such examples are contagious.
      It will be much worse, and not only in Ukraine, if you do not start urgently collecting an ass in the cam.
      1. zavesa01
        zavesa01 24 January 2014 10: 38
        +3
        For example, like Libya, Egypt. Syria scripts the same.
  25. Manager
    Manager 24 January 2014 09: 09
    +1
    I especially liked the homemade ballista and catapults .... Soon they will invent gunpowder)))
    But seriously, why do everyone prefer to learn from their mistakes and not from the examples of others?
  26. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 24 January 2014 09: 09
    +3
    Andrei Vajra, political scientist:
    I thought here, but do not the Kievans go to form the detachments of the self-defense and open the border in the second? Interestingly, only in Kiev, you can collect the "bayonet" for borba with Natsik?

    In order to be able to support the legitimate authority by creating self-defense units, it is necessary for citizens to have weapons in their hands. But the population is unarmed and defenseless precisely because the legally elected government does not trust its own population. As a result, the population blinks helplessly, and the authorities stumbled over holes, surrounded themselves with the police and demanded order in the streets from the people left to their fate.
  27. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 24 January 2014 09: 14
    +3
    The head of the law enforcement agencies intends to obtain permission from the head of state to pursue the toughest policy on radicals on the Maidan, according to the European police
    Yanukovych is pulling something .. Or he wants to start everything before the Olympics (so that the screech rises in the media) boycotting warships in the Black Sea .. The script is very familiar! Well, well .. It's not pure that here I feel everything is directed against Russia (this is revenge for Syria and the humiliation of Obama and the EU)
  28. veteran56
    veteran56 24 January 2014 09: 16
    +4
    I don’t understand what Yanukovych is afraid of? It’s impossible to stop the lawlessness by conventional methods. It’s time to bring in troops and "kill" Bendera. In the current situation, order can be restored only by force. This abomination is afraid of force. If we recall the Chechen and Ossetian-Georgian wars, then Ukrainian nationalists who fought against us on the side of the Czechs and Georgians. To reciprocate, I think, a sufficient number of our guys will agree.
  29. pensioner
    pensioner 24 January 2014 09: 16
    +3
    Something came to my mind the story of the election of the Pope in the bearded Middle Ages. Cardinals could not agree on a candidate. Well, they chose not only the quietest, but the terminally ill cardinal, who, by the way, all the while groaning and coughing, lay on a stretcher and walked by himself. The idea was this: let the rule until it dies, and during this time we will agree. As soon as this quietest became a dad, he recovered sharply, almost stinging in the mornings. From the quietest he suddenly turned into a terrible tyrant and quickly transferred all who chose him. Maybe Yanukovych also read about it ... repeat
    It's time to become a man, Victor! love
    1. densh
      densh 24 January 2014 14: 18
      +2
      Not a man Yanukovych, oh not a man. I then remembered the events of 2004-Severodonetsk, which Yanek merged. He started to support him later only because Yusch got everyone.
  30. Neophyte
    Neophyte 24 January 2014 09: 20
    +1
    It’s too late to put things in order! And no one will take responsibility. This had to be done 19-20.
    It seems that the Ukrainian authorities have missed the point of return.
  31. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 09: 22
    +12
    The blame for the "butch" in Kiev, and for arbitrariness in Western Ukraine, lies with Yanukovych and only with him! He had to deal with the country since 2010, when he took over as president. After all, after the rule of the "orange" it was not difficult and the population would have supported him. And he took up the business of his son on "cutting" the budget. Everything was not enough for him. Well, his subordinates did not lag behind. Look, because we "rule" in the courts, prosecutors, police, government procurement ... - everywhere 25-year-old pussies!
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 24 January 2014 10: 20
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      The blame for the "butch" in Kiev, and for arbitrariness in Western Ukraine, lies with Yanukovych and only with him! He had to deal with the country since 2010, when he took over as president. After all, after the rule of the "orange" it was not difficult and the population would have supported him. And he took up the business of his son on "cutting" the budget. Everything was not enough for him. Well, his subordinates did not lag behind. Look, because we "rule" in the courts, prosecutors, police, government procurement ... - everywhere 25-year-old pussies!

      Well, I agree well to blame Yanuk. What's next? War? It is necessary to live up to the elections and remove it in a legitimate way and only that way. By then, a new leader can grow. everything else is rebellion, rebellion, blood, war. And when everything blazes, everyone will have poher and Yanuk and his business with a cut and a cut.
      1. alone
        alone 24 January 2014 20: 02
        +2
        There must be a third force that has not been broken by Yanukovschina and the opposition. There must be such forces. The only way out of the situation is phased early elections. Otherwise, anything can happen.
        1. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 20: 20
          +1
          There must be a third force that has not been broken by Yanukovschina and the opposition. There must be such forces. The only way out of the situation is phased early elections. Otherwise, anything can happen.
          Where does the third power come from?
          1. es.d
            es.d 24 January 2014 21: 54
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir 70
            Where does the third power come from?

            Exported from Canada, USA, Germany? Some of the Baltic states did not speak the president’s native language. Pah-pah!
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man 24 January 2014 10: 21
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      The blame for the "butch" in Kiev, and for arbitrariness in Western Ukraine, lies with Yanukovych and only with him! He had to deal with the country since 2010, when he took over as president. After all, after the rule of the "orange" it was not difficult and the population would have supported him. And he took up the business of his son on "cutting" the budget. Everything was not enough for him. Well, his subordinates did not lag behind. Look, because we "rule" in the courts, prosecutors, police, government procurement ... - everywhere 25-year-old pussies!


      Yes it's sad.
      We also have enough of this "good".
  32. Hort
    Hort 24 January 2014 09: 23
    +2
    talked to one of my acquaintances from Kiev, a young man - about 23 years old, or something. So he is a mountain for the heroes of the Maidan. And there are many such students ...
    And you begin to explain to him that they are being led to the massacre - there is only one answer: we live better here, we are not for the EU, we are against rotten authorities, etc.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 24 January 2014 09: 29
      +3
      "Maydanuty" is already a diagnosis, it's like an epidemic ... I'm sure if Yanuca is thrown off and the same Klitschko or Tymoshenko, etc., are chosen. 2-3 years later the aggravation of the "maydanutyh" will begin again! Decay Ukraine from the inside .. It's like in Russia "the lost generation of the 90s", thank God, we have come to our senses!
    2. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 24 January 2014 09: 32
      +3
      And you begin to explain to him that they are being led to the massacre - there is only one answer: we live better here, we are not for the EU, we are against rotten authorities, etc.
      You are right, now they practically do not remember the association.
      1. Hort
        Hort 24 January 2014 11: 16
        +2
        yes, that's understandable. I even understand people's protests against Yanukovych. But when the protest develops into throwing lighters at the Berkutovites and an outright rebellion, it would be nice to think: "What are the boys doing, provoking the cops to retaliate aggression?" After all, when their boiling point comes, they will start pressing everyone indiscriminately. And, given what is already happening, a serious kneading may begin, following the example of the Libyan / Syrian / Yugoslavian ...
    3. Russ69
      Russ69 24 January 2014 15: 35
      +3
      Quote: hort
      talked to one of my acquaintances from Kiev, a young man - about 23 years old, or something. So he is a mountain for the heroes of the Maidan.

      Okay Kiev. I know one from Kaliningrad; today he and his company left for maydown. True, I was not surprised, he is Natsik finished.
      1. Hort
        Hort 27 January 2014 14: 27
        +1
        funny: Ukrainian Nazis hate Russians, in contrast to Russians, who are for "Slavic brothers". But here the brain is needed to understand this difference
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 January 2014 15: 39
      +2
      Quote: hort
      . So he is a mountain for the heroes of the Maidan.

      But what is HEROY maidan for? ”He threw the thousandth brick into Berkut or shouted loudest at Maidan.
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  34. ed65b
    ed65b 24 January 2014 09: 42
    +2
    Well, with whom will Yanuk take the city ??? There’s no army. Suppose Kiev fights off, the western regions declare disobedience to the center, three pigs move to Lviv or put up troops, block roads, disarm military units, half of the soldiers if not all go over to the new government and the officers too. What Yanuk will answer, the army is demoralized and collapsed, nothing and voila, the civilian began. And we have an Olympics that fuck will be no longer needed by anyone. Ukraine is not Georgia. There is no way you can bring order there in a week. And what statements come from the eastern regions and Crimea? The people are ready, waiting for the Fas team. Judging by the mood of the Three Piglets and they are ready. While Yanuk experts shook their hands from over the hill, they chose the most tough option.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 24 January 2014 13: 44
      +2
      Quote: ed65b
      the western regions will declare disobedience to the center; three pigs will move to Lviv or exactly put up troops, block roads, disarm military units, half of the soldiers, if not all, go over to the side of the new government, and officers too. What will Yanuk answer

      Why, now they are fighting by economic methods! ALL WESTERN UKRAINE-DOTATED! Eastern Ukraine feeds it! These three Bandera regions will die without state subsidies. Europe is not interested in feeding them, there is practically no industry there. That minuscule, which is produced in Western labor, is not needed in Europe, and Russia doesn’t need to be transported through Eastern Ukraine either. Here, in the East of Ukraine I don’t buy goods from Galicia. And without financing they will have a furry polar fox in their caches.
  35. lapo32
    lapo32 24 January 2014 09: 43
    +2
    Well, you don’t need to feel sorry for them, on the one hand, they have a GDP of 70% compared to the level of 90, they live terribly poorly, according to our doctors and teachers. who were there, but there are no opportunities for self-realization there, These are Donbass and Crimea. so they have a reason to provoke, but they won’t get any results, it’s necessary to change laws, strategy, survive difficult and troubled times like Russia
  36. 3axap
    3axap 24 January 2014 09: 44
    0
    Please note that someone in the comments. Russian. Belarusians. Kazakhs and one local. They are without interest. Or like it.
    1. Borz
      Borz 24 January 2014 13: 27
      +4
      I absolutely do not like it. Everything that has been said has already been said before, I don’t want to repeat it. The people are in the role of observers, since we were actually excluded from the process of confronting the pogromists. We are waiting for the authorities to take intelligible and adequate actions to localize the riot, and not fidget with one ass into two chairs. Apart from muttering that "the situation is under control" is not said or done nothing. There is a violent seizure of power in the country, so what the hell does a "constitutional guarantor" need to introduce an emergency ?!
    2. densh
      densh 24 January 2014 14: 41
      +3
      And also Soviet citizens meet. wink
  37. Wurger
    Wurger 24 January 2014 09: 46
    +16
    Oh. Well kindergarten. Rygorych would need 30-40 minutes to disperse this circus. This is the time of approach of the equipment from 120 motorized rifle brigade located on the outskirts of Minsk. Actually, five morons would be shot and the rest of the gang would have fled. And then the theater of the absurd. The crowd throws Molotov cocktails, and on the other side, the Golden Eagle, without an order, is forced to extinguish tanned fighters with fire extinguishers. Yankukovich rag. Power and power that can stand up for itself. And if this is not so, then God himself ordered it to be changed. Here already in the Western world some brigades form. In Ukraine, the paratroopers in the army left? Drop the landing and crush the centers of origin. What's happening? Yanukovych so managed that he can not give an order? Can not? Or does it really no longer control the situation in the country?
    1. Manager
      Manager 24 January 2014 11: 11
      +1
      Quote: Wurger
      What's happening? Yanukovych so managed that he can not give an order? Can not? Or does it really no longer control the situation in the country?


      Or maybe everything goes according to his scenario? U Didn’t think about it?
      Just really different nonsense. Which will throw at the mercy of his post, his feeder, his country ........ The humpback directly reminds ....
      So the conclusion .. Usa goes according to his plan.
      1. Wurger
        Wurger 24 January 2014 11: 23
        +3
        Say the plan. Whose? Washington regional committee? Yanyk at all? Puten may have his own plan, and then, according to the situation, Ukraine has no good at all. Damn, there was only a civil war in Ukraine for complete happiness ...
        1. Manager
          Manager 24 January 2014 11: 30
          +1
          Quote: Wurger
          Damn, there was only a civil war in Ukraine for complete happiness ...

          There is no other way out along the way. The inaction of the authorities and the wooed people are in a state of affect. A terrible mixture. It has already passed some countries. Only there did the authorities resist (in one country it still does). But not here. So this is power on hand.
  38. morpogr
    morpogr 24 January 2014 09: 53
    +2
    Got played in democracy. Now a handful of benderlogs points to the whole country. It's time to turn on rigidity and restore order or forget about the one and the indivisible and about what Ukraine did not die.
  39. saag
    saag 24 January 2014 09: 56
    +3
    Quote: ed65b
    and voila, the civilian began. And we have an Olympics that fuck will be no longer needed

    Yes, wars now begin during the Olympics :-)
    1. zavesa01
      zavesa01 24 January 2014 10: 59
      +1
      Here she is ... crap !! Any manifestations of Maidanism need to be crushed in the bud. BY ANY means and ways. All the same scenario, all the same performance when we already understand that society is being manipulated like monkeys in a circus. When we already understand that the principle of Rome "divide and conquer" from the shit..ma from the west is sucked in with mother's milk. You can not live with someone else's mind, especially such as in the West, where liberalism has grown into debi..zm. Ukraine you have brothers Slavs why do you need "friends" from the west who do not consider you for people. "At 3,14 to friends, at 3,14 to girlfriends, I'm 3,14 to myself, a published friend." Did we, during the Soviet era, sort out who is more important, did we humiliate each other, did we try to live at someone else's expense? What changed? Absolutely nothing, for example Belarus, they are our brothers. In everyday life, a Russian is indistinguishable from Belous, the values ​​are the same. Understand on your BLOOD the west makes its politics and economy. It's time to kick out ALL filth from the country. Welcome to the new USSR. (About the dangerous restoration of which in the territorial limits of the former is already openly discussed in the White House.)
  40. Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 24 January 2014 10: 04
    +2
    Yanukovych in white gloves style crushes, afraid to take off. Oh well. Jump, they will drive him into a wooden mac like Gaddafi and deal with the end. Waffle, not the head of state!
  41. Per se.
    Per se. 24 January 2014 10: 17
    +6
    "Kiev - the capital is on fire for the fourth day," ... the ship "Emperor" froze like an arrow. Distribute cartridges, Lieutenant Golitsyn, cornet Obolensky, pour some wine! ... We survived. If the authorities in Kiev do not disperse all this Bandera bastard, it is unlikely that it will "pass by itself." As for negotiating, here it is useful to recall the opinion of Pyotr Stolypin in 1905, no concessions during the riot, first putting things in order, after conclusions and reforms, otherwise, if you give a finger, they will bite off your hand, up to your neck. You cannot negotiate with those who have already trampled on the LAW and become a militant, a terrorist.
  42. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 24 January 2014 10: 28
    +4
    ... In Ukraine, from November 21, protest rallies continued, provoked by the government’s refusal to sign an association agreement with the European Union, the most massive rally taking place continuously in the capital ....
    The signing of the agreement by the government of Yanukovych-Azarov WILL NOT BE. So it’s not surprising that
    ... On January 19, the protest rally went into a hot phase, after the next popular council on the Maidan, clashes between protesters and the police began ...
    The seizure of government agencies, which began in the WestEnschine, takes place with the hot moral (and not only) support of the local population.
    And now, the leaders of the power structures of Lviv, Ternopil and other regions of UkrFrondy have a permanent headache - you can’t not react, since power of the crowd will lead not just to unrest, but to looting, open robbery.
  43. ed65b
    ed65b 24 January 2014 10: 40
    0
    People who know how the Crimean Tatars and the Mejlis react to this. It is interesting to know the opinion of not only Russian Crimeans.
    1. densh
      densh 24 January 2014 14: 44
      +3
      Quote: ed65b
      People who know how the Crimean Tatars and the Mejlis react to this.

      The Mejlis supported the Maidan and began to send people there. But part of the Tatars supported Yanukovych. In general, a split is also planned there. hi
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 24 January 2014 17: 56
        +1
        Quote: densh
        Quote: ed65b
        People who know how the Crimean Tatars and the Mejlis react to this.

        The Mejlis supported the Maidan and began to send people there. But part of the Tatars supported Yanukovych. In general, a split is also planned there. hi

        As always, the Tatars split in two. It’s bad that the Mejlis is for three piglets.
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  45. Egoza
    24 January 2014 10: 54
    +3
    Everyone, everyone - have a nice day! Sorry, not for everyone separately! Thank you for understanding and support! love hi good
  46. serge
    serge 24 January 2014 10: 56
    +13
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  47. Orakyl
    Orakyl 24 January 2014 10: 58
    +4
    I agree! the militants have already exhausted themselves and now they scratch their turnips as if to dump them without losing their bonuses. As they did not provoke the introduction of the emergency and Bergkut regime to severe suppression, nothing came of it. And then what? to poison the residents of Kiev with a burnout from tires? to expand the landfill on the Maidan?
    1. Egoza
      24 January 2014 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: Orakyl
      And then what? to poison residents of Kiev with a tire burnout?

      “Doctors warn that staying for 3-5 days in the burning center of car tires leads to the destruction of the lungs, according to the press service of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine.“ During the thermal destruction of car rubber, about 20 different groups of toxic substances are released, and, unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of them belong to the first or third class of toxicity. It is known that the products of thermal destruction of rubber contain a high amount of carcinogens. These are two main large groups - benzopyrenes and nitrosamines ", - said the chief specialist of the Ministry of Health on toxicology Boris Sheiman.
      He also noted that if a person breathes smoke from tires, then toxic pneumonia can develop on 2-3 days. It is dangerous because during 3-5 days it can go into a destructive form - lung tissue will be destroyed. According to the toxicologist, the use of a gas mask or respirator is enough to avoid damage and destruction of the bronchopulmonary system. A medical mask does not protect against toxic products of thermal degradation of rubber, especially if a person has been in a place of smoke for a long time.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-136564.html
      XXXX
      Berkutovtsev pity and residents of nearby houses. But THESE .... let them be etched !!!
  48. family tree
    family tree 24 January 2014 11: 02
    +3
    Oh, still drawn
    A petition is registered on the White House website asking Barack Obama to support the introduction of UN troops in Ukraine to stop the bloodshed. If within a month the petition collects 100 thousand signatures, the US government will consider it.

    “We, the people of the democratic world, cannot remain aloof from what is happening in Ukraine. We ask the US authorities to help Ukraine. In just two months, the Ukrainian government moved from so-called democracy to authoritarianism, ignoring millions of people on the streets of Kiev. According to the latest news, at least 5 people were killed in clashes between law enforcement officers and demonstrators. The country adopts ridiculous and outrageous laws that restrict the rights of citizens of Ukraine. The situation is getting worse. Civil war can begin at any time. We ask to introduce 5 of thousands of UN troops to Ukraine in order to stop the mass bloodshed and ensure peace and justice in Ukraine. ”

    In early December, a petition was published on the White House website requesting American troops to help in the fight against President Viktor Yanukovych. However, now it is not on the site.

    Note that if the petition does not gain the required number of signatures within the indicated period, it will be deleted.

    NATO needs to be asked fool , NATO troops, and you will be happy, Iraq and Afghanistan, in one bottle.
    "Well, take me!" E. Sparrow
  49. Stinger
    Stinger 24 January 2014 11: 03
    +1
    What is most striking is why the authorities did not block the entry into the country of instigators from the EU and the states, but blocked the entrance to Nemtsov. And in general, the actions of those in power are striking. For example, those that are commented by Kiev "... ologues":

    In Ukraine, on November 21, protests continued, provoked by the government’s refusal to sign an association agreement with the European Union,


    It would seem that write until you see what you wrote. Ah no.

    And where is the SBU? Or a state coup, the overthrow of the legally elected government, the killing of people in the center of the capital - this is not their prerogative, right?


    Voros for children. the experience of the USSR showed the price of these defenders. The SBU is not for the protection of U, but for the protection of I. Until I say, the SBU will not cross.

    The People's Rada of Ukraine was created in Kiev ... This means that the question of the personal responsibility of the "leaders of the opposition" for everything done at the long-awaited meeting could not be blurred. And because, no matter how in the morning they tried to postpone the decision, ranting about the fact that the authorities "made concessions", there was no option left. Either they send her to the registry office, or she theirs to the prosecutor. And he doesn’t want the prosecutor so much that even the Rabbit is ready for a “kick in the forehead”.


    So, guys, before you climb into the pit, think about how to get out of there. Now they will be shown to them by UNO.

    But after the participants in this "Euromaidan" showed themselves from the radical side, the European Union itself had to be the first to address these protesters, so that they removed the word "euro" from this name. Let them be called Maidan, but after what happened they can no longer discredit the EU so.


    The logs are the same everywhere. Now Maidan will cry and leave. Cleverly first vice president of the Center for Strategic Development Modeling must before, not after.

    Now, certainly, a rare bird will reach the middle of the great Ukrainian Yellow River.
  50. s1н7т
    s1н7т 24 January 2014 11: 03
    +1
    Painfully familiar scenario. What color was assigned to him in the West, I wonder? If it rolls - the spit in the Russian Federation is such that it will not be washed. I hope the "tandem" ones understand this or their own well-being is higher?