Russophobia: a disease or a destructive method?

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At one time, speaking at a meeting of the Public Chamber (OPRF), Russian television journalist Nikolai Svanidze said with extreme irritation that he had read the inscription “I am Russian” at one of the Moscow region fences. Nikolai Karlovich, as it turned out, was worried by the question: why can someone take it like this and allow himself to write the said phrase on the fence, and quote: “what did he do to be Russian?” (It turns out to be Russian, now you need not only to be born in a Slavic family, but also to do something special, so that such gentlemen as Nikolai Svanidze and his other like-minded people would give you this right).

A strange situation, strange questions that are suspiciously systematically raised in our society, and often become a sort of starting point for the situation in which society itself needs to be unified by all means, taking away from him not only national identity, but even the right to think about topic of their ethnicity.

Returning to the irritability of a famous TV journalist and a member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation, the very fact of how a process of national identity for any person can be turned into an object for very harsh criticism is striking. And the question here is not only about the mentioned Svanidze. This is a trend that is hard to miss. Note that the well-known public figure of Russia was outraged by the very fact that something is being written on the fences, but the text of the phrase “I am Russian!” Nikolai Karlovich would say about his irritability if he saw on the fence, for example , a well-known word of three letters, which is still more common on the fences of our latitudes than the phrase that was the reason for Svanidze to start talking about Russian fascism ...

History With the phrase and reaction to it from Mr. Svanidze, it happened about two years ago - some time after the print edition of the amazing Russian Language edition was signed, one of whose co-authors was Nikolai Karlovich.

Something over the past couple of years has changed significantly in Russia in relation to the concept of "Russian"? Yes - according to the Russian language textbook, thank God, our children do not study, but for the rest ... There are many gentlemen who believe that any mention of Russianness, Russian is a big step, towards ethnic chauvinism, certainly aimed at moral and other humiliation of representatives of other nationalities. Like, if you allow yourself somewhere to say (write) that you are Russian, then you are a priori fascist-anti-Semitic chauvinist of the upper level.

The logic, of course, is amazing ... Especially amazing, it looks in the context that about 80% of the Russian population is still Russian. It turns out that lately, the forces that are trying to force the absolute majority of the population of the Russian Federation, perhaps, to be ashamed of their ethnic origin, have become increasingly active. And despite the fact that the very word “Russian” has a much wider context. Russian is also a person who, by virtue of being associated with Russian culture, Russian traditions, Russian life, perceives himself to be Russian, although his ancestors had a different nationality. Russian is the perception of oneself by a person who lives and works in Russia and for the good of Russia, raises children, constructs and respectfully treats representatives of other nationalities, demanding a positive attitude towards himself. Let him be ethnically Chuvash, Yakut, Kumyk or Belarusian.

In this regard, it is extremely silly to talk about Russianness or non-Russianness, for example, Lermontov, Pushkin, Gogol, Aksakov. But there are people in our country today who are, let's say, amused by the search for “non-Russian” roots even among famous Russian historical figures. The goal of such “fun” is clear - to form such a “Russianness complex” among the public, or even a “Russian inferiority complex”, turning it into a starting point for achieving your own goals.

The count nationality at one time disappeared from our passports, as someone thought it was a move to indicate their ethnicity. Soon the registration data may disappear from the document, you cannot specify the gender in any of the forms. And this, they say, also moveton. In the end, people at the legal level are transformed, excuse me, into creatures that do not have to identify themselves either by gender, or by ethnicity, or by any other attribute. A sort of creature, which the heroes of the Zamyatin novel “We” (1920 year) could well have recalled, but those heroes even had sexual division ...

At this rate, we (thanks to the active “social activists”) may well lead to the idea that even the name of the country in which we live will be sinful to pronounce publicly, for it may offend, for example, a foreign citizen ... In this regard, it is clear where suddenly “Raski”, “Roissy” and other slang came from those who prefer the “Russian” language to Russian, and from those whom, you see, even the use of the word “Russian” is alarming, and even scares to trembling in the knees for some inexplicable reason.

So here. I would like to appeal to those people who, in their undisguised Russophobia, pass all imaginable or unimaginable boundaries: well, if you are a Russophobe, then make an effort to speak directly about it. They say, this way and that, the Russian nation and the people who refer to themselves as a bone in their throat, cause frank discomfort that turns into hostility. They say that it is in my interest that the word “Russian” disappear altogether. Why build oneself of “something” not subject to criticism, trying to use “clever speeches” with obviously far-fetched and frankly provocative theses to turn the prevailing worldview of other people?

Russophobia: a disease or a destructive method?


By the way, with considerable probability it can be argued that it was Russophobia, introduced from the outside and found fertilized soil within our country, did its dirty business of bloody fragmentation of the state in 1917 and 1991. As a fact: even today there are forces trying to repeat the success of their predecessors ...
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    1. +40
      24 January 2014 09: 29
      "It turns out that in recent years, the forces that are trying to make the absolute majority of the population of the Russian Federation, or something, be ashamed of their ethnic origin, have become increasingly active."

      One should not be surprised, the imposition of their opinion by the minority on the majority is a global trend, and this process is quite successful. He covered himself with his inferiority, "uniqueness." downtrodden and, voila, I could no longer touch you, you are unhappy, humiliated and insulted, you can carry all sorts of rubbish and stupidity.
      1. +17
        24 January 2014 09: 49
        Quote: Vladimirets
        You should not be surprised, imposing one’s opinion on the majority by the minority is a global trend, and this process is quite successful.


        Judging by the forum ikspertami and their all-prophetic posts, then water your country with bowel movements often based on lies, farting and half-truths loves a very large percentage of the population, and another percentage perceives this as the truth and also begins to spread it "not reflecting".... so it turns out that those who, in theory, should love their country, appreciate and desire it even a little bit, but better express their love through indiscriminate criticism of everything and everyone, and do not hesitate to call it "patriotism".
        And the fact that burnt buttons in the elevator, rudeness on the roads, garbage on the banks of the river, etc. annoys much more than another corruption case or a foreign trick of some national "servant" and makes you feel much more negative feelings towards a society in which you live, and therefore the country.

        So, national identity begins to grow with the simplest steps to change just yourself and your closest social circle ...
        1. +36
          24 January 2014 09: 57
          rightly said.
          in my house a year ago, put a new elevator.
          some scum (obviously one) killed him methodically day after day
          and now, looking at the elevator, you can’t say that it is almost new.
          In my opinion, such moral freaks are not so many, but they
          very noticeably affect the environment - actively crap.
          1. +8
            24 January 2014 13: 59
            Quote: yehat
            in my house a year ago, put a new elevator.
            some scum (obviously one) killed him methodically day after day
            and now, looking at the elevator, you can’t say that it is almost new.
            In my opinion, such moral freaks are not so many, but they
            very noticeably affect the environment - actively crap.

            catch and teach the mind ...

            we had an entrance repair 10 years ago, the mirrors were hung, the elevator was changed ...
            I personally thought that mirrors and weeks would not last ...
            but no ... mirrors and an elevator (true anti-vandal) are still alive ...
            but we don’t have anyone to break ...
            1. +4
              24 January 2014 21: 39
              We, as everyone has updated, so everything remains, probably it’s a pity to spoil the beauty ...
            2. 0
              30 January 2014 22: 22
              Quote: DanaF1
              vandal-proof

              laughing
              This is our way!
              I once showed a photograph of a new UAZ to an old (WWII veteran) Canadian.
              He smiled and said:
              "You Russians, what won't you do - a Kalashnikov assault rifle turns out!"
              This is vandal-proof!
          2. +8
            24 January 2014 20: 37
            Exactly these are now crap on the Maidan, but already
            more "active". And we need to learn from the mistakes of others and not allow such Maidans at home.
            And so I'm Russian both by nationality and social affiliation, like my friends who consider themselves Russian, and by nationality are Mordovians (and Erzya and Moksha), Chuvash, Buryats ...
            How far is the perception of the realities of this life
            common people and the life of the "powerful" of this world from the side of the latter. But such a gap inevitably leads to conflict (read the classics). And it's scary ... hi
            1. +2
              24 January 2014 22: 02
              For a freebie, some people love to spoil very much, until they realized that they were just meat, not even torpedoes.
        2. Fin
          +9
          24 January 2014 10: 03
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          Judging by the forum ikspertam and their all-propal posts, then a very large percentage of the population likes to water their country with feces often based on lies, perverting and half-truths, and another percentage of them perceives it as the truth and also begins to spread it "without reflecting" ...

          Pavel, I think you wrote a post for the wrong article. Everything is dumped in a heap. It's about Russophobia.
          1. +10
            24 January 2014 10: 33
            Quote: Fin
            It's about Russophobia.


            All-ringleaders and Russophobes - apples of one tree ...
            1. Fin
              +6
              24 January 2014 11: 36
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              All-ringleaders and Russophobes - apples of one tree ...

              Well, I crossed a snake with a hedgehog.
              1. +6
                24 January 2014 14: 04
                Quote: Fin
                Well, I crossed a snake with a hedgehog.

                I want to remind you that on the Maidan now ukrovseprosralshchiki, Natsiks, Russo and Slavophobes, the "creative class" - all in one formation ...
                1. +6
                  24 January 2014 14: 26
                  Danafxnumx
                  An excellent reminder - it’s somehow strange for me to sometimes read angry reviews about the Euro-mids of people who, in other comments, show themselves as ardent supporters of swampy all-wide slogans - but they are almost identical, and the real organizers of the swamp and maydaun are sitting in the same office. Where, one wonders, is logic? :)))
                  1. +3
                    24 January 2014 18: 50
                    Who pays a girl, that girl and dances. bully
                  2. -13
                    24 January 2014 21: 04
                    Quote: smile
                    ... the real organizers of the swamp and maydaun are sitting in one office.

                    Is it in the Kremlin or something ... In the Presidential Administration?
                    1. +12
                      24 January 2014 21: 50
                      Normal
                      Yeah ... that means you think that Putin organized the Germans, the daredevils, the bulk, the sausages, the tweets, the Novodvorsk, the pigs, etc., made them go to the American embassies, some to go to the USA and demand tough measures in speeches to the senators against Russia, to undermine Putin’s regime, he also made them receive, and the American side gave grants of thousands of 160 (or 120 — I don’t remember exactly, but look for laziness) bucks, forced the Americans to spend hundreds of millions to support our opposition through NGOs, moreover, Putin, not stopping there. created an orange movement in Ukraine and forced the Americans and Europeans to finance it .... scary to think - he created Bandera as well - he personally gave birth to Bandera ... from Joseph Vissarionovich ... IT IS GUILTY FOR PUTIN ... :)))

                      And here, some are googling about the world government ... what the hell is the government when, without Putin, the blade of grass on the Planet will not move .. did I understand you correctly? :))) Or maybe Putin personally hired you to push us into the idea that he is a superman abruptly than all BatmanOvs, along with spiders and iron lumberjacks? :)))

                      There is no limit to the perfection, diversity and virtuosity of your self-awareness ... :)))) I bow to you, the giant of thought and the father of analytics .... :)))

                      I would like to ask you - maybe you know the answer to the sacred question to the sentry - Who pisses at the corners of the headquarters tent and undermines defense? :)))
                  3. 0
                    27 January 2014 19: 35
                    Quote: smile
                    and they’re almost identical,

                    This "almost" is the line that distinguishes the "bogies" from the Maydauns.
                    Bolotniki do not care what will happen to the state - at least somewhere out there in the twilight of the soul and the fragments of the mind "for the state it is insulting."
                    And the maydaunas don’t give a damn about the state - they even seized the equipment instead of using it — as well as the Syrian bandyugan — stupidly burned it.
                    They have no sense of their own. No pity.
                    And this is not hohlushsky somehow.
                    They are aliens.
                  4. +1
                    30 January 2014 22: 29
                    Quote: smile
                    - But they are almost identical,

                    I think those will be more gloomy (not frightened laughing ).
                    Our guys didn’t pick the pavement, but didn’t set the cops on fire.
                    Intelligence, after all! bully
                2. 120352
                  +25
                  24 January 2014 15: 03
                  On the Maidan, they are either deceived or well paid, but by their roots they are Slavs and, oddly enough, Russians, of which they were able to dissuade them through deception. Russian people - Russian civilization - the holy trinity of Little Russians, Belarusians and Great Russians. And we have had Russophobia for a long time. Remember the work of the "leader of the world proletariat" "On Great Russian chauvinism"? He was not Russian, and from childhood, if you believe his own memoirs, he hated the Russian people. And then, some time passed and we were renamed into "Russians". This is despite the fact that before that there were Russian Germans, Russian Jews, Russian Tatars. And everyone who lived in our Russian country was Russian. Some, however, with an attribution. And the Russians had to be prestigious. It is not for nothing that Tatars by origin, who converted to Orthodoxy, the Yusupovs, Karamzin, Kara Murza by origin, the Dane Dal and many others, wanted to become Russians and became Russian. Russophobia is one of the means of destroying Russia. This was well understood by the authors of the present Constitution, obviously not Russian in spirit and conscience. In the Basic Law, we use the word "Russian" only ONCE in the phrase "RUSSIAN LANGUAGE". In it, I remind you, there is not a sound about the state-forming people, about the RUSSIANS. This is an anti-Russian, Russophobic constitution.
                  And by the way, what did Mr. Svanidze do to be a Jew?
                  1. kaktus
                    +3
                    24 January 2014 18: 43
                    Quote: 120352
                    What did Mr. Svanidze do to be a Jew?

                    some kind of operation? wassat
                    1. +2
                      24 January 2014 22: 26
                      Quote: kaktus
                      Quote: 120352
                      What did Mr. Svanidze do to be a Jew?

                      Quote: kaktus
                      some kind of operation?

                      The first Christians did this operation, but the Muslims still do it now ...
                  2. 0
                    24 January 2014 22: 08
                    or maybe he just hurt, but his character didn’t come out.
                  3. 0
                    30 January 2014 22: 40
                    Example: Wasserman is 300 times more Russian than Ryzhkov, Navalny, etc.
            2. +26
              24 January 2014 11: 39
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              All-ringleaders and Russophobes - apples of one tree ...


              They have such a job ... And among pederasts and among creaks and human rights activists and even nationalists, Under the guise of freedom and tolerance, to turn Russia and its people into a tolerant herd without historical and cultural values.

              fragment of a rally in St. Petersburg on February 4, 2012. Freedom of speech and assembly in all its glory.


              Russophobia will soon be taught to children if they come to power. Famous Russophobes Svanidze and Alla Gerber, President of the Holocaust Foundation, which is known for its Russophobic statements and denunciations in the infamous article 282, published such a textbook for the first class. heartburn and hate
              In an interview with the Novye Izvestia newspaper, Gerber stated that the victory of the Russian youth team in the world hockey championship would lead to "an increase in xenophobia and nationalism," and anti-Semitism is a genetic trait of everyone living in Russia. Also Alla Gerber repeatedly called on the Russian people to repent after the criminals of Nazi Germany.
              Hate Russian will teach in Tomsk

              1. +2
                27 January 2014 09: 35
                And probably in the textbooks the word Russian will be removed, they will write "-the Russian army bypassed the flank .." This is generally a tin, Kinchev still proyet "Here the word Russian is not quite watered, but the Russian is pure and concrete ..". "-Liberal backs got our moisture"
            3. +1
              24 January 2014 11: 40
              Sorry pressed accidentally minus instead of plus, sorry! hi

              and so agree! smile
            4. jjj
              0
              24 January 2014 14: 00
              I completely agree. Moreover, they are also "patriots"
              1. 120352
                +6
                24 January 2014 15: 07
                Of course they are patriots! Only not Russia! And their place in the ZONE, as traitors to the motherland.
                1. +7
                  24 January 2014 19: 53
                  Quote: 120352
                  Of course they are patriots! Only not Russia! And their place in the ZONE, as traitors to the motherland

                  Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich is not enough for them.
                2. 0
                  24 January 2014 22: 11
                  in the zone they will die morally
            5. +11
              24 January 2014 14: 25
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              All-ringleaders and Russophobes - apples of one tree ...

              Not quite so - not all "all-propals" are Russophobes, but all Russophobes are "all-propals".
              The main thing here is not to lose objectivity and a sense of reality.
              1. +1
                26 January 2014 18: 18
                [quote = Rakti-Kali] [quote = sledgehammer102]
                The main thing here is not to lose objectivity and a sense of reality. [/ Quote]
            6. -7
              24 January 2014 21: 45
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              All-ringleaders and Russophobes - apples of one tree ..


              For the time being, all the protagonists are repeating.

              That everything is fine - heaven in diamonds.

              That russophobes - those who think not so.

              Their speech murmurs like water ...

              Voditsa ...

              What's in the wombs of the toilets.
          2. +5
            24 January 2014 14: 02
            Quote: Fin
            It's about Russophobia.

            But is the sweeping oohlivanie all the achievements of the country-is not Russophobia?
            and rudeness in relation to the military and law enforcement officers-not Russophobia?
            ...
            and throwing garbage out of a car window is not Russophobia?
            1. Fin
              +6
              24 January 2014 15: 50
              quote = DanaF1] But is it really not Russophobia that the indiscriminate shouting of all the achievements of the country? and rudeness in relation to the military and law enforcement officers-not Russophobia? and throwing garbage out of a car window is not Russophobia? [/ quote]
              No need to think through. There are dictionaries for this, we discover: Russophobia is hostility or outright hatred of everything Russian: the mentality of the nation, its culture, language, statehood, the kind of xenophobia (rejection of foreigners and everything foreign), present in the public mind and information propaganda. ... ...
        3. 0
          24 January 2014 12: 00
          Putin about Russian
          1. +13
            24 January 2014 12: 37
            Quote: kris
            Putin about Russian


            Putin about the so-calledgus nationalists. Provocateurs who are they else. Here is an example on my video in St. Petersburg. a typical representative of "Russia for Russians" in a purple jacket and his "pep talk". Except as idiots you can not call such.
            And how did you comment
            Quote: kris
            Putin about Russian
            well done. Putin about Russians и Putin on "Russian" nationalists, as they say in Odessa, two big differences. Here is an example of a typical substitution of concepts. Yes, and I forgot to say more about the anti-Russian occupation regime. Which has plundered and ruined ... and further down the list from the army to its own elevator in the entrance.
            1. +22
              24 January 2014 12: 41
              A typical example of a Russian nationalist is the leader of the Movement Against Illegal Migration (DPNI).





              The leader of the Movement Against Illegal Immigration, Belov-Potkin-Katz (father - Katz Lev Moiseevich taught at a Jewish religious school; mother - Kogan Maria Abramovna was a housewife; stepfather - senior ensign Ivan Alekseevich Potkin) is a vile provocateur. This Belov-Potkin-Katz lives on Belkovsky’s money. Such is Russia for Russians! It has not grown together with internationalism, now the descendants of Trotsky are betting on nationalism.
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              2. -13
                24 January 2014 12: 52
                may be enough to distort.
                1. +24
                  24 January 2014 14: 58
                  kris
                  Oh yes, enough already grab onto the beaten card.
                  Old honored guy used blindly. And then the liberal media made an icon out of him. Kvachkov was going to arrange a small civil war with us. I understand. what he wanted the best ... but it would have turned out as always. Whom he and the boys. whom he would prepare to kill when seizing a weapon for which he was preparing? The boys who guarded these weapons. And then he would have to kill the guys from VV who would have been obliged to stop him. since their duty is to prevent the outbreak of civil war. A civil war against Putin’s regime would be welcomed by all our liberals, American comrades and North Caucasian militants. The latter would even happily help, because only in a situation where the Russians were busy killing each other, the bearded would have a chance of tearing away from Russia territories.

                  Of course, the uncle did not have to be planted, it was enough to conduct a series of preventive conversations. But stopping him was simply necessary. Otherwise, corpses would have appeared. The corpses of Russian patriots, faithful oaths and those boys whom Kvachkov or those who set him up, carried away the romance of fratricidal massacre and wanted to lead him to death ... and for the interests of those who long for the weakening and dismemberment of Russia. Probably the Albats. Nemtsov and anal would applaud them standing ... right at the gates of the American embassy. :)))
                  Sometimes you still have to think with your head and not with emotions ... sometimes I wonder why we are considered to be the standard ... for the surface thinking of blondes? Here you have the typical logic of a blonde from jokes. :)))
                  1. +10
                    24 January 2014 15: 59
                    Infrequently, the points of view coincide with the smile, but this is exactly the case. Civil war is a great danger for you, now is not the beginning of the 20th century, you simply will not be allowed to recover.
                    Well, it’s really not worth it to plant .... it would be better to have Nemtsov and Chubais planted
                    1. +1
                      25 January 2014 11: 20
                      Quote: Maverick78
                      Civil war is a big danger to you


                      And save yourself! hi
                  2. Fin
                    +4
                    24 January 2014 18: 18
                    Quote: smile
                    Oh yes, enough already grab onto the beaten card.

                    And there is nothing to add. Played on patriotic feelings and set up.
                  3. -7
                    24 January 2014 21: 30
                    Quote: smile
                    And the civil war against the Putin regime ...

                    Well done, Vladimir! Bull's-eye! Freudian slip. But here, as they say, "through the mouth of a baby" If there is a war against "Putin's regime" (by the way - your expression, and not those whom you brand here), then it will be civil, I would even specify - general civil
                    Further - cooler:
                    Quote: smile
                    ... the romance of the fratricidal massacre.

                    ??? Is there romance in your fratricidal slaughter? If you think about what you write, then you don’t need to go to the swamp either; hard to find anti-Putin propaganda
                    And here you are absolutely right:
                    Quote: smile
                    Sometimes you still need to think with your head, not your emotions.

                    And again I will add; this is necessary when writing comments. Yours are very emotional and clearly require reading by you, but on a cold head, otherwise it turns out that you have it
                    the typical logic of a blonde from jokes. :)))
                    1. +5
                      24 January 2014 22: 22
                      Normal

                      1. Namesake, I still would not recommend you to get involved in Freud - if you move, in each cactus you’ll have a dream ... :)))
                      2. The violent overthrow of the legitimately elected president of the country by forces controlled and financed by our geopolitical opponents, as well as by gangs of bearded shortcomings, supported in addition to the aforementioned also by religious fascists - Wahhabis, who naturally will support your like-minded people, like pederasts and Natsiks, only more effectively - with weapons in hand, it cannot but lead to a civil war ... unless, of course, geeks, fanatics and dangerous weak-minded barrranes and anarzists are not transferred ... I suppose. that we will transfer you. :)))) So, stop dreaming - there will be no bloody meat grinder of the civil war. :))) Your dreams will not come true. :)))
                      3. Sir ... where did you come from so naive? :))) Is it really unclear to you that the neophytes who are recruited to die for someone else's interests - for example, barranks - suicide bombers, or barrrans - neophytes-marshes talk about the romance of the revolutionary war most of the time spent on the recruitment process? Are you really so far from elementary knowledge? Maybe you don’t even know that both some North Caucasian gang emissaries and swamp recruiters actively use the image of Che Guevara when taunting young people? :))) I must admit that sometimes it’s even difficult to argue with you - you have to explain common truths first and it becomes inconvenient to kick you ... I see that you are not talking nonsense out of malice. but due to basic ignorance and inability to draw conclusions .... :))) Well. of course .. if you don’t pretend to be a down and brazenly do not lie., hoping that it will ... ... but I do not believe in this option ...
                      May I wish you good health? :))) And you can, I’m interested in how old you are, huh? And then I don’t even know how to explain your statements ... there are several options ... but I would like to know more precisely ... :))) So how old are you? You can tell not the exact number, but + - about five years, if you’re afraid of something ... sorry, but people like you are often afraid of various harmless things, they happen. :)))
                      1. -3
                        25 January 2014 00: 07
                        Quote: smile
                        Namesake,

                        Well, accept the answer on points
                        1. It’s not scary - you’re not interested in a cactus or in any form at all. Despite persistent and unambiguous hints of pro-power, I remain a persistent heterosexual. So just not in the fence. laughing
                        2. Where and when did you see my calls for the violent overthrow of the government? I have written many times that I consider street protest to be the only way at the moment to somehow bring the authorities to life. At least somehow draw attention to the problems, at least somehow express their disagreement with the actions of the authorities. I have never written that a street protest should be armed violent or simply pogrom. In response, I read: "Nazis!" "liberals!" "Homosexuals!" "Swamp Orange!" "on the maintenance of the State Department!" and other swearing. Now you have decided to raise the degree and move on to a new battle, the "civil war", "romantic meat grinder" and other YOUR PERSONAL insinuations attributed to the opponents of the GDP have started. In the end, optimistically -
                        we will transfer you. :))))

                        MYSELF legs do not trample in the heat and passion.
                        The policy of the power you are protecting will lead to the fact that sooner or later Caucasians will come to you too. Not all of them can be unlimited in Moscow, Kaliningrad is also a good city. To import Asians more, build mosques and it will be possible to talk about Russian Nazi-fascism, scrapbooks, and friendship of peoples
                        3. From there, from where everything wink Do not flatter yourself, you are no less naive than those whom you think are.
                      2. +2
                        25 January 2014 01: 59
                        Normal
                        Vladimir, I’m happy that Freud’s fascination hasn’t completely finished you yet .... :))) So you are strong enough to resist the corrupting influence .... well, of your beliefs :))) .... say thanks to your mom and dad%))) And you know, honestly, if you were to speak on the case, and not try to engage in personal useless personal showdowns, I would answer you, point by point ... and so ... what to answer? :))) What for? It does not matter.

                        And those bad people who want to follow in the footsteps of the maydaun, and just like their colleagues, want to transfer a quiet paid mess to a mess with blood - we will definitely transmit. You can be sure of it. :)))
                      3. -4
                        25 January 2014 00: 08
                        Quote: smile
                        Frankly, it’s sometimes difficult to argue with you

                        What?! WHAT???! Difficult to argue ?! Is THAT what you call "arguing" ?:
                        supporters of swampy all-industry slogans ... pederasts and Natsiks ... geeks ... weak-minded barrrans ... Natsiks ... homosexuals ... screeching in a swampy ... spiritual Maydaun brothers ... Pederastic lobby ... by Natsiks .. analogue of maydaun ... petty fascists ... homosexuals ... our Natsiks ... Jews ... Natsiks ...

                        Yes, if you remove the "swamp" from your posts, which is not relevant for a long time, the Natsiks, the number and significance of which you exaggerate a thousandfold, homosexuals - your favorite topic, barrrrans and other curses, as well as your insinuations about the civil war, the collapse and disintegration of Russia, the romance of bloodshed and other indecency, then from most of your posts only pretexts will remain. Where is the dispute?
                        Quote: smile
                        And you can, I wonder how old you are, huh?

                        Can. Take an interest.
                        Quote: smile
                        And then I don’t even know how to explain your statements ... there are several options ... but I would like to know more precisely ...

                        Try to imagine - life experience. Maybe from your point of view it is not sufficient, not true, and generally not correct. But what it is. You can keep your options with you, because with your vocabulary and imagination I don’t expect anything good from them.
                        Quote: smile
                        So how old are you?

                        This year will be (possibly) 50
                        Quote: smile
                        but people like you

                        Do you know me well?
                        Quote: smile
                        often afraid of various harmless things they have.

                        For example, unemployment or the dominance of Caucasians with Asians?
                      4. +2
                        25 January 2014 02: 10
                        Normal
                        Vladimir, share a secret - how can you draw such great comments, the meaning of which is three and a half letters? :))) I understand this is talent .... but to answer something? I’m not used to trifling up so much ... so that you can calm down even agree with you - I’m not good, you’re not afraid to tell your age, but you are rightly afraid that suddenly a bloody gebnya for that age will catch you, I don’t know you and I’m not able to comprehend .. .this. by the way. true:))) .... add - and I do not want to know. :))) you can give me a minus. :)))
                        May I ask another question? why did you write these two comments? What is the purpose? I'm really curious ....... personally, I am always ready to answer a similar question ... although ... given that you are even afraid to say your age .... :)))
                        Okay. Bye.
                      5. -1
                        25 January 2014 03: 20
                        Quote: smile
                        Vladimir, share a secret - how can you draw such great comments, the meaning of which is three and a half letters?


                        No secret. I am writing what I think and know, and if you take the absence of abuse and abuse as meaningless, then I can not help you; each understanding is to the extent of his depravity.
                        Quote: smile
                        . although ... considering that you are even afraid to say your age ...
                        Yes ... to see a few days in a sober state did not go to good.
                      6. 0
                        25 January 2014 04: 39
                        Normal
                        1. Accepted. Indeed, I have nowhere spoiled further. :)))) I serve as a prototype for Vovochka ... :))))
                        2. Accepted with pleasure. :)))) The stump is clear, if I do not agree with you, it is to blame for the fact that I had a holiday last week, or that I did not have it in the week ... . :)))) You are indescribable! :)))) And tomorrow I have Sabantuy in the evening ...... can you imagine? And of course - I’m not only not hostile to alcohol ... I also smoke ..... and finally, even though I don’t play cards, I’m not indifferent to women ... :)))) can you imagine the scope for your revelations? :)))) Go ahead, dawn towards! :)))
                        Listen, or maybe you’ll still tell me, how old are you .... well, approximately .... :))) Okay, don't be afraid, I won’t tell anyone .... :))))
                        Oh, damn it, I’m afraid if my 89-year-old grandmother would know about you and your argument about alcohol, she would start to feel sorry for you as flawed ... my grandmother is like that - she’s harsh like the whole of Chelyabinsk and tough like a blade with a dirk of an officer of the USSR Navy .... but sorry for the poor ..... :)))) In April, she will be 90, ask your mother, maybe she’ll let you drink a stack for a granny who has experienced as much as God forbid, the reconnaissance agency has been able to test the database for a year ... .and if your mother permits - be sure to drink - my granny is worthy. :))))
                        Good luck ... :))))
                      7. -3
                        25 January 2014 08: 41
                        smile
                        Explain and fool around further, take a break and make faces, maybe this is your only talent, but do not touch my age because, judging by your vocabulary, behavior, incontinence and frank gopnichestvo, you are still a minor (if not by age then by the level of mental development) compared with me
                        Quote: Normal
                        This year will be (possibly) 50

                        You will joke on my parents
                        Quote: smile
                        . Thank you to your mom and dad%)))

                        Quote: smile
                        if your mom will allow

                        (And my father, a former prosecutor of one of the three districts of the city of Togliatti, is already in the best of the worlds) You will learn a lot of new and sad things about your beloved grandmother.

                        Till...
                      8. 0
                        27 January 2014 08: 15
                        "Clarify and act like foolish things further, gap and grimace, perhaps this is your only talent"

                        Judging by the comments - the way it is!
                    2. +1
                      24 January 2014 22: 29
                      cooler than Putin has not yet prepared and expresses his thoughts well, in contrast ....
                  4. acute
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                    27 January 2014 10: 37
                    how simple it is. And where are the officers and soldiers who swore allegiance to the Soviet Union. They did not take the oath ?. Stop talking. He who pays money orders music. Kvachkov did as he saw fit. This power cannot be changed otherwise. Well, there are no such mechanisms. they are too long and ineffective. It is such laws that the authorities adopted to ensure their safety.
                2. 120352
                  +10
                  24 January 2014 15: 16
                  Kvachkov is an honest Russian officer!
                  1. +11
                    24 January 2014 15: 59
                    120352
                    And what am I saying, a hundred dishonest, that non-Russian? Supplement - also deserved. If he limited himself to red. I would not blather. And so ... I believe that he was honestly mistaken and believed that if he does what the guys like Udaltsov, bulk and others like them want, then Russia, plunged into the chaos of the civil war, will become happier from this .... sorry for my grandfather , but the fact that in fact he was going to act in the name of a change of power, for which Novodvorsky, Svinidze, Ksyusha and other Chirikov are so eloquent, can not but suggest.
                    This is a serious mistake of an honest Russian officer who, in fact, sided with the above characters.
                    1. +3
                      24 January 2014 16: 42
                      When did Kvachkov become an icon of liberal media? Whether you are mistaken, then do not talk about what you do not know. Or deliberately lying.
                      With these people - "Novodvorskie, Svinidze, Ksyusha and other Chirikovs" - not Kvachkov, but Putin meets, handing out awards to them. How he shed tears at the funeral of Gaidar, Sobchak, Yeltsin. What posthumous eulogies he wrote to them. "... an outstanding statesman ... a patriot ... an honest man ...". Not Kvachkov, but Putin introduced the 282nd "Russian" article.
                      So, as they say, flies separately and cutlets separately. Putin, Chubais, Svanidze - that's all. And Kvachkov is ours.
                      1. 120352
                        +2
                        24 January 2014 17: 06
                        You apparently read inattentively. Nobody ranked Kvachkov as liberals.
                      2. +2
                        24 January 2014 18: 36
                        virm
                        :))) Oh, come on ... the patriotic pathos of the one who shares the fiery dream looks funny, and accordingly is like-minded "Novodvorsk, svinidze and other chirikovs".

                        Yours are those whose slogans you share, yours, those with whom you shout slogans shoulder to shoulder in the swamp, yours are those who have already organized a civil war with us, and who were so fiercely supported by those who are most actively yelling now - "Putin go away" - we are talking about the bearded - after all, all the ideological inspirers of the swamp, like the woman Lera, are their passionate admirers .... and ours - who pressed them all and will crush them. Therefore, there is no need to talk about your gourmet inclinations - you are omnivorous and do not even feel the taste of what you consume ... :)))

                        If your pathos have not diminished, please list the real opposition leaders, the real ones who are leading our maydaunas. Write them in a column. :))) Next, attribute to everyone their brief opinion about Putin - they often talk about this at rallies. Then you can do the same with their ideologists, Belikovsky, Svanidze, Novodvorskaya, etc. then look at what happened, re-read carefully. write under the resulting your last name, think and write. what do you think about Putin ... :))) if the hand does not flinch ... :))) and then think about whose they are mine, or yours? :)))
                        I beg you, do as I ask you, okay? :))) Just because you are not able to realize which side you are on, you have to do it like this ... on your fingers ... :))) Only. please be honest when doing this exercise at least with yourself. :))) Before me it is not necessary - I will forgive. :)))
                      3. -2
                        24 January 2014 20: 00
                        What do I think of Putin? Putin is a Russophobe.
                        He imprisoned, on far-fetched charges, Russian officers - Kvachkov, Khabarov, Arakcheev, Budanov. He made Kadyrov an academician and hero. According to Article 282, he imprisoned thousands of Russians.
                      4. +2
                        24 January 2014 22: 42
                        virm
                        You forgot Khudyakov ...... or, for example, Ulman, in whose place there could be many ... for example, I. The Ullman case in this case is most revealing, I highly recommend that you take an interest.
                        And if you think that when they put guys in the name of expediency. I like it, then you are mistaken.
                        But the statements that Putin is a Russophobe .... It is strange when, because of the incidents you mentioned, you personally become in line with the worst enemies of Russia and the Russians who are most actively discussing this topic - those who are paid by our geopolitical rivals, those who those who declare that there is nothing wrong with dismembering the country across the Urals, those who believe that we need to "let go of the national republics - they say it will be easier for us without them" ...
                        Let your mind accept my condolences - he probably spins in his grave, listening to what his former owner is carrying .... and his conscience quietly, hiding under the bush, frantically baptizes, rejoicing that she left you in time, because otherwise she would have it was excruciatingly painful ...
                        Goodbye.
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                      6. +2
                        24 January 2014 21: 28
                        Quote: smile
                        Before you do not need me - I forgive. :)))

                        You can forgive children, but this adult undergrowth, or overgrown, you need to teach such a stick
                    2. 120352
                      +5
                      24 January 2014 17: 03
                      And you believed in a fairy tale and about "Redhead", whom he, as a professional, would have dared without a trace. And his, and Red. Or a fairy tale about how he went to take Moscow with slingshots (crossbows, not even spears) ?! It's all nonsense. He was not a complete nerd to do such stupid things. We want to introduce him to his enemies, against whom he spoke at rallies, prompting people to think. That's all his activity.
                      1. +4
                        24 January 2014 17: 21
                        120352
                        The court acquitted him. But if he banged the redhead, or at least tried, I would not have any complaints against him, because I would be in solidarity with him.
                        Forgive me, I do not believe that he prepared the guys for action in the conditions of the NATO occupation. His personal statements on this subject look .... unconvincing. And before it was closed, he was practically unknown to anyone. There was not the slightest sense to plant him, because if he limited himself to words, he did not represent, and could not pose, the slightest threat to our state. What kind of enemies could he have?
                        By the way. I have not heard a single negative statement about the real enemies of Russia, wandering around the enemy embassies and funded by the Americans, trying to arrange a maydown analogue on the swamp .... and their whole elite are real Russophobes.
                      2. 120352
                        +1
                        24 January 2014 22: 44
                        The court acquitted him for a period of 13 years. The fact that before landing he was not known to you does not mean at all that he was not known to anyone. Do not identify with everyone. This is a sign of mania. Judging by your text, you have no idea about the personality being discussed T.ch. sorry. Talking with you is nothing more.
                      3. +3
                        25 January 2014 02: 37
                        120352
                        Sorry, but I have to tell you that you, as a supporter of Kvachkov, should have a better understanding of what he was convicted of. He was acquitted on charges of attempting a red-haired man and convicted on charges of organizing armed rebellion and terrorism. Last summer, the Supreme Court reduced the term to 8 years - just don’t say you didn’t know ... therefore, how should your words be regarded? How is intentional misrepresentation?
                        But in the end I want to say the following. Nothing else but an attempt to bang the redhead, I can not even explain these 8 years. Kvachkov did not pose such a serious threat to the state, despite the undoubted danger of a civil war. Well, what could he do? fishing and losing a few dozen people. All. Of course, Russia would not get better from this. But I can only explain such a severe period of time by the fact that, 1. He tried to threaten Redhead and did not forgive the redhead, using all his influence for punishment. 2. On the example of Kvachkova showed. that even honored people can be seriously punished. if they want to make a banana republic of Russia. where it’s possible to kill innocent loyal oaths of boys with impunity just because it seemed easier to anyone to achieve an ideal society.
                        I repeat, my grandfather was put in vain, it was possible to limit himself to detention and a number of preventive conversations. It’s not so difficult if you have a goal ...... But I draw your attention to the fact that neither you nor I have seen the case materials .... and I fully admit that there is information there that would lead to toughening my position, although it will be difficult to convince me of that. what exactly is the redhead involved in such a term.
                    3. +1
                      24 January 2014 22: 32
                      does not fit. such an Akella would not be able to miss. which means someone said "meow". that's all.
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                3. +16
                  24 January 2014 17: 55
                  Quote: kris
                  may be enough to distort.


                  you distort it. when you attribute Putin's words about those who shout "Russia for the Russians" to the entire Russian people. Nationalism is love and respect for one’s own people, not hatred of foreignerswhich is inherent in the slogan itself. How will we define Russians? On the maternal side or on the paternal side. Can it be according to the structure of the skull or halachic laws? So Russia is only for the Russians. And who else considers it part of Russian civilization at the door or to the inferior registry? In Ukraine, the slogans of nationalists are being carried out right now. Yes, so look soon the country will fall apart, starting from the Crimea. All the people who spoke Russia to Russians as Skobelev and the Emperor were just interested in preserving the Russian idea in the form of Orthodoxy, autocracy and nationality. And they fought with the dominance of foreign agents, influencing under the authorities and higher circles of society. This was part of the struggle between the Slavophiles and the Westerners. And now, taking the words of Putin out of the context and also from the context and historical conditions, choosing the words of the great Russian figures, one can create another hurray - a nationalist fake.
                  But with the fact that in Russia must have Russian power (I can tell you the difference between Russia for Russians and Moscow for Muscovites) for which Alexander 3 and Skobelev fought the same. Dostoevsky said without a fifth column of oligarchs-compradors, Russophobic politicians and the media. Power based on the eternal Russian principles of justice and sovereignty, where all peoples will take their rightful place with the Russian STATE-FORMING people (according to the same Constitution where this is not), this is true NATIONALISM. And I am a supporter of just such nationalism. Therefore, I support Putin in that he criticizes the nationalism imposed on us by Western political technologists and criticizes him that he does not take any steps towards my perception of nationalism he stopped the country from sliding into chaos according to the Ukrainian scenario, but does not want or cannot do anything to really lead it out of the liberal swamp to Russian state traditions. And your goal is only to overthrow Putin, so that the country slides into the chaos of fratricide because nothing else can come of this at the moment. What would happen if the Kvachkovo officers, having killed the Russian cops and the military, established a dictatorship with unclear political goals and ideology? It’s impossible to come up with a better gift for the West to establish external control and control over nuclear weapons ... I would understand terrorism in relation to obvious bastards like Chubais, but for some reason he didn’t grow closer to Chubais despite serving in the GRU. But the thieves calmly robbed his house. Means correctly speaks nationalist Belkovsky
                  These are active people who make up the absolute social base of the new government.

                  That's all your essence with Yarosvet and other image uploaders
                4. 0
                  24 January 2014 22: 22
                  chubais pawn so you
              3. +13
                24 January 2014 13: 03
                The ideologist of Navalny Belkovsky admits that Russian nationalism is his project.



                One of the spiritual mentors of Russian nationalism, political scientist Stanislav Belkovsky, on the air of Ekho Moskvy radio station, openly outlined the “opposition” program
                link
                “The opposition’s program is clear. I can formulate it now
                First. Parliamentary republic - we need to move from a presidential republic to a parliamentary one, because otherwise we will not leave this vicious circle of corruption and ossification. Perhaps she should be veiled in the form of a constitutional monarchy, because the Russian people love historically beautiful and legitimate power.
                E. GEVORKYAN: Oh, well, I immediately want to find out who the personality will be?
                S. BELKOVSKY: Prince Harry will be personally, the youngest son of the Prince of Wales Charles, because it can be proved, and I undertake to prove it, that he is the legitimate heir to the Romanov dynasty.
                - We will subordinate Russia to the British crown and its sponsor Jewish capital.
                Second. Diversification of the economy. It should be not only raw, but also transit - this is achieved in several years by building a high-speed railway between Vladivostok and Rotterdam, which will increase Russia's share in the transit of goods between Asia and Europe by 100 times from the 0,2% that now exists to 20% -
                In addition to the raw materials appendage, we will also make Russia a transit route for uninterrupted servicing of the West
                Third, amnesty. 500 thousand people must go free. These are active people who constitute the absolute social base of the new government.
                - The bandits of the nineties will form the basis of the new Khazaria-Russia.
                And finally, the main thing that should happen is liquidation of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Moscow Patriarchate as a legal entity, and its transformation into a confederation of independent parishes. All this is the opposition’s program, which will be supported by millions. ”
                .

                The main task of Yarosvetov, Kris and other normal all-spreads on this website is to prepare in the minds of protest sentiments against the occupational anti-Russian Putin regime, creating those millions of which Belkovsky speaks, they, on the wave of protest and populist slogans, without realizing it, will ensure the coming to power in Russia under the guise liberals or nationalists of the new world "international".
                1. 120352
                  +6
                  24 January 2014 15: 25
                  Understand yourself. You have every subsequent paragraph contradicts the previous one. As for the Russian Orthodox Church, this is the only Russian institution that rallies Russian civilization, and those who organize a campaign of slander against it and demand its dissolution actually want to destroy Russian civilization.
              4. 225chay
                0
                24 January 2014 14: 26
                Quote: Ascetic
                This Belov-Potkin-Katz lives on Belkovsky’s money. Such is Russia for Russians! It has not grown together with internationalism, now Trotsky’s descendants are betting on nationalism.


                So! In general, everything is clear with Belov-Potkin-Katz!
                Such as They set Russians on Caucasians and vice versa, with the aim of fomenting war!
                1. 120352
                  +12
                  24 January 2014 15: 20
                  Something you distort. The Caucasians themselves are setting Russians against Caucasians when they behave boorishly, neglecting our rules and customs, bullying Russian people, etc. No provocations, agent Maskhad 225Chay
                  1. 225chay
                    0
                    24 January 2014 17: 45
                    Quote: 120352
                    No provocations, agent Maskhad

                    The main thing is that you believe yourself))))))))
                    1. 120352
                      +3
                      24 January 2014 22: 49
                      You do not seem to live in Russia. And I live in this and see everything myself, so I don’t believe in that, I know that!
              5. -6
                24 January 2014 21: 11
                Quote: Ascetic
                ! Internationalism has not grown together, now the descendants of Trotsky are betting on nationalism.

                It is only that on TV there was a program about Trotsky which stated that the creator of the Red Army L.D. Trotsky PERSONALLY drew up the text of the oath, which the officers took until the collapse of the Union.
                Ascetic, is that so? Did you, as a former officer, take the Trotskyist oath? Are you a Trotskyist?
                1. +6
                  24 January 2014 22: 01
                  Quote: Normal
                  Did you, as a former officer, take the Trotskyist oath? Are you a Trotskyist?
                  First, do not believe everything that is said "on TV". Second, there are "former officers", and there are reserve officers. Feel the difference. Third, are you a provocateur?
                  1. -4
                    24 January 2014 22: 26
                    Quote: colonel
                    First, you don't have to believe everything they say "on TV.

                    Therefore, I ask a very competent and informed commentator and moderator if this is true.
                    Quote: colonel
                    Second, there are "former officers", and there are reserve officers.

                    Do not find fault with the words. I agree - I didn’t put it correctly (there are no former officers if these are really officers), but you understand what is meant.
                    Quote: colonel
                    Feel the difference.

                    I don’t need to teach me, otherwise I can remind you what the soldiers were called (and probably still are called) officers.
                    Quote: colonel
                    Third, are you a provocateur?

                    And you?
                    1. +2
                      24 January 2014 22: 32
                      Quote: Normal
                      I don’t need to teach me, otherwise I can remind you what the soldiers were called (and probably still are called) officers.

                      Have you served military service in the armed forces of the Russian Federation?
                      1. 0
                        25 January 2014 00: 13
                        Quote: Setrac
                        Have you served military service in the armed forces of the Russian Federation?


                        Yes. So what?
                      2. +1
                        25 January 2014 00: 34
                        Quote: Normal
                        Yes. So what?

                        To know, about the officers you yourself know, or from others have heard.
                      3. -4
                        25 January 2014 01: 07
                        Quote: Setrac
                        To know, about the officers you yourself know, or from others have heard.

                        Learned. Feel better?
                      4. 0
                        25 January 2014 02: 45
                        Quote: Normal
                        Learned. Feel better?

                        It’s hard.
                        Here in Russia, we have a strange attitude towards the police, "cops are ko3ly and so on", but they immediately shout like a wolf in "Wait a minute"
                        - Militia !!!
                        Are you also one of those two-faced, bad people? What officers didn’t please you?
                    2. +7
                      25 January 2014 05: 45
                      Quote: Normal
                      Therefore, I ask a very competent and informed commentator and moderator if this is true.

                      Not true, and frankly stupid and provocative.
                      Trotsky's oath of 1918-1939. Since 1939, the oath of Stalin, which came with changes to the collapse of the Union.

                      Then the "Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army" was replaced by "Armed Forces", and the "Workers 'and Peasants' Government" was replaced by "Soviet". In 1977, the oath included the obligation "to comply with the USSR Constitution and Soviet laws."
                      1. +4
                        25 January 2014 06: 03
                        The oath of the Red Army during the Civil War
                        April 25, 1918. The All-Russian Central Executive Committee approved the text of the military oath titled "Formula of the solemn promise":
                        "1. I, the son of the working people, a citizen of the Soviet Republic, accept the title of a soldier of the workers 'and peasants' army.
                        2. In the face of the working classes of Russia and the whole world, I undertake to wear this title with honor, to conscientiously study military affairs and, as an apple of my eye, to protect national and military property from corruption and theft.
                        3. I undertake to strictly and steadily observe revolutionary discipline and unquestioningly carry out all the orders of the commanders set by the authorities of the Workers 'and Peasants' Government.
                        4. I undertake to abstain myself and to keep my comrades from all sorts of acts that defame and degrade the dignity of a citizen of the Soviet Republic, and direct all my actions and thoughts towards the great goal of liberating all working people.
                        5. I undertake, at the first call of the Workers 'and Peasants' Government, to come out to defend the Soviet Republic from all dangers and attempts on the part of all its enemies, and in the struggle for the Russian Soviet Republic, for the cause of socialism and the brotherhood of peoples, do not spare neither my strength nor my life .
                        6. If, by malicious intent, I depart from this solemn promise of mine, then may universal contempt be my lot and may the stern hand of the revolutionary law punish me "

                        So before writing nonsense about FORMER OFFICERS-Trotskyists, you should at least open a school history textbook, although to whom I say this request
                      2. +1
                        25 January 2014 23: 19
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        So before writing nonsense about FORMER OFFICERS-Trotskyists, you should at least open a school history textbook, although to whom I say this


                        Pr school history book - I don’t know who you are talking to.
                        And tell me in what school history textbook is the oath of the Red Army during the Civil War.
                        Thank you in advance. Yes

                        PS
                        I apologize for the "Trotskyist".
                      3. +1
                        25 January 2014 23: 13
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        Not true, and frankly stupid and provocative.
                        Trotsky's oath of 1918-1939. Since 1939, the oath of Stalin, which came with changes to the collapse of the Union.


                        Thank you.
                    3. +1
                      25 January 2014 17: 33
                      Quote: Normal
                      And you?
                      We??? No.
                      1. 0
                        25 January 2014 23: 12
                        Quote: colonel
                        We??? No.

                        Here we are!!! No.
                  2. +4
                    24 January 2014 22: 26
                    Quote: colonel
                    Third, are you a provocateur?

                    Yes, he is "normal" - a provocateur.
                    Here is one of his pearls

                    Quote: Normal

                    I deliberately did not mention the participation of the USSR in a Polish company.
                    The fact is that at that time the USSR was formally and practically an ally of Germany and participation in the partition of Poland was participation in the World War on the side of Germany.

                    In what, it turns out the USSR and Germany were allies laughing
                    1. -6
                      25 January 2014 00: 48
                      Quote: Setrac
                      Yes, he is "normal" - a provocateur.


                      Are you a provocateur crazy and stupid

                      Quote: Setrac
                      Here is one of his pearls

                      Quote: Normal

                      I deliberately did not mention the participation of the USSR in a Polish company.
                      The fact is that at that time the USSR was formally and practically an ally of Germany and participation in the partition of Poland was participation in the World War on the side of Germany.


                      It is foolish to pull fragments out of a dispute, especially since in this debate you have shown your ignorance. Here are your pearls from that conversation
                      Setrac (2) RU January 21, 2014 21:24 PM ↑

                      World War II began with the Japanese attack on China ...

                      Setrac (2) RU January 21, 2014 22:04 PM ↑

                      I want to draw your attention to the fact that in 1939, not ALL countries entered the war either. According to your logic, the beginning of the war will be considered 1941, when the war instilled USSR, the main winner? Or we will consider the start date of the war - the date of entry of the navel of land into it? And who should be considered a navel, the United States or Europe?

                      Setrac (2) RU January 22, 2014 00:06 PM ↑

                      Are the arguments over? And the partition of Poland is not the participation of the USSR in World War II? Or the Finnish war?
                      Not a fact, no inevitability (This is about the beginning of the World War after the German attack on Poland) did not have.

                      Allotted belongs to me.
                      Deep historical knowledge ....

                      Quote: Setrac
                      In what, it turns out the USSR and Germany were allies


                      Well, of course not, that's what I wrote to you about

                      Normal (3) SU January 22, 2014 01:41

                      So then, after all, the World began in Europe on September 1st?
                      I deliberately did not mention the participation of the USSR in a Polish company.
                      The fact is that at that time the USSR was formally and practically an ally of Germany and participation in the partition of Poland was participation in the World War on the side of Germany. But! Having solved its local problem, the USSR did not take further active steps on the side of Germany. Moreover, starting a war with Finland, the USSR showed that Germany’s ally is not and acts independently and in its own interests only. That is, using the current situation in their interests in the World War, it does not take part.

                      I’ll tell you a secret, only t-sss, nobody-nobody:
                      The Polish government appealed to the USSR for help and the Red Army, together with the remnants of the Polish army, drove the German invaders to the Molotov-Ribentropp Pact line.
                      1. +1
                        25 January 2014 02: 48
                        Quote: Normal
                        you have shown your ignorance.

                        I showed my disagreement with the generally accepted interpretation of events. Herd instinct is not peculiar to me, unlike you.
                      2. 120352
                        0
                        25 January 2014 23: 42
                        And in general, the Earth is square!
              6. Hug
                +1
                25 January 2014 17: 45
                Re .: Ascetic


                When the opponent runs out of arguments, he begins to clarify nationality.
                Arkady Davidovich, writer
            2. +8
              24 January 2014 13: 09
              Quote: Ascetic
              ... Putin about Russians and Putin about "Russian" nationalists, as they say in Odessa, are two big differences.

              As the saying goes, "It doesn't matter what you wanted to say. It is important how you are understood." I don't understand who he is talking about. Am I at ... to? Yes, he himself !!!!! wassat
            3. 120352
              +8
              24 January 2014 15: 14
              In fact, nationalism begins with the fact that a person is aware of his belonging to the nation. For example, I am Russian. And I will never be any Russian, instead of being Russian. Nationalism can develop into its extreme form, into Nazism. To do this, it is necessary and sufficient to begin to oppress the nation. This is in full swing with us. Consequently, the transition of healthy nationalism to its morbid form, Nazism, is provided for by those who create such circumstances. I won’t call names. They are known to all.
          2. +8
            24 January 2014 13: 25
            Dear Moderators, please do not delete the post. I want to tell the truth.
            Dear Chris, how would I like to fill you with the front part of the head so that you finally understand that it (the head) is not just for what it is in it. I suspect that most normal people living in Russia and who love their country will agree with me.
            And there’s a reason to beat.
            PS Based on all the dirt that you write on the pages of this site, I understood one thing about the Russian language, you will not understand.
            1. -2
              24 January 2014 13: 50
              Quote: JIaIIoTb
              Dear Moderators, please do not delete the post. I want to tell the truth.
              Dear Chris, how would I like to fill you with the front part of the head so that you finally understand that it (the head) is not just for what it is in it. I suspect that most normal people living in Russia and who love their country will agree with me.
              And there’s a reason to beat.
              PS Based on all the dirt that you write on the pages of this site, I understood one thing about the Russian language, you will not understand.

              Another Internet fighter got out. Strange liberals have an understanding of love for the motherland. No need to equate love for Putin and his regime, for love for the motherland!
              Stop manipulating and replacing concepts.
              Do you like to wear a CAC and scream KU - please.
              And the main slogan of the liberal Putinists: "DO NOT LOVE PUTIN, YOU MEAN AN AGENT OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND A TRAINER OF THE COUNTRY," leave it for stupid consumers who blindly believe zombies and want someone to think for them!
              1. +7
                24 January 2014 15: 10
                kris
                You are touching me ... :)))) You still dare call names someone. defending the swamp slogans, which are the fruit of creativity of the most liberal part of our society ... or rather, the slogans that they. as maydaunam handed along with TsU their curators.
                I have a question for you.
                Please answer why you defend the slogans of the swampy homosexuals, Natsiks, mink oppositionists? Why are your statements identical to those of Nemtsov, Chirikova, Ksenia, Novodvorskaya, Albats and Gozman? Or do you consider them patriots as opposed to liberal putinoids? :)))
                Why are you shouting "Ku" with enthusiasm when you are shown yellow pants by your comrades walking amicably around the embassies of states hostile to us?
                And in the end, I understand that you are a "keen consumer" of anything, but maybe it's time to stop eating in the trash heap and yelling from a heap of garbage that everyone around does not wash? :)))
              2. +6
                24 January 2014 17: 27
                Quote: kris
                And the main slogan of the liberal Putinists: "YOU DO NOT LOVE PUTIN, YOU MEAN AN AGENT OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND A TRAINER OF THE COUNTRY," leave it to stupid consumers

                This is your juggling of concepts, "love-do not love Putin" in the style of pidapoliberastic propaganda, Putin is not a pretty chick to love him. You can understand your LOVE for men, but you don’t need to report your sexual preferences to the whole country.
          3. +6
            24 January 2014 14: 42
            kris
            The sleep of reason gives birth ... no, not monsters, but maydaunov. :))) Are you really unable to understand that in your video Putin meant those Natsiks who shoulder to shoulder with homosexuals, mink opposition, all kinds of Germans, bulk squeals in the swamp? They are the spiritual brothers of the Maydaunas and the slogans they write the same guys. It's time to wake up and grow up.
            1. -9
              24 January 2014 15: 13
              I think that you brought in vain Navalny in this list.
              He is more concerned with specific matters that can positively affect the general climate.
              1. +5
                24 January 2014 16: 13
                yehat
                Nda, you surprise me ... Look at those who are his allies, look at those who spoke on his side in the media, look at his patrons ... sorry, but where are your eyes? What are the specific cases? For such matters, at one time he was put to the wall without talking ... in the USA, he would have been in Turma for a long time.
                Although, of course, if you think that if Novodvorskaya or Svanidze became the presidents, then this would positively affect the general climate - then, of course, yes ... :))) But where would this climate improve? Even swearing ashamed at you, honestly ... such naivety ... do not be offended by me, I do not want to offend you, but you really hit me ... :)))
              2. +3
                24 January 2014 20: 32
                Quote: yehat
                I think that you brought in vain Navalny in this list.
                He is more concerned with specific matters that can positively affect the general climate.

                On this tovarischu turma is crying for a long time. Only you can not plant a bastard, you will immediately become a "martyr of the bloody regime". And if God forbid "throws back his hooves," the State Department will immediately accept another "Magnitsky law". They are just waiting for this.
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            3. +3
              24 January 2014 15: 47
              Quote: smile
              Putin had in mind those Natsiks who shoulder to shoulder with homosexuals

              like these?
              Boris Mikhailovich Moiseev (Belorussian. Barys Mihailavich Maiseyeў, born 4 March 1954, Mogilev, Belorussian SSR, USSR) - Soviet and Russian dancer, choreographer, pop singer. Honored Artist of the Russian Federation (2006) [1]. Member of the United Russia party since 2003 of the year. [2]
              1. +6
                24 January 2014 16: 27
                kris
                :))) No, I didn’t mean individual pederasts, but the pederastical lobby, which receives significant support, moral and financial, from abroad, which is actively involved in the protest movement. The pederastic lobby is one of the most cohesive and organized marsh squads, along with the actual supporters - the Natsiks :))), and fully shares the ideals of the opposition leaders who are trying to organize an analogue of maydaun - Nemtsov, Udaltsov, Chirikov, bulk, whose inspirers are Svinidze , gozmans, albatsykhs, Novodvorskie ..... Do you also share the ideals of these most ardent opponents of Putin?
                And do not say that you are not like that. :))) The entire opposition movement, with the exception of the Communists, who are nevertheless trying to distance themselves from the bottom (although they, too, have sent their representative to McFaul - remember) they completely crushed them.
              2. Shurik
                0
                24 January 2014 16: 29
                Sorry, I will correct you, the old 3,14doras (to be more precise) A good couple with SVANIDZE
              3. +3
                25 January 2014 00: 27
                Quote: kris
                Boris Mikhailovich Moiseev (Belorussian. Barys Mihailavich Maiseyev, born March 4, 1954, Mogilev, Belorussian SSR, USSR) is a Soviet and Russian dancer, choreographer, and pop singer. Honored Artist of the Russian Federation (2006) [1]. Member of the United Russia party since 2003. [2]


                belay Member of United Russia? And besides, Honored Artist of the Russian Federation? laughing So he is 60 years old. 3,14 op with experience))
          4. 120352
            +1
            24 January 2014 15: 09
            The president’s words are state policy. And the policy is called Russophobia.
            1. +3
              24 January 2014 15: 29
              120352
              Yes, yes, yes, our petty fascists often talk about this, standing on the swamp shoulder to shoulder with mink oppositionists and homosexuals. By the way, ascetic explained above that the ultra-liberals are financing our Natsiks ... moreover, you can go to make a seppuk, the Jews ... :))) And the guys, like one of the ideologists of our Natsiks, Belkovsky, got bored with the fact that we need to call Prince Harry ... everything, the carcasses of the light, the sushi of the oars, there’s nowhere to go further. :)))
              Do not be lazy. read Ascetic's comments above and try to ponder them. It will be especially useful for you. :)))

              And about public policy ... :))) If you are not able to understand the president’s words that were placed in the minute clip, then ... your analytical calculations about our public policy look like a mockery of common sense ... :)))
              1. 120352
                -5
                24 January 2014 17: 16
                smile
                The next time you write on the forum, try to be at least a little sober. Now, objecting to my sayings, for some reason you are using the de arguments that I draw conclusions similar to me, but for some reason you are trying to deny yourself. A split personality is a severe mental disorder. So common sense does not threaten you. I would make you an aminazinchik, 5 milliliters, but I do not have direct contact. So call an ambulance. Health.
                1. +3
                  24 January 2014 19: 17
                  120352
                  :))) Well, you have already begun to stigmatize me personally ... :))) Well, at least for the time being only an alcoholic ... :))) But now I confess to you honestly, in the same cases, one of my acquaintances says- I swear, hand on tomato! :))) - did not drink! :))) Yesterday and the day before ... last week it was, I repent ... :))) Is this very bad? :)))
                  And in general, really, who am I to refute your (in your words) "EXPRESSIONS" :)))?
                  In principle, I know who Schizophrenia is :))), but earlier I thought that HE did not come to you ... but now I am starting to think ... :))) you know, one of the distinguishing features of real alcoholics and psychos is their active attempt to blame everyone around them for suffering the same. but in a more severe form ... :))) and then you decided to share your aminazinchik with me ... and even claim that you yourself produce it ... :))) well. how else to regard your phrase about that. what do you want me to DO with chlorpromazine? :))) I am plagued by vague doubts .... :))) After such statements, somehow I don't want to "contact" you ... :)))
                  And I won’t call you an ambulance - and don’t ask ... better ask your mom for help :)))

                  And so - yes, really, what is my common sense? :))) Some people also reproach me for impracticality, and they teach me the mind ... my grandmother, for example .... are you someone's grandmother too? :)))

                  But seriously, it’s not my fault that your conclusions coincide with the conclusions of your enemies - do not you think that you should think about whether you are taking the right position?
                  And please, do not be rude to me - I do not want to tear you up, because it is to you that I do not experience negative emotions, but it will be unpleasant for you. So, let's do it with a touch of humor, but without busting, okay? And even better - to justify my conclusions - when and where I said something wrong, then I will answer constructively and maybe we don’t even have to argue and be malicious.
                  1. 120352
                    +3
                    25 January 2014 23: 57
                    Negative emotions, as well as resentment, are the destiny of the weak. So far nobody has been able to tear me (for 62 years). Rudeness is not my style. Such an assessment by you of my texts indicates your irritability (tendency) and irritability (fact).
                    It just so happened that over the course of my working biography I have been communicating with students for a considerable time (several more than 30 years). Sometimes there were more than 200 people in the audience. 10 percent came outside the schedule, from other people's flows, and precisely because they liked the way I substantiate my thoughts. And I taught (now disabled, I don’t go) psychology. In particular, therefore, in any text I see with a professional look not only the text itself, but also the author. There is such a psychological method. Frankly, I'm bored with you because of your inconsistency. So from now on I don’t react to your texts. Excuse me.
                    1. 0
                      26 January 2014 00: 06
                      120352

                      Let me join drinks
                    2. -2
                      26 January 2014 03: 35
                      120352
                      1. You mistakenly ascribe to me emotions that I don’t feel when writing comments. I definitely don’t feel about you. Sarcasm - yes. Echidism - yes. Sometimes even excitement. But annoyance? Why's that? I am calm as a brick and slightly cheerful.
                      Of course, I carefully read your discussion about how professional you are ..... well, what can I say? I rarely met really magnificent psychologists (and I met) who so conscientiously love to paint their professional level and experience, as an argument in a dispute. In rhetoric, this is considered an unfair technique, applied in the absence of arguments - and you cannot not know this ... Further, I suppose you will understand what I have not agreed upon ....
                      I also dare to remind you of the features of perception and evaluation of verbal and non-verbal communication ... Am I quite clearly expressed? The psychologist cannot help but understand what I mean .... Your method of compiling a psychological portrait failed. You have made a serious professional mistake - I say this quite seriously and without any fuss.

                      2. I understand that you did not like my commentary, but I do not understand what you expected, choosing your own style of communication with me on your own? It is strange that you were hurt by the fact that I answered you with your own coin. Probably it would be worth being objective, don’t you? Reread your comment, the answer to which you are so hurt and think about. Try to be honest even to yourself.

                      3. The statement of my inconsistency, excuse me, only testifies to your inability to refute my argument - this is an unsubstantiated statement, the cause of which can only be irritation. I understand you, you are offended. Well, the fact that you are bored with me does not upset me. after all, I'm not writing for that. to amuse someone. in general, I’ll survive somehow. :)))

                      4. I understand why you mentioned your age and state of health ... although my knowledge of psychology is undoubtedly much more modest than yours, it is quite specific, and concern, for example, emergency interrogations and psychological breakdown of persons with special training, or a quick assessment of information and its sources, including living ones, in an extreme situation. But in any case, unconditionally and unequivocally, I would not answer you in your style if I knew how old you are. Acted softer. And now it’s inconvenient for me - what exactly did you want to achieve by calling your age? Your goal is achieved, I am really uncomfortable ... in front of you. Yet you are much older than me. I am 42.
                      And I apologize for the term "tear" that has hurt you so much. Due to age.
                      If you don’t want to respond to my texts - don’t react, you have nothing to apologize for. it's your right.
                      Goodbye.
          5. +2
            24 January 2014 21: 09
            Here is the full version and what is he wrong in speaking of those who say so?
            1. -7
              24 January 2014 22: 13
              Quote: ramzes1776
              Here is the full version and what is he wrong in speaking of those who say so?

              Well, how does the person asking Putin differ from Svanidze, who is outraged by the inscription "I am Russian"? Yes, nothing, the same Russophobe like Svanidze and the same Russophobe like Putin.
              1. +5
                25 January 2014 01: 20
                Quote: Normal
                Well, how does the person asking Putin differ from Svanidze, who is outraged by the inscription "I am Russian"? Yes, nothing, the same Russophobe like Svanidze and the same Russophobe like Putin.

                You are aware that people of different nationalities live on the territory of Russia and they live on their own land. In our region both Russians and Mordovians and Tatars live and get along well. My wife and I have Mordovian blood and words I completely support Putin about idiots. I, too, in your Russophobe?
                1. +2
                  26 January 2014 00: 47
                  Quote: ramzes1776
                  You are aware that people of different nationalities live in Russia and they live on their own land.


                  Actually in the know, but you doubt it?

                  I also live on MY own land. I live in the land of my ancestors. On the river, the ending of the name of which "VA" in the languages ​​of the Finno-Ugric language group means water. And my blood is half Mordovian and half Ukrainian. If you believe Klyuchevsky, then I am a Great Russian, since he deduces the origin of the people of Great Russians from the mixing and merging of immigrants from southwestern Russia and northeastern Finno-Ugric tribes - Meri, Vesi, Mordovians, Murom, Meshchera.
                  I generally believe that there are two nationalities; Russian and non-Russian.
                  Quote: ramzes1776
                  Putin’s words about idiots I fully support.

                  Well ... It happens. But it’s never too late to grow wiser and no one is too early.
                  Take a look at the video. There is one Russophobe with a characteristic appearance and pronunciation, whose tribesmen drove out or exterminated the Russians on the territory under their control and now actively populate the territory of the Russians themselves, establishing their own rules and orders there, dares to speak (and the insolence of Caucasians does not know borders) about some kind of incitement of ethnic hatred and indignant that someone dared to say "Russia for Russians". Well, what's the matter; be Russian and Russia will be for you.
                  But no, this national cadre will never give up its nationality, It will never give up that the Caucasus is not the land of Russians, but the land of Caucasians. At the same time, he claims to be equal in rights with Russia in Russia, and even more so, he denies the Russians that right in which he and his fellow tribesmen have no doubts.
                  And what does he hear in response from VVP, which is surrounded on all sides by representatives of the "chosen people", regularly meets with "ber lazars" and even prayed at the wailing wall with a kippah on top of his head.
                  Correctly! That those who consider Russia for Russians are pridurki and provocateurs. All Russians who consider Russia to be their own are pridurki, and those who try (agree - far from disinterestedly) to achieve Russian self-awareness as a people and master of their country are provocateurs.
                  Well, who do you think these two people are?

                  Quote: ramzes1776
                  . I, too, in your Russophobe?


                  This is your personal matter, as an attitude to religion and belief, for example.
                  But if you are afraid of Russians, then accordingly. If not, then, as you know, there is no court.
            2. +2
              24 January 2014 22: 58
              ramzes1776
              Damn, I'm sorry, I accidentally jumped out to you minus .... just don’t say that you already spat on my back .... :))) I will compensate ... then ... right away, when I see your comment - in other ways I do not have. since I already used my right to influence your rating earlier .... :)))
          6. 0
            30 January 2014 14: 26
            Why is there such a shout around this phrase - "Russia - for Russians and in Russian"? There are many nationalities in Russia, including Russians. Where can the poor Russians go if even Russia is not for them ??? Now, if they said "Israel - for Russians and in Russian" - it would sound provocative! And so ..
        4. +5
          24 January 2014 20: 04
          I have long wanted to ask someone from the leaders of the state - "Why does the Constitution of Tatarstan, Chechnya, or another Russian republic say about the priority of the indigenous nationality of this republic, but the Constitution of Russia does not say that Russians are the titular nation?" - would they answer me? Most likely, it would cause a wave of indignation in the republics, that it would be a manifestation of chauvinism and extremism. It turns out that with us everything is possible for someone, but nothing for Russians. If you are Russian, then sit quietly in a corner and sniff in two holes, looking at how a lezginka is dancing under your window in a purely Russian city under your window. Remember Stalin's speeches at the 1941 parade and the Victory parade, where he emphasized the importance of the Russian people, and that it was on the shoulders of the Russian people that the hardest part in the fight against fascism fell. Something someone's memory is short.
        5. -1
          24 January 2014 21: 35
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          a very large percentage of the population loves to water their country with feces, often based on lies, perverting and half-truths, while another percentage perceives it as truth and also begins to spread it "without reflecting" ...


          I would like to clarify, "a very large percentage" is how much? Unclear. But judging by the fact that you wrote off the rest of the population of Russia in "its other percentage", the entire Russian people have been merged into sludge by you, with the exception of your beloved. This is where Russophobia begins.

          Quote: sledgehammer102
          national self-awareness begins to grow with the simplest steps to change yourself and your closest social circle ...


          I sincerely wish you success in your noble aspiration.
        6. Sergey XXX
          +6
          25 January 2014 01: 51
          My wife, about 15 years ago, intended to plant a flower garden at the entrance, I was skeptical that they would trample it down, but not only didn’t do any harm, but the residents of other entrances followed our example, and then, as in the distant Soviet time, they all planted trees for several years and bushes. I was in the Far East and in the class of nationalities of all kinds, from all over the Union, and we children, understanding our personal nationality at the same time, all considered ourselves and others, the same Russian, considering it something big and meaningful and unifying. Something like that. As a young man, he fooled and abroad, everyone, regardless of their nationality, proudly called themselves Russian, and made fun of themselves, among us were appearances from narrow-eyed to long-nosed :-)). And Svanidze - which is easier, floats higher and stinks harder :-)).
        7. 0
          27 January 2014 19: 12
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          So, national identity begins to grow with the simplest steps to change just yourself and your closest social circle ...


          One Man, not very Russian by birth and citizenship, said one clever thought in the words of a little boy: He got up in the morning, put himself in order - put your planet in order.

          He studied in the third grade and could not understand why children were not allowed to read such a simple book. I tried to give it to my peers - more than half of them did not understand anything, they said boring. By the eighth, only half understood. And the rest continued to mischief finely.
          It is interesting to find out what the current generation of Egheshnians will understand.
      2. +10
        24 January 2014 18: 30
        THE PEOPLE IS JUST A MASTERPIECE !!!

        1. komissar
          0
          24 January 2014 18: 58
          CLASS !! In schools, the first lesson must begin with this poem. Maybe then there will be more patriots and fewer Nazis
        2. komissar
          0
          24 January 2014 18: 58
          CLASS !! In schools, the first lesson must begin with this poem. Maybe then there will be more patriots and fewer Nazis
      3. mzaitseva77
        +3
        24 January 2014 19: 45
        "First, start paying attention to all the inscriptions on the streets, the names of books, programs and films where the word" in Russian "is mentioned. Already within the first two days you will understand that in a very" strange "way they are mentioned in the most negative sense, or in the end lead to negative consequences. Let's figure it out together why there are more and more such "accidents". "

        From the book "Black business buffalo".
      4. +3
        24 January 2014 21: 56
        I am Russian Soviet Slav-Earthman. I am ashamed that Mr. Svanidze does not respect his last name.
      5. +6
        25 January 2014 15: 24
        THIS IS A TYPE OF JOURNEY UNDER THE MONARCH - IT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO BE SPEAKED UNPANISHEDLY WHAT IS PLEASANT
      6. 0
        April 6 2014 13: 59
        The United States is imposing, on the contrary, considering itself invincible and invisible ...
    2. +26
      24 January 2014 09: 44
      Born as humans, but became goats! Such an interesting metamorphosis can happen to a liberal! lol
      And in order to avoid such conversations in the future, it is necessary for the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, in the main law of the country - the CONSTITUTION, to secure the right to be a STATE EDUCATIONAL people!
      1. +4
        24 January 2014 10: 12
        Quote: makst83
        Such an interesting metamorphosis can happen to a liberal!

        Why maybe they’ve already become a long time ago, and what’s over.
      2. +1
        24 January 2014 11: 06
        and what will this scribble change?
        only more stench rises about the oppression and oppression of unfortunate national minorities!
        No, this is nice, but obviously not enough, or maybe even not true at all.
        It is necessary to clarify the ideology of this decision, to achieve its adoption in society, as an uncontested fact. Only then can it make sense.
        How was it in the USSR? If you are Russian, then certain actions and abilities were expected of you. And the person was proud of his nationality, because no one yelled in his ear idiocy like "Get out, enough to ruin Ukraine!", But on the contrary, paid tribute to his potential in advance along with the expectations of its manifestation. There was a psychological balance!
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    3. +18
      24 January 2014 09: 55
      and I am RUSSIAN. and proud of it. and sweeping away all the attacks, that I have nothing more to be proud of, I will answer right away, there is something. tell me where you can write this ..idor?
      1. Old Cynic
        +11
        24 January 2014 10: 17
        And would you like to spend your precious time on letters to "this"?
        It won't read "it" anyway. It would be more efficient to meet in person, IMHO.
      2. 225chay
        +4
        24 January 2014 10: 35
        Quote: RBLip
        I will answer right away, there is something. tell me where you can write this ..idor?


        They will find this Sidor directly to the Kremlin and they will hand it over to Karlovich or directly to his dad ... Karla
    4. +9
      24 January 2014 10: 20
      "What did he do to be Russian?"
      Svanidze is by the last name of Georgians and of course he needs to try very hard to become Russian, and to change his name first. Therefore, he may be indignant that someone considers himself Russian, and does not do anything for this, this person simply does not need to do anything, he is simply Russian. A brunette needs to be dyed to become a blonde, and a blonde does not need to do anything to become a blonde, she is already blonde.
      1. +9
        24 January 2014 10: 33
        Quote: Canep
        Svanidze is by the last name of Georgians and of course he needs to try very hard to become Russian, and to change his name first.

        You look at his face and it immediately becomes clear that a change of name will not help him
        1. 120352
          +1
          24 January 2014 15: 35
          With a Semitic face? Surname change is not a plastic surgery.
        2. +8
          24 January 2014 16: 08
          I am not anti-Semitic, but the nationality of the Jews goes to the mother. Mother - Adelaide Anatolyevna Svanidze (n.
          Kryzhanovskaya
          Grandmother - Tsilya Isaakovna Svanidze
      2. 225chay
        +14
        24 January 2014 10: 38
        Quote: Canep
        Svanidze by the name of Georgians


        He lay sideways to the Georgians ...
        The same as Gref German, or Alekseev Russian
        1. +9
          24 January 2014 11: 29
          his nationality is a liberal
          1. +5
            24 January 2014 12: 57
            Quote: Poppy
            his nationality is a liberal

            it is not a nationality. this is gender.
          2. +3
            24 January 2014 14: 04
            A Jewish lifestyle
      3. +16
        24 January 2014 12: 10
        Quote: Volodin Alexey
        Russian television journalist Nikolai Svanidze with extreme irritation told that on one of the fences near Moscow he read the inscription “I am Russian”. Nikolai Karlovich, as it turned out, was worried about the question: why could someone take it like this and allow themselves to write the phrase mentioned on the fence, and, quote: “what did he do to be Russian?”

        Svanidze, Parfyonov, Kashiny, Pivovarov, Bykov-Zilbeltrudy, Lobkov
        - remember:
        1. In order not to sin, the journalist must remember: the interests of the audience are more important than the interests of the author.
        2. In order to avoid sin, a journalist must remember that the words of even the most impudent article need to be selected.
        3. If a journalist does not want to burn in hell, then he must have ideals and morality.
        4. You can not consider yourself smarter than others, even being an expert in this field.
        5. A journalist should not seek to shock and tear the covers. Mistakes are forgiven, arrogance never.
        1. +5
          24 January 2014 20: 38
          They still forgot to add Len Mlechin, he gave a lot of lies and nastiness about the USSR and Russia, he has only Israel and the United States of true democracy.
      4. +19
        24 January 2014 12: 12
        Quote: Canep
        Svanidze is by the last name of Georgians and of course he needs to try very hard to become Russian, and to change his name first. Therefore, he may be indignant that someone considers himself Russian, and does not do anything for this, this person simply does not need to do anything, he is simply Russian.


        "Georgian" Svanidze about Russians


        But what Stalin said
        "old Russian man of Georgian nationality"
        about the Russian people.


        Now Svanidze and similar "destalinizers" teach us the Russian language and Russian history ... THE MAIN THING IS NOT RUSSIAN, but Russian.
        Who are they?
        1. All of them are unconditional Westerners.
        2. All of them are "citizens of the world" with dual and triple citizenship
        3. They categorically reject the idea of ​​a special Russian path of development.
        4. Their god is a cult of profit, personal enrichment.
        5. as a rule, everyone considers themselves to be victims of the Stalinist repressions and the Holocaust, which they put on the same level, because the Stalinist regime and German fascism, respectively, are identical in essence, therefore, the Russian people must repent for their crimes before them, according to the same Gerber.
        6. They classly despise the “backward” Russian people, they hate this “wrong”, not their Russia.
        Selected Utterances of "Russian" Liberals
        7. They strongly disagree with a strong Russia.
        8. They debunk, denigrate our entire history in general, de-Stalinization is especially important. For Stalin is the only leader who practically nullified the activities in the country of the "fifth column"
        Here are their true goals and ideological attitudes.
      5. +2
        24 January 2014 13: 13
        Quote: Canep
        Svanidze by the name of Georgians

        Interestingly, what did he do to consider himself a Georgian? or does he not consider himself a Georgian? Then by whom?
      6. +9
        24 January 2014 14: 09
        Quote: Canep
        Svanidze is by the last name of Georgians and of course he needs to try very hard to become Russian, and to change his name first. Therefore, he may be indignant that someone considers himself Russian, and does not do anything for this, this person simply does not need to do anything, he is simply Russian.

        but nothing to do with the surname ...

        I have a German surname, so what?
        whoever says that I'm not Russian will get upside down ...
        1. 120352
          +1
          24 January 2014 15: 41
          Contact, if that, I will help! Well done!
      7. +12
        24 January 2014 14: 29
        Quote: Canep
        Svanidze is by the last name of Georgians and of course he needs to try very hard to become Russian, and to change his last name

        It is not a surname that makes a Russian person a Russian. Barclay de Tolly, not being Russian either by nationality or by surname, could proudly say about himself "I am Russian" and personally I absolutely agree with him.
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        2. +6
          24 January 2014 15: 11
          The same can be said with regard to Bagration, as a Georgian Georgian, he considered himself primarily a Russian general ...
        3. +1
          24 January 2014 15: 27
          The word ,, surname ,, is foreign. origin and means family; i.e. in the Slavic world means Generic name.
      8. 120352
        0
        24 January 2014 15: 33
        By the way, his relative, known to all of us, called himself quite rightly: "Russian Georgian" (although he was an Ossetian)
    5. Mr. Gambu4aS
      +6
      24 January 2014 11: 16
      Usually for some reason one nationality, if interested, just look at the biographies of those who are associated with the media, there you will definitely find the same Gussians in each!
    6. +4
      24 January 2014 13: 31
      In general, who is Svanidze, a "political prostitute", a chatterbox, got out of some aul, hates RUSSIA and the RUSSIAN PEOPLE with every fiber of his soul, why this clown was included in the Public Chamber is simply incomprehensible to the mind. He constantly has appearances on the first television channels, I pay taxes and this state television invites this pro-Western defender of the Americans and Americans, they spend my money blaming me. This is generally unacceptable, let the management of the channels think about the consequences. In fact, a hedgehog to his native land, mountain aul and from there from the height of the Caucasus Mountains, trend whatever you want, leave RUSSIA, we will figure out what's what.
      1. inc_non
        -2
        24 January 2014 22: 54
        And who are you? You pay taxes and pay, the remote control from the TV is always at hand, click.
        hates soul roCASUJ and RUSSIAN PEOPLE
        All you think about Russia, overdone with the letters already.
    7. +6
      24 January 2014 14: 34
      Reasonable, 2,3
      I would like to clarify the national aspect of your comment - all pigs are certainly female horned dogs, but not all Jews are pigs. :))) I would say, not everything is far, very far away. Look at the comments of men from Israel on our website. The overwhelming majority of them despise Pigidzevans, Gozmans and Albatsians, no less than us. Do not be like Russophobes and blame a nation for everything. This is not good and does not do us honor.
      1. 120352
        +3
        24 January 2014 15: 48
        smile.
        I can name dozens, if not hundreds, of Russian Jews. Russian is a state of mind. This is what A.Ya. Rosenbaum, calling himself a "Russian nationalist of Jewish origin." I fully believe in his sincerity. The episode was shown on TV. There were some in the hall who expressed their disagreement with him: they say, a Jew cannot be Russian. And I understand that those who were sitting in this room, regardless of origin, were not Russian. And Rosenbaum WAS and is.
        1. +2
          24 January 2014 18: 39
          No, judging by the performances on the Maidan, he is a pure Ukrainian, like Klitschko with pedagogy
        2. 0
          27 January 2014 00: 25
          Quote: 120352
          Russian is a state of mind.

          Yes, to hell with two state of mind yeah keep your pocket wider So that the snot is not smeared or you’ll smartly turn it on Russian is Slav and point A Rosenbaum, I beg you, don’t call Russian He’s as Russian to you as Cassiopeia Adieu
    8. AVV
      +2
      24 January 2014 15: 12
      And what is this Russia doing, still trying to open its pagan mouth !!!
      1. +4
        24 January 2014 15: 42
        AVV
        :))) Once, as a joke, I asked our Israeli colleague Atalef - a lot of normal people left for you, maybe you can take away all the remaining pork dairy farmers. He said - thanks, we have enough of our junk. :)))
        The reaction of the Israelis to the Russophobic statements of Gozman is very indicative. One characteristic statement, I don’t remember whose, is this ... intentionally provokes anti-Jewish sentiments, in order to then ask Israel for money to fight them. :)))
    9. 0
      24 January 2014 15: 22
      that’s not the problem. the problem is how much time they spend in someone else’s garden and how much time they do.
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    11. ABV
      +1
      24 January 2014 16: 03
      I agree! It seems that Svanidze highly hates Russia and all our people .... an unpleasant citizen ...
    12. ABV
      0
      24 January 2014 16: 03
      I agree! It seems that Svanidze highly hates Russia and all our people .... an unpleasant citizen ...
  2. +22
    24 January 2014 09: 09
    I should throw a fool out of the Public Chamber.
    1. +24
      24 January 2014 09: 19
      Quote: brainkiller
      I should throw a fool out of the Public Chamber.

      I am Russian!
      Yes, you sho. They’ve been gathering them together for so many years, the Schaub were under supervision ... laughing
      Let them hang noodles on each other’s ears, than they’ll crawl all over Russia and will spoil their weak minds ...

      1. Hs487
        +21
        24 January 2014 11: 18
        By the way, I cannot understand why those who dislike, for example, Caucasians or Jews, are immediately "dressed up" by public opinion in the SS uniform, but no Russophobes.
        Given that it was the Russian people who made the main contribution to the annihilation of Nazism (recall the famous toast of Stalin) - any Russophobe, regardless of his nationality, is a Nazi and the successor of Hitler.
        1. 225chay
          +4
          24 January 2014 14: 00
          Quote: Hs487
          any Russophobe, regardless of nationality, is a Nazi and a successor of Hitler’s cause.


          Russophobes this is the Nazis, haters
          1. -2
            24 January 2014 15: 31
            I consider myself Russian, but there are individuals who make me a local Russophobe)))
            It makes no sense to hide the fact that among the Russians there are those who deserve a phobia.
            It's a shame another - because of some imbeciles, so they judge everyone.
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      2. +3
        24 January 2014 14: 14
        Quote: Boris55
        Yes, you sho. They’ve been gathering them together for so many years, the Schaub were under supervision ...
        Let them hang noodles on each other’s ears, than they’ll crawl all over Russia and will spoil their weak minds ...

        when I see this "public chamber" - I think about exactly the same wink

        I also liked how Pu over the snow maiden got funny when Panfilov claimed laughing
      3. 0
        27 January 2014 09: 32
        Oh, I know this aunt, such rubbish, kapets, go and work for the Pentagon.
    2. +9
      24 January 2014 09: 55
      But does his statement not fall under the article on extremism then he will not only be kicked out of the House, but also judge a goat.
      1. +1
        24 January 2014 14: 15
        Quote: demel2
        But does his statement not fall under the article on extremism then he will not only be kicked out of the House, but also judge a goat.

        yes wait you judge ...
        no need to judge a useful idiot ... bully
      2. 120352
        +3
        24 January 2014 15: 53
        Yes, that's all that is needed for a charge under Art. 280, 282, since the "person" is annoyed by the presence of Russians in Russia, this is inciting ethnic hatred.
  3. +11
    24 January 2014 09: 13
    Would it be more pleasant for svanidze to read a word of three or five letters? From the realization that RUSSIANS are here - does he feel sick?
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      1. +17
        24 January 2014 11: 50
        There is such a nationality - a liberal. Representatives of this nationality deny the existence of Russians and Russian culture in general. Liberal residences are mainly concentrated in North America (USA) and Western Europe. In the last 20-25 years, the tribes of liberals have spread to Eastern Europe. In Russia, they live in separate small groups mainly in large cities. The method of reproduction has not been fully established, but it is clearly different from the traditional one. Representatives of liberals, both male and supposedly female (difficult to distinguish), differ from the normal population by the constant licking of asses to the representatives of their tribe from the western territories, as well as by the difference in colloquial speech, in which slogans, gossip, sayings and other pearls for the Western image prevail life, but there is nothing audible to a normal person there. Ordinary human speech is not understood. Among wild liberals, there are sometimes tamed ones. Taming takes place quickly, for this you only need to have more money, it’s for the smell of money that they come together. Not constant, they can easily change the owner if he offers more money. Therefore, it is recommended not to come close to the wild (infectious), tamed to keep on a short leash. The liberal, who is not allowed to lick the ass of his western compatriot, is weaned from the Western media and TV and is forbidden to bark on the streets, newspaper pages and screens, they quickly die and die. laughing
  5. +22
    24 January 2014 09: 17
    I am RUSSIAN, Russian state-forming nation!
    1. 225chay
      +5
      24 January 2014 09: 47
      Quote: morpogr
      morpogr Today, 09:17 AM New
      I am RUSSIAN, Russian state-forming nation!

      And for them "these very" Vonidze such an inscription is like a red rag to a drunken fattened bull
    2. +14
      24 January 2014 10: 41
      By the way, in this sense, it is interesting to compare Russia with the state of Israel, where Jews make up about 75% of the population, which is about the same as Russians in Russia. But, however, the Israeli Declaration of Independence (the official constitution is not there) says in black and white that Israel is a Jewish state. And something I never heard that Svanidze and his associates ever protested against this.
      1. 120352
        +5
        24 January 2014 15: 59
        We would also have to make a similar amendment to the Constitution in relation to Russians. And immediately! Tired of feeling at home, as a guest.
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    4. 120352
      +4
      24 January 2014 15: 57
      I am not calling anyone to anything, but simply stating: Russia is a country of the Russian people. Consequently, Russia is for Russians. The rest, if we agree to live according to our customs, rules, laws and experience a spiritual craving for everything Russian, we are welcome.
      1. +1
        24 January 2014 17: 34
        Quote: 120352
        Consequently, Russia is for Russians.

        And what to do with the forty million non-Russian Russians? Under the knife? Somewhere we have already heard such slogans, for example "Germany for Germans", Estonia for Estonians, Poland for logs.
        1. 120352
          +3
          24 January 2014 23: 26
          Read the texts carefully. I already wrote about this, but I will repeat it for you. Historically in Russia, and then in Russia, Russians were called all who considered themselves spiritually connected with her, lived with her problems, respected customs, traditions, rituals, spoke Russian (as best he could), and many non-Russians by birth accepted Orthodoxy and became Russians. I mentioned the names of some of these persons. Yes, they are, and not only in my comments. Personally for you I will name more. Mendeleev (née Mendel), Jew. He converted to Orthodoxy on his own conviction, became a hereditary nobleman. Pushkin, the grandson of the arap Peter the Great, who created the Russian language, which we speak today, Lermontov (from the English clan Lermont) is also Russian, Barclay de Tolly. The list can be continued and will amount to several tens of thousands of people. And they are all Russian. Russians are not just a nation, but a civilization. This is our difference from the Germans and other peoples. Russians, therefore, are a conciliar concept (not mine, sociological and political science, standardized), bringing together representatives of different peoples who meet the above criteria. Spiritual connection with Russia - this is the criterion of Russianness. So this is not "Estonia for Estonians," etc. If a person is ready to share his fate with Russia, he, regardless of ethnic roots, becomes a Russian as well. Russian German, Russian Dane, Russian Georgian (as Stalin called himself). And if a person is not spiritually united with Russia, he is not Russian, and possibly an enemy. This is brief.
          1. 0
            25 January 2014 00: 28
            Quote: 120352
            (nee Mendel), Jew

            Excuse me, do you even know why Mendel ?!
            and that this doesn’t apply to Jews exactly in this case
            1. 120352
              0
              26 January 2014 00: 10
              But is Mendelssohn (the same root) related to the Jews, under whose march people rush into marriage? Read the biographies of these characters, whose work I respect with deep respect.
              1. 0
                26 January 2014 00: 18
                What does Mendelssohn have to do with it ?!
              2. 0
                26 January 2014 00: 18
                What does Mendelssohn have to do with it ?!
          2. PPL
            +1
            25 January 2014 00: 48
            Mendeleev (née Mendel), Jew.

            Paternal grandfather, Pavel Maksimovich Sokolov (1751-1808), was a priest in the village of Tikhomandritsy, Vyshnevolotsky district, Tver province, located two kilometers from the northern tip of Lake Udomlya. Only one of his four sons, Timothy, retained his father's last name. As was customary at that time among the clergy, at the end of the seminary, the three sons of P. M. Sokolov were given different surnames: Alexander - Tikhomandritsky (by the name of the village), Vasily - Pokrovsky (by the parish in which Pavel Maksimovich served), and Ivan , father of Dmitry Ivanovich, in the form of a nickname received the name of the neighboring landowners of the Mendeleev.
            Source: Chronicle of the life and work of D. I. Mendeleev. L .: Science, 1984
            He accepted Orthodoxy on his own conviction, became a hereditary nobleman

            Really for the fact that adopted Orthodoxy ranked among the hereditary nobility? lol
            1. 120352
              0
              26 January 2014 00: 15
              The nobility, in fact, was given for the cause. My ancestor, for example, received the surname Izmail and the title as a result of the capture of Ishmael.
          3. +2
            25 January 2014 01: 27
            Quote: 120352
            And if a person is spiritually not one with Russia, he is non-Russian, and possibly an enemy. This is brief.

            If you explain the slogan "Russia for the Russians" in this way, then I completely agree with you, but terry nationalists think differently.
            1. 120352
              +1
              26 January 2014 00: 19
              That’s how I understand it. And so he explained to his students. Among them were representatives of different ethnic groups, but there were no objections. Although in other cases and on other topics, we sometimes argued.
  6. +12
    24 January 2014 09: 19
    This "Svanidzia", ​​I wonder, is it taken seriously by anyone other than the rabid demshiza. I remember his reportage from the GKChP times, where this "lamp of democracy", with a lip trembling with fear, announced that the communists had taken revenge and "we shall die", he bleated then, unlike now.
  7. +12
    24 January 2014 09: 21
    so that gentlemen like Nikolai Svanidze and his other like-minded people give you this right).
    Comrades Kurginyan aren’t enough for such gentlemen. The fifth column has been removed, history has been distorted, all worthy rulers have been slandered, it remains so that the concept of Russian disappears and only the richest territory in 17mln square remains. km. with a population without a clan, without a tribe and without self-awareness, they WANT it so, but break off.
    1. +7
      24 January 2014 10: 40
      Quote: bomg.77
      For such gentlemen, Comrade Kurginyan is not enough
      Thank you for reminding the funny situation. When the named comrade and gentleman met on TV in the "Time Court" program (and the topic was "Why the world does not like America?"), And Kurginyan drove Svanidze into a corner, he, not knowing that and already talking, he suddenly began to scream that China would soon attack us, and that a war with it was about to happen. That was not the topic, ridiculous and ridiculous!
    2. +1
      24 January 2014 15: 48
      bomg.77
      I think everything is reversing. Starting this summer, the birth certificate will already have a column of nationality.
      With nostalgia, I remember the programs on which Kurginyan tore up Svinidze and his supporters, like a blotch rhino :))) When I looked, I regretted it. that I can’t participate in the debate. :)))
      1. +2
        24 January 2014 23: 33
        Quote: smile
        I think everything is reversing. Starting this summer, the birth certificate will already have a column of nationality.
        Smiley hi Censorship will also be introduced, without it it is impossible in such a stream of information.
        Quote: smile
        With nostalgia, I recall the programs in which Kurginyan tore up Svinidze and his supporters like a rhinoceros blotter
        The same love people to torture, knowledge laughing ) Kurginyan is a lump, with fundamental knowledge, against a populist and an amateur who thinks he knows something. hi
    3. 120352
      +4
      24 January 2014 16: 01
      And the fifth column must be returned!
  8. +17
    24 January 2014 09: 27
    I am Russian!!!
    1. +14
      24 January 2014 09: 53
      I am Russian!!!
      1. +5
        24 January 2014 13: 33
        And I'm Russian German))))) And so what? you need to look at actions, not nationality. Take care of yourself, and not blame everything on a neighbor / government / Jewish conspiracies and stuff. Then the liberals will have nothing to say
        1. +8
          24 January 2014 14: 18
          Quote: il grand casino
          And I'm Russian German)))))

          I am Russian, with a German surname, and the family is from Latvian Germans, here wink
          1. 225chay
            +4
            24 January 2014 14: 32
            Quote: DanaF1
            I am Russian, with a German surname, and the family is from Latvian Germans, here


            Miss!
            You do not worry ours anyway! where is the main heart?
            Here!
            1. +6
              24 January 2014 14: 39
              Quote: 225chay
              You do not worry ours anyway! where is the main heart?
              Here!

              Yes, I do not worry)))
              my family lives in Moscow from pre-revolutionary times (until the 17 year), what else can I be if not Russian?
              1. 225chay
                +2
                24 January 2014 16: 40
                Quote: DanaF1
                my family lives in Moscow from pre-revolutionary times (until the 17 year), what else can I be if not Russian?


                Yes, you are just lovely ... Of course!
              2. 0
                24 January 2014 17: 39
                Quote: DanaF1
                Yes, I do not worry)))
                my family lives in Moscow from pre-revolutionary times (until the 17 year), what else can I be if not Russian?


                Being determines consciousness. Foreigners living in Russia, the descendants will be Russian in essence, at the same time, the Russians who went abroad - their descendants will no longer be Russian.
          2. 0
            24 January 2014 23: 16
            and if we all love fat too? and smoked? and Berlin is on the territory of two Slavic settlements?
        2. Field
          +2
          24 January 2014 21: 05
          the main thing is that Russian, and German, Jew or Kazakh is the tenth thing)
  9. +16
    24 January 2014 09: 28
    Oh yes, these conversations are about nothing, Russian is Russian and without any nationalism I can say that this people are the eldest in Russia, people of other nationalities themselves must understand this, the language used is Russian, the capital is Russian, central Russia is Russian, Ural is Russian, the Arctic is Russian, join the Russians obey the laws of Russia and no one will notice from the Russians that you are not Russian. It’s as if someone is squeezing this Svanidze, he’s always not happy with the mouse, he works on the state channel and hardly anyone offends him that he is Georgian. We will still ask someone what we should write, especially since we ourselves do not specifically forbid anyone. We give mosques to build, live believe no one bothers you, only do not go down to Wahhabism with terrorism and consider then you are also Russian)))
    1. +4
      24 January 2014 10: 37
      Quote: ZU-23
      and it is unlikely that anyone offends that he is Georgian.

      GEORGIANS? Ah ha ha you cheered me up in the morning)! And I thought who he was by nationality with the name Kolya and dad Karl a ha ha
      1. -2
        24 January 2014 10: 42
        And it makes no difference to me, the surname is Georgian.
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        2. +12
          24 January 2014 11: 24
          Quote: ZU-23
          And it makes no difference to me, the surname is Georgian.

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      3. +4
        24 January 2014 11: 11
        Quote: sssla
        Quote: ZU-23
        and it is unlikely that anyone offends that he is Georgian.

        GEORGIANS? Ah ha ha you cheered me up in the morning)! And I thought who he was by nationality with the name Kolya and dad Karl a ha ha


        So think about it, I can tell you: the letter E, not likely to F laughing
        1. +4
          24 January 2014 13: 50
          Quote: Old Rocketman
          So think about it, I can tell you: the letter E, not likely to F

          Ass or something. And where do they live and what for their country. Anuslandia? laughing
    2. 0
      24 January 2014 10: 54
      and who said that he is Georgian?
    3. Mr. Gambu4aS
      +12
      24 January 2014 11: 11
      Well, why are you offending Georgians?)
      Biography: Named after his grandfather, the party leader Nikolai Samsonovich Svanidze, who was shot in 1937, and a distant relative of Joseph Stalin's first wife, E. S. Svanidze. The paternal grandmother of Nikolai Svanidze - Tsilya Isaakovna was a member of the Bolshevik party [8]. According to Nikolai Svanidze, she hated Stalin[8].
      Pay attention to the name and patronymic of the grandmother (kinship is transmitted through the mother), and everything falls into place.
  10. +4
    24 January 2014 09: 28
    One word PARANOIK
  11. +5
    24 January 2014 09: 29
    Probably cosmopolitan-Svanidze considers fences - a kind of folk leaflets - here, among Russians. Of course, he is more pleased to operate in his Russophobic programs with inscriptions from the same corrupt newspapers.
  12. +7
    24 January 2014 09: 30
    And the question here is not only about the aforementioned Svanidze. It's about a trend that is hard to miss. It should be noted that the famous public figure in Russia was not indignant at all with the fact that they write something on fences, but with the text of the phrase “I am Russian!”


    The issue of Russophobia is a matter of power. The author is right, it’s hard not to notice the tendency, but still we are not looking for easy ways and with a little effort the majority overcomes this difficulty, for the sake of stability and tranquility, he prefers not to notice Russophobia Authorities
    Svanidze is just one of hundreds of Russophobes in the service of the Government. You can recall the mass of cultural figures and the media who openly consider themselves extra-nationals, people of the world, for whom Russia is just a summer pasture with succulent fodder. As soon as all this large and small cattle gets colder, it migrates to where it is warm. Of course, they infuriate that someone dares to call themselves Russian and therefore wants to be the master in their Russian land
  13. +3
    24 January 2014 09: 30
    Quote: brainkiller
    I should throw a fool out of the Public Chamber.

    Coming up! Only with the chamber itself. Well, what's the use of them?
  14. +11
    24 January 2014 09: 31
    Russian - it sounds proud! And warms the soul.
  15. +4
    24 January 2014 09: 33
    Quote: Boris55
    Let them hang noodles on each other’s ears, than they’ll crawl all over Russia

    They do not spread, but rather, are crowded where money and power - i.e. in the capitals. In the province, they also exist, but much less.
    1. +2
      24 January 2014 09: 48
      Quote: demotivator
      They do not spread, but rather, are crowded where money and power - i.e. in the capitals. In the province, they also exist, but much less.

      The President sees perfectly well who has gathered in the "public chamber". He organized their irrepressible energy and turned it into zilch. When visiting any public places (factories, enterprises), Putin necessarily meets with labor collectives and this happens much more often than with representatives of them ...

      The public chamber has other tasks than those announced ...
  16. +11
    24 January 2014 09: 33
    I am Russian and proud of it, and let all this shushera stick his tongues in f .... u. am
  17. +4
    24 January 2014 09: 33
    That's what is missing in the article of the Criminal Code 280.1 Public Calls for Extremist Activities,you just need to add the third paragraph! For Russophobia in the media and government! Yes
  18. Shurik
    +9
    24 January 2014 09: 34
    I am Russian! And Mr. SVANIDZE (Nikolai Karrrlovich) # 80 in the "List of Enemies of the Russian People"
    1. +4
      24 January 2014 09: 57
      Drop the link, where is the list? Something tells me that it is not complete
    2. Shurik
      +2
      24 January 2014 10: 01
      http://www.rusrepublic.ru/spisokkur.htm
      1. 120352
        +1
        24 January 2014 16: 12
        It is time for this Svinidze to increase his rating, numbers, so, until the twentieth ...
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  19. zavesa01
    +8
    24 January 2014 09: 35
    This "man" has neither Motherland nor a flag, and therefore he is ready to attack anyone who has them.
    1. 120352
      +1
      24 January 2014 16: 13
      This is his envy.
  20. +4
    24 January 2014 09: 39
    Quote: brainkiller
    I should throw a fool out of the Public Chamber.

    Keep your friend close and the enemy even closer to know his thoughts possibilities and plans
  21. +5
    24 January 2014 09: 39
    At this rate, we (thanks to the active “social activists”) may well lead to the idea that even the name of the country in which we live will be sinful to pronounce publicly, for it may offend, for example, a foreign citizen ... In this regard, it is clear where suddenly “Raski”, “Roissy” and other slang came from those who prefer the “Russian” language to Russian, and from those whom, you see, even the use of the word “Russian” is alarming, and even scares to trembling in the knees for some inexplicable reason.

    To begin with, you need to at least write the name of the country in Russian on the costumes of our Olympians - Russia. And what is written there now is pronounced in English Russia - i.e. literally rush. It is not necessary to be offended, but urgently corrected.
    1. +2
      24 January 2014 11: 02
      I agree!!! It is a pity that the action and proposals of the PGR (trade union of Russian citizens) and the Air Defense (Great Fatherland Party) did not pass.
    2. 120352
      +2
      24 January 2014 16: 15
      In the word RUSSIA, the basis is preserved: RUSSIA. But Russia must be protected!
      1. Shurik
        +3
        24 January 2014 16: 34
        Join drinks
      2. 0
        24 January 2014 23: 25
        RUSSIA! Where in the mornings in the summer -rozy .....
        1. 120352
          0
          26 January 2014 00: 25
          In summer, dew is everywhere in the morning. So ...
  22. +5
    24 January 2014 09: 46
    There will always be a force that one way or another will try to harm Russia, and no matter how it is called, even the USSR, even the Russian Empire, even though we will always have our own Svanidze, only when Russia / USSR / Russian Empire is healthy, such Svanidze get tickets to a madhouse or a bullet in the back of the head, and if Russia is sick, as it is now, then such people are given a platform to "infect" others with their delirium.
  23. +9
    24 January 2014 09: 46
    I AM RUSSIAN ! and I didn’t spit on all svanidze and the like .. And I won’t let them pick their dirty fingers in my soul trying to pick it out!
  24. +4
    24 January 2014 09: 48
    "brought from outside and found fertile soil inside our country, did its dirty deed of bloody fragmentation of the state in 1917 and 1991. As a fact: today there are forces trying to repeat the success of their predecessors ..."

    This began even earlier, during the time of the forcible baptism of Russia, by the bloody cogan Vladimir, perverted to the prince presented to us.
    I am Russian. Unlike mishandled Svanidze. I have the honor.
  25. +14
    24 January 2014 09: 49
    In my opinion, you just need to separate the concepts of Russian (nationality) and Russian, not "Russian", but Russian, as a citizen of the country. And I am Russian, although I am Chuvash :)
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    2. 225chay
      +8
      24 January 2014 09: 58
      Quote: avaria30
      In my opinion, it is just necessary to separate the concepts of Russian (nationality) and Russian, not "Russian", namely Russian, as a citizen of the country.
      And I'm Russian, even though Chuvash :)


      All indigenous, all who love our Motherland, are proud of it and ready to give our lives for it all OUR!
      And those who pour slops to our Motherland, which gave them shelter, many of which with Russian surnames, are ENEMIES!
    3. +6
      24 January 2014 10: 19
      here you are mistaken
      the very concept of Russian for centuries of history has been associated with
      that the "Russians" lived constantly, united with someone of a different nationality.
      The same Latvians (for example) were also once Russian, Russian and part of Russia, the USSR. And they were called Russian for their commitment to the ideas of relationships with
      other nations, inherent only to Russian. We are not fixated on the search - how to rob or enslave or slave whom, are quite satisfied with equality.
      It is this that is an integral part of the very concept of "Russian"
      But equality must be understood correctly. The Russians, as a uniting and "forming" nation, often bear a much greater burden and responsibility than those of small nationalities, and no one has canceled the fact that rights correspond to responsibility.
      That is why I believe that it is not completely correct to mathematically completely align rights within the country, ignoring other factors.
      For example, I have Jewish acquaintances. I know for sure that none of them will ever be a hero in border conflicts, when they have to "fulfill their duty", they have other interests. On the contrary, the Chechens will not shy away from duty, but they will indulge themselves in peacetime with all sorts of antics that will test the patience of others.
      And only Russians are expected to do the right thing in all situations, often forgetting about their desires. It is the fulfillment of this responsibility that gives the moral right to claim some leadership.
      But this question, which is clear both in tsarist Russia and in the USSR, is now cunningly and constantly moving into the far corner, which leads to the brazen and cynical exploitation of the Russian majority and inevitably raises the national question.
    4. +2
      24 January 2014 10: 59
      just need to return the correct spelling of nationality - Rus.
      And there will be no need to invent a "Russian society", "Russian nation", etc. liberoid names. Everything will fall into place - the Russian society, which is formed by the Russians and other indigenous peoples who are citizens of our country and the Russian nation, the concept of which will include not only identity based on nationality, but also a cultural, mental community.
    5. +1
      24 January 2014 14: 42
      Quote: avaria30
      In my opinion, you just need to separate the concepts of Russian (nationality) and Russian, not "Russian", but Russian, as a citizen of the country. And I am Russian, although I am Chuvash :)

      That's right. In the USA, for example, everyone considers themselves Americans, even though the Chinese.
    6. 120352
      +2
      24 January 2014 16: 18
      You are certainly Russian, because you consider yourself so!
  26. +5
    24 January 2014 09: 52
    Mr. Idze, I’m used to codify the Russian People. For him, Russian is like a red rag for a bull. I think this Russophobia from his diapers. He would work with his worldview in the CIA (although it may be so). He is poor, already shaking all over with hatred, not only towards Soviet, but also towards Russian society. Such a whole, ghoul of the swamp world.
  27. +1
    24 January 2014 09: 54
    "Russian-drunkards, savages and (lack of moral principles)" - the opinions of 99% of the "Saxons"
    and why?
    Are we like that?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CoNuCuNEPY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sL3wOS9uZU
  28. +8
    24 January 2014 09: 55
    Svanidze, Alekseyev and others like them kicked out of the country for anti-Russian activities. Let the West pour balm on the dead souls of local bourgeoisie about how wild and uncivilized subhuman we are here.
    Take away the holy name "Nikolai", leave only the nickname "KarlOvich" or "Slonidze".
    1. Old Cynic
      +2
      24 January 2014 10: 14
      Svonidze, I think, is his "maiden" surname ... From you you understand what word.
      1. 120352
        +4
        24 January 2014 16: 22
        Maiden name ... But is he married? Who needs such a goat on the farm ?!
    2. +4
      24 January 2014 11: 05
      Yeah, having previously deprived of Russian citizenship, and making Dima Yakovlev on the same list so that these nits did not go backward.
  29. Pit
    Pit
    +9
    24 January 2014 09: 57
    Damn, and then I who, not Russian or what?
    In my blood there are Khokhly, Tatars, Belarus, not counting Russians, and these are only those whom I know for four generations. From here it turns out that I am Russian-Tatar-Hohlabelarus or something !? fellow
    All these phobes, you need to either settle in the yellow houses, or a suitcase-station- (well, then they themselves understood)
    1. Fox
      +4
      24 January 2014 10: 29
      dear Pete, if you dig deeper, then you have nothing foreign. All the "nations" listed by you are essentially the same Rus. (unless the Tatars are Crimean, they are the Khazars)
    2. 120352
      +1
      24 January 2014 16: 26
      I already wrote that the Russian people have 3 components: Little Russians (those who have been called Ukrainians since 1898) + Belarusians + Great Russians. And with the Tatars in kinship for five hundred years already! Do you identify with yourself? So you are RUSSIAN. And do not complicate your self-name.
      1. Pit
        Pit
        0
        29 January 2014 07: 05
        In fact, at that moment, I was naughty. I know that I am Rus and none of me
        this will not corrode. As for the Tatar roots, they were
        Volga, and they differ from us only in that they sided with Islam.
        And also, I believe that in order to become Russian, pure
        blood and birthright. Awareness of self-choice is required. Who to
        say an example that Pushkin was not Russian? Or Stalin?
        One day, after the end of World War II, at a banquet,
        near Stalin they planted (I don’t remember the name) a Georgian poet or
        a writer. And that, in order to impress Stalin with all the toasts
        spoke Georgian and addressed to Stalin, also in Georgian. On the
        that Stalin said: "He is stupid, he thinks he is talking to a Georgian, but
        I have long been Russian. "
        So, to be Russian, it will not be born, but to be!
  30. +5
    24 January 2014 09: 58
    I am Russian! A citizen of Svanidze and others like him would do well to determine his national identity.

    There is nothing to be determined Svanidtsa Jew, this scum hates the Slavs, he has a genetic memory at the level of the subconscious as well as Chubais.
    I am also Russian and proud of it and our task is to remove the yoke of the Jews from the leadership of the country
  31. +1
    24 January 2014 10: 02
    This Russophobia got!
    Once in one of the forums dedicated to England and the British, I read
    exchange of opinions about the British and their national character. So there are two matrons (Russians)
    talked about their English hahalyah .. In the sense that they say, hahaly, these are so simple
    and modest ... Well, okay, let them be good ... But why did one of the matrons miss the Russians
    d ... om saying that they (Russians) ".. are such pontovers."
    Yes, all nations have flaws! But why praising some, we scold others ?????
    Why are there such matrons among us ... who are always ready to throw mud at the culture to which they belong ...?
    It seems to me that only here in Russia (which is very regrettable) they worshiped the West. Not knowing how to value their Culture .. and as N. Starikov says: "Russian civilization"!
    1. +4
      24 January 2014 11: 19
      Quote: amicus
      Why are there such matrons among us ... who are always ready to throw mud at the culture to which they belong ...?


      Bl .., sorry, matron, no nationality, under whom lies that nationality negative
    2. tatkali
      -3
      24 January 2014 11: 52
      But these matrons are not far from the truth.
    3. tatkali
      -2
      24 January 2014 11: 52
      But these matrons are not far from the truth.
      1. jjj
        +1
        24 January 2014 14: 29
        Only the good word "matron" should not be mixed with anything
        1. 0
          24 January 2014 16: 21
          Quote: jjj
          Only the good word "matron" should not be mixed with anything


          Nameless friend, what are you talking about and to whom?
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  32. groin
    +9
    24 January 2014 10: 03
    I’m a man. I’m a man of Russian nationality, I live in Kazakhstan, was born in Russia and my friends are people of Russian, Kazakh, German, Chechen, Uigur and many other nationalities. Nobody has canceled human. What are you arguing about? Don’t pay attention to the moron and the Nazis - IT'S ONLY AND NECESSARY.
  33. caxapob
    +6
    24 January 2014 10: 03
    Kagal cosmopolitan wants complete power over an impersonal crowd. Jew-Georgian Svanidze - shout kagala.
  34. amigo1969
    +7
    24 January 2014 10: 05
    This is just a manifestation of impotent anger !!! How many years have they been trying to erase from life the words "Russian", "Russian language", "Russian nation" .. And the effect, to my great joy, is the opposite !!! The people are increasingly beginning to attach meaning to these words and openly declare their nationality (despite all the so-called extremist articles of the Criminal Code ..). The "ingenious" statements of the Kremlin inmates that the Kulikovo battle is supposedly a local showdown and civil war, or about the massive heroism of the peoples of the Caucasus in the Great Patriotic War - cause only irritation and indignation in normal people (most of whom are in Russia)! The clowns will play out ... History develops in a spiral - let them learn the terms "Russian revolt" and "revolution" ...
  35. +5
    24 January 2014 10: 13
    Now you can be a representative of any minority, but if you are a representative of the majority, and openly declare this, then you are a racist / homophobe, etc. ((
  36. slon53
    +8
    24 January 2014 10: 16
    Well, when will the state channel in Russia be exactly the STATE one, i.e. primarily reflect the opinion of the majority of Russian citizens, and not these "Svanidze and others like them"
    1. olviko
      +7
      24 January 2014 11: 59
      "Well, when will our state channel in Russia be STATE, that is, first of all, reflect the opinion of the majority of Russian citizens, and not these" Svanidze and others like them. "
  37. +6
    24 January 2014 10: 20
    Today I will write on the fence: "Svanidze is SVINIDZE". Damn it, seems to have made a mistake somewhere, or is everything correct?
  38. Fox
    +8
    24 January 2014 10: 24
    a little from life ... Togliatti 2010 year. morning. the inscriptions appeared on the fence "artyakov-3.14doras!" (the governor was then in the Samara region) and "Russian means sober." , but about the Russians, painted over.
    1. +3
      24 January 2014 10: 30
      Then the inscription Svanidze - 3,14doras will remain for a long time.
  39. +7
    24 January 2014 10: 46
    The Russian people bear the main burden of creating, augmenting lands and protecting the Russian state. Nursery to look at the ethnic composition of the Russian army, the overwhelming majority are Russian servicemen. It should be understood that they include both Belarusians and Ukrainians and people of other nationalities for whom the word "Russian" is a native word. For Svanidze this concept is alien, alien. That is why he is afraid of the word "Russian".
  40. +8
    24 January 2014 10: 49
    Russian is a state of mind, and not nationality ... Therefore, people who are floating on the river of life, who are normal even in this looking-glass beyond the boundaries of the West, are nailed to the Russian Bank.
    1. +1
      24 January 2014 10: 54
      Nope
      "Russian" is rather a set of ideal ideas about life
      100% few who match
      it’s just that traditionally Russians had the highest percentage of compliance
      at the same time, Barclay Do Tolly or Rokossovsky, representatives of other titular nations,
      became so close to this ideal that they could be called Russian.
      This was the strength of the Russian Empire.

      I myself am formally Russian half, half Belarus, but I call myself Russian, meaning the above. And in the USSR, many called themselves Russian for the same reason. Although there were frank careerists who called themselves Russian, because it is profitable.
      1. 225chay
        0
        24 January 2014 16: 51
        Quote: yehat
        I myself am formally Russian half, half Belarus, but I call myself Russian, meaning


        even if a quarter of the Serbs and the remaining three quarters are Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, then what is the proof of the axiom?
        these are all Slavs - one people!
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  41. +1
    24 January 2014 10: 49
    Fence as Aboriginal Media.
    Their time passes. They, for many centuries, having the sole right to disseminate and interpret information, controlled the minds of enslaved peoples. BUT with the advent of the Internet, they have lost such an opportunity. The Internet has become that very fence where people are able to express their thoughts and be heard by like-minded people. A new information space has already been formed that does not belong to them. Their end is near!
  42. +2
    24 January 2014 10: 57
    M-YES! It is good that he did not see the inscriptions on the fences that it was necessary to eradicate the dominance of people of Jewish nationality and the lawlessness of immigrants from the Caucasian regions and countries in the Slavic country by the method of physical and psychological elimination of these wink
    It seems that he did not offend anyone and did not use the words "hated by many" wink
    PS "The dog barks, but the caravan moves on"
  43. +1
    24 January 2014 10: 58
    Russophobia: a disease or a destructive method?

    This is envy. Russia (and it is associated, naturally, with Russians) has everything in terms of resources, and they cannot take it away (try to shove)!
    1. tatkali
      -4
      24 January 2014 11: 55
      And what should they select? After all, the Russians themselves are robbing each other.
    2. tatkali
      -1
      24 January 2014 11: 55
      And what should they select? After all, the Russians themselves are robbing each other.
      1. +5
        24 January 2014 13: 26
        Quote: tatkali
        And what should they select? After all Russians rob each other.

  44. +5
    24 January 2014 11: 02
    I am proud of my Russian and Ukrainian roots. I am proud that I am Russian. I am proud of the people to which I belong and my country (not about the state). I am proud of Russian history.
    And I don’t give a damn from the high bell tower, whoever thinks about me there. Let her even break her brains. And if they are afraid, then it is no accident. Let them be afraid.
  45. +2
    24 January 2014 11: 03
    <<< Russophobia: a disease or a destructive technique >>>
    Today we can definitely say that this is a DISEASE, and the disease is infectious! The most dangerous for Russian society is an incurable form of the disease, which is often inherited! It is useless to try to convince patients with an incurable form of Russophobia, no therapy will help here, but rather, on the contrary, the patient will spread the infection (especially since Western virologists pay well for this) and infect healthy members of Russian society who have weakened immunity, for example, forever dissatisfied, but not a few of them! So Russophobes will immediately explain who is to blame for their dissatisfaction, that they are so bad! So only SURGERY! Russophobia should be deprived of the opportunity to occupy posts in the public authorities of Russia that allow them to spread Russophobia infection in society!
    1. olviko
      +2
      24 January 2014 12: 02
      "Today we can definitely say that this is a DISEASE, and, moreover, an infectious disease!"
      1. 225chay
        +2
        24 January 2014 14: 17
        Quote: olviko
        "Today we can definitely say that this is a DISEASE, and, moreover, an infectious disease!"


        Is this Simonyan an Armenian or a "talented" one? or is it the same thing?
        1. 120352
          -1
          24 January 2014 16: 35
          She is a crossbreed. Mongrels with a street dog.
  46. +5
    24 January 2014 11: 08
    Why are you all on emotions? And if you approach sensibly, the same Svanidze is attracted under Article 282. And the fact that the goat was called the goat, so he will not be offended, but will continue to pour mud on the Russians. Therefore, with such need their own weapons.
  47. +2
    24 January 2014 11: 08
    <<< Russophobia: a disease or a destructive technique >>>
    Today we can definitely say that this is a DISEASE, and the disease is infectious!

    Therefore, patients should be isolated from society.
  48. +5
    24 January 2014 11: 18
    erase memory, destroy identity, self-awareness is the goal of this bastard.
    I am Russian! And always it will be to them, no matter how hard it is, my children, and the children of my children, etc.
  49. +3
    24 January 2014 11: 19
    Easier to erase such as Svanidze.
  50. +4
    24 January 2014 11: 22
    I can’t take Svanidze seriously, he went off the coils, a clown without a circus, the same story with a hokamada.
  51. down
    -1
    24 January 2014 11: 33
    A titular nation is a part of the population of a state or subject of a federation, the nationality of which determines the official name of this state.
    Titular nation in Russia.
    This concept and its definition are excluded from the legislation of the Russian Federation as
    having, in essence, a declarative nature and legally incorrect
  52. +6
    24 January 2014 11: 48
    When I see Svanidze on the TV screen, I say: “Thank you to the author who invented the remote control for changing channels?”
    About Russophobia...they are different.
    There is an external... European one, genetically laid down due to the constant fear of huge Russia... and its power... There is an external one, specially inflated as a means of dishonest struggle in the economic sphere..
    There is an internal Russophobia .. and here they are different .. Some are on a “salary” .. so they puff themselves up .. others inflate it in order to become leaders of certain groups and have the best pieces of food. conveniences... at the expense of others.. Maybe I'm wrong.. But, in my opinion, all nations are good.. and each nation is unique in its own way.
  53. +3
    24 January 2014 11: 54
    But, in my opinion, all nations are good... and each nation is unique in its own way.

    I agree with you, but for some reason some people consider themselves better and more unique. You don't have to look far for examples.
    1. +1
      24 January 2014 14: 37
      peoples... v53993 (2) RU Today, 11:54 "but for some reason some consider themselves better and more unique.."
      ...for some...the disease of small nations...I want to be significant..
      ..others...they are cunning and adapt to cruel reality..again at the genetic level...evolved over millennia....
  54. SKVS
    +6
    24 January 2014 11: 58
    It’s nice to see that more and more people not only talk among themselves about their national self-identification, but also write articles, participate in “Russian Marches” and in short are not afraid to have an active life position and express it openly. Stolypin wrote that a people without national self-awareness is like “manure” on which other peoples grow. The Russians have long proven to everyone, with their centuries-old history, that being a national state, they in no way infringed on the interests of other peoples that were part of the Russian Empire, and later the USSR. They did not usurp, did not take away their originality, did not Christianize Muslims, Buddhists and many other representatives of different faiths. These clumsy gentlemen Svanidze and others like them are ridiculous with their attempts to accuse the Russians of fascism, etc. Russian nationalism, please do not confuse it with Nazism and chauvinism, is the core around which the peoples of our country have rallied, and it will continue to be so. Glory to Russia!!!
    1. 225chay
      +1
      24 January 2014 17: 02
      Quote: SKVS
      .These clumsy gentlemen Svanidze and others like them are ridiculous with their attempts to accuse the Russians of fascism, etc.


      They are not "clumsy and funny"
      they purposefully and deliberately carry out work to fool the population, distort the truth, and belittle the role of our people. I say ours, because Svonidze is clearly a stranger, foreign, and one might say an enemy element for our country
  55. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    +5
    24 January 2014 12: 35
    Svinidze is as “thick” as most of the journalists. It is surprising that these “objective and impartial” people take upon themselves the right to publicly (i.e., counting on influencing the mass audience) to give independent ASSESSMENTS and do not bear ANY RESPONSIBILITY.
  56. calocha
    +4
    24 January 2014 12: 43
    It’s not for Jews to judge Russia! They’ve given free rein, so all sorts of Svanidzes and the like will become impudent... It must be stated that the Russians are the fundamental nation-the foundation of the Russian state! Otherwise, it seems like they are not masters in their country. It is very important not to go too far in the matter of nationalism! !!
  57. +4
    24 January 2014 12: 56
    People like Svanidze’s shortfalls are in the majority in the State Duma. Two questions remain to be answered:
    1. Why do we, Russians, need such a Duma?
    2. How did a crook like Svanidze get there? It’s unlikely that we picked them up.
  58. +2
    24 January 2014 13: 02
    As usual, thank you very much to Alexey for the article! But when I read something like this
    Nikolai Svanidze said with extreme irritation that on one of the fences near Moscow he read the inscription “I am Russian.” Nikolai Karlovich, as it turned out then, was agitated by the question: why could someone just go ahead and allow himself to write the mentioned phrase on the fence, and, quote: “what did he do to be Russian?”
    -I always have such a desire to dig into the brains of such an utterer with a spatula or something else they dig into, in order to understand: “Where does all THIS come from??” Maybe at birth it’s somehow possible to sort out such specimens?
    1. +3
      24 January 2014 15: 12
      Quote: retired
      -I always have such a desire to delve into the brains of such a speaker with a spatula or something else they dig in order to understand

      Wow, I recommend it
      blacksmith chisel, don’t think twice, I know what I’m recommending, my dad is a blacksmith.
      Hi Yuri hi
  59. +8
    24 January 2014 13: 11
    "The discussions with the enemy are over,
    We will rise again, a feat of grief
    Russia, Ukraine, Belarus - the Slavic tribes are three heroes!!!
    Narrow roads lead us to Christ, we know death, persecution and captivity,
    We are Russian, we are Russian, we are Russian, we will still rise from our knees!!!"
    From the song by J. Bichevskaya
  60. +3
    24 January 2014 13: 41
    I'm traveling through the Voronezh region. On the brick wall there are inscriptions “The Caucasus rules”, “Dagestan is strong” (written in Russian). Your comments Mr. Svanidze.
  61. jin777
    +2
    24 January 2014 13: 50
    We all need to stop being ashamed of our nationalities and then we will be able to cut the ground from under the feet of Russophobes of all stripes, both Russian and non-Russian by nationality.
  62. +1
    24 January 2014 13: 56
    The more such statements are discussed, the more the rating of all sorts of Svanidjas increases...
    It doesn't matter to the rating whether it's positive or negative...

    In my opinion, you should just forget about it - the dog likes, the caravan moves on...
    1. 0
      24 January 2014 14: 13
      Quote: DanaF1
      In my opinion, you should just forget about it - the dog likes, the caravan moves on...

      When the caravan turns back, the lame camel becomes the first.
      If a pug barks at an elephant, then this barking can be ignored, but if there is no elephant, then the pug can outshine the whole world...
      1. -1
        24 January 2014 14: 20
        Quote: Boris55
        When the caravan turns back, the lame camel becomes the first.

        a caravan is not an electric train laughing

        Quote: Boris55
        if there is no elephant, then the pug can outshine the whole world...

        do you think there is no elephant?

        "Do you see the gopher?
        - No
        - and I am not, but he is"
        1. 120352
          0
          24 January 2014 16: 41
          This is all subjective idealism, solipsism, one might say...
  63. +4
    24 January 2014 13: 56
    And here is Russophobia and the revolution of 17, raise such questions less,a person where he was born and must benefit his small homeland, and we are forced to move to look for work, they take it away from the one who lives there,we were never nomads and there is no need to force entire nations to do this
    1. 120352
      +3
      24 January 2014 16: 42
      There were NO Russians among the leaders of the 17 revolution!!!
  64. +10
    24 January 2014 14: 18
    "The Russians are walking through the darkness of pagan centuries,
    The Russians are walking through a host of defeated enemies,
    The Russians are coming, liberating the Third Rome,
    Russians are going to Heavenly Jerusalem...
    The Russians are coming and the lights are turning on,
    The Russians are coming to remind the Russians who they are,
    The Russians are moving forward, with hearts of the highest quality,
    Russians spit on the power of America and Europe..."
    From the song by J. Bichevskaya
  65. Stasi
    +7
    24 January 2014 14: 26
    If it were up to me, I would order the gathering of all these Russophobes, Messrs. Svinidze, Alekseevs and the like. He took away Russian passports and put them on a flight to the nearest Western country, let them crucify their Russophobia there. While such bipeds, their name is Aliens, sit in the Duma, the Federation Council, the Public Chamber and other organizations, there can be no talk of any national idea uniting our multinational people. Strangers will not let it come true. It’s just a pity that in our country there is no effective counteraction to all this propaganda and the undeclared war unleashed by Aliens.
    1. -2
      24 January 2014 14: 30
      Quote: Stasi
      If it were up to me, I would order the gathering of all these Russophobes, Messrs. Svinidze, Alekseevs and the like. He took away Russian passports and put them on a flight to the nearest Western country, let them crucify their Russophobia there.

      this has already happened... the result was the collapse of the country in 91...

      to resist the virus, you need to produce antibodies... the Russophobic hysteria of democrats is such antibodies...
      1. +2
        24 January 2014 15: 28
        Quote: DanaF1
        it already happened

        It was fundamentally different. On the “philosophical ships” the flower, or rather the remnants of the flower of the Russian nation, were sent into exile. As Bronstein and company said: “There’s no reason to shoot, and you can’t leave.” But the expulsion of Svanidze, Alekseeva and others will not cause damage to Russia, and if they begin their “educational” activities overseas, then maybe we’ll pour them a glass too lol
        1. +1
          24 January 2014 15: 46
          Quote: colonel
          It was fundamentally different. On the “philosophical ships” the flower, or rather the remnants of the flower of the Russian nation, were sent into exile.

          I’m talking to you about the 90s of the 20th century, and not about the 20s...
          the difference is significant...

          because of the Iron Curtain, many seriously believed that life was really better in the West, we did not know the truth that we know now...
          but even this truth has to be reminded periodically, and who will do this better than our home-grown rabid democrats?
          You’ll look at them and think: what the hell, what the hell...
    2. 225chay
      +2
      24 January 2014 17: 06
      Quote: Stasi
      While such bipeds, their name is Aliens, sit in the Duma, the Federation Council, the Public Chamber and other organizations, there can be no talk of any national idea uniting our multinational people. Strangers will not let it come true. It’s just a pity that in our country there is no effective counteraction to all this propaganda and the undeclared war unleashed by Aliens.


      You are right like no one else ++....
    3. Andrey Ulyanovsky
      +1
      24 January 2014 17: 29
      There won't be enough barges to take everyone out, Pavel. It is better to fertilize the soil with carcasses in the tundra.
      1. Stasi
        +2
        24 January 2014 19: 28
        In the barge, if my memory serves me correctly, on the orders of Hitler, criminal businessmen, disabled people, mentally disabled people and other elements were rounded up from all over Germany in the 30s. This barge was taken to the Baltic and scuttled. We are not going to do this to our cosmopolitan liberals, so why make martyrs out of them. It is better to simply take away their Russian passports, put them on a plane and deport them to the West, especially since many of them have both American and other foreign passports.
        1. 0
          24 January 2014 19: 59
          Quote: Stasi
          I'm telling you about the 90s of the 20th century

          And in the 90s, was anyone expelled??? Dana, who fled when the country was in difficult times is a deserter, but not a sufferer.
        2. 0
          24 January 2014 20: 02
          Stasi, culprit. I quoted DanyF1, but they wrote you. I didn’t understand anything. sad
          1. Stasi
            +1
            24 January 2014 22: 11
            Everything is fine, no offense. Just read the comments more carefully and without haste.
        3. 120352
          0
          26 January 2014 00: 35
          The practice of using barges for the purpose you indicated was used in our country earlier than in Germany. As you probably know, Prime Minister Medvedev lived in St. Petersburg on Bela Kun Street. This Hungarian internationalist was very fond of using this method to drown our cadets and wounded officers during the Civil War. There were several such barges. He is also known as a pederast and a thief. The street still bears his name.
  66. dmb
    +3
    24 January 2014 14: 26
    Dear A. Volodin. You're fine, but sometimes you blurt it out. I’m talking about 1917, and about ’91 too. The background of the 17th was clearly on a social rather than a national plane. For the Goers and Ginzburgs, the Mantashevs and Dadianis, the Brodskys and Yuzes, whatever one may say, were on the side of the “Orthodox army”, and did not fight at all under the Red Banner. And in 91, along with the Chubais, Burbulises and Dudaevs, the country was completely destroyed by Shakhrai, Lobov, Shumeiko and other “fighters for the rights of Russians.”
    1. -2
      24 January 2014 14: 31
      Quote: dmb
      The background of the 17th was clearly on a social rather than a national plane.

      just the opposite...
      Do you remember about the Jewish pogroms?
    2. +3
      24 January 2014 16: 11
      Dmitry, this time your view of the problem is too narrow (as, perhaps, mine too), and the problem in fact always turns out to be broader than any judgment about it (even the most extensive). If the events in the same Baltic states (1989-1991) were not cultivated on the basis of introduced Russophobia, then you can throw a stone at me.
      1. +2
        24 January 2014 17: 17
        Quote: Volodin
        If the events in the same Baltic states (1989-1991) were not cultivated on the basis of introduced Russophobia,

        not only in the Baltic states...
        What was going on in Central Asia?
      2. dmb
        +1
        24 January 2014 19: 14
        Dear Volodin. “The staple is wider than Stendhal,” is an old joke. So why do you isolate the narrowest, most controversial point when assessing the problem? By the way, you did not react in any way to the 17th year; apparently you agree that the revolution was not carried out to destroy the Russian people, but rather for their benefit, because otherwise you will have to deny all subsequent achievements. Now for the Baltic states, and at the same time for Central Asia, which the young creature mentioned. Although it mentioned the Jewish pogroms, why it was done is apparently a mystery to her. Unlike creation, you are most likely familiar with the concept of Russian fascism. Barkashov did not particularly hide the fact that he was one. So this fascism is absolutely no different from the Baltic and Central Asian ones. (Fascism, as you understand, is a general concept. I know many Latvians and Lithuanians who were declared enemies of the Lithuanian and Latvian peoples only because they fought for the preservation of the USSR (equally as I know the same Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians and Chechens). In addition, I know a lot of Russians (including in the Baltic states) who made a lot of money from the collapse of the country. So (don’t take this as self-praise), I think that in my opinion the “width” corresponds to the problem.
        1. 0
          24 January 2014 20: 04
          I understood your opinion, but I didn’t change mine.

          And the pronoun “it” in relation to the female gender - somehow, you know, it doesn’t sound good coming from your lips...

          By the way, you didn’t react in any way to the 17th year
          If I start reacting to every episode of comments, then I’m afraid you will have to send me milk “for being harmful.”
          1. dmb
            0
            24 January 2014 21: 08
            "young creature" can only be "it". This is a rule of the Russian language, and not a sexual orientation at all.
  67. +2
    24 January 2014 14: 47
    Nikolai Karlovich,
    It’s a revelation to me that he is “Karlovich”. Those. this goat... is to blame, it's smh.. no, no, this creature is not even Georgian. Georgians, no offense, I'm doing research. And it opens its mouth to the Russians!!! and it still lives and is tolerated in Russia!!! As one of Simonov’s heroes said: “I would become the commander of a penal company, if only they would give me Svanidze under command”
    1. 0
      24 January 2014 17: 56
      Quote: colonel
      Georgians, no offense, I'm doing research.

      Do research on who Stalin was, because Joseph is not a Georgian name, but a Jewish one.
      1. +2
        24 January 2014 19: 54
        Yeah, my father’s name is Mikhail, which is also not Greek. And what???
      2. PPL
        +1
        24 January 2014 23: 49
        ... who was Stalin, because Joseph is not a Georgian name, but a Jewish one

        There is no need to reach the point of idiocy:
        "It's hard to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if it's not there."
        Stalin's mother is a deeply religious person. At baptism, her son received the name that the priest of the Georgian Orthodox Church gave him. Or are you in doubt?
        1. -1
          24 January 2014 23: 59
          Quote: PPZ
          At baptism, her son received the name that the priest of the Georgian Orthodox Church gave him.

          Well, anything can be justified. There’s no need to make excuses, I’m not blaming anyone, it’s not a crime to have a Jewish name (in Palestine they wouldn’t agree with me am ).
          1. PPL
            0
            25 January 2014 00: 13
            ...no need to make excuses...

            The one who is guilty is acquitted, and this is not my case - rather yours:
            ...I don't blame anyone...
            .
            Yes, and you probably know better about Palestine; I didn’t write anything about it. lol
  68. +7
    24 January 2014 14: 51
    I am Russian! And let citizen Svanidze better determine his nationality, whether he is a Jew hiding behind a Georgian surname or someone else.

    Alice - Sky of the Slavs
    Starfall and the roar of lightning.
    Thunderstorms saddle horses
    But peace quietly pours above the earth
    Monasteries.
    And on top of gray clouds
    Blue Falcon Heights.
    Here under the cover of heaven
    We were born.

    A trail of deer licks frost
    Chases prey all day
    But keeps a cold in check
    Smoke of the villages.
    Hopping snowstorm snowdrifts
    The daughter of a white-toothed winter.
    Here in the snow
    We grew up.

    The seed of the horde is sharpening us
    We are oppressed by the yoke of Basurman,
    But in our veins is boiling
    The sky of the Slavs.
    And from Peipsi shores
    To the ice Kolyma.
    All this is our land!
    All of this is us!

    Forging axes over the hill
    Wild heads slice
    But the aliens chain mail rings
    Russian speech.
    And from the copulation to the stars
    The White Army rises.
    Here on the home side
    We die.

    The seed of the horde is sharpening us
    We are oppressed by the yoke of Basurman,
    But in our veins is boiling
    The sky of the Slavs.
    And from Peipsi shores
    To the ice Kolyma.
    All this is our land!
    All of this is us!

    The seed of the horde is sharpening us
    We are oppressed by the yoke of Basurman,
    But in our veins is boiling
    The sky of the Slavs.
    And from Peipsi shores
    To the ice Kolyma.
    All this is our land!
    All of this is us!
    1. +1
      24 January 2014 18: 21
      One of my favorite songs!

    2. +2
      24 January 2014 18: 23
      This one is great too!

      1. 0
        24 January 2014 18: 29
        Quote: concept1
        This one is great too!

        Good topic+
  69. +1
    24 January 2014 15: 02
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    All-ringleaders and Russophobes - apples of one tree ...


    And here is the commentary of the not-so-shitty person on the article

    Rosnano - this is not a crime?


    sledgehammer102 (1) SU Today, 09:32 ↑
    Quote: makarov
    Certainly not criminality, only the structure is run by a red-haired beast, who has long been shining for life for "exploits" !!!!

    I think it doesn’t matter who they put there (it's about Chubais, how sweet...), the current article would have been published and the heap of criticism and screaming would not have gotten smaller. (lies and substitution of the real for the imaginary) After all, any decision by the authorities is wrong by default, (lies again, foreign policy successes are not denied) and all those who agree with her are ala-Poghosyans-strangling-the-aviation industry or ala-Bykovs-destroying-hockey, and it doesn’t matter what and how these people do. (an attempt to “hide” Chubais and the theft at Rusnano, Putin’s justification of this theft behind the real achievements of respected people, i.e. DEMAGOGY)

    As for Chubais, it’s time for him to retire and preferably away from his assets, his time is almost gone, and what’s left is melting before our eyes. (thief - retire, how is this not Putin’s way... he needs to be in another position)

    Italic mine.
  70. +1
    24 January 2014 15: 53
    Quote: Normal
    As for Chubais, it’s time for him to retire


    I don’t agree....What is this- on good terms???!!!, better "badly" and forever in Swanlandia, without the right to correspondence.
  71. +2
    24 January 2014 15: 58
    I AM RUSSIAN!
  72. +2
    24 January 2014 16: 26
    AND I AM RUSSIAN! Even though my mother is Ukrainian.
    1. 120352
      +2
      24 January 2014 18: 14
      Mom is actually a Little Russian, a representative of one of the three components of the Russian nation = civilization: Little Russians, Belarusians, Great Russians. The concept of Ukrainian as an ethnonym was invented by Otto von Bismarck to divide the united Russian people in 1898, and it began to be used in the Austro-Hungarian army in 1916. Before that, Lesya Ukrainka, Taras Shevchenko and everyone who lived in those places called themselves Little Russians . The word Ukraine originally meant the outskirts of Russian lands, and Ukrainians were those who are today called border guards, that is, those who guarded this outskirts. However, read Olesya Buzina, an interesting author-historian from Kyiv. He explains everything in detail. In particular, he once again proves the unity and integrity of our people, proving that Little Russians or modern Ukrainians are the same Russians.
  73. +4
    24 January 2014 16: 46
    “The question of who is a Russian can only arise from a non-Russian” Boris Mironov.
  74. +7
    24 January 2014 17: 31
    I am not a Georgian prince, I am a Russian GENERAL! Bagration spoke, as well as Bruce, Kruzenshtern, Lassi, Stark, Barclay de Tolly, Kolchak, Essen, Ronenkampf, Minich, and thousands of others who put their strength and life on the altar of the Russian Fatherland. I don’t think that Mr. Svanidze and the company would have found like-minded people among them. I'm afraid that they wouldn't shake hands. Something like this.
  75. Svar
    +2
    24 January 2014 17: 37
    The word Russian for Russians is will, strength and sword. That is why Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov cried out: “We are Russians! What delight! The Jews, understanding this with their selfish minds, correctly calculated how vitally important it was for them to crumble, crush, smear, deprive of national strength and spirit is the foundation stone of the Russian soul! “So every mouse that has bred in a stable can call itself a horse.”
  76. +3
    24 January 2014 17: 39
    Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
    I am Russian, and Svanidze and others like them were born goats (by nationality) and will die as goats.

    Mr. Svanidze, as a true descendant of Khazaria, suffers from genetic fears and, as is their custom, they immediately aggressively complain about any manifestation of Russianness, angrily recalling Article 282 that they pushed through.
  77. +5
    24 January 2014 17: 46
    The Great Russian Commander Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov, in a conversation with Paul the First, a convinced Germanophile, said: “I am proud that I am Russian.” Now, probably, Svinidze and Co. would have declared him an inveterate chauvinist and nationalist.
  78. +1
    24 January 2014 17: 53
    Quote: Ascetic
    A typical example of a Russian nationalist is the leader of the Movement Against Illegal Migration (DPNI).





    The leader of the Movement Against Illegal Immigration, Belov-Potkin-Katz (father - Katz Lev Moiseevich taught at a Jewish religious school; mother - Kogan Maria Abramovna was a housewife; stepfather - senior ensign Ivan Alekseevich Potkin) is a vile provocateur. This Belov-Potkin-Katz lives on Belkovsky’s money. Such is Russia for Russians! It has not grown together with internationalism, now the descendants of Trotsky are betting on nationalism.

    That’s why “they” organize Gus nationalism as a fight against migrants, because in fact they are afraid of something else:
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/517/vyqn539.jpg
  79. go
    +3
    24 January 2014 18: 09
    The question is that the Russian Federation is a multi-ethnic state. If you do not recognize this, then you need to understand that the rest of the so-called national. The republics that are part of the Russian Federation will not cooperate. Since the collapse of the USSR, the issue of forming a national no one was seriously involved in politics. In the USSR everyone was a Soviet citizen. The problem is that in Russia, consciously or not, the concept of ethnicity is being replaced by the concept of nationality. According to international principles and common sense, there should be one nationality in Russia - Russians. (That’s why, by the way, all Russian citizens abroad are called Russians, regardless of ethnic origin - you can be from the Caucasus or an Aleut, you will still be Russian - russian). As you know, there are many different ethnic groups in Russia. Just like in America, everyone is American, although there are also many ethnic groups there, in Germany everyone is German, while there are 15% Turks, and probably 30% Slavs. On the other hand, people living in one country must have one nationality, or they will not quite feel like citizens of one country. Therefore, there is an opinion that in Russia it would be possible to call everyone first of all Russian (by belonging to the country and some general worldview, and not by ethnicity), while ethnically a person can remain with his origin, i.e. for example, Russian-Slav, Russian-Tatar, Russian-Avar. At the same time, of course, there is no need to be ashamed of your nationality (belonging to the country and the culture common to the country), just as the same Germans, who have “the German people” written not on the fence, but on the Bundestag, or the Americans, who have every the bar says they are Americans.

    This option could possibly unite Russia. By the way, this is what they are doing now in the European Union, calling all citizens of different countries simply Europeans. By the way, at an unofficial level in Europe, Russians are also considered Europeans who, after 17, either moved, or died, or were simply transported to another dimension, creating the USSR. It used to be like this - Gogol is a great Russian writer, although he is from Ukraine, i.e. Slavic, Pushkin is a great Russian poet, although his father was an African from modern times. Eritrea, there is a monument to him there. Dahl is a great Russian philologist, although in my opinion he was Danish or German, etc.
    1. -2
      24 January 2014 19: 35
      Quote: go
      It used to be like this - Gogol is a great Russian writer, although he is from Ukraine, i.e. Slavic, Pushkin is a great Russian poet, although his father was an African from modern times. Eritrea, there is a monument to him there. Dahl is a great Russian philologist, although in my opinion he was Danish or German, etc.

      I would like to draw your attention to the fact that every “creator” lives and creates at the expense of someone. Pushkin did not work, but wrote poetry - he lived on the neck of the Russian peasant, Gogol, Dal and other “great” people of Russia they lived, ate, dressed, had a roof over their heads, at the expense of the Russian peasant. Foreigners do not come to grow bread and forge iron in Russia. Russian means hardworking, in our climate there is no other way to survive, and if he (no matter who) runs away from real work and the intelligentsia, then what kind of Russian is he? So, a foreigner living in Russia.
      1. go
        -1
        24 January 2014 20: 58
        Quote: Setrac
        Quote: go
        It used to be like this - Gogol is a great Russian writer, although he is from Ukraine, i.e. Slavic, Pushkin is a great Russian poet, although his father was an African from modern times. Eritrea, there is a monument to him there. Dahl is a great Russian philologist, although in my opinion he was Danish or German, etc.

        I would like to draw your attention to the fact that every “creator” lives and creates at the expense of someone. Pushkin did not work, but wrote poetry - he lived on the neck of the Russian peasant, Gogol, Dal and other “great” people of Russia they lived, ate, dressed, had a roof over their heads, at the expense of the Russian peasant. Foreigners do not come to grow bread and forge iron in Russia. Russian means hardworking, in our climate there is no other way to survive, and if he (no matter who) runs away from real work and the intelligentsia, then what kind of Russian is he? So, a foreigner living in Russia.


        No, that’s not true, it can get to the point where only workers and peasants have the right to eat. In this regard, there has already been one experiment on a national scale, exploiting similar feelings of people. Do you think the engineer doesn't work either? Who will make a combine harvester for a peasant? Everyone should do their own useful work. The main thing is to do it, and not sit on your fifth point.
        1. -1
          24 January 2014 21: 30
          Quote: go
          Who will make a combine harvester for a peasant?

          Worker?
          Quote: go
          Everyone should do their own useful work.

          "Black Square" is not the result that Malevich deserved a bowl of soup for himself.
          Quote: go
          Do you think the engineer doesn't work either?

          However, neither Pushkin, nor Gogol, nor Dal are engineers.
      2. 120352
        +1
        24 January 2014 23: 49
        Young man! You either never learned anything, or you are a provocateur for hire. Let me remind you that labor creates two types of values: material and spiritual. This relates to the question that Gogol, Pushkin, etc. sat on the shoulders of peasants. They created spiritual values, that is, values ​​of the highest order. (Read cultural studies for universities). And it is these people, as well as many others, in particular those who taught and treated you, who belong to the category of the intelligentsia, which, simplified, for you, may mean that these are people of intellectual labor. I don’t know how you would manage with doctors there if they also did physical labor (imagine a picture: a man comes from the field and climbs into your abdominal cavity with a scalpel to cut out a stomach ulcer).
        Can you imagine a violinist (or pianist) who forges iron from 8:00 to 17:00 and then plays music professionally?
        In fact, I have come across similar provocations more than once. It looks like a whole team is working here to break Russia, the goal of which is to drive a wedge between representatives of physical and other types of labor. Small. I do not believe!
        1. -1
          25 January 2014 00: 07
          Quote: 120352
          I don’t know how you would get along with the doctors if they also did physical labor.

          There is no need to distort, the work of a doctor is very material, or for example an engineer, or a scientist, unlike any “spiritual” producers.
          Quote: 120352
          Can you imagine a violinist (or pianist) who forges iron from 8:00 to 17:00 and then plays music professionally?

          So let him earn his living from the violin, if he is such a sought-after violinist, and does not live at the expense of the state - read at the expense of a simple hard worker, the tractor driver on the collective farm doesn't give a damn about your violinist.
          1. 120352
            +1
            26 January 2014 01: 03
            Well, what if the doctor is a psychiatrist? (By the way, contact me) Does he also live at the expense of someone? And in general, this division into spiritual and material was first noticed in philosophy only in the Age of Enlightenment, and they began to exploit it only in the mid-19th century. Around the time it became clear that “a ghost is haunting Europe, the ghost of communism.” (Marx K., Engels F. Manifesto of the Communist Party. - 1848.). By the way, in your thoughts you can read the ideas of primitive communism and anarchism (in particular: “He who does not work, neither does he eat” (Proudhon, anarchist)), condemned by the above-mentioned authors. In the extreme, your philosophy leads to the idea that everything spiritual (beautiful) is not needed, but felt boots, sheepskin coats and everything that is purely materially important is needed. Those. potatoes are good, apples are bad, because they are tasty, they awaken the taste buds, and this is already from the realm of the senses, i.e. spiritual. I’m simplistic, because there’s simply no time for a more detailed story. As for your tractor driver, who is unable to sense beauty, this impossibility only speaks of his lack of development and limitations as a person.
  80. 0
    24 January 2014 18: 17
    Still, how slowly Putin is getting rid of crap. Apparently there are reasons, but I really want to do it faster.
  81. 0
    24 January 2014 18: 27
    PEOPLE THIS IS JUST A MASTERPIECE!!!!!!!!!!!

  82. +1
    24 January 2014 18: 27
    Quote: yehat
    I think that you brought in vain Navalny in this list.
    He is more concerned with specific matters that can positively affect the general climate.

    Navalny, a graduate of Yeisk University, earns money spent by the State Department on mattress makers.
  83. Puffed up
    0
    24 January 2014 18: 36
    Oh how! They water Svanidze. And who is Svanidze? A louse or a bug. The main Russophobe is sitting in the Russians themselves. If I hadn’t sat there, I would have lived otherwise. They killed each other during the revolution. Russians hate Russians. There is no love. So everyone is at ease in Russia, except for Russians. And the Russians are either running after the pig or the gold. Which is called Taurus. Anyone who loves gold is a Russophobe. And Svanidze is a bug. And we Russians worship the dwarf. One dwarf is not enough for us. We worship both. And dwarfs love gold. Yes, young, dissolute girls. And we spit on our own Russians, who are for Rus', and betray them. I’ll go chop wood and light the stove. This is good for you in Moscow. You sit on the gas. But the dwarfs didn’t give us any gas. Our roads are all covered in snow. And the men drink moonshine. I also went online at night, they say Moscow will fail. Luzhkov built on empty spaces. In our village they say this is for sins.
    1. 0
      24 January 2014 19: 41
      Quote: Puffed
      They killed each other during the revolution. Russians hate Russians. There is no love.

      Stop lying about it. What kind of Russians killed Russians during the revolution? Jews and others from the future republics of the USSR are revolutionaries, interventionists - ENTENTE, limitrophes, LATVIAN Riflemen, not Smolensk and not Tver.

      Quote: Puffed
      In our village they say this is for sins.

      Don’t be lazy to indicate the name of your village! Washington? London?
      1. inc_non
        0
        24 January 2014 22: 50
        Quote: Lupercal

        And then the guys hiss at me - “don’t rock the boat”
        Just keep wearing pads and swallowing barley
        Since you've been behind their lobby, you've been bought by the State Department, London
        What do you want? Vodka and caps to heavy dubstep?
  84. +1
    24 January 2014 18: 58
    For the West, we are: Russians, Bashkirs, Nenets, Komi, Tatars, etc., all RUSSIAN.
    I don’t remember who said the phrase: anyone with a RUSSIAN SOUL can be considered Russian, this is confirmed by many facts from the history of Russia, and now there are such people. But there are also Russians by birth, but Russophobes at heart. There are those who are mistaken, but not many of them.
    And the debate about who is considered more Russian has been going on for centuries.
  85. komissar
    +3
    24 January 2014 19: 02
    I am an enic Komi-Zyryan, but I am RUSSIAN.
    1. +3
      24 January 2014 19: 38
      The word “Russian” means not only nationality, but also belonging to this spiritual society, a special way of life. Even Stalin began his autobiography with the words: “I, a Russian man of Georgian nationality.”
      1. inc_non
        -1
        24 January 2014 22: 14
        Another one. Then let's talk about Dahl, why are you "Russian" scared? Russians, right? No? Which is correct? Who has more pussies, those who call themselves an adjective or a noun?
        Quote: Project mutilation
        And today I have something to fuck up school for. After all, I’m going to hold a rally, just like that, for fun
  86. 0
    24 January 2014 20: 00
    I am Russian. What's wrong??? Chvanidze is probably jealous...
  87. +2
    24 January 2014 20: 01
    And how the Pigs will grunt about this:
    “Are the Russians the greatest people on Earth? Yes. Russian impudent persistence will sooner or later crush everything and everyone, even the Chinese. There are smarter peoples, there are smarter peoples, there are more organized peoples, there are richer peoples, there are more numerous peoples, but there are no people more persistent than the Russians "The Russians, having accelerated, broke everything - armies, peoples, countries, continents, outer space - and sooner or later the Russians will break the world." ©
    "And besides, every real Russian knows that the world belongs to him by right - it just remains to take this world. And sooner or later the Russian world will take it for itself." ©
  88. Puffed up
    0
    24 January 2014 20: 06
    The Russians have no repentance. And here on the site there are many hidden Russophobes. But they are camouflaging themselves. And many Russians are no longer Russians. Some will still wake up, but many will die as non-Russians.
    1. Andrey Ulyanovsky
      -3
      24 January 2014 20: 14
      Wow, do you need repentance? Here you have it according to Freud: I'll die as a non-Russian!
      1. Puffed up
        -1
        24 January 2014 21: 21
        Everyone needs repentance. Without repentance there will be no blessing. In our village before the revolution, wells were dug, and then only with a blessing. And now the Olympics, without a blessing, in a swamp, or in the subtropics, was cut down. There is no bottom there. Then everything will fail. Stalin then forbade the construction of an airfield there. The old people said that. He heated the stove at the top, it’s hot and it hurts, but at the bottom it’s blowing cold. You will have to sleep in a sleeping bag. Great frosts have set in. It’s hard to live in a village without gas.
        1. Andrey Ulyanovsky
          0
          24 January 2014 21: 46
          Which village are you, God forgive me, talking about? Holy fools have always been welcomed in Rus', don’t go too far! To whom to repent and for what???
          Here is my personal repentance for you:


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-6EfP9Iykw&list=LLhEfnxgFMB6VA87C8uPNLrw
        2. 120352
          +2
          24 January 2014 23: 55
          The question of my repentance is a question of my relationship with God, but not with Pyhlo the provocateur.
  89. +2
    24 January 2014 20: 28
    Svanidze? Fuck him, ok! Sock-baby.
  90. 11111mail.ru
    0
    24 January 2014 20: 30
    Gentlemen-comrades, the general condemnation of Mr. Svanidze N.K. approve and support! But with the former Tsar Peter I (Alekseevich Romanov), what will we do in the light of the condemnation of Russophobia? Who will raise a hand to vote that he is a "Russophile"?
  91. Orakyl
    +4
    24 January 2014 20: 33
    Beginning of the article: “Russian television journalist Nikolai Svanidze,” laughed to tears! he is as Russian as I am a Spanish pilot!!!! What he promotes on channels paid for by the United States in programs is written to him by the Anglo-Saxons. HE is not worthy of the title Russian! He is an enemy!
  92. +3
    24 January 2014 21: 06
    Well, what can you do, the guarantor of the Constitution has all his advisers and assistants mainly Svanidze, Chubais and other victims of the Gaidar-Yeltsin unsuccessful abortion. The abortion failed, and so either half-babies or fursenos were born. Such fursenosochki have hatred for Russians and everything Russian, Russia is their life. The liberals are crap. It’s a pity there is no Stalin!!!
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  94. 0
    24 January 2014 22: 34
    the main problem is that there is no clear concept - RUSSIAN
    There is a citizen of the Russian Federation, Novodvorskaya, who considers herself Russian, and there was a prince Bagration who is considered a Russian general.
    The question arises: which of them is truly Russian?
    But what about my mother, who is half Poles and half Russian, and my father is Cossacks (Khokhlovs) and Russians, but I consider myself Russian
    1. 120352
      +1
      26 January 2014 01: 15
      Novodvorskaya calls herself Russian solely for Russophobic reasons! Whoever sees such a “Russian” will not think anything good about the Russians. And Bagration and Barclay de Tolly are truly Russian military leaders! And not only them.
  95. 0
    24 January 2014 22: 42
    Quote: Canep
    "What did he do to be Russian?"
    Svanidze is by the last name of Georgians and of course he needs to try very hard to become Russian, and to change his name first. Therefore, he may be indignant that someone considers himself Russian, and does not do anything for this, this person simply does not need to do anything, he is simply Russian. A brunette needs to be dyed to become a blonde, and a blonde does not need to do anything to become a blonde, she is already blonde.

    There is an option: pigs.
  96. +1
    25 January 2014 00: 15
    Non-Russians salivate only at the mention of "RUSSIAN"
  97. +5
    25 January 2014 00: 35
    A lot of good things have already been said about “Russianness” and in connection with “Russianness”. As a Russian by blood and spirit, I also want to add a little of myself. “You can see better from afar”... they say. Of course, there are some aspects of this issue that are not entirely visible to people living in Russia. Although there is probably nothing new in this and many people know this. It seems to me that to be Russian you don’t have to be Russian by blood, although this is also important. It is much more important to absorb the very idea of ​​“Russianness” from childhood. Where does it lie? And how does a child who happened to be born in the vastness of my snowy homeland get this idea? And everything is very simple. This idea is in fairy tales, in legends, in epics, in books, history, works of great artists and poets. In Grandmother's tales, grandfather's tarnished orders, in the mushroom forest and at the neighboring lake..... The essence of all this is JUSTICE. Good always conquers evil. Well, Russian people cannot live without “truth”. Wherever he is. His whole soul opposes this. This means that the Russian is the one who is for “THE TRUTH”. Remember the quote from one, in my opinion, worthy film? “You have a lot of money and what will you do? I think that strength is in the TRUTH, those who have the truth are stronger.” S. Bodrov. (Brother 2). “Truth” in the Russian concept is the harmony of life and nature, natural and human laws. I meet young people who, by the will of fate, grew up far from Russia. И что же? Did they suddenly become (Anglo-Saxons, or Germans, or French)? Nothing like this . Most of them are distinguished by the presence of precisely this spark in the heart (an intuitive search for the truth). Although they speak other languages ​​without an accent. And outwardly they differ from others, except in beauty and an article inherited from their great ancestors. A Russian person, once he is like that, never becomes different and never loses his identity. Russian emigration, in Canada, for example (Russian to the core), I would characterize it this way. Grandmothers and grandfathers are about 90 years old or more, so they are just as Russian as any people from Russia. With exactly the same views on life, its essence and meaning. The Russian accent doesn't count at all. I don’t know how this happens, but this is exactly how it is. Of course, there are people who are contemptuous of Russian culture. Such people simply subconsciously understand the inevitable end of their pathetic thinking, ideology, culture, politics and economics. This public is trying in every possible way and by any means to belittle and humiliate the significance of Russian culture and Russianness in history. For example, one “English musical figure” recently offered to introduce the President of Russia to figures of his sexual orientation in Russia, which is unacceptable for Russian culture. So to speak... “enlighten the poor.” In other respects, this is not new at all, and certainly not surprising. However, there are people who are not Slavs at all, not by blood and culture, who respect Russia and Russians. They understand that the struggle of cultures and worldviews is much deeper and more serious than they can even imagine. Many, many people in the world are beginning to understand that behind the Russians and Russia stands the truth and the future concept of human development. Only this can explain the growing popularity of Russian information channels broadcasting to countries with (traditional, not Slavic, but transatlantic or European values). For many years they tried to reform Russia, to make it (pro-Western or pro-American, or any nation....... IT DID NOT WORK.) A completely different trend is now observed. It is impossible to instill demonism, indifference and corruption into the living Russian soul. Be Russian, everyone who cares about truth and the Motherland.
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      25 January 2014 18: 41
      Tracer, amazing hi
  98. Bars90
    +3
    25 January 2014 01: 28
    The lion was labeled as an ass. Likewise, We are RUSSIAN. We don't need shortcuts. We don't need a special dossier... History will speak for us. We are RUSSIAN...and God is with us. So it was and will be. And you should cry less and hide in a corner like a frightened dog! Russian character is what will save us. I am RUSSIAN and no one can take that away from me. Russian, Russian, Russian.... Russian, Russian, Russian... I see! I...I...RUSSIAN!...Russian! And that's great! I am grateful to God that I am RUSSIAN!... Think about it...Russian. How beautiful it sounds... Like a spring murmuring, like a nightingale singing, sounds like the rustling of leaves. Russian. soldier
  99. NURLAT
    -2
    25 January 2014 07: 22
    I am Tatar! And that’s it, if you don’t like it, go to the place where the crayfish spend the winter))
    And so it’s all just made up, everything is fine with us, we live no worse than others, only Putin has stayed too long! Everyone has their own opinion, this is democracy, so don’t make a fuss out of a mountain here!
  100. +3
    25 January 2014 09: 17
    Svanidze is a dirty name.