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Neocolonialism is not Russian. We are not a colonial empire, but a continental

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Neocolonialism is not Russian. We are not a colonial empire, but a continental

The active policy of the Russian Federation in the countries, with the hard hand of Western propagandists called the Third World, is now declared neocolonialism - they say, our country is no worse than the United States of America, and therefore also has the right to rob those who are weaker.


First of all, I would like to note: the term “Third World” itself is part of a conceptual trap, to which we have fallen back in Soviet times. Then our opponents proclaimed: First World - capitalist countries, Second - socialist, Third - those that do not meet the standards of the First and at the same time are not included in the Second. But this division itself is false. In the First and Third Worlds, the same market economy operates. All the numerous differences between them - the organization of power, traditions of doing business, level of education, etc. - do not cancel the main thing: the market operates there, and everything else is subject to its requirements. Moreover, in modern conditions - precisely as a result of colonialism and neo-colonialism - this market is one. India and Haiti are as integral parts of the global market economy as Germany and Luxembourg. The division of the market world into the First and the Third was invented so that we, the Second World, would only compare our standard of living with the best, not paying attention to average indicators. At the same time, the average standard of living in all socialist countries, from the inception of socialism to this day, is above the average for all capitalist countries. This is what we did not notice by faith the stories of the enemy.

But if we have now fallen out of the Second World, should we not rob the Third for the sake of getting into the First, as the other First-Witnesses do?

I have repeatedly said and wrote that empires are of two fundamentally different types: colonial and continental.

The colonial empire is a state where the metropolis is separated from the colony by large distances and where, therefore, even now (not to mention the past centuries), it is impossible to quickly come to the aid of the colonial authorities if they start any disagreement with the locals. Therefore, for the colonial empire, the only way to maintain long-term order is to crush the population of the colony so that people who can seriously think about managing a colony without the help of a metropolis cannot appear there. The simplest method of pressure is to continuously rob a colony, so that even for survival you have to strain all your forces. And, of course, the helplessness of the inhabitants of the colony facilitates their robbery.

The Russian empire is continental. It is formed by peoples, who have lived side by side for centuries. During this time they managed to form the technology of mutually beneficial interaction without any intervention of any single authority. Therefore, all that is required from the central government is not to interfere with this interaction. Of course, it is desirable that the central authorities impose their discipline on these already established methods of interaction in order to guarantee the observance of the procedure previously established by the peoples themselves, so that they can be sure that this interaction will continue, so that, roughly speaking, every person is sure: wherever he comes, he will obey the same uniform rules. But these rules themselves are established by the peoples themselves without the intervention of the central government. Therefore, for the continental empire, the methods of oppressing peoples, the methods of forcibly imposing any laws and rules on them are counterproductive: they lead to a decrease in labor productivity for the empire as a whole.

Accordingly, if we try to pursue a colonial policy in the style in which different countries of Western Europe and North America conducted it at different times, then we will achieve substantially worse results than we achieved by conducting independent policies using the methods we found ourselves. Classical colonial politics is possible only for colonial empires, but not for continental ones.

Moreover, even with countries distant from us, we better conduct a policy in a continental spirit. For the more we contribute to their development, the more they can give us. Of course, one cannot fall into the extreme of the late Soviet times, when we gave all sorts of benefits in exchange for promises to adhere to a socialist orientation, without even trying to check what exactly this orientation would express. But even from general economic considerations it is understandable: one-sided robbery gives even the robber himself ultimately much less than mutually beneficial interaction.

I do not exclude that our liberal younger brothers in mind, sincerely believing that the sun rises in the west, do not understand the difference between interaction and robbery, much less the difference between the two types of empires and therefore prefer to see our classical colonial policies. But we have absolutely no reason to imitate the younger brothers in mind - we will be older.
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 18 January 2014 15: 29
    -27%
    Therefore, for the colonial empire, the only way to maintain order for the long-term is to crush the population of the colony so that people who can seriously think about managing the colony without the help of the metropolis cannot appear there. The simplest way to pressure is to continuously rob a colony so that there, even for survival, you had to strain all your strength. And, of course, the helplessness of the inhabitants of the colony facilitates their robbery.
    Golden words are suitable for our country on all counts. The patient is getting worse every day, and the doctors say, let's get better.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 19 January 2014 07: 45
      +19
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Golden words, suitable for our country on all counts

      user / Ingvar 72 / you are a bummer who has read only half of the article and pulled out of what he read that matches YOUR views! Be patient to read the second half of the article, in it the author’s look:
      Therefore, for the continental empire, methods of oppressing peoples, methods of forcibly imposing any laws and rules on them are counterproductive: they lead to a decrease in labor productivity in the empire as a whole.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 19 January 2014 09: 51
        -4
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Therefore, for the continental empire, methods of oppressing peoples, methods of forcibly imposing any laws and rules on them are counterproductive: they lead to a decrease in labor productivity in the empire as a whole.

        After the British came to India, certain industries also began to develop actively, but in general, the economy degraded, because all proceeds were exported to England. Isn’t it with us? Is government money and resources not withdrawn abroad?
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 19 January 2014 12: 30
          +11
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Is government money and resources not withdrawn abroad?

          Then declare on this resource something like "the raw materials and financial resources of ErEfii are accumulated in the metropolis - in the banks of the USA, small Britain, etc. both directly, under the guise of paying off" loans ", and through offshore companies." And it will be more honest than licking the hand of foreign like-minded people, kicking on the brains of compatriots.
          1. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 12: 52
            +9
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Isn’t it with us? Is government money and resources not withdrawn abroad?


            I wonder how did you find this? Well, in specific numbers, how much is leaving, but how much is left ?? It is clear that part is leaving, it is clear that part of the money was stolen in Sochi, it is clear that Yakunin is not crystal clear, that's just the question of specific figures / proofs.

            In the 1999 year, with 100 barrels, 10 barrels went to the budget, now more than 60 barrels. These are specific figures of the fact that in 99 resources and money were withdrawn abroad in droves, and now the situation has changed radically. And you have empty phrases.

            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 19 January 2014 21: 52
              +7
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              I wonder how did you find this? Well, in specific numbers, how much is leaving, but how much is left ??

              Honestly, I don’t know where to get TRUE figures, what is leaving and what remains, but in Thailand (where there is no oil and gas) gasoline costs the same as in Russia, and gas is cheaper. This is despite the fact that now, in winter they have +20 +25 degrees Celsius, and in summer +40.
              So you can put the charts to hell. But realists need to figure out how much cheaper production is in Thailand than in Russia, where you need to heat housing and industrial premises, and the borders are open to foreign products, I mean market competition, if not clear.
        2. Neophyte
          Neophyte 19 January 2014 13: 52
          +4
          Ingvar 72. The English in India chopped off the fingers of weavers to protect the interests of English weavers.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 19 January 2014 21: 40
            +1
            Quote: Neophyte
            Ingvar 72. The English in India chopped off the fingers of weavers to protect the interests of English weavers.
            That's it, otherwise Onotole is too abstract, incomprehensible for many fans of talking about "Russian colonies":
            to crush the population of the colony so that people who could seriously think about managing the colony without the help of the metropolis could not appear there
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        4. Setrac
          Setrac 19 January 2014 14: 18
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          because all proceeds were exported to England. Isn’t it with us? Is government money and resources not withdrawn abroad?

          The reasons are different. Now the reverse process is underway, capital is moving from Europe to China, India, ASEAN. From Russia, the export of capital does not stop naturally.
        5. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 08: 08
          0
          You mixed everything up. Only raw materials and environmentally harmful industries developed in the colonies. There is industry in our country. There are factories and factories. There is a defense industry. There is still science and technology. Of course a lot of raw materials. And what do we do with an excess of gas, oil, coal, wood, and other minerals? Of course to sell. And the fact that money is exported abroad is so as not to pay taxes. These offshore zones are specially created to weaken our state. And the greedy people peck at it.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 09: 35
            0
            Quote: Алексей_К
            Only raw materials and environmentally harmful industries developed in the colonies

            And isn’t it so?
            Quote: Алексей_К
            There is a defense industry. There is still science and technology.

            The defense is just the muscles to protect the colonial achievements. And we do not have science, look at what they are doing with the RAS. RosNano is not a science.
            Quote: Алексей_К
            And the fact that money is exported abroad is so as not to pay taxes.

            I talked about the gold and foreign exchange reserve, it works for the economies of other countries, potential opponents. Veiled withdrawal of resources in the metropolis. hi
      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 19 January 2014 11: 57
        +5
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        user / Ingvar 72 / you are a bummer,
        He is not a lazy dog ​​- you are mistaken hi He does this intentionally, pulling out phrases from the context, this is our fifth column, in all its glory. yes
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 19 January 2014 18: 23
          +6
          Quote: bomg.77
          this is our fifth column, in all its glory

          Labels, Alex, the easiest way to hang. If we constantly divide our government into the king and the boyars, then we will discuss for a long time not joining in the actions of our government. But if you imagine that they are on the same team and play the game of a bad and good cop? And their goal, as I described above? You will see much more logic in their actions. The largest enterprises are closed or sold to foreigners, and they invest their money in cheaper US debt securities. One mine is opened, and about dozens of closed ones are silent. Once again, I do not call for the overthrow of GDP, there is no decent alternative, but I will not keep silent about the problems. Rulers are judged by deeds, not by beautiful words. And it was only in foreign policy, and even that, Syria and Ukraine seemed to be recaptured, and Moldova and Georgia went into association with the EU. Sincerely.hi
          P.S. The minus is not mine.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 19 January 2014 21: 55
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            But if you imagine that they are on the same team and play the game of a bad and good cop?
            You will forgive me, but looking at the logic of your statements, it is much easier to imagine you as a fifth column, although this may be a misconception as well as your fantasies about the police.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 09: 42
              0
              Quote: Stanislav
              it’s much easier to introduce you to the fifth column

              You have the wrong logical chain. I do not call for the overthrow of GDP, this time. And secondly, for me in modern history there are two ideals of rulers - Stalin and Lukashenko. hi
          2. bomg.77
            bomg.77 20 January 2014 01: 05
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Labels, Alex, the easiest way to hang.
            I agree recently Iverov reproached for this, I repent winkedas my excuse, I will say, I watched your transformation, so to speak online, from comment to comment, on the basis of this I put a "label"
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            . If we constantly divide our government into the king and the boyars, then we will discuss for a long time not joining in the actions of our government.

            Nobody removes Putin’s responsibility, but it’s not worth distorting.
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            . Once again, I do not call for the overthrow of GDP
            You are engaged in undermining and slandering not only the current government, but also Russia as such, as your comment above indicates.
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            . Rulers are judged by deeds, not by beautiful words
            So judge by deeds, and do not stick out flaws, for the sake of ill-wishers! (Constructive, sometimes it helps)
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And it was only in foreign policy, and even that, Syria and Ukraine seemed to be recaptured, and Moldova and Georgia went into association with the EU.
            They didn’t fight back, but pulled out what they got at the current stage of history, it turns out to be expensive and difficult for us and the fact that we defended them says a lot! Georgia will not go anywhere and will be with us! Political views can be changed , geography never !!!! Ingvar I didn’t try to insult you or somehow offend you; I just stated for myself who you are, and who agreed with me thinks the same way I do.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 09: 50
              0
              Quote: bomg.77
              Your transformation, so to speak online, from comment to comment, on the basis of this, was "labeled"

              I understand that you are trying to say that I kind of repainted? He did not seem to be confused in the testimonies, and did not change his convictions. Please explain your words.
              Quote: bomg.77
              You are engaged in undermining and slandering not only the current government, but also Russia as such, as your comment above indicates.

              What exactly is slander? I did not understand about the bombing. request
          3. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 08: 25
            +1
            ... I do not call for the overthrow of GDP, there is no decent alternative ...

            There is an alternative, and this is the only force capable of organizing all the peoples of the country to achieve a specific goal - this is the Communist Party. It was the Communists who prevented the White Guard riots, American and English intervention. They united nations with a single idea. They restored the industry and no matter how much others were angry about agriculture - people had breakfast, lunch and dinner. Yes, they identified all the liberal trash in the Gulag and did it right, because otherwise there would have been confusion, as it is now. The fact that the Communists created such an army, despite the collapse of the country and the army itself, that the Americans are still afraid to fight with us, is now saving us from colonization. They even pissed us off Syria. We are so strong, even in a weakened state.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 19 January 2014 08: 10
      +6
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Golden words, suitable for our country on all counts

      Having pulled out a quote from the first half of the article, for some reason you did not pay attention to the counterthesis in the second half of the article:
      Therefore, for the continental empire, methods of oppressing peoples, methods of forcibly imposing any laws and rules on them are counterproductive:

      Conclusion: you need to read the article to the end and only AFTER throwing a comment. Be honest!
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 08: 25
        +10
        The patient is getting worse every day, and the doctors say, let's get better.





        As you can see from the indicators above, the word "wither" is absolutely not suitable for the Russian Federation.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 19 January 2014 10: 30
          +2
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          As you can see from the indicators above, the word "wither" is absolutely not suitable for the Russian Federation.

          I'm tired of explaining to you already. Look around. I have repeatedly said about the situation at AvtoVAZ, I won’t repeat it. Togliatti used to be one of the largest centers in the chemical industry. Now it is in ruins. TOAZ is still alive, but it’s breathing. Kuibyshev-Phosphorus is already a corpse. The largest chemical complex practically does not work, the buildings are falling apart. The remnants poison the city so that mom does not cry. hi
          1. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 11: 32
            +9
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            I'm tired of explaining to you already. Look around.


            Looked around and what? All sectors of the industry, including the chemical one, are experiencing growth, somewhere more, somewhere less. As for your AvtoVAZ, you do not have insider information, but speak on behalf of your "discontent", and while the dog is barking, the caravan is moving on.

            In order not to be unfounded, there is a graph that clearly shows that in the 2012 year we reached the level of the 1991 year (USSR)


            And why in all the charts stable growth starts from 1999 of the year ??
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 19 January 2014 17: 54
              +3
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              including chemical, there is growth, somewhere more, somewhere less

              Trofim has a good song - There, there, there. Listen. We are always reassured by fairy tales that the climb is on, but so far in other places. But nothing, be patient, and it will reach you. Well, where we do not. But I'm used to believing more in my eyes, not in the graphics, sorry.
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              As for your AvtoVAZ, you do not have insider information

              I live in the Avtozavodsky district, half of VAZ employees, I communicate with people. And with simple hard workers, and who sits in a candle. hi
            2. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 19 January 2014 19: 50
              +1
              And now there will be a HUGE supply of polyethylene to China
          2. Russ69
            Russ69 19 January 2014 15: 11
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            . The largest chemical complex practically does not work, the buildings are falling apart. The remnants poison the city so that mom does not cry.

            The chemical industry in Russia grew over 13 years, sort of by 4,8%.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 19 January 2014 17: 29
              +1
              Quote: Russ69
              The chemical industry in Russia grew over 13 years, sort of by 4,8%.

              The workers of Togliatti-Nitrogen and Kuibyshev-Phosphorus will not agree with you. hi
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 18: 48
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                The workers of Togliatti-Nitrogen and Kuibyshev-Phosphorus will not agree with you.


                Is it a state-owned enterprise?
                Were they profitable?
                Was their product competitive?

                If there are NO answers to these three questions, then it is not surprising that they went broke. And the growth of chemical production suggests that instead of unprofitable enterprises, new, modern, competitive ones have opened. TRENDS are more important than FACTS, and even more important than what you see with your own eyes, since you cannot cover the scale of the country
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 20 January 2014 09: 59
                  0
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  TRENDS are more important than FACTS,

                  On the exchange, yes, but not in life. For me, a piece of bread on my table is more important than caviar on a poster. hi
          3. Evgenij.
            Evgenij. 19 January 2014 19: 47
            +2
            For this, in Kazan and Salavat they can’t cope with the loads.
      2. Timeout
        Timeout 19 January 2014 08: 27
        +7
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        I do not exclude that our liberal younger brothers in mind, sincerely believing that the sun rises in the west, do not understand the difference between interaction and robbery, much less the difference between the two types of empires and therefore prefer to see our classical colonial policies. But we have absolutely no reason to imitate the younger brothers in mind - we will be older.

        Gold words! Just why our rulers do not want to understand this? Wasserman is probably the most adequate Jew from the public in the post-Soviet space.
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 19 January 2014 12: 39
          +6
          He is Russian!
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 19 January 2014 15: 31
            +14
            Quote: Basarev
            He is Russian!



            In our country house, a 90-year-old grandfather lives lonely. Samuil Yakovlevich (his grandfather Marshak's name is behind the eyes) ... a war veteran, so when his many relatives gathered for their historic homeland, he refused at the time, saying you all went ... I'm Russian. I’m born here and die here The homeland, the smartest man, that he is Wasserman, all his neighbors help him ... a block and not a man. One must write about such books ... One son is only a doctor, he has been living in Israel for a long time, he comes sometimes. But nobody needs it anymore. Our doctors found he suspected cancer in the analyzes, and then repeated tests gave a negative result. So when he found out about this, he said I won the Germans. Then the Japanese and the Americans (in Korea) now also won the cancer ... That's such a grandfather.
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 08: 37
            0
            Anatoly Wasserman, as he defines himself, is a "Russian Jew", a Ukrainian citizen. As they write in the Ukrainian media about him: "Undoubtedly, this is a man of remarkable mind and great erudition. As far as we know, he is an atheist. In general, people who do not betray their principles and do not try to hide their origin under adverse circumstances command respect."
    3. PPL
      PPL 19 January 2014 08: 36
      +1
      Ingvar 72
      The patient is getting worse every day, and the doctors say, let's get better.

      I wonder what kind of "colony" in your opinion strains all forces for survival and suffers the most from the Russian Empire? What is the name of this "aging patient"?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 19 January 2014 09: 52
        -4
        Quote: PPZ
        What is the name of this "weakening patient"

        Russia. hi
        1. PPL
          PPL 19 January 2014 11: 24
          +1
          If I understand you correctly, is the "weakening patient" Russia, which colonized itself? Cool... lol hi
        2. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 11: 35
          +3
          Russia.

          Judging by the space launches, a completely different patient is getting worse.
          1. alone
            alone 19 January 2014 11: 58
            -1
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Judging by the space launches, a completely different patient is getting worse.


            What is it getting worse for? Half of the Russian launches are the launch of foreign satellites into orbit. And theirs are falling with Protons. Who is getting worse?
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 12: 02
              +7
              Quote: lonely
              What is it getting worse for? Half of the Russian launches are the launch of foreign satellites into orbit. And theirs are falling with Protons. Who is getting worse?


              The table shows statistics on unsuccessful launches .... Can you tell me the exact number of foreign (required by country) and domestic satellites put into orbit this year? It's just that you speak with such confidence about half of the foreign and second half of the fallen domestic ....

              And yes, the money doesn’t smell, so you can launch anyone’s satellites and anyone’s astronauts and get good profits for it, while building cosmodromes and new types of launch vehicles, such as the new Union and the Angara line
              1. alone
                alone 19 January 2014 12: 35
                +4
                Pavel, just the same carriers with Russian satellites most often fall. Maybe you can cite the fact of the fall of the proton M with foreign satellites? I don’t remember something like that. But the whole country and not only the country saw online
                the fall of the proton with the three satellites of the Glonass system. This can only be explained
                the fact that you have to pay for ditched foreign satellites because of insurance, but for domestic ones except by dismissal from your post.

                P.S. Of course, it’s easiest to set cons. I have minuses on the drum. And recently, when there was an article, they all tore up and threw about why carriers with domestic satellites are falling and breaking. hi
                1. sledgehammer102
                  sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 13: 10
                  +3
                  Quote: lonely
                  Pavel, just the same carriers with Russian satellites most often fall. Maybe you can cite the fact of the fall of the proton M with foreign satellites? I don’t remember something like that. But the whole country and not only the country saw online


                  Give specific numbers, I specifically asked you. Yes, there was one unsuccessful launch in 2013, but what about the others? There were no Russian satellites? Which countries' satellites (in specific numbers) were put into orbit?

                  I have such data for October 2013go.
                  Of all the 7 accidents of Proton-M with the fall of satellites, in 4-x cases Proton deduced foreign satellites. In total, Proton-M has launched 2001 times since 76, and 69 launches have been successful. During this time, he launched into a given orbit 34 Russian satellites.

                  With 2000, Russia completed (with all types of launch vehicles) 384 space launches (much more than anyone in the world). Of these, 19 were unsuccessful, 13 of foreign satellites were lost.

                  Of all the 20 launches with GLONASS satellites from 2000, only 2 were unsuccessful. During this time, 48 GLONASS satellites were successfully launched into orbit.
                  1. alone
                    alone 19 January 2014 14: 36
                    +3
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    69 launches were successful. During this time, he launched 34 Russian satellites into a given orbit.


                    so you yourself have confirmed that 50% of the launches are carried out in order to put their own satellites into orbit, the rest are for foreigners)) 50% of the work is carried out for foreigners is a fact that you yourself have confirmed. so it’s not too dumb for them, as you are here try to explain everything.
                    1. Russ69
                      Russ69 19 January 2014 15: 17
                      +4
                      Quote: lonely
                      50% of the work is done for foreigners - this is a fact

                      And what’s bad? It's a good income, long-term orders. We sell only oil, bad. We launch satellites (this is high technology), again it’s bad ... request
                      1. alone
                        alone 20 January 2014 00: 19
                        0
                        Quote: Russ69
                        And what’s bad? It's a good income, long-term orders. We sell only oil, bad. We launch satellites (this is high technology), again it’s bad ...


                        and no one says that it’s bad. but this is not a sign that, from these launches, Europe is getting worse what
                      2. Aleksey_K
                        Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 09: 14
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                        This says only one thing. In space technology, Europe is dependent on Russia. In the event of a conflict, when the warring countries will destroy the enemy’s satellites, Russia will be the first to restore its space force and command troops. But the Europeans will not be able to recover. their industry is not capable of making so many booster rockets.
                  2. sledgehammer102
                    sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 18: 50
                    0
                    Quote: lonely
                    here you yourself have confirmed that 50% of launches are carried out in order to put their own satellites into orbit, the rest for foreigners))


                    We have only one launch vehicle? And again, are we taking these satellites for free into orbit, or are we still getting rather big money? We won’t start, others will start and you will be the first to howl that we are losing competition to other countries in the struggle for the consumer of such rare and very profitable services
              2. Setrac
                Setrac 19 January 2014 14: 27
                +2
                Quote: lonely
                the fall of the proton with the three satellites of the Glonass system. This can be explained

                This can be explained by the activities of foreign intelligence services.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 19 January 2014 14: 26
            +4
            Quote: lonely
            What is it getting worse for? Half of the Russian launches are the launch of foreign satellites into orbit. And theirs are falling with Protons. Who is getting worse?

            I’ll draw your attention to the fact that it is the launch vehicles with GLONAS satellites that are falling. Someone really does not want Russia to deploy its global positioning system.
            work is endless for the "competent authorities".
            1. alone
              alone 19 January 2014 14: 30
              +2
              Quote: Setrac
              I’ll draw your attention to the fact that it is the launch vehicles with GLONAS satellites that are falling. Someone really does not want Russia to deploy its global positioning system.


              That's it. That's where you have to start. You need to find out what and why it is all done. Rejoice stupidly because not only we fall, doesn’t really solve anything. And putting on the comments the numbers of falls from others also really doesn’t solve anything. I already 40-odd, all my life that I only remember hearing about the rotten Western and American systems and the fact that every single year they open their hooves. Apparently my life is not enough to wait for this day.
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 19 January 2014 14: 34
                +2
                Quote: Setrac
                I’ll draw your attention to the fact that it is the launch vehicles with GLONAS satellites that are falling.


                Quote: lonely
                Here's where to start. You need to find out what and why it is all done. Rejoice stupidly at the fact that not only we fall, doesn’t really solve anything. And to put down the numbers of falls on others also really doesn’t solve anything


                You at least read the thread first.

                Of the 7 failed Proton launches on 4x, there were foreign satellites.
                Of all the 20 launches with GLONASS satellites from 2000, only 2 were unsuccessful. During this time, 48 GLONASS satellites were successfully launched into orbit.
          3. Russ69
            Russ69 19 January 2014 15: 13
            +3
            Quote: lonely
            half of the Russian launches is the launch of foreign satellites into orbit. and theirs are falling with Protons. who is getting worse?

            They come and go, only the number of orders to launch satellites increases ...
            And do not fall, the one who does not start at all ... smile
          4. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 09: 08
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            The Proton booster is much more effective than others. So far, only Proton-M is the most powerful carrier in Russia. Only he is able to put into orbit the heavy modules of space stations and satellites in remote stationary orbits. As for the falls - no one is safe from wrecking. Example! The United States recently launched two ballistic missiles on Syria. Russia just hit one of them. The second - changed the flight path. And this showed that American nuclear missiles could return back to the United States. Here is the fact of wrecking on the part of Russia in the construction of American nuclear carriers. Obama was shocked, persuaded Israel to take over these launches and canceled the invasion of Syria.
        3. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 19 January 2014 18: 55
          0
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          Judging by the space launches, a completely different patient is getting worse.
      2. Bars90
        Bars90 20 January 2014 01: 46
        0
        Sir, you do not need to switch to a person. So that Russia does not cherish, it is necessary to work, work and work. Or as my grandfather says, bull. Here, and not wrap snot on a fist.
  2. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 19 January 2014 12: 07
    +2
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Therefore, for the colonial empire, the only way to maintain order for the long-term is to crush the population of the colony so that people who can seriously think about managing the colony without the help of the metropolis cannot appear there. The simplest way to pressure is to continuously rob a colony so that there, even for survival, you had to strain all your strength. And, of course, the helplessness of the inhabitants of the colony facilitates their robbery.
    Golden words are suitable for our country on all counts. The patient is getting worse every day, and the doctors say, let's get better.


    Ingvar You probably also these: "I do not exclude that our liberal younger brothers in reason, sincere believers that the sun rises in the west, do not understand the difference between interaction and robbery."
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  4. Dilshat
    Dilshat 19 January 2014 19: 08
    0
    The professor, as always, burns! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! Urgently in the strip of central newspapers! The oligarchs will also not be out of place to read.
  • 2014Bog2014
    2014Bog2014 19 January 2014 06: 43
    +2
    Russians for Russians !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 19 January 2014 08: 12
      +4
      Quote: 2014Bog2014
      Russians for Russians

      We are Russians and God is with us, if God is with us, then who is against us.
      1. Kurbashioglu
        Kurbashioglu 19 January 2014 11: 47
        +6
        Quote: ele1285
        if God is with us, then who is against us.

        largely against themselves .....
        1. shuhartred
          shuhartred 19 January 2014 12: 34
          +2
          Quote: Kurbashioglu
          Quote: ele1285
          if God is with us, then who is against us.

          largely against themselves .....

          In many ways, what is this? What are you against yourself? Zadolbali already throwing general phrases, acquiring the status of immutable truths.
          1. Kurbashioglu
            Kurbashioglu 19 January 2014 13: 23
            +1
            Quote: shuhartred
            In many ways, what is this? What are you against yourself? Zadolbali already throwing general phrases, acquiring the status of immutable truths.

            How to explain so as not to offend? Who in the city halls, militia, prosecutor’s courts, etc., for the grandmother decides Caucasians? Or maybe migrants? Who??? You can continue for a long time. The truths are very simple. request
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 19 January 2014 17: 28
              +1
              Quote: Kurbashioglu
              Who in the city halls, militia, prosecutor’s courts, etc., for the grandmother decides Caucasians? Or maybe migrants? Who???

              You ask who? I haven’t seen migrants. And there are a lot of Caucasians in the police, at least in Moscow. For example, Biryulevo was the head of the Department of Internal Affairs. The prosecutor’s office also doesn’t include your fellow countrymen, but those with whom you fought for Karabakh. we have unmeasured.
              1. Kurbashioglu
                Kurbashioglu 19 January 2014 21: 53
                -1
                Quote: ele1285
                You ask who? I haven’t seen migrants. And there are a lot of Caucasians in the police, at least in Moscow. For example, Biryulevo was the head of the Department of Internal Affairs. The prosecutor’s office also doesn’t include your fellow countrymen, but those with whom you fought for Karabakh. we have unmeasured.

                You are a nationalist, judging by the profile picture and thoughts stated, it was once your compatriots, but in general it’s funny how in Kazakhstan, as Kazakh people work in militia lol
                You yourself haven’t spoiled your past for 20 years? Every year in a traffic accident in a large village doesn’t die? Are the Caucasians to blame too? what
                1. shuhartred
                  shuhartred 19 January 2014 23: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Kurbashioglu
                  You yourself have not spoiled your past for 20 years

                  I have not crap. Infa different spinning yes. But like that, consciously, for myself to accept that our past is entirely dung, sorry for this no way. Again, people who have nothing to do with Russia and Russians may think so.
                  Quote: Kurbashioglu
                  Every year in a traffic accident in a large village doesn’t die? Are the Caucasians also to blame?

                  And the Caucasians, too, or are they not living in Russia? Not only do we die, all over the world. Inevitable payment for technological progress. They just have less, for various reasons.
            2. shuhartred
              shuhartred 19 January 2014 23: 15
              +1
              Quote: Kurbashioglu
              How to explain so as not to offend? Who in the city halls, militia, prosecutor’s courts, etc., for the grandmother decides Caucasians? Or maybe migrants? Who??? You can continue for a long time. The truths are very simple.

              I am not touchy, but I understood your idea. It is difficult to object, and probably impossible. But I'm talking about something else. I can’t be against myself if some people decide things for money, to the detriment of their national interests, that means they do not belong to this nation, do not relate themselves to it. DPS nickname who missed a suspicious truck from the Caucasus for grandmothers, anyone but Russian, not a patriot, and it’s not about nationality at all, namely patriotism, as if they had not been pouring mud on this word lately. I do not give or receive bribes. What am I an enemy of myself and my people?
        2. shuhartred
          shuhartred 19 January 2014 23: 27
          +1
          Quote: Kurbashioglu
          Quote: ele1285
          if God is with us, then who is against us.

          largely against themselves .....

          I’ll supplement my thought. I’m just fed up with people who claim that Russia has no enemies and that we ourselves are enemies. This is hell to you, Comrade Lieutenant General. I have not heard more delirium.
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 20 January 2014 08: 39
            0
            Quote: shuhartred
            This is hell to you, Comrade Lieutenant General. I have not heard more delirium.

            I understand that your message is addressed to me, judging by the rank on the site. The truth NEVER claimed that Russia had no enemies. And NEVER thought that we were fighting against ourselves. You probably didn’t quite understand my point.
            1. shuhartred
              shuhartred 20 January 2014 11: 02
              0
              Quote: ele1285
              Quote: shuhartred
              This is hell to you, Comrade Lieutenant General. I have not heard more delirium.

              I understand that your message is addressed to me, judging by the rank on the site. The truth NEVER claimed that Russia had no enemies. And NEVER thought that we were fighting against ourselves. You probably didn’t quite understand my point.

              No, not for you. It’s just a saying from my favorite book, but it coincided. And I turned to Kurbashioglu.
              1. Kurbashioglu
                Kurbashioglu 23 January 2014 21: 53
                0
                Respect! it is hoped that you are not a network hamster patriot hi
      2. Cherdak
        Cherdak 19 January 2014 14: 16
        +4
        Quote: ele1285
        We are Russians and God is with us


        it remains only to see what fragments of the past are needed to build a self-sufficient and successful Russian community
      3. Clegg
        Clegg 19 January 2014 14: 43
        -3
        ele1285
        Why are Russians identified with the black and yellow banner of the German dynasty?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 19 January 2014 15: 07
          +6
          [quote = Clegg] ele1285
          Why are Russians identified with the black and yellow banner of the German dynasty?

          Interpretation of flowers in terms of the coat of arms of Russia
          Later, under Alexander II, the most famous interpretation became a bit different.
          The black color was taken from the coat of arms of Russia, which depicted a black two-headed eagle. The black color symbolized the greatness of Russia (especially in the East), sovereignty, state stability, the inviolability of historical borders and invincibility - in other words, the basis that determined the meaning of the existence of the Russian state.
          According to one version, the yellow (or gold) color was also taken from the coat of arms of Russia (such was the field in which the two-headed eagle was depicted), according to another version, the two-headed eagle on the Byzantine standard was golden. One way or another, but the golden color and the double-headed eagle was depicted on the banners even under Prince Ivan III Vasilievich. The yellow color symbolized spirituality, the striving for moral perfection and firmness of spirit, as well as the continuity and preservation of the Orthodox faith.
          The white (or silver) color was known as the color of George the Victorious, striking the dragon with a spear. White color symbolized eternity and purity among all peoples of the world on all flags. On this flag, he symbolized the readiness of the Russians to fight for their Fatherland, their family and their faith, and, on occasion, to give their lives in the name of Russia.
          1. Clegg
            Clegg 19 January 2014 18: 35
            +5
            RUSS

            thanks for the answer, did not understand your compatriots, they can’t even ask a question? immediately began to minus)))))))

            Sometimes this one is called the imperial flag, it seemed to me that all these anti-immigration rallies and "enough to feed the Caucasus", etc., is like a hint of abandoning the imperial project. But nationalists hold this flag in their hands, I don't understand something?
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 19 January 2014 21: 02
              +3
              Quote: Clegg

              immediately began to minus)))))))

              Sometimes this one is called the imperial flag, it seemed to me that all these anti-immigration rallies and "enough to feed the Caucasus", etc., is like a hint of abandoning the imperial project.

              I don’t understand who minus you and also think that it’s in vain. Yes, this is the Imperial flag, and there are no hints of abandoning the Empire. Only the Empire is under the slogans of Alexander III and A.V. Suvorov.


              did not understand your compatriots


              And 23 years ago, we were all compatriots. It's bitter and insulting.
            2. Stanislas
              Stanislas 19 January 2014 22: 15
              +3
              Quote: Clegg
              "enough to feed the Caucasus", etc., it is like a hint of abandoning the imperial project. But nationalists hold this flag in their hands, I don't understand something?
              Very subtle remark. Such a screamer is much more of a state standard for a merchant - a white-blue-red flag. Painfully prudent, fed straight ...
            3. habalog
              habalog 20 January 2014 10: 41
              0
              Discredit the Banner.
              Solstice symbols are prohibited, due to the well-known swastika. For centuries, the Slavs used them;
              Alternatively oriented use the rainbow as their symbol. Now a child drawing a rainbow can be ridiculed by his peers.

              If the white color is removed from the flag of the Russian Empire, there will be a St. George Ribbon. With the motto "Nothing is forgotten. Nobody is forgotten."
              And if you add white to the St. George Ribbon, there will be a banner of the Russian Empire. With the motto "God is with us".
              Why am I doing this? To the fact that many, from the sacred and holy beginnings, have been torn out of us. But! When acquiring them - "comrades scattered" (c) Borka turn into the Russian people. I add that I think the name of our genus has long outgrown the boundaries of nationality. Do you love Russia, serve it? - you are Russian. From and u smile
  • makarov
    makarov 19 January 2014 07: 21
    +4
    "Then our opponents proclaimed: the First World - capitalist countries, the Second - socialist, the Third - those that do not meet the standards of the First and at the same time are not included in the Second. But this division itself is false."

    But if you apply a dictionary of reverse words, then the word "peace" will sound like "Rome". I think readers know what 1 Rome, 2 Rome, and 3 Rome (RUSSIA) mean, which has shouldered the responsibilities of 1 and 2 Rome in the history of mankind to preserve spiritual values.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 19 January 2014 08: 00
      +6
      Quote: makarov
      But if you use a dictionary of reverse words,

      user / makarov / pampering with reverse words leads to the appearance of reverse thoughts.
      There is a truth in which the meaning does not change in the reverse order of reading, for example "ABRACADABRA". Try to explain its meaning to the child right away. Therefore, in the Gospel of Matthew (ch. 5, v. 37), Jesus says to his listeners, “But let your word be:“ yes, yes, ”“ no, no ”; and what is beyond this is from the evil one. "
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 09: 37
      0
      The first world - NATO member countries, the second world - the Warsaw Pact countries, the third world - non-aligned with these blocs. And do not misinterpret the capitalist or socialist. Almost the entire capitalist world was not in NATO - these are third world countries. The second world - Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary, East Germany, Poland, Romania, the USSR and Czechoslovakia. But China, Vietnam, Korea and Yugoslavia, although socialist, belonged to the third world.
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 19 January 2014 07: 33
    +5
    Wasserman wonder what kind of political views?
    1. major071
      major071 19 January 2014 08: 20
      +12
       vladsolo56
      Wasserman wonder what kind of political views?

      It is impossible to say for sure, but clearly anti-Western and anti-lebral. Wasserman is Jewish by birth, and by state of mind and views - Russian. hi
      1. German
        German 19 January 2014 08: 29
        +9
        Wasserman-Odessa! This is not nationality, this is a state of mind! In Odessa, people have never been divided by nationality ... Either you are ours, or ... not ours! smile But in general I agree with you!
      2. Timeout
        Timeout 19 January 2014 08: 35
        +12
        Quote: major071
        Wasserman Jewish by birth

        He is also a Ukrainian Jew! A wild mixture, moreover, still considers himself a Stalinist and Marxist. An integral man, at least I have not seen him change his mind about some kind of problem.
        1. Kurbashioglu
          Kurbashioglu 19 January 2014 11: 50
          0
          and Wasserman a major expert on twin towers winked
        2. Evgenij.
          Evgenij. 19 January 2014 20: 04
          +1
          They say a Jew hanged himself when born wink
      3. Cherdak
        Cherdak 19 January 2014 14: 25
        +6
        Quote: major071
        Wasserman-Odessa! This is not a nationality, it is a state of mind!


        And if you recall the coat of arms of Odessa, then a lot becomes clearer
    2. AVV
      AVV 19 January 2014 12: 05
      +3
      Wasserman gutar all right !!!
    3. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 19 January 2014 18: 59
      -1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Wasserman wonder what kind of political views?

      Pro-government loyalist.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 20 January 2014 10: 37
        0
        Quote: Yarosvet
        Pro-government loyalist.
        Can you cite at least one "pro-government-loyalist" statement made by Wasserman during the rule of, say, Gorbachev or Yeltsin & Co? If not, why tryndet?
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 20 January 2014 13: 15
          0
          Quote: Stanislav
          You can lead

          Do you have a short memory?

          From 01:18 to 03:20

          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 20 January 2014 21: 52
            0
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Is the memory short?

            Rather, the imagination is not enough, because I listened and watched from 01:18 to 03:20, but I counted exactly no "pro-government-loyalist" statements.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 20 January 2014 23: 58
              0
              Quote: Stanislav

              And didn’t you hear that his article positively influenced the election of EBN? Wow... laughing

              But this "socialist-Stalinist" tried to tell someone that he helped Bora (why did the "socialist-Stalinist" help EBN to be elected for the second term, don't even try to understand, otherwise cognitive dissonance will happen as a result of which anxiety will increase)
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 21 January 2014 13: 45
                0
                Quote: Yarosvet
                claims that his article had a positive effect on the election of EBN
                He spoke one EBN - another, and the media - the intermediary - helped Yeltsin. He is not proud of it, but rather presents it as an incident and translates arrows on the media. I, too, for a mixed, and not for a centrally-socialist economy, however, I began to adhere to pro-loyalist (according to your classification) beliefs as soon as I saw that for the first time, not in everything, but at least in some way, it acts as I would like.
    4. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 09: 43
      0
      He considers himself a Stalinist and a convinced Marxist in the interpretation of the Socrates Platonov analytical group.

      Relation to religion formulated by Wasserman: "I am an atheist, and atheist is not out of habit, but out of conviction." Wasserman argues that the non-existence of God is strictly and unambiguously inferred as a consequence of Gödel’s incompleteness theorem. However, Wasserman emphasizes that the Orthodox Church in Russia plays a positive social role.

      He considers himself not a Jew, but a Russian of Jewish origin. Wasserman argues that a person’s nationality is a collection of acquired habits. He is convinced that nationalism is a contagious mental illness. Calls himself a staunch opponent of the nation state.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 20 January 2014 10: 49
        0
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Wasserman argues that the non-existence of God is strictly and unambiguously inferred as a consequence of Gödel’s incompleteness theorem.
        1st or 2nd theorem? The question of the existence of God is unprovable, i.e., according to Gödel’s 2nd theorem, does not belong to the class of formally recursively enumerated theories. In other words, to conclusively deduce the non-existence of God (as, incidentally, His existence) is beyond the power of anyone, not even Onotol, which, in fact, is deduced using Gödel's theorems.
  • Echo
    Echo 19 January 2014 07: 34
    +12
    We are not an empire at all. Russia is an anti-empire. Russia is an interethnic state created by the Russians, a special society and, most importantly, Russia is a way of thinking that is aimed at the physical and spiritual liberation of all the people of the earth ... just from the Empires.

    Yes, in the history of Russia there was a period when Russia was an empire by name, but we were never an empire in fact. And we won’t. We are above this shit. It doesn’t stick to us.
  • Rash
    Rash 19 January 2014 07: 51
    -5
    Quote: Echo
    We are not an empire at all. Russia is an anti-empire

    Anti-empire is how? Type of voluntary-forced accession of small nations to the Russian Empire?
    1. Bars90
      Bars90 20 January 2014 01: 53
      0
      They forced someone, and it happened that they voluntarily entered ... this is not the point, you know. Each country has its own history. And to get into Russian history, excuse me, with a "dirty" mind and thoughts, is a thankless task. And there is no need to point a finger hysterically ... Have an upbringing.
  • Rash
    Rash 19 January 2014 07: 53
    +1
    Quote: Echo
    Yes, in the history of Russia there was a period when Russia was an empire by name, but we were never an empire in fact

    It was an empire both in essence and in meaning.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 19 January 2014 12: 18
      +2
      Quote: Rash
      Was an empire both in essence and in meaning

      Dear, did you understand the article? The author has two types of empires under consideration and he proves to people like you that the Russian Empire WAS CONTINENTAL (not colonial)!
      Quote: Wasserman
      Classical colonial politics is possible only for colonial empires, but not for continental ones.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 19 January 2014 08: 05
    +1
    where are the "results" ?! I can't start the day angry
    1. major071
      major071 19 January 2014 08: 16
      +5
      hi Andrew! Che, also in the "rack" waiting for the mosaic? laughing I came to work, right here, I’m also waiting. lol
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 19 January 2014 08: 26
        +1
        Quote: major071
        I came to work, right here, I’m also waiting.

        go read, "results" appeared tongue
      2. shuhartred
        shuhartred 19 January 2014 12: 39
        +1
        Quote: major071
        I came to work, right here, I’m also waiting.

        Or maybe it’s better to work, huh? At home, read the results.
        1. major071
          major071 19 January 2014 13: 07
          +4
          The work cannot interfere with being on the "VO" resource. Especially if you are sitting at a computer and staring at the monitor. laughing
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          2. Passer
            Passer 19 January 2014 19: 53
            +2
            You're lucky, but I don't have a network at work, and I have to work. Or lay out the "kerchief".
          3. shuhartred
            shuhartred 19 January 2014 23: 33
            0
            Quote: major071
            The work cannot interfere with being on the "VO" resource. Especially if you are sitting at a computer and staring at the monitor. laughing

            If work interferes with drinking vodka ... and hereinafter.
      3. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 19 January 2014 20: 05
        +1
        but you have to work
        1. major071
          major071 19 January 2014 21: 28
          +4
          Work is not a wolf and will not run away into the forest. laughing Especially when there is nothing to do at work.
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 19 January 2014 23: 31
            0
            Quote: major071
            Work is not a wolf and will not run away into the forest. Especially when there is nothing to do at work.

            Why then go there? belay
  • Echo
    Echo 19 January 2014 08: 11
    0
    Quote: Rash
    Anti-empire is how? Type of voluntary-forced accession of small nations to the Russian Empire?

    It's strange, but I always thought that someone was forcibly attached to Russia very sporadically. In Siberia, the overwhelming majority of the indigenous population came on their own and demanded to be "accepted into the company." And they accepted it!
    Quote: Rash
    It was an empire both in essence and in meaning.

    What do you consider the essence and meaning of the empire?
  • 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 19 January 2014 08: 22
    +1
    Anatoly Aleksandrovich Wasserman, as always strictly argued, positioned Russia in relation to its population.
    I am inclined to think that the article also contains a direct hint about the inadmissibility of robbery, the ruling elite of the metropolis, where giant financial flows are scrolling, while the regions pick up crumbs from the lordly table.
  • Twilight
    Twilight 19 January 2014 08: 35
    +11
    We are probably the only empire that has not stained itself in the total destruction of indigenous peoples. I can judge from Siberia - they tried to enlighten and teach! And Wasserman, as always, is pleasant to read and ponder))
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 19 January 2014 10: 46
      0
      Which empires belong to the Persian, Babylonian, Chinese colonial or continental. For me, empires are divided into two types classical and Chinese type. Classical empires are when the imperial people are much smaller in number than the population of their colonies (Roman, English, Mongolian) and the peoples of the colonies are not threatened with assimilation. I attribute the second type of Chinese to Russia, where the number of the imperial people is greater than the number of the colonized and the colonized are facing assimilation. Assimilation is good or bad, everyone decides for himself.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 19 January 2014 14: 07
        +3
        Quote: Semurg
        Classical empires are when the imperial people are much smaller in number than the population of their colonies (Roman, English, Mongolian) and the peoples of the colonies are not threatened with assimilation. I attribute the second type of Chinese to Russia, where the number of the imperial people is greater than the number of the colonized and the colonized are facing assimilation. Assimilation is good or bad, everyone decides for himself.

        The first sign of a continental empire is the presence of several state entities in its composition.
        For example:
        The Austro-Hungarian Empire included: the Kingdom of Bohemia, the Kingdom of Dalmatia, the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria, the Archduke of Lower Austria, the Archduke of Upper Austria, the Kingdom of Hungary, the Kingdom of Croatia and Slavonia, the Duchy, Principality, and Margrave.
        The Russian Empire included:
        Great Russia, Little Russia, Belarus, Greater Poland, Kurland, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazan, Astrakhan, Bukhara, Kokand Khanate and others and others.
        Assimilation is voluntary. For more than 500 years, in Russia, there exist villages of Bashkirs, Tatars, Chuvashs, Mordovians, Mari, Udmurts, Komi, etc., all non-Russian peoples retained their original Mongoloid appearance, language, customs, rites, etc. .
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    3. Arhj
      Arhj 19 January 2014 11: 54
      +4
      Our state has never experienced an excess of population and could not scatter it even on sparsely populated territories. Therefore, the population of the affiliated regions in our country was considered as a people - taxable population with the same rights and obligations as the titular one. The attitude was like mine. If the people had a feudal elite, it became part of our elite. Moreover, often the national minority received benefits in comparison with the Russian.
      Western countries often considered the colonial population as a commodity. The local ruler in position was lower than the last sailor on a British ship.
      As a result, our minorities did not consider the Russians as enslavers, and therefore adopted their culture with all the ensuing consequences.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 19 January 2014 12: 50
        +1
        If you answered my post. My post does not say which state is good, which is bad, which type of colony is classical or Chinese is better or worse. For me, both are bad. This is how to choose what is best to cut off the tail of the dog immediately (ethnocide) or in pieces (assimilation), and in both cases the people of the colony disappear. True, assimilation always has a chance that the process will not be completed.
        1. Yuri Y.
          Yuri Y. 19 January 2014 14: 46
          +3
          Chinese so Chinese, call at least a pot only in the oven do not plant. And what better could say the local from the Russian territories in America. While they were in Russian jurisdiction they were citizens of the Russian Empire. As Alaska was sold, they became almost an object of hunting and residents of reservations. Tatars live in the center of modern Russia and are still Tatars. And so it is, including the Kazakhs. Whom you feel yourself and be, for God's sake, you do not need only fights and tantrums.
          1. Vasek
            Vasek 19 January 2014 18: 21
            +2
            Quote: Yuri Ya.
            And what better could say the local from the Russian territories in America. While they were in Russian jurisdiction they were citizens of the Russian Empire. As Alaska was sold, they became almost an object of hunting and residents of reservations.


            In Canada, the Russian Dukhobors (who settled there before the British, lived in their community and spoke only Russian) were simply forcibly converted to the British!
            Parents - in prisons, children - in boarding schools. As, however, and the Indians.
            A very shameful episode in their story. Then there were situations with the Chinese, the internment of Canadians of Japanese descent and much more such nasty things.
            The Germans in Namibia, bringing "order", cut off the heads of the rebels and forced their own widows to scrape and clean the skulls, which later in Germany were sold to shops of school manuals on anatomy.
            This is the real face of the colonial empires!
            But now they are trying to teach respect for human rights, criticize pressure on Ukraine, etc.
            Top hypocrisy!
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 19 January 2014 19: 08
              0
              Quote: Vasek
              In Canada, the Russian Dukhobors (who settled there before the British, lived in their community and spoke only Russian) were simply forcibly converted to the British!

              They went from a good life to overseas?
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              2. Vasek
                Vasek 20 January 2014 02: 09
                0
                Quote: Yarosvet
                They went from a good life to overseas?


                Canada
                Now in Canada lives up to 30 thousand descendants of the Dukhobors. Of these, 5 thousand people preserved their faith, more than half - knowledge of the Russian language as a mother tongue. One of the representatives - Tom Nevakshonov - is a prominent Canadian politician.
  • Twilight
    Twilight 19 January 2014 08: 46
    +3
    I would like to add that our neoliberal government is smart enough to stop in another attempt to steal state property (essentially strategic). No wonder people like Primakov are already concerned ((
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 19 January 2014 12: 47
      -2
      But what is Primakov busy with? He is also from this riffraff. In those years he was the prime minister and he really could stop this evil. But instead, he indulged in every possible way the robbery, and now he is trying to whitewash his name. But he will not be able to opoke us
      1. Vasek
        Vasek 19 January 2014 18: 24
        +1
        Quote: Basarev
        Why is Primakov busy? He’s also from this riffraff


        The only respected person from "this riffraff".
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 19 January 2014 20: 40
          0
          Primakov would have been respected - if he had stopped the beginning of the greatest robbery in history, he had a chance, but he did not use it.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 19 January 2014 09: 41
    +5
    Russia, as has been said more than once, did not have and do not have colonies. On the contrary, the annexed lands retained their way of life, traditions and some internal legislation — the Principality of Finland, the Kingdom of Poland, the Bukhara and Khiva Khanates, etc.
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 19 January 2014 10: 13
    +3
    As always, with Wasserman, everything is laid out on the shelves and only the stupid one does not understand the simplest truths. The policy pursued by Russia, then the USSR and the attempt to carry it out by present-day Russia is not to the liking of the so-called "partners": at first they destroyed the Russian Empire, then the USSR and finally they do everything to destroy modern Russia and its people. They are like a bone in the throat of Russia and its attitude to the weaker. We have never been robbers, but in every possible way helped the countries of the 3 world to throw off the shackles put on them by 1 world. And no matter how we dress up. The "leaders" 1 of the world, the slave-owning entity, is rushing out of them. But this cannot last forever, the peoples realized what kind of future the neocolonialists were preparing for them and will soon give a rebuff, which they have not yet received!
  • Mizhgan
    Mizhgan 19 January 2014 10: 16
    +1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    After the British came to India, certain industries also began to develop actively, but in general, the economy degraded, because all proceeds were exported to England. Isn’t it with us? Is government money resources not withdrawn abroad?

    There is a "disease" of the Russian state, a virus brought in from outside (you know yourself by whom), and thus a PART (!!!) of capital is exported, most of it remains in the Russian Federation. But there is also a powerful antibiotic - in the form of Putin's policies.
    The army is rebuilding, infrastructure, pensions and free medicine are being maintained, even if it’s not the same as in the USSR, but there are many other good things.
    First you need to destroy the source of the virus, then the virus itself inside the body. Otherwise, it makes no sense to crush the internal corrupt oligarchy, which is fueled from outside. This will only lead to another revolution within the country. Then - this is exactly pip.ets will come to the Russian Federation. And it will be only in history.
    So Putin is doing everything right. Hardening in the KGB makes itself felt.

    Py.Sy. More recently, the liberal public moaned about the shortcomings of Putin’s rule, finding any reason, but the time comes, and there are actions. But the liberals are few in number, for they take fuel from the enemies of the Russian Federation.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 19 January 2014 14: 36
      0
      Quote: Mijgan
      There is a "disease" of the Russian state, a virus brought in from outside (you know yourself by whom), and thus a PART (!!!) of capital is exported, most of it remains in the Russian Federation.

      Summing up everything you said, you don’t understand why capital is leaving Russia.
      Quote: Mijgan
      First you need to destroy the source of the virus, then the virus itself inside the body.

      Nothing can be done with the cause, for this reason is a harsh habitat that makes our economy uncompetitive.
  • pahom54
    pahom54 19 January 2014 10: 28
    +3
    Although Russia was considered (and some still think so) an empire, to put it mildly, it was and is a non-standard empire. During the Soviet era, the "voluntarily joined" union republics developed economically more rapidly than the core of the USSR, the RSFSR. So it is very, very difficult to call it colonialism of the first type.
    Even in the days of the USSR, we considered for free and without return fed many regime countries, if only in order to have some allies, at least when making various decisions at the UN. The same policy continues with Russia, which assumed the legal succession after the USSR (which not a single breakaway republic did !!!) and all of its debts, and as a rule, it forgave them the debts of US foreign countries. So who is Russia ripped off as sticky ??? Yes, nobody, it’s only her so-called friends who are constantly tearing her off.
    I myself called and I want to continue not only to call, but also to consider that Russia is an extraordinary empire, an empire in the sense that it has vast territories, huge raw material reserves. It would be necessary to add normal demography and a developed economy to this, then international weight will immediately be added. And now this is happening. And now, I hope that when Russia gains this weight (along with a developed economy and modern Armed Forces), when no one (NOBODY !!!) dares to indicate to her the place on the roost in the chicken coop, when she will put the authority of the presumptuous Yankees and their allies - then it will become an empire not of some types 1 and 2, but an empire in itself, a country independent of anyone. It is in this concept of empire that I see a new Russia ...
    1. negeroi
      negeroi 19 January 2014 11: 37
      +1
      Britain for 200 years, the United States for more than 100, did not allow the development of a situation where Russia could become something more. There are no prerequisites for the situation to change. Unless recently, in the last few years, we were allowed to multiply. And we are no longer we will die in millions, as in the first years after the bourgeoise revolution. But I am sure, as soon as we grow fat, and dare to build muscle, the "partners" will arrange another revolution. I have no data and no hopes, absolute hopelessness, Russia has no other future, except in the stall. But I believe, I just believe in Russia. We are fatalists, if we do not die, then we will break through.
    2. negeroi
      negeroi 19 January 2014 11: 37
      0
      Britain for 200 years, the United States for more than 100, did not allow the development of a situation where Russia could become something more. There are no prerequisites for the situation to change. Unless recently, in the last few years, we were allowed to multiply. And we are no longer we will die in millions, as in the first years after the bourgeoise revolution. But I am sure, as soon as we grow fat, and dare to build muscle, the "partners" will arrange another revolution. I have no data and no hopes, absolute hopelessness, Russia has no other future, except in the stall. But I believe, I just believe in Russia. We are fatalists, if we do not die, then we will break through.
  • Power
    Power 19 January 2014 10: 29
    0
    The brevity and clarity of Wasserman's thoughts wins over. Just one question, is "Empire" Russia now? Or as Fyodorov claims already "Metropolia"?
  • krpmlws
    krpmlws 19 January 2014 10: 56
    +5
    Mizhgan, do not cheat, what inevitable revolution are you broadcasting here ??? laughing Who will go after the oligarchs, who need them, they don’t have anything except for a bunch of dough. If they bake, they just dump them over the hill, business. Yes, now they started financing the army, because there are some positive trends in the economy, but all this is true or otherwise, it is done in the interests of the so-called Russian elite, but not the people. P. is an integral part of this elite and is an absolute conductor of their interests. Therefore, there is no fight against corruption, total theft, capital flight, a favorable economic situation is not created for the development of the manufacturing sector of the economy . Look how people live in the province, what salaries are horrible. And there are no prospects, at least with this government.
  • Boris63
    Boris63 19 January 2014 11: 11
    0
    An empire is not an empire, does it matter? For example, I think that Russia, as such, was never an empire. There were very few "subordination" states of the RI. The same Poles were "indignant" only because of their "imperial thinking", i.e. from the loss of such an opportunity.
  • demotivator
    demotivator 19 January 2014 11: 12
    +2
    Quote: Rash
    It was an empire both in essence and in meaning.

    Many states, developing along the path "up and in breadth", sooner or later become empires.
    There have been many empires throughout human history. Some historians and publicists considered the Soviet Union, the USA, the EU (European Union) as an empire. It is clear - they thought, but whether the USSR was an empire in the usual sense of the word - we still have to figure it out.
    Some states, such as France and Germany, went through the stage of the empire several times.
    The Russian Empire, although it was such in name, was very different from the Western empires in fact. And Wasserman writes about this, the truth is too abstruse and pretentious.
    The Russian empire is continental. It is formed by peoples, who have lived side by side for centuries. During this time they managed to form the technology of mutually beneficial interaction without any intervention of any single authority. Therefore, all that is required from the central government is not to interfere with this interaction. Of course, it is desirable that the central authorities impose their discipline on these already established methods of interaction in order to guarantee the observance of the procedure previously established by the peoples themselves, so that they can be sure that this interaction will continue, so that, roughly speaking, every person is sure: wherever he comes, he will obey the same uniform rules. But these rules themselves are established by the peoples themselves without the intervention of the central government. Therefore, for the continental empire, the methods of oppressing peoples, the methods of forcibly imposing any laws and rules on them are counterproductive: they lead to a decrease in labor productivity for the empire as a whole.

    Translated from Odessa into Russian, this means the following - in the Russian Empire there was no total robbery of the colonies, and there were no colonies as such either. In the Russian Empire, and then in the USSR, the border nations received all the opportunities for growth and development, sometimes even to the detriment of the interests of the people of the metropolis. In the Russian Empire, the two nations that were part of it (Polish and Finnish) had their statehood with all its attributes and complete freedom of action.
    And was there something similar, for example, in England, or France, or in the USA?
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 19 January 2014 11: 34
    +2
    The current state of affairs in Russia is definitely not neocolonialism. People live more or less decently in Moscow and other megacities, and in the metropolis (in the Russian province) people barely make ends meet. Money goes to the Caucasus under the pretext of extinguishing a terrorist center. Maybe we need more active biryulev, you look and the money will reach us.
  • runway
    runway 19 January 2014 11: 34
    +1
    Interestingly, the colony from the fact that it is continental or not continental, easier or harder? In my opinion, as you would not call a colony, it will remain a colony with all the ensuing consequences ....
    Now about the Russian Empire. Didn't she stay in 1917? True, there are still people who dream of returning it. And these are not only the inflated foreign heirs of the Romanov throne. There are also those whose ancestors lost very profitable spheres of income at that time, or who dreamed of acquiring them on this wave. Already smartly trading in counts and other titles is going on .... By the way, peasants and workers do not want to be such.
    Ah, did you mean the power of the EMPIRE? But if the category "EMPIRE" meant the power of the state, would the Russian Empire have lost the 1st World War, would it have disintegrated under the blows of revolutions?
    Dreaming, as they say, is not harmful. It is harmful to just dream and do nothing to strengthen the power of your country.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 19 January 2014 14: 41
      -2
      Quote: piston
      But if the category "EMPIRE" meant the power of the state, would the Russian Empire have lost the 1st World War, would it have disintegrated under the blows of revolutions?

      Russia did not lose the first world. Thanks to the Great Jewish Revolution of 1917 in Russia that Russia was not able to take advantage of the fruits of victory.
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 09: 58
        +1
        If you mean October 1917, then this has nothing to do with it. In February 1917, Russia was no longer able to wage a victorious war. And this is not the merit of the Jews, but of England and Germany itself, who conducted subversive activities in the highest echelons of power. They forced the tsar to abandon Russia to the mercy of liberal traitors. The complete lack of government until October 1917
  • Shatt
    Shatt 19 January 2014 11: 56
    0
    Now the neocolonies are not crushing so that they are poor and helpless. Take, for example, Australia and Canada - the neocolonies of Great Britain.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 19 January 2014 14: 54
      +1
      Quote: Shatt
      Take, for example, Australia and Canada - the neocolonies of Great Britain.

      Australia and Canada are not colonies
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    3. atalef
      atalef 19 January 2014 15: 04
      +3
      Quote: Shatt
      Take, for example, Australia and Canada - the neocolonies of Great Britain.

      Well, is it like a tail (England) turning a dog?
  • Boris55
    Boris55 19 January 2014 12: 16
    +1
    ... We - empire not colonial, but continental

    Odd me somehow it warped ... climbed into the dictionaries ...

    Meaning of the word Empire by Ephraim:
    Empire - 1. The monarchical state, headed by the emperor or empress.
    Empire in the Encyclopedic Dictionary:
    Empire - (from lat. Imperium - power) -
    1) a monarchical state, the head of which, as a rule, bore the title of emperor ...
    2) Empires were also called states that had colonial possessions (e.g., the British Empire).

    In my opinion, the definition of how an empire does not fit modern Russia ... it seems to me ...
    And since the wrong parameter was set at the very beginning, then ... well, further, sorry, I didn’t read it ...
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 10: 17
      +1
      This is so arbitrary that it is difficult to get to the bottom of the truth. Example! Russia at the beginning of the 20 century was an empire, which included: Poland, Finland, some kind of Courland, the Caucasus countries, Asian countries, part of China (Port Arthur). Someone voluntarily, fleeing from greater misfortune, joined, and someone, like Poland, was forced to peace and annexed, but they simply bought someone. But one must not forget that Russia in the 18 and 19 centuries defeated all of Europe, including France and Germany, and freed the Balkans from the Turks, and Suvorov’s Italian campaign. But for some reason Russia did not want to enslave these peoples and annex them to Russia. But, as a winner, she could do anything. I personally regret that Russia does not extend from the shores of the Atlantic to the shores of the Pacific Ocean and from the shores of the Mediterranean Sea to the shores of the Baltic! Many would not have been a problem. There would be no 1 and 2 world wars. And there would not be these revolutions. With reasonable management.
  • Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 19 January 2014 12: 43
    +2
    Russia does not need a colony; Heartland is self-sufficient in all types of resources.
    Teluroocracy and thalassocracy are antagonists, this must be remembered when building domestic and foreign policies.
  • shurup
    shurup 19 January 2014 13: 46
    -3
    An empire that is colonial, that is continental, that cosmic or Roman, is always an empire. Roman, by the way, also provided self-government to the provinces under the supervision of military curators (ACG of that time), monitoring only the fullness of cash flows to Rome.
    Moscow is now some kind of Rome there, which sends to the colonies not opium, but hydrocarbons and heroin in exchange for luxury goods, closing financial flows on itself.
    Therefore, it is more correct to speak not the Russian, but the Moscow Empire.
    I am interested in the new uprising of Spartak on this subject and who will gather under his banners. Slaves of an empire have no nationality.
    Yes, and who will Brutus now, or Russian Snowden?
    The story is a lady with spirochetes, some of which are pathogenic (this is me about the contraception of a history textbook announced recently by Putin).
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 19 January 2014 13: 47
    +4
    Of course, one cannot go to extremes of the late Soviet times, when we gave all sorts of benefits in exchange for promises to adhere to a socialist orientation, without even trying to check what exactly this orientation would express. But even from general economic considerations, it is clear: one-sided robbery even gives the robber himself much less than mutually beneficial interaction.

    Wasserman is mistaken, there was nothing like this in the USSR at any time.
    They helped develop the economy to those countries that had what to repay loans:
    Cuba - Moa nickel-cobalt deposit 2-th place in the world in reserves,
    Chile - 1 copper deposits in the world in terms of reserves,
    Angola - deposits of oil, diamonds, copper, phosphorites, tantalum, niobium, apatite, uranium,
    Vietnam - deposits of oil and gas, coal, ores of iron, manganese, chromium, tin, copper, lead, zinc, rare earth elements, bauxite, graphite, kaolin, apatite, precious stones.
    And so in all the countries that the USSR invested. A lot of ores, ore concentrates, minerals and metals mined and produced at joint ventures were imported into the USSR.
    It was the liberals who broke all economic ties with the countries of the "third world" for ideological reasons. As a result, Western countries have taken the place of the USSR and are reaping the fruits of the USSR's labors and investments.
    France and Canada collaborate with Cuba in the extraction of nickel and cobalt, not disdaining, like our liberals, the communist convictions of Fidel Castro.
    1. atalef
      atalef 19 January 2014 13: 58
      0
      Quote: Corsair5912
      They helped develop the economy to those countries that had what to repay loans: Cuba - Moa nickel-cobalt deposit 2nd place in the world in reserves, Chile - copper deposits 1st place in the world in reserves, Angola - oil, diamond, copper deposits , phosphorites, tantalum, niobium, apatite, uranium, Vietnam - deposits of oil and gas, coal, iron ores, manganese, chromium, tin, copper, lead, zinc, rare earth elements, bauxites, graphite, kaolin, apatite, precious stones

      Storyteller
      Year 2000. Write-off of 11-billionth (in dollar equivalent) debt to Vietnam.

      Year 2003. Write-off of Iraqi debt in the amount of 12 billion dollars.

      Year 2007] Russia writes off $ 4,7 billion in debt to Algeria in exchange for assurances from the Algerian authorities that new contracts were signed with the Russian Federation in the military-industrial sphere.

      Year 2007.] Mongolia deducted a debt of 11,1 billion dollars.

      Year 2007. Russia forgives Afghanistan the same (about 11 billion dollars) amount of debt.

      Year 2008. Russia, in exchange for lucrative contracts, is writing off 4,6 billions of dollars of debt to Libya. Contracts then had to be quickly curtailed due to known events.

      Year 2010. Mongolia again. Write-off of Russian (non-Soviet) debt in the amount of 168 millions (not billions) of dollars.

      Year 2012. The Russian Federation is writing off a number of African countries debt of about 20 billion dollars.

      Year 2012. Written off 11-billionth (some kind of magic number of debt) DPRK ..
      Year 2012. Debt of Kyrgyzstan in the amount of about 0,5 billion was written off.
      Year 2013. Cuban debt is being restructured, which, according to some sources, is about $ 30 billion.

      If we summarize to identify the total figure of debt cancellation by Russia, it turns out that the amount written off and restructured is about 116 billion. This amount is comparable to the expenditures of local budgets of a dozen Russian regions. In general, the amount is more than impressive.

      Quote: Corsair5912
      France and Canada cooperate with Cuba in the extraction of nickel and cobalt, not disdaining at all, like our liberals, Fidel Castro's communist convictions

      Yes, indeed, neither the American embargo prevents them (as well as all the remaining countries) But for some reason Cuba pay them, and the USSR --- 30 billion - wrote off belay
      1. shurup
        shurup 19 January 2014 14: 12
        +2
        Laying hens can be slaughtered for winter fodder debt and once eaten. But, if you need eggs, then it is better to continue to feed her. Do not eat the feed yourself.
      2. Power
        Power 19 January 2014 19: 08
        -1
        Corruption! Who owed them to the country? And now such an uncle Vasya is passing by, or Ivan Ivanovich is not - a small rollback and Cuba, or let's say Honduras should already be ten times less, but nothing should be trifled at all. An "effective manager" is more dangerous than an atomic bomb.
      3. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 10: 32
        0
        Not the USSR, but Russia has already written off. Because one must be friends with Cuba and deploy troops and nuclear bases there, in case of a conflict with America. Russia now lacks submarines and aircraft carriers and it takes them a very long time to build. And we have enough sugar, nickel and cobalt. Just why not help Cuba in the development of industry in exchange for strategic opportunities.
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    3. shurup
      shurup 19 January 2014 14: 00
      +1
      You did not mention Venezuela, where now the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus demonstrate Soviet-style cooperation. In addition to the joint development of deposits, they are also building DSK, schools, hospitals, incl. Not to mention weapons and bases.
      1. atalef
        atalef 19 January 2014 14: 16
        -4
        Quote: shurup
        You did not mention Venezuela, where now the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus demonstrate Soviet-style cooperation. In addition to the joint development of deposits, they are also building DSK, schools, hospitals, incl. Not to mention weapons and bases.

        Exactly in the spirit of the USSR - you were not mistaken
        Russia will provide Venezuela with a loan totaling $ 2,2 billion in exchange for the admission of Russian oil companies to develop fields in this Latin American country and the purchase of Russian weapons. For this, Hugo Chavez awarded Vladimir Putin with an order and a sword and promised to flood Russia with coffee, cocoa, bananas and flowers

        BANANAS !!!! Are there many Venezuelan bananas in Russia?
        The loan will be given by bolivars (at the dollar rate of the Central Bank of Venezuela). But
        The currency in Venezuela is Bolivars (Bs.F), or “Strong Bolivars,” Bolivar Fuerte. This is what he called Hugo Chavez for patriotic reasons. The country has an official Bolivar exchange rate and the so-called “parallel” (black market rate). It’s important to know in order to understand why at the official currency exchange office you will receive 100 Bs for $ 630, and on the black market - 2700-2800 Bs. (Information as of June 18, 2013). But remember that the exchange is fraught with risks, so you need to change in parallel with trusted people.
        Currency at the official rate can be exchanged at the "casa de cambio" exchange offices at 6,3 bolivars per dollar, and at the parallel exchange rate at 27-28 bolivars *. Keep in mind that the exchange of "bolivars into dollars" is almost impossible

        All in the best Soviet traditions.
        Bananas will be golden
        1. shurup
          shurup 19 January 2014 15: 28
          +3
          Some of the "bananas" can and will get to Russia and really fill up the markets of the Leningrad region, but wholesale, due to its cheapness, will fill up half of Russia, but under a different labeling at retail. Of course, it won't get to the Far East - there are closer suppliers.
          The main share of oil and "bananas" will go the traditional way, for example in the USA, but having become Russified and you will get your 30 for a thaler in an exchanger if you want.
          Gold will not be bananas, but credit cards of Russian citizens, but not of all, which is not Soviet.
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          2. atalef
            atalef 19 January 2014 15: 33
            -1
            Quote: shurup
            Some of the "bananas" can and will get to Russia and really fill up the markets of the Leningrad region. Gold will not be bananas, but credit cards of Russian citizens, but not all, which is not Soviet style

            Hope dies last . Good luck hi laughing
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          4. atalef
            atalef 19 January 2014 17: 16
            -2
            Quote: shurup
            Some of the "bananas" can and will get to Russia and really fill up the markets of the Leningrad region

            By the way, last year I was in the Len.oblast (specifically the city of Volkhov, Syasstroy, Shlisselburg, Peter --- did not see any bananas (Venezuelan) hi
            1. popandopulo
              popandopulo 19 January 2014 18: 04
              +6
              By the way, last year I was in the Len.oblast (specifically the city of Volkhov, Syasstroy, Shlisselburg, Peter --- did not see any bananas (Venezuelan) hi[/ Quote]
              and so, the inhabitants of Len. Areas crying, praying to God and cursing trouble? or have you beg for bananas?
        2. ed65b
          ed65b 19 January 2014 17: 53
          +1
          atalef - What about this Jew for you? The toad is strangling ??? We want to write off no. Go in your house say yes.
          1. popandopulo
            popandopulo 19 January 2014 18: 09
            +7
            his house is small and stuffy. and there are not just a lot of atalefs, but shitty death, and here the Russian open spaces and anti-Semitism are prohibited by the rules of the site, why not frolic.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 19 January 2014 18: 49
              0
              Quote: popandopulo
              his house is small and stuffy.

              No, his house is probably not small, as it should be in the metropolis. And the condos are probably worth it.
              Quote: popandopulo
              and so, the inhabitants of Len. areas cry, pray to god and curse trouble

              I have an aunt in Kingisepp, guess how they live there now? There is no work. One town, of course, is not the entire Len.region, but for what I know, I’m talking. hi
              1. atalef
                atalef 19 January 2014 21: 55
                -2
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                No, he’s probably not a small house,

                For sure

                Quote: Ingvar 72
                And the condos are probably

                Central, to all rooms good

                Quote: Ingvar 72
                I have an aunt in Kingisepp, guess how they live there now? There is no work. One town, of course, is not the entire Len.region, but for what I know, I’m talking.

                Dv Volkhov is also not ice. Thanks to Rusal - close the first-born of the USSR Aluminum Industry.
        3. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 10: 39
          0
          America does the same. Their nonprofit organizations are almost a waste of money to counter the existing regime in Russia. After all, America may fail and Russia will not be put on its knees. Therefore, everyone who is sorry for our money in other countries will be pitied later, when they begin to bang us from across the ocean.
    4. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 19 January 2014 19: 18
      +1
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Wasserman is mistaken

      Yes, he is not mistaken, but purposefully drips into the brain with the aim of introducing into his mind the thought of the need to legalize feudalism, which is already de facto.
    5. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 20 January 2014 10: 24
      0
      Just recently they forgave Cuba a huge debt. And others did not give anything at all. Helped to crush capitalism. For example: in 1945, they could not impose socialism in the occupied territories, but leave them alone, even if they simply rejoice that fascism has been defeated.
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 19 January 2014 14: 02
    +4
    Russia bore the burdens of protecting the peoples of the empire from external threats. In addition, taxes for small nations were lower than for the Russian population. These are some of the delights of continental colonialism.
    Well, and after the collapse of the Union, delusions appeared about violence and slavery by Russia. Many tribes of the Caucasus
    destroyed by the Turks and Persians, voluntarily went under the arm of the White Tsar. And now, we hear from them
    endless cries of oppression.
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 19 January 2014 15: 27
    +1
    By the way, about the Bolivars! Gadaffi dreamed of a golden dinar, eventually removed. Chavez was also a golden bolivar. So, everyone can see. This is all about neocolonialism and world rulers / rulers of transnational companies represented by 6 families of the SAG and England.
    In general, Anatoly Aleksandrovich is right, Russia carried a civilizational mission. This we see now in the post-Soviet space: many states of the former Union are not able to be within
    status of the state. There are plenty of examples.
  • Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 19 January 2014 15: 59
    +2
    GO RUSSIA !!
  • Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 19 January 2014 16: 30
    +5
    Anatoly Alexandrovich is right. no matter how the Russian empire expanded, local customs and cultures were never oppressed, languages ​​and religions were always preserved, and only innovations and progress were introduced.
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 19 January 2014 22: 08
    0
    There would be more people in Russia like Anatoly Aleksandrovich! An interesting article., Everything is arranged on the shelves, and it’s necessary, without new-fangled phrases. Once again I repeat, he should be entrusted with editing a textbook on the history of Russia, which is talked about so much.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 20 January 2014 00: 38
    +2
    Mom, dear! Only nicknames and not a single living person! What are we afraid of - in our own Russia? We have already taken away the patronymic, and now the name. Do not judge strictly, here is the will of the site admins. I am only for specific identification. I wish you everything and everything. Otherwise, we are not the people, but the devils in the pictures.
  • dr.dostanko
    dr.dostanko 21 January 2014 23: 50
    0
    The perfect addition
    Quote: Arhj
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  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 22 January 2014 12: 20
    0
    The article is correct, it spreads the myths of Western "politicians" who are doing everything possible to present today's Russia as a kind of neo-colonial monster to smithereens. Judging by the responses, it is striking (as a half-confirmation of the truth of the article) these are the screams of some lovers of trolling and denigrating an intelligent person, striking without a miss on the most sore spots of our fierce "partners" and their henchmen among us. And the most important thing is that the majority in their comments supported Wasserman, well, wait, he will show you the enemies!