China is developing two types of attack helicopters

Recent photos posted on the Chinese Internet show China’s significant progress in military helicopter programs, according to January flightglobal.com 9.

The Harbin Z-19 light attack helicopter (top photo) with a radar system and anti-tank missiles has been created. In terms of its efficiency, it is approximately comparable to the European Tiger of Airbus Helicopters. Overhead radar, similar to the Boeing AH-64E Apache Longbow, significantly increases the combat potential for hitting targets at long distances.

Z-19 is one of two Chinese programs to create attack helicopters. The second CAIC WZ-10 helicopter (the second photo) is heavier and approximately the same size as the AN-64.

A helicopter was created with the unofficial name Harbin Z-20 (bottom photo), in appearance similar to the American multi-purpose Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk, but unlike it has a five-blade main rotor (the American helicopter has a four-blade propeller).

The Chinese army still uses 20 helicopters S-70, received from the United States in the middle of 1980's.

Comments

[klimpopov]

And even China has installed a radar ...

[ShturmKGB]

Biting fleas ...

[A.YARY]

Well, at least it's not stolen from us!
But does Ansat somehow remind you? The shape of the case or what?

[klimpopov]

So we don’t have anything to rub, the Mi-28 still has not resolved the issue ...

[svp67]

Quote: klimpopov

And even China has installed a radar ...

To install a container does not mean to achieve the normal operation of all systems, when they launch it in a series, then we'll see ...

[klimpopov]

It is truth too...

[St Petrov]

it’s good that the border with China is finally approved =]

[klimpopov]

What does a piece of paper mean?

[St Petrov]

a piece of paper is backed up by SNF =] what a panic mood.

[klimpopov]

It’s not clear that the strategic nuclear forces. And no one in their right mind will climb. And yet ... Paper is paper ...

[Akim]

Quote: klimpopov

What does a piece of paper mean?

Especially for China. They have 120 million citizens languishing in close conditions at the border, and in the Far East there are so many desert territories!

[St Petrov]

The harsh truth of life is that we are not particularly needed by the Chinese. With an average salary in China of $ 500 and much cheaper than in the Far East, there is no financial sense of emigration and guest workers. In addition, in China itself there are huge sparsely populated territories that the Chinese are not in a hurry to develop. They even have empty cities with built infrastructure in which there are no residents at all (if you do not believe it, Yandex will tell you about this in detail, or for example http://zagony.ru/2010/10/08/kangbashi__pustojj_gorod_v_kitae_13_foto.html). Canned areas. So about the Chinese living like herring near the border and dreaming of expansion - a myth.

The Chinese love warmth: the snowy Far East is too cold for them. Now in the Far East there are very few Chinese. More than two at a time can be seen in the market, at a stop near the hostel, at a construction site and at the Faculty of Oriental Languages ​​at a local university. (this was confirmed to me by the guys from Birobidzhan, Khabarovsk and Vladivostok =] I, too, used to be a supporter of the theory of expansion of China, I was interested in guys in part, there used to be a time when there were a lot of them, but this trend is already running out)

[Akim]

Pushkov is a smart guy. About China: (see from 14.20)

[Nayhas]

Quote: s-t Petrov

So about the Chinese living like herring near the border and dreaming of expansion - a myth.

The Chinese live where the party orders them.

Quote: s-t Petrov

The Chinese love warmth: the snowy Far East is too cold for them.

It is a myth. The Chinese settled earlier in the uninhabited Gorno-Badakhshan region of Tajikistan, the living conditions are much harsher there than in the Far East; moreover, they are engaged in agriculture there by introducing this into the stupor of the Tajiks who previously believed that it was impossible to grow anything there, it was cold and there was practically no water. Why settled? Yes, because the party said to populate areas chopped off from Tajikistan in spite of climatic conditions.

Now in the Far East there are very few Chinese.

Recently I was in Khabarovsk, not so "not many" (I can distinguish a Korean from a Chinese).
There are many of them in Siberia, in Buryatia, they live compactly until you get to their area, you will not notice that they are. What can I say, from my window in the evenings I see a glow from their greenhouses ...

[GEORGY RUSSIAN]

interesting information, literally today I read the prophecies of Wanga and she said that at the turn of the epoch, China would become allies of Russia, with its technology and economy, and India.

[Nick]

Quote: Akim

They have 120 million citizens languishing in close conditions at the border, and in the Far East there are so many desert territories!

In the sense of rabsil for the development of the territory needed?

[ikrut]

"Tales from the Vienna Woods". Firstly, China has a lot of territories with a very low population density. And in terms of population density, China ranks 9th in the world. Moreover, 90% of the population lives on 40% of the area. Most of all in the southeastern seaside part. The vast territories on the periphery of China are practically deserted. Secondly, next to China there is a huge and practically deserted Mongolia, where both the climate and natural conditions for life (similar to the one in the Baikal region of Russia) are better than in the Russian Far East. m third - the Chinese themselves are now very concerned about the influx of guest workers from poorer countries (Bangladesh, India, Vietnam, etc.) Recently I read how an apartment was covered in China where 20 (!) newcomers from Great Britain lived. They were engaged in teaching English in private schools. The world is changing. And I think it's time to change the thinking patterns.

[saag]

on the first photo some sort of Mi-24 hybrid and Apache

[Nayhas]

Quote: saag

on the first photo some sort of Mi-24 hybrid and Apache

And where did you see Apache or Mi-24? Is that a tandem crew arrangement? Actually, a pure European ...

[saag]

I made a mistake with the pictures, I meant - CAIC WZ-10

[Nayhas]

Quote: saag

I made a mistake with the pictures, I meant - CAIC WZ-10

The roots of the WZ-10 are not quite the same; this is clearly a collection of Denel AH-2 Rooivalk and Eurocopter Tiger and RAH-66 Comanche. Our truth had a hand in it; Kamov Design Bureau participated in the development of the WZ-10.

[Basarev]

The first somehow looks a lot like the Ka-60

[Akim]

In general, a light attack helicopter is the right decision. Will act at the battalion level. Heavy helicopters (Mi-28, WZ-10, Apache) cover the brigade.

[URAL72]

If reconnaissance has been established (for example, drones), then a light striker is not needed: - it has NO "armor" -protection, less range (and less location in the target area), combat load and, as a consequence, the range of weapons. Considering the development of ground strike weapons (MLRS, OTR, artillery), the constant increase in the range and accuracy of fire, the presence of cluster munitions, basing "near the line of contact" becomes too risky, if not impossible. Previously, they often practiced a bunch: shock - light reconnaissance shock, but now there are so many reconnaissance equipment on board that such a need has disappeared, or it can be compensated for by other means. The evacuation of a wounded crew from the battlefield is also not a problem for us - both the Mi-24/35 and the Mi-28 have a compartment for this (the Mi-28 will only fit 3 people).

[Akim]

Quote: URAL72

If reconnaissance is established (drones for example), then a light drummer is not needed:

A light attack helicopter, in terms of combined arms combat - is quite acceptable. He attacks the targets without going into the range of MANPADS, and for the regiment / brigade air defense, he is too small a bipod. But such a helicopter is necessary. Of course, it is better to have a UAV according to the helicopter scheme. But this is only theoretically so far. As for him as a scout, really, he is not needed

[Sergey Sitnikov]

but for me it’s already impossible to do a crocodile so much - that’s certainly Shaitan-arba, I don’t argue new ones with cool stuffing, others with cool maneuvers, but that charisma is terrifying in one look))) neither the cobra nor the shark have it

[Basarev]

And besides, Crocodiles continue to modernize - have you heard about the Mi-35M? This is Lani performed by the twenty-first century.

[GEORGY RUSSIAN]

charisma in war do not fight

[Saburo]

Well, it seems impossible to talk about full copying, at least about the Z-19. It is based on the Z-9, which is a licensed copy of the French Eurocopter Dauphin, it is also worth recalling that the first Chinese attack helicopter with a tandem cockpit, the WZ-10 was completely designed by Kamovtsy. So here a hybrid comes out of the purchased technologies.

Well, about the Z-20, and so everything is clear. Until the last screw, the original Chinese project.

[Chicot 1]

About nothing. More precisely, about what has already been known for a long time. Minus...

[propolsky]

And again a hard copy, developing so that soon we will copy from them.

[igor36]

A helicopter was created, which has the unofficial name Harbin Z-20 (bottom photo), in appearance similar to the American multi-purpose Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk, but unlike it has a five-blade main rotor (the american helicopter has four rotors).

Cool black hawk with four screws ...

[ab_hybac]

Cool black hawk with four screws.

[alone]

Kings of copying))) Nothing more to say

[colonel manuch]

The trouble is that they learn too fast.

[Prapor-527]

Reminded of this ... RAH-66 Comanche.