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Baltic panorama: they clearly lack the “practical occupation” ...

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The first positions in the rate of population reduction in the entire post-Soviet space are retained by the Baltic states. The authorities of the above-mentioned states at the time stated that the population size would necessarily decrease at that moment when the “three Baltic sisters” would become members of the European Union. They say that at this stage, citizens rush to the "Schengen" to earn, but as soon as the "Schengen" comes to the Baltic States "with their feet," then no one will break anywhere, but feel "life in chocolate" at home.


Next year 10 will be exactly years since the aspirations of the authorities of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania came true, and these states became EU members, but did this solve the problem of population outflow from the Baltic states abroad? Judging by the latest data on the state of affairs with the Baltic demography, the “Schengen” who came “with their own feet” did not become a panacea.

So, if we talk about the numbers corresponding to the population of the Baltic states, they are approximately the following:
Today, about 1 million 286 thousand people live in Estonia, one third of whom live in the Estonian capital - Tallinn;
The population of Latvia is about 2 million. 110 thousand people;
The number of Lithuanian residents is 3 million. 012 thousand people.

Baltic panorama: they clearly lack the “practical occupation” ...


If we compare these values ​​with those of the sample 2004 of the year - the year when the Baltic republics were on the verge of joining the European Union, we get a picture of impressive demographic losses.

The number of residents of Estonia over the past 10 years has decreased by 4,7%, residents of Latvia - by 9,1%, residents of Lithuania - by more than 12%! These are significant losses that, with a minus sign, affect the Baltic economy.

The Estonian government, realizing that joining the European Union did not in the least influence the leveling of the demographic situation in the country, decided to offer the population new tales about when the Estonian demography would “shoot out”. The plot of the fairy tales was connected with the plans for the entry of a single zone of free circulation of the single European currency. The entry for Estonia into the eurozone took place on January 1 of the year 2011. However, over the next two years, the number of residents of the Estonian state ultimately not only did not increase, but did not even stabilize. Continued decline in population.

It is noteworthy that in the 2011 for the first time since 1990 in Estonia, the statistical services noted a minimal, but still population increase - within the limits of statistical error. Then it was an encouraging sign for the Estonian leadership. Like, we told you that after we are admitted to the euro zone, things with demography will go uphill. However, the authorities' joy turned out to be short-lived, because those people who decided to return from Europe and other countries to the gloomy Baltic shores, seeing that joining the eurozone only firmly set Estonia on eurocredits, again set off to seek monetary happiness abroad. So the demographic minus in 2012 in comparison with the previous year was immediately 3% - the absolute average annual record for the last decade.

Since 1 January 2014, Latvia is becoming a member of the eurozone, and a year later, Lithuania will join the strong and tied family of German and French euro loans a year later. If it were not for the Estonian version of almost three years ago, it would be possible to believe in Lithuanian-Latvian fairy tales “about the white bull”, namely about the demographic increase in these countries. Yes, only Estonian statistics says that neither Latvia nor Lithuania has any illusions about the return of citizens who have departed from them in different years to these countries, and even less about the birth rate boom, even in the most ambitious plans. Eurocurrency in the formula for the return of compatriots, as it turned out, is very very indirect.

By the way, if we continue the consideration of the demographic trend in the countries in question on the eastern outskirts of the European Union, we can single out one more remarkable fact. The current population of Estonia, for example, is equivalent in its numbers to that of the distant 1966 year. The number of inhabitants of Lithuania is comparable to the number of inhabitants of the Lithuanian SSR of the sample 1967 of the year. In Latvia, more interesting! Latvian 2013 indicators of the year are identically equal to indicators of the Khrushchev period of the 1959 year. That is, that 55 years ago in the "hated USSR", that now - in the "bright Euro-real."

In terms of birth rates on 1000 residents, modern Estonia (surprisingly!) Does not match the parameters of any of the years of documented demographic observations of the pre-Soviet and Soviet periods (from 1912 to 1990). In other words, never in stories Estonian state (before 1990) did not have such low birth rates as it did after gaining independence and joining the “new family”. The birth rate in Estonia today is about 11,3 people per 1000 residents. This is 2,9 points lower than 1967 and 1990 (the worst demographic point of view of the Soviet period for Estonia). Even worse birth rates in Estonia were only in the period from 1993 to 2006. This is about the perennial question of the Soviet "occupation" and "oppression" of the Baltic peoples by the Stalin regime ... Apparently, the "invaders" forcibly forced the Estonians, excuse me, to multiply during the time the republic was part of the Soviet Union. And, apparently, the Estonians are so tired of this that today they decided to "rest" ... Estonian grandfathers and fathers are tired - their children and grandchildren are resting, expecting that the European Union and children will supply with loans ... Although there is no reason to hope for the European Union even here Well, they did not learn (and thank God, of course) LGBT couples to give birth to children ...

It turns out that if the Baltic demographic statistics will not improve, and the space will become more and more, then the Baltic shores can be favored by guests from sunny states ... Afro-Estonians - without thinking ...

But the Balts, as it turned out, are waiting for the Russians again ... In a peculiar manner, of course, while by means of tourist variations ... They say, first tourism, and then suddenly someone decides to settle on the Euro-bank ...

Estonians, for example, have gathered to increase the tourist flow from Russia to their country by displaying original commercials that have already bypassed many resources. In the commercials, Russians are invited to go to Estonia to enjoy the beauties of this country. Only now the Russians have been decided (apparently, in order not to smear the impression of the West about their “non-affinity”) in a grotesque version - in the form of awkward matryoshkas who become disturbers of the Estonian tranquility. Some of the Russians for the Estonians were even offended for it - they say, why are they of us idols and ignorant people do? Yes, just to be offended by the Estonians to anything. Why? Well, after all, they themselves sign that we, the Russians, need them, no matter what. It is even more possible to say: they need ours again — a sensible “occupation” (since they like to use that word) —the new parish of Russians. They are already and we, and syak - and hints, and statistics, and rollers - they say, guys, let's do this as we do: we (Estonia) - as if Europe, as if with a mustache, as if we could manage with euro, but you come - do not hesitate, we will only picture you a little, so that THEY don't think anything. In general, make yourself comfortable and at home ...
Well, what - well done - the trend caught. Not at the government level, of course, but this is only the beginning ...

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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 27 December 2013 09: 37
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    There are losses, yes.
    But there are acquisitions — the money that the Baltic States gave the EU they did not plunder, and spent as it should.
    We suck a different picture in Romania, Bulgaria, where there was incredible corruption.
    Due to the lack of patriotism, first of all, for the patriot will not steal money allocated to his state on the roads, for example!
    I don’t know how strong patriotism is in the Baltic states, but with such an upsurge of nationalism, most likely it is also far from last.
    And people are leaving, the industry has slipped, there is no work!
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 27 December 2013 10: 02
      +37
      “Three Baltic Sisters” will become members of the European Union.

      Let's talk straight-three whores of Breshington and NATA.
      And I think let them continue to bend!
      1. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 27 December 2013 11: 20
        .
        Let's talk straight-three whores of Breshington and NATA.

        Russia is more like a whore they have us, and despite this, our people are already in sufficient numbers going to the Baltic states to rest.
        1. Flinky
          Flinky 27 December 2013 11: 49
          +28
          Rest in the Baltic states - your blue dream? If so, go there and have nothing to shit on your country.
          1. Canep
            Canep 27 December 2013 17: 57
            +2
            There used to be an anecdote: "A Russian in Riga asks how to get to Jauniela Street, from a local resident, that one to him: go through pramoo pootoom on prafoo zattem na leefo and taam budeet foosaal (station in the sense)" The anecdote seems to be no longer relevant.
        2. smile
          smile 27 December 2013 15: 49
          +5
          tverskoi77
          If you earn on the panel. then you should not think that the whole of Russia is like you, stop talking to shlendras and talk to normal people ... not with customers ... you’ll understand right away. that you are mistaken ... :)))
        3. T-73
          T-73 28 December 2013 02: 08
          -1
          Do you seriously think that Russia is like a whore? Little Troll? Tolley will still be, come on, garny lads pederasts! And let's talk directly. Pissing?
          1. tverskoi77
            tverskoi77 30 December 2013 14: 05
            +3
            Quote: smile
            tverskoi77
            If you earn on the panel. then you should not think that the whole of Russia is like you, stop talking to shlendras and talk to normal people ... not with customers ... you’ll understand right away. that you are mistaken ... :)))


            Quote: T-73
            Do you seriously think that Russia is like a whore? Little Troll? Tolley will still be, come on, garny lads pederasts! And let's talk directly. Pissing?


            I will not be like you in "smart" terms and will try to objectively answer what they would think without emotion.
            There is one very correct concept - self-esteem. In relation to the Baltic states, Russia never acted as a conqueror or occupier; we fought for the Baltic lands with many but not the local population. In different periods many of our soldiers died, Russia invested a lot of money in the development of these regions. Russia did not destroy the local culture and language. The Balts enjoyed all the benefits and were equal with all other citizens of the country. And the list goes on and on.
            What is happening now in the Baltic: Russian people made under-citizens, scoff at the Russian language, distort names. They will abduct and rewrite history, making us monsters and invaders. Support and develop fascism at the state level. They act as obedient yapping ... and this list will be considerable.
            At the same time, understanding that their economic well-being is directly related to Russia (and little by little they establish trade and economic relations).
            What should be the logical position of a state with self-respect in this situation? Right! At the very least, end all relationships with these freaks. And what happens: (type in the search engine "weekend tours to the baltics"), go to the dairy department of the store, ask through whom the goods from Europe transit, from whose powder we make milk in accordance with GOST, from where repainted foreign cars go and now even without removing the number (not releasing the brake) ... etc. A lot of interesting things can be learned for thought.
            In the end, who is more like a prostitute in this situation?
        4. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 30 December 2013 10: 21
          +3
          how can you go to the baltics if there are ours with you Russian people are formalized by their laws as "not citizens" ?? In principle, I will not go to these subhumans, unless on a tank.
      2. gosha1970
        gosha1970 27 December 2013 12: 51
        +6
        Why wish the common people perdition? Freak you're AYARY
      3. duke
        duke 27 December 2013 13: 29
        +11
        Quote: A.YARY
        “Three Baltic Sisters” will become members of the European Union.

        Let's talk straight-three whores of Breshington and NATA.
        And I think let them continue to bend!

        Dear Yary, and I am far from the idea of ​​wishing only a bend for the Balts and even European protégés - the "Baldeans", besides, do not forget that there are many of our people there, and many normal people sympathize with Russia, for example, Orthodox Estonians and Latvians are not delighted with geyeurops ... Lithuania, for example, has a special relationship with White Russia, points of understanding - you can find ... the problem is in the absence:
        - an intelligible, long-term policy (which, with all the shortcomings, was still with our kings)
        - the rise in our own country, - "showcases" for them, and often for our own youth (as the Chinese and the "new tigers" managed to do), in the inability to build competent relations, incl. and with carrots and tough methods - in order to bind them economically and politically to themselves, by "fraternal" embraces, as, for example, Brussels and Washington (or the Turks in the Balkans, in the Muslim regions) do it competently ... - that under Brussels it became better for them to live ? Far from it, but this is what it means to competently enter all the echelons of power of our people, raising them from a young age (remember how in Georgia they “raised” and “led” the same Sahak, in Ukraine, Yushcha, and in our country, for example, a permanent revolutionary - the granddaughter of Rosa Zemlyachki - Sirozhi Udaltsova, don't be remembered by nightfall) ... we still have to learn and learn these technologies, but it is not harmful to study, but with heavy and frostbitten Baltic Natsiks, the conversation should be short, American methods should play them off and put them down below the plinth, knock out of the political cage by various methods and make political corpses. Although time is lost at this stage, but if we do not do this, just as no one in the government is engaged, for example, with migration, then nothing will change and we will lose forever.
        1. Max otto
          Max otto 27 December 2013 14: 57
          +7
          Quote: duke
          ... Lithuania, for example, has special relations with White Russia, points of understanding - you can find ...

          I don’t know with others, but I need to save the Lithuanians, they are the most sane of the three Baltic states, and genetically they are Slavs, they just don’t understand this, they are ashamed of it. In short, a policy of cultivation and drawing into the Russian orbit is needed here. It is necessary to collect all the fragments of the nation.
          1. smile
            smile 27 December 2013 15: 59
            +1
            Max otto
            Genetically, Lithuanians are closer to the Indians. than to the Russians ... you have some kind of fairy-tale-based ideas ... They are the same Slavs as we are the Romans.
            1. alone
              alone 27 December 2013 20: 41
              -1
              Quote: smile
              Max otto
              Genetically, Lithuanians are closer to the Indians. than to the Russians ... you have some kind of fairy-tale-based ideas ... They are the same Slavs as we are the Romans.

              laughing With such a pace Vladimir hi , soon Max will say that it’s time to save the Azerbaijanis, because they are also Slavs, but they themselves don’t know this)) lol
          2. Bosk
            Bosk 27 December 2013 17: 53
            +1
            Latvians, by the way, are also Slavs ...
          3. Jipo
            Jipo 27 December 2013 19: 13
            +1
            Well, not the Slavs, of course, but they have more sanity than the Chukhons.
            1. Bosk
              Bosk 27 December 2013 19: 35
              +3
              For the wise guy who minus threw Latvians and Lithuanians Slavs, Estonians are already really closer to the Finns!
              1. yur
                yur 28 December 2013 00: 56
                +7
                But where does the Slavs, not the Slavs? Pole Bzezhinsky is also a Slav and what should I consider his brother? I am more related to the German who fought against Hitler in the Red Army. No wonder it is said, "judge by their deeds ...".
          4. Fedya
            Fedya 27 December 2013 22: 57
            +2
            For Lyatovtsy there are only Lyatovtsy, and ... Indos! Everyone else is second grade.
        2. smile
          smile 27 December 2013 15: 57
          +10
          duke
          You simply do not know how Lithuania communicates with Belarus. Lithuanians, with the help of the special services of their curators, in every possible way cultivate ideas in Belarus. that Belarusians are an alien to the Russian people. having nothing in common with us, just when the evil Russia seized the Lithuanian lands, it Russified the brotherly people of Lithuania. Well, and, of course, they support the Belarusian marsh and all kinds of opponents of the father’s ...
          Do you like this kind of communication?
          But the Baldian Natsiks are firmly rooted in from the authorities; others make their way there with difficulty. Statement of sympathy for Russia. and even more so. statement. that with us it was or will be better than under the European Union is the definitive end of the career of any local politician. In this regard, the end of the career of President Paxas, who was almost impeached after he tried to turn to face us, is very indicative.
          1. Max otto
            Max otto 27 December 2013 17: 39
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            Of course I don’t know, I don’t see or hear them, they can do whatever they want there, so far, their work is going nowhere, it makes little sense. To paraphrase a famous saying: to agitate us - what to paint the sky.
            At the expense of the Ndians, however, you have bent, and, historically, the tribes of one Slavic group simply broke away a long time ago.
            http://haplogroup.narod.ru/genetics_components.html
            1. smile
              smile 27 December 2013 19: 20
              +1
              Max otto
              This, of course, is good, but I doubt that you have heard about fashion trends in Belarus, that Belarusians and not Belarusians at all, but some Litvinians. Lithuanians. although they laugh at themselves, they support this business in every way. And on the shield she was raised in perestroika. when a part of the Belarusians saw and understood. that they were never Russian, but were always Litvin. In general, you do not see in vain attempts - all kinds of seminars, student gatherings, recreation camps, courses ... systematic work is going on ...

              And I mentioned the Indians only because the topic of the fact that the Pralitians are Arias from India ... :))) yeah, on foot .... :))) In principle, it is very fashionable in the Lithuanian scientific near-historical environment. even in the territories of fragmented residence of the Slavs and Lithuanian tribes, one can clearly distinguish - who lived where - the customs and used tools and household items were very different ...

              You gave an interesting link, then I'll look in more detail. but it struck me that the share of the genetic material, called North Siberian, was 80 percent among the Lithuanians and about 70 among the Russians .... amusing schedules ... by the way, I read somewhere that our genotype and reeds coincide where 70 percent ... :))) I can not vouch for the accuracy :)))
              In addition, it is impossible to understand who assimilated whom and when and how on the chart it influenced or could influence .... :))) In general, an interesting link, thanks.
          2. abdrah
            abdrah 27 December 2013 18: 40
            0
            In the year 39, the Lithuanians said, Vilnius Musu, Lithuania Rusu, which Vilnius (Vilnius) meant was the capital and the name of the country Lithuania was to the Lithuanians (then they were called Zhmuda, Zhmud and their capital was Kovno, present-day Kaunas), and Lithuania itself was the USSR.
            On that and decided.
            1. smile
              smile 27 December 2013 21: 10
              0
              abdrah
              The Lithuanians consisted of two large tribal groups - the Aukštaits and the Samogites, which were joined by the Yatvyag tribes. subsequently dissolved. Now Samogitians differ from aukstaits in a more rude language and. according to Lithuanian folklore - a nasty, tight-fisted character :)))). Real Samogitians live mainly in rural areas. which allows Lithuanians to tease them with "rednecks", but only behind the eyes. since you can get it in the eye ... :)))
              The literary Lithuanian language is closer to the original Aukstein. The Zhamaiti dialect differs solely in pronunciation ... there are practically no more differences.
              I’m saying this to say that saying that zhamayites are not Lithuanians is the same as saying that Vologda residents, not Russians, live in the Vologda region.

              Lithuanians NEVER said Vilnius, never. I still know the language. :)))
              Violnius was the ancient and first Lithuanian capital. Kaunas became their temporary capital after, in 20 or 21, the Zheligovsky division invaded Lithuania and captured the Vilnius Territory. The Polish government spread its arms and told the Lithuanians that Zheligovsky acted without the knowledge of the Polish government ... but it didn’t return what was captured ... :)))
              Together with the troops of General Zheligovsky, my grandmother’s father and brothers entered Vilna and, as a legionnaire, received lands taken from Lithuanians near Vilna — he became a siege. They gave in to the legionnaires because of the promise to give the legionnaires the seized land. One of the brothers was unlucky, he went to the land in Ukraine and was cut down by the Cossacks.
              In general, you are mistaken about the Lithuanians ... :)))
              1. Skiff-2
                Skiff-2 27 December 2013 23: 59
                +1
                Quote: smile
                Lithuanians NEVER said Vilnius, never. I still know the language. :)))

                But what about the Nova Vilnius region, on the outskirts of Vilnius? I even know a few phrases in Lithuanian, but I remember Vilnius - I studied there. People are good, politicians. Labas vakaras (good evening for our) everyone!
                1. smile
                  smile 28 December 2013 02: 31
                  0
                  Skiff-2
                  District "Nova Vilnia" - a warped or colloquial Polish expression - in Polish it sounds like "Nova Vilna", and at the end it is eaten and sounds like "a", in Lithuanian new - naujas.
                  More than two hundred thousand Poles still live in the Vilnius region, and there are many polonized names.
              2. RSA
                RSA 28 December 2013 22: 24
                +1
                Zdraistvuite, ja nekamentiruju vasi misli miliji rus, eta beznadiozna, vi mir vidite takim kakim vam nravica, no gospodin SMILE, ja ne v piervai statji vizu pravdivie viskazivanija a LT istoriji ziitziit ziitziit ujit ijit rijit ujit bila) i tax dalie, spasibo vam, xatia gdie ta pisali sto neliubte LT.
          3. Jipo
            Jipo 27 December 2013 19: 16
            0
            So they had one state, Poland merged and that’s all - Kirdyk, neither the Rzeczpospolita, nor the Russian-Lithuanian State. Now they’ve remembered, but I think they won’t succeed.
          4. duke
            duke 27 December 2013 19: 29
            +7
            smile
            if you read carefully, then I did not argue about those who are now in power and special services, but you still need to have long-term plans for building a policy - isn’t it? So we should at least try to turn the situation around. In the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, there were 2/3 Russians, and even more, respectively, the lands were also Russian (current Belarusian / Little Russian) Zhumyds in the mass were wild pagans and went in the shoes, the local princes themselves did not trust them and had protection from Karaites or Russians , for example, they took wives from the Principality of Tver, so their children were already Russian / or Belarusian.
            -I had a fellow student at the institute -Vitas, I was wild Natsik, and then we met by chance at an exhibition, I rushed to cuddle, my friend, what kind of a d.u.r.a.k. how we lived! And now instead of ours !! ! Russian, American blacks came, is that what we were waiting for? I asked forgiveness for the stupidity of youth, so that people change ...
            1. smile
              smile 27 December 2013 21: 13
              +1
              duke
              Well, here I agree with you ... completely.
              And the story you told is very revealing. I myself have met this. My grandmother’s neighbors went through a similar metamorphosis. :)))
        3. Theophanes
          Theophanes 3 January 2014 21: 00
          0
          I completely agree and plus to infinity!
      4. R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№
        R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ 27 December 2013 18: 09
        +1
        And here is how they will finally bend, then we will come. Not earlier. Enough to save on your head any trash that hates us. And they will bend. And soon.
      5. de klermon
        de klermon 27 December 2013 21: 27
        +3
        After such an advertisement, I don’t want to send tourist services there, but I’m indignant at the Foreign Ministry ...
        But there was such a historical joke:
        I remember that of blessed memory, Sovereign Emperor Nicholas I Pavlovich, having learned about the Parisian "arts" on the theme of Catherine II, asked to stop the riot of "contemporary art" and ... they say they stopped, having learned about the possible appearance of "a million spectators in gray overcoats" on the tsar's promise! ..
        Tell me, Baltic brothers, what if there will be tourists in vests and camouflage with “digital” colors ?!
    2. Airman
      Airman 27 December 2013 10: 20
      +8
      Quote: mirag2
      There are losses, yes.
      But there are acquisitions — the money that the Baltic States gave the EU they did not plunder, and spent as it should.

      Well, where do you see the acquisition? Every year I have to travel to Lithuania. And every year it’s getting worse. If the main roads are still maintained in good condition (Vilnius-Kaunas-Klaipeda), then there are less money on secondary roads compared to the Soviet period. I’m generally silent about the intra-house territories, even in Kaunas nothing has been repaired for 20 years. Prices for manufactured goods are comparable to Russian, products are slightly cheaper. Alcohol is very expensive.
      1. smile
        smile 27 December 2013 16: 02
        +4
        Airman
        You haven’t said that yet about utility bills, especially about heating - in this regard, it’s generally .... complete. My grandmother would never be able to keep an average kopeck piece in a German house - just in the winter a communal apartment is approximately equal to her pension - if it were not for me, mom and brother.
      2. abdrah
        abdrah 27 December 2013 18: 54
        0
        At the expense of the high cost of alcohol, I wouldn’t tell- the normal swill of the Mendeleev’s degree doesn’t matter, white or color is about 25 litas, 320 rubles, about. But it’s not bad from it in the morning, the quality of workmanship is present, it's not Ossetian crafts. they sell it until 21.00:22, roofing felts until 30 pm and then only in a cafe or bar, but you don’t need to be scared, the price is almost the same, maybe XNUMX rubles more, just buying a bottle at the bar, the bartender opens it and gives it without jam. You don’t give the cork to any drink here, or plug your finger and go wherever you want, sadists are simple !!
        PS On the question of infringement of rights in connection with the ban on the sale of alcohol to me in the evening they shyly shrug their hands, turn their eyes and mumble something in their own dialect, although they understand perfectly Russian, especially those who are older ..
        1. smile
          smile 27 December 2013 19: 27
          0
          abdrah
          I have in Klaipeda ... so to speak .... an acquaintance. It works, say, in an area similar to the one that the Ministry of Emergencies deals with (I don’t want to say for sure) and works part-time in a left-hand workshop manufacturing fake vodara, delivered straight to Lithuanian supermarkets ... in thousands of bottles ... for several years .. . :)))
    3. smile
      smile 27 December 2013 15: 45
      +7
      mirag2
      And there are losses, and downplayed by the author. who is clearly being cautious. And they stole the money, completely. even worse than ours - corruption at the bottom is now total, as we have in the nineties and is only getting worse ..
      As for Lithuania, during the years of independence they have lost a third of the population. by the way. it does not exceed 3 million, but is less than a million, here the author was slightly mistaken.
      As an illustration, I will cite excerpts from the Lithuanian press. So. in front of me is "Lithuanian Courier" No. 50, a weekly for 12-18 days. On the third page is the article "Fighting Migration". Are you thinking about fighting migrants there? No!
      Quotes:
      "The political council of the ruling coalition of Lithuania has come to the conclusion that a separate organization is needed to stop migration"
      Paksas, leader of the "Order and Justice" party - "The situation is thankless, we are leading in the bad sense of the word in the European Union in terms of the number of people leaving Lithuania"
      "According to the Department of Statistics, in 2008-2012 alone, 225 people emigrated from Lithuania to foreign countries ... at least 000 months -12 returned ... most of the emigrants are young people of working age"

      I’ll add from myself that according to the latest data, the number of Lithuanian citizens includes about 700 thousand migrant workers who, like the Tajiks, work part-time at the blackest jobs in the eurozone, trying to cling to some kind of cleaning lady there and stay by any means ...
      Article "Village demarches". quotes:
      Ozolas (a nationalist to the core and a pathological Russophobe) "compared the scale of emigration to flight. He emphasized that Stalinist exiles ... are a lesser evil for the state. Than the mass exodus of Lithuanians from an independent country" ... "50 years later, ethnic Lithuanians will be a national minority surrounded by Poles, Russians, Belarusians and Jews ... and immigrants from third countries, which Lithuania will have to accept as a cheap and expensive labor force ... "
      "In 2009, the Seimas decided to cut and freeze all pensions and social benefits by an average of 15 percent." For four years now, the pensions, then reduced by 15 percent, have not been increased in Lithuania. During this period, salaries were increased only for their politicians, which is written in the article "they started talking about compensation for pensions."
      The President of Lithuania criticized the decision of the deputies .... but the decision has not been canceled :)))
      Article "Meeting of the disaffected"
      Recently, mass demonstrations took place near the Lithuanian parliament under the slogans "The fish rots from the head", "I do not want benefits, I want a salary" "We want stability" ... What do you think. does some Lithuanian believe that the rallies will help? :)))

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      1. Chertkov Oleg
        Chertkov Oleg 27 December 2013 18: 35
        +5
        .. "in 50 years, ethnic Lithuanians will be a national minority surrounded by Poles, Russians, Belarusians and Jews ... and immigrants from third countries, which Lithuania will have to accept as a cheap and expensive labor force ..."

        You like?

        Frankly YES. Dear "sisters" were looking for "Happiness" in the "west" and now it is close. The future belongs to the state with strong cores (bowels) RUSSIA! And the territories of the "sisters" not in 50 years, but 20 will live only on EU loans and will be inhabited by pensioners. Russians need to be pulled out of there by any means, but with the oath of a citizen of Russia. Another option is also possible - an overwhelming increase in the Russian-speaking population with a gradual warming of relations between our countries and joining the CU. But this is closer to fantasy.
        1. de klermon
          de klermon 27 December 2013 21: 38
          +2
          Well, why is it close to science fiction ... It depends on how you look at it, especially in the context of the recent speeches of the Vice Speaker of the European Parliament on the role of "sisters" in the EU: these SS-members there seem to have worn out everyone with their hysteria and uselessness !!!
    4. RusSever
      RusSever 27 December 2013 16: 12
      0
      Tell me how? - destroyed industry and built office buildings, planted lawns and shrubs, washed the asphalt with soap? At the same time, having depressed regions and the outflow of the first titular population to work in the EU ??
    5. Bosk
      Bosk 27 December 2013 17: 51
      +2
      The only plus that is observed with the entry into the European Union is the difficulty in appropriating this Euro money, and quite comical situations are observed. Say, Europe allocates a certain amount for something there, and our goons, from not being able to stomp them for a whole year, press and pull ... and then in December they put the asphalt on the snow, for example, they just celebrated Catholic Christmas and then we get up on the second day and we fan out into the kitchens, baths, toilets, but there is no water ... and on the street the brigade turned off the excavation and excavated the foundation pit ... it turns out that the end of the year has come. and the money has not been spent and urgently needs to be invested in it otherwise Europe will allocate a smaller subsidy next year ... and most importantly, this money is not something to steal ... they cannot even be written off. In a word, it’s a complete sadness to the corruption officials, the only thing you can do with kickbacks is something so far ... here is such a strong control.
    6. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 29 December 2013 01: 34
      0
      Afro-Estonian, a bright representative of a large, friendly family of Afro-Baltic people!
    7. Theophanes
      Theophanes 3 January 2014 20: 51
      +1
      Yes they went ... Bastards and there are bastards. If their occupiers did not suit, then we will not arrange them. Let Eurozop further, betraying once betray and more than once. And then used to someone else’s trip to paradise !!! Stop robbing Russia and at the same time pour mud over it. Not any trade with them, nor any tourism. Traitors believe-loop a neck loop! Let them first equalize the rights of the Russian-speaking, and then we'll see.
  2. Vadiara
    Vadiara 27 December 2013 09: 45
    +31
    It’s a harsh reality in Lithuania. There is no work for young people, everyone from school is thinking where to dump ... And friends are crying that it will be good for us in the geyzon. You give reasons for them being wrong, they still call you a fool! Sadness ..
    1. Alexander Petrovich
      Alexander Petrovich 27 December 2013 11: 28
      +2
      here everything is exactly the same buddy. You also point your friends to the right path - and they look like a fool, although in reality it’s quite the opposite.
    2. Ruslan
      Ruslan 27 December 2013 14: 28
      +3
      similarly.
    3. densh
      densh 27 December 2013 16: 56
      +2
      We used to cry for NATO and the European Union, now for the Eurozone. What will we be crying about after? What is, directly, "dance with a rake" turns out. what
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 December 2013 20: 12
      +4
      Quote: Vadiara
      The harsh reality in Lithuania. There is no work for the young, everyone from school is thinking where to dump.

      You guys know Russian. And in general, it's nice to talk.
      In Klaipeda, I regularly ran into young people in the service sector (taxis, shops), who are neither in Russian nor in English ...
      1. Vadiara
        Vadiara 27 December 2013 20: 27
        +8
        For me, he is native (and I only realized this recently ...) Previously in Russia and the USSR I saw only evil, now I have revised my point of view ...
        P.S. I am 21 years old
        1. vadson
          vadson 28 December 2013 01: 23
          +1
          a question without malice, and how is a hangover? there is no desire for their Natsik to smudge the snot in the face with a boot?
  3. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 27 December 2013 09: 51
    +10
    from the Don.
    Let TREND, and we will wait, your mother! And crush them in PACE for nationalism!
  4. RBLip
    RBLip 27 December 2013 09: 53
    +23
    there and the road ... but as a tourist I will not go there. if only on the tank wink
    1. Canep
      Canep 27 December 2013 10: 23
      +16
      Quote: RBLip
      if only on the wink tank
      No need to pollute the Baltic states with tank exhausts. After 10-20 years, there will not even be border guards there, you just have to wait, and just come and take the abandoned countries.
      1. RBLip
        RBLip 27 December 2013 10: 27
        +7
        Quote: Canep
        No need to pollute the Baltic states with tank exhausts.

        if we don’t pollute, some pscheks will come. Again, the Fritz Turks have nowhere to go. so allocate a dozen tanks and our Baltic.
        1. densh
          densh 27 December 2013 17: 31
          0
          The European Union requires the Baltic countries to host migrants in exchange for financial assistance.
          1. family tree
            family tree 27 December 2013 22: 53
            +3
            Quote: densh
            The European Union requires the Baltic countries to host migrants in exchange for financial assistance.

            And this is a thought. Relocate the heels of divisions from Russia, a couple from Belarus, and let them allocate financial assistance, just to restore the bases will fit what
  5. The gentleman
    The gentleman 27 December 2013 09: 56
    +5
    they are already beginning to understand that games at democracy will not lead to good things. That the "Euro-uncles" will not help them. At times it seems that the EU is like a brand that you just need to relate to. it’s like being in a tusovka. yes, and I don’t care that you don’t decide anything there, the main thing is to be and hope that if they suddenly “run over”, then they will “say the word” for you. they will only say a word, not help by actions.
  6. morpogr
    morpogr 27 December 2013 10: 10
    +9
    A few more years of such geyropeyskoy prosperity and the Baltic States will become a nature reserve protected by the European Union. Without people and plants for the debts left in favor of Germany and France.
    1. smile
      smile 27 December 2013 16: 16
      +7
      morpogr
      Industry is no longer there, fishing is crushed by EU quotas, agriculture with the last gasp ... and no prospects. Generally.

      As an illustration, the statement of a Lithuanian (published in "Lithuanian Courier, No. 49), nickname Jonas:
      "It is a shame for what several dozen non-people have done to the country, supported by a crowd of thousands of singing and dancing extras with roses in their hands. This shaving flight has lasted for 23 years with sluggish attempts to rise higher. There is not enough fuel, the engines are losing power. Little is left, the earth is waiting The only thing that worries me is: what will be the landing of our space flight? Only the crew has parachutes, which does not care about passengers from the moment of takeoff. "

      I repeat. it was written by a Lithuanian.

      What is there to add? Earth is waiting for its sons! :))) Is it that parachuting at such a height - suicide - the earth is waiting for everyone! :)))
  7. Predator-74
    Predator-74 27 December 2013 10: 18
    +6
    The leaderships of the Baltic states have forgotten that "Every blacksmith of his own happiness!", Or their campaign was "not crawled". It is a pity for the Russians who are still there.
  8. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 27 December 2013 10: 20
    +3
    The cat left the kittens, let them breed as they want.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 27 December 2013 10: 36
      +4
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      The cat left the kittens, let them breed as they want.

      No ... The kittens themselves ran away to the dog, they thought that they would get more milk from the big bitch ...
  9. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 27 December 2013 10: 27
    +8
    My brother lives in Lithuania but he is a pensioner and his son has been working in a bakery for 3-4 years already in England, he receives much less local ones, but in Lithuania there is generally a prospect of 0000000 And n is foreseen, because they fool something they don’t think.
    1. smile
      smile 27 December 2013 16: 28
      +6
      Kolyan 2
      How did your brother like that in 2009, by the decision of the Sejm, they cut their pension and froze its level?
      By the way, the Lithuanians are thinking about something ... but for some reason, after leaving their state posts. I illustrate:
      The statement of Usackas, the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Lithuania, now the head of the EU Delegation to Russia, in an interview with the popular radio Zhinu Radiyas - Radio Novosti:
      Commenting on the statement of the Minister of Indels of Poland, Sikorski that the long-term drop in oil prices, which he dreamed of, will become a condition for the start of positive changes in Russia, Usackas said "You should not give lectures in Russia. Because the results are minimal when we start what to do in Russia and how it should reform. Russians are very smart people, they know what their well-being depends on. They do not depend on oil and gas at the moment. "
  10. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 27 December 2013 10: 28
    +1
    Well, all of them there tremble love
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  12. major071
    major071 27 December 2013 10: 30
    +38
    A little change A.S. Pushkin:
    Three sisters in the evening
    We got together in a madhouse
    And the girls argued
    The first sister came out:
    so I joined the EU
    in my country progress
    and I tried not in vain
    for Obama's king
    And the second to her in response:
    Everything is fine, no doubt.
    But I was the first to suck
    I tell you with (y) ki in color.
    The third silently turned
    Raised the hem, bent down
    King Obama, come in!
    I am yours, take it soon!
    Just started to tryndet
    A neighbor came through the door.
    Where is Obama, where is the king?
    Silence ... and everything in der ... laughing
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 27 December 2013 11: 04
      +7
      Quote: major071
      Silence ... and everything in der (me) me.

      "Every farm has a latrine!" laughing Where did they come from and returned wassat Thank you Vladimir, thank you very much!
      1. major071
        major071 27 December 2013 11: 09
        +8
        Sergei hi It's my pleasure! Thank you for reading this crap! laughing
        1. sergey72
          sergey72 27 December 2013 11: 22
          +3
          Quote: major071
          Thank you for reading this crap!
          laughing Well, why are you so, on the contrary, talented ... hi
  13. kirgudu
    kirgudu 27 December 2013 11: 04
    +3
    For some reason, independent ...
  14. HAM
    HAM 27 December 2013 11: 18
    +6
    In my opinion, too much attention on our part is made by three (I can’t pick up a word) very proud, very independent, huge such countries.
  15. makarov
    makarov 27 December 2013 11: 23
    +4
    What trouble are you? Probably, full-fledged men are not enough, and soon "pussy tourism" will be organized in the Baltic countries, and vouchers for males will be issued free of charge ....
  16. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 27 December 2013 11: 28
    +7
    СTatya is very informative and instructive for some who want to plunge into the "paradise" of the European Union. By the way, Europe is not at all worried about the demographic situation in the Baltics. They perform their functions as a "supplier" of cheap labor, well, okay. But the Balts need to think about and change their boorish position in relation to Russia. And everyone will benefit.
    1. Chertkov Oleg
      Chertkov Oleg 27 December 2013 18: 52
      0
      Until the last natsik of friendly "sisters" "land" the conversation will not work. Local Russians in the power of the Baltic states - so they themselves should want, say and do. But rather, the composition of Poland will "form"
  17. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 27 December 2013 11: 37
    +6
    Yeah, that’s how the balts are torn ...
  18. Lelek
    Lelek 27 December 2013 11: 44
    +8
    Exactly so many plumbers were added in Western Europe, where janitors and bandits from northern Africa and Arabia still grew. Hooray! fellow
  19. Sochi
    Sochi 27 December 2013 11: 49
    +9
    But under the USSR, after all, they were almost Europe, they were the standard ... the quality of their goods was always at their best. Radio technology was the best in the country, and everything else ... now there’s nothing, AT ALL THINGS ANYTHING! A cool result of overexcited conceit, and what plans you made ... Now they are the backyards of Europe, and the poor backyards.
    1. Chertkov Oleg
      Chertkov Oleg 27 December 2013 18: 53
      0
      There will still be roofing felts, they will become garbage.
  20. ReifA
    ReifA 27 December 2013 11: 58
    +2
    It is a pity for ordinary people who did not want this, but could not influence.
    1. RPD
      RPD 27 December 2013 12: 27
      +5
      strange fetish "common people". who is this? those who were the first to dump the union? those who gave rise to the decay? or those who have "non-citizens" in the countries?
    2. officer29
      officer29 27 December 2013 13: 00
      +7
      Unfortunately, they wanted to, could, and influenced. Remember the chain of several million people from Lithuania to Estonia! Well, then they were all "thrown", they were not even given citizenship, except for Lithuania ... This is me about the so-called "Russian-speaking".
      1. smile
        smile 27 December 2013 16: 44
        +4
        officer29
        Well, the title ones still embraced the sea - Russian-speakers would hardly be allowed to go there ... although I knew Russian-speakers who were terribly happy about the collapse of the Union and longed for the European delights of life ... yeah, they tasted ... you can say, got drunk ... among Since unemployment is unprecedented, imagine what it would be like for an occupier to get a job? :)))
  21. Namejs
    Namejs 27 December 2013 12: 08
    +5
    The author is right in one sense - the cuts are really big. But not everyone who went so darkly to earn money in other EU countries does not lose touch with their homes. Often the principle works - work in the EU house in Latvia. I know a few people who every six months go to earn extra money. And besides, the emigrants themselves admit that, if possible, they will return back to their homeland.

    And what about the emigrants of Russia? How many of those who entered the EU or are the US planning to return? How many of them are actively in touch with their homeland?
    1. officer29
      officer29 27 December 2013 13: 03
      0
      Khodorkovsky, Abramovich and others like them are not going to come back ...
      1. Chertkov Oleg
        Chertkov Oleg 27 December 2013 19: 13
        0
        Khodorkovsky, Abramovich and others like them are not going to come back ...

        Vultures are hard to mistake for humans. The corpse-eaters, no matter how you row them.
    2. smile
      smile 27 December 2013 16: 49
      +2
      Namejs
      Oh. oh well here we are talking ... here in Lithuania 700 thousand migrant workers ... with less than three million people ... you have not much better ... this is only in Tajikistan - if this is your ideal - a flag in your hands! :)) ) Keep up with the Tajiks. Work as cleaners, handymen, pickers of vegetables, flowers and beyond - this will greatly help the development of your independent Motherland :))) In Russia, the situation is radically different, do not expect ... :)))
      1. solleoval
        solleoval 29 December 2013 13: 41
        +1
        The Lithuanians are doing it right. Do you want them to work as cleaners in Russia? It’s better in the European Union. By the way, many Russians in Europe remove garbage and nothing.
        1. Namejs
          Namejs 30 December 2013 20: 00
          0
          So the question is, has Russia ever had a plan to revive migrants?
          I know only one case when compatriots stalled back Kaliningrad - they thought that 90 people would return but only 000 responded.
      2. Namejs
        Namejs 30 December 2013 19: 57
        0
        If we look at the history of migration, then millions of times went abroad from the same Germany and the Netherlands, and so what? Of course, this is a big problem now both for Latvia and for Lithuania and Estonia, but this still does not mean the end.

        Speaking about migration, one must take into account the masu of nuances. It’s not necessary to forget that the Baltic countries in the Schengen area and get an accurate picture of migration is rather difficult
    3. Chertkov Oleg
      Chertkov Oleg 27 December 2013 19: 09
      +1
      There (in the EU) there are enough of those who want to eat:
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 December 2013 20: 34
      +4
      Quote: Namejs
      And what about the emigrants of Russia? How many of those who entered the EU or are the US planning to return? How many of them are actively in touch with their homeland?

      Losers - they are losers everywhere, both in Russia and for a hedgehog rub wassat
      Leave naive people (let's call them fools), and ordinary adventurers (adventurers to their fifth point).
      Only highly demanded specialists of a high level can earn more "there" than in Russia. But there are very few of them.
      Nowadays, the time of global AWARENESS, highly paid niches practically did not remain anywhere.
      "Where he was born - there he fit ..."
      1. Namejs
        Namejs 30 December 2013 19: 46
        0
        Also a fact! Either very highly qualified professionals or any trash leave. Among those who left there are many ordinary bandits and a thief seeking happiness in more blogging countries.
  22. Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson 27 December 2013 12: 17
    +9
    Oh, Hospadi. I have a cousin now living in Latvia, I myself visited him recently. Nothing and ANYTHING to occupy there. Not a damn thing there. No people, no money.
    But I said this about Latvia and Lithuania. The Baltic brothers have everything bad. But Estonia is a sweetie. In Estonia ... Well, honestly, without embellishment, you can live-learn-work-from the belly. Good in Estonia.
    And Lithuania and Latvia - let them be, the labuses will soon be washed off from there, will become British-Irish. And there will be good Russian people, then you can think about the annexation, fortunately, no matter what, the farming is good there, and the old, still Soviet factories, although closed, are not destroyed. And the institutes there are super, the whole Soviet profession is still in place, I guarantee it.
    1. igordok
      igordok 27 December 2013 14: 35
      +1
      In Estonian Pärnu, treatment and recreation are more accessible and cheaper than in "native" Khilovo. recourse
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 27 December 2013 17: 45
        +1
        Oh, Lybo, be ashamed. The quality of roads in Estonia is incomparable, smooth, without potholes. Get out at least on the Moscow Ring Road, what do you get?
        If Estonians know how to control what is, then they know how. But our Immense Country, inventing inventions for the world, that something lives in poverty, do not you find? Can you tell us about Russian tranches abroad?
        Hooray-leavening patriotism is not needed. It is necessary to do something useful, and not argue, indulging in sophistry, completely lacking data
        1. VAS 84
          VAS 84 28 December 2013 00: 21
          +3
          The roads are slowly but surely beginning to put in order, just as if we are to be objective, then it is necessary to compare not only the roads but also the number of cars moving along them, probably more cars move along the Moscow Ring Road in 1 day than in the whole country (Estonia), the climate (temperature changes 48 hours from -12 to +3 in the Moscow region this year), and about the Estonian "sweets" you can get acquainted here:
          http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1463654.html
          http://www.inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20130215/205937141.html
          hi
          1. Alex_Popovson
            Alex_Popovson 29 December 2013 12: 45
            0
            "Two problems: fools and roads". They are eternal.
            climate (temperature changes in 48 hours from -12 to +3 in the Moscow region

            Oh, like I blame the weather. Although we have theorists and "dancers" who are hindered by everything
            Roads are slowly but surely starting to be put in order,

            Evidence, otherwise a lie and provocation
  23. Stinger
    Stinger 27 December 2013 12: 27
    +7
    Confused by surprise guys. They started to fuss when they all lost. The occupiers were building them, supplying them with resources, and supporting culture. And here we have to pay both for resources and for performing the sacrament of European integration, and the aggressor is on the verge of napping, he periodically refuses milk. Oh, and the symbolism was banned, and the veterans were transplanted, but a little sense. Even SS parades do not help. The EEG shows a strong desire to bite the eastern neighbor, but the consciousness that you can’t make a lot of it leads to stress, which in turn affects reproduction. Like it or not, the invaders are still to blame.
  24. MVV
    MVV 27 December 2013 12: 35
    +2
    After the Baltic states opened their port in the Baltic, they completely bent
  25. Nu daaaa ...
    Nu daaaa ... 27 December 2013 12: 35
    -8
    Smotrel glavu na statju i dumal-opjat gospodin Volodin. I tak ono i bylo ... hi kak govorjat- To see a straw in someone else's eye, not to notice a log in your own. Mezduprochem, vtšera besedoval s turistami iz Rossij (iz Pitera-v etom godu ih rekordno priehal na rozdestvo) - vse byli prijatno udivleny. Odno glavnoe fraza- "a nam v gazetah pišali (v televidinje govorili) .. au vas vse ne tak i namnogo luche. Tak chto gospsodin Volodin- gnite dalše na zdorovje. I jesli ja Vam ili komvetu-to drugomšu to eto ne potomu, chto nebylo, chem, chevo otvetšat, a potomu, chto na vašem saite pravila- jest naša mnenie i nepravilnoe mnenie. I neh ... i piz ... t ... Ne dadim vozmožnosti vragamoda .. . A tak, dlja nagljadnosti- tsifry VPP na cheloveka- Rossija, bogataja strana, kotoryi bogato neftju i gaza i prodaet iskopaemyh- na dušu grubo 21 500 dollarov, V Estonij tsifra 21 100. Teperzoist de mot everšnija estonij zivet ne huže, a daže luche srednestaticheskogo rossijanina. Uspeha teper minusovat, hotja dlja menja eto do lampochki.
    1. gosha1970
      gosha1970 27 December 2013 13: 01
      +3
      Admiral, can I knock on the Russian clave? but I want to read, so I'm afraid to break my eyes. You are on the Russian site.
    2. lab29
      lab29 27 December 2013 13: 39
      +3
      Is this such a thing?) Zapadlo in Cyrillic? Absolutely integrated? Good manners have not been canceled by anyone!
      1. smile
        smile 27 December 2013 17: 02
        +2
        lab29
        Come on, well, the guy doesn’t have Russian claudia ... what is he now to write a couple of comments a week to collect claudia?

        Although in general I do not agree with a friend. :)))
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 27 December 2013 17: 23
          +2
          Quote: smile
          Although in general I do not agree with a friend. :)))

          Welcome smile, we meet again in the "favorite" topic.
          They are waiting for Russians in Estonia ... And HOW to be with THIS:

          The problem of citizenship. Unlike Lithuania, where the so-called zero version of citizenship was adopted (a citizen's passport was received by everyone who at the time of proclamation of independence permanently resided in the republic) in Latvia and Estonia, in strict accordance with the doctrine of "non-recognition of the consequences of illegal occupation", citizenship is granted only to the descendants of citizens until 1940. Everyone who did not have an Estonian citizen among their ancestors was granted the offensive status of “non-citizen” and issued a corresponding gray passport (for full citizens it is blue).

          URL:http://go-url.ru/dkje

          PS:And I categorically disagree about "Klava", the gentleman could not be stingy and buy a gadget with a Russian layout.
          Tea is not a beggar, he lives in the European Union ...
          1. smile
            smile 27 December 2013 17: 49
            +1
            Corsair
            So the favorite topic is the Balts and the Poles :))) I really have a lot to do with them ... :)))
            Great comment.

            And about Klava - excellent under ... n! :))) Indeed, the population of the rapidly developing and bathing in the luxury of the Baltic States should probably have the means to purchase at least one more clave ... at least a chipper :)))
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 27 December 2013 17: 58
              +1
              Quote: smile
              Great comment.

              The theme is binding.
            2. alone
              alone 27 December 2013 20: 50
              +2
              wink why should he buy a keyboard. and they’ll put it into a mute so soon, he won’t be able to write. half of the forum minus it without even reading comments)))
              1. smile
                smile 27 December 2013 23: 32
                0
                alone
                Don’t be fooled - I climbed into his March comments and stupidly spat on it until one skull disappeared ... you would have seen what Russophobic comments I had to ply, I almost bit my hand ... :))) I just want him to visited the site and argued with ours. There must be a voice from that side ...
                And you do not know how many points you need to score to get to Azkaban?
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 28 December 2013 11: 39
                  +4
                  Quote: smile
                  Don’t be fooled - I crawled into his March comments and stupidly spat on it until one skull disappeared ... you would have seen what Russophobic comments I had to ply, I almost bit my hand ..

                  Smile, yes you are Santa Claus and mother Teresa "in one bottle" laughing
                  "... And according to his deeds will be rewarded"? wassat
                  1. smile
                    smile 28 December 2013 13: 36
                    +1
                    stalkerwalker
                    What ... do you hit on the neck? :)))
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 28 December 2013 13: 59
                      +4
                      Quote: smile
                      What ... do you hit on the neck? :)))

                      Nah ... laughing
                      I like such human impulses.
                      You just did what I, for example, could not do. Or didn’t guess.
                      Happy for you.
                      Good luck!
          2. solleoval
            solleoval 29 December 2013 13: 46
            -2
            I think the keyboard costs are superfluous. Soon, Russia will switch to the Latin alphabet. The Serbs have already crossed.
    3. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 27 December 2013 18: 43
      -3
      You seem to be a troll, but you don’t seem to be ...
  26. shinobi
    shinobi 27 December 2013 13: 10
    +6
    The Balts, during their independence, forgot about economic ties. And they were tied to Russia. Completely. Always. Even with the kings. They cut off their freedom of communication. The economy died right away. And now what? We don’t need you, Europe either.
    1. smile
      smile 27 December 2013 17: 08
      +1
      shinobi
      Right. But I will correct - not "even tied under the tsars" - under the tsars, and then under Soviet rule, they built everything they have. All. Up to the last stone house, built by us or by the Germans. For the whole country and at the expense of the resources of the whole country. They were engaged only in agriculture and fishing. moreover, we also provided this market - as they broke ties with us, so agriculture and fishing were dying - both in 20 and now ...
      What can I say, even if the builders, according to their censuses before 40, they had - in Latvia a little less than a thousand, in Estonia - a little more ... all .... even skilled workers - and then, Russian ... we they were educated only after the war ....
    2. solleoval
      solleoval 29 December 2013 13: 47
      -2
      And in Russia, the economy did not die without the Baltic?
  27. gosha1970
    gosha1970 27 December 2013 13: 24
    +4
    The Baltic region is a very close topic for me. He served in Latvia, in Liepaja. Awesome town. Awesome inhabitants, that Russians, that Latvians. Now there every summer I rest, my apartment. I dare to assure, better than Turkey and Egypt. I do not judge by the temperature of water and air. It's just that in Latvia everything is like a native, everyone speaks Russian (even the most rabid zemisargs), cleanliness + order + security, ecology (nothing to smoke) - all the way from Riga are storks. Without agitation: in the evenings, we gather in seaside pubs with Latvian friends, and we speak for life under local beer. Well, nobody wants to return to the Union. Yes, it’s hard to live, but still calmer. Those who do not have a job go to Europe. Agree, there are no construction crews (plumbers) from Russia in Russia. One can imagine how EU visas were canceled for Russia, how many people would explode to earn money — the provincial towns would be empty. Therefore, do not make fun of the Balts. That's basically it. Imagine how to attack the minuscule people now. Maybe I’ll immediately become an admiral with skulls. am And, one more thing: once in one social network I published my story about museums in Riga. I ask you to heed: In one quiet and comfortable European country there is a museum of occupation (especially about the USSR). Entrance is free, but there is a glass cube in the lobby where the museum keeper asks for donations. The cube is filled with paper dollars and euros. Moreover, good ratings. My friend and I were also asked to donate. Well, we donated: we threw two coins of 10 rubles each. They just landed on top of a bunch of bills. As the saying goes: did disgust, heart joy
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 December 2013 20: 42
      +3
      Quote: gosha1970
      Imagine how to attack the minuscule people now. Maybe I’ll immediately become an admiral with skulls.

      Why are you crying ahead of time? Was it recorded?
      Quote: gosha1970
      Agree, there are no builders (plumbers) from Latvia in Russia

      Thank you.
      We have enough of our Ravshanovs with Jamshuts .... wassat Even Moscow will not be accepted laughing
      1. gosha1970
        gosha1970 30 December 2013 09: 26
        0
        Why immediately fall into rudeness? And about- .. I understand this is your favorite topic?
    2. smile
      smile 27 December 2013 21: 38
      +2
      gosha1970
      In the Kaliningrad region there are a lot of Lithuanian builders, whole brigades hang out. Now they are becoming smaller - Ukrainians are successfully crowding them out. You just don't know the question.
      And plumbers from the Lithuanian guest workers arranged only the most successful. Mostly they work as general laborers, nannies, cleaners and pickers of vegetables and flowers ... and in other highly intellectual prestigious positions.

      700 thousand migrant workers in a little less than three millionth country ... in my opinion, there is no such scale of migrant workers even in Tajikistan, which Rakhmon successfully drives in the Middle Ages ...
  28. Semenov
    Semenov 27 December 2013 13: 58
    +2
    Small police states with a pronounced nationalist ideology, constantly stagnating economies and striving for total control of their citizens.
  29. mountain
    mountain 27 December 2013 15: 15
    +1
    Mark my words, the time will come and the sex of Europe, if not all, will be recorded, so that it would be in the borders with Russia.
  30. Strashila
    Strashila 27 December 2013 15: 30
    +4
    It’s just deja vu ... the Balts are always part of someone’s territories, the greatest dawn they had when they were part of the Russian Empire ... after the events of 1917, they set sail freely and in 1939 they were economic bankrupt, their complete collapse saved the entry into the USSR ... VOLUNTARY !!!.
    Well, now ... 20 years of free swimming ... and now bankrupt again ... some nationalistic ambitions, but you won’t be fed up with them ... well, they fed you for a while ... and threw using, even with fallen women they don’t do it ... they were so lowered.
  31. biznaw
    biznaw 27 December 2013 16: 26
    +5
    Quote: gosha1970
    Agree, there are no construction crews (plumbers) from Russia in Russia.

    Well, it’s for now, there are no plumbers, the trouble has begun. By the way, builders have been hanging out from Lithuania-Estonia for a long time since the 2000s, and lumberjacks also have a place to be, not as many as Ukrainians, but they are traveling.
    1. tegezen
      tegezen 27 December 2013 19: 41
      +1
      Yes. I rode like on a train with a team of Latvian builders, specialists in wooden houses.
  32. Leader
    Leader 27 December 2013 16: 27
    -3
    Let the Baltic states bend! So they need it.
    1. solleoval
      solleoval 29 December 2013 13: 49
      0
      You can not wish people bad - will come back.
  33. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 27 December 2013 17: 21
    0
    Everyone reaps his own way there - from and the Balts received their "fruit". How long will it take for them to place the right accents ??? But I doubt that modern Russia needs them - painfully troublesome people - I will say paraphrasing so - want to live like in Europe, and Russia will work for them !? Do not rain.
    1. solleoval
      solleoval 29 December 2013 13: 51
      0
      And for whom is Russia working?
  34. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 December 2013 17: 39
    +1
    amused himself with a lot of money good
    and Ests wait, you see, for our tourists to impregnate their women (apparently there are very few such (able to do entos) in Europe, and then, probably, the hunting season is open for them due to a misunderstanding of the main values ​​of democracy)
    1. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 27 December 2013 19: 36
      -4
      Andrey, do you have sperm toxicosis, judging by the comment? You can’t in any way be able to impregnate Russian girls? Are they so disgusting to you that you dream of Estonian?
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 27 December 2013 19: 44
        +1
        Quote: Alex_Popovson
        Andrey, do you have sperm toxicosis, judging by the comment?

        Well, why so? and in no way am I going to rest at the Baltic states. there are still enough places in my country where I was not request
        1. Alex_Popovson
          Alex_Popovson 27 December 2013 20: 42
          -2
          Well, nice; I asked every fireman lol
  35. Arkan
    Arkan 27 December 2013 18: 37
    +1
    If you choose between this trinity and Suomi, and from me that to them, that to Finland, is almost equal distance, then I choose Finland. In these three territorial formations, the uninhabited gentiles go in parades, but somehow it’s not with my hands, from my wallet, to sponsor all sorts of husks.
    1. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 27 December 2013 21: 16
      0
      But is it that Karelia and Mordovia are the relatives of Suomi? I’m not talking about the good Eesti
      1. yur
        yur 28 December 2013 02: 04
        +2
        But nothing that, for example, Mordovia lives with Russia for 800 years longer than modern Germany exists?
        1. Alex_Popovson
          Alex_Popovson 28 December 2013 09: 30
          -2
          Mordovian patriots do not forget and do not forgive
  36. wanderer
    wanderer 27 December 2013 19: 21
    +2
    Well, the Maleho geyropeyts will wait, and they will launch their occupiers there from the former colonies and so on.
    From Morocco, a ferry is organized to Tallinn.
  37. individual
    individual 27 December 2013 20: 44
    +1
    The United States and the West from the Baltic countries tried to make a showcase of Europe.
    But the sounds of the carcass turned into a mourning melody, and now the dream of a Tallinn inhabitant was to attract a Russian tourist to earn his daily bread.
    Western "cookies" ran out, but their kind was gone.
    "Fish without bread is an empty stomach."
  38. bilgesez
    bilgesez 27 December 2013 21: 06
    +3
    It may be enough to look for grains of sand in the eyes of others, is it time to remove it from your log.
  39. T-73
    T-73 27 December 2013 22: 33
    +3
    The entire "great Baltic troika" is becoming part of our history. But only. This is exactly what was expected from Ukraine in gayrope. Become history. Lead to the Western screech like the Balts screech. Which, however, squealed, it seems. The Balts are dying out and only they are ideally, by the way, assimilated by the Gay Europeans. Of course, we can talk about the territories of the Baltic States inhabited by Euro-Arabs, gayislamists, Afro-Estonians (in, damn it, an interesting temperament must be!), But why. It is quite understandable why the entire barefoot of Africa and God knows who is drawn to the gamerope. It is also clear that when the Gay Europeans fix it in the Bose, but eat (call on a working iPhone, relieve the need for working toilets, the list is long, imagine any of your needs that you do not get for free) hotsa. Where will they reach? Don't be fooled. Where it is better. AGAIN! A non-creative people becomes a parasite. Gayrope taught them this (already!). Jin is out of the bottle. Nearly. Bitch.! I am ready to starve, but to know what kind of crimes ANY bureaucrats should get, who stood across the interests of their country. That the stools will stand against the wall. I am satisfied with SUCH justice that will ensure the survival of our people. The key word is justice. When did we start to believe that we were "lazy, always drunk"? Have you forgotten your parents? There was no example? I don't intend to be next. Putin, put Yars, Poplar and Iskander. Military duty should become obligatory again, like the right after service - the possession of weapons. No need for tanks, of course. But times are changing. Outwardly, everything is not bad, but inside the country everything is much worse. You don’t have to believe in the evening tales of the bear - we don’t. We are already scientists. And without iPhones. Confused, emotions, but something like that
    1. yur
      yur 28 December 2013 02: 15
      0
      Thank you Alexey! Directly my thoughts and words. I crush them every day with my children, grandchildren will soon grow up, God willing, and I will have time to tell them the truth.
      1. T-73
        T-73 28 December 2013 14: 22
        0
        Yes, not at all, like. I'm not the only one who thinks so. It's another matter that we are truly disunited. At work, fishing, partying - many think so. But this does not concern us, because we do not have this (what "this" - they do not specify) in the North. Therefore, they climb into the Internet in order to count the likes of VKontakte one classbook. Churchill also said that non-participation in politics does not mean that politics does not participate in you. And what is interesting, you tell them this - yes, you are right, Lyokha, but let's not talk about that today. Come on guys. Why did he say about the service - those who served do not say so. Are we imbued with something, or what? Son in the 11th, history is held in such a way, according to the program, that they have not heard about the Entente and the Civil War. We got to 1907. Well, at least they know that they fought with the Japanese. But who is Admiral Makarov - zero. The short course says. Shortened? Bl.I! Until grade 11? Fine? He asked about Paul I - he himself asked to tell. There is someone to tell, though. But WHAT will he tell his children? Strength is needed to teach grandchildren as well
  40. Director
    Director 28 December 2013 01: 42
    +2
    I went a year ago to Estonia by car. Unusual cleanliness struck. Even in the woods by the road I did not see garbage. In the store I saw two middle-aged saleswomen of obviously Russian origin. I asked how they treat you Russians here. We don’t know how to treat the Russians, they answered. “But we Estonians are well treated.”
    1. T-73
      T-73 28 December 2013 15: 37
      0
      Modest, you see. And the fact that Estonians have a good attitude towards Estonians? - what's new? Or do Zambians treat each other badly? Or Russians? If you are a director, shoot the general panorama. I will probably surprise you, but I will say that in Russia there is a separate unusual purity. The trouble is that the cleanliness has become "unusual". But it is our own fault, we do not pull (who? Pigs? - and they are neat) through life. I'll tell you how I see. In the 80s in our city so that there was nao at the benches? There was no such thing. Who do we blame now? The youth? Themselves so brought up. Your indifference to everything. And now to such a gang without trauma or excessive courage (alone) to explain something is more expensive. And it's business! "the code must be respected", as they said in the movies
  41. ko88
    ko88 28 December 2013 12: 58
    0
    The Baltic states, like acne on the ass, are constantly worried.
  42. nnz226
    nnz226 28 December 2013 18: 00
    +1
    I correctly read somewhere the phrase: "In the USSR, the Baltics were the western face of the country, and in the EU it became the eastern ass of the European Union!" That's all....
  43. SERGEY 59
    SERGEY 59 28 December 2013 18: 24
    +1
    Quote: Leader
    Let the Baltic states bend! So they need it.

    AND WHAT IN THE BALTIC 1/3 RUSSIAN-US WHAT DO YOU ALSO BE FOLLOWED OFFERING? SERGEY59
  44. kelevra
    kelevra 29 December 2013 00: 25
    0
    Damn well and the movie, I already neighing! laughing But seriously, it’s interesting for me, in these countries, there are many of our compatriots, if they leave, for example, from the country, then where?
    1. solleoval
      solleoval 29 December 2013 13: 53
      -1
      Probably to Russia. Where there is prosperity.
  45. Elrig
    Elrig 29 December 2013 15: 08
    +1
    That is why the thinking part of Ukraine did not care about "Euromaidan", because there are many living examples of "European treatment". The Baltic countries are a very good example.
    Zadolbali already the government falls under stronger neighbors, we are here with our own hands and build a Europe for ourselves. The main thing is not to interfere.
  46. Jager
    Jager 3 January 2014 23: 28
    0
    Out of principle, I do not buy Baltic products. Sprats? Only Kaliningrad!))
  47. Oh no no no
    Oh no no no 4 January 2014 19: 38
    0
    We will return to you. Sure! We will only complete the rearmament program - and wait for the owners.
  48. newkamikaze
    newkamikaze 9 January 2014 17: 42
    0
    The article didn’t like, because it did not say a word about the economic crisis, and he very much intervened in demography. About a third of my friends builders during the crisis went to hobble to Finland and a considerable amount then remained there. And all these are people under 30, that is, the very lifters of demography.