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Asian Party: Battle of the Giants

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Right before our eyes, the global chessboard is being reformatted. The United States is leaving the Middle East for the Asia-Pacific region. The confrontation between the USA and China in the APR comes to the fore. Therefore, it cannot be said that Russia won in the Middle East and Syria in the 2013 year, in some respects it can be argued that the United States gave us the victory. The Americans leave the Middle East, leaving behind only strategic bases, reconnaissance and drone drones, abandoning the role of "older brother", which interferes in all matters.


However, they are drawing into this “zone of chaos” (recent events in the CARs, South Sudan, Iraq and Egypt confirm the continuation of the course towards fragmentation, the chaos of the region) Russia, Europe, China and Iran. In this case, there remain three centers of power - Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel. The calculation of the United States is simple and ingenious - all major players must get bogged down in the Middle East. The Islamic world resembles a splayed anthill and, apparently, it can not be calmed down without a lot of blood. The United States frees up resources and focuses on the Asia-Pacific region. Other players will be forced to waste time and resources.

Here it should be noted that the Saudis continue to head for the creation of an “Arab European Union”. So, on December 12, the six Gulf Cooperation Council member states (GCC) decided to create a unified command. Saudi Arabia was able to convince the allies of the need to reformat the military structure of the Council into a full-fledged body. The self-defense forces of the Arabian Peninsula were formed in 1982 year, and now there are about 30 thousand people. Now the strength of the combined forces should be 100 thousand people. Along with the decision to create a joint military command, the GCC decided to establish a unified military academy and a research institute to develop a military doctrine. Thus, the military component of the "Arab Union" continues to strengthen.

Saudi Arabia will continue to play a destabilizing role in the region, trying to crush competitors and crush hostile states. So, the ambassador of Saudi Arabia in Great Britain Mohammed bin Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud saidthat his country made an independent decision to arm the rebel forces in Syria, since they "cannot sit idle while thousands of children were killed by the Syrian regime." According to the Saudi ambassador, American diplomacy in the region threatens stability in the Middle East. “We believe that many Western political actions on Iran and Syria carry the risk of stability and security in the Middle East,” a Saudi politician wrote in the New York Times. “The West allows one regime to survive, and the other to continue its uranium enrichment program, with all the subsequent risks of increasing armaments in the region.”

This statement occurred after representatives of the Syrian opposition reported that representatives of the West privately informed them that peace talks would not lead to the removal of President Bashar al-Assad from power. At the summit of opposition patrons in London, it was reported that the main elements of the current political system of Syria would be preserved. Otherwise, the fall of the fall of the Assad regime will lead to chaos and the absorption of Syria by jihadists. Therefore, Saudi Arabia has decided to maintain its own position on the war in Syria and to organize a financial and military strategy to support the Syrian opposition.

Syria is no longer interested in the United States. Apparently, Washington is ready for any scenario in Syria: from the collapse to the complete victory of Assad. The main priority is relations with Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The Americans have already drawn Russia into the Middle East conflict, and now they will try to establish allied relations with Moscow against China, blackmailing Russia with a “yellow threat”. The outcome of the confrontation in the Asia-Pacific region will be built around the question, which side will take Russia - the United States or China.

Apparently, Barack Obama is ready to completely leave and from Afghanistan. A direct consequence of the withdrawal of coalition forces from Afghanistan in 2014 will be the threat of local military conflicts in Central Asia, the Taliban’s positions will strengthen, the flow of drugs and migrants will increase, and Islamists will become more active. In Tajikistan, a civil war may resume, with a sharp strengthening of the position of the Islamists. The border between Tajikistan and Afghanistan is almost open. The process of Islamization of Central (Middle) Asia will accelerate. And the strengthening of the position of the Islamists in this region will lead to the strengthening of the positions of the Arab monarchies, primarily Saudi Arabia. Moreover, due to natural causes (aging) in the Central Asian republics, a change of government will begin. Especially difficult situation in this regard in Uzbekistan. It should also be noted that Kyrgyzstan as a state did not take place, territorial and criminal clans rule there. Russia will have to pay more and more attention to Central Asia, in fact, to return there.

The need to return Russia to Central Asia is also understood in other countries. Thus, the chairman of the lower house of the National Assembly of Afghanistan, Abdul Rauf Ibrahimi, on behalf of the official Kabul addressed to the chairman of the State Duma Sergey Naryshkin and asked for help in ensuring security and put forward a proposal for the joint management of infrastructure projects. Kabul is asking for help in the development of the country's infrastructure, in the fight against drug trafficking and in the formation of the Afghan police.

American-Iranian detente was another fact that suggests that the United States leaves the Middle East for the Far. It is also necessary to note the energy security factor. The Middle East will soon not be the main source of energy for the West. Thanks to the shale revolution, in a few years the United States can not only fully provide itself with energy, but also become its exporter. Therefore, the economic importance of the Middle East for the United States has decreased dramatically. The strategic, economic and political role of the APR, on the contrary, is constantly increasing.

The US’s “Pacific reversal” is connected with the fact that in recent years, China, currently ranked second in the world in terms of GDP and first in terms of exports, has gradually transformed its economic power into political influence, shows its neighbors “who are master". Previously, China abstained from such steps. This change in Beijing’s behavior is caused by several factors. First, the Celestial Empire is forced to this by a change in the global political system. First, the bipolar structure of international relations collapsed, when everything depended on the two “watching” behind the planet - the USSR and the USA. Then the US attempt to build a unipolar world failed. There is a restructuring of the world political system to multipolarity, where there are several players of global significance and even more players at the regional level. In the Celestial Empire, they believe that the APR is their sphere of influence. The time of domination of the West and the USA in Asia is over.

Secondly, there is a rebirth of the party and political elite of the PRC into the national bourgeoisie. Socialism "with Chinese characteristics", in fact, is transformed into national socialism. The national bourgeoisie defends national interests and its own “pocket”. As social and economic problems worsen, national rhetoric will only increase.

Third, China’s economic growth has slowed significantly due to the global financial crisis and domestic problems. System defects of the “Chinese factory” threaten China with major problems. Beijing needs to form a domestic market, create its own sphere of influence. At the same time, social discontent must be channeled. External expansion is the most obvious way out.

Thus, the Chinese leadership is in a hurry to get political benefits from its current economic power. This is also manifested in the nomination of territorial claims to neighbors, first of all, to their historical enemy, Japan, and in the building up of military potential, especially naval and air. Accelerated military construction in China causes reasonable concern to the United States and its neighbors. Currently, the United States has a complete advantage over China, both in the space field and nuclear missile weapons, as well as in conventional weapons. But the situation is changing rapidly. Experts believe that if the Celestial Empire develops its space, rocket and military areas at the current pace, then after about 15 years, China will reach parity with the United States. In addition, it is necessary to take into account the situation in the United States. There is a scenario that the United States could suffer a geopolitical catastrophe: they will repeat the fate of the USSR. In this case, China can achieve superiority in the ATP much faster.

It turns out that the confrontation with China for the United States is a matter of life and death. If the United States can weaken or even destroy China into the "seven warring kingdoms," they will maintain their leadership in the region and the status of a great power. They will not be able to win over China - they will lose their leading position in another strategic region, and, possibly, will collapse under the weight of political and socio-economic problems.

It should be noted that this is not the first "Pacific reversal" States. For the first time America came to grips with the Pacific region at the end of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th centuries, when the USA was a rapidly developing industrial power and squeezed the old colonial empire, Spain, by breaking it in the 1898 war of the year. Then the Americans took the Philippines and Guam from the Spaniards. The United States began to push the UK. After World War II, when Japan was defeated, the Americans achieved complete economic, political, and military dominance in the APR.

The United States is stepping up ties with its old allies and those countries in the Asia-Pacific region that have problems in relations with China: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, and Australia. Standing apart is India, which has a long tradition of confrontation with China and is wary of the Chinese strategy to surround it with the help of neighboring states. The role of an individual player in the Asia-Pacific region is also played by Russia. So far, its role is small (in comparison with the USSR), but will gradually increase. On the one hand, Russia is in solidarity with China on most issues, but on the other hand, the excessive strengthening of Beijing’s position in the Asia-Pacific region - especially if the nationalist wing is held up in the Celestial Empire - may pose a threat to the Far East, Eastern Siberia of Russia and the development of Chinese expansion in Central Asia. Therefore, Russia must maneuver between the United States and China, simultaneously restoring its economic and military positions (including the power of the Pacific fleet) in the Far East.
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 25 December 2013 09: 35
    +12
    The Chinese and the Yankees tear each other's throats in the Asia-Pacific region, a dream .....!
    1. Guun
      Guun 25 December 2013 09: 42
      +7
      Hidden support to China, sticks to the wheels of the United States and huge profits from the sale of weapons to China's neighbors. It seems to go to this.
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 25 December 2013 11: 11
        +3
        Quote: Guun
        Hidden support to China, sticks to the wheels of the United States and huge profits from the sale of weapons to China's neighbors. It seems to go to this.

        Yes, my friend, you argue like a Jew, only the USA usually agitates such intrigues, the Chinese are also cunning ..
      2. Federal
        Federal 25 December 2013 12: 36
        .
        you don’t feel illusions you’re the first one to break the throat in turn, and the Yankees can go far beyond the ocean ....
        China is a problem, and very big for the Russian Federation, to definitely take the Yankees side
        1. 31231
          31231 25 December 2013 14: 59
          +4
          Well, take the US side. Run to the American embassy for help and forward the Chinese to knead on the Far East!
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 25 December 2013 15: 26
          +2
          Fuck you with two-s. There are no problems with China and the Chinese are not fools. Russia will not intervene in their showdown with the USA, but the USA will definitely intervene in the showdown with Russia. Moreover, with the aim of destroying both private traders of the confrontation. Do the Chinese need it?
        3. zvereok
          zvereok 25 December 2013 21: 20
          +1
          You have not read:
          may cause a threat to the Far East, Eastern Siberia of Russia and the development of Chinese expansion in Central Asia. Therefore, Russia must maneuver between the United States and China, simultaneously restoring its economic and military positions (including the power of the Pacific Fleet) in the Far East.


          Gold words. To be friends with everyone and at the same time develop your army and navy.
        4. Shur
          Shur 26 December 2013 02: 24
          0
          The "side and pose" of the Januses is rejected by the traditional values ​​of Russia. VVP clearly stated in the message that we are for "traditional values". The "side" is a matter of buffer territories and pseudo-states, while Russia is a world power with its own policy.
      3. alone
        alone 25 December 2013 20: 52
        0
        Quote: Guun
        Hidden support to China, sticks to the wheels of the United States and huge profits from the sale of weapons to China's neighbors.

        laughing and do you think China’s strengthening in the Asia-Pacific region is beneficial for Russia? You can’t just not intervene, let them bite. Well, Russia will definitely lose nothing from this
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    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 25 December 2013 09: 47
      +9
      Quote: Igor39
      The Chinese and the Yankees tear each other's throats in the Asia-Pacific region, a dream .....!

      Not yet, still at the stage of opening the peacock tail in front of each other, but they are unlikely to grapple seriously - their economies have grown together as Siamese twins over the last 20 years. Collapse one - collapse and the second. As if all this was not the next Great Performance in the script Big Games. For "divert eyes"so to speak. request
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 25 December 2013 10: 00
        +7
        Yankees are more dependent on China than China on the United States.
        1. Andrey57
          Andrey57 25 December 2013 14: 59
          +3
          They are like Siamese twins - they won’t fight, because they are economically connected so that they go to the bottom together, 40% of everything that is produced by China goes to mattress, and if the dollar collapses, for example, because of the outbreak of war, the Chinese economy will collapse in the same moment, since there is no domestic market for export-oriented products because of the low solvency of the population.
          1. wei
            wei 25 December 2013 20: 54
            +1
            I agree on the part
            I recalled the incident of April 1, 2001, a US Navy aircraft EP-3 ARIES II planted by the Chinese
            disagree
            the Chinese economy will collapse at the same time, since there is no sales market for export-oriented products within the country due to the low solvency of the population.

            production costs are from 5 to 15% of the price of production, reducing profits per unit of product, they compensate for it with volumes (now they do not do this because the enterprises belong to the same usa, for example, which will be nationalized in case of conflict)
          2. Shur
            Shur 26 December 2013 02: 37
            0
            In a pair of "Siamese twins", the strongest will survive during separation. Who knows who eats whom? I would not discount China so quickly. The world is changing so much that I would not be surprised if kataj becomes a tangerine over time. Here they are working on the domestic market. They are stocking up gold .. I think they are preparing a "Chinese box" for the pale-faced. And another moment "Regional structure of China's foreign trade.

            The largest foreign trade partners of the PRC in January-October 2013 were Asian countries, which accounted for $ 1 billion (+816,01%). 9,5 trillion Doll.

            Next come the countries of Europe - 599,11 billion dollars (+ 5,6%), North America - 468,25 billion dollars (+ 6,9%), Latin America - 215,63 billion dollars ( -1,1%), Africa - 172,83 billion dollars (+ 5,5%), Oceania - 124,56 billion dollars (+ 11,5%).

            Within the framework of international regional organizations, China's trade amounted to: with APEC countries 2 billion dollars (+ 182,87%), with the EU countries - 9,9 billion dollars (+ 456,09%), ASEAN - 0,5 billion dollars (+ 358,94%). ", So the Cathais are not alone in the United States.
          3. silver_roman
            silver_roman 26 December 2013 14: 34
            0
            Quote: Andrey57
            and if the dollar collapses, for example, due to the outbreak of war, the Chinese economy will collapse at the same moment

            not everything is so simple: it is China that is now pushing the dollar more. they need to push their yuan into the leaders among reserve currencies. The Chinese, as masters of copying, also copy the US system: get the financial sector and live on the percentage of using their currency around the world. and this is not a fantasy: some countries are already buying up the yuan in the medium term.
            Another thing is that if the yuan comes out as a reserve system, then it will undoubtedly grow, and this is not beneficial to China, because their consumer goods will cease to be so popular - cease to be so competitive. They are trying, it seems to me, to rebuild their market. More needs to be focused on domestic consumption in order to weaken dependence on international factors.
            The situation is really confusing. Too everything is interconnected.
            The only thing that can make significant changes in today's world order is the "emotional factor". Those. when some person from the top ten influential people of the planet according to Forbes will lose their nerves !!! IMHO by itself. I mean, guessing is not rewarding!
        2. bobba94
          bobba94 26 December 2013 16: 35
          +2
          Are the Yankees already buying aircraft carriers, stealth, abrams and drones in China? Is the Yankee broke printing presses and they can not urgently print just 1 trillion dollars if China refuses to place its reserves in US government bonds. Are there many of these, and when you start to analyze them all, the picture becomes sad for China.
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 25 December 2013 15: 28
        +1
        What are they doing with the Siamese twins? That's right, shared and usually only one survives with it.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 25 December 2013 17: 02
          +5
          If the PRC had not started a gradual transition in trade from the dollar to the yuan, then the United States would hardly have begun to escalate the situation in the APR, and then there is the SCO, into which the door was slammed by amers in front of the nose and into which all of Asia is striving. And it is so obvious that the PRC wants to have greater independence from its "Siamese twin." And it seems to me that the Chinese will no longer leave this course. We need to use this situation to our advantage. Trade in your currencies, and not depend on the dollar exchange rate. We have large common borders (both the Republic of Kazakhstan and the Russian Federation), but the United States does not. So the West will continue to "provoke" us to conflict and wage "information" wars in this direction. So, friends, we will observe all this in our media. But we are "boys" adults wink , we understand everything. hi
      3. zvereok
        zvereok 25 December 2013 21: 21
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        the next Big Performance in the script of the Big Game. For the "diversion", so to speak. request


        You mean that trains with coal were still leaving for Germany, despite ...
    4. duke
      duke 25 December 2013 17: 49
      +1
      the bottom line is that we can hold the perimeter, because this is our land, and we accept all the peoples of the country, those with us. but our people, first of all, must repeatedly grow by our Russian Christians, the rest, from the evil one ...
  2. svskor80
    svskor80 25 December 2013 09: 39
    +11
    The outcome of the confrontation in the Asia-Pacific region will be built around the question of which side Russia or the United States or China will take.

    It is high time for Russia to have its own strategy and its own interests in the Asia-Pacific region. Significant advantages can be gained from the U.S. link with China, but not through the frank support of one of the players. The result should be the weakening of both and the strengthening of Russia.
    1. Dimych from Vanino
      Dimych from Vanino 26 December 2013 06: 20
      0
      One American leader once said: the Russians are weak, we can destroy them 8 times, and they only 2 of us)))
  3. ObnaPur
    ObnaPur 25 December 2013 09: 45
    +3
    And we have no place left.
  4. S-200
    S-200 25 December 2013 10: 00
    +1

    even if the English Channel "dries up", England will still not "turn green", like Switzerland.
    They are "aliens" on our continent wink
  5. S-200
    S-200 25 December 2013 10: 05
    +3
    Vietnam to us, it seems ... in the vehicle asks?
  6. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 25 December 2013 10: 18
    +7
    from the Don.
    It’s not in vain that the GDP with Rogozin was bustling around, investing billion rubles in the development of Siberia and the Far East! The knot of interests of large countries is being transferred to the Asia-Pacific region.
    1. 31231
      31231 25 December 2013 15: 01
      +1
      World production has migrated and is migrating to the Asia-Pacific region. It is stupid in that region and we do not develop industry.
  7. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 25 December 2013 10: 20
    +8
    The Americans are unlikely to give up their influence in Asia to China just like that, even if they are economically interdependent, the Americans will never recognize anyone as equal partners, and the Japanese will definitely not see how they are divided as pie, the Japanese are not like that, they are not Ukraine, of course, if the Chinese and the Americans exterminated each other, then there would be no more one country that could interfere with the path of Mother Russia to world domination (devilish laughter) ... But seriously, then mutual relaxation The United States and China is beneficial to almost everyone, well, except for the United States and China. Yes, and the experience of "maneuvering" an initially weaker country between giants, in history, is enough, to take the same Venetian Republic, which has managed to exist between such powerful countries as France, the Holy The Roman Empire, Spain, while Russia now (thanks to Mikhail Gorbachev and the passive people of the USSR) cannot be compared either with the military or from the economic point of view, or with the United States or China. Even purely in number, there are more of them. You can consider Putler an "influential person" or whoever he wants to be, the position of Russia between the United States and China will not change from this, but if he at least drove the iPhone operator and hacked Gorbachev with an ice pick, he brought if the population of Russia had at least a little bit of moral satisfaction, because the amnesty and release of Khodorkovsky, who immediately fled to Germany, is absolutely incomprehensible to me.
  8. Leshka
    Leshka 25 December 2013 10: 43
    0
    what to guess! time will pass see
  9. 3935333
    3935333 25 December 2013 10: 43
    +4
    China builds ships ... China directly shows its teeth! But China needs training before the big war, so to speak, it is necessary to break in the troops and check all the components of the PLA. Who will be the victim? ... -Kaiju! The script seems ready to me, everyone is slowly preparing for the Great War.
    1. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 25 December 2013 13: 33
      +2
      Oh, not funny at all. China can only send "last warnings". There is no doubt that the Oziyat discipline and quantity play a certain role ... BUT, as practice has shown, the Middle Empire was pounded by all and sundry. The most recent example is when Vietnam, ruined by the US Vietnam campaign, cheerfully smeared the Chinese (fresh, and at that time well prepared).
      And here, if China buzzes, uncle Liao’s crafts are leveled by the real technological superiority of Sasha, South Korea and Japan, with the full support of the first.
      True, we have the DPRK ... It is not known how these comrades will behave, and how China will behave in relation to them. And these are torn between America’s handouts on the one hand and Juche’s moods on the other
      1. 31231
        31231 25 December 2013 15: 03
        +2
        I agree with you. The best thing for the Chinese is to simply troll the US and its allies in the Asia-Pacific region. It’s easier for them to economically lower the US than by war.
  10. washi
    washi 25 December 2013 11: 09
    +4
    the excessive strengthening of Beijing’s position in the Asia-Pacific region - especially if the nationalist wing takes up the Celestial Empire - may pose a threat to the Russian Far East and Eastern Siberia
    Zadolbali China scare. In Central Asia, he may climb (although the Chinese have enough of their Muslims), but not to us.
    But this is more serious:
    Saudi Arabia will continue to play in the region the role of a destabilizing factor, trying to crush competitors and fragment hostile states.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 25 December 2013 11: 48
      0
      Quote: Vasya
      Saudi Arabia will continue to play ...

      ... And sooner or later, play out laughing Both the Americans and the Chinese immediately bent her into a pose, because she had time to spoil everyone.
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 25 December 2013 13: 39
        +3
        Vasya and A_Nas_Rat. YOU BOTH completely forget that Saudi Arabia is an exporter of oil so needed by the Chinese (like Iran, by the way, but that's another story). Remember at least one raging about the genocide of the Uighurs and their oppression in China !!! None of the abreks will NEVER be outraged by the position of fellow believers in China while they buy hydrocarbons from him
        1. Shur
          Shur 26 December 2013 02: 46
          0
          Resentment costs money laughing
        2. Onotollah
          Onotollah 26 December 2013 07: 41
          0
          Quote: Alex_Popovson
          Saudi Arabia - exporter

          And when the Saudis are bent into a pose, as quite rightly noted above, oil can simply be borrowed.
          "Is there oil? And if I find it?"
  11. major071
    major071 25 December 2013 11: 35
    +6
    China currently does not grapple with the United States, as long as it does not have enough forces for an open confrontation, but in the quiet they will kick the United States, at least by pressure on Japan. In this situation, Russia does not need to disperse its forces, trying to catch up everywhere everywhere, and consistently and correctly pursue its policy in the Middle East, but at the same time not to forget to strengthen in the Far. soldier
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah 26 December 2013 07: 52
      0
      Quote: major071
      China does not currently grapple with the US

      If something happens, China will fight from the continent, and Amers will have to drive troops and equipment over water and air. Moreover, a lot, given the size of the PLA.
      So the Americans will directly engage in this adventure only if they are extremely hot. Most likely they will be jackal in the corners, pit and kindle as usual. And the first candidate for pitting is just Russia. So you need to keep your eyes open (in relation to China), and gunpowder dry (in relation to the USA).
  12. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 25 December 2013 11: 36
    +2
    so why be so wise? There is a plan to divide Russia between China and Amers. And this is a long-resolved issue. And they’re not intermingled with each other
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 25 December 2013 12: 59
      +2
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      so why be so wise? There is a plan to divide Russia between China and Amers. And this is a long-resolved issue. And they’re not intermingled with each other


      Did Albats whisper in your ear?
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 25 December 2013 13: 43
        +1
        Indeed, Albats said otherwise. But, Ivan Petrovich, I will tell you that America and China will never divide Russia, because if the Chinese get oil / gas / fat / meat / egg, he will immediately fight America and its satellites. Russia - as always balances all.
        1. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 25 December 2013 13: 51
          -2
          China, by this unspoken agreement, is given the adjacent territory, including Mongolia and Kazakhstan, and to the north where the main resources are to amers.
          this was well explained in the "military secret" program
          1. Guun
            Guun 25 December 2013 14: 33
            +1
            Quote: Ivan Petrovich
            "a military secret"

            I would not take this program seriously, and indeed you don’t need to look at such a crap.
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      2. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 25 December 2013 13: 49
        -1
        Ms. Albac has a completely different opinion, just lie under America. Learn the materiel.
        1. Alex_Popovson
          Alex_Popovson 25 December 2013 14: 32
          +1
          A military secret? Materiel? You can become thinner, otherwise trolling is very thick, it’s no good!
          1. Ivan Petrovich
            Ivan Petrovich 25 December 2013 15: 22
            -1
            I can say the same about other people. Paper (or Monique) will stand ...
            1. Alex_Popovson
              Alex_Popovson 25 December 2013 19: 30
              0
              And what did you want to say? That after listening to pseudo-crazy fables, you can dominate others?
              1. alone
                alone 25 December 2013 20: 57
                +1
                laughing The Chinese and Americans will be at war with each other !! Zadornov threw a pen on the floor and told him not to write anything else)) you think there are some crazy people sitting there. There will be no major war. The countries of the region will simply fool each other. The war will be economic. Maximum local 1-2 day armed skirmishes. Do not forget that the parties have nuclear potential. Of course, there are one and a half billion Chinese, but this does not mean that the Chinese do not want to live!
    2. Onotollah
      Onotollah 26 December 2013 07: 54
      +1
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      there is a plan to divide Russia between China and Amers

      Pour me a little of such a plan. It hurts he will pick up.
  13. General Ermolov
    General Ermolov 25 December 2013 13: 46
    +1
    I do not see problems with China
    The Middle East and the Caucasus, these are the problems for centuries
  14. Ddhal
    Ddhal 25 December 2013 14: 36
    +1
    Quote: Leshka
    what to guess! time will pass see

    Here it is - a quote of the day in modern Russian (excuse me, Lyosha, if it "passes" it was written for sarcastic purposes).
    Too lazy to think occupied the brain with consumption and panism - we can’t do anything with either our hands or our heads, but our ambitions are higher than the clouds .. By the way, this also applies to me fully.
    The fact that some people know how to calculate the future is not our merit. It's time to objectively assess your abilities and think carefully about the strategy, so as not to find yourself in a situation "from. For - all the partners again greatly upset us" in the future ... Shapkozidny attitude never led anyone to anything good.
    The article is interesting, with a touch of sensation, the only shale gas is superfluous in this article. In a few years, toilet bunches will be more cost-effective to collect than to produce shale gas. laughing
  15. Motors1991
    Motors1991 25 December 2013 15: 58
    +1
    I already wrote once, in a future conflict between China and the United States, we will be sitting in the same trenches with the Americans and not because we love them very much, but because our skin is more expensive. If the Chinese break the United States, then who can stop them ? It has always been so, great countries united against the growing hegemonic state, ready to take over the whole world. At different times it was France, Russia, Germany, now China. In the light of these events, the West will merge Ukraine, along with its Maidan, Russia. ally, since the weakest place in the Russian Federation is the small population on such a vast territory.
    1. 3935333
      3935333 25 December 2013 16: 07
      +3
      Perhaps you are right! But the West does not need to strengthen Russia and, in general, Russians (it’s an ahtung) Well, the West knows not just one example of who knows how to fight! They are cautious of the Chinese, but they understand and see that even with beautiful tanks and a bunch of ships and a multimillion army, let the PLA learn to fight for real, especially in foreign territory !! ! Yapi will tear Chinese ambitions into multimillion-dollar pieces of meat! Yapi, and so already like a mad dog (hungry and poisoned) in anger, runs out of poisonous saliva!
      1. Motors1991
        Motors1991 25 December 2013 21: 10
        +1
        20 years ago, all of China consumed less electricity than the United States spent on air conditioning. Since then, the situation has changed dramatically and the PRC has become the largest consumer of resources, all without exception: water, oil, gas, metal, etc. These resources are needed from picking up someone or denying access to them. Who is the most voracious in us? The USA and Europe, they will first of all suffer from the expansion of China, and given that they also lose their industrial potential, the victory of China is a matter of time. And what should do America with Europe? Answer: to organize a common front against the PRC, involving everyone in it, regardless of skin color, religion and other troubles. Churchill once said: If it were possible to conclude an alliance against Hitler with Satan himself, then I found there would be reasons to convince the House of Commons. Unfortunately, the conflict is brewing, and Russia is too big a country to stay away.
  16. VADEL
    VADEL 25 December 2013 16: 34
    +1
    It turns out that the confrontation with China for the United States is a matter of life and death.

    And the task is to push China and Russia between their foreheads by any methods, weaken both of them, finish off the winner. JACKALS.
  17. ko88
    ko88 25 December 2013 17: 10
    +1
    China is growing stronger no doubt, it is expanding spheres of influence around the world, arrogant ambitions are already appearing, but for example: if a large-scale military conflict occurs, China will lose, because the Chinese are a merchant people, agrarian, but not so much warlike, it’s one thing to hold beautiful parades, another thing fight.
  18. zemlyak
    zemlyak 25 December 2013 17: 39
    +1
    Russian bear, Chinese dragon and gorilla .... I immediately recall the fables of Grandfather Krylov
    1. Shur
      Shur 26 December 2013 02: 52
      0
      Gorilla gay :) That's right.

  19. hitech
    hitech 25 December 2013 19: 17
    +1
    Not sure about "shale gas" as a panacea for the US. It is expensive, and expensive, they will not go anywhere from Arab oil. Another affair. We need to continue to strengthen our positions in the Middle East.
  20. I think so
    I think so 25 December 2013 19: 37
    +1
    Some kind of nonsense in the article and nothing else ... there is no point in even listing ... at least a pearl, "there is a degeneration of the party-political elite of the PRC into the national bourgeoisie." More delirium and not come up with ... the author does not AT ALL know what is happening in China, or carries out an order to de-discriminate China in the eyes of the Russian people ...
  21. individual
    individual 25 December 2013 20: 29
    0
    “After World War II, when Japan was defeated, the Americans achieved complete economic, political and military dominance in the APR.

    Now comes the redistribution of dominance.
    I recall a parable:
    "When the Mongols invaded China, they had to assimilate into the Chinese."
  22. corn
    corn 25 December 2013 21: 27
    0
    Maybe now is the time for Russia (while they, the USA and China, will understand from the great intellect and power in the oceans) will take care of what it, Russia, has been doing pretty well for many centuries: to slowly grow into neighbors. As it was before the 19th century: then Siberia, then the Baltic states, then Ukraine, then Crimea, then the Caucasus, then the Central Asian khanates: where is the whip, where is the carrot; and all over Mother Earth, the compatriots took a small fraction (or big) of their people there (they didn’t give naughty people not to theirs, not to local people and they defended their limits well). They were drawn to the Anglo-Saxons in the 20th century, now the world revolution, now for people who didn’t really want to live under Russia, sometimes for the cannibals to help socialism build at the expense of their people.
    Only public policy is not the business of one generation, and perhaps only grandchildren will see the results. And so in Russia over the 20th century, the elite has been leveled twice: first, the tsarist (with machine guns), then the Soviet (with money).
  23. pr 627
    pr 627 25 December 2013 22: 21
    0
    We have a difficult, very difficult task to climb a Christmas tree and not rip our ass. We must try.
  24. Megatron
    Megatron 26 December 2013 00: 43
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    It is necessary not directly to support any of them, but to supply resources and weapons.
  25. Evkur
    Evkur 26 December 2013 00: 55
    0
    But who will cut off the hand that feeds him ?! Not a single sane !!! Therefore, it’s easier to take resources, territory, population from others ... History does not teach us anything - the vat forum will be smarter !!!
  26. motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 26 December 2013 01: 54
    +1
    In essence, there seems to be nothing to add to the article, but "I am tormented by vague doubts," well, something suggests that what (I wonder how to say this in English?) We see and hear is not quite right. Is America leaving the Middle East? But what about Israel? China, war, what else is there, ahh, what trench we are in, what should Russia do, again there is no strategy, well, etc., etc. The feeling of Maidanism, i.e. external factors are evident, and deep processes are not revealed. Without knowing the essence (or not assuming), it is not possible to draw correct conclusions. Well, in essence, I, like the author of the article, do not know either, but I will try to guess. I think the main reason is money, i.e. in the so-called accounting currency. It has already been written on the site about the attempts (intentions) of different states to leave the dollar zone. It was also written about the already rotten Fed. If we assume the withdrawal of Russia and China from dollar settlements, well, at least among themselves, then the United States will face a very big problem, but if, and with the whole world, they will settle through their currency, then the United States will simply go bankrupt. This is where the reason for their reversal to the APR lies. Having quarreled between Russia and China, you can probably postpone the creation of a new settlement currency and drink a little more blood from the whole world. If my assumptions are somehow correct, then it is clear who Russia should be with. And if you dig deeper, then those forces, people, I don't know what to call, let there be forces that bent the world under the dollar, as it seems to me, have long understood that the project has exhausted itself and probably America will be merged, preparing a new world monetary center. Apart from Russia, I personally don't see anyone for this role. The soil is ready, the resources are there, it remains to be done. Of course, I don’t know how, but they’ll come up with it. The sad thing about this is that just as the dollar did not belong to the American people and government, so this currency will not belong to Russia, it (Russia) will only have a duty to protect and distribute it throughout the world. Therefore, it is desirable to bind China the same, and then things will go. It is clear that the American society will react negatively to this, but these forces do not care about any society and state, the main thing is to keep finances in their hands. I think the process is lengthy, but inevitable. And all the minor manifestations, in the form of Turanians, Caliphates, Syrians and Afghans, etc., will be in the form of markers by which it is possible to track, and for these forces, and correct the process. In general, "fate plays a man, and man plays the trumpet."
  27. Maaslo Sallonen
    Maaslo Sallonen 26 December 2013 17: 12
    0
    Recently, there was information about secret negotiations between Iran and the United States. In response, President Putin met with Netanyahu and talked about Israel's security and Russia's support. So Iran is "still that ally" and does not deserve complete trust. Will he become a weak link in the confrontation with the United States? After all, finding this "weak link" will be an effective and, most importantly, a cheap solution for America in pursuing its Middle East policy. There is also a question for the author about shale gas in the United States. After all, they say that companies are selling their oil shale assets and no development is expected?