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And what about corporate parties at public expense?

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After at a meeting with members of the All-Russian Popular Front, Vladimir Putin expressed his opinion about the so-called corporate parties at the expense of the budget of state-owned companies, the administration of many state-owned firms decided not to anger the president and re-format the theme of the orders of famous artists covered with lush tables.


It is worth recalling that Putin, responding to a question about the more than strange spending of state-owned company employees on corporate affairs from budget revenues, said the following:

How much they want, so much even spend. Only not from the budget, but from the pockets of employees.


At the same time, the president spoke in the spirit that the practice of “corporate gatherings” existed even in Soviet times, but they were only held at their own expense.

This situation was discussed in connection with the fact that it became aware of the desire of the management of Russian Railways to arrange corporate parties for themselves, for a total of 50 million rubles. The question for Putin was precisely this.



So, after assessing the situation of Putin, many state-owned companies decided to remove the lines dedicated to spending money on the very festive corporate parties from the official websites and the government procurement website. As they say, removed - good! So, they listened to the voice of the national and presidential "anger." But they removed one thing, but refused — quite another ... So, a short time after the speech of the head of state, it turned out that the desire to spend money on holidays exclusively from the budget of employees of state-owned companies did not disappear. It simply acquired a more “politically correct” form, so as not to cause special complaints from the public, and, what is much more important for them, from representatives of the highest authorities. What kind of politically correct form is this? To answer this question, it is enough to “walk” along Government Procurement Portal.

Literally a few days after touching on the topic of corporate events, within the framework of a conversation between members of the ONF and Vladimir Putin, a number of companies made changes in the pre-holiday spending card on the above-mentioned website. For greater clarity, we can give the following examples.

For example, on the procurement site posted an application number 31300629189 company "Gazprom mining Nadym in the amount of 26 million rubles. With this money in the company are going to buy Christmas gifts for children. The application states that goods such as toys, books and stationery will be bought ...

Application No. 31300712800. According to this application "Sberbank of Russia" (the controlling stake is owned by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation) “asks” that the 2 million rubles be spent assembling Christmas decorations in a bank building on Butlerov Street in Kazan. Of course, Christmas decorations are great, but if you consider that the building is decorated not with “rain” and tinsel, which the staff brought from home or bought in a store, the waste of money looks, to put it mildly, dubious. Who is able to control whether these decorations will be “mounted” in Kazan on 2 million? More likely answer: no one!

But much more interesting is the application from Sberbank under the number number XXUMX. It should be immediately noted that the application was published at the end of November (before the conversation of the ONF members with Vladimir Putin), and therefore the “Sberbankers” apparently did not have time to navigate. We did not have time, and therefore in this very application it appears, you will not believe it, but a “corporate event”. Here is the full text of the application: “On holding an open competition for the choice of the company organizing the corporate event of the Moscow Bank“ Children's New Year Event ”. Of course, children's ... Nobody doubts ... Organizers for organizing such a "matinee" will be worth as much as 31300684244 million rubles! Following the logic of such a pricing policy, we can assume that the children of employees of this very bank should wear at least “children’s corporate parties” in at least gold embroidered clothes with sable inserts, and dishes from red caviar stuffed with caviar should be on the tables ...

Applications №№0194200001013000023 and 019420000101300024. Immediately two applications from Ministry of Agriculture of the Chechen Republic. The main Chechen agrarians decided on a total of 500 thousand rubles (which is remarkable, from the republican budget) to carry out the New Year decoration of the building of the Ministry of Agriculture in the city of Grozny ... Even more modest than a bank in Kazan ... It turns out that the garlands on the building of the Chechen Ministry of Agriculture, for the Chechen The Ministry of Agriculture is more important today than work to restore Chechnya’s own agriculture. Apparently, winter ... and other heads are busy ...

In general, this list of state-owned companies and government agencies that are owners at a celebration of life goes on and on. And this list, as well as the procurement site itself, is a suitable material for the work of law enforcement officers. As they say, there is no need to invent anything - the gentlemen themselves call to pay attention to where they are going to put the budget funds, and the total amount of spending is impressive ... But so far this information of our law enforcement officers, judging by everything, is of little interest ... Why? ..
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  1. treskoed
    treskoed 12 December 2013 08: 08
    23
    Yes, the shaking of the air is all, and not any struggle with non-core costs! Well, they will issue New Year's bonuses, incentives for this amount to employees and collect them for corporate events! In any case, the budget will pay! Why make a fuss?
    1. A.YARY
      A.YARY 12 December 2013 09: 34
      +5
      Why fence a garden ?!


      Yes, to "powder" your snout, shiny grease!
      Where is Comrade Bad is his diocese?
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 12 December 2013 10: 02
        +3
        Quote: A.YARY
        Where is Comrade Bad is his diocese?

        He has problems with dissertation, comrade it turns out to be a plagiarist, how will he fight corruption?
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        2. Cherdak
          Cherdak 12 December 2013 20: 19
          +1
          Quote: Standard Oil
          comrade turns out to be a plagiarist
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    2. APES
      APES 12 December 2013 11: 34
      +4
      actually a joke in another:

      They need to master the allocated (I emphasize) funds according to the budget for the current year, and then next year the amount of financing can be reduced.

      In many gos. companies - there is a sickly New Year's Eve 13 salary.

      for example, in the same Almaz-Antey, with a salary of 50 TR a person can receive a bonus according to the results of the year in the area of ​​200-300 tr - and this is done not for some merit, but for the same reason - you need to master the allocated budget for the current year.

      accordingly the question: how is this budget formed and approved?
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    4. yurii p
      yurii p 12 December 2013 12: 20
      +4
      everything is done according to the principle "the dog barks the caravan goes" .... even though this is a high-ranking dog.
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 13 December 2013 05: 56
        +2
        Quote: yurii p
        everything is done according to the principle "the dog barks the caravan is coming"

        No, here is another principle - "And Vaska listens, but eats!"
    5. alone
      alone 12 December 2013 19: 24
      +2
      Quote: treskoed
      Yes, the shaking of the air is all, and not any struggle with non-core costs! Well, they will issue New Year's bonuses, incentives for this amount to employees and collect them for corporate events! In any case, the budget will pay! Why make a fuss?


      If I, as a manager, decided to cut the budget through non-core incomes, then I’ll find dozens of ways to do it in a legal way!
    6. Cherdak
      Cherdak 12 December 2013 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: treskoed
      Why fence a garden ?!
    7. ty60
      ty60 12 December 2013 22: 19
      0
      the main tricksters in double size. Awarding the uninvolved and punishing the innocent
    8. Combitor
      Combitor 13 December 2013 16: 37
      0
      No matter how hard the Kremlin helmsman tries to make a good face with a bad game, all his body movements and verbiage are good only for speaking in front of the next "front-line soldiers". The Putin regime has many distinctive features that are unique to it. And the fact that officials have bred incredibly over the course of 13 years and are gorgeous and fattening at our expense, regardless of any moral norms - can also be recorded as an "asset" of Putin's rule. And under what article to write off the costs of corporate parties - this is not a problem even for a graduate of accounting courses. And even more so for the aces-accountants of state-owned companies. The main thing is that the management of these companies understood the direction of the Kremlin leader's thoughts on time and correctly.
  2. 505506
    505506 12 December 2013 08: 10
    +3
    That they were given is true, but why did they not "notice" the leakage of budget funds before. And now they are trying to get around. But because this is not considered a crime, but was done so as not to anger the priest. The budget is like a feeding trough from where you can take it uncontrollably.
    1. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 12 December 2013 08: 26
      11
      Will now starve, poor things. To be interrupted from black bread to black caviar! am
      1. ty60
        ty60 12 December 2013 22: 23
        0
        now you have to save every million!
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 December 2013 09: 25
      +4
      Quote: ....
      At the same time, the president spoke in the spirit that the practice of “corporate gatherings” existed even in Soviet times, but they were only held at their own expense.


      And there was also a trade union of the enterprise (which collected contributions from people), not only paid sanatorium vouchers to employees, but also organized public festivals, and sometimes the boss could simply demand from the head of the trade union organization (after the subbotnik) to drink and have a bite (knowing that he already has everything .
  3. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 12 December 2013 08: 18
    +4
    And that the State Duma has not yet submitted for consideration the draft law "On the prohibition of corporate evenings at the expense of the state budget" ... wink Strange however ... laughing
    1. morpogr
      morpogr 12 December 2013 08: 35
      +3
      First they will hold their corporate party, and then they will shake the air with righteous anger until.
      1. APES
        APES 12 December 2013 11: 40
        +4
        Quote: morpogr
        They will hold their corporate party first


        it feels like THEM's corporate party never ends ..........
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      3. AVV
        AVV 12 December 2013 12: 29
        +1
        Everyone will think that the employees were swollen after the corporate party, from hunger, but in fact it turns out that all this, from banal vodka !!!
  4. demotivator
    demotivator 12 December 2013 08: 22
    12
    But some live!
    "In order to strengthen patriotism, the Day of Security Service Workers in St. Petersburg will be celebrated on a grand scale at public expense. On December 20, at the closed government residence of Smolny" K-2 "on Krestovsky Island, about 200 employees of the FSB, FSO and SVR will celebrate their professional holiday. City officials did not regret for this from the budget of 1 million rubles ", says the correspondent of "Novaya Gazeta in St. Petersburg" Nina Petlyanova.
    Reading the menu for honoring security workers on an empty stomach is not recommended. In the preliminary version, they appear (the final menu may be more varied, but no less): strawberries with cheese, canapes of dried beef tenderloin with blueberries, home-made boiled pork with spices, prunes and garlic, vegetable rolls with zucchini and pine nuts, meat homemade roll with herbs and quail egg, smoked chicken filet with broccoli and cheese, home-made smoked salmon filet with dill sour cream, cheese baskets with shrimp, red caviar, mustard, three kinds of salads with gherkins, grapes and piquant dressing, asparagus confiture with porcini mushrooms and chicken fillet, pork steak with sweet potato gratin, Brussels sprouts, rosemary and green and red pepper sauce and other delicacies.
    From drinks: dry red wine, vodka, champagne, fruit drinks and mineral water.
    Tables in the restaurant by the Chekist Day, according to the terms of the competition, must be decorated with floral arrangements of roses with the addition of hydrangeas, antirrinum, alstroemeria, cordilina leaves or similar flowers. In addition, "tablecloths and chair covers should be in harmony with each other," and the tableware decor should be "combined with the general decoration and interior style."
    At the banquet, the presence of the head waiter is mandatory, as well as a sufficient number of well-trained waiters. Attendants are required to be hired at the rate of “one employee per three visitors”. Each waiter needs to be dressed in a beige or white tunic with embroidered cuffs. Two more conditions: restaurant employees “are obliged to know the various techniques for serving dishes - synchronized serving, to choose from, to carry out” and “be able to solve conflict situations.
    In general, the guys are walking !!!
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 12 December 2013 08: 33
      +3
      Oh, me! Servants of the people care for the people or the raven always raven with the raven.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 12 December 2013 09: 30
        +6
        Quote: GrBear
        Oh, me! Servants of the people care for the people


        But what about the reconstruction of one place at the Luzhniki Stadium for the World Cup in football will cost you 5 euros, and there should be at least 000 seats there.

        By the way, from today, education in German universities is free.
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    2. 505506
      505506 12 December 2013 09: 05
      +3
      Jackals! For some reason, only scolding comes to mind from such news!
    3. Niki
      Niki 12 December 2013 10: 14
      +3
      Well ... if you divide 1.000.000 by 200, then only 5.000 r per nose. In order to go to a restaurant for the evening this is not enough.
      And if you add all the listed details to the price tag, then even doubt takes that this money will definitely not be enough.
    4. lukke
      lukke 12 December 2013 10: 38
      +3
      Well, in this case, the mayor's office of Peter "bends" and is substituted. If we take the strength of the FSB, FSO and SVR in St. Petersburg and the region - it is much more than 200 people. + plus some of the city hall. Still, this gangway is only for the leading personnel of these departments, it seems to me. Well, as they wrote - 1 lam per 200 snouts - five per brother. In general, Russian Railways is still driving!) Official = freebie (how much the state would not pay him)
    5. lukke
      lukke 12 December 2013 10: 38
      0
      Well, in this case, the mayor's office of Peter "bends" and is substituted. If we take the strength of the FSB, FSO and SVR in St. Petersburg and the region - it is much more than 200 people. + plus some of the city hall. Still, this gangway is only for the leading personnel of these departments, it seems to me. Well, as they wrote - 1 lam per 200 snouts - five per brother. In general, Russian Railways is still driving!) Official = freebie (how much the state would not pay him)
    6. 31231
      31231 12 December 2013 12: 44
      +1
      The new newspaper is a serious source, og. The menu was even colorfully painted. The faces then know about what their New newspaper treats?
      People, when will you grow up and stop harassing what journalists feed you ?!
    7. officer29
      officer29 12 December 2013 15: 13
      +1
      1 million, yes for 200 employees with one waiter for three persons, in a harmonious interior - yes it’s real pennies - 5 tyrov in physics! belay bully fool
  5. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 12 December 2013 08: 34
    0
    Quote: Valery Neon
    And that the State Duma has not yet submitted for consideration the draft law "On the prohibition of corporate evenings at the expense of the state budget" ... wink Strange however ... laughing

    What is strange? And they themselves, as a corporate party, will arrange for the purchase of vegetables in kindergartens of the country wassat
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 December 2013 09: 32
      +2
      Quote: Kolyan 2
      And they themselves, as a corporate party, will arrange for the purchase of vegetables in kindergartens of the country


      Why steam? Money for children will be stolen, and then announced on channel 1 SMS marathon of collecting money from for citizens to help children.
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    3. lukke
      lukke 12 December 2013 16: 19
      0
      DG ordered 2 Christmas trees at the price of a car and so that the colors of some ... there was a report
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  6. makarov
    makarov 12 December 2013 08: 36
    +4
    How everything reminds excerpts from the classic masterpiece "The Golden Calf", when bureaucrats hired Kozlevich for night picnics, and then the whole office sat down in the DOPR, winking and laughing at Kozlevich's proposal to revel at his own expense ...
  7. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 12 December 2013 08: 39
    +2
    Quote: 505506
    That they were given is true, but why did they not "notice" the leakage of budget funds before. And now they are trying to get around. But because this is not considered a crime, but was done so as not to anger the priest. The budget is like a feeding trough from where you can take it uncontrollably.

    Who was given hands? They’ve just been hinted that there’s nothing for the people to do. fool
    1. 505506
      505506 12 December 2013 09: 07
      0
      And maybe so, but about "handing over" is a metaphor, then it is written "about not to anger priest"
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  9. Keeper
    Keeper 12 December 2013 08: 43
    0
    Quote: "Author"
    it became known about the desire of the Russian Railways to arrange corporate parties for themselves for a total of 50 million rubles

    It should write Russian Railways (Open Joint Stock Company) - not having the right to manage budget funds ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 December 2013 09: 37
      +2
      Quote: Keeper
      It should write Russian Railways (Open Joint Stock Company) - not having the right to manage budget funds ...


      Has-has. OAO is the roof.

      Open Joint Stock Company "Russian Railways"
      Registered capital: 1 887 709 216 000 rubles.
      Founders
      Government of the Russian Federation (controlling stake)
      RUB 1
  10. ZU-23
    ZU-23 12 December 2013 08: 43
    +2
    They also make people go to these corporations, my sister works for me in a powerful oil office, says try not to come, but she doesn’t need it at all, she plows for three and wants to relax. The bosses speak bluntly, built on the windowsill laughing
    1. dengy12
      dengy12 12 December 2013 19: 39
      +1
      Quote: ZU-23
      They also make people go to these corporations, my sister works for me in a powerful oil office, says try not to come, but she doesn’t need it at all, she plows for three and wants to relax. The bosses speak bluntly, built on the windowsill laughing

      finally didn’t understand
  11. lotar
    lotar 12 December 2013 08: 55
    0
    Application No.31300712800. According to this application, Sberbank of Russia (a controlling stake belongs to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation)
    Sberbank has for some time been a private office and its nominal head is German Gref. In reality, it is unknown who owns the main block of shares. Even the employees themselves are not up to date.
  12. kaktus
    kaktus 12 December 2013 08: 57
    +5
    "I eat a sandwich with caviar -
    I think: what about the people?
    and caviar doesn’t go into the throat,
    and the compote does not pour into your mouth! " wassat
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 13 December 2013 06: 01
      +1
      Quote: kaktus
      and caviar doesn’t go into the throat,
      and the compote does not pour into your mouth! "

      Replace "Compote" with "cognac". Let not rhyme, but ride like a sled.
  13. pensioner
    pensioner 12 December 2013 09: 04
    0
    In our organization, corporate parties also pass in a big way. But we earn them ourselves ourselves !! And in state-owned enterprises, one must somehow be more modest, more modest ... repeat If the ballerinas from the Bolshoi were already called to dance, then at least do not call the orchestra, let them dance to the plywood, and even make it easier to dress ...
  14. shurup
    shurup 12 December 2013 09: 10
    +3
    New Year's nose. Buffoons are already preparing a repertoire.
    And again 50 kopecks are collected from the employees for a wreath of Bublikova. We bury him every year on New Year's Eve.
  15. Stiletto
    Stiletto 12 December 2013 09: 13
    +2
    This will be the case as long as we “sort of fight” against corruption. Mass shootings could help, but not in our state, the most humane in relation to thieves in the world.
  16. winkiller
    winkiller 12 December 2013 09: 35
    +2
    I don’t understand one thing. None of you work? Nobody has ever been on corporate parties? And corporate parties and gifts for children will always be and YOU will be the first to howl that your goitre leaders squeezed money for a normal drink, put a cheap krasnadarsky flag and not French or Italian.
    What do you want from the leadership? they have a headache how to fulfill your requirement of "ordinary" employees. And now they have to get out and disguise the purchase as gifts for children. And there is no need to involve trade unions here, at many enterprises now a trade union is a fiction and it is not everywhere.
    And what should the children of those who do not want to join the "Good" trade union do? Children than guilty. And I am glad if the leaders of such companies buy gifts for all children, and not just for the trade union ones. Children cannot be shared !!!

    People ... I am against buying gifts for TOP managers of companies laptops and iPhones (this is disgusting!), And no one can be against gifts to children.

    PS: Oh right now, they will mock me wink
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 December 2013 09: 39
      +4
      Quote: winkiller
      And corporate parties and gifts for children will always be


      Yeah. Do not drink beer a mug, but buy a child a toy.

      Quote: winkiller
      PS: Oh right now, they wink me


      Come on...
      1. winkiller
        winkiller 12 December 2013 09: 54
        +1
        Well, I have two :) so I have -2 circles :)
    2. Volodin
      12 December 2013 15: 16
      0
      So who is against gifts for children? - Nobody! But why do you need to use the public procurement website and budget funds of the company accountable to the main shareholder (Central Bank or government) to order gifts? And where is the guarantee that it is "on the sly" at the state expense that their "iPhones" and top managers will not receive? That, as they say, is the question.
      1. winkiller
        winkiller 13 December 2013 16: 10
        +1
        As far as I know, the state procurement website should publish enterprises which forced it to do so by law (read the purpose of creating the site to end), and they have nothing to buy otherwise. and it’s done just so that everyone can see what money is being spent on. And also why did you decide that if the state procurement website then purchases on it are carried out precisely from budget funds?
        There are ALL purchases, and such purchases as CORPORATE are made from profit and you can’t put them on cost, otherwise the tax will gobble up!
  17. tomas.09
    tomas.09 12 December 2013 09: 40
    +5
    Chechnya "killed" me the most with a New Year's corporate party. Are they like Muslims? So what kind of NG is it.
    1. Niki
      Niki 12 December 2013 10: 20
      0
      Yes, the point is that this is only an excuse for "mastering". And they will even make decorations. True, an order for this work will definitely be received by one of the "friends", but there shouldn't be anybody even close there.
  18. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 12 December 2013 10: 16
    +4
    Why do you need all this at all? Corporate events or what else? I looked at the calendar, New Year falls on Tuesday, actually a normal working day and why do such a huge weekend? On the first, well, on the second of January, we had a rest, and that's enough. I'm not "paid. agent of the CIA and the State Department ", but I happened to study in America, so there is no such thing, and here I agree with the" Decaying West ", but if this is a common corruption scheme, we need to deal with this, it's one thing to buy gifts for children, I can to understand, and another to arrange a bacchanalia for several million, it would be better to spend them on orphanages, buy gifts for children, but it's just some kind of horror.
    1. Niki
      Niki 12 December 2013 10: 23
      +2
      What's the difference Tuesday or not? In general, corporate events from the 20th will begin at small companies.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 12 December 2013 10: 49
        +1
        Why are they needed at all? You can refuse them altogether and not spend both your own and official money. It’s just that you can’t celebrate New Year at home?
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  19. dnh1970
    dnh1970 12 December 2013 10: 57
    +1
    expenses should be profile, the rest at their own expense or in a special scheme ......
  20. ImPerts
    ImPerts 12 December 2013 11: 51
    +2
    For heads of state corporations:
    Everything is simple. There are 1% of professional contributions. Collect during the year. Planning a holiday, make an estimate. Allocate the nth amount from the trade union, the missing part is paid by the participants of the corporate party. Do you want Stasik Mikhailov? For 250.000 Euro? Pay from your own pocket. Do not want expensive? Order a DJ for 3 hours, then you can get by with a pre-recorded disc tongue , with the same stasik or stasikami good
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 12 December 2013 11: 53
      0
      I forgot to add ... We do it, switchgear does not sleep wink
      1. ty60
        ty60 12 December 2013 22: 39
        0
        sure that you do not work in a pension fund
  21. washi
    washi 12 December 2013 12: 09
    +1
    Gos. companies do not have the right to conduct corporate events and finance non-core assets, pay large premiums at our expense.
    Why spend millions on financing football clubs and buying players?
    Can the population and the maintenance of sports schools at the district level spend money on gas supply?
    There are enough nuggets in our country, but not enough attention to them.
    1. winkiller
      winkiller 13 December 2013 16: 16
      0
      Sorry, why did you decide what exactly is your account? those. Employees of companies with a certain share of the state should not celebrate the new year. And only 100% private companies can afford it. Not people mean in "GOS" companies and have no right to a holiday. I'm not talking about the TOPs, they don't need it, they would be happy to do without all this, but non-people demand.
  22. lotar
    lotar 12 December 2013 12: 41
    +1
    By the way, on the topic of state corporations and the lives of their shareholders, there is a joke:
  23. demotivator
    demotivator 12 December 2013 13: 43
    +1
    The English philosopher and political thinker John Locke (1632-1704) in 1691 wrote the work "Thoughts on Education". This is the best I've seen on this subject. In particular, it will be about food, about nutrition.
    So, a fragment from the work of D. Locke:
    "... I think that many people become gourmets and gluttons by force of habit, not being so by nature; and I see that in different countries people who eat only twice a day are as strong and cheerful as those who by constant exercise taught their stomachs to remind of themselves four or five times.The Romans ate almost nothing before dinner; it was the only real food even for those who ate more than once a day; and those who had the habit of having breakfast - alone at eight o'clock, others at nine, and still others at twelve or a little later - they never ate meat and did not force to prepare a special dish for themselves.August, being already the greatest monarch on earth, tells us that he took a piece of bread with him And Seneca, telling in his 83rd letter, what regime he had established for himself, already being an old man, when his age allowed relaxation, says that he had the habit of eating only a piece of dry bread at dinner and did not even sit down at the table, although the state allowed him (if his health would require it) to spend on dinner no worse than any accepted in England, even twice as much. The rulers of the world grew up on this meager food; and the young gentlemen in Rome did not feel a lack of strength, physical or spiritual, because they ate only once a day. If it happened that someone was not able to fast before supper, which was the only food established, then he would take only a piece of dry bread or - at most - a few raisins to "starve the worm."
    This rule of moderation was considered so necessary for health and work that the custom of sitting at the table once a day withstood the influx of luxury that was brought into the environment of the Romans by their conquests and plunder in the East, and even those who abandoned the ancient moderation in food and began to set feasts, did not start them earlier than evening. Sitting at a table more than once a day was considered so monstrous that, until the time of Caesar, the Romans found it reprehensible to have a feast or sit at a table before sunset. Therefore, if it is not seen as excessive severity, I would consider it most appropriate to give my young gentleman also only bread for breakfast. "
  24. Garrin
    Garrin 12 December 2013 17: 54
    0
    And who are we from the Far East? What corporate events are there for those who are in the flood zone? Whose silence is complete. Information blockade. Unsubscribe, men, who owns the issue.
    1. family tree
      family tree 12 December 2013 20: 11
      +2
      Literally a month ago, Russian Railways OJSC completed, voluntarily-forcibly, to collect money from Russian Railways employees to help railroad workers affected by the flood in the Far East what Against the background of the fact that some rumors have come about the money raised for the injured railway workers in Krymsk, the news about the corporate party is very interesting for us. angry
  25. waisson
    waisson 12 December 2013 19: 46
    0
    bourgeois rage with fat and all at the expense of the people
  26. Cherdak
    Cherdak 12 December 2013 20: 22
    +1
    Download, and without corporate party can come in handy winked
  27. Garrin
    Garrin 12 December 2013 20: 29
    0
    Quote: Cherdak
    Download, and without corporate party can be useful winked

    And why are you doing this? What is relevant for Finnish drunks?
  28. konvalval
    konvalval 12 December 2013 23: 18
    0
    They walked, walked and would walk at their own expense. From his pocket there are only men in garages.
  29. GUSAR
    GUSAR 13 December 2013 06: 58
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    Window dressing and fraud, in general in the spirit of Putin's politics, otherwise he was angry, disgusting pancake ....
  30. Bort radist
    Bort radist 13 December 2013 12: 36
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    At an extraordinary meeting of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, the news - "Kim Jong-un's uncle was executed in the DPRK for treason" recognized as provocative, a note was handed to the DPRK ambassador. laughing
    PS There is a Magnitsky list, but there is no Serdyukov list, why?
  31. Crrusader40
    Crrusader40 13 December 2013 18: 13
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    Corporate parties at the expense of the budget are of course "kapets". In my opinion, the best solution is a corporate party at the expense of the participants, or, as they say, take and chip in