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In Arzamas, after the murder of a local resident, pogroms began: more than 70 people were detained

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In the city of Arzamas, Nizhny Novgorod region, riots started, provoked by the murder of a local resident. This crime caused a great public outcry, as migrants were suspected of it. As a result, drunken crowds of local residents began to smash shops and stalls. In the city sent riot police. Already arrested dozens of thugs.


Recall that the initial public actions of local residents - the Arzamas people staged a "people's gathering" in the city, demanding justice and punishment for the murderers - were held peacefully. Militiamen later reported that they managed to prevent a violation of public order.

However, today in the regional State Ministry of Internal Affairs they also try not to dramatize. The police said they did not believe that the situation was out of control. However, the ministry admits that additional police forces have been sent to Arzamas. “The protection of public order in the city is carried out by the personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in the city of Arzamas, as well as by the attached forces of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in the Nizhny Novgorod Region,” the official website of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs reports.

The coordination of the actions of the security forces in Arzamas is carried out by the acting deputy police chief for the protection of public order of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for the Nizhny Novgorod Region police colonel Vladimir Generalov. "At present, the police are conducting explanatory work with citizens on the prevention of unlawful actions," the Ministry of Internal Affairs added.

Meanwhile, an alarming atmosphere prevails in Arzamas, which is reported on the Internet forums by local residents and reported by news agencies. According to one citizen, it is better not to appear near the Metro and Colosseum shopping centers, since the riot policemen "take everyone in a row, even the girls."

According to the portal "ProCity", a group of young people allegedly just walked around the Perekrestok shop and was taken to the police station.

And Life News writes that by the evening of Monday, about 70 people were detained, but their number continued to grow. One local resident said that her mother went to the electrics store, where half of the store was destroyed in front of her eyes.

Judging by the videos posted on the Internet, groups of aggressively-minded young people walked the streets shouting "Russians ahead!" and other nationalist slogans. At the same time they hit the shop windows and smash the trade pavilions, writes Rosbalt.



The police reluctantly acknowledge the fact of pogroms, trying not to call a spade a spade. They only admit that on Monday evening several dozen people were arrested in Arzamas on suspicion of committing offenses. Most of them were intoxicated.

An employee of the press service of the State Ministry of Internal Affairs also clarified to Interfax that there were two shop windows in the city.

The police opened a criminal case under the article "Deliberate destruction or damage to property." "Four people were detained. A criminal case has been opened under article 167. Now the situation is stable. Police officers are carrying out a set of operational and preventive measures that are aimed at ensuring law and order in the city of Arzamas," the Russian Service said. News"Deputy Head of the Information and Public Relations Department of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for the Nizhny Novgorod Region Tatyana Serikova.



The residents of Arzamas do not support all the actions of the pogromists, believing that they even got a little excited about xenophobia. “Someone broke all the windows on the facade of the 198 house on Lenin Avenue, and the owners there are not at all“ chocks ”, for example,” one of the local girls told Komsomolskaya Pravda. “They just rented a department there alone. And the owners and the rest tenants are Russians. "



Recall that the exacerbation of the situation in Arzamas was a domestic murder committed on the night of December 7. Then in a fight on the street 50 for years the Komsomol 26-year-old Alexander Slakaev received fatal knife wounds. He died on the way to the Arzamas central district hospital. Alexander Karpov, the same age as Alexander, was also hospitalized, who was also stabbed.

As the Arzamas of Slavic nationality and natives of one of the Central Asian republics participated in the conflict, he instantly acquired a national coloring in the eyes of local residents.

Immediately after the murder of 50 to 300 residents of Arzamas came to the "people's gathering" on the Cathedral Square of the city. They were visited by the head of the city administration and the head of the city police. After the conversation with the officials, the people dispersed without any violation of public order, reported in the regional police headquarters. The head of the regional police, Ivan Shaev, took control of the operational situation in Arzamas. And the regional SC IC initiated a criminal case under part 1 of Article 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (murder).

To date, arrested three people suspected of involvement in a fight with a knife fight. Although law enforcement agencies usually willingly report suspected migrants and visitors, but this time the comments of the RF IC are stingy. "On suspicion of committing the murder of 26-year-old Alexander Slakaev, three suspects were detained - men of 1982, 1972 and 1986 of the year of birth," said a spokeswoman for the agency, Yulia Sklyarova.

Note that an important role at the beginning of the pogroms was played by the distrust of citizens towards officials suspected of total corruption. The locals say that “Armenians, along with other minorities, have bought everything and everyone here (in Arzamas).” Therefore, they do not believe in the very possibility of punishing murderers.
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  1. RBLip
    RBLip 10 December 2013 12: 50
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    ... shouting "Russians forward!" and other nationalist slogans.
    . quite moved with their tolerance already ...
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 10 December 2013 12: 54
      +4
      Freedom does not mean will, laws must be respected!
      1. RBLip
        RBLip 10 December 2013 13: 01
        71
        ShturmKGB
        Freedom does not mean will, laws must be respected!

        exactly! only laws must be respected by ALL citizens of this country! and for some reason, it’s not so at all with us. request
        1. Chemicalin23
          Chemicalin23 10 December 2013 13: 08
          26
          I absolutely agree with you, if in our country those in power would observe the laws that they themselves create, by the way, we would live in another country.
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          2. avdkrd
            avdkrd 10 December 2013 20: 24
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            I completely agree. If we demand FULL compliance with the laws from each official and HARDLY punish even the slightest violation of traffic rules, or rather not for the violation itself, but for trying to evade responsibility, then we will live in another country. At the moment, the higher the status of the criminal, the less likely that he will get what he deserves. Diasporas undoubtedly take advantage of the venality of officials and security officials and in large numbers block their financial needs in case of serious problems, in addition, a bunch of liberal media work for the diasporas, heating the national question and immediately starting to yell about Russian Nazism.
            1. 225chay
              225chay 10 December 2013 21: 28
              15
              Quote: avdkrd
              Diasporas undoubtedly take advantage of the venality of officials and security officials and in large numbers block their financial needs in case of serious problems, in addition, a bunch of liberal media work for the diasporas, heating the national question and immediately starting to yell about Russian Nazism.

              S.ts..ki, the next! In Omsk, Russian boxer Ivan Klimov was stabbed to death ... Before that, he was shot by the son of a gypsy drug lord ... And no one is looking for a killer!
              What epidemic has started or what? why are killing Russians?
              Why do Russian laws allow visitors to kill Russians?
              1. ser86
                ser86 11 December 2013 01: 43
                +7
                Quote: 225chay
                Why do Russian laws allow visitors to kill Russians?

                because the Russians do not want to assert their rights and participate in the real life of their country, which is what everyone else uses
                somebody officially opposed such laws (officially it's not to beat showcases on the street)
                we do not have a civil society as such, we have conversations in the kitchen and discontent, well, sometimes you can let off steam, go out into the street and shout "Russians forward"
                1. Heccrbq.3
                  Heccrbq.3 11 December 2013 18: 11
                  +1
                  Sergei is also killing us, because they see what a herd we have turned into!
              2. ser86
                ser86 11 December 2013 01: 50
                +2
                Quote: 225chay
                Quote: avdkrd
                Diasporas undoubtedly take advantage of the venality of officials and security officials and in large numbers block their financial needs in case of serious problems, in addition, a bunch of liberal media work for the diasporas, heating the national question and immediately starting to yell about Russian Nazism.

                S.ts..ki, the next! In Omsk, Russian boxer Ivan Klimov was stabbed to death ... Before that, he was shot by the son of a gypsy drug lord ... And no one is looking for a killer!
                What epidemic has started or what? why are killing Russians?
                Why do Russian laws allow visitors to kill Russians?

                Now it will be very interesting for me to observe
                who from all this crowd will throw themselves at the funeral will help the family of the murdered
                who will demand the resignation of Arzamas’s measure for the conflict, it seems to us that now they are being dismissed for this ..

                in general who will help and who will demand
                who finally will remember his rights
                and drunken heroes let the Russians continue to yell forward yes even the Tatars, in Africa gorilas also yell nothing changes from this
                1. 225chay
                  225chay 11 December 2013 07: 25
                  +3
                  Quote: ser86
                  Now it will be very interesting for me to observe
                  who from all this crowd will throw themselves at the funeral will help the family of the murdered
                  who will demand the resignation of Arzamas’s measure for the conflict, it seems to us that now they are being dismissed for this ..

                  It is not necessary to observe, but to gather the whole world and help!
                  And also demand action and the resignation of the chapter!
                  In general, visitors should behave quietly like mice if they come to visit, and not to be fumbling.
                  And then from the realization that they did a favor to Russia, you see, they entered the Customs Union, will sit on our heads and kill our people - Slavs, Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs, Mordovians, and others?
                  And should we endure?
                  1. Stanislas
                    Stanislas 11 December 2013 20: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: 225chay
                    In general, visitors should behave quietly like mice if they come to visit

                    Have you invited mice to visit? Newcomers will always behave as they are allowed to behave. As long as you are here or on the square you demand measures and resignations - nothing will change, even if measures are taken and resignations are made. Even if we eradicate corruption in the police (the ancient Greeks achieved this by the fact that the police were slaves: a slave does not take money, since he cannot buy anything with it, because he is not a subject of commercial and other civil relations), they will not be able, although want to come to the rescue on time. Rescuing the drowning ... Otherwise, it is possible as "Cossacks" Kuban: 600 people with the chieftain sat in the cellars and Tsapoki did not touch them, although they were threatened many times.
                    1. ser86
                      ser86 12 December 2013 09: 23
                      +1
                      "The guest remains a guest while the owner is in the house" commander Alexander Nevsky.
              3. Igor39
                Igor39 11 December 2013 11: 54
                +1
                Why not deport Gypsies to somewhere like the French? Gypsies are engaged only in drug trafficking, theft and fraud of citizens and by the way everyone knows about it. Of course, I am for more radical methods, but unfortunately they are not humane ...
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 10 December 2013 13: 16
          -25 qualifying.
          Statistics in the studio! Provide the numbers, citizen.
          1. niki233
            niki233 10 December 2013 19: 18
            +5
            YOU where do you live dear?
            1. catapractic
              catapractic 10 December 2013 22: 39
              0
              apparently living in her pink dreams
          2. 225chay
            225chay 10 December 2013 21: 29
            +3
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi Today, 13:16 PM ↑
            Statistics in the studio! Provide the numbers, citizen.

            What are your tsifirki? Judging by your nickname
        3. avg
          avg 10 December 2013 13: 21
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          Quote: RBLip
          only laws must be respected by ALL citizens of this country!

          Laws must be respected and not by citizens coming to our country!
        4. kaktus
          kaktus 10 December 2013 14: 57
          +8
          and not citizens either!
        5. Warrawar
          Warrawar 10 December 2013 16: 19
          16
          Quote: RBLip
          exactly! only laws must be respected by ALL citizens of this country! and for some reason, it’s not so at all with us.

          First of all, the laws must be respected by "non-citizens" and the demand from them must be double.
          1. Eugeniy_369
            Eugeniy_369 10 December 2013 17: 23
            0
            Quote: Warrawar
            First of all, laws must be respected by "non-citizens"

            Can citizens be fooled?
            1. Warrawar
              Warrawar 10 December 2013 17: 35
              +7
              Quote: Eugeniy_369
              Quote: Warrawar
              First of all, laws must be respected by "non-citizens"

              Can citizens be fooled?

              no, not possible.
            2. DEfindER
              DEfindER 10 December 2013 18: 05
              16
              Quote: Eugeniy_369
              Quote: Warrawar
              First of all, laws must be respected by "non-citizens"
              Can citizens be fooled?

              I believe that more severe measures should be applied to newcomers. if you are outraged at a party, then the attitude towards you is the same. Naturally, we cannot be "naughty" either, but if the authorities themselves push the people by their inaction and corruption, then there should be extenuating circumstances for such brawlers ..
            3. catapractic
              catapractic 10 December 2013 22: 40
              +2
              do not finish and we will not be naughty
              1. Eugeniy_369
                Eugeniy_369 11 December 2013 11: 00
                +1
                Quote: cataphractium
                do not finish and we will not be naughty

                Not in the eyebrow but in the eye laughing laughing laughing .
        6. Committee
          Committee 10 December 2013 17: 09
          14
          And NOT citizens, they should be respected even more so, and the lack of citizenship should be an aggravating circumstance!
        7. zennon
          zennon 10 December 2013 18: 23
          0
          only laws must be respected by ALL citizens of this country!

          And citizens of other countries who come here, they should not be respected ...
        8. 19611961
          19611961 10 December 2013 21: 29
          0
          And first of all by the police ....
          1. catapractic
            catapractic 10 December 2013 22: 41
            0
            and officials angry
        9. ser86
          ser86 11 December 2013 01: 38
          +2
          then you need to be able to evade laws, the smarter is the one who knows how to do
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      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 13: 02
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        ShturmKGB
        laws must be respected!

        First of all, the law must be respected by those who represent it !!!
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 10 December 2013 13: 22
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          First of all, the law must be respected by those who represent it !!!

          +++ It's like in Moscow, hot guys from the Caucasus with the manners and behavior of a kishlak shoot into the air in the center of Moscow, they are caught by a command like "Intercept" and then immediately released ... because dad is the owner of the brewery and he has it .. .. who should be oiled where should be bought and in general I tend to believe the residents of Arzamas when they say that -
          Local residents say that "the Armenians, along with other national minorities, bought everyone and everything here (in Arzamas)."
          1. Eugeniy_369
            Eugeniy_369 10 December 2013 17: 03
            15
            Quote: Scoun
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            First of all, the law must be respected by those who represent it !!!

            So we smoothly and came to the topic - Who is the roof of "Tolik Taburetkin"?
            Mr. Romanov everywhere taldychit about the fact that - the Tsar de good! Boyar s.ki! But it’s interesting how you can demand from adolescents who beat windows to comply with the law if our guarantor spits in plain text on the constitution, the word panimash is magical,"contract" wink .
            "Part 3 of Article 81 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation reads:" One and the same person cannot hold the office of President of the Russian Federation for more than two consecutive terms. "
            If you look at the text with a foggy look, then, in full accordance with the spirit of our Constitution, which protects the country from usurpation of power, the main word here, of course, is MORE. Only two terms - and no more than that! The word CONTRACT has purely technical meaning in this article. It only indicates that these two terms allowed to the president follow the CONTRACT, one after another ... And if you did not advance for a second term IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIRST, then the train left.
            So Alexander Romanov first from President V.V. Putin demand that he would observe our main law "Constitution", and then from everyone else.
            The violation of the law in my state comes from the very top. This is my purely personal opinion.
            PS Scoun Excuse me for quoting you, citizen Romanov put me in "black" crying .
            1. iulai
              iulai 10 December 2013 17: 17
              +5
              I completely agree, at the beginning, those who hold power must abide by the laws! If they spit on laws, then ordinary members of society all the more! Thief and grabber Serdyukov in the wild, and the same Pussy Wright in the zone. The question is, who brought more harm to the country, Serdyukov or these girls?
              1. demel2
                demel2 10 December 2013 17: 36
                10
                If laws must be respected, then Serdyukov and the girls should sit, only the terms must be different. IMHO
              2. gispanec
                gispanec 10 December 2013 17: 43
                +1
                Quote: iulai
                Thief and grabber Serdyukov in the wild, and the same Pussy Wright in the zone. The question is, who brought more harm to the country, Serdyukov or these girls?

                the answer is Santa Claus and Gazprom did the most harm to the country ..... I’ll explain .... the dreams of the citizens of the Russian Federation do not come true ... unlike the authorities + fairy-tale character and Gazprom)))
              3. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 10 December 2013 18: 19
                +3
                Quote: iulai
                The question is, who brought more harm to the country, Serdyukov or these girls?

                The results are unknown. Perdyukov and rabid uterus all the same - enemies!
            2. gispanec
              gispanec 10 December 2013 17: 40
              +7
              Quote: Eugeniy_369
              PS Scoun Excuse me for citing you, citizen Romanov put me in "black"

              this guy with the name of the novels brought the site’s floor into the emergency ... when he tried to explain to him that he was wrong (electronically) ... so he answered everything and I don’t care ... I decided so fse !! ... so here he’s kind of not a very smart representative from the Kremlin
              1. 225chay
                225chay 11 December 2013 06: 15
                +2
                I think that you shouldn't blame Romanov indiscriminately for bringing in the floor of the site in emergency situations. Rather, this is the work of Vadim Smirov - he is a big "amateur"
                1. Eugeniy_369
                  Eugeniy_369 11 December 2013 08: 49
                  0
                  Quote: 225chay
                  Rather, this is the work of Vadim Smirov - he is a big "amateur"

                  The same thought came to my mind after reading his comments. Serving at work wink monitors the expanses of the Internet.
            3. suomi
              suomi 10 December 2013 19: 03
              -1
              Where have you been all the time after the election? Subject sucked to the ground. And you wrote correctly that this is your personal opinion. But the main thing in this text of the Constitution is the word contract... Try to take a look "not blurred gaze."
            4. Valkyrie
              Valkyrie 11 December 2013 08: 58
              +2
              I support! But the whole point is that the Constitution is subject to changes in the way that is beneficial to its guarantor. And first of all, these changes are observed concerning the rights of power structures, and in terms of the rights of the people, no one even thinks to observe anything. As if the Constitution was not drawn up for the people of the country, but for the "servants" of the people.
          2. 225chay
            225chay 10 December 2013 21: 35
            +2
            Quote: Scoun
            since dad is the owner of the brewery and he has .... who needs to be oiled where to buy and in general I tend to believe the residents of Arzamas when they say that -
            Local residents say that "the Armenians, along with other national minorities, bought everyone and everything here (in Arzamas)."

            Why be surprised? For a long time, everyone knows that the owners of construction businesses like Feroyan in Ivanovo or oil and diamond magnates are doing outrage and know that they will pay off at any time.
            the authorities are doing everything so that the degree of boiling of the national boiler rises as high as possible
        2. A.YARY
          A.YARY 10 December 2013 13: 37
          +9
          Nationalism Alexander is also discredited by lumpen and those who want to profit at his expense. And in general, this "brotherhood", as it seems to me for a long time, is the most disciplined in sense.as soon as fermentation starts somewhere, they’re here, like here! Behind the buzz!
          But on the national self-awareness to cock at all obscene!
          The issue needs to be addressed! But calm and balanced!
          Officials, however, have their own purely selfish concepts, and since their "branch" of power is called the EXECUTIVE one, and they should be involved in the issue of national policy as EXECUTORS, and certainly not as advisers.
          hi
      4. Beck
        Beck 10 December 2013 13: 47
        15
        ShturmKGB
        Freedom does not mean will, laws must be respected!


        TO BECOME ABSOLUTELY FREE, YOU NEED TO BECOME A SLAVE OF THE LAW.

        Mark Thulius Cicero.
        1. grandfather
          grandfather 10 December 2013 18: 31
          +1
          Support!
        2. Lesnik
          Lesnik 10 December 2013 21: 41
          +1
          "Words are weightless - but every action has its own weight"

          Titus Lucretius Car.

          My father often quoted in such cases. wink
      5. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 10 December 2013 13: 50
        18
        The law implies equality of responsibility for one’s actions, and for the time being, in our country, national authorities in a privileged position (above the law) will only happen more often.
        1. Beck
          Beck 10 December 2013 14: 17
          -6
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          The law implies equality of responsibility for one’s actions, and for the time being, in our country, national authorities in a privileged position (above the law) will only happen more often.


          But can you cite the relevant articles in the Constitution of Russia, in the Criminal Code, in the Administrative where the national authorities are privileged? I think you will not, because there are none. And your koment - verbiage.

          I am sure in Arzamas, and in other cities of Russia, on that day, hundreds of incidents took place with murders, too, where Slavs participated on both sides. And all without noise, such is life that we cannot live without incidents. But the only one where the nazmen are involved, even migrants, caused a storm among the Natsiks.

          And the very concept of national leadership includes precisely the citizens of Russia. And due to the fact that some citizens of Russia did something illegal, this is not a reason for the Nazis to smash the Russian city.
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          2. FunkschNNX
            FunkschNNX 10 December 2013 15: 10
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            Quote: Beck
            But the only one where the nazmen are involved, even migrants, caused a storm among the Natsiks.

            Your logic is not correct. I understand that if in Russia there is so much of its rabble, then let rabble eat here from its neighbors?
            1. Beck
              Beck 10 December 2013 15: 47
              -11 qualifying.
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              Your logic is not correct. I understand that if in Russia there is so much of its rabble, then let rabble eat here from its neighbors?


              No one says that any country needs a foreign rabble.

              Well, the economic situation has developed so much that Russia does not have enough workers to do rough work. And most of this problem lies with the Russians themselves, well, they don’t have a soul for the work of a janitor, concrete worker, sewer worker and so on (and this applies not only to the Russians, but also to the Germans in particular, and to Europe in general, therefore in Germany about 3 million Turks). A place is never empty. It was for these works that migrants arrived. Labor migrants, not rabble.

              If the Natsiks want the Russian economy to begin to stall, then all the labor migrants must be deported simultaneously.

              And then the migrants did not come to an empty place. They came to work that, in Soviet times, in cities, carried out the limit. That is, non-resident people were hired by the limit and worked as janitors, workers in felt and felt factories and so on by temporary residence permit. Living also in crowded dormitories.

              Labor migrants from Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan also come to Kazakhstan, but we have no such problems. If, for example, an Uzbek killed a Kazakh or our Russian, then it was primarily a man who killed a man.
              1. baltika-18
                baltika-18 10 December 2013 17: 48
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                Quote: Beck
                Well, the economic situation has developed so much that Russia does not have enough workers to do rough work

                Do not lie to others Beck and do not write something about which you have no idea.
                Quote: Beck
                If the Natsiks want the Russian economy to begin to stall, then all the labor migrants must be deported simultaneously.

                The only way and in no other way is precisely to throw it into Stolypin cars and without stops.
                We will not begin to slip, we will close commercial universities, we will employ all the loafers from the administrations.
                1. Beck
                  Beck 10 December 2013 19: 58
                  -9
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  Do not lie to others Beck and do not write something about which you have no idea.


                  If there were enough workers, then all labor vacancies would be occupied. And nobody would come automatically. What to come if there is no work. So don’t lie to you.

                  Quote: baltika-18
                  The only way and in no other way is precisely to throw it into Stolypin cars and without stops.


                  Flag in hand, tailwind, in the back, or something. Migrants will feel bad, but the Russian economy is no sweeter.
                2. sleepy
                  sleepy 11 December 2013 01: 04
                  +4
                  Quote: Beck

                  "Well, that's the way the economic situation is,
                  that Russia does not have enough workers for rough work ... "
                  "If the Nazis want the Russian economy to start slipping, then all labor migrants must be deported at once, in bulk ..."


                  An open letter from the head of the Superjob.ru portal, Alexei Zakharov, to the President of the Russian Federation.
                  December 10 2012 year.

                  "... But the real policy pursued in the field of personnel leads to
                  that by 2020 an additional 25 million jobs will be created for low-skilled migrants. This is in addition to the 10-15 million jobs that are created for them now.
                  As a result of the state policy pursued in the coming decades, the number of low-skilled migrants attracted from abroad will amount to more than half of the economically active population of the country ...

                  A Russian citizen cannot and should not compete for a job and a beggarly salary with visitors from Central Asia.
                  Russian citizens are not ready and should not live in bestial conditions
                  20 people in a room, receiving a meager salary for their work.
                  And our citizens do not want.

                  But, I emphasize this does not mean that they do not want to work.
                  They do not want to work for a salary that does not allow
                  give birth and raise children, eat normally and be treated.
                  Moreover, according to our research, today real competition with visitors from Central Asia is already felt
                  18% of our fellow citizens.

                  But this is in general, and among low-skilled Russian youth and low-skilled older people, competition is already claimed by almost 25%! These are scary numbers, Mr. President! ..

                  We plan, through the Ministry of Labor, to spend hundreds of billions of rubles in the coming years on attracting and adapting migrants. If the same money is additionally directed to the education of our citizens, there is still a chance that in 20 years we still will not forget how
                  fly into space.

                  But just not enough money! Necessary today (tomorrow it will be too late) completely close the Russian labor market for unskilled migration from abroad. Totally!
                  No quotas.

                  The inability to attract cheap labor will force businesses to invest in the very innovations, increase labor productivity, and create “good” jobs. There is no other way.
                  Or degradation (and its speed increases),
                  either tough political decisions ...

                  The world will not collapse. And prices will not rise.
                  Salaries of a significant part of Russian citizens will increase. First low-skilled, then those with higher qualifications: everything is interconnected. And this money will remain in the country - it will be spent on the development of the Russian economy. They will create new jobs for the citizens of the Russian Federation ... "
                  Head of Superjob.ru portal Alexey Zakharov
                  http://www.superjob.ru/info/announcement.html?id=111332
                  1. sleepy
                    sleepy 11 December 2013 01: 16
                    +4
                    Quote: Beck

                    "Well, the economic situation just so happened that Russia does not have enough workers for rough work ..."

                    "In Kronstadt, they are satisfied with the replacement of migrant janitors by Russians."
                    http://www.gazeta.spb.ru/1431457-0/

                    “What advantages do we have from attracting tens of millions of low-skilled migrants? I don't see a single one.
                    We blur Russian culture (I emphasize, not Russian,
                    and Russian). Uncontrolled migration creates problems
                    not only in Moscow and other "Russian" megacities - in our "Muslim" regions the influx of cheap labor
                    from abroad creates the same difficulties.

                    Could someone imagine ten years ago that there will be classes in Moscow schools where children do not speak Russian well or do not speak the state language at all? Today it is a reality. If the flow
                    if you don’t stop, then in a short time schools will appear
                    and areas where it will be difficult to hear Russian speech. Another five years
                    back in the Russian language did not exist the word "Moskabbad".
                    But today this is no longer perceived as a joke.

                    What kind of modern economy and its development can be discussed
                    when using slave labor? What breakthroughs are we talking about
                    if the average person living in Russia in twenty years will have difficulty reading and speaking
                    in Russian?...".

                    From an open letter from the head of Superjob.ru portal Alexei Zakharov to the President of the Russian Federation.
                    December 10 2012 year.
                    http://www.superjob.ru/info/announcement.html?id=111332
                    1. 225chay
                      225chay 11 December 2013 06: 23
                      +3
                      Quote: sleepy
                      living in Russia, in twenty years it will be difficult to read and speak
                      in Russian?...".

                      Putin must be pursuing this policy intentionally.
                      it is the replacement of the Russians with wordless slaves ...
                      1. Beck
                        Beck 11 December 2013 10: 43
                        -1
                        Quote: 225chay
                        Quote: sleepy
                        living in Russia, in twenty years it will be difficult to read and speak
                        in Russian?...".
                        Putin must be pursuing this policy intentionally.
                        it is the replacement of the Russians with wordless slaves ...


                        Yes, what a cry. Any development does not go straightforward, there are recessions, but the end result is higher and further than the beginning. So in Russia, Russia will survive this recession and not so in its history.

                        And the great Russian people, one of the founders of modern civilization, will not disappear anywhere, will not dissolve, will not sink into obscurity.

                        And in the Russian Federation, the Russians are the titular people. The capital of the Russian Federation is the Russian city of Moscow. Currency - Russian ruble. National language - Russian. The history of 2/3 is the history of the Russian state.
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                  3. Beck
                    Beck 11 December 2013 09: 33
                    -1
                    Quote: sleepy
                    But real personnel policies lead to
                    that by 2020 an additional 25 million jobs will be created for low-skilled migrants. This is in addition to the 10-15 million jobs that are created for them now.


                    So why do some on this page want to immediately evict all migrants when Russian statesmen, in order to develop the Russian economy, plan to increase outside labor attraction.

                    Or do statesmen care more about strangers than about their people? Of course not. They care, as they can, about the prosperity of Russia and they really see that they cannot do without attracting labor migrants.
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              2. Lesnik
                Lesnik 11 December 2013 01: 12
                +4
                Quote: Beck
                that Russia does not have enough workers for rough work

                I'm embarrassed to ask, and since when has the sphere of trade and catering become a "rough job"?
                or is it all about clogged Tajik janitors?
                1. Beck
                  Beck 11 December 2013 11: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Forestman
                  I'm embarrassed to ask, and since when has the sphere of trade and catering become a "rough job"?
                  or is it all about clogged Tajik janitors?


                  And that all millions of migrants are only at the bazaar. Yes, there are not enough bazaars in Russia.
                  1. Lesnik
                    Lesnik 11 December 2013 20: 31
                    0
                    And what will trade and whisper only in the market?
          3. homosum20
            homosum20 10 December 2013 16: 41
            11
            But today at the VO article on increasing the budget of Chechnya next year by 2 billion. And what does the constitution have to do with it? She is the best in the world, but many have a canine life. Do demagoguery, dear.
            1. Eugeniy_369
              Eugeniy_369 10 December 2013 17: 36
              19
              Quote: homosum20
              But today at the VO article on increasing the budget of Chechnya for the next year by 2 billion. And what does the constitution have to do with it? She is the best in the world, but many have a canine life.

              I support. My opinion is BIRYULEVO, PUGACHEV, KONDOPOGA, SAGRA, VESHKI, etc. and now Arzamas is all a manifestation of the degradation of our noneshny power, and the nationalist subtext has nothing to do with it. The impotence of our government, which cannot legalize the nat. minorities, immigrants, diaspora all possible leads to the fact that people on the ground try to protect themselves. Once the responsible workers are either bought or "are preparing for the Olympics" (do not touch the Caucasians until the Olympics are held).

              On December 8, during the first gathering, in which about a hundred people participated, the police chiefs themselves proposed to meet at the police department to tell how the investigation was going.
              On Monday, local residents came to the police department at the appointed 18:00 in the amount of more than a thousand people. It was decided to transfer the meeting to the hall of the Temp Palace. Ignoring the buses provided by the administration, the Arzamas residents staged an unauthorized march to the recreation center, blocking the movement of vehicles.
              The police chiefs invited everyone to go into the hall, but the citizens refused to do this, demanding an answer “here and now”, on the street. They began to go into the hall only after saying a lot of “flattering” words to “United Russia”, the city leadership and the police.
              Having occupied all the empty seats and passages in the hall, the Arzamas greeted the local bosses with shouts of “Shame!” Citizens tried to calm the head of the Department of Internal Affairs of Arzamas, Colonel Emelyanov, a representative of the Nizhny Novgorod SK, acting Colonel Generals, the head of public safety at the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for N / a, the head of the city administration Zhivov and the mayor of Arzamas Buzin
              The speakers of Arzamas severely criticized the city’s law enforcement and judicial systems, expressed extreme dissatisfaction with the corruption that permeated the local government, the coalescence of power and crime of ethnic origin, and the lack of real steps to ensure public safety.
              The proposal of the head of the Arzamas cell of “Other Russia” Dmitry Isusov to dismiss all those on the stage was supported by the audience. The responses of the police chiefs and the investigation did not satisfy them. After the next portion of “noodles on the ears”, about half of those present left the hall.Only a few dozen people remained to listen to the mayor of Buzin. United Russia and one of the richest people in the city, instead of telling the Arzamas how it is going to solve these problems, began to accuse the townspeople that they themselves were to blame for the situation.
              PS And we are always to blame for everything, but the Tsar is good crying .
            2. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 10 December 2013 19: 08
              14
              Quote: homosum20
              But today at VO an article on increasing the budget of Chechnya for the next year by 2 billion
              1. rrrd
                rrrd 10 December 2013 19: 14
                +5
                there was the same situation I am calling everyone in the ring one on one afraid!) so whoever scratches his fists with a well is RESOLVED! In PM!
                1. Beck
                  Beck 10 December 2013 20: 39
                  0
                  Quote: rrrd
                  there was the same situation I am calling everyone in the ring one on one afraid!) so whoever scratches his fists with a well is RESOLVED! In PM!


                  You probably were engaged in martial arts. That is, you have some kind of skills, grade, and therefore "fearlessly" call everyone to fight. Trusting in your skill.

                  But, commonplace truths, beating people for no reason and for any reason is not allowed in any society, even in the primitive. And in order to prove their case, there is mind and language. After all, another person can challenge you to a duel, and it is in that hypostasis in which he was engaged, and you were not engaged. And according to the rules of the yard fight, you should not avoid this, otherwise you are a coward.

                  Example. In my youth I was busy with pentathlon. Therefore, I’m ready to challenge you to cross, come the second will be considered beaten. Or I’m ready to sword with swords (you can do it with your fists) without masks and protective suits, in fact, who will make a fateful flash to someone. Or shoot at the pistols, I stuffed a bunch of glasses from a sports pistol, and in the army, for two years, the Makarov pistol, I dragged it on my buttock. So how is it?

                  This example is that it is stupid and dangerous to clarify your rightness in communication, in discussion, in a dispute by martial arts.
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                      1. rrrd
                        rrrd 10 December 2013 21: 26
                        +6
                        Well, they are far from being good guys (doing something)! I won’t call the driver into the ring. From which nothing will remain there! like an adult! and do wigney !?
                    2. I am a Russian
                      I am a Russian 10 December 2013 21: 28
                      +3
                      Quote: rrrd
                      but there were cases when the so-called "proud horsemen" cast a shadow on my friends! they love to crush people morally! seeing in front of you a weaker morally!


                      Be careful! And good luck to you! good
                  2. rrrd
                    rrrd 10 December 2013 21: 38
                    +7

                    Beck
                    you summarize what in the end I wanted to say !? otherwise I’m leaving for training now! about the fact that I call everyone, not all!
                    whom !? lovers of muscle playing in front of Russians.
                    what for!? I want to show my folk dance "lady bayarynya".
                    Why do I need it !? yes simple. it's a shame.

                    and by the way, who says that all Russian thumps is not true!
                    in our gym, about 100 Russians with classes are trained. you imagine Beck hundred people athletes !? in combat sambo.
                    1. Beck
                      Beck 10 December 2013 22: 02
                      +3
                      Quote: rrrd
                      and by the way, who says that all Russian thumps is not true!


                      I get the impression that these words are most spoken by the Russians themselves.

                      And you have a good workout.
                  3. rrrd
                    rrrd 10 December 2013 21: 49
                    0
                    Well, it starts !? deleting messages!) people will read and not understand what I'm writing to whom I answer!
          4. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 10 December 2013 16: 48
            19
            It's not a secret for anyone for 10 years that 2/3 of violent crimes (the statistics of the Ministry of Internal Affairs itself, namely, according to Kolokoltsev, are committed by persons of non-Slavic nationality, out of 10 Slavs, max 1 or two will have a cold weapon with them, the same Caucasians have 9 out of 10 and that because he forgot it at home. All the last cases were just "Stabbing" And about the constitution, do not screw nonsense, look what a howl starts when at least one non-Slavic woman is cut off, you listen to the Slavs slaughter each other without stopping, heresy I'm sorry, and you don't have to be offended by the normal word natsmen.
      6. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 10 December 2013 14: 06
        +2
        Freedom does not mean will, laws must be respected! hi exactly ! And if not ? then there will be more, it’s even scary to think what might result in ... but note that they try to restore order only for the press, it’s real as it was ....
        1. zennon
          zennon 10 December 2013 18: 32
          +3
          Freedom does not mean will, laws must be respected!

          So they are respected! But they can be written and not written. By writing we are ordinary citizens,SHOULD, and according to the unwritten they are holding power THEY HAVE A RIGHT. So all is well ...
      7. Stanislas
        Stanislas 10 December 2013 14: 25
        +1
        ShturmKGB
        Freedom does not mean will, laws must be respected!

        In order for laws to be respected, and not just to be respected, will is always applied to freedom. At least - in the phase of legal action, optimally - and at the stage of adoption of the law.
      8. Sergey47
        Sergey47 10 December 2013 18: 33
        +2
        And visiting hucksters - first of all!
      9. catapractic
        catapractic 10 December 2013 22: 37
        +1
        with all and especially different migrant workers, they are guests here and not always called. am
    2. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 10 December 2013 13: 12
      -2
      hi on the Maidan I wandered from childhood) without piling mind) oh why did you agree to the guy? oh why did my mother give birth ...... ??? homeless song from the film) complain about it))) (
    3. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 13: 13
      18
      RBLip
      Unfortunately, such slogans have firmly privatized our Nazis ... just as some degenerates discredited the concept of "democracy", "liberal".
      Is it any wonder that interethnic discord and xenophobia on our part (I leave it outside the framework of nationalists of non-Russian nationality) is most actively fueled by the marsh advocates of tolerance, who themselves are no more tolerant of dissenters (those who do not go around foreign embassies for guidance) than the SS to the commissars.
      Is it any wonder that in the swamp, our Natsiks spoke shoulder to shoulder with the liberals and homosexuals ... with the same slogans ...

      Does everyone remember the Russian march? Everyone remembers that those boys in little black that marched there didn’t want to remove the Nazi banners from their ranks themselves?
      Everyone remembers how joyfully all non-Russian Natsiks were excited about this march, proving that all Russian fascists? Even on our site, only a lazy Bandera or other Natsik did not mention that the Nazis walk around our squares, did not post pictures with a swastika and did not use the march as an indulgence for their Russophobia.
      So, alas, the slogan "Russians forward" paraffinized downs in black ... and everything is written correctly in the article.
      1. Normal
        Normal 10 December 2013 14: 18
        18
        Quote: smile
        Unfortunately, such slogans were firmly privatized by our Natsiks ..

        The slogan "Russians Forward!" They did not "privatize" it. They created it. Or have you heard this slogan somewhere not from nationalists, but from the pro-government? Was this slogan actively used by the Power before its "privatization"? Why did you not regret that this slogan is not used by anyone but nationalists?
        Quote: smile

        Is it any wonder that interethnic discord and xenophobia on our part (I leave it outside the framework of nationalists of non-Russian nationality)

        How nice and correct, speaking of ethnic hatred and xenophobia, to leave outside the framework of non-Russian nationalists. After all, it is also known that nationalists are always exclusively RUSSIAN, and Russian guys die from non-Russian knives exclusively in everyday conflicts.
        Quote: smile
        it is the marsh advocates of tolerance that most actively incite

        Of course of course! But what else! All who are not devilish when non-Russians kill another Russian, all who believe that without pressure from the population on law enforcement officers will not move, all who think that non-Russians will certainly try to pay off and avoid responsibility are marsh advocates of tolerance.
        In Kandopog and Pugachev, Biryulev and Demyanovo, Sagra and on Manezhnaya, even in the metro train approaching the Nagornaya station and at the Prague cinema, everywhere we have Bolotnaya! Well, and the State Department, of course, where would it be without him!
        1. smile
          smile 10 December 2013 14: 58
          +9
          Normal
          Do not worry so much when it comes to non-Russian Natsik they get even more from me - you can tell our colleagues from Kazakhstan to Estonia. who call me the Russian chauvinist ... :)))) Beck’s comment flashed through him, he won’t let me lie :). It’s just that in this case it was about the unrest in our country.
          And who are the Caucasian fascists, I know very well. Even better than I would like. And the fact that Russian nationalism arose as a response to Russophobia. I am also aware of discrimination and mass crimes against Russians in the republics. But now it was a question of the fact that our radical nationalists are contributing to the collapse of multinational Russia ... therefore I spoke specifically about these scum of our society.
          I answered all the rest in other comments on this thread, too lazy to repeat.
          1. Beck
            Beck 10 December 2013 15: 19
            +1
            Quote: smile
            There’s Beck’s comment; he won’t let me lie


            Yes, I am surprised at the commentary Smila in response to the call to the Russians of a certain EvilLion (below) to shoot all the suspicious non-Russians on the spot.
            1. smile
              smile 10 December 2013 16: 17
              +1
              Beck
              Beck, I’m going to take offense at you now :))) Why are you surprised - I never pass by such statements of brainless fascists of any nation, including Russian.
              1. Beck
                Beck 10 December 2013 16: 28
                +1
                Quote: smile
                Beck, I’m going to take offense at you now


                This is called communication. Like if you communicate for a long time, even in an unpleasant way, then in the end there will be common ground.
                1. smile
                  smile 10 December 2013 17: 17
                  +4
                  Beck
                  Yes I don’t agree? :))) We quarreled with you so much, with Marek Rozna, Smersh, that we became like relatives:))) ... I, for one, have not a bit of hostility, and I say this absolutely seriously.
    4. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 10 December 2013 13: 32
      +9
      "Immediately after the murder, from 50 to 300 residents of Arzamas went to a 'people's gathering' on the Cathedral Square of the city. The head of the city administration and the head of the city police came to them. After talking with the officials, the assembled dispersed without any disturbance of public order,"
      But the gopniks did not disperse, figase, such a reason to rage! And the soul rushed to paradise-shop-windows! It is necessary to plant such "fighters" - they do not need justice, they need a REASON under a beautiful slogan!
    5. Bort radist
      Bort radist 10 December 2013 14: 46
      14
      Quote: RBLip
      ..screaming "Russians forward!" and other nationalist slogans.
      . quite moved with their tolerance already ...

      "Anti-fascists fascists
      always won
      Here is a Russian
      with a shot head.
      For his part, the conflict
      was national
      With the opposite
      sides - household. "
      Emelin
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 10 December 2013 19: 19
        +7
        Quote: Bort Radist
        Fascist anti-fascists
        always won
        Here is a Russian
        with a shot head.
        For his part, the conflict
        was national
        With the opposite
        parties - household
    6. larsky1
      larsky1 10 December 2013 16: 00
      15
      and what, "Russians forward!" are these already nationalist slogans?
      it means that in Sochi only nationalists will go to root for Russia ..
    7. Nick
      Nick 10 December 2013 16: 37
      +3
      Quote: RBLip
      "Russians forward!" and other nationalist slogans.

      One thing can be said, insanity zhurnalyug grows stronger ...
    8. ABV
      ABV 10 December 2013 18: 23
      +3
      indeed, as if we were screaming - beat the Jews, we will not beat anyone simply - in front!
    9. ABV
      ABV 10 December 2013 18: 23
      0
      indeed, as if we were screaming - beat the Jews, we will not beat anyone simply - in front!
    10. vezunchik
      vezunchik 10 December 2013 19: 40
      +3
      so they write as the owners order. It is beneficial for someone to continue to expose Russian bandits ...
  2. RUSS
    RUSS 10 December 2013 12: 51
    +3
    Soon, he may grimace all over the country.
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 10 December 2013 12: 55
      +9
      Quote: RUSS
      Soon, he may grimace all over the country.

      yes. it looks like this moment is getting closer and closer.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 10 December 2013 13: 03
        0
        We already had two "ears" in the last century with the civil war, devastation and dismemberment of the great country.
        The instigators for 15 years without amnesty with complete confiscation to plant, so that even such thoughts did not arise. And to return censorship in the media, the sooner the better.
      2. Gennady1973
        Gennady1973 10 December 2013 13: 05
        +9
        A local resident died in a fight with Azerbaijanis in a Voronezh cafe



        In the cafe of Voronezh there was a fight between local residents and citizens of Azerbaijan. As a result of the stabbing, one person died, four more are in the hospital.




        More ...

        Published 21 hours ago EuroSMI - European Information and Analytical Newspaper (Russia)
        Categories: Society / Crime
        It will definitely die. We in Voronezh is not the first case .... and probably not the last .....
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    2. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 13: 17
      +4
      RUSS
      RBLip

      Of course, Caucasian extremists and our probable friends in the West are really looking forward to this ... and bring this day closer as they can ... along with some hydrocephalus, who do not understand that they are destroying our Motherland .... but I think neither they nor you will not wait
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 10 December 2013 13: 31
        17
        Quote: smile
        . together with some hydrocephalus, who do not understand that they are destroying our Motherland .... but I think neither they nor you will wait

        Our homeland is not destroyed by people who go to gatherings, but by those who sit in the Kremlin, who sit in the regional administrations, those who sit in the Duma, spanking worthless laws. The reason for all this is in politics pursued by the authorities, and the speeches are just a consequence.
        1. smile
          smile 10 December 2013 13: 55
          0
          baltika-18
          Oh, just do not need demagoguery - it is clear that we are not all right. but if the Kremlin had a desire to finish off the state, Putin would simply continue the policy of the elbon country, and so would be on the verge of collapse, and we would write comments to each other from different state entities ... if there was electricity ...

          And the Nazis - which are the lumpen, organizing the pogroms, is just one of the forces that. along with the extremists of the Caucasus and others, swamp, etc. used to attempt to destroy Russia. Tell me. Will a normal person just go to destroy whatever he gets, beat or kill, who gets under the arm and rob, if possible? And such "fighters" are just that. And there is no need to offend the people, exposing these scumbags as the spokesman for the people's anger - it's not the people, it's the dregs of society.
          And it’s time to pay attention to how standard slogans are in all countries without exception that have been exposed to the orange plague, how similarly “popular anger” is aroused by the same technologies ... Do you wish us the same? So that in a dozen years sitting on the ruins of the country to suffer about how good it was in not yet collapsed Russia, how are we now (and myself) suffering in the Union?
          It's time to grow up .....
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 10 December 2013 14: 23
            18
            Quote: smile
            And Natsik - which are the lumpen

            And who made them like that? Ever thought? Or became a lord? And so they are, cattle?
            Quote: smile
            this is not the people, this is the scum of society

            I repeat the question: Tell me, who made them like that? And what (now on you) do you have the right to call someone the scum of society?
            Quote: smile
            are we now (including myself) suffering in the Union?

            Do you suffer about the Union? And you call people scum.
            The USSR remember this is not only the Union, but primarily the Soviets and Socialism.
            Quote: smile
            if the Kremlin had a desire to finish off the state, Putin would simply continue the policy of the elbon

            And he continues it. It’s just that without the state he’s no one to call him in any way, and he and his guys can lose their acquired overpowering at once. It drives corporate interest, and they don’t give a damn who will bring them Russian or Tajik profit (etc. )
            So the cutest fan of the power vertical
            Quote: smile
            It's time to grow up
            1. smile
              smile 10 December 2013 15: 15
              -3
              baltika-18
              Under the Union, people who organized pogroms would be in prison and would not be called anything but garbage ... Forgot?
              If they are not garbage, then brainless barran, which is not far from the original name.
              A normal person, even outraged, cannot go smashing and beating anyone without getting into, and at the same time rob, that he succeeds.
              The question is who made them like that? Who made Chikatilo like that? Who made the Armenian militants who committed an explosion in the subway in the eighties? Who made the Chechens who captured the Russians into slavery already in perestroika? Who made tens of thousands of killers, robbers and robbers who committed a crime in Soviet times? Soviet authority?
              Enough of demagoguery, it's time to think with your head, and not with your heart muscle.

              In the end, I will not be too lazy to ask a question that all whistleblowers, without exception, were ashamed of - well, who, in your opinion, should have been in the Kremlin? Who would have done better? And then the vast majority of those. who shouts the loudest "Down with!" brains end up working on a valuable thought, that's how Putin will be thrown off and all happiness will come to us ... Be kind. answer the question ... very curious how you will dodge ... :)))

              I leave personal attacks unattended; they do not snag me.
              1. uhjpysq1
                uhjpysq1 10 December 2013 16: 02
                +6
                Lukashenko Kremlin
                1. smile
                  smile 10 December 2013 16: 27
                  0
                  uhjpysq1
                  My God .... how stereotyped and wretched thinking you have like, mentioning the term "chock" and "churkestan". Even a child, if he has brains, understands that I meant a real candidacy of a real person who could take the presidency and expressed a desire to participate in the elections .. and not your sexual fantasies.

                  Old Man is a normal man, and if he defended the interests of Russia as zealously as Belarus (including Russia), then we would definitely not get any worse ... but under the laws of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus he does not have the right to be elected with us , and did not declare that he wants to become president of the Russian Federation.
                  All. Alles.
                  If you have something to say, really say it. If you are going to continue to clog the ether, it is better not to.
              2. baltika-18
                baltika-18 10 December 2013 16: 25
                11
                Quote: smile
                Enough of demagoguery, it's time to think with your head, and not with your heart muscle.

                You are also very much concerned. You are probably a citizen like Henry Alfred Kissinger. An old cunning Jew, the son of a rabbi, a man from the Rockefeller clan. How many times did he meet with Putin?
                July 13, 2001, the Kremlin, Putin "the main task is to fit Russia into the world community."
                September 26, 2003. Putin visiting Kissinger at his home.
                March 2, 2004, Putin "I am looking forward to a deep conversation, just like in New York."
                February 12, 2005, Putin "We have mutual friends, Mr. Kissinger." I wonder who?
                June 6, 2006, Putin "we understand each other and find a compromise."
                December 2008, talks in Moscow on nuclear disarmament.
                March 19, 2009, no statements.
                January 20, 2012, Kissinger "Putin is a Russian patriot." Quite a strange statement by a hardened politician.
                Note that all these years, under the leadership of Putin, Russia has been intensively reforming: education, housing and public utilities, healthcare, the army. And everywhere, notice from the point of view of the people it is extremely unsuccessful.
                Received and reported instructions? Or is he just friends with an old Jew and loves him?
                Henry Alfred has an unconventional sexual orientation, but Vladimir Vladimirovich is a married man (he was). what
                1. Garrin
                  Garrin 10 December 2013 17: 16
                  +6
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  Note that all these years, under the leadership of Putin, Russia has been intensively reforming: education, housing and public utilities, healthcare, the army. And everywhere, notice from the point of view of the people it is extremely unsuccessful.

                  Good evening, Nikolai! hi
                  "Extremely unsuccessful", as you do it softly and streamlined. I would say that the totality of these reforms is comparable to the genocide of the Russian people. And this will not be an exaggeration.
                  1. baltika-18
                    baltika-18 10 December 2013 18: 56
                    +7
                    Quote: Garrin
                    "Extremely unsuccessful", as you do it softly and streamlined. I would say that the totality of these reforms is comparable to the genocide of the Russian people

                    Greetings, Igor! hi This is what I would not greatly smile.

                    And so ..... you are right, genocide is.
                2. smile
                  smile 10 December 2013 17: 27
                  -3
                  baltika-18
                  Don't you know? that the powerful of this world, even hostile to each other, but forced to coexist, are usually found ... for example, to divide the spheres of influence ... I also normally and regularly communicate with guys who are shitty about Russia and the Russians - we argue, we prove our case and in some places we agree. And I recognize them as patriots of my homeland. We correspond with some ... oh, I just remembered that I had not answered the letter to the Estonian "Well, yeah" ... so what, will you write me down as an enemy of the people now?

                  Hints of the homosexuality of some of those with whom the President should communicate on duty, generally do not climb into any gates, let alone their nationality ... :))) I consider it as unsuccessful humor ... why don’t you think that Putin, on the contrary, gives them instructions and listens to reports? And what - the reliability of this opinion is no higher than what you expressed. :))) Yeah, and the Jews are agitating to switch to Orthodoxy ... :)))
                  1. baltika-18
                    baltika-18 10 December 2013 18: 53
                    +5
                    Quote: smile
                    We correspond with some ... oh, I just remembered that I had not answered the letter to the Estonian "Well, yeah" ... so what, will you write me down as an enemy of the people now?

                    Why? You are not the president.
                    Quote: smile
                    . why don't you think that Putin, on the contrary, gives them instructions and listens to reports?

                    I would love to think so. But based on what kind of train we are in, I tend to think differently.
                    Everything is considered in a complex.
                3. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 12 December 2013 14: 20
                  0
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  Kissinger "Putin is a Russian patriot." Quite a strange statement by a hardened politician.

                  I would not be "hard-core", I would say like others: "Putin is the enemy of Russia," and we would answer in chorus: "Since they are scolding, then Putin is doing everything right."
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  All these years, under the leadership of Putin, Russia has been intensively reforming: education, housing and communal services, healthcare, the army. And everywhere, notice from the point of view of the people it is extremely unsuccessful.
                  Not extremely. Reforms in these areas were extremely unsuccessful in the 90s, now they have already moved away from that edge, but not yet "a fountain". Blaming Putin for everything is not difficult, easier than comparing and analyzing. It's like "Spring has passed, summer has come. Thanks to the party for this!", Only with a minus sign: "Putin is personally to blame for the problem." As soon as a politician appears who puts forward not only beautiful and correct slogans, but also sane programs for their implementation, I will vote and support him, but for now I support Putin, because opposing him now means pushing the country towards collapse.
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              4. sleepy
                sleepy 11 December 2013 01: 45
                +1
                Quote: smile
                "In the end, I will not be too lazy to ask a question that all whistleblowers, without exception, were ashamed of - good,
                who do you think should be in the Kremlin?
                Who would have done better? .. ".


                Sergey Kuzhugetovich Shoigu,
                Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov,
                Sergey Vadimovich Stepashin.
                Maintaining the course in a general direction and deleting
                especially snickering close.

                Governors:
                Anatoly Artamonov - Kaluga Region,
                Evgeny Savchenko - Belgorod Region. Strong business executives who have proven their professional competence and ability to manage the economy.

                Generals:
                Yuri Baluevsky,
                Vladimir Kolokoltsev.
                The completion of high-profile cases, the destruction of corruption, the planting of thieves.

                Athletes:
                Fedor Emelianenko.
                Why not? We now have a judoka president.
                And here the Great fighter with charisma, faith in the soul and authority among athletes not only in the country, but also in the world, Emelianenko.

                Ramzan Kadyrov.
                The experience of a business executive, knowledge of military affairs, Hero of Russia. In 10 years, he will have much more supporters for objective reasons.

                PS That's just Svyatoslav Slava Fedorov sorry.
                He also ran for.
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            2. soldier's grandson
              soldier's grandson 10 December 2013 16: 05
              -3
              garbage always consider people to be garbage
              1. smile
                smile 10 December 2013 16: 32
                0
                soldier's grandson
                All criminals - that is, people who have been convicted of dishonest, immoral and unlawful behavior, causing mainly harm to normal citizens. their lives, dignity and property - they are called law enforcement officers - garbage. Are you one of them?
                All normal people consider those who are involved in pogroms. robberies, beatings of the first, innocent people who came across - wastes. which they are ... to become a pogromist, one must be pathological, unworthy of the high rank of "man".
                1. soldier's grandson
                  soldier's grandson 10 December 2013 16: 38
                  +2
                  not only competitors but also those who have already worked in law enforcement agencies also use this word
                  1. smile
                    smile 10 December 2013 17: 28
                    0
                    soldier's grandson
                    There is such a thing - this is a manifestation of such a phenomenon. which is called "professional deformation".
                    1. soldier's grandson
                      soldier's grandson 10 December 2013 17: 55
                      +2
                      most people are deformed when they start working in the garbage shop, there are many examples, and the fact that half of my posts have been deleted I can still write, I can remember them, you see the truth I’m very afraid
                      1. smile
                        smile 10 December 2013 18: 32
                        +1
                        soldier's grandson
                        1. I do not know what a "musarnya" is.
                        2. I am not involved in the deletion of your posts, I do not have the authority to do so, although I believe that they are dear there.
                        3. All people without exception are subject to professional deformation; this depends on the type of human activity. Google what it is, then you will not write nonsense later.
                        4. Judging by how you relate to law enforcement, you have personal unpleasant experiences associated with them. Have you been delayed or maybe made accountable? I can’t say that I sympathize. :)))
                        Or are you a victim of werewolves in uniform? As I understand it, they bit you, and that’s why you behave that way. :)))
                    2. Stanislas
                      Stanislas 12 December 2013 14: 38
                      0
                      Quote: smile
                      "professional deformation"

                      By the way: Are you, for an hour, a psychologist? This is a professionally deformed workshop: there is not a single issue, the opinions of different psychologists on which would not be sharply divided into mutually exclusive; chew on Western theories that the West has long since spit out; always support the most liberal initiatives; instead of exacerbating the problem in order to understand its essence, they always psychologize and gloss over everything under the pretext "guys, let's live together!"; they broadcast nonsense with an important air and never answer for anything (unlike socially close teachers and doctors); label everyone, encouraging everyone to refrain from labeling. Forgive me for being off-topic, but I really do not like being taken away from the essence of the issue.
                2. uhjpysq1
                  uhjpysq1 10 December 2013 16: 52
                  +1
                  into the furnace your tolerant delirium. which innocent? you fell from the moon or something. never seen conflicts with black was not seen. and what about the garbage. I have not met anyone among them who can be called "Man". Namely with a capital letter.
                  1. smile
                    smile 10 December 2013 17: 45
                    +3
                    uhjpysq1
                    That is, you believe that a person is guilty only because he has a different skin color, eye shape, nose or surname? Why is he only worse than you?
                    You are a fascist, sir, I offer my condolences to your parents - they did not manage to raise their son as a man ... even with a small letter.
                    And the fact that you did not manage to meet people in the police ... this is no wonder - with such a worldview .... your cow is being eaten up in a ravine ...
                    Here, b ... survived .... our grandfathers were internationalists and could not think that the brown infection that they destroyed would take root from us ... you spat them all in the soul.

                    And I had conflicts with people from the Caucasus ... and those about which you only watch on TV. But, unlike you, I know that among them there are no less than among us normal people ... and people with a capital letter, too.
                    1. uhjpysq1
                      uhjpysq1 10 December 2013 18: 00
                      -1
                      they are all strangers, which means they are a priori hostile to us.)) go live in the Caucasus)) in the same Chechnya))) there you will quickly fly off an intelligent gloss))) with your head
                      1. Normal
                        Normal 10 December 2013 20: 16
                        0
                        Quote: uhjpysq1
                        go live in the Caucasus

                        smile was there. I ran from there to gardens - they nearly killed me. Since then, he has been preaching friendship between the peoples of the Kaliningrad region. Very comfortably.
                      2. smile
                        smile 10 December 2013 22: 07
                        -1
                        Normal
                        Vladimir, you obviously read my comment, where I slightly described some events of my life ....
                        I’m wondering, but you would have entered into a fight with several Chechens, who unexpectedly for you were armed with melee weapons ... in Chechnya ... I don’t remember already, it seems 90 years ... in a village where there are no Russians, besides you ... and you remember how old I was, right? It’s even more interesting, wouldn’t you, how do you say, “ran through the gardens” from there, having a through hole in your thigh, and knowing that tomorrow they will be beaten to death by the crowd or simply beaten for your broken noses and ribs? I wonder how you were when you were 18-19? You would have smashed the whole village there and returned home on a white horse, right?
                        Also, for some reason, you forgot that I still came back, although not quite there ...
                        Frankly, I am surprised by your reasoning about how "very convenient" I am ....

                        Normal, I previously thought that due to either age or stupidity, you are simply obsessed with the idea of ​​fixation, but otherwise your head works ... now I see that you are a narrow-minded limited person, who personally never risked anything especially anywhere. ... it's even disgusting to argue with you ... Be healthy. :)))
                      3. Normal
                        Normal 10 December 2013 23: 14
                        +6
                        Quote: smile
                        Vladimir, you obviously read my comment, where I slightly described some events of my life ...

                        Конечно.
                        Quote: smile
                        I’m wondering, but you’d have come to grips with several Chechens who suddenly turned out to be armed with knives .... in Chechnya ... I don’t remember already, it seems 90 years old .... in a village where there are no Russians, except you ... and you remember how old I was, right?

                        No, of course I wouldn’t. I ended up in Kabardino-Balkaria at the age of 16 and received a lesson in Caucasian hospitality there (both positive and negative), as well as an example of the fact that one can hardly always rely on a Russian in a critical situation. Since then I know what Caucasians are and what to expect from them.
                        But I had to come to grips with a group of ardent guests from Transcaucasia here, in the Moscow Region, in those same 18 years. It was night and I was alone. Unfortunately for them, I was suddenly armed with knives. Otherwise, I would probably not communicate with you now.
                        There is nothing shameful or even surprising in what happened to you in the Caucasus. Another thing surprises and outrages. You consistently oppose the unity and self-awareness of Russians. You, having received the lesson of "friendship of the people", did not understand anything and constantly talk about some kind of multinational Russia, while the percentage of Russians in the country's population is unambiguously considered a mono-ethnic population.
                        You consciously take the side of national minorities here in Russia, knowing what happened to the Russians in Chechnya and Central Asia.
                        God is your judge.
                        Quote: smile
                        Normal, I previously thought that by virtue of either age

                        I am older than you.
                        Quote: smile
                        either stupidity

                        I also have a very high opinion of your mental abilities and character.
                        Quote: smile
                        Now I see that you are a narrow-minded limited person,

                        As you know, the assessments we give to people characterize not only these people, but ourselves, our habits, preferences and preferences.
                        Quote: smile
                        .Be healthy.

                        Have a nice one you too.
                      4. smile
                        smile 11 December 2013 00: 26
                        -1
                        Normal
                        I did not expect that I would answer you. You were able to surprise again ... :))) One gets the impression that two different people wrote these two comments - the one who wrote the deliberate half-truth, which is worse than a lie:

                        "I fled from there with vegetable gardens - I was almost killed. Since then, he has been preaching friendship among peoples from the Kaliningrad region. Very convenient." - this is the one who is really limited, and narrow-minded person.

                        The second comment is completely different ..... how to explain it? Unclear.
                        I’ll answer this second one :)))
                        1. The hope does not leave me that Russia will still be able to become a unifier of lands, which was RI, and then the USSR. The country received the maximum level of development precisely during the USSR, this also applies to its human potential. Under internationalism.
                        With the absolute equality of all citizens of any nationality.

                        2. With the growth of national intolerance and xenophobia, there can be no talk of any accession to our territories ... for no reason.

                        3. A surge of nationalism occurred in perestroika times, followed by a surge of separatism. The result is the collapse of the country. The fascization of society will only strengthen centrifugal forces, separatism, nailed for a while, will only increase - this is the prospect of destroying Russia as a single state - and it is quite real. Indeed, if it weren’t for nationalism, even the USSR would not have collapsed, no matter what the comrades threw out of the Central Committee.

                        4. Please do not misinterpret my words and actions. I am a supporter of Russian patriotism. And ardent. But what is growing in our country, those in little black that are dragging the swastika on the Russian march, those scum who joyfully try to pogrom anyone, under any pretext, are not patriots - they have a sign of patriotism - screaming, damn it .. .x, h..ok, - this is where their fantasy ends ... oh yes, I forgot, they still demand Putin’s resignation in the swamp - and I didn’t lie, I personally saw their flags on numerous commercials, along with the pederast’s flags ... they aren’t capable of anything else ... it’s precisely against this that I vehemently object, since these in a black little death are trance.
                        And I do not stand on the side of the national minorities of Russia against the Russians, I stand on the side of the normal people of Russia against the Natsiks.
                        Or, in your opinion, we are obliged to do with non-Russians in the same way as we did in Chechnya, Tajikistan. Baltic States, etc. ... and then what will we be better than them? Let’s then correct the mistake of the unreasonable grandfathers and kill all the Germans, cut out the Finns - (as they did, we’ll flood Mongolia with napalm, cut the Caucasus mountains and drop the atomic bomb on Turkey, after having taken away all the Crimean Tatars from Ukraine and enslaved .... who will we be then, patriots, or worse?
                        If you call for the same actions, as we suppose, the Chechens did, then you have no moral right to condemn them ...

                        These are the things .... And I came to this opinion because I saw a lot and understand. what radical nationalism can lead to - for example, in the Baltic states I was a second-class man - they called us worse than come in large numbers - as a result I grew up as a Baltophobe and an ardent Russian patriot - and if you put all non-Russians in Russia into second-class people - as Lithuanians, you will receive a total frenzied Russophobia of those people with whom you could build a strong Russia. And in comparison with this, their current attitude towards us will seem like a fairy tale.
                        And my mom and dad raised me so that I should take the side of the humiliated and offended without first looking at them in my passport. And it's too late to redo me. Yes, and I do not want ... :))))
                      5. Normal
                        Normal 11 December 2013 01: 20
                        +2
                        Quote: smile
                        it's too late for me to redo.

                        We disagree on many issues of principle. I do not leave hope to prove to you my correctness and fallacy of many of your installations. But today it's time to sleep.
                        I will answer now only this:
                        Quote: smile
                        . With the growth of national intolerance and xenophobia, there can be no talk of any accession to our territories ... for no reason

                        Territories joined either by force of arms or in a situation where non-accession to Russia threatened extermination from third forces.
                        If Svyatoslav the Brave had not physically destroyed the Khazar Khaganate (that is, in modern terms, showed national intolerance and xenophobia), would Russia now exist?
                      6. sleepy
                        sleepy 11 December 2013 02: 01
                        0
                        Quote:
                        "After all, if it were not for nationalism, even the USSR would not have collapsed, no matter what the comrades threw out of the Central Committee ...".


                        These "comrades" from the Central Committee under the leadership of M. Gorbachev threw out such things that not a fairy tale to say, but it is better to read.

                        Stepan Sulakshin. Treason.
                        "In the book - a study of a famous Russian politician
                        and the scientist studied the condition real mechanism of government in Russia in the 90s
                        Persons and clans are shown, roles, interests and motives of actions of the actual leader are revealed
                        and country leadership.
                        The loss of state sovereignty of Russia is proved.
                        Described in detail professionally planned, global and focused on
                        implementation of national security, US national interests and their satellite countries, control mechanism Russia from abroad.
                        Tear open true results, focus and ultimate goals of Russian reforms. A large volume of exclusive documents and certificates is given ...
                        The book may be useful to political scientists, social scientists, students, practicing politicians.
                        It is addressed to all citizens of Russia. "
                        http://lib.ru/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt

                        And blaming everything on nationalism is very convenient to justify.
                        In the film "Sideburns" by Yuri Mamin it was shown
                        how nationalists are used and then thrown away
                        to the landfill of history.
                        So it is not the nationalists who need to be afraid.
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        2. Beck
          Beck 10 December 2013 17: 07
          +6
          Quote: smile
          All criminals - that is, people who have been convicted of dishonest, immoral and unlawful behavior, causing mainly damage to normal citizens. their lives, dignity and property - they are called law enforcement officers - garbage.


          I can add one. I am surprised by the attitude of many, as if normal people, to the thieves' song. They empathize with the whining howl of criminals, that life is hard, that the fate of the villain, that bitterly bites me behind the barbed wire.

          And such sympathizers do not think that it was these thieves who committed or will commit the murder of your loved one, steal or take away the last money from a pensioner, and commit violence against your child. And when they deservedly get into jail, they will be crying, to be pitied, howl about their share.
          1. smile
            smile 10 December 2013 17: 31
            +4
            Beck
            In this regard, you and I are like-minded people, I am allergic to this whining of beaten jackals, who, being strong, will happily cling to the throat of their neighbor. And with what zeal they give up their "colleagues" to bargain for some indulgences ... ugh. dirty trick ... without honor and conscience ...
          2. FRIGATE2
            FRIGATE2 11 December 2013 03: 01
            +1
            Quote: Beck
            I can add one. I am surprised by the attitude of many, as if normal people, to the thieves' song. They empathize with the whining howl of criminals, that life is hard, that the fate of the villain, that bitterly bites me behind the barbed wire.

            And such sympathizers do not think that it was these thieves who committed or will commit the murder of your loved one, steal or take away the last money from a pensioner, and commit violence against your child. And when they deservedly get into jail, they will be crying, to be pitied, howl about their share.

            Especially how they relate in Russia, make films, series about it, take at least the latest Jap, Legends of the Oval.
            Does this mean once again that thieves are in power in Russia?
            In all the central channels this topic is slipping, especially on the Mentovy MentTV itself, oh sorry now PentTV.
            I don’t understand guys older than myself when they listen and talk about how cool Sasha Severny is. Well, how can you feel sorry and compassion for such a person who robbed ordinary citizens, threatened, sold drugs, attacked?
        3. A. Yaga
          A. Yaga 10 December 2013 17: 09
          +1
          Quote: smile
          garbage. which they are ... to become a pogromist, one must be pathological, unworthy of the high rank of "man".

          But in homosexual-liberal-tolerant countries such people are called "desperate", unless of course they are Slavs and crush the Slavs. If on the contrary, then of course, you are right along with the tolerasts.
          1. smile
            smile 10 December 2013 17: 51
            -2
            A. Yaga
            Eh, no. I believe that what we have and what they have are pogrom-mongers - but it is you, together with the "homosexual-liberal-liberal-olerasts", who apply double standards and evaluate the pogrom-makers depending on your political predilections. Congratulations - your place is among them.
            Not in vain at the Swamp Fascists and homosexuals showed touching unanimity, shoulder to shoulder demanding the overthrow of the totalitarian bad Putin.
            The attempt is not counted - try again. :))))
            1. A. Yaga
              A. Yaga 10 December 2013 18: 53
              +1
              Quote: smile
              Congratulations - among them is your place
              fellow
              Quote: smile
              The attempt is not counted - try again. :))))
              smile
              Quote: smile
              totalitarian bad Putin.
              what
              The logic of the "Kashchenko" client. I am God and teacher! And we will gently pat Putin. good drinks
              1. smile
                smile 10 December 2013 20: 34
                -1
                A. Yaga
                Ma'am, I'm sorry, I didn’t immediately pay attention to your gender ... otherwise I would talk softer with you ... :)))
                Well what can you answer ... it's just logic ... you know? LOGIC .... :))) in this statement of mine there are no contradictions (if you found them, you would indicate) ... to admit, I was surprised that, with rare exceptions, girls visiting the site have an enviable level of intelligence development - on average , for some reason higher than that of most men .... in any case, here I have not yet met the manifestation of the notorious "female logic" ... :)))
                Alas, your reference to Kashchenko and the first comment, in which for some reason you tried to attribute me to tolerasts, getting confused in your own argumentation, by its illogicality makes me remember about anecdotes about "women's logic" ... forgive me generously.
                In compensation, let me let you know that there are a sufficient number of men who are even less logical than you — for example, those who call for smashing police stations, which means killing Russians in the hope that this will greatly protect Russians from Caucasians .... by compared with those you Cicero. It would be better if they simply hinted unreasonably that I am crazy, how you do it. But it’s excusable to you .... :)))

                Will you make more attempts? :)))
            2. Normal
              Normal 10 December 2013 20: 21
              +7
              Quote: smile
              Not in vain at Bolotnaya, fascists and homosexuals showed touching unanimity, shoulder to shoulder

              What are you breaching, smile? You were not there, how do you know? Are you repeating the pro-government, liberal Echo of Moscow and TV channels?
              1. rrrd
                rrrd 10 December 2013 20: 34
                +5
                I can’t even imagine skins and homosexuals! that go side by side! fantasies do not hold! smiley
              2. rrrd
                rrrd 10 December 2013 20: 39
                +1
                In Moymu he writes from the Kremlin! all I can’t wait for its outcome! already 10 cups of tea filled! smile
              3. smile
                smile 10 December 2013 21: 20
                -6
                Normal
                What, nerves hand over? :))) Drink some water, it will feel better. The fact that there were both fascists and homosexuals on the marsh was evidenced by the banners that the "protestants" waved .... really, know when to stop ... sssssudar.
                Moreover, all liberal channels are against the Government, and just for liberals like you. fascists and homosexuals ... al do not remember who were the leaders of the rally? Have you forgotten? :)))
                And I beg you, keep yourself within. If I start to answer you in your language and it will be unpleasant for me, and it offends you .... so what is it? :)))
              4. Normal
                Normal 10 December 2013 22: 26
                +5
                Quote: smile
                What, nerves give up?

                Do not wait.
                Quote: smile
                The fact that there were both fascists and homosexuals on the marsh was evidenced by the banners waving "Protestants" ...

                Well, post pictures where on the swamp flags of the Nazis. And even more so where nationalists with homosexuals "shoulder to shoulder"
                Quote: smile
                know the measure ... lender.

                Calm, smile, only calm. Nerve cells are not restored.
                I know something to the best of my ability and I’m not mistreating what I didn’t see with my own eyes, unlike you.
                Quote: smile
                Al do not remember who were the leaders of the rally? Have you forgotten? :)))

                No, I didn’t forget, and you never knew. You are carrying pro-government pro-nonsense bullshit after the liberal pro-Putin media. You have a third-party picture, which is why it is not complete and deceitful.
                Quote: smile
                If I start to answer you in your language and it will be unpleasant for me, and it offends you .... so what is it? :)))

                Don’t flirt, smile. If you will answer me in my language, and not repeat lies after pro-authority professional nonsense, then we can communicate quite normally.
                The offer has been completely deleted by the moderator. These are your expressions, not mine:
                Quote: smile
                ... just for liberals like you. fascists and homosexuals.

                Quote: smile
                garbage

                Quote: smile
                on the Swamp fascists and homosexuals

                Quote: smile
                If they are not scum, then brainless barran

                Quote: smile
                this is not the people, this is the scum of society.

                Quote: smile
                some degenerates

                Quote: smile
                Natsiks stood shoulder to shoulder with the liberals and homosexuals.

                Quote: smile
                Look at the composition of the Protestants, a wild mixture of fascists, liberals, homosexuals and don’t understand anyone ...

                And after that you write to me:
                Quote: smile
                And I beg you, keep yourself within.

                You haven’t messed up anything, dear?
                Go and wash your eyes, mouth and hands ... with soap, preferably.
              5. FRIGATE2
                FRIGATE2 12 December 2013 06: 36
                +1
                Quote: Normal
                Go and wash your eyes, mouth and hands ... with soap, preferably.

                Smile reminds me of a character from the Internet, his name is Vatnik.

                What you describe exactly in both Vatnik and DeSmayla
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 10 December 2013 18: 02
        +1
        Quote: A. Yaga
        If vice versa

        By the way, you justified your nickname. laughing
        1. A. Yaga
          A. Yaga 10 December 2013 19: 10
          +3
          Quote: Apollon
          By the way, you justified your nickname. laughing

          I gave you a plus.
          I am glad, because Baba Yaga, in my opinion, is the fairest goddess in the pantheon of gods, helping those who seek the truth: feed him a drink, tell him a prompt, give a glomerulus and his assistants for safety. He does not suffer from megalomania - he does not consider himself a goddess of beauty.
          A. Yaga - everything else is my initials, not fictitious
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 11 December 2013 01: 39
            +1
            Quote: A. Yaga
            A. Yaga - everything else is my initials

            And if we "simplify" the Romano-Hellenic name of Antonin to the affectionately simple Tonya, we get - "Pull". hi love
  3. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 10 December 2013 17: 00
    +1
    those who don’t want to work go there. Who was beaten at school. Who wants to use their official position. The power to enjoy. A garbage-speaking nickname.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 10 December 2013 13: 41
    +4
    smile.
    Personally, I do not expect pogroms, but the trend speaks differently.
    And we don’t have to look for enemies in the West, we have enough of our own, those who benefit from destabilization and those who allow all of today's chaos.
    1. rrrd
      rrrd 10 December 2013 13: 56
      +3
      totally agree with you. wrote above.
    2. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 14: 07
      -1
      RUSS
      Can you imagine at least one of the forces that benefits from destabilization in Russia, which the secret services of our potential friends would not want to control? At least through NGOs. You should not be naive - there is a usual, familiar to them, systematic work. Therefore, I am not looking for enemies in the West - they themselves came long ago and have been working for a long time. To deny this is to accommodate the perestroika who shouted that the West is a peace-lover, and we are aggressive and bad ... We got to the bottom, looked into the goat's face of the "partners" ... not enough? Do you need a second episode?

      As for those who allow such events, our authorities, not having developed a normal national policy and reacting to crises late, really do not quite cope with the situation - and this allows some people to use any criminal case to inflate to riots .... but you compare with the situation during perestroika - when the authorities allowed mass pogroms with hundreds of corpses ... in comparison with them, the current authorities show miracles of professionalism.
      And the pogromists, any need to be ruthlessly imprisoned for the maximum time, as well as those who were the reason for the riots, not embarrassed of imputing ethnic hatred.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 10 December 2013 14: 16
        +6
        Destabilization is beneficial to some power structures and special services, let's say "controlled destabilization". After another state of emergency, our laws are tightened and the screws are tightened. And in order to twist them, and break through the necessary laws and privileges, and so that no one squeaked, a good reason is needed.
        It is also beneficial to homegrown radicals, both on the one hand and on the other.
        1. smile
          smile 10 December 2013 15: 20
          +1
          RUSS
          Yeah ... sorry, what are you talking about? Is power beneficial to destabilization? Well, yes, yes, the authorities of all countries where the orange plague came and organized it themselves — it was beneficial for them .... :))) baby talk on the lawn ... excuse me.
          Yes, and we only got nuts, and not tightened.

          And as for the radicals, I agree completely. It seems that Natsik on both sides feed each other, like communicating vessels and exist thanks to each other.
  • FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 10 December 2013 15: 21
    13
    Just the other day, I called to Moscow for employment, one of the first questions was the question of my nationality. It seems hardworking and not drinking already and employers got.
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  • UmaR
    UmaR 10 December 2013 16: 04
    -2
    RUSS

    I’m wondering what will happen if when a Russian kills (I'm talking about non-Asiatic Russians) a non-Russian rally, I think the whole country will turn into a continuous rally, because unfortunately Russians also kill non-Russians in different parts of our country, but fortunately not Russian do not suit and do it right, let the law enforcement agencies deal with the killings! As for migrants from Central Asia, there are of course too many officially 11 million, even much more than all the North Caucasians in the place taken, the latter and then almost 90% live in the Caucasus.
    1. avg
      avg 10 December 2013 16: 16
      11
      Quote: UmaR
      RUSS
      I’m wondering what will happen if when a Russian kills (I'm talking about non-Asiatic Russians) not a Russian to hold a rally

      And you before asking this question. Ask yourself another. For example, where are the Russian residents of Chechnya? Then the need to ask the first question will disappear.
      1. UmaR
        UmaR 10 December 2013 18: 49
        -3
        avg

        And you better ask yourself the following question, who is to blame for the fact that there are almost no Russians in Chechnya? I am, or the Chechen people!
        1. I am a Russian
          I am a Russian 10 December 2013 21: 53
          0
          Quote: UmaR
          Who is to blame for the fact that there are almost no Russians in Chechnya?


          Who will give an answer?
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 10 December 2013 23: 04
            +3
            Quote: I am a Russian
            Who will give an answer?
            1. UmaR
              UmaR 11 December 2013 00: 51
              +2
              Yarosvet

              So I always say, cut out destroy this scum that killed the Russians, and who they were, they were terrorists, bandits armed to the teeth, they only had their own opinion and they didn’t give a damn about the opinion of other Chechens, and if someone dared to contradict them at all they shot him on the spot calling him traitors to the so-called new Ichkeria, and not one of the Chechens could do anything about it, you know how many these thugs killed the Chechens themselves, I know they kidnapped Chechens for ransom, they took the ransom, but they rarely return the person back Do you know how many Chechens they raped, how many heads were cut down, you can’t count their barbarism over the Chechens themselves, do you think that they only slaughtered the Russians, or did you kill many Russians than the Chechens, because ordinary people are not to blame, I think which is not responsible for their deed like most Chechens.
              In the history of Russia, there have also been cases when Russians slaughtered Russians. We must all together prevent more of such barbarism.
            2. I am a Russian
              I am a Russian 11 December 2013 14: 28
              -1
              Can’t you state your thoughts? It seems to you a difficult question.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 10 December 2013 16: 53
      +1
      Umar I don’t understand your question, you have problems in constructing sentences (syntax).
      1. UmaR
        UmaR 10 December 2013 18: 51
        -2
        RUSS

        I knew, not I was sure that you would not understand! laughing
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 10 December 2013 21: 37
          +1
          Again syntax issue fool .
    3. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga 10 December 2013 17: 21
      +2
      Quote: UmaR
      but fortunately, not Russians are rallying and doing it right,

      They still arrange not only rallies, but also pickets (round dances) in front of police stations with their own demands such as "death to the hares", "b-y-d-l-o in the stall," "slaves on their knees," threats to families, etc. etc. So there is no need to pass fiction as reality.
      1. UmaR
        UmaR 10 December 2013 20: 03
        0
        A. Yaga

        No, they don’t like it, you know what I’m talking about, when in all parts of the country Russians are killed, not even anyone notices, this is a fact and it’s not fantastic.

        You know, those who dance shoot at hooligans or threaten someone, that’s what they need to be punished, stop them, beat them well so that they wouldn’t understand another time, because they don’t understand otherwise, but you shouldn’t kill anyone, a couple of times in the face and all, well, of course, it would be more correct to punish in all the strictness of the law a plant and so on based on the elements of a crime. But you can’t say that they are all like that, it’s not true, many Chechens and other Caucasians in Russia who do not violate anything live in peace, study, etc. it’s just noticeable exactly those who are showing off, and accordingly others are not so noticeable. I assure you of such scumbags and the Chechens themselves despise, not so long ago there was such an incident in the Nadterechny District in the brotherly village (leg of the Mirzin Yurt), one guy from the brotherly called a girl from another region to talk to Dos, well, the other guy found out about this same region that the girl, well, this guy and his friends turned out to be just those scumbags who consider themselves to be superior to others, he called brotherly and told him to come and show not only to him but to everyone, from the brother’s said let's see, he came with friends well they weren’t beaten , they broke all limbs literally, they begged for them to be released, well, they didn’t kill anyone, of course they sent them back like that, they won’t come back anymore, I want to say such scumbags everywhere they don’t like them anywhere!
        1. A. Yaga
          A. Yaga 11 December 2013 22: 02
          0
          Quote: UmaR
          No, they’re not happy, you know what I mean


          http://doctalovtyz.livejournal.com/4273248.html# Этот митинг русские repeat against non-Russians crying arranged?
          Summary of video, speaker quotes:
          "Budanov vile ub-lyud-ok",
          "Fans vile B - Y-D-LO",
          "The killer of Yegor Sviridov is innocent,"
          “CAUCASIANS ARE THE BEST!”,
          “A Muslim cannot be guilty !!!”,
          “SKINHEDS ARE RUNNING!”,
          "TKACHEV THE ENDED NATIONALIST!",
          “KRASNODAR TERRITORY IS THE LAND OF A Muslim-CAUCASUS !!!”
  • yan
    yan 10 December 2013 12: 51
    +8
    Note that an important role at the beginning of the pogroms was played by the distrust of citizens towards officials who are suspected of total corruption.
    this is not pogroms this is a revolutionary situation. Another question is what will serve as a catalyst, but social tension is looking for a way out.
    1. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 13: 23
      +2
      yan
      Thank God, until the 91-year-old situation, when the unreasonable champions of Western values ​​and jeans, under the shouts of "Down with corrupt party apparatchiks", rejoiced at the destruction of the country far away.
      Although the same cries - "about crooks and thieves" sound ... and with the same goals ... and the same forces created this slogan.
      And on Tiananmen Square it sounded "Down with corrupt bureaucrats" .. fortunately, the Chinese "Protestants" were killed by tanks ... otherwise there would be no China ...
      1. yan
        yan 10 December 2013 13: 26
        0
        I would like to believe
      2. military
        military 10 December 2013 15: 27
        +9
        Quote: smile
        Although the same cries - "about crooks and thieves" sound ... and with the same goals ... and the same forces created this slogan. And on Tiananmen Square sounded "Down with corrupt bureaucrats" .. fortunately the Chinese "Protestants" transferred by tanks ... otherwise there would be no China ...

        that is, in order to preserve Russia, it is vitally necessary to turn over all local Protestants who are dissatisfied with "crooks and thieves" ... winked
        I think the latter applaud you now ... standing ...
        1. smile
          smile 10 December 2013 16: 50
          0
          military
          Since perestroika, I’ve seen enough of the rallies of titular nationalists, for a rally, for example. miners sent to us in Lithuania. who were denounced by our great-power chauvinism and praised Russophobic democratic Lithuanians, I am persistent allergic to rallies ...
          Currently. as practice has shown. any rally organized by any opposition force is saddled by marsh children like cavalry, chirikov and others like them ... any. And no one drives them from the stands - they arrange Protestants. Look at the composition of the Protestants, a wild mixture of fascists, liberals, homosexuals and don’t understand anyone ...
          the victory of such forces in 91 led to that. that thieves and corruption have become hundreds of times more and the country has collapsed ... if we allow these to power - the situation will happen again - I am convinced of this - by the way, you remember, the elbon also liked to communicate with both the ambassador and the US president ... current oppositionists also love this very much ...

          So what to do with them? Cherish? I do not like blood and not any outsiders - "shoot, on a count" - as, for example, people who think they are Stalin's supporters like to yell, forgetting that he just abolished the death penalty.
          But I think that the Chinese, looking at what has happened (only five wars and countless armed conflicts) are happy. that the Tienanmen colleagues of our marshes were rolled out on asphalt.

          So, don’t ...
          And if you are unhappy with something, go ahead. Towards dawn, there are so many parties, each has a leader - vote for him if he is more worthy ... by the way, and who is more worthy. may I ask?
          1. military
            military 10 December 2013 17: 21
            +5
            Quote: smile
            And if you are unhappy with something, go ahead. Towards dawn, there are so many parties, each has a leader - vote for him if he is more worthy ... by the way, and who is more worthy. may I ask?

            it is possible ... all my life I voted for the Communists in the elections ... although, even with a hunchback, he left the party ... today's communists are also far from "chocolate" ... but for a person who "rose" on the liberals (election congress EdRa), I have never voted and will not vote ... I am not blind or deaf ... hi
            1. smile
              smile 10 December 2013 18: 43
              0
              military
              You are the first somewhere in the year that answered this question to me. I respect you. And I respect the choice. Unfortunately, I have to admit that Zyuganov is not drawn to the role of the leader of the country, with him the party is desolate - there is a mess in the grassroots organizations, there is no work with youth. And after talking with deputies from the Communist Party in the Kaliningrad region, I came to the conclusion that they are no different from those in the bucket ... nothing.
  • Apollo
    Apollo 10 December 2013 12: 53
    +6
    Video in the subject.
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 10 December 2013 12: 58
      +9
      it is clear here. Mr. Buzin, like most bureaucrats in Russia, protects first of all his fat railways. he admit the facts of popular discontent, in maskva the same switchman will close him up.
    2. Apollo
      Apollo 10 December 2013 13: 02
      +6
      quote-Since the conflict involved Arzamas Slavic nationality and natives of one of the Central Asian republics, he instantly acquired a national color in the eyes of local residents.

      Murder in Arzamas
      Usually behind such lines is a crime that has signs of interethnic. So this time ... In social networks, the name of the murdered man is called - Alexander Slakaev - and they claim that migrants from the near abroad are involved in his murder. "Newsroom24" gives details: the murder was allegedly committed by the cook of "Ochag" cafe, a native of Armenia. The killer is detained and is in custody. The tragedy was caused by a domestic conflict between two groups of young people, natives of Russia and Armenia.

      In the evening, relatives and friends of the murdered man, as well as people who were simply not indifferent to the grief of others, spontaneously gathered at Cathedral Square. Representatives of the Arzamas police and a certain Sergeev Pyotr Aleksandrovich from the Investigative Committee of Nizhny Novgorod tried to answer to the people. Later, the gathering of the people moved to the other end of the city to the Noy cafe, which is also considered an Armenian institution. Reportedly, the Ochag cafe, where the murder took place, is currently closed for the duration of the investigation.

      According to the "Nizhny Novgorod information portal of the ethnopolitical movement" Russians ", according to the testimony of local residents, the" Ochag "cafe is one of the hottest places in the city, fights constantly take place there. migrants from Armenia. ”Comrade Alexandra managed to survive, but was taken to the intensive care unit.
      http://www.segodnia.ru/content/132502

      photo of the brutally murdered Alexander Slakaev
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 10 December 2013 13: 30
        +5
        Quote: Apollon
        Later, the gathering of the people moved to the other end of the city to the Noy cafe, which is also considered an Armenian institution.

        evil spirits in uniform always live near nightlife.
    3. A.YARY
      A.YARY 10 December 2013 13: 05
      12
      35 years speaks lives in Russia! And speaks Russian barely!
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 10 December 2013 13: 28
        11
        Quote: A.YARY
        35 years speaks lives in Russia! And speaks Russian barely!

        In such cases, they completely forget the great and the powerful, the number of years lived in Russia does not affect the knowledge of the Russian language, the composition of the crime committed does.
        1. A.YARY
          A.YARY 10 December 2013 13: 44
          10
          Victor, good day
          I a neighbor is an Armenian, and a friend is a submariner, an Armenian, a friend of Circassian, a Georgian lavash merchant-can learn any Russian language ... in all its diversity
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 10 December 2013 13: 51
            +8
            Quote: A.YARY
            I have a neighbor, an Armenian, and a friend, a submariner, an Armenian, a friend of the Circassian, a Georgian pita merchant

            Andrei, in my post we are not talking about nationality in the above privacy, but scumbags from nationalities. Good day to you too hi !
            1. A.YARY
              A.YARY 10 December 2013 14: 03
              +6
              and scumbags from nationalities


              Yeah, the pan-a, and there is one, and the neighing is the same.
          2. I am a Russian
            I am a Russian 10 December 2013 22: 04
            +1
            Quote: A.YARY
            I have a neighbor, an Armenian, and a friend, a submariner, an Armenian, a friend of the Circassian, a lavash dealer, Georgians can learn any Russian language.


            "any Russian language"

            not any ... that's for sure
      2. antibanukurayza
        antibanukurayza 10 December 2013 16: 14
        +1
        Quote: A.YARY
        35 years speaks lives in Russia! And speaks Russian barely!

        My neighbors were born and live their entire conscious lives in Kazakhstan, but they don’t speak Kazakh at all! So what?....
      3. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 10 December 2013 18: 36
        -1
        So he is not obliged to mow Russian. And in general, where do the shops not involved? Or do people have no brains at all? They reward the uninvolved, punish the innocent. And why are such Russians better than the Kukluksklanovtsev?
  • RUSS
    RUSS 10 December 2013 13: 03
    +6
    Caucasians want to hold a rally on Manezhnaya Square
    The action will take place no earlier than December 25. People from Central Asian countries can also take part in it.

    Representatives of the North Caucasian communities want to hold a rally against xenophobia. This was reported by Nezavisimaya Gazeta with reference to informed sources.

    People from the North Caucasus chose Manezhnaya Square as the venue for the proposed rally. According to the publication, the idea to hold a rally in the square, which became the site of one of the largest nationalist actions in December 2010, arose among the diasporas after a similar experience in Makhachkala. The reason for the rally in the capital of Dagestan on November 29 was the support of lawyer Murad Musaev (the Investigative Committee initiated criminal proceedings against him on charges of bribery or threats against witnesses in the murder of Colonel Yuri Budanov).

    One of the organizers, Muhammad Magomedov, told the newspaper that the rally in Makhachkala also raised the topic of banning hijabs and building mosques. “The appeal was mainly to the North Caucasian Muslims, to everyone who believes that something wrong is happening so that they consolidate. To more serious political activity. Most Caucasian and Islamic problems originate in Moscow, because political decisions are made there. Accordingly, the political will to put pressure on is in Moscow, ”argues Magomedov. According to him, the rally is planned at the earliest on December 25. “The rally will be either until December 25, or after the New Year holidays. But there is a firm intention, and we will realize it, ”Magomedov emphasized.

    As noted in the publication, representatives of Central Asian diasporas can also take part in the Moscow rally. “Migrants this situation can lead to an explosion. Last year, when Tajik janitors were not given a salary in Moscow, they went out and protested. When the situation reaches the explosion point, they will exit again. Only in Moscow there are 500 thousand Tajik citizens, and there are two million of them throughout Russia - it won’t be enough, ”said Izzat Aman, chairman of the Tajik Youth Union in Russia.

    Magomedov told the publication that the planned action is not "purely Caucasian." “We are Caucasians, but we would not like to be locked in this. We say that in the country there are problems along the national and religious lines, and we do not like these processes. There are many people, not Caucasians or even Muslims, who share our views, ”he emphasized.
    1. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA 10 December 2013 13: 34
      20
      there are 500 Tajik citizens in Moscow, and two million of them throughout Russia - it’s not enough, ”said Izzat Aman, chairman of the Tajik Youth Union in Russia.

      What is he about? Is he threatening chtoli? Or am I too xenophobic to understand his words?
      1. rrrd
        rrrd 10 December 2013 13: 53
        10
        Yes, no, you understood correctly! and do not blame the West for everything! they really went wild! there is an active destruction of the RUSSIAN MAN! he himself was a witness! they know what they call the Russian pig. they will play out soon!
      2. IRBIS
        IRBIS 10 December 2013 14: 01
        20
        Quote: TUNISIA
        Is he threatening chtoli?

        "... Chairman of the Union of Tajik Youth in Russia ..."
        His position is strange. And the union is also strange. Isn't it time to disperse all these "unions", communities and diasporas according to their national norms? And if they try to perform with some kind of processions, then throw out all this rag-tag on their homeland in the most severe way, with blood and broken muzzles. I think that in such a noble cause the people will help their own police with pleasure.
        1. rrrd
          rrrd 10 December 2013 14: 06
          +6
          I am for! the only thing the police are unlikely to help the people!
        2. A.YARY
          A.YARY 10 December 2013 14: 06
          +3
          Sasha! Do not tempt! angry
        3. Normal
          Normal 10 December 2013 20: 55
          +4
          Quote: IRBIS
          then throw this whole riffraff to their homeland in the most severe way, with blood and broken faces.

          How intolerant and unfriendly you are arguing, Alexander. This is a pogrom! This is so not liberal! How not ashamed! :))) laughing good
          Quote: IRBIS
          I think that in such a noble cause, the people will help the native police with pleasure.

          Unfortunately, the people will be on the one hand, and the police will guard and protect the protesting Caucasian Asians.
      3. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 10 December 2013 22: 51
        +1
        ... doesn’t threaten .... he explains that he won’t show up, they will sweep dust off their nose if they start to show discontent. say enough for a large area (
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    2. Tersky
      Tersky 10 December 2013 13: 38
      15
      Quote: RUSS
      “Migrants this situation can lead to an explosion. Last year, when Tajik janitors were not given a salary in Moscow, they went out and protested. When the situation reaches the explosion point, they will exit again. Only in Moscow there are 500 of thousands of Tajik citizens, and there are two million of them throughout Russia - it’s not enough, ”said Izzat Aman, chairman of the Tajik Youth Union in Russia.

      Well, they were pre-tolerant, here the Ravshans and the jackal grinned began to demonstrate, there will still be roofing felts .... They will drive all such Amanovs from the Asses and From the Front with a filthy broom to their historical homeland, let them show their Obturburethrenbomes there a lot or a little ...
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 10 December 2013 13: 51
      +5
      Quote: RUSS
      Accordingly, the political will to put pressure on is in Moscow, ”argues Magomedov.

      These are the Magomedovs that need to be crushed first of all ... these "benefactors" under a seemingly "plausible" pretext begin to drive the wave ...
    4. JonnyT
      JonnyT 10 December 2013 14: 34
      +9
      Quote: RUSS
      it will not seem enough, ”said Izzat Aman, chairman of the Tajik Youth Union in Russia.


      Oh well......
      our society is now actively radicalizing ..... in this situation, any action on the part of emigrants will lead to increased tension ..... Young people are no longer afraid to fight, not afraid to go to the knife .... many are already walking around with trunks and knives and in a conflict with Caucasians and emigrants actively apply them .... patience will burst .....

      Liberals brought the country to a boiling point
      1. rrrd
        rrrd 10 December 2013 14: 38
        +5
        and I including injuries! my favorite hawthorn ! I won’t go into this topic anymore, but now I’m envious of you to write here! then Apollo will curse again hi
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 10 December 2013 16: 27
          +5
          Quote: rrrd
          I won’t go into this topic anymore, but now I’m envious of you to write here! then Apollo will curse again


          It seems to you that it remains for you to introduce Apollo as, first a bone-breaker and then a bone-crusher. winked
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 10 December 2013 14: 46
        +7
        Quote: JonnyT
        Liberals brought the country to a boiling point

        Putin president 2000-2008, prime minister 2008-2012, president 2012- ?.
        Do you mean this liberal or someone else?
        If the other, then I would like a surname.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 10 December 2013 15: 05
          0
          And now it’s just fashionable to blame liberals for all mortal sins.
        2. JonnyT
          JonnyT 10 December 2013 15: 44
          +8
          Do you sincerely believe that Putin and Medvedev rule the country ???

          Putin acts according to a template provided from outside .... small liberties are possible in small areas that do not affect incomes ......

          As the "meeting" decides, so will Putin act ...

          In fact, the country is now ruled by the heads of financial clans that earned during the collapse of the USSR ........ so to speak "secret veche" ...... I don’t know their names ..... and these gentlemen prefer dirty tricks in create shadows
    5. Nikolay D.
      Nikolay D. 10 December 2013 19: 24
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      Only in Moscow there are 500 thousand Tajik citizens, and there are two million of them throughout Russia - it’s not enough, ”said Izzat Aman, chairman of the Tajik Youth Union in Russia.


      What can I say, do cancer, he drives the fool. I decided to take blackmail, they say, by order they will rebel and go to blame the Russians, well, well, if it comes to this, Tajikistan will simply be razed to the ground (like a hotbed of terrorism, and there will be no longer a "tsar bomb"), and there will be nowhere then return to those who survived from them in Russia, they know about it. I think he is blackmailing this out of despair, if the Tajiks are evicted to their homeland, then there, in unemployment, they will simply raise their khans (or whoever they have) to a pitchfork, that's all business.
      Anyway, he always considered Tajiks the most peaceful of the Asians.
  • dnh1970
    dnh1970 10 December 2013 13: 05
    25
    “It is better to kill a wife once than to constantly kill her lovers!” It is necessary to deal not only with the emigrants themselves, but also with those to whom they go to work. Let them bear responsibility for those who are invited ...
  • nekromonger
    nekromonger 10 December 2013 13: 07
    18
    suitcase-station-Tashkent. for the illegal hiring of gaster - criminal punishment.
  • Ivan Pomidorov
    Ivan Pomidorov 10 December 2013 13: 16
    11
    Quote: RUSS
    As noted in the publication, representatives of Central Asian diasporas can also take part in the Moscow rally. “Migrants this situation can lead to an explosion. Last year, when Tajik janitors were not given a salary in Moscow, they went out and protested. When the situation reaches the explosion point, they will exit again.


    Salary is sacred. Must - give it back.

    And this:
    Only in Moscow there are 500 thousand Tajik citizens, and there are two million of them throughout Russia - it’s not enough, ”said Izzat Aman, chairman of the Tajik Youth Union in Russia.


    This, excuse me, is arrogant blackmail and incitement.
    IMHO, on the train and back to the village.
    Such "Unions" should be headed by adequate leaders, oriented towards cooperation and having a constructive position.
    The state should control this and not allow such "unions", "diasporas", etc. to multiply.
    "Union of Young Workers" - I understand.
    Emphasize on a national sign - in no case!
    This is the "roof" in its purest form!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 10 December 2013 13: 41
      13
      Quote: Ivan Pomidorov
      Such "Unions" should be headed by adequate leaders,

      I’ll tell you that there shouldn’t be any of them (unions of Tajik youth, etc. organizations) in Russia. And for such statements 5 years of forced labor. Everything. Tough and sometimes cruel. Only then and then order. But ... we have a bitch power and this will not happen.
    2. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 14: 25
      +6
      Ivan Pomidorov
      I agree to all 100. Special services should actively work and control with such "Unions". Any manifestation of nationalism to suppress mercilessly .... just as well as from our side. Pay special attention to employers who use foreign labor as slaves. Otherwise we will finish badly.
      1. A.YARY
        A.YARY 10 December 2013 15: 17
        +6
        Vladimir good day
        With such "Soyuz" special services should actively work and control.

        Only one service should work with SUCH "unions" BY EXCLUSION FROM COUNTRY!!! - Tajik should be in Tajikistan and not in RUSSIA!

        And for threats to put him on a shovel in the Arctic for life.
        1. smile
          smile 10 December 2013 18: 46
          +2
          A.YARY
          Hello Andrei.
          The option suits me perfectly. nefig. :)))
          1. sleepy
            sleepy 11 December 2013 02: 36
            0
            No flags with swastikas.
            No shouting "Russia for the Russians."
            No fights.
            Let's live in peace.
            And it will be like in the movie "What are you watching."



            No comment.
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            2. sleepy
              sleepy 11 December 2013 03: 18
              0
              "Georgy Poltavchenko: The principles of tolerance lie at the heart of civil peace and harmony."
              http://www.gazeta.spb.ru/1498648-0/

              "St. Petersburg cannot do without migrants: in comparison with them, local residents are lazy and insufficiently educated, experts say."
              http://www.gazeta.spb.ru/1515058-0/

              "Prime Minister: Russia does not plan to introduce a visa regime
              with the countries of Central Asia. "
              http://www.gazeta.spb.ru/1530536-0/

              "In Moscow in the metro, unknown persons shot a visitor from Dagestan (video)."
              http://www.gazeta.spb.ru/1510370-1/
            3. rrrd
              rrrd 11 December 2013 11: 00
              0
              Yes, all the same corrupt media. I wrote it myself, I didn’t understand what! there were two Slavs traveling there, and behind the scenes two Dagestanis. the Slavs sat and didn’t touch anyone. until one of the Slavs, who had older, noticed how two Dagestanis were looking at him. Dagestanis also waved their manes and said che lupishsya !? he laughed and turned to the younger with a grin! one Dagestan got up and went up THE FIRST to the Slavs, while holding one hand in his pocket, at the end of the video, if you look closely, the young Slavs, aiming the gun, tells him to remove the knife! who is a criminalist will understand what is happening here. non-Russians initially wanted to show their superiority as dad and son thought they were going but did not expect an outcome! that one didn’t even climb then! watched the video 10 well done!
              and by the way the video is not complete
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  • makarov
    makarov 10 December 2013 13: 19
    +4
    Sad Indeed, before Arzamas was famous for its geese, and its own school of painting ...
    1. Ahmed Osmanov
      Ahmed Osmanov 10 December 2013 14: 03
      +9
      "It's sad. After all, Arzamas used to be famous for its geese, and its own school of painting ..." And not only that ... And it is not at all clear how migrants are allowed into a city where a secret weapon is being developed? Or am I confusing something ?!
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 10 December 2013 18: 41
      0
      Quote: makarov
      Indeed, before Arzamas was famous for its geese, and its own school of painting

      Yeah, still beloved (by the officials), the children's writer Arkady Golikov, who presented us with the VNUK Egor Timurovich GAIDAR!
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 10 December 2013 13: 21
    +5
    Quote: yan
    . Another question is what will serve as a catalyst, but social tension is looking for a way out.

    And this catalyst can serve all the same ... distrust of citizens towards officials suspected of total corruption ...и notice that the killing was characterized (by officials) as domesticalthough Dagestanis and Russians participated in the conflict ... and except as ethnic hatred it can not be called ...
    1. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 14: 30
      +1
      Valery Neonov
      Interethnic strife is a specific crime. And to qualify as such any conflict of people of different nationalities is unreasonable and smells like provocation.
      It is noteworthy that comrades for riots need only SUSPICION of corruption of officials - we now have suspicion of indulgence for committing a crime?
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 10 December 2013 15: 06
        +7
        Try to explain this to the relatives of the victim .. hi
        1. smile
          smile 10 December 2013 18: 03
          0
          Valery Neonov
          This is the law. And the relatives of the killed do not always lose their ability to think with grief - remember how the relatives of the killed paratrooper asked the crowds (gathered by strange activists who had noted on Bolotnaya, invited dozens of journalists and quickly provided extras) not to arrange a sabbath on the guy’s bones?
          Therefore, it is not necessary to engage in populism with an anguish, under the guise of one crime, smart guys organize the commission of a mass of crimes, as a result of which the number of innocent killed can multiply many times, and do not pretend that you do not understand this.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 10 December 2013 13: 24
    10
    As a result, drunken crowds of locals
    I understand that before the pile he still has balalaikas in his hands and bears on a leash. For the mass manifestation of rage, alcohol is optional. Enough inaction of the authorities in such cases. It’s quite ...
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 10 December 2013 13: 57
      13
      Quote: retired
      Enough inaction of the authorities in such cases. It’s quite ..

      Yuri, this is not the result of inaction, but of protection ...
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 10 December 2013 16: 06
        +6
        Quote: Tersky
        Yuri, this is not the result of inaction, but of protection ...

        Yeah ... I was here in the summer of my ex-cadet SUCH telling ... I'm still in shock. Works after the Serdyukov dismissal of officers in the FMS department of one of the regions in the south of Russia. He says that IT is a full-fledged, well-organized sabotage against Russia. It’s hard for him there. Military officer, no matter how ..
  • alex-kon
    alex-kon 10 December 2013 13: 26
    13
    The problem is not with the migrants themselves, but in the fact that recently they are increasingly clutching at the knife. Recently, any fight with immigrants from the Caucasus ends in deaths. This is precisely what kindles ethnic strife in Russia.
    1. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 14: 34
      +5
      alex-kon
      You are right ... partially ... Caucasian youth is running into it - they are educating it badly ... and we are badly educating their educators, although the emphasis should be on that.
      But you probably forgot that Caucasians are not Gaster, they are mainly Russian citizens, and not migrants at all.
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 10 December 2013 15: 21
      +9
      Quote: alex-kon
      and in the fact that recently they are increasingly clutching at a knife.

      You are mistaken, they never let him out of his hands, this is their main argument in clarifying the relationship
  • Humpty
    Humpty 10 December 2013 13: 27
    18
    What the hell is "domestic murder"! Everyday life is when one uncle at the table drunkenly beat another uncle on the head with an empty bottle.
    If any evil spirits wandering around the city with knives and killing, this is not "everyday life", this is banditry, in this case, still burdened with national intolerance.
  • tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 10 December 2013 13: 34
    10
    First, local residents go to the cafe for visitors to drink and eat. Then we’ll go to the market to buy food. In a taxi to a visitor to get to the house. Etc....
    I don’t mean that the murdered Alexander would be alive if he didn’t go to the Armenian cafe, I’m to the fact that this cafe simply would not exist without visitors.
  • lazy
    lazy 10 December 2013 13: 37
    +2
    there will still be roofing felts, there will still be roofing felts, roofing felts will still be ohoya .... the words of one song come to mind, while the state represented by officials of different ranks will be engaged in boltology, visibility of work and not solving the problem, this will happen more and more often. if in all that is happening see only the machinations of nationalists and gang warfare.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 10 December 2013 13: 51
    +1
    Distribute assault rifles to Russians and the right to shoot suspicious nazmen.
    1. Beck
      Beck 10 December 2013 14: 37
      +1
      Quote: EvilLion
      Distribute assault rifles to Russians and the right to shoot suspicious nazmen.


      Alexander Romanov and where are you?

      You wait when I sharply answer the author of this appeal leading to ethnic hatred, pogroms, blood. Then to give me a warning for the fact that I insulted Natsik.

      Or are you silent, to the author of this koment, because you share such views. Well, keep silent further, silence of people like you leads to blood flows in the streets.
      1. rrrd
        rrrd 10 December 2013 14: 41
        +5
        I see you still had no conflict with the Caucasians! Do not worry still ahead.
        1. Beck
          Beck 10 December 2013 14: 59
          +4
          Quote: rrrd
          I see you still had no conflict with the Caucasians! Do not worry still ahead.


          I am an elderly person and in my life I have had many conflicts with different people of different nationalities. But I have never identified my counterpart in conflict with an entire nation, be it at least Kalmyk, at least Turks, at least Russian, at least someone.

          It is only those who are nationalistically faced with an individual boor that they call the ham all his people, etc. I had a conflict with the Englishman, but it never occurred to me to somehow call the whole English people together with Newton and Darwin.
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          2. tverskoi77
            tverskoi77 10 December 2013 16: 18
            +9
            Dear Beck!
            Distribute assault rifles to Russians and the right to shoot suspicious nazmen.
            - This is a standard provocation and I fully support your indignation.
            But with this comment too
            I see you still had no conflict with the Caucasians! Do not worry still ahead.
            I agree. And the reason is that in recent years the overwhelming majority of various conflicts have been associated with Caucasians. In my opinion, this is due to the fact that living in Russia they do not consider it their native country, plus they put themselves above others, and this complements an inferiority complex (the simultaneous understanding that their native republics are poor, and most of the benefits are taken or given from other regions of Russia where stupid and drunk locals live, including "... pigs").
            Negative behavior of visitors from the Caucasus has long been a systematic approach, these are not isolated cases.
            1. Beck
              Beck 10 December 2013 16: 44
              +4
              Quote: tverskoi77
              And the reason is that in recent years the vast majority of various conflicts are connected precisely with Caucasians.


              Well, I know Caucasians, some know me. I had to work and live in those areas of Kazakhstan where about a third of Caucasians lived in settlements. These are Turks, and Chechens, and Ingush, and Ossetians, etc. who at one time were evicted from their homelands to Kazakhstan.

              Yes, they have their own mentality, their habits and so on, but they are all Humans. And people will always find a common language. And I do not belong better to the Kazakh killer than to the Caucasian killer. Since all criminals are not painted in national tones, they are driven only by vices.

              Caucasians also accepted me as a dear guest, I used to fight with Caucasians, but it must be an idiot so that because of whom I had a fight, hang a label of hooligans on those who welcomed me warmly.
              1. tverskoi77
                tverskoi77 11 December 2013 12: 16
                0
                Caucasians also accepted me as a dear guest, I used to fight with Caucasians, but it must be an idiot so that because of whom I had a fight, hang a label of hooligans on those who welcomed me warmly.

                Almost all of us have friends, colleagues, neighbors of different nationalities, including and from the Caucasus. I personally have. But the point is not that because of one, two or three negative meetings, a label is hung up on the whole people. When a grasshopper sits on a branch - it's nice, even a grasshopper and trash. But when there are hundreds of such grasshoppers, it’s a locust, and you know what remains after it. This is how I will outline the situation with the Caucasians.
                And in my opinion, they primarily discredit themselves in the face of the public: disrespect, abrasion of laws, arrogance.
                I personally do not hang the label, but the label is not on the people, but on individuals, my friends because of the ugly behavior of the majority of this people.
          3. 225chay
            225chay 11 December 2013 07: 03
            -1
            Quote: Beck
            I had a conflict with the Englishman, but it never occurred to me to somehow call the whole English people together with Newton and Darwin.

            and Newton and Darwin are not British by origin)))
            1. Beck
              Beck 11 December 2013 09: 20
              +1
              Quote: 225chay
              and Newton and Darwin are not British by origin)))


              Kruzenshtern, Bagration, Bering, Barclay de Toli, Landau, Kutuzov, Ermak and many others not of Russian origin, but Russian in spirit.
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      3. smile
        smile 10 December 2013 15: 28
        +7
        Beck
        Greetings to the old opponent!
        Beck, before being indignant - at least once kick some Russophobe, for example a compatriot - you have such a lot there, and then you will be able to understand ... for now, you prefer to expose our Natsiks by tacitly endorsing your .... who’s nothing not better than ours, unless you have more of them there than ours and in some ways they have state support from their countries.
        You don’t see any strange concept of interethnic hatred of your sins ... well, where is your objectivity? :))))
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 10 December 2013 15: 33
          +2
          Quote: smile
          Beck
          Greetings to the old opponent!
          Beck, before being indignant - at least once kick some Russophobe, for example a compatriot - you have a lot of them there, and then you can understand ... and for now, you prefer to expose our Natsik,

          Dear Vladimir, I welcome you. hi
          But in doing so, you are pushing Beck to illegal actions. As for kicking, this is the business of the law enforcement agencies of Kazakhstan.
          It saddens me that the Ministry for Interethnic Relations of the Russian Federation was abolished. Someone was profitable. Who ?!
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 10 December 2013 17: 01
            0
            I have already answered Smile, who is advantageous to those in power, and our power is not only the first person, the government and parliament ...
            Who can specifically change or not change the current situation? Power.
            1. ser86
              ser86 11 December 2013 02: 59
              +1
              it’s not all the people who allow such an attitude to blame
              no legislative act can change the personal attitude of one to the other, it must be changed by the people themselves
          2. smile
            smile 10 December 2013 18: 16
            +3
            Apollo
            :)))) Actually, I encouraged Beck to do it verbally ... :))) I thought. that this is understandable :)))) But if I’m to blame, I’m ready to bear all responsibility under the harsh revolutionary laws ... :)))

            But why and why they abolished the ministry, I have no idea, at least try. :)))
            If there is a desire to blame someone for intent, and not for stupidity, then you should find out who initiated this process, who gave the conclusion, what was the argument of the one who gave the conclusion. Who, according to the initiators, was supposed to assume the functions of the ministry.
            I don’t know any of this. Do you know?
            It reminds me of the abolition of the traffic police in some countries, where it was called by an absolutely ineffective organization that only worsened the process that it had to control ... or with personnel so bad ... that it’s easier to disperse.
            I repeat. I don’t have reliable information, but I’m not in a hurry to draw unreasonable conclusions .... which is what I wish to everyone. :)))
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 10 December 2013 18: 20
              +3
              Quote: smile
              If you want to blame someone for intent, and not for stupidity,

              He is inclined to believe that neither one nor the other. Most likely stupidity.
              1. smile
                smile 10 December 2013 18: 47
                0
                Apollo
                Yeah ... and out of the blue. I think so too.
        2. Beck
          Beck 10 December 2013 16: 09
          +5
          Quote: smile
          Beck, before being indignant - at least once kick some Russophobe,


          Hi Hi!

          Axiom - every nation has its own Natsik. This is a "sovereign" right that cannot be taken away by decrees. It can be leveled only through communication.

          And I wrote more than once that all the national Natsiks are the same for me. And our Kazakh Natsiks are no better and no worse than other Natsiks in the world. And I dislike Kazakh Natsiks more than Russians, as they dishonor my people.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 10 December 2013 17: 03
            +1
            Beck do not confuse nationalists and Nazis.
            1. Beck
              Beck 10 December 2013 17: 19
              +4
              Quote: RUSS
              Beck do not confuse nationalists and Nazis.


              And these are transitional phases of the same state. First of all, it is a nationalist who becomes a Nazi. It only takes time for nationalist ideas to develop into Nazi ones.

              As in Germany in the late 20's and early 30's. The initial nationalist slogans that the Germans were humiliated by indemnities, prohibitions, that everyone around them, that every backstage wants them to "destroy" and so on after WW1, smoothly grew into the Nazi slogans of WW2.
      4. grafrozow
        grafrozow 10 December 2013 22: 48
        +1
        Quote: Beck
        You wait when I sharply answer the author of this appeal leading to ethnic hatred, pogroms, blood. Then to give me a warning for the fact that I insulted Natsik.
        Yes, your answer to hell is not needed by anyone, a suitcase, a station, a village ... no migrants, no problems. Let the order at home, I DO NOT WANT to see these "guests" lousy and smelly at home, I'll take it in my own hands automatic machine, at the first opportunity, got the gaster, no matter what I want ...
        1. Beck
          Beck 11 December 2013 10: 27
          0
          Quote: grafrozow
          , I DON'T WANT to see these "guests" lousy and smelly at home, I'll pick up a machine gun myself, at the first opportunity, I got Gaster, no matter what I want ...


          Take it, take the gun, take it now. And start firing on all non-Russians. This will be the beginning of the end of Russia as a great, federal state.

          In Yugoslavia, instead of negotiating, Milosevic also grabbed the gun and where is now Yugoslavia.
          1. rrrd
            rrrd 11 December 2013 11: 06
            0
            In Yugoslavia, instead of negotiating, Milosevic also grabbed the gun and where is now Yugoslavia.

            people do not count for fools! everyone knows what happened there!
            as in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan!
            1. Beck
              Beck 11 December 2013 11: 43
              -2
              Quote: rrrd
              people do not count for fools! everyone knows what happened there!
              as in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan!


              Oh yes. All these are the world Jewish-Masonic societies, the world financial oligarchy, the imperial banking circles, the backstage of consumer goods society, the bastards Americans, the damned West, aliens, unknown microbes, otherworldly forces, witch conspiracies.

              And the dictators Hussein, Gaddafi who shot at their own and other peoples have nothing to do with it. And the Islamic Taliban, along with Al Qaeda, are orthodox; these are small children, the unreasonable ones with explosives didn’t do so.

              And the cannibal Bokassa was thrown off in vain, he just wanted to eat. And the monster Pol Pot, who destroyed 1/3 of the population of his country, how much in vain are the henchmen of American imperialism, the Vietnamese, deprived of power. And why is the Victory of the Red Army of poor and unhappy Hitler brought to suicide.

              All of them are dictators, and dictatorships are undoubted evil.
              1. rrrd
                rrrd 11 December 2013 12: 08
                +1
                All of them are dictators, and dictatorships are undoubted evil.

                even with a s eye - all of God's dew.
                1. Beck
                  Beck 11 December 2013 18: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: rrrd
                  even with a s eye - all of God's dew.


                  Pissed, or what?
                  1. rrrd
                    rrrd 11 December 2013 18: 42
                    0
                    usually say that people in old age become smarter (wiser) ....
                    there are two options.
                    1. either you get a salary for this and it’s your job. (KAZACHEK)
                    2. either you have become "wiser". smile
                    PS good luck in your search for eminently.
                    1. Beck
                      Beck 12 December 2013 08: 09
                      -1
                      Quote: rrrd
                      1. either you get a salary for this and it’s your job. (KAZACHEK)
                      2. either you have become "wiser".
                      PS good luck in your search for eminently.


                      No, and what?

                      First, for lack of erudition, elementary logic, lack of arguments, begins to issue incorrect passages with emphasis on the person, and when he is answered the same, he is offended.

                      You overtrained. Everything went to muscle mass, and from this the brains are dried. Until it's too late to train your brains - reading. And then in five years you’ll be a generally inflated senile. With the figure of Hercules and the head of a penguin.

                      But there are like-minded people, otherwise I would go in turtles on uniform.

                      And I get a salary of 1 pension a week from the Judeo-Masonic lodges, from the world behind the scenes, from the CIA, from the intelligence of the Small Sunda Islands, from the world consumer goods society, from the beer lovers' union.
                      And one penny from the FSB, the Foreign Intelligence Service, the Bank of Russia and its government.

                      The double agent is me.
    2. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 14: 43
      +3
      EvilLion
      Yeah, and the first thing they do is slam the neighbor you don't like - Russian.
      Is it that you have such humor? Or was such a thought really born in the bowels of your sleepy mind that begets monsters?
      How many "suspicious" carcasses will you settle for? Will the license be paid, or will the state have to pay for each corpse? Will women and children be hunted? What is the criterion for suspicion? Sideways Glance7 Unshaven? conversation in a non-Russian language? Or "why is he walking around here"?
      Do you really want to kill someone with impunity?
      I believe you are either a snotty pimple teenager, or you have not come of age by the level of psychophysical development.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 10 December 2013 13: 51
    +6
    There is no elementary order, everyone who is not lazy is coming to us, and if they knock them down they will go home and the village will not give them away. They must go here to a specific place of work by invitation with all insurance policies; in case of crimes, states must extradite criminals with those countries who do not agree to introduce a visa regime with this. But in general, this mess brings someone sickly grandmother to someone and if they would like to restore order long ago, the answer is:"Armenians, together with other national minorities, bought everyone and everything here (in Arzamas)" well, and not only in Arzamas.
    1. rrrd
      rrrd 10 December 2013 14: 00
      10
      here the answer is simple our authorities are tied financially with the diasporas! and what is a diaspora is an organized crime group!
    2. Apollo
      Apollo 10 December 2013 17: 19
      +5
      Quote: Alex66
      There is no elementary order, everyone who is not lazy is coming to us,

      But I just can not get together and come to Russia. I would love to come and see my friends from the forum.
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 10 December 2013 17: 23
        +5
        Quote: Apollon
        But I just can not get together and come to Russia. I would love to come and see my friends from the forum.

        But spit on everything and get ready. drinks
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 10 December 2013 17: 32
          +2
          Quote: Garrin
          But spit on everything and get ready.

          hi
          but how to spit, as in the era of prehistoric materialism or the post of historical materialism ?! laughing drinks
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 10 December 2013 17: 57
            +1
            Quote: Apollon

            hi
            but how to spit, as in the era of prehistoric materialism or the post of historical materialism ?! laughing drinks

            Just spit. Saliva. lol
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 10 December 2013 18: 15
              +3
              Quote: Garrin
              Just spit. Saliva

              Igor hi the phrase "and grind" was forgotten. yes
      2. uhjpysq1
        uhjpysq1 10 December 2013 17: 45
        -6
        uh no. yours and so dofiga already.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 10 December 2013 22: 48
          +3
          Quote: uhjpysq1
          uh no. yours and so dofiga already.


          he doesn’t come to work ... and stay and have a drink! and where is your traditional Russian hospitality ... go away with all my heart ... then you are indignant why Ukraine does not want to be in the TS ... wassat
      3. smile
        smile 10 December 2013 18: 52
        +6
        Apollo
        Come, come ... we will recall all our deleted comments here and the bitter tears of resentment at the fact that you interfere with swearing, like shoemakers ... we’ll drown you in cognac here! :))))
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 10 December 2013 23: 20
          +2
          Quote: smile
          Khan to you here, drown in brandy!

          I will be honored with you. hi
  • RUSS
    RUSS 10 December 2013 14: 03
    +2
    Quote: Alex66
    There is no elementary order, everyone who is not lazy is coming to us, and if they knock them down they will go home and the village will not give them away. They must go here to a specific place of work by invitation with all insurance policies; in case of crimes, states must extradite criminals with those countries who do not agree to introduce a visa regime with this. But in general, this mess brings someone sickly grandmother to someone and if they would like to restore order long ago, the answer is:"Armenians, together with other national minorities, bought everyone and everything here (in Arzamas)" well, and not only in Arzamas.

    I personally know a Tajik who was deported from Russia, a month later he came back with a new passport to a different name, bought at home for $ 100. Now it’s not working legally again.
    1. ser86
      ser86 11 December 2013 03: 05
      +2
      what prevents to hand him over to the FMS to the police?
  • tank 34
    tank 34 10 December 2013 14: 04
    +2
    All events demonstrate only one failure or, rather, a complete lack of political will for the state to restore order in the country. It is urgent in the Constitution to urgently remove the article on the lack of state ideology ...
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 10 December 2013 14: 11
    14
    "... groups of aggressive young people walked the streets, shouting" Russians forward! "
    The discontent of the natives against the visitors is ripening. It is difficult to say who is more to blame for this: authorities, guests or locals ...
    But the fact is that, as a rule, visitors are armed. This exacerbates the situation. They bring death.
    I consider it appropriate to oblige patrol groups to search on the spot for the possession of any weapon of persons of non-Slavic nationality. In order of prevention.
    I have no intentions to infringe on the rights of the peoples of Russia, but, as they say, they themselves are to blame.
    1. rrrd
      rrrd 10 December 2013 14: 31
      +4
      Yes, they have one knife in their pocket! how they express themselves to slaughter a Russian pig! This is especially true for Dag and Czechs.
    2. Nikolay D.
      Nikolay D. 10 December 2013 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Samsebenum
      I consider it appropriate to oblige patrol groups to search on the spot

      Who will search them will be those who protect them? There is a systemic crisis, it is very difficult to solve.
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  • NORILCHANIN
    NORILCHANIN 10 December 2013 14: 58
    +6
    Quote: Alex66
    There is no elementary order, everyone who is not lazy is coming to us, and if they knock them down they will go home and the village will not give them away. They must go here to a specific place of work by invitation with all insurance policies; in case of crimes, states must extradite criminals with those countries who do not agree to introduce a visa regime with this. But in general, this mess brings someone sickly grandmother to someone and if they would like to restore order long ago, the answer is:"Armenians, together with other national minorities, bought everyone and everything here (in Arzamas)" well, and not only in Arzamas.

    For dealers from power and Putin, NOT FOR A VIRTURE 99% of Caucasians voted for Putin and edrosiya in the elections. In Russia there is no law as there are no roads, some directions and DECISIONS.
  • FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 10 December 2013 15: 01
    +1
    Quote: Beck
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    The law implies equality of responsibility for one’s actions, and for the time being, in our country, national authorities in a privileged position (above the law) will only happen more often.


    But can you cite the relevant articles in the Constitution of Russia, in the Criminal Code, in the Administrative where the national authorities are privileged? I think you will not, because there are none. And your koment - verbiage.

    I am sure in Arzamas, and in other cities of Russia, on that day, hundreds of incidents took place with murders, too, where Slavs participated on both sides. And all without noise, such is life that we cannot live without incidents. But the only one where the nazmen are involved, even migrants, caused a storm among the Natsiks.

    And the very concept of national leadership includes precisely the citizens of Russia. And due to the fact that some citizens of Russia did something illegal, this is not a reason for the Nazis to smash the Russian city.

    Hundreds of killings of the Slavs by the Slavs-silence, hundreds of killings of non-Russian non-Russian-silence! But the murder of a Russian non-Russian is already an incident of national origin! As I understand it? I am not FOR or AGAINST just wrote how I saw this situation. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  • Altona
    Altona 10 December 2013 15: 04
    11
    If we in some Caucasian republics (fingers with horns) require de facto observance of "Sharia law": For women, completely closed dresses and a head wrapped in a headscarf, do not say too much to the local; then why in the Russian regions the "eh, bro, slyushai" should be treated differently to the "come in large numbers"? Simply, if your youth does not restrain themselves, then the whole Lyuli community will receive it, collectively ... This is our custom, mutual responsibility ... Didn't you know? Sorry, but get ...
    1. rrrd
      rrrd 10 December 2013 15: 06
      +4
      correctly!
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 10 December 2013 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      .That we have such a custom-mutual responsibility ... Did not know? Sorry, but get ...

      That's right. We are only late. Unfortunately.
  • NORILCHANIN
    NORILCHANIN 10 December 2013 15: 08
    0
    Quote: smile
    alex-kon
    You are right ... partially ... Caucasian youth is running into it - they are educating it badly ... and we are badly educating their educators, although the emphasis should be on that.
    But you probably forgot that Caucasians are not Gaster, they are mainly Russian citizens, and not migrants at all.

    Armenians are not citizens of Russia but aliens from Armenia and there are more of them.
    V. Bazu from Armenia and even the Azerbaijanis are annoying.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 10 December 2013 15: 27
      11
      A request to forum visitors who comment on this thread. Our forum is read not only by readers but also by representatives of law enforcement agencies. Someone who writes in haste is something that may fall under the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Please be careful in expressions.
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 December 2013 15: 40
        10
        Even if they read ... What? So, in the Caucasus, they cannot achieve compliance with the laws, but in the middle zone they can? Let them seek compliance with laws everywhere, and do not run into only Russian !!!
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 10 December 2013 22: 44
      +2
      Quote: NORILCHAN
      Remove
      V. Bazu from Armenia and even the Azerbaijanis are annoying.

      + + + + good
      1. alone
        alone 11 December 2013 00: 15
        +1
        Armenians are not citizens of Russia but aliens from Armenia and there are more of them.
        V. Bazu from Armenia and even the Azerbaijanis are annoying


        what The idea is still not bad)) lol
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 10 December 2013 15: 30
    +3
    police stations need to be smashed, as migrants feel impunity through their fault, then something can stir in the law
    1. smile
      smile 10 December 2013 19: 04
      +1
      soldier's grandson
      That is, you propose to kill the Russian guys in police uniforms, so that the bad non-Russians kill the Russians less? It must be assumed that the more Russians are killed by the pogromists (and they can’t do without corpses - the police are obliged to counteract the criminal acts of the wild crowd), the better Russia will live? And if they defeat the quarter adjacent to the site. loot, burn women and children alive and shoot, how many will be able to clean those who come - will the era of grandeur come?
      Are you drunk?
      Or is it your rotten essence crawled out?
      Or are you a banal provocateur?

      And some nerds added pluses ...

      And what can "move the law"? Are you non-Russian or just absolutely illiterate?
      1. starhina01
        starhina01 10 December 2013 23: 33
        0
        there is a saying like this (beat your own so that strangers would be afraid) but in this case I am not a supporter so that I can come off on my own. although the pogromists did not pay attention to this hi
      2. builder
        builder 11 December 2013 00: 29
        0
        About the pogroms of police stations is a bust. However, any lynching begins as a result of inaction of the authorities, especially the police. The riots from Kandopoga to Biryulyov took place because the police roamed for a long time for bribes of visitors and did not respond to local complaints.
  • Leshka
    Leshka 10 December 2013 15: 33
    +3
    what’s the most interesting, on TV, they don’t say anything
    1. builder
      builder 11 December 2013 00: 19
      0
      They also remained silent about the appointment of Serdyukov for half a month ...
  • Russ69
    Russ69 10 December 2013 15: 36
    +3
    Quote: NORILCHAN
    Remove V. Baza from Armenia and let the Azerbaijanis bother.

    Base in Armenia, what only covers it?
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  • Stanislas
    Stanislas 10 December 2013 15: 57
    +5
    The situation must be viewed from two sides.
    1. Sex education in most Russian families is much different from that of our southern neighbors. Southerners bring up the boy so that he can always stand up for himself in a fight, not even shy in front of a strong rival. If someone behaves differently, it is considered necessary to humiliate him morally and physically in order for him to understand that he will not hide and will not sit out, he must accept the battle. In this they see specifically male behavior and are respectful of those who show it, regardless of their nationality. In Russian families, boys are brought up more gently, they say that fighting is not good, if you study badly, they will be taken into the army, etc. The sexual revolution of the 90s went through us, which resulted in the unisex style: boys are less masculine, girls are less feminine. The consequence is the kirdyk of demography. A southerner, seeing a hamster or a whore in front of him (according to his concepts, which allows him not to have a demographic problem, a girl should look much more modest), by his habit offends them morally and physically. You can, of course, reeducate southerners, but maybe we'd better introduce separate education for our boys and girls?
    2. Corruption, unfortunately, is still the norm in Russia. Each migrant, appearing in a metropolis, is looking for his own person to pay tribute to corrupt law enforcement officers and officials through him, so that they turn a blind eye to his violations in business and everyday life, and appearing in the village, if there are no his countrymen in the vicinity, he is looking for such useful friends . So instruct the relatives and friends of the southerner, who is leaving for Russia for the first time, so he does. Maybe something to fix in the conservatory?
    1. antibanukurayza
      antibanukurayza 10 December 2013 16: 21
      -3
      Well, about separate education, you are in vain ... Islamophobes will immediately remember Sharia and start shouting about the Wahhabi-Salafi doctrine and about the "most bloodthirsty" religion. In Islamic countries, separate education is a norm aimed at educating men who are future defenders of their families and women - future mothers and caregivers of offspring.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 11 December 2013 10: 08
        +1
        Quote: antibanukuraza
        This is in Islamic countries - separate education - the norm aimed at educating just men - future protectors of their family and women - future mothers and educators of offspring.

        For hundreds of years, this was the norm for the Orthodox Russian state ... The norm, thanks to which the population of Russia grew rapidly, because many children in families were not only among Muslims, but also among the Slavs and other non-Muslim peoples of the empire. The young Soviet state, relying on the communist project, which absorbed the "French" inclinations of K. Marx and Lenin ("the emancipation of the spirit of sensuality, energy directed not at pseudo-family values, will help to throw out this clot on the cause of the victory of socialism" - Lenin, 1904) , conducted the first wave of the sexual revolution (posters "Down with shame" and naked people on the streets of St. Petersburg in the 20s, etc.), the second swept across Europe and further around the world, even got Russia in room 80- x - 90s. The consequence of this sexual liberation was the joint education of boys and girls, because of which they are already from the 6th - 7th grade, instead of being interested in science, sports, they begin to show more sexual preoccupation and consumption. People of the older generation can imagine if during their student days a student who could see either the lower abdomen or the pubis would make a report on matanalysis in a group ... Could you delve into matan at this time?
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 10 December 2013 19: 49
      +6
      Quote: Stanislav
      Southerners educate the boy so that he can always stand up for himself in a fight, not timid even in front of a strong opponent
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 11 December 2013 21: 00
        +1
        To dig up cases on the Internet how several residents of the Russian Plain extinguish one visiting cheburek?
    3. builder
      builder 11 December 2013 00: 35
      0
      Sex education in most Russian families

      The phrase warped somehow.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 11 December 2013 22: 38
        0
        Quote: stroitel
        The phrase warped somehow.

        Are you just about your feelings, without comments about the subject (about the warping properties of the phrase itself)? The facts upset me more. People call themselves "Cossacks", but they do not act on their own land, neither against the corrupt authorities, nor against the Tsapok bandits. That's what jars
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 10 December 2013 16: 19
    +2
    The author of the article hid his name for a reason. About the people indignant at the murder, everything is in black colors, "a crowd of drunken Nazis." About the authorities, top and local - silence. Although they are the main responsibility. About foreigners, too, is silent.
    1. sleepy
      sleepy 11 December 2013 02: 57
      +2
      Quote: Sergey Medvedev

      "About the authorities, the upper and local - silence. Although they are the main responsibility. About foreigners, too, silence."


      It’s only a pity for the children.
      And they are the future of Russia.
      And what is the future of the country when some children are taken abroad for currency
      "1260 children" adopted "from Russia have disappeared in Italy."
      http://marginal06.livejournal.com/448789.html

      and children of migrants are born in Russia and doctors are required to provide free emergency care.
      Among migrants, the so-called maternity tours to Russia are becoming more popular.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k1FgvrvQLA
      In St. Petersburg, 16 maternity hospitals have been allocated for women in labor from Central Asia.

      At the same time
      "Russia's future grows on asphalt.
      For ten years, the authorities have been fighting the third wave of homelessness,
      but still do not know how many such children are in the country. "
      http://svpressa.ru/society/article/44289/
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  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 10 December 2013 16: 25
    +7
    On the night of December 6 to 7 in the city of Arzamas (Nizhny Novgorod region) Alexander Slakaev, together with a friend and a couple of girls decided to visit the Armenian cafe "Hearth". During the visit, Alexander did not like the food brought, he asked the administrator and expressed his displeasure to him. Five minutes after that Alexander and his friend were called to “talk” to the street, where five people attacked them and began to brutally beat them (oh, this famous Armenian customer service!). The fight ended with the attackers driving a skewer skewer into Slakayev’s heart. Alexander died on the way to the hospital.

    Upon learning of this, the local Russians burst into tears, gathered in a mourning procession and laid flowers at the local monument to the fighters against fascism, recalling 600 Armenians defending the besieged Leningrad. But no, I'm lying. The next day, not hoping for investigative authorities, the Russians gathered a national gathering, on which they demanded not only to plant five killers, but also to expel all ethnic cuisine establishments with such colorful customer service services from the city:

    The frightened policemen had already detained four of the five participants in the fight, but this did not stop the Russians - natural pogroms began in the city.

    In the official media there is information only about the popular gathering, about the fact that the good Russian people began to close establishments of Caucasian cuisine in an explicit manner, there is no information. As well as the fact that riot policemen from the whole region were now catching up with the city, there are massive detentions of protesters, and a typical evening in a quiet Russian province looks like this:


    We warned that in Russia there is a cold interethnic war, which is gradually turning into a hot phase - because the Russians finally got the simple idea that a kind word and pogrom are more effective than just a kind word. The authorities do not offer and cannot offer any systemic way out of the current crisis (since a systematic solution begins with the struggle with the Caucasian mafia, and this requires a 180-degree turn of all rhetoric and politics, this is too much for the elderly tired Putin), therefore in 2014, the number and quality of pogroms will increase, significantly accelerating the collapse of a stable multinational political system that has developed its resource.
    We believe that the new 2014th year will become new in several senses at once (including “you have not seen such a year yet!”).
    http://sputnikipogrom.com/politics/7076/arzamas-pogroms/
    1. calocha
      calocha 10 December 2013 18: 14
      +1
      What are you?! Now it’s not 37 years old! If you do it carefully, pull the communities and ... warn. And then they are hot, but around, you know, they’re cold ..
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  • Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 10 December 2013 17: 08
    +1
    Tryndets is coming. Jumped the local government. They will find a switchman and shoulder straps, but it is necessary to look for puppeteers, those who are in trouble are preparing to make a career for themselves.
  • 128mgb
    128mgb 10 December 2013 17: 52
    +5
    After the words "drunken crowds" I did not read. Guess why?
  • calocha
    calocha 10 December 2013 17: 58
    -2
    That's why they experiment with education, so that there are more "downs", because a brainless herd can be sent anywhere. Pogroms are absolutely superfluous. It will not lead to anything good. Our ancestors were friends with each other. coloring, but the media are more than fulfilling their 20 pieces of silver ...
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 10 December 2013 18: 41
      +6
      Quote: calocha
      No need for ordinary crime to give a national coloring

      If crime is organized on the basis of national diasporas, then it is necessary.


      Quote: calocha
      That's why they experiment with education, so that there are more "downs", because a brainless herd can be sent anywhere

      Downs are those who approve of foreign lawlessness on the native Russian lands. Downs are those who support the current government, pursuing a policy of genocide of the Russian people and the settlement of Russian lands by foreigners. And those people who thought that they didn’t come down were not indifferent to them.
      1. calocha
        calocha 11 December 2013 17: 35
        +1
        And if a general "buchelo" begins, you are sure that we will "take it out", I think that because of the hillock this is the only thing they are waiting for ... With the passage of time, the chebureks themselves will understand that it is expensive for themselves to communicate with the Russians. To introduce the people to a healthy lifestyle. We really do not have enough to be more united.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 11 December 2013 20: 23
          +1
          Government needs to yell
          Better yet, give money for the coaching of those boxers and wrestlers who can and want to lead sections in schools, etc.
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          2. Warrawar
            Warrawar 12 December 2013 02: 57
            +1
            Quote: Stanislav
            Government needs to yell
            Better yet, give money for the coaching of those boxers and wrestlers who can and want to lead sections in schools, etc.

            yes it’s being done slowly, it’s being done ... and many enthusiasts themselves help. Here's an example of Kochergin:
        2. Warrawar
          Warrawar 12 December 2013 02: 43
          +1
          Quote: calocha
          And if a general "buchelo" begins, you are sure that we will "take it out", I think that because of the hillock they are waiting for this only ...

          This does not mean that chaos must be maintained endlessly.

          Quote: calocha
          . The government needs to yell that drinking and smoking is harmful, and fashionable sports and combat sambo, boxing, wrestling. Over time, the chebureks themselves will realize that contacting Russians is more expensive.

          Well, not only the government needs to do this ... This needs to be done by everyone, at least by example.
          You need to realize that the situation around us has changed and you can no longer be in an idle state.
          It is necessary to eradicate the "pseudo-traditions" imposed on us in the form of regular celebrations of all kinds of holidays by consuming vodka and "Olivier" salad. Or gatherings with beer with intimate conversations, about geopolitics and the meaning of life, smoking cigarettes with a mysterious look and everything else.
          Now it’s real, everything is not fashionable and not cool, these are the habits inherent in wimps and losers.
          If you want to sit with friends and talk about life, then it is better to do it with a good tea party, with some sort of tea (for example Puer).
          And sports, sports .... really need to break the situation, otherwise we will end.
  • воронов
    воронов 10 December 2013 18: 00
    +3
    "As a result, drunken crowds of local residents began to smash shops and stalls." - And what, they were all examined, what would make such conclusions?
  • Maxsh
    Maxsh 10 December 2013 18: 25
    +1
    As a result, drunken crowds of locals began to smash shops and stalls.
    Well, at least one non-Russians one hot Caucasian Caucasian father’s bream was weighed, or not?
  • btsypulin
    btsypulin 10 December 2013 18: 28
    +6
    Joseph Vissarionovich, be reborn! By the way, I work not far from Manezhka and I want to say that "they" do not have to purposefully gather, so to speak, give a cry. "they" are always there, wandering in droves, spitting not far from the Kremlin, the Zhukov monument, talking defiantly so that everyone can hear them, looking insolently at women, etc. ...... !!! The cops are close and do not make comments !!! When will it end !!! ??? I am ashamed of our government !!!
  • 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 10 December 2013 18: 56
    +4
    In Russia, of course, everyone is equal before the law, but there are also more equal ... Therefore, ordinary people take to the streets, knowing that "THESE" will buy off their scum.
    There was such a punishment measure in tsarist Russia: restriction of the right to residence of a certain person within the specified territory. Only now to apply it in modern conditions should be extended the specified punishment to the scum's relatives.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 10 December 2013 23: 09
      0
      Quote: 11111mail.ru
      In Russia, of course, everyone is equal before the law, but there are more equal ones ...

      I recalled - “Adam Sultanovich had a golden gun - I don’t know where, - and we decided to stop all actions,” and equal among the equals.
  • nikcris
    nikcris 10 December 2013 19: 13
    +3
    Some kind of madhouse ... Kazakhs from Uralsk have forced me out.
    I bought all the filthy money
    an apartment in Russia. In 1994. I am repairing. Doorbell. I open - a Tajik elder with a child in her arms asks for BREAD. Shouldn't I give money?
    Month ago. Tajiks repairing the roof at my entrance.
    I go to the site - a Tajik drags a ton on his back, but he says to me - hello. I should not have answered - Good afternoon?
    Each particular person is close to me, but "fraternal peoples" are not needed.
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  • Yurgens
    Yurgens 10 December 2013 19: 13
    +5
    for a long time it’s time to fuck them and mordovorot, who sit on the ground, they also type, first they look through their fingers, and then the red ones with bulging eyes sit justified, you have to work and not to take bribes from the chocks, and according to the laws to communicate with them. It's time to educate them, if the government does not want to, I am not against blacks, but oh ... no need to wail.
  • 2я19
    2я19 10 December 2013 19: 24
    +1
    And where are the Armenians going? Hanging between heaven and earth, and want to be between a rock and a hard place? They are just those who are not cut so well by others ... But in general, first of all, it is necessary to punish the Russian witnesses who lamented into the phone and nothing else ... In all such murders there are enough of such "comrades".
  • Yurgens
    Yurgens 10 December 2013 19: 30
    +2
    Why do you have enough of them? because people do not feel justice, do you think this is one case? today they pounded one, tomorrow there is no punishment for others, cops FSUs, the lumps become impudent, enough time to misfire in a normal way, the same riot police would drop in this "hearth", put them all in cancer, after that they will think to get involved or not.
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 10 December 2013 20: 07
      +2
      Chock can not be offended, they are for Putin and the United vote.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 10 December 2013 19: 43
    +4
    The police reluctantly acknowledge the fact of pogroms, trying not to call a spade a spade

    Where was this police before? sheared coupons?
    What do not know where these shalmans or do not know who contains them?
    HERE WHO ANYWHERE ON THE FORUM KNOWS ITS PLOT ???
    SHARE PLEASE !!!
    1. Normal
      Normal 11 December 2013 00: 52
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      HERE WHO ANYWHERE ON THE FORUM KNOWS ITS PLOT ???
      SHARE PLEASE !!!

      I know. For the acquisition of trauma and smoothbore, the conclusion of the district police officer is required. Although permissive is also the police. The department is one, but you need to take the paper in one corner and present it to another. Well, here I met - without a "tool" now, no matter how
  • killganoff
    killganoff 10 December 2013 20: 06
    +6
    Almost all cops walk under Caucasians, and this is no secret for a long time. The authorities are conniving at foreigners, and the indigenous people are dying out. The state policy is aimed at this. We are superfluous here, the Russians too often let all those who were thirsty for the Russian land "shit". So they replace Us with the poor.
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 10 December 2013 20: 19
    +4
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  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 10 December 2013 20: 41
    +1
    Quote: smile
    soldier's grandson
    1. I do not know what a "musarnya" is.
    2. I am not involved in the deletion of your posts, I do not have the authority to do so, although I believe that they are dear there.
    3. All people without exception are subject to professional deformation; this depends on the type of human activity. Google what it is, then you will not write nonsense later.
    4. Judging by how you relate to law enforcement, you have personal unpleasant experiences associated with them. Have you been delayed or maybe made accountable? I can’t say that I sympathize. :)))
    Or are you a victim of werewolves in uniform? As I understand it, they bit you, and that’s why you behave that way. :)))

    judging by how you are here protecting the chureks and splashing tolerant diarrhea, you either work in a musarna or a hereditary trash can that treats the people like garbage judging by your comments, and the attitude towards people like you because in real life I saw how migrants are prescribed in batches, like you can bring an innocent person under a difficult article, like a colleague in a musarna let his colleague under "extortion" in order not to repay him, maybe not all of them, but the impression is not the best
    1. 2я19
      2я19 10 December 2013 20: 59
      +1
      Trash trades in law? So trades the Motherland! And chocks are buyers, and they behave like buyers! And each cop, I repeat, everyone, trades in the law ...
  • darksoul
    darksoul 10 December 2013 20: 54
    +4
    the media will prove with foam at the mouth that bytovuha, cops will protect emigrants, detain ours ..... well, and how does the government want people to not increase nationalist sentiment? in this situation, any normal person will say to drive them from here nah - n, shoot