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Economic methods Prime Minister Medvedev sent to the furnace?

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Last month of the year - it's time to sum up the most diverse results. At a minimum, one of the areas in which the results look not at all what they would like to see is the Russian economy. The indicators of economic growth in the country are far from those due to which the representatives of the authorities could easily fulfill their social obligations and track the precise implementation of programs in various fields of activity.


One of the problems that determine the unintelligible growth of the Russian economy, experts see the problem of the lack of strategic planning at the state level. There are only some separate and not always related programs and plans. However, they often come into the world, let's say, stillborn due to the fact that the people who composed them do not care either about the rationale for specifying specific sources of funding, or whether these programs contradict (at least, financial level) to each other in general. Recently, there have been quite a few government projects, the financial base for which was fed into the discharge, “we allocate what we have, and then (if everything is not plundered) a private investor comes in and maybe adds money to implement the plan.” Somewhere the investor came, somewhere - no. Most often - it did not come ... In the end, the implementation of such programs rested on underfunding or outright theft from "responsible" individuals. The program was withering, and the reports devoted to the results of its implementation were either not published at all or were published in a form from which, as they say, the mind came to mind even among professional bookworms ... Like, you want to understand how the program was implemented - try it ...

As an example, we can take the federal target program "Social Development of the Village". The program completed its work in 2012, which makes you think about the fact that the social development of the village took place, or that the program eventually turned out to be something wrong ... And the second option, although regrettable, looks more plausible. . Perhaps the only point of this program, which was more or less “decently” implemented, is “providing rural settlements with communications”. The implementation went through the installation of telephone sets on rural streets, which were supposed to provide the villagers a connection "with the outside world", but which, apparently, very few people use ... And the social development of the village in the form of an increase in the number of jobs, the development of the peasant subsidies maintenance of schools and FAP with the funds allocated has flowed into the sand.

But in the final report on this program is this:

Taking into account the implementation of the program’s measures, the tendency to improve the overall situation in the social and labor sphere of the village has been preserved.


The migration decline of the rural population has decreased due to the creation of more favorable and comfortable living conditions in the countryside and measures taken by the Government of the Russian Federation to support the agro-industrial complex within the framework of the priority national project "Development of the AIC".


The greatest results were achieved in solving problems of improving the living conditions of rural residents.

In rural areas, the growth in the provision of housing stock with all types of utility equipment continued, which made it possible to reduce the backlog of the village from the city in certain types of engineering equipment.


Then everything is in the same spirit.

When you get acquainted with these points of the report, you wonder: in which villages did official monitoring take place? If only in Tsarskoye Selo or in some “Rublevka-Village”, then everything fits ...

And after all these points of reports are read by the highest state officials! If they really believe what has been written, then, as stated in one well-known work, “it is badly done” ... Although the point here is that they (state officials) “must be trusted”. If you don’t believe, you’ll have to move: to search for money that was, excuse me, “killed” it is not known what, to search for the guilty, to bring the program to the end in manual control mode. And who of the high-ranking officials today is ready to do this? .. As the saying goes, "an overwhelming minority." That is why the reports are hemmed with the look that they really reflect the real state of affairs. Everyone is happy, thank you all for the work ...

Experts point out one of the ways out of the current situation: the revival of the state planning system - a system that would not only set tasks related to the development of the economy, but also control the execution of these tasks (with all the inherent responsibility). That is, we are talking about a kind of revival of the USSR State Planning Committee.

Economic methods Prime Minister Medvedev sent to the furnace?


This is a very urgent task today, which can lead to positive developments in the Russian economy. Moreover, the example of the USSR is not the only one here. Strategic planning with a clear definition of responsible persons is implemented, for example, in China. Even in the European Union, with all the words about liberalism in the economy there, there is a program of medium-term planning with goal-setting and monitoring the results of achieving the goals. In our country, there is still such an option, in which the economy resembles a blind man who was pushed under a soft spot and forced to go on voice - a voice mostly with a foreign (English) accent ... The state planning system could well help the blind see the light and go there where he needs himself, not his outside conscripts.

Conversations that the State Planning Commission could be revived in Russia began to show themselves with particular activity immediately after the release of the sensational May decrees of Vladimir Putin. One of these decrees is called "On the long-term state economic policy." Based on this decree, a draft law “On State Strategic Planning” was prepared, which last year passed the first reading in the State Duma, but was then postponed “indefinitely”. Today this bill is ready for the Duma discussion in the second reading. And there are all chances for it to take the form of a law by the beginning of next year.

The hyper-liberals from economics and politics immediately whispered that the new law could finally consolidate the role of the state as one of the main regulators of the Russian economy. They say, again, "the five-year plan in three years" and everything like that ... Well, such lamentations are understandable. After all, if the qualitative plan for the strategic development of industries will be translated into reality, the economy will become more transparent. But a transparent economy is like a knife to the hearts of people trying to catch their fish in troubled waters of lack of financial and economic goal setting. There will be a plan, there will be control - less opportunities will remain for “interested” individuals to chop off “their own” percentage of the state funding of a particular program.

In this regard, the following fact looks interesting: in 2011, when Dmitry Medvedev, the head of state, was in office, answering the question about the possibility of reviving the Gosplan equivalent, said:
You said Gosplan to revive. But this is part of a different economic system, and we are unlikely to need it.
At the same time, Putin (who was then at the premiership) said that Gosplan as such would not be revived in Russia, but a strategic planning method could be implemented in the country, just as it was done in a number of countries with fast-growing economies.

As soon as Putin took office as president in 2012, he signed the decree “On long-term state economic policy” mentioned above, which, in essence, became the starting point for the revival of state economic development strategy. At the beginning of 2013, a document prepared by a group of academics headed by Sergei Glazyev lay on the table of President Putin. The document contained proposals for a radical review of the methods of economic management: a move away from the leading economic hyper-liberalism, supported by Dmitry Medvedev, with a simultaneous transition to state strategic planning in the economy. By the way, at that time Glazyev’s proposal was called very promising and even gave it the promising name “counter-Cuba economy”. This refers to the departure from the system of privatization polls, which certain gentlemen are now ready to present as the main panacea for the Russian economy, with control over the progress of the tasks set by the state.
Apparently, the president seriously pondered over this proposal, but continued to observe what the governmental steps in the field of economic development would lead to. Today, even a non-specialist perfectly understands that these steps have not led to anything positive: the “blind” continued to walk, fall, crawl, and step on numerous rakes (corruption, uncontrolled privatization of state property, pshik projects) ...

If a non-specialist understands, then the president should understand this by definition. And if he understands, and if strategic planning returns to the Russian economy, then this is a clear blow to hyperliberal economic methods cultivated by the government. In fact, a variant of liberonomy can finally go “into the furnace” as untenable and destructive. Will the government itself be sent "into the furnace"? Everything is much more complicated here ...

However, even if the state strategy returns to economic planning, I would like to hope that the system will be built efficiently and not only on paper. And then it will turn out the same way as with the village social development program discussed above: everything is fine, a beautiful marquise ...
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  1. sergant89
    sergant89 10 December 2013 08: 38
    62
    When already this guy with an iPhone will go into gadgets to cut without interruption for any trifle such as managing the country.
    1. Fin
      Fin 10 December 2013 09: 35
      24
      Assessing the activities of his own government, Dmitry Medvedev expressed his conviction that it took place as an "absolutely workable team", and no radical changes are required in it. "Everyone is in their place, everyone is working," he said.

      Until he is asked along with all the loafers he will not leave. He is doing well, and if the economy is not growing, then this is temporary and objective reasons - a crisis.
      If you don’t remove it, we’ll stagnate.
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 10 December 2013 10: 59
        22
        LADY, by right, only to places not so distant is time to "ask to get out" ... There he belongs.
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      2. vezunchik
        vezunchik 10 December 2013 19: 43
        +6
        An example is the Federal Target Program “Social Development of the Village”. The program completed its work in 2012, which makes us think either that the social development of the village took place, or that something was wrong with the program in the end ...
        DRIVE AROUND THE COUNTRYSIDE ... DEVELOPMENT AS AFTER CIVIL ...
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      4. yur
        yur 10 December 2013 20: 24
        +4
        And it’s good if only on the spot. I'm afraid with DAM at the head, the economy will only dive.
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 10 December 2013 09: 50
      34
      . it is a kind of revival of the USSR State Planning Commission... (from article)


      Finally, they started talking about the revival of a planned state economy in state-controlled industries.
      Medvedev and his government, as a brake on the development of the Russian economy, must be dismissed and kept close to public service. Let him go to teach jurisprudence, as they say what he studied.
      More than 20 years of development of the Russian economy in a sea of ​​market, business and finance without sails and steering, that is, without a plan, have proved the absurdity of the ideology of liberals.
      It remains to wait for concrete measures by President Putin to resign and land those responsible for the destruction of the economy and corruption. Will we wait? Doubts are gnawing.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 10 December 2013 20: 23
        +3
        And Cho to drive it? Medvedev does business - transfers social services. load from the shoulders of the state on the shoulders of society. He is in his place. I even stopped noticing comments in the style of "Oh, they will wait for the people to pick them up," after the next modernization of services from the State. So the slogan "We are E№ut, and we are getting stronger" is quite relevant for today's life.
      2. wei
        wei 11 December 2013 19: 34
        +1
        It remains to wait for concrete measures by President Putin to resign and land those responsible for the destruction of the economy and corruption. Will we wait? Doubts are gnawing.

        Putin drift pretty fed up (smoke, stink, fire, and VAZ sorry WHOand now there)
        wanted to say about plannedness, the destruction of standardization
        (Soviet was, IMHO, one of the best in the world) led to a mess in everything, including in the assessment of officials
    3. Apollo
      Apollo 10 December 2013 10: 00
      20
      Quote: sergant89
      When is this guy already ......

      Based on the logic of the picture exhibited by you, D. Medvedev should have been removed from his post for a long time.
      Question.
      Why not suspended?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 10: 08
        +3
        Quote: Apollon
        Why not suspended?

        MOSCOW, 10 DEC - RIA News. The Russian government plans in five years to increase labor productivity at industrial enterprises by 50%, by 2020 of the year, 25 million modern jobs will be created in the country, said Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
        Now, if he can do it, then let him continue to work.
        hi apollo hi
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 10 December 2013 10: 34
          10
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          hi apollo

          Good afternoon Alexander hi


          Russia will write off 29 billion dollars of Soviet debt to Cuba
          Representatives of Russia and Cuba signed an agreement according to which 90% of the debt of the times of the Soviet Union totaling 32 billion dollars will be written off from the island state, this will open the way to investment and revitalization of trade, Reuters reports with reference to Russian and European diplomats.
          The final agreement was signed in Moscow in October. Under its terms, Cuba will pay the remaining 3,2 billion dollars of debt over 10 years. The document should be approved by the State Duma, reports RIA Novosti.
          http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/12/10/663587.html
          The question arises, on what basis are they disposing of the public property as their own. I can object and write an ally, to hell with such an ally. National interests are above all.
          I assure you that the remaining 3.2 billion dollars will also be written off. The one who signed the stake agreement. am
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 10: 39
            +8
            Quote: Apollon
            .The one who signed the agreement to count.

            And the one who sent Medvedev to sign agreements where or on what?
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 10 December 2013 10: 43
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And the one who sent Medvedev to sign agreements where or on what?

              Here it is necessary to fantasize that it was very, very painful
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 10: 47
                +9
                Quote: Apollon
                Here it is necessary to fantasize that it was very, very painful

                And what is there to fantasize, you need to know the conditions under which we wrote off the loan. Yes, and rely on the fact that Cuba has ever given it stupid. That would be 32 billion dollars to the USSR economy at one time hi
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 10 December 2013 10: 52
                  +7
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  And what is there to fantasize, you need to know on what conditions we wrote off the credit

                  Surely on the same conditions as in relation to the rest. Russia is a generous soul.This money is money of descendants.
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, and rely on the fact that Cuba has ever given it stupidly

                  Let him provide a base of years that way on the 99. Under the Russian Navy.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 11: 25
                    +4
                    Quote: Apollon
                    Let him provide a base of years that way on the 99. Under the Russian Navy.

                    Well, when we find out what the conditions were, then we’ll think. It’s just that such grandmas don’t write off their beautiful eyes.
                    1. Apollo
                      Apollo 10 December 2013 11: 53
                      +7
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Well, when we find out what the conditions were, then we’ll think about

                      Sasha may happen that we will never know.
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Just such beautiful grandmothers do not write off for beautiful eyes.

                      Anything can be expected from the Russian government led by Medvedev.
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 13: 11
                        10
                        Quote: Apollon
                        Sasha may happen that we will never know.

                        Apollo, amid the latest write-offs, we received something in return. Look for it yourself.
                        Quote: Apollon

                        Anything can be expected from the Russian government led by Medvedev.

                        Medvedev cannot make such decisions on his own. Nor can he do that. What paranoia does everyone blame Medvedev on everyone on the site. Does our country have a president at all ????
                    2. Andrey Yuryevich
                      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2013 03: 15
                      +1
                      The reasons why Russia went to forgiveness of debts are not fully known. According to some reports, this is due to the search for oil by Russian companies on the Cuban shelf.

                      Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/12/10/1209316.html
                  2. silver_roman
                    silver_roman 10 December 2013 14: 12
                    +3
                    I think they were not against the base in the 60s, and now they would not mind. Another thing is how the "world democrat" will react to the base under his arm !!!
                    1. yur
                      yur 10 December 2013 20: 31
                      0
                      Well, I’ve already been so scared.
              2. alone
                alone 10 December 2013 22: 57
                +3
                I offer the 32mm fittings, it is corrugated, and the count is smooth. And you can still bend it a bit so that it can be pulled out wassat
          2. Hort
            Hort 10 December 2013 13: 10
            +3
            Russia will write off 29 billion dollars of Soviet debt to Cuba
            But instead of writing off and speculating that this will open the way for investment and trade, it would be necessary to take concretely and "buy back" Cuban enterprises (which are) and land with real estate at the expense of debts. Invest in the rest
          3. silver_roman
            silver_roman 10 December 2013 14: 15
            +4
            I didn’t want to break into your dialogue. there are just a couple of points:

            Quote: Apollon
            Russia will write off 29 billion dollars of Soviet debt to Cuba

            Since we are already claiming the position of a world power, so it is necessary to pay for our interests around the world. I'm sure the states are not out of the kindness of their souls allocating billions of "aid" to countries that go to all kinds of NGOs!

            That the debt was written off, the CBA would never have paid it in life. Well, maybe after 200 years, provided that things in their economy would go uphill).

            I am sure the decision was made personally by Putin (not lower than the rank for sure), because DAM is not capable of this. Perhaps now is the right moment ... to guess is not a thankful task!
            1. wax
              wax 10 December 2013 15: 08
              +3
              You can pay even more for Cuba, especially since the debts are generally fake (at the rate of the 70s with interest) and unpaid. Shall we wait for Fidel to die and Cuba to turn towards the States? And let us settle in our parochialism? However, the Americans will gladly pay us lousy billions by annexing Cuba as another state. Also, we must not forget that in the 90s we betrayed Cuba, leaving it to its own devices, thereby causing significant economic damage to it. I don’t think that the Cubans will immediately forget about the insidiousness of their Russian "brother". We are claiming the role of a world power, so the account is taken by other measures.
              1. silver_roman
                silver_roman 10 December 2013 18: 26
                +2
                I agree in general, but:
                Quote: Wax
                do not forget that in the 90s we betrayed Cuba, leaving it to the mercy of fate, thereby causing significant economic damage to it

                I can’t take it seriously.
                in the 90s, our country fell apart, people lost everything ... so at that time it was not very convenient to think about foreign economic assistance to CUBA.
                All the same, how much the USSR helped Libya itself, and when it stood on the brink, it didn’t wait for anything ... although it seemed to ask !!! So we owe nothing to anyone, but we have to pay to get positions in the world!

                ps by the way, they’re clutching each other’s legs ... I hope it won’t go any further:
                http://vz.ru/news/2013/12/10/663672.html
          4. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 10 December 2013 17: 12
            0
            Quote: Apollon
            Russia will write off 29 billion dollars of Soviet debt to Cuba
            The one who signed the stake agreement.
          5. igor67
            igor67 10 December 2013 19: 23
            +2
            Quote: Apollon
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            hi apollo

            Good afternoon Alexander hi


            Russia will write off 29 billion dollars of Soviet debt to Cuba
            Representatives of Russia and Cuba signed an agreement according to which 90% of the debt of the times of the Soviet Union totaling 32 billion dollars will be written off from the island state, this will open the way to investment and revitalization of trade, Reuters reports with reference to Russian and European diplomats.
            The final agreement was signed in Moscow in October. Under its terms, Cuba will pay the remaining 3,2 billion dollars of debt over 10 years. The document should be approved by the State Duma, reports RIA Novosti.
            http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/12/10/663587.html
            The question arises, on what basis are they disposing of the public property as their own. I can object and write an ally, to hell with such an ally. National interests are above all.
            I assure you that the remaining 3.2 billion dollars will also be written off. The one who signed the stake agreement. am

            So Cuba filed a counterclaim for 15 mln dollars, for this demarche Russia refused to help Cuba altogether, so they decided not to bend completely to return 3 mlr
          6. morpex
            morpex 10 December 2013 19: 54
            +1
            Quote: Apollon
            Russia will write off 29 billion dollars of Soviet debt to Cuba

            Choi then writes off to hell. Do not you find?
            1. morpex
              morpex 10 December 2013 19: 57
              +1
              Quote: morpex
              Quote: Apollon
              Russia will write off 29 billion dollars of Soviet debt to Cuba

              Choi then writes off to hell. Do not you find?

              And a little more ...
              1. alone
                alone 10 December 2013 23: 01
                +7
                but for their citizens to forgive debts for utilities is a very big problem !! what
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 11 December 2013 06: 32
              0
              Quote: morpex

              Choi then writes off to hell. Do not you find?

              When Russia will write off debt to Ukraine, remember your koment wink
            3. pawel1961
              pawel1961 12 December 2013 17: 50
              0
              socialism is more profitable than capitalism.
        2. Nina Czerny
          Nina Czerny 10 December 2013 10: 55
          15
          The complete ignorance of Medvedev and the complete incompetence of his and the current managers is evidenced by the quote you quoted about an increase in labor productivity by 50% (!) Percent in five (!) Years. There are no such examples in the world, because increasing labor productivity even by a few percent requires colossal costs. And here liberals write something out of the blue, for which they are not responsible, and, most importantly, they never prescribe measures to realize their fantasies, let alone the fact that industrial enterprises are so different that they all plan to increase labor by 50 % That's just funny. Better to put forward the slogan "Catch up and overtake America." Otherwise, with all the current projects, we will soon slide from the "developing" countries into the primitive communal ones.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 10 December 2013 11: 05
            +6
            Quote: Nina Cerny
            The complete ignorance of Medvedev and the complete incompetence of him and current managers


            What a pop ....
          2. aksakal
            aksakal 10 December 2013 12: 49
            +6
            Quote: Nina Cerny
            There are no such examples in the world, because increasing labor productivity even by several percent requires enormous expenses

            - there may be a "novice bodybuilder effect" versus an "old pitching effect". A thin person came to the pitching hall, never rocked. The first six months he has results, as they say, "twig", for six months from the beginning of regular classes people can easily double all the results! Or even triple! Then stabilization begins, and then, in general, the struggle for grams literally!
            Russia in general has not yet fought for productivity and even intentionally jumped away from it. Then Yarosvet was indignant at the low minimum wage of Russia, they say, the low minimum wage is the cause of all Russia's ills! laughing laughing
            We have already discussed examples when an entrepreneur who owns a mine would be happy to equip the mine with automation, but then, three-quarters of the miners need to be driven out! And on the part of local authorities there is a ban on the re-equipment of the mine, so to speak, in order to avoid.
            Another aspect - we increase labor productivity, drive people out into the street, but immediately build new capacities and then immediately employ people, until they lose their qualifications, before that, having taught new technologies ... It is clear that the production of goods will increase significantly. It needs to SELL. We need sales markets! So, what do you think, for Ukraine they are fighting like that? For beautiful Ukrainian girls? Why is the West so clung to? and 45 million consumers? - and everyone needs to eat, wear something, ride something, live somewhere ... Nobody is going to give their markets to Russia just like that. Moreover, as we see, they are still brazenly trying to chop off. And I’m even afraid, it’s very successful - if anything from the Maidan so far, none of the "representatives of the rippers" left laughing We conclude that before embarking on an increase in labor productivity, you need to work a little elbows in geopolitics. And it seems to me that Putin does it a little.
            So. First, we bring under our influence as many states as near and far abroad. So close that you can count on the fact that these are sales markets. We give the go-ahead to those entrepreneurs who have long wanted to be automated. At the same time, we are sharply raising the minimum wage several times and increasing control over migration, so that those entrepreneurs who do not want to be automated, they say, “are easier to hire Uzbeks,” give a good kick on this topic. Then there WILL BE THE EFFECT OF PRODUCTIVITY GROWTH at times, like a young jock. And then there will be stabilization.
            1. Ustas
              Ustas 10 December 2013 13: 47
              +2
              Quote: aksakal
              It needs to be SELLED. Need markets!
              Before embarking on an increase in labor productivity, you need to work a little elbows in geopolitics.

              Well, yes, their domestic market has long been profiled.
            2. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 10 December 2013 17: 31
              +2
              Quote: aksakal
              the businessman who owns the mine would be happy to equip the mine with automation, but then, three-quarters of the miners must be driven out into the street!
              Come on more dear laughing

              What is the correlation between the share of salary in the average transaction amount per person, which is 3-6 times lower in Russia than in developed countries, and the lack of automation supposedly avoiding layoffs?

              Another aspect - we increase labor productivity, we drive people out into the streets, but we immediately build new capacities and here we immediately employ people until we have lost our qualifications, before learning new technologies ... It is clear that the production of goods will grow significantly. It needs to be SELLED. Need markets!
              Ingenious laughing
              And didn’t you try to go beyond the existing paradigm? Reduce work shift for example?
              Or do you think this should not be done, since such a state of affairs will lead to the deprivation of the bourgeoisie of their "holy right" to alienate the products of their labor from ordinary workers? laughing
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 10 December 2013 22: 38
                +2
                Quote: Yarosvet
                And didn’t you try to go beyond the existing paradigm? Reduce work shift for example?
                - Surprisingly, I agree here, I like the idea of ​​reducing the work shift without falling living standards. And I really do not like the idea of ​​Prokhorov (and he, like a jackal Tabaki, was echoed by the seemingly good actor Yarmolnik) to increase the working week to 60 hours a week. As well as the "Courchevel" itself.
                As for correlations - teach the materiel yourself. If you haven’t been to China, take a trip. It’s not like automation, construction cranes are not very favoring, preferring to do without them if they don’t really need them at all. Try to guess why?
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 10 December 2013 23: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: aksakal
                  About correlations - teach the materiel yourself

                  That is, to answer weakly smile

                  Well, tady, I’ll tell you something: there is no correlation between meager salaries and automation to avoid dismissals - there is a correlation between meager salaries and expensive automation (low-paying bourgeois is currently more profitable)
          3. Shur
            Shur 10 December 2013 22: 27
            +1
            Duck he is a lawyer ... a broad specialization ..
          4. alone
            alone 10 December 2013 23: 03
            +2
            Quote: Nina Cerny
            You cited about increasing labor productivity by 50% (!) Percent for five (!) Years. There are no such examples in the world, because increasing labor productivity by even a few percent requires enormous costs.


            with the current state of the enterprises, to achieve this result in 5 years is bullshit. These are the next promises like "don't die, my donkey, that spring will come, you will have grass!"
        3. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 10 December 2013 17: 09
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The Government of the Russian Federation plans to increase labor productivity at industrial enterprises by 50% in five years; by 2020, 25 million modern jobs will be created in the country
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 10 December 2013 18: 38
            +2
            I will not dispute or double-check the table data. given by you, but I can say for sure that its conclusions are not true.
            The result is plausible provided that jobs and conditions for them will develop evenly, which does not happen in principle. there is always growth and always stagnation ... how lucky. If you take a business, then the first period with a competent businessman policy is the most difficult.
            Of course, I’m not saying that Putin will fulfill everything he said, you simply can’t make predictions on such calculations!
            what if tomorrow in Russia some technology will be patented that will advance science 100 years in advance? and there are factories and jobs. This is me for example !!!)
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 10 December 2013 18: 54
              -1
              Quote: silver_roman
              you can’t make predictions on such calculations!

              Do on the trends.
              1. silver_roman
                silver_roman 11 December 2013 11: 40
                0
                it’ll turn out too rude ... it’s better to refrain from forecasts in order not to look like a fool later.
                Well, in general, of course, the numbers are not real ... with today's trends hi
          2. alone
            alone 10 December 2013 23: 05
            0
            almost impossible mission. if judged by the numbers to make the promise, it takes tens of years and trillions of rubles.
        4. polkownik1
          polkownik1 10 December 2013 20: 15
          +1
          Sorry, he (DAM) has done absolutely nothing in previous years. He can never do absolutely nothing, because he is not capable of doing (not giving instructions, but doing). Are you suggesting that we wait another five years - what if he can, then let him work? Well no !
        5. zvereok
          zvereok 10 December 2013 20: 26
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          MOSCOW, 10 DEC - RIA News. The Russian government plans in five years to increase labor productivity at industrial enterprises by 50%, by 2020 of the year, 25 million modern jobs will be created in the country, said Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
          Now, if he can do it, then let him continue to work.
          hi apollo


          In 2020, he will put forward the slogan of 2040. Old slogans will be forgotten, a new electorate will grow up. Continuity, so to speak, of generations. And shit tap.
      2. Ustas
        Ustas 10 December 2013 13: 41
        +2
        Quote: Apollon
        Why not suspended?

        Because the guarantor does not give up.
      3. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 10 December 2013 17: 02
        +5
        Quote: Apollon
        Question.
        Why not suspended?
    4. Heccrbq.3
      Heccrbq.3 10 December 2013 10: 27
      +5
      Never, he is part of the System, as well as Serdyukov.
    5. starshina78
      starshina78 10 December 2013 18: 44
      +2
      about Medvedev, we can say that he lives separately from the country, you are some kind of his own little world, consisting of iPhones, tablets, and the rest of the rubbish, and as for the economy, he has his own opinion on it. When he sits surrounded by reporters from leading TV companies, and talks about the economy, the development of production, increasing labor productivity and increasing jobs by 25 million, the question arises: “What country is he talking about?” Or about the pension reform, that he is already I calculated how much she would receive a pension when she was 70 years old. Is this a mockery of us? His calls to retire later are bullshit! More than half of the men barely - barely live to 60. And the statement that the pension will be calculated on the basis of seniority and salary, and that an average salary of 28600 rubles is needed, and then there will be a decent pension - these words of his say that I and many are in my position, whose experience is above the roof (by retirement in 2015 I will have 42 years), and salary of 15600, and many have even less, we can remain with a penny pension. One gets the impression that the state is so concerned about us that soon it will come to dust.
    6. kris
      kris 10 December 2013 23: 13
      +1
      Quote: sergant89
      When already this guy with an iPhone will go into gadgets to cut without interruption for any trifle such as managing the country.

      when the stork lord says.
  2. Christian
    Christian 10 December 2013 08: 42
    +5
    Putin, the henchman of the world oligarchic "international", is clear from his deeds (some gasoline prices in the largest producer country will say more about him than the words that he "shed about the welfare of the people" in 13 years). Moreover, he does not have any state planning will admit, if it at least in some way infringes Abramoderipasok. Under the existing regime, this is not possible ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 09: 10
      12
      Quote: Christian
      . With the existing mode, it is not possible ...

      In Russia there is no regime, in Russia the president is legally elected president of the people of Russia. And let your world government go to hell, to a well-known address.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 December 2013 09: 28
      +4
      Quote: Christian
      Putin is the protégé of the world oligarchic "international"


      Not properly. Putin is the successor to Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin. The first president of the Russian Federation. In his latest book, Notes of the President, Yeltsin writes that when he was appointed prime minister, he already knew that Putin would be the successor.

      On the anniversary of his death at Yeltsin's grave, Putin said "The turbulent 90s were a time of rapid change and courageous extraordinary people - individuals capable of going against the tide, calling for new goals and leading masses of people."
      "Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, without any exaggeration, belonged precisely to such an outstanding galaxy," Putin is convinced.

      In the picture, the President is awarding the President with the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, 1st Class.
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 10 December 2013 10: 56
        +7
        Quote: Vadivak
        Not properly. Putin is the successor to Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin. The first president of the Russian Federation. In his latest book, Notes of the President, Yeltsin writes that when he was appointed prime minister, he already knew that Putin would be the successor.


        Vladimir Vladimirovich probably gave the Yeltsin familyguarantees of immunity from possible criminal prosecution.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 10 December 2013 11: 01
          +7
          Quote: Apollon
          Vladimir Vladimirovich must have given the Yeltsin family a guarantee against possible criminal prosecution.


          And mine too. Although he is divorced. This is Know-How.

          Federal Law of February 12, 2001 N 12-FZ "On guarantees to the President of the Russian Federation, who has terminated the exercise of his powers, and members of his family" (with amendments and additions)
          1. vadson
            vadson 10 December 2013 15: 13
            +2
            what then to demand from him that he would land a lady if he, as a former president, is inviolable.
            1. Ustas
              Ustas 11 December 2013 11: 44
              0
              Quote: vadson
              what then to demand from him that he would land a lady if he, as a former president, is inviolable.

              Well, why sit down, let DAMA leave for teaching, and put the premiere of a more active patriotic in his place.
          2. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 10 December 2013 17: 39
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            And mine too

            At the same time, he once again violated the Constitution, the implementation of the provisions of which he must guarantee.
    3. Averias
      Averias 10 December 2013 09: 37
      +9
      Quote: Christian
      Putin is the protégé of the world oligarchic "international"


      Actually, it is not difficult to see what Putin thinks about the "World Government" (ugh, it's disgusting in the language, I hate this expression). Why would he, the president (owner) of a huge and rich country, listen to a bunch of senile people with rotten ambitions. They want to divide us up, but Putin does not think so. Many people say (and the West too) that Putin is the Tsar. And that, well, yes - the Tsar, he gives them a fig with butter, so they rage. And in order not to be unfounded, I will give a tiny example.
      This Putin, in spite of everything, was not afraid (and time then was eh - hard times) and tore the slave agreement of SORP (production sharing agreement). Although many leaders of other countries ended badly when they tried to crank the same feint. But ours is nothing, lives and lives. So who is afraid of whom - this is a very big question. And Russia (Russia), always tried to spread rot. And the boyars were corrupt, but there were a lot of things.

      PS It is interesting to see what you would do if you were in his place? Options: "Yes, I would uuuh, I would put everyone in camps, nationalize everything, arrange communism, since we have a lot of oil and gas, and indeed resources in general. Please do not offer such options - absurdity. The power of capital, which has developed in in our country (well, it happened) and around the world - you just can't beat it. When it comes to big money, wars start. But balancing on the "razor's edge" and continuing to follow your line is aerobatics. Yes, bye, things inside the country are far from excellent. But not everything is so gloomy as they paint us. There is "civilized" Europe, gradually slipping into barbarism. In Germany, unemployment among people of 30 years, reaches 43%. Not enough? That's why they drag them to the EU all in a row, markets are needed, minerals are needed, territories are needed. Whom did Europe help? It cannot help itself.
      1. dmb
        dmb 10 December 2013 11: 33
        +9
        In light of the sore praise, can there be only one question? What line does Putin follow internally, and whether this line suits the majority. When answering, a kind request: do not use expressions like "but there is no other", "everything is not so simple", and "the people chose him."
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 10 December 2013 13: 27
        +2
        You, dear, are very mistaken, the SORP has not been canceled, they continue to do well for themselves, to be sure of this, take and read the government's reports on the implementation of such agreements. Only a few were canceled. the most odious. type "Sakhalin-1" and "Sakhalin-2". hi
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 10 December 2013 17: 45
          +1
          Quote: Andrey57
          Only a few were canceled. the most odious. type "Sakhalin-1" and "Sakhalin-2".

          Yes, they work - and Sakhalin 1,2, and Kharyaginskoe. After the adoption of 19-FZ, there were no others.
      3. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 10 December 2013 17: 43
        0
        Quote: Averias
        This Putin, in spite of everything, was not afraid (and time then was eh - hard times) and tore off the slave agreement of SORP (production sharing agreement)

        What exactly did he "rip" and when? laughing

        1. Shur
          Shur 10 December 2013 23: 18
          +1
          It’s good that there is criticism, only GDP as an iceberg in a haul .. there is plenty of something under water .. but judging by the surface is unrealistic.
        2. Averias
          Averias 11 December 2013 05: 46
          -1
          And you were there, I mean Sakhalin - 1 and 2? I was here, and I saw how and what, how it was then and how now. Foreigners are present, yes, no one argues. But they don’t eat breakfast for $ 200, and they don’t take 80 cents from the dollar they received. And the 450 million dollars we owe them. After the rupture of SORP, we will not give them back, and they have come to terms with this.

          And the fact that Sakhalin -1,2 is working - why should they have been closed? Also, we changed the rules of foreign companies that at one time, "stuck" to the extraction of diamonds and gold. It terribly does not suit them, but they do not even think about leaving. Since the profit is still excellent, no matter how the media say.
          Anyway, less need to believe the Internet.
    4. Shur
      Shur 10 December 2013 23: 11
      0
      If everything was so simple, then you would not have written comments here ...
  3. Rus86
    Rus86 10 December 2013 08: 47
    +3
    Is everything New - well-forgotten old?) If you take it at the level of one person, all business training is advised to draw up a PLAN for the day. at the State level, these are (I don’t even know how to write) fundamental principles of development.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 December 2013 09: 19
      16
      Quote: ...
      The implementation went through the installation of telephone sets in the rural streets, which were supposed to provide the peasants with communication "with the outside world"


      Everything is as always, God is on you that we do not need. All have long been with mobile, but we must somehow cash in on the villagers.

      In Soviet times, the birth rate in the village was 40% higher than the city, and this was the main reason for the population growth. Over the past 20 years, 20 thousand villages have disappeared in Russia - three in total every day. According to UN experts, by 2020 there will be no two-thirds of the surviving rural settlements, and the Ministry of Economic Development says that it is impossible to save the outback, despite any investment. On the whole, the federal center escaped from village problems, leaving the entire social infrastructure at the mercy of the local authorities, which, in order to save money, completely shut down rural schools and hospitals. Experts close to the authorities claim that this is good: the USA has gone the same way, where now one percent of farmers feed the whole country. But in Russia there are no conditions for the development of farming, and 38 million rural people are doomed to survive without the help of the state.

      Why is everything about the Bushmen removed to whom not laziness, and their leaves without a trace?
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      1. 10kAzAk01
        10kAzAk01 10 December 2013 09: 33
        13
        An example is the Federal Target Program “Social Development of the Village”. The program completed its work in 2012, which makes us think either that the social development of the village took place, or that something was wrong with the program in the end ...

        ... these guys are far from the village ... like the Earth from the Sun ... it is not possible to compare the everyday life of a peasant with any worker in the city. I myself moved to the city from a rural town ... 28 people studied in my class, 6 remained in the village ... the rest left for the city ... average salary 9000 r. how robust will remain there under such conditions? seed, children, housing ... The government does not give a shit about the people ... they applaud the president in the foreign policy field, they have no time to deal with the people.
        1. Sunjar
          Sunjar 10 December 2013 11: 57
          +5
          9000 p. For the village is not so little. In our village, only teachers receive such a salary. The rest for 1500 rub. up to 3000 rub. Here we have no worse than after the Nazi invasion.
  4. Apollo
    Apollo 10 December 2013 08: 47
    16
    Good morning everybody hi

    quote-In our country, so far there is an option in which the economy is like a blind man, who was pushed into a soft spot and forced to go for a voice - a voice mainly with a foreign (English) accent ... The state planning system could well help the blind to see and go already to where he himself needs, and not to his outsiders.

    Alexey hi for analogy alone plus good Having read the article, you don’t even know whether to laugh or cry.
    Actually, D.A. Medvedev’s government has long been discrediting itself. I’m sitting and thinking, but if there hadn’t been any presidential decrees in May, what would the government headed by the prime minister do. This is the first.
    Second, at least kill me, why ask duplication of executive bodies..Note the same mess with us (Apollo)
    Look at the government apparatus on the one hand and the presidential administration on the other hand. And both apparatuses receive huge money from the treasury, that is, the budget in the form of wages for officials who wipe their pants in comfortable offices. The country's economy primarily means saving money and not squandering money..
    While Prime Minister D.A. Medvedev is at the helm, I don’t see any changes in the economy in the near future. don't even have to.
    It is important to prevent at least a complete collapse of the economy.This is one of the most important tasks facing adequate people in the state. At the head of the economy should be a business executive and a point. Imho.
    1. evgenm55
      evgenm55 10 December 2013 09: 24
      +5
      I don’t agree. Why did you decide that the money is wasted? They are being saved in relation to the state (read the people) for the more urgent and closer: palaces, roads to them, houses in London and the Cote d'Azur. So, in vain you are talking about dimon and companies.
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 10 December 2013 10: 21
      +4
      Quote: Apollon
      .I’m sitting and thinking, but if there weren’t any presidential decrees in May, what would the government do, headed by the prime minister.

      How what? - "The head of the state corporation" Rostec "Sergei Chemezov presented to the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev the Russian smartphone YotaPhone." The trick is that it has two screenslaughing (no need for comment), Azir, hi
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 10 December 2013 10: 41
        +7
        Quote: Tersky
        How what? - "The head of the state corporation" Rostec "Sergei Chemezov presented to the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev the Russian smartphone YotaPhone." (does not need comment)

        Good afternoon Victor hi
        I read periodicals and horror.
        Media: Rotenberg will gain control over Sheremetyevo
        Control over Sheremetyevo can get the structure of businessman Arkady Rotenberg.
        Winning the competition by choosing an investor for the northern terminal complex Sheremetyevo (the former Sheremetyevo-1 and neighboring terminals) will allow TPS Avia Arkady Rotenberg, Alexander Ponomarenko and Alexander Skorobogatko to become the controlling shareholder of the entire airport. This will happen in the case of the consolidation of Sheremetyevo’s assets, which the Federal Property Management Agency, on behalf of Vladimir Putin, should conduct before the privatization of the government stake in the airport.
        http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/12/10/663595.html


        What victory is what else competition ?! What kind of idiots are you holding us ?!
        What a rotenberg this urk is, everyone knows. And where is the liberoid Zhirinovsky with his friend Zyuganov. They got water in their mouths. All of these Rotenbergs with all the gang.
        Airports are objects of strategic importance. Really not clear. Soon and get to the bowels of the earth.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 13: 12
          +3
          Quote: Apollon
          . This will happen in the case of the consolidation of Sheremetyevo’s assets, which the Federal Property Management Agency, on behalf of Vladimir Putin, should conduct before the privatization of the government stake in the airport.

          Oh, this Medvedev.
        2. alone
          alone 10 December 2013 23: 09
          +3
          Quote: Apollon
          .And where is the liberoid Zhirinovsky with a friend Zyuganov


          Just take an interest in the cost of Zhirinovsky’s car and Zyuganov’s assets and you will understand that this is just a pocket opposition.
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 10 December 2013 23: 29
            0
            Quote: lonely
            Just take an interest in the cost of Zhirinovsky’s car and Zyuganov’s assets and you will understand that this is just a pocket opposition.


            And why I already know enough, ..... and about "Maybach" and about everything else. I do not consider it necessary to just clog the branch.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 10 December 2013 10: 58
        +6
        Quote: Tersky
        Russian smartphone YotaPhone. "


        Hello Victor.

        Yes, it does not have our components, so what? Everything is as always - on the E-mobile with Yotafon.
  5. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 10 December 2013 08: 48
    21
    In no case DO NOT send to the furnace "Economic methods"from DAM, they need to be studied by novice economists, both methods threatening the security of Russia, both economic and the threat to the very existence of Russia as a state. hi
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 10 December 2013 08: 53
      12
      In no case SHOULD NOT send "Economic Methods" from the LADY to the furnace
      Perhaps, yes. But here is the iPhone itself - IMHO, it's high time.
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 10 December 2013 11: 59
        +7
        Quote: Old_Kapitan
        Perhaps, yes. But here is the iPhone itself - IMHO, it's high time.

        I would not want to be in place of Dmitry Anatievich, and if I had, I would have been ashamed to read all the comments of the visitors on the VO forum and would have long since filed a letter of resignation.Hence the conclusion that he has neither shame nor conscience.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 13: 14
          0
          Quote: Apollon
          I wouldn’t like to be in place of Dmitry Anatievich, and if I had, I would have been ashamed to read the VO

          And I would not leave, 99% of the site, including myself, are simple amateurs. Sitting on the couch you always know better what and how to do.
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 10 December 2013 13: 18
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And I would not leave, 99% of the site, including myself, are simple amateurs. Sitting on the couch you always know better what and how to do.

            Well, if he doesn’t leave for good, then he will soon leave for bad.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 13: 26
              0
              Quote: Apollon

              Well, if he doesn’t leave for good, then he will soon leave for bad.

              Apollo, where did you go ??? By bad, this is a revolution.
  6. Sunjar
    Sunjar 10 December 2013 08: 48
    13
    Now it’s fashionable to talk about the misuse of budget funds. It turns out that it seems like not theft. Some boss for the money buys cars, dachas, etc., but under the organization responsible for the implementation of the project. Then when everything is already bent - all these things in honor of debts the boss takes everything for himself. And this is the misuse of the budget (people's money). And in general, when it comes to the state budget - it is rumored that it was money stolen from the state or misused, but when the same thing is called folk remedies - then the situation is more acute.

    I remember the book "Dunno on the Moon". There he talks about the fact that he was robbed, that what's the difference according to the law I was robbed or not, there is still no money, and that these same robbers write laws for themselves. Actually, it is so in our life.

    And it is already necessary to begin to introduce a real responsibility. The responsible person did not cope with the task - to remove from the post immediately, and in the future not to put in high posts in this direction, that is, so that this person then shows himself at lower levels. The more he shows his incompetence - the lower the position.
    1. 311ove
      311ove 10 December 2013 09: 19
      +8
      Yes, no, fashion is changing rapidly, perhaps- now it is becoming fashionable to steal negligence belay Maybe the truth is not for everyone, but an example of a stool .... angry
    2. Sinbad
      Sinbad 10 December 2013 11: 47
      +7
      I completely agree! Learned to call beautiful ugly things. That's when we start to call things (people) by their proper names, then we will take the first step to order. And then, the thief and the embezzler, gently mock for incomplete compliance with the wishes to be corrected as soon as possible (probably to steal even more and share). With this approach, there will be no sense.
  7. askort154
    askort154 10 December 2013 08: 51
    +9
    It's time to change Medvedev to Glazyev.
    1. 10kAzAk01
      10kAzAk01 10 December 2013 09: 34
      +1
      It's time to change Medvedev to Glazyev.

      will still be a henchman of the "family" ... whatever you say ...
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 10 December 2013 10: 04
        +7
        but you tell me, show me who is not a protege at the top? At least the eyes seem to be more sensible among this pack.
        1. typhoon7
          typhoon7 10 December 2013 23: 22
          0
          I agree, Glazyev is an excellent economist, and he was abandoned to engage in CIS affairs or there. union.
  8. makarov
    makarov 10 December 2013 09: 03
    +4
    "Otherwise, it will turn out as with the above-mentioned program of social development of the village: everything is fine, wonderful marquise ...", and the VILLAGE will still remain in the deep and impassable "Jiepe".
  9. vlad0
    vlad0 10 December 2013 09: 04
    +3
    It would not happen that the implementation of this strategy was not entrusted to DAM and its company. Far away ?? !!
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 December 2013 09: 07
    +1
    The program completed its work in the 2012 year, which makes us think either that the social development of the village took place, or that something was wrong with the program in the end ...


    Was there a girl?
  11. Stiletto
    Stiletto 10 December 2013 09: 13
    +4
    It is not economic methods that should be sent to the furnace, but the developer himself. If you limit yourself only to methods, then he will invent new ones. He has them as "his" shag.
  12. ImPerts
    ImPerts 10 December 2013 09: 13
    10
    Sometimes it seems to me that planning is absent due to the inability of modern "economic financiers" to do it at all. They were taught to count, but not to plan and forecast. And "the world's best economist (as it was written in one article))) S. Guriev teaches Western oligarchs to cut and roll back. What we have, or rather has us, was built and created by" Harvardoel boys ". We were sold bullshit and a wild market when normal economies plan and predict, and the Soviet economy was ruined not by total planning, but by corruption and theft (more precisely, subscripts).
    Planning is the foundation of everything. It’s even funny. Everyone is planning everything. Studying, living, resting, and economic development and development planning is bad.
  13. Criowoolf
    Criowoolf 10 December 2013 09: 30
    +7
    How many articles have been and how many will be on this subject. The only problem I see is theft. Money simply does not reach the destination in its integral state. It is distributed on its way by everyone, from large to small. And as a result, we don’t see any result.
    All these "methods" are just masturbation.
    1. Shur
      Shur 10 December 2013 23: 27
      +1
      Theft is not a cause, but a consequence, a consequence of that booth that began in the 90s and will not be curtailed in any way ... That's when such citizens as Chubaxis, etc. either sit down in London, then maybe. Moreover, the planting should be the result of rethinking and not just "condemnation", but the systematic reformation of the state (in its political and economic sense) and the industrialization of the economy.
    2. Shur
      Shur 10 December 2013 23: 36
      -1
      I heard somewhere how VVP was called a fundamentalist. I do not agree with this, since he did not erect that very foundation, and that heap ... that he considered a stronghold cannot be called a "foundation". He is more of a pragmatist, he took what is, and as a good administrator began to rule. But how to make a bullet out of Mr. Maybe he will come to the conclusion that a lot had to be fundamentally changed from the beginning, before it was rooted out, not overgrown. On such a fragile foundation we are trying to build a "dream ship". The most important thing is that it will not happen with him. He's just a manager .. for which many thanks to him. We want a lot from him, too much. For good, he had to grow up a shift and clear the way for real activities to raise the country. He is an anti-crisis manager who is overdue. Hopefully wrong ...
  14. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 10 December 2013 09: 36
    +6
    Before reanimating the GosPlan, it is necessary to "slightly" clean up the Government. While the apologists from libertarianism are sitting there, there can be no talk of any planning. Because chaos (libertarianism) will never get along with order (state plan).
    1. Shur
      Shur 10 December 2013 23: 39
      0
      Rather, another government, thinking people committed to the new course and understanding the order of measures and actions for its implementation.
  15. sergant89
    sergant89 10 December 2013 09: 38
    +2
    And Here is More News !!! Moscow forgave Havana a debt of 29 billion dollars

    Russia forgave Cuba for billions of dollars in debt

    Russia and Cuba, without publicity, signed an agreement in October of this year that annulled 90 percent of the 32 billions of dollars of communist state debt to the Soviet Union.

    Russian prime minister Dmitry Medvedev in February signed a preliminary agreement on the settlement of the debt issue between Cuba and the USSR, which remained a controversial topic in relations between Moscow and Havana for twenty years, bfm.ru reports. The final document, which must be approved by the State Duma, provides for Cuba 2,3 to pay billions of euros to Russia over the next ten years, and Moscow will write off the remaining twenty-one billion.

    Cuba defaulted on its debt at the end of the 80 of the last century, but a country with export revenues of 13 billion euros a year is trying to restructure its bonds in order to increase confidence in international markets.

    The announcement at the beginning of the year that an agreement was reached with Russia irritated members of the Paris Club, including Germany, Japan and France, who accused Moscow of unilateral actions.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 09: 48
      +4
      Quote: sergant89
      Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed in February a preliminary treaty to resolve the debt issue between Cuba and the USSR

      It’s written beautifully, like it’s not Putin who forgave the debt to Cuba, and Medvedev himself did this without asking Putin laughing
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 10 December 2013 10: 53
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It’s written beautifully, like it’s not Putin who forgave the debt to Cuba, and Medvedev himself did this without asking Putin

        The main thing is to promote the indispensability and vigorous activity of DAMA, and then how it goes .. laughing ! .. That the cancellation of debt will hope that this is an advance for the return of Russia to Cienfuegos. wink
    2. Hort
      Hort 10 December 2013 13: 22
      0
      Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed in February a preliminary treaty on resolving the debt issue between Cuba and the USSR, which remained a controversial topic in relations between Moscow and Havana for twenty years, bfm.ru reports.
      [fumbles beside chair] "Where is the damn ice ax ?!" am
  16. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 10 December 2013 09: 51
    +6
    my opinion is that Dimon got on one level with Judas Gorbachev, into the furnace with his economic methods, or to drive on foot through abandoned fields on which trees have already grown, but in villages where there is a forest instead of streets.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 10 December 2013 10: 06
      +1
      and then hang on these very trees.
      1. vadson
        vadson 10 December 2013 15: 28
        0
        You can not drive and immediately
  17. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 10 December 2013 09: 57
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Christian
    . With the existing mode, it is not possible ...

    In Russia there is no regime, in Russia the president is legally elected president of the people of Russia. And let your world government go to hell, to a well-known address.

    Legally elected president ??? But why did the legally elected government check for whom such budgetary organizations as factories, for example, where several thousand people work, give their votes? Why pay thousands of rubles to attend rallies under their flags? m? wassat Do not tell, comrade!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 10: 03
      0
      Quote: Boot under the carpet
      ?? But why did the legally elected government check for whom such budgetary organizations as factories, for example, where several thousand people work, give their votes?

      Why does the opposition hold such actions?
      Quote: Boot under the carpet
      Why pay thousands of rubles to attend rallies under their flags?

      I would know that they paid mowing fees for attending the rally, I would go to everyone laughing When will the next distribution of dough inform in PM wink
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 10 December 2013 10: 18
      +3
      Quote: Boot under the carpet
      Why pay thousands of rubles

      Where did they pay? When did you pay? Did I miss something? Well, it turns out you could cut the dough ... Again, all the good things passed me by ...
  18. Jarilo
    Jarilo 10 December 2013 10: 04
    +3
    [quote = Averias] [quote = Christian] Putin is the protégé of the world oligarchic "international" [/ quote]

    This Putin, in spite of everything, was not afraid (and time then was eh - hard times) and tore off the slave agreement of SORP (production sharing agreement). Although many leaders of other countries ended badly when they tried to crank the same feint. But ours is nothing, lives and lives.

    And the law was pulled by the Liberal Party Apple. How glad they were then that our country stood on a par with countries that rob and give handouts from the master's table. From this party, by the way, and Kudrin.
  19. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 10 December 2013 10: 22
    13
    To be honest, it’s time not only for economic plans to enter the “firebox,” some “honored” comrades have also deserved this “firebox.” By the way, what kind of manner is it when a former responsible official receives some kind of “guarantees of immunity”? Yeltsin walked like an elephant around the country, received "guarantees" and calmly retired? A man who made so much in the 90s had to appear before the court, if only for 1993, be judged as a traitor to the Motherland, and they still wonder why these people are Gorbachev didn’t like him so much. Gorbachev understood everything and quickly threw his little things in a suitcase and moved to these Germany. In ancient Rome, the consul was of course a king, only without a name, but as soon as consular powers were laid down, if you please answer with all the severity, great power -great responsibility, but we somehow have "our own way", at least comrades who were reborn into gentlemen Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Dmitry (iPhone) Anatolyevich Medvedev should be presented go to court and report on your actions, okay Yeltsin died, he has a good reason, otherwise you settled well, if you are a simple person and accidentally exceeded the speed limit, get a "letter of happiness" and pay, and if you are prime minister or president, you can turn back that if you don't want to bear any responsibility, it won't work that way.
    1. Shuriken
      Shuriken 10 December 2013 13: 54
      +1
      It seems to me that such a move would be the fairest in Russia (the idea is not mine): upon assuming office, the president / prime minister is sentenced in absentia to execution, then they rule themselves, and at the end of the term, a referendum and, according to its results, execution, term (small or considerable), retirement or approval by the majority, which automatically means an extension of powers! That would be real democracy, and not the rubbish that is now! And, I do not think that the line would stand for the candidates !!
  20. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 10 December 2013 10: 27
    +5
    For many years, our democrat economists have branded the Soviet economy with the very last words (it is both regulated and inefficient, degrading, etc.) more than twenty years have passed. and during which the economy in Russia is controlled by democrats. So what? Prosperity has come? No matter how it is. The impoverishment of the people continues, and the growth of the "prosperity" of the oligarchs is off scale. There is no industrial development in Russia. Not a single large enterprise has been built (except for the mining industry. The country's bowels must be emptied). But Medvedev is talking about some kind of growth. Liars you are gentlemen ministers.
    1. VladimS
      VladimS 10 December 2013 10: 39
      +2
      Many new enterprises have been built, but in many ways - not because of, but contrary to.
      There are few industry giants. Do you need giants? It is necessary to replace the equipment and technologies of the modern level with the existing ones.
      1. yur
        yur 10 December 2013 21: 01
        0
        What about the giants Ford, Boeing, General Electric, Mercedes, Samsung, Toyota, etc. etc. Something they do not interfere with our "friends".
  21. VladimS
    VladimS 10 December 2013 10: 28
    +2
    Quote: Apollon
    Quote: sergant89
    When is this guy already ......

    If we proceed from the logic of the picture exhibited by you, D. Medvedev should have been removed from his post for a long time.
    Question.
    Why not suspended?


    The answer may be different! Do you like it - with or without obscenities?
    It is high time for iPhone to send rest to rest, from the affairs of the prime minister.
    This is not his level - not his. Many have been talking about this for a long time.
    Is it really not visible upstairs ...!? Oh!
    1. BOB48
      BOB48 10 December 2013 13: 50
      0
      and his presidency?
  22. Begemot
    Begemot 10 December 2013 10: 29
    11
    The liberality of Medvedev's economic policy is a myth! I can admit that his "liberality" touched a small group of oligarchs and officials, but for the rest it turned into tightening the screws to the point of breaking the thread. Suffice it to recall how he used the tragedy in the "Lame Horse" to put on the ears of the whole country, how the pension policy rushed about, how the tax burden "softened", how the business environment "improved", how the financial system, etc. It was recently that he started talking about liberalization, because he realized that he had gone too far to the characteristic crackle (although, I believe, he did not understand, but was prompted). DAM is a typical politician of the Gaidar school. He sincerely believes that by issuing a law banning mosquitoes from biting, you can solve the problem with mosquitoes throughout Russia, after which you proudly and arrogantly lift your chin in front of television cameras.
  23. Betahon
    Betahon 10 December 2013 10: 31
    +4
    Economic methods Prime Minister Medvedev sent to the furnace?
    Yes, right! And all without fail with the initiator and mastermind!
  24. rennim
    rennim 10 December 2013 10: 35
    +7
    What to discuss Medvedev and his government. There is the one who appointed him, as well as Serdyukov, Chubais and so on and so forth ...
    When a platoon soldier is asked from the battalion commander in a platoon. He controls and works with the battalion. He writes performances for comrades, etc. So it is not necessary ... The direction in politics and economics is chosen by the president. He was chosen by the people. This means that he must bear the answer before the people. He appointed Medvedev, not the people.
    And about the fact that the president is uncontrollable by the exclamations of the naive ... ANY person can be put under control. Everyone has one LIFE.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 10 December 2013 10: 41
      +1
      Quote: rennim
      When a platoon soldier is asked from the battalion commander in a platoon.

      It is right. But...
      Russia is not a battalion, politics is not an army. And so - everything is right!
  25. Boris55
    Boris55 10 December 2013 10: 40
    +3
    If the plan is not announced to us, this does not mean that it does not exist.
    On a planned and market economy.
    An excerpt from the introductory lecture by KP Petrov: "Secrets of Mankind Management".

  26. Jarilo
    Jarilo 10 December 2013 10: 51
    +4
    Quote: Boris55
    On a planned and market economy.
    An excerpt from the introductory lecture by KP Petrov: "Secrets of Mankind Management".



    If the plan is not announced to us, this does not mean that it is not there.


    That's what I'm talking about. Thanks to Petrov KP, developed the topic.
  27. sashka
    sashka 10 December 2013 11: 16
    +6
    The migration decline in the rural population has decreased
    ================================================
    There is no one else to leave, and nowhere else.
  28. dnh1970
    dnh1970 10 December 2013 11: 21
    +2
    Quote: Boris55
    If the plan is not announced to us, this does not mean that it does not exist.
    On a planned and market economy.
    An excerpt from the introductory lecture by KP Petrov: "Secrets of Mankind Management".


    A very robust vision ... And I saw telephone booths in the wilderness, they look beautiful even without wires ...
  29. saag
    saag 10 December 2013 11: 21
    +1
    "... Like, again," five years in three years "and everything like that ..."
    Something like that already exists - yesterday, on the news, watching a report from Vostochny, Rogozin arrived there, asks when the commissioning of the object, he is told under the contract by the end of 2015, and he immediately says that we need to speed up
  30. Konstantm
    Konstantm 10 December 2013 11: 24
    +3
    Quote: Apollon
    Question.
    Why not suspended?

    Because he likes this work - and the point.
    1. asadov
      asadov 10 December 2013 12: 10
      +2
      He may like it, but we don’t have the result of this work.
      1. Konstantm
        Konstantm 10 December 2013 12: 48
        +1
        Quote: asadov
        the result of this work is not.

        He didn’t say anything about the result. Yes, for him this is not important. The main thing is that Obama trusts Apple.
  31. CHAAmvd
    CHAAmvd 10 December 2013 11: 28
    +2
    Life planning is the essential essence of man and human society.
  32. msv
    msv 10 December 2013 11: 31
    +2
    Quote: vladimirZ
    . it is a kind of revival of the USSR State Planning Commission... (from article)


    Finally, they started talking about the revival of a planned state economy in state-controlled industries.
    Medvedev and his government, as a brake on the development of the Russian economy, must be dismissed and kept close to public service. Let him go to teach jurisprudence, as they say what he studied.
    More than 20 years of development of the Russian economy in a sea of ​​market, business and finance without sails and steering, that is, without a plan, have proved the absurdity of the ideology of liberals.
    It remains to wait for concrete measures by President Putin to resign and land those responsible for the destruction of the economy and corruption. Will we wait? Doubts are gnawing.


    And here the planned economy. We are talking about strategic planning of budget expenditures at various levels and attracting investment in various development programs. And the economy as it was market will remain. You are my economists ...
  33. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 10 December 2013 12: 33
    +4
    "... The economic methods of Prime Minister Medvedev will be sent to the furnace" ..?
    It would be nice together with the prime minister ...
  34. w2000
    w2000 10 December 2013 13: 27
    -3
    As always, DAM is to blame for everything, and Vovochka is white and fluffy. Both of them are only executors of the will of the oligarchs, clownes worn on the hands of backstage manipulators.
  35. Sergg
    Sergg 10 December 2013 13: 28
    +2
    An example is the Federal Target Program “Social Development of the Village”. The program completed its work in 2012, which makes us think either that the social development of the village took place, or that something was wrong with the program in the end ...


    What is that spit in our direction? I live in a village. What nonsense am I hearing from the government?
    They would have invested money better in the improvement of the countryside in the Caucasus or in the Olympics, then there would have been honor and respect for the government, and it sounds like mockery, and people live knee-deep in mud, there’s no elementary road, no internet, no gas.

    It is precisely said:
    Medvedev will be sent to the furnace

    let them not forget about the rest, everyone knows the names of the fifth columned.
  36. w2000
    w2000 10 December 2013 13: 32
    +2
    Quote: Sergg
    It is precisely said:
    Medvedev will be sent to the furnace

    let them not forget about the rest, everyone knows the names of the fifth columned.


    From a change of faces - nothing will change. Remember how often under Yeltsin the government was changed? We need to change the system in which all the public wealth belongs to a handful of oligarch capitalists, and the country is ruled by such nits as Putin and Medvedev on their behalf.
    1. slybeast
      slybeast 10 December 2013 14: 44
      -1
      change the system of world governance? to another similar or to which?
  37. coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 10 December 2013 13: 49
    +1
    Guys! A voice from the audience, can, by analogy with scientific companies, introduce economic ones? hi
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 10 December 2013 13: 57
      -1
      Quote: coserg 2012
      Guys! A voice from the audience - and maybe, by analogy with scientific companies, introduce economic ones?

      It is possible to introduce, but there will be no sense because "fortune-telling on coffee grounds" has nothing to do with science, if only for the reason that the machine that prints evergreens and on which our entire economy is tied belongs to a private company (FRS ) and it is not possible to predict whether the owner's wife gave the owner today or not laughing
  38. Sergg
    Sergg 10 December 2013 13: 49
    +1
    Putin, as president, is, of course, responsible for the execution of all state programs, but nevertheless, one person cannot work out all state affairs. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. You look at our successes in foreign policy, and then look at the complete failure inside the country. It’s clear that what ORGANIZATIONAL MATTERS need to be addressed first of all is the RESIGNATION OF THE GOVERNMENT, the change of priorities of domestic policy. Will Putin take this bold move? Will he decide to crush this hydra - the Fifth Column in Russia? - our people are patient, but with the deterioration of the economic situation in Russia, the people can end their patience.
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 10 December 2013 14: 39
      +3
      Sergg

      Quote: Sergg
      Putin, as president, is, of course, responsible for the execution of all state programs, but nevertheless, one person cannot work out all state affairs.

      Firstly, he took the oath of office upon assuming office ... With him, and demand in full.
      And the fact that he alone cannot be his problems is not it?
      There is such a phrase - delegation of authority. Another thing is that it entrusts GDP to people who are incompetent and often initially not trained in their profile.
      These are His blunders. Very frequent, noticeable, with great damage, as a rule.
      And in addition. .. For foreign policy, I would not yet praise the One.
      Early.
      Neither Syria nor Ukraine has stability so far, which means that the results for GDP may turn out to be losing.
  39. slybeast
    slybeast 10 December 2013 14: 43
    0
    The government plays gadgets and frankly Gad (jets) um the country. The question of Medvedev itself arises - a blind cat or an ordinary pest?
  40. kaktus
    kaktus 10 December 2013 14: 55
    +3
    If economics were science, they would first test on mice wassat (pearl of the 90s.)
  41. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 10 December 2013 15: 41
    +2
    I, and probably many will agree with me, I do not think that DAM is endowed with a rich mind by nature in order to come up with any economic methods. He still does not seem to have played enough toys ...
    Someone brings him material or a ready-made pattern (usually foreign). DAM - run to the Guarantor for signature. With the approval of the Duma, of course (although it did not approve if the issue has already been resolved in the Kremlin?) Some figures are appointed and the process begins.
    This action will be removed for the media, a couple of questions on duty - answers to inspire the population.
    Maybe I messed up the sequence, but this is not so important right now.
    The main thing is noticeable that few people understand something in these methods. From top to bottom.
    From here it would be more correct to head the article like this:
    Economic methods of the tandem will be sent to the furnace?
  42. kirgudu
    kirgudu 10 December 2013 16: 35
    +1
    God forbid memory, but Aypedika has been sent to the furnace for the second year. He will not go to more responsible work in any way to head some kind of glaucus.
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 10 December 2013 17: 14
      0
      kirgudu

      Sending somewhere is dangerous - he knows a lot, and he loves to chat with his tongue.
      And here at least under supervision. And also, if something goes wrong, there is someone to blame.
  43. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 10 December 2013 18: 47
    +1
    <<< In fact, the version of liberonomy can finally go "into the furnace" as untenable and pernicious. Will the government itself be sent to the "furnace"? Here everything is much more complicated ... >>>
    It has long been clear with this libesral economic course! How long will we "harness"! After all, other countries are not waiting for us and are eager to become leaders, and in order to survive as a state of the great Russian civilization, Russia must be in the economic leaders! There are NO alternatives!
  44. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 10 December 2013 18: 50
    +2
    The comedy "we love Putin, but we hate Medvedev" continues at VO.

    How did I love this cognitive dissonance ...
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 10 December 2013 19: 22
      -1
      Quote: Yarosvet
      How did I love this cognitive dissonance ...

      Not indifferent people however. And they know how to love and not to hate, but what political orientation will you have?
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 10 December 2013 20: 32
        +1
        Quote: Boris55
        What political orientation will you have?

        Democrats we ... wink
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 10 December 2013 20: 59
          -1
          A strange combination, Ulyanov and Dzhugashvili ... Are you familiar with the work of JV Stalin: "ECONOMIC PROBLEMS OF SOCIALISM IN THE USSR"? ( http://www.souz.info/library/stalin/ec_probl.htm)

          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 10 December 2013 21: 28
            -1
            Quote: Boris55
            A strange combination, Ulyanov and Dzhugashvili ...
            What is strange?

            Are you familiar with the work of JV Stalin: "ECONOMIC PROBLEMS OF SOCIALISM IN THE USSR"?
            I do not, and you?

            According to the video: a rare nonsense with distortion, substitution of concepts and deliberate disregard for common sense.


            By the way, I keep forgetting to ask: if the creators and ideologists of the KOB are such Russophiles, then why did they initially use its English version instead of the normal Russian word "predictor"?
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 10 December 2013 21: 52
              -1
              The video is almost the same as in the work of Stalin - about the inoperability of the teachings of K. Marx.
              "...Moreover, I think that need to throw back some other conceptstaken from Marx's Capital, where Marx analyzed capitalism, and artificially glued to our socialist relations. I mean, by the way, concepts like "necessary" and "surplus" labor, "necessary" and "surplus" product, "necessary" and "surplus" labor time"... Half a year after this was written, Stalin was killed.

              Regarding the predictor-corrector - that would not lose meaning when translating into a foreign one.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 10 December 2013 22: 48
                0
                Quote: Boris55
                The video is almost the same as in the work of Stalin - about the inoperability of the teachings of K. Marx
                Nothing of the kind: the video is trying to demonize Marx.
                Stalin, however, does not utter a single word against Marx: he merely indicates that it is impossible to apply the old concepts to the new conditions.

                Half a year after writing this - Stalin was killed
                whether the question was killed or not (why didn’t they kill before, if they could kill the one who interfered with?), but the book, no matter what, saw the light of day, is a fact (why didn’t it be rejected?)

                Regarding the predictor-corrector - that would not lose meaning when translating into a foreign one.
                Eh Boris ... laughing
                Why can the meaning be lost when translating from Russian to English, but not when translating from English? What is the security concept of which society?
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 11 December 2013 09: 18
                  -1
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  Nothing of the kind: the video is trying to demonize Marx.

                  If we exclude such concepts as “necessary” and “surplus” labor, “necessary” and “surplus” product, “necessary” and “surplus” labor time from Marx's Capital, then nothing will remain of it.
                  During the construction of socialism, Capital is a completely unnecessary and harmful little book.

                  ps
                  What is the difference between Lenin and Stalin. One was a Marxist and the other a Bolshevik.
  45. yurii p
    yurii p 10 December 2013 19: 01
    +1
    "The migration loss of the rural population has decreased due to the creation of more favorable and comfortable living conditions in the countryside and the measures taken by the Government of the Russian Federation to support the agro-industrial complex within the framework of the priority national project" Development of the agro-industrial complex. "..... there is no one to leave the village, all those who had already left on their feet long ago, there were only old people and officials.
  46. GUSAR
    GUSAR 10 December 2013 19: 47
    +1
    Dimon, as it were, badly offers all sorts of passions-mugs, and Vova is like a good one, he suppresses these passions in the bud. This is all of course fun and cool, but I am tormented by one question, when will these figures begin to really do something, and not simulate violent activity?
  47. Megre
    Megre 10 December 2013 19: 53
    0
    It's nice when someone's life succeeds.
  48. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 10 December 2013 19: 59
    +1
    For Medvedev, power is like a favorite toy for a child. Here he plays with her as best he can. Well, if something breaks, dad (GDP) will fix it. Newsreel "Yeralash" turns out to be some kind.
  49. Megre
    Megre 10 December 2013 20: 01
    +1
    The song of the airborne troops about Putin "Nobody but us"
    Well done paratroopers!
  50. msv
    msv 10 December 2013 20: 04
    -1
    Quote: dmb
    In light of the sore praise, can there be only one question? What line does Putin follow internally, and whether this line suits the majority. When answering, a kind request: do not use expressions like "but there is no other", "everything is not so simple", and "the people chose him."



    I chose him. His line suits me. Because I do not belong to those idiots who consider:
    - that everyone can build happiness by quickly shooting and landing half the country.
    - that complex problems are fixed by simple solutions
    - that the world around us is black and white: there are good ones, but there are bad ones and nothing else.
    For what I voted for him, it’s not necessary to explain, I guess.
    If you choose a god, Putin is probably not quite suitable for his role.
    And if you choose the Head of the country, which of the most represented will protect your interests, although it is not without drawbacks, then this role is quite.
    I don’t deal with praises, but to pay tribute to the preservation of the country, and indeed the improvement of living standards compared to the nineties, it is necessary for sure.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 10 December 2013 20: 38
      +3
      Quote: msv
      I chose him. His line suits me.
      If you choose a god, Putin is probably not quite suitable for his role.
      And if you choose the Head of the country, which of the most represented will protect your interests, although it is not without drawbacks, then this role is quite.
    2. Megre
      Megre 10 December 2013 20: 44
      +1
      Agriculture in F ** E, industry in the same place. Demography in F ** E, except for the Caucasus republics. Millions of black guest workers, in the Far East and Siberia, millions of Chinese whalers. Have you eaten better? So this is from import. Close the borders and FAG. 13 years your idol in power. Corruption is prohibitive, not even corruption, but the rule of power. The ruble is in touch. Only Euros and Dollars. And most importantly - he is afraid of the state-forming nation ...... Russian.
      1. Shur
        Shur 10 December 2013 23: 57
        +1
        I heard his daughter speak of Korean, so he is a man of broad views. He understands that closing in his "self" is a dead end in the present world. He is the president of the Russian Federation, not the prince of all Russia, sorry, but this is so. The problem of the Russians is the problem of the Russians. Such layouts are obtained and I, as a representative of those very Russians, do not agree with him. Now, if he, as a "man of free views," returns the Russian Republic (within the framework of the RSFSR), then this will be true in the model of the state he maintains. Only not on paper, but with its own autonomous status (like other national republics). And now he strengthens this state with our humiliation and grief. EBN also started with this, ignoring the genocide of Russians in the Caucasus. Or let him eliminate this inequality by abolishing the republics and dividing into regions and so on. Are we citizens of one country or do we have the same rights?
      2. Shur
        Shur 11 December 2013 00: 08
        0
        Since we have chosen the model of federation, please be so kind as to do as it should be "FEDERATION is in constitutional law one of the forms of state structure in which the state consists of the subjects of the federation - states, autonomous national-state (national-territorial) and territorial" ...
      3. Shur
        Shur 11 December 2013 00: 14
        +1
        How is it now? Now the "titulars" in the republics are the 1st grade, and the rest are the second and even the 3rd. Either defend my rights not on paper, but in practice, or break everything into equal subjects. I understand a serious question, but it is no less hot and simply Russians will not be able to extinguish it for a long time. When everyone escapes from them to Moscow I'm afraid the embassies will have to be opened ... So there are a lot of presidents.