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The last nail in the coffin of the British Empire. Scotland office referendum

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London - Capital of the UK. This canonical phrase from a school textbook soon threatens to become an anachronism and will no longer reflect the current state of affairs. No longer great and not quite Britain. In the short term, its northern part will separate from the Proud Island. This is the result indicated by the entire sequence of recent events and the millennium historical experience of crushing and death of great empires. However, first things first ...


Oh, that was the largest state formation in human history! An Empire Over Which The Sun Never Sets.

The transfer of all territorial acquisitions of Britain to the beginning of the 20th century sounds like a geographical anecdote: British Malaya (present-day Malaysia), Myanmar, modern Pakistan and Bangladesh, Singapore, Hong Kong, Canada, Australia, N. Zeeland, Oceania (Fiji and etc.), South Africa, Botswana and Y. Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), Egypt, Gold Coast (present-day Nigeria, Cameroon and Ghana). Also among the subordinated territories of the Anglo-Saxons were Iraq and Iran, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain. The British Mandate in Palestine (present-day Israel and Jordan), Jamaica, South American Guyana, the Caribbean islands, Diego Garcia and islands in the Indian Ocean, pieces of land in the middle of the Atlantic - Fr. Ascension, the Falklands archipelago, South Georgia ... - oh, you need to stop, take a sip of water and take a breath - ... an outpost in southern Europe - Gibraltar, the Mediterranean island of Malta and Cyprus. Own territory of the metropolis - Foggy Albion off the coast of Europe (together with Ireland). Kenya, Sudan, a part of Tanzania, Sierra Leone, Mozambique fell into dependence. And, of course, “the pearl of the British crown” - India.

Over the 300 years of active expansion, the British Empire has spread to all continents in both hemispheres of the Earth. Cases in the colonies did not always go according to plan — they had to regularly settle conflicts between tribes, castes and national leaders, fight against Aboriginal traditions, suppress revolts and carry out punitive actions against the local population. The boundaries of some overseas territories were redrawn several times in a hundred years - someone disappeared from the list of British possessions, but at this time new territories fell into bondage to England.

The 13 wealthy colonies on the East Coast of North America were lost in a rather offensive way - the former British and Irish emigrants suddenly wanted independence, and eventually achieved their own requirements, forming their own state - the United States. But the British specifically bartered these lands from Holland (New York - New Amsterdam), giving in return to the Dutch the South American Suriname.

There were also frank failures - the Anglo-Ethiopian war ended in vain, the British did not succeed in subjugating Afghanistan and penetrating into Central Asia. The intervention on the territory of Russia during the years of the Civil War did not cherish anything good - the young Soviet state survived, in the process nationalizing all the enterprises of Western companies. But this was rather an exception to the rule - usually the British sought their way, paving the way to the desired goal with fire and sword.


One of the variants of the British Empire of the late period (Palestine and colonies in the Middle East are not shown)

To say that Britain has bitten off more than it could swallow would be unfair - ALL the occupied territories were settled and plundered with the proper degree of efficiency. In its best years, the East India Company worked with an unprecedented share of 600% annual profit. Britain arranged a world-wide “migration of nations” - the delivery of cheap labor from India to sugar cane plantations in Fiji Islands (Pacific Ocean) and initiated the appearance of black slaves in the US (first brought to British Virginia in 1619 year). The brutal colonial wars, a huge cutting-edge fleet and industrial exhibition in Hyde Park in London in 1851, which became the symbol of the industrial and economic power of the world hegemon - with such a legacy entered Britain in the 20th century. The century is extraordinary. The more interesting it is for the historian, the sadder it is for the contemporary.

The twentieth century ended for the British Empire with a crushing score - she lost everything.

The first round was left for the British - in World War I, they defended their right to overseas possessions and even managed to "cut" a couple of "tidbits" at the expense of the former German colonies. But the next war was a real disaster for them.

Dying in the flames of world war, the Third Reich inflicted a mortal wound on the British lion - as a result of the Second World War, the British Empire was already breathing its last. It will take no more than 20 years - and it will completely disintegrate into a hundred independent states. Left without their colonies, the British economy will decline. One way or another, Germany achieved its goal by destroying an irreconcilable rival - now it has become the leading economy of Europe and a contender for the world superpower (the European Union).

A special role in the collapse of the British Empire was played by the appearance on the geopolitical arena of new players - the USSR and the USA. The industrial colossus, who did not know the ruin of the war years, whose dollar was recognized as the world reserve currency. And the young desperate state that defied all the laws of evolution and subdued the oppressed of the whole world under its banners. In such conditions, the rotten colonial system could only be quietly bent and disappear on the dusty shelves of history. The Great Empire collapsed right before our eyes, awkward attempts to stop the inevitable process of disintegration only accelerated the process of disintegration and independence of the peoples of Africa and Asia.

All that remains of the once Great Empire is an island off the coast of Europe and a kind of strange Commonwealth, which consists of 2,245 billion people in the former British colonies - that is, 30% of the world's population. But it does not provide any specific advantages to the UK. Tribute to the colonial past. Or a mockery of former greatness ...

Probably, it is not bad to head the organization in 53 countries of the world, most of which still feel the trend of the colonial past: language, culture, traditions, and occasionally the governor-general with formal subordination to Her Majesty. But not for Great Britain - which, not in words, but in fact, owned a good half of the globe over the centuries.

And here is another incredible message from the shores of Foggy Albion - a referendum on the independence of Scotland was scheduled for 18 September 2014. All, gentlemen, comrades, this is a complete finish. Checkmate. The destructive process of the collapse of the empire did not end with the loss of the colonies, but continued as a fragmentation of the metropolitan state itself. The once unified and indestructible The United Kingdom - the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - continues to disintegrate and shrink. Slamming the door and not saying goodbye, is going to leave in English the entire northern part of Albion. And then (scary to think) independence will want Wales and rebellious Northern Ireland.

For five hundred years the proud land of Scotland defended its independence, with varying success reflecting London’s attempts to subjugate these territories to itself. Still, the forces turned out to be unequal - military, economic and cultural expansion from the South gradually supplanted the national Gaelic language and culture of the Scots (Celts). Under threat of another looting of the country and a military blockade, the Scottish Parliament, jointly with the British, adopted the Unity Act in 1707, thus forming the Kingdom of Great Britain in the form in which we know it today.

The Scots acquired a lot - they got access to the unlimited wealth of the British colonies, the entire military, industrial and economic power of England. But the fee for the benefits brought was high - Scotland has almost completely lost its language and national culture, becoming part of the "indivisible whole." The most famous Scottish masters of the pen - R. Burns and Arthur Conan-Doyle - wrote in pure English.

The Scottish nation dissolved in time. There was only a dream. The dream of their own state. Even in ordinary conversation, modern Scots are outraged when they are called by the British, arrogantly emphasizing that they are Scottish People. And not any Anglo-Saxons. It remains only to smile politely and repeat the Scottish, although the unpretentious look of the Russian people makes no difference between them. All white, freckled, with the correct Oxford pronunciation.
And yet it is worth recognizing: unlike the rest of the United Kingdom, Scotland has retained the greatest autonomy - its own judicial system and the Presbyterian church, which, according to surveys, owns 42% of the population.


Castle Elian Donan, Scotland

New conversations about the division of the state arose in the 1970s — when oil was discovered on the shelf of Scotland. Lots of oil. Revenues from which went past the Scottish budget - straight to the British treasury. Of course, this state of affairs angered the proud inhabitants of Edinburgh.
At first, weak and barely audible calls for secession from Great Britain grew into a powerful political action - the result was the popular referendum on the 1979 of the year in which Scotland decided its future. Proponents of independence won with a minimum margin (49: 51) - which gave London reason to declare the referendum results invalid and forget about the problem for many years. It would have been useless to start such conversations with Margaret Thatcher. An important role in the failure of the referendum was played by a low turnout of voters (about 60%) - which once again confirmed the truth that when it comes to concrete decisions, the majority, as usual, doesn’t care.

A new surge of Scottish nationalism came at the end of the past century - feeling the slack in the British political arena, the Scottish authorities struck a new blow. The policy of devolution of the legislature of Great Britain brought its sorrowful fruit - the result was a revival in 1998-99. Scotland’s own parliament, which had been inactive since 1707. Own norms and laws in the field of health, education, taxation are pillars of the modern state. It lacks only military power, border control and international recognition of independence.

The next stage in the British-Scottish relations came in 2012 year - British Prime Minister David Cameron and the first minister of the regional government of Scotland Alex Salmond signed an agreement on the procedure for holding a referendum on independence in 2014. If successful, by the year 2016 Scotland should declare independence from the rest of England.

What does the future Scottish government promise its future citizens? That's right - joining the European Union. They will live by selling oil, exporting a national drink (whiskey) and tourism. Everything is as usual. The European Parliament gives discreet comments on this issue, bearing in mind the human rights and the right of the nation to self-determination. At the same time, it is obvious that serious politicians and businessmen from Germany, France and Italy are looking at the new raw materials appendage with a wolfish grin and are just waiting for the moment to get under control such an interesting territory with a developed infrastructure and rich oil reserves.

However, there is one problem - most Scots does not support the idea of ​​independence of Scotland. Whiskey, kilt and ostentatious pride in their "bestial" origin - is one thing. But the new "Berlin Wall" across Albion is quite another. Business and family ties between various parts of a small island are too strong to take such a serious step. The separation of the northern part of Great Britain will inevitably break industrial chains and sever economic relations between different parts of the former united state. Business is definitely against.

Been bent tourism. Millions of people visit the UK according to the London + scheme. Just watch Edinburgh and Glasgow, no one will. Do additional visas and pass customs checkpoints? .. Such an “exotic” will immediately alienate the lion’s share of those who want to enjoy the beauty of Scotland’s landscapes.

The NATO command expresses many concerns - in the event of secession, Scotland wishes to proclaim a nuclear-free status and is highly likely to consider it necessary to leave the North Atlantic alliance.

The stakes are too high - the Scots will long doubt the correctness of such a decision. The idea of ​​independence in the referendum-2014 will fail with a probability close to 100%. As today's polls show, the idea is supported by no more than a third of the respondents.

And yet - this is a signal. The very fact of a public discussion of such issues testifies to the weakening ties between various parts of the country. In times of empires such conversations are burned with a hot iron. And rightly so: a country that has embarked on the path of devolution and disintegration awaits an unenviable future.

PS For hundreds of years of its world domination, Britain has made many enemies. British arrogance and hypocrisy can ruin a relationship with any partner. Nowadays, there are many who want to see how the entire northern part of the British Isle on the map will be colored with the color of another state.

The last nail in the coffin of the British Empire. Scotland office referendum



"Riots" on the streets of Edinburgh. Lonely inscription "The end of the reign of London"
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  1. makarov
    makarov 11 December 2013 07: 59 New
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    The British insist that they are always for democracy, so let them set a clear example for the Scots ..
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 11 December 2013 08: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: makarov
      here let them show a vivid example of giving freedom to the Scots ..

      I think that the Scots themselves will not want to separate from England. The Europeans have become incapable of deeds, they have too healed in the benefits of civilization. Therefore, both Arabs and Africans - emigrants run the show in Europe. It's like in the movie "Brother-2": there is something primitive, bestial in them, and the indigenous population has lost the habit of acting for an idea, at any cost.
      1. Andof odessa
        Andof odessa 12 December 2013 14: 34 New
        +1
        And who the majority of Scots will ask. Indeed, based on what Brussels is now demonstrating, Europe and the United States with respect to the Ukrainian Maidan, it will be enough to go 10 dressed in a kilt and with bagpipes to Edinburgh Street to demand compliance with democratic norms and human rights in the UK and ensuring the sovereign right to choose and secession dispersal of demonstrators even with the help of booze. Conduct peacekeeping troops from the CSTO.
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 11 December 2013 10: 46 New
      +3
      Wait and see, while the probability of separation of Scotland is about 50%. Personally, I would really like to see convulsions in the UK, so that after Scotland, Wales and Ulster also fall off.
      1. AVV
        AVV 11 December 2013 23: 23 New
        0
        Yes, not all Britons to separate territories from others, even if they themselves will be in this skin !!! And others will be a lesson !!!
    3. Rusich51
      Rusich51 11 December 2013 19: 07 New
      +1
      All that remains of the once Great Empire is an island off the coast of Europe and a kind of strange Commonwealth, which consists of 2,245 billion people in the former British colonies - that is, 30% of the world's population. But it does not provide any specific advantages to the UK. Tribute to the colonial past. Or a mockery of former greatness ...

      The Scots fought desperately for their independence, but as always, the conspiracy of the elite (the elite) - in the end, the loss of independence. Freedom to the people of Scotland.

      Knock out a decrepit lion's teeth.
      1. alone
        alone 11 December 2013 20: 16 New
        +1
        Anyone who thinks that England will give Scotland freedom does not know enough about English politics and the essence of England in general. Trust England, she’s a vile country, but she’s not so weak as to allow Scotland to secede.
      2. Shur
        Shur 12 December 2013 01: 06 New
        +1
        Was there a lion? The lion does not eat carrion ... It is rather an ugly snake .. green, which is not averse to swallowing carrion.
        1. HollyGremlin
          HollyGremlin 12 December 2013 10: 49 New
          +1
          Death to the Lanesters wassat
    4. Sterlya
      Sterlya 11 December 2013 20: 16 New
      +1
      Freedom to the oppressed people of Scotland !!!
      Workers of all countries unite !!!
      But Pasaran! Victory will be yours!
    5. DimychDV
      DimychDV 12 December 2013 09: 08 New
      0
      The Chechens are looking for harasho to populate the area around Stonehenge - and then, as in Kosovo, to make it the national affiliate Muslim Vainakh district of Vainakh. And this, like him, their English lord from the Council of Europe, to invite this cause to bless! wassat
  2. saag
    saag 11 December 2013 08: 01 New
    +1
    Already shown, for example, Mary Stuart
  3. kaktus
    kaktus 11 December 2013 08: 12 New
    0
    Wait and see what
  4. MolGro
    MolGro 11 December 2013 08: 22 New
    +4
    Melkobritaniya become less and less - THIS IS FATE !!
  5. apro
    apro 11 December 2013 08: 29 New
    +5
    Stupidity is the first priority Angles as Jews, say goodbye but don’t leave. Take Canada as the queen was the head of the country and remained the same with Australia. If you leave okay, then you tie yourself to yourself so you won’t get out of it, plus the eternal conflict like between India and Pakistan. The racist regime can optimize costs but do not lose influence anywhere.
    1. Don
      Don 11 December 2013 13: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: apro
      Take Canada as the Queen was the head of the country and remained the same with Australia.

      This is just a formality. Canada, Australia and New Zealand are formally under the authority of the Queen, but are actually independent and conduct their own foreign and domestic policies. Another thing is that in foreign policy their interests often coincide with those of Great Britain, but this does not mean that they are subordinate to London.
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  6. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 11 December 2013 08: 54 New
    +6
    Russia must help Scotland make a choice. Freedom, after all, is a universal value. It's time to start spreading it.
    1. avt
      avt 11 December 2013 10: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      Russia must help Scotland make a choice.

      And why only Scotland? What is this suffrage for the self-determination of nations? You give human rights and the separation of Wales, Northern Ireland! What is even smaller there? bully
      1. Criceta
        Criceta 11 December 2013 14: 55 New
        -6
        Yes, indeed, why only Scotland? If the British went for it, then looking at the example of a model of democracy and other countries should follow its example. The Germans - Bavaria, the Spaniards - the Basque, Turkey let the Kurds ask ... Well, Russia, as the initiator of the process (your dreams), I think, should also remain in trend. To hold a referendum in Siberia, ask the Chukchi, yes, Tatarstan must ask, in the Primorsky Territory to find out the opinion, Ingermanland cannot be forgotten ... well, and the rest by trifles. After all, the right of nations to self-determination is the main thing.

        Here in connection with the foregoing. I think that the British have no doubt at all about the outcome of the referendum. Scotland will remain ... But the very fact of such an action as a popular referendum on the secession of half of the country, and even in such a country as Great Britain, is a very good reason to poke in the rest of the countries (naturally, only those who need to poke) that we you were not afraid to hold a referendum, gave the Scottish nation self-determination and you really shouldn’t refuse to Basques / Chukchi / Bavarians / Tatars / Aland Islands / Kurds / Siberians (underline the right) in the right to choose where and with whom to live.
        Britain acts very wisely and seems to be the winner in relation to any country where there are even minor separatist movements.
        1. Shur
          Shur 12 December 2013 01: 11 New
          0
          There I minus the "Siberians" ...
          1. Criceta
            Criceta 12 December 2013 01: 47 New
            -1
            Why didn't the Tatars "minus" the Ingermanland? bully
      2. bavarec
        bavarec 11 December 2013 22: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Quote: Yoon Klob
        Russia must help Scotland make a choice.

        And why only Scotland? What is this suffrage for the self-determination of nations? You give human rights and the separation of Wales, Northern Ireland! What is even smaller there? bully
    2. bya965
      bya965 11 December 2013 20: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Yoon Clob
      Russia must help Scotland make a choice. Freedom, after all, is a universal value. It's time to start spreading it.

      Already helped.
      http://lenta.ru/news/2007/09/08/varyag/
      On the shores of the Irish Sea, in the Scottish village of Lendalfoot, South Ayrshire district, near the place of death of the legendary Russian cruiser Varyag, a memorial complex dedicated to him was inaugurated on Saturday, ITAR-TASS reported.
      The Customs Union is open to people with kilts.

      And without humor, they are genetically one and the same with the British, but by race, tribe, others. But the movie "Braveheart" or the first agent 007 says they are ours in spirit.
      And on universal value or democracy or freedom I go to bed with the appliance. There is no freedom and never will be, this is propaganda, love your Raceinu and onrace + brains. The rest will follow.
  7. svskor80
    svskor80 11 December 2013 08: 54 New
    +4
    It is necessary to help the Scots to make the right choice, money and PR. Because we see no good from the policy of London, it means that we must weaken them to the maximum.
    1. creak
      creak 11 December 2013 10: 05 New
      +4
      "He left the hut, went to fight, to give the land to the peasants in Grenada ..." M. Svetlov. If you have extra money, can you think about our citizens first, or do we have no other problems besides Scotland?
      1. velikoros-xnumx
        velikoros-xnumx 11 December 2013 10: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: ranger
        or do we have other problems besides Scotland?

        Without solving the problem with the Anglo-Saxons, we are unlikely to be able to solve our problems.
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        2. creak
          creak 11 December 2013 11: 13 New
          -1
          Now it’s clear that all our problems are exclusively
          because of the Anglo-Saxons, it is they who plunder the country, and not the Serdyukovs, Skrynniks, Vasilievs, ruin civil aviation as Minister Manturov and other locusts ... And this thief was also appointed by the Anglo-Saxons, but I thought that someone else ...
          1. user
            user 11 December 2013 12: 08 New
            +4
            Of course, they did not appoint, but they did their best, and most importantly, the means for the collapse of the Russian Empire, and then the Soviet Union. And they happened later.
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            2. creak
              creak 11 December 2013 12: 58 New
              0
              Quote: user

              Of course, they did not appoint, but they did their best, and most importantly, the means for the collapse of the Russian Empire, and then the Soviet Union. And they happened only later. [/ Quote


              And from whom exactly did these appointments come from? From the British Prime Minister or all the same from our leader ... Did he decide or did he first consult with the Anglo-Saxons?
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            3. usaratov
              usaratov 12 December 2013 11: 04 New
              -2
              The fact that England has always led a very pragmatic policy is something that needs to be learned. And if they manage to influence other countries through corrupt politicians, it’s the problem of others. There is nothing to blame the mirror as they say. And I think that whatever those people do, they will ultimately benefit. And I think that the commonwealth formality is very wrong. Smart people called the empire differently and everyone is happy.
  8. Igor39
    Igor39 11 December 2013 09: 01 New
    +4
    I like the war of independence of Scotland and Ireland more
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 11 December 2013 11: 36 New
      +1
      And Wales too.
  9. darksoul
    darksoul 11 December 2013 09: 09 New
    +4
    what can I say, hi to the colonialists ... they got carried away by foreign policy that they began to ask ... what is happening inside the country
  10. old rocket man
    old rocket man 11 December 2013 09: 26 New
    +2
    Even if it separates, the effect will be purely moral. There will be no visas and no collapse of the economy, Scotland will abandon NATO, which will also not affect anything hi
  11. wulf66
    wulf66 11 December 2013 09: 33 New
    +7
    "PS Over the hundreds of years of its world domination, Britain has made many enemies. British arrogance and hypocrisy can spoil relations with any partner. Nowadays, there are many who want to see how the entire northern part of the British Isle on the map will be painted with the color of another state."
    I think that it would be more correct not "British arrogance and hypocrisy", but British NAZISM - things should be called by their proper names.
  12. q_556
    q_556 11 December 2013 09: 34 New
    +4
    I have been to Britain several times and I want to say the following: this nation has exhausted its supply of drive for several years in advance. Imperia-In-That-Never-Set-The-Sun
    has shrunk to its original size, the modern British navy is just a pathetic shadow of its former greatness, the Royal family has become an anachronism, a booth for the whole world, and their main colony now dictates the rules of the game to them, and the British Prime Minister is proud of Britain's special status as "the best vassal USA". But with all this, does the British themselves care? No. They are immersed in their own problems, so the separation of Scotland (and Ireland, most likely, will follow it) is just one of those very everyday problems. Only the rise of patriotism and the desire to defend their place under the sun can save this country from further dismemberment, but this is unlikely.
    1. usaratov
      usaratov 12 December 2013 11: 08 New
      -2
      I think you are wrong. It's just that the leadership of England is doing everything very competently. They have a lot to learn. And why do they need a huge fleet when their batons, the United States, have it? And to this day, the entire "elite of the world" is standing in line for the Queen. And we would like to learn from them traditions and planning in achieving goals.
  13. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 11 December 2013 10: 12 New
    +5
    The Anglo-Saxons were able to ruin their main rival, the Russian Empire, but the price for them turned out to be too high, they themselves died as an empire with the only difference that it happened a few decades later.
  14. Soviet_Union
    Soviet_Union 11 December 2013 10: 28 New
    +3
    We live in an interesting time, comrades. The map of the world is changing. Western civilization is completing its evolutionary path; now the road is only down to the Stone Age.
  15. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 11 December 2013 10: 56 New
    +4
    Quote: For hundreds of years of its world domination, Britain has made many enemies. British arrogance and hypocrisy can ruin relations with any partner. Today, there are many who want to see how the entire northern part of the British Isles on the map is painted with the color of another state.

    The eternal enemy of Russia, must suffer a well-deserved punishment for all its nasty things that, over the centuries, Britain has been comfortable with in our country.
  16. saag
    saag 11 December 2013 10: 57 New
    0
    Quote: velikoros-xnumx
    Without solving the problem with the Anglo-Saxons, we are unlikely to be able to solve our problems.

    That's right, hello world revolution !!! It is time to return to communist ideals, the only way we will win on a global scale, comrades in Europe are looking at us with hope (Marine le Pen and others) :-)
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 11 December 2013 11: 45 New
      +3
      hello world revolution !!! It's time to return to communist ideals

      It's early, comrade. First, let them split themselves from the inside. Otherwise, our demarche will unite them again. Such cohesion within the framework of one or several large states (or empires) does not help us. But when there will be 1000 "democratic" Liechtensteins, let them try to be against us. They talk themselves to death in parliaments.
      wink
  17. Normman
    Normman 11 December 2013 11: 10 New
    0
    Now there are fewer supporters of secession than those wishing to remain in the "Great Britain". But amid the deepening crisis and deteriorating living standards on the island, the Scots have a real chance. Moreover, the government and parliament will certainly be nervous and make mistakes, and according to the laws of the genre, everything they say or undertake will be used against them !.
  18. sichevik
    sichevik 11 December 2013 12: 34 New
    +1
    It is unlikely that Scotland will separate from Britain. They are all too "civilized". In the best case, they will arrange some kind of autonomy within the United Kingdom. Their intestines are thin, so just take it and separate it.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 11 December 2013 12: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: sichevik
      It is unlikely that Scotland will separate from Britain. They are all too much "; civilized". In the best case, they will arrange some kind of autonomy within the United Kingdom. Their guts are thin, so just take and separate.


      wink So do:


      They are too civilized



      Residents of the Scottish Glasgow called on their mayor to break off twin ties with Rostov-on-Don due to anti-gay law


      Gay activists in Scottish Glasgow began collecting signatures on an appeal to the mayor, Sadie Doherty, in which they demanded that they discontinue their sisterly relations with Rostov-on-Don in protest against the law banning the propaganda of homosexuality adopted by the State Duma. This is the portal Herald Scotland.

      “Glasgow must take the initiative and end bilateral relations in solidarity with the LGBT community in the region. She (the mayor of Glasgow - VM) has the opportunity to express our common opinion against attacks on our friends and loved ones, ”said one of the initiators of the action, transvestite Nancy Clinch.

      To begin with, activists asked Ms. Doherty not to go to the capital of the Don to celebrate the Day of the City, which will be held on September 12-16. And in general, do not come to the region until the Don gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people are safe.

      The appeal was signed by 500 people. Collection continues.

      In turn, Glasgow Mayor Sadie Doherty stated that the Shotladn city and Rostov-on-Don have been twinned with 27 for years and will not interrupt friendship. She added that the champions will have an influence “face to face” and within the framework of the partnership.

      “It’s not practical for a city, country or state to break off a long-standing and mutually beneficial relationship, because one side does not agree with someone else’s position on one issue or another,” Ms. Mayor quotes the publication. “I wrote a letter to the mayor of Rostov-on-Don, in which I clearly explained my position on the anti-Russian legislation”.

      In turn, the press service of the mayor of Rostov-on-Don said that they had read publications in the Scottish edition and in RuNet, they did not see letters from the mayor of Glasgow and, as previously agreed, they expect her to arrive in the capital of the Don in September.

      http://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/78860.html
      1. sichevik
        sichevik 11 December 2013 13: 04 New
        +1
        Yes, something like that.
        I put the word civilized in quotation marks for a reason. I can also say so - well, very "too civilized."
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 12 December 2013 20: 06 New
        0
        Nevsky, yes, was saddened by these peers, teams of peers are preparing for the Olympics.
  19. Altona
    Altona 11 December 2013 13: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: svskor80
    It is necessary to help the Scots to make the right choice, money and PR. Because we see no good from the policy of London, it means that we must weaken them to the maximum.

    ----------------------------------------------
    To come to Glasgow and Edinburgh to have a drink to celebrate the beginning of their independence? laughing drinks
  20. shpuntik
    shpuntik 11 December 2013 13: 34 New
    0
    The twentieth century ended for the British Empire with a crushing score - she lost everything.

    Come on!? fellow Oleg, Komrad, this does not happen. stop The state borders are nothing now. With the increase in the speed of movement of goods, money, people, the Venetian-British influence is approximately the same, dark green:
  21. d_trader
    d_trader 11 December 2013 14: 35 New
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    Dying in the flames of World War II, the Third Reich inflicted a mortal wound on the British lion - according to the results of the Second World War, the British Empire was already breathing. No more than 20 years will pass - and it will completely disintegrate into a hundred independent states. Left without its colonies, the British economy will decline. One way or another, Germany achieved its goal by destroying an irreconcilable competitor
    Especially without going into details, I would like to note that it was not Germany that collapsed the British Empire, which after the Second World War breathed finely and only once, but the USSR, which after the victory showed what it was worth.
  22. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 11 December 2013 15: 25 New
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    As I wrote in the next topic on this topic, they can say anything, but in fact, all this is a big game.
    There is no British Empire, but there is the British Commonwealth of Nations. wink But nothing is said about leaving it. wink Pound and queen hint like a be wink
    Yes, I don’t think that London will give Edinburgh a decent piece of the oil shelf like this. Cases of such generosity from recent history, I do not particularly recall much. Basically, everyone is eager to clean their hands laughing
  23. Arkan
    Arkan 11 December 2013 15: 53 New
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    The "young" s ... shabolda, things are going sour. And, for an old woman with chronic syphilis, her nose is already falling off, further disfiguring the "face" of the state.
  24. Admiral 013
    Admiral 013 11 December 2013 18: 17 New
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    At the beginning of the Cold War, Great Britain became a satellite of the United States and did not represent anything serious. But the current situation with pen.osami is somewhat similar, if the United States also wants to rule the world then the flag in their hands and the anchor on jo.u.
  25. _KM_
    _KM_ 11 December 2013 20: 07 New
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    I want to say that the Germans, of course, spoiled the blood of the British, but it looks like they are not, but the United States with its Finns. institutions (Rockefellers, etc.) became the grave diggers of the British Empire.

    IMHO.
  26. sprut
    sprut 11 December 2013 21: 59 New
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    I do not want to gloat, but they need it! Also, the United States would fall into 2-3 parts, and in general it would be great!
  27. Agent 008
    Agent 008 11 December 2013 23: 13 New
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    The main thing is that Scotland does not join us later ... Men in skirts on our streets somehow do not inspire me ...
  28. Sterlya
    Sterlya 12 December 2013 01: 04 New
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    Still to come. 3.14 s militants from Syria when they return. a bunch of migrants.
    Not to mention that if Ukrainians are given visa-free entry to Europe.
    Still to come. the world will no longer be what it was.
  29. usaratov
    usaratov 12 December 2013 11: 11 New
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    What the British really want, everyone will know later, when it will be too late. You can learn a lot from them. And I think that the collapse of this empire is so farce.
  30. dmitry21
    dmitry21 14 December 2013 20: 22 New
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    I'm shocked...
    from this side did not peer ...
    but fact! - Both Canada and Australia are still dominions of Great Britain.