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Lezginka on the bones of the enemy

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Some Caucasians beat up a Russian girl somewhere, the Russians fired into a Caucasian — the Internet immediately explodes with a bunch of irreconcilable national comments. No arguments, who was right in every given case, who was to blame, do not act as in the Great Patriotic War: could the Fritz be right for us in something? Could Russian pigs be right for them? And in our current inter-ethnic clashes, the same combat identifier “ours is a stranger” dominates, who wants to beat and defend others, like Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, who has done misfortunes to his enemies.


But why today we beat so much on these mutually hateful lands?

There is an old Arab proverb: “The earth is solid, and the ox blames the ox!” It seems that the earth has become just softer: due to the rising oil, which we all live, many have begun to live better, work less, receive more. But in terms of what used to be called “a feeling of deep satisfaction” - full of seams. Power is mean to the point of disgust, courts are crooked, truth cannot be found anywhere, you cannot steal it - you will not live - that's why everyone is sick and hopeless, but there is no mind, no strength to fight all of this. And for the blind hearts, then this national outlet appears: blame for everything, like an ox, another nation.

A man differs from a full pig in that, besides his personal trough, he needs something more than a full bowl. By nature, he is still an idealist - even when he himself does not believe in it, falling into alleged theft and falsehood that are sufficient for success. And the majority still trembles in the soul from hopeless hatred of “such a life” - well, and to its neighbors so that they die!

In the USSR, this human idealism was realized in some kind of equality of all before the law, in some kind of justice, in return for useful work. This allowed them to produce their machines, airplanes and coffee grinders and declare with a call: “I have the right in my own country!” Any Russian could walk freely in Nalchik and Grozny, any natsman in Moscow, making hearty acquaintances, and I had plenty . The older generation remembers both the decades of the national arts and the pure delight of Makhmud Esambaev, Kikabidze, Khachaturian, Banionis, Kuliev — all this constituted the cement and unity of our great Motherland. And this is in the order of some wild, bearish service of the new government, our thoughtful ideologists trample on the principle: we will burn the old images to pray better for the new!

Instead of Soviet idealism, which suffered from the mass of vices that finished it off, of which hypocrisy was the main thing, an archaic religious ideal came. But he didn’t take the best from the past, but the worst: badly combining with the arguments of reason and demanding the same spiritual lies, leads not to fruitful activity, but to worthless idleness. At some instant, our market leaders realized that a single animal market was the free feeding trough, and fight with her! - do not save the country. But in the search for a new spiritual pillar, it was simply decided, in their non-creative vein, to slice over what is on the surface in other countries, what was in our pre-Soviet past. However, tyritting something like a carbon copy is a dead path: you always come across a discrepancy between patterns, national and other hitch.

But in other countries whose patterns we are trying to live now, flying someone else's planes and eating someone else's food, it works! Which confuses our compilers, who think like a naive chess player: but I will just repeat the moves of the grandmaster! But the checkmate is inevitable after the eighth move.

In the countries that got along safely with the Christian ideal, there is a tradition that has found its connection to the current day. And the main word here is a connection that can be with the Jewish, and Buddhist, and Soviet faiths. For example, in a highly religious USA, God is not at all what in our case. "In God we trust" they have written on the dollar, which is wildly Orthodoxy; there, no one thinks about the mysteries of scripture, and the church, like the Soviet party meeting, where everyone goes to highlight their integrity. The pastor is a party organizer, in confession he will ask: taxes, is this how they pay for party membership, do you pay? Do you live with your wife? Do children go to school? Are all the insurance issued? Well, well done, go with God! Who does not participate in this - an outcast, not falling for any good work.

Before that, our businessmen and the middle class, turbid by definition, swim and swim - and never, by virtue of these same national peculiarities, swim!

The main misfortune of our religious tracing paper is ultimately inevitable religious enmity. Whoever faithfully believed in Allah, he saw a Christian in his tomb, and both of them were a Jew, faithful to his covenant: "Let him who sacrifice to other gods be destroyed." And this is becoming stronger with us, because only faith allows us to illusively embody the dreams of justice unattainable in reality. Someone sees her like this: I am in the heavenly bushes, and kafirs are in fiery hell. And Islam, as the youngest and bouncy religion, more often than others wants to ignite this gehenna in reality.

All this reminds me of the story of my father, how at the very beginning of the Patriotic War he and two more youngsters left the encirclement. After the defeat of their regiment, they walked around for a day, entered the village, and there the Fritz. And, still quite complacent with their first victories, waving to the stunned boys merrily: hey, go here, we will feed you! And they froze at the biggest crossroads in life: the terrible Fritz turned out to be cordial fun; unknown, is the war still underway, or has it already ended with the capture of Moscow? The hungry, stunned by all this Maltsov and pulls to go to the invaders, behind whose backs the field kitchen with the aroma of goulash smokes - and at the same time, something holds legs.

And then - that's what a psychology. The whole host of disturbed feelings gradually overlaps one thing: what are they hosting here, who gave them this right? And this subconscious is made all the more conscious: they are enemies! And young people, by virtue of all that the Motherland has invested in them before: free education, the rise of life in their native outbacks, and so on, make their spontaneous choice.

The father says that the legs themselves were dragged to the forest, even though there was a fear that they would palnt in the back. But the Fritz only laughed in pursuit - and after a couple of days of wandering in the woods, our guys came across a partisan, with whom they then fought to death against the invaders.

The same psychology has played in all of our occupied territories. My father, who had fought for two years behind enemy lines, told me more such things, about which we did not write much. Under the Germans, our other collective farms even grew: the German authorities did not take taxes from them, and it worked more on the workday than it did under the Soviet. Artels and factories worked in some towns, the children went to school - but the whole attempt at peaceful occupation failed. Although there were those who came to terms with her, the majority preferred death for the Motherland to life under the enemy. It was only because of this that our underground had risen, into which neither the Gulag nor the detachments were driven; This internal choice of the nation, as when invoking my father to the German cuisine, led to our victory.

But roughly something similar is raging now: the same feeling of an enemy tends to hate non-believers on a religious level, who does not tolerate any reasoning of reason. It is impossible to rise now in decent work - and the strongest natures with which to push science, production and art forward are realized purely in theft and faith. And on their heels, the Orthodox kill every death of a Muslim with a bang - just like the Muslim death of an Orthodox. The most cultural nationals express external sympathy in the explosion of the Russian bus, but the soul is singing!

There is also the economic skirmish of nations in the raw chest, which has weaned everyone to work, who taught only to stuff each other with a cry of a Stevenson parrot: “Piastres! Piastres! Piastres! ”Even suppose, theoretically, that by some miracle we managed to distribute equally from everyone - but this does not console any of the warring parties. Anyone will then say: so that they, reptiles, should be given as much as we? Yes shish!

And this is already a real war, which, within the framework of the current religious upsurge, is obviously impossible to extinguish. We see how this discord is growing before our very eyes, in which the Orthodox will never prove anything to a Muslim - and vice versa. And all the attacks of Wahhabis, which seem senseless after the end of the Chechen wars, are already happening on purely religious grounds.

Our piastre-obsessed parrots amalgamate the Leninist and Stalinist national policies - but they were the most effective, uniting our peoples in the war against the fascists. She stayed even decades after the war, which General Turapin, the former commander of the Dzerzhinsky division, told me about. IN tank The company where he began his service came from almost all the republics of the former Union: “Russian, Chechen, Georgian, Tajik - and left after the service as relatives. We corresponded later, went to visit each other. How it was necessary to try to kill all this! .. ”But - they killed, and now we don’t even dream of such friendship between peoples!

But there were in the USSR, from the words of the same parrots, and unburned pockets of national discord, which de and inflamed the current fire. Yes, there were - as in any organism every infection slumbers: give it free rein, and kill the very healthy one!

But why give her the will - and what is the way out of the national deadlock that is deadly for us? In my opinion, it is possible to get out of it only in a creative way, against which our state thinkers act with some frenzy. They say only tracing paper from the West or Tsarist Russia - and no prophets and ideas of their own in their own country!

But we had our own rainbow splashes on a national basis - like a fraternal alliance with Abkhazia that almost happened in 2002 year. Then all its people were given Russian citizenship, and Russian passports were promised - and the Abkhazians celebrated it day and night: “Long live Russia! The Russians and the Abkhaz are brothers forever! ”But on this holiday, ours, bureaucrats, climbed on the heels of America, ditching the issuance of Russian passports. Then they killed the whole previously adopted plan: the loyal president of Azerbaijan, in conjunction with the Russian deputy prime minister, is mastering a direct report to the Russian Federation for the restoration of Abkhazia. With the help of gangster they changed the results of the presidential elections, putting the “independent” Bagapsh, whom Besik Johnua, the criminal authority of Solntsevo, passed through.

But this patriotic gangster, who tried to push Abkhazia to Russia on his own, was soon killed. And the current embezzlement of Russian money flourished under the slogan "Rob Russians, save Abkhazia!"

So we made of our most faithful friend, the enemy who denounced us for weakness and bureaucratic retaliation. In the same way, they killed all the respect of the Caucasus with their godless theft, which beat all the theft and treachery of the mountaineers, who hold at least some core of honor for their soul.

But then, when all earthly justice dies - and this recklessly launched religious atavism becomes inflamed with terrible force. People who do not know how to pour out their hatred of the current foul trough begin to take it out on foreigners - which is being heated by our foreign enemies, as the best way to split us from the inside. All Internet resources sitting on Western servers are yelling: “Stop feeding the Kremlin! Stop feeding the Caucasus! Russian, beat dagov! Dagi, beat the Russians! ”And the most advanced western project in the form of Navalny marks there:“ Down with all those who came from Moscow! ”

For me, there is only one salutary guideline in this national and religious crochet: when everyone does something, there are also points of friendly contact. When they just steal, these points are no longer to be found: in a chest with fallen like piquids, everything is against everyone - and if it is also on explosive national soil for us, write completely gone!

And it seems not terrible, the promise attracted by the government to excuse its lies and theft: there is no truth on earth, these are just stories of communists, look for it in heaven, gives a terrible result. Everyone on earth begins to hate everyone - and the most optimistic dream becomes to threaten a Gentile and dance a kamarinsky or lezginka on his bones.
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  1. makarov
    makarov 3 December 2013 07: 29 New
    +9
    Various political groups, political sects, just sects and all kinds of oligarchs have a life rule: - If there is no enemy, then you need to create one, and under the shouts of the media, separate the people according to "controversial principles" and direct the people's indignation in the right direction.
    If laconic, then there’s nothing more to say,
    1. Civil
      Civil 3 December 2013 08: 16 New
      +3
      Mil man, the author, who is guilty then? Putin again? Jeltzen? Anyone except the people who degraded into this.
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 3 December 2013 09: 28 New
        -1
        I think no one is guilty, this is a disease in the minds of the population, a social disease of society, you just need to get sick. time will pass and everything will pass, the main thing is not to aggravate with thoughtless actions.

        If there is no doctor, it’s better not to self-medicate, because you don’t know, it’ll probably get better or worse from this unknown pill (reform).

        In the era of the First World War, Russian society was also sick, then the Bolsheviks really solved the problem by amputating the whole leg (the bourgeoisie, the intelligentsia, the aristocrats), and as a result, a disabled person who finally died from wounds in the 1991s appeared, and he just needed to be vaccinated ( ending the war with the world with Germany, creating a constitutional monarchy) and start caring for the sick (make a reform to restore the economy, solve social problems).
        1. Sunjar
          Sunjar 3 December 2013 10: 28 New
          +4
          Max_Bauder, I do not agree with you about the position: if there is no doctor, it’s better not to self-medicate, because you don’t know, it’ll probably get better or worse from this unknown pill (reform).

          If a person is taught to perceive the recipes that are taking place as objectively as possible, then for the most part the people will independently develop the right decisions. And it is the "doctors" with their more extensive knowledge who hang noodles on the ears of less knowledgeable people. Now, if the people and the authorities knew at what cost Marxism would get, then many would certainly have protested against such treatment, and the authorities would have judged the leaders of the RSDLP and other revolutionaries to the fullest extent of the law, and would have taken countermeasures to overcome the situation, but apparently then many thought that it was so will be better.
        2. Ptah
          Ptah 3 December 2013 11: 56 New
          +6
          Quote: Max_Bauder
          the Bolsheviks solved the problem by radical amputation of the whole leg (bourgeoisie, intelligentsia, aristocrats), and as a result an embittered disability appeared on everyone who finally died of wounds in 1991

          Figuratively! good
          But I would correct it a little. Then they turned everything inside out, trying to uproot the heart and soul of Russia, performed a lobotomy, changing human values ​​to "global" ones.
          Hands and feet of the industry. And how! That we reached Berlin (we could have reached the English Channel "out of habit"). They beat the Hitlerite beast with a rifle butt and rebuilt the country.
          But now the "vaccination" is being carried out. They are spied with tolerance, juvenile and democracy. They realized that there was no other way to get Russia up and running.
        3. major071
          major071 3 December 2013 13: 25 New
          +5
          I think no one is guilty, this is a disease in the minds of the population, a social disease of society, you just need to get sick. time will pass and everything will pass

          The disease has already taken on a protracted nature, then a complete shutdown of the body's immune system is possible, and then only the intervention of a doctor. But the patient does not know what course of treatment the doctor will prescribe. It can get to the point that the patient becomes not "operable", i.e. the doctor's intervention will no longer help him. hi
  2. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 3 December 2013 07: 33 New
    18
    Once again I am convinced that people are rams. They don’t even want to listen to who pits them and why. Today I watched the news of Ukraine, they are told that they are not expected in Europe, but sheep argue that this is not true and that Europeans simply can’t sleep, they are just eager to help Ukraine become a developed European power, and that all Ukrainians (or at least Westerners) healed happily. Nobody knows how to think, everyone just wants to, they want to live richly, they want to spit on everyone around them.
    1. Sunjar
      Sunjar 3 December 2013 08: 01 New
      16
      They do not want to listen, which leads to a misunderstanding of the management processes of inciting ethnic hatred. If through the same media and the Internet people were explained how this happens, it would be much better. But there is one bold "BUT" : from personal experience of interaction with Caucasians, I have only one way to make them adequate - pi # dyulya. Only they make them calm and remove the thirst for violence against others. You can say as much as you like, but the majority of Caucasians have a "strong" worldview, who is stronger and right. You can philosophize with them as much as you like, but until you show that you are stronger, they will be rude, insolent, and try to start a fight. Such is their mentality. And accordingly, if you are in the society of Caucasians, be prepared for a fight, and if one of them has a knife, he will probably use it without thinking about the consequences. And here you know or not about the processes of inciting ethnic hatred does not matter. Either you get a knife in the side, or you will work the aggressor and earn his own respect and the respect of his comrades. Let me remind you once again this from personal experience of communication with Caucasians.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 3 December 2013 08: 40 New
        +3
        Everything rests on upbringing, and today it is not parents who are engaged in upbringing in the Caucasus and even more so not a school, all upbringing is given to religion without a fight, and here who is stronger is right. Young people are especially inclined to admire power. The authorities, however, wanted to spit on the fact that young people are going into extremism, they also need to rake money.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 3 December 2013 10: 53 New
          -6
          Quote: vladsolo56
          Today, parents are not engaged in upbringing in the Caucasus

          they’re doing something else ... it’s just that the tricks of some young people do not need to be attributed to everyone else .... unlike YOU .. in the Caucasus they don’t hit the subway ... they don’t steal medals from veterans .. they don’t drink alcohol anywhere. .. respect the elders .... do not throw buzzwords on the streets .... etc, etc ..........
          1. APES
            APES 3 December 2013 11: 01 New
            +4
            Quote: smersh70
            some youth


            just "some" rolls over, and every year more.

            What is it? left home, from parents, from elders - is everything possible? or is it a lack of education?
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 3 December 2013 12: 05 New
              -2
              Quote: APES
              traveling from home, from parents, from elders - everything is possible

              not everything is possible ..... just freedom is misleading. wassat .
          2. Sunjar
            Sunjar 3 December 2013 11: 55 New
            +7
            Quote: smersh70
            in the Caucasus do not hit the subway


            So this is the most ... Probably because there is no metro in the Caucasus ... No?
            Anyway. Departing from jokes, I express the opinion that they do not rob and beat their own, but ours on our lands is the only way. And they kill their own - here and there they will blow up or shoot someone. And during the two Chechen companies? They still robbed each other. Now it’s just that they are under their own supervision, and only scumbags allow themselves to be unlimited. But away from parental supervision, young animals generally turn into animals. And plump, and rude to the elders, and rob, and kill. So do not la la.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 3 December 2013 12: 04 New
              0
              Quote: Sunjar
              And during the two Chechen companies?

              The Caucasus, the concept is big)) You mean what the Caucasus meant .. smile I spoke in general terms .... scoundrels everywhere and always enough .... just a comrade wrote in comments about everyone ...
              .
              Quote: Sunjar
              there is no metro in the Caucasus.


              there are even in 3 capitals ... smile
              1. Sunjar
                Sunjar 3 December 2013 13: 23 New
                +2
                Well done. I mean about our Caucasus. But things are not better in other Caucasian countries either: they generally will go to war against each other.
            2. alone
              alone 3 December 2013 19: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: Sunjar
              So this is the most ... Probably because there is no metro in the Caucasus ... No?


              all three Transcaucasian capitals have a metro! this is just for reference. and as for the North Caucasus, Alexander, you are right. and the North Caucasus is Russia. People who didn’t come from there. They are your citizens with your passports and own all the privileges that Russian citizens have in Russia.
              And if the police are unable to ensure security and public order, then this is the demand from the Ministry of Internal Affairs. So who should be the first to answer why a citizen of Russia or another state does not comply with the laws of the country.
          3. Ptah
            Ptah 3 December 2013 12: 05 New
            0
            Quote: smersh70
            in the Caucasus they don’t beat on the subway ... they don’t steal medals from veterans .. they don’t drink alcohol anywhere, with respect to their elders .... they don’t throw buzzwords on the streets .... etc, etc. P..........



            Sergey Vladimirovich Mikhalkov.
            How an old man sold a cow

            The old man sold the cow at the market,
            Nobody gave a price for the cow.
            Although many needed a cow,
            But, apparently, people did not like her.

            "Master, will you sell us your cow?"
            - Selling. I'm in the market with her in the morning!
            "Do not you ask a lot, old man, for her?"
            - Yes, where to cash in! Return your own!

            - It hurts your cow is thin!
            "Sorrow, damn." Straight trouble!

            "Does a cow give milk?"
            - Yes, we have not seen milk yet ...

            The whole day at the market the old man traded,
            Nobody gave a price for the cow.
            One boy regretted the old man:
            "Daddy, your hand is not easy!"
            I'm standing next to your cow,
            Maybe we'll sell your beast.

            There is a buyer with a tight wallet,
            And now he is bargaining with the boy:

            "Will you sell the cow?"
            "Buy it, if it's rich."
            Cow, look, not a cow, but a treasure!

            - Yes it is! It looks painfully thin!
            "Not very fat, but good."

            "Does a cow give milk?"
            - You will not get tired in a day - your hand will get tired.


            /morality/
            The old man looked at his cow:
            "Why do I sell you, Burenka?" -
            Cow its not selling to anyone -
            This cattle need yourself!
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 3 December 2013 15: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: Ptah
              Will you sell a cow?
              "Buy it, if it's rich."
              Cow, look, not a cow, but a treasure!

              It is obvious that the man was Russian and the "assistant" of a well-known nationality (like Mikhalkov himself) "helped" for a certain percentage. And the moral here is transparent - the "help" of the Russian people in mastering another sin, so imperceptibly, "unobtrusively", profitable. Definitely deliberately a man would not cheat.
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 3 December 2013 22: 24 New
                -3
                Quote: Ivan.
                "helped" for a certain percentage.

                but really bad))) I once said that when I was studying at BSU in 91 years, the teacher began to rebuke us that we were reaching for business ... but ours ... Belarusians didn’t have such a thing ... I told him about it .. . But is it really bad ... if capitalism will soon come ... and many will have to develop a business ...... The teacher did not believe my words ... but in 1993 .. they greeted me in the center of Minsk and he began to offer products alone firms ... I reminded him of our discussion at the university .. he said .. you were right ..... so if society really lives in capitalism .. he involuntarily has to do business ...
                so that land. Having been in Minsk in June ... I realized that we still have business problems .. but this is another story related to the Old Man bully
          4. striker
            striker 3 December 2013 14: 28 New
            0
            Quote: smersh70
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Today, parents are not engaged in upbringing in the Caucasus

            they’re doing something else ... it’s just that the tricks of some young people do not need to be attributed to everyone else .... unlike YOU .. in the Caucasus they don’t hit the subway ... they don’t steal medals from veterans .. they don’t drink alcohol anywhere. .. respect the elders .... do not throw buzzwords on the streets .... etc, etc ..........


            Parenting do something like this



            Now imagine, for example, that this young Caucasian geek goes to first grade with YOUR child.

            Z.Y. where is the metro in the Caucasus, do not tell me?
            1. Heccrbq.3
              Heccrbq.3 3 December 2013 15: 38 New
              +2
              Now this, who will grow out of it? Fuck I need such a compatriot ....
              1. Anatoly. RUS
                Anatoly. RUS 3 December 2013 20: 18 New
                0
                Quote: Heccrbq.3
                Now this, who will grow out of it? Fuck I need such a compatriot ....

                You don’t need it, but we need it. The region knows no boundaries.
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 3 December 2013 22: 29 New
              -1
              Quote: striker
              in the Caucasus metro, do not tell me?

              ..in Baku..in Tbilisi..in Yerevan ....
              Quote: striker
              young Caucasian geek

              don’t express yourself ... the Caucasus is part of Russia .. by the way, he swears in Russian .. and curses I apologize for the great mighty .. so in society it’s not all right that the little one begins to hear such words everywhere ....
              by the way I sin .. I also often say at the end of b ... n .. b .. those around me always smile .. they say his Russian past ... fellow
              ..
              Quote: striker
              now imagine for example

              Dudayev was right - if you’re a wolf, then take it .. if you are a sheep, then bear it .... and I’m teaching a child now ---- hand over change .. be a man .. be brave, be brave as a Caucasian and protect your country as Russian good
          5. Powder donut
            Powder donut 3 December 2013 15: 26 New
            0
            Is there a subway in the Caucasus? You are right, the saints live in the Caucasus, they are becoming aggressive and inadequate here, of course not all, but it so happened that the NATION is judged exclusively by the most negative representatives. Let us recall the case when a group of young people beat the controller and also the people who stood up for them in the Moscow tram. Here is the link (http://www.newsru.com/crime/12nov2012/tramwaymscr3vmsk.html) medals do not steal but can be cut for 30 rubles oh sorry 30 * 5 = 150 rubles. Do not drink alcohol anywhere? And where did the young people come from ?! In the morning without money ?! I will answer you from a night club, we had a good rest, we had a booze, and drove home without a spear.

            What to do with them? How does it relate to them? Why are they coming here? There are no clubs in the Caucasus, or you think some people are better than others only on the basis that
            Are they Caucasians or Russian?
            1. rrrd
              rrrd 4 December 2013 05: 46 New
              0
              Well, you yourself understand why!
              yes because if they did this in the Caucasus they would be strangled in the same tram or next to the tram! why do they do it in Russia, yes because everything is allowed here, and the authorities do nothing and people are afraid.
              the same thing about the club! In Russia, girls are frivolous mainly not allthat their home is not permissible! they come here to relax! and marry your own!
              1. Powder donut
                Powder donut 4 December 2013 10: 08 New
                +1
                The thing is different a bit, recently I talked with an elderly Chechen woman, asked about life about Chechnya, about morals. She confirmed my thoughts about them.
                The Caucasian peoples are mainly a clan society in which all families stay together, the family protects against bloodshed or helps in the matter of revenge, hence the veneration of the elderly and respect for elders and many other positive things that our politicians love to praise about them.

                Why won't they shoot and try to kill people on the tram there ?! Yes, because they know that the cops will look for them and if there is something to indicate them they will be caught and punished. Moreover, if relatives of the victims are caught, revenge will not be pleasant, they will also break if they find out.
                And here in RUSSIA there is a lot of space, Russians live a lot of isolation than at home. Very often things get away with it and now they begin to think that here you can relax.
                As for the girls, we have different girls, no one bothers them to live as you like, but this does not mean that even a frivolous girl can be harassed. I personally have always been unpleasant to even think about contacts with such girls, but the Caucasian brothers coming to Russia begin to collect all the dirt. So think after this, whose model of education is more correct ...
          6. Heccrbq.3
            Heccrbq.3 3 December 2013 15: 34 New
            0
            They don’t do it at the kaffaz, Kafkassians do it all in Russia!
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 3 December 2013 09: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Nobody knows how to think, everyone just wants to, they want to live richly, they want to spit on everyone around them.

      You know, it's like how people live in virtual games. And this is very typical for young people. They no longer understand where is virtual and where is reality. Like capricious children: "I want this toy! GIVE! BUY! I WANT! NOW! Otherwise they will stomp their feet and throw themselves on the floor." And so they do. And all because the upbringing at home and education have become below the baseboard + zombie from all kinds of media. This is beneficial for the oligarchs. Only sometimes this virtual gets out of control, and there is no restart button! And then it crashes! What we see in Ukraine.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 3 December 2013 15: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        They no longer understand where is virtual and where is reality. Like capricious children: "I want this toy! GIVE! BUY! I WANT! NOW!

        Well, why such a complicated "la-la-la-la" ???
        Everything is simple; 1. Who is stronger is right. 2. Who is right is stronger and richer.
        3. There is doubt, see paragraph 1.
        Anyone understands a stick.
  3. domokl
    domokl 3 December 2013 07: 46 New
    +8
    The article is an ode to communist relations. More precisely, Soviet ... And it is designed for young people. Only those who lived at that time read the resource.
    In fact, not everything was so cloudless in the USSR either. There were Western Ukraine and the Baltic states, there was Central Asia. Yes, religion at that time did not play such a role in education, as it is now, it was more likely perceived as the lot of old and old women. and middle-aged people were engaged in work, as they said then, built communism.
    But after the destruction of the USSR, it was religion that took the place of pioneers, the Komsomol, and it was religion that made the youth of the Soviet Union become religious, while differences that were not particularly important in religious teachings began to stick out and float to the top.
    The author called for tolerance and a return to the old relations of utopia. There was no tolerance in the USSR, there was tolerance for notes. And the difference is significant. The Russians, having moved to the national republic, adopted local traditions, not the Russians who came to Russia, respectively, Russians. This is called tolerance. And tolerance is what we see now in Russia, and before that we saw on TV in the transfer Their customs ... When Harlems, Chinatowns, Brighton Beachy existed in European or American cities ...
    1. PPL
      PPL 3 December 2013 08: 38 New
      +4
      There was no tolerance in the USSR; notes were tolerance.

      All right! One could also add words about an ideology that played a certain role.
    2. V. Salama
      V. Salama 3 December 2013 11: 47 New
      -1
      Quote: domokl
      There was no tolerance in the USSR, notes were tolerance. And the difference is significant. The Russians, having moved to the national republic, adopted local traditions, not the Russians who came to Russia, respectively, Russians. This is called tolerance. And tolerance is what we see now in Russia , ...

      Wikipedia:
      Tolerance. (from lat. tolerantia - patience) - a sociological term for tolerance for a different worldview, lifestyle, behavior and customs. Tolerance is not tantamount to indifference. It also does not mean the adoption of a different worldview or lifestyle, it consists in representing others the right to live in accordance with their own worldview. At the same time, tolerance should not give others the right to be intolerant. [1]

      Tolerance means respect, acceptance and proper understanding of other cultures, ways of expression and manifestation of human personality. Tolerance does not mean concession, indulgence or indulgence. The manifestation of tolerance also does not mean tolerance for social injustice, renunciation of one’s beliefs or concession to other people's convictions, as well as imposing one’s convictions on other people. [2]

      When I visited a neighbor of a different nationality, I did not show "tolerance", but respect for other people's traditions.
      Quote: domokl
      ..And designed for youth

      That is, gullible / illiterate / stupid? (cross out the unnecessary).
      Most articles are aimed at young people, because our future depends on them. But also from you, too, since you also contributed to the education of youth by your comments.
      Quote: domokl
      Only those who lived at that time read the resource.

      Did you let that slip out? I lived at that time - I can’t hang noodles on my ears. I read the article, there were no objections.
      1. dmb
        dmb 3 December 2013 13: 18 New
        +3
        I absolutely agree with you regarding the absence of objections. Your opponent most likely entered into a conscious life in the late 80s and lived in the Middle Lane. He is now under 40, and therefore he judges about the 60s and 70s without being an eyewitness. During these moves I had a chance to live in the "funniest" republic of all union and autonomous republics (now it is headed by a very devout great patriot of Russia and its Hero). So there was nationalism. First of all, it was carried by a part of the so-called creative intelligentsia and criminals. However, the Soviet government coped well on the whole. Now (when everyone has come to God, as your opponent claims) we have what we have. Perhaps he is now living better, more comfortable, calmer. But this is only for him and for a small circle of people, most of whom, by the whim of fate, visit their homeland, and more and more in London. She also sends her children there. In assessing the Soviet period, the author has a key phrase about infection. In it I will give the grain of the article.
  4. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 3 December 2013 08: 06 New
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    This is a normal article, trying to explain what's what in modern society at the everyday level. I personally liked it. And indeed, we are already transforming from a society of READING and THINKING people into a society of stupid consumers, easily controlled by the picture on the screen. Moreover, the imposition of values ​​that are frankly alien to the mentality makes many of us, the weakest and most impressive, frankly not outstanding people of the nation - bandits, thieves, traitors ... An attempt to justify ourselves with words like "you always want to eat" or "you can't order your stomach" to the comparison of a man with a pig from the fourth paragraph. People, we stop thinking, which means we degrade!
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 3 December 2013 08: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: domokl
    Article is an ode to communist relations. More precisely, to Soviet ..

    Re-read it again, for example, here "Instead of Soviet idealism, which suffered from a mass of vices, which finished it off, of which hypocrisy was the main thing, an archaic religious ideal came." As you can see, you are wrong.
    1. PPL
      PPL 3 December 2013 08: 32 New
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      Yes, Gardamir, they didn’t teach you how to analyze texts, they can only quote as an example, and even those that are unsuccessful.
      Justify what domokl is wrong?
  6. Ptah
    Ptah 3 December 2013 08: 26 New
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    Another article "about nothing". Quite a few "wishlist, dreaming and reminiscing." There is also a story about how wonderful it was THERE.
    Those present on this forum remember this without an article. How went on vacation anywhere in the country and walked without fear at any time.
    Well, I agree that it was, and almost GREAT. Enough to drive nostalgic snot over the faces, soothing (supposedly) yourself, with dreams of a return to "social values." This will no longer be. All! At the end of the 80s, they shouted with Tsoi "Pemeeeeeeen! ....." ". Received.
    And at the same time they got a side effect of all empires - "liberated colonies". The metropolis staggered and all the jackals from the outskirts briskly began to cut out fatter pieces from its body in the form of "sovereignties" and "national wealth". But they could not do anything with the inheritance that suddenly rolled over. And then they flooded to the former capital in the hope of further sucking Russia. Only earlier, Russia substituted its udder almost voluntarily, and now it is forced to succumb to "stimulation", after more frequent bites.
    The body will not be healthy when so many bugs daily draw juices from it. Only reorganization.
    They wanted to live "according to the Western", so you need to learn from their mistakes. There they realized that it was enough to toil with platonic love for "slaves". Slaves will never have love for their master, but will have envy and frenzy.
    They just cannot, if not to say that such elementary truths are not given to "aftyrs" to understand. Well, they forgot the school history course. But they constantly stick us facts from the Second World War. Like "Ivanov and Kantaria". The author would not rub it on us, but asked the descendants of the "cantarii, wallpaper, and makhmudoglaevs" if they themselves remember those facts. Hardly. For colonies, such knowledge is not vital. They also have a primary task - to fill the womb. It is desirable faster and more. And where...
    Vaughn and the "stronghold of colonial democracy" (England) has already got drunk on tolerant dung under the very Adam's apple. We decided - it's time to expel and close the already open gate. Otherwise, "guests" will not just endure everything, they will also mock the owners ...........
    1. V. Salama
      V. Salama 3 December 2013 12: 17 New
      -2
      Quote: Ptah
      Another article "about nothing"

      And what, is it necessary to chew? This is only an analysis, and synthesis and conclusions are proposed to be made to everyone. Only, it seems, it’s tight with this - it’s a bit small somehow.
      Quote: Ptah
      Those present on this forum remember this without an article.

      Well, firstly, as the comments show, not everyone remembers or everyone remembers in their own way.
      Quote: Ptah
      Enough to drive nostalgic snot over the faces, calming (supposedly) yourself, with dreams of a return to "social values"

      The question is not this, but why then the neighbors in front of each other "did not spring their tail"? And on what basis is it possible to return to this? To arrange a massacre - you don't need much intelligence, and the thirst for profit, fame, power is stronger than the fear of death. However, everything will depend on the situation. By the way, the example with England is clearly not rolling here - we are a historically multinational state.
      Quote: Ptah
      that "aftyrs" are not allowed to understand such elementary truths.

      Here you would be right if the "aftyr" considered other nations of our country "slaves". We are not striving for a slave state, are we? Or is this our bright future?
  7. calocha
    calocha 3 December 2013 08: 35 New
    +7
    The peoples of the Caucasus professing Wahhabism and Salafism are moving away from us every day. Pseudo-religion makes them think differently from what their fathers and grandfathers thought. Young people no longer listen to their elders, which was not the case before. The peoples of the Caucasus have always understood only strength. Ermolov and other generals showed this. Anglo-Saxons do everything to remove them from our orbit. And at the end of the 19th century and after the Revolution (Basmachism) and during the Second World War a guerrilla war was smoldering in the Caucasus. Many were accustomed to easy money, used to not work, not study . Caucasus - Achilles heel of Russia. We need to think and decide how to improve the situation in the Caucasus.
    1. APES
      APES 3 December 2013 10: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: calocha
      You need to think and decide how to change the situation for the better.


      General Ermolov invented the recipe long ago,

      but I would add another to this:

      for starters, in the North Caucasus republics themselves, a legitimate referendum would be held with the question: do you want to be in Russia or not? The answer is predictable, yes. Then fill out all this - document and immediately include General Yermolov in full.
      If someone (Europe, human rights defenders, gays and all sorts of fagots) begins to speak (poke) by poking in the face with the results of a universally recognized referendum - they themselves want to live in Russia, and living in Russia means living according to its laws .

      if they say no, then honestly, every year I want to live less and less with "such compatriots" in one country ........
      1. striker
        striker 3 December 2013 17: 32 New
        -2
        Quote: APES
        Quote: calocha
        You need to think and decide how to change the situation for the better.


        General Ermolov invented the recipe long ago ...
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    3. alone
      alone 3 December 2013 19: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: calocha
      The peoples of the Caucasus professing Wahhabism and Salafism are moving away from us every day.


      Andrei, the peoples of the Caucasus do not profess Wahhabism. There are representatives of the peoples of the Caucasus who have fallen ill with this nonsense.

      Quote: calocha
      Caucasus - Achilles heel of Russia. We need to think and decide how to improve the situation in the Caucasus.


      To change the situation, the first thing to do is to change the local leadership of the Caucasian republics, to remove the clans of these local Tsarkovs from power, put normal people there who should work for the good of the republic and Russia, and not for their own pockets. Do you think multibillion-dollar subsidies reach ordinary people? No .and again no. and unemployment and hopelessness, insecurity in the future is an important element for emissaries of Wahhabism. That is why young people gravitate towards them.
      1. Anatoly. RUS
        Anatoly. RUS 3 December 2013 20: 41 New
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        Quote: lonely
        To change the situation, the first thing to do is to change the local leadership of the Caucasian republics, to remove the clans of these local Tsarqovs from power

        And in Russia there are enough Tsarkovs.
        Quote: lonely
        . Do you think multibillion-dollar subsidies reach ordinary people? No. And again no. And unemployment and hopelessness, uncertainty about tomorrow

        Why should we feed the Caucasus? US in Russia should first of all build hospitals, houses, sports schools, etc.
        And not "ordinary people" who do not want to work, but are waiting for money from greedy, not hospitable Russians
        1. alone
          alone 3 December 2013 22: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: Anatoly. RUS
          Why should we feed the Caucasus? US in Russia should first of all build hospitals, houses, sports schools, etc.


          The withdrawal of the North Caucasus from Russia is the beginning of the collapse of the country. Offering not to feed and abandon the Caucasus to arbitrariness means a call for the dismemberment of Russia. Do you need this?
          1. striker
            striker 3 December 2013 23: 24 New
            0
            Quote: lonely
            .... offering not to feed and quit the Caucasus ....


            Who says QUIT? No one is going to "abandon" the Caucasus, on the contrary, it is proposed to RETURN the Caucasus to the legal field of Russia, from which it actually fell out after the "second Chechen" one. And saying "ENOUGH FEEDING", people now add: "TIME TO PRESS!"
            Thanks to your geeks, like Zeynalov, Cherkesov, Merzaev, etc., the number of people who despise and hate the so-called. LKNov, in Russia is growing exponentially. And these are by no means "Russian fascists", as they like to present on some "Kavkazchat.com". Don't be fooled.
            The recent National Assembly in Novosibirsk was attended by Russian nationalists, and war veterans, and the regional United Russia deputy, and ordinary citizens, and even an Orthodox priest.



            Sooner or later, the mass will reach a critical value and then either the authorities will spit on you and say: "Yes, do with these black people what you want," or the people will move this government to cemeteries along with the LKNs dear to their hearts.
            Moreover, along with the Russians, EVERYTHING will come to extinguish you - Buryats, Kalmyks, and Tatars ... You must already be in Russia.
            THE CAUCASUS WILL BE RUSSIAN AGAIN! But already without the "Caucasians". Remember.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 3 December 2013 23: 33 New
              -1
              Quote: striker
              ALL will come to extinguish you - and the Buryats, and Kalmyks, and Tatars.

              ..that they told you personally ... laughing
              Quote: striker
              You owe it to everyone in Russia.

              only a banker or a notary can say so loudly .. winked
              Quote: striker
              Merzaeva

              your court released him ... Russian .... and court decisions are not subject to discussion ... and as for Zeynalov .. there will be a court and the law is the law ....
              Quote: striker
              But already without the "Caucasians". Remember.


              this is probably from the ladder of America you know better, peacefully chewing a hamburger .. Bon Appetit .. drinks ... The Caucasus is closer to YOU ​​..
              1. striker
                striker 3 December 2013 23: 41 New
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                Quote: smersh70


                this is probably YOU from America’s ladder knowing better, chewing a hamburger peacefully ... the Caucasus is closer to YOU ​​..


                I’m not like I never was in America, I haven’t seen a living American in my eyes, but I've seen enough of your geeks in Russian cities ...
                So yes, closer than I would like ..
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        2. smersh70
          smersh70 3 December 2013 22: 33 New
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          Quote: Anatoly. RUS
          Why should we feed the Caucasus?

          so give it back ... laughing and if you say it openly, representatives of one nation will instantly present evidence of autonomy and possession of the Caucasus wassat little does not seem to YOU ​​.... smile
          1. alone
            alone 3 December 2013 22: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: smersh70
            so give it back ... and if you say it openly, representatives of one nation will instantly present evidence of autonomy and possession of the Caucasus will not seem enough to YOU ​​....

            laughing I dare to assure you Vurgun, these "proofs" have long been collected and they are waiting in the wings lol
  8. rereture
    rereture 3 December 2013 08: 41 New
    12
    Well, damn it, again we are Russian to blame for the fact that we are not tolerant of people of Caucasian appearance. Or maybe everyone is already tired, how do migrants and our Russians from the Caucasus behave?

    As they say, put the pig at the table, so she and her legs on the table.
    1. striker
      striker 3 December 2013 23: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: rereture

      As they say, put the pig at the table, so she and her legs on the table.

      And they also say: "Wherever you are black, don't kiss - everywhere's ass"
  9. Stiletto
    Stiletto 3 December 2013 09: 05 New
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    And yet, whatever you say, I have not seen a single Russian who would shout "Christ is risen!" cut people's throats ...
  10. denozavr
    denozavr 3 December 2013 09: 12 New
    -4
    division into "Russians" and "non-Russians", inciting ethnic hatred — all this was done and is being done only with the aim of preventing the formation of a "new" USSR. At one time, one well-known head of the CIA, I must admit, brilliantly formulated the principles of victory over the USSR, and his plan was practically implemented ... and continues to work ...
    If you look at it this way, after the Mongol-Tatar yoke there were no "purely Russians" left on earth at all !!! All the peoples of the former USSR have a common history, our grandfathers fought together, ate from the same bowls with the same spoons, and I think they had no idea that someday their grandchildren and great-grandchildren would go at each other with knives!
    1. 4952915
      4952915 3 December 2013 09: 19 New
      +7
      "If you understand this, then after the Mongol-Tatar yoke, there are no" purely Russians "left on earth at all !!!" how did this ridiculous fable get it. Russians are a much more genetically homogeneous people than any European. And several Mongol raids did not make the weather. If you think so primitively, then there are no Ukrainians at all, in principle - strictly half-Turks, half-Poles. There are absolutely no Germans - Napoleon alone was worth something! And so it’s good, and the Swedes trampled, and ours and the allies of the negro organized several thousand Aryans. To deny the Russian people is a stupid idea, and to insult them by declaring them "unclean" is simply idiocy, if not deliberate meanness.
      1. denozavr
        denozavr 3 December 2013 09: 33 New
        -7
        several Mongol raids? You read the story, how many years the yoke lasted! And no one denies the Russian people, I’m saying that you shouldn’t beat your chest in the chest and shout that I am Russian, and the rest are lumps! Freaks enough among any people!
        1. Sunjar
          Sunjar 3 December 2013 10: 31 New
          0
          There are historians who deny this action. If that were the case, then as 4952915 already wrote to you, then in the genetic code of the Russian people there would be more foreign blood.
          1. denozavr
            denozavr 3 December 2013 13: 35 New
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            there are historians, but there is a HISTORY and you can’t rewrite it!
        2. Hort
          Hort 3 December 2013 12: 41 New
          +3
          Freaks enough among any people!
          thanks to this slogan, we now have what we have. For some reason, our freaks do not get away with their crimes and misconduct, which cannot be said about the visiting freaks from very central Asia and some southern regions of Russia.
          1. denozavr
            denozavr 3 December 2013 13: 26 New
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            Sheer nonsense! In your opinion, are all visitors from Asia and southern countries? Too daring, doesn't it? I have friends from Asia and from "southern countries", so they are a cut and a cut above many "non-visitors" in culture and intelligence ... In our country, those who have crusts, or connections, or money get away with it! Everyone can pay off, if the funds allow!
            1. Hort
              Hort 4 December 2013 13: 58 New
              0
              where did you see me talking about everyone? I only talked about freaks.
              Yes, everyone can pay off, only in the case of "stray" visitors, the diaspora also helps them in this
        3. 4952915
          4952915 4 December 2013 05: 23 New
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          You will be surprised, but the yoke is not at all the garrisons of the Mongol-Tatars in Russia, these are precisely several raids, albeit with the appointment of governors (from Russian princes) and the payment of tribute. The tribute was paid precisely so that there would be no more raids. And what is typical, the Mongols ran in not at all "to have sex for free." They either killed everyone they came across or took with them, and did not arrange a demographic explosion in Russia.
    2. Anatoly. RUS
      Anatoly. RUS 3 December 2013 21: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: denozavr
      division into "Russians" and "non-Russians", incitement of interethnic hatred - all this was done and is being done only with the aim of preventing the formation of a "new" USSR

      I found the USSR, at that time calling Tatar Tatar could be obtained by a hat. He beat me Russian with almost a heel, now it’s become fashionable to put on a show I’m Tatar I’m Chechen I’m Dag. Now I look at the places where I grew , now children are playing there ........deleted by moderator, there are more and more of them, what it feels like for me to look at it, they do not pay taxes, but to study already in our schools.
  11. ReifA
    ReifA 3 December 2013 09: 18 New
    +8
    Everything is fine, of course, but when the Caucasians, for example, constantly behave as hosts (mostly young people), and it doesn’t matter which country they are in, the main thing is that there are more than 2 of them, then it’s not Russian, sorry.
    Exceptions confirm the rule.
    IMHO.
    1. APES
      APES 3 December 2013 10: 12 New
      +8
      Quote: ReifA
      the main thing that there were more than 2's

      the main thing for them is no more than 2's, but 2 times more

      when they feel that they can get abruptly on the brakes, remember the friendship of peoples and begin to learn tolerance laughing

      but the problem is not even that, but that “they don’t give up their own people” - the diaspora will defend “its own” to the last, no matter how scum it is in relation to others. Look what they boast about: how someone was beaten, humiliated, raped - sometimes even filmed and posted on the Internet - for them it is "VALUE" before their fellow tribesmen. and as a rule, a Russian acts as a victim - and they choose someone who cannot answer, they themselves initiate and provoke.

      I come to the conclusion that now there are much more "non-Russian" nationalists than Russians, and the fact that, since only strength is respected, then it is necessary to act in such a way - to correspond to their idea of ​​the world - namely, to press hard at the first attempt to fuck perhaps even indicative
  12. Archikah
    Archikah 3 December 2013 09: 21 New
    10
    Caucasians behave like a dog pack. Take your puppy home and take a look. As soon as he grows up, he will look for a strong leader. And if he doesn’t find him. They will talk to him about justice and good breeding. He will decide that there is simply no leader here and now he is the leader. And tear you up feeding him. This is the psychology of the pack. There must always be a strong leader (leader). Caucasians never left this mentality and all who crumble in memories of the past are romantics. But in life there is no romance, there is only crude truth. Need a strong leader. Where is he? And power is in truth. We are in our land - the truth will be with us. angry
  13. veteran56
    veteran56 3 December 2013 09: 51 New
    +7
    This begs the word - reservation. Or cancellation of passports as in the post-war USSR for some regions of the Caucasus. Maybe then something will change or will return to normal.
  14. Bober
    Bober 3 December 2013 10: 47 New
    +1
    For me, there is only one saving landmark in this national and religious crumbling: when everyone does something

    I completely agree. The creator has no time for enmity. He is interested in development. Both his own within himself and his own within his own state.
    Do not bend the type. This one gives, this one takes. Align? Grants and leveling only embitters the taker. And when you say to him that you are flawed, they say you need to change yourself. Bully begins, they say, but if it weren’t for you, if soooo developed here. The first does not respect the second. The ambition of the second makes him sharpen a knife secretly.
    Which is observed everywhere. I’m not talking about jerks who comment on political events and participate in these whirlpools. Young is green of course, but when I speak with my peers (40 years old), educated people, I see clearly. Euro value in Ukraine is not to urinate in the elevator, not to throw rubbish on the right and left, etc. What to say if these are values. I always thought that not putting yourself in your pants is a hygienic and ethical norm of a person. I see I was wrong ......
    1. yan
      yan 3 December 2013 11: 34 New
      0
      gradually we come to the conclusion that the values ​​inherent in the "10 commandments", "the Code of the builder of communism" are probably the most correct. Another issue is that liberalism, to achieve immediate benefits, distorts them, to put it mildly, so it is necessary to resist this.
      1. Bober
        Bober 3 December 2013 12: 21 New
        +1
        Europe lives like a hotel. This is not my example. There, countries are like hotel rooms. Each pays the owner, the owner allows you to live. The hotel has its own rules. The fact that everyone needs to be reminded of the rules at the hotel does not need such a thing in the house. What is possible and what is not absorbed in the house with mother’s milk. This is simply not discussed anymore. We have a different level of perception.

        And gentlemen play only by the rules and as long as these rules suit themselves. Then the gentlemen change the rule.

        This is not our way. It is necessary to resist. But how. The strongest opposition is in itself. The memory of the ancestors. As our victory in the Second World War is glorified, we also should not forget about the tragedy of the country in the 90s. The first is our great +, the second is a grand minus. This minus crosses out this plus, and this minus is still being written, and it's getting fatter. This is our Holocaust (forgive me some and wait, and on the other hand). But while the authorities speak of EBN as a person who turned this wheel and this is a turning point in the construction of the state, and then it’s good, we will not understand the tragedy of this situation. We therefore cannot distinguish still white from black. We all erase the truth. Step forward, step back and a little more to the side. A child has splashed out with water for a long time, but we are turning the basin in our hand. Many simply do not have the patience to look at all this, although the position of the authorities is ahead, but without excesses. But the dynamics are not the same.
  15. zub46
    zub46 3 December 2013 13: 29 New
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    Article - plus, to the author Roslyakov - thanks. And for me, who was retired from life, the author’s claim was that the Abkhaz were disappointed in Russia and lost their gratitude to her.
    1. striker
      striker 3 December 2013 14: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: zub46
      the author’s claim was that the Abkhaz were disappointed in Russia and lost their gratitude to it.


      Black goods do not remember. Axiom.
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  16. Slav
    Slav 3 December 2013 13: 51 New
    +1
    the church is like a Soviet party meeting, where everyone goes to highlight their integrity. The pastor, the party organizer, will ask in a confession: taxes, are they like party contributions, do you pay? Do you live with your wife? Do children go to school? Are all insurance policies issued? Well done, go with God! Who does not participate in this is an outcast who does not fall into any good job.

    Dear author, where have you seen this?
    Just this is not and should not be in principle, in contrast to the pre-revolutionary, when the church was the state department.
    Of course, I want to embellish it. As in the Russian proverb: "For the sake of a catchphrase, sell your mother and father."
    1. smoliackow
      smoliackow 3 December 2013 14: 52 New
      +1
      The author does not write about our church, but refers to the Protestant sects, as it was established there .., and here, before the revolution, even now the Orthodox Church calls on everyone to his personal salvation in eternal life, here and now calls on everyone to live for love to his neighbor, regardless of his nationality, he calls for the observance of the commandments of God, but since the author is apparently an atheist, a lot of things are not clear to him.
  17. Ahmed Osmanov
    Ahmed Osmanov 3 December 2013 14: 00 New
    +2
    To hell with all the tolerance! Honestly, I have not read the article. But I can conclude that every day in the North. The situation in the Caucasus is getting worse and worse, and the North. The Caucasus is farther and farther from Russia. Not everyone shows on the federal media, but there is no such day that no one is killed in Dagestan every day. If we want to keep the country in its current territorial form, then we need to put the ORDER in the North. Caucasus, in particular, in Dagestan, otherwise in 5-10 years all this will end badly. Already in Dagestan, the mood is not the same: many want independence and every day there are more people with such an opinion. It seems that it can’t be any worse! And in general it must be recognized that Sev. The Caucasus is no longer Russia, but autonomous republics, except for Russian cities in the Caucasus (although they are, but still ...).
  18. Clueless
    Clueless 3 December 2013 15: 43 New
    +4
    He set the article as a minus, because the article was clearly written by a Caucasian, at least a signature like the Russian guy. For the slogan is understandable, and the Arabic proverbs, and the frequent mention of the word pig, etc.

    Like politicians are guilty of everything, etc. Those. it turns out that politicians force Caucasians to behave like a frostbite on the street, do politicians force them to treat girls like whores, etc.?
    1. V. Salama
      V. Salama 4 December 2013 12: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Bad
      He set the minus article ... It’s like the politicians are to blame for everything, etc.
      “Politics is a concentrated expression of the economy” and there are no interethnic conflicts, but there are economic conflicts that take on a national, religious and other coloring depending on the type and scale of the threat. Since ancient times people have always united to defend their interests on the basis of consanguinity, community of nationality, religion, territory of residence and state. But as for the "elites" (those who have money and on which political decision-making depends), then "nationalism" is only a means for them to achieve their goals and they unite according to class affiliation, regardless of nationality, although " intraspecific ”struggle and fierce is supposed here. However, it is supposed to pour blood here. Because "an illiterate person is always out of politics as a subject and always in politics as a means." What we are observing now. With the collapse of the Union, it became profitable for national elites to cultivate nationalism. This ensured the preservation of their power and advantages in the economic confrontation. But the situation is such that Russian nationalism is disadvantageous (not to confuse nationalism with patriotism, nationalism means the desire of one nation to assert itself at the expense of another), it is destructive. Since the injustice of the weak is often forgiven, justified and quickly forgotten. But the injustice of the strong is remembered for a long time, is not forgiven, and always fuels nationalism and the hatred of the weak. But strong does not mean stupid, therefore, it is possible to solve the problem fairly and correctly, especially since there is a unique domestic experience.
      The fact that we are now "come in large numbers" is, of course, to blame for the power, which goes on the occasion of a business focused on nothing more than profit. Why modernize the economy, plod in the field of managerial labor, ensuring the welfare of workers? It is easier to strive for another "ideal" - the search for cheap foreign labor from a poor country, "migrant workers" who are ready to work for a cup of rice, under the organizational leadership of the national "elite". It is beneficial to all parties, except for the people of these parties. And frenzied nationalism here will bloom in full color, since the brotherhood of nations is not supposed here in principle - there is no basis for it. The “upbringing” of labor by national elites will go only along the path of improving their professional qualities - they will train doctors, welders, locksmiths, turners ... and the formation of terry nationalism. This is objective, there are many reasons for this. Our government understands this (hence the “struggle of the Nanai boys”), and the people ... Chinese wisdom says: “he who does not understand the meaning will expend the efforts of nine bulls and will not get the required result.”

      Quote: Bad
      Those. it turns out that politicians force Caucasians to behave like a frostbite on the street, do politicians force them to treat girls like whores, etc.?

      Forcing ...? Being determines consciousness and “if the process is not controlled (and the essence of politics is control), then of all possible options, things will go the worst way” L. Peter. In addition, in the upbringing of Chechens, for example, there are double standards, such a mentality. But this is not a problem ... if you define the problem correctly.
  19. Clueless
    Clueless 3 December 2013 15: 43 New
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    He set the article as a minus, because the article was clearly written by a Caucasian, at least a signature like the Russian guy. For the slogan is understandable, and the Arabic proverbs, and the frequent mention of the word pig, etc.

    Like politicians are guilty of everything, etc. Those. it turns out that politicians force Caucasians to behave like a frostbite on the street, do politicians force them to treat girls like whores, etc.?
  20. dropout
    dropout 3 December 2013 15: 52 New
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    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/020/krtb228.jpg

    And once it was like that.
  21. sasska
    sasska 8 December 2013 14: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: Egoza

    home education and education became lower than the plinth + zombies from all kinds of media.