Why Eurasia seeks to unite, and the EU - to disintegrate

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Why Eurasia seeks to unite, and the EU - to disintegrateIn my texts, there are several times arguments about the difficult times for the European Union, including its collapse (in the current configuration), while I regularly write about the potential development of the Customs Union. This leads some readers to the question: why do economic laws affect the EU and the CU differently? Or, perhaps, I juggle somewhere and draw conclusions not from strict economic logic, but in obedience to personal likes and dislikes?

In fact, the focus here is not in economic laws, which, of course, act on everyone equally, but in the fact that the CU and the EU have fundamentally different initial conditions. In particular, the EU was created in a very, very specific configuration in which countries with a “southern” economic model began to join the countries with the so-called “northern” economic model, which is characterized by the export of goods with a high share of value added (“high-tech”) .

The latter is characterized by a high share of food exports and tourism in the economy, and the share of those employed in these sectors is quite high. Since both are very sensitive to crises, the state uses to support them the constant devaluation of the currency, which replaces a high proportion of budgetary social expenditures for countries with the “northern model”. After joining the EU and, especially, to the euro area, social and budgetary problems began to grow in them, which were compensated by the growing debt burden and assistance from the European Union.

It is this assistance that makes it possible to maintain a more or less normal system of relations within the EU. With the growth of debt problems and the development of the crisis, the role of this assistance has grown even more, and the role of Brussels, which redistributes it (far from always effectively), in terms of defining the rules of doing business has grown many times over. It should also be noted that, since local industry in countries with a “southern” economic model cannot compete with products from countries with a “northern” model, and the support system based on the devaluation of national currencies has died, then national economies have degraded. And today they simply cannot afford to leave the EU (or the euro zone) on their own initiative, since this will lead to an economic catastrophe.

Then to this rather artificial construction were added the countries of Eastern Europe, in which the degradation of the structure of the economy was conducted artificially in order to tear them away from the USSR / Russia. These countries also firmly sit on the subsidized "needle", for them the termination of assistance from Brussels will also become an economic and socio-political catastrophe. At the same time, the number of donor countries in the EU is steadily decreasing as the crisis develops. As a result, they gradually begin to grumble, as an ever-increasing burden is being imposed on an ever smaller number of countries.

At the same time, with a single economic policy, political life takes place in individual countries - members of the EU. And the categorical unwillingness of citizens to vote for the continuation of current economic policies is gradually becoming an important factor in most countries of the union. Roughly speaking, unemployed citizens are not ready to support politicians who, in Brussels, vote for the freedom of movement of labor, in which representatives of poor EU countries oust the indigenous people from their jobs. There is reason to believe that in the coming 2-3, the voices of this category of citizens will sharply increase - after which it will not be easy for Brussels-based politicians.

The latter are trying to drastically reduce national political sovereignty, but there are good reasons to believe that this focus will not pass. Most likely, it is too late: there is no time for such reforms, and it is not very clear how to implement them within individual countries. There is no longer enough money to support individual countries in which there are serious economic problems - and as the crisis develops, all of Brussels’s policy will go down the drain. And the main reason for this phenomenon is not the economy, but the bureaucratic set of rules and laws adopted in the last couple of decades in the context of the assumption that the economic situation for the EU will not change fundamentally.

In other words, the trouble of the EU is not so much that the standard of living of the population will fall there, but rather in that in this case it is necessary to rewrite the entire set of European Union legislation, which is completely impossible to do. It is impossible to resolve all internal disputes and squabbles that could be compensated for twenty years, gradually and in turn, in conditions of excess money.

Theoretically, it would be necessary to do this: cancel all EU legislation (Actually everything! Since it is not clear who will finance it and how), disperse into “national apartments”, and then get together and start writing it again - based on the new conditions. Practically this is, of course, impossible, but doing the patching of holes will not work either. Since any attempt to change one rule (while keeping the others) will make it necessary to change it again as the ones it relies on will change. Roughly speaking, the founding fathers of the EU did not take into account the scale of the crisis, they were sincerely convinced that the region would no longer face problems of this scale.

The funny thing is that countries - potential participants of the Customs Union have gone through such a procedure. This is the collapse of the world system of socialism and the USSR. From the point of view of the neoconomic theory, this is natural - the current crisis is the last crisis for capitalism for the fall in the efficiency of capital, and the USSR has fallen victim to the penultimate similar crisis. And if we proceed from a similar analogy, then the EU is approximately at the stage of the USSR 1988 – 89 - with all the ensuing consequences.

In other words, the question of how economic laws operate is decided unequivocally - equally for all. But complex formations - such as countries or their regional associations - behave not only in accordance with purely external factors, but also obeying the natural laws of development. And in this sense, the EU is simply at another stage, in a sense, it is a quarter of a century behind the USSR - so it is possible that in another 20 years there will be a large supranational entity Customs Union and a large set of individual states in Western Europe that will will ponder the new principles of their union.
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  1. +11
    3 December 2013 18: 58
    The EU is approximately at the stage of the USSR in 1988–89, with all the ensuing consequences.
    Well, wait and see that the mess started in Europe already visible, let's take Cameron's last statements as an example.
    1. +4
      3 December 2013 20: 39
      Quote: Migari
      Europe has begun a mess already visible, take as an example the last statements of Cameron

      And we note that the British lion did not enter the euro area, and retaining its pound, has much more room for maneuver in the economy, and indeed in politics ...
      1. +3
        3 December 2013 23: 04
        Quote: Nick
        And we note that the British lion did not enter the euro area, and retaining its pound, has much more room for maneuver in the economy, and indeed in politics ...


        that’s why they are Brits, they have succeeded in cunning in politics.
      2. +1
        4 December 2013 06: 03
        The CU is a union of authoritarian regimes, a completely Asian embodiment, when the elites build a collective defense of their rule. Europe is a gathering of southern holodrozhtsy (though the level of any euronishing brood is higher than the most prosperous vehicle of the Customs Union) and quite successful northern countries. The United States fully controls the EU’s foreign policy, while it’s more difficult for Putin, Ukraine would have looked quite organically in the CU, also the supranational oligarchs and the Asian way of governing. We read Rene David and enjoy.
    2. AVV
      +1
      3 December 2013 22: 26
      The West itself exerted efforts in the collapse of the USSR, and now it itself has fallen into its own networks, as they say do not dig a hole to another, you yourself will fall into it, the words are prophetic !!!
      1. +3
        4 December 2013 01: 37
        You are too simplistic about what happened. The Americans were just out of business during the collapse of the USSR. Yes, some waited and worked for a replaceable political system in the USSR, but not for its disintegration into pieces. And at first they were very "troublesome" from the disintegration, because they thought that 15 nuclear powers would appear. They were the ones who saddled this donkey that got "freedom" called the CIS. And the West itself at that time was on the verge of collapse, and complete collapse, but Gorbachev-Yeltsin brought them a present on a silver platter. If at that time the Union would have lasted at least half a year, then that's it: the capitalist system would have ceased to exist. And so this pyramidal system received only a quarter-century delay. The financial pyramid of the West has exhausted itself to the end and now we are witnessing a change of formations in the world on all fronts. It's just that the inertia of the human mind does not allow us to see all this. But the world is changing rapidly and not in favor of the West. We are witnessing an entire kaleidoscope of seemingly chaotic grasping at straws in the name of the West's domination over the rest of the world. But the EU now has nothing to offer even to Ukraine in return - the clip is empty and there is nothing left to respond to the attack of fate except whining and a screen of same-sex perversion. This is the setting of the Sun-West "manually", or rather with his own hand in a Geyvpopey way. And I'm not talking about the United States at all, it has already been leaked by the owners ... of the Western world.
    3. 0
      4 December 2013 03: 12
      Hillary Clinton used to say: "The Customs Union will never happen!", Like we will make every effort, but we will not let the USSR re-form.
  2. +1
    3 December 2013 18: 58
    The EU is approximately at the stage of the USSR in 1988–89, with all the ensuing consequences.
    Well, let’s wait and see that the mess began in Europe already visible, let’s take as an example the last statements of Cameron.
    1. +3
      3 December 2013 20: 55
      Quote: Migari
      Well, wait and see that in Europe a mess has begun

      I consider one of the main mistakes of the EU adoption of the rule on collegial decision-making, and not by a simple majority. The smallest country, for the sake of its ambitions, can block any vital decision for the entire EU. The system of managing such a monster is so multi-stage and confusing that it leads to confusion and sometimes it gives too much hope to just hangers-on.
  3. +3
    3 December 2013 19: 08
    The funny thing is that countries that are potential participants in the Customs Union went through such a procedure. This is the collapse of the World System of Socialism and the USSR. From the point of view of the theory of “neo-economics,” this is natural - the current crisis is the last crisis for capitalism of a drop in the efficiency of capital,
    Laughter through tears ... That's just one goal! The collapse of the USSR.! Next, Russia ..! Decay and house in our country are "fresh blood" in the decaying Western system. Ukraine is the first piece (not the most tasty one) but the main one in the weakening of Russia. (And preparations for this have been going on for a long time ..) judging what is happening in Ukraine. These are the pies!
    1. +13
      3 December 2013 19: 23
      In Ukraine, there is almost a separate people who hate everything Russian. They were before the creation of the USSR; the Soviet ideological machine could not cope with them. Their hatred only strengthened capitalist independence.

      IMHO there is only one way out, let them go in peace, let them go wherever they look and the heart tells. It will be easier and more comfortable for everyone. Galicia must be separated. Why keep knowingly "traitors" at hand, they are not our friends, but if they let go, they may at least not be enemies. And then peace and harmony may come in Ukraine. Until then, the Bandera people, like plague dogs, will bite and tear the blanket in all directions, so long as it is not pulled away by another. This is exactly what has been happening all these 22 years.
      1. +3
        3 December 2013 23: 25
        Indeed, this is probably the only solution that will dispense with bloodshed and other economic disasters accompanying such an event.
        Yes, Ukraine and the EU will sign this agreement, whoever doubts, now everyone else is twisting their hands and get what they want. Again, they will preserve their face, they fought for national interests as best they could, just from the requested amount of 160 billion. Europe almost went crazy. Now they will calm down, think, again the Fed will print as much as necessary. Amid their financial obligations of almost 16 trillion, the requested amount does not make any weather.
        So the funniest circus is yet to come.
    2. +3
      3 December 2013 19: 51
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Decay and house in our country

      laughing laughing
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Ukraine is the first piece (not the most tasty) but the main one in weakening Russia

      The first piece will choke and break the teeth. The moment is completely lost. Russia is already on the rise of authority and military potential. Europeans can’t cope with us now. Tantrums on the Maidan will not help ...
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  5. +4
    3 December 2013 19: 12
    Why Eurasia seeks to unite, and the EU - to disintegrate
    ?

    Because we understand that unity is power. But the Americans do not need this, and they are doing everything possible to prevent this from happening. Divide and rule.
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  7. +2
    3 December 2013 19: 14
    It is necessary to think very strongly about everything that Khazin said. He is smarter than many, and seems to have thought long enough to write this.
  8. Peaceful military
    +7
    3 December 2013 19: 21
    It's like that. I’ll add one more from myself. The EU has become an overly politicized union, while the CU is economic. Swap roles. The EEC was created as a purely economic union, the USSR in the 60-80s was politicized until collapse.
    1. 0
      3 December 2013 19: 52
      Quote: Peaceful military
      It's like that. I’ll add one more from myself. The EU has become an overly politicized union, while the CU is economic. Swap roles. The EEC was created as a purely economic union, the USSR in the 60-80s was politicized until collapse.

      - and when the military is overly "peaceable", then what happens? A military layman or a peaceful military man? -))))
      1. Peaceful military
        +3
        3 December 2013 20: 06
        Quote: aksakal
        and when the military is overly "peaceable," then what happens? A military layman or a peaceful military man? -))))

        For my taste ... stupid joke. hi
    2. +3
      3 December 2013 19: 56
      Quote: Peaceful military
      The EU has become too politicized union, while the CU is economic. Switched roles

      You can’t argue about the EU. But the TS ... Its political role, in reality, will be more economic attractiveness. And then more. In the world of confusion and reeling. Many will soon need to rely on Big Brother's shoulder.
      1. Peaceful military
        +2
        3 December 2013 20: 08
        Quote: matRoss
        Quote: Peaceful military
        The EU has become too politicized union, while the CU is economic. Switched roles

        You can’t argue about the EU. But the TS ... Its political role, in reality, will be more economic attractiveness. And then more. In the world of confusion and reeling. Many will soon need to rely on Big Brother's shoulder.

        Attractiveness, yes, but no political conditions for entry.
        1. 0
          3 December 2013 20: 11
          I believe there are still conditions. North Korea, for example, is hardly on the list of possible candidates. And the economy has nothing to do with it.
          1. Peaceful military
            0
            4 December 2013 00: 04
            Quote: matRoss
            I believe there are still conditions. North Korea, for example, is hardly on the list of possible candidates. And the economy has nothing to do with it.

            This is another question. It is another matter that, to paraphrase V.I. Lenin, one cannot live among politics and be free from politics. But I’m talking about a special emphasis on political aspects, and not about politics, but about passing.
        2. Angry reader
          0
          3 December 2013 20: 29
          yes? ... well, accept England, the USA and Japan, and spotted the days and months .. when the TS sooooo loud to go to the USSR ...
          1. 0
            3 December 2013 20: 37
            Drunk or just alternatively gifted?
          2. Peaceful military
            0
            4 December 2013 00: 05
            Quote: Angry Reader
            yes? ... well, accept England, the USA and Japan, and spotted the days and months .. when the TS sooooo loud to go to the USSR ...

            This is a failed joke ... hi
      2. +1
        3 December 2013 21: 18
        Quote: matRoss
        Quote: Peaceful military
        The EU has become too politicized union, while the CU is economic. Switched roles

        You can’t argue about the EU. But the TS ... Its political role, in reality, will be more economic attractiveness. And then more. In the world of confusion and reeling. Many will soon need to rely on Big Brother's shoulder.

        Well, politics, according to Lenin, is a concentrated expression of the economy, so to contrast somehow one with the other is how to contrast alcohol and vodka. The result from ingestion is still the same.
        But at the same time, it’s better to start with highly diluted vodka, and there you can also practice alcohol through vodka. Similarly, it is better to lure with economic attractiveness in some separate sectors, and there it might be if you were lucky with political drinking buddies ...
        1. Peaceful military
          0
          4 December 2013 00: 15
          Quote: aksakal
          Well, politics, according to Lenin, is a concentrated expression of the economy, so to contrast somehow one with the other is how to contrast alcohol and vodka. The result from ingestion is still the same.
          But at the same time, it’s better to start with highly diluted vodka, and there you can also practice alcohol through vodka. Similarly, it is better to lure with economic attractiveness in some separate sectors, and there it might be if you were lucky with political drinking buddies ...

          What are your analogies, however ... alcohol-vodka. bully
          Then Ilyich got excited, because politics and economics act according to their own laws, each and both obeying only one law - the unity and struggle of opposites. Well, what kind of economy requires the legalization of same-sex marriage, the elimination of gender differences, etc., etc.? At the same time, wow coexist in the developed capitalist countries with high societies that are quite antagonistic to capitalism. obligations of the state. This is also politics, past the economy. Etc.
          Do not drink much alcohol or vodka. hi
          1. 0
            4 December 2013 07: 55
            Quote: Peaceful military
            Well, what kind of economy requires the legalization of same-sex marriage, the elimination of gender differences, etc., etc.? At the same time, wow coexist in the developed capitalist countries with high societies that are quite antagonistic to capitalism. obligations of the state. This is also politics, past the economy

            - the question is on a drunken head - but the powers that be, the financial kings of the planet push all these
            Quote: Peaceful military
            legalization of same-sex marriage, elimination of gender differences, etc., etc.
            solely out of love for art and sympathy for these representatives of minorities? Are they really humans and nothing human is alien to them? Or is some serious economic calculation looking behind all this at first glance with senseless movements? if you answer this question yourself seriously - I can not answer smile - then you will understand that old Lenin was right.
            It is interesting that when a purely economic law is adopted, and when attempts are made to legalize some perverts (there seems to be no relation to the economy, but this is at first glance), the same economic interests are being pursued. laughing The tools of achievement are very different. Here I’m rattling a hundred grams, and here an even more beautiful analogy came: a person’s right hand can be cut off in two ways - using a scalpel and using intervention in the genome. But in the first case, we deprive the right hand of a particular individual, and to achieve the goal of depriving the hands of all individuals living on this pallet, we will have to wave a scalpel 8 billion times laughing And by skillfully intervening in the genome of the most charismatic (and therefore popular with the opposite sex) representatives of humanity, you can achieve the same goal with much less effort. By analogy, direct waving with a scalpel versus waving enzymes (a kind of chemical scalpel) over the genome is essentially "economic decisions vs political decisions." How do you like this analogy? How the military should like smile
  9. +5
    3 December 2013 19: 28
    Khazin, as usual, looks deeply, smart ... A system based solely on the Law is fundamentally inflexible. And when thousands of laws are needed, and for the development of each - years ... A formation like the European Union is a fossilized pangolin. Remember this - the ass is huge, the body is huge, the neck is like that of three giraffes ... as long as the signal from the head to the ass has arrived - the head has already been bitten off. In addition, near each border, the neuron-axon discussion club is assembled, everyone decides whether to pass the signal or not.
    That's right, this can only work on the basis of brute force, in this case, in the ocean of money. Any problem is poured with money, one way or another, money reaches someone who can solve the problem or somehow hush it. But it’s worth the sea of ​​money at least a little shallow ... In general, you need to hold out a couple of years. When everything seriously breezes, it will be possible to negotiate with the most intelligent and far-sighted one by one. Gently squeezing more in its direction. The main thing is that there is no war.
    1. 0
      3 December 2013 19: 57
      Quote: Mikhail3
      a giant opa, a huge body, a neck like that of three giraffes ... as long as the signal from the head to the ass reached - the head was already bitten off.
      laughing good And if they start to bite off your ass? what
  10. +5
    3 December 2013 19: 52
    The Germans, the French and the British are already saying: "Stop feeding the Romanians!" ... I mean, all the Young Europeans and those who owe money, like Greece ... On the other hand, the main sponsors of the European Union themselves dismantled the economies of many European countries, so they have nothing to feed on ... In this regard, the USSR did not give fish, but a fishing rod, developed agriculture and assembly production in the outskirts ...
    1. +1
      3 December 2013 19: 59
      Quote: Altona
      In this regard, the USSR did not give fish, but a fishing rod, developed agriculture and assembly production on the outskirts ...

      So there were other goals and objectives. Socialism is still ...
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  12. +2
    3 December 2013 20: 04
    Ukraine will leave (especially western) and the flags in her hands ..! East industrial and scientific potential there (the whole Union was built ..) has almost been destroyed .. After all, everything will be completely destroyed so that it does not even remind of former industrial greatness! Here’s what’s scary! Russia in 90 = x was like that .. But Ukraine will not jump out of the turmoil (they are not lucky with the heads of state) No offense, the Slavs expressed what I think ..
  13. Christian
    0
    3 December 2013 20: 11
    The very message of the article is initially not correct! Eurasia has never (!) Been united on the foundation of the economy. The unification took place ONLY through the creation of an EMPIRE! Whether Tatar-Mongolian or Russian, it doesn't matter! Empires are created by the dominant imperial ethnos (Mongols, Russians). While the Russian super-ethnos is in "hibernation", no unification is possible in principle. There is no Russian super-idea, there is no new (desired by us) empire ... First, we need to find that Russia that we have lost ... Then everything will go self-submissive.
    1. +3
      3 December 2013 20: 18
      We probably lost something like: ... Balls, beauties, footmen, cadets, and Schubert waltzes and a crunch of French rolls ...? Industrialization, victory in war, space, etc. look already makes no sense, in your opinion?
      1. series
        -2
        3 December 2013 21: 12
        Quote: matRoss
        We probably lost something like: ... Balls, beauties, footmen, cadets, and Schubert waltzes and a crunch of French rolls ...? Industrialization, victory in war, space, etc. look already makes no sense, in your opinion?

        yeah and "lost" - 12 hour work shift in factories
        and the "stallion estate" of parasites (the commissars acquired the truth)
      2. Christian
        0
        4 December 2013 05: 13
        It does not interfere!
    2. EdwardTich68
      +4
      3 December 2013 20: 44
      Monarchists always aroused my unspeakable surprise. Especially chosen as their idol
      Nicholas bloody. This person was not created in order to be a king.
      to you that in the most difficult period for the country, he renounced Russia, however, for which he paid. Now you ask anyone everyone the ancestors of the tsar were nobles, merchants
      Yes, the factory owners. And the story says the opposite, 95% of the population were illiterate peasants. I propose that the monarchists get together, choose an autocratic king to subordinate their lives and the lives of their loved ones to his desires. Rush to him on the crown of the Russian Empire. And most importantly, choose somewhere for yourself life, just don’t bother straining normal people, otherwise they will end up the same way as with a bloody nicholas. fool
      1. Peaceful military
        0
        4 December 2013 00: 32
        Quote: EdwardTich68
        Monarchists have always caused my unspeakable surprise.

        BRAVO!
        To admit, your opinions are often somehow ... controversial BUT HERE IS UNKNOWN! good
    3. 0
      3 December 2013 21: 09
      I agree! Plus, ad infinitum!
    4. Peaceful military
      0
      4 December 2013 00: 29
      Quote: Christian
      First you need to find the Russia that we lost ... Then everything will go by itself.

      Alas, I will disappoint you, probably you are still too young, which is why they are so passionate, but, to put it mildly, underdeveloped.
      That Russia, about which this popular mess was removed, which has absolutely nothing to do with reality, even then ditched itself. Not a single, somewhat prosperous and developing state has and does not arise a series of revolutions. This is the fruit of the incompetence of power, a general decline and +, as in the case of the Republic of Ingushetia / USSR, a successful game of geopolitical "partners", which only accelerates internal processes, but does not create them.
      So God, save us from Russia at the end of the XNUMXth, beginning of the XNUMXth centuries, as well as from the USSR from the time of its conscious destruction by power.
      The best examples are Russia of Ivan the Terrible, RI of Catherine the Great, Nicholas 1, the USSR IV Stalin. Speaking of the latter, I recommend:
  14. SV
    SV
    +1
    3 December 2013 20: 39
    I tend to disagree with certain points of this article. In particular, the EU is too large an artificially created formation to level out Russia's actions in the post-Soviet space, as well as a counterweight to the growing political and economic power - to the east, as a result of which this situation cannot be considered exclusively in the economic field. It is worth noting that in many respects the EU also serves as a kind of lightning rod, allowing the US to quickly redistribute its own resources (economy, political, military, human, etc.) Based on the foregoing, with a high degree of probability, with an extremely negative development scenario The European Union will be the broadest support, including politico-military from all countries - the founders of the creation of this formation.
    1. Peaceful military
      0
      4 December 2013 00: 48
      Quote: SV
      I tend to disagree with certain points of this article. In particular, the EU is too large an artificially created formation to level Russia's actions in the post-Soviet space ...

      Your rhetoric is understandable and it is not far from reality.
      BUT!
      The EU was created during the USSR and it began with the coal and steel union, created in 1951, then in 1957 this union was transformed into the EEC and the energy union was added to it. It all came together in 1967 and became known as the European Community - EU.
      Further more, other countries began to join, even Great Britain, 1979. the European Parliament is created, etc., etc.
      Then the talk about the imminent collapse of the USSR was not even carried out on the sidelines, which is known from the words of those who contributed to this collapse ... And even more so about a separate Russia.
      The next wave of "European integration" has already become a reaction to the destruction of the CMEA / Warsaw Pact and to the collapse of the USSR itself. Here you are already right. hi
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  16. 0
    4 December 2013 01: 14
    Quote: Nick
    Quote: Migari
    Europe has begun a mess already visible, take as an example the last statements of Cameron

    And we note that the British lion did not enter the euro area, and retaining its pound, has much more room for maneuver in the economy, and indeed in politics ...

    Yes, because they were the first to create a printing press at the end of the 17 century, and the USA is their colony. Why should they abandon the monopoly in favor of the collective Euro.
  17. Jack122
    0
    4 December 2013 01: 53
    What does Eurasia mean to unite? Khazin confuses: Putin wants this, but of all those I know, I have not met a single person who really wants the Eurasian Union. I am not a supporter of the EU, I am for the sovereignty of Russia. I don’t really want to go to Europe, and to the EU analogy with Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan, instead of European countries, I just don’t want to. I’m here waiting for the visa regime, I pray, and Vova wants to lure back Tajiks / Uzbeks. Can Russia just gash the customs union with the visa regime?)))
  18. 0
    4 December 2013 06: 04
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Ukraine will leave (especially western) and the flags in her hands ..! East industrial and scientific potential there (the whole Union was built ..) has almost been destroyed .. After all, everything will be completely destroyed so that it does not even remind of former industrial greatness! Here’s what’s scary! Russia in 90 = x was like that .. But Ukraine will not jump out of the turmoil (they are not lucky with the heads of state) No offense, the Slavs expressed what I think ..


    The flag in the hands of Ukraine will then appear on the other side of the barricades. Do we need it? NATO will have time to slip in and stick missile bases before the collapse of the EU and the default of the dollar. And Russia will again have to enter this region and rebuild, but what victims? If Ukraine cleans itself, it will repudiate pro-European Western Ukraine, they simply cannot find a more sensible decision, their honor and praise. Weights zapadentsev drown the whole of Ukraine. And let the EU themselves cook in their own hodgepodge, which is gradually turning into soup with grebes, it’s not a pity. Smart and strong-natural selection will survive.
  19. +1
    4 December 2013 06: 29
    “Listen, Bill, why is the revolution not starting in America?”
    - Taras, everything is very simple - there is no American embassy in Washington