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European Commissioners and Nenko Ukraine

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So, it was not possible to seduce Ukraine at the Vilnius summit with a “euro-association”. Grooms were extremely greedy, arrogant and deceitful. Starting with the fact that under the persuasion of "European integration", as it were a legal marriage, a "historical choice," in fact, they only slipped the association, that is, the bed without any obligations. In this bed Ukraine was offered to completely “surrender” - to open its market, due to which the European commissioners-grooms expected to fuck their “democratic interests”. And then - the role of servants and unskilled laborers in the backyard. Being in the role of the head of this servant Yanukovych associates did not smile.




How would this European robbery turn into a further “democratic development” and well-being of Ukraine? - a terrible secret, for a terrible lie. Just look at the examples of Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania and other Young Europeans, including the Baltic states. All of them have already lost not only any industry, but also, as a result, youth, that is, the future: in the Baltics, up to 30% of the working-age population works abroad. These are all European national disasters, which are covered by the treachery of national elites that have moved to Brussels. All these “European values” must somehow be fed, that is, the European Union needs further economic robbery of new countries to maintain their falling pants.

The secret democratic dream of the European Commissioners was, through all appearances, gaining access to the Russian market through Ukraine. When Russia firmly promised to close the FTA with Ukraine, it caused their public hysteria and accusations of Russia of “pressure on Ukraine”. And what is the pressure? Again a lie. But the European Union could open its market for Ukrainian goods - and that’s just the end of it. But it’s all a matter of capturing foreign markets under demagogic discourse on “European values”.

However, the situation for President Yanukovych is stalemate. First, he betrayed Russia with his European integration course, and “threw” the European Union and his “Westerners” in his pro-Russian voters in the East and South of Ukraine. Calling, at the last moment, the Euro-association “noose around the neck,” said it was necessary “to remove from the corkscrew” economic relations with Russia, and immediately declared a commitment to European integration, albeit on an equal basis. And this immediately put her in doubt, because of what equality with the European Union, “with a noose around your neck,” can you talk about?

As an official power, Yanukovych is de facto at the center of the political scene in Ukraine. But in view of his throwings, the policy of “sitting on two chairs”, this political center fails under the pressure of external and internal political poles. With such a policy of Kiev, any serious money, and help, Russia will not give, the European Union will not give anything at all, because it has no money at all.

What does his heart calm down? The European Union will start avenging the “Yanukovych regime”, in fact, has already begun to avenge, sending its zapadenskuyu “fifth column” to euromaidans. Yanukovych will apparently continue to pursue a situational "multi-vector" policy, and will fall deeper and deeper, and will repeat, in the end, the fate of President Kuchma. When the authority of the central authority in Ukraine falls to the level of the plinth, the States, the ideological inspirer of the Eastern Partnership policy, are unlikely to escape the temptation to repeat the “controlled chaos” in Ukraine - the new Orange Revolution. The hands of the European Union. If “peacefully” it is impossible to lay Ukraine in American hands, it means that you will get Orange chaos.

But the repetition of "Kuchma" in detail is unlikely to happen. It is unlikely that Putin this time will calmly look at the European robbery of the machine-building complex of Ukraine, focused on Russia, and even near its borders. He will be forced to support the pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, for example, the Ukrainian Choice, and then the political half-life of Ukraine will begin.

In general, nothing else for Russia, in the person of Putin, remains. The main European and democratic value of "Europe", along with the usual egoism and new-fashioned homosexuality, continues to be the image of Russia as an "evil empire", which again began to be lovingly recreated at the Euro summit in Vilnius. This is the cornerstone value on which the whole of European democracy-demagoguery, under the control of bureaucrats from Brussels.

And Russia will always be guilty before “Europe”, will be an “evil empire”, because “Europe” always wants to eat. And pay for it with tales of human rights, the rule of law, and the rule of law. While the essence of European democracy is simple: demagoguery and shameless manipulation of public opinion, an almost literal repetition of the Roman "democracy" with its "bread and circuses for the plebs." There is nothing new under the sun. But there is no place to take bread any more, Ukraine is its last “bread and show”.

The impudence of today's democratic lies, especially after the “Snowden case” and “Assange”, the secret prisons of the CIA, the financial scams of the largest Western banks and the humanitarian bombings of many countries that have redeemed international law and the right to life of millions of people, are striking. However, for a long time you can only deceive those who are happy to be deceived ...
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  1. GUSAR
    GUSAR 2 December 2013 07: 23
    -29 qualifying.
    But do not we care about this Ukraine? They want to be independent - for God's sake, only at their own expense !!! Do they want to go to Europe ?! They’d bring it down soon ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 07: 27
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      Quote: GUSAR
      Do they want to go to Europe ?!

      They want both to Europe and, as it were, to Russia. Given what is happening in Kiev now and how the EU is reacting to it belay On my own behalf, I congratulate the next clown who wanted to sit on two chairs.
      Well, how is Yanukovych sitting there for you, not squeezing anything, not pushing?
      1. MG42
        MG42 2 December 2013 07: 33
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Given what is happening in Kiev now

        at the end of the week, a lot of information about Ukraine was presented in the comments in the comments yesterday.
        In addition, the journalist managed to shoot a unique video on the phone as a special forces golden eagle right next to the presidential administration <work> as he did it there is in detail
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 07: 47
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          Quote: MG42
          n how the special forces golden eagle right next to the presidential administration <work> how he did it there is in detail

          Well, these frames will now be on all channels of the EU and the USA.
          1. svp67
            svp67 2 December 2013 10: 25
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            Quote: MG42
            In addition, the journalist managed to shoot a unique video on the phone as a special forces golden eagle right next to the presidential administration <work>

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, these frames will now be on all channels of the EU and the USA.

            Compare

            Maybe America should remember and show its recent past ...
            1. svp67
              svp67 2 December 2013 10: 41
              +8
              Quote: svp67
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              Germany
              1. Tatarus
                Tatarus 2 December 2013 11: 26
                22
                The Germans are handsome. And both those and others. 3/4 of the country is against, and the government does not care. And in Russia, in Russia, does it mean problems with democracy? ... Liberasty wish you to be all passengers of this train.
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 2 December 2013 12: 32
                  13
                  Quote: Tatarus
                  The Germans are handsome. And both those and others.

                  You very rightly noticed! It is not at all similar to similar cases in Russia or in Ukraine. In Bundasia, policemen are certainly not liked, but at least they are respected and feared. And those, in turn, "reciprocate."
                  It is clear that the "Caucasoid greens" are strikingly different from the "Biryulyov's little boys" or "Ukrainian Tyagnibouvites", but even the farmers and nationalists who are "pumping the rights" will come to mind to rush at the policeman with something that vaguely resembles an object that can harm health.
                  So, they screech, roll around and "helpfully" allow themselves to be gassed with "peppercorns" and take them to the "gazelle-vagin". This is something like the national fun of idle youth here.
                  There are many such actions, but the maximum of "victims" is elbows ripped off on the asphalt (when two female policemen cannot lift a hog that has eaten up on parental money and simply drag him by the legs). But even then the "dragged" does not dare to jerk his foot, so as not to accidentally fall into disfavor. Otherwise, they will be flattened with a bludgeoner.
                  The analysis in the department will not be frail, but the police will be punished exponentially (sometimes it happens), and the civilian will receive a considerable fine, or a term of 2-3 years.
                  1. gych
                    gych 2 December 2013 16: 27
                    +1
                    not that country, not that people! accordingly not those methods!
                    1. Ptah
                      Ptah 2 December 2013 17: 16
                      +8
                      Always and to everyone, for some reason it gets to the wrong people and the wrong country. Therefore, in Russia, in Germashka, they urgently import "correct citizens" - Turks, Persians, Pak, Tajiks, Chich .......
                      As long as they get the "social" they always vote the right way. And the locals do not care from the high bell tower. More precisely a minaret ...
                      But the methods are just those they are used to in their own "democracies". But when they are used against them, they whine pitifully and crawl into the cylindrical visors.
                2. domokl
                  domokl 2 December 2013 19: 31
                  +5
                  Quote: Tatarus
                  But in Russia in our country means problems with democracy?

                  We have order in Russia wisely ... Polra is already ending with a soviet approach to information, a rally was shown, it means the whole country is against ... Yes, nifiga ... We also have blue-pink ones and what? Are they representatives of the people?
                  There is a very simple, but for some reason not beloved by many rule-democracy, it is the power of the MOST people, and not the whole people. All people are not one. There is a victorious majority.
            2. MG42
              MG42 2 December 2013 10: 50
              -10 qualifying.
              Quote: svp67
              Compare

              Seryozha, where is USA when speech about Ukraine? Let's compare it with Sudan or Egypt? In USA, SWAT special forces disperse rallies or maybe just the police ??
              Acceleration of the Maidan specially

              Golden Eagle Attack
              1. Tatarus
                Tatarus 2 December 2013 11: 17
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                What the hell is a degradant?
                Quote: MG42
                In USA, SWAT special forces disperse rallies or maybe just police
                I would beat as if I would have thought that there is a big difference who scratches me with a club. An ordinary cop or riot police. Change your nickname to "MAIDANOFIL". It will suit you more in color.

                Second, the Walstreites and the green Germans simply sat. And maydaunas aggressively attacked sometimes even with the use of construction equipment. So you really do not see the difference? Oculist!!! Okulista here !!! We have a BLIND !!! laughing
                1. MG42
                  MG42 2 December 2013 11: 28
                  -25 qualifying.
                  Quote: Tatarus
                  What the hell is a degradant?


                  Quote: Tatarus
                  Change your nickname to "MAIDANOFIL" It will suit you more in color

                  Quote: Tatarus
                  Oculist!!! Okulista here !!! We have a BLIND !!!

                  You’ll stick labels at your 5th point, especially since I didn’t ask you a question. angry
                  1. Tatarus
                    Tatarus 2 December 2013 11: 51
                    14
                    Not to me? So handle personal questions in PM. hi
                    Then I understand that it’s not for me.

                    And your attention to mine
                    Quote: MG42
                    5th point
                    raises the question. Are you definitely not a European integrator? laughing

                    Strongly do not fool. I have a temperature (get sick) and it is possible in some places nonsense (alcohol)
                    1. MG42
                      MG42 2 December 2013 12: 18
                      -14 qualifying.
                      Quote: Tatarus
                      Strongly do not fool. I have a temperature (get sick) and it is possible in some places nonsense (alcohol)

                      Or verbal diarrhea. There was a post to Sergei Svp67 >>> who else is blind to see.
                      Drink more pills with alcohol when you are sick.
                      1. Tatarus
                        Tatarus 2 December 2013 21: 59
                        +2
                        Ay-ah offended by the evil marshal wink Just like a kindergarten customer. Call a nanny or calm down yourself?
                      2. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 3 December 2013 04: 21
                        +3
                        Quote: Tatarus
                        Ay-ah offended by the evil marshal

                        And there are many of us such evil marshals bully Are you bored?
            3. svp67
              svp67 2 December 2013 11: 18
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              Quote: MG42
              Quote: svp67
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              Seryozha, where is USA when speech about Ukraine?

              You do not understand that the US Constitution proclaimed freedom of speech and actions of citizens for their rights, this is what the leaders of Ukraine are striving for, in words. So people look and remember what words mean, and what a TRUE Western democracy it is. "Occupy Woil Street" and the current Ukrainian "Euromaidan" are very similar ... and the actions of the police too. Although, of course, I agree with the fact that someone SPECIALLY escalates, even HEATS the situation in Ukraine.
              1. Hudo
                Hudo 2 December 2013 11: 26
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                Quote: svp67
                I agree that somebody SPECIALLY escalates, even inflames the situation in Ukraine.


                Yes, you quit! SOMEBODY!? laughing Incognito of this notorious somebody, has long been no secret to anyone, and no secret for a long time. It's no secret before this one somebody, lit up in Iraq, Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria .... Long before that.
              2. MG42
                MG42 2 December 2013 11: 33
                0
                Quote: svp67
                You don’t understand what the US Constitution has proclaimed - the freedom of speech and actions of citizens for their rights, this is what the leaders of Ukraine strive for in words.

                Our leader until recently allegedly sought to European values. About the United States from the mouth of Yanukovych, you can link?
                1. svp67
                  svp67 2 December 2013 12: 47
                  +9
                  Quote: MG42
                  Our leader, until recently, allegedly strove for European values.


                  Kiev. November 30th. INTERFAX.RU - The United States of America condemns the violent dispersal of protesters in central Kiev and calls on the Ukrainian government to respect the principles of freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.

                  "The United States condemns the violence against protesters at Maidan Nezalezhnosti committed today at dawn. We call on the Ukrainian government to respect the rights of civil society and the principles of freedom of speech and assembly, which are fundamental to democratic values ​​and a cornerstone of our strategic partnership," the statement said. the US Embassy in Ukraine, distributed on Saturday by the press service of the diplomatic service.

                  The US also calls on the Ukrainian government to "create a positive atmosphere for civil society and for the free expression and exchange of thoughts among Ukrainian citizens."


                  What hypocrites are they ...
                  Each time they forcefully "crush" their protesters ...
                  1. MG42
                    MG42 2 December 2013 13: 11
                    -1
                    Quote: svp67
                    What hypocrites are they?

                    Seryozha, I didn’t ask about this, but about where Yanukovych proclaimed that he follows the traditions of US democracy.
                    Quote: svp67
                    this is what the leaders of Ukraine are striving for.

                    I don’t need the State Department’s statement the day before yesterday I’ve been in the know and read it earlier wink news quickly reaches us, by the way look what about petitions there once the State Department’s speech came. 1 already gained more than 120 thousand votes, the second more than 50 thousand, orange woodpeckers and the diaspora were prescribed the 3rd and 4th more.
                  2. Cherdak
                    Cherdak 2 December 2013 23: 08
                    +9
                    Quote: svp67
                    What hypocrites are they ...
                    1. Sandov
                      Sandov 5 December 2013 13: 41
                      +2
                      Quote: Cherdak
                      Quote: svp67
                      What hypocrites are they ...

                      The caricature is good, that’s how liberalists work.
            4. Ptah
              Ptah 2 December 2013 12: 49
              21
              Quote: MG42
              Acceleration of the Maidan specially

              Quote: MG42
              Golden Eagle Attack

              Yesterday in the program, priest Smirnov quoted (?) Some words spoken in the last century. Approximately - "If the tsarist regime at the beginning of the XX century shot a couple of thousand liberals of that time, then the coup of 17 would have been avoided."
              If Alexander had not "sent for 101 km.", But would have rotted in the penal servitude of pimply bombers, there would not have been today's events in Ukraine (nezalezhnoy).

              You and I must understand that we have the right to "shake the regime" by any means that do not go beyond reasonable limits.
              And after the "Berkutites" "address" us, in their characteristic delicate manner, we should, if not get away, then dive into the ground with our muzzles, spreading our arms and legs.
              Or we will get an "attack", as you say. They are "sharpened" for that, whether we like it or not ........ hi
            5. gych
              gych 2 December 2013 16: 25
              23
              golden eagle krosava! must push all this Bendery trash!
              1. 222222
                222222 2 December 2013 17: 12
                25
                gych (1) UA Today, 16:25 ↑
                Golden eagle Krosava ,,,.
                The head of the Odessa region has just spoken on TV .. The events taking place in Kiev and a number of cities in Western Ukraine, assessed as "an attempt at a coup d'etat" and recalled the results of the Maidan in 2004 - at the time of that outrage, GDP growth was 14 percent a year, after the Maidan and "the successful rule of Yushchenko and twice Prime Minister Tymoshenko - GDP fell deeply to the MINUS, from which they still have not crawled out ..
                1. ATATA
                  ATATA 2 December 2013 17: 22
                  +9
                  Quote: 222222
                  gych (1) UA Today, 16:25 ↑
                  Golden eagle Krosava ,,,.
                  The head of the Odessa region has just spoken on TV .. The events taking place in Kiev and a number of cities in Western Ukraine, assessed as "an attempt at a coup d'etat" and recalled the results of the Maidan in 2004 - at the time of that outrage, GDP growth was 14 percent a year, after the Maidan and "the successful rule of Yushchenko and twice Prime Minister Tymoshenko - GDP fell deeply to the MINUS, from which they still have not crawled out ..
                  good
                  Russian people, will you ever get wiser?
                  1. Sandov
                    Sandov 5 December 2013 13: 43
                    -1
                    Quote: ATATA
                    Russian people, will you ever get wiser?

                    It’s time to get wiser, the liberals are planting ours in Little Russia like suckers. It's a shame damn it.
                2. In the book
                  In the book 2 December 2013 17: 43
                  -7
                  Statistics only:
                  source: https://www.google.com.ua/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp
                  _cd & hl = ru & dl = ru & idim = country: UKR: ROM
                  GDP of Ukraine:
                  2004 - $ 64,833 billion President Kuchma, Prime Minister Yanukovych
                  2005 - $ 86,142 billion. President Yushchenko, Prime Minister Tymoshenko, Yekhanurov
                  2006 - $ 107,753 billion; President Yushchenko, Prime Minister Yekhanurov, Yanukovych
                  1. 222222
                    222222 2 December 2013 18: 08
                    +3
                    Statistics only:
                    -28 12 04- 5 01 05 Yanukovych
                    -5 01 05-24 01 05 Azarov
                    -24 01 15-8 09 05 Tymoshenko
                    -8 09 05-4 08 06 Yekhanurov
                    -4 08 06-18 12 07 Yanukovych
                    -18 09 07—3 03 10 Tymoshenko
                    -3 03 10—11 03 10 — Turchinov
                    -11 03 10 — nv Azarov

                    The dynamics of Ukraine’s GDP from 2002 to 2012 (in mln. UAH.

                    2009 913345 -34711 -3.7% 117152 -62230 -34.7%
                    http://index.minfin.com.ua/index/gdp/

                    The same data per capita:
                    2009 19871,4 -674.4 -3.3% 2548,8 -1338.6 -34.4% 45962,9
                    Do not forget that the economy. launched by the previous government continues to work for a new government for some time
              2. Cherdak
                Cherdak 2 December 2013 22: 40
                +6
                Quote: gych
                you have to push all this Bendery trash!


                Pipets, lads, you are expected to complete:

                President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych assured European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso that he will take all necessary steps to mitigate the political crisis in Ukraine.
                In particular, Viktor Yanukovych expressed his readiness to thoroughly investigate the facts of excessive use of force by the Ukrainian police and bring the results of this investigation to the public.


                Your Guarantor of the siloviks will merge, it will merge it, and "Berkut" will spit and run away. Then such a hopak with a raid will go that will not seem weak to anyone ...
            6. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 2 December 2013 21: 16
              10
              Quote: MG42
              Golden Eagle Attack

              The special forces would restore order, otherwise anyone who didn’t like it would storm the government; persuasions do not work against rebar.
              The video shows at the end how many people will sit in the West for such meetings, in America they would have shot at such demonstrators.
              1. MG42
                MG42 2 December 2013 22: 05
                0
                Yes, I mean = why compare the United States with Ukraine, because Ukraine will not join the United States, instead the majority attacked to minus, as it favors joining Russia or Ukraine’s accession to the CU after one, here in the comments that someone opposed Russia or TS ?? I am against Yanukovych! Cons from his supporters, I doubt that so many of them have so many. And in general, the former prisoner = commander in chief, know-how ..
                Here's how it works intelligently Moscow riot police, holding hands with a chain without the use of special equipment, are driving the protesters from Moscow's Triumfalnaya Square, it is worth learning, of course, the protesters are not so aggressive >>
                1. Hudo
                  Hudo 2 December 2013 22: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: MG42
                  I am against Yanukovych!

                  Have you seen those who are "FOR"? I haven't seen it. They voted for him in the elections only because the Yulkin's quirks were already bored, but it turned out ...
                  Quote: MG42
                  Here's how intelligently Moscow riot police work holding hands in a chain without the use of special equipment

                  Sergei, do you really not see the difference between hamsters and past with the connivance (protection) of the SBU appropriate training natsyuganami? What is there for the two psheks that were caught during the dispersal of the maydauning? Come on, the Cossack women from Pshekia, or something about it, is silent.
                  1. MG42
                    MG42 2 December 2013 22: 25
                    +4
                    Where in the VO? Akim just for Yanukovych and there is still ..
                    Yes, I don’t want to write about the “brotherhood”, but the more time passes, the more time you realize that the protest-stalling under the AP was staged, this tractor-loader could not stand in that zone just like that, and much more. Bangkok, exactly such a tractor was shown on the news going to their police, one to one I will find a photo I will post laughing
                    1. Akim
                      Akim 2 December 2013 22: 35
                      10
                      Quote: MG42
                      Akim just for Yanukovych and there is still ..

                      I am not for Yanyka. I am not for the Reds or for the Whites I, for that part of the people that the Ukrainian media have forgotten. Acceleration of demonstrators by Golden Eagle is not good. But if you are pleased to see red-black banners in Kiev, then you and I are not on the way. Tyagnibok called on the army to support their coup. This is the first time in all new history. Special services need to go through their homes and arrest all the fuck so that these creatures do not provoke armed disobedience. But Yanyk has a small intestine in front of the West.
                    2. MG42
                      MG42 2 December 2013 22: 41
                      +5
                      Quote: Akim
                      I am not for Yanyka. I'm not for red or for white

                    3. Akim
                      Akim 2 December 2013 22: 53
                      +5
                      Quote: MG42
                      MG42

                      And where have I changed my mind? Or should I not go to the polls because I do not like him to have Rabbit and Tyagnibok come to power?
                    4. MG42
                      MG42 2 December 2013 23: 12
                      +3
                      Quote: Akim
                      Let Yanyk tell FAS that the working guys from the southeast will come together and go to Kiev. The capital farts from the multimillion influx. I take three more.

                      In short, this is a primitive manipulation. laughing you are for him anyway.
                    5. Akim
                      Akim 2 December 2013 23: 23
                      +4
                      Quote: MG42
                      you are for him anyway.

                      Well, since it’s more convenient for you to divide fractions - let me be for it.
                    6. MG42
                      MG42 3 December 2013 13: 17
                      +2
                      Quote: Akim
                      Well, since it’s more convenient for you to divide fractions

                      Akim about the golden eagle, so you remember from Odessa the gang of Dyakayev? So the golden eagle there specifically failed, 100 Golden Eagles could not cope with the 2 Chechens who had only Kalash and grenades, I had to call the special forces of the SBU alpha and special means from Kiev, including grenade launchers smashed a hotel in the center of Odessa to smithereens.


                      So the golden eagle is effective against students and grannies.
              2. Sandov
                Sandov 5 December 2013 13: 48
                0
                Quote: MG42
                Quote: Akim
                I am not for Yanyka. I'm not for red or for white


                Well, actually Akim is consistent in his statements. A person is ill for Little Russia.
            7. Hudo
              Hudo 2 December 2013 22: 43
              +2
              Quote: Akim
              Intelligence agencies need to go through their homes and arrest all the fuck so that these creatures do not provoke armed disobedience.

              What kind of special services?
              "freedom" is a draft of the authorities to cheer up their electorate. Now this u-parent wants to stand on his crooked legs and walk along the fascist path.
              It has long been known - to create manual fascism and drive it on a short leash is impossible.
            8. Lesnik
              Lesnik 2 December 2013 22: 44
              +3
              Good evening Kim drinks everything is not as tragic as the media want to show wink Well, gathered .... Well, they started .... Well, WHAT? but nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !!!! People both lived and live, NOTHING has changed FOR them. How they went to the robot and go, how they planned what to present to their loved ones for the New Year and they plan. And you should not waste your time and nerves on these little-cold laughing
            9. Tatarus
              Tatarus 2 December 2013 23: 02
              0
              For the green or what? Makhnovets YOU?

              Quote: Akim
              I'm not for red or for white
            10. Arkan
              Arkan 3 December 2013 00: 03
              +8
              Quote: Akim
              Tyagnibok called on the army to support their coup.

              Well, this is normal! The more such calls and actions (seizure of administrative buildings, etc.), the sadder the fate of the nationalists will be after the failure of the "revolution".
              Quote: Akim
              But Yanyk has a small intestine in front of the West.

              HZ Vot is listening to his speech on TV right now - he speaks of a strategic partnership with Russia ...
            11. Hudo
              Hudo 3 December 2013 00: 17
              +2
              Quote: Arkan

              HZ Vot is listening to his speech on TV right now - talks about strategic partnership with Russia


              Do you believe him? He twists and lies. Slippery bastard, like a burbot. am
            12. Arkan
              Arkan 3 December 2013 00: 28
              +3
              Quote: Hudo
              Do you believe him?

              No, I don’t believe it. But since Ukraine has to choose between a gang and a gang of demagogues - let there be a gang (a negative image can also be useful ...). Yanukovych can now talk about integration into the EU as much as he wants, but it already has no meanings - businessmen from the EU will not forgive him this joke.
            13. Hudo
              Hudo 3 December 2013 00: 47
              +4
              Quote: Arkan
              Yanukovych can now talk about integration into the EU as much as he wants, but that no longer matters - EU businessmen will not forgive him this joke.


              It seems that the info jumped into ukrnet, that Azarov no longer mooed about 160 billion euros, asks at least 10. Yes, and the lousy baroza called Vitro, the rear * the student is cutting.

              Also, Warsaw - President of Poland Bronislaw Komorowski clicking on the e-mail for the sake of the national bezpeki. Members for the sake of ministers, clergymen of parliamentary fractions roamed about Ukraine, were happy about those Polish policies to be able to perceive normal situations in Kyiv.
              _______________________________
              ________________

              The President of Pshekia convened an emergency meeting of the National Security Council. Members of the Council of Ministers, leaders of parliamentary factions thought about how Pshetsky politicians can help normalize the situation in Kiev.

              With such a "normalization" there is no need for a crisis and a crisis. With a probability close to one, it can be argued that the Pshetsk special services and their agents have already begun to normalize.
            14. Arkan
              Arkan 3 December 2013 01: 17
              +3
              Quote: Hudo
              It seems that the information that slipped into ukrnet is that Azarov no longer moo about 160 billion euros, asks at least 10.

              It is unlikely that Azarov needs to prepare a draft budget for next year, which means that first of all it is necessary to resolve the issue with Russia about the price of gas and the volume of supplies (without this, any draft budget does not make sense), I think either Azarov or Yanukovych in the coming days will go to Moscow ...
              Quote: Hudo
              With a probability close to unity, it can be argued that the Pshetsk special services and their agents have already begun to normalize.

              They will look at the situation - either further "shake the Maidan" or cover up the traces. The extraordinary meeting of the Security Council of Poland may indirectly indicate that Poland has taken an excessively active part in the preparation of these events and now fears a possible "response".
            15. stroporez
              stroporez 3 December 2013 08: 28
              +3
              in ... it looks like Ukraine has forgotten how the Poles "normalize" .......
            16. Sandov
              Sandov 5 December 2013 13: 51
              0
              Hugo as Poles then fussed. wassat
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 3 December 2013 08: 24
      +3
      Quote: Akim
      But Yanyk has a small intestine

      Still, the impression is that sho "on the head is weak" - he has an almost open attempt at a coup, and he is about "EQUAL partnership". Who saw the thread as an equal partnership between a ram and a wolf?
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 2 December 2013 23: 19
    +4
    Quote: MG42
    I am against Yanukovych!

    This is your civil law.
    But there are two legal ways to elect another president.
    1. Impeachment declared by parliament and early elections.
    2. The next election.
    And the fact that Maidan is a crime.
    1. MG42
      MG42 2 December 2013 23: 27
      +3
      Are you really from Belarus? How is the special forces operating there is a video? Impeachment according to our laws, who understands a little, is a meaningless and complicated procedure that requires a constitutional majority of votes in the Verkhovna Rada, especially since the next elections of 2015 will be delayed ..
    2. acute
      acute 3 December 2013 15: 10
      +1
      Old Man well done, on time dispersed this pack of Euroid
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 5 December 2013 13: 53
        0
        Quote: akut
        Old Man well done, on time dispersed this pack of Euroid

        I directly envy Belarus, dad respect. Here is a man fighting for his homeland.
  • ekzorsist
    ekzorsist 4 December 2013 20: 11
    -1
    "... Seryozha, what does the USA have to do with Ukraine? ..."
    Sorry in the USA against this shobla of thugs who do not obey the police or other authorities, alas, the most "democratic" measures were applied, including firearms ...
    And here it’s just unlike this gang of skinheads who constantly rush at the police with obvious intentions to cripple, kill, destroy ... all that is just - with a club in a brazen and ugly snout ...
    As it is not adequate and very much like kindergarten, at the level - "... I just threw sand in his face, and he SPITTED at me !!! AAAAA ...!"
    Stop suffering from Debilism.
  • Stanislas
    Stanislas 2 December 2013 21: 05
    11
    Compare
    If someone in Germany or the United States decided to forcefully seize the building of a federal ministry, etc., and not just occupy a piece of the street, then we would see a real massacre.
  • svp67
    svp67 2 December 2013 10: 29
    16
    Long live the most democratic country in the world - the USA. Guys - Ukrainians, do you want to go there? Offers...
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 2 December 2013 11: 38
      13
      Zapodnofily Au. Where are you all scum paid? Where are you rotting the planet? Where are your excuses geerasy ended?
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 2 December 2013 23: 06
        +1
        In the adjacent branch "Tigers are burning"
        Quote: Jedi
        if the Anglo-Americans did not help us, there would be no our country now and there would be nothing to be proud of ...

        I am really surprised at this ..........
      2. Cherdak
        Cherdak 3 December 2013 00: 46
        +2
        Quote: Tatarus
        Where are you rotting the planet?


        The police detained 11 activists who staged a rally in support of Euromaidan near the Ukrainian embassy in Moscow, Russian ex-minister, co-chairman of the RPR-PARNAS political party, member of the Coordination Council of the Russian opposition Boris Nemtsov said on his Facebook.

        In particular, Nemtsov himself was detained, as well as Oleksandr Ryklin, Nadezhda Mityushkina and a number of other activists who held a banner "Ukraine - we are with you!" At the Ukrainian embassy.
        1. Normal
          Normal 3 December 2013 01: 36
          +4
          Quote: Cherdak
          In particular, Nemtsov himself was detained,


          For what???!!! belay
          Man does business! If somewhere it is necessary to compromise and "drain" the protest, then it is impossible to invent a better performer. It is not necessary to detain Nemtsov, but to supply him with money and send him to Kiev in a sealed carriage. In a week, Euromaidan will be chatted and handed over! Borenka knows her hamster business. laughing
          Eh, boots ... You need to think, think, and not just wave your saber.
  • svp67
    svp67 2 December 2013 10: 31
    +3
    "Berkut" does everything quietly, but these are not afraid of ANYTHING
  • domokl
    domokl 2 December 2013 11: 40
    15
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Well, these frames will now be on all channels of the EU and the USA.

    Hi Sash. You don’t have to predict this ... already there. But the West longs for blood ... We need real corpses. And then you can almost openly start supporting provocateurs.
    Well done Golden Eagles, hold on, do not give a reason yet. Now the main thing is to catch provocateurs until Friday. While the students are in class ... They are mostly substituted under batons.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 12: 11
      +9
      Hi Sasha!
      Quote: domokl
      Now the main thing is to catch provocateurs by Friday. While students are going to classes

      At what classes, they all beat them in protest to study.
      1. domokl
        domokl 2 December 2013 19: 24
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        At what classes, they all beat them in protest to study.

        How boring it is to know the history and psychology of man ... After all, everything is clear as God's day ...
        Nobody scored anything ... Everything is according to plan in Ukraine. Studios are studying, workers who are still working are working, scientists are thinking, the rest of the air is being shaken by supposedly clever thoughts ... And most importantly, that’s why Ukraine is still alive and will be live, mothers ride strollers in the parks.
        And in Ukraine, it’s now a five-day period of mopping up morons and searching for masked-asses (they won’t find anyone) .Then there is a serious hitting of the tax and others with it at the opposition, the arrest of the most odious personalities. one and a half.
        And when the people calm down, they will release new people's sufferers and create a stern opposition from their own faces ...
        One word, boredom.
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak 2 December 2013 23: 14
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          it’s boring to know the history and psychology of man ... Everything is according to plan in Ukraine.


          But I trudge from Ukrainian history and fool around
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 5 December 2013 13: 59
            0
            Quote: Cherdak
            Quote: domokl
            it’s boring to know the history and psychology of man ... Everything is according to plan in Ukraine.


            But I trudge from Ukrainian history and fool around


            Really such a brand? I copied myself.
  • Polovec
    Polovec 2 December 2013 14: 00
    13
    This is a big trouble, actually. Surrounded by Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are our most painful underbelly. Will Putin have the courage and determination to take any measures to preserve Ukraine, or at least its eastern part and Crimea in the sphere of our union policy? Moreover, we have something to offer them! more than once it has been written about the possibility of placing a state defense order at Ukrainian enterprises, the implementation of part of the programs in shipbuilding, the replacement by Ukrainian suppliers of agricultural products of Amer, etc. Again, the price of gas and transit flows. and this is not the allocation of some stinky loan to pay off debts on another loan (what the EU has proposed). Now it is clearly visible where friends and where are the enemies. You cannot be a coward in politics! Yanukovych forgot about it. He wanted to bargain with Russia like Lukashenko, but forgot that the Old Man is a fighter and not a thief. And these Western creatures, which themselves do not produce horseradish, will so empty the country that Libya will seem like a paradise. We must not allow this.
    PSKlitschko with his chronic concussion is an excellent candidate for president of Ukraine for European integration. There you can only climb after a knockout ...
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  • Skiff-2
    Skiff-2 2 December 2013 17: 49
    +9
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Well, these frames will now be on all channels of the EU and the USA.

    These shots were preceded by others, where these ki rammed a militia formation with a bulldozer and pelted Berkut with stones. Two policemen were injured by a bulldozer (one hand, the other was crushed by a bucket to the parkan) and about a hundred wounded with stones. The guys were obliged to open fire, but showed restraint ... The recording of events can be viewed on "Russia Today". We walk on the edge, but the authorities need toughness.
    1. Soyuz-TM
      Soyuz-TM 3 December 2013 19: 45
      0
      "and the authorities need toughness."
      Cruelty is not needed, although it is sought by provocateurs. The West needs blood to undermine and dismember Nenko.
  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 2 December 2013 08: 12
    48
    The video speaks and swears in Russian. As the Russian people were and remained. A zapadentsev beat to pig squeal
    1. APES
      APES 2 December 2013 08: 43
      -13 qualifying.
      Quote: Tatarus
      The video speaks and swears in Russian


      So, 3 days ago, the Moscow "ZUBR" was sent
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 09: 15
        13
        Quote: APES
        So, 3 days ago, the Moscow "ZUBR" was sent

        Where in Kiev laughing
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak 2 December 2013 20: 20
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Moscow "ZUBR" was sent



          Nobody made a mistake there?
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  • Anper
    Anper 2 December 2013 11: 53
    15
    І de tse there "in a beastly" ?!
    Little was given to them, cowardly, hellish and venal rubbish like Mustafa Nayem or Savik Shuster, who on Sunday evening "Vkontakte" addressed Ukrainian schoolchildren with calls not to go to school - "none of the teachers will do anything to you" (as they wrote on the wall) , children, go to the Euromaidans!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 2 December 2013 16: 36
      10
      Quote: Anper
      І de tse there "in a beastly" ?!
      Little was given to them, cowardly, hellish and corrupt trash like Mustafa Nayem or Savik Shuster,

      I am simply offended that my (our) colleagues-opponents from Israel have such a "relative".
    2. Anper
      Anper 2 December 2013 18: 10
      +5
      Well, friends - comrades, do? The son calls and says that IT IS POSSIBLE TO WALK LESSONS AT THE ORDER OF THE DIRECTOR - to 10 classes (FROM PERMISSION OF PARENTS), and 11 - AND IT WILL SUCH.
      Here, he says. fun, a small white hunchbacked airplane circling above us, without sound and without a tracer (is that a drone?).
      Already someone commented on a comment about a machine gun against maydauns - I personally caused skepticism. Now it’s not up to skepticism.
    3. Stanislas
      Stanislas 2 December 2013 21: 39
      +5
      children, go to Euromaidan!
      They would bring their children or grandchildren, why call strangers ... Such provocateurs should not be beaten, they should be hung up, as the Nazis hung partisans with a sign on their chests during the war.
  • Marina13
    Marina13 2 December 2013 12: 56
    20
    [media = http: //] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yq-yBIYEp0

    As for me, your special forces worked so loyally. In the EU, so dearly beloved by you, the "protesters" would have gotten a lot more.
  • I am a Russian
    I am a Russian 3 December 2013 08: 04
    -1
    Quote: MG42
    I’ll supplement the journalist who managed to shoot a unique video on the phone as special forces golden eagle right next to the presidential administration <work> how he did it there is in detail


    specialists are working. And "Berkut" is spelled like that.
  • ekzorsist
    ekzorsist 4 December 2013 19: 52
    -1
    What's the problem ?
    Wee wanted to be driven by a chain in the face (even if you were wearing a helmet), poked at the ribs with shtaketin ... and after all this you have to smile? Or singing a story about the greatest shit democracy?
    Actually, in the stronghold of democracy and a true defender of US human rights, because you raised your hand only without the permission of a policeman, let alone God forbid you to move in his direction with a club, and even with a menacing look ... you just they will shoot and any court will recognize the actions of the policeman as LEGAL! It should be so!
    And then they took, so to speak, lukewarm, on the "pocket", that is, in place of this orgy ... so what?
    They didn’t shoot like in the stronghold of the great democracy of the USA.
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 4 December 2013 21: 11
      +2
      Quote: ekzorsist
      Actually, in the stronghold of democracy and a true defender of US human rights


      hi boy go inspect "Playboy" under the covers, since you haven't learned to read.
  • limmor
    limmor 6 December 2013 15: 23
    0
    And how would you behave if you would throw cobblestones at you, beat you with pipes, throw fires and beat with an iron chain ??? Kissed in a hickey?
  • ATATA
    ATATA 2 December 2013 07: 38
    33
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Well, how is Yanukovych sitting there for you, not squeezing anything, not pushing?

    Watching the events of yesterday and night in Kiev, it becomes very clear that the current government in Ukraine will end, like Gorbachev. And it will be soon.
    The authorities have complete impotence of will.
    The head of the Kiev police, who gave the order to disperse the maydaun, resigned. Those. security officials who give real orders to restore order are simply beaten on the hands.
    Who is behind these manipulations is very well understood. The headquarters of the revolution is located in the US Embassy.
    Who will subscribe for this power tomorrow, when they really will?
    Golden eagle stands against the front-end loader even without shields!
    ps I think Ukraine should join the EU.
    Since such severe and massive psychoses can only be cured by shock therapy.
    Well, at least Russia will no longer be to blame.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 07: 45
      40
      Quote: ATATA
      The head of the Kiev police, who gave the order to disperse the maydaun, resigned. Those. security officials who give real orders just beat their hands off

      No, I don’t think that the police chief himself gave the order. Rather, he executed it, and then, as the EU and the US opened their mouths, those who gave the order themselves condemned the actions of the golden eagle. This is a simple betrayal of those who Yesterday I saw how they threw stones at the cops, they poor fellows obeyed the order - do not touch them. Then, four hours later, they started to disperse the trash. They were ordinary political prostitution, they first betrayed voters in the EU, now they’re their own cops, then they will betray each other. And the funny thing everything that is happening now, Yanukovych himself muddied by announcing a course on the EU.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 2 December 2013 07: 49
        21
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is a simple betrayal of those who protect them.

        Absolutely.
        And when power betrays its defenders, it ends badly.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 02
          12
          Quote: ATATA
          And when power betrays its defenders, it ends badly.

          And rightly so, Yanukovych! It was necessary to think with your head, and not lick ass in the EU.
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 2 December 2013 08: 22
            24
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And rightly so, Yanukovych! It was necessary to think with your head, and not lick ass in the EU.

            Yes, so it is ..
            Yesterday I talked with my relatives near Odessa.
            They are all Russian. A year ago, everyone was for Russia.
            Yesterday they said we are all for the EU !!!
            Do you understand what is going on in the media, how do I rinse people's heads ?!
            This is just massive psychosis! It cannot be called otherwise.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 46
              19
              Quote: ATATA
              Do you understand what is going on in the media, how do I rinse people's heads ?!
              This is just massive psychosis!

              So Yanukovych threw all the media into advertising associations with the EU, therefore it is not surprising. Now he himself has given the back one and here is the result.
              In short, the country has three options.
              1. Yanukovych gives the command to the fas, transplant the entire opposition and falling into world isolation, joins the TS. (Science fiction)
              2. He is overthrown and the country is quiet and quiet, slamming into the EU, and Yanukovych to sit in Tymoshenko’s place.
              3. The country is falling apart.
              The third option is more real.
              1. Odysseus
                Odysseus 2 December 2013 09: 36
                14
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                1. Yanukovych gives the command to the fas, transplant the entire opposition and falling into world isolation, joins the TS. (Science fiction)
                2. He is overthrown and the country is quiet and quiet, slamming into the EU, and Yanukovych to sit in Tymoshenko’s place.
                3. The country is falling apart.
                Third option, more real

                Unfortunately, the second is more real.
                And even more real, he backs off, signs an association agreement with the EU on the most enslaving terms, guaranteed by personal integrity, and leaves through early elections.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 09: 54
                  +4
                  Quote: Odyssey
                  Unfortunately, the second is more real.

                  Provided that the economy of Ukraine will flourish, and factories in the east of the country will not be closed. Is it realistic, with the second option?
                  1. Odysseus
                    Odysseus 2 December 2013 10: 09
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Provided that the economy of Ukraine will flourish, and factories in the east of the country will not be closed. Is it realistic, with the second option?

                    No, the economy of Ukraine will face a catastrophe. But for the collapse of the country, there are not enough economic reasons, for this we need the political will of the people and / or the leadership of the state formalized organizationally. I don’t see such forces in Ukraine. Maybe I don’t see yet.
                  2. APES
                    APES 2 December 2013 11: 11
                    10
                    Quote: Odyssey
                    , for this we need the political will of the people and / or the leadership of the state formalized organizationally. I do not see such forces in Ukraine. Maybe I do not see it yet.


                    Near the bus station in Dnepropetrovsk, three young athletic men beat four Euromaidan participants who were heading to Kiev.

                    I read the news of Ukraine - there are dozens of such news, what is this if not an organized force?
                  3. Odysseus
                    Odysseus 2 December 2013 12: 18
                    +4
                    Quote: APES
                    I read the news of Ukraine - there are dozens of such news, what is this if not an organized force?

                    This is not an organized force; these are individual bursts of people's discontent.
                    Organized power is promoted politicians, political parties, the media, public organizations interconnected into a single network.
                    There are pro-European forces in Ukraine, alas, no pro-Russian forces.
                  4. polly
                    polly 2 December 2013 13: 04
                    +6
                    This is Kovpak’s squad ... good
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                3. vlad1
                  vlad1 2 December 2013 15: 44
                  +4
                  that’s right, as Vysotsky sang, we didn’t make a scandal to us the leader didn’t get right now there is no man in Ukraine who people in the east would follow
                4. ATATA
                  ATATA 2 December 2013 16: 49
                  +3
                  Quote: vlad1
                  that’s right, as Vysotsky sang, we didn’t make a scandal to us the leader didn’t get right now there is no man in Ukraine who people in the east would follow

                  Oh!
                  This is an important point. Eastern Ukraine needs a real politician.
                  Putin, no? ...
                5. Ptah
                  Ptah 2 December 2013 17: 19
                  -3
                  Quote: ATATA
                  Putin, no? ...

                  Nah ...
                  Leave it to yourself. Tomorrow there will be someone to ask for "today and yesterday." Just tie it tightly to the presidential chair, or it will tick like his predecessors for the Nobel Prize.
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                7. Arkan
                  Arkan 2 December 2013 17: 34
                  +7
                  [quote = ATATA] This is an important point. Eastern Ukraine needs a real politician.
                  Putin, no? ...
                  Look at me - it’s good! good laughing
                8. alex13-61
                  alex13-61 4 December 2013 19: 59
                  +1
                  Oh!
                  This is an important point. Eastern Ukraine needs a real politician.
                  Putin, no? ... [/ quote]
                  And what was who in Ukraine was better than Putin ???
      2. 222222
        222222 2 December 2013 11: 28
        +9
        Alexander Romanov (1) RU Today, 08: 46 ↑
        "So Yanukovych threw all the media on advertising association with the EU"
        All central media in Ukraine, as well as in Russia, are owned by oligarchs. And they pay extra by the West. The programs are usually anti-Russian. The mass media are hired by the West, former employees of RS "Svoboda" Shustirization of the country has been in full swing for several years ... You need to explain who the employees of RS "Svoboda" are. Information space, both in Ukraine and in Russia, has been given into the wrong hands.
        The most dangerous option for Ukraine is the arrival of the fascist forces and the oligarchs supporting them on a wave of dissatisfaction with the authorities. The Angosaxons have already done this scenario once in history. ..Now, as the "classic" said, "May-shho may"
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak 2 December 2013 20: 26
          +3
          Quote: 222222
          "So Yanukovych threw all the media on advertising association with the EU"
      3. Patton5
        Patton5 2 December 2013 18: 30
        +1
        I agree! It is real only if in Moscow someone has some soft soft testicles !!!
      4. cdrt
        cdrt 2 December 2013 19: 39
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        3. The country is falling apart.
        The third option is more real.


        The third option is not so much more real as ideal for Russia.
        But for some reason I seriously doubt its realism.
        Ukrainians are not the people to lose something of their own (in this case, their large country)
        1. I am a Russian
          I am a Russian 3 December 2013 08: 12
          0
          Quote: cdrt
          Ukrainians are not the people to lose something of their own


          after the 20th independence and recent events sounds ridiculous.
      5. atalef
        atalef 2 December 2013 21: 31
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        . He is overthrown and the country is quietly and without too much noise, slamming into the EU, and Yanukovych to sit in the place of Tymoshenko.


        Hey . Sanya, I think he just now will pretend that he is integrating with the EU, and when everything calms down, he will again try to turn around in the Customs Union.
        Although in any case, as on a political figure, you can put an end to it.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 2 December 2013 21: 37
          +5
          Quote: atalef
          Although in any case, as on a political figure, you can put an end to it.

          Let even a vampire, even a devil, even a sorcerer, but only save the country from collapse and restore order in Kiev, restrain Svidomo.
          1. atalef
            atalef 2 December 2013 21: 55
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Quote: atalef
            Although in any case, as on a political figure, you can put an end to it.

            Let even a vampire, even a devil, even a sorcerer, but only save the country from collapse and restore order in Kiev, restrain Svidomo.

            With or without him, Ukraine will not fall apart. This is not worth worrying about. But what will be better is interesting. He will no longer be able to suppress by force. not by force --- this is a direct path to the EU. --- as expected
            Actually, I don’t understand why Russia is pushing Ukraine so aggressively --- they will ask for such a price - you won’t pull it and it won’t hurt to run away whenever they want - and they want to - Yanukovych is not eternal - and he, in general not worth much.
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 2 December 2013 22: 10
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Actually, I don’t understand why Russia is pushing Ukraine so aggressively --- they will ask for such a price - you won’t pull it and it won’t hurt to run away whenever they want - and they want to - Yanukovych is not eternal - and he, in general not worth much.

            The answer is simple - you want to have an ADEQUATE NEIGHBOR, without any regular Maidans, where they regularly "see" either the "hand of Moscow" or "knights at the crossroads."
          3. atalef
            atalef 3 December 2013 09: 07
            -1
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            The answer is simple - you want to have an ADEQUATE NEIGHBOR, without any regular Maidans, where they regularly "see" either the "hand of Moscow" or "knights at the crossroads."


            And why did you decide that if he is in the TS, then he will immediately become adequate and will pursue a pro-Putin policy. TS - both entered and exited, and this is trade, not a union republic. By the way, what hinders Russia from the inadequate Baltic states, and now Georgia and Moldova - who have left the EU? nothing - if desired, Russia would crush them with a finger. Therefore, it is not clear since joining the vehicle in no way protects Ukraine from the following Maidan.
          4. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 3 December 2013 14: 59
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            And why did you decide that if he is in the vehicle, then he will immediately become adequate

            It is not for me to explain to you how one lives in the neighborhood with inadequate neighbors. In Russia, there are enough of its inadequate regions.
            But I will not say that I do not care about the choice of Ukraine. Russia will have to disentangle the EU's path of Ukraine. Only in the appendage to economic problems will political ones be added.
            Any Maidan can and should be suppressed by the authorities.
          5. atalef
            atalef 3 December 2013 15: 15
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            It is not for me to explain to you how one lives in the neighborhood with inadequate neighbors. In Russia and its inadequate regions there is enough

            I think the comparison with Israel is not entirely correct, I don’t think that when Ukraine joins the EU, it will lead terror towards Russia, but about adequacy, Ukraine is inadequate now or will it become an EU member, I somehow did not quite understand
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Russia will have to disentangle the EU's path of Ukraine.

            Why
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Only in addition to economic problems will political ones be added

            Russia does not dissolve the problems of the Baltic states, Moldova or Georgia (more precisely, it only adds) why will it dissolve Ukraine? Is it dissolving now? No . I would even say that it is not a small piece of its economic problems - because of Russia (at least gas. Which is more expensive than in Germany) - so why will it dissolve after they are supposed to dissolve the EU?
      6. Sandov
        Sandov 6 December 2013 16: 52
        0
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The answer is simple - you want to have an ADEQUATE NEIGHBOR, without any regular Maidans, where they regularly "see" either the "hand of Moscow" or "knights at the crossroads."

        Little Russia and should not execute the project of the West. Little Russia and Great Russia will return former strength and glory. Do liberals need it? So they will derbanich Rus.
  • Sirozha
    Sirozha 2 December 2013 10: 18
    -10 qualifying.
    Do you know how your heads are washed by the media? I then see everything myself, since everything happens nearby. And you see everything from your zombies. I often watch news on Russian channels - you would know how you are fed about us with lies !!! twist everything exactly the opposite!
    1. IS-80
      IS-80 2 December 2013 10: 40
      10
      Quote: Sirozha
      Do you know how your heads are washed by the media? I then see everything myself, since everything happens nearby. And you see everything from your zombies. I often watch news on Russian channels - you would know how you are fed about us with lies !!! twist everything exactly the opposite!


      And you, as I understand it, streams of truth are pouring from the TV? We still know about our television.
      1. In the book
        In the book 2 December 2013 11: 12
        +2
        Quote: IS-80
        And you, as I understand it, streams of truth are pouring from the TV? We still know about our television.

        No, our TV also does not shine with reason. After the massacre at night from Friday to Saturday, all the central channels of the country were silent, showing series about cops, special forces, shows and all kinds of garbage. But about what was happening in the capital, they were silent, only in the evening they began to broadcast something. Only thanks to the acquaintances of Kiev knew what was happening there.
        1. IS-80
          IS-80 2 December 2013 11: 17
          +1
          Quote: Libr
          No, our TV also does not shine with reason.


          And I didn’t say that. Where did you see this?
        2. In the book
          In the book 2 December 2013 11: 56
          +1
          What are you talking about, dear?
          I quoted you and answered that it is not clear in my comment?
        3. IS-80
          IS-80 2 December 2013 12: 12
          +2
          Quote: Libr
          What are you talking about, dear?
          I quoted you and answered that it is not clear in my comment?


          Yes, it looks like it's time for me to see the optometrist. Instead of "our" I read "your". smile I'm sorry. recourse
        4. In the book
          In the book 2 December 2013 12: 37
          +2
          smile it’s okay
  • Anper
    Anper 2 December 2013 12: 54
    13
    After the massacre at night from Friday to Saturday, all the central channels of the country were silent,
    Well, at least kill me, I don’t understand! Just two rational people are talking about brainwashing using TV, but now one of them, as the ultimate truth, accepts the version of the same TV - carnage, massacre, etc.
    Where is the massacre? Inverted shots taken with a trembling hand (by the way, this method was also proposed by Goebbels - so the authenticity of what is happening is accepted by the viewer unconditionally), people climbing on special forces and special forces driving them away.
    A scream, scream! Women were beaten, children! They run around the hospitals, take off - there are healthy foreheads with a muzzle that does not fit in the frame, a couple of wounds (bandaged!) Are shown. Ah, I have a leg fracture with a displacement, but I received help only in the morning, gave testimonies, sat in a monkey - but you would not have been able to do anything with a fracture with a displacement. Or such a fracture!
    Provocative abomination, the starting point for unrest. It didn’t turn out right away, by the way - they wanted to arrange an online performance at the bastard Schuster, but something did not grow together.
    RIGHTS, OX, RIGHTS AUTHOR OF THE ARTICLE - LONG TIME IT IS POSSIBLE TO DECEPE WHO WHO ARE DECEIVED FOR YOURSELF.
  • In the book
    In the book 2 December 2013 13: 08
    -5
    Quote: Anper
    Where is the massacre?

    The sighted one may see.
    And about Goebbels better tell your Dmitry Kiselev.
    By the way, I want to note that the massacre near the Presidential Administration was provoked, and the opposition has nothing to do with it. Who staged the massacre, or radicals like Korchinsky, or the "titushki" of the authorities, it is still worth finding out.
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 December 2013 13: 58
    12
    That is, the loader was driving from the police for peaceful regime deputies? My eyes have opened!
    1. In the book
      In the book 2 December 2013 14: 30
      0
      "Cleansing" on the night from Friday to Saturday.
      As for the loader. If you looked carefully, it was obvious that this loader did not appear there by accident, I regard this as a provocation of the radicals who decided to use peaceful a rally
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 2 December 2013 18: 20
        +7
        Far from being a random loader. "Fake" with the song "Victory Day". The contour of "European integration" is becoming clearer and clearer. If you want to see what kind of person - give him power. Do you want to understand what kind of European integrator - bring the loader to him, or just give him a microphone - he will cut with a bucket and sing what the soul tells. I mean - little soul ...
  • Liss.
    Liss. 2 December 2013 17: 58
    +7
    I will tell you one thing.
    After registering on the site of "Ukrainian Truth" I stayed until banned for 20 minutes.
    Banned when he asked: "Which shops are passing by peaceful demonstration?"
    You, here, even on a far from central site, the Admin does not interfere.
    So the mouth about the zombies is on the lock.
    Cowardly agitators of the Maidan, as wrong!
    1. Angry reader
      Angry reader 2 December 2013 21: 44
      +2
      This is them so as not to offend the feelings of European integrators) You are for them ... demonic devotion))
    2. Cherdak
      Cherdak 2 December 2013 22: 48
      +1
      Quote: Liss.
      "Which shops are passing by the peaceful demonstration?"



      T-shirts sale?
  • In the book
    In the book 2 December 2013 11: 09
    0
    Quote: ATATA
    Do you understand what is going on in the media, how do I rinse people's heads ?!
    This is just massive psychosis! It cannot be called otherwise.

    And you understand how your media is washing your head. Yesterday I watched Dmitry Kiselev "analyze" the situation in our country. Nonsense of a gray mare, you cannot name it otherwise, and you listen and watch. Everything is upside down, the facts are distorted. Lies for lies. Yes, and I listened to your Markov on our channel, I am also a strategist.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 2 December 2013 17: 05
      +8
      Quote: Libr
      And you understand how your media is washing your head. Yesterday I watched Dmitry Kiselev "analyze" the situation in our country. Nonsense of a gray mare, you cannot name it otherwise, and you listen and watch. Everything is upside down, the facts are distorted. Lies for lies. Yes, and I listened to your Markov on our channel, I am also a strategist.

      For your information!
      Kisilev on Russian channels is not visible from the 1999 year.
      In Russia, a vaccine against shit democracy (this is the power of democrats (not to be confused with the power of the people)) took root in the late 90s, and you do not have immunity, vaccination through poverty does not work.
      In Russia, a consistent and responsible government policy.
      It is expressed in the difference in living standards.
      All this type of brethren: Kisilev, Schuster, Dorenko and others, others, others, safely moved to you.
      Well, you have set your ears ... Get HAPPINESS ...
      Think for yourself, in the USSR they taught to think independently.
      Where was Ukraine, where will it be?
      Think for yourself.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 2 December 2013 17: 16
        +3
        Another Kiselev, with RTR.
      2. In the book
        In the book 2 December 2013 17: 16
        +3
        Quote: ATATA
        Kisilev on Russian channels is not visible from the 1999 year.

        Dmitry Kiselev in the program "Vesti Nedeli" dated 01.12.2013
        http://dochronika.ru/load/novosti/vesti_nedeli_s_dmitriem_kiselevym_01_12_2013/3
        -1-0-1230
        either here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV9lx98dN9U
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 2 December 2013 17: 23
          +1
          This person, here has long been considered a marginal person.
          Have you read carefully?
      3. Ptah
        Ptah 2 December 2013 17: 24
        +5
        Quote: ATATA
        For your information!
        Kisilev on Russian channels is not visible from the 1999 year.

        You mean "mustachioed entaveshny".
        We are talking about Dmitry Kiselev. For a long time he has been conducting survey programs on "Russia" on Sundays. Prior to that (last year), for some time he was a participant in the program "Historical Process", where he poked his muzzle at * Sionizu.
        I like his manner of presenting information.
        Check it out on the Russia 1 channel website.
    2. Angry reader
      Angry reader 3 December 2013 02: 30
      0
      Libr, it's more like "and you have blacks lynched" ...) It's funny, by God.
      Regarding the media, you have an infa walk .. that’s why they moved to Kiev by railway ... tanks) soldier laughing
      1. In the book
        In the book 3 December 2013 10: 17
        0
        Quote: Angry Reader
        Libr, it's more like "and you have blacks lynched"

        Why is this said?
        Quote: Angry Reader
        you walk infa ..ctly to Kiev moved along the railway ... tanks)

        Yes, there was such a plot, the video shot on the phone, the tanks went on railway platforms. I doubt that the military is involved, and especially tanks in Kiev? This is nonsense.
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 2 December 2013 20: 23
    +3
    Quote: ATATA
    Yesterday they said we are all for the EU !!!


    Moreover, such trash shines!
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 2 December 2013 08: 47
    20
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And rightly so, Yanukovych! I had to think with my headnot asses in the EU lick

    Quote: ATATA
    Yes, so it is ..
    Yesterday I talked with my relatives near Odessa.
    They are all Russian. A year ago, everyone was for Russia.
    Yesterday they said we are all for the EU !!!
    Do you understand what is going on in the media, how do I rinse people's heads ?!
    This is just massive psychosis!
    It cannot be called otherwise.

    Yesterday, Yanukovych’s demands on the EU slipped by like a glimpse. Besides money he wanted the EU to get gas only (!!!) through Ukraine. So, not everything is as simple as it is presented to us. I think that the events in Kiev show not so much a desire for the EU as a protest against Yanukovych. But who is in charge of the protest? "According to the police, 300 radical members of the Brotherhood organization, which, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, were headed by Dmitry Korchinsky, were involved in the clashes near the building of the presidential administration of Ukraine." This is the same Korchinsky who fought against our people in Chechnya.
    "Democracy" in Ukrainian has long been synonymous with permissiveness. Imagine a bulldozer against our riot police. Or the takeover of a government office. Here the authorities are simply obliged to behave toughly.
    I believe that a second "Orange Revolution" is underway in Ukraine. After all, the past ended well for the "orange"
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 2 December 2013 08: 56
      20
      This is the very Korchinsky who fought in Chechnya against ours.
      And those same "brothers" who fought in Chechnya against ours. And now they are fighting against ours in Ukraine.
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 2 December 2013 11: 29
        18
        here he is "brother" .... he and others like him are washing the heads of young people, and these groups constitute the main striking force ... ... the common people are not there
        1. Angry reader
          Angry reader 4 December 2013 19: 08
          0
          Isn't that Sasha Bilyk?
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 09: 18
      +8
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      requirements of Yanukovych to the EU. In addition to money, he wanted the EU to receive gas only (!!!) through Ukraine.

      If this is true, then he grunted his whole head.
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      Imagine a bulldozer against our riot police. Or seizing a government agency. This is where the authorities simply have to act tough.

      If the authorities do not look back at the EU and the USA, then yes. And so this is not power, but a chaos of anarchy.
    3. slvevg
      slvevg 2 December 2013 10: 55
      19
      .I think that the events in Kiev show not so much a desire in the EU as a protest against Yanukovych

      Exactly. Personally, I do not want to go to the EU, I lived there and I know how it is on my own skin ... but the fact that HAM got it for sure. A lot of people came out specifically against Yanukovych, because we do not need a feudal state. I just want to live without corruption, majors, gopniks, protectors, etc. Having money for a private business, I cannot start it, because while you sweeten all the authorities, there will not be enough - "for the roof" !!! I'm tired of it.
      The terrible thing is that there are already the first stuffing in the media about the granting of the right to freely use small arms in Ukraine, this is guys, it will be a disaster. I think for most of this site it’s clear where the legs grow from and what it will lead to. And the deputy Tsarev warned that there is convincing evidence of the training of specialists in revolutions at the US Embassy. But over him in the internet neighing and released to be treated by Putin. HOW THE PEOPLE WAS POLITICALLY DESTROYED UNDER THE UNION, SUCH AND REMAINED! And this despite the abundance of information, read, analyze!
      1. igor67
        igor67 2 December 2013 11: 51
        16
        At the expense of Hama, I called my relatives to Ukraine yesterday to find out how it was, and my own uncle, with tears and indignation, already shouting, I will find a machine gun and go to Kiev, Yanyka and shoot a bunch of him, Why? My relatives are not Bendera’s normal Ukrainians and grandfather and grandmother fought, but they plow 12 hours for one and a half thousand hryvnias, and here the last straw the day before yesterday the matchmaker had cancer in his throat in Sumy said an urgent operation, two green pieces were collected, they had an operation, returned home bleeding started, they went to the oncologist who demanded a thousand hryvnias, they gave the answer: but the operation was useless nothing will help, yesterday the matchmaker died, 500 hryvnias left to bury, this is less than a hundred dollars, and this is only a small episode of a small family, but generally country? There, the majority of people brought by Ham, naturally, they will be used by corrupt politicians, but what to change in Ukraine, the system must already SCREAM
        1. Corneli
          Corneli 2 December 2013 12: 40
          14
          Quote: igor67
          ... it's less than a hundred dollars, and this is only a small episode of a small family, but in the whole country? There, the majority of people brought by Ham, naturally, they will be used by corrupt politicians, but what to change in Ukraine, the system must already SCREAM

          I like this approach. Like, with Yushcha and Yulia until 2010, everything was wonderful, but Yanyk came and oops.
          The "brought" people have forgotten, like KM Azarov, when they took over in 2010, they promised a couple of months, and then they would hang all the dogs on them. So the money in the budget after the orange was ZERO and the situation was no better than right now.
          1. igor67
            igor67 2 December 2013 13: 21
            +3
            Quote: Corneli
            Quote: igor67
            ... it's less than a hundred dollars, and this is only a small episode of a small family, but in the whole country? There, the majority of people brought by Ham, naturally, they will be used by corrupt politicians, but what to change in Ukraine, the system must already SCREAM

            I like this approach. Like, with Yushcha and Yulia until 2010, everything was wonderful, but Yanyk came and oops.
            The "brought" people have forgotten, like KM Azarov, when they took over in 2010, they promised a couple of months, and then they would hang all the dogs on them. So the money in the budget after the orange was ZERO and the situation was no better than right now.

            Under Yushchenko (even though he destroyed the Bank of Ukraine) it was still better; I left in 2000, Kuchma, and I remember very well these days the wages are miserable, the child allowance is 22 hryvnias per month, there is no need to even say bandits, Yushchenko began in my opinion everyone felt the difference, when they arrived in Ukraine in 2004 they didn’t recognize anymore, the bandits were beaten out, those who survived fled to Russia, people, I talk about hard workers, they took loans for household appliances, cars, apartment renovations, (I’m silent about Julia, this mongrel should sit at any scenario) roads, but also excesses with Bendera, came Yanukovych so what? I was in 2011, full of ... oops, the roads are broken, there is nothing to pay loans, and the bandits returned, I saw the guys were really in tracksuits and nine, not like before on behah, but now 2013 and everything has changed, and raider grabs of enterprises? I couldn’t go to the rembase where I worked 15, the guys ran out in camouflage with batons, then they explained that this was protection from the raiders, at lunchtime and at the end of work they line up in a chain afraid of capture. What about medecine?
          2. Corneli
            Corneli 2 December 2013 14: 37
            +9
            Quote: igor67
            Under Yushchenko (even though he destroyed the Bank of Ukraine) it was still better,

            Okay ... I didn’t leave anywhere ... I’ll try to explain to you ...
            Quote: igor67
            Yushchenko became in my opinion everyone felt the difference, who arrived in Ukraine in 2004 he didn’t recognize anymore, they beat out the bandits, who survived fled to Russia

            That's just from what you wrote Yusch did NOTHING! This was done by such an unloving Kuchma. The difference between 2003 (Kuchma) and 2004 (Yushch.) Was only in the fact that Ukraine was collecting debts, and "re-privatization" began. Pensions, salary, law and order and so on are the same as in the last years of Kuchma's rule.
            Quote: igor67
            people, talking about hard workers, they took loans for household appliances, cars, apartment renovations, roads,

            Well, yes ... win Yanyk this would not have happened) Credit boom, if you are not aware of these years all over the world was and Yusch has nothing to do with it. And this "golden period" ended in 2008 (Yusch and Yulia were driving for another 2 years) with a crisis. Many of the "people" had to firmly suck their paws and think about how to give away the creedit (especially against the background of massive reductions), I remind you ... all this with the same Yushcha ...
            Quote: igor67
            Was in 2011, complete ... oops, roads are broken, there is no work, there is nothing to pay loans,

            We read above ... this is from 2008, Yanyk is out of business here.
            And now about the bandits. Re-privatization and raiding under Yulenka blossomed in a magnificent color, if you did not see this, this does not mean that this did not happen. Uncles from pro-vladny parties bought everything that was only possible and that was not possible, too, by any means. There are a couple of friends of lawyers who worked for such uncles ... it happened there - they will pull out fish soup. But what is the BIG difference between the Orange rule and the Ku-Yanuk one is the actions of the police. Under Yushcha, the Interior Ministry just went crazy. If before that the Ministry of Internal Affairs "covered" or took bribes, observing at least some decency and trying not to quarrel with their colleagues, then since 2005 chaos has raged. The main business of the police was to snatch as much as possible from anywhere! PPP is running around the supermarket, as its owner does not dance for the "roof" to the head of the Peps! How do you like it? Most of the small commerce, in addition to the rat, scored on business because of the mad police, extortions were for everyone and everything and exceeded the profit. By the way, right now, the Ministry of Internal Affairs for some reason does not behave this way (again) it's too late to drink Borjomi ...
            The notorious bandits got out again because of the crisis, there is no work what to do youth? Yes, and recidivists planted under Kuchma, the terms were served, had to be planted back.
            Something like this in general ...
          3. igor67
            igor67 2 December 2013 15: 14
            +2
            [quote = Corneli] [quote = igor67] Under Yushchenko (although he ruined the bank of Ukraine) it was still better, [/ quote]
            Okay ... I didn’t leave anywhere ... I’ll try to explain to you ...
            My friend doesn’t need about Kuchma, please I was at PSPU and was a member of the election commissions and was in the presidential election, I saw everything that his guys did and how bandyuki were on duty with weapons and especially in villages,
            What he did during his time, I worked as a simple worker, the salary was 70-100 hryvnias, only when export orders went only at the expense of salary premiums. It became 1000 gr, the wife worked in surgery as a nurse and for the fact that she worked for 14 years, she received 22 g of that. All that was needed was a can of milk and you say Kuchma did something
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          5. Corneli
            Corneli 2 December 2013 15: 32
            +3
            Quote: igor67
            What he did during his time, I worked as a simple worker, the salary was 70-100 hryvnias, only when export orders went only at the expense of salary premiums. It became 1000 gr, the wife worked in surgery as a nurse and for the fact that she worked for 14 years, she received 22 g of that. All that was needed was a can of milk and you say Kuchma did something

            You tell me about the 90s, and I tell you about 2000. I repeat once again the differences in incomes, salaries, pensions, the state of the country as a whole and other things between the summer of 2003 and the summer of 2004, you would not have personally seen (except that the external debt under Yushche has grown). Maybe, of course, it was not Kuchma who did this, but Yushchenko by the power of thought. But this is a FACT!
          6. Patton5
            Patton5 2 December 2013 18: 40
            +4
            I am smiling at you! Compare, from two heaps of go **** which stinks more))))))))))))
  • CTEPX
    CTEPX 2 December 2013 14: 34
    +4
    Quote: slvevg
    There is convincing evidence of the training of specialists in revolutions at the US Embassy.

    Do not forget that if the central government in Ukraine is destabilized, it will immediately flare up in Crimea. The Islamists have everything there. It is possible that the "maydanutye" are working exactly for this.
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  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 2 December 2013 08: 48
    12
    Yes, Yanyk went far, in general he just wants to be cunning, but you need to be smart. They didn’t even study the documents on joining the geyropu in a timely manner, what it threatens them with, then you see, before signing the documents, he met with the factory management and only then he realized that it was a priest. It just did not work when it was necessary, but it seems to me more Hopes on Azarov than on herself.
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 2 December 2013 09: 00
      +8
      he just wants to be tricky, and you need to be smart.
      With his stupidity and cunning, to be unrealistic, and even smart ... This is already mutually exclusive.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 2 December 2013 09: 27
        +7
        But in Ukraine, in general, there is really someone who could restore order without geyrops and Russia, before that everything seems to me to be treated by Western European values, which is useless. You need a real pro-Putin person, there is no way out, the rest will squeeze Ukraine and surrender to the fagots a truly Orthodox state.
        1. Old_kapitan
          Old_kapitan 2 December 2013 09: 55
          +4
          ZU-23, I completely agree with you, but the trouble is - there isn’t such a thing. One hope was for Yanyka - though stupid as a tree, she seems to understand where he benefits. That is, the benefit of the country was no longer discussed, although there would have been less harm.
        2. I am a Russian
          I am a Russian 3 December 2013 08: 23
          +2
          Quote: ZU-23
          But in Ukraine, in general, there really is one who could restore order without geyrops and Russia


          maybe there is. But no one wants to tighten the belt tighter. Freestuff has done its job and here is the result - a huge desire from the Ukrainians to get everything at once.
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      3. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 2 December 2013 14: 12
        +5
        Just real. The trick is not the mind at all. Really did not collide - one dumb but crafty sly man inflates a horde of wise men? But it happens all the time.
        That's just a trick instead of the mind has one property. The cunning man believes that the trick is endless. But this mind, even the erring one, is infinite. And the tricks are given a tiny time - until it becomes obvious to those who have been circled around the finger. AND SUDDENLY! The trick stops working at all. The trickster used the limit of trust, and his only tool refused, once and for all. But he cannot understand this, there is no mind! And he rushes about, tries all his own, so be sure effective methods ...
        Sound familiar? smile
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 2 December 2013 22: 23
          +1
          But this mind, even the erring one, is infinite
          The mind is always aware of its boundaries, only stupidity is limitless. smile
      4. Cherdak
        Cherdak 2 December 2013 22: 54
        +1
        Quote: Old_Kapitan
        With his stupidity and cunning, to be unrealistic, and even smart ... This is already mutually exclusive.


        Whichever one is chosen, one will have to torment with that until 2015. But it’s all better than the Rabbit-Eurogolic.
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    1. IS-80
      IS-80 2 December 2013 10: 37
      18
      Quote: Sirozha
      Judging by the comments on this site, there’s nothing good for joining you, except to be a raw materials appendage and turn into Malorosiya!


      You obviously rave. What raw materials appendage? What is this in Ukraine that is not in the Russian Federation? Maybe you sell us oil and gas? When was Ukraine a part of Russia a colony? And Little Russia you are. Without any negative associations.
      1. builder
        builder 2 December 2013 19: 14
        10
        It was said in 1980-1990 that the Russians would not live without lard and sugar. As a result, sugar production in Ukraine collapsed from 5 million tons in Soviet times to about 1,5 million tons, and continues to decline.
        Now they say that we will not survive Ukrainian missiles, sweets, aircraft engines As a result .... fool
    2. Fin
      Fin 2 December 2013 10: 55
      12
      Quote: Sirozha
      Why can't we just be partners in the neighborhood and coexist normally? !! Leave your imperial manners, let's cooperate!

      Everything is very simple. You have nothing to cooperate with. There is no money in the country, the last loans from the Russian Federation have already been eaten up, they have already given upfront transit, they also ate it. There will be nothing to pay pensions tomorrow. Who do you think a girl dances when she has no money? There was a choice for whom to sell more expensive. No offense, but this is reality and not see it ....
    3. andranick
      andranick 2 December 2013 11: 00
      11
      Quote: Sirozha
      and turn into Malorosiya!

      Quote: Sirozha
      we don't need to be Maloros at all

      Dear Siriozha! You don't understand the meaning of the word Malorosiya at all. "Little" does not mean "insignificant", not "subordinate", but "that small part of the land originally belonging to the dews." The meaning is the same as in the phrase "small homeland". Great Russia, on the other hand, is an area added to Little Russia by expansion (voluntary or not) of neighboring territories. Here "great" does not mean greatness, but size.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 2 December 2013 22: 36
        +6
        There are Ukrainians who hate Russia so much that they are ready to gladly sell the Russian birthright for a gay-European lentil stew
        1. I am a Russian
          I am a Russian 3 December 2013 08: 27
          +1
          Quote: Stanislav
          There are Ukrainians who hate Russia so much that they are ready to gladly sell the Russian birthright for a gay-European lentil stew


          + yes there are plenty of them.
    4. fzr1000
      fzr1000 2 December 2013 11: 06
      10
      Crawl ass EU, tell us about the difference.
    5. I do not care
      I do not care 2 December 2013 11: 38
      -1
      as part of Raska !!!
      Yes, you sir Hamjal minus one.
    6. Simon
      Simon 2 December 2013 12: 10
      +8
      ABOUT! Buddy Bought opposition by amers and geyropoi, pulling you nowhere. They are already planning the closure of many enterprises in Ukraine, the seizure of land under shale gas, which will poison the entire fertile layer of your land. Foreign companies are already conducting test drilling and shale gas production and want to pull the pipeline to Europe. Yanukovych understood it all, that the EU is preparing a slow death for your Ukraine. There will be no enterprises, there will be no tax, and there will be no pensions for pensioners. The EU does not promise you any currency, there will be nothing to build and restore because they themselves have no money. Putin offers Yanukovych real things to restore the Ukrainian economy and get out of debt, after which Ukraine will get on its feet. Russia is interested in this, since we have a lot in common, many related enterprises that really work with Russia, and if Ukraine joins the customs union, there will be even more such enterprises.
  • MG42
    MG42 2 December 2013 08: 21
    12
    Quote: ATATA
    The head of the Kiev police, who gave the order to disperse the maydaun, resigned

    He did not give the order to disperse the Maidan, the more so the Crimean and Lugansk golden eagles worked there, and the Minister of Internal Affairs Zakharchenko, they simply made him a switchman.
    Quote: ATATA
    Golden eagle stands against the front-end loader even without shields!

    That is not a golden eagle stood in the forefront and BB
    The golden eagle stood behind the buses and went straight to the attack, driving along the narrow Bankova street. He was attacked by members of the party <<< Brotherhood >> 300 people partially supported some of the freedom + 2 MPs, the leaders of the opposition generally disowned them. From the outside it looked like a show <tractor> was driving and suddenly stalled, before that he was accidentally forgotten on the adjacent street with AP request In short, someone needed a picture
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 42
      +9
      Quote: MG42
      He was attacked by members of the party <<< Brotherhood >> 300 people partially supported some of the freedom + 2 MP

      And captain Vrungel, there below wrote in the comment that it was Yanukovych who hired provocateurs laughing
      1. MG42
        MG42 2 December 2013 08: 55
        10
        There is a complete fog for whom Korchinsky is now working, a muddy type of provocateur and radical, who at one time fought in Chechnya on the side of the militants.
        The leader of the Brotherhood party, who actively participated with his fellow party members in an attempt to storm the Presidential Administration, accused the opposition leaders of not supporting him. He wrote about this in his blog.

        http://kp.ua/daily/021213/426859/
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 2 December 2013 13: 04
      +5
      Quote: MG42
      in short, someone needed a picture

      What does "someone" mean? Petya Poroshenko then spoke on Channel 5 (which belongs to him) and told how he "heroically" jumped on the bucket and stopped this bulldozer!
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 2 December 2013 14: 48
        -2
        Elena! You have to be more honest. More honest. Here are the times. Everything is built on nonsense. Yes Poroshenko jumped on the loader. Stopped. He separated the rotozeevs from the Maidan from the provocateurs of the "titushki". He spread the protesters and the police to a safe distance. By the way, the policemen retreated under his leadership to the distance that he indicated. And this was shown not by "5" channel, but by TSN in the morning block.
        You did not pay attention to the fact that 175 people with injuries were hospitalized. Who gave the police the right to beat people. Even in a street fight, the speed bumps are not beaten. These inhumans in uniform were simultaneously beaten with batons and feet of a fallen person. You did not see how a pregnant woman, a man was beaten on the back with a small child in her arms. Answer to whom they swore allegiance to the people? or godfather who crowned them in lawlessness. Are they fighting bandits? The police are at war with them, and these gangs only serve at the command of a pahanat. Do you like it! Personally, I do not. Drive this power and its militants in shape. And not only drive, but judge. People’s tribunals should be created from honest, competent lawyers, and not use the services of prosecutors and judges to feed regionals.
        The people will conquer this gang of legitimate thieves in law.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 15: 08
          +5
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          Elena! You have to be honest. More honest

          Yeah, how many journalists on the Maidan were beaten?
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          Yes Poroshenko jumped on a loader. Stopped

          Savior laughing
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          By the way, the policemen, under his leadership, retreated to the distance that he indicated

          Well, who would dare to disobey him lol
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          You did not pay attention to the fact that 175 people with injuries were hospitalized

          How many of them are police officers? Or throwing bricks at Berkut is a manifestation of democracy?
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          The people will WIN e

          In short, Khan country.
        2. MG42
          MG42 2 December 2013 15: 15
          -4
          Yuri, I agree with everything in your post except criticism of Elena? we all have the right to make a mistake on the Internet ..
          I venture to convey a little to my Russian colleagues in order to get cons in the trend of urapatriotizva, but still, because power in Ukraine already specifically got almost everyone>>> So, the indignation of ordinary Ukrainians was caused not only by the dispersal itself, but by the fact that the special forces of the golden eagle then pursued the people not only of the protesters, but also ordinary passers-by were handed out, who did not have time to reach the cathedral and just take cover in different directions of the adjacent streets. They even chased girls and beat who ran badly .. There are 2 videos that confirm this, I will post one of them >>

          We apparently started censorship, part of the SBU video deletes
          1. MG42
            MG42 2 December 2013 15: 54
            +2
            Interior Minister Vitaliy Zakharchenko apologized to the Ukrainians for the excessive use of force on the night of December 30 on Independence Square. He stated this at the board of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

            According to him, active actions were not included in the plans of the ministry, Interfax-Ukraine reports.

            “I would personally like to apologize from the board members for the excessive use of force in relation to the participants of the rally on the Maidan ... I would like to state that active actions were not included in the plans,” the minister said.


            http://vlasti.net/news/180543

            Here the truth is already mounted with music
            1. gych
              gych 2 December 2013 16: 56
              -1
              you forgot to add the glory to UKRAINE ,,,! HERO x ,, new
              1. 222222
                222222 2 December 2013 17: 30
                +5
                gych (1) UA Today, 16:56 ↑
                you forgot to add glory to UKRAINE ,,,! HERO x ,, new "
                Showed on the Zombie box performances 1 11 13 rebellious leaders .. After Tyazhniboka poured out on the gnarled Ukrainian Klitschko (apparently he did not remove the mouthpiece from his mouth) .. He finished his fiery speech with the words: "Glory to Ukraine" The crowd chanted, but it was not shown. then Senya Yatsenyuk spoke up .. and ended with the same slogan .. That was picked up by the crowd .. and again they didn’t show any sense. what follows from this:
                1. Both Klitschko and Senya Yatsenyuk followed Tyagnibok ..
                2. They do not have their protesting "readership" in May. (NO) or could not raise at the proper level
                3. The main striking force is the electorate and the active in O "Svoboda" Tyagnibok and the like
                4. They have NO other way to come to power legally. They will aggravate the situation further. What is bad for the country's economy and ...
                5 And do not buy GOD if they come to power .. The same Seine will not seem enough ..
              2. gych
                gych 2 December 2013 18: 23
                +2
                here the bender staff pulled up the first cons flew
          2. gych
            gych 2 December 2013 16: 50
            +6
            uv, judging by your comments, you yourself on the Independence Square shouted for joining GaiRopu!
            1. MG42
              MG42 2 December 2013 16: 59
              -1
              They didn’t guess, just outraged by the cruelty of dispersal like my whole family.
              Quote: gych
              I like the Russian Federation closer than the EU

              And here about IT, does the conversation go in MY comments today? I am trying to illuminate the picture without expressing sympathies and antipathies.
              1. ATATA
                ATATA 2 December 2013 17: 25
                -1
                You and your family have psychosis, it is caused by the work of your media.
                Wake up!
                1. MG42
                  MG42 2 December 2013 17: 32
                  -2
                  Quote: ATATA
                  You and your family have psychosis

                  Thank you. hi Watch Putin TV.
              2. Ptah
                Ptah 2 December 2013 17: 37
                +6
                Quote: MG42
                I am trying to illuminate the picture without expressing sympathies and antipathies.

                But admit that you’ve been bred and underbent with quality. Having shown the European gingerbread, and now get a whip, regardless of what you choose in the future.
                Yanukovosch tore the crotch anyway.
                Wait for attempts to overthrow the government. And you, and everyone who disagrees with you raking in any case. Already under any authority.
                Yanuk pull Putin, but he refuses to harness. Why did he have to be with the West, and Syria was enough.
                And everyone screaming now in the squares under the DIFFERENT flags, acts in the interests of the damned bourgeois.

                Steamboats sailing - the cabin of YanukovoschU,
                Airplanes are flying - the cabin of Yanukovych,
                And europioners will come - they will only shit ...
              3. Hudo
                Hudo 2 December 2013 18: 46
                +6
                Quote: MG42
                MG42 (1) SU Today, 16:59 ↑

                They didn’t guess, just outraged by the cruelty of dispersal like my whole family.

                Hm. But my family is also outraged - the truth is not cruelty, but for many years a belated mizdyulenoy for maydaunnoy thoughts! Earlier, since about 1990, it was necessary to drive a herd of shrill Zapadenskie Papuans into Kiev paving stones with clubs. Maybe they would have lived better, but living with an iodine-deficient Galician’s mind, with GAYROs-fascists can’t make a fortune. And then ALL authorities in a row for all 22 years of occupation licked their butt-rubbed asses for Galitsians, and at the same time, under the joyful screech of the Carpathian Indians about incapacity had a wonderful gesheft.
                1. ATATA
                  ATATA 2 December 2013 21: 33
                  +2
                  Quote: Hudo
                  Hm. But my family is also outraged - the truth is not cruelty, but for many years a belated mizdyulenoy for maydaunnoy thoughts! Earlier, since about 1990, it was necessary to drive a herd of shrill Zapadenskie Papuans into Kiev paving stones with clubs. Maybe they would have lived better, but living with an iodine-deficient Galician’s mind, with GAYROs-fascists can’t make a fortune. And then ALL authorities in a row for all 22 years of occupation licked their butt-rubbed asses for Galitsians, and at the same time, under the joyful screech of the Carpathian Indians about incapacity had a wonderful gesheft.
                  good drinks To the point.
                2. Hudo
                  Hudo 2 December 2013 22: 01
                  +6
                  Quote: ATATA
                  To the point.

                  Still would! Personally, I look at it ** for 22 years.
                  Thank you for your understanding, Alexey. drinks
            2. Odysseus
              Odysseus 2 December 2013 19: 26
              +2
              Quote: MG42
              They didn’t guess, just outraged by the cruelty of dispersal like my whole family.

              Compared to "civilized" Europe, where Ukraine is supposedly aiming, this "dispersal" is just a children's matinee. There, for simple disobedience to the police demand, the protesters would not be squeezed out of the square, but treated with rubber bullets and water cannons. Moreover, the press would have applauded with admiration.
              An attempt to block the work of key state institutions, an attempt to seize the cabinet of ministers, etc. in Europe, in principle, it is impossible, that is, the "Maidan people" there would be harshly dispersed on the very first day.
              PS I'm not talking about the "beacon of democracy" in the USA at all, there people who tried to arrange something like that in Washington would simply be shot like mad dogs.
            3. I am a Russian
              I am a Russian 3 December 2013 08: 35
              -1
              Quote: MG42
              They didn’t guess, just outraged by the cruelty of dispersal like my whole family.


              he is indignant ... liberalist? Blow on ... in his EU.
      2. fzr1000
        fzr1000 2 December 2013 16: 50
        +1
        In a street fight, unfortunately, they beat a lying person for a long time, and they can also shoot a "control" in the head at the end of the trauma. "Animals" especially love it ...
        1. MG42
          MG42 2 December 2013 16: 56
          +2
          Quote: fzr1000
          In a street fight, unfortunately, they have long beaten a recumbent

          This is shown by euronews
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 3 December 2013 05: 53
            0
            Quote: MG42
            This is shown by euronews

            In fact of the matter...
            A loader drove through the crowd ... Are you sure that he crushed only the police?
            Specially trained guys waved their chains ... Are you sure that they only injured policemen in a circular swing?
            In a scale, he shouted: “Come here n ... races!” “Are you sure that this is a man who is not lying with a camera shouting, then posing with his head broken?”
            Yes, and the beating of government officials in the performance of their official duties and the abuse of official authority by government officials are different articles, don’t you?
            And, besides: the people who do not want to feed their army-will feed someone else's ... do you think this is only about the Russians?
      3. Borz
        Borz 2 December 2013 17: 04
        13
        These inhumans in uniform were simultaneously beaten with batons and feet of a fallen person. You did not see how a pregnant woman, a man was beaten on the back with a small child in her arms.
        ************************************************** ******************************
        *
        Question: what did children and a pregnant woman do in such a place and at such a time? Children should eat porridge at home under the supervision of caring parents, and pregnant women should keep their future child, NOT PUSHING ON MAIDAN!
        1. builder
          builder 2 December 2013 19: 35
          +6
          These inhumans in uniform were simultaneously beaten with batons and feet of a fallen person. You did not see how a pregnant woman, a man was beaten on the back with a small child in her arms.

          Familiar situation
      4. 222222
        222222 2 December 2013 18: 40
        +8
        Captain Vrungel (1) SU Today, 14:48 PM ↑
        "You have to be more honest. Honest. These are the times. Everything is built on nonsense. Yes, Poroshenko jumped up .."
        And why exactly Poroshenko jumped up, and not another .. Oligarch, and on the bucket and the crowd to breed Not a lordly thing .. Maybe he remembered the revolutionary 90 years .. Crowd. Above it is a poster "To finish robbing the Ukrainian people" And in the foreground is Poroshenko, not yet known to anyone and not yet an oligarch ...
        And before that, one oligarch Zhvania was exhausted from the faction of the Renion party .. And what kind of an epidemic is this?
        Is this not the financial component of the Maidan ?????????????????
        1. Angry reader
          Angry reader 2 December 2013 19: 00
          0
          their eyes were opened to lawlessness, they had taken an unexpectedly .. opened))
      5. Angry reader
        Angry reader 2 December 2013 18: 57
        +4
        ... What a "mu ... ak" is going to the Maidan with a child, what a ... pregnant ... there ??
        Another order for a picture, by analogy with "swampy pregnant girl"
      6. Egoza
        Egoza 2 December 2013 19: 43
        +6
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        And this was shown not by "5" channel, but by TSN in the morning block.

        And I watched on the 5 channel in the evening!
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        You did not see how a pregnant woman, a man was beaten on the back with a small child in her arms.

        No, I didn’t see it, maybe they showed it on TSN in the morning. But WHY did the pregnant woman and the man with the child flooded there? After all, there were ALREADY clashes with the police! What place did they think? By the way, then, no matter how much they looked for this pregnant woman, they did not find it. Neither in the ambulance, nor among the injured ... By the way, the pillow is not so difficult to put on! We have one such "pregnant" for three years in a row took sessions at the institute, the teachers were sorry, they put everything on the ball. Only later, already after graduation, someone added that she was "pregnant" for all three courses at sessions with the same period!
        1. Angry reader
          Angry reader 3 December 2013 03: 12
          +2
          And they will not find a pregnant woman ... she was "exported" to a "safe place" so that the "dogs of the regime" would not intimidate .. or "there was a miscarriage" through the fault of you know who), If you remember in Riga the corpses were dragged by "innocent murdered"
          PS New stuffing: 5 students from Lviv went missing in Kiev, and tanks go to Kiev))
          ..so everything is according to D. Sharp_)
  • APES
    APES 2 December 2013 08: 46
    10
    Quote: ATATA
    that the current government in Ukraine will end, like Gorbachev. And it will be soon

    Gorbachev ear hook - well settled

    What will happen to this power does not care - people are sorry, as if there didn’t come to the shooting ....
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  • FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 2 December 2013 09: 44
    13
    Quote: ATATA
    Golden eagle stands against the front-end loader even without shields!

    It’s not at all understandable, because the loader’s towers could have been laid right there on absolutely legal grounds. Police generally need to give medals for tolerance.
    1. andranick
      andranick 2 December 2013 10: 44
      +8
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      Police generally need to give medals for tolerance.

      And they got criminal cases. The persecution of cops by the state is one of the main signs of the decay and collapse of the state itself. It is impossible to do this with law enforcement agencies, that is why they are law enforcement agencies, and if the cop keeps in mind "how not to do something," then it will already be a power impotent.
    2. Slavs69
      Slavs69 2 December 2013 14: 11
      +3
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      and completely legal grounds to squander right there. Police generally need to give medals for tolerance.

      I mean shoot? It is forbidden to give out firearms to riots.
      1. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX 2 December 2013 18: 12
        +5
        Quote: Slavs69
        It is forbidden to give out firearms to riots.
        Well then, at least beat off the kidneys, for they would crush people with a tractor, even policemen.
      2. sapran
        sapran 2 December 2013 19: 48
        +3
        Whom to shoot? "Titushek"? this is the usual theater of provocateurs. If you take it seriously, then in this quarter there are permanent places where snipers are on duty and they do not belong to the "golden eagle". Nearby is the building of the DSO (state security service). You don't have to believe all this window dressing. Of course, I feel sorry for the fighters in the first two ranks (in fact, they covered themselves).
        In addition, here on the face is really also a revolt of "capital". Got out "Dentist". Immeasurable greed, seasoned with "Donetsk charm" played a "bad service". In fact, everything is outrageously stupid and stupid ...
        1. MG42
          MG42 3 December 2013 13: 04
          0
          Quote: sapran
          ... If you take it seriously, then in this quarter there are permanent places where snipers are on duty and they do not belong to the "golden eagle".

          Well, finally, a reasonable comment: a loader could not take an unattended tractor there in a specially guarded zone, the driver would have been shot long ago if he really went to the AP, and so the obvious props like he behaved, the tractor died out right in front of the explosives, the monkeys jumped onto the bucket someone needed a picture, all the more, even from the pro-government deputies of Ukraine they received infa, who agreed on how and with whom, and what kind of people, we’ll clarify a little.
  • avt
    avt 2 December 2013 10: 47
    +6
    Quote: ATATA
    The authorities have complete impotence of will.
    The head of the Kiev police, who gave the order to disperse the maydaun, resigned. Those. security officials who give real orders to restore order are simply beaten on the hands.

    And those for whom they protect! And this is not the first time! Remember the Minister of Internal Affairs of Kuchma, when Yanyk leaked the won elections, well, who shot himself with two shots to the head.
  • nickname 1 and 2
    nickname 1 and 2 2 December 2013 11: 29
    +2
    Quote: ATATA
    Well, at least Russia will no longer be to blame.


    Who? have these? Well, hardly!

    eat for free! This infection - to the grave-board - will not unhook.

    and those who do not give fault!
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 3 December 2013 08: 43
      -2
      Quote: nick 1 and 2
      eat for free! This infection - to the grave-board - will not unhook.

      and those who do not give fault!


      and to blame, the one who recalls
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  • washi
    washi 2 December 2013 11: 34
    +1
     ATATA  Today, 07:38 ↑ New
    Well, at least Russia will no longer be to blame.
    On the contrary. This acceleration of leprosy GDP.
    Quote (Sven @ 30.11.2013/21/53, XNUMX:XNUMX PM)
    So what is the Bulo?
    my version is real:
    1. yogo was presented through the failure of Asotsiatsії
    2. vin piddavsya namovlyannyu putin - pam "yatash, yak putin vimagav at Kuchmi, who rozignav Maidan 2004 r.
    http://ukrpolitforum.com/page14694s870.html
  • Ptah
    Ptah 2 December 2013 12: 55
    0
    Quote: ATATA
    overclocking maydownа

    good
    I liked the neologism. Patent, not lose. laughing
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    1. gych
      gych 2 December 2013 17: 00
      +7
      Well, how do such non-peers ... stay? Bandero-fascists are bold when they don’t answer
  • vlad1
    vlad1 2 December 2013 15: 40
    +6
    if Kuchma had enough political will to prevent Pomeranchevs, it wouldn’t be like that now, but it’s going to be the same now as when the authorities can’t and don’t want to manage available resources they’ll throw it off and it’s good if it’s hot without blood
  • Bandera
    Bandera 2 December 2013 15: 48
    +6
    In front of the bulldozer were guys from the Internal Troops, conscripts of 18-25 years old.
    The "Berkut" fighters were (are they now?) In the courtyard.
    So, if the soldiers had parted, today they would have heard from the opposition about the successful seizure of the Presidential Administration and a new revolution. And they just announced the provocateurs.
  • alex13-61
    alex13-61 2 December 2013 17: 40
    +3
    Quote: ATATA
    The authorities have complete impotence of will.

    Our "guarantor" is like that ostrich with its head in the sand - you can't hear or see ...
    Crimean parliament called for the introduction of emergency.
  • cdrt
    cdrt 2 December 2013 19: 36
    +2
    Quote: ATATA
    Well, at least Russia will no longer be to blame.


    This is you in vain laughing
    For Ukrainians, Russia will ALWAYS be to blame for everything, there is no water in the tap, crop failure, an attack by the Martians - all the same, the Russians will be to blame laughing
  • APES
    APES 2 December 2013 08: 34
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I personally congratulate the next clown who wanted to sit on two chairs

    I’m personally put it on, I think to send troops ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 09: 18
      +1
      Quote: APES
      I’m personally put it on, I think to send troops ...

      What and where?
      1. APES
        APES 2 December 2013 09: 57
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What and where?

        not decided yet laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 12: 18
          0
          Quote: APES
          not decided yet

          Decide faster where, why and how much soldier
        2. Basarev
          Basarev 2 December 2013 14: 38
          -7
          It seems like it's time to repeat the Prague Spring ... Only this time it will be Kiev ...
          1. Anper
            Anper 2 December 2013 15: 42
            +5

            According to this scheme, about which Tsarev made an appeal to the prosecutor's office in the Verkhovna Rada.
            1. Anper
              Anper 2 December 2013 16: 27
              +1
              This is for my fellow compatriots.
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      3. I am a Russian
        I am a Russian 3 December 2013 08: 49
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What and where?


        and let's run an expired freebie there? Themselves ****
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  • alexdol
    alexdol 2 December 2013 09: 19
    31
    Alexander Romanov (1) RU "They want to go to Europe and, as it were, to Russia."
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Just ask you to speak more carefully! You say so as if everyone in Ukraine is dreaming of this "uy" GEYROPA! That's who dreams of her - let him go there, and these are mainly representatives from the West! I have said many times and will repeat again: there is no "Ukraine" there is only RUSSIA! And the current Russian government should return its territories, and not watch what happens next! I live in Kharkov, it is 60 km to Belgorod, we are looking forward to Russian TANKS!
    1. komsomolets
      komsomolets 2 December 2013 09: 32
      30
      I join, in the country a mess, anarchy is (the president) is gone somewhere, the banderars want to do something. Yanukovych threw everyone again. I never spoke out all the time, I felt like leaking cowardly again Putin take Ukraine away
      1. Ljubomir
        Ljubomir 2 December 2013 10: 12
        +3
        Quote: komsomolets
        Putin take Ukraine while no zheks

        History apparently does not teach you anything, There was a similar situation - Razlde Poland in 1939. Because London and Paris did not declare war on the USSR, but made Germany the FIRST napavshey.Nuzhno wait until Ukraine breaks into the West and East. ONLY THEN, under the pretext of establishing civil peace and protecting against possible aggression from outside (after all, Romania has territorial claims).
        1. komsomolets
          komsomolets 2 December 2013 10: 30
          12
          Yes, I’m so, on emotions, it’s just that you don’t see such a circus every day. The whole country is one big circus.
          1. Gecko
            Gecko 2 December 2013 10: 43
            +4
            We can only sympathize for now.
          2. Ljubomir
            Ljubomir 2 December 2013 10: 58
            +4
            Quote: komsomolets
            Yes, I’m so, on emotions, it’s just that you don’t see such a circus every day. The whole country is one big circus.

            Does it seem to you like the 90-91st? On emotions and for EBNutym went.
            1. IS-80
              IS-80 2 December 2013 11: 43
              0
              Quote: Lubomyr
              Does it seem to you like the 90-91st? On emotions and for EBNutym went.


              Rather like in 1653
            2. Ptah
              Ptah 2 December 2013 13: 30
              +6
              Quote: Lubomyr
              On emotions and for EBNutym went.

              But people who agree with the written are still alive.
              I would now ask them what they think about ...
              It is the same in Ukraine. They beckoned me with a beautiful placard which depicts "sausage", and behind the picture - a garbage can.
              I know what I'm saying - because I see with my own eyes.
        2. APES
          APES 2 December 2013 11: 14
          +4
          Quote: Lubomyr
          It is necessary to wait until Ukraine breaks into "west" and "east".

          it seems to me, but in my opinion it happened a long time ago, just look at the fantastic twine in which any president of Ukraine sits.
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    2. slvevg
      slvevg 2 December 2013 11: 02
      +3
      And everyone thought that the 3rd World War will begin with Syria. It would not be again from Europe. fool
      1. I am a Russian
        I am a Russian 3 December 2013 08: 56
        +1
        Quote: slvevg
        And everyone thought that the 3rd World War will begin with Syria. It would not be again from Europe.


        not from Europe will not start ... there are a lot of chocks, but they will not let their house be destroyed.

    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 15: 10
      0
      Quote: alexdol
      Just ask to speak more carefully! You say so, as if everyone in Ukraine is dreaming

      You probably have not read my earlier comments, who knows me, understands everything. Do not believe me, ask Kars, this will be the most independent source of information for you.
    4. Borz
      Borz 2 December 2013 17: 13
      +7
      The south of Ukraine with Russia! Ekaterina2-I, Potemkin, Suvorov, Rumyantsev-these are our values, our history, our truth! The Geyrope essence is alien to us.
  • Lankov Victor
    Lankov Victor 2 December 2013 10: 55
    +2
    When there is a trap under the booty, there is no way for amenities. If only the edges of the priests to stay.
  • 222222
    222222 2 December 2013 11: 47
    11
    V. And Lenin: "All power is worth something only when it knows how to defend itself."
    1. 222222
      222222 2 December 2013 14: 52
      +2
      Question: "If the government cannot defend itself, can it defend its people ???"
  • makarov
    makarov 2 December 2013 11: 52
    +8
    "..Well, how does Yanukovych sit there, doesn't press anything, doesn't press? .."

    Yevonaya "gopa" was divided into two camps according to grannies and profit, one for him (that is, equity) - others against (that is, for equity). And everything else - slogans, appeals, etc., is all soap.
    In Ukraine, there are 100 dollar billionaires, and Janek said to the EU you say give 160 billion to boost the Ukrainian industry ... The EU is just awesome, because they know that the Ukrainian industry is long gone, but there are factory steamers of specific "navels". I wanted to chop the two-faced Anus of the grannies, and ended up in the international goose.
  • AVV
    AVV 2 December 2013 12: 50
    +7
    Here, simply Yanukovych wants to sell Ukraine at a higher price, and it will always seem that they give very little, but such are the laws of trade that each product has its own real price and you won’t be able to take more because the cost of the goods is what kind of money buyers are willing to buy !! ! Europe is ready to lay out for Independent, as for stale goods and offers essentially barter, its democratic values, terrible homosexuality, juvenile justice, plus freedom of choice, to be free from work, from the family in its traditional sense, from making decisions as an independent state !!! And Russia offers further cooperation in production, real loans, the construction of the latest nuclear power plant, and energy at domestic Russian prices and much more !!! And all this is work for Ukrainian citizens, the opportunity to earn money at home, and not to get hired France, Germany, England for uncle !!! That's all the differences, and the choice always remains with the people !!!
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 2 December 2013 13: 19
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Given what is happening in Kiev now and how the EU is reacting to it



    "The European Union takes a neutral position, but believes that those responsible for the excessive use of force should be punished. If the country's leadership does not do this, the European Union has its own means, including the possibility of imposing a ban on entry to European states," the diplomat said.


    Here is the Ukrainian "Magnitsky List". In my response, I propose to Ukraine to legally prohibit children and girls under 25 from traveling to Europe. An eye for an eye ... Let them suffer dry
    1. Gecko
      Gecko 2 December 2013 13: 34
      +2
      And after that they say that Russia is crushing?
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 15: 13
      +2
      Quote: Cherdak
      The EU is neutral

      Yeah, and the European deputies speaking on the Maidan is so, well, nothing winked
  • piotr534
    piotr534 2 December 2013 16: 01
    +1
    It’s funny to read all these headlines about Ukraine as a bride, and the whole subtext comes down to who has Ukraine!
  • Vovka levka
    Vovka levka 2 December 2013 17: 31
    -4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: GUSAR
    Do they want to go to Europe ?!

    They want both to Europe and, as it were, to Russia. Given what is happening in Kiev now and how the EU is reacting to it belay On my own behalf, I congratulate the next clown who wanted to sit on two chairs.
    Well, how is Yanukovych sitting there for you, not squeezing anything, not pushing?

    The Ukrainian people did not go against Yanukovych and not for European integration, this is secondary. He went just for himself.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 2 December 2013 18: 58
      +5
      Quote: Vovka Levka
      The Ukrainian people did not go against Yanukovych and not for European integration, this is secondary. He went just for himself.


      Yeah, for yourself! According to the scenario from the embassy of the usa for themselves do not go/ Libyan proverb /
  • 755962
    755962 2 December 2013 19: 53
    +5
    Oleg Tsarev. The United States is preparing to foment a civil war in Ukraine
    “Activists of the Volya public organization appealed to me as the People’s Deputy of Ukraine, who provided convincing evidence that the TechCamp project was being implemented in the territory of our state with the support and direct participation of the US Embassy, ​​in the framework of which preparations were being made to foment a civil war on Ukraine. The TechCamp project aims at training specialists in information warfare and discrediting state institutions in modern media, potential revolutionaries for organizing protests and overthrowing the state regime. The project is under the patronage and supervision of the US ambassador to Ukraine, Jeffrey Payette, ”the politician said.


    http://www.russiapost.su/archives/10902

  • atalef
    atalef 3 December 2013 09: 11
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    They want both to Europe and, as it were, with Russia

    Sanya, well, Germany and Italy - also, as it were, in the EU and NATO - are nevertheless considered friends of Russia. Why would such an option not be held with Ukraine?

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    On my own behalf, I congratulate the next clown who wanted to sit on two chairs. Well, how are you sitting there, Yanukovych is squeezing nothing, not pushing?


    Sanya, Yanukovych would love to enter the TS, only he understands that he should live in Ukraine.
  • ekzorsist
    ekzorsist 4 December 2013 19: 39
    0
    Multi-vector ... something familiar ... here is another multi-vector and multi-polar near Russia - Kazakhstan.
    Maybe looking at this brothelier in Kazakhs, normal thoughts will appear in my head ... though ...
  • igorelo
    igorelo 5 December 2013 22: 35
    0
    The author. He doesn't know a damn thing. he is Ukrainophobic. Moscow crap life in Ukraine. Katsapi idiot. I wish America to bomb Katsapstan with nuclear bombs as soon as possible. Death pit. Glory to Ukraine!
  • igorelo
    igorelo 5 December 2013 22: 35
    0
    The author. He doesn't know a damn thing. he is Ukrainophobic. Moscow crap life in Ukraine. Katsapi idiot. I wish America to bomb Katsapstan with nuclear bombs as soon as possible. Death pit. Glory to Ukraine!
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 6 December 2013 00: 20
      0
      Quote: igorelo
      The author. Don't know a damn thing


      again stupid people fled request
  • mirag2
    mirag2 2 December 2013 08: 07
    +7
    Yes, let them figure it out, on the sites "Freedom" and other + national Ukrainian-such shnyaga-chronicle of attacks on the "defenders", pressure from Russia, Russian special forces, live broadcasts, other mura-such shnyaga gives the beginning of the 90s in the USSR, then the same.
    Ugh, disgusting.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 15
      +5
      Quote: mirag2
      -such shnyaga gives the beginning of the 90s in the USSR, the same thing.

      So they stayed there, far from far away. The slogans are the same as 20 years ago.
    2. Borz
      Borz 2 December 2013 17: 15
      +2
      State Department stinks
  • ole
    ole 2 December 2013 08: 50
    -11 qualifying.
    Ukraine is another fact country and in my opinion there will never be an alliance with Russia, so the choice of Europe, even to the states, is their choice, our task is to tear Russia.
    1. APES
      APES 2 December 2013 08: 57
      +4
      Quote: ole
      Ukraine is another state


      Who said?
      1. MG42
        MG42 2 December 2013 09: 18
        -8
        Quote: APES
        Who said?

        Is Ukraine another state of something wrong?
        1. IS-80
          IS-80 2 December 2013 10: 49
          +1
          Quote: MG42
          Is Ukraine another state of something wrong?


          Already how many centuries "something is wrong", and you just noticed?
          1. MG42
            MG42 2 December 2013 11: 09
            +3
            Quote: IS-80
            did you just notice?

            What did I notice? What suddenly my Ukrainian passport materialized? wassat
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 2 December 2013 11: 32
              +5
              Quote: MG42
              did you just notice?

              What did I notice? What suddenly my Ukrainian passport materialized?


              In 1941-44. former European integrators in the same territory also issued outswinges to the population. So what? And where are those advise now?
            2. APES
              APES 2 December 2013 11: 40
              0
              Quote: MG42
              What suddenly my Ukrainian passport materialized?


              In dreams, our emotions are many times, several orders of magnitude stronger than in real life.

              it's time to wake up, otherwise they plan to introduce responsibility for calls for separatism, some even offer only for thoughts and even for dreams!
              1. MG42
                MG42 2 December 2013 11: 45
                +4
                Quote: APES
                In dreams, our emotions are many times, several orders of magnitude stronger than in real life.

                time to wake up

                What do you propose to issue Russian passports to Ukrainian citizens, or maybe return a USSR passport?
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 2 December 2013 12: 36
                  +2
                  Quote: Sochi
                  What do you propose to issue Russian passports to Ukrainian citizens, or maybe return a USSR passport?

                  Quote: MG42
                  Quote: APES
                  In dreams, our emotions are many times, several orders of magnitude stronger than in real life.

                  time to wake up

                  What do you propose to issue Russian passports to Ukrainian citizens, or maybe return a USSR passport?

                  Почему нет?
                2. APES
                  APES 2 December 2013 12: 44
                  +6
                  Quote: MG42
                  What do you propose to issue Russian passports to Ukrainian citizens, or maybe return a USSR passport?


                  I will answer this: time will put everything in its place.

                  and so the process is already going on, and OUR MOTHERLAND IS WITH YOU (I emphasize ours with you - try to prove that this is not so wink ) from defense has already passed to successful attacks - the question is different - what is your choice - to be a part of the WHOLE or to be in a "known place" (which for some reason is now called "in Europe").
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          2. Sochi
            Sochi 2 December 2013 11: 28
            0
            20 years just ... in other times there was a division of Russian land by foreign interventionists.
        2. gych
          gych 2 December 2013 17: 04
          -1
          that's it, something is wrong!
      2. avt
        avt 2 December 2013 10: 53
        +4
        Quote: ole
        Ukraine is another fact country and in my opinion there will never be an alliance with Russia, so the choice of Europe, even to the states, is their choice, our task is to tear Russia.

        Quote: APES
        Who said?
        Their elected president Kuchma even wrote a little book - "Ukraine is not Russia", and before that EBN, Kravchuk and Shushkevmch wrote it on paper in Belovezhie.
        1. APES
          APES 2 December 2013 11: 43
          +3
          Quote: avt
          Kuchma, EBN, Kravchuk and Shushkevmch


          Who is this? I didn’t have such patients, I don’t remember ...
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      3. I am a Russian
        I am a Russian 3 December 2013 09: 08
        -1
        Quote: APES
        Quote: ole
        Ukraine is another state


        Who said?


        cheap populism
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  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 2 December 2013 09: 35
    +4
    It's just that it has already become a tradition of the Ukrainian people to "Maidan", we go to barbecues or drink beer, and they sit on Maidan, so they have a rest laughing
    1. Bosk
      Bosk 2 December 2013 10: 25
      +8
      For example, well, Ukraine will join the European Union, prices for communal products and other "joys" of life will rise, unemployment will increase ... and what next?, Again on the Maidan?, Only this time there will be no guys with iron pipes in their hands from western Ukraine ... but guys with rails in the hands of eastern ones will do too ...
      1. Rubs
        Rubs 2 December 2013 15: 27
        +3
        communal prices will rise

        This must be arranged in Lviv region to aerate the brain. Although not - for a month throughout the territory. I agree to pay for such a science.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 2 December 2013 19: 01
          0
          Quote: Rubs
          This must be arranged in Lviv region to aerate the brain.


          There, apart from napalm and carpet bombing, you can’t ventilate the area from the fascist Galician stench.
    2. Simon
      Simon 2 December 2013 12: 13
      +1
      Yeah! Yes, they showed on TV how they fried fat on barrels, but they probably didn’t give beer, the hryvnia ended laughing
  • yurii p
    yurii p 2 December 2013 10: 02
    +7
    apparently you don’t understand the whole situation, but the fact is that Europe wants to get a colony and what is important this colony has a border with Russia, and the desire to involve Georgia, Armenia, Moldova, if Ukraine enters the European Union, take a map and understand what it will be, a blockade of the country from Europe and they will begin to dictate the conditions of Russia, it didn’t work out with NATO, they went the other way, it’s not without reason that the United States takes an active part in Ukraine’s involvement, and along the way the European Union receives markets for its goods, i.e. economic gain in person, and Russia loses ties with Ukraine , we must not forget that joint companies have remained since the times of the USSR, especially in the defense industry.
  • Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 2 December 2013 10: 55
    16
    I don’t give a damn. I have sisters and uncles there, my mother is Ukrainian in the end. And I still remember the good Soviet years, when they took me to my grandmother in a village in Ukraine for the whole summer. Dear people, kind and generous. I know how weddings took place there all over the village, how they all built housing together young. I am sure that the outback is still the same. Far from politics and Maidan. And I know many friends who have many relatives there. So don't give a damn.

    This is the answer to the first post "... Don't we care about this Ukraine? ..."
    1. Platov
      Platov 2 December 2013 11: 33
      -11 qualifying.
      Is not your sister hanging out on the Maidan for the integration of the geyevropu.
  • Simon
    Simon 2 December 2013 10: 57
    +4
    Eastern and Crimea do not want to Europe. How to be What, cast aside fate? My opinion is this, the Easterners and Crimeans to pick up in Russia, and let the rest climb to Europe.
    1. In the book
      In the book 2 December 2013 11: 17
      -4
      Quote: Simon
      Eastern and Crimea do not want to Europe. How to be

      Do you know better from Russia what they want in Ukraine?
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 2 December 2013 11: 35
        +3
        Quote: Libr
        Do you know better from Russia what they want in Ukraine?

        And I personally from the Donbass can see that Comrade Simon is 100% right. Believe me, I communicate with a wide range of people - most of them are here.
      2. heathen
        heathen 3 December 2013 15: 59
        0
        Well, I'm from Kiev. Most of those whom I know are by no means seeking Europe, but are increasingly looking toward Russia.
    2. alex13-61
      alex13-61 2 December 2013 17: 51
      +3
      Quote: Simon
      Eastern and Crimea do not want to Europe. How to be

      I confirm. I live in the Crimea.
      Ukraine (even without Crimea) is so different mentally that a federal structure is a necessity.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 2 December 2013 20: 18
        +5
        Quote: alex13-61
        Quote: Simon
        Eastern and Crimea do not want to Europe. How to be
        I confirm. I live in the Crimea.
        Ukraine (even without Crimea) is so different mentally that a federal structure is a necessity.

        If Yanek does not call Svidomo to order, then Ukraine will be a confederation. And then, guys, you decide - where and how ...
  • self-propelled
    self-propelled 2 December 2013 11: 14
    27
    Quote: GUSAR
    Do they want to go to Europe ?!

    so the way is simple
    1. In the book
      In the book 2 December 2013 13: 10
      +4
      Quote: self-propelled
      so the way is simple

      Here I completely agree with you.
      That is how it should be.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 2 December 2013 12: 32
    +2
    Quote: GUSAR
    They want to be independent - for God's sake, only at their own expense !!! Do they want to go to Europe ?! They’d bring it down soon ...

    fool Is she ready to send her sister to the boulevard too, if only to free her living space? stop
  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 2 December 2013 12: 54
    +5
    Quote: GUSAR
    But do not we care about this Ukraine?

    In fact, do not give a damn ... Ukraine is much more important (for us) than all the Uzbeks / Tajiks and other Asia combined.
    Several million Russians live in Ukraine and pro-Russian sentiments are very strong (in the east and south).
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 2 December 2013 13: 02
    +5
    Quote: GUSAR
    They want to be independent - for God's sake, only at their own expense !!!


    They just don't want to be independent, but quickly lie under the EU! For "European salaries and pensions." Where does this nonsense come from - a question for the local media and various nongovernmental groups sucking foreign money.

    Of course, it would be optimal to let the Ukrainians join this "line", and then create a drain of the remaining bright brains, but it will obviously not work out in a kind way. "Svidomo" even a count on his head amuse, but Russia will always be to blame.

    In one I completely agree that present-day Ukraine is a non-state, a patchwork entity that centripetal forces will tear apart. And the sooner, the better for the population.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 2 December 2013 13: 12
      +5
      Quote: Cherdak
      For "European salaries and pensions." Where does this nonsense come from - a question for the local media and various nongovernmental groups sucking foreign money.

      Where did it come from? Yes, every time Yatsenyuk announces this at rallies and in parliament! And two more blockheads - support and repeat !!!! am
    2. Basarev
      Basarev 2 December 2013 14: 49
      +1
      Centrifugal and centripetal forces are not the same thing
    3. 222222
      222222 2 December 2013 17: 05
      0
      Cherdak FI Today, 13:02 PM ↑
      "I completely agree on one thing that today's Ukraine is a non-state .."
      .. you offer the Russian Federation, as the legal successor of the USSR, to unilaterally denounce the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact and its annex .. (Wicked joke).
  • w2000
    w2000 2 December 2013 13: 09
    +5
    Quote: GUSAR
    But do not we care about this Ukraine? They want to be independent - for God's sake, only at their own expense !!! Do they want to go to Europe ?! They’d bring it down soon ...


    There is a dirty policy. There are economic interests of Western countries and local oligarchs. There are comprador, anti-people regimes in Russia and Ukraine that serve the interests of capitalist oligarchs. All these Russia-Ukraine-EU-USA undercover games are only a reflection of the struggle for resources and profits between different gangs of exploiting capitalists, the essence of which is the same.
    But there are also historical realities, according to which Ukraine is a part of Russia. The people living in these territories, with the exception of the western regions of Ukraine, are united, despite the attempts of artificial separation undertaken by the West, according to the principle of divide and conquer. There are geopolitical realities, according to which the West will always confront Russia, seeing in it a competitor, rival or enemy, depending on the political situation.
    On this basis, for the people of Russia and Ukraine, both their own leaders, who are puppets of the capitalist oligarchs, and European integrators, are hostile. But unlike local exploiters, the methods of the West, when gaining access to the resources of Ukraine and Russia, will be much more predatory and ruthless in relation to the people, because exhaustion of resources during an intervention is always more intense due to time constraints.
  • skullcap
    skullcap 2 December 2013 13: 54
    +3
    This whole Vilnius intermedia reminded me of 90s.
    I remember: there was a small article in “Soviet Russia”. The author shared his observations about the decline of morality among high school students. The fact that some schoolgirls were led to demagogy about the release from the shackles of the age-old prejudices of their dark ancestors and decided on "free love". They began to be called "common girls." And use them when you please, do not hesitate to openly rape against their will. Soon they all realized that instead of the promised freedom, they had become sexual slaves. But behaved differently. Someone began to correct the error and atone for sins. But some, realizing what mud they were in, decided to smear as many neighbors as possible in this mud. They lured their decent classmates into traps, where they had been raped by the waiting thugs. At the same time, “common girls” often kept their legs deceived by victims.
    What they wanted to turn in Vilnius, one to one reminds of this tragic situation. Where in the role of "common European girls" were Poland and Lithuania, and the role of the duped fool was meant for Ukraine.
    It is unlikely that Brussels is going to rape Ukraine in a benign regime, like Poland. Most likely it will do this as with Bulgaria - with particular cynicism.
    This time Ukraine managed to avoid Brussels rape. But criminals are rarely so easy to part with the intended victim.
    Let's see how events will develop further.
  • Apostle
    Apostle 2 December 2013 14: 00
    +2
    So you just can’t give a damn about the brothers with whom grandfathers-great-grandfathers stood shoulder to shoulder to death for the Russian land? hi
  • Powder donut
    Powder donut 2 December 2013 14: 51
    +2
    they don’t want to go to Europe, they want to live a normal life, receive decent pensions. Cops and officials to press the nail ... many ordinary people connect with the arrival in the European Union dreams of a bright tomorrow. They believe that Old Man or Mamma Merkel will come and everything will work out right away. And they will go to Schengen. In general, everything painfully recalls the times of the collapse of the USSR ...

    Naive ...

    May God grant Ukraine not to lose itself in this choice.
    1. Apostle
      Apostle 2 December 2013 15: 04
      +1
      Everyone doesn’t give a damn about politics, people care that their children will eat tomorrow, it’s hard to live in Ukraine, we returned in '93, the squares turn into bazaars again, the police are more afraid than bandits, we have fun ..
  • 222222
    222222 2 December 2013 17: 52
    0
    GUSAR RU Today, 07:23 AM
    Don't we care about this Ukraine? "
    but other countries act the other way around. today news "Why support Ukrainians on the Maidan?
    ("wPolityce", Poland Piotr Zaremba)
    "... the context of Ukraine's liberation from the sphere of Russian domination remains relevant regardless of what we think of the European Union as a political and bureaucratic project that is mired in a crisis ...."
    http://www.inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20131202/215314486.html
    And on the other hand, many of the former had a historical genetic memory .. The memory of the Great Speech of the Commonwealth, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the Empire of King Charlemagne and Mazepa, who betrayed Tsar Peter ... did not notice that these three countries are the most violent in events on the external arena in Ukraine ???
  • Angry reader
    Angry reader 2 December 2013 18: 45
    0
    Ternopil, I-Frankivsk, Lviv .. - yes, to Europe, it is desirable to protect the possessed with a "thorn" .. and I will ask you to leave the rest on the "table" ...
    1. alone
      alone 2 December 2013 20: 10
      +2
      Which EU, which TS? The people are simply tired of living under the heel of Yanukovych and his gang. That’s why such a powerful crowd is in Kiev. You can safely say that no matter how it ends, Yanukovych is already a political corpse and thrown into the dustbin of history. But I want only one thing for the people of Ukraine: Choose what you yourself want and don’t listen to anyone. If even this is wrong. But then, so that no one blames anyone for this. It's time to make a decision and be responsible for the consequences of this decision. Whatever it is!
  • Stashen
    Stashen 2 December 2013 20: 41
    +3
    Do not spit - a significant part of Ukrainians consider themselves Russian, the same Crimea and the eastern regions. Now we will give Ukraine, tomorrow Smolensk and Belgorod regions. It’s already obvious to everyone - crushing and pitting Russian civilization is a long-term strategy of the Western elites.
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 2 December 2013 21: 08
    +2
    Quote: GUSAR
    Do they want to go to Europe ?! They’d bring it down soon ...


    On the next branch:

    "Zapadentsev" attracts Europe, Left-Bank Ukraine and Crimea - Russia. There is no "mental" difference between a resident of Donetsk or Kharkov region, and a resident of Russia, this is one people. Well, no more difference than between, say, the Urals and St. Petersburg.

    In the meantime, Mikhail Alexandrov, head of the Caucasus department and Baltic expert at the Institute of CIS Countries, commented on the appeal of the Sevastopol deputy Sergei Smolyaninov to Vladimir Putin asking him to send Russian troops to Ukraine.

    “Isn't it time for us to use the mechanism of Article 7 of the Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership” between Russia and Ukraine. Indeed, in the light of this article, the well-known appeal of the deputies of Sevastopol to Putin is quite legitimate, ”he reasoned.

    Alexandrov believes that in the event of the forcible removal of the Yanukovych’s government in Kiev, consultations can be held with the legitimate regional authorities of Ukraine, including Sevastopol, because the Treaty does not say anywhere that consultations should be held with the central government.
  • from bavaria
    from bavaria 5 December 2013 01: 40
    0
    Well, yes, we’ll spit on one edge, we’ll spit on the eastern distant edge, and in the Urals in our own saliva we will succumb to the fact that we won’t find the climb.
  • paninartem
    paninartem 6 December 2013 10: 04
    0
    And you saw that the Putin government posted on the network a database of all citizens of the CIS and the Russian Federation: phones, addresses, photo and video recordings,
    personal correspondence and much more. By the way, all the data is publicly available, but you can hide your profile if you do not want others to see it.
    Here is a link to that site http://5u2.ru/a7b

    And you saw that the Putin government posted on the network a database of all citizens of the CIS and the Russian Federation: phones, addresses, photo and video recordings,
    personal correspondence and much more. By the way, all the data is publicly available, but you can hide your profile if you do not want others to see it.
    Here is a link to that site http://5u2.ru/a7b
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  • MG42
    MG42 2 December 2013 07: 24
    +5
    An interesting video about Yanukovych says his companion in the Party of Regions, Inna Bogoslovskaya, yesterday, however, she left this party like some other deputies.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 07: 29
      12
      Quote: MG42
      Yesterday, however, she left this party like some other deputies.

      Yeah, the rats ran from the sinking ship laughing
      1. MG42
        MG42 2 December 2013 07: 38
        +2
        In PR there was a strict discipline, yesterday several. deputies wrote a statement to withdraw from the faction further promise even more, thus the pro-government majority in the Rada may cease to exist and the state of emergency will be problematic to introduce

        This video was shot on the night of December 1 to 2. But for the second night in a row, after the dispersal of the Euromaidan at dawn on November 30, people huddle in the Mikhailovsky Cathedral of the monastery. In the courtyard of the cathedral they feed and provide medical care.
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 2 December 2013 08: 02
          +5
          Quote: MG42
          Yesterday deputies wrote a statement to withdraw from the faction further promise even more, thus the pro-government majority in the Rada may cease to exist and the state of emergency will be problematic to introduce

          These will come out - others will come in (in Ukraine, like in our country a mixed system, that is, majority and proportional electoral systems), and they will be forced to give money for elections ...
          1. MG42
            MG42 2 December 2013 08: 33
            +6
            This is what we call "Tushki" about the deputies, not to be confused with the "titushki" these are gopnik-athletes, migrant workers. In short, the merry yolka will be for the New Year.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 40
              +7
              Quote: MG42
              In short, the fun yolka will be for the New Year.

              What a tree, it has already been dismantled into barricades.
              1. MG42
                MG42 2 December 2013 08: 48
                -10 qualifying.
                This is a message for Yanukovych from a child from Mikhailovskaya Square the morning after the dispersal
                1. Old_kapitan
                  Old_kapitan 2 December 2013 09: 05
                  33
                  But to lead the children there, this is already zapadlo. Immediately hide the skin from dad-mom tear up the freaks, freaks! Butut then nits yell that special forces beat.
                  1. MG42
                    MG42 2 December 2013 09: 19
                    +3
                    Special Forces did not attack Mikhailovskaya Square.
                    1. Old_kapitan
                      Old_kapitan 2 December 2013 09: 50
                      13
                      Special Forces did not attack Mikhailovskaya Square.
                      What's the difference! To take children to such events is to deliberately put them at risk for the sake of a beautiful poster. These are not parents, these are tricks!
                      1. Platov
                        Platov 2 December 2013 11: 40
                        +7
                        Parents do not hide behind their children neither their own nor strangers. These are already sexual minorities.
                      2. Basarev
                        Basarev 2 December 2013 14: 54
                        +3
                        It seems to me that some of the parents realize that education is most effective only in the very early years ... And therefore, from an early age they introduce revolutionary ideas to children. This is a terrible danger for any state, not only Ukraine.
                  2. In the book
                    In the book 2 December 2013 11: 20
                    -12 qualifying.
                    Parents came with the child to a PEACE rally, not a war.
                    1. Hudo
                      Hudo 2 December 2013 11: 39
                      +1
                      Quote: Libr
                      Parents came with the child to a PEACE rally, not a war.


                      Do you yourself even believe in what you just wrote? And in 2004, in order not to be dispersed by the dubbing of the then mayduning, schoolchildren were brought to the majdun. Or say this was not? And they brought them out consciously endangering children - it was not clear how it would end.
                      1. Hudo
                        Hudo 2 December 2013 12: 14
                        +2
                        Who is there the truth about the children brought to the maydown in 2004 closed their eyes with swine lard?
                      2. Hudo
                        Hudo 2 December 2013 12: 28
                        +4
                        As we quietly "minus", you will also hide behind children's backs.
                        the unwashed hutsul, putting a minus, the Euro-panic curtsy bent. laughing fool
                  3. Egoza
                    Egoza 2 December 2013 11: 44
                    +9
                    Quote: Libr
                    Parents came with the child to a PEACE rally, not a war.

                    Do they not watch TV, do not "rummage" on the network? Don't know what's going on there? They would have put themselves out, but with a child "smarter"! Scum!
                  4. shark
                    shark 2 December 2013 12: 33
                    +7
                    I’m not going to take my child to a peaceful rally, because it’s complete mudachism
                  5. Corneli
                    Corneli 2 December 2013 12: 57
                    13
                    Quote: Libr
                    Parents came with the child to a PEACE rally, not war

                    You can take it easy, but yesterday a 6-year-old girl who came with dad got lost right on the air ... they were looking for dad for an hour (I watched the opposition stream). Walking with a child in the thousands of uncontrollable crowd, thirsting for revolution, can be the current of the down!
                2. Simon
                  Simon 2 December 2013 12: 18
                  +2
                  Really, you say it right. am
                3. Cherdak
                  Cherdak 2 December 2013 13: 09
                  +6
                  Quote: Old_Kapitan
                  it's already zapadlo.


                  The website of the White House has already posted 11 petitions calling on the United States to intervene in the situation in Ukraine. Most of them appeared in the last few days.

                  In Sevastopol, they began collecting signatures under an appeal to the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin with a request to send troops to Ukraine in order to "save the country from American aggressors"
                4. I am a Russian
                  I am a Russian 3 December 2013 09: 16
                  0
                  Quote: Old_Kapitan
                  Immediately hide the skin from dad-mom tear up the freaks, freaks! Butut then nits yell that special forces beat.


                  I agree with you. Such parents are responsible.
              2. alex13-61
                alex13-61 2 December 2013 17: 59
                +5
                Quote: MG42
                This is a message for Yanukovych from a child from Mikhailovskaya Square the morning after the dispersal

                Only, it wasn’t written by the children ...
            2. Kars
              Kars 2 December 2013 11: 42
              +1
              I would participate in the discussion, but I want to talk more about military topics))) And not like last week. Regarding the Christmas tree - look on the net - there is one very interesting perspective there.

              Okay, do not remember me in the sou, mentally I'm with you)))
              http://carabaas.livejournal.com/12440131.html
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 12: 20
                +5
                Quote: Kars
                Okay, do not remember me in the sou, mentally I'm with you)))

                Kars, are you on maidan?
                1. Kars
                  Kars 2 December 2013 12: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Kars, are you on maidan?

                  Lenya. I already felt good. But thank you for that and look at us Tyagnibok will become president.
                  1. Corneli
                    Corneli 2 December 2013 12: 59
                    10
                    Quote: Kars
                    Lenya. I already felt good. But thank you for that and look at us Tyagnibok will become president.

                    Yeah, all the more so yesterday at the Lenin monument his golden eagle fell in a lyuley. Looked, neighing with this. So he was losing an almost heroic victim.
                    1. gych
                      gych 2 December 2013 17: 07
                      -1
                      give a video! I want to laugh too and guys to please
                    2. Corneli
                      Corneli 3 December 2013 01: 42
                      +1
                      Quote: gych
                      give a video! I want to laugh too and guys to please

                      Look, until you rub ... more sedin a lot of things on yesterday’s links on YouTube are dumb)
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DnYC-RMjNw
                      Vidos not from the beginning, the topic with "freedom" somewhere from 8 minutes ... and alas and ah ... there was clowning further ... the golden eagle left, tried to interview a tipk who allegedly "negotiated" with them at the moment " interview "the blue Zapadensky body crawled, began to interrupt and ask to beat off Lenin's fish soup and nose). No "aunts", no masks ... usual b ... lo, about 40 years old, with zapadenskoy promysh ...
                    3. I am a Russian
                      I am a Russian 3 December 2013 09: 19
                      -2
                      yes ... a herd of bread and a sight
                2. Cherdak
                  Cherdak 2 December 2013 13: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: Kars
                  and look at us Tyagnibok will become president.



                  On November 29, a petition calling for sanctions against Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych for Kiev's suspension of preparations for signing an association agreement with the EU gathered more than 100 votes on the White House website and was submitted to the American administration.
                3. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 13: 30
                  +9
                  Quote: Kars
                  . but thank you for that and look at us Tyagnibok will become president.

                  Hahahaa, if he becomes president, you will be sent to the trenches on the eastern front. And you knowing that South-Eastern Military District has already been re-equipped, you will swear Tyagnibok and the whole maidan, covering your head with your hands when you approach another Iskander wassat
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 2 December 2013 14: 06
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Hahahaa if he becomes president

                    Your efforts. Who said Putin calculated everything?
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    You’ll be sent to the trenches on the eastern front. And you knowing that

                    I hope there will be a T-90?
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    covering his head with his hands when approaching another Iskander

                    The next one, “how many of them do you have?” And to shoot Iskander in the infantry is cool.

                    You mean if you write that these are your provocations. It would be better to write to me in drugs.
                  2. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 14: 33
                    +3
                    Quote: Kars
                    Who said Putin calculated everything?

                    And I, including, I also said that this is the beginning of the end of the Ukraine project. This is the end in any situation. First, chaos, and then ... wink
                    Quote: Kars
                    I hope there will be a T-90?

                    And then, you can make new pictures, well, unless of course they are allowed by the convoys who will drive you to Siberia with their hands up laughing
                    Quote: Kars
                    ? And on infantry to shoot Iskander is cool.

                    Duc acre infantry you have nothing left, what are we now in vain Iskander bought. winked
                    Quote: Kars
                    I. It would be better to write to me in drugs

                    As you say the boss soldier
                  3. Kars
                    Kars 2 December 2013 14: 44
                    +1
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    And including me, and I also said that this is the beginning of the end of the project for Ukraine. This is the end in any situation. First, chaos, and then.

                    Do you think Putin is to blame for everything? We’ll write it down. You won’t wait for chaos.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    And then, you can make new photos

                    RPG-26 try.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Duc acre infantry you have nothing left, what are we now in vain Iskander bought.

                    Well then, I’m completely calm for myself. It’s a pity that you didn’t voice the number of Iskanders.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    As you say the boss

                    Well, you don’t forget the main thing.
                  4. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 14: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: Kars
                    . Here only chaos you will not wait.

                    Honestly, I didn’t understand why Putin is guilty of throwing bricks with your golden eagle.
                    Quote: Kars
                    RPG-26 try.

                    Hmm, I don’t know. Actually, the prisoners are not supposed to laughing
                    Quote: Kars
                    Though it’s a pity that you did not announce the number of Iskanders.

                    I don’t know, but if there aren’t enough iskanders, then there’s a lot more. Saakashvilli is responsible for the bazaar, gives a tooth wink
                    Quote: Kars
                    Well, you don’t forget the main thing.

                    But sho write that, Yanukovych has not yet been overthrown. They sit there on maidan rolls crumple angry
                  5. Kars
                    Kars 2 December 2013 15: 08
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Honestly, I didn’t understand why Putin is to blame.

                    Well this is not surprising.
                    Quote: Kars
                    Your efforts. Who said Putin calculated everything?

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    And I, including, I also said that this is the beginning of the end of the Ukraine project. This is the end in any situation. First, chaos, and then ...

                    Can you conclude?
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Hmm, I don’t know. Actually, the prisoners are not supposed to
                    Well do not know.

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    I don’t know, but if there aren’t enough iskanders, then there’s a lot more. Saakashvilli is responsible for the bazaar, gives a tooth

                    No, I don’t agree on anything else, I said the Iskander, it means the Iskander. And you have less than 100 pieces, and you’ve more than 50 (namely missiles)
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    But sho write that, Yanukovych has not yet been overthrown. They sit there on maidan rolls crumple

                    Do not forget that you provoked me to continue the conversation.
                  6. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 15: 29
                    0
                    Quote: Kars
                    Can you conclude?

                    Yeah, Ukraine is in limbo, what will happen next, you can bet wink
                    Quote: Kars
                    . And you have less than 100 pieces, and they’ve snapped more than 50 (namely missiles)

                    Ah, well then it’s enough. I thought about 10 pieces, but it’s like that.
                    Quote: Kars
                    Do not forget that you provoked me to continue the conversation.

                    Ah, so you're leaning back from the zone from the ban, you think again banned. belay Yes, we are with you in the framework, we do not call each other's mother laughing
                  7. Kars
                    Kars 2 December 2013 15: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Yeah, Ukraine is in limbo, what will happen next, you can bet

                    What yes then yes.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Ah, well then it’s enough. I thought about 10 pieces, but it’s like that.

                    For the infantry? Not enough.

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    do not call each other's mother

                    I’ll be hopeful. I have never called my mother before.
                  8. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 17: 02
                    +1
                    Quote: Kars
                    For the infantry? Not enough.

                    Yes there is something to add.
                    Quote: Kars
                    I hadn’t called my mother before.

                    Yes, I'm so figurative hi
                  9. Kars
                    Kars 2 December 2013 17: 06
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Yes there is something to add.

                    But I except for Iskander disagree on anything else. Iskander is so iskander.
  • skullcap
    skullcap 2 December 2013 14: 17
    +5
    Quote: Kars
    I would take part in the discussion but want to talk more in military topics


    Information warfare is currently the highest form of military development. So you can get full pleasure on the topics discussed. With a clear conscience.
    1. Kars
      Kars 2 December 2013 14: 25
      +4
      Quote: kosopuz
      I am the highest form of military development. So you can have complete pleasure on the topics discussed.

      Become the local Administrator and then we'll talk.
      1. skullcap
        skullcap 3 December 2013 00: 36
        0
        Quote: Kars
        Become the local Administrator and then we'll talk.


        And before the local administrator snout did not come out?
        1. Kars
          Kars 3 December 2013 00: 41
          +4
          Quote: kosopuz
          And before the local administrator snout did not come out?

          As for the physiognomy of the face, I don’t know, but they didn’t come up with the opportunity to limit communication.
          Quote: kosopuz
          Full name:
          Group: Visitors
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 2 December 2013 20: 20
    +4
    Quote: MG42
    An interesting video about Yanukovych says his companion in the Party of Regions, Inna Bogoslovskaya, yesterday, however, she left this party like some other deputies.

    And before that, was on vacation for an extraordinary pregnancy?

    PS
    Sorry ....
    Alexander turned out to be keener - he had previously commented. Thank.
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 2 December 2013 07: 36
    14
    And the nickname the other day at the Eurosummit gave a tie. What is it for? wink
    1. slvevg
      slvevg 2 December 2013 11: 16
      +2
      so it’s a chain dog ... that’s why they gave us a European collar.
    2. Simon
      Simon 2 December 2013 12: 22
      +2
      Yeah! It will be hard, eats! laughing
    3. gych
      gych 2 December 2013 17: 13
      +1
      let the ketchup capture, so that in the dryer then not dovitsa
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 2 December 2013 17: 19
        +1
        Quote: gych
        let the ketchup capture, so that in the dryer then not dovitsa

        And he is under the gorilochka
  • Old_kapitan
    Old_kapitan 2 December 2013 07: 41
    36
    However, for a long time you can deceive only those who are glad to be deceived ...
    And there are enough of them - the maydauns on the Ukrainian land have not died out ... Yesterday I watched TV all day. Mostly razvlekuhu, but also looked at the Maidans. Himself go there to freeze the eggs, thank you, but from the outside they will be surprised at the stupidity of individual Ukrainian individuals ... The grandmother speaks. On the good - it's time to think about square meters in the nearest churchyard, and it seems she understands this, yells that she wants her children and grandchildren to live in Europe. I just want to shout: "Fool! What kind of Europe? Your grandchildren will live in Uraine, in Ukraine! And the worse you live, the longer you beat here and there. Have you forgotten 204? And to Europe - it is please, urinals and the Turks did not disassemble the toilet bowls. " The next one is a jerk of 18-20 years old. It doesn't know anything yet, hasn't done anything in life, but in the same place - away from the colonial yoke, from the Russian occupation. And to ask - what year were you born, humanoid? What do you know about THAT occupation? When I, a rural boy, entered the university and received an increased scholarship. But in order to learn a smart daughter with "nezalezhnost", I had to take loans and borrow from friends ... How do you like this occupation?
    And that is characteristic, 80-90% of the Maidan are snotty and old-fashioned. People of my age very rarely flickered: we are not up to tom toms, we are on Monday to work ...
    1. Xroft
      Xroft 2 December 2013 09: 19
      +3
      Yes people ..... being driven on western tales like flies on g ... jam recourse RIA Novosti no longer works for us (they fell after an unexpected doc attack) and many information sites, but in Europe they already say that the war for Ukraine has not been lost. Information war.
    2. slvevg
      slvevg 2 December 2013 11: 19
      -1
      Well done, wise captain. drinks
    3. skullcap
      skullcap 2 December 2013 14: 20
      +5
      Quote: Old_Kapitan
      And there are enough of them - the maydauns are not yet extinct on the Ukrainian land ...

      Without any double bottom and without any thought about joke in your direction. Honestly - a purely logical conclusion from the observations of the events in Russia and Ukraine.
      In general, I came to the conclusion that the central government moved from Kiev to Moscow, not only as a result of external historical conflicts. This was determined genetically: when the mass migration of the Russian people to the East European Plain went, the best part of the people went there, and not only the most passive, but also the most dull part remained in the Carpathian region.
      In Russia there was also a clouding of brains in 91. More precisely in Moscow, where all the trash from all over the Soviet Union was collected. However, the repeated attempts of the democrats in Russia turned into swampy swamp. The people did not lead.
      And in Ukraine, taking into account 91 of the year, the crowd is pecking at the same snag for the third time in a row. This is what
      stupid need to be?
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 04
      +5
      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
      Klitschko then where it climbs? ..

      Yes, back in 2004, he attached an orange ribbon to his underpants in a ring. Here Ukrainians have such a choice, either for orange or blue wassat
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 2 December 2013 08: 27
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, he back in 2004 attached an orange ribbon to his underpants, which is the choice of Ukrainians, either for orange or for pigeons

        Klitschko mail on 22.11.13/XNUMX/XNUMX broke. Very interesting reading. Most popular comment after posting the correspondence: "Thank you for not being Gay!"
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 39
          +4
          Quote: ATATA
          "Thanks for not being Gay!"

          But in the light of his pictures with his brother, where they are both in Adam’s costumes, but I’m not sure that it’s not GAY laughing
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 2 December 2013 11: 54
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            But in the light of his pictures with his brother, where they are both in Adam’s costumes, but I’m not sure that it’s not GAY

            Yes, the pictures are credited in certain circles. laughing
            But in the mail they did not find defamatory correspondence.
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 2 December 2013 11: 59
              +3
              Quote: ATATA
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              But in the light of his pictures with his brother, where they are both in Adam’s costumes, but I’m not sure that it’s not GAY

              Yes, the pictures are credited in certain circles. laughing
              But in the mail they did not find defamatory correspondence.

              So not shove them in the mail, so they did not find the census there.
      2. Garrin
        Garrin 2 December 2013 08: 48
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Here is a choice for Ukrainians, either for orange or for blue wassat

        Yes Nicknames, they are two in one, and orange, and blue at the same time.
      3. Simon
        Simon 2 December 2013 12: 23
        0
        What, one of two things! There is no third. laughing
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    1. ATATA
      ATATA 2 December 2013 08: 33
      11
      good The process is on.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 2 December 2013 08: 52
        +8
        Or so. Patriotic. smile
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 2 December 2013 08: 54
          +6
          Here is the same nothing for real democracy.
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 2 December 2013 08: 54
            0
            And it will turn out like this.
  • MolGro
    MolGro 2 December 2013 08: 11
    +5
    History teaches us nothing !!
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  • serg1507
    serg1507 2 December 2013 08: 23
    +7
    Deputy of the Sevastopol City Council from the PR Sergei Smolyaninov began collecting signatures under an appeal to Russian President Vladimir Putin with a request to send troops to Ukraine. The appeal was posted on the Sevastopol Veche website, newsoboz.org reports. with a link to gazeta.ua.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 38
      +2
      Quote: serg1507
      Deputy of the Sevastopol City Council from PR Sergey Smolyaninov began collecting signatures under an appeal to Russian President Vladimir Putin with a request to send troops to Ukraine

      Ohhh, and life is becoming more fun. wassat
      1. Nika
        Nika 2 December 2013 11: 09
        +3
        "More fun" - this is when "A new petition appeared on the White House website for the intervention of the US Army in the political process in Ukraine. This is the third petition on the Site in a week that concerns political processes in Ukraine." (from)
        Here it is, what would their ... nezalezhnost!
    2. MG42
      MG42 2 December 2013 08: 41
      +7
      In Sevastopol, and so is the Black Sea Fleet.
      Meanwhile, on the Maidan began to install tents yesterday. The history of 2004 is repeating itself.
      1. APES
        APES 2 December 2013 08: 53
        +2
        Quote: MG42
        2004 year history repeats itself


        then it seemed to be warmer, and since all the adversaries about our winter house broke their appetites more than once - last year Kiev was completely covered with snow - they cleaned the snow with armored vehicles ...
        Although it will be funny when they start throwing snowballs at Berkut ...
        1. MG42
          MG42 2 December 2013 09: 05
          +2
          Quote: APES
          then it seemed to be warmer, and so all the adversaries broke our appetites for our winter more than once

          How can I say photo Maidan 2004 >>
          1. APES
            APES 2 December 2013 09: 09
            0
            from November 22 2004 years to January 2005 years

            I forgot, but it was still warmer then ...... bully
            1. MG42
              MG42 2 December 2013 09: 13
              +5
              Yesterday it was plus 4 degrees.
              1. Corneli
                Corneli 2 December 2013 13: 10
                +3
                Quote: MG42
                Yesterday it was plus 4 degrees.

                It is urgent to call shamans and sorcerers, a week of rain of 1-4 degrees Celsius will save Ukraine from the Maidan) And you won’t need a golden eagle ...
              2. MG42
                MG42 2 December 2013 20: 15
                +4
                Quote: MG42
                Yesterday it was plus 4 degrees

                This is probably my only comment that no one minus today laughing
                even a simple video without sound comments reaction, okay, we will without video = who seeks will always find. Search and find! .. hi
            2. Corneli
              Corneli 2 December 2013 13: 08
              +2
              Quote: APES
              from November 22 2004 years to January 2005 years

              I forgot, but it was still warmer then ...... bully

              Come on, directly, after the "rigged" elections, when Yanyk won (2004) and, in fact, the main rallies took place for a week, on the Maidan, it was 15-20 degrees below zero.
              I remember this sincerely, because after work I met my younger colleagues who were blue (there weren’t any drunk on the Maidan, although I personally know about 10 laughing) went there to "hang out" in the evening. So I got my sight from them into that dubar.
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  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 2 December 2013 08: 26
    +5
    This maidown has already been so sickened, as I can see so already in the very language, Ukraine ce Europe hangs laughing
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  • Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 2 December 2013 08: 30
    -12 qualifying.
    People! If you feed on information from ORT, RTR, then it doesn't smell like the truth. All of Ukraine rose up against the criminal, corrupt regime of Yanukovych. The performances are peaceful. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. on the streets not hundreds, but 1mil.600 thousand. With one motto "Get out gang". The "titushki" of the regionals and the scumbags of Korchinsky arrange provocations with the aim of a bloody massacre and the introduction of an emergency. On the march to Kiev, there are police units, the Kharkiv Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, a railway station was recorded. composition with armored vehicles, armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled guns. The cowardly guarantor will not climb out of Mezhyhirya. They caught up with militia fighters. We blocked the highway with equipment and hedgehogs. Azarov rushed to Moscow, beg for something. The black-mouthed mouthpieces of the regionals, political prostitutes like Bogoslovskaya, Zhvania, and others unanimously drop party cards and run across to the protesters on the Maidan with loud statements that provocations are planned and the provocateurs are financed by the presidential administration. Putin once several times in advance, congratulated Yanukovych on the victory, and he lost. And this time he hurried. The godfather will lose with dishonor and shame. He has already gone down in history as the hetman of thieves, an illiterate jester and another Mazepa. It's time to end with the presidential states, well, historically, it is not given to us to live with hetmans and presidents, to create a parliamentary republic, where the members of parliament themselves will watch each other so that they no longer steal.
    But the whole tragedy of Ukraine is that once again the opposition is not ready and has no plans. The people are practically left to their own devices. There is no leader capable of correctly leading the people.
    And please do not get information from one source. Basically you are military people, you know what the collection, study and synthesis of data on the situation is. Analysis, conclusions, picture.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 08: 37
      12
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      . Performances are peaceful.

      This is your channel, what does ORT have to do with it? Yesterday there was a live broadcast on YouTube, everything was filmed by your own opposition. Http: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = uZtwFH4uKxk & feature = youtube_gdata
      So, no need to lie! The whole world saw golden eagles stoned.
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      "Titushki" regionals and thugs of Korchinsky arrange provocations with the aim of bloody massacre and introduction of state of emergency

      They arrived from Lvov. Listen, and your surname is not Tyagnibok, he said this yesterday.
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 2 December 2013 09: 36
        -10 qualifying.
        You On one episode do not draw conclusions. You can only pull phrases out of context. We have freedom of speech and people express their opinions. We have independent media. You stopped dreaming about it. You have a democracy, but Putin’s, one-sided. Our boor tried to copy Putin, the result on the Maidan. Crush the Maidan by force, as your supporters advise. Enter your army. And what will it be called. You, like that literary hero, see here, but I don’t see here, I hear here, but I don’t hear here. I see and hear only what I want. If a person’s opinion does not agree with yours, then he is a tynebok, a nationalist, a fascist, a Nazi.
        You saw how the golden eagle was throwing stones at their "titushki". You did not see how Poroshenko removed the rotozei from the Maidan from the "titushki" and these provocateurs rushed into a fight with the participants, taking out knives, armature. Poked Poroshenko's assistant with a knife and disappeared into the night, and the golden eagle thrashed not the provocateurs with his legs and clubs, but just the people. I'm not a nationalist. I can draw conclusions myself from what is happening, and not chew the noodles that they hang on my ears. No need to hang labels on me. You can also hang on to more than one. Cons to me, this is an indicator. That there can be no one opinion. That we are still thinking people, not biomass, what your and our rulers dream about.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 2 December 2013 09: 51
          +9
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          You can only pull phrases out of context

          Well, you’ll have a conscience, he said it live on air yesterday. There are a lot of people from Ukraine, who are you rubbing here?
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          We have independent media. You stopped dreaming about it. You have a democracy, but Putin’s, one-sided.

          God forbid us, such a democracy as in Ukraine.
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          Our boor tried to copy Putin

          Hahaha wassat
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          You saw how the golden eagle was throwing stones at their "titushki".

          Well, who else, naturally, that they were provocateurs from the authorities, but this is also a title from the authorities, or how do you understand this?Head of the Batkivshchyna party headquarters, Alexander Turchinov, calls for blocking all administrative buildings in Kiev from 6 a.m.http://news.mail.ru/inworld/ukraina/global/112/politics/15900239/ Тоже ложь или мы его не правильно поняли,вырвали слова из контекста да? wink
        2. Korben
          Korben 2 December 2013 11: 08
          -10 qualifying.
          Vrungel, I support you completely! The people stood up against Yanukovych and his gang! I watched Russian media about dispersal on the night of November 30 - provocateurs provoked law enforcement agencies and that’s it! The whole world shows atrocities, and there is only provocation or individual excerpts for the sake of one side!
          1. Captain Vrungel
            Captain Vrungel 2 December 2013 13: 16
            +1
            Korben! People on the site do not want to understand that the people of Ukraine have united in a single civil union and declared an indefinite strike not for the sake of the EU, but against Yanukovych and his corrupt gangster power. You can’t live like that. Ukraine has not yet seen such a mass performance. But for many on this site, the civil maidan against the boor and his codes is a red rag for the bull. All those who support the people of Ukraine in their speech against corrupt gangster power that are overbought or caught on compromise by Putin, automatically become Bandera, nationalists, and even tyagniboks. Time will tell who is right. But the gang of Yanukovych should be driven unambiguously. Boycott, ignore, block, but without the use of force. The demonstration of power is the lot of the weak and flawed. Romanov! There is no need to exaggerate, to see only what is profitable and to wear blinkers on people so that they do not look around, are not afraid to see what is under their own tail.
            1. Corneli
              Corneli 2 December 2013 13: 54
              10
              Quote: Captain Vrungel
              All those who support the people of Ukraine in their speech against corrupt gangster power that are overbought or caught on compromise by Putin, automatically become Bandera, nationalists, and even tyagniboks. Time will tell who is right. But the gang of Yanukovych should be driven unambiguously. Boycott, ignore, block, but without the use of force.

              All this sounds beautiful and wonderful, but what's next? ...
              And so, a non-urgent strike, blocking of the national bank, AP, KM and other structures - it will only have a "positive" effect on both the economy of our country and the hryvnia exchange rate.
              2. The resignation of villains and early elections (a year for the guys to wait broke, the more they can blow it, but a "wave"). In the budget, from somewhere came a lot of muliens for these very elections (I really have not heard about this, but does it really bother the "Revolutionaries"). Again, even if everything goes well and in a short time, the "new" government will start functioning in 3 months. Where will it take after this circus at least SOME money? I personally am at a loss in conjecture.
              3. Julia (who should be released) and Yatsenyuk have already "ruled" from 2004 to 2010 - why are they better than Yanyk? In Tyagnibok and Klitschko, as advanced economists, I hardly believe. In the Verkhovna Rada will sit the same individuals as schA 90 percent. In fact, nifiga inside the country will not change, only there will be a lot of shouting about the EU and dust in the eyes ... And in six months it will turn out that we have a default.
              So what is the meaning of the Maidan now? Those who stand there are mostly enemies themselves. The benefit of their actions is to bring the opposition to the trough and finish off, finally and so on, the breathing economy and budget. When those students and retirees stop giving pensions and scholarships, they can only blame themselves!
              1. Captain Vrungel
                Captain Vrungel 2 December 2013 15: 58
                0
                Maybe someone agrees to take off his trousers, stand in the "grandmother in the garden" pose, generously lather the scupper for feces and crawl with ready anal sex under the regional.
                Such a mass of rising people will sweep away this pakhanat sabbath. The golden eagle can't hold out on the batons for a long time, but it's scary on the bayonets. There is a high probability that the ardent love of the army and the soldiers of the Internal Troops for the "guarantor" will duplicate the Romanian events with the Janushescu under the fence.
                The cowardice of power, before the eyes. The guarantor lurked, the Council fled, the Cabinet in the catacombs from the 29th. Once in the country such a situation, they had 30 to get together and go out to the people. Now they are waiting, maybe Putin will help a dozen divisions to install Yolki on the Maidan.
                Down with this pack, living not by laws, but by concepts.
                1. Cat
                  Cat 2 December 2013 16: 23
                  +3
                  Quote: Captain Vrungel
                  The cowardice of power, before the eyes. The guarantor lurked, the Council fled, the Cabinet in the catacombs from the 29th. Once in the country such a situation, they had 30 to get together and go out to the people. Now they are waiting, maybe Putin will help a dozen divisions to install Yolki on the Maidan.
                  Down with this pack, living not by laws, but by concepts.

                  And to whom, in fact, to go out, what to talk about?
                  Those who are maydauns - they were called that for a reason, they really have brains and considerations - that ... I talked with some, they have one answer to all questions: "abroad will help us", "get the gang", and others similar truths. But to explain, at least at the level of "household economy", how the signing of the Agreement will improve our life - none of the Maydauns can, and does not want to. As well as can not explain - where and when they personally crossed with the "bandits". You, Pan Vrungel, did not answer this question in the next topic either (when you talked about the "conscious" choice of your children).
                  Because - is it sense for Yanukovych and the company to go out to these so-called "people"? Is that an extra portion of swear words addressed to you.

                  And what is most interesting: if Yanukovych foolishly signs the Agreement, and fulfills all the requirements of the EU-IMF, there will be Maidan again, with the same persons in the main roles, and with the same slogans. Only the reason will no longer be a refusal of eurointegration, but an increase in prices for communal services, a cut in salaries, etc. And of course, "evil vlada" will be guilty of this.
                  1. dm98
                    dm98 2 December 2013 17: 09
                    +4
                    Quote: Cat
                    And what is most interesting: if Yanukovych foolishly signs the Agreement, and fulfills all the requirements of the EU-IMF, there will be Maidan again, with the same persons in the main roles, and with the same slogans. Only the reason will no longer be a refusal of eurointegration, but an increase in prices for communal services, a cut in salaries, etc. And of course, "evil vlada" will be guilty of this.

                    TRUE! And it seems to me the most correct option for Yanukovych at the moment. This will stop the butch, and also after a year or two sober Ukrainians.
                    In all other cases - a revolution! Then, too, there will be a revolution ...... but then, and Yanyk will gain time and maybe not allow this revolution, especially since he is not used to turning his ass.
                    And so Putin correctly said that we will meet with Ukraine anyway!
                    on my own I will add that this will happen either now .... but then "moscow" will always be to blame for everything, or in 2-3 years, but then the same "moscow and li" will be brothers
                    1. andranick
                      andranick 2 December 2013 17: 50
                      -2
                      Frantically plyusuyu!
                2. stranik72
                  stranik72 2 December 2013 21: 25
                  +1
                  "There is a high probability that the ardent love of the army and the soldiers of the Internal Troops for the" guarantor "will duplicate the Romanian events with the Janushescu under the fence."
                  And you turn out to be an uncle and the truth is not adequate, without trial and investigation, after which the judge committed suicide. Do not even dream rather like you and your brothers Bandera will rot in the caches and the people of Ukraine will figure out who this "pakhan's Sabbath" really is. As for Putin and Russia, I think they will sort it out without us.
                3. Genera
                  Genera 3 December 2013 08: 27
                  0
                  And who will you put after, Klitschko or what? This and without extras will scatter you from the new Maidan will, the benefit of his health allows. And he will still have time to swing his German passport, a la, but to me ... I'm a German citizen.
            2. Genera
              Genera 3 December 2013 08: 21
              0
              Again, not certainty. And where were you before when Yanuk sang on the last Maidan. It turns out from what went to and came. Makes me think.....
        3. JonnyT
          JonnyT 2 December 2013 11: 58
          12
          well ... well, it’s a golden eagle that put a crowbar and picked out stones from the sidewalks ....... and another .... the supplies for five minutes to the militants are very good, there are unloading and gas, most likely there are weapons , but there was still no team to use ..... and the action was skillfully coordinated .... it’s clear that the hooligans were trained, each link has its own commander, long and carefully - it doesn’t look like popular anger ...... but it’s very similar to a well-planned, prepared action! Poland pays, the United States at the embassy gives out instructions ...... is this popular discontent? ..... Yanukovych is mu..lo, and his thieves’s power is corrupt ..... well, and Poland from the USA, and where does it?

          This is not the opposition, this is not the people's will, this is not the people's anger! These are scumbags! Bought by the West and the USA, grown by Natsik. For comparison, in Syria, too, the popular will was? Yanukovych thief, Assad is a bloody dictator ???

          Today they indulge in gas sprays and stones, and tomorrow they get indignant at the guns ...... it’s better today to cut their heads with batons than to bury tomorrow babies nailed to the trees for tongues in the name of free Ukraine
          1. Cherdak
            Cherdak 2 December 2013 13: 14
            +1
            Quote: JonnyT
            The United States at the embassy distributes its instructions ...


            The website of the White House has already posted 11 petitions calling on the United States to intervene in the situation in Ukraine. Most of them appeared in the last few days.
        4. FREGATENKAPITAN
          FREGATENKAPITAN 2 December 2013 12: 06
          +3
          They threw stones with pebbles ..... yes svo.lo chi and provocateurs ... first they throw stones at Berkut, then they shout from their foreheads _ Democracy is in danger ......... Yes, it's time you already understand that in the geyrope will not be freebie even more so, but Yanukovych, Timoshka, Putin are the same for everyone ,,,,,,, But there is, there is something other than rulers and the thieves of the supreme ......... Eyes open gentlemen comrades
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        6. Simon
          Simon 2 December 2013 12: 36
          +2
          There is no independent media! The one who pays calls the tune. And you can come up with any name. Everything "independent" comes to us from beyond the hillock. On the fence the same is written, and instead of a hole - bitches.
        7. Stanislas
          Stanislas 2 December 2013 23: 53
          0
          You saw how the golden eagle was throwing stones at their "titushki".
          Have you seen how the Maydauns were soaked by their "titushki". Do you believe us? - No! - Well, in vain, After all, Vrungel never lies! It is clear. Chorus: Soviet circus and all in orange shorts ...
        8. Genera
          Genera 3 December 2013 08: 19
          0
          You then decide why you went on the Maidan. To overthrow Yanuka or to join the EU. And it turns out, and you're still trying to sit on two chairs.
    2. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 2 December 2013 09: 09
      10
      I eat exclusively the most honest 5 channel, Pogue 1-th national, STB, NTN. So don’t trick your grandmother here, Mr. Vrungel.
    3. Xroft
      Xroft 2 December 2013 09: 25
      +7
      So hang noodles on ears. Provocateur. Then 20-year-old fools seize the city hall buildings and get a real term or worse.
    4. Gecko
      Gecko 2 December 2013 09: 44
      16
      Do you really consider us rogue? We have more than 100 channels for your information in Russia, including Euronews, and the Internet is everywhere, even in Siberia :-) And believe me, there is no more censorship, and no less freedom of speech than in Ukraine.
      1. Old_kapitan
        Old_kapitan 2 December 2013 09: 58
        12
        And believe censorship no more, and freedom of speech no less than in Ukraine.
        In addition, the Internet allows you to read various sources and include your own brains.
    5. APES
      APES 2 December 2013 10: 08
      11
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      not hundreds on the streets, but 1 mil. 600 thousand


      The population of Kiev as of 1.07.2013: 2 847 310 people
      as of the census of 2010 of the year is 2 628 800 people

      those. every second? Or did everyone come from Europe?
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    7. Simon
      Simon 2 December 2013 12: 27
      +2
      And that Yushchenko was not criminal? belay recourse
    8. dm98
      dm98 2 December 2013 12: 53
      +4
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      People! If you eat information from ORT, RTR then it is true and does not smell close. All Ukraine rose against the criminal, corrupt regime of Yanukovych. Performances are peaceful.


      You know, I watched one of your channels for 4 hours yesterday, as I remember, I broadcast through YouTube.
      They just made direct broadcasts from Kiev, interviewed people on the street .... in general, only information, did not draw any conclusions.
      Then he watched the news on ORT and RTR, there was just a Sunday evening with Soloviev. So here ..... Russian channels are telling the truth! I was convinced of this!

      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. on the streets not hundreds, but 1mil.600 thousand. With one motto "Get out gang".


      Yeah, it’s not so, but what about the capture of the building of the trade unions in which your trinity arranged the headquarters? By the way, on the same kaknalu they made a direct inclusion when one of this trinity (the one who has a bald shag in glasses) voiced the requirements, the main requirement was the signing of the association with the EU !!!

      So do not watch Ukrainian state channels, it’s better to watch ORT and RTR, there is more truth
    9. Corneli
      Corneli 2 December 2013 13: 24
      +6
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      People! If you eat information from ORT, RTR then it is true and does not smell close.

      Chu, I watched yesterday almost the whole day non-stop opposition stream from YouTube. So, about the info you wrote below:
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      All Ukraine rose against the criminal, corrupt regime of Yanukovych.

      Well, yes, only in Kiev about 100 thousand zapadentsev brought. In most parts of Ukraine, yesterday, rallies were from 150 (Crimea) to 2 thousand people (Zhytomer). At 22.00 in Kharkov, for example, there was NOT ONE protester in the square. We hung out either in Kiev (where they almost brought everyone) or Ternopil, Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk (there were 10 thousand each)
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. on the streets are not hundreds, but 1 mil. 600 thousand

      According to him, there were 40 thousand.) The fantastic figure of 1,6 million (which would not physically fit into the city center) was taken from "an unknown source (anonymous) who spied this figure in the reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for internal use") What a terrible infa, as well as the source.
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      Peaceful Performances

      The Department of Health of the Kyiv City State Administration informed that as of 21.00 p.m., 112 injured protesters, taking place today in the center of the capital, turned to doctors of emergency medical teams. Of these, 42 were hospitalized.
      Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, press service: “The number of hospitalized law enforcement officers has so far amounted to 53 people. In total, almost 120 employees of the internal affairs bodies have already requested help »

      And the costumes ala Robocop did not help, from the "peaceful" demonstrators.
    10. Corneli
      Corneli 2 December 2013 13: 40
      +7
      Continued ...
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      With one motto "Get out gang". The "titushki" of the regionals and the scumbags of Korchinsky arrange provocations with the aim of a bloody massacre and the introduction of an emergency.

      For example, who broke the house of trade unions and the Kyiv City State Administration (in the same outfits as the "titushki") and why Tyagnibok said that it was "Svoboda" that seized them? We watched the filming and interviews with the AP, there were a lot of people, without any masks, who specifically said who they were and why they were storming (and these were not Korchinsky's fighters at all, and there were hundreds of them) And in general, how many "provocateurs" there were - 300 declared, a thousand , 2 thousand? In theory, after 4 hours of assault on the accident, they were supposed to end, but who then stormed the Lenin monument?
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      On the march to Kiev there are police units, the Kharkov Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, railway composition with armored vehicles BTR, BMP, self-propelled guns.

      LOL. On the same opposition stream, the academy and all the main railway control points near Kiev were checked at 11 o'clock, and none of the above was found!) (Although they were looking for it very much). We checked the airports where, according to the same "reliable data," the Russian "Vityaz" landed and a couple of other places where the Russian OMON, tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were supposed to be laughing The sensation, however, also did not work (apparently the Russian troops were very skillfully hiding) fellow
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      A cowardly guarantor does not come out from Mezhyhirya. Caught up with police militants. They blocked the highway with equipment and hedgehogs.

      He seemed to be standard in the evenings in the evenings (if it was Kiev in the afternoon), I don’t see anything surprising in this. Oh yeah, I watched again the video of the opposition from the highway ... HERE !!!! !!!! EQUIPMENT !!! ??? (this is a pair of bogdans and 2 traffic police cars? lol ) And the notorious "militia militants" ... well, there were 20 differently dressed mvdeshniks showed there, which is logical these "militants" are the regional militia)))
      Then comment on the broke, there are some emotions ... but according to your "facts" I kind of went through.
  • os9165
    os9165 2 December 2013 08: 31
    +3
    The stupidity of the government of Ukraine has crossed all permissible limits. Here you are not here, Ukraine is not Russia. I am sincerely convinced that students were beaten specially by order with the connivance of all politicians without exception, each of them pursued only his own selfish interests. Everything is classic. Otto von Bismarck “Revolutions are prepared by geniuses, romantics are made, and villains are used as fruits.” To consider Ukrainians and Russians as one people is an illusion. It is naive to think that Ukraine, having received help from Russia, which its elites will devour, and the right to vote in Eurasian integration institutions, will cease to look for a door with the words "exit". Here you need to look at our union well and think about yourself and your people.
    1. dm98
      dm98 2 December 2013 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: os9165
      I am sincerely convinced that students were beaten specially by order with the connivance of all politicians without exception, each of them pursued only his own selfish interests.


      But what difference does it mean, especially if they seize buildings, run around the street with clubs, what to do with them?
      You don’t understand what’s going on at all? You have a revolution smoothly flowing into a civil war, trying to crank out! And here you are protecting 20 year old students. By the way, how long does it take to be an idiot to go to a rally where bandits with clubs stand, seize buildings ..... and then get in the face to yell that the cops are wrong and act on order!?
      1. os9165
        os9165 2 December 2013 20: 45
        +2
        Let me remind you that at night from Friday to Saturday, two hundred people who were beaten by the "golden eagle" rushed to the Mikhailovsky Monastery for protection. So, when people began to knock on the gates of the monastery, the third person in the church hierarchy made the decision to let them in. Just the abbot was not at that moment. The monks did not wait for the highest will, people were immediately admitted. They immediately woke up the fraternity, which warmed tea, provided first aid (by the way, ambulances came several times to Mikhailovskaya for the wounded). Hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets the next day because it was obvious to them that the police should not beat unarmed citizens. This is important, not an association agreement. Serious bloody clashes in Ukraine were not all years of independence. Including because of this, at the very least, they endured Ukrainian politicians.
  • Garrin
    Garrin 2 December 2013 08: 38
    14
    Quote: MG42
    In addition, the journalist managed to shoot a unique video on the phone as a special forces golden eagle right next to the presidential administration <work> as he did it there is in detail

    I am surprised that it is so tender and affectionate even after they were crushed by a bulldozer, thrown with cobblestones and "Molotov cocktails". am
    1. MG42
      MG42 6 December 2013 00: 09
      +1
      Quote: Garrin
      I am surprised that it is so gentle and affectionate and this, after they were crushed by a bulldozer, was thrown with cobblestones

      For statistics >> one still got more than others, if you count how many hits he received per minute of the video hitting the distribution, this is what got into the lens of course, in general, Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Zakharchenko was summoned tomorrow to the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine to give explanations.
      There is also a lot of other news, for example, the golden eagle today celebrates its 25th anniversary, the people's deputies decided to congratulate him immediately with 2 bills on dissolution.
      All the talks of the special forces during the dispersal of the Maidan got on the network, apparently they leaked their own, anyone can listen to it.
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  • Keeper
    Keeper 2 December 2013 08: 39
    +9
    Unfortunately, the fate of Ukraine was decided in America, and I guess in what way!
    The memory of Ukrainian traitors has taken root in Russia for a long time (and to a greater extent it is not very important that the media, films about the war, in which they talked about these "traitors to the motherland") contributed to this. But the paradox, there is Lviv - an absolutely nationalized subject, who boils for anyone, and even if you beat "Muscovite" - so even more so! ((
    My feeling is that America has already paid for the Lviv nationalists so that they "pile up to a heap" ...
    1. APES
      APES 2 December 2013 11: 18
      +1
      Quote: Keeper
      Unfortunately, the fate of Ukraine decided in America


      it’s not so, now everything is decided by Putin, they wrote in Time, in Odessa and Donetsk they confirmed, in Kiev they did not understand yet
      1. dm98
        dm98 2 December 2013 13: 03
        +4
        Quote: APES
        it’s not so, now everything is decided by Putin, they wrote in Time, in Odessa and Donetsk they confirmed, in Kiev they did not understand yet

        Lord ....... yes, you already leave me behind Russia and Putin, what makes you so hot? They told you to figure it out yourself!
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  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 December 2013 08: 45
    +2
    The impudence of today's democratic lies is striking, especially after the “Snowden case” and “Assange”, secret CIA prisons, financial frauds of the largest Western banks and humanitarian bombing of many countries that have improved international law and the right to life of millions of people.


    And to them, shit-democrats, everything is one and the same as water from a goose. request
  • pensioner
    pensioner 2 December 2013 08: 47
    +5
    Thanks Victor!
    The main European and democratic value of “Europe”, along with the everlasting egoism and new-fangled homosexuality, continues to be the image of Russia as an “empire of evil”, which again began to be lovingly recreated at the Euro Summit in Vilnius. This is the cornerstone value on which all European democracy-demagogy rests, under the control of bureaucrats from Brussels.
    Indeed: on all sorts of political issues, the same Germans with the British speak through the lips, but when it comes to Russia, a rare unity is observed! And all sorts of sprats and gypsies out there are allowed to blather only in this topic.
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 2 December 2013 08: 58
    +2
    Yanukovych has forgotten the simple truth: "You cannot constantly deceive the whole people"! Sooner or later, this leads to revolutions, coups, uprisings, which is not good either for the people themselves or for the country as a whole! And the fault lies entirely with the leadership!
    Now everything depends on the opposition leaders, on their wisdom and foresight! And almost nothing depends on the president and the prime minister!
    But Ukraine has already realized that it is possible to defeat a gang of crooks and to cope in the future with the problems of building a just society!
    The people are the source of power, and today they do not want to see more crooks and thieves in the country's leadership!
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 2 December 2013 09: 13
      +3
      Janek did not forget anything and the people did not understand anything (they do not want to see, but who would have done it), and Appazicia is our "swamp". Let's look at the elections.
    2. IS-80
      IS-80 2 December 2013 11: 02
      +3
      Quote: goldfinger
      Now everything depends on the opposition leaders, on their wisdom and foresight! And almost nothing depends on the president and the prime minister!


      The wisdom and foresight of the fascists, hypocrites and traitors? Yes, they will bring a lot of happiness to Ukraine.

      Quote: goldfinger
      But Ukraine has already realized that it is possible to defeat a gang of crooks and to cope in the future with the problems of building a just society!


      If everything were so simple, then on the whole planet there would be no wars, no hunger, no poverty.
    3. fzr1000
      fzr1000 2 December 2013 11: 16
      +1
      The "people" have already once brought the pockmarked to power. And what? Now "boxer", or some other "talent" will come to power. And he will live even "better".
    4. Fin
      Fin 2 December 2013 11: 30
      +4
      Quote: goldfinger
      But Ukraine has already realized that it is possible to defeat a gang of crooks and to cope in the future with the problems of building a just society!

      So once already managed. And 5 years they lived in a fair society, without crooks? Forward again on the same rake?
    5. washi
      washi 2 December 2013 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: goldfinger

      Now everything depends on the opposition leaders, on their wisdom and foresight! And almost nothing depends on the president and the prime minister!

      You would flip through Ukrainian sites. There, even on the nationalist, these "leaders" have an extremely negative opinion
    6. Platov
      Platov 2 December 2013 12: 03
      +4
      The outskirts did not understand anything if they went to the Maidan. But the fact that someone else’s hands always seem to have more pie, and all this in their blood with mother’s milk, that’s what they proved.
  • Sanyht
    Sanyht 2 December 2013 08: 59
    12
    Ukraine is the development of the Fritz from the First World War ... and now: the continuation of the plan of Dallas and the CIA to destroy the Slavs !!! and no one is protecting the people from these clouds of traitors, traitors and murderers !!! all the regimes in Ukraine are thieves and those that were the current countries climbing to the trough.
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  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 2 December 2013 09: 06
    +9
    It can be seen that most of the extras are old men, loafers and jerks ...... but the fighters are thugs prepared by the Natsiks ....... they provoke clashes ..... I am surprised by the position of the Ukrainian authorities, why are they tough do not prisyat this bl ... in? self-evident
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 2 December 2013 09: 10
    +4
    Unfortunately, recent events convincingly show that Ukraine is a de facto colony of the European Union. The Ukrainian opposition, supported by an absolute majority of the media, is ready to comply with any order from Brussels. Most citizens with completely brainwashed are ready to sell a dash of soul for a coveted visa-free regime with the EU.
    The authorities are also controlled by the EU and cannot even defend themselves. Their only difference from the opposition is that they seek to sell the remnants of Ukraine’s economic and political independence a bit more expensive.
    Under these conditions, the conscious working people of Ukraine face the task of waging a national liberation struggle. The task is complicated by the fact that in Ukraine there are currently no political forces capable of waging it.
    The KPU is as impotent as our KPRF and only exploits the "brand" - the Communists.
    Russia, however, completely withdrew from Ukraine; there are no really significant pro-Russian forces in Ukraine.
    The current forecast for Ukraine is extremely unfavorable - "Gauleiter" Yanukovych, sick of everyone, will be replaced, and most likely before the 2015 elections, Ukraine will sign an association with the EU on the most enslaving terms.
    1. Ljubomir
      Ljubomir 2 December 2013 09: 57
      +1
      Ukraine will sign an association with the EU on the most enslaving terms

      They impoverish themselves more quickly, they will be asked quicker. Only in no case will there be any force influences, even at the request of the people. Only after NATO (Poland and Romania).
      1. IS-80
        IS-80 2 December 2013 11: 13
        +2
        Quote: Lubomyr
        They impoverish themselves more quickly, they will be asked quicker. Only in no case will there be any force influences, even at the request of the people. Only after NATO (Poland and Romania).


        Are you apparently inspired by the prospect of restoring everything from scratch that will finally fall apart in Ukraine? We have not so much money and not so few problems besides this.
        1. Ljubomir
          Ljubomir 2 December 2013 11: 29
          +4
          Quote: IS-80
          Are you apparently inspired by the prospect of restoring everything from scratch that will finally fall apart in Ukraine?

          Do you know the saying, "you can't be cute by force"? People should get the REFERENDUM TO BE CARRIED OUT (preferably separately by regions). Let them answer for their own destiny.
      2. Odysseus
        Odysseus 2 December 2013 12: 06
        +2
        Quote: Lubomyr
        Faster impoverished, faster asked back.

        Hmm, but I'm not sure about that at all. The dominant ideology in Ukraine is not nationalism or patriotism at all, as practice shows, their "independence" Ukrainians are ready to give up to the European Union and also pay extra for this. The dominant ideology there is Russophobia.
        You see, Ukraine will sign an agreement with the EU, an economic catastrophe will erupt (however, it is already possible as a result of plunging the country into chaos), and not Ukrainians will be appointed guilty of poverty and mass emigration, and even more so not the EU. .
        Without the formation of real pro-Russian forces, they will not be asked anywhere back.
        1. Ljubomir
          Ljubomir 2 December 2013 13: 13
          +4
          Quote: Odyssey
          The dominant ideology in Ukraine is not nationalism or patriotism at all - as practice shows, their "independence" Ukrainians are ready to give up to the European Union and also pay extra at the same time. The dominant ideology there is Russophobia.

          +
          Ukraine cannot exist being pro-Russian. The attraction is too strong. Therefore, the idea of ​​a referendum on separating the left bank and the south from Ukraine into Russia without granting a republican status needs to be pushed through. And the Russophobian right bank, let another kettlebell rest on Germany’s neck.
          and not Ukrainians will be appointed guilty of poverty and mass emigration, and especially not the EU. In all, Russians will again be to blame

          Kars has already said that we are guilty that they have power for them. what
  • ed65b
    ed65b 2 December 2013 09: 11
    +6
    And what did they want for many years people were hammered about paradise in Europe, and then when he turned out to be so close they handed back? Looked like an interview with protesters. they really believe that Yanukovych did not let Ukraine into Europe and tore it from the benefits of civilization. Old people are sure that the European Union will raise their pensions with an average age that will give them investments and build factories, youth, everything is clear there, work in the West, study and visa-free entry into the European Union. This confidence is driven into the cerebral cortex by people, so they rebel. Who explained to them something else? Industrialists and the eastern regions behave extremely passively, although they primarily whistle. And who rebels, zapadentsy.
  • TAIM
    TAIM 2 December 2013 09: 23
    +4
    if the councils of people's deputies of the South-East of Ukraine call on Putin to help. in my opinion, it is worth considering this option to our president. the bulk of the Russians there.
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  • Jarilo
    Jarilo 2 December 2013 09: 29
    +3
    Ukraine is now in a fever, but healthy forces must prevail. There was already the experience of the Orange Revolution, immunity had to be developed. Demons should not come to power, everyone will be bad. I think the church should intervene. You can’t go into direct confrontation, this is rejection. It is necessary to separate, disperse, remove the effect of the crowd, this madness in which victims will necessarily arise. Those who organize these Maidan, I think, understand this and consciously make these sacrifices in order to achieve their goals. In the future, they will make great sacrifices.
  • mitya24
    mitya24 2 December 2013 09: 33
    +2
    Too zapadenskaya bastard is raw to take up arms. there will be no civil war there. to rest on the Maidan and to organize fascist marches is another matter. And it's time for our leaders to think about the status of Crimea. Catch up with more black vests and in the case of the slightest kipish make 84 region of the Russian Federation - the Crimean Republic.
    1. Gecko
      Gecko 2 December 2013 09: 50
      +4
      About how Khrushchev gave Ukraine the Crimea, everyone remembers, and the fact that Leninin gave even larger territories to Ukraine - Novorossia?
  • Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 2 December 2013 09: 35
    +3
    Yes, everything is proceeding normally and predictably, not 2004, in the yard. For the military it is to let the enemy get as close as possible to light up all of its members and at the right time the ambush regiment will document everything with the overlapping financial accounts, documentation of foreign accommodation and sending agents of foreign influence to kitsch. get deeper, cause more material damage.
  • bubla5
    bubla5 2 December 2013 09: 46
    +2
    All right, the people there, their slow-witted deputies, and here the leaders of the Bolsheviks and the Polatsk blinch of the remnants, and even the paid students from Europe, could come to Ukraine to warm up the atmosphere. So I think everything goes to the section of blue-yellow into three parts -Krim Muslims , Bendera and the rest of the current government
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 2 December 2013 09: 47
    -21 qualifying.
    Neighbor Belarus.
    The main thing is that the footcloths in the Russian media (1 TV channel) did not report that the Crimean Tatars fully supported European integration and sent their "mujahideen" to Kiev to help the Maidan.
    And Eastern Ukraine is also divided in half, where 30% support European integration.
    So the Kremlin dreamers would be better to wipe their drool. Ukraine will not fall apart. But the Russian Federation can quite do this for itself, while playing the game of money and trashing your money, putting out revolutionary fires in foreign countries.
    1. Gecko
      Gecko 2 December 2013 09: 52
      10
      You, my friend, are also going to work in Europe?
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      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 2 December 2013 10: 57
        +5
        You know how to shoot personally. It seems to me that the shooter has not grown. And the whistle of bullets was not heard, without water and food in the mud and sweat did not sit. a friend was not taken out on a hump. Ask those who passed it. They will send you to a known address. Shaking arms, the last thing. Protected and armed fight, and innocent, peaceful, unarmed, unprotected ginshins, children, weak and miserable, perish.
      2. In the book
        In the book 2 December 2013 11: 38
        +3
        Quote: bubla5
        Nothing, soon the time will come

        To hunt?
        You cannot be called smart.
      3. Korben
        Korben 2 December 2013 12: 10
        +5
        In his sandbox and only toy soldiers!
      4. goldfinger
        goldfinger 2 December 2013 14: 36
        +5
        Quote: bubla5
        Nothing will come soon, we’ll shoot, history repeats itself, time to fight, troops stagnated
        Neighbor Belarus.
        In! Another (censored) -hero was found! Everything will not be fought! I decided to pin the third camputar star on the camputar shoulder strap! In the real army, most likely you did not serve, you are our stagnant! In a dream, he probably served in the cavalry. Usually they talk about a horse - it's stagnant! Going for a shooter? How would you, unknown militarist friend, this Wishlist was not torn off at the root! And they didn't put the shooter in (deleted by the censor). First, before you blurt out something - strain your brain gyrus, and ... be silent, "hero of war and peaceful everyday life!"
      5. Genera
        Genera 3 December 2013 08: 36
        0
        Does the past tense make you happy? I can add: -She oddly enough will repeat again, as they drove everyone, demons from the Russian land, so we will drive.
    3. fzr1000
      fzr1000 2 December 2013 11: 19
      +1
      Go to Ukraine and fraternize with the Tatar Euromojahideen. At the same time, they will do a circumcision for you, pro-European "dreamer".
      1. goldfinger
        goldfinger 2 December 2013 15: 49
        -2
        Neighbor Belarus.
        Are you me, half-respected? In which gateway of cultures-cultures have you studied? Although, maybe this is your current trend, profitable? And so, mind you, blatNot, I don’t accept such rudeness.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 2 December 2013 17: 26
          -3
          Go-go, to the Crimean Mujahideen, they will teach you Europe and Allah to love, in short, learn Arabic, it will come in handy in Europe.
        2. fzr1000
          fzr1000 2 December 2013 17: 33
          -3
          I tell you, go learn, and not put "minuses". Ali, don't you understand?
    4. Genera
      Genera 3 December 2013 08: 32
      -3
      And you have a campaign bile through my mouth climbs, well, with such Old Man where horrible bleh .. you will not, well, okay, let’s here, you don’t stain anyone.
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  • twister
    twister 2 December 2013 09: 52
    +7
    Ukraine as a prostitute, and here and there everything wants and wants !!! But alas, not there! Putin with all this mess just laughs !!! Russia will win! A fat eat yourself!
    1. andranick
      andranick 2 December 2013 11: 16
      +6
      Do not confuse the power of Ukraine, and its people, which is also divided by contradictions into two camps. As a prostitute, it is precisely the authorities of Ukraine. It is to the state of Ukraine that I have a negative. The people (as always) are bargaining pawns in this foul game, the subject of manipulation by higher forces (internal and external state and supranational structures). I sympathize with the people, both one and the other half. Everyone seeks happiness in their own way, only paths in different directions. Alas.
    2. In the book