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Baltic Fleet will bring back the legendary Bison

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Baltic Fleet will bring back the legendary Bison

In Kaliningrad, the repair of the world's largest hovercraft project 12322 "Bison" is being completed.


Such ships in service with the Baltic fleet two - "Eugene Kocheshkov" and "Mordovia". The latter participated in recent international exercises Zapad-2013 in the Kaliningrad Region (Belarusian guardsmen landed on it on the unequipped Baltic coast).

"Yevgeny Kocheshkov" is at the Yantar Baltic Shipbuilding Plant, where specialists carry out repairs on propellers, fuel tanks and the bottom, the information department of the Baltic Sea Fleet's press service informs.

Also, shipbuilders will install a new flexible fence, the so-called "skirt" of the amphibious ship, under which the airbag is created.

It is planned that the plant workers will complete the repair by the end of this year, after which the ship will return to its permanent location - in Baltiysk, and after passing a number of course tasks, it will begin to perform combat training activities.

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The 12322 Zubr small airborne amphibious assault ship is designed to receive naval assault forces with combat equipment from equipped or non-equipped shorelines, transport by sea, land on the enemy’s coast and fire support for airborne troops. Due to the design features of the air cushion, it can move on the ground, bypassing small obstacles (ditches and trenches) and minefields, move through the swamps and land troops in the depths of the enemy's defenses. For MDKVP "Bison" is available for landing assault troops up to 70 percent of the total length of the coastline of the seas and oceans of the world.
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  1. Migari
    Migari 29 November 2013 11: 17
    16
    Thanks for good news.
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 29 November 2013 11: 19
      21
      It is a pity that no new ones are expected ...
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 29 November 2013 11: 54
        18
        Here the old ones would not be recognized as "too expensive and ineffective" and would not have been cut into scrap metal ...
        Recently, such thoughts are increasingly coming ...
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 November 2013 13: 12
          +1
          Quote: klimpopov
          Here the old ones would not be recognized as "too expensive and ineffective" and would not have been cut into scrap metal ...
          Recently, such thoughts are increasingly coming ..


          The lobbyists of the mattress need to justify the purchase of the Mistrals. And the fact that the Bison is returning is a good sign.
      2. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 29 November 2013 12: 08
        +2
        ShturmKGB
        It is a pity that no new ones are expected ...

        And what is stopping you?
        1. knn54
          knn54 29 November 2013 13: 39
          +6
          -Vovka Levka: what's stopping you?
          Not WHAT, but KTO. We and they have "scrap metal sellers" rule.
        2. Deniska
          Deniska 4 December 2013 18: 18
          0
          The brains of Moscow Region and the lack of professionals at the state defense order.
      3. Russ69
        Russ69 29 November 2013 13: 26
        +3
        ShturmKGB
        It is a pity that no new ones are expected ...

        At the last marine salon in St. Petersburg. MoD stated that it plans to purchase 4 pieces. But the timing did not say ...
      4. lucidlook
        lucidlook 29 November 2013 16: 00
        +2
        The ship, of course, is excellent - 60 knots, 500 paratroopers or 3 tanks. Own weapons. Wow But production in the Russian Federation has been curtailed. But deployed to / in Ukraine, including for our Chinese friends.

        Here he is, handsome, in the port of Guangzhou:


        Well, what do the Chinese do after they receive a workable model of military equipment - we all know well.

        It seems that in the Russian Federation they are going to (only going to) release a similar one, only of smaller sizes, so that a pair can get into Mistral. We will see...
        1. alone
          alone 29 November 2013 20: 47
          +1
          Quote: lucidlook
          Well, what do the Chinese do after they receive a workable model of military equipment - we all know well.


          disassemble to a screw and begin to copy on a breathtaking scale. like 2x2 = 4
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          1. smile
            smile 29 November 2013 22: 57
            +5
            vkrav
            Excuse me, but who are "kakly"?
            And why did you say that word?
            Do not distinguish their badarlogs from normal Ukrainians?
            Craving to offend everyone?
            What for?
            Or did they take the woman away from you? If they took away - then of course I agree - since you, such a good one, the Ukrainians took the woman away, then the whole Ukraine is inhabited by bad demons, who else.
            1. vkrav
              vkrav 29 November 2013 23: 24
              -3
              Quote: smile
              from normal Ukrainians

              Excuse me, but only "normal Ukrainians" somehow do not come across ... and those who call themselves so proudly - mostly well, gays, your mother censorship, and thieves (this is very putting it mildly) ... -minimum censorship, the rest are generally unwritten ... Look what the "Ukrainians" have done to Ukraine in twenty years, and then be offended ...
              1. verdictum
                verdictum 30 November 2013 00: 17
                +8
                Feodosia is a Russian city. I myself am from Feodosia and it is unpleasant for me that people who do not understand the situation call us either Ukrainians or Ukrainians. 80% of Russians officially live in Feodosia.
              2. Valentine
                Valentine 30 November 2013 01: 24
                0
                Like a woman was taken away ...
              3. smile
                smile 30 November 2013 13: 47
                +2
                vkrav
                Ukrainians with Ukraine did what we successfully did with Russia from 91 to 2000 ... what should we be called? who are we after that?
                In general, you are mistaken. I can’t imagine where to live in order to meet only a few Ukrainians and all the bad ... in the zone or what?
      5. vlrosch
        vlrosch 29 November 2013 16: 52
        +3
        Daneg net. Gone to Chechnya.
        1. Deniska
          Deniska 4 December 2013 18: 31
          0
          Yes, instead of "the heart of Chechnya" I think it would be nice to equip fleets with bison ... And this is not to mention the "Grozny City", etc.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 29 November 2013 19: 25
      +4
      Here's a video on the topic (pleasantly surprised by the quality) fellow

      1. smile
        smile 29 November 2013 23: 01
        +1
        And Us Rat
        Video is good ... but you should have seen the landing ... and heard ... ochucheniya - indescribable. :))) He makes a lasting impression live. If I were an adversary defending the coast, I would run away fuck ... SCARY! :))))
      2. wk-083
        wk-083 30 November 2013 01: 38
        0
        The video is impressive! Thank you +.
  2. svp67
    svp67 29 November 2013 11: 25
    +9
    In Kaliningrad, the repair of the world's largest hovercraft project 12322 "Bison" is being completed.
    and at this time in China, on the basis of documents and a sample received from Ukraine, dozens of his "sisterships" are being made
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 29 November 2013 11: 29
      12
      Quote-In Kaliningrad, the repair of the world's largest hovercraft, project 12322 Zubr, is nearing completion.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2013 05: 39
        +1
        fragment where the crew prays, killed!
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 30 November 2013 10: 31
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          fragment where the crew prays, killed!

          And what's so surprising? Especially killing?
    2. avg
      avg 29 November 2013 12: 18
      18
      Quote: svp67
      and at this time in China, on the basis of documents and a sample received from Ukraine, dozens of his "sisterships" are being made

      What a dunce minus. Or really don't like it. And it is such that just a couple of months ago the Feodosia firm "More" completed the transfer to China of two ready-made "Zubrs" and a set of documentation without approval from the "Almaz" Central Marine Design Bureau.
      1. mountain
        mountain 29 November 2013 14: 42
        +4
        What a dunce minus. Or really don't like it. And it is such that just a couple of months ago the Feodosia firm "More" completed the transfer to China of two ready-made "Zubrs" and a set of documentation without approval from the "Almaz" Central Marine Design Bureau.
        I confirm, unfortunately this is true, TRANSFER.
        And what we are developing, a new project, they also wrote.
    3. cdrt
      cdrt 29 November 2013 14: 53
      -5
      Quote: svp67
      In Kaliningrad, the repair of the world's largest hovercraft project 12322 "Bison" is being completed.
      and at this time in China, on the basis of documents and a sample received from Ukraine, dozens of his "sisterships" are being made


      Well, let them do it - it’s not against the same (purely by geographical conditions).

      Well ... these are not his sisterships, but the achievements of Ukrainian shipbuilding completely "unlike" the Bison laughing
      1. DimychDV
        DimychDV 30 November 2013 09: 45
        0
        Yes, there will be 6 () in two rows) engines and a half times less power and a hold for 1000 paratroopers or 5 tanks. And the cutting steel will be titanium. And zirconia turbine blades. and tires from Malaysia. And the guns of native Chinese calibers. in general, nothing in common.
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    5. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 29 November 2013 19: 32
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      and at this time in China, on the basis of documents and a sample received from Ukraine, dozens of his "sisterships" are being made


      And this is not even a joke ... they are already boasting.

  3. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 29 November 2013 11: 37
    0
    It’s good that they complete ... and he alone ... (((And the sense of him alone (((
    1. Algor73
      Algor73 29 November 2013 11: 46
      0
      It may not be of much use to waging war, but two that are available are quite enough to maintain training and practical experience. The main thing is that there is an experience of use. If, God forbid, have to, then they will always have time to build, having mobilized other enterprises and funds.
      1. rsnv
        rsnv 29 November 2013 14: 08
        0
        Quote: Algor73
        If, God forbid, have to, then they will always have time to build, having mobilized other enterprises and funds.

        How simple it is for you.

        Quote: Algor73
        having mobilized other enterprises and funds.

        What are the others? Incidentally, not those from a parallel universe.
      2. Theophanes
        Theophanes 29 November 2013 21: 40
        +3
        Dear, esteemed ... Serdyuk destroyed that little that remained after ebn, Gaidar and Chubais. These traitors destroyed all cooperation on mobile plans! And the mobilization preparation itself and any work on it was recognized by Serdyuk as not effective and not necessary! So who will build them and where? You need to have material stock, trained technologists, knowledgeable designers, workers making at least part of the products, machines, equipment and much more. It will be too late to start building now.
  4. propolsky
    propolsky 29 November 2013 11: 40
    +1
    It is very interesting in military use, although you can’t tell about stealth ...
  5. moskal68
    moskal68 29 November 2013 12: 12
    0
    Still Moon would be returned to duty.
    1. svp67
      svp67 29 November 2013 12: 14
      +4
      Quote: 68
      Still Moon would be returned to duty.

      It would be better "Jeyrans", two dozen ...
      1. 31231
        31231 29 November 2013 21: 05
        +1
        I agree. I don’t even feel sorry for the patrol. But with its speed, poachers on our shelf to drive very well. And it's time for our border guards to quietly flood these poaching dishes.
  6. Poruchik 90
    Poruchik 90 29 November 2013 12: 13
    +7
    Survival is always characterized by division. Not without it and the Marine Corps. We began to divide ... "Bison". They were built by a plant in Leningrad and Feodosia. Ukraine wanted to have its own marines on the Black Sea. Three "Bison" went to her. But quickly realizing that it was an expensive pleasure to maintain a landing force, Ukraine put its Zubrs on a joke until better times, which quickly happened.

    In Greece, where supposedly everything is there, apparently one thing was missing - "Bison". As you know, this country owns many islands in the Aegean Sea and constantly argues about their belonging to Turkey, which would also like to have these islands. Greece considered that the "Bison" can cool the ardor of the Turkish side and signed contracts for the supply of amphibious assault ships on an air cushion with Russia and Ukraine. Two "used" ships and two new ones left for Greece.
  7. moskal68
    moskal68 29 November 2013 12: 16
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: 68
    Still Moon would be returned to duty.

    It would be better "Jeyrans", two dozen ...
    What kind of beast is this? Lun is a rocket ekranolet. Power !!!
    1. Armata
      Armata 29 November 2013 12: 54
      +4
      Quote: 68
      What kind of beast is this?
      This is a hovercraft landing craft. The bison is slightly smaller, but faster. But the "harrier" is an impact ekranoplan, its tasks are completely different.
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      2. svp67
        svp67 29 November 2013 13: 12
        +7
        Quote: Mechanic
        This is a hovercraft



        1. 31231
          31231 29 November 2013 19: 02
          +1
          Thanks. My friend in Baltiysk served at the RTO. He called all air vents "Jeyrans".
      3. svp67
        svp67 29 November 2013 13: 13
        +3
        And of course, something like "Skatov"
  8. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 29 November 2013 14: 05
    +2
    We have for the entire Navy (4 fleets and 1 flotilla) only TWO landing craft on an air cushion. The rest is all in question ..li. And the boats are extremely useful. One speed of 63 knots (117 km / h) is worth it.
    1. Poruchik 90
      Poruchik 90 29 November 2013 14: 16
      +2
      From Crimea to Turkey this move is a bit more than 2 hours.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 29 November 2013 14: 56
        0
        Quote: Poruchik 90
        From Crimea to Turkey this move is a bit more than 2 hours.


        But is it enough distance to Turkey?
        1. Poruchik 90
          Poruchik 90 29 November 2013 15: 08
          +1
          cruising range, more than 300 miles, this is the TTX answer.
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 29 November 2013 15: 32
            +1
            Those. from Sevastopol to the coast near Istanbul and reached the stop of the car. We will have too few of them, such ships to work in only one direction.
        2. svp67
          svp67 29 November 2013 21: 33
          +1
          Quote: cdrt
          But is it enough distance to Turkey?

          Not only there, but also back ... for this purpose they were built, so that in solving the "problem of the straits" to play the role of "express ..."
          1. ramzes1776
            ramzes1776 30 November 2013 04: 10
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            Not only there, but also back ... for this purpose they were built, so that in solving the "problem of the straits" to play the role of "express ..."

            In the Far East, a couple of in any way necessary. on the role of express between the mainland and the Kuril Islands.
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 29 November 2013 14: 42
      +1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      And the boats are extremely useful.

      With one drawback (IMHO). You stand so-so on the shore, do not touch anyone. Chew, buzzing! Beeps for a long time Looks, but something appeared on the horizon and is buzzing. While approaching the shore, probably not one battery for firing will come and turn around. Beeps very loudly.
      1. Leonid Har
        Leonid Har 29 November 2013 15: 05
        +3
        And that the Zubr separately, without air and sea support, is trying to land troops and occupy the coast? This is how the Americans landed in Normandy in 44th?
        He will be in the composition of landing ships, destroyers, aircraft carriers, missile boats and cruisers. In the fleet. And to approach the shore, everything will be cleaned up with cruise missiles, salvos of naval artillery, rocket launchers, aerial bombs, and it will be supported by strike naval assault air groups. So the landing will be on the prepared shore. And if you need an invisible landing, that is, for such cases, low-speed submarines with fur seals.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 29 November 2013 15: 37
          +2
          Quote: Leonid Khar
          he will be supported by strike naval assault air groups.

          It's good to sit by a warm stove to fantasize. Especially about "fur seals"If not sov.secret information, where are they based in Russia?
          1. matross
            matross 29 November 2013 16: 07
            +5
            Quote: Hedgehog
            If not top secret information, where are they based in Russia?

            On NTV. In the TV series "Sea Devils" laughing
          2. kenig1
            kenig1 29 November 2013 18: 38
            0
            What or who are the "seals" you do not confuse the state? Even in the series "sea devils" there are no seals, you still say "WOW".
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 29 November 2013 18: 55
              +3
              Quote: kenig1
              you still say "WOW".

              If it is to me, then easily and repeatedly, at a pace and without pauses. It turns out a good option, I recommend! And the seals were not invented by me, but by the esteemed Leonid Khar. lol
          3. svp67
            svp67 29 November 2013 21: 35
            +1
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Especially about "fur seals"

            It’s not a secret for a long time - on Father Russky near Vladik ...
      2. lucidlook
        lucidlook 29 November 2013 16: 12
        0
        Quote: Hedgehog
        Chew, buzzing! Beeps for a long time. Looks, but something appeared on the horizon and is buzzing. While approaching the shore, probably not one battery for firing will come and turn around. Beeps very loudly.

        Would you like to as? I don’t quite understand what kind of alternative is being seen here. Please voice so that the criticism is constructive.

        Otherwise, nothing comes to my mind except for hovercraft submarines with tanks on board. wassat
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 29 November 2013 17: 11
          +3
          Quote: lucidlook
          Please voice so that the criticism is constructive.

          Well, it’s not my fault, Andrei, you asked for it yourself. And all this is seen with a clear look approximately like this! Have you watched the above-mentioned series "Sea Devils"? Well, and so, a detachment of combat swimmers "Navy Seals" In the region of Sevostopol, and perhaps Novorossiysk, they slowly enter the sea, dive, swim a little, and emerge 2-3 cables from Istanbul. Meanwhile, a watchman from Baghdad walks around Istanbul and out of habit shouts: "Everything is calm in Baghdad" Seals quietly come out of the sea, take off their fins, jump on the horses that have sailed with them and rush with their sabers to attack sleeping Istanbul. In 15 minutes sleeping Istanbul fell under the onslaught of the "Navy Seals". Is this enough or enough?
          1. lucidlook
            lucidlook 30 November 2013 07: 50
            +1
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Enough or enough?

            I don’t even know what to choose. good
      3. 31231
        31231 29 November 2013 21: 10
        +1
        Yes, as a paratrooper he is odnaznachno well done. But in peacetime, he is at his speed to chase poachers. Not only is it fast, but it’s also not a small scale. On TF it is necessary on the shelf of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Tatar Strait. This is where it will not only serve, but also bring benefits to the economy.
        1. rolik2
          rolik2 29 November 2013 22: 47
          0
          Quote: 31231
          But in peacetime, he is at his speed to chase poachers.

          Are you crazy?
          Do you know how much fuel he eats per hour?
          What is the resource of turbines ??
          That you have, those poachers must be gold so that "Bison" is chasing after them.
          And what kind of poachers are these to delay which you need a battalion of marines with the support of a dozen armored personnel carriers. ??
          1. 31231
            31231 30 November 2013 09: 23
            0
            Do you know how much fuel he eats per hour?


            And how many poachers of the crab ?!
      4. svp67
        svp67 29 November 2013 21: 38
        +1
        Quote: Hedgehog
        . While approaching the shore, probably not one battery for firing will come and turn around. Beeps very loudly.

        While on the shore, you will not hear this sound, behind the sounds of shells exploding around you ... if the coast is prepared for anti-amphibious defense and the main fortifications are occupied by troops, and do not care how to make noise if these troops simply did not have time to take their positions along the coast, KVP they will simply sweep away with their OWN fire, all the little thing that will be on the way and dropping the landing, will follow another "wave" or make room for a detachment of "normal" BDK ..., and then the transport, mobilized will approach, and the pier will be ready for their arrival from the pontoons. In the landing, the main thing is time, the main thing is to work ahead of schedule, whoever takes key points and points faster and increases the number of troops and assets, he won ...
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 29 November 2013 22: 25
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          Being on the shore you will not hear this sound

          Hope in vain, dear. I won’t hear them. Even in wartime. Unapproachable for anyone. lol
          But in general, it is far from "Zubr", something smaller, maybe "Dzheyran", at the naval parade it made a lot of noise, not coming close to the boulevard with spectators. I have not heard such a noise since my youth, when seaplanes were based in the bay. So they, the planes made less noise. fellow
          1. svp67
            svp67 29 November 2013 23: 38
            0
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Hope in vain, dear

            Already the enemy will be deaf and blind belay certainly never hoped ... lol . No offense... drinks
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 30 November 2013 10: 24
              0
              Quote: svp67
              Already that the enemy will be deaf and blind, certainly never hoped ...

              And this is fair. Recently, a certain filmmaker turned up, about the Amer Marine or special forces, so they, from their own words, are ready to get to the battlefield only on turntables. Unlike our fighters, who are trained and trained for 10-15 km to go from the landing site. One more noise and cod, another silence and surprise. drinks
  9. Simon
    Simon 29 November 2013 14: 18
    +1
    Healing and in operation! Nothing, the time will come and build new ones.
  10. Poruchik 90
    Poruchik 90 29 November 2013 15: 11
    +1
    MAIN CHARACTERISTICS

    Full displacement, t 555
    The greatest length, m 57,3
    The width is the greatest, m 25,6
    The greatest height on the air cushion, m 21,9
    GGTA power, hp 5x10000
    Full speed, knots Xnumx
    Cruising range, miles> 300
    Autonomy of swimming, days 5
    Crew, pers. Xnumx
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 29 November 2013 20: 09
      0
      How much does he eat? I mean - like the whole fleet, or just like half of it? A very beautiful thing, some advantages are obvious, but is there any possibility of its real use?
      1. 31231
        31231 29 November 2013 21: 01
        0
        Hedgehog it is clear that it eats not measured, but it is relevant for landing in shallow water and swampy floodplains. Well, of course, handsome, drawing. He would be chased to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Tatar Strait along the shelf of poachers.
  11. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 29 November 2013 16: 04
    +1
    In 91, while in the service of the Federation Council, he was on leave from Severomorsk. There on the coast I saw the Zubr at the site. What happened to him now, how many there were - I don't know.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 29 November 2013 16: 14
      10
      And ships entered our harbor laughingIn Kaliningrad, the landing ship "Zubr" scared the rest.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 29 November 2013 16: 51
        +3
        Quote: Alex 241
        In Kaliningrad, the landing ship "Zubr" scared the rest.

        Vacationing foreigners would have already fled in a panic.
        And ours don't care - they stand and stare, "- wow, entertainment."
        laughing
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 29 November 2013 17: 02
          +5
          Lech the most interesting thing is that they sunbathe on the territory of the landfill, we are truly a great nation laughing I remember rested in Feodosia and this "monster" got out to the pier, I was still a child, but the impression of course .........
        2. smile
          smile 29 November 2013 23: 21
          +4
          Aleks tv
          Alexander rightly said that this is a training ground - near Mechnikovo - all these vacationers have seen this beast more than once, but they can’t drive them away from the training ground, sometimes the equipment travels along the water's edge - this is how they get together, infections, right under the wheels and tracks and take pictures .... at least handle these beaches with howitzers - I’ll probably run around, pick up the fragments under fire .... and you can’t miss them there - no barbed wire, no machine-gun towers, pillboxes and minefields will stop the beach people - the people are absolutely crazy :) )))
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 29 November 2013 23: 42
            +3
            .............................................
            1. smile
              smile 30 November 2013 01: 52
              +2
              Alex 241
              In!!!! It’s a mystery for me how you find confirmation so quickly, but this is really our beach .... :))) I can only compare beach people with ants ... somehow I had to live with them .... with ants ... ershtveymety, they were everywhere ... well, in general ... even you cut bread, and dissatisfied ants crawl out at the section ... and so the whole loaf ... :)))
              Well, in general, at the training grounds of our glorious marines, the role of these ants is played by our beach people .... :))))
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 30 November 2013 02: 06
                +2
                Volodya, polygons are a separate issue, how do not "seal" it with posts anyway someone will leak laughing Do you remember how in that movie?
                1. smile
                  smile 30 November 2013 13: 52
                  0
                  Alex 241
                  Well, yes, Alexander, he will find a hole in the water. :)))) And the film ... oh, I got to the handle, I remember the film, but I forgot the name. : (((
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 30 November 2013 17: 40
                    0
                    ..................................................
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 29 November 2013 22: 02
        +2
        ZOOM)))BISON is a useful "beast", to process the shore, and then come to it, this is our style, our land wassat
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  13. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 29 November 2013 16: 22
    +2
    Quote: Hedgehog
    Quote: VohaAhov
    And the boats are extremely useful.

    With one drawback (IMHO). You stand so-so on the shore, do not touch anyone. Chew, buzzing! Beeps for a long time Looks, but something appeared on the horizon and is buzzing. While approaching the shore, probably not one battery for firing will come and turn around. Beeps very loudly.

    There was such a case during the first Georgian-Abkhaz conflict. Our "Zubr" sailed at night - to take out civilians. Buzzed near the shore with its turbines. The Georgians thought that they were being attacked from the air and wasted their anti-aircraft guns.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 29 November 2013 17: 19
      +1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      thought they were being attacked from the air

      And it is true. Only on the shore the sound is not from above, but from almost all directions from the sea. All 180 degrees probably laughing
    2. Moore
      Moore 29 November 2013 17: 31
      +2
      There is such a story about this:
      http://u-96.livejournal.com/1351978.html laughing
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 29 November 2013 18: 17
        0
        Quote: Moore
        such a story

        The charm. Thank. fellow
      2. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 29 November 2013 19: 55
        0
        Quote: Moore
        Here is a story:

        good
  14. ramin_serg
    ramin_serg 29 November 2013 16: 30
    0
    I think a good thing, I hope not only to frighten bathers
  15. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 29 November 2013 16: 58
    0
    This is about the "bison".
    All DKVP pr. 1232.2, construction of plant No. 5, became part of the Baltic Fleet and consolidated into the 7th division of landing ships based in Baltiysk (Kaliningrad Region). Ships of the Feodosia built privatized by Ukraine. DKVP pr. 1232.2 for the Greek Navy (Greece ordered 2 DKVP in Russia in June 1999, 2 DKVP in Ukraine - September 8.09.1999, 24.01.2000. The contracts were concluded on January 1, 180). 50st ship (L16.01.1994 Kefallinia, from the Russian Navy ('ex-MDK-27.10.2000): launched 2000) converted and launched on 18.01.2001, delivered to the customer in 22.01.2001, delivered to Salamis 2 , joined the fleet 183/28.05.2001/2001; 3nd (L182 Zakinthos: unfinished at the Almaz plant, converted and launched on May 25.06.2004, 2004) - transferred in July 4.01.2005; 4rd (L184 Kerkyra, Ukrainian built: launched on June 2006, 2001, transferred in 181, joined the fleet on January 831, 421); 9.12.2000th — built according to a modernized design at the Almaz plant (L7.02.2001, joined the fleet in July 24.02.2001). Also, in 4, one DKVP was transferred from the Ukrainian Navy to Greece (L2008 Ithaki, construction of plant No. 4, ex-U1232.2 Ivan Bohun: launched on December 2, 2, joined the Greek Navy on February XNUMX, XNUMX). XNUMX Greece signed a contract with Russia for the supply of another XNUMX DKVP (the contract has not yet been completed). At the end of XNUMX, Ukraine and China signed a contract for the construction of XNUMX DKVP pr. XNUMX. (XNUMX - at the Feodosia shipbuilding company "More", XNUMX - in China with the transfer of technical documentation to the customer).
  16. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 29 November 2013 17: 00
    0
    1232.2
    "Bison"
    MDK-95
    1988
    1985-95
    1985-95
    No. 5, No. 831
    11
    2
    G / p - 150 tons (3 T-72 or 4 BTR-70; 360 people and 25 tons of cargo)
    480/555 t. Tank landing ship. Length - 57,3 m, width - 25,6 m. 2x22 MLRS MS-227 "Fire", 2x6 AK-630, Radar "Positive" (on the head) or "Azure". Three marching GTU MT-70 + two lifting GTU NO-10, speed - 60 knots

    1232.2


    2000-2004
    № 5
    2
    Also
    Export (Greece). 2 or 4x4 launcher SAM "Igla-1M", 6x2 30-mm AK-630M, 2x22 140-mm MLRS MS-227. EU - 5 GTU M-70 (NK-12MV), 5x12100 hp Speed ​​- 63 knots Cruising range - 300-1000 / 55. Crew - 31 people. (4 of.). Navig. Radar SRN-207 "Screen", radar MP-123-2 "Pennant". Fuel capacity - 56 t

    1232.2
    L184
    2006
    2005-06
    № 5
    1
    Also
    Upgraded Export (Greece). With VOLVO-PENTA diesel generators, 4 lifting gas turbine engines НО-10 (36300 hp)
  17. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 29 November 2013 17: 02
    0
    "Diamond" There is still moray eel.
    12061
    Murena
    D-453
    1985
    1985-92
    № 876
    8
    G / p - 40-42 t (2 PT-76 or 1 T-72; 130-150 people)
    104/149 t. DKA 4 ranks, development pr.1206. Length - 31,6 m, width 12,9 m, draft - 1,6 m. 2x6 AK-306, 1x2 12,7 mm Utes-M, 2x1 BP-30, radar Lazur. EU - 2 GTD PR-77 (8000 hp), 2 propellers with a diameter of 3,5 m, 2 under. fan diameter 2,2 m, Speed ​​- 50-55 knots. Cruising range - 500/50, 200/55. Crew - 11 people. (3 of.)

    12061Э
    Murena-M

    2005
    2002-06
    № 876
    1 + 2
    Also
    Export (Korea). With digital electronic equipment instead of analog, nav. Radar SRN-207 "Screen". EU - GTU MT-70M, two Volvo Penta diesel engines, vinContract for the construction of 3 DKVP pr. 12061E "Murena-M" for the Korean Navy was signed in 2002. The first boat was delivered to the customer in 1, the second - in November 2005, 2rd - in December 2006. In 3, a contract was signed for the supply by the UAE of two DKVP pr. 2006E to pay off the debt of Russia. In 2009, a contract was signed for the supply of two DKVP pr. 12061E to Kuwait to pay off the debt of Russia.
  18. moskal68
    moskal68 29 November 2013 17: 13
    +2
    Quote: 68
    Still Moon would be returned to duty.
    for minusants - I meant hope. Like, it would be great if Lun got up again. This is how with the Centauromi that the stool wanted to buy. Well, the cannon is wheeled. But we had a development. Either Shiloh was called ... I do not remember.
  19. moskal68
    moskal68 29 November 2013 17: 13
    +1
    Quote: 68
    Still Moon would be returned to duty.
    for minusants - I meant hope. Like, it would be great if Lun got up again. This is how with the Centauromi that the stool wanted to buy. Well, the cannon is wheeled. But we had a development. Either Shiloh was called ... I do not remember.
  20. Stasi
    Stasi 29 November 2013 17: 30
    +3
    A hovercraft is what our Marine Corps needs right now. Such ships must be in the required quantity in our entire fleet. Alas, the design and development of such combat vehicles is actually curtailed, which affects the combat readiness of the fleet and reduces the possibility of landing operations at sea. I would like to believe that Shoigu will pay attention to the state of the fleet and marines, in particular to the problem of hovercraft.
  21. Brother
    Brother 29 November 2013 18: 24
    +4
    Funky handsome man "Bison" good!
    God grant that we have such a whole herd drinks!
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  23. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 29 November 2013 18: 33
    +4
    Sober-mindedness prevails in the fleet. The recovery trend of ships is winning. How many ships and submarines could be saved! Glory to God, the bacchanalia has ended.
  24. shitovmg
    shitovmg 29 November 2013 20: 50
    +1
    He looked at Dzheyranov in the 80th year at the Kerch training ground. Veshchchch !!!!!
  25. slovak007
    slovak007 29 November 2013 21: 08
    +1
    Quote: knn54
    -Vovka Levka: what's stopping you?
    Not WHAT, but KTO. We and they have "scrap metal sellers" rule.

    Managers, or, according to Zadornov, "coekakers".
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  27. Onil
    Onil 30 November 2013 01: 17
    +2
    Ships are flimsy, disposable, made of duralumin, plastic and rubber. Very expensive to operate. Designed for the landing of assault groups of troops, there is no return to the base, because light up instantly. By the way, the Greeks have already realized their mistake - two of the five ships are taken out of service in reserve. Ours are now relying on a different type of MDK. This is a landing craft with an air cavity on the bottom of the "Dugong", "Serna" type.
  28. Onil
    Onil 30 November 2013 01: 17
    -2
    Ships are flimsy, disposable, made of duralumin, plastic and rubber. Very expensive to operate. Designed for the landing of assault groups of troops, there is no return to the base, because light up instantly. By the way, the Greeks have already realized their mistake - two of the five ships are taken out of service in reserve. Ours are now relying on a different type of MDK. This is a landing craft with an air cavity on the bottom of the "Dugong", "Serna" type.
  29. Avenich
    Avenich 30 November 2013 07: 19
    +2
    Due to the fact that since the time of Alexander III, Russia has "only two allies, the army and the navy", it is necessary not only to repair, modernize, but also build new ones. And not only SVPs and not only serial ones, but also experienced, experimental ones. And there is no need to sing that we have no money, they found (?) For the Olympics, found (?) For theft. And there is no need to sing that we have no one with whom and nowhere to fight, then there will be nothing late to whine.
  30. sergo1979
    sergo1979 30 November 2013 07: 26
    0
    damn ---- I want in the USSR
  31. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 30 November 2013 11: 13
    0
    We are waiting for him ... We are waiting for BISON again in our Invincible army !! soldier
  32. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 1 December 2013 10: 26
    0
    Wonderful news! Congratulations to the Baltic people and I wish that something new in this style was delivered to them. But there were so many cool developments for the fleets of Russia, the officials were over their knees ...! Of course, on the Mistrals you can cut the dough immeasurably, but what is there some "Bison" - there is no place to turn! And the marines can be planted on a "fox", tea is not war! (this is how our thieving officials think)
  33. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 1 December 2013 10: 26
    0
    Wonderful news! Congratulations to the Baltic people and I wish that something new in this style was delivered to them. But there were so many cool developments for the fleets of Russia, the officials were over their knees ...! Of course, on the Mistrals you can cut the dough immeasurably, but what is there some "Bison" - there is no place to turn! And the marines can be planted on a "fox", tea is not war! (this is how our thieving officials think)