Baltic Fleet will bring back the legendary Bison

In Kaliningrad, the repair of the world's largest hovercraft project 12322 "Bison" is being completed.

Such ships in service with the Baltic fleet two - "Eugene Kocheshkov" and "Mordovia". The latter participated in recent international exercises Zapad-2013 in the Kaliningrad Region (Belarusian guardsmen landed on it on the unequipped Baltic coast).

"Yevgeny Kocheshkov" is at the Yantar Baltic Shipbuilding Plant, where specialists carry out repairs on propellers, fuel tanks and the bottom, the information department of the Baltic Sea Fleet's press service informs.

Also, shipbuilders will install a new flexible fence, the so-called "skirt" of the amphibious ship, under which the airbag is created.

It is planned that the plant workers will complete the repair by the end of this year, after which the ship will return to its permanent location - in Baltiysk, and after passing a number of course tasks, it will begin to perform combat training activities.

Help "RG"

The 12322 Zubr small airborne amphibious assault ship is designed to receive naval assault forces with combat equipment from equipped or non-equipped shorelines, transport by sea, land on the enemy’s coast and fire support for airborne troops. Due to the design features of the air cushion, it can move on the ground, bypassing small obstacles (ditches and trenches) and minefields, move through the swamps and land troops in the depths of the enemy's defenses. For MDKVP "Bison" is available for landing assault troops up to 70 percent of the total length of the coastline of the seas and oceans of the world.

Comments

[Migari]

Thanks for good news.

[ShturmKGB]

It is a pity that no new ones are expected ...

[klimpopov]

Here the old ones would not be recognized as "too expensive and ineffective" and would not have been cut into scrap metal ...
Recently, such thoughts are increasingly coming ...

[Ascetic]

Quote: klimpopov

Here the old ones would not be recognized as "too expensive and ineffective" and would not have been cut into scrap metal ...
Recently, such thoughts are increasingly coming ..

The lobbyists of the mattress need to justify the purchase of the Mistrals. And the fact that the Bison is returning is a good sign.

[Vovka levka]

ShturmKGB

It is a pity that no new ones are expected ...

And what is stopping you?

[knn54]

-Vovka Levka: what's stopping you?
Not WHAT, but KTO. We and they have "scrap metal sellers" rule.

[Deniska]

The brains of Moscow Region and the lack of professionals at the state defense order.

[Russ69]

ShturmKGB

It is a pity that no new ones are expected ...

At the last marine salon in St. Petersburg. MoD stated that it plans to purchase 4 pieces. But the timing did not say ...

[lucidlook]

The ship, of course, is excellent - 60 knots, 500 paratroopers or 3 tanks. Own weapons. Wow But production in the Russian Federation has been curtailed. But deployed to / in Ukraine, including for our Chinese friends.

Here he is, handsome, in the port of Guangzhou:


Well, what do the Chinese do after they receive a workable model of military equipment - we all know well.

It seems that in the Russian Federation they are going to (only going to) release a similar one, only of smaller sizes, so that a pair can get into Mistral. We will see...

[alone]

Quote: lucidlook

Well, what do the Chinese do after they receive a workable model of military equipment - we all know well.

disassemble to a screw and begin to copy on a breathtaking scale. like 2x2 = 4

[smile]

vkrav
Excuse me, but who are "kakly"?
And why did you say that word?
Do not distinguish their badarlogs from normal Ukrainians?
Craving to offend everyone?
What for?
Or did they take the woman away from you? If they took away - then of course I agree - since you, such a good one, the Ukrainians took the woman away, then the whole Ukraine is inhabited by bad demons, who else.

[vkrav]

Quote: smile

from normal Ukrainians

Excuse me, but only "normal Ukrainians" somehow do not come across ... and those who call themselves so proudly - mostly well, gays, your mother censorship, and thieves (this is very putting it mildly) ... -minimum censorship, the rest are generally unwritten ... Look what the "Ukrainians" have done to Ukraine in twenty years, and then be offended ...

[verdictum]

Feodosia is a Russian city. I myself am from Feodosia and it is unpleasant for me that people who do not understand the situation call us either Ukrainians or Ukrainians. 80% of Russians officially live in Feodosia.

[Valentine]

Like a woman was taken away ...

[smile]

vkrav
Ukrainians with Ukraine did what we successfully did with Russia from 91 to 2000 ... what should we be called? who are we after that?
In general, you are mistaken. I can’t imagine where to live in order to meet only a few Ukrainians and all the bad ... in the zone or what?

[vlrosch]

Daneg net. Gone to Chechnya.

[Deniska]

Yes, instead of "the heart of Chechnya" I think it would be nice to equip fleets with bison ... And this is not to mention the "Grozny City", etc.

[And Us Rat]

Here's a video on the topic (pleasantly surprised by the quality)

[smile]

And Us Rat
Video is good ... but you should have seen the landing ... and heard ... ochucheniya - indescribable. :))) He makes a lasting impression live. If I were an adversary defending the coast, I would run away fuck ... SCARY! :))))

[wk-083]

The video is impressive! Thank you +.

[svp67]

In Kaliningrad, the repair of the world's largest hovercraft project 12322 "Bison" is being completed.

and at this time in China, on the basis of documents and a sample received from Ukraine, dozens of his "sisterships" are being made

[Apollo]

Quote-In Kaliningrad, the repair of the world's largest hovercraft, project 12322 Zubr, is nearing completion.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

fragment where the crew prays, killed!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

fragment where the crew prays, killed!

And what's so surprising? Especially killing?

[avg]

Quote: svp67

and at this time in China, on the basis of documents and a sample received from Ukraine, dozens of his "sisterships" are being made

What a dunce minus. Or really don't like it. And it is such that just a couple of months ago the Feodosia firm "More" completed the transfer to China of two ready-made "Zubrs" and a set of documentation without approval from the "Almaz" Central Marine Design Bureau.

[mountain]

What a dunce minus. Or really don't like it. And it is such that just a couple of months ago the Feodosia firm "More" completed the transfer to China of two ready-made "Zubrs" and a set of documentation without approval from the "Almaz" Central Marine Design Bureau.
I confirm, unfortunately this is true, TRANSFER.
And what we are developing, a new project, they also wrote.

[cdrt]

Quote: svp67

In Kaliningrad, the repair of the world's largest hovercraft project 12322 "Bison" is being completed.

and at this time in China, on the basis of documents and a sample received from Ukraine, dozens of his "sisterships" are being made

Well, let them do it - it’s not against the same (purely by geographical conditions).

Well ... these are not his sisterships, but the achievements of Ukrainian shipbuilding completely "unlike" the Bison

[DimychDV]

Yes, there will be 6 () in two rows) engines and a half times less power and a hold for 1000 paratroopers or 5 tanks. And the cutting steel will be titanium. And zirconia turbine blades. and tires from Malaysia. And the guns of native Chinese calibers. in general, nothing in common.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: svp67

and at this time in China, on the basis of documents and a sample received from Ukraine, dozens of his "sisterships" are being made

And this is not even a joke ... they are already boasting.

[DuraLexSedLex.]

It’s good that they complete ... and he alone ... (((And the sense of him alone (((

[Algor73]

It may not be of much use to waging war, but two that are available are quite enough to maintain training and practical experience. The main thing is that there is an experience of use. If, God forbid, have to, then they will always have time to build, having mobilized other enterprises and funds.

[RSNV.]

Quote: Algor73

If, God forbid, have to, then they will always have time to build, having mobilized other enterprises and funds.

How simple it is for you.

Quote: Algor73

having mobilized other enterprises and funds.

What are the others? Incidentally, not those from a parallel universe.

[Theophanes]

Dear, esteemed ... Serdyuk destroyed that little that remained after ebn, Gaidar and Chubais. These traitors destroyed all cooperation on mobile plans! And the mobilization preparation itself and any work on it was recognized by Serdyuk as not effective and not necessary! So who will build them and where? You need to have material stock, trained technologists, knowledgeable designers, workers making at least part of the products, machines, equipment and much more. It will be too late to start building now.

[propolsky]

It is very interesting in military use, although you can’t tell about stealth ...

[moskal68]

Still Moon would be returned to duty.

[svp67]

Quote: 68

Still Moon would be returned to duty.

It would be better "Jeyrans", two dozen ...

[31231]

I agree. I don’t even feel sorry for the patrol. But with its speed, poachers on our shelf to drive very well. And it's time for our border guards to quietly flood these poaching dishes.

[Poruchik 90]

Survival is always characterized by division. Not without it and the Marine Corps. We began to divide ... "Bison". They were built by a plant in Leningrad and Feodosia. Ukraine wanted to have its own marines on the Black Sea. Three "Bison" went to her. But quickly realizing that it was an expensive pleasure to maintain a landing force, Ukraine put its Zubrs on a joke until better times, which quickly happened.

In Greece, where supposedly everything is there, apparently one thing was missing - "Bison". As you know, this country owns many islands in the Aegean Sea and constantly argues about their belonging to Turkey, which would also like to have these islands. Greece considered that the "Bison" can cool the ardor of the Turkish side and signed contracts for the supply of amphibious assault ships on an air cushion with Russia and Ukraine. Two "used" ships and two new ones left for Greece.

[moskal68]

Quote: svp67

Quote: 68

Still Moon would be returned to duty.

It would be better "Jeyrans", two dozen ...

What kind of beast is this? Lun is a rocket ekranolet. Power !!!

[Armata]

Quote: 68

What kind of beast is this?

This is a hovercraft landing craft. The bison is slightly smaller, but faster. But the "harrier" is an impact ekranoplan, its tasks are completely different.

[svp67]

Quote: Mechanic

This is a hovercraft

[31231]

Thanks. My friend in Baltiysk served at the RTO. He called all air vents "Jeyrans".

[svp67]

And of course, something like "Skatov"

[VohaAhov]

We have for the entire Navy (4 fleets and 1 flotilla) only TWO landing craft on an air cushion. The rest is all in question ..li. And the boats are extremely useful. One speed of 63 knots (117 km / h) is worth it.

[Poruchik 90]

From Crimea to Turkey this move is a bit more than 2 hours.

[cdrt]

Quote: Poruchik 90

From Crimea to Turkey this move is a bit more than 2 hours.

But is it enough distance to Turkey?

[Poruchik 90]

cruising range, more than 300 miles, this is the TTX answer.

[Ezhaak]

Those. from Sevastopol to the coast near Istanbul and reached the stop of the car. We will have too few of them, such ships to work in only one direction.

[svp67]

Quote: cdrt

But is it enough distance to Turkey?

Not only there, but also back ... for this purpose they were built, so that in solving the "problem of the straits" to play the role of "express ..."

[ramzes1776]

Quote: svp67

Not only there, but also back ... for this purpose they were built, so that in solving the "problem of the straits" to play the role of "express ..."

In the Far East, a couple of in any way necessary. on the role of express between the mainland and the Kuril Islands.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: VohaAhov

And the boats are extremely useful.

With one drawback (IMHO). You stand so-so on the shore, do not touch anyone. Chew, buzzing! Beeps for a long time Looks, but something appeared on the horizon and is buzzing. While approaching the shore, probably not one battery for firing will come and turn around. Beeps very loudly.

[Leonid Har]

And that the Zubr separately, without air and sea support, is trying to land troops and occupy the coast? This is how the Americans landed in Normandy in 44th?
He will be in the composition of landing ships, destroyers, aircraft carriers, missile boats and cruisers. In the fleet. And to approach the shore, everything will be cleaned up with cruise missiles, salvos of naval artillery, rocket launchers, aerial bombs, and it will be supported by strike naval assault air groups. So the landing will be on the prepared shore. And if you need an invisible landing, that is, for such cases, low-speed submarines with fur seals.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Leonid Khar

he will be supported by strike naval assault air groups.

It's good to sit by a warm stove to fantasize. Especially about "fur seals"If not sov.secret information, where are they based in Russia?

[matross]

Quote: Hedgehog

If not top secret information, where are they based in Russia?

On NTV. In the TV series "Sea Devils"

[kenig1]

What or who are the "seals" you do not confuse the state? Even in the series "sea devils" there are no seals, you still say "WOW".

[Ezhaak]

Quote: kenig1

you still say "WOW".

If it is to me, then easily and repeatedly, at a pace and without pauses. It turns out a good option, I recommend! And the seals were not invented by me, but by the esteemed Leonid Khar.

[svp67]

Quote: Hedgehog

Especially about "fur seals"

It’s not a secret for a long time - on Father Russky near Vladik ...

[lucidlook]

Quote: Hedgehog

Chew, buzzing! Beeps for a long time. Looks, but something appeared on the horizon and is buzzing. While approaching the shore, probably not one battery for firing will come and turn around. Beeps very loudly.

Would you like to How? I don’t quite understand what kind of alternative is being seen here. Please voice so that the criticism is constructive.

Otherwise, nothing comes to my mind except for hovercraft submarines with tanks on board.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: lucidlook

Please voice so that the criticism is constructive.

Well, it’s not my fault, Andrei, you asked for it yourself. And all this is seen with a clear look approximately like this! Have you watched the above-mentioned series "Sea Devils"? Well, and so, a detachment of combat swimmers "Navy Seals" In the region of Sevostopol, and perhaps Novorossiysk, they slowly enter the sea, dive, swim a little, and emerge 2-3 cables from Istanbul. Meanwhile, a watchman from Baghdad walks around Istanbul and out of habit shouts: "Everything is calm in Baghdad" Seals quietly come out of the sea, take off their fins, jump on the horses that have sailed with them and rush with their sabers to attack sleeping Istanbul. In 15 minutes sleeping Istanbul fell under the onslaught of the "Navy Seals". Is this enough or enough?

[lucidlook]

Quote: Hedgehog

Enough or enough?

I don’t even know what to choose.

[31231]

Yes, as a paratrooper he is odnaznachno well done. But in peacetime, he is at his speed to chase poachers. Not only is it fast, but it’s also not a small scale. On TF it is necessary on the shelf of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Tatar Strait. This is where it will not only serve, but also bring benefits to the economy.

[roller2]

Quote: 31231

But in peacetime, he is at his speed to chase poachers.

Are you crazy?
Do you know how much fuel he eats per hour?
What is the resource of turbines ??
That you have, those poachers must be gold so that "Bison" is chasing after them.
And what kind of poachers are these to delay which you need a battalion of marines with the support of a dozen armored personnel carriers. ??

[31231]

Do you know how much fuel he eats per hour?

And how many poachers of the crab ?!

[svp67]

Quote: Hedgehog

. While approaching the shore, probably not one battery for firing will come and turn around. Beeps very loudly.

While on the shore, you will not hear this sound, behind the sounds of shells exploding around you ... if the coast is prepared for anti-amphibious defense and the main fortifications are occupied by troops, and do not care how to make noise if these troops simply did not have time to take their positions along the coast, KVP they will simply sweep away with their OWN fire, all the little thing that will be on the way and dropping the landing, will follow another "wave" or make room for a detachment of "normal" BDK ..., and then the transport, mobilized will approach, and the pier will be ready for their arrival from the pontoons. In the landing, the main thing is time, the main thing is to work ahead of schedule, whoever takes key points and points faster and increases the number of troops and assets, he won ...

[Ezhaak]

Quote: svp67

Being on the shore you will not hear this sound

Hope in vain, dear. I won’t hear them. Even in wartime. Unapproachable for anyone.
But in general, it is far from "Zubr", something smaller, maybe "Dzheyran", at the naval parade it made a lot of noise, not coming close to the boulevard with spectators. I have not heard such a noise since my youth, when seaplanes were based in the bay. So they, the planes made less noise.

[svp67]

Quote: Hedgehog

Hope in vain, dear

Already the enemy will be deaf and blind certainly never hoped ... . No offense...

[Ezhaak]

Quote: svp67

Already that the enemy will be deaf and blind, certainly never hoped ...

And this is fair. Recently, a certain filmmaker turned up, about the Amer Marine or special forces, so they, from their own words, are ready to get to the battlefield only on turntables. Unlike our fighters, who are trained and trained for 10-15 km to go from the landing site. One more noise and cod, another silence and surprise.

[Simon]

Healing and in operation! Nothing, the time will come and build new ones.

[Poruchik 90]

MAIN CHARACTERISTICS

Full displacement, t 555
Length is the greatest, m 57,3
Maximum width, m 25,6
Maximum height on an air cushion, m 21,9
GGTA power, hp. 5x10000
Full speed, knots Xnumx
Cruising range, miles > 300
Autonomy of navigation, days 5
Crew, people. 27

[Mikhail3]

How much does he eat? I mean - like the whole fleet, or just like half of it? A very beautiful thing, some advantages are obvious, but is there any possibility of its real use?

[31231]

Hedgehog it is clear that it eats not measured, but it is relevant for landing in shallow water and swampy floodplains. Well, of course, handsome, drawing. He would be chased to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Tatar Strait along the shelf of poachers.

[Alexxeg73]

In 91, while in the service of the Federation Council, he was on leave from Severomorsk. There on the coast I saw the Zubr at the site. What happened to him now, how many there were - I don't know.

[Alex 241]

And ships entered our harbor In Kaliningrad, the landing ship "Zubr" scared the rest.

[Aleks tv]

Quote: Alex 241

In Kaliningrad, the landing ship "Zubr" scared the rest.

Vacationing foreigners would have already fled in a panic.
And ours don't care - they stand and stare, "- wow, entertainment."

[Alex 241]

Lech the most interesting thing is that they sunbathe on the territory of the landfill, we are truly a great nation I remember rested in Feodosia and this "monster" got out to the pier, I was still a child, but the impression of course .........

[smile]

Aleks tv
Alexander rightly said that this is a training ground - near Mechnikovo - all these vacationers have seen this beast more than once, but they can’t drive them away from the training ground, sometimes the equipment travels along the water's edge - this is how they get together, infections, right under the wheels and tracks and take pictures .... at least handle these beaches with howitzers - I’ll probably run around, pick up the fragments under fire .... and you can’t miss them there - no barbed wire, no machine-gun towers, pillboxes and minefields will stop the beach people - the people are absolutely crazy :) )))

[Alex 241]

.............................................

[smile]

Alex 241
In!!!! It’s a mystery for me how you find confirmation so quickly, but this is really our beach .... :))) I can only compare beach people with ants ... somehow I had to live with them .... with ants ... ershtveymety, they were everywhere ... well, in general ... even you cut bread, and dissatisfied ants crawl out at the section ... and so the whole loaf ... :)))
Well, in general, at the training grounds of our glorious marines, the role of these ants is played by our beach people .... :))))

[Alex 241]

Volodya, polygons are a separate issue, how do not "seal" it with posts anyway someone will leak Do you remember how in that movie?

[smile]

Alex 241
Well, yes, Alexander, he will find a hole in the water. :)))) And the film ... oh, I got to the handle, I remember the film, but I forgot the name. : (((

[Alex 241]

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[Thunderbolt]

ZOOM)))BISON is a useful "beast", to process the shore, and then come to it, this is our style, our land

[VohaAhov]

Quote: Hedgehog

Quote: VohaAhov

And the boats are extremely useful.

With one drawback (IMHO). You stand so-so on the shore, do not touch anyone. Chew, buzzing! Beeps for a long time Looks, but something appeared on the horizon and is buzzing. While approaching the shore, probably not one battery for firing will come and turn around. Beeps very loudly.

There was such a case during the first Georgian-Abkhaz conflict. Our "Zubr" sailed at night - to take out civilians. Buzzed near the shore with its turbines. The Georgians thought that they were being attacked from the air and wasted their anti-aircraft guns.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: VohaAhov

thought they were being attacked from the air

And it is true. Only on the shore the sound is not from above, but from almost all directions from the sea. All 180 degrees probably

[Moore]

There is such a story about this:
http://u-96.livejournal.com/1351978.html

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Moore

such a story

The charm. Thank.

[Aleks tv]

Quote: Moore

Here is a story:

[ramin_serg]

I think a good thing, I hope not only to frighten bathers

[1c-inform-city]

This is about the "bison".
All DKVP pr. 1232.2, construction of plant No. 5, became part of the Baltic Fleet and consolidated into the 7th division of landing ships based in Baltiysk (Kaliningrad Region). Ships of the Feodosia built privatized by Ukraine. DKVP pr. 1232.2 for the Greek Navy (Greece ordered 2 DKVP in Russia in June 1999, 2 DKVP in Ukraine - September 8.09.1999, 24.01.2000. The contracts were concluded on January 1, 180). 50st ship (L16.01.1994 Kefallinia, from the Russian Navy ('ex-MDK-27.10.2000): launched 2000) converted and launched on 18.01.2001, delivered to the customer in 22.01.2001, delivered to Salamis 2 , joined the fleet 183/28.05.2001/2001; 3nd (L182 Zakinthos: unfinished at the Almaz plant, converted and launched on May 25.06.2004, 2004) - transferred in July 4.01.2005; 4rd (L184 Kerkyra, Ukrainian built: launched on June 2006, 2001, transferred in 181, joined the fleet on January 831, 421); 9.12.2000th — built according to a modernized design at the Almaz plant (L7.02.2001, joined the fleet in July 24.02.2001). Also, in 4, one DKVP was transferred from the Ukrainian Navy to Greece (L2008 Ithaki, construction of plant No. 4, ex-U1232.2 Ivan Bohun: launched on December 2, 2, joined the Greek Navy on February XNUMX, XNUMX). XNUMX Greece signed a contract with Russia for the supply of another XNUMX DKVP (the contract has not yet been completed). At the end of XNUMX, Ukraine and China signed a contract for the construction of XNUMX DKVP pr. XNUMX. (XNUMX - at the Feodosia shipbuilding company "More", XNUMX - in China with the transfer of technical documentation to the customer).

[1c-inform-city]

1232.2
"Bison"
MDK-95
1988
1985-95
1985-95
No. 5, No. 831
11
2
G / p - 150 tons (3 T-72 or 4 BTR-70; 360 people and 25 tons of cargo)
480/555 t. Tank landing ship. Length - 57,3 m, width - 25,6 m. 2x22 MLRS MS-227 "Fire", 2x6 AK-630, Radar "Positive" (on the head) or "Azure". Three marching GTU MT-70 + two lifting GTU NO-10, speed - 60 knots

1232.2


2000-2004
№ 5
2
Also
Export (Greece). 2 or 4x4 launcher SAM "Igla-1M", 6x2 30-mm AK-630M, 2x22 140-mm MLRS MS-227. EU - 5 GTU M-70 (NK-12MV), 5x12100 hp Speed ​​- 63 knots Cruising range - 300-1000 / 55. Crew - 31 people. (4 of.). Navig. Radar SRN-207 "Screen", radar MP-123-2 "Pennant". Fuel capacity - 56 t

1232.2
L184
2006
2005-06
№ 5
1
Also
Upgraded Export (Greece). With VOLVO-PENTA diesel generators, 4 lifting gas turbine engines НО-10 (36300 hp)

[1c-inform-city]

"Diamond" There is still moray eel.
12061
Murena
D-453
1985
1985-92
№ 876
8
G / p - 40-42 t (2 PT-76 or 1 T-72; 130-150 people)
104/149 t. DKA 4 ranks, development pr.1206. Length - 31,6 m, width 12,9 m, draft - 1,6 m. 2x6 AK-306, 1x2 12,7 mm Utes-M, 2x1 BP-30, radar Lazur. EU - 2 GTD PR-77 (8000 hp), 2 propellers with a diameter of 3,5 m, 2 under. fan diameter 2,2 m, Speed ​​- 50-55 knots. Cruising range - 500/50, 200/55. Crew - 11 people. (3 of.)

12061Э
Murena-M

2005
2002-06
№ 876
1 + 2
Also
Export (Korea). With digital electronic equipment instead of analog, nav. Radar SRN-207 "Screen". EU - GTU MT-70M, two Volvo Penta diesel engines, vinContract for the construction of 3 DKVP pr. 12061E "Murena-M" for the Korean Navy was signed in 2002. The first boat was delivered to the customer in 1, the second - in November 2005, 2rd - in December 2006. In 3, a contract was signed for the supply by the UAE of two DKVP pr. 2006E to pay off the debt of Russia. In 2009, a contract was signed for the supply of two DKVP pr. 12061E to Kuwait to pay off the debt of Russia.

[moskal68]

Quote: 68

Still Moon would be returned to duty.

for minusants - I meant hope. Like, it would be great if Lun got up again. This is how with the Centauromi that the stool wanted to buy. Well, the cannon is wheeled. But we had a development. Either Shiloh was called ... I do not remember.

[moskal68]

Quote: 68

Still Moon would be returned to duty.

for minusants - I meant hope. Like, it would be great if Lun got up again. This is how with the Centauromi that the stool wanted to buy. Well, the cannon is wheeled. But we had a development. Either Shiloh was called ... I do not remember.

[Stasi]

A hovercraft is what our Marine Corps needs right now. Such ships must be in the required quantity in our entire fleet. Alas, the design and development of such combat vehicles is actually curtailed, which affects the combat readiness of the fleet and reduces the possibility of landing operations at sea. I would like to believe that Shoigu will pay attention to the state of the fleet and marines, in particular to the problem of hovercraft.

[Brother]

Funky handsome man "Bison" !
God grant that we have such a whole herd !

[Ivanovich47]

Sober-mindedness prevails in the fleet. The recovery trend of ships is winning. How many ships and submarines could be saved! Glory to God, the bacchanalia has ended.

[shitovmg]

He looked at Dzheyranov in the 80th year at the Kerch training ground. Veshchchch !!!!!

[slovak007]

Quote: knn54

-Vovka Levka: what's stopping you?
Not WHAT, but KTO. We and they have "scrap metal sellers" rule.

Managers, or, according to Zadornov, "coekakers".

[Onil]

Ships are flimsy, disposable, made of duralumin, plastic and rubber. Very expensive to operate. Designed for the landing of assault groups of troops, there is no return to the base, because light up instantly. By the way, the Greeks have already realized their mistake - two of the five ships are taken out of service in reserve. Ours are now relying on a different type of MDK. This is a landing craft with an air cavity on the bottom of the "Dugong", "Serna" type.

[Onil]

Ships are flimsy, disposable, made of duralumin, plastic and rubber. Very expensive to operate. Designed for the landing of assault groups of troops, there is no return to the base, because light up instantly. By the way, the Greeks have already realized their mistake - two of the five ships are taken out of service in reserve. Ours are now relying on a different type of MDK. This is a landing craft with an air cavity on the bottom of the "Dugong", "Serna" type.

[Avenich]

Due to the fact that since the time of Alexander III, Russia has "only two allies, the army and the navy", it is necessary not only to repair, modernize, but also build new ones. And not only SVPs and not only serial ones, but also experienced, experimental ones. And there is no need to sing that we have no money, they found (?) For the Olympics, found (?) For theft. And there is no need to sing that we have no one with whom and nowhere to fight, then there will be nothing late to whine.

[sergo1979]

damn ---- I want in the USSR

[Robert Nevsky]

We are waiting for him ... We are waiting for BISON again in our Invincible army !!

[kartalovkolya]

Wonderful news! Congratulations to the Baltic people and I wish that something new in this style was delivered to them. But there were so many cool developments for the fleets of Russia, the officials were over their knees ...! Of course, on the Mistrals you can cut the dough immeasurably, but what is there some "Bison" - there is no place to turn! And the marines can be planted on a "fox", tea is not war! (this is how our thieving officials think)

[kartalovkolya]

Wonderful news! Congratulations to the Baltic people and I wish that something new in this style was delivered to them. But there were so many cool developments for the fleets of Russia, the officials were over their knees ...! Of course, on the Mistrals you can cut the dough immeasurably, but what is there some "Bison" - there is no place to turn! And the marines can be planted on a "fox", tea is not war! (this is how our thieving officials think)