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FSB ordered another 3 border patrol ship project 22460

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FSB ordered another 3 border patrol ship project 22460



The shipbuilding company “Almaz” has signed a contract for the construction of three more border guard ships of the 22460 “Hunter” project (head number 506-508) for the Coast Guard of the Federal Security Service of Russia.

To date, 3 ships of this type, built in St. Petersburg, have already been transferred to the Coast Guard, and more 2 are under construction. Also the construction of the 3-PSKR project 22460 goes to Vladivostok at JSC "East shipyard".

Specifications:
Displacement: 670 t.
The main dimensions: length - 62.5 m, width - 11 m, draft - 3.3 m.
Maximum travel speed: 24.8 knot
Navigation range: 3500 miles (8 knots)
Autonomy: 30 days
Crew: 20 people
Armament:
one 30 mm AK-630 gun mount
two 12.7-mm machine guns "Kord"
The ship has a landing pad for receiving a helicopter.
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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 26 November 2013 08: 06
    +7
    So the border guards began to break something.
    1. UPStoyan
      UPStoyan 26 November 2013 08: 52
      +3
      Frontier guards have long begun to rearm. This is a photo from Novorossiysk. Border guards' boats are based next to the auxiliary fleet of the Novorossiysk Naval Base. Against the background of border boats (most new projects), naval boats are just rusty troughs that are not able to go to sea.
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 26 November 2013 11: 27
      +1
      Beautiful ship, seven feet under the keel!
  2. Marconi41
    Marconi41 26 November 2013 08: 14
    +7
    Previously, they were called Rubies, by the name of the first. And now the Hunter. Rather, they would have completed the border ships of the type Ocean, and only drive them on the Black Sea.
  3. Denis
    Denis 26 November 2013 08: 15
    +4
    Armament:
    one 30 mm AK-630 gun mount
    two 12.7-mm machine guns "Kord"
    There would still be anti-Greenwich missiles so that they do not crawl where it is not necessary
    1. alex56
      alex56 26 November 2013 09: 09
      +2
      The project provides for the installation of anti-ship missiles Uranus, with an X-35 missile)
      So if it is necessary to put.
  4. Marconi41
    Marconi41 26 November 2013 08: 18
    +2
    And 630-tki for the greens is enough, the main thing is that anyone would have more determination!
  5. patriot2
    patriot2 26 November 2013 08: 22
    +3
    Quote: Marconi41
    but on these only in the Black Sea to drive.

    Well, you can also in the Baltic. But in general, the news is good - better than nothing for the border guards! smile
  6. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 26 November 2013 08: 25
    0
    and not on whether these ships have the ability to install anti-ship missiles "Uran" if necessary?
  7. saag
    saag 26 November 2013 08: 29
    +1
    24 knots, you can’t chase the counter, although if you raise the helicopter
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 26 November 2013 08: 35
      0
      Nowadays, 24 knots is a mockery?
  8. Marconi41
    Marconi41 26 November 2013 08: 37
    +2
    Uraniums can be put on Oceans. But I don’t know why? If you use Uranus as a poacher, then with whom then to "talk" to! And at the expense of the move - not a problem. And the helicopter and the cutters are onboard. In extreme cases, a shell from 630 will catch up. And the FSB aviation does not sleep at night either!
  9. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 26 November 2013 08: 49
    +2
    This is what Wikipedia says "The ship's armament is one 30-mm automatic six-barreled artillery mount AK-630 and two 12,7-mm Kord machine guns. This is quite enough to solve the tasks that Rubin will have to carry out." the ships of this project have a serious modernization resource. If necessary, they can accommodate the Uran missile launchers. "
  10. saag
    saag 26 November 2013 08: 50
    0
    I wonder what project 14232 didn’t fit, except that there is no helicopter and the cabin is not so luxurious
  11. Mhpv
    Mhpv 26 November 2013 09: 20
    +2
    And yet the ship is too small for the Pacific Ocean. The speed is definitely mediocre, in the 90s the Chukchi had Yamaha kayaks, which gave out more than 20 knots, given their low weight. And then all PSKR should be able to quickly upgrade just in case (that's where the modular type ), earlier they were full-fledged warships, though not all, but with limited ammunition.
    Well, well done.
    1. guran
      guran 26 November 2013 10: 10
      +1
      rubber boat with "Yamaha" will give even more speed, so what? such boats are not chasing kayaks, but fishing schooners, seiners, trawlers of the BMRT type, whose speed is not kayaking.
      it is clear that a light motorboat will always win in speed, but besides the speed, one must also look at the seaworthiness, the duration of autonomous sailing. And rightly so, there is also weapons and aircraft. One salvo of "six hundred and thirtieth" and only the propeller will remain from the impetuous kayak.
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 26 November 2013 10: 33
        +1
        sometimes you have to chase kayaks, but shooting is not always possible.
        The protection of the maritime border is not only the pursuit of but also for fishing schooners, seiners, trawlers like BMRT, whose speed is not kayak.
        And you can not tell about 630, I saw it myself, but getting from it from the target column through a small target is not so simple.
        1. guran
          guran 26 November 2013 12: 57
          0
          Protection of maritime borders is primarily fishing schooners, MRI, BMRT, and seiners. Because it is not kayaks that conduct large-scale industrial fishing. And which one will go to the open sea in a kayak? No, Eskimos and kayaks go to the sea, near the shore, but is it worth chasing them? they do not make the weather, they do not scoop out seafood with hundreds of tons. Are Japanese, Americans, Poles, Koreans, Chinese kayaking poaching?
          You never know what you saw there, you really need to be able to shoot, to learn how to use weapons in combat, this is just a matter of course.
          1. Marconi41
            Marconi41 26 November 2013 16: 51
            0
            I don’t know why you are being minus. You're right. "MCHPV" can be seen for a long time already finished service and judges the old criteria. Few people encroach on our borders in the Far East. And here the main struggle is with rejects at industrial courts. Chasing kayaks on a ship is rather stupid, for this there are boats and aircraft. By the way, in addition to the vizier (I don't know if there is one at all) on Rubin, there is a weapon control system from a video camera. This makes shooting easier.
      2. Far East
        Far East 26 November 2013 10: 39
        +1
        Quote: guran
        fishing schooners, seiners, trawlers like BMRT, in which the speed is not kayak.

        Dear, what are they chasing BMRT Batm for? they all have HMS-SB! Everything's under control. without them they won’t be allowed to go fishing!
        Quote: guran
        One salvo of "six hundred and thirtieth" and only the propeller will remain from the impetuous kayak.
        and on a kayak that flies through the water nodes 25 must still manage to get! hi
        1. guran
          guran 26 November 2013 13: 03
          +1
          Quote: Far East
          Dear, what are they chasing BMRT Batm for? they all have HMS-SB! Everything's under control. without them they won’t be allowed to go fishing!


          and foreign ships under control? what about poachers?

          Quote: Far East
          on a kayak that flies through the water nodes 25 must still manage to get!


          kayaks are not considered a goal, see comment above.
          well, are you ready to fly on a kayak in the water and get shot at from a six-barrel gun mount? and you are so famously showing everyone the middle finger)) well, take a chance. Why take a risk? for three kg. pollock?
          1. Far East
            Far East 26 November 2013 13: 59
            0
            Quote: guran
            Why take a risk? for three kg. pollock?

            young man! what pollock! What are you about! make money buy yourself a good boat, anchvalang and you are already a poacher! the temptation is such a thing! hi
            1. guran
              guran 26 November 2013 14: 24
              0
              Yes, it’s clear that you dive for cucumbers, but you also understand that on the scale of industrial poaching, which refers to hundreds of thousands of tons of fish and seafood, hundreds of millions of dollars in profit, you are with your boat and scuba gear (and even all your ten companions ) look at least funny))
              Once again I speak on the topic, the main thing for such border guard ships is not kayaks and scuba diving boats "Yalta 2M"))
              as they say, one member and the sizes are different.
              1. Far East
                Far East 26 November 2013 14: 30
                0
                Quote: guran
                yes it’s clear that you dive for cucumbers,

                we do not dive! catch a crab, shrimp on an industrial scale! laugh! they do not chase large vessels! how do you not understand! they hunt for schooners! hi
                1. guran
                  guran 26 November 2013 14: 37
                  0
                  explain and show on fingers how you can catch on kayaks and motor boats on an industrial scale. How much cargo can your boat take on board? is it the size of a BMRT?
                  and -op-on! are we talking about schooners?
                  I didn’t hear that a kayak or a motor boat was shot, but what the schooners shot was there were documented cases.
                  both ours and foreign.
                  1. Far East
                    Far East 26 November 2013 14: 53
                    0
                    Quote: guran
                    explain and show on fingers how you can catch on kayaks and motor boats on an industrial scale. How much cargo can your boat take on board? is it the size of a BMRT?

                    did you even see schooners? which boats? What are you about! google and see! what boats, schooners! look (in the drome) Seaside cr.! and then write! with respect!
                    1. guran
                      guran 26 November 2013 15: 06
                      0
                      a kayak is a kayak, and a motor boat is an ordinary boat, I am aware that there is a drome, maybe the Far East.
                      A schooner is a completely different tonnage, but initially it was a question of kayaks flying fast along a wave that are impossible to get into.
                      Well, they don’t need anyone.
                      But the schooners, yes, there are different tonnages, they are tracked and shot.
                      1. Far East
                        Far East 26 November 2013 15: 11
                        0
                        Quote: guran
                        a kayak is a kayak, and a motor boat is an ordinary boat, I am aware that there is a drome, maybe the Far East.

                        Thanks for the fruitful conversation! yes let them all be drowned! it will be easier for you! good luck! hi
      3. Botanologist
        Botanologist 26 November 2013 14: 48
        +2
        Quote: guran
        such boats are not chasing kayaks, but for fishing schooners, seiners, BMRT trawlers, whose speed is not kayak


        When I was, a Japanese fishing schooner issued about 30 knots. So without kayaks there is someone to warm up the boilers for.
        1. guran
          guran 26 November 2013 15: 09
          0
          24 knots and 30 knots is a small difference, and the six-barreled "peacemaker" is designed for such a case.
          Schooner is not a kayak, it is difficult to miss))
          1. Pinochet000
            Pinochet000 26 November 2013 15: 32
            +2
            Quote: guran
            Schooner is not a kayak, it is difficult to miss))
            First you need to get closer to the range of the actual fire, but there is a radar and schooners ... so the full speed decides. I think so.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 26 November 2013 10: 28
      +2
      This one can also be modernized by installing Uranus and even Bending + spinner.

      22460 is more of a marine watchtower. He goes to the sea mainly. On the Pacific Fleet in Vladik will be based.

      For the ocean zone build 22100 with a displacement of 2500 tons. They will go to the North and Pacific Fleet.
    3. Far East
      Far East 26 November 2013 10: 34
      +1
      Quote: mhpv
      And yet for the Pacific open spaces a boat is not enough

      Dear Vladimir, you +++ hi but you began to "put a minus" I do not know just why! Someone knows better sho should be on the Pacific Fleet! with such boats only under the coast to walk poachers on "rubber bands" to drive! well, they know better. : drinks
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 26 November 2013 11: 04
        +2
        This minuser from another opera under the nickname Liss just went for all the comments stupidly sculpt cons laughing
        Dirty tricks-made the weak, let the little one amuse laughing
  12. Unisonic
    Unisonic 26 November 2013 09: 22
    +1
    Well, the bandits under the Greenpeace flags must be caught. Now in connection with the development of the Arctic shelf by Russia, it will begin, or rather it has already begun.
  13. ZU-23
    ZU-23 26 November 2013 09: 49
    0
    Let them take it not a pity, the ship’s TX are normal.
  14. AlexxxNik
    AlexxxNik 26 November 2013 10: 24
    +3
    like a former poacher kapnu fly for this steamer: the radar is low, the poachers lift it under the very sky, do not shun additional pipes and extensions, the much greater range of target detection pays off, and at sea the first one saw it and fled, speed does not help, the last my ship barely gave out 12 knots, but they worked perfectly, the magnetrons on the radar only changed with difficulty. the second: to press on assholes to enterprising officers that sell info about hiking exits and patrol areas. third: to finally encrypt the radio conversations, we listened to everyone and the planes and ships, and we communicated through e-mail. fourth: do not hide from the weather in skerries, in the areas at this time the most interesting begins, life is in full swing. most of the year the helicopter is useless and dangerous for shoulder straps, it’s not an accident, but I think it’s hard to storm with it on board, because cucumbers are ticking away from the storms
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv 26 November 2013 11: 09
      +2
      Worthy! Noteworthy good
    2. guran
      guran 26 November 2013 13: 34
      0
      What do you think, if you shoot more often to kill? To water specifically. Then, probably, the radar marriages will be raised even higher?))
  15. lelikas
    lelikas 26 November 2013 11: 03
    +1
    Quote: AlexxxNik
    like a former poacher of capna tar

    You need to copy it here - http://ps.fsb.ru/ - copy, maybe they will heed some practical advice.
  16. morpogr
    morpogr 26 November 2013 11: 13
    +1
    Good news. Especially for me, a marine border guard!
  17. Sergius
    Sergius 26 November 2013 11: 18
    +1
    So the project is sharpened to protect the border, territorial waters, and the fight against maritime piracy. And to fight against poaching, the 12200 Sable boats are baked, 47-50 knots for poachers and Chukchi in kayaks with pits will be enough!
    1. Far East
      Far East 26 November 2013 11: 32
      +1
      Quote: Sergius
      And to fight against poaching, boats 12200 “Sable” are baked, 47-50 knots for poachers and Chukchi in kayaks with holes are enough!

      if you know the border guards are chasing poachers! GIMS! they have been given this authority! I have a boat "yamaha fr-27, engine 175 costs. but if I put two 250! and look for me off the coast of Alaska! and I have it equipped with all types of navigation! from Japan this took 350000 rubles with our money. but I don’t shoot I know! while God had mercy. hi
      1. guran
        guran 26 November 2013 13: 27
        -1
        Personally, I would shoot without hesitation. To defeat and without warning.
        The law is the law. Spread a couple of assholes into molecules, others would have thought.
        Simply, many Russians in their mental development are at the level of the Papuans, they understand only after a good hit with a bat on the head.
        Many people like how people live in the States, well, so obey the law as in the States)) Weak?
        1. Far East
          Far East 26 November 2013 13: 54
          0
          Quote: guran
          Personally, I would shoot without hesitation. To defeat and without warning.
          The law is the law. Spread a couple of assholes into molecules, others would have thought

          it seems to you laughing and why would you shoot, if not a secret? and "zhopniki" who is this? must first be discovered! and who will let you in! miss swoop fly tear! popuasy good people! you think you are better! me states to one place! law, sho the tongue ...! hi
          1. guran
            guran 26 November 2013 14: 17
            0
            kakbe talking about border ships, are you finally in the know? they have something to shoot from. well, let them fly in and try to break, until the marriages were beaten well, the Kolyma did not give the deadline, and so they relaxed.
            That is because many Russians are "the law sho drawbar", and they are considered cattle and pigs. They live one day, not feeling the country under them, what will remain for the children, they do not think, for the money of their mother, they will pour boiling water into their mouths and put an iron on their heads.
            And the law will clamp all this mold on boats with holes, how long have they taken a fine of three rubles for drunkenness while driving, and now tens of thousands are considering the law on prison sentences for the second case. Times and laws are changing, only a short-sighted person can overlook this.
            1. Far East
              Far East 26 November 2013 14: 47
              0
              Quote: guran
              And the law will clamp all this mold on boats with holes, how long have they taken a fine of three rubles for drunkenness while driving, and now tens of thousands are considering the law on prison sentences for the second case. Times and laws are changing, only a short-sighted person can overlook this.

              everything is clear with you hi first you are Serdyukov and co. plant it! you are our human rights defender! with deep respect to you!
              1. guran
                guran 26 November 2013 14: 54
                0
                So with you everything is clear. Before nodding to others, you first remove the log in your eye before you notice a speck in another.
                If you require honesty and purity of thoughts from others, then start with yourself. The surest way. And the children will notice, and friends are neighbors.
                And then we always have the king and the boyars to blame, but the simple innocent people are completely and such, God forgive me, honest and happy for the country))
                1. Far East
                  Far East 26 November 2013 15: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: guran
                  So with you everything is clear. Before nodding to others, you first remove the log in your eye before you notice a speck in another.
                  If you require honesty and purity of thoughts from others, then start with yourself.

                  you probably need to be a deputy! I live as I want! we have a free country! children will be born to you, teach them justice, love for your people! hi
    2. Mhpv
      Mhpv 26 November 2013 11: 50
      +1
      Quote: Sergius
      So the project is sharpened to protect the border, territorial waters, and the fight against maritime piracy.

      To carry out such tasks, this ship does not have armaments, but slingshots, so as to violate the border, warships and submarines of not quite friendly states can be in terraces, and the pirates are well armed, it’s like they shot through a Chinese cargo ship in a canal.
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 26 November 2013 11: 52
        +2
        The Black Sea Fleet and the Caspian Sea, the Amur Flotilla were the part of these patrolmen, even the Baltic is already more difficult to try on them.
    3. AlexxxNik
      AlexxxNik 26 November 2013 13: 47
      +1
      the boats just stand at the walls, there is no seaworthiness, no autonomy, one fuel consumption and a chatter, it’s good if they can work for three months a year. Lovers to drive, the sea quickly reassures, so much so that the mechanisms go off the foundations.
  18. Far East
    Far East 26 November 2013 11: 20
    +1
    want to add! we have two "killer whales" at the Pagrants of 2004 release water cannons! speed under 30 knots! they will soon turn into dust! solid boats! do not go out to sea say voracious! Well, figs still have new ones to release! if these are new! Better to rot at the wall! something like that hi
  19. egor 1712
    egor 1712 26 November 2013 11: 22
    0
    It is surprising that such a small ship has a helipad. The ship is good and most importantly necessary.
  20. Marconi41
    Marconi41 26 November 2013 12: 15
    +1
    The helipad on it was made under the Ka-226. The helicopter was adopted by the FSB, but for the Rubins (Hunters)) they ended up. Then there was an attempt to arm him with UAVs and even adopted something Israeli and again unsuccessfully. It seems like now they are torturing UAVs of our design. Of course, I would like to return to the project helicopter.
    Rubin has nothing to do with the oceanic expanses, for these needs in the year 14 they must adopt the project 22100, the Ocean code for the North and the Pacific Ocean. Something like this...
  21. moreman78
    moreman78 26 November 2013 12: 31
    +1
    Quote: mhpv
    Quote: Sergius
    So the project is sharpened to protect the border, territorial waters, and the fight against maritime piracy.

    To carry out such tasks, this ship does not have armaments, but slingshots, so as to violate the border, warships and submarines of not quite friendly states can be in terraces, and the pirates are well armed, it’s like they shot through a Chinese cargo ship in a canal.

    Well, it’s understandable — nostalgia for the Sovdepov frontier TFRs, when for the border guards they simply issued the usual IPC and TFR with the entire Navy nomenclature of weapons? Many times did the Soviet MPSKR use their air defense systems, RBUs, torpedoes? All this is not necessary for border guards - neither air defense systems, nor torpedo tubes, nor RBU, etc. And to fight warships and submarines of not entirely friendly states is the Navy'S CHALLENGE! So you need to separate the flies from the cutlets.
  22. Dmitry Zurn
    Dmitry Zurn 26 November 2013 13: 07
    0
    Nice boat.
  23. Chever
    Chever 26 November 2013 14: 36
    0
    More, more such ships. No other way...
  24. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 26 November 2013 15: 03
    +2
    Quote: mhpv
    The Black Sea Fleet and the Caspian Sea, the Amur Flotilla were the part of these patrolmen, even the Baltic is already more difficult to try on them.

    You are not right.
    These ships are going to replace PSKR project 1241.2 "Molniya" and project 10410 "Svetlyak". These ships guard our borders both in the Pacific Ocean and in the North, although their displacement is two times less.
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv 26 November 2013 16: 15
      0
      To be honest, I didn’t observe any of them in the Kamchatka division. In terms of armament and driving performance, the new ones are inferior to their predecessors, but they surpass autonomy-this is a fact.
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 26 November 2013 16: 54
        0
        There is no longer MCHPV (Marine units, frontier troops) and the wrong division. And 10410 on Sakhalin and Shikotan are available, I saw it myself.