Tests of the US Navy anti-missile system failed

The missile BQM-74 target hit an American destroyer armed with Aegis anti-missile system.

During the tests of the ship-based Aegis "Missile" anti-missile system, one subsonic BQM-74 target missile was launched with remote control. As a result, the missile crashed into the destroyer, which can be regarded as a complete defeat and loss of the ship.

When a rocket hit the ship, two sailors were injured, as well as the ship itself. This writes UT San Diego.

Comments

[saag]

And this is a subsonic target, but what about the 2,5M?

[Ihrek]

and 2,5M is not the limit, in a possible modern war between serious opponents the speeds will be higher.

[stayer]

I agree. In addition, we must not forget that during training firing on the ship they know that they will now shoot at it, everyone is ready and standing on military posts. Readiness is 100%. But in combat conditions it is not at all clear what and where it will fly from.

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: stayer

I agree. In addition, we must not forget that during training firing on the ship they know that they will now shoot at it, everyone is ready and standing on military posts. Readiness is 100%. But in combat conditions it is not at all clear what and where it will fly from.

And in combat conditions, not all are ready and stand at combat posts "??? And do not even suspect that they can shoot?

[Woolfy]

Slipped over. America surprises me. It seems like a world policeman but with the simplest weapons could not cope

[123dv]

Well, they have rackets, I don’t even know what to say. Full bullshit. The striking effect is just a hole in the add-in.
In Soviet times, there was a similar case. The missile hit the ship during anti-aircraft firing. Without warhead. The ship burned down, the crew died.
True, in our case, the firing of a target rocket was successful, but this did not stop the rocket, but on the contrary .....

[123dv]

Cons put, do not argue ....
But I wanted to say, among other things, that if our target missile hit their ship (that is, our missile without warhead, used as a target), there would be no wet place from their box, even though it was without warhead. A fully equipped missile tears the destroyer in half.
From this, calculations of how much Onyxes are needed for example to defeat an aircraft carrier or other living creatures are not entirely constructive. And one successful hit is enough to disable any ship. Moreover, the extinguishing of fires in the thickness of the ship’s hull is not at all like burning planes on the flight deck with foam to pour .....

[nemec55]

Duc I noticed women for a long time Dusya edren a loaf long ago moved from a bench to a computer and mingling and mingling. You need to read gentlemen and analyze the thoughts of a person, and if you don’t like it, it doesn’t mean that it’s not true.

[Corsair]

Quote: 123dv

Cons put, do not argue ....

"Minus" corrected you for some optimism, in general, a tragic comment.
But "unfoundedness" without confirmation of facts in the future will cost you more than one "minus" ...

[edge]

Quote: 123dv

Well, they have rackets, I don’t even know what to say. Full bullshit. Striking - only a hole in the add-in

this is a target engine, fuel, control unit. b / c is missing

[sonik-007]

Depends on kinetic energy, i.e. by mass + speed. In our case, there may have been supersonic or heavy rocket, and mb both.

[Know-nothing]

P-15 "Termit" was there. More precisely, the RM-15M.

[123dv]

Bright memory.
That same case ...
Hi, Vladivostok.

[Corsair]

Quote: 123dv

Full bullshit. The striking effect is just a hole in the add-in.

Here is the striking effect of the "dummy" complex "Redut" 3 M44 on the Ukrainian dry cargo ship "inadvertently" (or simply carelessly) entered the closed firing area.
By a lucky accident, there were no casualties, the cargo ship radio operator, whose radio room had to be hit, was an amateur ... of crosswords , and went down to him in his cabin ...

[illarion]

That's right. Even the holes from the wings, as expected. Not like the Pentagon. One small hole and .... everything. Boeing, whatever happened.))

[123dv]

Imagine the face of a radio operator when he rose back

[avg]

And this is a collective photo of the crew.

[leman]

Thanks, amused.

[vlad_m]

Quote: 123dv

True, in our case, the firing of a target rocket was successful, but this did not stop the rocket, but on the contrary .....

Enraged?

[123dv]

The hit of an anti-aircraft missile not only did not disable the target missile, but returned it to the state of a conventional missile.
In the device of the homing head of a combat, but decommissioned missile of that time, during the alteration, an element was introduced into the target rocket that blocks the operation of the homing head. From the shock during the explosion of the Wasp warhead, the blocking was knocked out of the installation site, the homing head captured the nearest target and the missile hit it, as was taught. The supply of fuel and oxidizer to it, the large weight of the rocket and the decent speed did their job.

[Mairos]

so this is a target, why should she destroy something when hit? Stupid admiration for you - our training missiles cripple more.

[123dv]

This is a tragic accident. Then the principle worked that even an unloaded gun fires once a year. The necessary conclusions were reached during the assembly and use of target missiles and similar cases were no longer repeated.

[romanru4]

Quote: 123dv

True, in our case, the firing of a target rocket was successful, but this did not stop the rocket, but on the contrary ...

Enraged by eh ?!

[Vadim12]

It is true that this incident was described by Yanborisov. An anti-missile missile hit the rudder of the target missile, it went off course, "captured" the ship, and hit the bridge ..

[spravochnik]

Yes, there was such a case. At the Pacific Fleet, the ship was called MRK "Monsoon". The target was first hit by the "Wasp", then completed with AK630. As a result, the "Monsoon" drowned. One of the reasons is aluminum superstructures. Burn well.

[Mista_dj]

There was a similar incident at the Black Sea Fleet.
The booster block from the anti-ship missiles landed in the ship providing firing.
The kinetic energy of the disc was such that the fire that had arisen was hardly extinguished ...
Eyewitnesses who took part in extinguishing the fire said that "... the bulkheads melted ..."
And this is just a blank, not even the rocket itself (albeit without warheads).

[APES]

good news

[makarov]

But in the very Navy of the Americans there is a massive group sex, and someone with tears in his eyes thinks in secret "I would now have at least a little Soviet citation 201" for relief

[528Obrp]

Quote: APES

good news

The news is great! Only it would be better if they did not know this!

[DimYang]

The main thing is that we know this.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: 528Obrp

Only it would be better if they did not know this!

Well, suppose he found out du.rak that he was 100% du.rak and what he could do? He will not even be able to recover on his own. And in the case of a mattress, grandmas are cut down! Sawed. Now new expenses. And the dough was not enough. And time is running, in a hurry.

[poquello]

Quote: Hedgehog

Quote: 528Obrp

Only it would be better if they did not know this!

Well, suppose he found out du.rak that he was 100% du.rak and what he could do? He will not even be able to recover on his own. And in the case of a mattress, grandmas are cut down! Sawed. Now new expenses. And the dough was not enough. And time is running, in a hurry.

the chances are that the exceptional ones will go on rampage less and less.

[poquello]

Quote: Hedgehog

Quote: 528Obrp

Only it would be better if they did not know this!

Well, suppose he found out du.rak that he was 100% du.rak and what he could do? He will not even be able to recover on his own. And in the case of a mattress, grandmas are cut down! Sawed. Now new expenses. And the dough was not enough. And time is running, in a hurry.

crooked robot tired with its editing, sorry again doublet
test - pussy, ass, toilet

[Basarev]

Nevertheless, it was not in vain that Sokolov developed the submarine fleet with all his might

[evgenii67]

Quote: saag

And this is a subsonic target, but what about the 2,5M?

in the photo, as I understand it, they tried to shoot this rocket but remember the article on VO which is called something like this "The Russian fleet goes under water" though later there was an article of refutation and now this article, as Grishkovets said: "AND THE MOOD IS BETTER"

[Basarev]

The news is certainly joyful, but we should remain on our guard - we must safeguard and strengthen our superiority in the area of ​​RCC.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: evgenii67

in the photo, as I understand it, they tried to shoot this rocket

It looks like they fired from the phalanx manually)))

[w.ebdo.g]

What is not clear?
Americans happen to fight exclusively with the Papuans ...
Aboriginal people have NO KR)))

and we have ...

In the mid-XNUMXs, the United States' Central Intelligence Agency began to receive reports that the Russians were developing an anti-ship super-cruise missile. It was about the world's only cruise missile "Mosquito", which literally rushes over the crests of waves at a speed of two and a half times faster than the speed of sound. At the same time, the "flock" of these missiles is constantly rebuilding the battle formation and exchanging operational information about enemy ships with each other.
this "flock" than the Americans are going to shoot down? An atomic explosion - they just won't have any other options.
but it’s like a cannon on mosquitoes (mosquitoes ) shoot ...

[528Obrp]

Quote: w.ebdo.g

winged super-rocket

so not interesting. Bach and no boat. It is necessary that slowly, like Sheffield from exoset

[Basarev]

It doesn’t matter - there are still torpedo tubes on our submarines

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: 528Obrp

like Sheffield from exoset

And due to modern trends in military shipbuilding, any warship can comprehend the fate of Sheffield, when the warhead of the missile did not explode, and the entire ship burned out from the remnants of fuel.

[Grandson of Veteran]

Such training starts are completely ineffective. I propose to add realism and establish a US missile defense system jointly, by shelling the US ships with Russian anti-ship missiles with full warheads. And they will appreciate the strength of their ships and we will practice!

[KPACHA9_3BE3DA]

And let them pay for our science!

Then everything will be fair.

[Sasha 19871987]

with our "pebbles" like "Basalt" as if they will have nothing to compete with for a long time ... strange, but negative news from the states always makes me so happy ...

[And Us Rat]

The official statement about the incident is the U.S. Navy press center + BQM-74 video for review.

Story Number: NNS131117-01
Release Date: 11 / 17 / 2013 9: 32: 00 AM

By US Third Fleet Public Affairs

PACIFIC OCEAN (NNS) - An aerial target drone malfunctioned and struck guided missile cruiser USS Chancellorsville (CG 62) off the coast of Southern California at approximately 1: 25 pm local time today, Nov. 16, while the ship was conducting a radar tracking exercise during routine training at sea.

No Sailors were seriously injured, but two Sailors were treated for minor burns. The ship remains capable of operations, however it did sustain some damage and will return to its homeport of San Diego to have the damage assessed. The Navy is investigating the cause of the malfunction.

[stayer]

With your permission, I will translate it to other participants for easier reading.

SILENT OCEAN (NNS) A defective target rocket hit the USS Chancellorsville (CG 62) missile cruiser off the coast of Southern California, at approximately 13:25 pm local time on November 16. The ship was carrying out planned exercises with a tracking radar at sea. There were no seriously injured sailors, but two sailors received burns. The ship is in good condition, but has some damage. Therefore, he will return to the home port of San Diego to assess the damage. The Navy is investigating the cause of the malfunction.

This is their version. It seems like it turns out that the target was faulty and therefore not self-destructing. But the gunners did not do their job.

[kafa]

Oh, the target was even shaky
and if there was a working one, the ship would not return home to the base

[Know-nothing]

tracking it is rather tracking (targets), rather than "tracking at sea".
That the gunners should work on the target, there is not a word.

[stayer]

About artillerymen these are my thoughts. Of course, this is not in the text.


tracking - tracking, tracking, tracking

[ale-x]

With such statements the "mattresses" discredit their "sailors" who "missed" the threat in the form of a training missile - the crew probably ate ice cream before a quiet hour. Is it so?

[Good Ukraine]

Quote: stayer

It seems like it turns out that the target was faulty and therefore not self-destructing. But the gunners did not do their job.

I thought it was, well, at least RCC is good. And it turned out, and the horseradish rocket and the destroyer are not thin. As a result, both bees and honey are not correct.

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: stayer

It seems like it turns out that the target was malfunctioning

Then all Russian missiles for the Yankees are faulty :)

[ekzorsist]

More than faulty !!!
And even dangerous! Do not fly according to their rules and schedule!
Yes, here, like not so long ago, someone famously described how many granites and other things are needed to destroy AUG ... - here's the answer - ONE for each drift with a striped flag.

[Army1]

Willy-nilly cap-bailing straight rushing out of me.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Army1

Willy-nilly cap-bailing straight rushing out of me.

[AVV]

Then kirdyk definitely, and nothing will save them aircraft carriers or destroyers or cruisers !!!

[edge]

Quote: saag

And this is a subsonic target

but I remember a couple of weeks ago, when discussing the campaign of "Peter the Great", heartbreaking cries were heard here that the Aegis would easily block his attack and turn into a tin can dangling on the waves ....

[Andrey57]

That's right! Not for nothing, when Petya, Moscow or Varyag taxied into Mediterranean, most of the 6th fleet dumped mattresses through ports and into the Atlantic, probably because of the "weakness and inferiority" of our ships

[Bort radist]

Quote: Andrey57

That's right! Not for nothing, when Petya, Moscow or Varyag taxied into Mediterranean, most of the 6th fleet dumped mattresses through ports and into the Atlantic, probably because of the "weakness and inferiority" of our ships

They have long known how this can end. Another question is who throws panama.

[bif]

Quote: saag

And this is a subsonic target, but what about the 2,5M?

Moreover, ONE missile, in real life, at least 2's, or even more, are aimed at the destroyer.
But ours can shoot down and supersonic ... Training firing in the Baltic.

[bif]

Quote: bif

ours can shoot down and supersonic ... Training firing in the Baltic.

[media = http: //vk.com/video132416828_164264785]

[Gluxar_]

Quote: saag

And this is a subsonic target, but what about the 2,5M?

An additional 2 billion dollars must be allocated to counteract Mach 650, without this in any way.

[Simon]

Yes! With such weapons they will fight a lot! They will destroy themselves.

[Siberian German]

but I was not surprised

[Hunghuz]

The world's best tanning kosher technique was covered once again with a copper basin ........ ??????? poor Jewish media pushed so pushed and ......))))))))

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Hunghouse

The world's best tanning kosher technique was covered once again with a copper basin ........ ??????? poor Jewish media pushed so pushed and ......))))))))

No, you're wrong - Aegis is not a "kosher" thing. And our people know perfectly well what this 30-year-old (albeit modernized, as it were) rubbish is worth, so we have our own BIUS ("Reshet" from RAFAEL) - home, so to speak, really "kosher" washed down.

[Good Ukraine]

Quote: saag

And this is a subsonic target, but what about the 2,5M?

At the end of last week, a popular article by the shipbuilding engineer A. Nikolsky appeared on the Internet “The Russian fleet goes under water,” in which the author carefully explained why an aircraft carrier strike group is the most effective form of organizing a modern fleet and why American destroyers are capable of shooting down HUNDREDS of anti-ship missiles, and the Aegis combat information system has no analogues in the world.
In response, a whole battle of disputes erupted.
And now we have received a response from the Americans themselves. - To destroy the AOG accompanied by destroyers, one rocket per escort ship and 3-4 rockets per aircraft carrier are enough. One or two rockets can be added to this figure - well, maloli will suddenly be knocked down.
Severodvinsk has 32 Onyx + 30 torpedoes and rocket torpedoes (Club). Enough for 2 AUG USA.

[ekzorsist]

I do not agree ... Why 3-4 missiles on such a "good" aircraft carrier? Enough and 2 pieces - the rest of the Americans themselves will finish "... by shooting down Russian missiles that hit the aircraft carrier with Aegis systems, their (missiles) point of impact is completely destroyed."

[Good Ukraine]

Quote: ekzorsist

Enough and 2 pieces - the rest of the Americans themselves will finish "

There is little hope for them, they can miss it.

[Lime]

Iskander M - 8.5M.

[Edward72]

Better shied around the White House, because surely such garbage is, but with a warhead

[stayer]

Shoot down the CD is not a joke to you. Also subsonic. Let's see how you fight with Caliber or Onyx.

[tungus]

Quote: stayer

Let's see how you will fight with Caliber or Onyx

Already more than once slipped information that the Americans, in principle, are not able to intercept low-flying supersonic targets. Does not work. Now it turns out that interception of low-flying to sound ones is also problematic for them.
In this regard, I have a question:
Who and how calculated that 100-150 cruise missiles are needed to destroy the AUG? It is these numbers that appear in all articles about the invulnerable American aircraft carriers. Where did this myth come from? Maybe 10-15 "Onyxes" or "Granites" will be enough? If they can't even shoot down the imitator of their "Harpoon".

[neri73-r]

Who and how calculated that 100-150 cruise missiles are needed to destroy an AUG?

In this case, we are not talking about the fact that most of the (RCC) will be knocked down, but about whether the power of the warhead of a small number of missiles is enough to sink the AUG, how many are needed specifically, for example, for an aircraft carrier!

[tungus]

Why should an aircraft carrier sink? It is enough to achieve a roll, fire, failure of part of the ship’s systems, and that’s all. An aircraft carrier, as a combat unit, does not exist.
And then, of course, I understand that a ship with a large displacement is more resistant to damage, however, and 750 kg of a penetrating warhead of the same "Granite" is also not a mosquito bite. And what will happen to the aircraft carrier after such a hit, my grandmother said for two. In any case, no one has yet carried out full-scale tests. And therefore there is no reason to assert that an aircraft carrier can withstand several dozen missile hits. However, such statements are voiced. I'm wondering, on what grounds?

[ale-x]

Even a loss of travel will be enough.

[Andrey57]

Even if one "Granite" visits the hangar deck, there will be such a fire and devastation that there will be no question of any flights, and the fact that the aircraft carrier will remain afloat, so there will be no sense from this thing, if the planes do not fly.

[illarion]

Interestingly, it seems, the British are now selling their old aircraft carrier for ridiculous money. Maybe you should buy it and bang it with Granite. Here's a joke if it drowns from one Granite))

[Basarev]

The Invisible is a miserable tiny VTOL carrier; there seems to be a photograph when American Senator John Stennis and the British Invisible come together. The English ship looks just ridiculous next to the giant Nimitz.

[Basarev]

10-15 Granites will be enough for sinking the nose, but in order to sink the entire AUG, almost a hundred missiles are really needed.

[evgenii67]

Quote: Basarev

For the sinking of the nose, 10-15 Granites will be quite enough.

and the meaning of drowning something that does not pose a threat, if one missile damages the deck, then the meaning of the "carrier" is that it becomes a "cruise"

[Basarev]

And you yourself think: what will bring the Americans more losses - just a damaged nose or sunk. Therefore, I’m not limited to half measures like damage to the deck

[kafa]

let me know where the numbers come from

[tungus]

Quote: Basarev

10-15 Granites will be enough to sink the nose

Why 10-15? Why not three or five? Why alone will not be enough?
Where is the evidence that a large barge, albeit partially armored, loaded with hundreds of tons of kerosene and ammunition, will withstand the impact of even one Granite? Where is the evidence that all this ammunition and kerosene will not detonate and bury that aircraft carrier? "Granite" - it will not explode near the side. He, a scoundrel, can take off for a flight, or he can jerk in his gut, somewhere closer to the "kryuyt-camera".
No field tests were carried out for the survivability of aircraft carriers. And mathematical calculations, they can show any result, depends on how you count. The British, for example, considered the cruiser "Hood" to be unsinkable.
So, the statement that an aircraft carrier needs 15 "Granites" is just words.
Well, if we talk about escorting an aircraft carrier, then any "Burke" one "Granite" is enough for the eyes.

[Basarev]

I did not say 15 Granites. 15 is in the most exceptional case, and in a normal situation, five is enough to drown the nose

[spravochnik]

Full-scale tests were carried out. In the USSR, the unfinished heavy Kr pr.82 "Stalingrad" was used for this. We lowered the unfinished hull into the water and fired at the anti-ship missiles. Later there was the Bastion program. We worked out various design solutions and booking schemes. They built full-scale compartments and fired at. I saw these compartments at the ChSZ.
And in general, mattress-beds, in my opinion, do not build illusions. There was a Hollywood movie at one time, I don’t remember the name, which shows a Tu-16 group raid from the X-22 to an American aircraft carrier formation. A very colorful sight with a devastating result for the Americans.

[max702]

It depends on where the missile hits it, it’ll hit it on board by itself, but whether the question will reach the arsenals or the fuel storage is enough, one .. in the second world battleships and one torpedo was enough, warheads are comparable in power, but strength ships, as it were, differ by orders of magnitude ..

[Lord of the Sith]

What is meant by "destruction of the AUG"?
In full force or the destruction of an aircraft carrier?
If only an aircraft carrier, then according to Soviet manuals of those years, it was required 10-12 "Granites".
If total AUG, then add escort to each ship 1-2 "Granita".

But I think with penetrating warhead in 750 kg would be enough one or two "Granites".

[Basarev]

The destruction of the AUG means the sinking of the entire warrant in its entirety. You understand that in view of the large number of escort ships the Granites will need a lot.

[Tarpon]

If training ships with subsonic flight speed strike American ships, what can we say about our anti-ship missiles.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Tarpon

training ships with subsonic flight speeds hit American ships, what can we say about our anti-ship missiles.

I wonder why missiles did not work on RCC? The artillery did not bring down ... And they also boast of volcanoes and standards!
But our daggers and 630 were combing armored P-120 (P-6). About our anti-ship missiles. More than once I saw how, after the detonation of our missile target at our SAM, the anti-ship missile (target) sagged, caught fire, but continued to fly with a thick smoky plume. Shooting from AK-630 is a must see! The PCR goes in continuous gaps, burns, but continues to fly. It was guaranteed that the anti-ship missiles of the Shtorm and Uragan were shot down, but these are "heavy" anti-aircraft missiles.

[Ivan79]

And if it would be our Caliber or Onyx? The vessel would already lie at the bottom of the sea.

[major071]

Here it is. But they shout to the whole world that they have all the best, the Aegis system has no equal in the world. If you don't eat, you won't sell. Money rules.

[JIaIIoTb]

The funny thing is that in our country there are a lot of such oruns who don’t place their own country or the people who live in it.
I wonder what they will say now? Or are they modestly silent?

[Basarev]

But we understand that a real Granite ship would not stand

[kafa]

Yes to the ento-parachute with light superstructures from aluminum-magnesium alloys it would not be tin but a bul .....

[UVB]

A great addition to the recent article "Peter the Great" vs. "Aegis"!

[GRDS]

Dear, just snatched the thought from the "Hands"))))

[ed65b]

And the continuation of the article "Blow from under the water" Americans added and added everything with a beautiful photo sequence

[user]

You really want the best answer to the article "Peter the Great" versus "Aegis", but you won't write

[Sterlya]

Amers need training objectives to equip this warhead. so to speak, to make the exercises more realistic

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Sterlya

Amers need training objectives to equip this warhead. so to speak, to make the exercises more realistic

And they are useful and pleasant to us.

[makarov]

And here on the site there are some competence specialists, they broadcast, they say "Aegis" is ogogogooo. Where are we bast shoes .......

[KPACHA9_3BE3DA]

Of course ogogo, and that. How much money was ditched for him? That's great.

Even Serdyukov will not be able to cut so much dough, and then put it into service, although who knows.

R.S. Shooting for Serdyukov, this is the only measure that I agree!

[1712]

Not shooting, but a life-long penal servitude in Kalym. Felling a forest, pounding a stone without the right of pardon. And the remaining embezzlers to help him. The order will immediately be at all levels of government.

[vladsolo56]

Aegis Pontus Cool Advertised

[Stiletto]

Quote: vladsolo56

Aegis Pontus Cool Advertised

Exactly! American PR people tried to eat urine, they created such a brand of system! Aegis must be admired, envied, afraid, and you for her - discs ... Eh! Is it for that purpose that she can shoot missiles at her ?!

[Black Colonel]

Yes vpadlu was "Aegis" to react to some disc! Not a hat for Senka.

[xan]

Quote: vladsolo56

Aegis Pontus Cool Advertised

Yes, Aegis can have done her job, just everything else they have full fuyn.
From the article, we can conclude that their short-range air defense is bullshit, and the long-range one is clearly too.

[ed65b]

Well, defenders and guardians of the AUG, what can you say? What are you going to cover? Our submarines are exactly the letter g aug chupa-chups?

[STALGRAD76]

Ohrinet what fabulous dollars ... would, the sailors "suffered" a hole in the ship, they did not shoot down a subsonic blank not maneuvering, it's just ridiculous friends. Is this vaunted "Aegis" fucked up? There is no better news in the morning.

[dnh70]

good news!

[Nayhas]

I understand that Putin himself ordered the mockery of the Americans, but what about the mind? One test failure (not rocket launch from the launcher, power off ...) does not put an end to everything. There is a video where on the S-300 at the launch of the Zur the main engine did not work after the rocket left the TPK and the rocket crashed. This does not mean that the S-300 system is not combat ready? Details of the test at the USS Chancellorsville are not known, as I wrote earlier, most likely the test passed the near air defense of the cruiser and most likely screwed up the RIM-162 ESSM. But again, it is not a fact that firing tests were carried out, and not equipment tests.

[stayer]

But what about the photo? A rocket flies, followed by bursts of shells. Those. then they shot, but they didn’t hit. And Aegis rules it all.

[Nayhas]

Quote: stayer

But what about the photo? A rocket flies, followed by bursts of shells. Those. then they shot, but they didn’t hit. And Aegis rules it all.

Yes, although the Phalanx CIWS has its own radar (two) and did not cause any particular complaints earlier, it was possible for Aigis to guide (although what for?) And there was a mismatch in the software that caused a miss. Or maybe Aegis has nothing to do with it and this is just a jamb of Phalanx CIWS.

[1712]

"Maybe Aegis has nothing to do with it"
How do you want to say that this is a coincidence that the Yankees are doing well. Only here the hole in the board says something else.

[sasska]

oh-oh-oh, hello to the Fifth Column! Are you sick, sick, from such a failure of the Aegis lazhatron?

[Know-nothing]

Americans talk about radar tracking exercisebut they lie
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=77701

[Botanologist]

Quote: Nayhas

But again, it is not a fact that firing tests were carried out, and not equipment tests.

Are you seriously demonstrating that the US Navy is testing the ship’s equipment by launching a target on the ship? .

[Black Colonel]

"... Is the US Navy testing the ship's equipment by launching a target at the ship?"
AND OTHERWISE IS NO INCENTURE TO BE READY!

[GRDS]

I agree with many things, but the question is: if the equipment is being tested, what for to aim at the target, so that also to spoil the MCH and send the sailors to the infirmary? Moreover, this is a "Remotely Controlled" rocket that can be diverted from the target or self-destructed. Air defense of the near zone, but again not to hit the DOZ sound missile - I would say that this is a shame. At the expense of s300 - the missile came out of TPK - it means the target was escorted and captured - the launch was calculated, then that the product was defective, this is a question for the manufacturer. And here the calculation did not hit specifically for the purpose - minus the calculation, and not the product. As you can see in the photo, they were shooting in a group, but by

[Know-nothing]

Quote: GRDS

Moreover, this is a "Remotely Controlled" missile, which can be deflected or self-destructed.

Well, it is written http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=77701
An aerial target drone malfunctioned

Quote: GRDS

As you can see in the photo they shot a heap, but by

Photo at least 2009 of the year http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/491M-from-US-Canada-for-160-More-Target-Dron
es-05306 /
and judging by the quality in general 1980е

[ale-x]

That's right, the picture doesn’t seem even digital ....

[Nayhas]

Quote: GRDS

I agree with many, but the question is: if the tests are carried out what for the equipment to aim at the target, so much so as to spoil the MCH and send the sailors to the infirmary?

According to the official version, the target deviated from the course. Maybe you are right. But the commentators at their place in the USA thought that they were working on the work of Falunks and he messed up the tape, either wedged the tape, or just missed it, but it’s still not clear why the target operator didn’t eliminate it in a safe area.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Nayhas

According to the official version, the target deviated from the course.

I confirm. All missile firing by missile targets at NK is carried out with a parameter to the bow or stern of the ship under fire. (The lateral parameter is the distance at which the anti-ship missile will cross the NK course without being hit). We have it 1-2 km. At prize shooting - less, so that MRK (RKA), shooting at KUG, will receive a good rating. This "amendment" is made so as not to hit the ship. Disable elevation guidance, elevators. But all the same, there were cases of close fall of the downed anti-ship missiles at the side of the attacked ship. At one time, "Pylky" received fragments in a navigating post.

[FRITZ LANG]

Personally, I was alarmed by such news. Something very often began to skip the info that they do not stick with the latest systems. Not the fact that this is all true. I certainly understand that everyone here is happy from their punctures, including me but these four punctures too much lately.

[Nayhas]

Quote: FRITZ LANG

Personally, I’m alarmed by such news. Something very often began to skip info that they do not stick with the latest systems

No system is created without any punctures. American companies are forced to disclose their failures because they report on spent taxpayer funds. It’s not customary to talk about this with us, and only after many years will anyone write the history of the creation indicating what difficulties they had to overcome.

[JIaIIoTb]

Puncture of a likely adversary is certainly a pleasant thing. And it is clear that everyone has jambs. We also have enough.
Just in the previous topic, Americanophiles of all stripes, including the Slavs, sucked our fleet simply with rapture. Already sputtered with saliva from wild delight over Aegis. Feces from all sides surrounded our missiles.
And now they are quiet.
Apparently until next time. They quickly forget about the punctures of their idols.

[xan]

Quote: FRITZ LANG

I’m alarmed like these

Shoals identified in peacetime are very useful.
So in the short run, you can rejoice in the long run

[Vasek]

Quote: GRDS

shot closely, but by

Class!
Like: "Moishe is strong, but light"!

[3935333]

everything is right, to study the Americans perfectly knowing and realizing their gaps, they try to correct and find solutions to such shortcomings on such exercises. The fact that they posted info with photos is more than strange! maybe desa?

[loki565]

Indeed there is not only that ...





and then Tunguska distinguished herself

[Massik]

I especially like the presence of cameras inside and outside, and the lack of characteristic expressions "This is yeah! ..." Who is this ??? Military ??? There would already be a rewind checkmate, and a complete kipesh, but they so calmly, a little armored personnel carriers and 3x at least poked and everything is fine, every day such incidents.

[Black Colonel]

And the point is to test the equipment without firing, if you fly fly?

[Orik]

Well in and gloriously ...

[calocha]

The devil is not so terrible as he is painted. Although not yet a fact ... You can’t relax.

[gorku68]

Great news. But the Americans are studying, working out their "vaunted" ...

[Indifferent]

Everything that the Americans say, let alone shout, should be divided by four, or even by 10! How many times I haven’t come across their technique in my life, it has never met the stated parameters. Always worse. They are specially preparing for tests, probably a month in advance! They check every screw, stand at readiness number 1, and such a failure. What about serial weapons and readiness number 2? That is why they have "Axes" on the Chinese embassies and get along with power plants.
And imagine, this Aegis will be crushed with good radio countermeasures? It is on tests that they apparently do not "pass" at all. They are always going to fight with the Papuans.

[Eugeniy_369]

Justify ... America in full, we also have jambs , but to hammer on your ship .... especially with manual control ...

[bomg.77]

Although the ship remained afloat)))

[Uncle lee]

Ha ha ha

One american
Stuck in a finger ...
And pulled out of there
g ... four pounds.
And thinks that he-
turns on the gramophone

[alone]

You have a talent, however.

[Uncle lee]

That's not mine ! This is folk humor!

[yanus]

Fu, what a clumsy setting. Well, who will fire a rocket at the ship in simple exercises? Towards the ship to check the air defense is the norm. But no one is directing training missiles into the ships themselves. And what was the problem with pressing "self-destruction" when the missile passed the ship's air defense zone?
Now the "outraged public" and the admirals will put pressure on the congressmen so that they do not cut budget funds for the fleet. Or maybe they will start a new research program on the massive sawing of budget money.
In short, they will play a heartbreaking drama in the Israeli style - "the life of one soldier is more important to us ..."

[kafa]

they had a buffet reception and contact but ... failed the target

[Vasek]

They write, the faulty target was.
So let me down!

[Bort radist]

Quote: Vasek

They write, the faulty target was.
So let me down!

All the beacons refused, the self-liquidation team failed. The issue of using the target as a combat striking element is being considered. It remains to develop a cut plan.

[Unisonic]

All this for the sake of pursuing the necessary fiscal policy, or rather making such budgetary decisions that would suit the US military leadership and the leadership of the US military and industrial circles. There is no other explanation for this, that Aegis could not cope with the ancient 1965 subsonic rocket as a mammoth shit. In all previous military conflicts, missiles similar to TTX could not hit the ships of the US Navy and their allies, but now it’s right on target. Yeah, of course.

[stayer]

Americans are still actors. Budget cuts and crisis situations in the country can provoke provocations. They (Americans) have been convicted several times in history in provocations against their own people, in order to achieve their goals, unleash wars, etc. So you do not have to discount this option. They will moan in the congress, they say give me money to fine-tune the Aegis system, etc.

[saturn.mmm]

There were no casualties and thank God. A bad result is also a result, Americans are able to focus on a problem, most likely with the British they will begin to develop a new system.

[stalker]

good news! great result! let them continue on like this.

[HAM]

GREAT NEWS FROM MORNING. And then some authors have raised the "Aegis" to heaven. Be careful to brag.

[kind]

And how Aegis was advertised, and all their friends believed in this "miracle" of missile defense, and in the end they gave themselves a slap in the face!

[voldmis]

Hooray!!! So we still have time for rearmament ...

[Letnab]

Americans give Mlyn! in kind, they shoot at their ships ... how well were they sure of their protection? it’s the same as with us people are experiencing trauma on themselves, or bulletproof vests ...

[duchy]

"Stupidity knows no bounds." As noted above for what? 1. Were too confident. 2. To receive funding. 3. American-style stupidity. They even shoot clumsily.
Remember the signs in "Peculiarities of national fishing" "Gas, Without gas" This is how you have to shoot.

[vadson]

I think that the second option, remember how they drove the zur to the Turks on board?

[HAM]

Unfortunately, this time they fired without gas ..

[aud13]

Sorry nothing exploded there ...
It seems Oleg Kaptsov is right in saying that not everything is so good with the Americans in missile defense.
Our teachings must be carefully analyzed and conclusions drawn.

[Nayhas]

Quote: aud13

Sorry nothing exploded there ...

what you bloodthirsty, do not mind the sailors then?

Quote: aud13

It seems Oleg Kaptsov is right in saying that not everything is so good with the Americans in missile defense.

Any ship has several levels of air defense, long-range air defense at USS Chancellorsville worked out in the summer. Now they are testing the near zone for which RIM-162 ESSM and Phalanx CIWS are responsible. At the USS Chancellorsville this year, a new modification of the Aegis Baseline 9 was installed and in this regard they are testing. Before this incident, they were successful. Most likely, 20 mm did not work properly. Phalanx CIWS, there’s nothing wrong with that, they’ll debug it, but the question is how to organize the safety of testing, it’s a puncture ...

[sasska]

do not engage in demagogy - sailors under the contract serve there, and not by order of the USSR Minister of Defense. They knew what they were doing.

[Good Ukraine]

Quote: Nayhas

Before this incident, they were successful. Most likely, 20 mm did not work properly. Phalanx CIWS, there’s nothing wrong, they’ll debug

What, have the Phalanxes still not debugged?
And what odes to American weapons you, "dear", sang yesterday, And how hail "Onyx" and "Caliber".
The Americans did not have "SAW", but "LESOPOVAL".
Even after the collapse of the USSR, they really did not screw anything up. ONE PONTS.

[Walking]

Is Phalanx about 30 years old, if not more, and is still not debugged?

[Zerstorer]

Happy news. The mood was raised! Thank. It is unlikely that this was specially rigged (to obtain financing), because Too many for this on the fifth point would fall.

[strel212]

Or maybe it's "misinformation". That would bring down the table, and that they would not rush to develop new anti-ship missiles. Are the Americans really stupid enough to publicize these tests?

[Kowalsky]

Nifiga yourself "full real"! Okay, they didn't shoot down, but the rocket hit the target and people were injured. These are teachings. I don't even want to imagine how they test nuclear weapons :)

[SEM]

Well, who else wants to write that everything is bad in Russia? let the Americans regret it better!

[Vitaminchik05]

There are 2 options: - "set up" to promote the budget for cutting the bubble and modernizing the air defense, or they screwed up the truth and did not wait for themselves - they thought they would shoot down until the last - so they did not eliminate the rocket (the operator simply did not have time to press the button, although I would have entered the ship so I did not direct the rocket - it would be possible to miss a little - to direct 100 meters to the side - the conditions are the same ....). If you screw up, then there is no chance of knocking down a flock of "Onyxes", "Mosquitoes" or "Granites" ... By the way, if the photo is not "plywood", then there were also ideal conditions (imagine, even a slight sea agitation, an unexpected volley from -under the water - while you drop the coffee, you realize that there are a couple of minutes left to live - like not a training blank ...)

[Black Colonel]

Intrigues of "Avtobaza"!

[NKVD]

I laugh. The vaunted Aegis couldn’t bring down the training and to the sound one. Whereas with our supersonic Onyxes and Caliber they are even more so with dozens of missiles. Here the American Navy needs to go under water

[Black Colonel]

They need to draw a waterline for the most gothic.

[ZU-23]

Haha, congratulations to the Americans, and here some even pray for your Ajis, talk about him as about God

[Vitaminchik05]

Quote: NKVD

I laugh. The vaunted Aegis couldn’t bring down the training and to the sound one. Whereas with our supersonic Onyxes and Caliber they are even more so with dozens of missiles. Here the American Navy needs to go under water

You can’t go there - they wait ... :)

[admrall]

They surrender full pri.rki

[Ivanovich47]

They that shot at the ship with people? M. Zadornov in such cases said: Well stupid!

[ed65b]

The star showed the teachings of the armor go in a column beautifully fired by rockets and hit targets. Then it was the turn to show cannon fire. launched a target airplane and let's play it, didn’t hit it at all, and it flies in circles so beautifully, as a result it was shot down by a rocket. After that, I asked myself a question and why the hell are he guns for? Maybe amers also ask themselves such a question.

[Nayhas]

Quote: ed65b

Maybe amers also ask themselves such a question.

Quite rightly, it's high time. They have SeaRAM more reliable, no rotating parts and feed mechanisms (a headache in maintenance), they do not need ultra-precise and high-speed servo drives. The RIM-116 missile itself is induced by the thermal radiation of the RCC and the emitting signal of the GOS RCC, and 11 kg. b / h more reliable than uranium pigs.

[smirnov]

Today you’re just a lawyer)))

[poquello]

The maximum speed of the hit targets, m / s 700
Reaction time, with 5-10

Quote: Nayhas

Quote: ed65b

Maybe amers also ask themselves such a question.

Quite rightly, it's high time. They have SeaRAM more reliable, no rotating parts and feed mechanisms (a headache in maintenance), they do not need ultra-precise and high-speed servo drives. The RIM-116 missile itself is induced by the thermal radiation of the RCC and the emitting signal of the GOS RCC, and 11 kg. b / h more reliable than uranium pigs.

pictures are beautiful

[PLO]

Quite right, it's high time

any missile system has a large dead zone, which is much smaller in MZA
so the combination of MZA and SAM (Kortik, Broadsword, Panitsr-M) is the best way out

[Good Ukraine]

Quote: Nayhas

Quite rightly, it's high time. They have SeaRAM more reliable, no rotating parts and feeding mechanisms (headache in maintenance)

What are we talking about here? On their ships, including aircraft carriers, they cannot establish a fan system. (For "experts" I will explain - this is a sanitary system for draining biological waste. Roughly speaking - a latrine. To understand everything, even hairdressers, it is a toilet).
So imagine the situation, - the RCC flies, and the toilet does not work on an aircraft carrier. The crew knows that the rocket will hit, and 6 gallant American GAYS together produce vital products.
Here is FUN
And here we are about rockets. The main thing is not to guess!

[poquello]

Quote: ed65b

The star showed the teachings of the armor go in a column beautifully fired by rockets and hit targets. Then it was the turn to show cannon fire. launched a target airplane and let's play it, didn’t hit it at all, and it flies in circles so beautifully, as a result it was shot down by a rocket. After that, I asked myself a question and why the hell are he guns for? Maybe amers also ask themselves such a question.

Well, firstly, and suddenly it hits, and secondly, you can shoot at jeeps with Bedouins.

[PLO]

But didn’t you think how far this target was?
without this parameter, making any conclusions is pointless.

here is the firing 2006

[military]

lower a bit ... under the waterline ... and it would be very good ...

[expert2008]

And what is there to be surprised? Remember their vaunted stealth, which our old C-125 put in Yugoslavia, under the control of the Serbian crew. Since then, little has been heard about the invisible and invincible stealth bomber. And they prefer not to use the F-22 in real war. In my opinion, Aegis from the same opera is "expensive military jewelry".

[sasska]

hello from the Serbs

[Goldmitro]

<<< A BQM-74 missile target hit an American destroyer armed with an Aegis anti-missile system >>>
The devil (American missile defense) is not so terrible as he is painted!

[kafa]

them of their targets and missile defense systems and ours, although old but they work

[kafa]

target chopping block aegis haroshiy

[Chervonets]

That's great.
Super Yankee destroyer.
A simple subsonic blank without a charge perforated such a hole in the board.
3,14ndosam only against banana natives to fight.

[Son]

A trifle, but nice ...

[chunga-changa]

They don’t care about the tests, hitting a living ship.
As for the Aegis, they somehow forget that its main purpose is to intercept ballistic missiles in the acceleration phase. The fact that he is taught to intercept anti-ship missiles is a bonus, as if the S-300f fort was also taught to shoot at the shore or ships.

[silver_roman]

great news in light of the latest article comparing the TARK "Peter the Great" with Aegis.

[kafa]

but on the other hand it may be misleading

[kafa]

but on the other hand it may be misleading

[Borz]

The next tests of the Aegis turned into a loud “fart” in a deep puddle. And as for the statement about the malfunction of the target, blah blah blah, it’s like the saying “either the *** is long or the sleeves are short.”

[ed65b]

What if it were granite? not just one, but a flock? and onyxes to boot? AUG where are you?

[morpogr]

These are all the tricks of the FSB, in no other way taught the target to dodge. Or they controlled missile from a submarine.

[Averias]

There’s something I don’t understand, there’s something I’m really confused about. Almost the same thing, the other day it was called like this: “An American drone crashed into a cruiser off the coast of California.”

Now it turns out that it was a target missile. Although the description of the accident completely coincides, and there were two victims, and the ship was a cruiser. Well, who to believe? Or rather, how? What is this, chasing a sensation?

[Nayhas]

Quote: Averias

There’s something I don’t understand, there’s something I’m really confused about. Almost the same thing, the other day it was called like this: “An American drone crashed into a cruiser off the coast of California.”

The Chukar aerial target is actually a UAV; it is controlled by an operator simulating the behavior of a particular aircraft. Those. In theory there is no error.

[Averias]

I agree with you. But the article itself and the context in it form the impression that it was precisely a UAV (and since it’s in the ocean, it means it’s deck-based, otherwise what would a UAV do in the vastness of the ocean without an aircraft carrier). And the photo for that article, and not it, is an attack UAV and not a target missile.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Averias

And the photo for that article, and not it, is an attack UAV and not a target missile.

But what difference does it make whether you die from friendly fire or from an enemy blank?
The point is that the vaunted Aegis has failed once again...

[nnz226]

And they hung banners: “Gorshkov, be afraid! Aegis is at sea!” Aegis at sea - they aimed for a long time, trained, hit a blank (subsonic) and what??? Hole in the body. About the raid of "Granites", "Basalts" (old anti-ship missiles), "Mosquitoes" and "Onyxes" and others like them, it’s scary to imagine what will happen. As they say: “They will die before they can lower the flag.”

[roller2]

I read the article and what made the comments smile was that everyone was enthusiastically savoring the failure of the American anti-aircraft gunners. For the sake of objectivity, the author did not even try to provide statistics on successful and unsuccessful interceptions. It is simply incorrect to judge simply a single unsuccessful interception; examples of unsuccessful S-300 launches were given above; you can find a video of the Tunguska where the armor could not shoot down a low-speed drone with artillery fire at a distance of 1.5 km; it had to be finished off with a rocket.
So, minus the article for lack of objectivity.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Well, actually, Aegis is a layered defense system, which means the target missile passed all three lines. And this is not the same as the failure of one air defense system.

[vadson]

Well, in this case, statistics on the interception of anti-ship missiles by berks, preferably low-altitude and preferably supersonic, please go to the studio. Let's discuss. Let's discuss.
They wrote recently that the radar on berks is a compromise, it is not intended to combat anti-ship missiles. hence this mess. but IMHO of course

[roller2]

But you can write whatever you want. Has anyone actually checked this??

[Rus2012]

Quote: 528Obrp

The news is great! Only it would be better if they did not know this!

They have already classified the incident, just in case -
http://warfiles.ru/show-42908-flot-ssha-zasekretil-podrobnosti-stolknoveniya-bes
pilotnika-s-raketnym-kreyserom.html
The US Navy has coded the details of the collision drone with a missile cruiser
Details of the drone attack during a scheduled cruiser exercise off the coast of California have become known. It was previously reported that the incident occurred during a scheduled cruiser exercise off the coast of California. According to preliminary data, during the flight the drone suffered a breakdown and fell onto the side of a warship.
But later published photos of damage to the USS Chancellorsville missile cruiser, there was a side opening in the ship's superstructure as a result of a missile target.
The 60-cm hole in the USS Chancellorsville (CG 62) URV cruiser add-on with the latest Aegis (Baseline 9) ASM system from the BQM-74 target missile during the Combat System Ship Qualification Trials of this very "latest version of automated battle control systems" .
In the absence of any official explanations, it is rather difficult to determine the exact cause, but our colleague Prokhor Tebin assumes that everything happened because the ship did not plan to actually use air defense weapons during the exercises (except for tracking the object).
When the unexpected happened, it was too late to launch the missile defense system, and there was no time to switch the CIWS from manual (which is practiced during exercises) to automatic mode. If CIWS was used, it was unsuccessful. Those. this event does not tell us that Aegis is ungodly outdated and cannot cope with its tasks. But the lack of clear explanations from the fleet is surprising.
Recall that as a result of the incident, two crew members of the missile cruiser USS Chancellorsville were injured. Damage to the ship at the moment hidden from prying eyes and all information about the incident kept secret.

[Jager]

How beautifully it would have exploded if it had a warhead. Carefully entered the superstructure - 101% guaranteed DESTRUCTION of the ship. Considering the proximity of containers and getting into the wheelhouse, as well as the complete lack of serious armor. If they were following it, then they knew that something was wrong with the rocket. And in order to avoid an incident, they had to put the system on alert. Most likely the crew was in the terminal stage of deer disease. Plus, not all of the ship's systems were ready. And again a question for the crew.

[Peaceful military]

It's gratifying. And I remember that last week we were told how the vaunted Aegis shoots down rockets in batches...

[sonik-007]

One thing confuses me - why is it hitting so high? Usually they aim for the cellars/engine below the water line...

[Andrey57]

It was lucky that they didn’t drive their blanks into the missile launch containers, they slightly missed, otherwise there would have been nothing to classify

[vadson]

Well, the rocket was theirs, it also succumbed to them, and just like that it walked along the bridge

[yur]

Well, they not only intercept, but also cannot get where they need to go.

[typhoon7]

Quote: military

lower a bit ... under the waterline ... and it would be very good ...

Yes, in this case one could shed tears of emotion.

[Silhouette]

Before gloating about this rather murky story, it would behoove us to understand and clarify the following:
1. "Aegis" is a missile control system, not the weapon itself. The control system does not shoot down missiles
2. Artillery systems in missile defense are ineffective in principle.
3. The probability of shooting down a missile with artillery tends to zero. In our navy, this task is not only not practiced, but also not set.
4. You need to understand well the difference between air defense and missile defense

[Dmitriy1975]

What are you doing? What about 630, “Duet”, “Chestnut”?

[Silhouette]

I don’t remember any cases where 630 shot down at least one rocket target during shooting. "Duet" is not on any ship. I haven't heard of "Kashtan".

[Dmitriy1975]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srZ18LUrjFE

[Silhouette]

Well, I looked....."Kashtan" shoots down a target with a rocket. Moreover, the target flies at an altitude of 400 -500 meters, and not like the amers - 10 m.... Do you catch the difference?

[spirit]

OOPS!!! HELLO TO JAPAN'S MOM)) The Chinese are probably already doing round dances at their headquarters. Now is the chance to get to the Emperor of Japan on ships, and not from a bridge made from the corpses of their soldiers.. I can already see Chinese troops sailing towards the disputed islands

[typhoon7]

Quote: Ivan79

And if it would be our Caliber or Onyx? The vessel would already lie at the bottom of the sea.

Exactly, that’s exactly what they thought of, so that even with the force of a dynamic blow they could crack them like nuts, and already cause unacceptable damage inside the body. I’m looking at the bottom photo, it’s already on the nearest approaches that they are trying to topple the rocket with volcanoes. Nice picture.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Hello. And someone here just now assured that Aegis Granites will be shot down in batches. But it turns out that it won’t even shoot down a P-5. It looks like Aegis is advertised bullshit, in fact it can only withstand Iranian F-4s and other rarities that are in service with third parties countries

[archi.sailor]

upvoted, very good photo below

[archi.sailor]

upvoted, very good photo below

[Letterksi]

The good news

[ia-ai00]

Tests of the US Navy anti-missile system failed

... and it pleases!

[coserg 2012]

Someone gave the artillery a slap on the head during firing! What if it were 1500 axes??????

[Arkan]

The elastic band hit and the panties fell off! A subsonic, low-flying, small-sized target hit another target, almost the same in characteristics, but larger in size. "IGIS(a)" has sciatica.

[sxn278619]

But in http://warfiles.ru/show-37986-vpervye-publichno-pokazali-unikalnyy-kompleks-razv
edki-poziciy-raket-i-artillerii-zoopark-1m.html
they write something else
“In the absence of any official explanation, it is quite difficult to determine the exact reason, but our colleague Prokhor Tebin suggests that everything happened due to the fact that the ship did not plan to actually use air defense systems during the exercise (except for escorting the object).

When the unexpected happened, it was too late to launch the missile defense system, and there was no time to switch the CIWS from manual (which is practiced during exercises) to automatic mode. If CIWS was used, it was unsuccessful. Those. this event does not tell us that Aegis is ungodly outdated and cannot cope with its tasks. "

[Silhouette]

People, do you want me to tell you the great secret of all times and peoples? In our navy, missile defense exercises have never been conducted and are not being carried out. There is no such learning task. There are air defense tasks. Air defense is the reflection of aircraft attacks.
Not rockets. Rockets are "Harpoons". And we are learning to shoot at airplanes. Which simulate the corresponding target missiles (La-17 is like a Mig-17). I repeat once again - there is no such task in the fleet - ABM - 1, ABM - 2. There are ostentatious shootings at ancient missile targets, for the prize of the Commander-in-Chief, etc. We do not and never have had targets that imitate Harpoons and Exocets. We never prepared to shoot them down and never tried.

[tungus]

I can’t resist answering.
11.09.2013 // 16: 51
The Russian fleet, which yesterday started military exercises off the coast of Syria, working out the interception of cruise missiles on the characteristics similar to the type of American missiles "Tomahawk". It is reported by the American portal United States Marine Corps.
According to the source referenced by the authors, Russian defiantly carried out military exercises and were part of the negotiations on the open radio frequencies, showing that they do not pose any difficulty to destroy American missiles.
telegrafist.org

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Silhouette

Not rockets. Rockets are "Harpoons". And we are learning to shoot at airplanes. Which simulate the corresponding target missiles

Don't talk nonsense! Northern Fleet, Black Sea Fleet, Baltic Fleet, where I had to serve, always prize-winning (And not only!) shooting was carried out at missile targets. And we always asked for the La-17 - they didn’t give it, but they gave us the P-15RM or 120. We tried to disown the latter, but it didn’t always work out.
As I got older, I had to communicate with the Amers, coordinating plans for joint actions, such as at Baltops. So, to my surprise, I learned that almost all shooting (except for experimental shooting, when they hand over and accept new weapons) is carried out on simulators, maybe on live targets - EXPENSIVE! And here, look: they are making new targets based on our MiG-21s, and they are shooting at the PM. Apparently, in fact, the fleet is being prepared for something serious. Oh, all this is not good...

[Muadipus]

Tests of the US Navy anti-missile system failed

- what short and sweet news! :)


PSOne thing is bad, now the Americans know for sure that their missile defense cannot shoot down missiles. it's a pity, they can improve.

[daem00n]

Quote: Corsair

Quote: 123dv

Full bullshit. The striking effect is just a hole in the add-in.

Here is the striking effect of the "dummy" complex "Redut" 3 M44 on the Ukrainian dry cargo ship "inadvertently" (or simply carelessly) entered the closed firing area.
By a lucky accident, there were no casualties, the cargo ship radio operator, whose radio room had to be hit, was an amateur ... of crosswords , and went down to him in his cabin ...

I worked for the company that owned this ship - it was an SRTMk converted into an Istanbul - Odessa shuttle. The radio operator drank tea on the sly from the crew in his cabin with the medical technician... We entered the exercise area because NAVTEX was not working... The missile pierced right through it, although the superstructure there was aluminum, it could not be welded for a year; it stood in our factory for a long time. There were no casualties, but there were many who were scared, so to speak...

[Backfire]

It’s even somehow awkward to interrupt your rejoicing, gentlemen. But have any of you read the original article? For example here: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ship-drone-20131117,0,3916047.story

Key Quote: "The drone, controlled from Point Mugu, was being used during a routine exercise meant to test the ship's radar system's tracking. The test was not designed for the ship's ability to shoot down the drone."

Translation: "A drone (unmanned aerial vehicle) controlled from Point Magu was used during a routine exercise designed to test the tracking capabilities of the ship's radar. This exercise (test) is not designed to shoot a drone off a ship.

There is still another version: yes, they say it’s nonsense, they completely crap themselves, and now they write it off as the fact that they didn’t intend to shoot, etc. But this is the real price of the vaunted American technology... etc. ecstasy.

Then, after the end of the ecstasy, try to think - would they launch anti-ship missiles against a real combat unit during exercises? The reason is simple and banal - anything can happen, but how much does a destroyer with the Aegis system cost there now?
But there are things worse than “vampires” on approach - if something happened, the lawyers of the dead sailors and their families would tear at the British flag more abruptly than a flock of anti-ship missiles at an extremely low altitude and speed M = 2,5.

Further, before any exercises, an Exercise Plan is drawn up (names may be different), it is agreed upon, approved and signed. Have any of you, at least once in your life, submitted or approved a plan for even a “trivial” operation for... well, never mind? If so, then you, like me, will understand that even in severe delirium, no one would approve such an operation - launching an anti-ship missile at a real ship with people on board.

[Sirs]

All this is bullshit, they most likely tested something else, and these are production costs.

[series]

Quote: Jamal

and 2,5M is not the limit, in a possible modern war between serious opponents the speeds will be higher.

those. the missiles themselves... out of fear of being shot down, they will increase the throttle on forced rocket engines??!.. let's say... up to 5-6М ...
All my life I’ve been flying “like a fool” at 2,5M, but here it’s WAR!....

[CreepyUknow]

A striking conclusion to the recent tensions over aircraft carriers, air defense ships and missiles on our topvar submarines.

[Leonid Har]

Let Russia buy and install a sea-based Pantsir-M. And no one else will get hurt. Neither the sailors nor the ship

[Mista_dj]

Bravo Aegis!
Keep it up, Omirikans!

[duchy]

In fact, any ship going to sea is military service. That says it all. The Americans were probably drinking coffee together or doing something else, that’s the whole conversation. They clicked everything in the world.

[Alic]

Failures happen to everyone, although the hole in the American is only pleasing