Published satellite photos of the mysterious Chinese "superguns"

The satellite image shows two cannons mounted on concrete foundations (one is 33,5 long and one meter is second 24). The first pictures appeared between September 2010 of the year and December of 2011 of the year, satellite imagery confirmed that in July of 2013 of the year the guns continued to be in this place. Probably, these guns are used to test high-speed ultra-long-range projectiles.

China has historically shown an interest in building long-range artillery. In the 1970s, experiments were conducted to create the Xianfen supergun as part of the 640 anti-missile project. The program was canceled in 1980's.

In 1990's, it became known that China created a test bench similar to the Iraqi Babus supercannon (Project Babylon, photo below), developed by engineer Gerald Bull. It is known that this designer in 1980-ies took an active part in the design of Chinese ultra-long artillery systems. The work was carried out by the artillery design bureau of the China North Industrial Corporation (China North Industries Corporation - Norinco).

Artillery guns in Baotou are structurally similar to the Babylon, which theoretically could shoot at extra large distances or destroy low-orbit satellites. Although these gun systems are similar in concept to the super-gun Bulla, it seems unlikely that Beijing will use them to create long-range artillery or conduct anti-satellite operations, since it creates ballistic missiles for these purposes.

In addition, these devices can be a prototype of the railgun, although this is also unlikely, since it cannot be seen near a large energy source. Another possibility is that China is using these outdated devices to test heavy duty projectiles.

Comments

[Same lech]

it's not guns — it's big sticks for eating rice.

[APES]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

it's not guns

This is a Chinese intelligence project with the goal of:
1. so that everyone breaks their head thinking that it
2. pulled into a costly and futile arms race with China

[Grandson of Veteran]

".. to shoot at ultra-long distances or to destroy low-orbit satellites .."
From artillery on satellites ??? Apparently, I have not woken up yet!

[Tersky]

Quote: Veteran's grandson

From artillery on satellites ??? Apparently, I have not woken up yet!

Read here “BIG BABYLON” SADDAM'S SUPER-STAR - THE NEXT REASON FOR INTELLIGENCE, MYTH OR SAME REALITY?

[Interface]

Yes, everything is non-standard there: rice is eaten with chopsticks, scorched by cannons on satellites.

[SSR]

Quote: Grandson of Veteran

".. to shoot at ultra-long distances or to destroy low-orbit satellites .."
From artillery on satellites ??? Apparently, I have not woken up yet!

Who knows? The tank makes a shot with ammunition like "Krasnopol" and then another fluff, charged at 20-30 km and then the engines are cut in .... What am I talking about? And besides, there is always some truth in the joke.

[goldfinger]

From Minsk. As a child, I read Jules Verne - "From a Cannon to the Moon". Probably an illustration for the book.

Quote: Veteran's grandson

From artillery on satellites ??? I AM

[Lord of the Sith]

And where are the super-high-quality images from space, on which even newspapers could be read? What kind of blur images and investigations of journalists?

[Tersky]

Quote: Sith Lord

What kind of blur images and investigations of journalists?

What shots are such and considerations-blurred,

[carbofo]

Quote: Tersky

What pictures are such and considerations-blurred

A banana republic is enough to be bombed when democratic values ​​are introduced.

[Mikhail3]

C'mon ... On the basis of the four murky shadows, the types were named, they reasoned about the prospects, and plunged into history ... On the basis of these pictures and blurry considerations, you can’t give birth. Now, if you connect the investigator’s journalist with his secret weapon - the finger from which he sucks such stories ...

[PSih2097]

Quote: Tersky

What shots are such and considerations-blurred,

sharpness and exposure forgot to set ...

[Mercenary]

this is they themselves. newspapers are not visible but pegs for building a new wall are clearly visible

[Civil]

in the era of rocket technology ... why guns, anyway, how to uncover DORU)

[GSH-18]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

it's not guns — it's big sticks for eating rice.

They were unexpectedly discovered near a mountain of boiled rice disguised as a pyramid.

[RUSS]

Maybe this is a means of delivering goods to the moon, like J. Verne?

[Fregate]

No, this is what would throw troops behind enemy lines. He put a company in a cannon, an arson wick and ... good luck.

[ramzes1776]

Quote: Fregate

He put a company in a gun, an arson wick and ... good luck

To each core and forward to the exploits

[Stiletto]

Therefore, "From a Cannon to the Moon" by Jules Verne is read in China too.

[the47th]

Apparently, they want to check that the moon is actually from cheese.

[Ihrek]

Yes, let even the moon, even Saturn. If only not for Russia.

[major071]

The Chinese put down two metal blanks for a laugh and are waiting for the United States to guess what kind of "secret weapon" it is. They distract bastards from other developments.

[Vasia kruger]

There is a suspicion that these are purely scientific objects. They are studying prospects, they are unlikely to seriously plan to hammer from satellites from cannons, but science does.

[svp67]

It seems that now China has SO MUCH that it is enough for VERY MUCH ...

[RUSS]

There is money, plans have their own orbital station, plus the Martian program.

[sanyabasik]

Quote: svp67

It seems that now China has SO MUCH that it is enough for VERY MUCH ...

So they did not have the Winter Olympics. only Summer ...

[alone]

interesting, but who did they copy the gun from? Or did they do it themselves?

[Sochi]

What guns? these are two telescopes, they did it, they did it, they can’t take it out ... and the whole world is racking its brains.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Sochi

What guns? these are two telescopes, they did it, they did it, they can’t take it out ... and the whole world is racking its brains.

Perhaps these are the first prototypes of pipes for the Russia-China gas pipeline ??

[Muadipus]

Yes, let them develop it, it’s not always plagiarism. Suddenly something sensible will turn out, then we will plagiarize them too))

[Kyrgyz]

IMHO this is not necessarily a gun

[nikcris]

A pad in black or guns in white slightly paint?

[sasska]

what for? then there will be no intrigue

[Corsair]

Quote from the article:

In 1990's, it became known that China created a test bench similar to the Iraqi Babus supercannon (Project Babylon, photo below), developed by engineer Gerald Bull. It is known that this designer in 1980-ies took an active part in the design of Chinese ultra-long artillery systems. The work was carried out by the artillery design bureau of the China North Industrial Corporation (China North Industries Corporation - Norinco).

In the whole "vague" story with the "Babylon supergun", it is noteworthy that the Canadian engineer, long-range artillery specialist Gerald Bull was shot in 1990 "under unclear circumstances, by unidentified persons" ...

Various options for such a mysterious death were littered in the press, and the involvement of Israeli special services was not considered in the last place ...

[Encoder]

We have inflatable tanks with their guns, what's wrong?

[Ivanovich47]

There is no data when these tools worked (tested). Maybe it was back in the last century, at a certain stage in the development of artillery in China. Unfortunately, the article does not mention the range of these guns and where they are located.

[AK-47]

These are the terracotta guns of the terracotta army.

[ICT]

or destroy low-orbit satellites.
rather launch these same LEO satellites. since even the devices assembled by this engineer in the USA at one of the ranges from the decommissioned guns of battleships fired at a "height" of 100 km

[knn54]

-TIT: rather launch the same low-orbit satellites.
In 1995, the Chinese press published a photograph of a 21-meter gun with a caliber of 85 millimeters with an estimated firing range of 320 kilometers. She is able to keep Taiwan and South Korea under threat of shelling. The essence of the idea is to give the projectile a high initial speed and make it fly most of the way in the stratosphere, where the air resistance is much less than at the Earth’s surface.
And treaties restricting the use of missile weapons (including missile defense) do not apply to artillery. Well, an adjustable ultra-long-range cannon, as compared to a missile warhead, is both a cheaper product and a hard-hit target. So "super guns", it’s too early to bury ...
In January 2007, the Chinese satellite, launched into its polar orbit with an altitude of 853 kilometers, destroyed the Fen Yun-1 satellite, which had served its Chinese meteorological satellite, by direct hit.
To launch the antisatellite, a promising solid fuel carrier rocket of the Kaituozhe type was used, which could have been launched from a self-propelled launcher. The missile, which threw the first Chinese killer satellite into space, launched from an unidentified area near the Sichan cosmodrome (“base 27”), possibly just from the mobile “table” ...

[Known who]

So quiet glanders and create an electromagnetic gun.

[papik09]

quiet glanders, take nuna in quotes, like so "quiet glanders" , that is, to dig a trench by crawling, in front of you, without raising a known place, the next crawling, deepens, and so on, until "full growth"

[Drosselmeyer]

This is not from the word "sniff", but from the word "glanders" (from the French sape - hoe) - a tunnel, a trench dug out during an attack on an open area in order to gradually approach the enemy's fortified position. Thus, it is correct to write "quietly".
Two options are known: volatile and flipping glanders (quiet, secretive). Flying work was carried out from the surface of the earth under the cover of a previously prepared protective embankment from barrels and bags of earth, and a cross over was carried out from the bottom of the initial ditch or trench without going to the surface.

[Diesel]

Another "Chinese" super throw.

[GSH-18]

These are spy Chinese pipes! They work by the method of throwing across the border, after which everything that is within their reach is absorbed into China! Be careful!

[SEM]

Well, China is developing more like the USSR, in the same vein, so if we take our history, long-range guns were also created + infe.

[Captain Vrungel]

In 60 years old. in the good Soviet times, in parades, on Red Square, 2 pairs of self-propelled gun mounts with barrel lengths, like those of the Kmtays, were held.

[egod]

Or maybe it's a Chinese calider.

[individual]

This is the Chinese analogue of "Baron Munchausen's cannon" for a nuclear flight to the moon.

In China, almost 1,5 billion people and 500-700 million of their Kulibins.
If everything is considered satellites are not enough.

[scientist]

This is a unit of Chinese intelligence officers "Baron von Munchausen" on manned shells

[Algor73]

I would not be so ironic about this news. Projects are closed, but developments remain (remember how many projects there were under the Union, how many were closed due to inexpediency, through imperfect technologies, etc.). But the world does not stand still. And in vain they smirk that "from cannons and satellites." It is quite possible when shooting with a special missile projectile. China is moving forward.

[Cotras]

At one time, the Soviet Union experienced the emission of a laser beam using an explosion of waste.
Maybe China came up with something perfect? not one-time so to speak.
Although I, too, are inclined to the version about Munichhausen.)))

[Koronik]

But I'm sorry, from the pictures you can’t determine the gun in any way or something else.
"In addition, these devices could be the prototype of a railgun, although this is also unlikely, since there is no large energy source nearby."
Everything is based on guesses, maybe this or that, maybe not.

[papik09]

"railgun" .... And maybe a lohoTRONA?

[horoh]

A large source of energy does not have to be visible. A small underground reactor, in theory they exist, but in reality, who knows, technology does not stand still.

[APASUS]

Quote: horoh

A large source of energy does not have to be visible. A small underground reactor, in theory they exist, but in reality, who knows, technology does not stand still.

Or maybe this is a test of a mini reactor for the same railgun.
Since a gun means it’s necessary to shoot down satellites or scare neighbors?

[Jurkovs]

This can be anything, including experimental laser systems with a pumping system through an explosion of conventional ammunition or an attempt to obtain kinetic weapons or something else. Why guns?

[starhina01]

no one will understand anything from such pictures. so you can safely fantasize hopping soul

[predator.3]

We also have such a gun!

[maxvet]

it's not a gun, it's a bombard

[Corsair]

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Quote: predator.3

We also have such a gun!

There are at least two such "Tsar Cannons" in the world:
- one in our Kremlin;
- the second (exact copy) in the city of Donetsk (Ukraine), installed in the park named after Shcherbakov, as a gift as a sign of friendship between cities and peoples ...

[kmike]

Or such! Huge destructive power.

[Tambov we ...]

Quote: RUSS

Martian program.

And, I wonder, who will they rip her off from? None of the people have yet flown to Mars.

[Ruslan]

you mock here, but the bull created an interesting path for the development of barrel artillery. if the Chinese doper up to his ideas, then this is not funny. as I read that it was precisely for the weapon Babylon in Iraq that the Mossad banged, because were afraid that he would finish it. No wonder it’s possible. he had a project for putting small-sized satellites into low Earth orbit. He kind of advised South Africa when they created au G5. the Chinese may try to create, for example, an anti-ship system. a heavy projectile will be fired at a height of 100 km, and then it will dive on an aircraft carrier for example. like this.

[Jogan-xnumx]

Again, the Chinese are xeroxing something ... It would be good for them to palm off. Or Mouse at the worst ... let them practice.

[maxvet]

Mouse is what you need. The crew-commander, gunner, mechwater, loader and a thousand tankers who pedal

[Spectrum]

With this quality of images, you can give out a Gazprom pipe for a super gun, but generally measure one cut 7 times, and not vice versa.

[Commander]

It used to be possible to laugh at China, but now they can carve out anything at night with files: a tank, an airplane, a gun !!! And they all copy it as theirs !! Well, the picture can be anything.

[mithridate]

the picture is very fuzzy to draw any conclusions

[Keeper]

could shoot ultra-long distances or destroy low-orbit satellites.

It would be better if we learned to clean the Earth’s orbit from space debris! And they gathered flour from him to crush ...

[saag]

I watched a documentary for a long time. in my opinion it’s just about Gerald Bull, he had an idea to make a cheap means of launching low-orbit satellites, it was a hybrid of a rocket and a projectile, maybe it would have worked out if he had been given to finish

[alex86]

As far as I remember, it turned out quite well in South Africa, the shell went into orbit. There was a rather strange detail - the projectile was over-caliber, on the set it was visible (the quality was poor and from a distance) that the length of the barrel before the shot was longer (due to the over-projectile). There were no technical explanations.

[axay032]

In the article, such nonsense is written that I do not want to discuss it

[Uzer 13.]

There is such a profession, suckers. Shoes. For general use, satellite images adapted to the civilian version and having a resolution of not better than 20m \ mm are allowed, and the military have a resolution of 0.5m \ mm. Only pictures of cities are taken in more detail so that streets and buildings are visible. The military decryptors put their usual markings on this civilian photo and it was presented as satellite intelligence material (this image must have a registration number) .Therefore, you can’t see anything on it. Here is a real shot of the gun. The Chinese gunner is looking at the satellites of the enemies he’s going to knock down.

[patriot2]

Here it is, the realization of the dream of science fiction writer Jules Verne "From a Cannon to the Moon"!

[Bosk]

It seems to me that the idea of ​​launching satellites with the help of guns is slipping through here, although the projectile satellite should be a very "narrow" specialization and I'm afraid that no one will like this specialization ...

[zennon]

Here about super long-range artillery:
http://www.vokrugsveta.ru/vs/article/2251/

[VadimL]

It is unlikely that they are guns at all. Upon careful inspection of the photo, it looks more like the shaded walls of light buildings against a light background.

[Asan Ata]

Judging by the rut that is nearby, the pipe is not 33 meters, but only 16 meters. And this is, so to speak, home sizes.

[zvereok]

In my opinion, this is our government that has launched a super project to create huge walking robots for guarding borders. The Chinese are just outsourcing.

[Yves762]

Satellite shots - 21st Century Rorschach Test ...

[Nikita_Pilot]

I wonder what caliber is needed and how to aim it to bring down a satellite ?