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Experts from the United States from photographs found that Russia is developing ultra-long UAV

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Experts from the United States from photographs found that Russia is developing ultra-long UAV

Armed with the army of the Russian Federation, it is possible that in the near future an unmanned long-range aircraft will appear. Interestingly, this was stated by the American edition of The Washington Free Beacon, analyzing images from the factory in Tatarstan, which appeared in February, but were later removed.


American experts have suggested that this would be a shock UAV flying at medium or high altitude. These conclusions were made on the basis of the span of the wing and the V-shaped tail. Experts also noted that the device is similar to the American MQ-Reaper UAV.

Despite the fact that the new Russian drone will be able to fly long distances, he, according to American experts, is still much inferior in conducting an air battle to drones of other countries, for example, the United States, which have already proven themselves in combat operations. For example, recently an American drone eliminated the leader of the Pakistani Taliban.

In Russia, the drone, the development of which is conducted in secrecy, is likely to go into service in the 2016 year. According to experts, Russia still still relies on manned aircraft, therefore, as far as unmanned vehicles are concerned, the country is lagging behind.

Note that some time ago, Russian experts said that by 2015-2016, Russian unmanned aircraft would become one of the lightest in the world. As the engineers of the Tver All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Synthetic Fiber (VNIISV), a member of the holding company RT-Chemcomposite, have reported, a unique technology has been developed to produce high-strength reinforcing filaments from ultrahigh-molecular polyethylene (UHMWPE). According to scientists, the new threads in the composition of composite materials will reduce the mass of the airframe of unmanned aerial vehicles 2-2,5 times.
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  1. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 15 November 2013 10: 24
    47
    Yes bumble imagine imagine ... !!! To the evil of all
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 11: 22
      +4
      Here there is a video, I’m probably talking about it, only it flies so far not so to say the least.
      http://play.md/126061 не ютубовское не вставляется,сами по ссылке проходите.
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 15 November 2013 11: 32
        +5
        Hmm, the video is not impressive sad
      2. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 15 November 2013 12: 33
        16
        oh oh oh, if the UAV didn’t fall as fiercely as the Challenger or Calambia, this does not mean that you must immediately put an end to it!
        1. smile
          smile 15 November 2013 17: 45
          +4
          Bashkaus
          Yes, no one puts anything on anything, beat and beat, this is normal for any new technology in all countries. Moreover, it really can be another drone.
        2. Horst78
          Horst78 15 November 2013 18: 06
          +4
          I was not impressed by the fall, but the takeoff upset. Good luck to the designers.
      3. Dmitriy1975
        Dmitriy1975 15 November 2013 13: 21
        -3
        It’s not that at all, I don’t have any words, Sasha, you bukh silt so easy in life.
        1. smile
          smile 15 November 2013 17: 41
          +4
          Dmitriy1975
          Well, and why is this pathos and indignation? If something goes wrong - let me know, but don’t be dumb, choking on me.
      4. fzr1000
        fzr1000 15 November 2013 13: 49
        +4
        But the pilot did not die.
      5. Captain
        Captain 15 November 2013 14: 49
        +5
        A promising strike UAV looks like this
        http://vdmsti.ru/img/newsline/2013/02/08/8898961_news_bigpic.jpg
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 15 November 2013 15: 47
          +1
          So he is like a video.
          1. mvg
            mvg 16 November 2013 02: 53
            0
            very similar, one dvtglo in the ass, and the second under the wings
      6. mirag2
        mirag2 15 November 2013 16: 03
        0
        There is no software there.
        1. iConst
          iConst 15 November 2013 16: 46
          +2
          Quote: mirag2
          There is no software there.

          There is a kamikaze rat sitting there. laughing

          I read somewhere that for the first homing missiles they tried to use trained pigeons: he was trained to peck the image of an airplane on a small screen in front of him, and behind the screen there were sensors.
      7. APASUS
        APASUS 15 November 2013 21: 04
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Here there is a video, I’m probably talking about it, only it flies so far not so to say the least.

        Damn. But you banch last year’s commercials. The news is old
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 15 November 2013 16: 28
      +8
      Quote: Scandinavian
      imagine developing.


      I am personally glad that the news about our weapons began to be learned from rivals, and not from "effective managers". Hopefully the zvizdabolam got a little bit covered. And then I'm tired of hearing about "unparalleled" developments by 2070.
      1. iConst
        iConst 15 November 2013 16: 39
        +2
        Quote: Botanologist
        I am personally pleased that they began to learn news about our weapons from rivals,

        Do not lose vigilance, comrade! The enemy is cunning and treacherous! laughing
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 15 November 2013 18: 38
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        I am personally glad that the news about our weapons began to be learned from rivals, and not from "effective managers". Hopefully the zvizdabolam got a little bit covered. And then I'm tired of hearing about "unparalleled" developments by 2070.

        Well, at least something useful from them laughing
        In terms of spying, they succeeded, although the conclusions about the air battle amused.
    3. Army1
      Army1 15 November 2013 16: 47
      +1
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Yes bumble imagine imagine ... !!! To the evil of all

      good Well, Americans confirmed that everything is nonsense.
      1. alone
        alone 15 November 2013 20: 21
        0
        what how photographs became common property? It's a state secret. It turns out that the Americans, without spending a dime, learned about state secrets. Disorder.
    4. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 15 November 2013 21: 26
      0
      If there are former EW servicemen on the site, tell me, can't all these flying and operator-controlled "toys" be jammed?
  2. 3935333
    3935333 15 November 2013 10: 28
    +6
    let's industrialists and scientists faster .... the guys still need to run them around ... they are very necessary now in Dagestan and everywhere where our boys continue to get there.
  3. Lindon
    Lindon 15 November 2013 10: 28
    +8
    Russia for UAVs in the role of catching up. What did the USA expect?
    We'll see if it can turn out to overtake the UAV market in the United States over time - and in the meantime, the United States is already starting a black PR company against the newly developed UAV.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 15 November 2013 10: 34
      14
      UAVs are more dependent on electronics. And here we always caught up, even in Soviet times. And now the situation is even worse, because Nobody sells modern means of development and production of electronics to us anyway. So you need to pull up the whole industry, and this is very expensive. Especially in light of the current economic situation.

      But the news is pleasing - since ours do not want to tell anything about our new products, let the Americans at least tell (with a certain degree of imagination - they, as you know, are very developed). Let's wait and see.
      1. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 15 November 2013 11: 33
        +3
        And now the situation is even worse, because Nobody sells modern means of development and production of electronics to us anyway. But in the military and industrial, not everything is so sad.
        1. Basileus
          Basileus 15 November 2013 13: 15
          +1
          Not everything is so bad with the military, yes. Just because the military does not chase nanometers, but prefer simpler and more reliable technologies. Nevertheless, in the West, technologies appear earlier, and, accordingly, can be used earlier by the military.
          1. mountain
            mountain 15 November 2013 23: 56
            0
            In the eighties he served in the SSK, visited warehouses. Do not believe all the world's manufacturers, electronics were present. both in detail and collected samples. Through fifth, and even tenth countries, it was necessary to acquire. And at the expense of the UAV, even when Serdyukov was at home, our manufacturers complained that we have developments, it’s easier and better flight performance than Israel. And again to electronics, America purchased defective manufacturing chips, China. And hundreds of thousands of boards are already in the finished product. In airplanes, rockets, in electronic equipment, in short everywhere. ))) Here you can buy it.
        2. max702
          max702 15 November 2013 16: 19
          +2
          So for this we have a lot of all kinds of special services that should seek the availability of these technologies, and it doesn’t matter how not to wash them like that, they don’t sell them - to steal, it’s impossible to steal .. then they’ll kill and steal (others will be more accommodating) huge money is leaving. here let them work, but how to cheek up and roll their eyes proving their importance they are masters, but real exhaust something is not observed.
      2. JonnyT
        JonnyT 15 November 2013 20: 44
        +1
        Sell ​​as they sell. For example, the French ... And just nanometers and miniaturization ... I recently participated in the project of supplying equipment to a Russian factory manufacturing a defense industry ...... the most important is that according to the documents everything is very peaceful ........
      3. Army1
        Army1 15 November 2013 21: 36
        0
        Quote: Basileus
        UAVs are more dependent on electronics. And here we always caught up, even in Soviet times. And now the situation is even worse, because Nobody sells modern means of development and production of electronics to us anyway. So you need to pull up the whole industry, and this is very expensive. Especially in light of the current economic situation.

        But the news is pleasing - since ours do not want to tell anything about our new products, let the Americans at least tell (with a certain degree of imagination - they, as you know, are very developed). Let's wait and see.


        Yes, the matter is not so much in these nanometers as in programming, and here we are ahead of everyone, if everything would be so bad, we would not have the best missiles, planes, ships in the world, we can do all the chips and stuff, and no worse, it’s just that we do not have mass production, namely MASS production, and single copies are expensive, so it’s cheaper to buy abroad, but I hope the situation is already changing. Microelectronics development priority.
        1. mamba
          mamba 15 November 2013 23: 51
          0
          Quote: Army1
          Yes, it's not so much in these nanometers ...

          Current trends in microelectronics are the creation of devices based on quantum periodic structures: wells, threads, dots and superlattices. And for this, it is necessary to grow semiconductor structures with quantum-dimensional layers, which is possible only on special growth equipment, which allows you to create layers with a thickness of one atom. It is not produced in Russia and is very expensive. Therefore your phrase that
          Quote: Army1
          we can do all the chips and stuff and no worse ...

          Unfortunately, not true.
          Quote: Army1
          it’s just that we don’t have mass production, namely MASS production, and single copies are expensive ...

          What kind of mass production are you talking about when horns and legs are left from the enterprises of the radio-electronic industry?
          Quote: Army1
          ... so it’s cheaper to buy abroad, but I hope the situation is already changing.

          So we buy from the Chinese, and then we are surprised that the "Protons" are falling and the satellites in orbit die like flies.
          Quote: Army1
          Microelectronics development priority.

          No, now nanoelectronics is a development priority.
          1. JonnyT
            JonnyT 19 November 2013 12: 10
            0
            unfortunately not true


            It is strange why, then, Israel, through shell companies, is trying to get information about the chip produced at the NIIP RAS, if we are so hopelessly behind ??? Maybe because this chip is the best in the world in survivability against EW and radiation ??? Yes clumsy, and performance is not very good, but reliability and survivability ... Russian technologies are some of the best in the world (if not the best)

            What kind of mass production are you talking about when horns and legs are left from the enterprises of the radio-electronic industry?


            Now the situation is changing for the better, they are rebuilding factories from ruins (for example, Angstrom). Actively purchasing new equipment and means of production .... far from the union but the prospects are very good

            Quote: mamba
            No, now nanoelectronics is a development priority.


            I agree with these .... we always catch up, while we restore microelectronics, they are actively developing nanoelectronics. I am glad that until they have achieved great and significant success.
    2. RBLip
      RBLip 15 November 2013 12: 39
      +3
      Quote: Lindon
      Russia for UAVs in the role of catching up. What did the USA expect?

      Russians, by habit, harness for a long time. and then ....
      1. iConst
        iConst 15 November 2013 16: 49
        +5
        Quote: RBLip
        Russians, by habit, harness for a long time. and then ....

        Russians out of habit spill for a long time, and then ... quickly go to the Kosovo airfield laughing
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      3. mamba
        mamba 15 November 2013 23: 59
        0
        Quote: RBLip
        Russians, by habit, harness for a long time. and then ....

        In the field of nanoelectronics, Red has been harnessing for a long time, but "here then" will not.
  4. Know-nothing
    Know-nothing 15 November 2013 10: 31
    +4
    Unobtrusive advertising "RT-Khimkompozit" wink
  5. Wedmak
    Wedmak 15 November 2013 10: 32
    18
    Despite the fact that the new Russian drone will be able to fly long distances, he, according to American experts, is still much inferior in conducting an air battle to drones of other countries, for example, the United States, which have already proven themselves in combat operations. For example, recently an American drone eliminated the leader of the Pakistani Taliban.

    How shoud I understand this? What kind of aerial combat are we talking about? wassat The leader of the Pakistani Taliban personally clashed in the air with a drone and lost? Americans, such Americans ....
    1. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 15 November 2013 10: 41
      +4
      I agree, they are inflating, as if the Taliban fought with a drone, it obviously flew to a safe distance and then shot a rocket at the sleeping Taliban and a mustache.
      It’s another matter if a drone could conduct air battles with manned aircraft and win battles, then yes, but for now, the drone is worth its money and is useless.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 15 November 2013 10: 45
        +8
        in the meantime, the drone is not worth its money and is useless.

        Well, that is not the case either. For reconnaissance, a drone is very useful, aiming strikes at a target, mapping, electronic warfare, signal repeater, etc.
        1. iConst
          iConst 15 November 2013 17: 00
          +3
          Quote: Wedmak
          Well, that is not the case either. For reconnaissance, a drone is very useful, aiming strikes at a target, mapping, electronic warfare, signal repeater, etc.

          And during breaks - pollinate gardens and fields from pests ... laughing

          Joke ...
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 15 November 2013 17: 24
            +2
            But in fact, in every joke ... It's just gorgeous - I programmed the airplane to fly over the field and pollinate and left to chase the teas. With a ton of "combat" load, how much will it circle? Several hundred hectares in half a day!
          2. Aljavad
            Aljavad 15 November 2013 23: 36
            0
            And what? Spray poppy in Afghanistan with a defoliant ....
            1. mamba
              mamba 16 November 2013 00: 19
              0
              Quote: Aljavad
              Spray poppy in Afghanistan with a defoliant ....

              Defoliants are substances that cause the leaves of plants to fall. For opium poppy in Afghanistan, herbicides and fungi were already used in 2005, leading to the death of half the crop. The strains of the fungi fusarium oxysporum and pleospora papveracae are able to infect and kill not only coca, poppy and hemp, but also other plants. Genetically modified strains of this fungus have been bred in the United States. In addition to the States, the Institute of Genetics and Experimental Plant Biology of the Academy of Sciences of the Republic of Uzbekistan is engaged in research in this area.
      2. avg
        avg 15 November 2013 11: 59
        +3
        I agree, they are inflating, as if the Taliban fought with a drone, it obviously flew to a safe distance and then shot a rocket at the sleeping Taliban and a mustache.

        Uh, why say so. This Taliban is such a shaitan of Adnak, barely left the drone from him. sad
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 15 November 2013 12: 17
          +3
          Quote: avg
          This Taliban is such a shaitan of Adnak, barely left the drone from him.

          Yeah, from the karamultuk thousand-thousand thousand, the drone got into trouble and flew home.
          1. smile
            smile 15 November 2013 17: 58
            +3
            Vladimirets
            Knock Knock. Hey, the Taliban Shaitan came yesterday, a drone cursed, said if the Taliban Shaitan didn’t stop from karamultukh-tarah-tararah-drone at night and the Taliban-Shaytan beat sick, sick, straight through Hallyfire on a brazen red ... ass ! :)))
    2. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 15 November 2013 10: 49
      +2
      Despite the fact that the new Russian drone will be able to fly long distances, according to American experts, it is still much inferior in the conduct of air combat to the drones of other countries,

      Yes, it’s just probably a typo about air, but it’s still not clear what they saw there from the photo, what kind of battle there is. The usual PR of his. But the good news is already flying.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 15 November 2013 10: 54
        +3
        Eh her ... when did the Americans do it? This is the usual show-off propaganda. They are cool, and the rest are so ... satellite countries.
        1. Anper
          Anper 16 November 2013 17: 37
          0
          But in Ukraine, the news was presented in such a way that it was not a Russian drone, but an American one, which was shot down by the Iranians (?) And transferred to Russia (?). And American experts have determined from photographs (which have already been removed) that it is their drone. belay
    3. ed65b
      ed65b 15 November 2013 15: 58
      +3
      Eh The Witcher. After watching the Harry Potter, the Taliban smoked a joint and mounted a broomstick and attacked a steel bird, but the magic could not be brought down. laughing
    4. iConst
      iConst 15 November 2013 16: 53
      +3
      Quote: Max_Bauder
      How shoud I understand this? What kind of aerial combat are we talking about?

      It's simple - the Taliban bounced and threw stones at the drone, which is great got the operator ... laughing
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  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 November 2013 10: 34
    +5
    Kulibins did not translate in Russia .. And development is underway. Our chip is cheap and cheerful!
  7. alex56
    alex56 15 November 2013 10: 34
    +7
    I wonder how we can say that our drone is inferior to American competitors, if it is not ready yet.
    Here we complete the development. We make the right amount. We will test in combat conditions (it is possible on a probable enemy;)).
    And then we will be measured!
  8. major071
    major071 15 November 2013 10: 38
    15
    Well, according to amers, we generally lag behind them in everything. And the Kalash is inferior to the M-16 in all respects, and our missiles do not fly, tanks do not travel, there are no normal planes, so what questions can there be about the UAV? Of course amers are getting better. fool I’m going to put on the skin of the murdered mammoth yesterday, take my faithful club and take a picture to maintain the image for the United States. laughing
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 15 November 2013 10: 42
      12
      I’m going to put on the skin of the murdered mammoth yesterday, take my faithful club and take a picture to maintain the image for the United States.

      Just do not forget to feed the bear and refuel the nuclear reactor. After that you can get vodka. drinks
      1. major071
        major071 15 November 2013 10: 51
        16
        The spouse is responsible for the reactor, she cooks porridge on it. A bear yesterday decided to go into hibernation, so that the country's defenses were reduced. laughing drinks
      2. Misantrop
        Misantrop 15 November 2013 11: 05
        +6
        Quote: Wedmak
        After that you can get some vodka.
        From a samovar laughing By the way, I learned how to use a samovar for a hot area. Instead of water, vodka is poured, and the entire furnace, along with the pipe, is filled with ice. Then you can drink cold vodka even in the summer on the beach laughing
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 15 November 2013 11: 08
          +3
          By the way, I learned how to use a samovar for a hot area.

          Um ... I didn’t even think that it was possible. Thanks for the idea. It is necessary to buy a new samovar by the summer - to cool beer. good
  9. RUSBAT
    RUSBAT 15 November 2013 10: 40
    +4
    Once again, we were surprised, from the pictures they judge the combat effectiveness of the "product" :)
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 15 November 2013 11: 34
      +1
      Well, these guys still don’t know how: from pictures of naked asses with a hidden camera in a female bathhouse in Muhos ---- the Americans found: age, name, home address and even the hobbies of their partners! (From the newspaper Taims Tudey-Suday)! Not be strict to grief with the experts, why don’t you think of a hangover, but there are already drones!
  10. Known who
    Known who 15 November 2013 10: 46
    +2
    Our military-industrial complex is slowly harnessing and driving fast; it’s high time to switch to warfare with robots and not humans.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 15 November 2013 10: 50
      +2
      It's time to fight at all in some kind of simulator)) But people are too bloodthirsty, and they won’t do that)))
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 15 November 2013 10: 57
        +3
        It's time to fight in general in some kind of simulator))

        It seems to me that you have little idea of ​​what kind of wars are going on in these same simulators. About the grand collisions of alliances in EVE only the lazy did not hear. The rest is about the same ...
        Only here are the results of these clashes there.
        1. major071
          major071 15 November 2013 11: 04
          +8
          The simulator is a simulator, but still the main soldier remains the main one in any war. Equipment may fail, break down, etc., and a person will continue to conduct his battle. Russia has always been proud of its army, its soldiers, because we did not fight for money, we defended our land. soldier
          1. Basileus
            Basileus 15 November 2013 11: 49
            0
            I'm talking about ways to resolve conflicts peacefully. Utopia, yes)
        2. Basileus
          Basileus 15 November 2013 11: 48
          0
          I imagine this very well. But what does it have to do with it? No matter how - the fact itself is important. But people are not capable of this.
  11. svp67
    svp67 15 November 2013 10: 58
    +5
    he, according to American experts, is still much inferior in the conduct of air combat to drones of other countries, for example, the United States,

    I remember they also initially evaluated the MiG29 and the Su27, and then they had a "shock" .... I really want history to repeat itself ...
  12. azanov
    azanov 15 November 2013 11: 26
    +2
    how can I conclude from satellite photographs that it is already much inferior to the American counterpart ???
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 15 November 2013 11: 34
      +1
      American experts are the coolest in the world! They can write TTX from a photograph, and develop a counteraction system from a reduced model!
    2. sxn278619
      sxn278619 15 November 2013 11: 36
      +1
      Quote: azanov
      how can I conclude from satellite photographs that it is already much inferior to the American counterpart ???

      The satellite is X-ray, shines through, and then the computer calculates what and how. Speed, weight, weapons, range in tank volume, etc.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 15 November 2013 11: 39
        +1
        X-ray satellite ...

        Yes, yes ... at the same time makes a diagnosis and prescribes treatment.
        1. iSpoiler
          iSpoiler 15 November 2013 15: 25
          +1
          And I think just intelligence works well
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 15 November 2013 15: 58
            +1
            Intelligence then works well. The analytical department is also not in vain chewing its bread. And PR people are also cool guys. Wow, but the picture to draw such meaningful conclusions. Yields ... yep. When the CM found out, they could not even understand what it was.
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    4. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 15 November 2013 11: 37
      +1
      And Baba Vanga, how does he draw conclusions? The "experts" work in about the same way.
  13. bubla5
    bubla5 15 November 2013 11: 33
    +2
    What an air battle, just shot a rocket at the target and that's it
  14. DNX1970
    DNX1970 15 November 2013 11: 36
    +1
    can experience it in the Baltic states?
  15. MsRedMaster
    MsRedMaster 15 November 2013 11: 51
    +2
    Despite the fact that the new Russian drone will be able to fly long distances, it, according to American experts, is still much inferior in the conduct of air combat to the drones of other countries
    However, surpasses all Western counterparts in the use of hand-to-hand combat. The pictures show that the Russian drone is trained: sambo, karate and boxing !!! smile So, be afraid of the adversaries, in the plans of Russian engineers to teach the machine how to work with a sapper blade !!!
    And if without laughter the news is extremely pleasing.
  16. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 15 November 2013 12: 03
    +1
    I read the article and remembered something ... 2007 year. repeat
    1. Dmitriy1975
      Dmitriy1975 15 November 2013 13: 24
      0
      Stillborn, there he will do crackers to replace them, apparently there will be something enchanting
    2. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 15 November 2013 15: 05
      +2
      So at the end, this Amer UAV is shown in flight!
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  18. saag
    saag 15 November 2013 12: 16
    +1
    With a screw, how high can you climb?
    1. Dmitriy1975
      Dmitriy1975 15 November 2013 13: 26
      +1
      Yes, this one video stuck something left, but everyone accepted it for the truth.
  19. SEM
    SEM 15 November 2013 12: 25
    +1
    This is all good))) only there is a lot of hype. It is necessary to make enemies better and cheaper, and at the same time develop further and further, then there will be a result and touched the future, but for now all this is Chatter !!!
    1. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 15 November 2013 15: 24
      +1
      Most likely, a copy of the American Sentinel RQ-170 drone will be made, which the Iranians planted with the help of our Avtobaza on their territory. Our designers have long been granted access to the American aircraft industry products shot down and seized in Iran http: // topwar. ru / 24132-iran-peredal-rossii-dannye-s-zahvachennogo-bespilotnika-s
      sha-v-obmen-na-svedeniya-po-s-300.html
  20. ParapaPanda
    ParapaPanda 15 November 2013 12: 30
    +2
    It is gratifying to hear!
  21. iConst
    iConst 15 November 2013 12: 53
    +1
    American experts suggested that it would be a strike UAV flying at medium or high altitude. These conclusions were made based on the wingspan and the V-tail. Experts also noted that the device is similar to the American MQ-Reaper UAV.

    Despite the fact that the new Russian drone will be able to fly long distances, it is, according to American experts, still strong inferior to air combat drones of other countries, for example, the United States, which have already established themselves in military operations. For example, recently an American drone eliminated the leader of the Pakistani Taliban.

    Amerikosy is driving something - is it shock or for air combat? Two big differences. It looks like a creeper.
  22. iConst
    iConst 15 November 2013 13: 03
    +1
    According to the engineers of the Tver All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Synthetic Fiber (VNIISV), which is part of the RT-Chemcomposite holding, a unique technology has been developed for producing high-strength reinforcing threads from ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE). According to scientists, new threads in the composition of composite materials will reduce the weight of the airframe of unmanned aerial vehicles by 2-2,5 times.

    Oh, now the hotels in Tver will not be empty - all the spies of the world will run there ... laughing
  23. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 15 November 2013 13: 51
    +4
    We lagged behind in the UAV and his mother is the day when, many years ago, such a wow drone of 50 tons flew around the ball a couple of times and returned from space with a deviation of a couple of meters. Remind someone repeated?
    1. iConst
      iConst 15 November 2013 14: 00
      0
      Quote: kapitan281271
      We lagged behind in the UAV and his mother is the day when, many years ago, such a wow drone of 50 tons flew around the ball a couple of times and returned from space with a deviation of a couple of meters. Remind someone repeated?

      This is all true, but you need to be proud of the present, not the past - this is true greatness.

      The Holy Roman Empire was once inferior to Russia in its territory. And where are the descendants now?

      Here it is necessary, before it is too late, not to repeat this fate.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 15 November 2013 17: 10
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        And where are the descendants now?

        As where? They live in Romania, which in Latin is read as Romania.
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 16 November 2013 02: 45
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        Descendants in the European Union. Are you about the Roman Empire or the Holy Roman Empire of the German people? So the second and the largest current in Europe stood out and did not live long ...
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    3. Aljavad
      Aljavad 16 November 2013 02: 42
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      x-47 seems called. He flew, sat, flew again. And why - they do not say - secret.
  24. silver_roman
    silver_roman 15 November 2013 14: 00
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    US that has already proven itself in military operations

    Yeah, they have proven themselves in the bombing of Pakistani PEACEFUL populated points. In this they are a great master!
    But seriously, you need to move in this direction and be sure to become a leader, because pilots - the heart of the air force and the life of each pilot is more than a dozen cars!
  25. Gronsky
    Gronsky 15 November 2013 14: 49
    +3
    The fact that according to one appearance of the product can clarify something is true and there is nothing surprising in this. For example, aviation aerodynamics specialists on the design features of the wing, stabilizer, fuselage, can draw some conclusions about the speed and maneuverability of the machine and approximately its specialization. Specialists, unlike ordinary mortals, see much more. But here is their statement about the unambiguous loss of the Russian UAV, I think it was done with ardor or with intent. The keyword that they forgot to use is POSSIBLE (as an option PROBABLY). Well, be that as it may, let them be sure that he is bad. We’d better not stick their nose in an attempt to find out more.
    Let them rest on their laurels in the awareness of their "greatness". Let it go. And we will work. am bully tongue
  26. Ihrek
    Ihrek 15 November 2013 14: 52
    +1
    And what did they think, we will only sit and watch what they create there and there is nothing to be done.
  27. stalker
    stalker 15 November 2013 15: 16
    +1
    I am glad that not all "brains" are flowing to the west, some of them remain at home, and the younger generation is growing up, but the fact that in some way somewhere we are lagging behind until we catch up with all this.
  28. Stinger
    Stinger 15 November 2013 15: 18
    +1
    to their great amazement, it has long been developed. "Buran" is called.
  29. vuvarovskiy
    vuvarovskiy 15 November 2013 15: 21
    +1
    Finally, we turned our attention to drones, how many breakthrough stocks were in the past, we put everything under the cloth and sold some to the left, who will give more!
  30. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 15 November 2013 15: 30
    +1
    You need to be proud of both the past and the present and be sure that the children will be proud of us, this is me about the future. When I wrote about "Buran" I just wanted to say that it was inappropriate to sing, that they were always behind there was a time they could not catch up with us. And about the fact that it is impossible to arrive calmly on your laurels, you are right. And although there is still a weak hope, there is still a hope that we will need and transfer to America.
  31. ed65b
    ed65b 15 November 2013 15: 53
    +1
    nevertheless, it is much inferior in the conduct of air combat to drones of other countries, for example, the USA, which have already established themselves in military operations. For example, recently an American drone eliminated the leader of the Pakistani Taliban.

    I don’t understand how the Taliban ended up in the air? laughing
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 15 November 2013 16: 14
      +1
      Ganjubas (or how to spell it right?) Is good caught, vigorous ...
  32. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 15 November 2013 21: 42
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    The Americans bombed half of Afghanistan and half of Pakistan with their UAVs, destroying a huge number of children, women and the elderly. We learned that Russia is building drones "strongly" scared: Horrible!!! Gentlemen, Yankees, you are unscrupulous cowards and hooligans.
  33. voliador
    voliador 15 November 2013 23: 47
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    Despite the fact that the new Russian drone will be able to fly long distances, it, according to American experts, is still much inferior in the conduct of air combat to the drones of other countries

    Does the author even know what air combat is? Or wrote, and to hell with it.
  34. Indifferent
    Indifferent 16 November 2013 02: 14
    +1
    For some reason, everyone forgot that our "drone" Buran flew in from space and sat down himself! And that was many, many years ago. Are all these technologies lost? I’m sure not.
    And the movie, which is by reference, is not a drone, but a group of Abramovichs pumping out loot from our Moscow Region. Money will be received and wound up. And then, a miracle that could not even take off, will not take off.
    Children in an airplane modeling circle do this and it immediately rises into the air. It can fly badly, but it rises. Now to make a glider with an engine so that it rises into the sky, a lot of intelligence is not needed. It's like inventing a bike. I can do it and did it as a pioneer! And since it didn’t rise from them, it shouldn’t!
  35. cormorant
    cormorant 16 November 2013 02: 53
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    No panic! The fall video was shot a year ago. I am sure that now this drone is already a formidable machine. Moscow was not built in a day.
  36. AlekseiM
    AlekseiM 16 November 2013 21: 04
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    Despite the fact that the new Russian drone will be able to fly long distances, he, according to American experts, is still much inferior in conducting an air battle to drones of other countries, for example, the United States, which have already proven themselves in combat operations. For example, recently an American drone eliminated the leader of the Pakistani Taliban.

    no one has ever seen a Russian droning in the eye, but he is already much inferior, quietly crying. maybe someone knows, and with what drones of other countries did the Americans take part in air battles?))