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A.Shary. I want to sign an association with the EU!

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Ukraine flew past the signing of the association, like asteroid DA-14 past the planet Earth in February 2013.


It seems to be close, but, fortunately, twenty seven thousand kilometers. Not crashed. Past And many are happy, many of those who were against signing, jump almost to the ceiling, do not hide their happiness.

And I want this signing. I understand that failure to sign it is a disaster.

I want this signing, I demand it, do not deprive me of signing, savvy!

I know perfectly well that the Ukrainian people love. He loves what did not happen. He will cherish the legend of gold Polubotka, he will pass to the descendants, frozen in cheap Chinese cradles, the legend: "... and then every citizen of Ukraine would receive a hundred thousand dollars ... just like that, son ...".

My grandmother was very educated and intelligent. But she loved to repeat: “Eh, Lenin would have lived for ten years more, would have bathed in gold ...” He did not live. Did not work out. Bathed in other substances.

The association has become a legend, it is the theme of all talk shows and speeches, it’s a golden dream, a dream of Communism, when you don’t have to work, but you can only RECEIVE.

And now dreams deprive. What for?! Give this people an association! Let him try it out, let him eat it, let him eat it, finally.

Let Ukraine join such “associated” countries as South Africa, Albania and Tunisia, Lebanon and Macedonia, Algeria and Bosnia, Mexico and Palestine.

Someone said that the association is an empty sound, that it gives absolutely nothing but an ephemeral opportunity to join the EU no earlier than in years of 10-15? Lying! Now it will forever remain a lie. And no way you can not refute this lie.

For example, in order to understand what the EU is, it is necessary to join it as a “youngest”. You were hung up with noodles saying that “you could live better with the rich than with the poor.” And you will come in shabby pants and patched shoes in the cigar club, where millionaires gather. Cozy?

Treat you as an equal attitude? Give this people an association, because, not having tasted it, he will remember it for another hundred years.

After all, textbooks on stories write, scientific papers, dissertations on the topic "What would have happened, sign the Ukraine Association".

There is a category of citizens, from those who have beer in the skull box, and so they think that it was better to lose in the Second World War. And today, instead of pouring out babblets into plastic cups under the fungus in kindergartens, everyone would have rolled the Mercedes-Benz sausage on the Mercedes.

Convince them unrealistic. They would have to LIVE in the occupation to understand their wrong. No one will dissuade the Ukrainian people that the association is an empty phrase. More than half of these people believe seriously that “association with the EU” and “accession to the EU” are one and the same.
They themselves did not decide that, they were told about it by politicians. And the people believe. They would wait for pensions of a thousand euros and salaries of three thousand euros after signing the association. They would understand that everything was a hoax, when their plants would close and they would lose even their five thousand hryvnias.

But do not lose now. And they will dream that did not come true. And they will blame (they will find someone!) And curse. Historical chance prograno and smarnovo! Ilyenko at Schuster will convulse in convulsions, shake his quad chin, his severe eyes narrow. Pros ... zmarnuvali !!!!

If all the time before the summit they talked about the summit, then a couple of years after the summit they would talk ... about him, they guessed. That did not grow together. After all, there were a number of hand at all.

And new Ukrainians will tell children in cardboard cradles that the country could become hoo, and all its inhabitants would have money oh-oh-oh, and in general - everything would be oh, if not ... If it were still a bit . But now everything. The chance is lost. Sleep, son, may the EU dream of you.

Just before her landing, Yulia Vladimirovna dreamed about her (landing). This is not fiction, not an allegory, she really wanted to sit down. Naturally, not for long. She understood that after his release she would become president.

Well, Yulia went all wrong, but I need to - in principle, she MUST be let go. Do not care about the law, and release. Let him go for a walk.

What happened to Lutsenko after the release granted by DAD? He showed off for a couple of weeks, and then ... then he became uninteresting to no one.

Everyone knows that he is on a dance performance at the candy king, no one is serious about the former minister, everything is violet on the ex- “political prisoner”. Flew opposition raid and prison charm. Before us is an ordinary guy, working all his life, forgive me for being direct, mouth.

What would happen to Tymoshenko? Well, she would have bathed in glory, distributed a hundred thousand interviews, got drunk, sniffed, slept off ... And then what? By returning her freedom (illegally!), The power would take away from her 50% support, which is still not killed by her faithful associates.
Without signing the association, the Ukrainian government does not release Tymoshenko from the conclusion. Yes, that's right, not vice versa. Because the unsigned association is Lutsenko behind bars. Interesting, significant, that Lutsenko, whose blogs on the "Ukrainian Truth" read thousands of people.

A signed association is an accomplished fact that deprives sellers of the dream of a product in stock. This is Lutsenko, absurdly running around with EU flags on subway cars. This is unemployment, stopping production that could not stand the competition, and ... the onset of a bright future, which turned out to be not so bright.

Until the child gets the discharge current from the outlet, you explain to him at least a million times that it hurts - you will not understand. Give the people an association, do not deprive the child of the discharge current, do not give the credulous people a dream about what could be if ...

I want to sign an association! Sign, fools!
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  1. saag
    saag 15 November 2013 07: 23
    45
    And it’s true, until they step on this rake so that sparks light up the street, then they will only understand what this halva is
    1. Canep
      Canep 15 November 2013 07: 40
      +3
      The author is sick. He wants 45 million to slip into poverty and start cutting each other's throats in a civil war, so that their dream will come true now.
      Quote: saag
      And the truth is, until they step on this rake

      They have already stepped on a rake a drop in mechanical engineering of 20% and chemistry by 30% in only 10 months of this year and the pre-default state of the economy. The government has SHOCK statements, then we refuse gas, then we refuse the EU, tomorrow they can declare that we accept Islam and I will not be surprised anymore.

      They decided to compete with Putin .... laughing angry laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 07: 50
        64
        Quote: Canep
        The author is sick.

        Apparently, you read only the title. If you read the article, you will understand that the author is right. Ukraine, like Pinocchio wants to get gold without doing anything. Russia-ALWAYS! Now a new gas warrior is beginning, gas is being taken from storage, what's next? -And then all Ukrainian media will accuse Gazprom and Russia as a whole of not receiving gas. All of this has been and continues for 22 years. We have less headaches with the Baltic countries than the eternally offended independent Ukraine, which is not I understood plainly for all the time what to do with this plausibility. Forward to EUROPE good
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 15 November 2013 08: 03
          12
          That's it!
          I also want them to get something in the association that they deserve their behavior.
          1. seller trucks
            seller trucks 15 November 2013 10: 10
            30
            at the end of summer on one of the branches I wrote that I was sure of two things: that there will be a war in Syria and Ukraine will sign an association with the EU recourse complaining about the "bad" autumn, I was 100% wrong recourse gentlemen, I am ready to suffer severe punishment from the hands (buttons) of comrades. But most of all I regret that I underestimated the GDP and let them call me a hurray-patriot, but here he did the right thing with Ukraine, many screamed that Russia did not support the "Russian movement" in Ukraine, did not finance advertising of the vehicle in Ukrainian The media, and it just came out without money, that's okay. On November 24, the svidomye decided to arrange another Maidan, well, I'll stock up on patience and chips. The show "Ruina" continues ....
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 10: 18
              14
              Quote: seller trucks
              complaining about the "bad" autumn, I was 100% wrong

              Yes, here I was also mistaken in the forecasts, it happens request
              Quote: seller trucks
              . On November 24, Svidomo decided to arrange another Maidan,

              It is necessary to tell Kars to pound, otherwise he will be sitting here on a site, instead of supporting the EU.
              Akim, Kars go to the rally?
              1. Kars
                Kars 15 November 2013 10: 25
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                , Kars go to the rally?

                I am not. Laziness.

                And in principle, you can sit on the site from the Maidan)) if that.
                Let's see what Yanukovych is negotiating with from Moscow and Brussels. We would have to send both of them further and agree with China (by the way, milk powder was redirected there to 2008 in Russia) and the Saudis.
                1. Orik
                  Orik 15 November 2013 11: 04
                  23
                  I'm not. Laziness. ... Let's see what Yanukovych is negotiating with from Moscow and Brussels. To send both of them further and agree with China (by the way, milk powder was redirected there that went to Russia before 2008) and the Saudis.

                  Well, oooooochen in Ukrainian about what the author writes. We tried to sit on two chairs, few, come on four. fellow
                  1. Gato
                    Gato 15 November 2013 11: 59
                    0
                    Quote: Orik
                    two chairs sit

                    hi
                    Right word, these chairs were given to you. Yes, at least 12.
                2. revnagan
                  revnagan 15 November 2013 12: 55
                  11
                  Quote: Kars
                  and agreement with China

                  Well, according to rumors, there are already such attempts. But, I am afraid that as a result of the agreements between our "leaders" and the Chinese comrades, you and I will simply lose the most fertile lands of our country. But this is the sale (lease) of not their (leaders') lands, and not even ours. This is the land of our ancestors and our children, into which, like a tick, a foreign investor cries out. There is no need to go far for an example - the Dutch and Danes in our area sow only rapeseed and sunflower. the chosen ones. "And with the Chinese people there will be exactly the same situation, only the scale is much larger.
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 15 November 2013 13: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: revnagan
                    But I am afraid that as a result of the agreements between our "leaders" and our Chinese comrades, you and I will simply lose the most fertile lands of our country.

                    And do not be afraid. And personally your fertile lands have vryatli who are interested.
                    Quote: revnagan
                    .After all, this is the sale (leasing) of not their (leaders) land, and not even ours

                    And what do you propose to do with it? To salt? The earth should work.
                    Quote: revnagan
                    it is necessary-the Dutch and Danes in our area sow only rapeseed and sunflower
                    There is agricultural supervision for this. At the same time, our farmers do the same. And when renting for a long time, the tenant will be interested in maintaining the fertility of their lands.

                    Quote: revnagan
                    And with the Chinese, the situation will be exactly the same, only the scale is much larger.

                    Why do I buy rapeseed? And they do not really respect sunflower oil. Moreover, China is not only a possible tenant of land, but also a direct buyer of agricultural products.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 15: 45
                      +4
                      Quote: Kars
                      Do not be afraid

                      Well, everything is clear, Kars no longer wants to join the EU, he wants to China. But what about the proximity to financial centers wink
                      1. Orik
                        Orik 15 November 2013 16: 03
                        14
                        Kars, this is a striking example of central Ukraine. Empty, not aggressive (unlike zapadentsev) ambition against the unity of our people and stupid reproduction of official propaganda. The main thing is to blame against unity, in the absence of their own development as a country, and who needs to pay the costs of the ambition does not matter, the Chinese, Arabs, and gay men. So in Ukraine there are always two hetmans for two Cossacks.
                      2. Kars
                        Kars 15 November 2013 16: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: Orik
                        Kars, this is a striking example of central Ukraine

                        Well, whose sample are you?
                        Quote: Orik
                        Empty, not aggressive

                        Are you sure? So you know me well?
                        Quote: Orik
                        against the unity of our people

                        what kind of people?
                        Quote: Orik
                        stupid reproduction of official propaganda.

                        Or maybe you are stupid reproduction of the official propaganda?
                        Quote: Orik
                        The main thing is to blame against unity,

                        This is a matter of ten. He doesn’t want to get closer to your thief, we have enough of our own. Yes, and even in the arms race, he’s pulling in like the Russian Federation.


                        Quote: Orik
                        in the absence of their own development as a country,

                        We have been developing as much as we can, for 20 years we have heard that next year we will fall apart and go bankrupt. And despite the active destruction of the Russian Federation (especially in the last 5-6 years), it’s still afloat.
                        Quote: Orik
                        and who should pay the costs of the ambition doesn’t matter, it’s important the Chinese, Arabs, Geyropeytsy
                        Does it hurt you so much? You have Great Russia, it’s just weird with such oil and gas prices to show such miserable results of economic development. Well, it would be Ukraine. Otherwise, the Great Russian Federation, so pressed that even the CUs started to be created.

                        Quote: Orik
                        So in Ukraine there are always two hetmans for two Cossacks.

                        Three.
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        But what about the proximity to financial centers

                        Hong Kong and RMB are also good. Yes, and what kind of population needs to eat.
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 18: 42
                        +2
                        Quote: Kars
                        Hong Kong and RMB are also good

                        You're killing me laughing
                      4. Kars
                        Kars 15 November 2013 18: 50
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        You're killing me

                        I would not be upset.
                      5. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 18: 55
                        +3
                        Quote: Kars
                        I would not be upset.

                        Then crying, I can't laugh, remembering your sudden love for the yuan wassat
                      6. Kars
                        Kars 15 November 2013 19: 04
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Then crying, I can't laugh, remembering your sudden love for the yuan

                        And it won’t upset me. What else to expect from such a limited person like you.
                      7. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 19: 10
                        +4
                        Quote: Kars
                        . What else to expect from such a limited person like you.

                        Eh Caps, you go into rudeness, well, don’t be angry that you’re like that. You’ll think they throw everywhere, well, it happens laughing
                      8. Kars
                        Kars 15 November 2013 19: 29
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Eh Caps, go to rudeness,

                        Well, why, a simple statement of facts. Your limitation is clearly visible. Especially in the argument - especially about dummies.
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Think throwing everywhere, well, it happens cho

                        Not everywhere, but the fact that you are so sure shows what kind of customs exist in the taiga alliance. And if Lukashenko still presses your thieves, then you don’t have to wait from our currents.
                      9. regsSSSR
                        regsSSSR 15 November 2013 20: 42
                        +4
                        Kars
                        Lukashenko still presses your thieves, then it’s not enough to wait for our thieves.


                        Kars, by the way, how do you like the policies pursued by Lukashenko like Ali, either?
                        Well, let’s say if Lukashenko was the president of Russia, would you personally relate to Russia differently? and would you integrate with her?
                      10. Kars
                        Kars 15 November 2013 20: 49
                        +1
                        Quote: regressSSSR
                        Ali Lukashenko’s liking is also not there?

                        I see her from a very big side. Mostly any high-profile cases. The same type of Belarusian. Well, and rumors.
                        Quote: regressSSSR
                        Russia, would you personally relate to Russia in a different way?

                        I do not belong to Russia, I belong to its ruling elite.
                        Quote: regressSSSR
                        and would you integrate with her?

                        what do you mean by integration. This concept is too broad and is interpreted differently. I have written many times what I am for multi-vector. To make friends and MUTUALLY BENEFIT to cooperate with everyone.
                    2. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 06: 05
                      +2
                      Quote: Kars
                      Well, why, a simple statement of facts. Your limitation is perfectly visible.

                      But yours is inconspicuous, you are probably the only one in Ukraine who thought of joining China laughing
                    3. Kars
                      Kars 16 November 2013 10: 15
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      your atom is invisible, you are probably the only one in Ukraine who had the idea to join China

                      By the way, you just proved your narrow-mindedness and not your ability to read. Give a quote where I wrote about joining China. It's only you who you want to join. And I talked about MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL economic cooperation.
      2. Orik
        Orik 15 November 2013 20: 13
        +6
        Our people are one GREAT TRIED RUSSIAN PEOPLE !!! And you still do not understand, poor thing. crying
      3. Kars
        Kars 15 November 2013 20: 32
        +1
        Quote: Orik
        Mr. GREAT TRIEDINY RUSSIAN PEOPLE !!! And you still do not understand, poor thing

        Triune? I have to. I still haven’t heard anything like this.
      4. Orik
        Orik 15 November 2013 23: 36
        +6
        So they don’t say on your TV set, but don’t worry, we will teach you how to love your homeland. RUSSIA, UKRAINE, BELARUS this is HOLY RUSSIA! We are one people, with one faith, history and values, have been and will be, so understandably dear ?!
      5. Kars
        Kars 16 November 2013 10: 18
        +1
        Quote: Orik
        So on your TV do not say

        Do you think they’re zombie you?

        Quote: Orik
        we will teach you to love the motherland

        At first you would have learned yourself, but your Chechens. And I love mine without you.
        Quote: Orik
        BELARUS it is HOLY RUSSIA! M

        She’s also a saint, well, it’s necessary. There, the clergy also zombie.

        Quote: Orik
        were and will be, so understandably dear ?!
        LHTP has already worked too. But in fact, apart from a set of slogans embedded from outside, nothing special.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Is there hunger in China? Or are you talking about the population of Ukraine?
        Are you humorous, or is it so short-sighted?
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 06: 07
    -1
    Quote: Kars
    .Yes and what kind of population that needs to eat.

    Is there hunger in China? Or are you talking about the population of Ukraine?
  • I am a Russian
    I am a Russian 15 November 2013 20: 06
    +5
    Quote: Kars
    Quote: revnagan
    .After all, this is the sale (leasing) of not their (leaders) land, and not even ours

    And what do you propose to do with it? Salt?Earth must work.


    request Strange ... the Ukrainian knows what to do with the land, and abandoned agriculture.
    1. Kars
      Kars 15 November 2013 20: 31
      +2
      Quote: I am a Russian
      . Ukrainian knows what to do with the land, and abandoned agriculture.

      Well, why, it’s not necessary to personally plow the oxen in order to receive income from the land. And if you are producing all over Ukraine, we produce a lot of food, that a large amount simply disappears. It would be nice to sell it to China, Africa, etc. try to do.
    2. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 15 November 2013 21: 47
      -1
      Quote: Kars
      And if you are talking about all of Ukraine - then we produce a lot of food, that a large amount simply disappears


      Kars how many hectares of land are you renting to foreign countries?
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 06: 02
      0
      Quote: I am a Russian
      Kars how many hectares of land are you renting to foreign countries?

      3 million, while China.
    4. Kars
      Kars 16 November 2013 10: 20
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      3 million, while China.

      Can you prove it? Maybe what documents have already been signed?
      By the way, more than a dozen countries (or entrepreneurs from other countries) already work in the agricultural market of Ukraine

      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      A cucumber in China or a pamidor?

      Any demanded agricultural production. They take milk powder very well.
    5. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 16 November 2013 21: 35
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      3 million, while China.


      will rice be grown?
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 06: 03
    0
    Quote: Kars
    It would be nice to sell it to China,

    A cucumber in China or a pamidor?
  • revnagan
    revnagan 16 November 2013 13: 44
    +1
    [quote = Kars] And you do not be afraid. And personally your fertile lands have vryatli who are interested. [/ quote]
    I will never admit the fact that the land, our common, national value, can become someone’s personal. Any power that gives away part of the common property to anyone is an enemy for me, and I will fight with it (such power) by any affordable means, gnawing and grinding inside her foundations.
    [quote = Kars] And what do you propose to do with it? Salt? The earth should work. [/ quote]
    It should, for the benefit of the WHOLE PEOPLE, and not in the deputy’s pocket.
    [quote = Kars] There is agricultural supervision for this. At the same time, our farmers do everything exactly the same. And when renting for a long term, the tenant will be interested in preserving the fertility of their lands. [/ quote
    To solve the problem with agricultural supervision, there is a telephone right and selling power. And the tenant knows that he is using someone else's land, not his own, and sooner or later he will be "asked". Therefore, he will squeeze out everything that is possible from the land, and by the end of the lease term for the place of the fertile site will remain a caveman.
    [quote = Kars] Why do I use rapeseed? And they do not really respect sunflower oil. At the same time, China is not only a possible tenant of land, but also a direct buyer of agricultural products. [/ Quote]
    I didn’t say that they will grow these crops. And the fact that China needs food is also true. But the fact that they will squeeze out all the juices from our land, stupidly exploiting the soil (or do you think that they will bring fertilizers from China? ), growing food for themselves, I have no doubt. And if they really need food, then why shouldn't our villagers grow it and sell it to the same Chinese? But it turns out that we are not profitable to do agriculture on the spot, and for the Chinese, to distant lands, it’s profitable. The question is, why so? Yes, because they hope only to take, take and take, without investing anything.
  • zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 15 November 2013 15: 53
    -9
    Quote: revnagan
    You are banally deprived of the most fertile lands of our country.

    why would it suddenly? The land is already leased.
    A long-term tenant who is interested in fertility and conservation of land resources is much more profitable. Well, this is understandable, not even interested in CX.

    Quote: revnagan
    sow only rapeseed and sunflower

    sow that brings great profit. Although now there is already a tendency towards other cultures. But is it not Ukraine's fault that sunflower is one of our best crops?
    Pineapples do not grow with us (
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 15 November 2013 16: 53
      10
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      A long-term tenant who is interested in fertility and conservation of land resources is much more profitable.


      Did he tell you that he was interested in fertility?
      Open the textbook on agriculture, and you will understand that in your case, the Chinese are only interested in climate and land as a substrate. They themselves will arrange fertility such that then the thistle will not grow without fertilizers and disinfection.

      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      But is it not Ukraine's fault that sunflower is one of our best crops?


      It is Ukraine's fault that the land turnover does not work. After sunflowers, the earth should stand under fallows for 7 years or under legumes. And your farmers "after us - even a flood."
      1. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 16 November 2013 18: 41
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        Open the textbook on agriculture, and you will understand that in your case, the Chinese are only interested in climate and land as a substrate

        in the textbook on cx it says what interests the Chinese? bgggg
        Quote: Botanologist
        Ukraine is guilty that the land turnover is not working. After sunflowers, the earth for 7 years, you need to stand under pairs or under legumes

        one feels "botanist" really ... where is it written about SEVEN years? again bggg
        Quote: Botanologist
        And your agrarians "after us - even a flood."

        and it’s not the agrarians who are to blame, but a system in which a person does not know what will happen tomorrow. Hence all the problems. And if a person is sure that no one will drive him away, then the result will be different.

        In my region, besides sunflower and wheat, they also grow buckwheat, beets, potatoes, cabbage, a greenhouse system has been established, part of the land has been allocated for greenery, as well as for hayfields - alfalfa, sainfoin (this is for beans, you know, right?)
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 15: 38
    15
    Quote: Kars
    Let's see what Yanukovych will negotiate with Moscow and Brussels.

    You apparently didn’t notice, but the freebie ended laughingOr you think suckers are sitting in China, I’m disappointing, it’s not so, or you want to join China already. Anywhere, just to feed wassat
    1. Kars
      Kars 15 November 2013 15: 39
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      You apparently didn’t notice, but the freebie ended

      And when was she? But yours will end too if that.
      1. Kars
        Kars 15 November 2013 15: 44
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You apparently didn’t notice, but the freebie ended

        And when was she? But yours will end too if that.


        Or do you think suckers are sitting in China,
        how it is characteristic to divide into suckers and not, about honest (at whom I am with this to Romanov) mutually beneficial cooperation they do not even consider. Well, you joined Kazakhstan and Belarus - that means you are pulling yourself. And here you are Ukraine.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 06: 01
          0
          Quote: Kars
          Well, you joined Kazakhstan and Belarus - it means you are pulling yourself.

          Yes, we constantly take loans from Belarus and Kazakhstan laughing
        2. Kars
          Kars 16 November 2013 10: 23
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Yes, we constantly take loans from Belarus and Kazakhstan

          Do you know the economy so badly? And a sales market that only because of dumping and administrative resources buys your low-grade goods? Why are you so afraid of the EU?
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Maybe Europe refuses to buy our oil and gas?

          It may not refuse, but the prices will be knocked down. China has already beaten well.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 05: 59
      +1
      Quote: Kars
      But yours will end too if that.

      What are you talking about? Maybe Europe refuses to buy our oil and gas? Dreams to refuse, but cannot laughing
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 15 November 2013 16: 38
    +9
    Quote: Kars
    and deals with China ... and the Saudis.


    Will you introduce Sharia or the Red Book of Mao?
    1. Kars
      Kars 15 November 2013 16: 47
      +1
      Quote: Botanologist
      Will you introduce Sharia or the Red Book of Mao?

      Is it a prerequisite for economic cooperation?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 18: 44
        +3
        Quote: Kars
        Is it a prerequisite for economic cooperation?

        Be sure to learn a language wink
        1. Kars
          Kars 15 November 2013 18: 51
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Be sure to learn the language

          Can I link? But by the way, what when joining the taiga union?
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 18: 57
          +7
          Quote: Kars
          But by the way, what when joining the taiga union?

          I don’t know, I didn’t hear about the taiga union.
          Quote: Kars
          link please?

          Please immediately alphabet, academic success wink
        3. Kars
          Kars 15 November 2013 19: 00
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I don’t know, I didn’t hear about the taiga union.

          did not hear? strange.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Please immediately alphabet, academic success

          a link to what to teach as a prerequisite for increasing turnover.
        4. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 19: 06
          +3
          Quote: Kars
          a link to what to teach as a prerequisite for increasing turnover.

          What other goods turnover are you planning to supply in China? Clothes or irons with teapots wassat
          Sorry, but again the one-goal game does not grow together with you and look for other options with the yuanlaughing
        5. Kars
          Kars 15 November 2013 19: 14
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          What other goods turnover are you planning to supply in China?

          Does China really buy nothing but Russian energy?
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Clothes or irons with teapots

          your limitation is visible. By the way, what barriers does the Chinese goods put in it? At least close to the ones in front of the Ukrainian ones? Are there trucks on the Russian-Chinese border?
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I'm sorry, but again the one-goal game,

          Will not forgive.
        6. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 19: 26
          +5
          Quote: Kars
          Does China really buy nothing but Russian energy?

          Forest, fish, metal, weapons, coal. Everything is near by China and there is no point in driving coal or metal from Ukraine. You do not have forests and fish, therefore, forgive winked
          Quote: Kars
          your limitation is visible

          Hamish praaative
          Quote: Kars
          .By the Russian Federation what barriers does Chinese goods put then?

          And why, China is not going to the EU.
          Quote: Kars
          Will not forgive.

          Ahhh I'm sad laughing
        7. gigiperfetto
          gigiperfetto 15 November 2013 21: 33
          +5
          Kars, you are not the second cousin’s grand-nephew of the unforgettable comrade Panikovsky or, at worst, Lieutenant Schmidt. Could organize the export of weights to China.
          No kidding: 1) Russia has always recognized that without Ukraine it cannot take place as a world power
          2) The USA also comes from the UK (like Canada and Australia), but they all do not drag their "cart" as
          in the fable of Krylov
        8. Kars
          Kars 15 November 2013 21: 50
          +1
          Quote: gigiperfetto
          Forest, fish, metal, weapons, coal

          And is that all that was enough for you? Sell raw materials, but buy irons and rags))
          Quote: gigiperfetto
          You do not have forests and fish, therefore, forgive

          do you need my forgiveness? this is interesting.
          Quote: gigiperfetto
          Hamish praaative

          You repeat, at least where you saw rudeness. And along the LHTP they got to you.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Why, China is not going to EU

          But China itself is not enough Chinese? But at least yes, who will sell the irons and rags to you. By the way, from the Russian Federation there is a lot of Chinese trash to Ukraine, measures should be taken to protect the Ukrainian market.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Ahhh I'm sad
          I don `t care.

          Quote: gigiperfetto
          Russia has always recognized that without Ukraine it cannot take place as a world power
          And what do I care? And if it’s true, then the Russian Federation must pay for it.

          Quote: gigiperfetto
          Sha also come from the UK

          The United States has grabbed the UK.
          Quote: gigiperfetto
          but they all do not drag their "cart" as
          in the fable of Krylov

          Well, it’s more to the Russian Federation. I didn’t seem to hear that the United Kingdom would like to return its colonies.
        9. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 05: 57
          +1
          Quote: Kars
          By the way, from the Russian Federation there is a lot of Chinese trash to Ukraine, measures should be taken to protect the Ukrainian market

          Yeah in transit, your hucksters are dragging through the territory of the Russian Federation. And you decided when entering China to introduce restrictions on goods from China laughing And about the market, you have already been introduced that people are clutching their heads.
          Quote: Kars
          And if this is true, then the Russian Federation must pay for it.

          Russia owes nothing to anyone !!! Pay damn, but did not try to earn wink
          Quote: Kars
          .I didn’t seem to hear that Britain would want to return its colonies.

          You call me limited, and you call Ukraine a colony yourself, well then proceed from this
        10. Kars
          Kars 16 November 2013 10: 27
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Yeah in transit, your hucksters are dragging through the territory of the Russian Federation

          if only our hucksters and in transit.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And you decided to enter China to introduce restrictions on goods from China

          For re-export from the territory of the Russian Federation.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And about the market, you have already been introduced that people are clutching their heads.

          Where did you get it? So far, the problems are only from the demarche of the Russian Federation, but maybe the WTO courts will help. But now, all business people know little what to count on the Russian market and make plans for it is stupid.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Russia owes nothing to anyone !!! Pay damn, but did not try to earn

          Well then, let it not be an empire, to me that.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          You call me limited, and you call Ukraine a colony yourself, well then proceed from this

          Former colony. And from this I proceed.
  • Eugeniy_369
    Eugeniy_369 15 November 2013 18: 59
    +1
    Quote: Kars
    But by the way, what when joining the taiga union?

    Oh bastard .... laughing
  • Eugeniy_369
    Eugeniy_369 15 November 2013 18: 49
    +6
    Quote: Kars
    Let's see what Yanukovych is negotiating with from Moscow and Brussels. We would have to send both of them further and agree with China (by the way, milk powder was redirected there to 2008 in Russia) and the Saudis.

    Kars can be minus as much as you like, but he is right, everyone is looking for his own benefit, it always has been and will be. Ukrainians are fraternal people, but I think the Russian authorities should stop talking with neighbors in an orderly tone. I believe that we should be partners, to the brink of an older and younger brother drinks rather than teacher and student.
    PS Otto von Bismarck:
    "The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear away, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia, play off the two parts of a single people and watch how the brother will kill" brother ... No need to confirm the forecasts of this nemchury (although it must be recognized not stupid what )
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 18: 59
      +5
      Quote: Eugeniy_369
      but he’s right, everyone is looking for his own benefit,

      He will be right only in one case, if it turns out that he is the son of Yanukovych.
      1. Kars
        Kars 15 November 2013 19: 09
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        that he is the son of Yanukovych.

        I heard that Putin has only daughters, what are you in-law?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 19: 12
          +1
          Quote: Kars
          I heard that Putin has only daughters, what are you in-law?

          However, I don’t even know how you came to such thoughts. laughing Or do you want to meet Katya’s sister wink
        2. Kars
          Kars 15 November 2013 19: 31
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          However, I don’t even know how you came to such thoughts.

          the analogy with yours is -EEE (I wanted to tell my thoughts but this exaggeration will be) about the son of Yanukovych.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Or do you want to meet Katya’s sister

          Will you arrange? If the redhead I can think of.
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 06: 11
          +1
          Quote: Kars
          Will you arrange? If the redhead I can think of.

          There is one problem, her DAD belay Where you rush when he does not give God, read your komenty-on the moon? so he and you get it bully
        4. Kars
          Kars 16 November 2013 10: 28
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          There is one problem, her DAD

          Can’t you deal with him?
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          when he does not give God, read your komenty-

          Well, yes, the FSB will incite me. He didn’t interrupt his belolentochniks, but here I am))))
  • Eugeniy_369
    Eugeniy_369 15 November 2013 19: 15
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    He will be right only in one case, if it turns out that he is the son of Yanukovych.

    Well, in vain you are so ... I meant that you should always look for benefits for your country.
  • Docent1984
    Docent1984 18 November 2013 17: 32
    +1
    Unfortunately, some of this succeeds. Their brains were deeply rosinized for 20 years of independence (((I’m a Ukrainian by descent, but once upon a time the Soviet homeland sent to serve in Russia, they are rooted here. And now it’s upsetting for me to watch the enemy trample my historical homeland - from the most Galician who always was a traitor, served the Polish king, the Swedish king, the German Gauleiter ... who fought as part of the SS divisions, slaughtered whole villages of Little Russians in Galicia in 1914, which my ancestor then freed ... who were not finished off in 45. .. Apparently regretted and and just did not. And now this enemy impersonating Ukrainians ... It's disgusting to look at it ...
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 15 November 2013 19: 32
    +3
    Quote: Kars
    and agreement with China

    About what? Launch 100 million? That there was absolutely no work? Free cheese only in a mousetrap. And cheap gas
  • varov14
    varov14 15 November 2013 20: 44
    +3
    So you lease all of Ukraine to the Chinese, and yourself to Europe. Collect rent and belly gray, than not life.
  • yankeegohome
    yankeegohome 16 November 2013 02: 24
    +3
    And I didn't really believe in the association and now I don't. The principle “this is our cow and WE milk it” has not been canceled. And the condition to release a prodigy with a braid is generally unrealizable. Then Vitya needs to collect the sidor right away. Well, or as an option, take away her billions from Yulka. And, then, as in the movie, "And now the echidna, bite if you can")))
  • yankeegohome
    yankeegohome 15 November 2013 12: 02
    18
    Duc were already in the "association". Hitler in 41-45 satisfied "evropragnennya" - for some reason did not like it)))) At the collapse of the Union, too, promised, we will eat "bacon with bacon". Now you will soon see the cow only in the zoo. Although some argue that Ukraine has filled up the whole world with milk powder. Not otherwise, the Chinese have learned to bodyage from PVA glue and dry. Although Severodonetsk Production Association "Azot", in my opinion, is worth it. Where we take milk from is not clear.
  • corn
    corn 15 November 2013 22: 27
    +1
    I do not want Ukrainians to feel bad!
    He grew up in (in) Ukraine and lives there too many relatives, friends, just acquaintances.
    But, in principle, this is their business.
  • Tersky
    Tersky 15 November 2013 08: 39
    12
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Now a new gas warrior is beginning, they are taking gas from storage, what's next? -And then all Ukrainian media will accuse Gazprom and Russia as a whole of the fact that Europe does not receive gas.

    Ukraine's debt to Gazprom for gas today is more than $ 1,3 billion. November 13 this year. Ukrainian Energy Minister Eduard Stavitsky said that Naftogaz of Ukraine had already purchased in 2013. Gazprom has 18 billion cubic meters. m of gas, according to the annual plan, and more this year is not going to buy gas from the Russian monopoly. Oh how! laughing ! Hello Sasha!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 09: 23
      +2
      Quote: Tersky
      , and more this year is not going to buy gas from the Russian monopoly.

      Will be drowned by straw laughing
      Hi Vit hi
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 15 November 2013 10: 08
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Will be drowned by straw

        Angry, you are Romanov! People already have no straw!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 10: 20
          +6
          Quote: Egoza
          Angry, you are Romanov! People already have no straw!

          Here are those times, Elena Cho, am I evil? I’m offering Schaub options here, the people warmed up, Schaub did not freeze. How did I know that there wasn’t any straw winked
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 15 November 2013 12: 57
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I’m offering Schaub options here, the people warmed up, Schaub did not freeze. How did I know that there wasn’t any straw

            I have a good option - to get warm with a fresh steam. good In general, it would be funny if it were not so sad ...
      2. Kars
        Kars 15 November 2013 10: 26
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Will be drowned by straw
    2. Cherdak
      Cherdak 15 November 2013 11: 05
      +2
      Quote: Tersky
      this year is not going to buy gas from the Russian monopoly anymore



      Something reminds of a large autumn harvest of sucking mushrooms.
    3. yankeegohome
      yankeegohome 16 November 2013 00: 03
      +2
      Already, it seems, we are taking gas again, according to the zomboyaschik. "Now you are Vasya, then you are not Vasya!"
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 06: 14
        0
        Quote: yankeegohome
        Already it seems again we take gas, according to the zomboyaschik reported.

        Probably your politicians smoke herbs a lot, as they say one thing under kaif, let them start to think and say another laughing
  • Canep
    Canep 15 November 2013 08: 55
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Apparently you only read the headline
    Yes, I read the whole article. The author proposes to send Ukraine to the Stone Age only so that the grandfather would not tell his grandson, "Oh, if then the EU would have signed a paper on the Maybachs, and they would have opened the doors to us," I remember there were songs like: "If Hitler won , then we would drive Mercedes ".
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    We have fewer headaches with the Baltic countries than the permanently offended independent Ukraine,

    Yes, the PALTS EVERYONE (and they themselves there) do not give a damn now and there are no problems.
    And with the departure of Ukraine, we have a wonderful prospect in 5-10 years (depending on the speed of impoverishment of an independent) to have a NATO air force base 500 km from Moscow.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 09: 29
      +7
      Quote: Canep
      Yes, I read the whole article. The author suggests sending Ukraine to the Stone Age

      The author essentially offers nothing, he is not the author of the idea of ​​signing with the EU.
      Everyone just makes their own choices, but we don’t need this hemorrhoids at all. In both cases, Ukrainians have someone to blame their problems on - Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.
      Quote: Canep
      And with the departure of Ukraine, we have a wonderful prospect in 5-10 years (

      Where it will go, who needs it. There will be unrest in Ukraine and the next revolution, and possibly not one. What kind of NATO will there be, when there will be nothing to eat. Debts on patches are already growing now.
      1. Canep
        Canep 15 November 2013 09: 41
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The author essentially offers nothing, he is not the author of the idea of ​​signing with the EU.

        But he wants Ukraine to sign this paper. But in general he does not give a damn about the people of Ukraine to whom manna from heaven promised, and they were led. Alexander You yourself remember that they just did not promise us in the 90s and the people agreed. I don’t even want to remember that I had to live on 5000 tenge (1000 rubles) to feed my family, and still drag my old boots and epaulettes in the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan for these grandmothers.
        I think differently. Ukraine did not refuse to sign this paper, but decided to postpone it to next year. How long are they going to pull the cat for eggs? These movements do not create new jobs.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 10: 24
          10
          Quote: Canep

          But he wants Ukraine to sign this paper.

          Yes, I am also for and at the same time against. For the reason that the eternal nagging of Ukraine is frankly tired of it.
          But it’s against because we don’t shine from signing with the EU, and there will be new nagging.
          In this regard, the question is WHAT TO DO ??????????? The answer is yes, let them roll wherever they want, already fed up with their idiocy elevated to the rank of foreign policy.
        2. smile
          smile 15 November 2013 12: 39
          +7
          Canep
          Hello.
          Yes, the author does not want this. He just nods and maliciously hints at the mood that some unreasonable heads of supporters of the entoy association itself will visit in Ukraine
      2. AVV
        AVV 15 November 2013 10: 48
        +2
        There are a lot of clowns in the Verkhovna Rada and in the government! And people have already shown this circus for 20 years, and he’s tired of horror as ordinary people! But they don’t want to cancel the performance, but they need to eat people, he needs these guides for happiness and abundance , no one digests, because indigestion !!!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 15: 51
          +1
          Quote: AVV
          ! And people have already shown this circus for 20 years, and are tired

          Let's see how much he got tired of the 24th and whether he got tired at all.
    2. Ustas
      Ustas 15 November 2013 13: 28
      +2
      Quote: Canep
      Yes, I read the whole article. The author proposes to send Ukraine to the Stone Age only so that the grandfather does not tell his grandson, "Oh, if only then the EU signed a paper on Maybachs,

      Do you know about this kind of literature like satire? Is it really necessary to chew?
      Come on, try looking at the article from a different angle.
    3. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 15 November 2013 20: 07
      +3
      Quote: Canep
      have a NATO air force base 500 km from Moscow.

      So what? Does this somehow aggravate our problems? So, there are only bases around. From the Baltic States fly as much as from Ukraine. And why necessarily to Moscow? It's time to stop greasing the smaller brothers and live on your own mind. Well, Ukraine can’t have any useful fossils live well .... Here comes a good uncle and give a lot of money ..
  • I do not care
    I do not care 15 November 2013 10: 45
    +4
    the immortal words of Okudzhava:
    What a blue sky
    We are not supporters of robbery,
    No knife needed on greed
    You will show him a copper penny
    And do what you like with him
    While fools live in the world,
    It is a deceit to live with us
    What sky is blue
    We are not supporters of robbery,
    The fool doesn't need a knife
    You’re gonna get him three boxes
    And do what you like with him
    1. HAM
      HAM 15 November 2013 11: 46
      +1
      This is a Brussels hit! Favorite hit!
  • KCC
    KCC 15 November 2013 11: 46
    +4
    Quite right, Europeans are now expressing concern to Gazprom over gas supplies in the winter. The question is what can Gazprom do, the answer is to give free gas to Ukraine for the whole winter, that's how the freebie lasts
  • morpex
    morpex 15 November 2013 12: 25
    -9
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    .If you read the article, you will realize that the author is right.

    Right in what? Yes, initially there were no prospects for signing! I said this for a long time. Remember the classic? "The upper classes could not (although they wanted to) and the lower classes did not want" And the author is a sick sado-masochist. He puts, like you, a degenerate gang led by Anusovich, on a par with ordinary Ukrainians. What actually happened? In my opinion, in all this nix between Putin and Yanukovych, our hetman still managed to get a carrot from your king in the form of loans and lower gas prices. I am not inclined to blame Russia for my troubles, but the injured party in this showdown is the common people. We have accepted the onerous conditions of the IMF on housing and communal services on the guise of this, and there is still talk of raising the tax for medium-sized businesses, which will finally kill him. I, an ordinary Ukrainian, wonder if Putin really didn’t understand that all this fuss was started precisely with the aim of milking him? If you understood, then why all these customs wars? Onishchenko with his bans?
    Everything is clear from our moron. I am happy for mocking my own people. Maybe I don’t know anyone? I have one conclusion for myself. Unfortunately, not very good. After all these slops poured on my country, I look at Russia differently. ..
    1. alekseinew
      alekseinew 15 November 2013 13: 01
      +7
      why did Ukraine decide that we owe it something, at bargain prices, to buy their products, etc., in my opinion, since the country is not loyal to Russia, they should live on common grounds, normal pricing for energy, duties and all the rest, they saw offended the mouse .......
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 15: 55
      +5
      Quote: morpex
      , didn’t Putin understand that this whole fuss was started just to milk it?

      Putin clearly told you that on software ... what Ukraine will go to is her choice. And as for docs, Yanukovych has reached the point that he is already clutching his head. Who did he bother with or do you think that minus 25% of the turnover Is this a doica?
      1. morpex
        morpex 15 November 2013 19: 46
        -4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Putin clearly told you, on software ... on where Ukraine will go-

        Yes, not a damn thing ..! Ukraine in Europe is a geopolitical catastrophe for Russia (I’m writing with a small letter, as you write the name of my country). As if it was grandiose.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .And about the doiki, so Yanukovych has reached the point that he is already clutching his head

        He already and so kranty.Ego in Ukraine, the last mongrel in the gateway to say the least, has ceased to respect.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Whom did he bother there or do you think that minus 25% of the turnover is a doika?

        We’ll see in two or three months who raped someone. Then we’ll talk.
        1. yur
          yur 15 November 2013 21: 24
          +5
          No matter how negatively I relate to Putin's policy inside the country, I must note that no one has ever raped him in the foreign arena and this is unlikely to happen. Looks like the "winners" have not grown yet.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 November 2013 06: 21
          +2
          Quote: morpex
          We’ll see in two or three months who raped someone. Then we’ll talk.

          I do not understand, you still doubt who, whom and whom? Or is it a chip with non-payment of salaries in Russia, or does the government grab our head, what should we do? Maybe it is in Russia, Ukraine sticks out for gas, or Russia in search of loans runs around the world? What are you about???
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 15 November 2013 12: 26
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Russia is ALWAYS to blame

    I’ll tell you more, Alexander.
    Already the accusations are flying like a machine gun, but this is not done openly, but in a tricky way:
    Azarov says: "you know, thugs, as a result of the fact that the Russian Federation bends our trucks at customs, we suffer wild losses and as a result you will lose your jobs, BUT no one is to blame" - like draw your own conclusions. No one will say about the repeated warning from Russia about the consequences. This is not necessary in the media.
    By the way, according to the filth of the media, Russia peacefully smokes on the sidelines in comparison with Ukraine. The directors of many channels probably sing the US anthem in the morning, wrapping themselves in the EU flag.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 15: 57
      +3
      Quote: silver_roman
      Azarov says: "you know, thunders, as a result of the fact that the Russian Federation bends our trucks at customs, we suffer wild losses and as a result you will lose your jobs, BUT no one is to blame"

      Then the blow takes away from himself, if he speaks the truth, he and his boss will simply be overthrown hi
  • wow
    wow 15 November 2013 13: 38
    +8
    Respect to the author of the article! Here we have the following mentality: in order to understand what is on your plate, but not chocolate, a Ukrainian needs to taste it, and not "by sight." What can you do if God has not given mind ...!
    1. Kars
      Kars 15 November 2013 13: 42
      +1
      Quote: yo-mine
      Our mentality here is this: to understand what’s on your plate, but, not chocolate

      It is evident that you personally have had cases more than once?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 15: 58
        +5
        Quote: Kars

        It is evident that you personally have had cases more than once?

        Kars, don’t be angry, what do you really, think wandered with the EU, it’s okay, enter somewhere else if they revolt wink
        1. Kars
          Kars 15 November 2013 16: 05
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          think wandered with the EU

          Who bearded? The fact that no one let out Timashenko was clear from the very beginning.
          So let's see how the geyropeyts rvutsa feast on Ukraine, utrutsa or not.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          come in somewhere else if revolt

          Everything can be. The main thing is to get your profit.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Kars, don't be mad

          What have you had with the dishes too?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 18: 48
            +3
            Quote: Kars
            Everything can be. The main thing is to get your profit.

            You know, in your desire to eat fish (EU) and not to wash the pan (CU), Ukraine did not get anything, but lost billions. To get profit, you must either have oil or be a powerful independent state. Ukraine is not that, not another. Russia and both, that’s the whole difference. I won’t talk about the EU.
      2. wow
        wow 15 November 2013 21: 07
        +3
        I have no "honor" to belong to the "titular nation", so I think before I "bite off" something !!!
  • olviko
    olviko 15 November 2013 14: 35
    +5
    ". Let them enter, let them plunge."

    Before entering, Ukraine has already begun the process of destabilization of the EU. Destructive processes divided the EU into a new Europe and an old one. This already worries European politicians and makes us think about the expediency of Ukraine’s takeover. Old Europeans ”are not so keen on Ukraine’s adaptation if this causes the Kremlin’s anger. The “New Europeans” do not yet understand that Russia has enough funds to punish them, and NATO will not be able to help here. In fact, few people will be taken aback by the list of countries that vehemently support Ukraine’s admission to the EU in any case, even if Yanukovych Tymoshenko eats alive. This, of course, Vilnius and Warsaw, to a lesser extent the rest of the "Czech Republic and Romania." Ukraine, do not be a fool instead of saying that everything is very good and simple, vigorously waking up problems associated with the association. Perhaps this is done in order to show what sacrifices Ukraine is making for Europe, and in Brussels they must evaluate it. Ukrainian Prime Minister Azarov understands the assessment of Ukrainian victims in hard currency. As follows from his statement, in order to switch to European standards and just comply, Ukraine will have to pay at least $ 160 billion out of pocket. One does not have to believe in this figure, because there is no one to steal that amount in Ukraine. Nevertheless, the figure sounded and now no one in Europe can say that they, they say, were not in the know
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 15 November 2013 15: 46
    +8
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Go to EUROPE

    Neighbor Belarus. And we, dark, dictated, will see what happens. And then we are some wrestlers-svyadomyya with foam at the mouth, also pulled in there, at Kresa Ushodni (eastern lands) in Poland, or independent in the EU. We stock up on popcorn. We are waiting, sir.
  • A. Yaga
    A. Yaga 15 November 2013 23: 52
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Let them come in

    Actually, this is our (Russian) population on our territory. Somehow sorry. The feeling that part of Russia through a meat grinder ... angry
  • Tersky
    Tersky 15 November 2013 08: 43
    12
    Quote: Canep
    The author is sick.

    The author is just completely healthy, the government is sick and a good half of Ukraine’s 45 million.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 15 November 2013 10: 14
      +4
      Quote: Tersky
      the government and a good half of 45 million Ukraine are sick.


      Doubtful figure. The deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukradina Sergei Sobolev, on the air of the radio "Era" said that the number of voters in the territory of U 22 million.
      45 million people minus 22 million eligible voters (adult) = 23 million (children are obtained) ... but Kids Marketing, conducting its own analysis of the market for children's goods, claims that about 7.5 million children aged 0 to 14 years (and lie to them why not, they need to sell, the more children the better). But there are no official statistics. As there is no census from which the occupation authorities dodge as they can.
      In this case 23mln minus 7.5mln equals 15,5mln. And these 15,5 million, apparently already of that, have taken a sip of the full "happiness of nezalezhnost" and are now dug in with soil in cemeteries.
      But the storytellers demanding about the Holodomor are in demand - it’s necessary to create smoke for the authorities making money on the extinction of the population.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 10: 34
        +5
        Quote: Hudo
        But storytellers demanding about the Holodomor are in demand

        In, but it’s normal, Shcha Yatsenyuk or Tyagnibok or whatever it is, they will say that Russia has decided to arrange another famine in Ukraine. Demanded in connection with a lack of money. Although Yanukovia says this belay I can not understand what is the logic ...... According to the President, modernization of Ukrainian enterprises to EU standards can cost from $ 100 to $ 500 billion, but the country does not have that kind of money.

        At the same time, Yanukovych said that Ukraine lost 20 billion due to the gas issue and did not receive $ 15 billion due to the lack of cooperation with other countries, primarily with Russia.

        “We have come close to the criteria of the European Union, but have not yet reached them. The level of production is falling in the country, because our products are not in demand on the world market for well-known reasons.
        http://news.mail.ru/inworld/ukraina/global/112/politics/15647703/
        Then why does he say that the EU is beneficial ??????? Who understands Yanukovych-translate
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        2. silver_roman
          silver_roman 15 November 2013 16: 36
          +1
          As for me, so Yanyk just gave the back. He was made an offer that he could not refuse bully

          When he had plans for joining the EU, everything was clear there .... - suicide, now looking for logic in his words and actions is not a thankful job, because the logic is to hide the truth.
          I heard from influential and wealthy people that supposedly Yanyk bought for $ 14 billion. , of which 2 to him, and the rest to the development of the string, i.e. also him wassat
        3. Skiff-2
          Skiff-2 15 November 2013 17: 11
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov

          “We have come close to the criteria of the European Union, but have not yet reached them. The level of production in the country is falling because our products are not in demand on the world market for well-known reasonshttp: //news.mail.ru/inworld/ukraina/global/112/politics/15647703/
          Then why does he say that the EU is beneficial ??????? Who understands Yanukovych-translate

          Actually, it is not surprising to translate: unprecedented pressure from the Most Exceptional "Humpbacked Country" is exerted on the EU and Ukraine, it is clearly impossible to disobey, but also to obey - to his own destruction, so they get out as best they can - Old Europe demands freedom for Yule, knowing that Janek is this will not work, and he, seizing the opportunity to jump off, voices the figures of incurred and future losses, they say we are for integration with the association, but it’s too expensive ... "this is VERY good, but we cannot afford it." America needs all this idiot in order to prevent the reunification of the RUSSIAN peoples and, if possible, blow up Ukraine with a civil war. I don’t know if Yanukovych will get out, it needs will and wisdom like Putin’s, the only hope is that for Yanukovych this is a matter of physical survival.
  • vober
    vober 15 November 2013 11: 54
    +2
    The author is not sick - this is his sarcasm.
  • Gato
    Gato 15 November 2013 11: 56
    0
    [quote = Canep] The author is sick. [/ quot]
    That says it all. There’s nothing to add.
  • Polovec
    Polovec 15 November 2013 12: 02
    +2
    I don't think the author is sick. He is right that the entire opposition of Ukraine builds its programs on "what could have been if not for ..."
    To take away their association with the EU is to add another product to their basket for speculation.
    But we need to think about ourselves. Joining the association will cause a humanitarian catastrophe in a neighboring and, I am not afraid of this word, fraternal state. Where are refugees rushing to? Who needs to rake it all? Or should we build the Berlin Wall?
    After all, it is clear to everyone why the West needs Ukraine. Do they really believe in Ukraine that someone really cares about their happiness? They have long been counted. And the disaster in Ukraine for them is just another battle won in the war with Russia.
    How to persuade Ukrainians to invite Old Man Lukashenko to the kingdom? wink
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 15 November 2013 12: 22
    12
    The article is a mockery of insanity in the heads of Ukrainian cheers!
    To be honest, I really liked the article, namely the manner of writing.
    but at this moment tears almost flowed from laughter: "
    Sleep, son, let you dream about the European Union.
    "

    Quote: Canep
    They have already stepped on a rake a drop in mechanical engineering of 20% and chemistry by 30% in only 10 months of this year and the pre-default state of the economy.


    That's just the point: you know, if you put a frog in cold water and heat it, there will be a frog soup, and if you put a frog in boiling water, then it will most likely jump out.
    So it is with Ukraine.
    While living in Kiev, I personally go nuts with the number of young people dreaming of the EU.
    Their logic is simple: we went to Europe, looked at Catalonia and Prague, admired the picturesque architecture, went to the French Riviera, admired the gentle and warm sand and EVERYTHING !!!! We want the same and will be the same when we enter / plunge into the EU.
    Oh yes ... everyone is dreaming about the abolition of customs duties, and that they can all buy Mercedes at 5 euros per kilogram !!!
    Nobody at all thinks about the remnants of the industry, about the competitive EU market, which will tear local entrepreneurs and business "sharks" to pieces!
    No one has a clue about the personality of Zbigniew Bzierzinski and his "divide and rule".
    For me personally, joining the EU is absurd and hopeless, a final loss. WE CAN’T go there !!!
  • KEKS44
    KEKS44 15 November 2013 13: 22
    +4
    Quote: Canep
    They decided to compete with Putin ....

    For all the ambiguity of the attitude towards GDP, Yanukovych has to deal with him last thing. Not the same scale figure. Clear ... clearly. Our madhouse votes for Putin laughing
    In future elections, I will vote for Rogozin or Shoigu.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 15 November 2013 22: 05
      +2
      Quote: KEKS44
      Shoigu

      Heh ... Shoigu looks so harsh. Just like Putin 10 years ago. This system needs to be changed dramatically, even if by dictatorial methods. The swamp needs to be drained and not wait when it dries itself
  • vjhbc
    vjhbc 15 November 2013 14: 48
    +1
    the patient is not sick and I’ll say so Putin didn’t let the bitch go to the EU and now we live in shit and would join the association now everyone in gold would go Eureka would row with a shovel
    Quote: Canep
    The author is sick. He wants 45 million to slip into poverty and start cutting each other's throats in a civil war, so that their dream will come true now.
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 15 November 2013 16: 01
    +2
    Quote: Canep
    They decided to compete with Putin ...



    And how it all ended ...
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  • I am a Russian
    I am a Russian 15 November 2013 20: 11
    +1
    Quote: Canep
    They have already stepped on a rake a drop in mechanical engineering of 20% and chemistry by 30% in only 10 months of this year and the pre-default state of the economy.


    it is "temporary". After all, in front of my head was a carefree future -

    "The Association has become a legend, it is the theme of all talk shows and speeches, it is a golden dream, a dream of Communism, when you don’t have to work, but you can only GET."
  • Luna
    Luna 16 November 2013 01: 51
    +1
    Sapper
    In the government SHOCK

    Yes, there is no shock there, there is an attempt to milk preferences to the maximum, intimidating by going to another.

    as our Kiev and Moscow sources testify, in fact, today Yanukovych and Putin have not agreed. According to ZN.UA from Belokamennaya, everything Yanukovych wanted for the country and for himself personally, including the Family's entry into some super-profitable, but inaccessible to it today, schemes; Moscow's lack of support for an alternative candidate in the presidential election and active support in obtaining international legitimation after winning (at any cost) in 2015, Putin promised him. But Viktor Fedorovich hoped to receive all this tempting wealth for refusing to sign the Association Agreement, for a "pause" in relations with the EU. However, according to our sources, Vladimir Vladimirovich has set a strict condition: only a "complete stop", only the Customs Union - and not in words and promises, but according to the full procedure for joining, moreover, before the 2015 elections.

    ....... "The European Union needs to fully realize its part of global responsibility. The EU must go beyond declarative solidarity with Ukraine, which only provokes further external pressure from a third party and its willingness to punish Ukraine for bad behavior," the Ukrainian ambassador wrote in his letter to the Financial Times. The list of types of EU support offered by him is quite adequate: repeat
    facilitating the resumption of Ukraine-IMF cooperation;
    financial assistance;
    access to European markets for Ukrainian products that meet EU standards;
    directing EU assistance to the needs for further reforms in accordance with the Association Agreement;
    attraction of financial resources for the modernization of the Ukrainian gas transportation system and prevention of the implementation of the politically motivated South Stream project;
    advancement in solving the problem of outdated anti-dumping measures against Ukrainian exports, which has not been budged since the end of the XNUMXth century.

    http://gazeta.zn.ua/internal/vse-chem-mogu-_.html
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 November 2013 08: 06
    +8
    Yes, it seemed like they had already come ... The Orange Revolution Maidan, etc. Anti-Russian rhetoric Europe applauded (but didn’t give money ..))) Now they want to formalize it but the conditions are the same .. That's just all the enterprises will rise and it will be cold in winter will be (again Russia will be to blame as always) stop
  • taseka
    taseka 15 November 2013 13: 54
    +1
    The EU and NATO - did not prevent Serdyukov from becoming general in the Fed. agency - here you are - keep the people on the face in the face!
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 15 November 2013 16: 47
    +7
    The correct article.
    Let them try European goods.

    I put a picture on a neighboring branch, but it is very suitable for Ukrainian politics.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 18: 50
      +1
      Quote: Botanologist

      I put a picture on the next branch, n

      Super wassat
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 15 November 2013 18: 59
    +4
    Quote: saag
    And it’s true, until they step on this rake so that sparks light up the street, then they will only understand what this halva is

    However, Dear colleague, there is one option, when almost everyone will understand that "it has passed by, and thank God!", When the EU collapses and everyone starts to run away faster and faster!
    The likelihood of such events is quite real ...
  • makarov
    makarov 15 November 2013 07: 26
    +3
    Born on August 20, 1978 in Kiev. Finished Kiev Higher Tank Engineering School (Department of Regimental Intelligence). In 2005 he came to journalism. The author of the long-term hit Runet "Why the child is sleeping." He worked with the Ukrainian glossy publications Natalie, Edinstvennaya, Polina, Russian publications, the newspapers Moskovsky Komsomolets, Segodnya and others. Since 2008, he has been a regular contributor to From-UA online publications, the Observer.
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 15 November 2013 07: 46
      +5
      Quote: makarov
      Born on August 20, 1978 in Kiev. Finished Kiev Higher Tank Engineering School (Department of Regimental Intelligence). In 2005 he came to journalism. The author of the long-term hit Runet "Why the child is sleeping." He worked with the Ukrainian glossy publications Natalie, Edinstvennaya, Polina, Russian publications, the newspapers Moskovsky Komsomolets, Segodnya and others. Since 2008, he has been a regular contributor to From-UA online publications, the Observer.

      So what?
      1. Witch
        Witch 15 November 2013 12: 18
        +1
        Quote: Peaceful military
        So what?


        And all ...
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  • Neighbor
    Neighbor 15 November 2013 07: 27
    +7
    Smart learn from other people's mistakes, and the rest as stepping on a rake .....
    1. stayer
      stayer 15 November 2013 07: 34
      11
      A little tweak.
      The wise learn from the mistakes of others. Smart learn from their mistakes. But fools do not learn from their mistakes.
      1. alexng
        alexng 15 November 2013 08: 11
        +1
        Quote: stayer
        Until the child receives a discharge of current from the outlet, you explain to him at least a million times that it hurts - you won’t understand.


        If a freaking electric current? even fools learn from their mistakes.
      2. Cherdak
        Cherdak 15 November 2013 16: 08
        +3
        Quote: stayer
        And fools do not learn from their mistakes
    2. polly
      polly 15 November 2013 15: 35
      +3
      And since this tool is not in short supply, there are still many fun minutes ahead. The meeting continues ... laughing
    3. alone
      alone 15 November 2013 19: 01
      0
      Quote: Neighbor
      Smart learn from the mistakes of others, and the rest as stepping on a rake ..


      I don’t agree about learning from the mistakes of others. Because everyone knew what the country expects when it becomes a member of the WTO. And why did Russia get there and now suffer losses?
      1. Luna
        Luna 16 November 2013 01: 59
        +1
        What are the specific losses and why is Azerbaijan breaking into the WTO?

        Azerbaijan has been negotiating accession to the WTO since 2004. Their last round was held in June 2013 in Geneva. At the moment, the country is conducting bilateral negotiations on WTO accession with the United States, Japan, Brazil, Ecuador, Sri Lanka, the European Union, Norway, India, South Korea, Canada, Switzerland, Honduras, as well as Taiwan. Negotiations have already been completed and protocols have been signed with Turkey, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan.
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 15 November 2013 07: 29
    +2
    Signing or not signing, Ukraine, represented by its "president", has become .... the people have nothing to do with it. hi
    1. maxon106
      maxon106 15 November 2013 07: 35
      +3
      masochist, in a word. pushes his people on a rake
  • vladimirZ
    vladimirZ 15 November 2013 07: 34
    +7
    For the sake of the "pleasure" of the bitter knowledge of the association with the European Union, idiots, throwing people at the sacrifice, isn't it too cruel towards the normal people of Ukraine? Reason for what?
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 15 November 2013 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: vladimirZ
      isn’t it too cruel to normal people of Ukraine

      I agree. After all, a child from electric shock may die ... Such experiments are expensive.
    2. dmb
      dmb 15 November 2013 10: 23
      +6
      Well, sometimes you probably need it. Or are you going to make decisions in Moscow about the fate of citizens of another state, which Ukraine is today. I know such "fate solvers". Here on the site they are not called decent words, which is absolutely fair. It is certainly necessary to support the pro-Russian forces, but who is this? Julia with her shobla, or Yanukovych's bandits? Or maybe give Tyagnibok a lot of money to make him love "m..y"? I think it's better to build kindergartens on them.
  • Hleb
    Hleb 15 November 2013 07: 34
    0
    (Does anyone know about Russia / Germany dual / second citizenship? Is this possible? Not from the Internet, but who really learned the topic. Unsubscribe in PM)
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 07: 54
      0
      Quote: Gleb
      (Does anyone know about Russia / Germany dual / second citizenship? Is this possible?

      What's on the tail of the UK or the prosecutor’s office urgently need German citizenship laughing
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 15 November 2013 09: 10
        +1
        Sanya the war begins after OI. I am preparing the withdrawal options))
        Well, then I need to find out. In fact, the Germans are already smelling what smells
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 09: 31
          +4
          Quote: Gleb
          Sanya the war begins after OI. I am preparing the withdrawal options))

          Warrior belay then why do you need citizenship, and without it we will reach tanks in Germany.
          But if "Evil Putin" is meant by war, then catch your breath, nothing will happen.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 15 November 2013 09: 34
            +1
            so say the experts. about the war))
            No, I really need to find out, not for myself. But something is vague as they explain it.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 12: 22
              +1
              Quote: Gleb
              but something foggy as it is explained.

              Probably they say, Well, I’ll have one, right? laughing
        2. IRBIS
          IRBIS 15 November 2013 13: 46
          +3
          Quote: Gleb
          Sanya the war begins after OI. I am preparing the withdrawal options))

          Learn Chinese urgently! And more often look at the sun to reduce the cut of the eyes! wink
  • Pooh
    Pooh 15 November 2013 07: 36
    25
    Why ... have already tried "European values".
    1. Dmitriy1975
      Dmitriy1975 15 November 2013 08: 06
      0
      Let them try, the first time does not reach.
  • saag
    saag 15 November 2013 07: 40
    +1
    Quote: vladimirZ
    For the sake of the "pleasure" of the bitter knowledge of the association with the European Union, idiots, throwing people at the sacrifice, isn't it too cruel in relation to the normal people of Ukraine.

    Surgeons tear off bandages in one fell swoop - so humane
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Reason is what?

    What reason, there are purely personal business interests, nothing else, while a certain part of the population supports it, no persuasion will help here, this is really a kind of bright future, only imaginary
    1. 89501358976
      89501358976 15 November 2013 10: 59
      +1
      the day before yesterday I watched "politics" on the first, whinnying lol
      1. alone
        alone 15 November 2013 19: 03
        +1
        Quote: 89501358976
        the day before yesterday I watched "politics" on the first, whinnying


        belay but just didn’t try laughing? wassat
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 15 November 2013 07: 45
    +3
    Here attached, so attached. Well done!
    And it’s true that whatever the child would amuse, if only it would not cry ... If they don’t sign it, then it will howl ...
    As well, and if they sign ...
    Of the two evils, choose the lesser.
  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 15 November 2013 07: 53
    11
    Russia, at the moment, is favored by the association of Ukraine with the EU, and vice versa, cooperation with Ukraine, within the framework of the CU, is disadvantageous.
    Let me explain why: the Ukrainian population wants to join the EU (40% for the EU, 36% for the CU), if they do not enter the "association", they will endlessly speculate on the topic "but if we were signed to the EU." Plus, in Ukraine there are very strong Russophobic movements and the Ukrainian "gentry" is completely and completely Russophobic, and in the event of Ukraine joining the CU (instead of the EU), this Russophobia will not go anywhere, and on the contrary, it will grow even more, due to speculations on the topic "a what if we were signed in the EU ", and we will have to pay for all this, due to Ukraine's membership in the CU.
    As a result, Ukraine will benefit from Russia, stabilize the economy and exit the CU and go straight to Europe, which has already gained strength, at our expense.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 08: 23
      +5
      Quote: Warrawar
      "but if we were signed in the EU."

      And here is a vicious circle, if the economy signs and collapses, Russia will still be to blame. Read the comments of Akim and Kars hi
      Quote: Warrawar
      As a result, Ukraine will benefit from Russia, stabilize the economy and exit the CU and go straight to Europe, which has already gained strength, at our expense.

      Putin, what a sucker?
      1. Warrawar
        Warrawar 15 November 2013 08: 48
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And here is a vicious circle, if the economy signs and collapses, Russia will still be to blame. Read the comments of Akim and Kars

        Well, you see ... and so and so we will be "guilty", only in one of the cases, we for the right to be guilty, we will also lay out a round sum.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Putin, what a sucker?

        Putin is a goof. Don't you get it yet? From him Tajiks / Uzbeks / Kyrgyz twist ropes, he makes huge concessions in front of them, for the sake of some imaginary, "pseudo-imperial" benefits. Or the recent example of the arrest of the head of Uralkali - in the first week the Kremlin "demanded" that Belarus be "released immediately," and now there is talk that they say "Belarusians are right" and no one is demanding anything. Because Father Putin is not a decree and he publicly demonstrated it. And Putin understood this and was silent in a rag so that he would not be embarrassed even more.
        Well, in the case of Ukraine ... well, the president is also a fool there, but as for how to steal something and how to deceive someone, he is far from stupid (there is good experience). And he, with his gentry, he will divorce Putin as the last sucker.
        What can I say there, if the Ayzerbadzhan ethnic organized crime group (diaspora) dictates the conditions to our authorities ... Soon, passers-by, gypsy camps, will begin to set cancer. Here is a good entry about the very essence of Putin and his gang:
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 09: 34
          +4
          Quote: Warrawar
          only in one of the cases, we will lay out a round sum for the right to be guilty.

          In both cases, we will have to lay out round sums. A double-edged sword. Either we sponsor them in the CU or save the economy from the EU request
          Quote: Warrawar
          Putin goof. And you still do not understand this?

          Yeah, tell it to Yanukovych wink
          Quote: Warrawar
          And he, with his gentry, he will divorce Putin as the last sucker.

          Well here is the clinic-ChAO!
          1. Warrawar
            Warrawar 15 November 2013 09: 40
            -13 qualifying.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well here is the clinic-ChAO!

            This clinic, for 13 years, does not understand the nature of Putin. And continue to believe in the fairy tale "the king is good, these are bad boyars."
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 10: 13
              +7
              Quote: Warrawar
              This clinic, for 13 years, does not understand the nature of Putin. And continue to believe in the fairy tale "the king is good, these are bad boyars"

              There is a foreign policy, there is an internal one, if, in your opinion, Putin is in an external sucker, then goodbye! Minus you hi
              1. Warrawar
                Warrawar 15 November 2013 12: 58
                -3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                There is a foreign policy, there is an internal one, if, in your opinion, Putin is in an external sucker, then goodbye! Minus you

                Of course, in foreign policy, Putin is a sucker, if Russia wipes the floors like a rag.
                1. silver_roman
                  silver_roman 15 November 2013 16: 01
                  +4
                  Quote: Warrawar
                  Of course, in foreign policy, Putin is a sucker, if Russia wipes the floors like a rag.


                  What are your suggestions?
                  provide a couple of points about what you mean by the words "doormat" and give your examples of how to get out of this situation! we will talk further!
                  1. seller trucks
                    seller trucks 15 November 2013 16: 24
                    +4
                    Quote: silver_roman
                    What are your suggestions?


                    yes what offers there? at the white-tape hellish butcher.
              2. zmey_gadukin
                zmey_gadukin 15 November 2013 16: 39
                -11 qualifying.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                if you think Putin is in the external goof

                Libya leaked.
                Syria leaked. (just don’t say what you saved, because 2 years of war and a completely destroyed state is not a salvation, but an attempt not to lose face at the last moment)
                SK from it really twists the rope. With Georgia spread ...
                I am silent for Ukraine. Then time will tell. But there are few positive dynamics
                1. seller trucks
                  seller trucks 15 November 2013 16: 54
                  +3
                  Quote: zmey_gadukin
                  I am silent for Ukraine.


                  But what about Ukraine? what did she strive for there and found herself in ... opera, do not think that in Hebopera
                2. silver_roman
                  silver_roman 15 November 2013 16: 59
                  +4
                  He did not merge Libya ... DAM tried ... At that time, GDP was in the role of prime minister. And as you DO NOT know, the prime minister’s affairs are internal affairs!
                  it goes without saying that the power of GDP extends far beyond its official authority, but still has limitations.

                  All are so clever, but in fact the troil was no more. Syria was given a chance, if not for the participation of our Foreign Ministry and Putin as a whole, then Syria would no longer be as a single independent state.

                  Understand one thing: the RF itself is not yet independent. Our constitution was written by our enemies. And only now it seems that a very careful preparation is being planned for an equally accurate change of some points of the constitution.
                  Fedorov, listen / look ... it will be clearer.

                  ps To be honest, I’m even a little surprised at how Russia was able, under the whole press, to achieve such suggestible results against the backdrop of international politics. DO NOT CONFUSE WITH THE UNIVERSAL PURPOSES OF THE STATE !!!
                  1. zmey_gadukin
                    zmey_gadukin 16 November 2013 18: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: silver_roman
                    He did not merge Libya ... DAM tried

                    ha ha ha ha ah !!!! DAM merged ?! Rzhu in a voice!
                    DAM - idiot, don’t tell the Cossacks here. At the same time, you all know that I am right, you are just ashamed and you all blame on the dimon. Be honest with yourself at least ...
                    Quote: silver_roman
                    All are so clever, but in fact the troil was no more. Syria was given a chance, if not for the participation of our Foreign Ministry and Putin as a whole, then Syria would no longer be as a single independent state.

                    oh well ... the fate of your mid ... just before you had to mid bark with lavrov bark. At the union they barked, and so the Americans sagged together with the London Paris. And missiles in the cube easily. And what happened just a miserable attempt by Putin not to lose his face in foreign policy
                    Quote: silver_roman
                    ps To be honest, I'm even a little surprised at how Russia

                    was able under all press of reality to achieve such suggestible results against the backdrop of
                    international politics.

                    Who told you that? If Time writes about Putin, this does not mean that Putin has achieved anything serious ...
                3. IRBIS
                  IRBIS 15 November 2013 18: 36
                  +4
                  Quote: zmey_gadukin
                  Libya leaked.

                  That is yes! DAM tried ...
                  Quote: zmey_gadukin
                  Syria leaked. (just don’t say what you saved, because 2 of the war year and the completely destroyed state is not a salvation, but an attempt not to lose face at the last moment)

                  But did Russia have to get involved in the war? Sorry, but with horseradish?
                  Quote: zmey_gadukin
                  With Georgia spread ...

                  No, they just blasted me like a thin, impudent grunt ...
                  Quote: zmey_gadukin
                  I am silent for Ukraine. Then time will tell.

                  So they would have written that Ukraine is actively resisting salvation. And he does everything to "merge" with someone for a decent reward.
                  1. zmey_gadukin
                    zmey_gadukin 16 November 2013 18: 53
                    0
                    Quote: IRBIS
                    That is yes! DAM tried ...

                    my comment to the opponent above
                    Quote: IRBIS
                    But did Russia have to get involved in the war? Sorry, but with horseradish?

                    Well, if Russia claims to be a serious leader in geopolitics, then yes.
                    And it is not necessary to send troops. It is enough to say in the press that Russia does not recognize the Syrian opposition, that, excuse me, x..r we put on your European coalition, and if you rage, the Russian troops will put things in order very quickly. All! Do not need anything else.
                    Quote: IRBIS
                    No, they just blasted me like a thin, impudent grunt ...

                    Did it make it easier? It's better?
                    Quote: IRBIS
                    So they would have written that Ukraine is actively resisting salvation. And he does everything to "merge" with someone for a decent reward.

                    SEEING a little you suggested)))
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver 15 November 2013 14: 14
      +2
      Quote: Warrawar

      As a result, Ukraine will benefit from Russia, stabilizes the economy and get out of the vehicle and will go straight to Europe, already strong, at our expense.

      There is a problem. Stabilization of the economy, production growth will be coupled with Russian participation. And it is impossible to import this participation along with the departure of Ukraine laughing
      If the hypothetically restored cooperative ties are again "cut", this will AGAIN lead to the fact that there are already 20 years.
      It seems to me that they have not quite entered the meaning of the EAC. This association is aimed at creating powerful industries oriented to the domestic market. Among other things, of course.
      The idea of ​​the union is to create an internal 250-300 millionth consumer market.
      To leave this market, once having staked out in it, finally there is no sense.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 15 November 2013 16: 08
        +1
        What kind of production growth are you talking about? everything is exactly the opposite! stalemate in the economy of Ukraine.
    3. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 15 November 2013 22: 12
      0
      Quote: Warrawar
      this Russophobia will not go anywhere, and even vice versa will grow even more

      I think the orange will win the election again. I really don’t see any prospects for Ukraine. She could probably feed Europe, but everything has been divided there for a long time. Bulgaria fed the Union’s floor canned, everything’s fucked up. And Russia and Ukraine need a patriot in power who will lay down his life for the good of the state. But the longer a person is in power, the more power eats a person
  • Stinger
    Stinger 15 November 2013 07: 55
    +5
    Probably right. All the same, they will climb there at least out of harm. I will gouge out my eyes so that my mother-in-law had a curve. Yes, and Nietzsche argued: “Push the falling one!”, Bearing in mind that the most effective help is to give the opportunity to reach an extreme in which one can only rely on survival instincts in order to be reborn or perish.
  • Belogor
    Belogor 15 November 2013 07: 57
    +9
    Well, a man knocked over his compatriots.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 15 November 2013 09: 30
      10
      More over the manual. But the people went for his obstinacy.
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 15 November 2013 08: 35
    10
    from the Don.
    The author is right 200%. I am also for the association of Ukraine with the EU. I will explain. 40% of Ukrainians for the association. And who is it? I see, zapadentsy, but how many youth were waiting for the manna from heaven? They stole the dream of a freebie. And it would be necessary that they would have got everything: charms: European life. Without this, they would be a wolf to look at the TS and Russia. Moreover, having joined the TS of Ukraine, having become stronger, at any moment they could turn 180. Faiths to them have passed more than once!
  • 128mgb
    128mgb 15 November 2013 09: 22
    +3
    Yes, everything seems to be right-reflexes are developed in the process of training. But ordinary people are to blame?
    It seems to me that Ukraine should be federalized already, so that whoever wants to the left, who does not want to the right. Or maybe it’s going to this?
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 15 November 2013 09: 32
    +2
    Europe offered to “buy out” Tymoshenko for 20 billion dollars
    http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/abroad/evrope-predlozhili-vykupit-timoshenko-za-20-mil
    liardov-dollarov.d? id = 67096868
    wassat
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 15 November 2013 18: 40
      +3
      Quote: Peaceful military
      Europe offered to “buy out” Tymoshenko for 20 billion dollars

      Expensive, of course. We have such a force at a thousand per hour pull. And then, with a "full" package of services ...
  • Keeper
    Keeper 15 November 2013 09: 36
    +2
    If Ukraine entered the "assa'tsation" - it would simply be smashed into components, which then joined other countries. For example: Transcarpathia would go to Austria and Hungary! Ukraine would be dismembered into small groups! Sorry people !!!! Scary...
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 15 November 2013 09: 41
      +3
      Quote: Keeper
      If Ukraine entered the "assa'tsation" - it would simply be smashed into components, which then joined other countries. For example: Transcarpathia would go to Austria and Hungary! Ukraine would be dismembered into small groups! Sorry people !!!! Scary...

      Think right. But some parts would go to us, and I believe that this is far from the worst option.
  • Neo1982
    Neo1982 15 November 2013 09: 42
    +4
    "Let them join and it will be worse for them" - well, in general, this position is very flat, because from the point of view of the fight against the American occupation, this is a retreat. And besides, real people are dying - the population in Ukraine is decreasing very quickly.
  • vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 15 November 2013 10: 00
    +2
    As reported in the European Parliament, the observation mission of the European Parliament consisting of ex-presidents Pat Koks and Alexander Kwasniewski will return to Ukraine on Monday, November 18 in the evening. European Parliament observers will arrive in Ukraine on Monday in order to take part in a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on November 19 It is currently not known how long they intend to stay in Ukraine. "As much as is needed - everything will depend on the development of the situation," the European Parliament explained. On November 13, during a press conference, which took place on the results of the report of the Koks-Kwasniewski mission, Koks-Kwasniewski said this, and Koks himself - European politicians intend to stay in Ukraine as long as necessary to "secure the result."

    Today's celebration of the 22nd anniversary of independence to some extent may be the last for Ukraine. After all, the sovereignty that they love to be proud of here, after the Eastern Partnership summit in Vilnius, you can lose if you join the Association with the European Union. At least economic sovereignty. From economics to politics, however, is one step. (Alexander Balitsky)
  • Alexander I
    Alexander I 15 November 2013 10: 04
    +3
    Until the child gets the discharge current from the outlet, you explain to him at least a million times that it hurts - you will not understand. Give the people an association, do not deprive the child of the discharge current, do not give the credulous people a dream about what could be if ...

    Modern progress has made outlets inaccessible to most children, so the most gifted, on the spot, die from the knowledge gained!
  • m_o_r_o
    m_o_r_o 15 November 2013 10: 07
    +5
    Quote: Warrawar
    As a result, Ukraine will benefit from Russia, stabilize the economy and exit the CU and go straight to Europe, which has already gained strength, at our expense.

    Not with this Ukrainian "elite". They will not be able to receive, let alone use the benefits for Ukraine. Because they cannot, they cannot (even if they want to). They can and want only for themselves loved ones, while believing that they are doing good to the country. hi
  • PPP
    PPP 15 November 2013 10: 23
    +1
    It was necessary to give Ukraine plenty of "freedom" so that later there was something to compare.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 15 November 2013 10: 25
    +3
    Not everything has been decided yet by others; the intensity of the struggle has reached its peak. let's wait for the summit and there, or inhale, or startle. You can expect everything from the brothers of Ukrainians. They are very inconsistent in their decisions.
  • Egoza
    Egoza 15 November 2013 10: 26
    +5
    The author is NOT right. And disingenuous. The same Lutsenko, promising that he will sit quietly, has already eaten and begins to call for a new Maidan, is going to register his party, and his wife is a deputy in parliament (they put her in the checkpoint of the list, since Yurik was sitting) A new unwinding begins already on behalf of the "victim of the regime".
    If Ukraine signs the association, it will collapse very soon. And everyone will try to grab her tidbits. Yes, some in the memory will be very happy. But there is such a mentality. You know, once they interviewed an old woman. So she sincerely believed that the best thing was with the Poles! When "the lords were like lords! It was impossible to walk along the sidewalk. Pan goes - you go to the road. Then the advice came, they also put things in order, but worse, then the Germans turned back, immediately the owner was visible, but now everything is not right."
    And the people are sorry. And the survey figures given - sorry, I do not believe it. The referendum on joining the CU was not allowed to be held. And this means that the result would be completely different, and even it could not be falsified.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 15 November 2013 10: 34
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      given survey figures - sorry, I do not believe it. The referendum on joining the CU was not allowed to be held. And this means that the result would be completely different, and even it could not be falsified.


      The authorities, together with the opposition, could "paint on" during this referendum 10-15% in favor of the association, but apparently the question is that these very 10-15% are not enough even to gain more than 50%. That's the whole secret.
    2. alex13-61
      alex13-61 15 November 2013 11: 56
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      . The same Lutsenko, having promised that he would sit quietly, was already full and began to call for a new Maidan,

      Today it has already flashed in the media: that Yanukovych went to Putin to agree on assistance in suppressing the uprising in Ukraine.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 15 November 2013 12: 16
        +3
        Quote: alex13-61
        Today it has already flashed in the media: that Yanukovych went to Putin to agree on assistance in suppressing the uprising in Ukraine.


        Something this flicker in the media gateway of such insinuations painfully resembles the statements of Julia Timoshenko-Grigyan-capital from the rostrum of Maydaun in 2004, about "Russian special forces on Bankova Street in Kiev"(c) armed to the teeth, and prepared to destroy the "ideals of maydauna" addressed to Svidomo single-celled soap raging in Kiev on the boblo BAB.
  • velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 15 November 2013 10: 30
    0
    Until the child gets the discharge current from the outlet, you explain to him at least a million times that it hurts - you will not understand. Give the people an association, do not deprive the child of the discharge current, do not give the credulous people a dream about what could be if ...

    Great ending, article plus. On the one hand, the presence of sane people in Ukraine pleases, on the other hand, it upsets (for the reasons described in the article. Let them try, so that in the future there would be no "if only, then" and others like that).
  • morpogr
    morpogr 15 November 2013 10: 34
    +6
    Really, all 22 years of independence have not taught people that free cheese and a freebie can only be in a mousetrap. Europe will never do anything at a loss, forget about the freebies, look at the Greeks and their debt bondage, look at the Balts who are doing their best to leave to work far away from the homeland, the Bulgarians who are not masters in their country.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 15 November 2013 11: 27
      +2
      Quote: morpogr
      look at the Balts who are doing their best to leave for work away from their homeland, the Bulgarians who are not masters in their country.

      So the fact of the matter is that most of all advocate for association with the EU are those who have already bought factories there for themselves, and people who are eager to work there. You can't even imagine what people go to for the sake of survival. Once upon a time (at the beginning of "Independence") I was invited to accompany (translate) one type from the USA. I set the price - 5 bucks an hour. But the type also had a family with him. There was another girl with them. So she agreed to work for 1 dollar an hour. Later we found out with her. I tell her: "You can't value your work so low," and she told me: "And I agree to such payment, I have very bad money." So, according to the latest data, the salary in Ukraine is lower than in Russia and Belarus. Therefore, people are eager to go to Europe in order to earn something at least there. Moreover, they do not pay taxes on these earnings, and here their families receive benefits. It seems that they began to adopt new laws to stop this business, but so far it has stalled because of the fuss around the association.
  • UVB
    UVB 15 November 2013 10: 50
    +1
    I agree with the author, but I really do not want to experience all this in my own skin.
  • artifox
    artifox 15 November 2013 10: 56
    +2
    Quote: borisjdin1957
    Without this, they will look at the TS and Russia with a wolf. Moreover, having joined the TS. Having strengthened, Ukraine can turn 180 at any moment

    That's it!!! Let it be better to sign this association agreement with the EU - it is still not an association yet - and then, after a year, having felt it, they are turned around 180 (To the TS - and we are damaging yet :)).
  • Little Russia
    Little Russia 15 November 2013 11: 00
    +7
    Quote: UVB
    I agree with the author, but I really do not want to experience all this in my own skin.

    Like I said it myself ...
    Considering that Kiev is hung with ribbons and posters "for Europa", then only plunging headlong into the realities of this world can cure this squalor and those who support it. Dip and hold. Or bloodletting.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 15 November 2013 11: 29
    +2
    So again, Ukraine. Let's, at least out of sports interest, see what comes out of this "association", maybe Ukrainians will really heal "better." After all, if a person climbs into a noose at will, then it is pointless to take him out of there, he will still strangle himself. I don't know what they want to find in the European Union, but it is pointless to dissuade them, it is too late to outbid, and there is no desire to invade there and put things in order, the gut is thin, you can only observe and draw conclusions.
  • In the book
    In the book 15 November 2013 11: 30
    +1
    Quote:
    "... I know very well that the Ukrainian people love. He loves what has not happened. He will cherish the legend of Polubotka's gold, he will pass on to descendants frozen in cheap Chinese cradles the legend:" ... and then every inhabitant of Ukraine received for one hundred thousand dollars ... like this, son ... ".

    Even if we discard part of sarcasm, we can conclude that A. Shariy does not know his people well
    I don’t know by whom he judges that “... he loves the Ukrainian people”. Probably, in their environment. Then I will not envy him, he is surrounded by not the best representatives of the human race.
  • vvp2412
    vvp2412 15 November 2013 12: 08
    +1
    That absolutely agrees with the author of the article! There’s nothing to add!
  • Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 15 November 2013 12: 48
    +4
    I want to sign an association! Sign, fools!
    Anatoly Shariy,

    Just because someone wants something does not mean that everyone wants it! According to all the rules, it would be necessary to hold a referendum and ask the people themselves what he, the people want. And after shouting, you can demand.
  • avg
    avg 15 November 2013 12: 51
    +2
    Obviously, the Ukrainians finally understood the meaning of the statement of our unforgettable ambassador V.S. Chernomyrdin: "No, we have no place to enter. We will not enter where, we all fall into one ..." fool
  • Ross
    Ross 15 November 2013 13: 10
    +4
    [quote = Kars] [quote = Alexander Romanov], Are you going to the rally? [/ quote]
    I am not. Laziness.

    And in principle, you can sit on the site from the Maidan)) if that.
    Let's see what Yanukovych is negotiating with from Moscow and Brussels. We would have to send both of them further and agree with China (by the way, milk powder was redirected there to 2008 in Russia) and the Saudis. [/ Quot [quote = Орик] [quote] I no laziness. ... Let's see what Yanukovych is negotiating with from Moscow and Brussels. To send both of them further and agree with China (by the way, milk powder was redirected there to 2008 in Russia) and Saudis. [/ Quote]
    Well, oooooochen in Ukrainian about what the author writes. We tried to sit on two chairs, few, come on four. fellow[/ Quote]
    Everything is like in the old days of Zaporizhzhya Sich. Either to the Turkish Sultan to enroll in subjects, then to the Moscow Tsar, or even to the Polish panam. The same chairs.
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 15 November 2013 13: 11
    +8
    The banter of the article is clear. But only when they enter, they ruin the last factories and throw out the last unemployed, nothing can be returned back. Of course, cooperation with Russia is also of little use. The Russians, such as the Abramovichs and Vekselbergs, will begin to rob. But of the two evils, you still need to choose the lesser and count.
    We do not want to understand what Ukrainians choose between cultural capitalism and wild capitalism. But they do not understand that there is essentially no difference. To do this, it was necessary to study Marx at worst, or Lenin, who had recently been forgotten, but in vain.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 15 November 2013 14: 25
      +3
      Quote: indifferent
      The banter of the article is clear ....

      Is it just banter? Pain and truth.
      Three days ago, I expressed here, in a similar topic, a similar thought: they say, they would have gone to the EU and tried. Duc, there was also pain.
  • So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 15 November 2013 13: 24
    +2
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: Canep
    The author is sick.

    The author is just completely healthy, the government is sick and a good half of Ukraine’s 45 million.

    And who are you a psychiatrist for half the people of Ukraine sign?
    The people are a silent herd, where the "Kermanians" will turn there and trudge to the slaughter ... We do not have people or a person who would take responsibility to disperse a gang of thieves in power.
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  • kostofan
    kostofan 15 November 2013 13: 34
    +2
    Everything is correctly written in the article.
  • volan
    volan 15 November 2013 14: 04
    +1
    His mother! A great weight off one's mind!!!!
  • USNik
    USNik 15 November 2013 14: 36
    +7
    I am glad that Anatoly Sharia’s articles got to the topwar, he writes well. And about the non-entry and temporary postponement of entry into the EU, I will leave a comment I like from the polemic.
    Yes you sho! ?? It is impossible to wait! .. After all, then the EU doors can forever be closed before the smart and hardworking Galician light elves! And where do you order the Volyn physicists to go - nuclear scientists, Ternopil shipbuilders or Lviv specialists in the field of space defense ?? ... What can they do now without Warsaw sorting? .. Instead of Berlin Lviv streets of revenge? Sheep to graze, to blow in trembita, Farion-ovskoy move in the style - "on kshtalt, kneipa, carmenadli, patelia, opiniya, ekszelentsiya, eksploziya, rover, kolezhanka" - study ?? ..))
    laughing
  • Grbear
    Grbear 15 November 2013 14: 56
    +3
    Putin has calculated the situation from-and-to. Now Wu is on the "road" to the EU, but no longer in the CU.
    The two years they gave in Brussels is enough for the young trappers to give birth to children and to think. The industry in the Russian sales market will not rise - too much has been "skipped". It means that investors will have to be allowed in. Miller, he doesn't spare his own people - he will "twist" everything for gas.
    In general - not good.
    The EU will not forgive, Putin will not forget. So that hi .
  • German
    German 15 November 2013 15: 01
    -1
    Super! Huge Fat Plus Plus to the author !!! mme Correctly said: until our faces are poked in the face of the city, but we don’t understand this .. nasty thing ... laughing
  • MG42
    MG42 15 November 2013 15: 02
    +5
    The association Ukraine = EU will be firmly signed firmly it will only be firmly possible next week, until 50 \ 50. I am confused that Ukraine has completely stopped importing Russian gas, which means Yanukovych decided to play Russian roulette with someone who did the intrigue until the last moment. .
    But the Europeans, of course, are insulting and they don’t want to understand that they were used in the dark, how many times dozens of times the Cox = Kwasniewski’s mission arrived is not even funny ..
  • Alex toll
    Alex toll 15 November 2013 15: 13
    +3
    The article generally makes you look at the situation on the other hand - thanks!

    The funny thing is not Ukraine is resisting Russia, but Europe))))) I am more than sure that all these "bribes, bribery, profits, bills with stolen from the people" Russian and Ukrainian politicians would have had enough science to invent a cure for the worst diseases and for stir up a colony on Mars alone, or come up with clean energy - humanity is directing its energy in the wrong direction, but to satisfy its base needs - material wishes, and a lot of pieces of paper that they will exchange for expensive cars and some other thread of crap, which will become obsolete in a year, therefore how will a new toy be released in a year ................
    It seems to me that when humanity finds a new purpose for its existence, not candy wrappers, and follows the common idea of ​​the prosperity of mankind, and not enrichment, a new round of human history will come and we will be able to see the stars and their inhabitants, but for now we’ll cope because of the dough as a whole .
    Here the market was not divided, then someone said "and Masha from 8b gives for boobs to hold on for 10 rubles" you need to go to her class, but in fact not Masha, no boobs .............. ...

    Stuck already no words !!!!
  • Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 15 November 2013 15: 28
    +4
    Although they would sign an agreement with the EU, at least they didn’t sign it, and the internal political situation in Ukraine will become even more heated. And I am glad about this, like the author of the article. Society is split, including territorially. And when the Westerners go on a campaign on the left bank, I think Russia has long been ready for this event and will take these areas under protection. And I don’t care what sauce will split in Ukraine, the result will be one. Taking Russia under protection of the population of left-bank Ukraine in order to prevent bloodshed. And more is not necessary.
  • zloi_dekabr
    zloi_dekabr 15 November 2013 15: 38
    +2
    Normal article, with humor. One thing is worrying - there are relatives in Dnepropetrovsk, it’s not so sweet there, and if the EU ... Although I think something is that the agent of the Darkest (well, the one that is Angela) would not let Ukrainians into the EU )) And this hour, in anticipation of default, we will not take them in the vehicle too. That default will break out, we will take the Crimea for their debts, we will rewrite the entire industry, we will put our prezik in Kiev, then we ask for favors in the TS))).
  • Altona
    Altona 15 November 2013 17: 14
    +6
    It would be good for all promising politicians to give out "gifts" in the form of luli, if their promises do not come true ... All their promises and promises are recorded and it is not difficult to track the "promises spilling" ... For privatization, for a "bright capitalist future", for " pluralism without censorship ", for" lying on the rails ", for" nano "and" fragmentation of the UES ", for" outsourcing "in the army, for the WTO, for Belovezhskaya Pushcha, for the" European choice ", for the" Maidan ", for" collateral auctions "... Put such a poor fellow in the square and in the" chakras "with his feet, or with his fist in the" plywood "so that the tie barrette with a bruise enters the breastbone ... To beat the enemies of the people strictly in the red crown or forehead birthmark ... Yeltsin's bones are periodically transported by tram and thrown off into the Moskva River ...
  • asin
    asin 15 November 2013 17: 49
    +2
    You in Russia absolutely do not understand how things really are in our Ukraine. I watch your news daily and there is such nonsense about Ukraine. Although it is clear that this is being done in order to create a certain opinion among the Russians, Putin is advantageous. If you think that I am opposed to Putin, then this is not so. I fully support him on politics in Syria and on the Americans and I think that you will not find a better president in the next 5-10 years. But in relation to Ukraine, he acts like a seasoned imperialist. Well, your Vekselberg came to us in Zaporozhye at the aluminum plant (bought) and closed it, because He has his own production in Russia. That is, Russia does not need an economically strong Ukraine, because then she will be more independent. The association will allow us (backgammon) to quickly throw off the hated criminal freak Yanyk, and Putin can help him stay in power for another five years (to his advantage) and we will have a complete ..ope here. Already - there is no work, gold and foreign exchange reserves are running out, I think that in a year and pensions will cease to pay. We did not have such freak thieves as the Party of Regions. So the guys at this stage are better for the people of the Association than the Customs Union.
    1. Sour
      Sour 15 November 2013 18: 27
      +4
      Quote: asin
      But in relation to Ukraine, he acts like a seasoned imperialist.

      Do not exaggerate.
      It's just that Putin is insistently hinting to Ukraine that Russia does not owe anything to anyone. You have been enjoying independence from Russia for over 20 years there. But somehow you lose sight of the fact that Russia, too, does not depend on Ukraine and is a completely independent, independent power. And it is not necessary to call Russia's upholding of its interests "imperialism". Once again, Russia owes nothing to anyone.
      And if you mean the rhetoric, then everything is fine here too. Your leaders never miss an opportunity to fart in the direction of Russia, in the hope that the West will fall in love with it. But for some reason, it is customary for you to expect compliments from Russia in response. And if there are no compliments, then this is immediately "imperialism".
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 15 November 2013 18: 44
      0
      Quote: asin
      So the guys at this stage are better for the people of the Association than the Customs Union.

      Good luck to all of you along the way! You will pass by - pass!
  • asin
    asin 15 November 2013 17: 53
    0
    If anyone is interested in the real situation in Ukraine, then you are here http://www.pravda.com.ua
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 15 November 2013 18: 49
      +5
      Quote: asin
      If anyone is interested in the real situation in Ukraine, then you are here http://www.pravda.com.ua


      What are you, dear? "UP" writes the TRUTH ??? Try to express in the comments at least a hint of doubt about the "sanctity" of Yulka Timoshkonko or the expediency of the association, and you will first be declared an agent of Kreml and Yanukevich in an offensive form (probably mate), and then soon you will be banned forever.
      The articles there are of a similar base injury. Not a resource, but slag and sludge.
  • Arkan
    Arkan 15 November 2013 18: 10
    +1
    "The physiological basis of the" Association "is a short-term nervous connection, and the foundation of this psychological phenomenon rests on conditioned reflexes. A conditioned reflex is an acquired reflex characteristic of an individual (individual). The study of conditioned reflexes is primarily associated with the name of I.P. Pavlov ( For example, if a dog is allowed to sniff meat, then it secretes gastric juice (this is an unconditioned reflex). If, at the same time as the appearance of meat, the bell rings, then the dog's nervous system associates this sound with food, and gastric juice will be secreted in response to the call, even if no meat is presented). " In general, such is the "association" for this whole mess. They showed a picture of the dolchevita, the juice stood out, but the dolcevita itself was not allowed to taste, BUT THE REFLEX IS PRODUCED.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 15 November 2013 18: 32
      +1
      and not far from the ulcer, or worse! stop