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KBM NPK Completed Iskander-M Supplies for 2013 Year

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KBM NPK Completed Iskander-M Supplies for 2013 Year



Today, at the Kapustin Yar range in the Astrakhan region, Rostec State Corporation, affiliated with the Scientific and Production Corporation “Engineering Design Bureau” (NPK “KBM”), transferred to the Russian Defense Ministry weapons and military equipment of the Iskander-M missile system to equip the missile brigade of the Southern Military District ( JUVO). Thus, NPK KBM successfully fulfilled the state defense order for the supply of brigade sets of the Iskander-M complex for 2013 a year.

Starting positions, a deployed command post, combat vehicles and missiles were demonstrated at the test site. An electronic launch of training missiles simulating the application of a conventional group missile strike was also made.

Before the adoption of the Iskander-M complexes, military personnel from the missile brigade of the Southern Military District underwent a two-month training at the Training Center for Combat Use of Rocket Forces and Artillery of the Ground Forces in the Astrakhan Region.

“NPK KBM clearly and on time fulfills all obligations regarding the complete delivery of Iskander-M to the troops,” said Valery Kashin, general director and general designer of KBK NPK. “Today, KBM is the only supplier of tactical missile systems in the interests of the Ministry of Defense.”

The Iskander-M missile system significantly surpasses the best foreign analogues in its class in accuracy and speed in preparing missiles for launch. In addition, the complex can be equipped with various types of missiles. Iskander-M has a high probability of overcoming the enemy's missile defense due to a unique stealth technology. The rocket maneuvers with high overloads and flies along an unpredictable trajectory for the enemy.

In 2011, NPK KBM and the Ministry of Defense signed a long-term state contract for the supply of 10 brigade sets of the Iskander-M complex to equip the rocket brigades of the Russian ground forces. It will allow the Ministry of Defense to fully equip the Iskander-M complexes with the missile brigades of the Ground Forces of the Russian army, and NPK KBM to plan its activities and the activities of cooperation enterprises for the long term.

Under the terms of the contract, starting from 2013, NPK KBM should transfer to the troops two sets of the complex per year. The first delivery in accordance with the schedule approved by the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense took place at the end of June of this year. For the first time, it was implemented as a complete set, which is a fundamentally new approach, both for industrial enterprises and for the armed forces. Prior to this, elements of the complex were sent to the troops separately, under separate contracts, which did not provide either the required rate of rearmament or a single approach to pricing.

In the future, the complex will become the basis of the Russian Land Forces rocket formations.

Research and Production Corporation "Engineering Design Bureau" (NPK "KBM") was established in 1942 year. Over the 70-year period, more than 40 of various types of weapons were commissioned, including the Malyutka, Shturm-S and Shturm-V anti-tank systems, Strela-2 and Igla, and Tochka, "Point-U", OTRK "Oka". He is the lead developer of portable anti-aircraft (Igla-S), anti-tank (Chrysanthemus-S), operational tactical missile systems (Iskander-M), active protection complexes (Arena), protective equipment , maintenance tools. It is part of Rostec State Corporation. General Director and General Designer - Valery Kashin.

Rostekhnologii State Corporation (Rostec) is a Russian corporation established in 2007 to promote the development, production and export of high-tech industrial products for civil and military use. It includes 663 organizations, of which 8 holding companies in the defense industry complex and 5 - in civilian industries are currently formed. Rostec organizations are located on the territory of 60 subjects of the Russian Federation and supply products to the markets of more than 70 countries. Rostec's revenue in 2012 amounted to 931 billion rubles, net profit - 38,5 billion rubles. Tax deductions to budgets of all levels exceeded 109 billion rubles.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 14 November 2013 16: 53
    51
    Well, that’s how the news should be submitted, done, delivered. otherwise everything will be planned ...
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 14 November 2013 17: 33
      +7
      That's right for you +
    2. Army1
      Army1 14 November 2013 17: 39
      +2
      I still care about the question of who is in the know, The range of a BALLISTIC missile is not exportable 500 km, it’s not enough, of course, there are cruise P 500, but at least 1000-1500 km
      1. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor 14 November 2013 17: 48
        +7
        Quote: Army1
        I still care about the question of who is in the know, The range of a BALLISTIC missile is not exportable 500 km, it’s not enough, of course, there are cruise P 500, but at least 1000-1500 km

        Not much, of course. And the winged range, in theory, should not exceed the same 500 km. This is due to the INF Treaty ban treaty, according to which missiles with a range of 500 - 5500 km are prohibited
        1. Tarpon
          Tarpon 14 November 2013 17: 56
          +3
          For KR, range limitations do not apply.
          1. Associate Professor
            Associate Professor 14 November 2013 17: 58
            +6
            Quote: Tarpon
            For KR, range limitations do not apply.

            In the Kyrgyz Republic terrestrial basing spreads. Read the contract.
            1. sens99.ru
              sens99.ru 14 November 2013 18: 29
              +8
              And I have long said: "It's time to get out of the INF and START." Why is it necessary!
              1. clidon
                clidon 14 November 2013 20: 20
                +4
                At least in order to prevent medium-range missiles from appearing on the European border with Russia. Now only in Poland and Romania. With an approach time of 10 minutes.
                1. Associate Professor
                  Associate Professor 14 November 2013 20: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: clidon
                  At least in order to prevent medium-range missiles from appearing on the European border with Russia. Now only in Poland and Romania. With an approach time of 10 minutes.

                  And for the first time, were we the first to deploy the RSD?
                  I suspect something, and not only I, in fact, that EuroPRO is not only a missile defense system, but it is quite possible that not only anti-aircraft missiles, but also cruise and ballistic missiles can be installed in missile mines, only this time flying time there will be even fewer than before from the territory of Germany. Hence our leadership has such concern about these objects. Since the missile defense alone is unlikely to pose a danger (and is unlikely to represent at least another 10 years) for our new Yars ICBMs.
                  1. clidon
                    clidon 14 November 2013 21: 48
                    +2
                    It is not so easy to place anti-missile missiles, a different type of weapon, "unnoticed" in mines. In addition, we must demand guarantees from NATO in the negotiations and seek the possibility of site inspections just on the basis of the INF Treaty.
                    1. Associate Professor
                      Associate Professor 14 November 2013 22: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: clidon
                      It is not so easy to place anti-missile missiles, a different type of weapon, "unnoticed" in mines. In addition, we must demand guarantees from NATO in the negotiations and seek the possibility of site inspections just on the basis of the INF Treaty.

                      Well, how do we know what kind of mines will be there? Practice has shown that talking with them is not useful. So Putin abolished the missile defense negotiation group with NATO. I think that we will soon leave the INF Treaty, all the more so since S. Ivanov recently voiced such a need, and Putin expressed doubts about the correct destruction of the INF Treaty. Such statements at such a level are simply not made
                      1. Lord of the Sith
                        Lord of the Sith 15 November 2013 02: 07
                        0
                        Vryatli will leave, at least in the near future they will not leave. The Americans fought off the war in Syria and Russia now does not need to aggravate the situation.
                      2. clidon
                        clidon 15 November 2013 16: 52
                        0
                        Well, how do we know what kind of mines will be there? Practice has shown that talking with them is not useful. So Putin abolished the missile defense negotiation group with NATO. I think that we will soon leave the INF Treaty, all the more so since S. Ivanov recently voiced such a need, and Putin expressed doubts about the correct destruction of the INF Treaty. Such statements at such a level are simply not made


                        This is from the same category as the fact that “how do we know that it’s been worthless for a long time there. The project by which the Americans create their EuroPRO is generally open and is being discussed. In addition, there are such things as intelligence. Therefore, it is not worth giving NATO a chance to openly deploy medium-range missiles along its borders, given the virtual absence of capabilities to intercept them.
                2. Bashkaus
                  Bashkaus 14 November 2013 23: 51
                  +3
                  that EuroPRO is not only a missile defense system, but it is quite possible that not only anti-aircraft missiles, but also cruise and ballistic missiles can be installed in missile silos
                  Let's think logically, in principle "option", but:
                  1-number of installations is limited and stationary.
                  2-shafts are relatively small in size, which means that the missiles will carry a weight limit for warheads.
                  Well, what do you think, will there be on the ground dislocated along all axes and parameters in order to shoot small in number and conditionally low-power missiles at the enemy knowing that this is not enough even to partially neutralize the enemy. In addition, this enemy, without thinking, will send back and forth strong megaton-class lyuli. And if you combine a strike with light and heavy missiles, then all the same, the scenario development algorithm will inevitably return to the point of "reciprocating luli". If there is no difference, why pay more?
                  1. Associate Professor
                    Associate Professor 15 November 2013 00: 08
                    +1
                    Quote: Bashkaus
                    Let's think logically

                    Let's. Who is the limited number of installations? How do you know which mines are there? And for what purpose did the Americans place the Pershing in Germany?
          2. AVV
            AVV 14 November 2013 23: 30
            0
            But isn’t it time for us to withdraw from this agreement, after all, they concluded, with the expectation, to tie our hands !!! The Yankees, without consulting with anyone, withdrew from the ABM Treaty, their national security was in jeopardy from him, but what is not the same with us, is national security not important ???
        2. Nick
          Nick 14 November 2013 21: 23
          0
          Quote: Tarpon
          For KR, range limitations do not apply.

          Our new KR X-555, the carrier of which is the supersonic strategist Tu-160, has a range of over 5000 km.
          1. Associate Professor
            Associate Professor 14 November 2013 21: 36
            +3
            Quote: Nick
            Our new KR X-555, the carrier of which is the supersonic strategist Tu-160, has a range of over 5000 km.

            And you do not confuse it with X-101/102?
  2. T-100
    T-100 14 November 2013 19: 30
    +3
    They did everything on time, give a bonus to employees)))
  3. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 14 November 2013 23: 39
    0
    Well, that’s how the news should be submitted, done, delivered. otherwise everything will be planned ...
    So I have been spitting on news like "in the X year, the Russian army will receive the number of equipment Z"
    And here, as they say, everything is clear, well done, December has not come yet, and the equipment has been delivered, or we have sewed in one place at the enterprise, we do annual work for 2 weeks and nothing, everything is on time, as it should)))
    1. Associate Professor
      Associate Professor 14 November 2013 23: 41
      0
      Quote: Bashkaus
      whether at our enterprise it was sewn in one place, we do annual work for 2 weeks and nothing, everything is on time, as it should)))

      Where do you work?)))
  4. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 15 November 2013 02: 18
    +4
    Here he is handsome!

    In total, three brigades are armed 12 PU in each and the training division with 4 PU. Total 40 PU

    Click the mouse on the second picture and it will increase.


  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 14 November 2013 16: 55
    +5
    About combat use


    Mikhail Barabanov, an expert at Moscow Defense Brief, points out that the Iskander complex was deployed at the base of a separate tank battalion in Gori. As a result of a direct hit of the warhead in the arms depot of the Georgian battalion, it detonated. Moreover, the author notes that this information is based on unverified sources.
    According to the head of the Analytical Department of the Georgian Ministry of Internal Affairs, Shota Utiashvili, Russia used Iskander missile systems at facilities in Poti, Gori and the Baku-Supsa pipeline.

    In the blogs, Utiashvili’s statement was widely discussed and was received ambiguously, since some of the photographs of several marching steps presented as evidence do not refer to Iskander, but to Tochka-U 9M79 missiles, and fragments with printed with the code 9M723, corresponding to the designation of missiles of the Iskander complex.
    1. 3935333
      3935333 14 November 2013 17: 12
      +4
      the Iskander were not there - they were working with Tochka. 100%
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 14 November 2013 17: 24
        +5
        But what is this? just wondering!
        1. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 14 November 2013 17: 28
          20
          Quote: BARKAS
          But what is this? just wondering!

          That’s exactly the point

          And here is the Iskander rocket
          1. Alexha
            Alexha 14 November 2013 18: 34
            0
            Is Iskander not two of them?
            1. Associate Professor
              Associate Professor 14 November 2013 18: 38
              +5
              Quote: AlexHa
              Is Iskander not two of them?

              Yes, two. But they can rise separately from each other
              1. Alexha
                Alexha 14 November 2013 20: 37
                0
                No, that separately rise this hedgehog is understandable. But I do not see a place for the second rocket in the photo.
                1. Associate Professor
                  Associate Professor 14 November 2013 21: 19
                  +5
                  Quote: AlexHa
                  No, that separately rise this hedgehog is understandable. But I do not see a place for the second rocket in the photo.

                  The photo was unsuccessfully taken. There is a place there
                2. Sergius
                  Sergius 14 November 2013 21: 24
                  +5
                  Iskander-E export version has one missile per launcher. Iskander-M goes to the troops and has two missiles at the launcher.
        2. rpek32
          rpek32 14 November 2013 17: 57
          +5
          Quote: BARKAS
          But what is this? just wondering!

          point fell on the cornfield. what such and such?
        3. alone
          alone 14 November 2013 22: 31
          +3
          piece of point !! yes
        4. Akhtuba73
          Akhtuba73 14 November 2013 23: 03
          +4
          Quote: BARKAS
          But what is this?

          Niva hit the mark.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 14 November 2013 17: 27
        +5
        Quote: 3935333
        the Iskander were not there - they were working with Tochka. 100%


        And who is arguing? - only Georgians and Dutch

        Based on the results of the Dutch authorities' investigation into the death of their cameraman in Gori during the conflict in August 2008, it was concluded that the journalist had died precisely from the explosion of a high-explosive fragmentation charge of an Iskander (Iskander-E "missile) can deliver a cluster (with 54 combat elements), penetrating, high-explosive fragmentation, and in the future, other warheads)
        1. avg
          avg 14 November 2013 17: 54
          +5
          Quote: Vadivak
          the Iskander were not there - they were working with Tochka. 100%. Who's arguing? - only Georgians and Dutch

          It’s just that the Georgians and the Dutch think that Iskander-E is ethnogruzin. yes
  • PROXOR
    PROXOR 14 November 2013 16: 55
    +1
    BEAUTY !!!!
  • Associate Professor
    Associate Professor 14 November 2013 17: 01
    +7
    In general, everything is fine with supplies to the Army. Still shipbuilding shift. Brigade kit - is, as I understand it, 12 launchers with 24 missiles?
    1. 3935333
      3935333 14 November 2013 17: 18
      +4
      yes 12 complexes each two gifts for "partners"
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 14 November 2013 19: 51
        0
        But what about the stock?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 15 November 2013 02: 12
          0
          This refers to one salvo of the entire brigade. The stock is of course, but it takes time to recharge.
      2. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor 14 November 2013 19: 57
        +7
        Quote: 3935333
        yes 12 complexes each two gifts for "partners"

        The "partners" will be happy. By the way, shooting at close range of Iskander launch:
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 15 November 2013 02: 14
          +2
          Thank you for the video!
        2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 15 November 2013 09: 03
          +3
          Beauties, then what! good
  • Aristarch
    Aristarch 14 November 2013 17: 05
    +3
    Revived power!
  • Wiruz
    Wiruz 14 November 2013 17: 09
    +4
    A couple could be immediately relocated to Kaliningrad laughing
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 November 2013 17: 19
      +3
      Quote: Wiruz
      A couple could be immediately relocated to Kaliningrad

      On November 5, 2008, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, speaking to the Federal Assembly, said that the response to the US missile defense system in Poland would be the deployment of Iskander missile systems in the Kaliningrad Region. But after the US refused to deploy missile defense in Eastern Europe, D. Medvedev said that in response, Russia would not deploy this complex in the Kaliningrad region ..


      But in vain ....
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 14 November 2013 18: 53
        +1
        Then to the Caucasus near the Abkhaz border. NATO seems to have a missile defense system in Turkey
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 14 November 2013 20: 10
          +4
          Quote: Vadivak
          The response to the US missile defense system in Poland will be the deployment of Iskander missile systems in the Kaliningrad Region.
          In the policy of military parity, the answer must be full-fledged and consistent. "Kolkhoznik" Khrushchev responded to the deployment of American missiles in Turkey by throwing at Havana. "They would have" suppressed "Poland, you look now Ceausescu's children would not be so happy.
          Quote: Vadivak
          Russia will not place this complex in the Kaliningrad region ..
          Oh time! Oh manners!
    2. AVV
      AVV 14 November 2013 23: 41
      +2
      Romanians, on the side, it is necessary to place a couple of divisions !!!
  • 3935333
    3935333 14 November 2013 17: 10
    0
    2 sets per year, yes, "tight deadlines". The next two should be put on alert duty in Transnistria (I think the PMR will not be against it, and the Romanians will screech .... but this must be done, let them think about missile defense together with Lyakhi more soberly.) Kaliningrad, PMR, Southern Federal District - we will close, then Far Eastern Federal District (I think there are 6 sets at once, we will not be mistaken) and then a new contract for another 10-20 sets (but already according to the well-oiled production cycle - 4-6 sets per year. Although judging by the speech of Mr. Ulyukaev, our country will have a protracted stagnation (and the funny thing is that the government (for the first time in history) admitted this, and even more - the government openly says that it does not know what to do.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 14 November 2013 17: 43
      +3
      Quote: 3935333
      2 sets per year, yes, "tight deadlines".

      Have you figured out what it means: "2 sets per year"?
      1. Alexha
        Alexha 15 November 2013 06: 56
        0
        2 PUs per year - no?
        1. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 15 November 2013 10: 45
          +1
          Quote: AlexHa
          2 PUs per year - no?

          No. 24 PU per year
  • avg
    avg 14 November 2013 17: 36
    0
    Iskander-M has an increased likelihood of overcoming the enemy’s missile defense due to the unique stealth technology. The missile maneuvers with high overloads and flies along an unpredictable trajectory for the enemy.

    Here is the answer to the US AUG. Withdraw from the INF treaty, increase the Iskander's range and launch aircraft with powerful radar along the coast. good As AUGNITS, it will respond!
    1. Associate Professor
      Associate Professor 14 November 2013 17: 42
      +5
      Quote: avg
      Withdraw from the INF Treaty, increase the range of Iskander

      Everything seems to be going this way: the chassis of the new complex with RSD:

      Quote: avg
      launch along the coast planes with powerful radar.

      Well, the advancement of the AUG is clearly visible from the satellites. Aircraft will need to be lifted only in an endangered period
      1. avg
        avg 14 November 2013 17: 59
        +2
        If there is a war with mattress mats, then the satellites will be the first to come to the "mutual kirdyk".
        1. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 14 November 2013 18: 02
          +1
          Quote: avg
          If there is a war with mattress mats, then the satellites will be the first to come to the "mutual kirdyk".

          Then it will be a signal for the rise of the aircraft.
        2. clidon
          clidon 14 November 2013 20: 26
          +1
          If there is such a war, then it will not be up to AUG ... However, the capabilities of satellites, too, should not be overestimated.
      2. clidon
        clidon 14 November 2013 20: 24
        +1
        Well, the advancement of the AUG is clearly visible from the satellites.

        Which satellites? And since when, and even fine.
        1. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 14 November 2013 21: 05
          +1
          Quote: clidon
          Which satellites? And since when, and even fine.

          From space exploration satellites that are yet to be launched, as well as creating ballistic anti-ship missiles
          1. clidon
            clidon 14 November 2013 21: 31
            +1
            Which have yet to be developed.
      3. patsantre
        patsantre 14 November 2013 23: 06
        0
        AUG "advance" is the most common thing. But tracking their movement by satellites will no longer work.
        1. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 14 November 2013 23: 12
          0
          Quote: patsantre
          AUG "advance" is the most common thing. But tracking their movement by satellites will no longer work.

          Well, when this "most common thing" occurs during the aggravation of relations, then it is necessary to raise the planes
      4. Army1
        Army1 15 November 2013 00: 26
        0
        Quote: Docent
        Quote: avg
        Withdraw from the INF Treaty, increase the range of Iskander

        Everything seems to be going this way: the chassis of the new complex with RSD:

        Quote: avg
        launch along the coast planes with powerful radar.

        Well, the advancement of the AUG is clearly visible from the satellites. Aircraft will need to be lifted only in an endangered period

        Indeed, why would such a chassis
    2. clidon
      clidon 14 November 2013 20: 25
      0
      And how are you going to direct Iskanders to aircraft carriers?
      1. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor 14 November 2013 21: 08
        +1
        Quote: clidon
        And how are you going to direct Iskanders to aircraft carriers?

        And what are the Chinese going to direct the DF-21D?
        1. clidon
          clidon 14 November 2013 21: 31
          +1
          Radar guidance, which no one has ever seen in the eye and effectiveness has not yet been identified. In the USSR, work was carried out, but as a result they didn’t lead to anything positive and began to continue to engage in RCC.
          1. Associate Professor
            Associate Professor 14 November 2013 21: 38
            0
            Quote: clidon
            Radar guidance, which no one has ever seen in the eye and effectiveness has not yet been identified. In the USSR, work was carried out, but as a result they didn’t lead to anything positive and began to continue to engage in RCC.

            But you need to do this. Since then, a lot of time has passed and technology does not stand still.
            1. clidon
              clidon 14 November 2013 21: 50
              0
              Well, it’s not without reason that the Yankees invest so much in theater missile defense.
  • nemec55
    nemec55 14 November 2013 17: 39
    +5
    Ai tsace tsate balm for the soul drinks goodI involuntarily recalled a film of 72 meters when Yanychar in a matugalnik gave an American speech
    1. Zubr
      Zubr 14 November 2013 21: 49
      +1
      wink And the beacon was OUR .. yes lol And speech, yes, just music .. drinks
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  • pensioner
    pensioner 14 November 2013 18: 30
    +7
    Well done !!! An acquaintance of mine (he himself did not work there, but a rocket engineer, honored, deceased ...) told me the following story: somehow, in the mid-90s, NPK KBM received a parcel from America. And not just from America, but from the American center, where such missiles are made. So: the parcel contained a plastic copy of Oka, and it was made intentionally roughly. Thus, the Americans hinted to KBM that everything: there were only memories of past glory ... But in the end: after a while, the Iskander turned out ... After that story for me personally, Iskander is not just a rocket system_ - it is a symbol of rebirth.
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 14 November 2013 19: 36
      +5
      The revival of "Oka" in the guise of "Iskander" is very pleasing. As I learned about it back in 2008, I was just delighted. In the USSR, at least 50 billion rubles were spent in the development and introduction into production of "Oka". rubles, and Gorbachev, with a light treacherous hand, scrapped everything to please amers. Although "Oka" did not fall under any international obligations to reduce weapons. It was very disappointing then.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 November 2013 19: 24
    +1
    Quote: retired
    Well done !!! An acquaintance of mine (he himself did not work there, but a rocket engineer, honored, deceased ...) told me the following story: somehow, in the mid-90s, NPK KBM received a parcel from America. And not just from America, but from the American center, where such missiles are made. So: the parcel contained a plastic copy of Oka, and it was made intentionally roughly. Thus, the Americans hinted to KBM that everything: there were only memories of past glory ... But in the end: after a while, the Iskander turned out ... After that story for me personally, Iskander is not just a rocket system_ - it is a symbol of rebirth.

    I agree ! But the thought is gnawing that all this (the foundation) was laid back under the USSR ... Where is the fundamental research that looks into the future for 20-30 years .. Where are the new developments? they are not (at least real) .. We are all on our nuclear weapons .. I'm a little emotional! But I think that something is not right in our military-industrial complex .. Finances are invested and "the wheels are turning" .. Maybe I'm not right, just this feeling ..
    1. Associate Professor
      Associate Professor 14 November 2013 19: 32
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I agree ! But the thought is gnawing that all this (the foundation) was laid back under the USSR ... Where is the fundamental research that looks into the future for 20-30 years .. Where are the new developments? they are not (at least real) .. We are all on our nuclear weapons .. I'm a little emotional! But I think that something is not right in our military-industrial complex .. Finances are invested and "the wheels are turning" .. Maybe I'm not right, just this feeling ..

      Strange questions you ask. What should they talk about these developments? If something is being done, then this is being done in secret.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 14 November 2013 20: 18
        0
        Quote: Docent
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I agree ! But the thought is gnawing that all this (the foundation) was laid back under the USSR ... Where is the fundamental research that looks into the future for 20-30 years .. Where are the new developments? they are not (at least real) .. We are all on our nuclear weapons .. I'm a little emotional! But I think that something is not right in our military-industrial complex .. Finances are invested and "the wheels are turning" .. Maybe I'm not right, just this feeling ..

        Strange questions you ask. What should they talk about these developments? If something is being done, then this is being done in secret.

        I don’t require stories and technical parameters .. You obviously didn’t understand me .. You don’t need to scare me with secrets .. They love to keep everything secret in Russia .. (when they don’t want to work .. or they steal) I'm not talking about the USSR ..! I love cheers to scream, but lately I don’t want to .. You understand me, I hope ..
        1. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 14 November 2013 20: 30
          +2
          Quote: MIKHAN
          No need to scare me with secrets

          Dear, who scares? This is an obvious thing for me at least. Already if some developments are underway, then at the level of the fundamental and research work, a backlog is being created, since the Soviet backlog is already exhausted. From what is well known, it’s that work is underway on fifth-generation submarines of all types, on the next, sixth generation fighter, on weapons for new individuals. principles and robotics, hypersound. To create all this, the Soviet backlog is clearly not enough.
  • SEM
    SEM 14 November 2013 21: 16
    +1
    GOOD NEWS ANYWHERE OF THE DAY AND NIGHT WILL STAY GOOD)))
  • navodchik
    navodchik 14 November 2013 21: 33
    +1
    Hooray!!! Our change has come. Best wishes to the Missile Warriors.
  • 31231
    31231 14 November 2013 21: 42
    0
    KBMovets well done. Professionalism is not lost.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 November 2013 21: 54
    +1
    The Strategic Missile Forces have a good slogan .. "NO ONE AFTER US.!" God forbid, of course .. This is an extreme case, as they say, but I hope that it will be so if that ..)))
  • smel
    smel 14 November 2013 22: 06
    0
    I did not deliberately go to the beginning. There is a lot to tell. And this will surprise all the posting. There’s no need. Robyats !!! Ehhhhh !!! Sign. Familiar with this thing. I will only remember the biblical: "Blessed is he who believes." Oka and Tochka - it's not a shame for them ... As, however, for the 56th complex. Temp "C" .http: //www.snariad.ru/wp-content/gallery/grntemp-s/temp-s_2 .jpg
    to President Putin in the 2007, Minister of Defense Ivanov sang about Iskander. And now, the 13 year ends in the yard ... How many of them have succeeded Presidents and ministers !!!! And the result ??? I'm an optimist by nature. I am sure that they will someday be shot for these matters.
    1. Associate Professor
      Associate Professor 14 November 2013 22: 23
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      Quote: smel
      Minister of Defense Ivanov sang about Putin in 2007. And now the 13th year already ends in the yard ... How many of them have changed for Presidents and ministers !!!! And the result ???

      And what do you want to say? Not quite clear. What did Ivanov sing?
  • pensioner
    pensioner 14 November 2013 22: 25
    +1
    Yes. Surely the guys appear here with KBM. Confirm or refute my story. Although ... I believed Vladimir Fedorovich Dremin more than myself. Still, he was awarded the Korolev medal (essen gold) ...
    1. alone
      alone 14 November 2013 22: 37
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      Quote: retired
      I believed Vladimir Fedorovich Dremin more than myself. Still, he was awarded the Korolev medal (essen gold) ...

      Of course I respect Vladimir Fedorovich Dremin and I can’t say anything bad about him. And as for the award, I’ll say this. Such a person was given the Korolev medal (gold)

      but Gorbach’s order of St. Andrew the First-Called. I think the reputation of the order has suffered greatly from this.
      1. AVV
        AVV 14 November 2013 23: 53
        +1
        It was not necessary to give him an order, but to drive him to Europe, with a broom from needles, to the very Berlin wall !!!
  • voliador
    voliador 14 November 2013 22: 46
    +1
    So clearly other systems, especially for the Navy, would be handed over.
  • PPP
    PPP 15 November 2013 10: 09
    +2
    YuVO is a priority in equipping new weapons. The main threat to Russia is now from the south.
  • yan
    yan 15 November 2013 11: 07
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    I liked the presentation of the material, clearly precisely without the subjunctive moods and future tense, thanks to the author
  • Yoke
    Yoke 15 November 2013 15: 16
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    compatriots will not fail)