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For dollars get into stockings?

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The outgoing week in Russia was rich in economic events. Several important points at once are worth highlighting especially how to single out and react to these economic moments from the business community, government agencies and a number of media.


First news due to the fact that the State Duma again attended to the fate of the dollar in Russia. She took care, it should be noted immediately, not all. Last Wednesday, a deputy from the LDPR faction Mikhail Degtyarev introduced a bill to the lower house of parliament, according to which the circulation and custody of the dollar should be prohibited in Russia. This, by the way, is by no means the first such proposal by Degtyarev. His idea of ​​a liberal Democrat, who at one time managed to change the colors of "United Russia" to the colors of the Liberal Democratic Party, explains that dollars are the quote of "candy wrappers" that are not secured by currency and are also printed by a private structure. According to Mikhail Degtyarev, the dollar’s ​​collapse threatens the world as early as 2017, if the US government debt grows at the current pace.

Interestingly, the deputy Degtyaryov calls urgently to start getting rid of the dollar of ordinary Russian citizens, and only then the state authorities will have to attend to this “deliverance” ... Strange sequence ... Let's say the words expressed by the liberal democrat Michael Degtyarev:

Why do we keep savings in dollars? Why do we sell oil for dollars? Start to abandon the dirty green paper need people, and then the leadership of the country. People must refuse to trust the dollar first.


For dollars get into stockings?


An interesting judgment of the deputy. In style:

“Why do we buy foreign cars (from deputy Degtyarev, by the way, there are several of them - Japanese and German, judging by the publication in the Samara Review and his own declaration)? Start to abandon cars need people, and then the country's leadership. People should refuse to trust foreign cars first "...

The same reinforced logic ...

On the one hand, it seems that everything is true about the present essence of the Degtyaryov dollar - it is a candy wrapper (dollar). But on the other hand, such an idea frankly gives the most ordinary populism. What does it mean “the people should refuse to trust the dollar first”? Forgets, perhaps, Mikhail Vladimirovich that among our people far from all are candidates of economic sciences and representatives of big business. To start taking some financial steps only because a single deputy decided so, hardly anyone will meet, even if he has these same candy wrappers. In any case (again, if a person has dollars in a bank account or in stocking), a person will wait for how others will behave and, most importantly, how the state will behave. And it is only at the everyday level.

But what about the immediate economic component? The fact is that many in Russia would long ago have trusted only their own currency, but, seeing that the state itself stores hundreds of billions precisely “in candy wrappers,” they are not inclined to rush. There is no way to do without a government example, otherwise the ban on the storage and circulation of dollars will not just be one-sided, but also hit the same population, which, apparently, immensely baked by deputy Degtyaryov. How to hit? The example is simple: if one assumes that ordinary citizens of Russia who have no dollar savings, imbued with the essence of Mikhail Degtyarev's proposal, will carry them into banks to exchange them for rubles (or transfer them from a dollar account to a ruble), this may affect the rate of the American currency. In relation to the ruble, the dollar is more likely to start declining. Where are the guarantees that ordinary average speculators will not take advantage of this, who will immediately start buying up the depreciating dollar, brewing the real intrigue around the exchange rate? And in the end, where are the guarantees that the state itself will convert the dollar part of multi-billion funds into rubles? Who will give such a guarantee: maybe, personally, Mikhail Degtyarev ...

One might have thought that the bill spelled out all the steps to identify those who leave the savings in dollars or even begin to buy those dollars. However, there is nothing like this in the document. It does not even spell out the search mechanism for dollars "in stockings" and on the bank accounts of Russian citizens ... But the rules for withdrawal of candy wrappers are prescribed, and these rules are enchanting ... Competent authorities, having revealed the presence of dollars from some "forgotten" citizen, should be bucks ”to withdraw, and within 30 day from the moment of withdrawal of dollars to return to the citizen the amount in rubles. Here's how ...

After this provision of the bill, even the person who was already going to carry dollars to the nearest exchange office has the right to say: why should I have to lose personal time if the police or the tax authorities themselves can exchange my money for rubles - let them work. In this regard, there is a picture of how police walk around the apartments, rummaging in cabinets and suitcases in search of "candy wrappers", and if they find them, they bring them to the bank to exchange them for rubles and carry them back to the people ... searches - so what? ..

It would seem that there is no need to search anyone, to walk in apartments too, but it is necessary, if it is proposed to prohibit the storage of a dollar, to oblige banks not to exchange dollars for rubles. But the bill is limping here too. It turns out that the deputy Degtyarev still leaves a circle of people the opportunity to exchange rubles for dollars, and somewhere in there to pay these dollars. The most interesting thing is that the circle is closed ... And in this circle, quote: "residents making a legitimate purchase of dollars through banks." What does “legal” mean? That is, it turns out that after all there are the first among equals, and it will be possible for them to use dollars.

In addition to these "residents", other individuals have been identified who can freely exchange rubles for dollars: foreigners in Russia and Russian tourists. Does it not turn out that a special class of citizens will appear in Russia: such “tourists-speculators” (“tourist speculators are a face amoral” ...), who for a certain fee will be able to solve any ruble-dollar problem of other citizens ...

In general, the idea of ​​the deputy Degtyaryov, of course, is interesting, but it is so crude that until now the whole rush of this idea is close to populism and the PR of the deputy himself.

Estimating the initiative of the liberal democrat Degtyaryov, State Duma Speaker Sergey Naryshkin expressed his laconic opinion:

I would not support such an initiative.


Something like this…

Another economic theme of the week: a sharp collapse of shares of the mining and metallurgical company Mechel. On Wednesday, the company's shares fell by more than 40%. The main reason is called the following: they could not agree with creditors, to whom Mechel owed more than 9 billions of dollars. This lack of agreement led to the fact that one of the creditors began to get rid of the stake belonging to him, provoking an avalanche-like “dump”, caught up by speculators. After such a drop in prices, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation stopped accepting Mechel bonds as security. In a number of media outlets, articles immediately appeared that it was, they say, almost the beginning of the end of the Russian economy, that investors would never again invest in the Russian metallurgy, that the ruble would begin to subside. However, the very next day after the “Mechelovsky” collapse, the shares of the same company only in the first hour of trading were expecting an almost 15% rise. It was not possible to fully restore the position, but it became clear that the rumors "about death were too exaggerated." It also became clear that speculation played a central role in the Russian financial market.

This is all about the question that “first the people must express mistrust,” and then “all the others” ...

Perhaps, it’s still starting with the servants of the people, especially since most Russians don’t bother them at all (according to Forbes, no more than 8,5% of citizens have accounts in the US currency, Russian financial publications cite other figures 7%). And in general, is it not time, instead of populism about artificially "banning" foreign currencies, to engage in the real development of the national currency (economy) - through industry, through the opening of new industries, through investing not in foreign "candy wrappers", but in health, education and employment fellow citizens ...
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  1. predator.3
    predator.3 15 November 2013 07: 56
    38
    That was the currency!
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 15 November 2013 08: 13
      +6
      Oh, little hearts, my little hearts ... There was concrete money!
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 November 2013 09: 09
      18
      My grandmother gave me my birthday (still small). For a lifetime I remember.
      1. Canep
        Canep 15 November 2013 09: 28
        +8
        Grandma spoiled you, then it was a lot of money-oh-ho-ho! Then, when they decided that the dollar was everything, and the ruble was wooden, this quarter turned into waste paper.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 15 November 2013 09: 35
          +7
          Yeah, a couple of notes still lie at home.
          Grandma spoiled you

          Well, they are grandmothers. Then, I transferred 1000 rubles to a book in favor of the Gaidar-Chubais society. Robbed.
          And grandmother, yes, pampered.
      2. sancho
        sancho 15 November 2013 10: 33
        14
        Oh! Yeah!

        Guys are still flowers before the start of something even worse.

        Ministry of Housing and Utilities has been created I, in general, am still in shock ... According to the statements of "this" minister, now we will pay extra. housing overhaul fees! I just sit and be quiet oh ... yu!
        Yes, no ... I understand that everything that used to be in the funds is already asleep ... whether it is necessary to replenish the funds. Here DAM, announced that it will be necessary to pay for housing until the 10th day of the month, i.e. in front! Not having received more services .... how is it?
        I put everything in a heap, and all sorts of statements of individual liberalists (minors), you sit and think ...! Where else to put money, to whom to give, give?
        AND! Take and swap laughing , and even better to give ... wassat
        1. gsg955
          gsg955 15 November 2013 11: 36
          +7
          DAM it is famous x ... confused
        2. atalef
          atalef 15 November 2013 22: 56
          +2
          Guys are still flowers before the start of something even worse

          The same is one of the fighters against the dollar and world capitalism, which has the highest oil reserves in the world, and the people in poverty are worse every year and everyone is guilty of it, but it’s clear from his ears that it’s impossible to tweak the laws of the economy to personal revolutionary views
          "They are barbarians, capitalist parasites! We already have 100 bourgeois behind bars," Reuters quoted the President as saying on November 15. In order to suppress the desire of speculators to cash in on the people, Maduro instructed the government to prepare a law limiting the profitability of Venezuelan businesses in the range of 15% to 30%.
          Recall that in late October, the President of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, announced the creation of the Office to achieve the greatest national happiness. The department is called upon to provide all the necessary for the elderly, children, the homeless and the disabled. And in the spring, the Maduro government promised to buy 50 million rolls of toilet paper abroad in order to repay the discontent of the country's inhabitants with a growing shortage of essential goods.

          The shortage of basic necessities and basic foodstuffs (milk, eggs, beef, chicken) has long been a problem for Venezuela. The authorities attribute the shortage to the machinations of the opposition, which allegedly "seizes" food and goods and destroys them in order to overthrow the government. Opponents of the government and representatives of the business community say that this is the result of the state's short-sighted policy to control prices.

          Last April in Venezuela came into force "Law on Fair Prices", which is aimed at combating speculation. In accordance with this legal norm, a special state body was created in the country to control the prices of essential goods, as well as a special inspectorate, whose task is to strictly monitor compliance with the provisions of the new law.

          Nicolas Maduro's predecessor, the late President Hugo Chávez then explained that "the bourgeoisie needs a free market to rob the people, rob the workers and thus enrich themselves," and therefore Venezuela does not need any free market.
          http://www.newsru.com/world/15nov2013/bourgeois.html


          Only (if in Russia bucks are banned, the people will immediately rush to buy them, although why go so far - the law on smoking has been adopted, let's see
        3. timer
          timer 16 November 2013 22: 26
          0
          Yes, it was scary from the Liberal Democratic Party, in my opinion, I myself do not understand what he said. Little else. We will be condescending to him and will not take him seriously. And what about the next "brilliant thought" of IDIOT Dimon about prepayment for gas, this liberal is not knows how to distinguish himself, so that he is at least somehow perceived, so he carries all the crap on TV.
    3. gsg955
      gsg955 15 November 2013 11: 34
      0
      His eyes were not to be torn off.
    4. Letterksi
      Letterksi 16 November 2013 10: 00
      +1
      Recently I read the book "Paper Ruble" 1895. Sharapova (Talitsky). After this book, I can no longer hear about economics from the lips of modern politicians and pseudo-economists. It turns out that in the 19th century the printed Russian ruble was stronger than its silver or gold "equivalent". Silver and gold money turned into a commodity and depreciated against the background of the printed one. This shows that the Western approaches imposed on Russia have never fully suited Russia. We have our own path that is taken away from us
    5. lav566
      lav566 16 November 2013 11: 17
      0
      What kind of "currency" was it if after 1986 there was almost nothing for it?
      can not buy?
    6. T-73
      T-73 16 November 2013 16: 59
      0
      it was not currency - it was - STRENGTH
  2. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 15 November 2013 08: 01
    +4
    Last Wednesday, MP from the LDPR faction Mikhail Degtyarev introduced a bill in the lower house of parliament, according to which the circulation and storage of the dollar should be prohibited in Russia.

    LDPRovets, they have a PR main policy. Recently, they and Zhirinovsky noted a chatter about the Caucasus.
    1. Canep
      Canep 15 November 2013 08: 22
      10
      I think the dollar should be abandoned. The author is wrong in many ways (to see a bag of this waste paper under his bed under his bed). The deputy suggests giving up the dollar not only to ordinary people but to the entire business. And this, as we know, is the strategic line of modern Russian politics (BRICS). How far do I see Russia’s economic relations mainly with Europe (Euro) and with China (Yuan) as well as with Japan (Yen) and Korea (Won) why use the US dollar in the calculations? For good, Gazprom needs to trade gas for RUBLES and determine the price in contracts in RUB. The same goes for Rosneft. Then the Ruble will become a highly quoted currency, because Then the ruble will be traded on exchanges in Europe. Europe will have to buy rubles in advance, and then only gas, and not vice versa, buy gas for its own, and then Gazprom will have to buy rubles.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 15 November 2013 10: 16
        +5
        Banking margin will remain in our country, and not in the United States. And since their financial sector accounts for a large% of GDP, they are not very pleased with this development.

        PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
        1. Pancho
          Pancho 15 November 2013 20: 27
          +2
          Serdyukov was seated in the chair of the general director of the center of mechanical engineering. Here it is. Until those in power who are now, do not wait for good.
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      3. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 15 November 2013 10: 33
        +4
        In the article, the conversation is not about what should not be refused, but about the fact that some people think it is necessary to start with the people (issue the law) up to force methods.
        . The people should refuse to trust the dollar first.

        Quote: Canep
        I think the dollar should be abandoned.

        Very many people think so. That's when the state ceases to store and trade in dollars and for dollars then citizens, in many cases, will not need to keep them.
        1. APES
          APES 15 November 2013 11: 39
          +2
          Quote: Yuri Ya.
          That's when the state stops


          You can only convince someone of something by your own example.
          1. Yuri Y.
            Yuri Y. 15 November 2013 13: 30
            +1
            You can convince with your example at the best your neighbor laughing ... The state is not just anyone. And this "fruit" instead of solving this issue at the state level in foreign trade and politics, with its own party, is being promoted to citizens.
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      4. Volodin
        15 November 2013 12: 32
        +9
        Sergey, a bag of dollars, unfortunately or fortunately, the author does not have. And the speech in the article is not about giving up the dollar as such, but about the essence of the proposals. And the essence - terry populism. Carefully read the article material.
      5. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 15 November 2013 19: 58
        0
        Quote: Canep
        Europe will have to buy rubles in advance

        In the calculations, the money is transferred by non-cash, as it were, but on paper, they are in the vault. Germany buys 1 rubles for 32 dollar. The dollar goes to the Bank of Russia account or VEB there. Germany then transfers these 32 rubles to Gazprom per cubic meter of gas. As a result, Germany remains with gas, Gazprom with the ruble, and VEB with the dollar. But Germany still needs to buy a dollar to buy the ruble .... Or start printing euros, if you sell for them. In any case, the winner is the one who prints the euro or dollar
  3. 10kAzAk01
    10kAzAk01 15 November 2013 08: 07
    11
    .... That was the reason for its value!
  4. mak210
    mak210 15 November 2013 08: 13
    13
    Rave. And this young man receives 250 thousand rubles. per month. Cool settled.
    1. igordok
      igordok 15 November 2013 08: 25
      13
      Quote: mak210
      Rave. And this young man receives 250 thousand rubles. per month. Cool settled.

      And schnitzel for 20 rub.



      Upoo shho FSO Russia.
      The Office of Food Supply and Services of the Household Services of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 15 November 2013 10: 18
        +3
        Is this the real value of the products? Where do the rest 100r go, which I pay for schnitzel?

        PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 15 November 2013 08: 31
      +8
      Quote: mak210
      Brad.

      One "deputy" and the governor of Nizhny Novgorod has already sang a similar "song" or rather mold - Nemtsov, where and whose interests he defends, I think it is not worth reminding.
    3. Dmitry_2013
      Dmitry_2013 15 November 2013 09: 24
      +6
      Judging by the photo, schoolchildren will soon begin to take students to the State Duma at such a pace ... What are these youths going to do for them?
    4. Denis
      Denis 15 November 2013 10: 10
      +1
      Quote: mak210
      Rave. And this young man receives 250 thousand rubles. per month. Cool settled.

      But now everyone knows about him ..
    5. APES
      APES 15 November 2013 11: 38
      0
      Quote: mak210
      receives 250 thousand rubles per month


      it’s at the exchange rate, and so, sort of like in euros and dollars, 50% by 50%
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  5. atalef
    atalef 15 November 2013 08: 15
    12
    Of course, we can cancel dollars and even release a globe with a white spot instead of America, just what will it change?
    Of course, the Liberal Democratic Party in its repertoire, only if he had proposed to reduce the salaries of the deputies it would have been more correct, but only who wants to refuse 250 tons, it’s easier to make money on the bucks
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  7. makarov
    makarov 15 November 2013 08: 21
    +2
    Just unreasonable escalation of the situation is not conditioned by anything. Guy ts "beats show-off". And in the muddy water, someone will try to lightly "chop that same green cabbage"
  8. Vorchun
    Vorchun 15 November 2013 08: 22
    +5
    Our "hard" currency is
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 15 November 2013 09: 16
      +5
      Quote: Vorchun
      Our "hard" currency is


      The currency is liquid, the rate is solid!
  9. Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 15 November 2013 08: 22
    +8
    The people, and then the leadership of the country, need to start abandoning foreign cars. The people must refuse to trust foreign cars first "...

    Firstly: Does this also apply to foreign cars of the Russian assembly?
    Secondly: Russian official in a domestic car belay ? As one famous horse used to say: "Don't tell my hooves!"
  10. Asgard
    Asgard 15 November 2013 08: 25
    11
    Soviet rubles were real money and fed the economy .... BEYOND THE IRON Curtain (it was the right decision ...
    But selling oil for dollars, this decision led to the collapse of the USSR ....

    The draft law proposed by the Samara deputy (very JUNIOR))) talks about criminalizing society, that is, they’ll search you and you will find dollars in jail, punishments, will be DISPLAINED ... This implies the DRAFT LAW))) )))

    And not the creation of conditions for the refusal of the economy and society from dollar dependence and the transfer of funds to the REAL ECONOMY, after all, rubles (NOW)) is a derivative of the dollar .....

    Medvedev offered to pay for the housing and communal services population, in advance ....
    That is, the old women should come to "Fast Money" to take a loan at 178% and pay for the services of the "thieves" and then, with a small pension, give money to the merchants ... which will automatically make payments for apartments INCREDIBLE, EVEN FOR WORKERS)))))

    FORGIVE ME THE MODERATORS))))
    MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 15 November 2013 10: 24
      +4
      Quote: Asgard
      Medvedev offered to pay for the housing and communal services population, in advance ....
      That is, the old women should come to "Fast Money" to take a loan at 178% and pay for the services of the "thieves" and then, with a small pension, give money to the merchants ... which will automatically make payments for apartments INCREDIBLE, EVEN FOR WORKERS)))))


      Due to the winter coefficients, the pipe-laying season is open in my city, so they also offer to pay me in advance.

      I can also suggest that in the republics of the North Caucasus, a pilot project is being carried out. They also have a communal service much less than in the central regions and the largest debts and more than 100% vote for the Most Holy.

      PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
  11. Vasily Ivanov
    Vasily Ivanov 15 November 2013 08: 30
    +4
    yeah, all about the people think how to remove the last. Now it’s clear that the ruble has already depreciated as much as the dollar.
    "According to Forbes, no more than 8,5% of citizens have accounts in US currency in Russia, Russian financial publications give other figures - about 7%)".
    I'm trying to save on vacation, I have $ 700. question - do I belong to these 7%?)))
  12. optimist
    optimist 15 November 2013 08: 35
    +4
    Everything is very clear: "August 1998" -2 is on the way. So we either spend rubles quickly, or buy bucks !!! laughing
  13. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 15 November 2013 08: 43
    14
    And to me FSUs! I have a cat that cried. What are the dollars? request
  14. drop
    drop 15 November 2013 08: 45
    +8
    I looked at the face of this deputy. Where did he get such deep knowledge that he could make proposals from the rostrum of the Duma that could ruin the economy. In his appearance, he has no knowledge. This person has no education and work experience. My advice is don't do anything stupid. Our currency is not worth anything on the world market, the calculations are carried out in US dollars. Some economists have already staged a collapse in Russia in 1990; he wants to repeat it.
    1. Fin
      Fin 15 November 2013 09: 43
      +6
      Quote: Drop
      Where did he get such deep knowledge

      read the biography:
      Born in 1981. The son of doctors. In 1998 he graduated with honors from the Samara International Aerospace Lyceum, in 2004 he graduated from the Samara State Aerospace University, faculty of aircraft engines (specialty “engineer”), and also received a specialty “manager” in the same university at the faculty of economics and management in 2005 . In 2004 he became a graduate student of the Department of Automatic Systems of Power Plants of SSAU,

      Not a single mention of where he worked, only in language. Another "great economist". It would be better if the engines were engaged, maybe there was some sense.
  15. Nitarius
    Nitarius 15 November 2013 08: 52
    +6
    We must not give up nego!
    and it will prohibit payments for our resources in US dollars at state levels! ONLY RUBLES or GOLD!
    FUCK HERE IN RUSSIA THEIR DOLLARS!
    PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE The dollar and the ruble! the most reliable is Potato in the cellar, with pickles and jams and NO Credits!
    to live!
    Papers are erected into value that HOOT IS NOT NEEDED TO ANYONE!
  16. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 15 November 2013 08: 53
    +7
    Well, exactly, as in that saying: "Go ahead, friends, and I follow you! I will stand with my chest, behind your backs!"
  17. Turkestan
    Turkestan 15 November 2013 08: 55
    +1
    Dektaryov is right. He is right to gradually phase out the turnover of the Dollar. Well, indeed, the Dollar is not worth anything and the whole world is engaged in economic self-deception supporting a worthless piece of paper. And Russia needs to introduce the GOLDEN CHERVONETS as it was under the tsarist regime. THIS IS MONEY FOR ALL TIMES.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 15 November 2013 12: 39
      +5
      Dear, I ask you, don’t be fooled by the statements of this Yuri Venediktovich. Gradually stop the turnover of the dollar is necessary to increase the liquidity of the Russian ruble - for this thought, the now famous leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, why not come across?
      1. Turkestan
        Turkestan 15 November 2013 18: 59
        0
        I agree. But one of the options for enhancing the liquidity of the Russian ruble may be to bring into circulation the GOLDEN CHERVONETS Ruble or a penny. A means of payment that has a real international price. In not every conceit, once such means of payment are put into circulation, it is not necessary only in Russia. The impact of the dollar on the economy and domestic turnover will disappear. Here is one of the elements of achieving dollar independence
  18. Grbear
    Grbear 15 November 2013 09: 02
    +8
    In my opinion, the popular opinion, the initiators of such ideas should be awarded the honorary title "NEDO ..." and kicked out of the Duma. Duma - think from the word, and not PR. And "for the market" must be answered hi .
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 15 November 2013 09: 17
      +8
      But I proudly refused the dollars! For no one has offered me them for a long time laughing
  19. vladim.gorbunow
    vladim.gorbunow 15 November 2013 09: 30
    +2
    But everything is simple. The company restored the production (in the USSR were made) of precession bearings, set up the production of unique optoelectronics, machine tools, devices, etc. They brought them into salable condition, protected by patents. Lined up from the sharks of world business, give us faster, here you have bags of currency. From these bags and pay workers foreign exchange bonuses. And Gazprom and the seller of round timber to give foreign currency earnings in their hands, if they prove that without them they would die, they will miss the technology jump. Indeed, in their product of natural rent 3/4. Introduce the principle - the currency is only for sale for the currency. It is clear that the people's choice with a foreign currency account and real estate abroad, at least - an agent of influence. And most likely just a vulgar agent. And the so-called ordinary people should be thrust into their heads - you use currency, steal your children, your old age. I agree that this is not easy to do. harder. than fly to Mars. But there is no choice.
  20. Sterlya
    Sterlya 15 November 2013 09: 31
    +5
    the most valuable thing for amers is the dollar. the most exported product. the rest is all an empty phrase. and their economy is a myth. look at your home if you have a lot of American things and understand. I have nothing American, strange ...
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 15 November 2013 10: 32
      0
      "The most valuable thing for Amers is the dollar. The most exported commodity. The rest is just an empty phrase. And their economy is a myth. Look at home, how many American things you have and you will understand. I have nothing American, it's strange ..."

      In fact, the most valuable thing for a financier is trust (Dreiser Theodore.: Financier), and the US financier is% on 40. And little by little the USA loses this trust, and with it the dollar and at least half of the GDP disappear. Only whether it will be in this century or the next I do not know.

      PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
  21. rekrut
    rekrut 15 November 2013 09: 43
    +5
    Let him first live on the salary of a nurse.
  22. Boris55
    Boris55 15 November 2013 09: 44
    +4
    What is the difference between a felled tree in Russia and the USA?

    In the papers. In papers paid for the same work. It should not be. Same work should be paid equally, regardless of place of work, that in America, that in Russia, that in Moscow, that in Karaganda.
    (say prices in Moscow are higher than in Karaganda, and why so? the higher the concentration of potential buyers in one place - the cheaper the goods should be, the turnover is higher ...)

    All other conversations about "whose piece of paper is more beautiful" is a dismantling of "godfathers" for spheres of influence, diverting the attention of citizens from the true reasons for an unfair life order, which allows villains to continue to parasitize on the labor of peoples.
    1. atalef
      atalef 15 November 2013 17: 09
      +3
      Quote: Boris55
      The same work should be paid equally, regardless of the place of work, in America, in Russia, in Moscow, in Karaganda.

      A small question, let's say in Karaganda there is just a sea of ​​welders and people are ready to work for 5 tons (conditionally) - why? Because there are a lot of them in Karaganda, and there is not much work, and I (as an employer, pay 5t - because I think that this is real income (for Karaganda), but one of the most intelligent Karaganda welders rushed to Moscow - 10 employers came running to him (since there are no welders in Moscow, there are a lot of managers for that, and they tell you 5 tons (like in Karaganda), go brew, but there are 10 of them (employers), and the welder is one. and everyone wants him , take it and demand (as an example) 20t - you won’t take it? What about the fact that they should pay the same way? Like with Karaganda, where the employer dictates the price (in one case) and Moscow, where it can spread the welded fingers?
      Therefore, without fairy tales, it does not work the same everywhere and in all professions, demand is supply, the standard of living of the regions, etc. hi

      Quote: Boris55
      (Tell prices in Moscow higher than in Karaganda, and why so?

      Because the people have more money and a seller ... well, in general, see the first paragraph. Demand-offer is called
      1. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 16 November 2013 17: 09
        0
        Market i.e. - But what about the GOSPLAN under the USSR?
  23. pahom54
    pahom54 15 November 2013 09: 45
    +8
    Let no one think that I am defending the dollar (I don’t have one and never will have), but this talk of some deputy causes strange insinuations ...
    Throughout his whole life - and this is still 60 years old - he learned from experience that any (ANY !!!) attempts by the legislative branch in the field of any restrictions or innovations in the country's monetary circulation primarily hit the pocket of the common people. So now, still not understanding the deep essence of the statement of this deputy, I can only say one thing: again, the next Namahalovo is being prepared, again a few will be living off of the poor majority. I don’t know how this mechanism will work, but I’m sure of its harmfulness.
    In Soviet times, the bucks also did not have the right to go, and their official rate was somewhere around 96 or 98 kopecks, I don’t remember, but there were currency transactions, and the same bucks were bought up by the population not from 96 kopecks, but from 3 to 5 rubles. So now - the dollar is supposedly officially banned, but in fact, its black exchange rate will jump as a result of the ban, the bank knows how much it will, and they will try to pop goods in accordance with the black dollar exchange rate. Why not live?
    In general, despite the crisis situation in the USA, the deputy’s proposal looks like a bad artistic whistle (not thought out to the same thing).
    You can only get rid of the dollar by creating a certain union of economically more or less strong states, introducing some kind of joint currency - this step would be more or less understandable. That is, untying the dollar should begin not from the side of the poor people, but from, first of all, the state and business.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 15 November 2013 15: 42
      +2
      Quote: pahom54
      One can get rid of the dollar only by creating a certain union of more or less economically strong states

      Quite right: only as a result of the formation of a union of states capable of providing itself with a full list of 90 percent technology and goods, will it be possible to abandon the dollar.
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  25. os9165
    os9165 15 November 2013 10: 00
    +6
    This speaks only about one thing - people cannot be relaxed. Wait soon they will throw, or the dollar will rise in price or inflation will gallop.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 15 November 2013 10: 35
      +2
      Quote: os9165
      This speaks only about one thing - people cannot be relaxed. Wait soon they will throw, or the dollar will rise in price or inflation will gallop.


      One will lead to another.

      PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 15 November 2013 10: 50
        +1
        Quote: zvereok
        ... when will they put Serdyukov? ...

        One of the first decrees of N.S. Khrushchev was on the jurisdiction of higher cones.
        As far as I remember, no one canceled it, but only the list of untouchables was expanded ... and the "swamp" did not raise such a question, they understand that when they come to power, they will be happy ...
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 15 November 2013 12: 49
          +1
          Quote: Boris55
          One of the first decrees of N.S. Khrushchev was on the jurisdiction of higher cones.
          As far as I remember, no one canceled it, but only the list of untouchables was expanded ... and the "swamp" did not raise such a question, they understand that when they come to power, they will be happy ...


          On the swamp one of the slogans was "Putin the Thief"
  26. tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 15 November 2013 10: 43
    +4
    Quote: predator.3
    That was the currency!

    Dear, please look at the root of the events! This is a cheap measure to distract citizens of the country from actually adopted laws and decrees. Now they’ll slowly lower the brakes on the brakes, slowly make a down payment for housing and communal services, under the guise of a dollar etc.
    1. tverskoi77
      tverskoi77 15 November 2013 15: 33
      0
      in addition, the news of November 15: The ex-Minister of Defense of Russia has been appointed head of the Russian Technologies Research and Development Center for Mechanical Engineering.
      Продолжение следует ...
  27. alebor
    alebor 15 November 2013 10: 51
    +3
    Before adopting a law for the whole country, it needs to be tested in some particular region. It would be nice to appoint Deputy Degtyarev as this "region", forbidding him to have dollars, and at the same time euros, shekels and other foreign currency, both in cash and in bank accounts.
  28. major071
    major071 15 November 2013 11: 29
    +8
    “Why do we buy foreign cars (from deputy Degtyarev, by the way, there are several of them - Japanese and German, judging by the publication in the Samara Review and his own declaration)? Start to abandon cars need people, and then the country's leadership. People should refuse to trust foreign cars first "...

    If you want to be supported, start with yourself. And so he is just a two-faced anus (pah, janus).
  29. Ascetic
    Ascetic 15 November 2013 11: 41
    +7
    Saddam Hussein was the first to suggest abandoning the dollar as the equivalent of calculating for oil, then Gaddafi proposed to abandon the dollar by replacing it with the "golden dinar." In August of this year, Bashar al-Assad signed a decree banning the use of foreign currency in financial transactions in the republic.
    From now on, payments, commercial transactions and other commercial operations cannot be carried out in foreign currency or precious stones. Sellers who violate the ban may receive a 10-year prison term, reports Reuters with reference to the official Syrian media. In addition to prison, merchants face a serious fine, which is twice the amount of a transaction with prohibited currency.
    . Almost done what Degtyarev offers. And literally in a couple of weeks, everyone knows what has begun, or let's say it threatened to begin. Iran sells oil NOT ONLY FOR DOLLARS, Erdogan began to buy oil from Iran for gold and riots broke out in Turkey ... Therefore, before giving up the dollar, you need to be strong and independent, which we have problems with today. The process The creation of alternative currencies for world trade has long been launched and is in progress. These are both BRICS and TS and bilateral settlements along the lines of China-Russia, Germany-China.
    Germany and China plan to transfer more of their trade to settlements in euros and yuan (this provision is contained in a joint statement following the talks between Angela Merkel and Wen in Beijing
    And therefore, before you completely abandon the dollar, you first need to give the ruble the status of a regional currency, for example, in the TS trade zone, where many countries are striving more and more to see in it an alternative to the WTO and IMF zones based on the dollar standard.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 15 November 2013 12: 46
      -1
      It is said that only this smiled:
      Quote: Ascetic
      ... based on the dollar standard ...

      How can something not permanent be the standard? laughing
    2. kaktus
      kaktus 15 November 2013 16: 02
      0
      And where is Hussein now. Assad, Gaddafi? And in general, besides dollars, there are euros, pounds, yuan, yen .... "They fool our brother!" fool
  30. Horn
    Horn 15 November 2013 12: 07
    +3
    They’ll climb up, but, I'm afraid, in our stockings and wallets ...
  31. T-73
    T-73 15 November 2013 12: 12
    +5
    And start with yourself, state. Degdyaryov! Or are you not the people? Oh yes, the deputy is only a servant of the people, just a man. Man and deputy, balabol and populist. And such ravings are carried by people responsible for the country. Get down to business at last, or have you done everything really necessary and important?
  32. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 15 November 2013 12: 27
    +1
    That would be a gift for the anniversary of the Fed tongue
  33. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 15 November 2013 12: 33
    +3
    How did this child become a deputy. Who dragged him and now blows in his ears what to say.
  34. iConst
    iConst 15 November 2013 12: 39
    +6
    How do such acne salons get into the Duma? In the brains, one loot, and they still rule!
    That's right in "Brother 2": "You choose the thin one - you look, after a year the muzzle does not fit into the TV. And he teaches you how to live!" laughing
  35. spirit
    spirit 15 November 2013 13: 33
    +4
    OOOOO! What kind of people) The change in Zhirik is growing))) is called the Liberal Democratic Party but in deletion it’s not at all L and not D and don’t understand what at all))) the whole essence of the party is to work in contradiction with the government in public, and support this government in the Duma (as I remember now, they supported iPhone together). For me, these are the most real political prostitutes (with Mama headed laughing ) .and not a single word of them personally I, I do not believe negative
    1. atalef
      atalef 15 November 2013 17: 11
      +2
      Quote: spirit
      OOOOO! What kind of people) The change of fat is growing))

      Wolfovich probably selects them only by one guided criteria. the more nonsense you carry, the higher you move up the career ladder.
  36. Bigriver
    Bigriver 15 November 2013 13: 38
    +3
    For a week, the second time I hear about Degtyarev: //
    On Tuesday, he was also discussed by Mamontov's "Special Correspondent".
    Rubbed homosexual infection in Russia.
    Looks like, party members gave him a mandate for publicity of the highest category what
    The actor is bad. He doesn’t look like Zhirik, though .., he is trying.
  37. iConst
    iConst 15 November 2013 13: 46
    +4
    Willy's few questions were drilled.

    But one was a squiggle of squiggles.

    And when this question got into Willy,

    the brush fell from Willian hands.
    V.Mayakovsky

    So for many years I have been tormented by the question - and who and when inspired us all to say that Russia is not a self-sufficient country? In economic terms?

    No, you need to be friends with the whole world!

    Starting with Gorbachev, pah-disgusting, we were told a myth: we are bad, we are evil, we are armed ...
    That's how we become soft and fluffy and fearless - that's when they will welcome us with open arms ... Twenty years have passed. I don’t know how to become fluffy. Of the armaments — we will disarm a little more — only cowards will remain.

    But all the same - bad!

    The second myth is that you need to integrate into integration: those who are not in integration will lose. But integration, for some reason, in one gate!

    I mean that Russia is now integrated as a raw material appendage of the rest of the "community".
    Yes, the market was regulated in the USSR. But there were very reasonable things - planning. Yes Yes!

    Those who are not well versed in the subject will now shout - like they ruined everything ... only the basis of the Japanese "economic miracle" - a significant number of borrowed and improved management methods from ... the USSR!

    The trouble is that "leading and guiding", in addition to strategic planning, which was correct in principle, got into the production process itself.

    It is clear that Europe, Japan, etc., with their virtually zero energy (they are switching to renewable!) And raw materials, somehow needs to integrate with each other. In addition to high technologies and agricultural them (hee-hee) and offer something "nothing"!

    So actually the question itself: why is Russia, which is rich in brains (was) and resources and where it grows from where it is braided in the (almost) tail of civilization?

    I have only one answer - but I will not voice it yet.
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  39. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 November 2013 14: 24
    +2
    I remember at the beginning of the 90s the cry was to make the ruble convertible (only no one knew how and why ..)) Forced to force to refuse, or vice versa to accept .. the meaning will be the same! Russia will become an economically strong and stable country (and it will be necessary), the yuan, the euro, the dollars themselves will collapse .. Russia can always provide its currency with gold diamonds, etc. For our rubles they will still stand in line and fight .. all the Rothschilds Rockefellers .. ( dreamed a little)))
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  41. NORILCHANIN
    NORILCHANIN 15 November 2013 14: 25
    0
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: mak210
    Brad.

    One "deputy" and the governor of Nizhny Novgorod has already sang a similar "song" or rather mold - Nemtsov, where and whose interests he defends, I think it is not worth reminding.

    This mold of the Germans deserves the gallows, but I asked Putin for a license to shoot this scum, until the answer is no.
  42. NORILCHANIN
    NORILCHANIN 15 November 2013 14: 26
    +1
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: mak210
    Brad.

    One "deputy" and the governor of Nizhny Novgorod has already sang a similar "song" or rather mold - Nemtsov, where and whose interests he defends, I think it is not worth reminding.

    This mold of the Germans deserves the gallows, but I asked Putin for a license to shoot this scum, until the answer is no.
  43. NORILCHANIN
    NORILCHANIN 15 November 2013 14: 26
    -1
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: mak210
    Brad.

    One "deputy" and the governor of Nizhny Novgorod has already sang a similar "song" or rather mold - Nemtsov, where and whose interests he defends, I think it is not worth reminding.

    This mold of the Germans deserves the gallows, but I asked Putin for a license to shoot this scum, until the answer is no.
  44. NORILCHANIN
    NORILCHANIN 15 November 2013 14: 27
    -1
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: mak210
    Brad.

    One "deputy" and the governor of Nizhny Novgorod has already sang a similar "song" or rather mold - Nemtsov, where and whose interests he defends, I think it is not worth reminding.

    This mold of the Germans deserves the gallows, but I asked Putin for a license to shoot this scum, until the answer is no.
  45. zasxdcfvv
    zasxdcfvv 15 November 2013 14: 42
    +2
    Of course, you have to give up the buck. Starikov, Kurginyan, Musin, Fedorov, Fursov, Boldyrev for whom are they here, that is, they were crucified on the Internet? Young, not young, what difference does it make if he said the right thing. Should I personally call BB personally? One generally annealed, who refused the buck, they were attacked. Oh, I'm afraid, I'm afraid. Well, they'd write on the echo.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 15 November 2013 15: 02
      +1
      Quote: zasxdcfvv
      ... One generally annealed, who refused the buck, they were attacked ...

      And it is true.

      Kennedy - Killed
      DeGol - killed
      Hussein is hanged
      Gaddafi - torn to pieces

      Mean that what unites them is not love for the evergreen.
  46. sla7a
    sla7a 15 November 2013 17: 01
    0
    The one who annealed is strongly wrong But somehow strange in the Niza I received support (
  47. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 15 November 2013 17: 23
    +1
    Quote: Dmitry_2013
    Judging by the photo, schoolchildren will soon begin to take students to the State Duma at such a pace ... What are these youths going to do for them?

    Duc, "Young Guard of United Russia", "Zhirinovsky's falconry", etc. - "personnel reserve" ... Litter of fish with a rotten head

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%80%D1%91%D0%B2,_%
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    1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

    "... From 2001 to 2003 - chairman of the Samara regional branch of the youth movement" Walking Together "[6]
    In September 2003, Mikhail Degtyarev joined the United Russia party and the Youth Unity movement. [7]
    From September 2003 to December 2005 - deputy head, head of the Samara branch of the youth movement "Youth Unity" of the United Russia party, a member of the youth parliament under the Samara Provincial Duma, and in May 2004 was elected deputy chairman of the youth parliament. [8] [9]
    In 2004, he was elected a deputy of the Samara City Council from the Oktyabrsky District No. 9 as a self-nominee [10].
    In November 2005, LDPR curator for the Volga region and State Duma deputy Yuri Kogan, who had a conflict with the coordinator of the Samara regional branch of the LDPR Viktor Chasovskikh, intensely sought a new candidate for the position of coordinator and proposed this place, in particular, Degtyarev. [11] [12] In December 2005, Degtyarev joined the LDPR; on February 17, the LDPR High Council appointed him and. about. coordinator of the Samara regional branch of the LDPR. He also became an assistant to the deputy of the State Duma V.V. Zhirinovsky. On April 15, 2006, the conference of the Samara Regional Branch of the LDPR approved Degtyarev as coordinator. [13] [14]
    In October 2006, he participated in the election of the head of the Samara city district [15].
    March 11, 2007 was elected to the Samara Provincial Duma from the LDPR. He worked as deputy chairman of the committee on health, demography and social policy; and was also a member of the committee on culture, sports, and youth policy [16].
    On October 23, 2009, he was elected President of the Samara Region Fencing Federation. [17].
    Since 2009, he has been in the personnel reserve of the President of Russia [7].
    On December 4, 2011, he was elected as a deputy of the State Duma of the 6th convocation according to party lists of the LDPR from the Samara Region. He works as deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on Science and High Technology.
    In February 2013, he joined the board of trustees of the Predtechensky Posad complex of the John the Baptist Monastery Metochion [18].


    Speech at the May Day rally of the Liberal Democratic Party
    March 25, 2013 at the XXVI Congress of the Liberal Democratic Party was elected a member of the Supreme Council of the party.
    In May 2013, Mikhail Degtyarev proposed to prohibit the storage and circulation of US dollars on the territory of Russia, having prepared a corresponding bill. He explained the need to ban the US dollars by the concern about the monetary savings of Russians. [19] According to the bill, after two years, the authorized bodies will confiscate it in favor of the federal budget when the American currency is found .... "
  48. Stinger
    Stinger 15 November 2013 21: 31
    +1
    Nimble small. But it will not work like in the Odessa joke.
    Two residents of Odessa met in New York. One says to the other:
    “Yasha, how did you end up here?”
    “Just like you, Dodik.” My boss also sent me to Berdichev with seven million dollars in cash ...
  49. catapractic
    catapractic 15 November 2013 22: 30
    +3
    pederasts-populists got out instead of fighting corruption or the Serdyukovs’s to put it on people's money are engaged in cheap populism-cattle from the State Duma
  50. chief.matros
    chief.matros 16 November 2013 00: 06
    +1
    and yet, sadly, he is right. Even Western analysts themselves predict the collapse of the dollar by 2015! And we really need to start with the population, because in our banks and stockings we have more bucks than the state does! He is trying to warn us about a new round of inflation, but inflation is not only of the ruble, but of the dollar, by the way the latter to a greater extent, otherwise it will turn out to be 1000, it became 100. But this is purely my opinion and I do not impose it on anyone, it will end deposit term in the bank - exchange for rubles. By the way, Western experts and in euros do not recommend storing large amounts.