The reconstruction of the 1941 parade of the year took place on Red Square

November 9, 2013 14

Participants of the parade in the form of the Red Army during the Great Patriotic War on the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historical parade on Red Square 7 in November 1941 of the year. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA News

The march in commemoration of the November 7 parade, 1941, took place on Thursday morning on the Red Square of the Russian capital. About six thousand military men in the form of the war years, schoolchildren and cadets, as well as about 50 units of military equipment, walked along the pavement near the walls of the Kremlin, like 72 a year ago.

About eight thousand people became spectators of the event, among whom were the participants of the parade itself - those in the capital now live 57 people.

Moscow residents on the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historical parade on the Red Square 7 in November 1941 of the year. © Grigory Sysoev / RIA News

Mayor of the capital Sergei Sobyanin congratulated the audience on a significant event and recalled that the parade was held on the eve of the turning point during the Great Patriotic War and was of great importance for strengthening the morale of citizens. Then the mayor took part in the ceremony of laying flowers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and the monument to Marshal Zhukov.

Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin speaks at a ceremonial march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historic parade on Red Square 7 in November 1941. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA News

Soldiers on the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historic parade on the Red Square 7 in November 1941 of the year. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA News

T-34 tank during the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historical parade on the Red Square 7 in November 1941 of the year. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA Novosti

Soldiers on the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historic parade on the Red Square 7 in November 1941 of the year. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA News

Participants of the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historical parade on the Red Square 7 in November 1941. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA News

Participants of the parade in the form of the Red Army during the Great Patriotic War on the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historical parade on the Red Square 7 on November 1941 of the year. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA News

The reconstruction of the 1941 parade of the year took place on Red Square

Participant of the parade in the form of the Red Army during the Great Patriotic War on the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historical parade on Red Square 7 in November 1941 of the year. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA news

Soldiers on the solemn march dedicated to the 72 anniversary of the historic parade on the Red Square 7 in November 1941 of the year. © Vladimir Astapkovich / RIA News

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andrei332809

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9 November 2013 08: 27

history is important, especially such heroic moments. I hope that these fighters, just like grandfathers and great-grandfathers, will be able, if something happens, from the parade to the battle.
1. Aryan
  
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  9 November 2013 10: 41
  
  can relate differently to Soviet history
  but the 1941 parade is really a common unity and the beginning of our VICTORY
  Glory to the Fatherland !!!
2. VARCHUN
  
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  10 November 2013 01: 17
  
  And the people that is all? Hope only for the army? The people and the army are united, as they say.
3. gold
  
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  10 November 2013 23: 13
  
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svp67

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9 November 2013 08: 29

Yes, the comparison is not in favor of the present time ...

SPEECH AT THE RED ARMY PARADE
7th of November 1941.
on Red Square in Moscow

Comrades, Red Army and Red Navy, commanders and political workers, workers and workers, collective farmers and collective farmers, intelligent workers, brothers and sisters in the rear of our enemy, temporarily fell under the yoke of the German robbers, our glorious partisans and partisans, destroying the rear of the German invaders!

On behalf of the Soviet Government and our Bolshevik Party, I greet you and congratulate you on the 24th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution.

Comrades! In difficult conditions, today it is necessary to celebrate the 24th anniversary of the October Revolution. The treacherous attack of the German robbers and the war imposed on us created a threat to our country. We temporarily lost a number of regions, the enemy found himself at the gates of Leningrad and Moscow. The enemy hoped that after the first strike our army would be dispersed, our country would be brought to its knees. But the enemy miscalculated miserably. Despite temporary setbacks, our army and our fleet heroically repulse the enemy’s attacks throughout the front, inflicting heavy damage on him, and our country, our entire country, organized into a single military camp to carry out defeat together with our army and our fleet German invaders.
1. andrei332809
  
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  9 November 2013 08: 41
  
  Quote: svp67
  Yes, the comparison is not in favor of the present time ...
  1. 0255
    
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    9 November 2013 17: 43
    
    thanks for the cartoon! Able to make them in the USSR
    I somehow undeservedly forgot it (((
svp67

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9 November 2013 08: 34

There were days when our country was in an even more difficult situation. Remember the year 1918 when we celebrated the first anniversary of the October Revolution. Three quarters of our country were then in the hands of foreign interventionists. Ukraine, the Caucasus, Central Asia, the Urals, Siberia, the Far East were temporarily lost by us. We didn’t have allies, we didn’t have the Red Army — we just started to create it — there was not enough bread, not enough weapons, not enough uniforms. 14 states then pressed upon our country. But we did not lose heart, did not lose heart. In the fire of war, we then organized the Red Army and turned our country into a military camp. The spirit of the great Lenin then inspired us to war against the invaders. And what? We defeated the interventionists, recaptured all the lost territories, and achieved victory.

Now the situation in our country is much better than 23 years ago. Our country is many times richer now in industry, and food, and raw materials than 23 years ago. We now have allies, holding with us a united front against the German invaders. We now have the sympathy and support of all the peoples of Europe who have fallen under the yoke of Hitler's tyranny. We now have a wonderful army and a wonderful fleet, standing upright for the freedom and independence of our Motherland. We have no serious shortage of food, weapons, or uniforms. Our entire country, all the peoples of our country support our army, our fleet, helping them defeat the invading hordes of German fascists. Our human reserves are inexhaustible. The spirit of the great Lenin and its victorious banner now inspire us to the Patriotic War in the same way as 23 years ago.

Is there any doubt that we can and must defeat the German invaders?
Vitaly Anisimov

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9 November 2013 08: 34

Good photos! And most importantly, we remember our grandfathers and great-grandfathers! I think it was on November 7 that a turning point came in the minds of the people "There is nowhere to retreat behind Moscow .." Eternal memory to those who fell in this terrible and cruel war!
svp67

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9 November 2013 08: 34

The enemy is not as strong as some frightened intellectuals portray him. The devil is not so terrible as he is painted. Who can deny that our Red Army has repeatedly stampeded the vaunted German troops? Judging not by the boastful statements of German propagandists, but by the actual situation of Germany, it will not be difficult to understand that the Nazi invaders are facing a catastrophe. In Germany, hunger and impoverishment now reign, in 4 months of the war Germany lost 4 and a half million soldiers, Germany is bleeding, her human resources are running out, the spirit of indignation takes hold not only of the peoples of Europe who have fallen under the yoke of the German invaders, but also of the German people themselves, who does not see the end of the war. The German invaders are straining their last forces. There is no doubt that Germany cannot withstand such stress for a long time. A few more months, another six months, maybe a year, and Hitler Germany must burst under the weight of its crimes.

Comrades, Red Army and Red Navy, commanders and political workers, partisans and partisans! The whole world is looking at you as a force capable of destroying the predatory hordes of German invaders. The enslaved peoples of Europe, who have fallen under the yoke of the German invaders, look at you as their liberators. The great liberation mission has fallen to your lot. Be worthy of this mission! The war you are waging is a war of liberation, a just war. May the courageous image of our great ancestors - Alexander Nevsky, Dimitry Donskoy, Kuzma Minin, Dimitry Pozharsky, Alexander Suvorov, Mikhail Kutuzov inspire you in this war! May the victorious banner of the great Lenin overshadow you!

For the complete defeat of the German invaders!

Death to the German occupiers!

Long live our glorious Motherland, its freedom, its independence!

Under the banner of Lenin - forward to victory!
1. svp67
  
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  9 November 2013 10: 07
  
  It is very strange that the Mayor, not the President, spoke at this "event" ... - there are differences in the approach to the issue of patriotic education, you can talk about a lot, but what you can do ... The event is still NOT COMMON.
  1. Corsair
    
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    9 November 2013 10: 27
    
    Quote: svp67
    It is very strange that the Mayor, not the President, spoke at this "event" ... - there are differences in the approach to the issue of patriotic education, you can talk about a lot, but what you can do ... The event is still NOT COMMON.
    
    The "strangeness" is quite understandable. Sobyanin is a probable "successor" to the presidency ...
    1. svp67
      
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      9 November 2013 10: 58
      
      Quote: Corsair
      The "strangeness" is quite understandable. Sobyanin is a probable "successor" to the presidency ...
      
      There are a dozen of these "probable" ones, and SUCH an event is ONE in history ... And to show the significance they use a more cunning scheme - for example, where and who will be put from the President at the festive table ...
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      
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      9 November 2013 13: 29
      
      Sobyanin does not draw on the President .. (and it won’t be soon) And if Putin appeared there liberals all over the world would sleep with joy .. and malice .. I’m glad that the holiday went like that! Quiet and without PR .. ETERNAL MEMORY TO THE UNIDENTED SOLDIERS DIED ON THE APPROACHES TO MOSCOW! Just look at their eyes when they marched along Red Square (most of them died anonymously) And respect to Sobyanin that he did this silently without PR ..
      1. Corsair
        
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        9 November 2013 18: 15
        
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Quiet and without PR .. ETERNAL MEMORY TO THE UNIDENTED SOLDIERS DIED ON THE APPROACHES TO MOSCOW!
        
        An inexplicable "minus" put to you by someone, but this is fixable ...
Ols76

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9 November 2013 08: 39

Eternal memory to the fallen in the war!
kaktus

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9 November 2013 09: 45

We will remember the harsh autumn,
the grinding of tanks and the reflection of bayonets,
and 28 will live in hearts
your bravest sons.
And the enemy will never achieve
so your head bowed
my dear capital
my golden Moscow!
omsbon

+2

9 November 2013 09: 47

The farther away, the heroic time, the more persistent efforts must be made so that the memory of them remains as long as possible!
This is our pride and glory!
vladkavkaz

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9 November 2013 10: 01

The parade on November 7, in honor of the parade on November 7 ... The bureaucrats are short and selective in memory.
Why not admit that the November parade on November 7, in honor of the Revolution, to raise the morale of the country?
Why, as always, bashfully and shamefully drape the Mausoleum?
How about Sobyanin as a "speaker", and not some of the country's top officials? Are they ashamed? Why are they ashamed? We know what they are all ashamed of ...
1. vladimirZ
  
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  9 November 2013 12: 00
  
  Are you ashamed? Why are you ashamed? We know why they are all ashamed ...
  
  Correctly think the highest authority of Russia is ashamed of its history !!!
  They are ashamed of the Great Generalissimo Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich, they are ashamed of their people, who broke the back of German fascism and protected the whole world from the brown threat!
  They want the people to forget their history, all the media were sent to hammer the memory of the people, they shoot tolerant films about the war, such as Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad", about which one of the veterans, the general said: "It is necessary to get to the point of shooting German whores in the film, instead of thousands of girls who fought with the Germans - a shame! ".
  Shame on the liberal government of Russia !!!
  1. smile
    
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    9 November 2013 12: 43
    
    vladimirZ
    Do you think, because of its liberalism, the power since 2000 has consistently squeezed the Melechin-Svinidze of their Ether, and now they are almost gone on TV?
    Because of this, a lot of excellent doc films about WWII have been created, which are regularly broadcast on all channels?
    That is why you are yelling in unison with the liberals "Shame on the authorities"? Look back at like-minded people who are in the same ranks with you, all swamp liberals. Like? Nu-nu, keep yelling, maybe you will be able to achieve that in the media again they will start to show completely crap about the bloody gebna, gulags and equate communists with fascists, as your like-minded people crave, you will probably feel lumpy satisfaction. :)))
    1. vladkavkaz
      
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      9 November 2013 17: 49
      
      smile (2
      The fanfare is a bit quieter and the drum is a bit duller, at the expense of reducing the filmmakers with all sorts of rubbish about the powder-two films, on TV Ashes and Vasily Stalin, what rubbish?
      And what about Fedenka Bondarchuk's mediocre cinematography - "Stalingrad"? Already we need to be so loudly filled with a nightingale, people are not stupid, blind and deaf, so as not to see the shame of all these directors and filming all nonsense. Svanidze with K, and that is more honest, obviously Honestly complete opponents of the country, especially in terms of its recent history.
      Half-truth, always much WORSE of lies.
      And do not recall here these swamp and other hamsters, since he himself, sometimes as the same hamster, without understanding, you eat praises ....
      1. smile
        
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        9 November 2013 20: 06
        
        vladkavkaz
        1. This time I won’t answer your attacks against me personally - I won’t tear you because you are babbling in one comment about drums, fanfare, hamsters and nightingales ... until I’ll be - it’s disgusting to me ... and please, keep yourself in control — don’t force you to bring up — I don’t want to, and then you will be offended. :)))
        
        2. I will answer the case, although the meaning of this comment is very small.
        
        So - Svinidze, Mlechin and others like them since perestroika times have simply occupied the screen - in the media, almost all documentaries were in their corporate style and with their corporate lies.
        Since 2000, the reverse process has begun. occasionally these two are shown with their traditional filth, the bulk of documentary films are now quite normal (well, at a discount on the illiteracy of some journalists) - you can’t notice this only intentionally, only a liar can say the opposite. Why are you lying?
        
        Neither Svanidze, nor Mlechin ever say that they are enemies of the Russian state - no, they consider themselves patriots and ideological opponents of the Putin regime ... in this you sing in unison with them - and do not be shy - because, in your words, half-truth worse than a lie ... :))))
        your natural shyness does not allow you to admit your unanimity with them on many issues, or natural deceit? Please answer, I am interested. I don’t propose a variant with a lack of reason - you are, in theory, a reasonably reasonable person.
        
        About the feature film. Here we have worse - the school has been lost, a generation of directors has come into dawn, brought up during the period of dominance of the views of your like-minded people according to Putin-Mlechinsky Svinidze.
        Do you communicate with creative tiligation? Do not communicate - they have no knowledge about our history, but there are a couple of three dirty propaganda myths in which they fervently believe with the same fury with which they hate totalitarian Putin ... :))) Because when you talk with them about history - fists itch ... and for two reasons - both from deceitfulness, unwillingness to see the obvious, and from banal slumber, dullness - argumentation does not reach them ...
        What can they take off? So they take off ...
        
        vladkavkaz
        
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        10 November 2013 00: 11
        
        smile(
        Do you read how, through the screen, between the lines, behind the computer screen?
        The site’s Pythia is straightforward, since in my comment I saw something that, in your opinion, discredits the GDP and, moreover, supposedly in my almost allies and like-minded people, this dirt in the community called the Svanidzemelechins and others ..
        It’s easier in estimates, all the more so since Tony does not at all correspond to what I think, and in particular, my personal attitude to the same GDP
        Your natural (rather far-fetched, to yourself) tendency to be smart, in the form of slightly veiled insults, leave it for schoolchildren not burdened with intelligence.
        They could not argue with what I said, but how can I get more traction as a schoolboy at the blackboard-SUMELI?
        So scratch your fist on your pumpkin, so that henceforth you wouldn’t be so loud in fanfares, but they wouldn’t beat the timpani, expert.
        The only thing we can agree on is that education in the form, as gracefully expressed by tiligents, has long become what the hated Ilyich-Shit nation has so clearly called you ....
        By the way, your knowledge of the role and place in the history of the country, Lenin, on the verge of a plinth.
        
        smile
        
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        10 November 2013 03: 52
        
        vladkavkaz
        Thank you for this time limited to the fact that I am friends with fanfare and timpani, that I am the Pythia of the Site (is that a compliment? :))))), accusations of cleverness, comparisons with schoolchildren, suspicions of my "natural inclinations". ... :)))
        I must admit that I’m glad that you didn’t have to put it in place .... I wouldn’t like to tear you exactly .... for various reasons, one of which I remember that in some respects our opinions coincided. ... I feel sorry for you ....
        
        Since you stopped comparing me with animals, either it became clear to you that you were paraffinous, or your conscience just spoke ... I hope that the second .... as for the puddle .... then why would it? I really do not understand your bashfulness - that Svinidze, that Mlechin and their followers are unanimous in your assessment of the current government .... well, so acknowledge your allies! Be honest. :))) .... since you are like-minded people at this moment, so why bother? Denial of this is not just not half-truth, it is a nonsense lies ... :))))
        You rightly said about the "shit of the nation" ... and how did you manage to get into it? But you got there ... And what could I not dispute there? Why was there any challenge there? .... Okay, I won't continue, because I really respect you ... even in spite of .... can I not continue? :))))
        
        vladkavkaz
        
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        10 November 2013 09: 00
        
        smile (2
        Again I pounded tambourines .... You remind me of a capercaillie who does not hear a damn thing, tokuya.
        At the expense of putting in place, you like that place, you know?
        Pity? Is it to someone to yourself or something? Well, feel sorry for yourself, I’m not interested in why you would be attacked by increased tearfulness.
        But the fact that the current government is something that is very crooked, deceitful and inconsistent, except for one case, its self-preservation, is a fact.
        Will you deny it?
        Well, try, explain, the teacher, because he installed the comp program for his students, as they say counterfeit, sits, and the bureaucrat who has finished 9 million is conditionally punished. Is it a single case or system?
        Or the hero of the furniture troops and the woman’s battalions, a certain Serdyukov, doesn’t live, and the affairs of the accomplices are losing weight and losing weight in the amount of saw-cut-kickbacks stolen from the Moscow Region, can you deny?
        Can you deny the impressive extent of theft in Skolkovo, from a friend and patron of all the current nouveaux thieves, Chubais?
        So, curiosity, less screaming, then, with less squealing and fanfare, not everything is okay in our country.
        
        smile
        
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        10 November 2013 13: 14
        
        vladkavkaz
        In my two previous comments, I have clearly proved to you that you are false, inconsistent and hypocritical ... I’m very sorry that I have to add that it’s also ... not far off.
        You couldn’t bring a single intelligible argument, you couldn’t say a word in your defense, you dodge like a louse on a comb ... you had enough brains for fanfare and tambourines :)))) ... you don’t even have the courage and conscience to to admit that Svanidhe and Mlechin are your like-minded people in relation to the current government. As well as all sorts of Novodvorskie, gozmany .. and so on. :)))))
        
        Before asking questions, it is worth answering the questions given. I would answer you, but it’s disgusting to talk to you - the dishonesty and stupidity of my interlocutor infuriate me. I propose to end the debate on this subject - all the same, you are not able to conduct it constructively
      2. smersh70
        
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        10 November 2013 00: 56
        
        [quote = vladkavkaz] on TV Ashes [/ quot
        
        Don’t tell about the Ashes .. the military unit and especially the image of the Specialist it was such a sensation that they copied from me the truth at the end they smeared the guy)))))
        
        smile
        
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        10 November 2013 04: 51
        
        smersh70
        Vurgun, why are you really "shut up, shut up"? If so, then you are a brave guy, write here :))) ... or do you have to draw up reports? :)))
        Vurgun, honestly, I'm without a shadow of humor, just the realities of workers, for example, the Lithuanian Children's Children's Hospital ... well, and some of their colleagues from the relevant services of other countries would not leave you a single chance - if you would have the same ... . rules ... to put it mildly, it would be great to interfere with your service ... :))))
        
        smersh70
        
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        10 November 2013 13: 11
        
        Quote: smile
        shut up, shut up "?
        
        Well, then you know)))))
        Quote: smile
        have to draw up reports? :)))
        
        designed in the past))))))
        Quote: smile
        For example, Lithuanian Children's City Hospital.
        
        they are probably worried comrades)))) they probably seem to be everywhere the NKVD ....
        
        vladkavkaz
        
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        10 November 2013 09: 03
        
        smersh70
        I guess I had before my eyes other examples of specialists, and the fact that I had other examples, there is something to remember and for some people sometimes to drink for health.
        And what is shown is the inflamed nonsense of liberal burping society.
        
        smersh70
        
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        10 November 2013 13: 28
        
        Quote: vladkavkaz
        other examples of specialists
        
        I won’t tell you about the idea of the film ... but from the point of view of the work of the military counterintelligence. This prototype of the special agent ... I really did everything right. I placed the secret agents correctly ... I kept my hand on the pulse of the part, including both the unspoken, vowel. operational work ... when he saw that they were robbing the warehouse, the other would start screaming, and he would do his job professionally ... that is, follow the whole chain, from beginning to end ......
    2. vladimirZ
      
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      10 November 2013 15: 19
      
      smile, what do you think, if the Slevanidze Mlechins were moved from channel to channel, and some liberals pushed the other German-Kudrins from the trough, then the liberal power disappeared or recovered. You are mistaken.
      The power of the liberals is in place. It will remain in the same place, even if the same "swamp" liberals are put in their place.
      How many of them changed during the 23 years of rule: Yeltsin, Gaidar, Chubais, Chernomydrin, Luzhkov, Kudrin, etc.
      That Putin and Medvedev are not liberals?
      What has changed in essence, as they plundered Russia, they continue to plunder, export the looted abroad, they destroyed and continue to destroy its economy with the help of privatization, elections are falsified only to remain in power.
      The liberals turned Russia into a raw materials appendage of the West, drove the Russian economy into a protracted regression, from which there is no way out, destroyed the army, eliminated free education and medicine, lowered the majority of the population into poverty, etc., can be listed for a long time.
      So for what they sing praise?
      For the fact that they stopped showing "crap about bloody gebn, gulags and equating communists with fascists" and spinning "good" movies?
      Wait a minute, the elections will come up and the propaganda of "universal human values" will begin again, which are threatened by the red-brown, and will again stand in the front line of the Svanidze-Millechens.
      Only the change of liberal power to the power of patriotic forces standing on social-democratic and communist positions can rectify the situation.
      Respect the current power of the liberals for the devastation and humiliation of Russia is impossible!
George

+2

9 November 2013 10: 13

Hello everyone .
8 000 people ?
Is it not enough? for the capital?
aszzz888

+1

9 November 2013 12: 22

A holiday is a holiday. Solemnly, beautifully, powerfully ... And as for the fact that the president did not speak: do you not admit that he was not in Moscow at that time. What brand of shame so immediately.
1. svp67
  
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  9 November 2013 12: 25
  
  Quote: aszzz888
  And about the fact that the president did not speak: but you do not admit that he was not in Moscow at that time. What brand of shame so immediately.
  
  Shame? No, I will say this - the people are perplexed, is this a national holiday or a Moscow one? If it’s Moscow, then everything is fine, but if it’s popular, then excuse me, but it was possible to send DAM or Shoigu ...
Prapor-527

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9 November 2013 13: 13

Quote: svp67
Yes, the comparison is not in favor of the present.
Do you doubt the modern soldiers of the Russian Army? Yes, they will tear anyone, and they will lay bones for their homeland ...
smersh70

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9 November 2013 13: 33

I was surprised by the presence of so many Mosin rifles ... Degtyarov’s machine guns ... PPSh ... wedges ... that means the warehouses are still full ... they didn’t destroy ..... but it’s good ... it’s also useful .. and in some films it’s good, like a film about 4 diggers .. the battle went terrible pov I go MTLBshchki ......
wolf1945

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9 November 2013 16: 00

And yet November 7th is the 96th anniversary of OCTOBER !!!
1. svp67
  
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  9 November 2013 16: 05
  
  Quote: Wolf1945
  And yet November 7th is the 96th anniversary of OCTOBER !!!
  The fact of the matter is that if November 7, 1917 is not considered a holiday, some consider it a day - a tragedy, then November 7, 1941 - the overwhelming number of our people consider a holiday, "THE FORECAST OF OUR VICTORY"
  1. vladkavkaz
    
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    9 November 2013 17: 51
    
    svp67
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Wolf1945
    And yet November 7th is the 96th anniversary of OCTOBER !!!
    The fact of the matter is that if November 7, 1917 is not considered a holiday, some consider it a day - a tragedy, then November 7, 1941 - the overwhelming number of our people consider a holiday, "THE FORECAST OF OUR VICTORY"
    
    YES, and nevertheless, DON'T BE OCTOBER / 17, MAY 1945 would not have happened.
    It’s possible to arbitrarily argue who was pinched there at 17, but the fact remains that those who were pinched destroyed the country in February 17, therefore those who in February got to power, if they had stayed there, it’s not at all a fact that they would have prepared the country for rebuff, and even more so the second peace in such a case would have started earlier — the crisis of capitalism has not gone away and the West would have tried hard to redistribute property, resources, at the expense of Russia.
    And exactly the same can be understood by those who scream about 37, these citizens, accomplices of Leiba Trotsky, were absolutely not able to prepare the country for the war — enough to read, the state of affairs in the Red Army, when the rulers of the Tukhachevsky and others were there .. .
runway

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9 November 2013 16: 05

The authorities say a lot about the unification of the peoples living in our country, but does nothing for this. None of the federal channels (except TVC) broadcast the parade. A common misfortune and grief rallied our peoples in the harsh years of the war. A soldier in our uniform, regardless of what nationality he was, was native to everyone in our multinational country. If the authorities until today have not solved the problems of veterans who liberated not only our country, but also Europe from fascism; if the authorities do not stop the Nazi marches in our country and do not impose sanctions against the countries in which they are officially held, WHEN WHOSE ON THEIR PARTY?
I believe that no urgent matters should be an obstacle to the presence of the president at such an event. But maybe he is ashamed to look veterans in the eyes? Although he had long since lost his shame.
1. vladkavkaz
  
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  9 November 2013 17: 56
  
  ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE !!!!!
Aydar

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9 November 2013 18: 51

made another mummership show.
1. Kulneff2009
  
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  4 December 2013 21: 48
  
  This is not a show! This is pride in your country! I was in Kazakhstan on the show. Everyone remembers Panfilov’s! But no one remembers the Kabanbai batyr! How many Kazakhs did not ask, no one answered!
T-73

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9 November 2013 20: 18

Quote: svp67
Yes, the comparison is not in favor of the present time ...

moot point. Stalin in profile (and in full-face, and on-line - what a sin to hide!) Is in demand. The mayor is ridiculous because of the incomparability of the meaning of his - a fighter with traffic jams and his - Parade. This is not a city event. I am not a communist, and not edros, we are non-partisan, but feeling like part of the RUSSIAN people and I say as part of it: our memory cannot be killed. Have you changed the external enemy? Have you changed the date? Change. For us, officialdom is a sacred (governmental only truth) business! Now europidoro ..., in the sense of the Dutch, we need to put in place - and we are smiling. Are we taking an example from the Chinese? But we are different! It's time to look at the decisiveness of our grandfathers and choose your path.
Quote: Aydar
made another mummers show

Maybe so. But not you to rebuke us. Do not follow our memory, but your country.
1. Aydar
  
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  10 November 2013 08: 36
  
  My country is represented by the pretentious speech of the fat-faced "political instructor Klochkov", this is a show from the category of "creativity of Bondarchuk and Mikhalkov", so I, as a representative of "my country", whose citizens (according to the Stalin Constitution, the Kazakh SSR formally had its own Constitution, Coat of arms , Anthem, citizenship) were killed in the battle near Moscow.
Sirius-2

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9 November 2013 22: 00

In order to agitate patriotism, this parade must be broadcast on television. Let on one channel, even in the recording, but broadcast. And over the years it may become such a tradition that presidents will host a parade.
Sirius-2

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9 November 2013 22: 01

In order to agitate patriotism, this parade must be broadcast on television. Let on one channel, even in the recording, but broadcast. And over the years it may become such a tradition that presidents will host a parade.
ELECTRON

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10 November 2013 01: 29

Quote: Sirius-2
In order to agitate patriotism, this parade must be broadcast on television. Let on one channel, even in the recording, but broadcast. And over the years it may become such a tradition that presidents will host a parade.

I completely agree with you. For more often such historical parades would suit. once again remind youth of history and make once again look and take an interest in the history of our country with you!
POBEDA

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10 November 2013 02: 34

The parade on November 7, 1941 is certainly a landmark event! But, what is presented today in the format of November 4 is the day of unity, and November 7, the day of the parade is an unconditional sitting on two chairs! The authorities must decide where we are moving our country! Likewise, the impossible situation with Orthodox icons on the Spasskaya and Nikolskaya towers, on the tents of which the godless red stars! The situation with the churchyard on the Red Square is also impossible, where various entertainment events, concerts and ice rinks, constantly functioning glamorous cafes are constantly held ... It is necessary to clearly determine the stars or Orthodox crosses and icons, the cemetery of the worshipers with a mausoleum or the trading area for parades and entertainments! Otherwise, the country goes wild, there is no vector .. this is a dead end ..
1. VengefulRat
  
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  10 November 2013 07: 09
  
  Rather, we need an alternative, we need some kind of approach to all this. Red stars have been and remain our symbols for decades. They were symbols of our Victory in the Great Patriotic War, the greatness of the Soviet state. But Orthodox icons are our faith, this is also our symbol. And on the other hand, where else to hold military parades that affirm our military power, and in theory should awaken patriotic feelings. For me personally, the parades on Red Square are the symbolism of our army, our victories, our great and unbending country! And festivities should also be held on the main square of the country. Another thing is that there are different festivities and far from everything, of course, must be allowed.
T-73

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10 November 2013 11: 47

Quote: VengefulRat
need an alternative, need some kind of approach to all this

You don't need anything. You yourself outlined the solution in your post. Victory has its own symbols, and faith has its own. Somehow we got along with different symbols of different sides of our life before. For some, the stars on the team's T-shirt are a symbol of strength and will to win, for some the name of the car "Victory" is a symbol of the former might of our car industry. There are many symbols. You just need to understand a simple thing - Saturday is for a person, not a person for Saturday. November 7 - for the Parade, forgiven Sunday - and so it is clear, the day of cosmonautics - the time to remember that we were the first in space. The list can be very long. This is the look
Quote: VengefulRat
on the other hand