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For separatism offer to plant on 20 years

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For separatism offer to plant on 20 years



A draft law has been submitted to the State Duma of the Russian Federation, which provides for imprisonment of up to six years for propaganda of separatism, and for organizational activities and public calls for separatism in the media and the Internet - up to 20 years.

The deputies propose to supplement the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation with an article that will provide for responsibility for a wide range of actions: ranging from spreading the ideas of separatism and denying the territorial integrity of Russia to the creation of separatist organizations.

The bill was introduced by United Russia deputies Anton Romanov, Yevgeny Fedorov and "Social Revolutionary" Mikhail Yemelyanov. Previously, similar measures were proposed by representatives of the Communist Party.

So, for the propaganda of separatism is proposed to plant up to six years. For the manufacture, storage, distribution or advertising of separatist materials can imprison up to seven years. Sympathy for separatism or public denial of Russia's territorial integrity may result in a three-year term.

For officials and for appeals to separatism through the media and the Internet, the punishment is stricter - up to 20 years.

The new law provides for punishment not only for the so-called separatists, but also for those who finance their actions: for such an act they can imprison up to 10 years.

All penalties are accompanied by a prohibition to hold certain positions from 10 to 20 years and restriction of freedom for a period of one to two years.

In addition, the document provides punishment for propaganda and demonstration of Nazi symbols: for citizens it is a fine of 2 - 5 thousand or arrest up to 15 days, officials are fined 5 - 10 thousand rubles, legal entities - 50 - 300 thousand rubles.

Russia's sovereignty - the red line, for which you can not go

President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly spoken about the inadmissibility of separatism. In particular, in September at a meeting of the Valdai Club, he stressed that "Russia was formed precisely as a multi-ethnic and multi-religious state." “By questioning our multinationality, starting to exploit the theme of Russian, Tatar, Caucasian, Siberian, and any other separatism and nationalism, we embark on the path of destroying our genetic code, in fact, we begin to destroy ourselves,” Putin said.

He also stressed that "the sovereignty, independence, integrity of Russia are unconditional, these are the red lines for which no one can go."

Public Chamber criticized the initiative

Chairman of the Committee of the Public Chamber of Russia on interethnic relations and freedom of conscience journalist Nikolai Svanidze considers the adoption of a law on separatism inappropriate.

In his opinion, it is necessary to define clear criteria for the concept of separatism. He admitted that he did not fully understand what appeals to separatism are.

“Appeals similar to those made by Vladimir Zhirinovsky about enclosing any part of Russia with barbed wire fall under this law? Call to stop feeding the Caucasus, which are popular not only on the Russian march, but also among fairly moderate people nationalist views? If the analyst says that such a tactic can lead to the separation of a particular region of the country, does he call for separatism? " - said the chairman of the committee.

Svanidze believes that the country's integrity is threatened not by the phenomena identified in the bill, but by the lack of a clear national policy.

"Calls for something are secondary, the main thing is the socio-political mood, as well as the adoption by the state of a line, primarily socio-economic, without which it is impossible to maintain the interest of one or another part of the country or region to live together. And by law for appeals to separatism it is possible to even quarter. Separatist sentiments will not go anywhere, "- said the journalist.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 9 November 2013 07: 22
    +2
    "The chairman of the Russian Public Chamber's committee on interethnic relations and freedom of conscience, journalist Nikolai Svanidze considers the adoption of a law on separatism inappropriate."
    and other human rights activists have stated that this is contrary to freedom of speech
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 07: 54
      12
      Quote: andrei332809
      and other human rights activists have stated that this is contrary to freedom of speech

      If human rights defenders are against, then you need to accept.
      1. Simon
        Simon 9 November 2013 09: 19
        +6
        I am for it!!!good
        1. Migari
          Migari 9 November 2013 11: 45
          +4
          So do I.
          We have so many lovers of freedom of speech divorced that they do not understand what they are saying, they give the Arctic, Siberia to the Urals, the Caucasus, etc. so this law will set the brains of some people, and will give an opportunity to think well for 20 years.
    2. AVV
      AVV 9 November 2013 15: 31
      +2
      Svanidze to Georgia, human rights defenders in Kolyma, let the rights of prisoners be protected there, otherwise parasites stuck here to the state embassy, ​​found a way to make money, and they should also fall under the law under the law, for activities against the sovereignty of Russia, for the propaganda of separatism !! !
      1. andrejwz
        andrejwz 9 November 2013 17: 24
        +1
        Quote: AVV
        Svanidze to Georgia, human rights defenders in Kolyma, let them protect the rights of prisoners there, otherwise parasites stuck to the state embassy here, found a way to make money,

        Svanidze N.K. - Named in honor of the grandfather - the party leader Nikolai Samsonovich Svanidze, shot in 1937, a distant relative of the first wife of Joseph Stalin - E. S. Svanidze. Paternal line Nikolai Svanidze's grandmother - Tsilya Isaakovna was a member of the Bolshevik party. According to Nikolai Svanidze, she hated Stalin.
        Perhaps he should have been escorted to Israel. It is clear from the certificate that such figures are absorbed with mother's milk to "stick to" and hate such figures.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2013 07: 31
    +4
    any sovereign state falls under this article, for which, apparently, the United States also "punishes" the countries suffering from separatism.
  3. Lyokha79
    Lyokha79 9 November 2013 07: 34
    +7
    For a long time it was necessary to adopt a similar law. Too many divorced, inside the country, wishing to tear pieces from her. The law must be adopted and let these clever people on the bunks think about how they were wrong. It is not clear only why such a weak punishment for the demonstration of fascist symbols?
    1. Kolya
      Kolya 9 November 2013 08: 29
      +3
      if they still fought corruption as well. For corrupt officials other standards. After all, corrupt officials are the elite in Russia!
      1. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 11 November 2013 04: 46
        0
        Do not touch the holy cow of democracy!
  4. kaktus
    kaktus 9 November 2013 07: 35
    +5
    Of course, the wording should be clear. For example, how to define "separatist sympathies"? Specificity is necessary so that defenders would make less noise about freedom of chatter.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 9 November 2013 07: 42
      +2
      Quote: kaktus
      Of course, the wording should be clear.

      I'm afraid that our writers will do everything again through xNUMX. a feeling that they do not know how otherwise. and again, the selectivity of our judicial system in the liver sits
      1. kaktus
        kaktus 9 November 2013 07: 44
        +1
        The bill on the recall of deputies has been "stalled" since 1990 angry
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 07: 55
      +1
      Quote: kaktus
      so that the freedom of talk is less noisy.

      Don't you give a damn about their screams?
    3. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 9 November 2013 09: 04
      0
      Of course, the wording should be clear.


      The law on combating separatism must be adopted; the state must protect itself from destruction.
      And the wording should not double interpret their meaning.
      Systematic actions, work, appeals, publication of articles for the division of Russia, but in no case an analysis of events, situations warning of the possible and threatening danger of separatism should be subject to criminal penalties.
      Also, it is necessary to amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation in paragraphs 1 and 2 of Article 5, in which there is a legal conflict or in plain language a contradiction:
      clause 1 declares the equality of all subjects of the federation, and clause 2 defines the special status of such a subject of the federation as a "republic" called a "state".
      It turns out that in our state there are several more states. And where is the equality of the subjects of the federation that are not republics?
      Such a formulation of the Basic Law of the State - the Constitution in Article 5 - is a direct incitement of national elites to separatism and separation.
      A similar situation was in the USSR, the division into national republics, what everyone knows the USSR finished with, when the situation worsened, all the national republics fled, destroying the USSR.
      It is necessary to amend Article 5 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and really equalize all the subjects of the federation, even in the name, excluding the formulation of nationality and the definition of "state" as applied to the subject of the federation.
      For example, you can return to such a traditional Russian term as "province" for all subjects of the federation, all the more so since we are already full of governors smile
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 9 November 2013 09: 22
        +2
        Oh, the first cons have already appeared. According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, potential separatists from national republics (states) do not want to lose their special powers, including the potential position for leaving Russia.
  5. Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 9 November 2013 07: 40
    +3
    All the roots of separatism are growing purely from the stupid policies of our state. From national to economic. Here for these mistakes of responsible persons it is necessary to plant for twenty years.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 9 November 2013 07: 45
      +2
      To those parts to send where separatism intensifies laughing
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 9 November 2013 08: 06
        +3
        Quote: kaktus
        To those parts to send where separatism intensifies

        On drifting ice floe separators, let them be divided laughing
    2. alone
      alone 9 November 2013 13: 13
      0
      Quote: Kirzhak
      All the roots of separatism are growing purely from the stupid policies of our state. From national to economic. Here for these mistakes of responsible persons it is necessary to plant for twenty years.


      Well, how can I tell you, if you think well, everything that has been happening for 23 years has led to this.
      it would be interesting to look at the faces of those who lifted EBN to the tank, where he, in a deep drunkenness, shouted to the whole of Russia: "take sovereignty as you want."
      She supported in every possible way all kinds of separatists in other countries, alienating those who were attacked by the separatists. He lost the first Chechen campaign won. But the second one won is still not finished.

      It is impossible to defeat the separatists at home, supporting the separatists in other states.
  6. Alikovo
    Alikovo 9 November 2013 07: 51
    +2
    I support this law. But the fine for Nazi symbols is too small to increase to 10-15 thousand rubles.
  7. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 9 November 2013 07: 58
    +3
    It is not a matter of timing, but inevitability ...
  8. Hey
    Hey 9 November 2013 08: 42
    +2
    In this matter, there are pitfalls in the form of articles of the Constitution of Russia and the harmonization of the law with them. Like the concepts “territory”, “territorial integrity”, “sovereignty”, “self-determination of peoples” contained in it. And there is such a mess that most likely the law will not be adopted.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 9 November 2013 08: 53
      +2
      quote-In the State Duma of the Russian Federation introduced a bill that provides for imprisonment up to six years old for the propaganda of separatism, and for organizational activities and public calls for separatism in the media and the Internet - to 20 years.
      quote Sovereignty of Russia is a red line that cannot be crossed.


      My suggestion-lifelong imprisonment to repel any desire for separatism. More precisely.
  9. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 November 2013 08: 52
    +4
    Who's against it? Those who call for the dismemberment and destruction of Russia: to give up the Arctic, to give up the islands to Russia along the Ural Ridge! The main thing is that this whole pack does not turn the "arrows" on ordinary citizens expressing dissatisfaction with some government decisions. And in this the liberals are virtuoso masters (for example, the his women), so the laws are even correct, you need to adopt and create their protection from the liberals!
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  11. Clueless
    Clueless 9 November 2013 16: 20
    0
    This law in today's realities will make the country only worse, because if the regions again demand to leave them more money (because now they are sending almost everything to Moscow), the government will easily plant all those who demand for 20 years. And then people just explode in the regions, about the Russian rebellion, everyone knows what it is.

    First, let them put things in order with deductions to the budgets, and then they will pass laws.
  12. Onyx
    Onyx 9 November 2013 16: 52
    +2
    For separatism offer to plant on 20 years

    Finally!
  13. alekseyal
    9 November 2013 17: 17
    +1
    The bill was developed with the participation of the Great Patriotic Party (Air Defense)


    http://nstarikov.ru/blog/28219
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  15. No_more
    No_more 11 November 2013 20: 06
    0
    Yeah, again they are only struggling with the consequences, and not with the causes. I don’t know, there’s absolutely no analysts in the state. Not a bill, but some window dressing. You can still prohibit earning a little, to be unhappy or uneducated.
    You will not be forcibly sweet - like a long-known fact. Separatism does not happen from scratch, as well as unauthorized meetings, of course, they can be promoted, provoked, but such a solution to the problem of relatives treating painkillers. Not one satisfied person or not satisfied, but understanding what opportunities he has to satisfy his needs, will not be struck by radicalism. Laziness, window dressing and personal interests are the three pillars of the activity of the majority (not all) of lawmakers.