Horsepower Corruption: 540 thousand rubles per second

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540 thousand rubles per second advertising video dedicated to the so-called innogradu Russia - "Skolkovo". 540 thousand rubles! And the total amount spent on three clips with a total duration of 1 minute 40 seconds, amounted to 54 million rubles. This is the most expensive advertisement in modern Russian. stories. The average price of a minute of advertising time even for the largest global companies rarely exceeds 100 thousand dollars (about 3,3 million rubles). In other words, in less than a two-minute advertisement in Skolkovo about 50 millions were stolen! This is the scale! Here is this corrupt "horsepower"!

Horsepower Corruption: 540 thousand rubles per second


This is just one of those questions that the Prosecutor General’s Office addresses after checking the well-known (albeit far from a scientific point of view) “Russian Silicon Valley”. The report of the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation on the results of the audit of the financial activities of Skolkovo is literally replete with information about misuse of funds, use of the services of companies whose prices exceed all conceivable and inconceivable limits, about spending bypassing the bans of focal points.

One of the points: the use of grants received exclusively "Skolkovo". The fact is that about 22-x billion rubles, not so long ago received for the implementation of scientific research, were unexpectedly placed on bank deposits. It can be assumed that the fund lacked a certain amount to start a large project, and therefore it was decided to “accumulate” this (missing) amount through financial organizations. However, such an explanation seems untenable, since the placement was very strange: the billions were placed on deposits whose interest rates were minimal. What for? So banks are affiliated. They raised capital at the expense of state funds. And there were cases established by the Prosecutor General’s Office when the money was lent (without interest at all) to certain strange companies whose owners and co-owners were persons at the top of the “innograd” management. So maybe this was the scientific experiment of specialists from Skolkovo, in which it was necessary to study in detail the program called “How is the ... public funds?” - sorry for the expression used.

According to the Vedomosti newspaper, in September 2011, a grant through Skolkovo was received by UC Rusal ITC, one of whose co-owners is Viktor Vekselberg, President of Innograd. People who participated in the allocation of these funds are now inclined to declare that “bezrybe and cancer is a fish”: they say, no one went to Skolkovo then, but the company in which a considerable share of shares belongs to Vekselberg went, that is It turns out that ITC UC Rusal even supported the developing Skolkovo ... That’s how it turned out that everything was in fact ... A sort of vital affiliation is just a new word in economics ...

Employees of the General Prosecutor's Office found that four more grants totaling 1 billion. 200 million rubles were allocated (except for impudence and unprincipledness) without a negative verdict of the Skolkovo subdivision! In other words, some companies declared that they want to receive a grant for certain types of activities, a commission has gathered, discussed the prospects of such types of activities and these firms themselves. The commission came to the conclusion that it was impossible to give money, but ... the money was still given. Like, we saw your commission together with the relevant departments and their principles ...

But if in some specialized divisions someone else tried to follow the principle, in others - everything was arranged differently. So, about 3,6 billion rubles in the form of grants were received by companies to which the most directly related were those who in the core units of Skolkovo and "met." More than one and a half billion rubles went to a company that did not even apply for participation in a cooperation project with Skolkovo. That is, the money was given to the “uncle”, which, judging by the reports, no one had ever seen before, and who simply passed by, hardly imagining what it all was like for Skolkovo ... I passed by, and then - get a grant ! You can not even sign the receipt ...

What it is: negligence, carelessness, or top spitting on the people's and state interests - such corruption rudeness, which is raised to a degree.

It is noteworthy that even before the recent report on the activities of Skolkovo, the work of this organization more than once came into the view of the controlling state structures. The specialized units of Skolkovo, on the basis of one of the prescriptions, were obliged to conduct a total control over the spending of the allocated funds as soon as possible. New Prosecutor General's Office again plunges into shock. It turned out that for all the work of Skolkovo, in fact, the targeted use of funds was checked a little more than half a percent from all those “desks” and “offices” with which “innograd” cooperates. That is, the spending of 99,5% of funds allocated from the state budget - nobody at all was going to control from the funds of millions of Russian taxpayers ...

During the “titanic” work of the fund, it took more than half a billion rubles to pay for consulting services alone. Well, where else can you find such "expensive" consultants, if not in Skolkovo?

The Prosecutor General's Office cites data that “innogradu” allocated about 50 billion rubles without any documents about the need for budgetary control and even without stating what targets should be taken ... It turns out that the money was given under the “honest noble” word.

Receiving money from the state budget, Skolkovo did not agree on the rules for conducting scientific and educational activities. The rules for the use of allocated land did not come into force. Employees of the Prosecutor General’s Office came to the conclusion that in the “Innograd” there is no documentation permitting construction on these lands, as there are no documents on the right to immovable property. That is, if you wish, a raider seizure of Skolkovo’s territory itself, as well as of all the facilities built here, can be carried out by anyone and anytime, and, most surprisingly, that this is entirely possible, because there are no documents - no rights ...

And they also found affiliated companies that, under the auspices of Skolkovo, were entitled to preferential taxation, while at the same time doing their business exclusively, which are incredibly far from scientific breakthroughs. Found gross violations in budgeting, in the allocation of funding. Tens of billions of rubles went to an unknown destination just a few kilometers from the Moscow Ring Road.

On the basis of the collected materials, the Prosecutor General’s Office issues a submission to Viktor Vekselberg (president of the foundation) in which he demands to compensate for the damage caused to the state, fill in the gaps in the work of the “innograd” and bring the perpetrators to disciplinary responsibility. In addition, the two vice-presidents of Skolkovo were reprimanded for quoting: “inadequate organizational leadership.”

Questions: why only to disciplinary responsibility, and why only reprimands? Billions flowed to the left, and here, you understand, reprimands ... And where are the criminal cases, or doesn’t terry theft of the people's money for them? Or it turns out that there was no theft, and all the money is working for the good of the country and each of its citizens?

Surprisingly, against the background of a grandiose scandal associated with the disclosure of massive violations in Skolkovo, the government extends the funding of the fund to 2020 year. The amount is impressive - 135,6 billion rubles. That is where the previous hundred billions went, no one can explain, but for some reason it took to allocate more and more ... Some kind of budget masochism - no other way.

In this regard, representatives of the General Prosecutor's Office say the threat of misuse of budgetary funds in the future. Well, the threat is really obvious, as obvious and the threat that many of the people responsible for the Skolkovo project will come out of the water after the violations revealed, explaining all the spending by “non-standard approaches” in the “innovative economy”.
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  1. +23
    1 November 2013 09: 09
    In this regard, representatives of the General Prosecutor's Office say the threat of misuse of budgetary funds in the future. Well, the threat is really obvious, as obvious and the threat that many of the people responsible for the Skolkovo project will come out of the water after the violations revealed, explaining all the spending by “non-standard approaches” in the “innovative economy”.

    Oboronservis part two.
    1. +24
      1 November 2013 09: 46
      There, Israel in Syria again fucked ....... well, this is what I mean. Give a fucking on Skolkovo, so that there would be no stone on the stone. Well, how else do I not know, it doesn’t work out differently request
      1. +1
        1 November 2013 13: 49
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Give a fucking on Skolkovo

        Sasha, don’t, we have there in a row, a little later ... laughing
      2. Walker1975
        +11
        1 November 2013 14: 13
        I don’t understand this Skolkovo at all. Silicon Valley in California was based at the Stanford Technology Park, the largest science and education center. What is Skolkovo based on? Where did all these people come from? Who works there and on the basis of what receives such amounts?

        In Silicon Valley, the headquarters of many technology companies located at various times on the Fortune 1000 list are located, including:
        Adobe
        AMD
        Agilent (Eng. Agilent Technologies)
        Apple Lossless Audio CODEC (ALAC),
        Altera
        Applied Materials
        BEA Systems (acquired by Oracle)
        Cisco
        eBay
        Electronic Arts
        Google
        Hewlett-Packard
        Intel
        Intuit Inc. (English Intuit)
        Maxtor (absorbed by Seagate Technology)
        NetApp
        National Semiconductor
        Nvidia
        Oracle
        Sun Microsystems (acquired by Oracle)
        SanDisk
        Symantec
        Yahoo!
        Xerox

        Everyone knows them. Their incomes are such that the California economy provides US GDP as more than half of Russia's entire GDP. And who lives in Skolkovo and what produces?
        1. +10
          1 November 2013 18: 52
          Rogues live, make bubbles.
          1. 0
            2 November 2013 08: 00
            And the iPhone is running it
    2. Fin
      +17
      1 November 2013 10: 19
      Quote: pv1005
      Oboronservis part two.

      Serdyukov with his Oboronservis is like tying laundry in the attic.
      Note
      that for the entire time of Skolkovo’s work, a little more than a half percent of all those “desks” and “desks” with which “Innograd” cooperates was checked on the fact of targeted use of funds. That is, spending 99,5% of the funds allocated from the state budget - from the funds of millions of Russian taxpayers, no one was going to control at all ...

      The bastards are completely insolent.
      1. +8
        1 November 2013 10: 34
        and the circuits are all old

        "And they also found affiliated companies that, under the auspices of Skolkovo, obtained the right to preferential taxation, while at the same time doing their business exclusively"

        such were used in the early 90s. even here they did not make a nano-breakthrough. no "scientific" discoveries - just banal theft of especially large ones.
        1. +3
          1 November 2013 10: 47
          540 thousand rubles per second

          I got the following figure per year: 17 975 520 000 0 rubles

          FOOT!
          1. +3
            1 November 2013 11: 13
            Quote: LaGlobal
            I got the following figure per year: 17 975 520 000 0 rubles

            The article is about the commercial and its prices. What 17 trillion. Do you even read the article, and then count.
            1. +2
              1 November 2013 11: 26
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The article is about the commercial and its prices. What 17 trillion. Do you even read the article, and then count.


              Alexander! I liked the title of the article. And I figured how much they steal ...

              - even from the first sentence it is clear that the estimate of this commercial is overstated ...

              Well, I didn’t read the article completely feel
              - now I need to be stabbed am
              1. 0
                1 November 2013 12: 16
                Quote: LaGlobal
                Alexander! I liked the title of the article. And I figured how much they steal ...

                They don’t steal so much, even theoretically.
                Quote: LaGlobal
                Well, I didn’t read the article completely. Feel
                - now I need to be stabbed

                Putting you on a count is an offer on your part or a question? Please clarify wink
                1. +4
                  1 November 2013 14: 42
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Putting you on a count is an offer on your part or a question?


                  this is a rhetorical question. Can we go to "YOU"? drinks
                  PS I accept any criticism quite calmly. Because not perfect recourse
            2. +14
              1 November 2013 11: 28
              ANY SKOLKOVO WILL BE DOED TO FAIL. It is impossible to effectively create innovative industries from above. This is possible only in a planned-administrative, not a market economy. On the basis of the Soviet "sharazhek" Skolkovo would work for you, but in a market economy this is just profanity and the development of the budget under a beautiful sign. Create conditions for knowledge-intensive enterprises, exempt from taxes, abolish useless services such as firefighting and phytosanitary supervision for everyone, simplify or remove the bureaucracy, and you will be fine ...
          2. +1
            1 November 2013 21: 42
            for someone it’s a huge amount, but for someone it’s just pocket money.
      2. 0251
        +5
        1 November 2013 11: 44
        Not a word that have become insolent. Skolkovo was created under the auspices of D. Medvedev, and he also allocated these billions, but he is not even mentioned. It’s amazing why only disciplinary actions were taken, and why only reprimands? Billions have flowed into obscurity - where are the criminal cases and landings on hard bunks. This case is worse than the Khodorkovsky case at one time. Will everything really be forgotten and forgotten, as they are trying to hush up the case of Oboronservis and the Ministry of Defense as a whole.
        1. Walker1975
          +2
          1 November 2013 14: 18
          Quote: 0251
          It is surprising why only disciplined, and why only reprimands?


          And you did not know that the more you steal, the less responsibility? Steal 10000 rubles and you, if you get caught, are guaranteed to be dragged by the guys into the house, where the sky is in the box. Steal 1 rubles and share ... so they will give you the same amount.
      3. 0251
        +3
        1 November 2013 11: 45
        Not a word that have become insolent. Skolkovo was created under the auspices of D. Medvedev, and he also allocated these billions, but he is not even mentioned. It’s amazing why only disciplinary actions were taken, and why only reprimands? Billions have flowed into obscurity - where are the criminal cases and landings on hard bunks. This case is worse than the Khodorkovsky case at one time. Will everything really be forgotten and forgotten, as they are trying to hush up the case of Oboronservis and the Ministry of Defense as a whole.
    3. +5
      1 November 2013 11: 58
      Interesting:
      In Skolkovo, at least one scientist is not an economist?
      1. +1
        1 November 2013 19: 02
        Quote: APES
        In Skolkovo, at least one scientist is not an economist?

        I will answer you as an eyewitness. There is nothing there, only ONE building is in operation, several are under construction, there is NO scientific activity at all. But there is just a shaft of money, people do not know how to justify such huge sums that they cannot "master". For example, a certain job costs 500 rubles. There they pay 000 for it, that is, 5 times more.
  2. +26
    1 November 2013 09: 09
    Tens of billions of rubles went unknown
    They stole it again ...
    And Skolkovo has already become a hero of jokes
    It’s clear whose school nano the thief macro steals
    1. +21
      1 November 2013 09: 12
      Skolkovo is the brainchild of Dimon. In vain you hang this on Chubais, for him there are enough of your stocks. But Chubais’s ideological inspirer of this theft is most likely.
      1. Hon
        +23
        1 November 2013 09: 22
        Quote: Canep
        Kolkovo - the brainchild of Dimon. In vain you hang this on Chubais, for him there are enough of your stocks. But Chubais’s ideological inspirer of this theft is most likely.

        I think Skolkovo, this is a collective work, the team has long been formed
        By the way, is it not Gozman on the left?
        Putin doesn’t leave his goddaughter without work ...
      2. +20
        1 November 2013 09: 24
        Well, Putin’s ideological protector of this Chubais and Dimon’s child
        1. +10
          1 November 2013 11: 11
          Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
          Well, Putin’s ideological protector of this Chubais and Dimon’s child

          Yes, the brainchild is still ...
          1. 0
            1 November 2013 21: 44
            remembered "cat's house"

            Goat said that at home there is not enough space.)))))
      3. +4
        1 November 2013 11: 42
        That you guys, we have no one to blame, these are tricks of nature, it's just that a new "Bermuda Triangle" - Skolkovo - has formed in our country, so the bastard sucks the grandmother.
    2. +6
      1 November 2013 10: 47
      As VVP said about him: "everyone has the right to make mistakes."
      1. +3
        1 November 2013 20: 38
        As VVP said about him: "everyone has the right to make mistakes."

    3. randomizer
      +1
      1 November 2013 10: 57
      It’s like in a famous sketch - In nanoscale nanoscale!
    4. +1
      1 November 2013 17: 36
      And Vekselberg?!? With his condition? When are these ghouls pumped already ???
      1. +4
        1 November 2013 20: 25
        Quote: Veteran's grandson
        When are these ghouls pumped already ???


        Never.
        They are, according to Freud, stuck at the oral level of development.
        Life began with a sucking reflex and will end their life.
        You can stop this process in only one way, sew up your mouth ...... and perhaps pinch your nose.
  3. +10
    1 November 2013 09: 13
    SKOLKOVO Mdaa - SERDYUKOV seems to be nervously smoking away with his female battalion here (both the scope and speed and scale of the manipulations with our budget are impressive)
    1. +10
      1 November 2013 09: 21
      Corruption Olympiad! When is the finish?
      1. +4
        1 November 2013 09: 36
        Quote: stroitel
        When is the finish?

        In my opinion, obviously. One of two things: either the repetition of 1917 with the subsequent end of the 1930s, or when there will be nothing to steal. Which option do you prefer?
        1. +12
          1 November 2013 09: 49
          Quote: Ribwort
          when there’s nothing to steal.

          ALREADY nothing to steal, therefore, they climbed into the pension fund, and introduce limits on light-water.
          1. 0
            1 November 2013 10: 50
            in Krasnoyarsk social norms have been introduced for 5 years already, nothing extraordinary happens
            1. +2
              1 November 2013 19: 23
              Quote: bddrus
              in Krasnoyarsk social norms have been introduced for 5 years already, nothing extraordinary happens

              First, what’s good about it?
              Secondly, what norms do you have?
              Thirdly, literally sitting at the Krasnoyarsk hydroelectric power station, how much do they save on household consumption and for whom?
              1. 0
                2 November 2013 09: 08
                - and what's wrong? to make the rate cheaper than the usual price - or is it better for you to pay everything on the upper bar?
                It’s hard for me to say about norms myself - I’m crying through the Internet and don’t delve too much - something like 300 or 400 kW / h for a family, and in rubles a month it also turns out.
                Savings for whom are you considering? and how does proximity to hydroelectric power affect consumption? Thanks to the hydroelectric power station, our price is lower than in other regions. People are taught to save - otherwise the bulbs burn around the clock, water runs - it seems like small amounts, but they are thrown away just like that.
                Although we honestly say, we do not learn to save - water still runs))
                1. +3
                  2 November 2013 12: 02
                  I'll make a reservation right away, the "minus" is not mine. But in essence:
                  Quote: bddrus
                  - and what's wrong? to make the rate cheaper than the usual price - or is it better for you to pay everything on the upper bar?

                  We are then offered such a limit, which is enough for the consumption of one refrigerator, everything else - at "magic" inflated tariffs.
                  Quote: bddrus
                  Savings for whom are you considering?

                  But I asked you about this. Well, apparently for the oligarchs, even if at dumping prices, they would push China.
                  Quote: bddrus
                  People are taught to save - otherwise the bulbs burn around the clock, water runs - it seems like small amounts, but they are thrown away just like that.

                  Light bulbs and thin streams, this is such a minuscule, compared with those underground rivers that exist because of dilapidated communications. Believe me.
                  1. +1
                    2 November 2013 12: 13
                    we are 4 people - either 75, or 100 per one, the children are small because the washings are permanent, I think consumption can hardly be called economical because of this, but we have enough limits.
                    It is precisely because we have long been living with social norms, that is, we have experience in this, I don’t understand the constant cries about the horrors of social norms
                    1. 0
                      2 November 2013 21: 30
                      + + + + + + good
                      This is for small children and for what is enough. Come on.
                      1. 0
                        3 November 2013 08: 23
                        thank. True, I have only two)) for the third, it’s kind of old already - I won’t have time to grow up to retirement winked
        2. Thunderbolt
          +2
          1 November 2013 10: 48
          There’s nothing to steal already, so we’re waiting for 2017 ... well, so that the date would be round) and go!
        3. 0
          1 November 2013 22: 56
          Definitely the first. In addition, until the 17th for a short time, only three years.
      2. +17
        1 November 2013 09: 39
        And you add up the total damage. Serdyukov is Putin's child. Dima is the child of Putin, the 2014 Olympics (and there, too, "theft will suddenly be revealed"), the World Cup are also "kids". And the visible author of all this is one-GDP. But is it just a true author? Rather, a "group of like-minded people".
        1. +3
          2 November 2013 00: 26
          Quote: 505506
          Olympiad 2014 (and there, too, "theft will suddenly be revealed")
          This is creepy if true:
      3. Thunderbolt
        +2
        1 November 2013 11: 07
        When the finish line will begin, the revolution and civil war will begin! Let us comrades, do not wait for this "finish" but stop looting in the state now!
        1. Drosselmeyer
          +7
          1 November 2013 13: 29
          In 20-30 years there will be a finish. These people will pack their bags and leave, some closer to the crying wall, some to London. And the Russian people (or rather, what remains of it) will remain on the ashes in the desert, among the ruins, surrounded by tolerant southern neighbors.
          There will be enough riot police in power for all revolutions.
      4. +1
        2 November 2013 08: 15
        When the 17th comes or when God resurrects the Visarion ...
    2. 0
      1 November 2013 09: 53
      And it's true. It's not even so clear as in Min. Defense. There is money, "there are ideas" - there is no money, and there is no one to ask.
      1. +5
        1 November 2013 10: 38
        "Corruption Olympics! When is the finish line?"

        they themselves will not stop. again, ordinary people will have to stop. it's time to understand - the moon-faced is not Stalin, and will not even become his shadow.
  4. +8
    1 November 2013 09: 14
    If we would like to support fundamental science, it would be worth investing in our traditional science cities. But that was not the goal. We cannot make our own "Silicon Valley" (except for Rublyovka with the "pumped-up" wives of oligarchs and others). The business mentality is not the same, and we have competitive advantages in other areas. And "nano-light bulbs" are, excuse me, miserable even from the point of view of populism to cover the withdrawal of money ...
  5. Corporal
    +15
    1 November 2013 09: 17
    The situation is almost like with Snowden. He tells things that all who are friends with the head, and so knew. Everyone immediately starts to gasp, resent and lament.

    So it is here. Everyone knew Skolkovo was a thief feeder, another Russian misfortune, and here is the news! Skolkovo - a feeder for thieves !!! Suddenly.

    Bastards.
  6. +22
    1 November 2013 09: 21
    Enough for Putin to do nonsense. Do not sit on the throne with Dimon - will soon be asked to make room _TIRED TO PLEASURE.
    1. +7
      1 November 2013 10: 39
      Quote: os9165
      - will soon be asked to make room _NADOLE TO VOMIN.

      One problem, the one who comes instead of Putin and doesn’t have time to get tired, we’ll be all out.
      1. +4
        1 November 2013 11: 09
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the one who comes instead of Putin and doesn’t have time to get tired, we’ll lose everything

        Where such confidence? Apparently, based on the understanding that when all funds have been stolen by the previous government, numerous debt obligations have been signed that need to be fulfilled (it is no secret that contracts for natural resources are signed already at the stage of their development for years to come), when the safety margin of what else somehow it works, the country has come to an end and is on the verge of a technological catastrophe, the new government will simply have no choice but to save hard, including on social programs, salaries and so on. Make clearly not popular decisions. That is yes. Only after all, this will happen regardless of who comes to power after Putin and Co, and the prerequisites for this are created by the CURRENT government.
        1. +8
          1 November 2013 11: 15
          Quote: Ribwort
          Why such confidence?

          I see those who dream of becoming president. What is called, God forbid!
          1. +4
            1 November 2013 11: 33
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I see those who dream of becoming president. What is called, God forbid!

            And others, I think, will not let us "see". But this does not mean that they cannot exist in principle.
            1. +1
              1 November 2013 12: 17
              Quote: Ribwort
              . But this does not mean that they cannot be in principle.

              From the series, you see the gopher, no, but he is wink
        2. Hon
          0
          1 November 2013 17: 19
          Quote: Ribwort
          Where such confidence? Apparently, based on the understanding that when all funds have been stolen by the previous government, numerous debt obligations have been signed that need to be fulfilled (it is no secret that contracts for natural resources are signed already at the stage of their development for years to come), when the safety margin of what else somehow it works, the country has come to an end and is on the verge of a technological catastrophe, the new government will simply have no choice but to save hard, including on social programs, salaries and so on. Make clearly not popular decisions. That is yes. Only after all, this will happen regardless of who comes to power after Putin and Co, and the prerequisites for this are created by the CURRENT government.


          Unfortunately, but most likely Alexander Romanov is right. The fact is that in most cases, one freak is replaced by others, and usually worse. Fortunately, no revolution has been observed in Russia, so Putin can continue to feed Chubais.
      2. 0
        1 November 2013 23: 01
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        One problem, the one who comes instead of Putin and doesn’t have time to get tired, we’ll be all out.


        The answer from the 17th: "All power - to the Soviets!"
        1. 0
          4 November 2013 22: 53
          Shit, minus. I am sharply correcting myself: "All power to the President!"
          1. 0
            4 November 2013 22: 56
            Quote: Passer
            Shit, minus. I am sharply correcting myself: "All power to the President!"

            I corrected the minus affixed to you and I'm interested in what you write this time ?! laughing

            As I understand it, either you will rise sharply up, by rating or flat down, laughing time will tell. winked
    2. Eugeniy_369
      +1
      1 November 2013 12: 53
      Quote: os9165
      TIRED TO PLEASURE.

      I do not argue with this, but as they said in one film - "It would not work out bad ..." As if instead of theft and lawlessness, we did not receive the same clothes and food stamps. I'm not afraid, but I read somewhere that there is a chance that a real dictatorship of one person may come on the wave of protests against the current government (now I think authoritarian autocracy). But I emphasize, this is my subjective wink .
      "God forbid you to live during changes ..." (c).
      1. +3
        1 November 2013 23: 23
        Quote: Eugeniy_369
        "God forbid you to live during changes ..." (c).


        And what time do we live?
        Every day I observe changes, and very many of them, but almost all, are not for the better. In this case, it is only audible: -It would only get worse ... or: -Well, this one has stolen ...
        Since 1985, perestroika has been going on, reforms have been going on for 20 years, at every stage it seemed that it couldn’t be any worse, but the government didn’t stop surprising us, it turns out it might.
        It’s time to start looking at everything realistically: under the current government, it will not get any better, or worse, yes. They are working on it.
    3. 0
      1 November 2013 21: 45
      what Do you think the one who comes will not steal? He also wants to feel like a real king))
  7. +12
    1 November 2013 09: 23
    But, there are initiatives, as there is no money in the budget:
    Maternity capital cancel.
    Free education to remove.
    Preschool education to pay.
    Jews rule in our government.
    1. 0
      1 November 2013 10: 08
      Where does the money for all of the above "nonsense" come from, if we are more likely to implement such projects as:
      OBORONEXPORT
      SERDYUKOV AND COMP
      SUMMIT APEC
      SOCHI 2014
      SKOLKOVO
      Well, a lot of things even less ambitious about which they do not speak much.
      1. 0
        1 November 2013 23: 25
        Quote: pv1005
        Where is the money for all this "nonsense"

        Oil, gas, etc.
    2. +6
      1 November 2013 10: 11
      You see, non-Jewish Jews in government allow themselves everything WE allow them!
      1. +2
        1 November 2013 19: 07
        And kickbacks in the same Skolkovo give just the Russian and other nationalities of Russia.
  8. +9
    1 November 2013 09: 24
    Rzhu nimagu. "Employees of the Prosecutor General's Office came to the conclusion that" .... Fuck it ....
    It is a shame to live in a country in which the population is kept by the herd, to which one can say that it is "bred" and at the same time just watch how it is indignant. You will see how Vekselberg will again be on the air of Vesti 24 to convince that they overlooked and honestly promise that "more than once." Maybe even PU will say something on the occasion. But they will keep on fucking ...
  9. Nikor
    +1
    1 November 2013 09: 32
    Yes, and so it was all clear, the question is different what to do about it? P
    1. Thunderbolt
      +2
      1 November 2013 10: 50
      Look into the history books - there are cribs all hidden
    2. +1
      1 November 2013 12: 03
      Pave the corpses of corrupt officials the road to a brighter future.
  10. Valery Neonov
    +4
    1 November 2013 09: 38
    "... why only to disciplinary responsibility, and why only reprimands? Billions flowed to the left, and here, you know, reprimands ..."-the answer is simple:"The work is going on constructively with the Prosecutor General's Office and the Accounts Chamber. We have no plans to take any action," said Dvorkovich, a member of the Skolkovo Board of Trustees..What else to say ... That there is no truth in Russia (in Russia!), So for IT DOES NOT SECRET US ... Ugh ... recourse request
    1. Thunderbolt
      +2
      1 November 2013 10: 51
      In-in ... "reprimands" ... Koba they would for this ... am
  11. +1
    1 November 2013 09: 41
    "The threat of misuse of budget funds" is the latest innovative invention in the field of legal terminology. So, you shouldn't scold Skolkovo in vain. Still, something is being done. Expensive, though, but new things are not cheap.
    1. +3
      1 November 2013 10: 02
      Quote: Stinger
      A little expensive, though, but a new one is not cheap.

      A little expensive This is not the right word!
      Quote: Stinger
      Something is still being done.

      And what exactly is being done there?
      Quote: Stinger
      So, that should not be blamed Skolkovo in vain.

      Why scold something? Blow it up, smash it into atoms at the latest from the field of nanotechnology, without a trace. Preferably together with staff and managers.
      1. +2
        1 November 2013 10: 40
        "What exactly is being done there?"

        new terms laughing

        "The threat of misuse of budget funds" is the latest innovative invention in the field of legal terminology.
  12. +6
    1 November 2013 09: 48
    Skolkovo, the Olympics, the World Cup ... All state projects are not that with a smell, but disgusting stink ...
  13. +5
    1 November 2013 09: 50
    If you want to ruin an innovative project, put it in the hands of officials. Medvedev tried a lot to create its own "Selikonovaya Valley" in Russia. We created Skolkovo, allocated huge funds and settled down. And off we go. Vultures have flocked to the small Skolkovo and let's shred taxpayers' money! Maybe the newly-minted "scientists" have invented something? No matter how it is. No miracle happened. "Skolkovo "is another black hole in the Russian economy. V.S. Chernomyrdin said: We wanted the best. but it turned out as always
    1. Drosselmeyer
      +2
      1 November 2013 13: 37
      You are mistaken, as you wanted, so it happened. By the way, why is Silicon Valley, like in the Russian translation Silicon Valley silicon -silicon?
      1. +1
        1 November 2013 20: 31
        It’s Silicon, and we have Silicone.
  14. Aubert
    +2
    1 November 2013 09: 52
    To the wall of reptiles
  15. +3
    1 November 2013 09: 53
    540 thousand rubles per second commercial
    one wants to exclaim - STOP THE INSTANT ...
    And to repeat the words of Zadorny, "for a long time, in all Russian villages, all ginger cats, grandmothers will be called" Chubais "..."
  16. +8
    1 November 2013 09: 55
    But it’s interesting to calculate how much money has been stolen since 2000, that is, under the Putin regime? You can’t take Yeltsin’s fight because he usually was lying around under the table, and he didn’t care. But since Putin’s first term, I’m I think the figure will be oooooochen big, they just don’t have enough just to rush money from the treasury, they now create all sorts of Skolkovo to make appearances and again steal, steal ... In short, Skolkovo is another disgrace of the authorities, which I don’t even know.
    1. +6
      1 November 2013 10: 29
      Quote: Standard Oil
      In short, Skolkovo is another disgrace to the authorities

      This is another power trough. And shame, unfortunately, is ours.
  17. +4
    1 November 2013 09: 57
    Skolkovo invented this, even if he keeps it on his own. In general, it was incomprehensible that he was created as a copy of a silicon valley, but there are no private funds there only once. They gave money for promotion and enough to earn yourself and return what was invested. Remove state funding.
    1. Misantrop
      +1
      1 November 2013 10: 32
      Quote: morpogr
      created as a copy of silicone valley
      ... and since they were created by the ignorant media that listened to, they created a kind of "silicone imitator". lol It looks beautiful, in appearance - like a real one. Just use as intended does not work request
      1. +8
        1 November 2013 10: 37
        Come on, it was "Silicon Valley" that we did quite well.

        Translation errors are evident. "Silicon Valley" is engaged in innovations among Americans. And "Silicon" - pornography.
  18. Valery Neonov
    +2
    1 November 2013 09: 58
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    Maybe the newly-minted "scientists" invented something

    And yet, some names of professions are worth something:
    multicurrency translator and broker of virtual and alternative currencies, personal brand manager, social translator of web and media content, online personal support specialist, virtual space administrator, cyber janitor (informational garbage cleaner), virtual handyman, GMO- agronomists, meteorological engineers, designers of smart spaces, experts on the image of the unborn child and developers of the family development path ... Stunned, people work (depict) ... go them on a swing. wassat
    1. kaktus
      0
      2 November 2013 15: 56
      Quote: Valery Neon
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Maybe the newly-minted "scientists" invented something

      And yet, some names of professions are worth something:
      multicurrency translator and broker of virtual and alternative currencies, personal brand manager, social translator of web and media content, online personal support specialist, virtual space administrator, cyber janitor (informational garbage cleaner), virtual handyman, GMO- agronomists, meteorological engineers, designers of smart spaces, experts on the image of the unborn child and developers of the family development path ... Stunned, people work (depict) ... go them on a swing. wassat

      ... and we, the fool, studied at engineers .. No.
  19. +7
    1 November 2013 10: 04
    We know who created skolkovo, for them innovation in corruption is the main task, it is necessary to improve and update methods.
  20. +5
    1 November 2013 10: 15
    Until there is a specific liability for damage caused by RUSSIA, they will steal. Let the year of the general regime without transfers and purchases in the restaurant, otherwise people give more for a bag of potatoes. Compensation for damage at least 2 times. And it turns out that what they do is not theft. but a way of life. Vote for ,,,,,,,,,,
  21. 0
    1 November 2013 10: 19
    Ordinary corruption, you need to decide what to do and not once again grind what bad bastards these corrupt officials. And the title of the article is so rzhachnoe)))
    1. 0
      1 November 2013 11: 12
      Ordinary corruption has simply become a bit too much for us, and the people are bored with the principle that the more he stole, the less he owes to the law, I would like a structure in power - ala judge Dredd, the execution of the sentence is also guilty.
      1. 0
        2 November 2013 15: 06
        parable: "when I was deprived of my driving license for overtaking in the wrong place - 100% !!! those to whom I told about it - answered -" And what did not agree on the spot? "Therefore, I am always amused by the Internet" righteous anger "of the" common people "type Unfortunately, those who sit higher are not better and not much worse than everyone else, no matter how much everyone here beats himself in the chest, that he is the most honest person and not like that, and that somewhere there are such magical people who will come to power honest and fair
  22. 0
    1 November 2013 10: 30
    A hotbed of large-scale theft of budget money! Well, they can’t steal there!
    1. Thunderbolt
      0
      1 November 2013 10: 52
      And in my opinion, few people in the state can NOT steal ...
  23. 0
    1 November 2013 10: 39
    It would be funny if it were not so sad.
  24. +15
    1 November 2013 10: 44
    Always amazed at the power, grandeur, untold wealth and greatness of Russia. Any other country, if there were so many thieves in the highest echelons of power, would have long ceased to exist as an independent state. And in Russia still rob and rob ...
    1. Walker1975
      +5
      1 November 2013 14: 23
      Is this an illustration for Ilf and Petrov "The Blue Thief"?
      1. +2
        1 November 2013 16: 43
        Quote: Walker1975
        Is this an illustration for Ilf and Petrov "The Blue Thief"?


        Not. When he was stealing, Alexander Yakovlevich was ashamed ...
  25. +4
    1 November 2013 10: 45
    This office was created for money laundering and is "covered" by the government. Had such a prosecutor's office been found in another organization, criminal cases would have been initiated long ago. So only anger takes and wants to spit. They would all be sent to the office in the zone, so that they would invent for a gruel (like that balo under Stalin) am
  26. +1
    1 November 2013 10: 54
    [quote =Same lech] SKOLKOVO Mdaa - SERDYUKOV seems to be nervously smoking here with his female battalion (and the scope and speed and scale of the manipulations with our budget are impressive) (quote)
    Not surprisingly, people from the scientific community are connected right there.
    So maybe this was the scientific experiment of Skolkovo specialists, in which it was necessary to study in detail a program called "How is the delay ... state funds?" - Sorry for the expression used.
    Scientists are studying this program intensively. Work in sweat (undercover)
    Innovative development! Whatever they do, but it turns out the same thing - theft in especially large ones.
  27. +4
    1 November 2013 10: 57
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    There, Israel in Syria again fucked ....... well, this is what I mean. Give a fucking on Skolkovo, so that there would be no stone on the stone. Well, how else do I not know, it doesn’t work out differently request


    Or maybe in Rublevka, Barvikha and Okhotny Ryad?
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  29. +2
    1 November 2013 10: 58
    If you look at the tax code, it turns out that our innovators from Skolkovo are exempt from almost all taxes (well, at least the most basic ones are VAT, profit, property, land). Moreover, this exemption applies not only to current periods but also to years in advance.
    They scored a tax haven for themselves.
    And they checked another company from Yekaterinburg that year (software development), so the chief accountant in a private conversation told how their director was bustling about everything in Skolkovo, wanted to open some kind of project, so they sent it in plain text.
    That's interesting - they still understand that the project was created for specific people who are engaged in business called "withdrawing money from the budget." Just like the Sochi Olympics.
    They will take a good idea, against which the population, as it were, should not be very indignant and begin to scoop up public funds with terrible force.
    Now the news has gone that Gazprom and St. Petersburg again want to apply for the Olympics in St. Petersburg.
    How much can you endure this mockery?
  30. ed65b
    +2
    1 November 2013 11: 00
    I have a strong belief that at the top a competition has been announced who is more than a sp .. Putin hey, wake up from your sleep soon you will explode.
    1. +9
      1 November 2013 11: 14
      Quote: ed65b
      Putin hey, wake up from your sleep soon you will explode.

      Nothing will explode with him. As long as there is a contingent of citizens who believe that if not Putin, then it is obviously worse, everything will be fine with him. The competition will continue.
    2. Walker1975
      +3
      1 November 2013 14: 25
      And Putin in these competitions is a judge out of competition. Everyone unfastens him, who does not want to follow the stage for Khodarkovsky or emigrate for Berezovsky.
  31. +1
    1 November 2013 11: 12
    three videos with a total duration of 1 minute 40 seconds, amounted to 54 million rubles

    So after all, always proximity to the sovereign feeder was the safest place, and there you could always snatch a piece, fatter. Words are not only emotions. There is a suggestion
    Quote: Aubert
    To the wall of reptiles

    fully support.
  32. 0
    1 November 2013 11: 22
    Eh, there is no master in the house, no!
  33. 0
    1 November 2013 11: 23
    Eh, there is no master in the house, no!
    Already "mice are not caught" wassat .
  34. +1
    1 November 2013 11: 59
    I think the migrants are to blame for the Caucasus as well))))) Ah no, it turns out there are still a bunch of other people who poke money worse)))) So where are the popular gatherings with the defeat of Skolkovo))
    1. +3
      1 November 2013 12: 25
      Quote: Yeraz
      I think the migrants are to blame for the Caucasus as well))))) Ah no, it turns out there are still a bunch of other people who poke money worse)))) So where are the popular gatherings with the defeat of Skolkovo))

      What are the gatherings with the defeat of Skolkovo? Skolkovo and similar projects were created for the legal diversion of budgetary money and are reliably covered by the projects "migrants" and "Caucasus", to which the people's discontent will be redirected if the safety valve breaks.
  35. +2
    1 November 2013 12: 12
    Skolkovo is not only a hotbed of theft, but also a center of sophisticated, refined, I would say, struggle with the Russian population of the country.

    In Skolkovo, the now actively advertised cough medicine was developed "Kagocel". The basis of the drug is a certain substance (I did not mention the name), which has a pronounced spermicidal property. The use of Kagocel made on the basis of this substance gradually and confidently stops the process of spermatogenesis in the body of a man.

    I am not a doctor, I can not answer for the accuracy of the information. I can only say where I got this information:

    Doctor Myasnikov took part in one of the October programs on Radio Vesti (V. Solovyov's morning program "Full Contact"), and he answered questions from radio listeners. One of the callers asked a question, is it true that such a Skolkovo creation was released on the Russian drug market that makes men barren? Dr. Myasnikov answered in the affirmative, accompanying your answer with a phrase like: "Well, you hawala everything you advertise ..."
  36. 0
    1 November 2013 12: 25
    BEFORE reading the post by vadimN, I was sure that Skolkovo was just a channel for the legal withdrawal of dough and the declared "alternative way of financing non-profit organizations", and then it turns out that it is not at all sterile, it turns out that it has fruits, though they are not for everybody.
  37. Romanychby
    +2
    1 November 2013 12: 25
    It is a pity for the common people, who are presented as a laughing stock in front of the whole world. Scat in the eyes and they say God's dew. MedvePutin himself needs to be "soaked in the outhouse"!
  38. 0
    1 November 2013 12: 26
    I’m wondering, who on behalf of the government oversees this office? I have to ask this. And then I get the feeling that they’re exploring not high-tech opportunities, but how long the people’s patience will last.
  39. 0
    1 November 2013 12: 28
    Quote: aszzz888
    A hotbed of large-scale theft of budget money! Well, they can’t steal there!

    This is an invincible system. People who got into it live in another dimension. The money stream beats them all thoughts. The provision obliges one to discuss state affairs, and the jet of peace does not give. How can one stay here if this is so customary in this system. Moreover, nothing happens for this.
  40. +2
    1 November 2013 12: 33
    Let Vekselberg in Skolkovo. Is it better to goat in the garden?
    1. ed65b
      +1
      1 November 2013 14: 09
      Quote: Budilnik
      Let Vekselberg in Skolkovo. Is it better to goat in the garden?

      And he is in the garden.
    2. ed65b
      0
      1 November 2013 14: 10
      Quote: Budilnik
      Let Vekselberg in Skolkovo. Is it better to goat in the garden?

      And he is in the garden.
    3. ed65b
      +1
      1 November 2013 14: 11
      Quote: Budilnik
      Let Vekselberg in Skolkovo. Is it better to goat in the garden?

      And he is in the garden.
  41. +1
    1 November 2013 12: 35
    come out of the water, explaining all the costs of “non-standard approaches” in the “innovative economy”.

    Very standard ...
  42. +4
    1 November 2013 12: 46
    You can guess ... Comrade Viktor Vekselberg is not at work ... steal subordinates ... classic !!!
  43. stroporez
    +4
    1 November 2013 12: 55
    well ................... whoever wants to hear about the "social orientation of the Russian state". ???????????
  44. +6
    1 November 2013 14: 05
    As a person who has been to 3 SKOLKOVO facilities, I WILL TELL YOU !!!!!
    ALL THESE ANOTHER FLOWERS !!!!!!!!! a huge territory has been allocated for the project and half of the objects have not yet been built !!! you can safely multiply everything that is now stolen by 5,10, where your appetite will go !!! So you can wait and an even greater increase in taxes))) otherwise it will not be enough.
    So THAT SAY THANKS TO THE “MOST POWERFUL” person in Europe. FOR SUCH PROJECTS! crying
    1. ed65b
      +6
      1 November 2013 14: 10
      Quote: spirit
      So THAT SAY THANKS TO THE “MOST POWERFUL” person in Europe. FOR SUCH PROJECTS!

      Keep above the WORLD.
  45. +2
    1 November 2013 15: 10
    Silicone Ura.
  46. stranik72
    +2
    1 November 2013 15: 54
    Someone still doubts that we are ruled by organized crime groups whose goal of personal well-being has already been such in Russian history, remember the Grand Dukes led by Nikolai No. 2, how it ended, we remember, only Stalin doesn’t see anything, I'm afraid the thing will end, the collapse of Russia already on the borders of regions and republics.
  47. +3
    1 November 2013 16: 35
    After the collapse of the USSR, several modern academic campuses with a good scientific base remained in Russia. University graduates under their authority overseas. They have nothing to do with us, no demand. After all, these are young talented future scientists. But our liberal Westerners are better at organizing something incomprehensible with the invitation of foreigners and as a result:
    Surprisingly, against the background of a grandiose scandal associated with the disclosure of massive violations in Skolkovo, the government extends the funding of the fund to 2020 year. The amount is impressive - 135,6 billion rubles. That is where the previous hundred billions went, no one can explain, but for some reason it took to allocate more and more ... Some kind of budget masochism - no other way.

    In spite of the scandal, the financing is extended in order to "saw" the budget again and again, without stopping at anything. As much as possible, are you really not "tired" of the antics of the "main nanorenter" with "modest" needs.
  48. 0
    1 November 2013 17: 13
    As long as one of the "friends" feeds on these projects, they will live and bring only losses to the state.
  49. +1
    1 November 2013 17: 45
    Quote: Starfish
    and the circuits are all old
    Quote: x.andvlad
    This is an invincible system. People who got into it live in another dimension.

    But the CONTROL is effective! Not their own grandmothers, but state ones! The difference is huge! Now, if the State did the same with the MANAGEMENT and "personal money", then there would be no trace of the budget. Why is this happening? Because under Dzhugashvili they knew the REAL price of LABOR, and now, at best, many "effective" handlers have corns from a barbell from a fitness club, that's why they don't realize the real cost of money. It would be necessary to practice fees for such managers, on which to attract them to real work, so that they remember or - find out WHAT IT IS - to work with handles: to grow bread, build a house, etc. etc. And most importantly - no indulgences after a "working day", such as "rubbed corn - well, go lie down." And no jacuzzi after. Now, if once a year a high-ranking manager is sent to SUCH fees, then maybe understanding will come to some extent !? request And then the impression is that we live on different planets. Words are no longer enough to express your emotions, some "expressions"!
    Impunity - Lawlessness Amazes!
  50. 0
    1 November 2013 17: 56
    <<< And there were also cases established by the Prosecutor General's Office when money was "loaned" (without interest at all) to some strange companies, the owners and co-owners of which were persons at the top of the "innograd" management.
    More than one and a half billion rubles went to a company that didn’t even apply for participation in a cooperation project with Skolkovo. That is, they gave money to the “uncle,” whom, judging by the reports, no one had ever seen anywhere before, and who just walked by, hardly imagining what kind of “Skolkovo” it was ... Passed by, and then - get a grant ! You can’t even sign the receipt ... That is, spending 99,5% of the financial resources allocated from the state budget - from the funds of millions of Russian taxpayers, nobody was going to control at all ... Surprisingly, against the backdrop of a grandiose scandal related to the disclosure of mass violations in Skolkovo (no one can explain where the previous hundred billion went), the government extends fund financing until 2020. The amount is impressive - 135,6 billion rubles.
    What is it: negligence, carelessness or the height of disregard for the national and state interests - a kind of corrupt rudeness, which is raised to a degree. >>>
    Just dumbfounded take from the SUPER-INSPECTION of what all this thieves' NANO scum does not fear anyone and nothing! And since ALL THIS continues quietly, a natural question arises to our main Guarantor of the Constitution and the fighter against corruption (it seems to be useless to contact the main founder and curator of Skolkovo, probably he is "in the subject" and does not see anything reprehensible in this) - HOW MUCH will this continue and is there any body in Russia today (the Prosecutor General's Office, it seems, does not have enough power) or an official capable of STOPPING this, in fact, brazen frank thieves' UNLIMITATION ?!
  51. +2
    1 November 2013 18: 03
    If you “pick” all sorts of “science cities” and “research and production clusters” that a team of “effective” managers have spawned for the “inappropriate” use of funds, then it will become quite “fun”. However, no one is going to cover up these thieves' shops. And also, if you go in and take a good look at the “Olympics”, all sorts of “summits”, “meetings” and other PR games so beloved by Mr. Pu, then..... crying Russia is still “rising from its knees.” Yeah. It seems like some of her personalities were brought to her knees and fucked, fucked...
  52. +1
    1 November 2013 18: 13
    Recently, Putin released news that put me in a state of shock. It turns out that of all the convicted corrupt officials, only 8% received actual sentences, the rest received probation or fines, which, it turns out, no one has yet paid, “taking advantage of loopholes in the law” .And the guarantor also said: “When we liberalized legislation, introducing fines for corruption-related crimes, we hoped that corrupt officials would awaken their conscience.” CONSCIENCE! Yes, they don’t know such a word! And why not steal in such situations? Where are we going? ?
    1. Yarosvet
      +1
      1 November 2013 22: 11
      Quote: kosopooz77
      Recently Putin released news that shocked me...

      we hoped that the corrupt officials would awaken their conscience

      Politicians and KGB officers are very naive people, and if a politician is a former KGB officer, that’s just naivety itself laughing
  53. soldier's grandson
    0
    1 November 2013 18: 21
    [quote=x.andvlad][quote=Same lech] SKOLKOVO Mdaa - SERDYUKOV seems to be nervously smoking here with his female battalion (and the scope and speed and scale of the manipulations with our budget are impressive) (quote)
    Not surprisingly, people from the scientific community are connected right there.
    So maybe this was the scientific experiment of Skolkovo specialists, in which it was necessary to study in detail a program called "How is the delay ... state funds?" - Sorry for the expression used.
    Scientists are studying this program intensively. Work in sweat (undercover)
    Innovative development! No matter what you do, it turns out the same thing - theft in especially large cases.[/quote]
    Serdyukov is there now in this Skolkovo and works, why should he smoke on the sidelines? He will again be innocent
  54. +1
    1 November 2013 18: 22
    Where are we going? It's clear where. In Russia, honestly working people are beggars, and honest businessmen (who do not violate the law) do not exist at all. There are no legal social and business elevators based on fair competition in the country. Only “connections” ensure career advancement. Only unprincipled theft brings prosperity. The morality cultivated by the media and in society in general is “Be rich at any cost! If you don’t become rich, you’re trash, useless to anyone!” Here is the result.
  55. +2
    1 November 2013 18: 31
    Moral: to get rich, it’s not your brains that matter, but the presidential “roof”, since it’s not ’37. But when this year comes, the most talkative visitors to sites like ours will go to trample places not so remote.
    1. 0
      1 November 2013 20: 28
      Quote: Dimy4
      But when this year comes, the most talkative visitors to sites like ours will go to trample places not so remote.

      That's it.
  56. +5
    1 November 2013 18: 49
    Well, were you indignant?... did you indicate your anger and indignation at what was happening?
    Well, this is where it all ends - as they stole, they will continue to do so, starting from Vekselberg, ending with the last clerk at Oskolkovo... and they didn’t care about justice (the law, Putin, the people, morality - substitute what you need yourself) because the country’s budget is these "comrades" have long been associated with OWN pocket.
    They don’t care about angry posts on the Internet, Putin’s threatening finger, and even the order of the Russian Prosecutor’s Office.

    Z.Y. I’m also surprised at the prosecutor’s office - they steal money (essentially) in the billions, and they ask the leadership to accept the “fragmentation” DISCIPLINARY measures against violators. Damn what country do I live in?!...

    It’s high time, as my father said, “to shoot and hang through one... shoot one and hang the other.”
    1. -1
      1 November 2013 20: 18
      Quote: fero
      It’s high time, as my father said, “to shoot and hang through one... shoot one and hang the other.”

      And those who will be authorized to shoot and hang will be the most corrupt officials. They will take bribes from those who have money. And the plan for executions and gallows will be carried out at the expense of those who cannot pay off (for example, at the expense of you and your friends). They will report to the top about the fulfillment and overfulfillment of the plan. They will receive medals and be washed at a corporate event.
      At the same time, they will definitely make the right toasts for the fight against corruption.
      And whoever did not understand this did not understand anything. He doesn’t know today’s Russia at all.
      1. -1
        2 November 2013 15: 22
        Quote: Sour
        Quote: fero
        It’s high time, as my father said, “to shoot and hang through one... shoot one and hang the other.”

        And those who will be authorized to shoot and hang will be the most corrupt officials. They will take bribes from those who have money. And the plan for executions and gallows will be carried out at the expense of those who cannot pay off (for example, at the expense of you and your friends). They will report to the top about the fulfillment and overfulfillment of the plan. They will receive medals and be washed at a corporate event.
        At the same time, they will definitely make the right toasts for the fight against corruption.
        And whoever did not understand this did not understand anything. He doesn’t know today’s Russia at all.

        What if you are personally given the right to try cases of bribe-takers, thieves and murderers?
        Will you become the most corrupt official?
        If yes, then don't judge others.
        If not, then make sure it doesn't happen. All the conditions are there. you just need to say that someone specifically, at the local level, is wrong.
        Just say it and provide evidence.
        Let's get everyone out. (maybe you too, if you take bribes and kickbacks)
        1. -2
          2 November 2013 15: 52
          Quote: Vasya
          If not, then make sure it doesn't happen.

          What did you do for this? Have you chatted on the forum?
          Quote: Vasya
          you just need to say that someone specifically, at the local level, is wrong.

          Anyone can say who is wrong. But try to work better and more honestly than him. Weak? Yes, of course, weakly. Anyone can talk. This requires no intelligence, no education, no honesty. Only keyboard and monitor.
          Are you ready to send your brother, father, mother, friend to prison if they break the law? Send it yourself? Yes, 100% are not ready, just like no one is ready. “Don’t give up your own people” is the most important part of our national mentality. You probably profess it too. And you shouldn’t despise others because they are the same as you, only endowed with power.
          And you are the same, you just haven’t sniffed power and haven’t been tested by it.
          Give you the freedom to shoot and hang, you will certainly shoot me (even if there is zero evidence of my guilt), but you will never touch your friends and relatives, even if the evidence of their guilt is obvious. You will never touch your boss's relatives and friends. You will shoot and hang based on personal hatred and orders from your superiors, and not on the basis of the law. This was the case in your beloved 1937.
          And don't lie that it's not so.
          We are not ready to transgress ourselves in the name of the law. And the fight against corruption is therefore impossible. And all your hysterical cries are not worth a penny.
          “We’ll bring everyone out”... And many of them were brought out?
        2. +1
          2 November 2013 16: 48
          And I'll add more.
          For some reason, many people shout for legality, but at the same time remember 1937 with longing. If anything, then no one was interested in legality at all. There was a struggle for power and settling personal scores.
          The same thing will happen now if people like you come to power in Russia. Because you are not interested in the rule of law (you haven’t even read the laws), give you “social justice”. And in the name of this justice, you are ready to kill some thieves in order to put others in their place - your friends and relatives. You will certainly allow them to steal, but how can that be? After all, ours.
          Downvote as much as you like, gentlemen talkers, but you are not for the rule of law. You are in favor of removing the Serdyukovs from the trough and taking their place.
          If your colleague or neighbor runs a red light or breaks a window in the entrance, will you report him to the police? No way! And what’s more, you will despise the one who does this. But the low level of corruption in Denmark, Germany, Sweden is based exactly on this, and not at executions and hangings. No one is shot there, but the level of corruption is the lowest in the world.
          You have to start with yourself, and then demand from others. And it won't work any other way. Do you always follow the law? Yes, probably not, you just console yourself with petty thoughts, like “well, I didn’t steal billions” and “the fish rots from the head.”
          And it’s so hard to start with yourself! It’s easier to bawle: “let’s shoot!”
          The thing is that corruption is rooted in our national mentality. Nobody imposes it except ourselves. And the dismissal of any official will not give anything, because he will be replaced by the same one. After all, there are no others in the country.
  57. korben
    0
    1 November 2013 20: 29
    Skolkovo is the cradle of laundering budget money on a huge scale! Another “grand” project of Chubais and Co.!
    1. 0
      1 November 2013 20: 54
      Skolkovo is a project of Medvedev and his entourage (Surkov, Vekselberg, etc.).
      And Chubais is not an independent figure; he cannot have any “grand projects”.
      1. +4
        1 November 2013 21: 11
        Medvedev and his entourage are a project of a moon-faced guarantor.
        and Medvedev is not an independent figure, he cannot have any “grand projects”.
      2. korben
        +2
        1 November 2013 21: 16
        I do not deny! I’m simply connecting the history and essence of Chubais’s personality as a “manager” very dear to the people and the state!
        1. +2
          1 November 2013 23: 31
          Quote: Korben
          I’m simply connecting the history and essence of Chubais’s personality as a “manager” very dear to the people and the state!

          Anatoly Borisovich is really very dear to us: he costs us a lot.
  58. +1
    1 November 2013 22: 31
    Quote: Walker1975
    Does Skolkovo live and what does it produce?

    They don’t seem to produce anything there, they just launder and steal...
  59. +1
    2 November 2013 07: 38
    Again we are ahead of the rest! Our bureaucrats have reached a cosmic level in “misuse of government funds” or, to put it bluntly, in THEFT! In the constellation Chubais - Vekselsperg and Skolkovo launched by them, such a black NANHOLE has been created into which people's money is flying out and will continue to fly out on a truly cosmic scale!
  60. 0
    2 November 2013 08: 14
    Oh, Skolkovo, it’s already set my teeth on edge. All Medvedev's projects are complete bullshit. A person wants to leave a mark on the history of Russia, but it turns out that he did not leave a mark, but left a legacy.
  61. +2
    2 November 2013 08: 45
    And in Russia we have always had the beginning of HORNS and HOOFS, but now SKOLKOVO, this is the brainchild of red bitches
  62. -2
    2 November 2013 15: 27
    Skolkovo is a toy for liberals' money laundering.
    It’s like Libya: the GDP spoke out, but did not oppose the President (why create a precedent?)
    In our country there are a lot of Academic Towns and universities, institutes based on them.
    Their GDP supports them.
    And we will still hear about Skolkovo, as well as “New” Moscow.
  63. 0
    4 November 2013 00: 31
    Equate embezzlers and bribe-takers with: traitors to the Motherland, with lifelong deprivation of holding a leadership position and general positions in the state. institutions, confiscation of property, 1 year of community service with a broom on the street in a disadvantaged area + immortalized on the Avenue of Shame in the form of nameplates along the Moscow Ring Road! Hell yes! should work)