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CIS air defense will make the Russian sky safer

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CIS air defense will make the Russian sky safer

By supplying modern air defense systems to the CIS countries, Russia is strengthening its air defense of its neighbors and taking care of its own security, Viktor Litovkin, responsible editor of the Independent Military Review, told Golos Rossii.


Russia intends to transfer four anti-aircraft missile systems C-300 to Belarus. This was stated by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu after meeting with his Belarusian counterpart Yuri Zhadobin, ITAR-TASS reported.

In the future, this system will most likely become the basis for the Eastern European zone of a single air defense of the CIS. In addition, plans are to create a Caucasian and Central Asian air defense zone. In January, an agreement on the formation of a single air defense system was signed with Kazakhstan, which can receive C-300 complexes free of charge by the end of the year.

What are the prospects for the creation of a unified air defense system, Golosu Rossii was told by the editor-in-chief of the newspaper Independent Military Review, Viktor Litovkin.

- Do all CIS countries want a unified air defense system?

- This is not quite a single air defense of the CIS countries, it is a single air defense along the directions. The Western European direction, if taken from Moscow, is a single air defense system of Belarus and Russia. The unified air defense system of Russia and Armenia - the Caucasus, the unified air defense system of Russia and the Central Asian states - Central Asian.

Of course, many countries are interested in obtaining modern Russian anti-aircraft missile technology, it is, without exaggeration, the best in the world today, the most reliable, the most effective. It is very beneficial for us to defend the common sky - both with our allies on a bilateral basis and within the framework of the CSTO.

- Who will pay for the supply of equipment when creating a unified air defense system?

- Deliveries in the framework of the CSTO are paid for by the recipient states themselves, but at factory prices, just as Russia purchases them. If we sell abroad, for example, to China, India or Algeria, we sell equipment at higher prices, including different surcharges, then we sell it to our CSTO partners at factory prices, including shipping costs and consultations, but these are small margins.

- What is the meaning of a unified air defense system? Army in all countries of their own, and the sky, it turns out, the general?

- All countries have their own armies, but all have the same military equipment, the Russian, because only Russia is able to produce such highly effective combat systems as C-300, C-400, Tor-M1, Tor-M2 , "Beech M-1", "C-1 Shell" and others. Not a single country of the CIS is capable of producing such anti-aircraft missile systems. This is the first.

The second. To protect the territory of Russia, we must know what is happening in the skies over Belarus, over Ukraine, over the republics of the Transcaucasus, over Central Asia. When alien planes, alien missiles appear over your head, it's too late to catch up. You need to know about their approach in advance when they are still at a considerable distance.

- Any difficulties may appear when creating such regional systems?

- Of course. Firstly, not all officers in the CIS countries have a sufficient level of training in order to own such equipment as C-300. For example, in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan we do not supply such complexes. There are no high-speed aircraft, bombers, such as in the United States, which can fly from Afghanistan or Pakistan to the region of our Central Asia, so there is no need to install C-300 or C-400 complexes, rather old C-125 complex or similar.

But on the western border, more serious complexes and more serious training of personnel are needed to repel air strikes.
- Some CIS countries are seeking to join the European Union and minimize their cooperation with the CIS. Does it make sense to “cover up” such states?

- In the European Union, they seek for economic reasons. And from a military point of view, no one will accept the same Ukraine into NATO, no one is going to defend it with the NATO “umbrella.” And Ukraine is not going to join NATO. This time.

Secondly, Ukraine is a self-sufficient state that is able to protect its airspace. But we are helping Ukraine to "cover" the airspace above it, and we are protecting the airspace of Russia.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 1 November 2013 15: 49
    +2
    By supplying modern air defense systems to the CIS countries, Russia strengthens the air defense of its neighbors and takes care of its own security
    Especially when you consider that from the Western direction from the border to Moscow there is nothing for modern planes ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 November 2013 16: 05
      +3
      And Ukraine is not going to join NATO. This time.
      Well, Yanukovych was not going to the EU either when he went to the polls.
      Quote: svp67
      Secondly, Ukraine is a self-sufficient state that is able to protect its airspace. But we are helping Ukraine to "cover" the airspace above it, and we are protecting the airspace of Russia.

      Ukraine will soon face the issue with the C 300, everything has a resource, and it is on the verge of the Ukrainian C 300.
      1. Kars
        Kars 1 November 2013 16: 09
        +4


        The repair of the air defense system is carried out by the State Enterprise "Ukroboronservis", in which the Center for Armaments and Military Equipment was created. It is reported that following the results of the work of the Russian-Ukrainian high-level commission, it was decided that the documentary, technical and technological base of the enterprise is sufficient to carry out military repairs of the components of the S-300 air defense system and renew the operational resource. Also, SE "Ukroboronservice" has all the documentary base for extending the life of the air defense missile system "Buk-M1".


        By 2013, the SE "Ukroboronservice" repaired eight S-300PS divisions for the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. The service life has been extended for 5 years or 5 thousand hours.

        In mid-2012, the "Program for restoring the combat capability of anti-aircraft missile forces of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until 2017" was approved, the implementation of which is entrusted to the State Enterprise "Ukroboronservis". It provides for the annual repair of four S-300PS complexes and one Buk-M1.

        The S-200V, S-300PT and S-300V1 air defense systems will be removed from service and transferred to storage bases, the total number of divisions will be reduced to 40, of which 2/3 will be S-300PS, and a third - Buk-M1. De facto, it can be argued that by 2017 the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine expects to have 24 combat-ready divisions in the air defense missile system.

        To ensure the repair and extension of the service life, the State Enterprise "Ukroboronservice" creates a domestic element base. The problem of producing klystrons or traveling wave tubes was solved. The next step is its acceptance into service. The development of the technological cycle for the restoration of the command post of the S-300PS 5N83S control has been mastered. For the Ukrainian army, it is necessary to carry out such work on five launchers, each of which closes up to 6 divisions. But in 2013, the ZRV command received only UAH 17 million (about RUB 70 million) from the budget for work on extending the service life and repairing equipment. For two S-300 air defense systems supplied to the troops, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has not yet paid off with the enterprise.

        Work is underway in the interests of foreign customers. In 2007, the S-300PS air defense system of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan was repaired. In 2012, the repair of the command post of the 5N83S system for Kazakhstan was completed and a new contract was signed for the repair of the S-300PS air defense system. In 2010-2011. State Enterprise "Ukroboronservis" repaired individual components of the S-300PS air defense system of the Ministry of Defense of Belarus.

        The article also reports that in 2007-2088 in Ukraine, the resources of the 5V55 missiles for the S-300P air defense system and 9M38M1 for the Buk-M1 air defense system were extended. Interesting is the information about the existing plans of the Ukrainian military to purchase 48N6E2 missiles from Russia, but this required the modernization of the S-300PS air defense system, and there are no practical examples of such work. Therefore, this project was not implemented
        1. Patriot.ru.
          Patriot.ru. 1 November 2013 22: 08
          0
          All good things come to an end.
      2. Akim
        Akim 1 November 2013 17: 46
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, Yanukovych was not going to the EU either when he went to the polls.

        Alexander, do not wishful thinking. We are not crawling into NATO, it’s already good .. But the S-300, recently the party was repaired by Kazakhstan. Apparently we are cheaper. Though...
        1. marshes
          marshes 1 November 2013 18: 23
          +5
          Good evening Akim!
          At the expense of the repaired S-300 PS, have you been removed from combat duty anywhere?
          1. Akim
            Akim 1 November 2013 18: 35
            +3
            Quote: marshes
            At the expense of the repaired S-300 PS, have you been removed from combat duty anywhere?

            Not recently. Only S-300V We are now jealous of such information. God forbid - so the opposition will break the power. Sometimes even d ... ibils from Svoboda had to explain that the S-300V was an army complex. And we no longer have the scale of the army.
            http://tbu.com.ua/news/uspeshnye_strelby_zrk_s_300ps_v_kazahstane_podtverdili_vy
            sokoe_kachestvo_remontnyh_rabot_ukroboronservisa_.html
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 2 November 2013 18: 05
          +1
          Quote: Akim
          Akim


          How are you doing with the Dnieper air defense system? I heard that the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense is going to buy the French Aster instead?
    2. DimychDV
      DimychDV 2 November 2013 04: 23
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      I remember in 2003, a senior officer in the Far East used to say: if Powers on the U-2 today flew towards the Urals from Hawaii, then from the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, there would be no one to find him even to Novosibirsk, not to mention. I hope not CIS, but we have our S-300 batteries here today?
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 1 November 2013 16: 11
    +3
    well, I’m not against the arming of the neighbors with our complexes, but ... so that OURs sit behind the control and the whole report flows to Moscow. otherwise, expensive gifts will be obtained that do not know how to react if something happens. if in Belarus there is confidence, then in Asia everything is exactly the opposite - they remain faithful only if they are kept in a strict collar
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 1 November 2013 17: 03
      +8
      Quote: andrei332809
      well, I’m not against the arming of the neighbors with our complexes, but ... so that OURs sit behind the control and the whole report flows to Moscow. otherwise, expensive gifts will be obtained that do not know how to react if something happens. if in Belarus there is confidence, then in Asia everything is exactly the opposite - they remain faithful only if they are kept in a strict collar

      a collar, a leash and a muzzle are still not enough, and in the hands of the "Sahib" a whip or a club lol
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 1 November 2013 17: 12
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        Quote: Semurg
        a collar, a leash and a muzzle are still not enough, and in the hands of the "Sahib" a whip or a club

        good "sahib" is satisfied wink
    2. whitewolf
      whitewolf 1 November 2013 23: 05
      +1
      I completely agree, I could not imagine, some years ago, that the air defense systems of the fraternal people would bring down our planes (in Georgia), therefore I am against the transfer of modern systems to Ukraine without blocking, if that is not so
  3. Mercenary
    Mercenary 1 November 2013 16: 12
    +1
    And Minsk is even closer. It’s necessary to help the common cause.
  4. Migari
    Migari 1 November 2013 16: 16
    0
    Secondly, Ukraine is a self-sufficient state that is able to protect its airspace

    Well, there’s no problem, maybe it’s enough to help forcibly, because Russia will never get any gratitude, how much you can step on the same rake.
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 1 November 2013 16: 29
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      Yeah, the article is all normal, but these conversations that no one will take Ukraine into NATO or she will not go, are too naive too))). Well, of course it’s better to let it be like in the article)))
  5. Nursultan
    Nursultan 1 November 2013 16: 28
    +3
    Good news. new S-300s will be added to existing ones. and it seems like S-400 will be delivered to Kazakhstan at factory prices. in the Republic of Kazakhstan, ACS is everywhere in air defense.
    1. Aydar
      Aydar 1 November 2013 18: 04
      +3
      can we talk about s-300v4? We cannot see the S-2015 before 400. piece production, but can supply two divisions
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 1 November 2013 21: 27
        +5
        Guys, there seems to be the following arrangements. Russia puts the S-400 on the armament instead of the S-300, and first of all in Belarus and Kazakhstan. At the end of last year, Russia gave us some S-300 (I don’t know how much and what kind of modification). By S-400. Deliveries to the Republic of Kazakhstan, starting in 2017. If Russia will be able to do this sooner, then Belarus and I are the first in line. Probably, there was a kind of launch of two new plants for the production of air defense systems. hi
        1. marshes
          marshes 1 November 2013 21: 35
          +2
          Kasym good evening, night.
          Russia supplies us with export-grade SMPUS. Perhaps some components are from an Iranian order.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 1 November 2013 23: 36
            +2
            Marshes, thanks!
  6. Dyukha Siberian
    Dyukha Siberian 1 November 2013 16: 43
    +1
    need to respond to missile defense! though so far! more would be allies to our state closer to the states!
  7. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 1 November 2013 16: 48
    +4
    The decision is quite reasonable.
    Especially when you consider the amount of NATO flying weapons, the air defense assets should be tens of times more. And on the perimeter of the state. CIS borders in the first place.
    It’s only that you think over the blocking systems (for example, electronic) just in case anyone (like Georgia, for example) decides to go over to the enemy’s side.
    Americans seem to be using something similar.
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  10. Russ69
    Russ69 1 November 2013 17: 17
    +2
    The thing is necessary, a single air defense should be, so everyone is calmer ...
    1. Akim
      Akim 1 November 2013 17: 53
      +2
      Quote: Russ69
      , unified air defense should be

      Support.
  11. Onyx
    Onyx 1 November 2013 17: 32
    +1
    Are the S-300 complexes removed from our armament delivered to Belarus and Kazakhstan? New ones, like, have not been produced for a long time
    1. Aydar
      Aydar 1 November 2013 18: 06
      +3
      repaired or s-300pmu 1, or s-300v4 or s-300 pmu 2 which is converted from pmu 1
  12. aviamed90
    aviamed90 1 November 2013 17: 56
    +3
    I would like to ask the author of the article the question: why do you reduce the construction of a common air defense system only to the supply of air defense systems for air defense systems?
    And not a word about RTV air defense and air defense IA.
    And how are things going with them?
    1. Stasi
      Stasi 1 November 2013 19: 44
      0
      I completely agree. Full-fledged anti-aircraft defense like missile defense does not rely solely on air defense systems. Without modern means of electronic intelligence, any systems will not be able to give a proper rebuff to the enemy. Also required are flying radars of the A-50 or AWACS type, as well as electronic warfare systems. The article does not mention air defense aviation, which is a key element in the air defense system.
    2. Nursultan
      Nursultan 1 November 2013 21: 03
      +1
      As far as I know, the RK buys its RTV station is Oborona and P-18. In RK we release our own RTV systems
      1. marshes
        marshes 1 November 2013 21: 41
        +1
        I’ll add that in Kazakhstan there are still MIG-31 at the expense of aviation.
        There are A-35 and A-135 missile interceptors in Sary-Shagan. The other day, launches were carried out.
      2. scientist
        scientist 1 November 2013 22: 06
        +2
        Radar Defense (P-14, 5N84AP), like the P-18, was developed in the USSR in the 50s. In Kazakhstan, only the P-18 is being upgraded at Granit JSC, Defense is also being assembled, but there is too large an antenna (36m wide and 15 high), there are some problems in the rotation system, such bearings have long ceased to be manufactured. They say there are solutions, but so far these are projects.
        In addition, the essence of the modernization of the P-18 (in the future, "Defense") is to install Chinese computers and server equipment, the receiving and transmitting device is also Chinese. But the software is used Ukrainian. When Kazspetsexprot acquired the upgraded P-18 radars in 2005, Granit simply made images of the hard drives and now it simply replicates them. But then, Ukraine supplied a modernization option with a 3-channel auto-compensator of active interference, now Kazakhstan’s modernized P-18 radars have been spared this “expensive” advantage.
        In any case, that the P-18, that the Defense can only work in standby mode, as a target designation and aircraft guidance station, they do not need anyone without altimeters.
        So to your RTV systems, sorry, but you are very far away.
        1. Nursultan
          Nursultan 2 November 2013 00: 08
          +2
          The USSR did not immediately build everything and the Republic of Kazakhstan, even if it is in small steps, is doing something.
  13. scientist
    scientist 1 November 2013 18: 02
    +2
    The supply of weapons to some CIS countries at preferential prices, and sometimes at the expense of the Russian budget (to Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan) does not make air defense uniform. The greatest damage to security is the distribution of cipher-blocks of a state identification system to everyone. Although Russia has developed its own recognition system and this is correct, but then what kind of unity are we talking about.
    A single air defense system implies a single technical policy and system compatibility, especially with regard to communication systems. The positions of Belarus and Kazakhstan are not in any way consistent with this. Kazakhstan, like Tajikistan, is acquiring French and German radars, Israeli communication systems, as well as Spanish electronic warfare systems "Cicada"?
    In particular, for the acquisition of the first batch of the French GM-403 radar in 2014, min. Kazakhstan’s defense allocated $ 20 million, which is about 3 times the cost of the Russian analogue of the Gamma-C1 and twice the radar of the combat mode 96L6, and the latter in terms of their performance characteristics are significantly superior to the French GM-403. Prior to this, several S-300PS air defense systems were purchased from Ukraine.
    Of course, the main reason for such steps is the ability to get good kickbacks for contracts to officials and generals. Naturally, Russian suppliers, in accordance with the CSTO Agreements "On the Supply of Arms at Domestic Prices", simply cannot lay down such amounts of “kickbacks” in contracts, which means they are not competitive.
    Belarus, apparently, too, proceeding from "its strategic" considerations, transferred to China all its air defense automated control system technology in 2005. These technologies and software products of the air defense automated control system were supplied by the Belarusian "Agat" for Kazakhstan, as well as for a number of Arab countries. In our age of global hacking, when the only reliable means of protection is the physical isolation of channels, such steps allow potential adversaries of Russia to study in detail all the features of the algorithms for detecting and tracking targets in the air defense system, remaining invisible even without stealth technologies.
    Thus, without a unified technical policy, integration even at the level of a simple automated exchange of information in the air defense of the CIS countries and the CSTO will create a serious security gap in Russian air defense. Against this background, an information attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities using the Stuxnet virus can be a runny nose compared to what could threaten the CIS air defense combined into a single information field.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 1 November 2013 18: 37
      +1
      Quote: scientist
      The supply of weapons to some CIS countries at preferential prices, and sometimes at the expense of the Russian budget (to Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan) does not make air defense uniform. The greatest damage to security is the distribution of cipher-blocks of a state identification system to everyone. Although Russia has developed its own recognition system and this is correct, but then what kind of unity are we talking about.
      A single air defense system implies a single technical policy and system compatibility, especially with regard to communication systems. The positions of Belarus and Kazakhstan are not in any way consistent with this.

      I agree to all 146% good
    2. Onyx
      Onyx 1 November 2013 18: 58
      0
      This is not a single, but a unified system
    3. varov14
      varov14 1 November 2013 21: 23
      +1
      Hmm puzzled, it turns out a complete bullshit, i.e. You can sell, but we are serviced by ours, or robotic complexes with remote control, of which there are none. Gentlemen of the military, if so, include civil liability in your family too, why does the country need linden. It turns out sale for the sake of sale, i.e. money, but without fat, it’s completely stupid.
    4. Zymran
      Zymran 1 November 2013 22: 09
      -1
      Quote: scientist
      Of course, the main reason for such steps is the ability to get good kickbacks for contracts to officials and generals. Naturally, Russian suppliers, in accordance with the CSTO Agreements "On the Supply of Arms at Domestic Prices", simply cannot lay down such amounts of “kickbacks” in contracts, which means they are not competitive.


      Maybe just western radars and electronic warfare systems are more powerful and better than Russian ones? Although, kickbacks, of course, too.
      1. scientist
        scientist 1 November 2013 23: 27
        +2
        I indicated the types of radar and electronic warfare. I can only add that at one of the Spanish electronic warfare stations "Cicada" during acceptance tests, a whole unit burned down, which had to be ordered from the USA. It's about reliability and maintainability. Regarding the fact that it is better, it could not suppress a single communication system in the regime of frequency hopping, neither the French Thales, nor the American Harris, they simply did not test the Israeli and Russian ones. She suppressed the sighting equipment of the SU-27, but did not even detect the operation of the MiG-31 sight.
        About the power and reliability of the radar is generally funny to talk. All modern Russian radars are designed to operate in the aerospace defense system, i.e. detection of hypersonic targets at altitudes of more than 100km. In western radars, in principle, the maximum altitude is limited to 30 km, the speed is not more than 1000 m / s, and the range is only direct visibility, i.e. 300 km, if the start frequency and EPR of more than 10 square meters allow. Western radars have less power and reliability in principle (5 thousand hours MTBF of 80% in Russian Gamma-C1 (96L6) and 5 thousand MTBF of 30 solid state transistor amplifiers with 50% of efficiency in French GM403 - agree the difference is significant)
  14. starhina01
    starhina01 1 November 2013 22: 09
    +1
    competently invented from these deliveries much can be won hi
  15. whitewolf
    whitewolf 1 November 2013 23: 19
    +3
    I hope, nevertheless, that almost all the nuances are calculated, although the history of 1945 is alarming.
    When everyone thought that now all people are brothers!
  16. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 2 November 2013 07: 26
    +1
    A unified air defense is a good thing .. But first I think that Russia would be covered with an umbrella (not only Moscow))) And then it will take care of other "fraternal" peoples too! And air defense (modern) must be serviced by our calculations (a prerequisite), otherwise they either steal or sell .. there were such cases .. bully
    1. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 2 November 2013 09: 41
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      A unified air defense is a good thing .. But first I think that Russia would be covered with an umbrella (not only Moscow))) And then it will take care of other "fraternal" peoples too! And air defense (modern) must be serviced by our calculations (a prerequisite), otherwise they either steal or sell .. there were such cases .. bully

      Of course, control must be mandatory !!! So that it does not work out like with vampires in Syria now, from the use of which by extremists, Syrian tankers are suffering heavy losses! Despite the fact that the vampires did not sell anywhere, but only delivered to "friends", and then quite a bit! The question is - where did they come from in the hands of the bandits in Syria? The answer is, of course, from our "friends" !!! Georgia is again the brightest example! A traitorous friend is worse than an enemy! Blindly trusting some "friends" in the CIS is unacceptable negligence! As they say - trust but verify!
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 2 November 2013 09: 56
        0
        In Egypt, I remember the newest radar our Jews stole (using a helicopter ..))) the Arabs fled .. So the newest weapons should always be kept with you .. The Chinese are digging and copying everything .. recourse
  17. Semurg
    Semurg 2 November 2013 18: 42
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    What air defense system do you want to create? single or united? if the uniform air defense complexes of Russia are advanced to neighboring countries with crews from Russia and obey orders from Moscow. if combined, then this is another option, because Kazakhstan buys these complexes and puts its aircrews in the integrated air defense system.