Military Review

Soviet Happiness

70
“The black forces are in turmoil, the wind blows in our faces
For the happiness of the people, detachments of workers are fighting. ”


Pavel Armand "Clouds rose over the city."


Soviet Happiness

At one time, I had the occasion to read the satirical play “Without Names of Names” by the author Vasil Minko, popular in 1950's. The most typical thing for that era is the capricious daughter of a high-ranking official who does not want to work on the periphery, while her fiancé Maxim, the right Soviet young man, is actively going to fight to build a new city with the romantic name Clear Dawns on the edge of civilization. Recognized the rhetoric and style of time? So, in this play the theme of happiness constantly sounds. In his pathetic monologue, Maxim says that real people themselves create their own happiness. “And you want others to build it for you. You are not looking for a friend of life in me, but the creator of your little happiness, the same as your mother created by your father. ” Thus, the antithesis of “right happiness” is a common thread of narration - “happiness is wrong,” happiness. What is happiness in the Soviet way? Are all these slogans about “universal popular happiness” stupid and naive? Today, of course, they are trying to convince us that we were happy and joyful ... solely out of ignorance. Like, we shouted "Ur-r-ra-a!" At demonstrations only because we were not aware of our collective inferiority, and when we suddenly woke up and enlightened, we immediately turned towards bourgeois values. In general, they stopped repeating their learned mantra about "the happiest and most powerful people in the world." And that’s all - shooting and selling 90's.


But what is most interesting, the maintenance of social optimism in society, so popular in the USSR, is now highly valued by the Western creators of the so-called “positive psychology” - reproduction of joyful affirmations is presented as almost the only way to success and to victorious success. Create a luminous "aura of happiness" around you, read out exceptionally good ones news and to say only good words - this is taught by psychologists of the most popular direction in America. Think positive! Let in the good! Filter byaku and - you will be forever young, joyful and cheerful. And, as usual - rich. Where do without it? And in the Soviet Union, we were all supplied with extremely optimistic information about our world - the news programs spoke of improvement and improvement, creation and conquest, whereas modern media much more like negative or scandalous messages. Do you think because now everything is so bad and terrible? Not. Just fried and even - the fake is sold, more precisely - it gives off faster and more tasty. Just with an active crunch havatsya.

Example. About the failures with the "Proton" they called, shouted all borzopisty, interrupting popular bloggers and savoring it almost as Putin's personal failure. But the notice that “... The Russian Proton-M launch vehicle successfully delivered an American satellite Sirius FM-6 to the target orbit,” Interfax said dryly, and in blogs there is a deathly silence about this. Because joy and optimism do not attract a chewing tradesman, as it turned out. But this man - let him even three times stupid man in the street - does not become happier. On the contrary, he develops fears and pathological uncertainty. And then the insane psychologists come to his aid - they give out a recipe for personal happiness. Positive affirmation and personal (paid) protection from the flow of information slops. So, the Soviet media did not tell us about maniacs who, of course, were found, and did not torment the details of the collapse of the bridges (which also happened), but rather raised about noble beet growers and opera singers. We were initially protected from the negative and carefully filtered information. Was it one hundred percent correct? Let everyone answer this question himself. But the fact remained that a man lived in a positive-sunny information space. It irritated someone, certainly. But this is just a lyrical digression.

... So, what is “Soviet-style happiness”? First, it can only be universal, nationwide, and better - planetary. The struggle for world peace is from the same “opera”. When liberals shout that communism and nazism are twins, they forget the main thing. The Bolsheviks wanted happiness, freedom and bread for everyone and for everyone, while the Nazis dreamed of a paradise for the elect, for the racial elite with the right skulls and the same flawless gyrus. Of course, it was a utopia - to make everyone happy, but, of course, a beautiful utopia. We were told that personal, personal happiness is not happiness at all. Happiness - s-part. I'm with some part. Am I a part of something big? A personal little happiness - this is so, petty bourgeois, the joy of fatty curls, who dragged various delicacies and knick-knacks into his hole. Just the same Malchish-Plohish some! In satirical cinema and in topical literature, an image of a renegade constantly emerged who wants to build his hut from the edge in order to live there with all the comforts he needs. "No, dear!", - his fellow citizens answered him and were taken immediately and violently to rehabilitate him. “There is a lot of good in the house, but where is your happiness?” - such a question can be heard in the finale of the film “Alien Relatives”. Petty-bourgeois satiety and gloomy-kulak contentment here are contrasted to the young burning and joyful collectivism. We are shown that a person cannot be happy alone, and material values ​​do not add fun at all. Money is not happiness, in a word.

Further, happiness in a Soviet way cannot be “easy,” just as money cannot be easy. Happiness must be gained, conquered, deserved. In principle, this does not contradict the Christian worldview, and, in fact, universal human values. "Through thorns - to the stars!" And nothing else. In this regard, I remember the children's fantasy film "Youths in the Universe." Pioneers-cosmonauts arrive on a distant planet where human-like robots rule the world, so they see the invasion of earthlings as a threat to their super-civilization. To neutralize adolescents, robots - "executives" decide them ... forcibly happy. This process is most likely similar to zombies or another similar procedure. Deprive the soul and mind, in order to force to always be happy and at the same time - indifferent. Of course, Soviet children actively resist this very process, for indifference in the Soviet system of values ​​was considered the greatest of sins.

By and large, Sadko's epic character in the 1952 film version of the year gets into a similar situation. In the story, the Novgorodians are looking for genuine happiness in the world, and now, finally, fate throws them into the eastern country, where the sinisterly beautiful Phoenix Bird sings them sweet songs. More precisely, immerses the heroes in a meditative state. Here are literally her words: “The country of blissful peace ... Woe to those who want to get happiness by their act. Happiness is peace. ” And, of course, that such a defective happiness does not suit the epic Guslar and his comrades - an exotic bird-diva is roughly being shoved into a bag and the whole is short. Arkady Gaidar has a fairy tale called “Hot Stone”. In the story, the young Ivashka finds a lump, breaking which you can regain the youth. Then the boy decides to talk about the stone to a feeble old man, whose restless youth passed in the struggle for Soviet power. But, as you remember, he refuses this seemingly tempting sentence: “... Then they timidly dreamed that, even if not with us, and after us, our country would be as great as it is now - mighty and great. Is not it happiness? And what is my other life? Another youth? When mine went hard, but clearly and honestly! ”

Or the satirical comedy “Easy Life”. The name itself suggests that this is the highest degree of incidence. Life can't be easy, it's an oxymoron. And for sure - a certain talented chemist Bochkin, instead of creating and creating, settled down in ... dry cleaning. Moreover, he does not work there either, but he is satisfied with a warm “business”. Of course, money from the former chemist is in bulk, but unfortunately there is no happiness, while his joyful comrades stick in a certain Dalnogorsk (a kind of the already mentioned Yasny Zor). This is life! - say the creators of the picture. It is clear that businessman Bochkin is re-educated and, as usual, acquires the desired fullness of being. In the USSR, there was even a stable wording - “love of difficulties”. Of course, the agitprop, as they say, went too far, and if a mediocre director or a template-based author took up the case, the result was not even deplorable, but rather foolish. Featheronists, caricaturists and KVNschiki mocked at this pathetic, but not supported by deeds, “love of difficulties”. I recall the caricature of the middle 1960-x, which depicted a satiated-fat, dressed in some Oblomov robe, a writer. Perched in a cozy "bourgeois" chair, under a fashionable floor lamp, he wrote a multivolume novel with the name ... "Love of difficulties." In the accompanying feuilleton it was said that some of our authors, by chewing those same textbook pineapples with grouse, nevertheless, make names for themselves by creating standard, slogan-primitive books on the pathetic burning in production.

That is why the phrase "happiness - in work" acquired, ultimately, an ironic, stylistic shade. Although, all the same Western psychologists teach that it is unloved, unproductive or empty work - the shortest way to depression. From here - stresses, nervousness, desire to change a life and at the same time - floundering on the web. That is why downshifting is so popular today both in Russia and in the West, that is, leaving hateful, even well-paid work and opting for some nice artwork, even if it does not generate large incomes. It is clear that knitting rugs are nicer and more worthy than sitting stupidly in an open-space and waiting for the coveted “slutty Friday”.

The question of happiness is sharply discussed in the landmark movie of the end of 1960-x - “We live to see Monday”. If you remember, according to the plot, high school students write an essay on the topic “What is happiness?”. What is the problem? Those who used the stamped love of hardship formula turned out to be ... right. Those who wrote from the heart, like Nadia Ogarysheva, who dreams of having many patriarchal families, became the object of teacher irritation. Not in shape. The main character, the local poet Genka Shestopal, uttered only one phrase: “Happiness is when they understand you.” By and large, this film, like the date of its creation - 1968 year - was a kind of watershed, a point of no return. Whether the Soviet people are tired of searching for a collective, difficult and beautiful Happiness. Whether it is the intelligentsia, which, in fact, sets the tone for society, has become reluctant to build socialism, because, like Ostap Bender, it has become “boring to build it”. But in the next decade and until Perestroika, we were shown more and more personal, personal happiness. More precisely - his painful absence. There were all kinds of "Autumn Marathons" with "Winter Cherries" and other "Flying in a dream and reality" - about longing, despondency and, as usual, adulterers on the job. Hopeless gray paint and the road to emptiness.

It was during these years that the song “Bird of Happiness” originated. It seems to be an ordinary variety composition, which then, out of habit, was cursed for lack of understanding, but at the same time it was regularly played on the radio. Nobody really listened to the text - vigorous music covered the essence. But the content is entertaining, not to say creepy. The beginning seems to be optimistic: "Bird of happiness of tomorrow / Flew in, ringing its wings ... / Choose me, choose me, / Bird of happiness of tomorrow." In the next verse we are clearly informed: "Tomorrow will be better than yesterday." And where is the “today” in which the singing lives? But “today” in this song is not at all. There is some yesterday, which is a priori worse than shining tomorrow. But with all this: “There will be tomorrow morning. / Someone will be the first, not me ... / Someone, not me, someone, not me / Put down a song of tomorrow. " That is, the lyrical hero tells us that the Beautiful Far will belong to someone else, but not to him. "And the bird of luck will fly away again ...". At the end of 1980-s, the search for happiness brought many people to the final dead end - the quizzes of this dead-end situation include the book “Intergirl” by Vladimir Kunin and a film based on this story. We were shown the gutted, or rather the empty soul of Tanka Zaitseva, who faithfully believed that abroad, where there are 120 TV programs and the same sorts of cheese, she would be better and sweeter. Sweeter her, perhaps, and it became, but better - alas. What do we have in the end?

... Of course, now you can cynically laugh at the failed attempts to build a universal and total happiness with apple trees on Mars and other beautiful dreams. And you can just grieve that this is our fault did not happen.
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  1. Alexei
    Alexei 1 November 2013 08: 42 New
    +6
    Oh, the search for happiness ... As for me, it’s a dead end to wait for him in principle. You can only believe in him.
    1. APES
      APES 1 November 2013 09: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexej
      You can only believe in him


      and it’s hard for a person without faith - it only saves.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 1 November 2013 09: 25 New
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      Quote: /// j
      So what exactly is “Soviet-style happiness”?



      And what is there. We lived and thought that it would be better, but now we live and think that it will only get worse.
      1. self-propelled
        self-propelled 1 November 2013 13: 08 New
        12
        and they said "stagnant times" ... as for me, Soviet stagnation is better than modern "incomprehensible body movements"
        1. Starfish
          Starfish 1 November 2013 13: 33 New
          +3
          "and they said" stagnant times "... as for me, Soviet stagnation is better than modern" incomprehensible body movements "

          and now also stagnation and the same late Brezhnev.
          although current times are losing in everything.
          1. Alexei
            Alexei 1 November 2013 16: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Starfish
            and now also stagnation and the same late Brezhnev.

            The first two letters should be changed to "stagnant". And Putin will be faster, the "communism machine" does not help him.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 1 November 2013 13: 47 New
        +9
        And what is there. We lived and thought that it would be better, but now we live and think that it will only get worse. what And it’s better already, but they didn’t appreciate it, the country was led by lollipop ...
      3. waisson
        waisson 1 November 2013 18: 36 New
        +2
        here's another example
    3. domokl
      domokl 1 November 2013 11: 12 New
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      Quote: Alexej
      Oh, the search for happiness ... As for me, it’s a dead end to wait for him in principle.

      An interesting idea. Only from such a hang or shoot, depending on the profession.
      The author talks about happiness, but the concept itself does not understand, or does not want to understand. According to the article, and according to your comment, it turns out that everyone who lived before us was unhappy. Everyone had a terrible thing today.
      What I will say is only my opinion. It may coincide, it may not coincide, but it is mine.
      Happiness is permanent only in patients who are crazy at home. He sits one who does not need anything, drools and is happy ... The rest are always happy only in moments.
      He survived the bayonet-happy attack. They took some kind of invention to production-happy. The son was born-happy ... Happiness is when you have done something. When something extraordinary happens. The rest is just life.
      Our grandfathers went to the pillboxes with faith in our happiness. They went to death and died for happiness. And we are the same. And it’s stupid to condemn the lives of our parents now. Who are we to discuss them at all? They lived with their happiness, we with our , our children, with their own .. But happiness was, is and will be.
      So, in spite of all the positive reviews, I put the article minus. And such a bold one.
      1. riding
        riding 1 November 2013 13: 18 New
        +2
        Right. The author plays with words and meanings, but for herself has not decided what it is, happiness. It just made fun of everything: where it’s stronger, where it’s easier. A concussion happened.
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 1 November 2013 14: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        So, in spite of all the positive reviews, I put the article minus. And such a bold one.

        - let it be your IMHO. Although I do not agree, it’s still a plus. The question of happiness is a big and philosophical question. That. what are you talking about as happiness -
        Quote: domokl
        The rest are always happy only in moments. He survived the bayonet-happy attack. They took some kind of invention for production-happy. The son was born-happy ...

        - in my opinion, this is joy in the situation, happiness is closer to the state of the soul, and the state of the soul is usually stable. That is, based on this, you can be happy all the time. There is a bit of confusion in the Russian language, so everyone confuses the sharp moments of situational joy with happiness. This is my IMHO. For example, I consider myself happy - I have a favorite job, a good wife, smart kids, and I manage to realize most of my plans. For complete happiness, I would like our powers to become more successful and prosperous, so that our powers would receive recognition as strong and respectable powers, and not as "Borat". So sometimes I hang out here. But the fact that I am happy does not mean at all that I have to jump for joy all the time - I can wake up in a bad mood and swear at the bad news. This does not affect the general state of mind over a long period. This is also IMHO.
        Another interesting thing.
        "But, what is most interesting, the maintenance of social optimism in society, so popular in the USSR, is now highly valued by Western creators of the so-called" positive psychology "- the reproduction of joyful affirmations is presented as almost the only way to luck and to victorious success" - Yesterday I read an interesting material in "Vzglyad", where the man convincingly argued that the Swiss Bank "Credit Swish" sucks, therefore he can neither count nor draw proper conclusions. That is, these bankers decided to assess the inequality of distribution and came to the conclusion that in Russia 70% of the property belongs to 1% of the population, which is actually a verdict on the state. At the same time, the total property of all Russian families for some reason was estimated at only one and a half trillion US dollars. Yes, one real estate in Moscow within the Moscow Ring Road will already exceed this ridiculous amount !!! The average annual average family income of a Russian family is therefore estimated at only $ 900. In general, in that article it is convincingly proved that in terms of inequality in the distribution of income and property, Russia, though bad, is far from being in the worst positions, it is possible to live.
        So in "Vzgiaad" this was raised on the subject of "Author for soap!". Really, it’s funny to read the whining of Russians that “the author paints a blissful picture despite the fact that the incomes of Russians are even below $ 900!”, It’s interesting that at the same time people are posting from a computer, which just costs these 900 dollars! At such a pace, even while chewing black caviar, one can be a whiner and complain about the hard lot of Russians. THIS REALLY needs to be fixed, it's hard to live with whiners. Here, too, are full of such!
    4. Algor73
      Algor73 1 November 2013 11: 23 New
      +3
      Happiness is not the end result, happiness is the path to the end result, the struggle against difficulties. And if you wait for happiness and do nothing at the same time? Understanding happiness for each person is different.
      1. In the book
        In the book 1 November 2013 17: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Algor73
        Understanding happiness for each person is different

        That's right, dear, the way it is.

        Quote: Algor73
        happiness is the path to the end result

        And here it’s hard to disagree with you.
        It often happens that you are waiting for some kind of happy event. It comes, but you do not experience the expected joy (or happiness). Therefore, for myself, I have long decided that

        Happiness is the expectation of happiness
  2. Denis
    Denis 1 November 2013 08: 44 New
    +5
    we shouted "Urr-ra-ah!" at the demonstrations
    And it is not known which is worse? Now they have moved to religion. Remember the boar candlestick, which is fucking, how many people, being the secretary of the district committee of blood, he drank for religion? Wife baptized with a mother-in-law child, all-jamb along the party line
    Whom do these ... want to deceive?
    1. APES
      APES 1 November 2013 09: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: Denis
      And it is not known which is worse? Now gone to religion


      I didn’t understand what kind of boar you had in mind, yes, well .....

      not considering any specific personalities regarding religion - in the USSR there was a certain caricature of religion:
      for example:
      initiation into pioneers - baptism
      May Day demonstrations - procession of the cross
      mausoleum - relics
      etc.

      I recall the USSR with warmth and pain, but any human project without God and against it is doomed to failure.

      This is my opinion, and I do not impose it on anyone.
      1. Denis
        Denis 1 November 2013 09: 27 New
        +7
        Quote: APES
        I didn’t understand what kind of boar did you mean
        EBN so that he ...
        Quote: APES
        any human project without God and against him is doomed to failure
        It just needs to be from the heart, and not like a fashion
        And then they began to consecrate cars, shops, etc.
        Looking at these faces it is very doubtful that they do it for the sake of faith in God
        1. APES
          APES 1 November 2013 11: 05 New
          +3
          Quote: Denis
          It’s just that it was necessary from the heart, and not like a fashion, and then they began to consecrate cars, shops, etc. Looking at these faces it is very doubtful that they do it for the sake of faith in God

          Do not worry:
          Book of Job, 36
          “Then He points them to their deeds and to their iniquities, because they have multiplied,
          and opens their ear for admonition and tells them to fall behind from wickedness.
          If they obey and serve Him, they will spend their days in prosperity and their summers in joy;
          if they don’t listen, they will die from the arrow and die in foolishness. ”

          Most of the people who go to the Temple (I emphasize the building itself) - 99% did not even read the Bible. 90% of people who learn that you need to change yourself first of all - are scared, 80% who know what efforts it costs - run away.

          PS
          "The closer to God, the more you understand your insignificance and your abomination"
          From my own experience, I’ll say that from the moment I began to seriously plunge into this question - the sins of other people became not important to me, because I found so much dirt in myself that after trying to somehow wash and cleanse myself ....... ...
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 1 November 2013 13: 57 New
            +1
            Why are you on an Internet then climb? sin is ... from the evil one! go better cleanse further! hi
            1. APES
              APES 1 November 2013 16: 26 New
              0
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              sin is

              Who told you that?
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              go better

              thank you
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 1 November 2013 13: 54 New
        +6
        and now drunk priests in sports cars are not caricatures ... but the litigious patriarch is not caricatures ... and temples that grew up in gangster 90s, donations for gangsters are not caricatures ... go to the cemetery and see who is closer to the church buried also not a caricature?
        1. APES
          APES 1 November 2013 16: 31 New
          -1
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          and now drunk priests on sports cars is not a caricature

          and where is religion? Are there many of them, such priests? - "to whom much is given, from that and more to ask"
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          and the litigious patriarch

          tell him about it, he has something to answer you
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          on gangster donations

          "the unrighteous accumulates wealth for the righteous"
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          look who is closer

          it is absolutely not interesting to me
        2. Denis
          Denis 1 November 2013 21: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          drunk priests in sports cars -
          This is enough, but is it worth confusing the saints with the priests?
      3. saha6052
        saha6052 1 November 2013 14: 04 New
        +1
        It is true, Denis, that you don’t impose, but opinions can be different and they are all pleasing. The Mission of Man is not to believe, but to know, the Creator gave man not Faith, but Reason and Will and Faith. Man (the evil one) has already adapted it to benefit to himself, and those who tried to be disinterested, destroyed, ostracized, pushed aside from a wonderful business (it's not to wave a pick in a mine, but to turn "sins" into hard currency, status and Power.
  3. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 1 November 2013 08: 47 New
    +1
    Universal happiness ... probably too loud; the joy of the people, the citizens of the country for the successes of their state is yes, but happiness is purely personal and individual ... hi
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 November 2013 09: 14 New
      +7
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      the joy of the people, the citizens of the country for the success of their state is yes, and happiness is purely personal and individual ..

      The wording of happiness is certainly controversial, but people’s eyes shone at that time ... And obviously not because the fish ate a lot laughing There was unity in diversity, and happiness was collective, and grief. The flight of Gagarin, and the death of Stalin, all this, as an example, reflects the emotional community of the people.
    2. pahom54
      pahom54 1 November 2013 10: 17 New
      +8
      Universal happiness - it's probably too loud ...
      Yes, not loud, but normal. I remember when the first satellite flew, the people - young and old - rejoiced, hugged in the streets. And when Yuri Gagarin flew - the crowds hugged - rejoiced - laughed - cried - fraternized !!! We were glad for the fatherland, for the country! THERE WHERE HAPPINESS HAPPENED !!! NOW THIS will probably never happen again.
      So the national happiness in my life I have personally witnessed. And glad of that.
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      2. Anper
        Anper 1 November 2013 12: 13 New
        +2
        I support 100% as a conscious witness of the last decade of the USSR. Anyone interested - give a reference.
        [media = http: //test-wp-heatmap-adaptive.sdlsetitemplates.ru/foto-i-video/russkaya
        -natsional-naya-ideya-monolog-geroya-v-men-shova-iz-kf-gorod-zero /]
      3. yur
        yur 1 November 2013 23: 19 New
        +2
        October 1957. We did not live in a communal apartment, but 12 apartments opened into a common long corridor. And Aunt Tasya was running down this corridor and shouting: “People, people turn on the radio! They say that the satellite was launched!” What was happening in the whole house , in the yard, on the streets. In the evening, in all the corridors of our rather big house, tables were laid, people could not sit in their apartments alone. I was 6 years old, but I have not forgotten the feeling of true universal happiness until now. Much has passed since then. years, there was joy and there were losses like any living person and a lot was erased in the memory, but that feeling of happiness is still alive. Probably because it was Common. I think so.
  4. olviko
    olviko 1 November 2013 08: 48 New
    17
    Cabbage ....... potatoes ........ and fat ........ Love ....... Komsomol ........ and Spring! ... .... What the hell were we all missing? !! ..... What country was gone !!!!!.
    1. 123dv
      123dv 1 November 2013 09: 13 New
      +6
      The country is not lost.
      And it was not enough for us !?
      So, get it in full!

      And cry about
      It’s like a hand fell (at 6 o’clock) ...
      Fell, was wrong ...

      And the arrow will rise
      Nimitz rocket
      There is still time to shoot.

      And ordinary happiness
      Official, personal,
      To people will return again!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 1 November 2013 14: 00 New
        +2
        especially pleased: "... to people ..." smile
        1. 123dv
          123dv 1 November 2013 14: 06 New
          0
          Exactly!
          wink
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 1 November 2013 08: 49 New
    +8
    Example. All the scribblers called and shouted about the failures with Proton, interrupting popular bloggers and savoring it almost as Putin's personal failure. And here is the notice that "... The Russian Proton-M launch vehicle has successfully delivered the American Sirius FM-6 satellite to its target orbit," Interfax said dryly and in the blogs - deathly silence

    What nonsense about bloggers, on our site bloggers spoke out in full on such launches.
    I repeat once again - it is not clear why the PROTONS take off with the American satellites and the PROTONS fall with the Russian satellites - I demand punishment in the style of the NKVD (the guilty were felled)
    1. explorer
      explorer 1 November 2013 10: 54 New
      +5
      Sawing? it’s a pity for nature - it’s better to crush it into a hand-made stone for roads.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 1 November 2013 14: 03 New
      +2
      I repeat once again - it is not clear why the PROTONS take off with the American satellites and the PROTONS fall with the Russian satellites - I demand punishment in the style of the NKVD (the guilty were felled) No. I read somewhere that the element base when launching "protons" for "friends" is used by theirs, and for "myself" it is Chinese ... I mean chips, microcircuits, etc.
  6. pensioner
    pensioner 1 November 2013 08: 50 New
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    What is “Soviet-style happiness”?
    For me, Soviet-style happiness is an opportunity to do what you love. Moreover, in the USSR, the state encouraged this simple human desire in every possible way. Happiness is when the results of your work benefit the country. And when a person is happy in his creative and professional self-realization, then all other components of Great Human Happiness are applied automatically.
  7. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 1 November 2013 08: 56 New
    +4
    Confidence in tomorrow's stability.
  8. makarov
    makarov 1 November 2013 09: 02 New
    +2
    Happiness is an individual thing, and everyone "forges" it according to their own opinion, understanding and likeness.
  9. erased
    erased 1 November 2013 09: 03 New
    +9
    After the Great Victory, the country rebelled from the ruins and was rebuilt! People lived in the future and created it.
    And after the death of Stalin and the accession to the throne of the Corn Botanist, priorities in life began to change. And they did it before the collapse of the Empire! Before the collapse of a great idea. We live in the ruins of the Empire and understand that we will never feel such universal confidence in the future, such reliability and joy. Citizens of the USSR were protected from world problems. Citizens of the Russian Federation live at the center of these problems. And it is sour ...
    1. saha6052
      saha6052 1 November 2013 13: 51 New
      -1
      The project was sentenced by the Bureaucracy with Stalin in the role of the monarch (Reaction), and the Botinkers are a surrogate for the elite, which, as Khrushchev said, although it remembered why this "PORSE" was brewed, but was decidedly not ready for Progress and simply parasitized on -MYTHE, until complete exhaustion and surrender to Capital, which not only did not destroy the elite (passionary) component, but also developed and began to dominate the humanitarian trend, turning dialectic adherents into its victims.
  10. Normal
    Normal 1 November 2013 09: 16 New
    +7
    Nothing can be brought to the point of absurdity. Any most beautiful undertaking, the most radiant idea can be turned into its opposite, if you give it to the propagandists on salary.
    The gap between what was broadcast from the screens and what was in real life was too great. Yes, a correct working life on the screen raised self-esteem, but when leaving the gate of the enterprise or entering the store, a person saw the difference between propaganda and reality. One could (and should) put up with this, since "difficulties" are a necessary addition to happiness. But, repeated and long-term exploitation of enthusiasm, the constant promise of happiness somewhere out there, in the future, if it is impossible in the present, and the obvious sweet life of those who called and propagandized, ultimately led to a natural result - we stopped believing
    1. pahom54
      pahom54 1 November 2013 10: 12 New
      +9
      You contradict yourself ... Then - "there is everything on the screens - and nothing in the shops" ... And now - on the screens and in the stores everything is full, AND DOES EVERYONE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THESE GOODS? As well as personal cars, comfortable housing, yachts and so on ...
      Then I’ll say harshly: then at least I would promise HAPPINESS to common people - TOMORROW, AND NOW NO ONE PROMISES IT TO YOU !!! And though those authorities also treated the people like cattle, but they gave him the opportunity to somehow live and survive, and now ... And now people don’t need them for hell, and they THINK ONLY ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL HAPPINESS! Catch the difference ???
      1. Normal
        Normal 2 November 2013 02: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: pahom54
        You contradict yourself ...

        Sorry, but I do not see the contradictions
        Quote: pahom54
        And now - and on screens and in stores everything is full, AND DOES EVERYONE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THESE GOODS? As well as personal cars, comfortable housing, yachts and so on ...

        But do I say that now is better than then? Or do you think that I use yachts and comfortable accommodation?
        Quote: pahom54
        Then I’ll say harshly: then at least I would promise HAPPINESS to common people - TOMORROW, AND NOW NO ONE PROMISES IT TO YOU !!!

        Yes, I agree with you, Do not break in the open door. I am more likely for that system, life and human relations that were under the Union than for this ... there are no decent words. I just drew attention to the fact that nothing can be brought to the point of absurdity. What exactly thoughtless, often straightforward and frankly stupid propaganda led to the opposite of the stated goals result.
        Quote: pahom54
        Catch the difference ???

        Yes of course! Should I not catch it. It’s just that I don’t look into the past through pink glasses, but to the present ... my eyes would not look.
    2. saha6052
      saha6052 1 November 2013 13: 44 New
      -1
      "ultimately led to a natural result - we stopped believing" - in general, the paradigm of the Project required - to know, and not to believe Honduras (nomenclature), therefore: I somehow did not believe a single word of Stalin from political studies and tried understand-Lenin (although his wife does not like both of them, and after all, throwing everything into a LOT is not a big deal.
  11. Stinger
    Stinger 1 November 2013 09: 16 New
    10
    Is it better to yell Hurray at a demonstration or guard on the street?
  12. zasxdcfvv
    zasxdcfvv 1 November 2013 09: 40 New
    +5
    can anyone remember the Soviet film-fairytale Puss in Boots? They locked the princess in the bedroom and read negative tales, and she was sick. The golden rule 9 to 1 works on the contrary, 1 to 9. The chief editors of channels and newspapers work in the State Department.
  13. Stas57
    Stas57 1 November 2013 09: 50 New
    +4
    I was fine then.
    and now it’s hard for me, probably age)))
    1. In the book
      In the book 1 November 2013 17: 59 New
      +1
      laughing
      Sorry, I remembered Panikovsky: "I'm old, girls don't like me"
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 1 November 2013 22: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Libr
        grow up, what did Panikovsky remember: "I'm old, girls don't like me"
        - Libre, you inadvertently suggest to him "good medicine" laughing
        If the spleen attacks, I will rush about for some girl (well, again, everything is relative, for whom the girl, for whom the child is generally young, and for whom Madame is from Balzac) and surprisingly, everything goes away, life is painted again. But wink Shh, let Stas57 not know about it, let him be depressed, otherwise the girls won't be enough for everyone.
  14. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 1 November 2013 09: 59 New
    +2
    Happiness and misfortune are sides of the same coin. After the trials that fell to our people, a simple peaceful life was happiness. But eternal happiness does not exist. Over time, it becomes the usual routine, even calm life called stagnation. When the time of change came, we, looking back, realized that we had lost. There is no happiness in the present, no confidence in the future. And if there is no understanding in society and the ruling circles that happiness needs to be built, to fight for it, then we will never see this blue bird, we will enjoy the small feathers in the greedy hands of those who managed to snatch, but cannot use it.
  15. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 1 November 2013 10: 00 New
    +6
    The concept of happiness is exaggerated today, simplified to vulgarity. Happiness is presented as a set of material goods. A person has been taught to strive for such happiness since childhood. Investing incredible efforts, and achieving certain successes, a person does not find happiness. He seeks further and further, and still there is no happiness. And having lived half their lives, some realize that they were deceived. However, most of the rest of the life runs after the ghost of material happiness. What is happiness in my understanding? The first and most important thing is to be healthy, many people do not even understand this. The second is life for the sake of creation, and not for consumption, even less people understand this. The Soviet government, of course, tried to educate us just like that, only when the government lives only for its own benefits, then who will believe it that the rest should live for the sake of creation. So dishonest authorities ruined the society of builders of a happy society
    1. artifox
      artifox 1 November 2013 10: 22 New
      0
      Well, this is just the planting of the "American Dream" - we will grow a consumer society - so that they ate, multiply, accumulate material wealth and think about nothing else - happiness in ourselves.
      But I think everything will be corrected - there are already changes for the better, although of course much slower than sliding towards this very "American Dream"
  16. saha6052
    saha6052 1 November 2013 10: 05 New
    +3
    Happiness is a kind of euphoria of feelings that is not entirely amenable to critical analysis (situational joy, orgasm, drop dead impressions that cannot be continuous, since the process of continuity itself devalues ​​and makes routine any processes). As for the -specifically-Soviet? the world of necessity into the world of Reason (expediency_that is, the attempt of Reason to overcome the "Procrustean bed" of instincts (the floor of the Conscious person, the antipode of the animal, preoccupied with the survival of the species). If schematically: subconsciousness, consciousness, super-consciousness or Childhood (material period), youth- Conscious (project period) and Harmony of Spirit and Nature (expansion into the Universe). The truth is not an answer to the question: what is better to shout-Hurray? Or -Caraul? But we must admit: the charge of Humanism (and this is the quintessence, Meaning nature-Man-in nature neither evil nor -Good exists, as, however, and Nature itself without its Measure-Man) turned out to be very wealthy, even against the background of the victory of the Reaction, there are not so many Heroes for the triumph of Evil ev, ready to sacrifice themselves, how much for the triumph of Good. Of course, the theory of the Project turned out to be crude, without sufficient intellectual support, and therefore was "entrusted" to the Bureaucracy, i.e., laziness, stupidity, mediocrity, venality and a whole heap of merits of this Curse of humanity: Herostrata, Procrustes, Judas with the voices of Sirens-complexes that even formal power and its privileges cannot fully compensate for - the pigsty's happiness wants the status quo! - even if - against this - Dialectics.
  17. pahom54
    pahom54 1 November 2013 10: 06 New
    +6
    It is possible to say about "happiness in the Soviet way" ambiguously ... As far as I understood, the author of the article himself did not specifically define the core of his article. Yes, we can say that the USSR was a totalitarian state, yes, we were brought up on cliches (remember only one "ideal" - Pavlik Morozov) starting from kindergarten ... Yes, there was no savoring of catastrophes in newspapers and on television, although they were then ... Yes, they tried to stuff us only with positive ...
    But I do not agree with the author’s position that she draws a parallel between the Soviet positive and the Western clownish-zombie-stupid attitude of the pro-American peoples. Yes, a lot can be called bad in the USSR, a lot. But compared to the USSR, IS MANY GOOD NOW in modern Russia ??? If you begin to conduct a serious analysis, then analytics (unbiased, of course) will be very difficult ...
    Whatever you say, I was personally born in the USSR, although my parents and grandparents did not belong to the nomenlatura strata, I wasn’t naked, naked, hungry, I got a higher education without any pulls and payments, at one time, again, without pull-payments I got a good apartment - here I already had to resort to pulls and overpayments to buy a TV-refrigerator-wall. There were no problems with a kindergarten for children. All this is already a plus for "Soviet happiness".
    The downside could be the dominance of the ideology of the CPSU, however ... consider the current time.
    Now freedom - eat - I do not want !!! In stores - everything is there! In any university do, there would be grandmothers!
    Well ... And then ... ???
    And then you conjecture yourself.
    So the author, in my opinion, should not have so ironically said about "Soviet happiness" ...
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 1 November 2013 10: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: pahom54
      Yes, we can say that the USSR was a totalitarian state, yes, we were brought up on stamps
      Then they shouted: "Stagnation!", And now they recall with a sigh: "Stability!"
      And stamps are an interesting thing. Of particular interest is a stamp on almost any product of the USSR - a stamp indicating the price taking into account the sales area, now it’s even wild to imagine - there is a price and it does not change for years (!)
      1. Starfish
        Starfish 1 November 2013 10: 56 New
        +5
        "there is a price and it hasn't changed for years (!)"

        she was changing. somehow he crawled into a dilapidated hut and found old student notebooks in the attic. starting from 195 .. some year.
        so the price every 2-3 years there on notebooks decreased.
      2. saha6052
        saha6052 1 November 2013 16: 06 New
        +1
        "And stamps are an interesting thing." - busy stamp - Quality mark, does anyone remember? - when he appeared, Dad asked me: son, are you a conspiracy therapist? - Explain: why does he look like a little Pentagon? - I say: Dad, you yourself are the question was answered, this is called mockery of a killed opponent (branding).
  18. Revolver
    Revolver 1 November 2013 10: 12 New
    +4
    Example. All the scribblers called and shouted about the failures with Proton, interrupting popular bloggers and savoring it almost as Putin's personal failure. And here is the notice that "... the Russian launch vehicle" Proton-M "successfully delivered the American satellite Sirius FM-6 to the target orbit," Interfax dryly reported and in the blogs - deathly silence about this.
    "If a dog bites a man, that's not news. News is if a man bites a dog." This provision was deduced in the American press either at the beginning of the past, or at the end of the century before last. And already at the time of perestroika, I don't remember who said something like "Locksmith Ivanov came home after the shift - not news. News is if he got drunk and made a brawl with a fight." And in what way is Proton-M better than Ivanov, a locksmith or a dog? Just larger and more expensive.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 1 November 2013 22: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Nagan
      And in what way is Proton-M better than Ivanov, a locksmith or a dog? Just larger and more expensive.
      - thank. The conclusion is simple - down with the private and as if nobody controlled by the media - then it is controlled by the market, which dictates that in order for the news to be sold, you need to look for them. What is news?
      Quote: Nagan
      "Locksmith Ivanov came home after the shift - not news. News - if he got drunk and made a brawl with a fight."

      Well, everything is clear. Next is the feedback. It’s like rubbish. If I finish smoking a cigarette, and around the licked paving slabs, as soon as you throw the goby, it is all in plain sight and immediately catches the eye of all passers-by. Involuntarily you start looking for the urn. And if it’s filthy around, then throwing a goby is not a question. From here - through the presence or absence of garbage on the street, you are already quite accurately informed how to deal with a smoked cigarette. In the case of a stream of negative news, a similar effect arises - hence the need to dance.
      But after all, posted above, well, we will ban private media - we will involuntarily surrender these media to the bureaucracy, and we have already gone through this. Boring programs "Harvest Hour", etc. Among them, of course, there are things that still exist - such as "KVN", "What? Where? When?", "Obvious - incredible" (may the earth rest in peace to Great Kapitsa!) And "Club of film travelers" with Senkevich, but on the whole it is mortal boredom.
      In general, the task of the media is not an easy task. Let sociologists think about it, they have a big head.
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  20. 4952915
    4952915 1 November 2013 10: 22 New
    +7
    In the Soviet Union, people snickered elementarily - complete safety, free apartments, minimum necessary expenses, etc. People from boredom and satiety (and under the influence of the Yakovlevsky agitprop, of course) went crazy together and decided that all this will not go anywhere, if you add to this the collapse of the state, organized crime, privatization, unemployment ... They left the sluggish discussions about happiness denial of happiness in general.
    In the USSR, there were no barriers to personal happiness (if, in a personal view, happiness does not necessarily imply being a millionaire, dissident or mafia boss), the conditions for this were created - no one died of hunger, did not live on the streets, work in bulk - at least where you get a job ... You could afford to waste time on a hobby - even if you cut it on a yacht, even on a glider, even go for a drive around the Union on vacation, even go as tourists and in the mountains, climb the taiga (it was especially popular). All this is either free of charge or for a nominal fee. It seems to me that a normal person was quite enough for a comfortable life. And so happiness, of course, is very individual. And regarding the "bird of happiness" - the general mood in the USSR was as follows - every next year will be about the same, or a little better. Therefore, the general atmosphere is stability with gradual improvement. There are no hidden and sinister meanings in primitive pop music, even though the Soviet one is not.
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  22. Starfish
    Starfish 1 November 2013 10: 54 New
    +1
    "What is happiness in the Soviet way?"

    philosophical question. each has its own answer.
    I personally had a happy Soviet childhood.
  23. VI Kacheev
    VI Kacheev 1 November 2013 10: 56 New
    +4
    Quote: 4952915
    People from boredom and satiety (and under [b] the influence of [/ b] Yakovlevsky agitprop, ...
    - highlighted by me.
    Of all the comments - the first hint that the USSR (Soviet happiness, the Soviet way of life) [b] was destroyed by the Politburo of the CPSU! [/ B] The location of this body is Moscow or, in one stroke, [b] Muscovy. [/ B ]
    The Politburo, according to the ideology of communism, preached that the capitalism of the West and the socialism of the USSR were opponents. How did it turn out that part of the Politburo of the CPSU became, from the ideological opponents of the West, [b] HIS PARTIES?! [/ B]
    [b] Let's just say - they became traitors to the party and all ordinary mortals !!! [/ b]
    However, another thing is true - there wasn’t, [b] WOULD BE ONE, [/ b] STRIKES in support of the Soviet way of life!
    I will offer the public such an understanding of the events that have taken place. The center of betrayal was, [b] AND REMAINS, [/ b] Muscovy - [b] now the center of the colonial administration! [/ B] The intellectual level of the majority of the population is such that it [B] IS NOT ABLE TO DISTINCT THE TRUTH FROM A LIE! [/ B]
    It’s just that Muscovites are more [b] cunning, [/ b] than the rest of the population of Russia - they were the first to throw a white flag - [b] USEFUL! [/ B]
    b] Such, in my understanding, is a harsh homespun truth! [/ b]
  24. VI Kacheev
    VI Kacheev 1 November 2013 10: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: 4952915
    People from boredom and satiety (and under [b] the influence of [/ b] Yakovlevsky agitprop, ...
    - highlighted by me.
    Of all the comments - the first hint that the USSR (Soviet happiness, the Soviet way of life) [b] was destroyed by the Politburo of the CPSU! [/ B] The location of this body is Moscow or, in one stroke, [b] Muscovy. [/ B ]
    The Politburo, according to the ideology of communism, preached that the capitalism of the West and the socialism of the USSR were opponents. How did it turn out that part of the Politburo of the CPSU became, from the ideological opponents of the West, [b] HIS PARTIES?! [/ B]
    [b] Let's just say - they became traitors to the party and all ordinary mortals !!! [/ b]
    However, another thing is true - there wasn’t, [b] WOULD BE ONE, [/ b] STRIKES in support of the Soviet way of life!
    I will offer the public such an understanding of the events that have taken place. The center of betrayal was, [b] AND REMAINS, [/ b] Muscovy - [b] now the center of the colonial administration! [/ B] The intellectual level of the majority of the population is such that it [B] IS NOT ABLE TO DISTINCT THE TRUTH FROM A LIE! [/ B]
    It’s just that Muscovites are more [b] cunning, [/ b] than the rest of the population of Russia - they were the first to throw a white flag - [b] USEFUL! [/ B]
    b] Such, in my understanding, is a harsh homespun truth! [/ b]
  25. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 1 November 2013 11: 01 New
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  26. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 1 November 2013 11: 14 New
    +4
    It is insulting and painful. Replaced the dream with difficulty in achieving it (as if it were not awkward) with pragmatism and ... immediately collapse. sad
    I just heard on the news that Judah Kudrin returned to power ... angry
    Something all this will turn into.
    1. saha6052
      saha6052 1 November 2013 16: 10 New
      -1
      Where everything is built on - Pragmatism, nothing ever collapses, but castles on the sand? - Brzezinski jogged and collapsed the Emerald City with all its inflated "wizards" - hence the bewilderment and bitterness of disappointment.
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 1 November 2013 16: 20 New
        0
        Quote: saha6052
        Where everything is built on - Pragmatism, nothing ever collapses, but castles on the sand? - Brzezinski jogged and collapsed the Emerald City with all its inflated "wizards" - hence the bewilderment and bitterness of disappointment.

        How old are you? I will not comment on your stream of consciousness, so as not to humiliate or humiliate. I won’t even put a minus, because it is not even worthy of a minus. hi
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    2. saha6052
      saha6052 1 November 2013 20: 16 New
      0
      "Is it insulting and painful?" - these are complexes (a favorite pastime of single women) - "collapse" began in 24 (this is for those who understand what collapse is). The foundation of the Revolution is Marxism, and this is not Faith and not dream, and science (political economy and philosophy) is the pinnacle (at that time) of humanitarian knowledge, which presupposes: equality, brotherhood, happiness for labor and creative unions and classes, i.e. Subjective, expedient social projection-do you understand what this is about? -This is Pragmatism, and not chaotic floundering in a web of instincts, fraught with crises and disasters-Worker-peasant ideology (not to be confused with religion and idiotic dreams of a slave to become a Barin). Well: a few accents done-work and continue to "humiliate" the Dreamers.
  27. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 1 November 2013 11: 16 New
    +5
    indifference in the Soviet system of values ​​was considered the greatest of sins

    I think this is the red thread of the article. On my own I would add, there was also a sense of belonging, confidence in the future. Well, the fact that there was no abundance in the stores, but the food was edible, and the goods were of high quality. Now there is "abundance", just what?
  28. Alex 241
    Alex 241 1 November 2013 11: 21 New
    +4
    Hi Andryush, just in the news story about a veteran tanker, 89 years old, lives in a hut, turned to the authorities for housing, but he is not on the lists, he is not at all. It was only because the journalists intervened and promised to solve the problem. the fat faces of officials, you can’t say differently, and one question: What are you all doing, for what are you generally smoking the sky!
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 1 November 2013 11: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Alex 241
      Hi Andryush, just in the news story about a veteran tanker, 89 years old, lives in a hut, turned to the authorities for housing, but he is not on the lists, he is not at all. It was only because the journalists intervened and promised to solve the problem. the fat faces of officials, you can’t say differently, and one question: What are you all doing, for what are you generally smoking the sky!

      Hi Sasha!
      I can’t imagine how everything should go so that all this abomination ceases.
  29. yan
    yan 1 November 2013 11: 42 New
    +6
    The Soviet Union is probably the only empire in which they are nostalgic. Unfortunately, you begin to understand the good over time. But the state was not saved. Now reaping
  30. zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 1 November 2013 11: 45 New
    -1
    The article is good, I liked it.
    Only a picture ... "Peace and Happiness 1956"
    Interestingly, the Hungarians also thought so then?
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 1 November 2013 12: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      The article is good, I liked it.
      Only a picture ... "Peace and Happiness 1956"
      Interestingly, the Hungarians also thought so then?

      What does the Hungarians have to do with it? The events of 1956 in Budapest and a couple of places in Hungary, to the Hungarians themselves, in general, had no negative relation. This was the suppression of the fascist rebellion (Hungary was Hitler's satellite and the fascists ruled it), for which the Hungarian people, by the way, are very grateful.
      You are a victim of anti-Soviet agitprop. hi
      1. goldfinger
        goldfinger 1 November 2013 12: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Peaceful military
        What does the Hungarians have to do with it? The events of 1956 in Budapest and a couple of places in Hungary, to the Hungarians themselves, in general, had no negative relation. This was the suppression of the fascist rebellion (Hungary was Hitler's satellite and the fascists ruled it), for which the Hungarian people, by the way, are very grateful. You are a victim of anti-Soviet agitprop.

        Neighbor is Belarusian. All the time I thought that Hungarians live in Budapest. Thank you enlightened. I see that you and the ethnographer are knowledgeable. I didn't know that a fascist is a nationality. Yes, and in history they made the discovery that in 1956 sic! Hungary was ruled by Hitler's satellites (one "t" and two "l"). And there - to glue the labels! "Historian-ethnographer" of the Soviet igitprop of the 50s! Accept and so on.
        1. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 1 November 2013 13: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: goldfinger
          All the time I thought that Hungarians live in Budapest. Thank you enlightened. I see that you and the ethnographer are knowledgeable. I didn't know that a fascist is a nationality. Yes, and in history they made the discovery that in 1956 sic! Hungary was ruled by Hitler's satellites (one "t" and two "l"). And there - to glue the labels! "Historian-ethnographer" of the Soviet igitprop of the 50s! Accept and so on.


          you have learned to read, but not to understand what you read. Hungary was the most faithful ally of the Nazis during the war. After the liberation of Hungary, a lot of fascists hid, and simply prepared a coup, not without the help of the West. Well, yes, for you this is certainly news, and in general the Soviet agitation industry. You are best informed of who and what and where. You believe only in Western information sources, the most honest, the most independent, and the most informed. Although it’s precisely these not-so-smart people that they (the Western media) are designed for.
        2. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 1 November 2013 14: 16 New
          0
          Quote: goldfinger
          Quote: Peaceful military
          What does the Hungarians have to do with it? The events of 1956 in Budapest and a couple of places in Hungary, to the Hungarians themselves, in general, had no negative relation. This was the suppression of the fascist rebellion (Hungary was Hitler's satellite and the fascists ruled it), for which the Hungarian people, by the way, are very grateful. You are a victim of anti-Soviet agitprop.

          Neighbor is Belarusian. All the time I thought that Hungarians live in Budapest. Thank you enlightened. I see that you and the ethnographer are knowledgeable. I didn't know that a fascist is a nationality. Yes, and in history they made the discovery that in 1956 sic! Hungary was ruled by Hitler's satellites (one "t" and two "l"). And there - to glue the labels! "Historian-ethnographer" of the Soviet igitprop of the 50s! Accept and so on.

          How old are you? And when did Belarus side by side with Estonia? fool
          1. goldfinger
            goldfinger 1 November 2013 16: 28 New
            0
            My years are my wealth! As the former neighbor of Soviet Estonia Kikabidze sings. I thought that the flag of independent Estonia was needed for disguise. It is strange from the Estonian to hear the collapsed Soviet agitprop, especially of his most deceitful, hardened period.
            Quote: Peaceful military
            How old are you? And when did Belarus side by side with Estonia?
      2. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 1 November 2013 15: 07 New
        0
        You are a victim of Soviet propaganda ... study history, my friend, or at least read what the Hungarians write about these events.
        I am sincerely sorry for you
        especially since I have never denied the achievements of the USSR.
      3. pensioner
        pensioner 1 November 2013 17: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Peaceful military
        You are a victim of anti-Soviet agitprop.

        Not. Not agitprop ... Simpler than nature negative .
        1. zmey_gadukin
          zmey_gadukin 1 November 2013 20: 51 New
          0
          your comments are as always thoughtful)))))
          continue to please us further
          I just love your humorous matches
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 1 November 2013 21: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: zmey_gadukin
            I just love your humorous matches

            Flattered hi
      4. In the book
        In the book 1 November 2013 18: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Peaceful military
        It was a suppression of the fascist rebellion.

        My father-in-law, who was in 1956 in Hungary, told a completely different story.
        Not happily, Hungary met the Soviet army.
        1. Denis
          Denis 1 November 2013 21: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: Libr
          Not happily, Hungary met the Soviet army.
          And who would ask these Hitler sixes?
          11 years have passed since the end of the Second World War, and their filthy role in it is known. So let them rejoice that they easily got off
    2. 4952915
      4952915 3 November 2013 15: 00 New
      0
      The Hungarians did not think, the Hungarians stubbornly spent American dollars and, under the strict guidance of the West, cut, hung, burned ... By the way, the West does not hide it much (that the Hungarian massacre was organized by them), for example, Forsyth calmly writes in his fighters that the massacre was organized by Western intelligence.
  31. dropout
    dropout 1 November 2013 12: 55 New
    +1
    First of all, I remembered Mayakovsky: "The one who is constantly cheerful is simply stupid in my opinion."
    But that chernukha which feed us now .....
    I can’t even find a name for her.
  32. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 1 November 2013 13: 26 New
    0
    I still do not understand what is Soviet happiness?
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 1 November 2013 17: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Alexandr0id
      I still do not understand what is Soviet happiness?

      I will answer, as I understand it. Happiness is living in this country. Every day and every moment. This must be experienced. Explain - will not work. This is the same as if I were explaining to you the taste of a cocoon in relation to a tomato ...
      1. Alexandr0id
        Alexandr0id 1 November 2013 23: 23 New
        -3
        He lived in that country for 13 years, all the positive memories are connected with relatives and friends, and the environment (country) was poor and kind of idiotic.
        1. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 2 November 2013 15: 06 New
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          Quote: Alexandr0id
          He lived in that country for 13 years, all the positive memories are connected with relatives and friends, and the environment (country) was poor and kind of idiotic.

          So you have nothing to remember. Until 10 years you still, like any average boy, had no brains, and for the last 3 years you could only see the abomination and squalor of a being killed. The USSR did not die, it was killed, as from the inside (as you remember), that from the outside.
          Unlike you, I lived in the USSR for 30 years and, taking into account the arithmetic that I have given, I consciously remember 20 years. So I have something to remember, what to compare with and what to grieve for. hi
    2. saha6052
      saha6052 2 November 2013 07: 06 New
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      If you are just a decent person, then the very formulation of the question - "Soviet happiness?" - is not correct or simply vulgar. The Soviet is an attempt to implement a humanitarian project, which took a huge amount of time (several generations), and the concept of happiness is situational-emotional and outside the concrete subject, it is simply ridiculous, it is said about happiness, but it means forms of purposeful existence in which - happiness enters a psychological element. It is necessary to discuss - the Project in general and only then - the elements, among which - happiness - a psycho-emotional state, extremely dependent on more general conditions Being that determines everything: philosophy, ideology, politics, economics, sociology, group and individual psychology.
  33. twister
    twister 1 November 2013 13: 50 New
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    There is happiness, it cannot but exist !!!
  34. alicante11
    alicante11 1 November 2013 14: 44 New
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    Happiness what is happiness? This is when a person is calm. I am calm about what to eat today and tomorrow, the day after tomorrow it will be possible to set the table with relatives or sit with friends in a cafe or with his wife in a restaurant. I am calm about the fact that there is a roof over my head and it will not leave in case of debt for a "mortgage" or the inability to pay rent. He is calm that his children are not in any danger at home or on the street and that when they grow up, they will be able to find their way in life without breaking through like an icebreaker through heavy ice. I am calm that there is where to spend my free time and that it is itself. At the same time, even the unloved work will be transferred much easier. Because that's only 40 hours out of 168, not counting vacations. That is, less than a quarter of your time. We had all this in the USSR. Therefore, we were happy.
    Are any of the living people happy? Let's not talk about ordinary people. Those who live in a stone jungle among predators-cops and migrants who cannot decide to have more than one child, because at any moment their financial situation may change, and there is no need to talk about education and housing for children. Etc. etc. Each of us is in this position. Someone is struggling, someone has already surrendered and is going with the flow. But are the "masters of life" happy? Doesn't the same domoklav, the sword of the instant loss of everything, wealth, the status of freedom, and even life, hang over them? After all, take Berezovsky - how high did he fly? And how painfully he smacked. The best English friends he worked for whispered worse than a thief in the doorway. And so is every oligarch. An official or a cop walks constantly under the threat of landing for bribes. And an honest person can be jailed for not taking bribes. The top manager constantly thinks whether he is good at licking his boss's ass. Do you think that VVP is happy when the tortured Gaddafi and the hanged Saddam are constantly in front of our eyes, and there are thieves and jackals-oligarchs around, who are with him until it is profitable and will hand over everything together at any opportunity?
    So why did we exchange the happiness of living under the USSR for the misfortune of living in the Russian Federation? And we did not exchange. We, or rather, our parents, were not asked. Our leaders betrayed us, confused us and stole our happiness. However, they, too, were deceived. They thought that if they secured for themselves the benefits that were used as the Soviet political elite under capitalist laws, they could be confident in the future. But it turned out that under capitalism it is much easier to lose these privileges than under socialism. And so they FAT. They are trying to get drunk from the belly so that there is at least something to remember, if that ... Hence yachts, limousines, planes, million-dollar mansions, slave-minions. And there is no turning back, because they cannot stop, because they are afraid. If the shark stops, then it will drown :(.
  35. uizik
    uizik 1 November 2013 15: 13 New
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    Happiness is the highest emotional state of a person. It is impossible to achieve such happiness with the help of material wealth. The purchase of a bottle of beer or a golden toilet bowl will not make happy for a long time.
    1. In the book
      In the book 1 November 2013 18: 07 New
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      Quote: uizik
      The acquisition of ... a golden toilet will not make happy

      But Janek thinks that his toilet bowl with rhinestones will make happy wink
  36. Taoist
    Taoist 1 November 2013 16: 06 New
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    "A person wants happiness. All of the listed benefits are associated with
    happiness. He believes that if he possesses them, he will be happy.
    What does he have?
    It is logical to assume that the more a person has these benefits - the more he
    happier. Who is healthy, rich, glorified, respected, travels the world - he
    happy. And whoever is poor, sick and unknown is unhappy.
    An FIG. Movie stars are treated for depression and swallow drugs.
    Ruined financiers fly out of the windows, although there is still money left for life.
    The big men drink too much, the beauties suffer because of unhappy love and betrayal.
    Wealthy fathers of families quietly languish on adventure, and adventurers on
    well-being.
    In the most prosperous civilized countries, where freedom, money, and
    plastic surgery - a high suicide rate. And in the poor African
    feed the countries, start a little music, they grin and dance, and no one hangs himself. BUT
    Swedes hang themselves, although for happiness they have on average the maximum conditions.
    As my grandmother used to say - "Everything is there - there is no happiness."

    Personal values ​​mean that the personality is good. Attitude towards them
    consumer. This man wants and does in the name of himself. Can
    transfer:
    wealth;
    physical and physiological;
    sensual (varied);
    social (career);
    prestigious;
    professional;
    aesthetic;
    Creative
    intellectual
    - you can select more, you can expand each item, but that's it
    clear.
    The presence of transpersonal value is a sign of quality on a person. Mark
    high house. She means: this one is more than just it, it is only visible
    part of wow what.
    If you try to classify, transpersonal values ​​may be:
    family:
    group;
    national, state, ethnic;
    professional;
    religious;
    universal; - moral ones are very close to them;
    Creative - they are in the broad sense constructive.
    That is - o-pa: transpersonal value is a system-forming
    factor. Possession of it connects a person to the system and into the system - whether
    group, people, religion, science or art. Not on its own, but part
    whole. And in the system, a person develops more energy and does more. "(C)

    http://lib.ru/WELLER/kassandra.txt

    Highly recommend reading. Many things will become clearer, much clearer ...
    1. saha6052
      saha6052 2 November 2013 06: 50 New
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      You have a Taoist, everything is in order with competence and schematism, can you explain: why are people ready to discuss anything except the "Soviet Project?", Even if the Soviet theme is positioned by the Author, but the Left Project is not Sweden, and so called "civilized", but fundamentally different and if the intentions and declarations did not coincide with the Practice (a capricious lady in all respects), then there were reasons for that? I would like to observe the analysis with your inherent schematism and meticulousness.
      1. Taoist
        Taoist 3 November 2013 01: 37 New
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        Well, for a start, it would be worthwhile to define the concepts - after all, under the term "Soviet project" everyone understands their own. Again ... what do you mean "not ready to discuss"? We are ready to discuss something ... to do not. Again, at what level can we discuss this? Conceptually? Eventful? Energy? If interested, let’s try to formulate your questions more precisely ... and I will try to answer them to the best of my ability and competence. And here's another "squiggle" - all this will still remain my IMHO and nothing more ...
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        2. saha6052
          saha6052 3 November 2013 08: 58 New
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          Let's try, well, you are a good fellow, I, as it seems to me, are a supporter of randomness in any methodology, and you have everything on the shelves, well, let's in order: conceptual, informational, energetic and event-driven (although I believe: event-based is a synthesis above the indicated substances). As for the-Level, this will be clarified by the discussion, maybe we don't need a Judge (expert), maybe we'll figure it out ourselves. “We’re ready to discuss it ... we don’t do it.” - I can be wrong, but I’m not ready to discuss it, where there is no clarity of understanding, only vanity and mistakes are possible (the poke method). The Soviet Project is an attempt to practically implement the humanitarian trend - overcoming the conservatism of Matter (the umbilical cord of objective laws) and a breakthrough from the world of necessity into the world of Reason, schematically: subconsciousness (instincts, reflexes), Consciousness (subjective, expedient
          miscellaneous) and super-consciousness (harmony of the organic and the subjective). I don’t think that the Humanitarian Project had no chance, although it “ran into” a bunch of “reefs”: the absence of a mature theory, tested in other, smaller-scale attempts (utopia, as architecture does not count), feudal, albeit with an advanced intelligentsia, the country is a great threat to the Reaction, which put an end to the Revolution, but not yet evening, but after Lenin's death, even without "grains" of project consciousness (creative) and nothing the Project had no choice but to perish in the rut of a reanimated empire and monarchy, but the mass consciousness raised by education (humanities was killed), art, propaganda and the illusion of equality by the imitated Bureaucracy, which received from the flawed Project, the absolute status of domination and the preferences associated with it, and the mass consciousness does not want to agree with the historical defeat in rights and opportunities - maybe the game is not over yet? - the society took a break in the ROLL back of the criminal archaic.
  37. serge
    serge 1 November 2013 16: 36 New
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    Happiness as such cannot be a permanent state of the human soul, because it can never be. Human nature is such that, having happily reached the goal, a person calms down only for a short period, after which he again appears dissatisfied with the current moment and sets a new goal. That is why the achievement of universal permanent happiness is impossible in principle. Happiness, the golden age, or whatever else is always there, either in the future or in the past, but very rarely and for a short time - in the present. No frozen ideology, socialism, capitalism, anarchism, imperialism, nationalism, any -ism can ever make a person happy. The greatest satisfaction to a person is given by his favorite work to achieve the goal. The peak of satisfaction in achieving the goal is happiness. Happiness is what is called a moment between the past and the future. In the USSR, the ideology of moderate happiness achieved (communism was complete) was actually declared. That was a mistake. In the USSR, there was no criticism of the existing ideology. And for ideology to develop, it needs criticism. The ideology in the USSR was not bad, but it did not develop, and not a developing ideology dies, which happened. The theory of complete and absolute happiness in the USSR was the coming communism, but the practical path to this communism itself was not developed, the ideology of communism was not creative, it was replaced by the crude theory of general material prosperity, which is why it collapsed. In order for society as a whole to feel satisfied with life, it needs a goal, it is the meaning of the life of society, it is, as they now like to put it, a national idea. As the goal is achieved, it should be modified or a new goal should be set so that the meaning of the life of society is not lost, since there is no and cannot be eternal or even simply extremely long-lasting happiness.
  38. goldfinger
    goldfinger 1 November 2013 17: 40 New
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    From Minsk. The concept of happiness is too comprehensive.
    The Belarusians, they laugh themselves - "a cold glass, and a hot crackling!"
    Once an oriental sage was asked - "What is happiness, O Wise One?"
    He replied - "Look, about Turkish delight of my heart, on a hot day in tight boots, and in the evening, in the shade of a plane tree, take off your shoes by the murmuring irrigation ditch, and dip your feet into the cool water!"
    1. In the book
      In the book 1 November 2013 18: 08 New
      +2
      I recalled a Jewish joke:

      A Jew comes to the synagogue.
      - Rebbe! Give me an advice! I live with four children, with my wife, with my mother-in-law, there’s nowhere to turn around ...
      How to live further?
      The Rebbe calmly says:
      - Buy a goat.
      The rabbi’s advice is law, the Jew went and bought a goat.

      It takes some time. He comes to the rabbi again.
      - Rebbe, what have you done ?! I have a crazy house in the room: the children walk around on their heads, the mother-in-law is old, sick, and the goat is standing here - it occupies almost the whole room, bleats ... What should I do, rabbi?
      - Sell the goat.
      - Rebbe, I do not understand: either "buy a goat", then "sell a goat ...".
      - Listen to me: immediately sell the goat.
      It takes some time. The same Jew comes to the rabbi again.
      - Dear rabbi! How grateful to you! I didn’t know that I was such a happy person! ...
  39. andrey0907
    andrey0907 1 November 2013 19: 06 New
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    ""
    Quote: serge
    Sweeter, perhaps, it became, but better, alas.

    I completely agree. I seem to have plenty, and I like work, and many of our family envy us, but I don’t feel happy. When the student was hungry, he dreamed of eating normally and at the same time was happy. Now I can eat, and there is prosperity, and a house and cars, but I do not feel happiness. There is no purpose. No not like this: GOALS, Ideas for which I would like to fight, give all my best. Friends advise, like, get involved in business, turn around there, but I'm bored of making money and managing people. For me, money and power are just tools, not an end in itself. But for the GOAL, any idea could have been, but for myself it’s boring.
    Quote: alicante11
    Happiness what is happiness? This is when a person is calm.

    I do not agree. As I said, I have peace of mind. This is not happiness, but a swamp.
  40. Gato
    Gato 1 November 2013 21: 03 New
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    social optimism, so popular in the USSR

    If anyone remembers, the Strugatskys introduced the term "XXI century, noon" into circulation. It is a pity that it did not come true.
    Personally, I really liked this aesthetics, although, by the nature of the service, it is much closer to "A beetle in an anthill"
  41. Tyumen
    Tyumen 1 November 2013 22: 52 New
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    Very good, thanks, Galina. Only it became sad again ...
  42. Governor
    Governor 5 November 2013 02: 07 New
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    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: /// j
    So what exactly is “Soviet-style happiness”?



    And what is there. We lived and thought that it would be better, but now we live and think that it will only get worse.

    Thanks to people like you, of course, it will be worse ... Although no, you are too few.