In Novosibirsk, will show the layout of a secret nuclear submarine

During the first International Forum on Technological Development, which will be held in Novosibirsk 14-15 in November, the original model of the new-generation submarine "Novosibirsk" will be presented. This was reported in the press service of the Government of the Novosibirsk region.

The 885M Novosibirsk multi-purpose nuclear submarine is the third ship of the Yasen project (Yasen-M since 2009) for the naval fleet Of Russia. The layout of the submarine for the Technoprom forum will be executed on a scale of 1: 300. The submarine "Novosibirsk" is a secret project, therefore, it will not be possible to inspect the boat in the context, a model 1,25 meters long and 0,25 meters high will be in a glass display case.

In general, the Russian state armaments program for 2011-2020 provides for the construction of ten nuclear submarines of the 885 "Ash" project. These multi-purpose ships armed with cruise missiles should replace several former types of submarines - the "ash" will become an integral part of the nuclear deterrent forces, and in addition, they are able to successfully resist the submarines of the likely enemy. The submarines of the project "Ash" are almost silent on the move and have a powerful sonar complex, which allows them to detect the enemy before he can detect the Russian submarine.

Help "RG"

"Ash" - a project of multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the fourth generation. In June 2010, the lead ship of the Severodvinsk project was launched. Kazan was laid in 2009 of the year, it is being built according to the improved project 885М Yasen-M. It is planned that the second submarine of the series will be ready in 2015 year. Novosibirsk "will become the third ship, its construction began in July 2013 of the year.

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[alone]

Rogozin will certainly command all this.

"Ash" - a project of multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the fourth generation. In June 2010, the lead ship of the Severodvinsk project was launched. Kazan was laid in 2009 of the year, it is being built according to the improved project 885М Yasen-M. It is planned that the second submarine of the series will be ready in 2015 year. Novosibirsk "will become the third ship, its construction began in July 2013 of the year.

I turn to specialists. Is it possible at this pace to build 10 submarines in a specified period?

[PSih2097]

Quote: lonely

In June 2010, the lead ship of the Severodvinsk project was launched.

and it has been brought to mind for three years already ...

Quote: lonely

I turn to specialists. Is it possible at such a pace to build 10 submarines in a specified period?

In the USSR - yes, in the Russian Federation - I do not think so.

[mirag2]

Yes, sorry, of course.
I mean, I also think that there are so many ships in such a period, I doubt it.
The production technologies in our country are not the same; they even learned how to cook titanium, while other technologies are behind.
I saw a new Amer boat thing here, they take envy.
We really need, long time ago, to make a quiet, quick boat.
And with missiles, and a hunter for enemy submarines to create.
Yes, and robotic boats, too, would not hurt. This, of course, is fantasy, but I think that the unmanned reconnaissance boat that would listen, and generally work in a wide range with detection means, was not expensive, so that you could cover the water area the bigger, the better.
This is my dream.

[amp]

And how are you going to establish uninterrupted communication with such a boat - a robot?
Or will it always be at re-depth depth, with an antenna or a beacon exposed to the surface?

[ben gun]

Cable and cable, about the same on which towed GAS are lugged.

[spravochnik]

ADD communication does not require ascent, the boat releases a towed antenna.

[amp]

With such an antenna, the submarine will not be able to reach greater speed, since the antenna will go under water and the communication quality will be worse. SVD communication is not suitable for a submarine-robot, since the data transfer rate is very low and this is not suitable for controlling a robot.

Anyway, you need a crew.

[StolzSS]

The crew is an optional thing if you bring to mind an artificially simulated intellect, but it will be suitable only for limited tasks ...

[APASUS]

Quote: amp

With such an antenna, the submarine will not be able to reach greater speed, since the antenna will go under water and the communication quality will be worse. SVD communication is not suitable for a submarine-robot, since the data transfer rate is very low and this is not suitable for controlling a robot.

How is it easier for you to write?
Special software generates compresses the information packet that is transmitted to the buoy from the satellite for this, about 2-3 seconds are enough, feedback is carried out even faster.

[Patriot.ru.]

Communication with the submarine is on meter waves and no information packet can be transmitted there; it is possible on the DMV.

[spravochnik]

Headaches are always brought to mind for a long time.

[Alexxeg73]

Just remember that Severodvinsk is already 20 years old since its foundation. Despite the fact that he is only passing tests. We can say that she is experienced. Subsequent already on the modernized project.

[rolik]

Quote: lonely

I turn to specialists. Is it possible at this pace to build 10 submarines in a specified period?

You can)))) Build a hull, put the necessary equipment, weapons, not a problem. The most important thing to debug. The head boat always surrenders for a long time. In the following, everything goes on the thumb, with small nuances. I repeat once again, building with normal funding is not a problem, the problem is debugging, especially relevant in the new series.
And with "Severodvinsk" the situation is a little different from how it is painted. The boat was built, debugged, but the fleet does not accept. We didn't have time to prepare the structure for its reception.
We have got a nail tank for how many years they promise to make and show))))) Compare the tank and the nuclear submarines (despite the fact that both are new generations), which is longer in production and more complicated ???

[Onyx]

These multipurpose ships, armed with cruise missiles, should replace several previous types of submarines - "ash" will become an integral part of the nuclear deterrent

It is not clear what is meant. Will these boats have strategic nuclear weapons?
And what, once the new layout is shown, then the 885M project will look different from 885? I read that Severodvinsk has problems with noise due to the fact that for the first time the boat was built according to a hull scheme that is not specific to Russia

[spravochnik]

This means that the TLU can carry a long-range missile launcher. Actually, the one-and-a-half-hull design of the "Ash" helps to reduce noise compared to the double-hull, typical for submarines of the USSR and Russia.

[Onyx]

Quote: spravochnik

Actually, the one-and-a-half-hull design of the "Ash" helps to reduce noise compared to the double-hull, typical for submarines of the USSR and Russia.

So why does the Northwind project have a traditional design?

[olegyurjewitch]

And you take an interest in what year the design work on this type began, and the answer to your question is ready.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: rolik

We have a nail tank over how many years they promise to make and show)))))

So in the USSR they talked for a long time about a new GAZ-24 type car, about Lada cars, about KAMAZ trucks. And only after 2-4 years did these products appear in public. They were always silent about army and navy equipment. They put everyone before the fact. And here it is!

[rolik]

Quote: Hedgehog

GAZ-24 type, about Zhiguli, about KAMAZ

That is why it seemed that they were doing everything quickly))))) Although, of course, the timeframe from concept to implementation was not an example shorter. But then they did not spare money for defense, although some new projects also encountered difficulties along the way.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: rolik

Although, of course, the terms from concept to implementation were not an example shorter

If I am not mistaken, at the end of the year the Czechs announced the upcoming release of the Skoda 110R coupe, dedicating a spread in the magazine "Kvety" to this. In April, banners and posters were hung in Mlada Boleslav with an offer to buy the then popular Skodovka 1000MB for 68000 kroons and the new 110R coupe for 78000 kroons. This is how, I think, we need to work and notify. And this was in the late 60s - early 70s of the last century.

[rolik]

Quote: Hedgehog

Skoda 110R coupe,

Have you seen this Skoda coupe)))) And what new technologies are there, even for those years ??? ))) Although, of course, the terms are laudable, that's for sure)))

[spravochnik]

In Soviet times, and built faster.

[Reasonable, 2,3]

Zadolbali accept. How long can the deadline be rescheduled? She's not secret anymore, but our "Kulibins" are tuned in to an unmanned nuclear submarine. Smoke. And don't judge Rogozin, "Augean stables" will take a long time to rake.

[olegff68]

Quote: lonely

I turn to specialists. Is it possible at this pace to build 10 submarines in a specified period?

Here such -

scale 1: 300

That's yeah and another 10000 exhibitions, presentations, forums, etc.
But in the case - it’s still weak .

[e3tozy]

Yes. They used to say less, did more. Now there is one housekeeper. forum replaces another. With such tasks, responsible ministers must spend the night in factories, shipyards, and cosmodromes (as in Soviet times). Previously, excavators, bulldozers, scrapers, graders, mechanical engineering, aircraft manufacturing, shipbuilding, light and heavy industries sounded from high stands. Ministers, managers have grown since factories, state farms, shipyards. When the task was to build ships, planes, spacecraft, the whole system, institutes, design bureaus, industries worked, we were all involved in this. Ministers need industrial specialists, and most of their time they should be in the field at the moment and deal with the restoration of industry.

[Alexxeg73]

The lead ships are built the longest, incl. and boats. True, in this case, the first in the series was pledged back in the 90s and there was no funding. The second and subsequent ones are based on a slightly different project. Therefore, the second ("Kazan") can be considered the first in its series. All those are polished on it. processes and technologies, various equipment, etc. Therefore, the terms are as follows - 6 years. For the head, this is normal. Boats are built in a sectional way, the sections themselves are quite unified and similar in manufacture. Subsequent, with proper funding, can be pledged one per year. Let's say the third ("Novosibirsk") was laid in the summer and already at the time of laying the sections were 10% ready.
By the way, Vladimir Dorofeev, the general director of the St. Petersburg Marine Machine-Building Bureau Malakhit, asserted back in March that the modernized project would not have 8 boats, but 7. That is, taking into account the built-laid ones, there are only 5 boats left!

[Onyx]

Quote: Alexxeg73

By the way, Vladimir Dorofeev, the general director of the St. Petersburg Marine Machine-Building Bureau Malakhit, asserted back in March that the modernized project would not have 8 boats but 7

Interestingly, 8 Boreev and 8 Ash trees - is it only in the framework of the GPV 2011-2020, or will they be purchased after 2020 too?

[Airman]

Then this is no longer a secret, as it is already tired, the chicken is still in the nest, and the eggs are sold in absentia. They used to do, and were silent what they did, but now they haven’t done it, but they have already ringed the whole world. States can dissolve the CIA, Russian agents themselves will hand over everything.

[Botanologist]

Quote: Povshnik

They used to do, and were silent what they did, but now they haven’t done it, but they have already ringed the whole world.

I agree completely. It’s advisable to show the boat’s layout after they shoot at a target somewhere in the database and send something serious to the bottom. Or brought some Kuwait out of the atmosphere. And yet there is nothing, but we are already running around with the layout. A circle of a young technician, Mlyn.

[VAF]

Quote: Botanologist

I agree completely.

And I agree +!
At the end of yesterday's topic on su-34 (it seems like the same Novosibirsk, so here ... it will go )
In pursuit to 002 and 03, 01 flew out, which had "problems" identified in preparation for the flight.
So Morozovsk will already take 3 cars

[nazgul-ishe]

The main thing is to identify the goal, cut down money under the ego, and the switchman can later be found.

[PLO]

hello Sergey

eh .. no luck to Shagol this time)
brand new Su-34s stayed and went on

[VAF]

Quote: olp

eh .. no luck to Shagol this time)
brand new Su-34s stayed and went on

Hi Oleg Nothing ... in a year or two and they will receive

And so the freshest news - on the T-50-5, after the departure of the LADIES (by the way, the car was not more than 10 minutes ... well, but what about ... the iPhone was not screwed on ) made control taxiing and jogging

Everything in TU. If the weather is tomorrow, then ... into the air !!!

[Alex 241]

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[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

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Hello Sasha And what remains ... just wait and hope

[ivshubarin]

Do not take off, the snow has begun. It seems like another 5 pieces are collected

[Botanologist]

Quote: vaf

002 flew in pursuit of 03 and 01.

. Greetings!
Oh, and I like these cars! Even the Su-35 will be brought to the declared TTX, well, the T-50 (not to 2020, but early! ), and a series to extend and extend, units on 250!

[Xroft]

They would be better shown the layout of Almaty ...

[fklj]

First you need to do at least 10 units, and then PR. Piarasts.

[stalker]

eh, there would be enough time to rearm the army until the next mess

[Onyx]

Quote: stalker

eh, there would be enough time to rearm the army until the next mess

If it’s enough, there shouldn’t be a mess, but if not, then ...

[UVB]

The model of the submarine for the Tekhnoprom forum will be made on a scale of 1: 300. The submarine "Novosibirsk" is a secret project, therefore it will not be possible to inspect the boat in section, the model 1,25 meters long and 0,25 meters high will be in a glass showcase.

I did not understand the meaning of showing the layout, full of photos and videos of the finished head boat of this project. And yet, with a scale of 1: 300 and a layout length of 1,25 m, the length of the boat itself is 375 m. ??? Nimitz is resting!

[Airman]

Quote: UVB

The model of the submarine for the Tekhnoprom forum will be made on a scale of 1: 300. The submarine "Novosibirsk" is a secret project, therefore it will not be possible to inspect the boat in section, the model 1,25 meters long and 0,25 meters high will be in a glass showcase.

I did not understand the meaning of showing the layout, full of photos and videos of the finished head boat of this project. And yet, with a scale of 1: 300 and a layout length of 1,25 m, the length of the boat itself is 375 m. ??? Nimitz is resting!

The height of the boat is 75 meters!

[PSih2097]

Quote: UVB

it turns out the length of the boat is 375 m. ??? Nimitz is resting!

the largest length (on design waterline) - 172,8 m in 941 projects ...

Quote: Povshnik

The height of the boat is 75 meters!

25 meters from the Shark ...

[Fin]

Quote: UVB

I did not understand the meaning of showing the layout, full of photos and videos of the finished head boat of this project.

I agree. The author of the article is inadequate.

In Novosibirsk, will show the layout of a secret nuclear submarine

What a momentous event. What's the secret? There are one of these sea models and ready-made ones. Secrets must be inside.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: UVB

And yet, with the scale of 1: 300 and the length of the layout 1,25m, the length of the boat itself is 375 m.?

Good evening! The "fourth estate", as always, has gone wild, or "a typo has crept in." Only at a scale of 1: 1000 - everything converges.

Quote: UVB

What's the secret? These models of the sea and the finished one is

Gold words! But I want my own to be something like this:

[Fin]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

But I want my own to be something like this:

And I have a Pike-B from Gadzhievo fitted.

[Russ69]

Something, I did not understand this news. Why is she at all? The layout of the boat, which I’ve never seen.
Today, another Su-34 and 3 Yak-130 were transmitted, this is at least some kind of news.

[VAF]

Quote: Russ69

Today, another Su-34 and 3 Yak-130 were transmitted, this is at least some kind of news.

++++! And the "lifting" of the T-50-5. Moved .... for the "photo session"

[Wedmak]

Greetings, Sergey! And the 5 will be significantly different from the previous ones?

[VAF]

Quote: Wedmak

And the 5th will be something significantly different from the previous ones?

Hi Denis! Not much, except for the presence of an OMS (SUV) and the possibility of "using" ASP

[Wedmak]

M .. we will wait for the news "T-50 first used its weapons."

[VAF]

Quote: Wedmak

we will wait for the news "T-50 first used its weapons."

Most likely only next year .. not earlier

[clidon]

They promised, it seems, in June of this year?

[Russ69]

Quote: vaf

Most likely only next year .. not earlier

If, in the next start, already good ....
If only not the end of the year

[VAF]

Quote: Russ69

3 Yak-130 transmitted

In Shagol, the spotters "managed" to "grab" only one from the 3s

[major071]

The model of the submarine for the Tekhnoprom forum will be made on a scale of 1: 300.

I would like to see on the scale of 300: 1 and not in the layout, but as a functioning submarine cruiser.

[Kars]

Quote: major071

I want to see on a scale 300: 1

But you are a joker. If you correctly write what you wanted, then on a scale of 1 to 1, otherwise your submarine will only be able to load in the Mariana Trench))))))))

[lelikas]

Quote: Kars

But you are a joker. If you correctly write what you wanted, then on a scale of 1 to 1, otherwise your submarine will only be able to load in the Mariana Trench))))))))

In this form, she will not need to dive;)

[Wedmak]

In this form, she will not need to dive;)

Will impressively stroll along the bottom of the oceans ....

[Fraid]

He is not a joker! Man simply meant 300: 1 with respect to the layout

[Dangerous]

"In general, the Russian state armaments program for 2011-2020 provides for the construction ten nuclear submarines of project 885 "Ash"
It seems that only 8 of them were approved ???

[Onyx]

Quote: Dangerous

It seems that only 8 of them were approved ???

Do not even pay attention to the numbers. They have seven Fridays a week, then 10 boats, then 8, then 7, sort of. At least a minimum of voiced plans could be built.

[Wedmak]

Well, why show the layout? Ash is already in the photographs in all poses. Here is the filling - yes, it’s interesting, because they won’t show it.

[major071]

Kars (3)
Quote: major071
I want to see on a scale 300: 1

But you are a joker. If you correctly write what you wanted, then on a scale of 1 to 1, otherwise your submarine will only be able to load in the Mariana Trench))))))))

I blurted it out without thinking. Distract the bastards at work from commenting.

[nazgul-ishe]

And what will they arm? Will they come up with another "Blue"?

[Wedmak]

Not. KR, anti-ship missiles, torpedoes.

[spirit]

We wait! Tomorrow Monsieur Rogozin, a thread on any dag *** t))))) he just can not get through this topic. He is a "WIDE" specialist

[Neighbor]

Caesar ksarevo, locksmith, respectively, locksmith. Someone knows how to work, someone PR.

[Mercenary]

It's a shame that while the lead will be brought to mind and it would seem to put on a stream there are new secret tsatski again to review the entire technology. and what to do, keep shipbuilders at YOUR work all hope.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Mercenary

It's a shame that while the headache will be brought to mind and seemingly put on stream

To the stream oh how far!
"2013 October 12 - an unofficial but public source reports that the Severodvinsk submarine returned from the previous stage of sea trials with more than 250 comments. At the moment, about 100 comments have not been closed. The transfer of the boat to the Fleet is planned for March-April 2014. The problem is noise. The results of the passage of the GCS (hydroacoustic control vessel) in 2015 will have to be brought to values ​​acceptable for recording in the boat's acoustic log. The main remarks on the noise level are brought by the reactor when reaching maximum power and the poorly processed shaft line. To catch up and overtake according to characteristics. noisy submarine "Virginia" has not yet succeeded ", but as desired.

[sashka]

Done .. Layout. Maybe just a model from a mug? All of Russia is delighted. She swims and dives. It is not necessary to float .. "just drowned" Great .. Glory !! and once again Glory to the shipbuilders ... And of course the great and everywhere existing .. Poo !! Hurray !! ?? or .. As usual?

[Peaceful military]

The submarine "Novosibirsk" is a secret project, so it will not be possible to inspect the boat in section, the model 1,25 meters long and 0,25 meters high will be in a glass showcase.

So Mango-Mango, they also sang: "We have such devices, but we will not tell you about them ..."

[tomich]

the second submarine will be ready in 2015, and the remaining eight for 5 years riveted? Oh well

[waisson]

welcome spies to us why so loudly I don’t know how anyone and the Chinese have definitely already introduced themselves there in advance

[Migari]

Quote: stalker

eh, there would be enough time to rearm the army until the next mess

As long as Russia has a nuclear shield and a sword, and we have enough of them, do not poke it, well, maybe some kind of crazy guy like Mishiko is the little things, the main thing is that the newcomer went to the troops.

[silver_roman]

In general, Russia's state armaments program for 2011-2020 provides for the construction of ten Project 885 Yasen nuclear-powered submarines.

Something I finally got confused about the amount of nuclear submarine data planned in GPV 2020 !!! Can anyone shed light on this moment?
Somehow, it seems to me, it will be sooooo hard to build 7 submarines in 8 years! Such rates probably do not exist anywhere!

[Russ69]

Quote: silver_roman

Somehow, it seems to me, it will be sooooo hard to build 7 submarines in 8 years! Such rates probably do not exist anywhere!

There was already talk of partial transference. It is simply not yet clear how much will be carried forward in 2020.

[Vittt]

Quote: lonely

Rogozin will certainly command all this.

"Ash" - a project of multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the fourth generation. In June 2010, the lead ship of the Severodvinsk project was launched. Kazan was laid in 2009 of the year, it is being built according to the improved project 885М Yasen-M. It is planned that the second submarine of the series will be ready in 2015 year. Novosibirsk "will become the third ship, its construction began in July 2013 of the year.

I turn to specialists. Is it possible at this pace to build 10 submarines in a specified period?

Are you living on the moon? Secret Submarine Layout! This is just a miracle, it's like a secret Chinese hockey! Such pseudo-news should be suppressed in the bud and not printed at all, since this information is about nothing. In the same way, I can throw in information that by 2015 the Belarusian national hockey team will become the world champion, or the Belarusian design bureau of naval submarine aviation is developing and In the film "Avatar-2" a new concept of hypersonic takeoff of a helicopter from under the earth's mantle will be introduced.

[pl675]

Help "RG"

"Ash" - a project of multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the fourth generation. In June 2010, the lead ship of the Severodvinsk project was launched. Kazan was laid in 2009 of the year, it is being built according to the improved project 885М Yasen-M. It is planned that the second submarine of the series will be ready in 2015 year. Novosibirsk "will become the third ship, its construction began in July 2013 of the year.


this is not the fourth generation.
- removal of SLT to the middle part of the PC - there is no leap forward.

miners will not let lie, exit in a torpedo attack with this arrangement, no more than five knots.

the possibilities of the new Gus are still unknown.
yes a lot of questions.

[pl675]

I turn to specialists. Is it possible at this pace to build 10 submarines in a specified period?

a rupee for a hundred - they will not build.
in the USSR it was possible.
Now all the forces are thrown on the pipe.

[uizik]

Show off fast! Build slowly!

[voliador]

Yes, with such a pace, three could be mastered!

[Yugra]

You, most importantly, do it, but don’t have enough money, throw off maleho. During the war we threw off tanks, are we worse?

[pamero]

I like the name Novosibirsk. There is something strong Siberian in this, thorough and reliable !!!!

[Evgeniy667b]

In the USSR, in three years, such "Ash" would have been put into operation - the staff would definitely get sick, to the point of hysteria. The submarine cruisers Severodvinsk and Komsomolsk were launched 6 units each. And there was also Krasnoe Sormovo, Leningrad. The main thing is that now they are building at least something. If the stocks were not polluted with orders for all sorts of Indians, Chinese, Vietnamese and others ... the Russian fleet would be very much even nothing.
The frequent frequent flights of the Su-34 from the Chkalovsky airfield are also pleasing!