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On the ground near Pskov six paratroopers of the airborne troops were blown up

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On the ground near Pskov six paratroopers of the airborne troops were blown upSix Russian Airborne Forces troops died as a result of an explosion at an unknown facility at a test site in the Pskov Region, said Airborne Troops Commander Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov on Monday.
According to preliminary data, the dead cadets were trained in the Ryazan Higher Airborne Command School, and in the Pskov region were on probation, ITAR-TASS reports.
According to others, the paratroopers arrived in Pskov from a division based in Tula, and not in Ryazan.
As one of the residents of the village of Vladimir camp in Strugokrasnensky district, where the 30183 military unit is located, on the basis of which the exercises took place, told the VZGLYAD newspaper, two explosions were heard around 18.30 Moscow time.
Meanwhile, a source in the power structures of the region reported that the incident occurred at the site 714 of the Airborne Forces in 19.10 Moscow time.
The press service of the Russian Defense Ministry clarified that five cadets and one contractor were killed when the munitions were blown up, two more servicemen were injured, RIA reports.News».
Airborne Commander Vladimir Shamanov flew to the scene. The head of the Ministry of Defense Sergei Shoigu ordered to provide all necessary assistance to the families of the dead and injured soldiers.
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  2. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 23 October 2013 07: 11
    17
    The details of this incident are unclear - it’s too early to draw conclusions in any case, my condolences to the families and friends of the dead guys. (Too much information has appeared on the site about the tragedies)
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 October 2013 07: 12
      0
      Quote: Lech from our city
      The details of this incident are unclear.

      What other details do you need?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 23 October 2013 07: 17
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What other details do you need?

        Hi San, have you woken up? I, too, are interested in the details of what they blown up, who is to blame.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 23 October 2013 07: 51
          +5
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          you didn’t wake up or what?

          No, it’s not a matter of drowsiness.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          I, too, are interested in the details of what they blown up, who is to blame.

          These details will not return the lives of people and, as history shows, does not prevent the repetition of this.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 23 October 2013 11: 04
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            These details will not return the lives of people and, as history shows, does not prevent the repetition of this.

            Alexander, as you know, instructions and regulations, unfortunately "are written in blood." And it is the KNOWLEDGE of the CAUSE of the tragedy that will be able (I really want to hope so) to prevent this in the future.
            Therefore, sharing the bitterness of what happened, it is necessary to agree with Lech from our city и Ingvar 72 .
      2. Lech from our city
        Lech from our city 23 October 2013 07: 17
        +3
        1. That it was an accident or disorder of the commander.
        2. Landing seems to be fighting guys and they must have the ability to handle weapons and ammunition in their blood.
        3.And what is this unknown object at the test site (Bermuda triangle or what?) am
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 23 October 2013 07: 28
          +5
          wherever there is a weapon, something similar happens sooner or later. sometimes it just doesn’t fit my mind how experienced people allow certain actions that result in similar cases. they happen to special forces as well. It could just be a case when a person falls from a mess and falls under the batter that comes next. it can just be a shot when the weapon is unloaded. In fact, things like this rarely happen. And sometimes it’s hard to explain. Just like the usual negligence and slovenliness, childishness
          1. Ghenxnumx
            Ghenxnumx 23 October 2013 07: 40
            +6
            This does not happen
            Quote: Gleb
            wherever there is a weapon
            , and where there are violations of TB and neglect of their duties. "the charter is written in blood" is the first truth that must be hammered into the heads of the first years at the level of reflexes and the first commandment.
            In our guard over 10 years, not a single incident with a weapon, not even an accidental shot, has ever happened. soldier
        2. domokl
          domokl 23 October 2013 08: 13
          +1
          Quote: Lech from our city
          . That it was an accident or disorder of the commander.

          Neither one nor the other. There is a low probability of chance, but very low. A car is blown up. And cars drive not on the field, but on the roads.
          Quote: Lech from our city
          2. Landing seems to be fighting guys and they must have the ability to handle weapons and ammunition in their blood.

          It’s interesting how to neutralize the charge that no one else knew about. The test site is not a database zone.
          Quote: Lech from our city
          3.And what is this unknown object at the landfill

          An artillery shell is most likely. And a large caliber.
        3. Alekseev
          Alekseev 23 October 2013 10: 29
          +2
          Quote: Lech from our city
          3.And what is this unknown object at the test site (Bermuda triangle or what?)

          The landfill is a place of increased danger!
          It is difficult to exclude both a tragic combination of circumstances and someone’s oversight.
          For example, to ensure that there are no "unknown" explosive objects on the territory of the training fields, a complete cleaning is carried out.
          That is, there is a chain of soldiers who use special flags to indicate suspicious objects. The chain is followed by the chief, the nurse, and the sappers, who must "deal personally" with such suspicious objects: blow up on the spot, take out, etc.
          But the polygon fields are not an even table and among the l / s attracted for cleaning, not all are "particularly responsible excellent students", unfortunately there is a chance to miss something.
          Yes, we live in bad times in the sense of organizing service and order.
          Here is the result.
    2. atalef
      atalef 23 October 2013 08: 28
      +8
      They are well acquainted with this landfill, since they lived in the Red Clubs for almost 2 years, the landfill has been operating since the end of the war (in general, before the revolution there were military camps) and the village (military), the Vladivir camp says about this. So, in the 80s, for mushrooms to the landfill (3 km from the Strug of the Reds (by the way before the revolution they were called the Strug of the White), They simply found a huge number of unexploded ordnance, hailstones, RPGs, air bombs
      Until the 90s they were still neutralized, then, like everyone else, they were started, in general, the children were constantly undermined there
      The landfill retreated to the Airborne Forces only in the beginning of the 90s, until this time he was distracted by Luga (Leningrad Military District) and the Tank Testing Center.
      Most cadets were blown up on some old orphan ammunition
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 23 October 2013 09: 46
        0
        Yes it seems.

        Unexploded ordnance is supposed to be cleared, but some of them are very difficult to detect on old landfills (a sea of ​​fragments, a mine detector is unrealistic to use), in addition, many heads of landfills are simply afraid to do this, realizing the low preparedness of the landfill in this regard.

        One thing is not clear what they did there in a crowd. At the military internship, they are supposed to have a place with their platoons.
      2. Airman
        Airman 23 October 2013 10: 49
        0
        As far as I know, in Soviet times there was an artillery range on which LenVO gunners fired, so it looks like an artillery shell. Since the two are lightly wounded, soon everything will be clear. Condolences to the near and dear ones.
  3. maniac
    maniac 23 October 2013 07: 15
    0
    go nuts news!
  4. domokl
    domokl 23 October 2013 07: 22
    +3
    It’s clear that there can’t be anything at the training ground. But, in my opinion, something is lying here. I think we need to investigate everything very adultly. It looks like a land mine ... Condolences to the victims.
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 23 October 2013 07: 30
      +3
      Bulletins, as from the front ... When will this distribution end already? Earth rest in peace, parents bow ...
    2. Apollo
      23 October 2013 07: 32
      +5
      My most sincere condolences to the families of the dead servicemen and the wounded of early healing.

      The life of servicemen injured at the Pskov training ground is out of danger - Airborne Commander
      ...............
      Explosion reasons
      "A preliminary analysis of the nature of the propagation of the blast wave and the craters formed at the site of the explosion, as well as the types of injuries of the injured military personnel indicate that an artillery ammunition was detonated," the press service and information department of the Russian Defense Ministry said.
      http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/922234.html

      I think that a criminal case will be instituted and the perpetrators will be held accountable.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 23 October 2013 07: 34
        +4
        What they just didn’t do with these ammunition, well, they didn’t explode ... Not specifically, of course, but by gouging.
      2. domokl
        domokl 23 October 2013 08: 09
        +2
        Quote: Apollon
        indicate that an artillery ammunition was detonated, "

        And that means a terrorist attack is unambiguous. Artillery ammunition (most likely 122 or 152 mm) is used specifically for making land mines. The story that the landmine remained from the time of the Second World War or was lost during firing, I won’t tell.
        1. TRex
          TRex 23 October 2013 09: 15
          +7
          Act of terrorism at the training ground? Sasha! You are Domocles! Brain over!
          I think - again, ordinary carelessness, if not more sharply ... Maybe the fire was lit in the wrong place, maybe they decided to kick an unknown piece of iron, maybe they decided to "mine" themselves ... boys, children ... their mother children.
          But not a "terrorist attack". NO.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 23 October 2013 09: 49
          0
          Come on. We could only drive on the "cauldron" on the road; elsewhere there was no guarantee that everything was cleaned of unexploded ordnance.
  5. George
    George 23 October 2013 07: 41
    +5
    Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased.
  6. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 23 October 2013 08: 14
    +3
    He was a cadet at the Totsky training ground, they built us a chain and handed out flags to everyone. They combed the landfill and stuck a flag at each unexploded shell. Then sappers arrived and blew up everything we found. It’s very bitter when people die because of someone’s negligence.
  7. maturity
    maturity 23 October 2013 08: 27
    +1
    Sincere condolences to the families of the victims, a speedy recovery to the victims.
  8. PValery53
    PValery53 23 October 2013 08: 30
    +1
    Condolences to the relatives of the dead paratroopers. How and where did the explosion occur: at a firing position, at an NP, KP, or in a camp? When overloaded, during loading, or maybe a land mine? Something at once all covered in mystery.
  9. RUSBAT
    RUSBAT 23 October 2013 08: 30
    +2
    Condolences to the relatives of the victims. Sorry for the guys.
  10. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 23 October 2013 09: 32
    +1
    what a pity guys ... peacetime ... well, how so? and? fathers commanders? the head of the training ground, what is going on in your garden do not know? fool
  11. major071
    major071 23 October 2013 09: 40
    +6
    dead cadets were trained at the Ryazan Higher Airborne Command School, and were in an internship in the Pskov Region,

    Remember, who studied at military schools, on what course do internships take place? We passed at the end of the 3 course, and studied all 4 of the year. So the boys were already prepared, not the first year.
    Parents of the victims sincere condolences. The wounded - a speedy recovery.
  12. waisson
    waisson 23 October 2013 10: 00
    +2
    sorry guys sincere condolences to the relatives and friends of the dead guys
  13. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol 23 October 2013 10: 04
    +1
    Sadness. Probably the old one .... but began to feel sadness and grief as for his children ... I’m sorry.
  14. IRBIS
    IRBIS 23 October 2013 10: 07
    +2
    Such cases are not uncommon and the main reason for them is rather commonplace - typical carelessness and non-compliance with safety requirements. On the landfill, you must not pick up, throw, kick, burn anything, etc. In my memory, because of sloppiness, so many people died that I don't even presume to count. In this case, the commission will understand the reasons. Only here the lessons do not work. The notorious "human factor" ...
  15. Poruchik 90
    Poruchik 90 23 October 2013 10: 22
    +1
    Condolences to relatives.
    As a rule, negligent attitude and sloppiness. We (OrdzhVOKU) threw anti-tank grenades at the 4th year training ground, 1 did not explode, the teacher put flags, left 2 guarded and took the platoon to the school and for sappers. And they wanted to liquidate it (a grenade) themselves, throw it again, one without eyes, the second without a hand.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 23 October 2013 10: 35
      0
      I heard that the landfill in Tarsky was almost half a year cleaned of unexploded ordnance after the school was disbanded.
      1. Poruchik 90
        Poruchik 90 23 October 2013 10: 41
        +2
        With the union we shot of course a lot.
        Well, even though I was not able to attend the disbandment, it is a pity there was a good school.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 23 October 2013 10: 47
          0
          The only thing in the USSR with full mountain training.

          However, I would not call it completely disbanded, now it is a school for explosives, and, as far as I heard, they pulled many teachers to themselves.

          The Tarskoye-1 training ground was inherited by them, Tarskoye-2 and the Darial of the 58th Army.
  16. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 October 2013 10: 36
    +2
    It's a pity how ...
  17. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 23 October 2013 10: 50
    +1
    Condolences to relatives.
  18. Jarserge
    Jarserge 23 October 2013 11: 00
    +4
    Condolences to family and friends!
    There is no “smart” death. Based on my rich experience .... Most likely the landfill has not been cleaned for a long time. The paratroopers found some kind of ammunition (as they say artillery) The boys did not shoot or explode, these are already shortcomings of combat training or insufficient combat training, especially for the paratroopers. You should know that a number of ammunition have self-liquidators, sometimes they did not work due to the peculiarities of the soil in the Pskov region , and triggered when moving. However, this is the task of the investigation, the results of which, real, we most likely will not know
  19. loki565
    loki565 23 October 2013 11: 04
    +1
    Unfortunately, such clever people who simply do not observe the elementary safety technique can also appear on the exercises.

    1. Vyacheslav
      Vyacheslav 23 October 2013 11: 43
      +1
      What is the case?
    2. potterz
      potterz 23 October 2013 12: 35
      +2
      Damn, you forgive me, well, there are no other words, I would kill this goat who muddied it all !!! what nah 2 years of settlement !? The person remained disabled !!!!! S.ka, give birth to downs .......
    3. mizantropi
      mizantropi 23 October 2013 21: 57
      +1
      Yeaaaa ...., By the way, our land has not become scarce with degenerates! "It was I who invented everything !!!" For this inventor - an explosive package would be in the guzlo !!!
      1. alone
        alone 23 October 2013 22: 51
        +1
        on this old wall the crying. ur.od. other words are not worthy.
  20. loki565
    loki565 23 October 2013 11: 52
    +2
    Quote: Vyacheslav
    What is the case?


    Anton Andreevich (military unit 65384), DELIBERATELY, NOT THINKING OF THE CONSEQUENCES, ORDERED the sapper platoon to lay explosive devices that did not match the training (7-8 on each other)
    On February 15, 2011, at about 13 in the village of Shali at the training ground as a result of an imitation mine explosion near MTLB, contractor Denis Sergeyevich Stukan (driver-mechanic in the video) received a mine-blasting wound and was hospitalized in the trauma unit. Anti-shock measures were carried out. 40/15.02.2011/16.02.2011, the operation was performed: PHC of the wounds of the lower extremities, closed manual reduction of dislocations in the CHOPAR joint of the right foot, closed manual reposition of the left ankle joint, gypsum immobilization of both feet. 3, was transferred to branch No. 16.02.2011, hospitalized in the trauma unit, on 16.03.2011, the operation was performed: closed re-directing of the dislocation in the CHOPAR joint of the right foot, fixing with KIRSHNER spokes, removal of free-lying bone fragments. A system of skeletal traction over the left calcaneus is imposed. Antibacterial, vascular, sympotomic therapy was carried out, local treatment. 1602/23.03.2011/XNUMX for further treatment was transferred to the Federal State Institution “XNUMX OVG”, hospitalized in the traumatology department, for surgical treatment. XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX YEARS operations performed:
    1. OPEN REPOSITION, METAL-OSTEOSYNTHESIS OF THE PLATE OF THE LOWER THIRD OF THE FIBER, THE PLATE AND THREE SPONGIOUS SCREWS OF THE INTERNAL ANKLE AND THE REAR EDGE OF THE BLACK BERRIES.
    2. CLOSED REPOSITION OF THE RIGHT calcaneus, FIXATION IN THE VCHKDO VEKDO ELIZAROVA. AT THE RIGHT FOOT, THE FULL LOSS OF THE FIRST BONE, CONFIRMATION TO THIS X-RAY PICTURE. ST-LT Bushmin
    1. TRex
      TRex 23 October 2013 11: 59
      +4
      This trick with Starleys epaulettes should be planted ...
      That "he invented everything," you fool!
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 23 October 2013 12: 09
        +1
        Quote: TRex
        This trick with Starleys epaulettes should be planted ...

        He was given 2 years in a penal colony, the contractor remained disabled.
  21. igordok
    igordok 23 October 2013 12: 14
    0
    It was reported on the radio that the explosion occurred during the operation of paratroopers with targets.
    1. screw cutter
      screw cutter 23 October 2013 13: 01
      0
      The targets do not explode. But the munition that could not have come up could be approaching. You should watch under your feet. / Although it’s a bit heapy / At the same time at the training grounds, twice a year / before the snow and when it just gets off / mine clearance was carried out.
      1. igordok
        igordok 23 October 2013 13: 16
        0
        Quote: screw cutter
        Targets do not explode

        Clear. Previous reports claimed that there was an explosion of ammunition from previous firing.
  22. razved
    razved 23 October 2013 14: 02
    0
    sorry for the guys, the ridiculous losses are always particularly difficult to bear ...
  23. Zhenya
    Zhenya 23 October 2013 15: 14
    0
    Rest in peace!
  24. alone
    alone 23 October 2013 22: 54
    +1
    guys feel sorry for the young. quite a relative condolences and patience