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Moscow is under siege

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Moscow is under siegePractically in the frontline city, an ethnic bomb of the megaton class was already laid in peacetime.


For some reason, in the widest circles of the domestic public of the liberal spill, it is believed that there will not be a hundred wars in the coming years. And even if it breaks out, it is supposed to carry it out in democratic minds by some exceptionally humane methods and methods. In a word, only in strict compliance with all previously signed Geneva Conventions. In other words, a future war is sometimes assumed to be a clash between two noble knights. Meanwhile, the last armed confrontation of this kind is the Russian-Japanese war of 1904 – 1905. Further, the level of inhumanity, cruelty, violence and destruction from conflict to conflict only increased.

As is known, история Humanity is the story of wars. As the Reichswehr ideologue General von Sect used to say: “The eternal world is a dream, and not even a beautiful one. War is the link of the divine universe. ” Historians have calculated that for one peaceful year of human life there are eleven soldiers. And the longer the peaceful pause, the bigger and bloodier the war following it. In particular, in the history of Europe there was a period when the continent practically did not fight - from 1815 to 1914 a year (with the exception of the short and not too bloody and destructive Franco-Prussian war of 1870 – 1871). But since 1914, the soul was taken, as they say, in full. Blood poured just river. By the way, no one had previously been able to predict either the scale, the victims, or the destruction of the world war.

Therefore, to say in our time that there will be no war and that it will begin to have some kind of civilized look, we must be very careful.

And now we will discuss only one question.

Few people think that after 1991, Moscow has become a border (front-line) city. Some 300 kilometers separate it from the state border. In June 1941, the 56-th motorized corps of Erich von Manstein (Army Group North) covered a similar distance in just four days. Now, I suppose, they will manage for three.

Suppose the war has begun.

Naturally, a general (partial) mobilization will be announced. Healthy and law-abiding men of the city of Moscow will be put under the gun and will depart as part of the formations, units and marching units at the places of operational mission.

It must be assumed that he will be called up to the Armed Forces (to the internal troops) and a significant part of the Moscow police. Someone must make up parts and formations for the protection of the rear of the acting army and "hold" the front-line regime. In other words, men from the front-line city will go to the front. How else?

Then the question arises: who will remain in the capital of our Motherland? The answer, apparently, is that - there will be old people, women and children. And several million "non-residents", non-citizens of the Russian Federation.

Among them are currently migrant workers - residents of Central Asian and Transcaucasian republics. And if already in peacetime a significant part of them are engaged in theft, robbery, violence and murder against the indigenous population, then what will happen in wartime? Has anyone thought about this? Who will the Moscow women and children?

Say, if the October 19 1941 in Moscow was declared a state of siege, the demographic situation in the city was completely different. First, the population was in its vast mass law-abiding, and secondly, who was to ensure the state of siege. And despite some rough edges, the situation as a whole in Moscow was kept under control. Only one fact is enough - there were no acts of terrorism and speeches of the fifth column.

What will happen now?

If someone forgot, not so long ago, a representative of a Transcaucasian ethnic group died in Moscow as a result of a criminal showdown. His fellow countrymen literally organized themselves into a huge crowd of many thousands in a few minutes, which, having paralyzed the movement on Komsomolsky Avenue of the capital, moved towards the city hall. The riot police arrived in alarm, without any ceremony (noble, however, it was then wet), dispersed the crowd of Caucasians.

And what will happen in wartime? It is terrible to even imagine like that. Or nobody ever thought about it? It seems that, as usual, we live according to the famous Chernomyrdin formula: “We have never had such a thing - and suddenly, look, again!”.

It should be added that races and religions usually fight. In any case, it has been so for the last five thousand years. Usually many of our politicians forget about it. It seems that it was about them that Niccolò Machiavelli said in his work “Discourses on the first decade of Titus Libya”: “... it is from this that very many people who read historical works with interest perceive the diversity of incidents described in them, but never think about imitating them , believing that such an imitation of a matter is not only difficult, but impossible at all, as if the sky, the sun, the elements, people have changed their movement, order and force since the times of antiquity. ”

It is quite possible that a future war will break out in full accordance with the postulates of Samuel Huntington, set forth in his famous book “The Clash of Civilizations”. The sky, the sun, the elements, people have not changed their movement, order and force since antiquity. Inter-civilizational conflict will break out, and in the capital of our Motherland a multi-million fifth column has already been formed, rooted, embedded. God forgive me for the soldier’s language, but it can be so bombed that it will not seem like it.
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  1. smersh70
    smersh70 23 October 2013 15: 41 New
    -99 qualifying.
    And if in peacetime a significant part of them trades in theft, robbery, violence and killings against the indigenous population, then what will happen in wartime

    let him bring statistics .... and then he draws conclusions .. the author bent over in this article .... better let him look at the officials and write about them .... hi
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 23 October 2013 15: 47 New
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      And if in peacetime a significant part of them trades in theft, robbery, violence and killings against the indigenous population, then what will happen in wartime

      quite a lot. We are forbidden to indicate the nationality of the detainees.
      BUT informal data Indicates that up to a third of crimes are committed by migrant workers. And for rape more than 50.
      1. APES
        APES 23 October 2013 16: 03 New
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        Not the most important thing:
        Events of recent years, as an example:
        1. In Libya, migrants were used as the main “revolutionary” force (for a crush), which is how everyone ended up with this.
        2. The situation is dangerous in that it is possible to plan and implement any provocation in a short time and at low cost.
        3. Further, at the beginning of the last century there were also pogroms, how it ended - we know
        4. So far, Moscow has been saved by the concentration of various law enforcement agencies.
        5. If the war begins - it will already be in Moscow - right away, not a single enemy soldier will need to cross the border.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 10 New
          +2
          In Libya, migrants were used as the main “revolutionary” force (for a crush), which is how everyone ended up with this.

          No religious and clan divisions are not the prerequisites.
          The situation is dangerous in that it is possible to plan and implement any provocation in a short time and at low cost.

          and then what will happen? their gaster is easy to calculate and find the benefit of the morphology is very different from ours.
          Further, at the beginning of the last century there were also pogroms, how it ended - we know

          Then like the Jews smashed. Ali are you talking about?
          So far, Moscow has been saved by the concentration of various law enforcement agencies.

          There is not so much fragmentation of the Gaster.
          If the war begins - it will already be in Moscow - right away, not a single enemy soldier will need to cross the border.

          You have little idea of ​​the punitive mechanism of the state during the war and preparations for it.
          1. APES
            APES 23 October 2013 16: 22 New
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            Quote: leon-iv
            easy to calculate and find good morphology is very different from ours

            if there is time
            Quote: leon-iv
            imagine the punitive mechanism of the state during the war and preparations for it

            I imagine, but:
            "One traitor was enough to destroy the USSR"

            One - I exaggerated
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 26 New
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              if there is time

              and why should he not be? Even an elementary survey of residents gives information about the living of all the Gaster.
              One traitor was enough to destroy the USSR

              Our leadership has the power of overdrive. And they have something to lose. Like most of the population.
              1. APES
                APES 23 October 2013 16: 31 New
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                Quote: leon-iv
                And they have something to lose


                commonplace question:

                where are their children
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 36 New
                  -2
                  where are their children

                  Do you think London will not get a nuclear NUC? Oh well. Get 6 pieces at least.
                  1. APES
                    APES 23 October 2013 16: 42 New
                    +7
                    Quote: leon-iv
                    Do you think London will not get a NUC


                    I am sure

                    since there will be no reason
                    1. leon-iv
                      leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 45 New
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                      I am sure

                      since there will be no reason

                      If there is a nuclear war, then this is only NATO against Russia.
                      Everything else is trash. But China’s war with Russia didn’t bother.
                      1. APES
                        APES 23 October 2013 16: 47 New
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                        Quote: leon-iv
                        If there will be a nuclear war


                        why did you decide that it would be a nuclear war using tank columns and a thousand-kilometer front?

                        The world has changed - including warfare
                      2. leon-iv
                        leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 53 New
                        -7
                        The world has changed - including warfare

                        lol what?
                        The fact that only the Papuans have been bent over the past 50 years must be said thanks to the nuclear weapons. And yes, Tank as a combat unit is the most resistant to PFYAV. You see less Discovery / Impact Power.
                        And so the world has not changed since ancient times.
                      3. APES
                        APES 23 October 2013 17: 05 New
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                        The script - code name - "Big PIZ-ts Moscow"
                        1. 10 000 thugs are enough (they already have on 1 million migrants)
                        2. Provocation
                        3. Terrorist attacks on vital facilities (water supply, sewage, electricity)
                        4. Terrorist attacks on transport routes (railway, car, metro)
                        5. On the street shooting, explosions, thousands of corpses

                        Result:
                        1. products in Moscow on 3 day
                        2. 20 millions are locked in a stone bag, there is no transport, it’s scary to go outside
                        3. Water supply, sewerage do not work, corpses not cleaned on the street (a thousand are enough)
                        4. Epidemics will begin on 5 day
                        5. On 7 day, the war of all against all will begin (Moscow residents - love each other very much)

                        This is so - in large strokes.

                        PS
                        We are talking about different things, your thinking is very global.
                      4. leon-iv
                        leon-iv 23 October 2013 17: 15 New
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                        1. Enough 10 scumbags

                        suppose they are, but they are divided.
                        2. Provocation

                        Immediately introduced ala Volcano-5
                        3. Terrorist attacks on vital facilities (water supply, sewage, electricity)

                        How? To do this, you need to prepare and purchase weapons and explosives. There are even problems with this in Sevkaz. And in the event of a possible attack on such objects, enhanced security and the mode of service on them are set. + Many are not so easy to get.
                        Terrorist attacks on transport routes (railway, car, metro)

                        You can’t plan a big one and the losses only weaken our society but do not intimidate it in any way.
                        On the street shooting, explosions, thousands of corpses

                        There is a curfew on the street. VV and VV patrol the city along with the Ministry of Internal Affairs and combatants.
                        1. products in Moscow for 3 days

                        Fairy tales.
                        2. 20 million are locked in a stone bag, there is no transport, it’s scary to go outside

                        AAA tin and where will the motorways and railway lines go? Or do you think the railway canvases we do not know how to quickly change or make temporary ways?
                        Water supply, sewerage do not work, corpses not cleaned on the street (a thousand are enough)

                        You will clean the bodies yourself as a combatant. Power supply is not going anywhere maskum will limit the flow.
                        4. On day 5 epidemics begin
                        5. On the 7th day, the war of all against all will begin (Moscow residents - love each other very much)

                        Even comment laziness MARASM.
                      5. Grandson of Veteran
                        Grandson of Veteran 23 October 2013 17: 45 New
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                        "1. Enough 10 thugs"
                        "Let's put them there, but they are disconnected."

                        In general, yes, they are fragmented ... But in particular, all Gaster live quite large
                        in groups of 4-5 to 10-20 people or more. Well, you see, they do not rent housing for 1-2
                        person. Communication within the micro-community is constant, even if they work at different jobs
                        (I emphasize, if they work). And then a quote from the series "Liquidation" - "Gotsman was killed! -Yes
                        sho you persecute! -I tell you! Squeak with his already gone to break the box office! -Tew,
                        and we are standing?!? ". Have you imagined? And now we estimate how many such groups in Moscow
                        scattered? Hundreds, thousands? Now about their weapons and explosives. A long time to get it by attacking the patrol PPS
                        by the crowd? Let's say there are 1000000 migrants in Moscow. One percent of the allowed amount is 10000 people.
                        Admit the presence of one percent of frost? I admit. Continue to continue?
                      6. Lapotnik
                        Lapotnik 23 October 2013 17: 59 New
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                        So many komentov and everything past the cash register
                        In China - he sleeps and sees so that the Far East gets caught.
                        About wars - what for do PPC to the world, if you can locally make PPC in the region?
                        The fragmentation of illegal immigrants embittered ... well, I don’t even know what to say ... maybe they have one idea for everyone? Kill Russians for example? And they can give a push and provoke to us, many at the top can even dream of it at night.

                        The lack of weapons in the Caucasus is a problem with them ... En, and caches are still being found, and craftsmen of bushes are still being taken with trunks, but how many warriors have had ...

                        Volcano ... it will be a bunch until the volcano is introduced, 10 scumbags will be swept away by the mass of what they are told, the internal troops will come up for now ... Yes, there’s another question again, but in power, who will act?

                        Yes, and why is all Moscow and Moscow? And will the rest of the regions all be peaceful at this time?

                        Having power, money, support from outside the states (and inside) this can be done. The enemies of Russia, both internal and external, have all this.

                        And about insanity you are in vain.
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                    2. Normal
                      Normal 23 October 2013 21: 41 New
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                      Quote: leon-iv
                      leon-iv (5) Today, 17:15 ↑
                      1. Enough 10 scumbags
                      suppose they are, but they are divided.

                      Caucasians will gather within half an hour to hundreds of young fighters. What can a hundred do? Oh, a lot of things ... Hundreds of corpses can do in a few tens of minutes.
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      Immediately introduced ala Volcano-5

                      It will take at least an hour to coordinate and arrive at the OPON’s place, and this, if there is no opposition along the route, which is organized, just spit. Local police departments are blocked by the same police officers - natives of the Caucasus working in these units.
                      In addition, the tactics of the OPON’s actions are effective only against the Slavic crowd, which is slow, fragmented and straightforward in their actions.
                      In Caucasians, on the other hand, raiding tactics - concentration - an attack by superior forces are in the blood, in the event of a rebuff, retreat, dispersal, followed by collection and attack elsewhere. No VOLCANO-5 will help, it just will not be in time. An example of how groups of Caucasians will act.
                    3. leon-iv
                      leon-iv 23 October 2013 22: 50 New
                      +1
                      Caucasians will gather within half an hour to hundreds of young fighters. What can a hundred do? Oh, a lot of things ... Hundreds of corpses can do in a few tens of minutes

                      So what?
                      I, too, can call friends and collect friends who love churkobesov less than cockroaches.
                      It will take at least an hour to coordinate and arrive at the OPON’s place, and this, if there is no opposition along the route, which is organized, just spit. Local police departments are blocked by the same police officers - natives of the Caucasus working in these units.

                      Hto such OPON?
                      I don’t know such people BUT there is always an OMON special squad on duty and it will arrive in half an hour later. And depending on the threat, it will be armed with either batons or heavy weapons up to the involvement of troops. For example, in my hometown, they worked out the involvement of the Airborne Forces in law enforcement. What do you think the airborne will breed polones?
                      No VOLCANO-5 will help, it just will not be in time. An example of how groups of Caucasians will act.

                      How can I tell you one thing injuring another firearm? The consequence of the latter will be much more serious. For example, the demolition of a house in the city of Dageston, the huts of the shopping mall there will find IEDs. And there were precedents. Or do you think the siloviki love them so much?
                    4. Normal
                      Normal 23 October 2013 23: 14 New
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                      Quote: leon-iv
                      So what?

                      Well, you called your friends. Are they all without family, of course, and are they ready even now in a meat grinder? I doubt it very much.
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      Hto such OPON?

                      We have the police, right?
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      BUT there is always an OMON special squad on duty and it will arrive at its place in half an hour.

                      On duty platoon! Great power. Especially in half an hour after 50 Caucasians going to two entrances and blocking the service, let’s say in the shopping center or Auchan they will massacre there. Even without injuries. Knives. After 20 minutes, leaving behind the mountains of corpses, Caucasians simply scatter. And your on-duty platoon throws Molotov cocktails a specially allocated group of 7-10 Caucasians. Still on the way. They will not even let you get off the bus.
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      For example, in my hometown, they worked out the involvement of the Airborne Forces in law enforcement. What do you think the airborne will breed polones?
                      He himself served in the Airborne Forces and was also involved in maintaining order in the city. But against offensive tactics, the Airborne Forces have no countermeasures.
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      How can I tell you one thing injuring another firearm? The consequence of the latter will be much more serious.

                      You do not take into account the fact that the Organizations are already full of Caucasians and they also are by no means injured. And as soon as the Caucasian lawlessness begins in Moscow, nothing will remain from the security forces in Dagestan for several days.
                      Further, I do not intend to argue with you. I have expressed my opinion and do not see any reasonable arguments against. And to argue in the style of "we will tear them all," I see no point. Of course we will tear it apart, in half a year or a year. But at first we will wash ourselves with blood. The current national and migration policy of the authorities will cost us dearly.
                    5. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 23 October 2013 23: 21 New
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                      Quote: Normal
                      I have expressed my opinion and do not see any reasonable arguments against.

                      Maybe you just don’t want to listen to arguments?
                      What will happen to this "hundred young fighters? They will be kicked in half an hour. And their relatives and fellow tribesmen in a few days. All. And even the most frostbitten ones are well aware of this. But you are not."
                    6. Misantrop
                      Misantrop 23 October 2013 23: 29 New
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                      Quote: Spade
                      They will be injected for half an hour. And their relatives and tribesmen in a few days. All.
                      For one simple reason: the authorities, seeing no other way out, grudgingly say through their teeth: "Now it is POSSIBLE!" Now, after all, they are not touched by no means because they are all SO cool ... lol
                    7. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 23 October 2013 23: 37 New
                      +6
                      Yes, the authorities will not say anything, the situation will completely get out of control. And all that remains for them is to wait for it to end and respond to tantrums from abroad.
                  2. Normal
                    Normal 23 October 2013 23: 39 New
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                    Quote: Spade
                    They will be injected for half an hour.

                    Who?! Who is kicking them? Policemen who can screw only the Slavs, and even then when they are going to absolutely peaceful gatherings? Yes, they can’t even catch them with their belly and equipment. Within half an hour, we can’t even understand what is happening.
                    Quote: Spade
                    You just don’t want to listen to arguments?
                    Arguments in the style of Urrry-ah-ah-ah !!!!? Of course I don’t want to. Are there any others? For example, how are you going to counter raiding tactics? How are you going to neutralize the fifth, Caucasian column in the organs?
                  3. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 23 October 2013 23: 47 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Normal
                    Who?! Who is kicking them? Policemen who can screw only the Slavs, and even then when they are going to absolutely peaceful gatherings?

                    Yes, these are the "policemen".
                    Quote: Normal
                    Arguments in the style of Urrry-ah-ah-ah !!!!? Of course I don’t want to. Are there any others?

                    Have you already hidden under the bed and tremble? We have very effective police units.
                    Quote: Normal
                    For example, how are you going to counter raiding tactics?

                    There will be no raiding tactics. One "raid" and the defendants will flee to their homes to protect their relatives, whom the neighbors will start throwing out of the windows. Are you absolutely in a fairy-tale world?
                    Quote: Normal
                    How are you going to neutralize the fifth, Caucasian column in the organs?

                    Either they will do what is appropriate, or their colleagues themselves will inject. To the noise, remembering the old grievances.

                    It seems to me that you yourself have been intimidated by migrants to hiccups. So write some kind of game. Propaganda is propaganda, but the edges must be seen so as not to make yourself funny.
                  4. leon-iv
                    leon-iv 23 October 2013 23: 50 New
                    -4
                    Yes, they can’t even catch them with their belly and equipment. Within half an hour, we can’t even understand what is happening.

                    everything with you is clearly the real police you saw only on tv. The same riot police, I’m not talking about SOBR and ROSN, do not crawl out of the Caucasus and, unlike Internet wrestlers, like Vladimir experience and knowledge. And within half an hour they will already begin combat work if the situation requires it. And they will not spare their lives.
                    How are you going to neutralize the fifth, Caucasian column in the organs?

                    for example, to say that in case of problems nothing will help their family and their family will be disgraced forever. And if you take our Caucasus, it will be stronger than dynamite. Mentalities
                    And it is one thing to protect a business, and another to go under bullets. With a high degree of probability, all this fifth column will surrender their accomplices. Take an interest in undercover methods of work in SevKaz and how many field commanders have died, like dogs from betrayal.
                  5. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 23 October 2013 23: 56 New
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                    Quote: Normal
                    How are you going to neutralize the fifth, Caucasian column in the organs?
                    Just recently from a retired special forces officer (with a fair amount of combat experience) I heard an interesting phrase just about this. He says to me, now it's easier. No need to think about where to get hold of a weapon if something happens. THESE - do not mind, "blind" in the moment. A few seconds - and here I am with a connection, on wheels and with a weapon. And no problem with keeping an illegal barrel. It was said, it seems, not seriously, but ... it makes you think ...
                  6. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 24 October 2013 16: 51 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Misantrop
                    makes me think...
                    Including that to answer reasonably, and not sculpt silent minuses. Or do not even have the courage to voice your, no doubt, VERY valuable opinion?
                    Yes, among non-Russians in uniform, there are great guys who would argue. It’s only that they, with an abrupt deterioration in the criminal situation in the city, will rush precisely THERE, and will not hang around in quiet areas, doing the usual extortion from law-abiding citizens. So the chance to accidentally overwhelm a possible ally is vanishingly small ... request
                  7. Normal
                    Normal 24 October 2013 17: 37 New
                    0
                    Quote: Misantrop
                    Quote: Misantrop
                    makes me think...
                    Including that to answer reasonably, and not sculpt silent minuses. Or the courage is not even enough to voice your, no doubt, VERY valuable opinion.

                    I do not understand your complaints. Why did you decide that I sculpt silent cons? He expressed his opinion quite clearly and reasonedly. In response, banter, ridicule and no arguments.

                    Yes, I'm on the site, but it’s not very convenient to post from a tablet. I’ll be in the hospital, we can clarify the situation, if there is a desire.
                  8. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 24 October 2013 18: 01 New
                    0
                    Quote: Normal
                    Why did you decide that I sculpt silent cons?
                    And why did you decide that the claim is specifically for you? I was interested in the opinion of that freak that poked at minus and quietly slipped by. It is for this reason that I quoted precisely MY post (minus), and not someone else. If I knew who it was, I would ask him directly. I just have no complaints about you, you are always trying to clearly argue your position. I may not always agree with her, but she IS, you can agree or argue with her. SILENT cons from stupid goblins, who are unable to clearly formulate even a couple of phrases, but DO NOT AGREE ... are annoying.
                  9. Normal
                    Normal 25 October 2013 00: 06 New
                    0
                    Quote: Misantrop
                    And why did you decide that the claim is specifically for you?

                    This is a misunderstanding. Just your comment looks like a continuation of the previous one, started with my quote. So I thought you were contacting me. yes The situation cleared up and, I hope, we are not in a complaint to each otherhi
                  10. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 25 October 2013 20: 34 New
                    +1
                    drinks It is interesting to discuss with you, even if the positions do not coincide
      2. Horn
        Horn 24 October 2013 06: 27 New
        +4
        Of course, I would like it according to your words ... But something is not being "pricked" now. Not for half an hour, not half a decade.
      3. Misantrop
        Misantrop 24 October 2013 16: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: Horn
        But something is not being "poked" now.
        So far, ALL PUNISHMENT MACHINE of not the weakest state is on their side. And for an individual citizen, no matter how cool he is, competing with her is not easy ... request
  2. leon-iv
    leon-iv 23 October 2013 23: 29 New
    -1
    Strongly doubt.

    Your right
    After 20 minutes, leaving behind the mountains of corpses, Caucasians simply scatter. And your on-duty platoon throws Molotov cocktails a specially allocated group of 7-10 Caucasians. Still on the way. They will not even let you get off the bus.

    You are a dreamer))
    It’s just that it’s impossible to do this even in the Caucasus, but in the Central Asia it is even more difficult. And yes it will not go to the Urals. And if they find out that they were a corpse, then ROSN and SOBR and other comrades will come there.
    But against offensive tactics, the Airborne Forces have no countermeasures.

    Army case to block territory
    And as soon as the Caucasian lawlessness begins in Moscow, nothing will remain from the security forces in Dagestan for several days.

    Yeah, with pistols on the TNK and BMP can still shoot down helicopters and planes from PMa?
    But at first we’ll wash ourselves with blood.


    Why do you think that the Russians will tolerate? For example, in the same geyropov the situation is MUCH worse. And we, as mononation, will respond faster to the threat.
    The current national and migration policies of the authorities will cost us dearly.

    Of course, deportation is a good thing, therefore it is necessary to send illegal immigrants to community service so that he can earn a business class airplane, and then the suitcase station Churkestan.
  3. Normal
    Normal 23 October 2013 23: 53 New
    +5
    Quote: leon-iv
    You are a dreamer))

    No, I'm a realist. A dreamer, judging by the fact that you write.

    Watch the video "Caucasians shot the bar on Lomonosov Street" again
    If you see there OMON, SOBR, ROSN, TANKI and BMP, also blocking the city in the same ARMY, let me know, I will be very grateful.
    I also ask you to tell me what punishment the character from this video suffered for the promise to fill the city with blood.
  4. kaktus
    kaktus 23 October 2013 18: 44 New
    +6
    God forbid! stop something becomes scary, precisely because it’s possible
  5. rpek32
    rpek32 23 October 2013 21: 22 New
    +4
    Quote: leon-iv
    If there will be a nuclear war

    What?
    NW is a means of deterring the enemy, but not an attack. A shield, but not a sword.
  6. GDP
    GDP 24 October 2013 09: 51 New
    +1
    Correctly, they can peacefully join our territories to themselves :) The Chinese people, patient time, works for them ...
  • smile
    smile 23 October 2013 17: 02 New
    +2
    APES
    The overwhelming answer is with the overwhelming majority in Russia, where they have the greatest opportunities for implementation. only very few study abroad. but there are only a few who live there — they’re just nobody there, and there’s no way to call them.
    1. APES
      APES 23 October 2013 22: 07 New
      +6
      I didn’t mean the vast majority,
      the minority is more interesting, but it has real leverage.

      Quote: smile
      they’re just nobody there, and there’s no way to call them.

      there are even members of the Bilderber Club, I generally keep quiet about Gorbachev - I would not be surprised if a monument gets there during his lifetime - this is an example, for "imitation" of everyone else
  • Lesnik
    Lesnik 23 October 2013 16: 28 New
    -4
    For a little while there is no disunity?
    and what a period of such a way I can not understand my scant mind
    I clarify the situation is purely hypothetical
    aliens arrived and declared war on us what the legislative framework of the Russian Federation tells us. All killers, rapists to the nail? Do I understand you correctly?
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 46 New
      +5
      All killers, rapists to the nail? Do I understand you correctly?

      For 1 immediately a labor camp for a simplified judicial procedure
      for the 2nd death penalty. And most likely a reservist from Ust-Perkhuevsk will plop on the spot.
  • smile
    smile 23 October 2013 17: 00 New
    0
    leon-iv
    Absolutely right. Moreover, the comrade not only poorly represents the mechanism; he has no idea about it. Already long ago, the algorithms for the actions of the security forces were worked out and the corresponding plans were drawn up. The city will be cleaned up in a day — two, foreigners will be brought to work on a voluntary-compulsory basis, or interned — and there will be no excesses, unless episodic — well, the same happened in Moscow on the 41st, when food shops were even raided.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 23 October 2013 20: 53 New
      +9
      Quote: smile
      The city will be cleaned in a day - two,

      Or maybe it is not necessary to bring to urgent sweeps? Can it just conduct a quiet check and expel all illegal immigrants from the country? And then put a stiff barrier to such penetrations?
      1. smile
        smile 24 October 2013 01: 04 New
        -1
        Egoza
        Better of course, ktozh argues. But one of the most important reasons that people are looking at labor migration through fingers is also that, to some extent, the Central Asian republics are oriented toward Russia, an incentive measure, so to speak. Moreover, no matter what the people say, Central Asian labor migrants bring us much less problems and much more benefit than people from the North Caucasus who come quite legally and have Russian citizenship. And they can be cleaned up (like our other crime, according to the same plans) can only be effective if a state of emergency or martial law is declared, when certain articles of the constitution are really suspended and emergency powers are granted (this happens in any country. Not only in Russia).

        An example is when the Germans turned to Paris in '14, all the criminals (count people with criminal records) and prostitutes (I never got it, but those who were walking aunts for what).
        But this is possible only in extraordinary cases, otherwise, the usual procedure and the usual tyagomotina- courts, lawyers, appeals and huge amounts of money for their maintenance and expulsion. Law is law.
        Remember, when after the outbreak of the war with Georgia, in a matter of days, without any extradition, all Georgian criminals were deported to Moscow and sent to Il 76 to Georgia (if I am not mistaken, through Azerbaijan) a cry was raised all over the world, they say, Russian animals deported their comrades to not intended for the carriage of passengers by air .... :)))
        1. Proud.
          Proud. 24 October 2013 04: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: smile
          ) and prostitutes (I never got it, but walking aunts for something).

          In order for the defenders to “keep the heart hard.” Remember, as in the joke (I beg your pardon from the Ladies). “As long as HE is hard, HEART is soft. HE is soft, HEART is hard." (Almost a joke)
          1. smile
            smile 25 October 2013 02: 05 New
            +1
            Gordey
            :))) Well, yes .... but the order to put Parisian women of light behavior to the wall issued an explicit ..... Hollande! :)))) I think even the ladies will agree with me, turning a blind eye to your joke .... although normal women know such jokes no less than we do .... :)))))
  • Mairos
    Mairos 23 October 2013 17: 10 New
    +6
    "You have a bad idea of ​​the punitive mechanism of the state in the period of war and preparation for it." - that's for sure. Foreigners will then be equipped to leave rather quickly, although Moldovans and Ukrainians can, as an alternative, be offered to join the army and receive citizenship automatically. And this is also a lot of people, albeit "foreign", but their own, native.
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 23 October 2013 17: 28 New
    +4
    Quote: leon-iv
    BUT unofficial data Indicates that up to a third of crimes are migrant workers. And for rape more than 50.

    Neighbor Belarus.
    What kind of unofficial data is this - OBS, or what? One woman said?
    There are too many lies and myths in the discussion around migrants. The main one is “ethnic crime from Central Asia and the Transcaucasus swept over Russia. It is necessary to close all of these Tajiks, Uzbeks, Azerbaijanis, the entrance to Russia. They got it. ”
    So, they say that from the side it is more visible - the number of crimes committed by immigrants from the CIS in 2012 amounted to 1.6% of all committed offenses (37 thousand out of more than 2 million 300 thousand offenses). Moreover, immigrants from Central Asia and the Caucasus have committed even fewer crimes, since 1.6% are citizens of Ukraine and, sadly, my Belarus.
    In Moscow, the situation is somewhat different, since there are much more migrants than the average for Russia. Natives of the CIS in 2012 committed about 5% of crimes (9 thousand out of 173 thousand of the total number of offenses). Again, if you subtract Ukraine and Belarus we get less than 5%. Everyone understands why they need to talk about ethnic crime. Ethnic crime causes the greatest indignation and anger of the people. The events in Pugachev and Biryulyovo showed this. Only if in Biryulyovo the immigrant from Azerbaijan is charged with the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov, then in Pugachev, the culprit is a native of Chechnya. And the explosion in a bus in Volgograd was organized by a terrorist from Dagestan.
    And here we come to the main thing. The argument that the introduction of visas will solve the problem of ethnic crime is false. Ethnic crime does not come from Tajiks, Uzbeks, or Azerbaijanis. She comes from the North Caucasus. That is why the data on the crime of immigrants from the Caucasus are classified. Police say that Chechens and immigrants from Dagestan are citizens of Russia and they do not keep separate records for them. Here is obvious guile. They all lead, but are afraid to make public. Because it will become obvious to everyone where the roots of ethnic crime are, and that the problem of the North Caucasus will have to be addressed. Perhaps in a referendum.
    And now it is profitable for the police to nod at ethnic criminality. This is how they will close the border from these chocks, then we will show these local bandits! We'll take everyone away! And now, excuse me, all sorts of lumps interfere. And there is data on crime on any search engine. And no "unofficial data" is needed.
    As for visas, Putin is against it.
    Some more open information.
    "There is no visa regime. The question is, if we introduce it - we can think about it - but if we introduce it, will it be better or worse? It is also a problematic issue, because the corruption that was talked about here, it can move from markets to the border, "Putin said at a meeting of the Council for Interethnic Relations.
    The president, who suspects his border guards of corruption and on this basis signs in impotence to solve the most urgent issue, is, of course, strong.
    That is, he is absolutely sure that corruption is ineradicable, it’s ridiculous to even think that it might not exist somewhere. Now I can’t find a quote, but I remember for sure that one day he, answering the question, why the money is not allocated for the construction of roads, replied: they would steal it anyway.
    In general, there is a feeling that he was really tired of all these problems that are falling on him from all sides.
    He planted manual control everywhere, but does not want to manage. Swimming with dolphins, catching pikes, diving, flying, stroking tigers, sending people to prison - but there are many other interesting activities. And then they pull: decide! decide! Yes, he does not want to decide anything for a long time.
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 23 October 2013 17: 31 New
      0
      What kind of unofficial data is this - OBS, or what? One woman said?

      opera from district departments
    2. Cthulhu
      Cthulhu 23 October 2013 19: 03 New
      +7
      goldfinger ... you are a little cunning when comparing the digital indicators of the solved crimes with the total number of committed (registered). More correctly, it would be to calculate the percentage of the total number of disclosed wink. Secondly, you do not take into account some unknowns in your impulse. Solving crimes committed by the locals is much easier than committed by illegal immigrants. The presence in the orientation of special signs: a man of Asian appearance, leaves 0 chance to solve such a crime. The activity of operational services among illegal immigrants yields results only for organized ethnic groups, and for individuals it is practically equal to 0. Since the bulk of illegal immigrants is an unorganized crowd. And any introduction to a completely isolated and alien ethnic group is not promising. Only more serious events remain. Which no one will use when uncovering the usual street robbery, unfortunately. But only on grave and especially grave crimes. Therefore, these crimes are uncovered in the region of 70%, and the proportion of illegal immigrants there is already much higher, take at least rapewink Then we set ourselves the goal of calculating% of not trustworthy citizens, so to speak, by calculating the percentage of criminals of the country's population, and the percentage of the number of illegal immigrants. The numbers are generally amazing. And we add to our formula the number of crimes committed only on the street, minus everyday life (I hope you understand that it is street crime that characterizes the criminal situation), then I dare to assure you that you will be in shock. Therefore, it is not necessary to give the indiscriminate statistics so indiscriminately. Although true, it does not reflect the real situation. And criminological research on this topic really confirms 40-50% crime by CIS citizens. For example, from Soviet times to the present, 80% of apartment thefts are the lot of Georgian citizens. So this problem is not sucked from the finger, but more than relevant.
    3. Horn
      Horn 24 October 2013 06: 34 New
      0
      And skoko-skoko percent are "come in large numbers" from autochthons? And then compare the percentages?
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 23 October 2013 17: 36 New
    14
    Quote: leon-iv
    We are forbidden to indicate the nationality of the detainees.

    Yeah, a paradox. In a normal situation, they are proud of their nationality, and each time they try to emphasize it. Dancing in the subway is an example of this. But when the question of a committed crime comes up, they immediately start yelling about the inadmissibility of mentioning nationality. It’s time to decide, gentlemen have come, are you proud of your origin, or are you embarrassed?
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 23 October 2013 17: 37 New
      +3
      In a normal situation, they are proud of their nationality, and each time they try to emphasize it.

      It is indicated in the protocol. In publicly available reports this is not given.
      And so when they are pressed, they forget the Russian language. And when they squeeze, they begin to speak immediately and quite fluently.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 23 October 2013 18: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: leon-iv
        And so when they are pressed, they forget the Russian language. And when they squeeze, they begin to speak immediately and quite fluently.

        Put +. But the question. In which case they forget, and in which they fluently speak?
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 23 October 2013 20: 44 New
          +1
          Naturally, when it’s profitable for them, or when they’ll give them horns.
  • vlad0
    vlad0 23 October 2013 15: 54 New
    18
    What other statistics do you need? Watch TV: rape, robbery, drug trafficking - some Gaster from the CIS countries and our "beloved" faces "without nationality" from the North Caucasus Federal District.
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 23 October 2013 15: 57 New
    21
    I will continue. I know close many operas.
    So 80% of theft is the Caucasus. Our people are hired only for complex technical issues.
    Prostitution Armenians, dope Azeri and gypsies as distributors.
  • Shooter308ful
    Shooter308ful 23 October 2013 15: 57 New
    +9
    Dear, read the statistics yourself, and if you are too lazy, then look at the criminal news.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 23 October 2013 16: 30 New
      -22 qualifying.
      Quote: Shooter308ful
      Dear, read the statistics yourself, and if you are too lazy,

      from the bottom, look at the statistics ..... it seems basically except rape, everything is done by Russian citizens .....
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 23 October 2013 23: 47 New
        +2
        And you don't take into account the percentage of visitors and citizens of Russia? If, according to unofficial data, the number of emigrants in Russia is about 11 million, then by simple mathematical calculations it is possible to deduce the "average permissible" percentage of crimes by emigrants of the order of 7-8%. The diagram shows everything, although I am not sure of its reliability. And rape, so this is not a crime at all, but self-indulgence ...
  • Orik
    Orik 23 October 2013 16: 22 New
    17
    Here it is statistics and this is only official and only migrants, and there are also our ... "citizens".
  • Heccrbq .2
    Heccrbq .2 23 October 2013 17: 38 New
    +5
    really piercing eyes?
  • alekseyal
    alekseyal 23 October 2013 18: 08 New
    +8
    http://hardingush.livejournal.com/117441.html
    Terrorist reaction
    I try not to publish other people's letters. Especially if the author asks not to publish. But today I received a message that I cannot but share with you. I removed the information about the girl who wrote it and corrected the errors in the letter. Why do I find it important to publish it? Not out of praise for me, of course. There is simply something important in this letter for all of us. It contains the most important information that gives hope for the future ...

    Salam to you, Hardingush!
    I read everything you write. Almost from the very beginning, how did you start blogging. Thank you for showing people the other Caucasus. Present. I really like the way you write. I live in Volgograd. Our family came here from ______. I am studying in the ______ class of _______ school. I have been living in Volgograd for more than 6 years. Of course, I am a Muslim. I have never had a problem here because of my religion or nationality. But when the terrorist attack occurred, my parents forbade me to go to school. They were afraid that they might offend me. Many Muslim girls did not go to schools and institutes either, because they were also afraid that all the blame would be placed on us. We corresponded with them on the Internet and we all advised each other not to go anywhere at all.

    The teacher called, she was also worried about me. I told her that until I went to classes. She took this with understanding. Classmates called me, also worried about me. I also replied that I couldn’t go to school yet. The next morning, classmates rang my doorbell. They told me, get ready, we will accompany you to school and home as long as you need and we will not let anyone offend you. All of them are Russian boys and girls. Even my mother cried when she heard.

    I just wanted to share it with you. You recently wrote about the people and about the fact that everyone is indifferent to each other’s friend. This is not true. I am escorted to and from school by my Russian brothers and sisters - I call them that now because I can’t just call classmates. We Muslims are against terrorists. And they were never supported. Do not publish my letter, because I am poorly given the Russian language and I make many mistakes. But, if you are going to write a blog, please correct the mistakes and do not write my name and where I study. I wrote them just for you. I just wanted to tell you that it’s not so bad here.
    1. domokl
      domokl 23 October 2013 20: 30 New
      10
      I didn’t want to write about the article, but after reading the comments I understood, it’s necessary. It’s just because almost everything I read was not just an enemy I wrote, but an ardent enemy of Russia.
      Caucasians (note, no one divides Caucasians into Russian and foreign, just Caucasians) steal, kill, rape, come here and so on. They need to be driven from Moscow, and from Russia. This is the majority opinion.
      And I put myself in the place of a Caucasian OMON (it’s no secret that most of these men who risk their skin almost daily) are Caucasians), who went to the site and read what they write about him, or the parents of that Azerbaijani man who saved the Russian girls, but died himself, his brothers. How should they respond to the fact that they are potential thieves, murderers or rapists?
      Somehow discreetly we stopped talking about criminals, and began to talk about nationalities.
      Why did everyone shut up when the FSB unveiled photos of female accomplices of the suicide bomber? Because the faces were Russian? Or because it does not fit into the national theory of hatred?
      That’s why I said, I’m saying and I’ll tell the common truth that it’s necessary to catch and punish not the nationality, but the criminals, including those with whose filing the lawlessness and Caucasians as well. Catch and punish in the most merciless way. introduce in the Criminal Code an article providing for civil servants a punishment that is multiply increased. Two to three times and with a search for all property.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 23 October 2013 21: 46 New
        10
        domokl (1) RU Today, 20:30 ↑
        ---------------------------------------

        I understand your position ... I never attributed myself to the nationalists, and, pah-pah, I will not. But the policy pursued by our authorities will lead to a terrible one. An abscess cannot inflict indefinitely. It will either be cured or removed. Worst of all, when this abscess is attempted to be cured not by the surgeon, but by the manager. Are you talking about the OMON Caucasian? I consider this a blurring of the problem. But Russians, Tatars, Chuvashs, Bashkirs are not among them? Yes, honor and praise to these guys from the Caucasus who crush geeks. And then what? The negative image is formed by those unique individuals who DEMONSTRATELY !!! (and not on occasion) dance lezginka, shoot at celebrations and for no reason, behave rude and defiant. And rarely can anyone put in place 3-4 young men grabbing girls by hands. And only reinforced OMON units cope with wedding processions blocking the central avenues. So who will the people form the image of a Caucasian patriot (who is somewhere out there) or scumbags who are here somewhere? It is painful to realize this, because the Russian people are by nature the most welcoming, tolerant and hospitable. You can object to me, but this is my personal opinion.
        1. domokl
          domokl 24 October 2013 06: 08 New
          +3
          You carefully read my comment. It seems that no one is even interested in the opinions of others. I’m just saying that the behavior of a part of Caucasians in Moscow is caused by the fact that local officials turn a blind eye to crimes.
          Biryulyovo suddenly appeared. Yes, come on. Immediately after the opening of the Pokrovsky market in the beginning of the 90, there was a mess there. I myself was there several times at that time. I lived very close. What did the local authorities not see for this 20 for years? for the appropriate bribe.
      2. Normal
        Normal 23 October 2013 22: 28 New
        +7
        Quote: domokl
        Why did everyone shut up when the FSB unveiled photos of female accomplices? Because the faces were Russian?

        No need to wishful thinking - no one shut up as you would like.
        Were the "muzzles" Russian? Something I do not remember you have "Caucasian muzzles". Well, of course, Caucasian nationalities have faces, but if Russians have "muzzles"

        Or because it does not fit into the national theory of hatred?
        This fits into the ethno-religious extremist "theory" Or is the husband and accomplice of the suicide bomber in Orthodoxy or paganism? Or maybe he left the Vologda forests to bandit and prepare terrorist attacks?
        And what does the fact that the photographs show Russian faces? And the fact that in the Russian, Orthodox spiritual and moral space there was no place and points of application for their dark, bestial, hateful instincts. To realize their extremist motives, these former Russians had to convert to Islam and go to Dagestan.
        Radicalism and extremism need a nutrient medium, and this environment is not among the Russian people.
        And as for the national theory of hatred, this is not towards the Russians, it is towards the Chechens. The Chechens have returned from the Kazakh steppes to their homeland, and where are almost 200 thousand Russians living in Chechnya?
        1. domokl
          domokl 24 October 2013 06: 17 New
          -1
          Quote: Normal
          ? I don’t remember you have "Caucasian muzzles

          But I never (probably lacked education) did not know such faces. I know Chechens, I know Armenians, Dagestanis, Ossetians, Georgians and many more peoples, but I don’t know Caucasian ethnicity.
          Quote: Normal
          This fits into the ethno-religious extremist "theory" Or is the husband and accomplice of the suicide bomber in Orthodoxy or paganism? Or maybe he left the Vologda forests to bandit and prepare terrorist attacks?

          Contradict yourself. He was Russian and went to kill people. Namely people, not Russians or others. And you don’t tell me about justice, two days ago, in our region, almost a hundred graves were destroyed with such a sense of justice by the guys.
          Quote: Normal
          Chechens have returned from the Kazakh steppes to their homeland, but where are almost 200 000 thousands of Russians living in Chechnya?

          But this is not a question for the Chechens, but for the authorities. Who was to blame for the outbreak of war? Only Chechens? By the way, after the flood in the Far East, the population of the region decreased by 300000 people. Yesterday’s information. Where did they go? You don’t have to put everything in one a bunch.
    2. Lesnik
      Lesnik 23 October 2013 23: 23 New
      0
      Straight tear broke! i cried
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 24 October 2013 01: 57 New
        0
        excuse this not for you but about the "Letters from the Front"
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 23 October 2013 20: 20 New
    +6
    Quote: smersh70
    And if in peacetime a significant part of them trades in theft, robbery, violence and killings against the indigenous population, then what will happen in wartime

    let him bring statistics .... and then he draws conclusions .. the author bent over in this article .... better let him look at the officials and write about them .... hi

    I understand that it’s not pleasant for you to realize this, but, unfortunately, the author is right about this. What does the vast majority do (not counting the builders, janitors of Asians, and then, if they find work)? Sow? Plowing? Do milling workers go to the factory? You know the answer better than me - control and participation in the criminal business (hijacking, dope, pickpockets, frauds, gambling, control of markets and bases, etc.). Even if it’s not a criminal business, it’s all the same as a parasitic link. Again, I’ll make a reservation, not all. Therefore, no statistics in the percentage of offenses and crimes committed in the public domain will not be given (although it is).
    1. domokl
      domokl 23 October 2013 20: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      . Again, a reservation, not all

      But the author calls against everyone! And about wartime, the author should have learned a little about the history of his native country. Although, mentioning the order to introduce a state of siege in Moscow, it would not be a sin to read it. And then the whole point of the article would simply be lost. Those draconian measures who entered by this order stopped not only spies, but also criminals of all stripes. Those who jerked received a bullet in the forehead right on the street without trial.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 23 October 2013 22: 03 New
        +4
        I do not claim the truth of the author in the first instance, I’m talking about the problem, as such ...
        1. domokl
          domokl 24 October 2013 06: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Semyon Semyonich
          I'm talking about the problem as such ...

          No one denies the existence of a problem. There are a lot of factors. Even the Unified State Examination refers to them. But the discussion came down to simple-they came and oppressed the local population. For boys, this is probably normal. Zero for adults are gone. You need to look for the reasons and eliminate them radically. Corruption, the inviolability of the owners of crusts, telephone law, the power of the wallet are the main and probably the main ones.
  • wulf66
    wulf66 23 October 2013 21: 56 New
    +6
    Muslims will not beat the bureaucrats, the bureaucrats are the first to shed. And this uneducated crowd, if you want to start jihad, is easy. Especially if they understand or they think, or they are convinced that there will be no rebuff.
  • Megatron
    Megatron 23 October 2013 23: 22 New
    +1
    Oh, the Azerbaijani lobby climbed again, in all its glory.
  • Siberian German
    Siberian German 24 October 2013 04: 22 New
    +3
    I agree one hundred percent - the main enemies of Russia inside are those who saw budgets, do not fulfill their duties as "servants of the people" - including on the issue of control over all these illegal immigrants
  • Horn
    Horn 24 October 2013 06: 21 New
    +2
    "Better" or worse to look at the officials is up to the author of the article. If you don't like it, write your own.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 24 October 2013 09: 09 New
    +3
    The author, unfortunately, is right. If in the Great Patriotic War, Stalin ruled the country and could with an iron hand gather all the husbands satisfied and dissatisfied in one fist to confront the enemy, now there is no such leader.

    God forbid, lead the author’s scenario, that the enemies will reach Moscow, rebellions can immediately break out both in Moscow and in other republics, and an external war can develop into a civil war.

    Although some guys mow down from the army, most Russians are sure they are ready to defend themselves, from Siberia, Vladivostok to Kaliningrad, it’s just that it will be very difficult to assemble them quickly, the units are fragmented and not worked together, so Putin conducts all these exercises for synchronous rebuffs actions in case of aggression, God forbid that he succeeds, and the command turned out to be competent and true.
  • user
    user 24 October 2013 10: 38 New
    +1
    Even in the Soviet Army, if two soldiers of Russian or Ukrainian fought, then nothing terrible happened. But if one of the parties was a representative of the nationalities of Central Asia or the Caucasus, then the political department fell asleep on us in full (God forbid, they will attribute the ethnic conflict). That's why there were no such incidents (in such quantity).
  • brelok
    brelok 24 October 2013 11: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: smersh70
    let him bring statistics .... and then he draws conclusions .. the author bent over in this article .... better let him look at the officials and write about them ....

    Yes, no, everything’s the case. Cultural and educated people don’t come to us! They are well at home. People from the feudal system are coming to us: they will not live according to our laws!
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 24 October 2013 13: 12 New
    +3
    Yes Yes. It was officials right up to the president who arranged it all. This article reads between the lines. It is necessary to establish starting with them, and then the diasporas can be squeezed out of Moscow. In the reverse order, it will not work
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 24 October 2013 15: 05 New
      +1
      These are two sides of one gang, the diaspora and the officials covering them.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 23 October 2013 15: 42 New
    14
    Long live liberalism and tolerance! pah, his mother ...
  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 23 October 2013 15: 43 New
    15
    and all from the fact that we want to be pretty in front of all kinds of Europe. we are all embarrassed to use power.
    and nefig - to all lyuley, at home, a residence permit, to attract for violating it.
    1. APES
      APES 23 October 2013 16: 05 New
      +9
      Quote: Silkway0026
      that we want to be pretty in front of all sorts of Europe

      everything is simpler - the main reason is GREED and thirst for money, and not only the power of those holding
    2. 225chay
      225chay 23 October 2013 17: 45 New
      +7
      Quote: Silkway0026
      and all from the fact that we want to be pretty in front of all kinds of Europe.

      Not to Us, but to the Kremlin authorities!
    3. alekseyal
      alekseyal 23 October 2013 19: 36 New
      +1
      http://top.rbc.ru/economics/23/10/2013/884488.shtml

      Three dozen markets will be closed in Moscow
      Until January 1, 2015 the Moscow government plans to close about 30 capital markets, said the deputy mayor of the capital for regional security Alexander Gorbenko in the State Duma, answering the questions of the deputies during the government hour dedicated to the events in the Biryulyovo West area. According to him, this work is under the daily supervision of the mayor and will take place "exactly on schedule."
      1. Nikolay D.
        Nikolay D. 24 October 2013 00: 43 New
        +1
        "Three dozen more markets will be closed in Moscow"

        I represent the joyful faces of supermarket owners. Profit!

        "Look for someone who benefits from it!"
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 23 October 2013 15: 43 New
    0
    Author Mikhail Khodarenok

    Eccentric letter M
    If this happens, then all comrades with dark skin will be sent home on foot. Who does not like to work in a concentration camp for the good of the motherland.
    NO ONE WILL FEED 100500 heads. And most likely they will run away. Mentalities
    1. vlad0
      vlad0 23 October 2013 15: 59 New
      12
      To begin with, these "tovarischi with dark skin" will arrange something here that "St. Bartholomew's night" will seem like a child's prank. And only then there will be camps, escapes home and the trial of triplets as part of the patrol.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 06 New
        -1
        To begin with, these "tovarischi with dark skin" will arrange something here that "St. Bartholomew's night" will seem like a child's prank. And only then there will be camps, escapes home and the trial of triplets as part of the patrol.

        You yourself believe in it. Then this will be the last day of their churka.stanov as conditionally civilized territories. You do not forget that for this our army will raze them to the ground.
        Further, how do you imagine it will burst into apartments? So many have smoothbore weapons. And the entrances are closed tightly and the apartments with the doors of which the current Ministry of Emergencies can do.
        And so the boar Vepr is ready shops for him too. Cho they are not the first.
        1. vlad0
          vlad0 23 October 2013 17: 15 New
          12
          Sorry, but you probably rarely went outside of Moscow, especially in the 90s. The concepts of anarchy, anarchy, an uncontrollable crowd, the powerlessness of the authorities, etc. you know little. A boar is enough for you for a couple of minutes of active confrontation.
    2. Lesnik
      Lesnik 23 October 2013 16: 07 New
      +8
      I’m embarrassed to ask - what will it look like in practice if they wanted to sneeze at laws and law enforcement agencies already now (conditionally peaceful time)?
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 12 New
        -4
        I’m embarrassed to ask - what will it look like in practice if they wanted to sneeze at laws and law enforcement agencies already now (conditionally peaceful time)?

        See above, in preparation for war, many civil liberties cease to exist automatically.
        And if they also give the people weapons, they will first flee.
        1. Lesnik
          Lesnik 23 October 2013 16: 23 New
          +7
          I apologize wildly - what is this "period of preparation for war" in which the laws do not apply? Can be more
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 35 New
            0
            Can be more

            Damn so lazy to write because these questions appear constantly.
            Briefly there is a peaceful state
            There is a military, which can be divided into
            It is implied by the type of conflict and threats, see doctrine.
            For example, local conflict is one thing, and large-scale war is another.
            In the first case, this will affect the life of a simple citizen minimally
            In the second case, with a probability of 146%, you, as a man, will be called up in the sun.
            Next is the change in the status of objects and objects of law. Some provisions of the constitution are repealed.
            You can read the law
            On mobilization training and mobilization in the Russian Federation
            But this is the open part.
            1. Lesnik
              Lesnik 23 October 2013 16: 53 New
              +5
              again, I didn’t understand anything. Tell me right without a trial to the nail so what?
              or not, does wartime give anyone the legal right to shoot the citizens of their country? where does the announcement or not the announcement of mobilization?
              1. leon-iv
                leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 56 New
                -3
                Tell me right without a trial to the nail so what?

                Well, actually, the legal proceedings are conducted accelerated. Without Polonez with a lawyer and prosecutor.
                where does the announcement or not the announcement of mobilization?

                YYY
                Read the law on mobilization. And military doctrine.
                1. Lesnik
                  Lesnik 23 October 2013 17: 06 New
                  +7
                  I just read it carefully, unlike you.
                  And you can leave your fabrications for female students!
                  1. leon-iv
                    leon-iv 23 October 2013 17: 22 New
                    -1
                    3) to provide, in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation, in time of war, in order to ensure the country's defense and state security, the buildings, structures, vehicles and other property owned by them, with compensation by the state for the losses incurred by them in the manner determined by the Government of the Russian Federation.


                    2. Citizens during the period of mobilization and in wartime are involved in the implementation of work in order to ensure the defense of the country and the security of the state, and are also enrolled in special formations in the prescribed manner.

                    3

                    Well then, I'm waiting for comments on this article?
                    1. Lesnik
                      Lesnik 23 October 2013 17: 30 New
                      +3
                      And this is mushrooms to the students? I do not understand why this quote? What is relevant to the subject of discussion?
                      Then you can tell a joke, even laugh
                      1. leon-iv
                        leon-iv 23 October 2013 17: 35 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Forestman
                        And this is mushrooms to the students? I do not understand why this quote? What is relevant to the subject of discussion?
                        Then you can tell a joke, even laugh

                        1. The right to private property is protected by law.

                        2. Everyone has the right to own property, to own, use and dispose of it individually as well as jointly with other persons.

                        3. No one may be deprived of his property except by court decision. Forced alienation of property for state needs can be made only with prior and equal compensation.

                        4. The right of inheritance is guaranteed.

                        Well, there he is.
                        During the mobilization period and in wartime, citizens are involved in the implementation of work in order to ensure the country's defense and state security, and are also enrolled in special formations in the prescribed manner.

                        And this tells us that any office plankton will be involved in any work and service.
                        And so is Adyos Amigos.
                      2. Roman_999
                        Roman_999 23 October 2013 20: 14 New
                        10
                        The venerable leon-iv I want to sincerely congratulate you on receiving the title of Absolute Theorist in my eyes - without sarcasm. But the reality is many times more complicated, and even on the issue of visitors it needs to be closed realistically and consistently. Not regarding those who lived and have been living in Russia for more than 10 years, with them separately, because there are citizens with a capital letter. But it is precisely the masses that must be dispersed immediately. I do not escalate, but not white even in my city - rolls over.
                      3. Lesnik
                        Lesnik 23 October 2013 23: 32 New
                        +3
                        The dear leon-iv (5) text you quoted is in no way consistent with the topic of our discussion! Do not shy away from what the "office plankton" has to do with it, or did you put all "our friends from the Caucasus" into it?
                  2. Doctor Evil
                    Doctor Evil 23 October 2013 18: 16 New
                    +8
                    I'm afraid the doctrine says nothing about non-citizens, and there are tens of millions of them in Russia. They will hide like cockroaches for a start, as they dare, they will crawl out. It is worth considering that many of them are already "Russians" and are subject to conscription, and are also enrolled in special formations in the prescribed manner. They will receive weapons and scatter. Here are the armed ethnic gangs in our rear. Hypothetical scenario.
                    1. Nikolay D.
                      Nikolay D. 24 October 2013 00: 55 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Doctor Evil
                      I'm afraid nothing is said in the doctrine about aliens, and there are tens of millions of them in Russia.

                      Come on, cast your shadow over the fence. Dozens of whom, Caucasians or other "blacks"? And why did you decide that all of them will join the ranks of the Wahhabis? Many have the same families, problems. And do not forget, it is always easier to fight a monkey than a "professional SS member".
            2. your1970
              your1970 23 October 2013 23: 15 New
              +2
              when martial law is introduced, the same act establishes restrictions on the movement of persons, time of movement, documents giving the possibility of such movement, responsibility for violation of this order, control of the streets is carried out by commandant patrols

              curfew in Grozny - shot at anyone who even moved at night
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 23 October 2013 18: 13 New
            +2
            Quote: leon-iv
            In the second case, with a probability of 146%, you

            I’m afraid it’s not smart, but 146% is how?
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      2. virm
        virm 23 October 2013 17: 46 New
        +8
        And who will be given the weapon? Caucasian and Central Asian migrants or local? And who will give this weapon? Those who brought these migrants here? Those who are fighting Russian "extremists"?
        Looking at the actions and words of the authorities, I think we, the Russians, and not the newcomers, will be the game.
        There is a fear that the stores of light weapons are already ready for distribution to migrants. That mobilization measures have already been drawn up. And groups of Islamic militants already know what to do at Ch.
        Again. Nobody will give weapons to the Russian population. Since, after the reprisal against migrants, the armed Russians will begin to ask questions to Putin and the company. And maybe even before that.
      3. Nikolay D.
        Nikolay D. 24 October 2013 00: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: leon-iv
        And if they also give the people weapons, they will first flee.


        No, no one will give Russian weapons en masse, then they will begin to hang up fat bureaucrats in the trees.
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 23 October 2013 17: 17 New
    +9
    Quote: leon-iv
    Eccentric letter M
    If this happens, then all comrades with dark skin will be sent home on foot. Who does not like to work in a concentration camp for the good of the motherland.


    Yes, a specific eccentric. Moscow is a front-line city and everyone left to fight with NATO. When NATO itself in the European version can only fight with the Papuans. All these concessions to the Gaster and Caucasians just to firstly, do not throw off the secular regimes in Central Asia, and secondly to the real bucha did not start again in the Caucasus (Gaddafi also fed and brought the Tuareg to ensure calm in the desert). If you now kick all the hungry people off the construction sites, they will arrange a new Islamic revolution there, and the sponsors with bags of money are already ready, at the same time, the smoldering Caucasus is flaring up and all this will have to be extinguished again with the blood of our soldiers and officers. And all these independent guys will come back here only as refugees. Here you have new local wars and prerequisites for the fragmentation of Russia. Is our army and other power departments capable of extinguishing such local wars quickly and with minimal losses? At this moment, I doubt very much, Therefore, we must weigh the pros and cons with the same visa regime that Putin does not want to impose. Moreover, they are all divided by ethnicity, Uzbeks hate Tajiks, Kyrgyz Kyrgyz, Azerbaijanis are the same Uzbeks and Armenians. be Russian, they will cut each other. But in order to unite them against the Russians and come up with all this Islamism and aggressively instill it especially in Moscow. And in the Volga region there is also small-town nationalism in addition. And they like to scare when they see that they are not in danger ... it has passed more than once. I remember on the Belka in the early 90s there were still paid toilets everywhere, so my friend and I decided to cast somewhere in the area of ​​warehouses and warehouses. We look at four black little snowstorms of the same two. It turned out four Uzbeks and two aztsa. To a polite question, why did the four of us receive the incorrect answer and jumping, waving with knives, well, and together with their legs and knives, two lay down and two ran away. The weight categories were different. By the way, the az-ts escaped even earlier, despite the help (probably thought that the opera was dressed up or bandits).
    What is needed here is a clear policy of the state in relation to business, first of all, and in our conditions of a free liberal market and a corrupt system on the ground it is almost impossible. It is necessary to clean out all these clan diasporas not only when people start to rebel. but this is just the problem.
    1. virm
      virm 23 October 2013 17: 52 New
      +9
      ". If we now kick out all the hungry from construction sites, they will arrange a new Islamic revolution there" - not a fact. Absolutely not a fact.
      We have a visa regime with Turkmenistan. There are no Turkmen in the Russian Federation. And no revolution is visible there. On the contrary, they live quietly and peacefully for themselves.
      In Azerbaijan, oil is dofiga. More than in the Russian Federation. Why not live? There are no prerequisites for poverty. If you work. But they don’t want to work. They would sit on our neck.
      So your geopolitical calculations are wrong.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 23 October 2013 18: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: virm
        We have a visa regime with Turkmenistan. There are no Turkmen in the Russian Federation.

        Wrong formulate. There are no visas with Belarus, but nonetheless, Belarusians are not on the markets and construction sites either. People do not go from there, because life there is not so bad. TurkmenBashi was a controversial figure, but for people he did everything he could. Lack of rent, free gas, salt, matches, what else to list? Back in USSR in one word.
      2. Dimon-chik-79
        Dimon-chik-79 24 October 2013 14: 24 New
        +1
        I totally agree. Money is everything. Geopolitics as a cover for corrupt officials. They just benefit from low-paid slave labor + drug business and, as a bonus, meek, powerless for all willing labor resources. A sort of new Russia with new the Russians, without Russians and many other indigenous peoples whose same will be squeezed out of here.
        Otherwise, how can one find an explanation for everything that is happening in Russia? Who will answer why it is impossible to calmly obtain a work visa and legally work in our country, paying taxes, medical insurance, while receiving a white salary, etc. At the same time, accounting and control over the flows of labor migration were carried out. No one is going to erect walls on the border. The conclusion can be made by one - this chaos and lawlessness is very beneficial to someone!
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 23 October 2013 18: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Ascetic
      at the same time the smoldering Caucasus is flaring up and all this will have to be extinguished again with the blood of our soldiers and officers

      In conditions of a great war, no one will be ceremonious with them. And there they understand it too.
      1. Lesnik
        Lesnik 24 October 2013 01: 20 New
        +3
        What the hell is a big war? Understand no declaration of war WILL NOT BE and even more so no threatened period. If those in power and decide to mobilize and impose a state of wartime, then after the fact, that is, only after it breaks out!
        This threat, as the Americans say, is "asymmetric"
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 24 October 2013 07: 29 New
          -1
          Quote: Forestman
          What the hell is a big war? Understand no declaration of war WILL

          Well, for example, a conflict with China. And the declaration of war has nothing to do with it. And in wartime conditions no one will talk with the same Chechens. I spoke about this.
          1. Lesnik
            Lesnik 24 October 2013 08: 35 New
            0
            Read the laws of the Russian Federation! I'm tired of explaining.
  • Starfish
    Starfish 23 October 2013 18: 31 New
    +6
    the author is right, this is the finished gangster fifth column. in war their employers will seize the moment and not pay them. that’s the reason and reason for the robberies and robberies.
    and among migrants, especially Caucasian ones, who are fully sympathetic to terrorists. and they have enough weapons, and fellow tribesmen in the police, district governments and the prosecutor's office. they will warn them about everything in advance.
    so you need to solve this problem now, and not leave it for later
  • Asgard
    Asgard 23 October 2013 15: 45 New
    +8
    Not considered the issue of feeding the metropolis)))))
    Almost 100% imported and distributed food products are able to exist with a working financial system !!!!
    This is a sleaze and robberies in a 50 km zone (where gangs can reach)))
    This is the elimination of the police, as a subject, both on the part of the Civilian population (for treason)) and on the part of Ethnic Gangs)))

    And without war, THREE large-scale conflicts across the country (the police will scatter))) and woodcarving will begin)))))
  • buzuke
    buzuke 23 October 2013 15: 45 New
    0
    some nonsense ... a stream of emotions instead of specifics, conclusions and suggestions
    1. Egen
      Egen 24 October 2013 07: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: buzuke
      flow of emotions instead of specifics, conclusions and suggestions

      I agree - comrades, this is all clear, but what proposals?
      It is understandable about expelling migrants, but it is not very serious - this is "a reality given to us in sensations" :)
      And what about the population? IMHO one way out - to organize and arm.
      KP dated 23.10: "at an extraordinary meeting of the anti-terrorist commission of the Kemerovo region, Governor Aman Tuleyev, among other things, said that the public should also play an important role in matters of anti-terrorist security. He expressed the idea of ​​reviving the institute of people's guards for the protection of law and order: detachments, everyone and pay for their work. "

      I already said that we have enough Chinese and Caucasians in Kemerovo, they are not particularly visible, but whoever comes across knows. And also a well-organized gypsy drug mafia :)
      And they reduced the police a) - you can’t get a local policeman or a traffic cop b) they don’t take even if you want c) they pay + - 10 tyr (except for clearly ugro, etc., but there’s your own circle and caste).
      + its own bureaucratic mafia, whose interests are its own skin, and not the people.
      And - what? In the case of any externally-provoked internal global conflicts - what options can there be ?!
  • Hellriker
    Hellriker 23 October 2013 15: 50 New
    +4
    In case of war, all the monkeys must be caught in freight trains to the front, as "cannon fodder."
    1. Lesnik
      Lesnik 23 October 2013 16: 10 New
      -9
      And ischo is clever thinking? al all over?
    2. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 23 October 2013 16: 28 New
      +6
      Well, what's the use of them at the front. And if you catch in advance, there is a much greater chance of avoiding war.
      Method: to demand compliance with applicable law, in all severity, under the current conditions, close to combat. Below I give two clues.
      1. 245 CC for sheep - a year of forced.
      2. The same for group indecent poses in the square.
      As you can see, they themselves give rise to excesses.
    3. Bezarius
      Bezarius 23 October 2013 16: 33 New
      +6
      Of these, wars are absolutely useless, as is shown by the history of the past, and the same recent "war" in Georgia.
  • Joonkey
    Joonkey 23 October 2013 15: 54 New
    +1
    Reflections on the topic, and if all of a sudden ... I think in this case it will be necessary to worry about those who have been mobilized, and a smaller number of riot policemen will cope with rabble in wartime, by the way, in case of martial law they will have MUCH more authority.
  • erased
    erased 23 October 2013 15: 55 New
    11
    True written. But since such a situation persists and develops, then this is beneficial to the authorities. Why? This is another question.
  • Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 23 October 2013 15: 55 New
    11
    Again proctology show on the street!

    For obscene behavior, backwards in a public place, erased the laws?

    And animals will be cut outside the meat-packing plant - a year of forced labor throughout the area, according to Article 245 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

    245 Article. Animal abuse.
    1. Cruel treatment of animals, resulting in their death or injury, ... either through correctional labor for a term of up to one year, or arrest for a term of up to six months.
  • domokl
    domokl 23 October 2013 15: 58 New
    -7
    again in fool's day open doors? Absolute bullshit. The author not only does not know the laws of the country, but also history. Even comment on laziness.
    1. Lesnik
      Lesnik 23 October 2013 16: 12 New
      +7
      And do not ... rest smile
    2. sub307
      sub307 23 October 2013 16: 19 New
      -7
      I agree with you completely - just "bullshit after midnight."
  • Yugra
    Yugra 23 October 2013 16: 07 New
    +1
    What will be, what will be ... Yes, according to the law of wartime, we will have the right to shoot these migrant criminal hordes. And just something. And an article in the grade with a minus ...
  • Nickanor
    Nickanor 23 October 2013 16: 08 New
    +2
    It seems to me that if martial law arises (God forbid) in Moscow, all guests of the capital will be swept out with pissing brooms and rags in the shortest possible time, not only outside of it, but also outside Russia. And indeed, in wartime much more severe measures are in place for such an element.
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 23 October 2013 16: 12 New
    -1
    What kind of war? With a nuclear power, only a nuclear one.
    1. Horn
      Horn 24 October 2013 07: 30 New
      +4
      There will be no nuclear war. Fools are dumb. There will be many small and large terrorist attacks, the displacement of Russians from all more or less significant posts in the nat. republics (Tatarstan, Bashkiria, etc.), there will be an everyday antagonism "black-white", etc. Moreover, the Russians, due to their less organization (like everyone who got down from the tree before, Russians lack close primitive tribal ties) and law-abidingness, will lose to the wilder. And this permanent massacre and fear will lead to the collapse of the country in 3-5 years.
    2. Dimon-chik-79
      Dimon-chik-79 24 October 2013 14: 46 New
      0
      What kind of nuclear weapon? This is just a deterrent! No one will ever apply it! Yes, and if fuss begins inside the country, and the country is already pretty full of potential fighters for a just cause with infidels (just bring a match to the fuse), what kind of use of such weapons can we talk about?
      Everything has passed the time of tank fists. Warriors of the 21st century are mercenaries, fanatics, other dark people who drove over their ears, which operate inside the victim’s country like parasites eating it. And this parasite only needs to find a way to penetrate the body. And the trouble is that body whose skin has lost its barrier function.
      Syria is an eloquent and striking example of such a modern warrior.
  • Krasnoarmeec
    Krasnoarmeec 23 October 2013 16: 18 New
    +1
    If someone forgot, not so long ago, a representative of a Transcaucasian ethnic group died in Moscow as a result of a criminal showdown. His fellow countrymen literally organized themselves into a huge crowd of many thousands in a few minutes, which, having paralyzed the movement on Komsomolsky Avenue of the capital, moved towards the city hall. The riot police arrived in alarm, without any ceremony (noble, however, it was then wet), dispersed the crowd of Caucasians.
    And what will happen in wartime? It is terrible to even imagine like that. Or nobody ever thought about it? It seems that, as usual, we live according to the famous Chernomyrdin formula: “We have never had such a thing - and suddenly, look, again!”.



    Why is it scary to think? In my opinion, it's not scary at all)))) Since that's the case, according to the law of martial time ... to shoot all the provocateurs on the spot! Yes, and about mobilization, the author went too far, before mobilization the enemy will have to go through quite a few "shields" and "lines", and it will not be easy to do it, though we now remind a lame dog, but still a fighting breed, with not frail track record list))))) And when it comes to mobilization, half of those listed will run away themselves, and the rest will be helped ...
    1. fklj
      fklj 23 October 2013 16: 32 New
      +9
      before mobilization, the enemy will have to go through quite a few "shields" and "lines", and it will not be easy to do this, though we now remind a limping dog, but still a fighting breed, with a not frail track record)))))

      Do not be too lazy to search the Internet for an approximate correlation of forces between NATO and Russia, as well as Russia and China, without the nuclear component of the armed forces. Useful for broadening one's horizons.
      1. Krasnoarmeec
        Krasnoarmeec 23 October 2013 16: 37 New
        +1
        I mean, that it will not be as easy as in 41 ....... and full-scale hostilities do not take place like that anymore, from the beginning it is necessary to recapture the air and only then let the infantry go.


        Although China may go that way)))
        1. fklj
          fklj 23 October 2013 16: 46 New
          +2
          Everything can be, but if only there wasn’t smile
          1. Krasnoarmeec
            Krasnoarmeec 23 October 2013 16: 51 New
            +4
            Sorry, I can’t plus yet) but I fully agree! drinks
            1. fklj
              fklj 23 October 2013 17: 04 New
              +3
              drinks Find a like-minded person here a hundred times more expensive than all the pros and cons smile And rare luck
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 23 October 2013 18: 48 New
          +2
          Considered in the 70s. Four easel maxims on one side and a column of Chinese on the other. Towards each other. The team on the left is fire !, the team on the right is a march. Tolerance: the trunks are not replaced (eternal), the cartridge strip is endless, the corpses themselves fall into the abyss, and imagine? The yellow-faced column will not decrease!
          They say that the great helmsman told the plan of victory over Russia: 4 stages. Stage 1: The first 200 million Chinese are surrendered. They are placed in camps. Stage 2: the second 200 million Chinese are surrendered. In the USSR, products are running out. The prisoners are still guarded by the Soviet. Stage 3: another + 200 million. The Soviet begin to eat prisoners. Stage 4: + 200 million more prisoners. Victory! There are already 5 stars on the red flag!
      2. leon-iv
        leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 41 New
        0
        Do not be too lazy to search the Internet for an approximate correlation of forces between NATO and Russia, as well as Russia and China, without the nuclear component of the armed forces. Useful for broadening one's horizons.

        Is this a cheat for a giveaway game? We put in dough unmeasured (SNF) and now it’s kind of dishonest. Nude nude
        But NATO NATO in Europe is already a fake. This is about french.
        Thus, in 2008, the Ministry of Defense launched a new fleet management policy. Leclerc tanks are a true symbol of the thoughtless use of ground troops: of the 208 (officially) available military vehicles, only 36 are in constant readiness

        1. fklj
          fklj 23 October 2013 16: 50 New
          +3
          Everything is valid, everything is fair. That's just for the rest of the components, we have the same .. And with such themes of "growth", it, this one, will be for a long time.
          All hope for the triad ...
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 58 New
            +1
            And with such themes of "growth", she, this one, will be for a long time.

            The pace is quite nothing like that. And about European armies this is already a laugh.
            1. Lesnik
              Lesnik 23 October 2013 17: 42 New
              +2
              and they don’t need
      3. Troy
        Troy 23 October 2013 17: 36 New
        +5
        Yes, you are sick of it with your nuclear strikes. If the war starts, then it will go beyond the territory and resources, and who needs the infected territory?
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 23 October 2013 17: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Troy
          Yes, you are sick of it with your nuclear strikes. If the war starts, then it will go beyond the territory and resources, and who needs the infected territory?

          Read less about nuclear winter.
          And here's a little tip
          1. Troy
            Troy 23 October 2013 17: 46 New
            +6
            And what does the nuclear winter have to do with it? I say that developing the territory after a nuclear strike will be problematic. And send your tip to the experts from Fukushima.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 23 October 2013 20: 47 New
              -2
              And send your tip to the experts from Fukushima

              Oh, the generation of the Unified State Examination of Rukalitzo.zhpg. They can no longer distinguish nuclear reactions.
          2. Joonkey
            Joonkey 23 October 2013 18: 11 New
            +5
            According to this formula, as a result, deuterium, after its interaction with oxygen, produces heavy radioactive water, so there’s not much fun ... and nuclear winter does not come because of the large number of decay products of plutonium or uranium nuclei, but but from dust raised in the upper atmosphere, radioactive dust, so it all depends on the power and number of charges blown up for a limited amount of time
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 23 October 2013 20: 48 New
              0
              Who needs the infected area?

              Here the conversation goes for it. And after TNW, few isotopes are formed. For who needs contaminated territory.
        2. Horn
          Horn 24 October 2013 12: 03 New
          0
          It is after the "dirty" bombs that the territory has been contaminated for a lot of years. And modern vigorous ammunition is almost clean in a month or two
    2. Neighbor
      Neighbor 23 October 2013 16: 40 New
      +8
      There were publications that the majority of Moscow police schools are Caucasian physiognomy.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 23 October 2013 16: 43 New
        0
        There were publications that the majority of Moscow police schools are Caucasian physiognomy.

        These are target sets from the national republics. Which then go there to serve. There is nothing strange about this. And unusual.
  • Krasnoarmeec
    Krasnoarmeec 23 October 2013 16: 24 New
    10
    In general, the war is already underway!
  • GAYDUK5
    GAYDUK5 23 October 2013 16: 24 New
    10
    As migrants grow quantitatively and qualitatively (financial independence), more and more rights will be presented, more will be claimed, and then they will say, and this is ours and we have the right to do so, we must create conditions so that we can leave, and not create an alternative homeland with mosques. My opinion.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 23 October 2013 16: 39 New
    -6
    If you hypothetically imagine what the author of the article suggested about military operations and mobilization, you can be absolutely sure that if this is the case, in 24 hours not only migrants will be removed from Moscow, but also other marginal elements.
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 23 October 2013 16: 39 New
    +1
    An article if yes, just to emphasize the current situation with ghostbyteyrami.
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 23 October 2013 16: 41 New
    +2
    If war helps get rid of Gaster quickly, then war would be quick!
  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 23 October 2013 16: 48 New
    +3
    The couple, it seems, in the Far East the same situation with the Chinese, if not worse.
    1. Krasnoarmeec
      Krasnoarmeec 23 October 2013 16: 54 New
      +3
      Much worse, I have relatives in Krasnoyarsk, all the greenhouses, all the subsidiary farming (except holdings) all the Chinese keep.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 23 October 2013 17: 00 New
        0
        So you were not in SEA. China leads the main expansion in the south and not north. And in America, the Chinese are an order of magnitude more than ours. + besides they have a practical North is not populated, do not believe me, see the map.
    2. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 23 October 2013 17: 14 New
      +1
      We have few Chinese. You will not see a single one in the city. So don’t heat up
    3. zasxdcfvv
      zasxdcfvv 23 October 2013 17: 48 New
      +1
      I report. There were few Chinese.
    4. Bigriver
      Bigriver 23 October 2013 17: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: x.andvlad
      Couple, it seems, in the Far East, the same situation with the Chinese, if not worse.

      Where, specifically, in the Far East?
      However, the question is about "knowledge", but you don't seem to have it?
  • bormen
    bormen 23 October 2013 16: 52 New
    -11 qualifying.
    for me it’s better that European boots trample Russian soil than dirty and smelly chocks !!! and in wartime I dig up the trunks and pay everything .....
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 23 October 2013 18: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: bormen
      for me it’s better that European boots trample Russian soil than dirty and smelly chocks !!! and in wartime I dig up the trunks and pay everything .....

      Ay-ay-ay request
      Ishsho nothing started, but you are already demoralized?
    2. Guun
      Guun 23 October 2013 18: 46 New
      +3
      Forgot Hitler European? Or maybe you remember the Teutons? After all, Europeans too.
    3. alone
      alone 23 October 2013 19: 22 New
      +4
      already without a fight you hand over the country to Europeans?))
      1. Analyst
        Analyst 23 October 2013 19: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: lonely
        already without a fight you hand over the country to Europeans?))

        True to notice, there are such thinkers.
        But most will do anything for Mother Russia.
  • Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 23 October 2013 16: 55 New
    +4
    Quote: vlad0
    To begin with, these "tovarischi with dark skin" will arrange something here that "St. Bartholomew's night" will seem like a child's prank. And only then there will be camps, escapes home and the trial of triplets as part of the patrol.

    Yes, if the dark-skinned dwellers somehow get a weapon, it will not seem to everyone.
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 23 October 2013 17: 07 New
    +3
    Is the author stupid or pretending to be ??
    Firstly, migrants will not be in the country in which the war is going on, especially in the capital, which is close to the front.
    Secondly, you think migrants will stand on ceremony (and according to the author, they will rage) in a country where the population is fighting, therefore, we will have many weapons and the psychological state is completely different when your loved ones die.
    In short, the author is treated and treated.
    1. avt
      avt 23 October 2013 17: 39 New
      -1
      Quote: Yeraz
      Is the author stupid or pretending to be ??

      So it was marked by anger of the day, by the way, when a trader was cut in a puddle, but indeed they went along Komsomolsky with a corpse, but riot police didn’t blow anyone. They just needed appearances and chains across the avenue. They threw the body and slippers away, barefoot. money pulled, word for word - with a knife to the side.
      Quote: Yeraz
      In short, the author is treated and treated.

      But I really want to be an "engineer of human souls", hence this hysterical intellectual nonsense, without a real analysis of a really difficult situation, especially when I have seen enough amer films about catastrophes.
  • buywol
    buywol 23 October 2013 17: 33 New
    +3
    Our government is all playing with migrants. I will not be surprised that Wahhabi combat cells have been created in Moscow itself and the surrounding regions. And God forbid that anything like Syria happens now, all these so-called guest workers will take the side of the Wahhabis and do not need any nuclear bomb, it will be worse. So our rulers need to conduct politics in Belarus, to bet on their people. Give people a decent salary, and most people will come out of the so-called binge, since this is all from without source, feed the family, give a decent education to their children. Feeling the state’s concern for the people, the birth rate and employment of the population will increase. And now people are left to their own devices and everyone survives as best he can. That is why we have such an unified nation, bribes, corruption.
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 23 October 2013 17: 35 New
      -1
      Wahhabi fighting cells.

      And how much will they fight?
      1. Bigriver
        Bigriver 23 October 2013 18: 07 New
        -1
        Quote: leon-iv
        ... And how much will they fight?

        Until the energy of the sun, from which their weapons will be fed, runs out. And until the asphalt and concrete that the battle groups eat, instead of noodles and stews, ends.
        wassat
        "Khodarenok" is a kind of new drug.
        "Supergrass for superbison" (c) is not mine.
  • Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 23 October 2013 17: 50 New
    +1
    The problem is not in the monkeys, but in the fact that the weaklings do not want to fulfill their duties, without the onset of wartime.
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 23 October 2013 18: 06 New
    +5
    Neighbor Belarus. Many say that Russia pays tribute to the Caucasus.
    If tribute was good! And so Russian money encourages terrorism and banditry of the Kadyrov style. There was a Soviet officer Dudaev. I wanted to separate. Soaked and staged the First Chechen. There was a generally adequate opponent of Russia-Maskhadov. I was ready to play according to the agreed rules. He also wanted to secede, but not as decisively as Dudaev. Soaked. Personally, Putin made the Second Chechen. Thanks to her, Putin climbed the throne, put a clean bandit Kadyrov, pays his son a tribute and believes that he will help him sit out and hide when he smells fried. Maybe it is not in vain that he thinks so. And Vainakhs consider themselves winners and behave like occupiers. Therefore, the statistics of their crimes is classified.
    And about the fact that it is worth touching Sev. The Caucasus, as soon as something begins in Tatarstan and Bashkiria, is an absolute lie distributed specially. Vainakhs got everyone! Well, they can’t live in a more or less civilized society. At least in Russia, at least in Kazakhstan (where they left a bad memory), at least in Europe with the Americas. I think that they would not get along even in Saudi Arabia. For what sins you are forced to exist with them in one state, and allies?
    1. Guun
      Guun 23 October 2013 18: 43 New
      +4
      The Chechens who went too far got what they deserved long ago - we are not a tolerant people, but with normal Chechens the attitude is normal. If at a party - be kind, behave yourself with dignity and there will be no problems - otherwise they will give him a head and his closest circle.
      1. Oberst_71
        Oberst_71 24 October 2013 12: 05 New
        0
        yes, Kazakhs normally put Chechens in their place
    2. alone
      alone 23 October 2013 19: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: goldfinger
      that Russia pays tribute to the Caucasus.


      Yes, no one pays tribute. Just having entered into a conspiracy, the center and their proteges in the Caucasus quietly arrange a carousel for unpacking budget funds. Money from the budget goes to any Sevkavkaz republic. The head takes its share and transfers the rest of the funds through front organizations to the same front organizations, who are under the control of those who sent this money to the North Caucasus.
      Do you think that these huge funds reached the ordinary resident of Chechnya, Dagestan? look at the ramzan motorcade. The price of all cars is more than the budget of any district in any region.

      and this is called "tribute"))
  • New Russia
    New Russia 23 October 2013 18: 12 New
    +2
    And that everyone is indignant? What they voted for in 2011/2012, they got it. As one famous thief in law said at the arrow, "The battle for Russia continues, victory will be ours!" How confident they are in their victory ... We need to break them off)
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 23 October 2013 18: 43 New
      +2
      Passing, well, tell me, who is to blame for the fact that our cities are captured by hordes of barbarians and Caucasian organized crime groups? Minus means that the power for which we voted is not to blame?) And who is to blame?) Why then is the power) I am waiting for an explanation
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 23 October 2013 19: 19 New
        +1
        I knew that you had nothing to say, you lost, gentlemen, good luck)
        1. Guun
          Guun 23 October 2013 20: 15 New
          -1
          What is there to prove. And who will take the place of V.V. Putin? The liberals will destroy Russia here and the fool is clear, can you go to the presidency? Go, you’re smart, you’ll immediately put things in order, plant thieves and raise their salaries for everyone - it’s still easy ... My grandmother has diarrhea - the government is to blame. I read about the United States (if this is true) then you still live in chocolate.
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 23 October 2013 20: 45 New
            +2
            "Liberals will destroy Russia here and the fool understands" I completely agree, our liberal government is destroying Russia.

            "Grandma has diarrhea - the authorities are to blame." What does grandmother's diarrhea have to do with it?) National policy in Russia is not much worse, worse is only open recognition by the authorities of genocide, the national policy is the responsibility of the authorities and no one else, no need to distort.

            "And who will take the place of V.V. Putin?" The fact that patriots are not shown on TV does not mean that they are not there; it only means that the authorities do not need them as an alternative to it.
            1. Russ69
              Russ69 23 October 2013 23: 40 New
              0
              Quote: New Russia
              "Grandma has diarrhea - the authorities are to blame."

              Madame, when will you once again express your fantasies, then remember the proverb that you quoted.
              Quote: New Russia
              The fact that the patriots are not shown on TV does not mean that they are not, but only that the authorities do not need them as an alternative to herself.

              They are not even visible on the Internet ... Alas ...
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 24 October 2013 01: 35 New
                +1
                "Quote: New Russia
                "Grandma has diarrhea - the authorities are to blame."
                This is not my quote.
          2. Oberst_71
            Oberst_71 24 October 2013 12: 08 New
            0
            absolutely agree. there is no one. Pulled out bulk. If you look at who is behind him, then again all the same Jews. But not in power. Germans. daredevils, caspars, other evil spirits.
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 23 October 2013 23: 37 New
        0
        Quote: New Russia
        Passing, well, tell me, who is to blame for the fact that our cities are captured by hordes of barbarians and Caucasian organized crime groups? Minus means that the power for which we voted is not to blame?) And who is to blame?) Why then is the power) I am waiting for an explanation

        Strange, I’m living and I don’t watch any capture. And those are Caucasians. what is . quite normal people, at least there are no conflicts and no tension.
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 24 October 2013 01: 37 New
          +3
          "It's strange, I live here and I don't see any seizure. And those that are Caucasians. That are. Quite normal people." Let me guess, there are no Caucasians among your friends) Of course, I guessed it, because you hardly communicate with uneducated gopniks
  • olegyurjewitch
    olegyurjewitch 23 October 2013 18: 56 New
    +1
    Guys, just today there was a meeting on this issue led by the president, do not be lazy, look at the news in the evening, they dotted the i's.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 23 October 2013 19: 12 New
      +2
      How many such meetings have already taken place on corruption and "modernization of the economy" (this phrase has become offensive)?) Where are the results?) Why do you think that this meeting will be an exception?
  • Siberian
    Siberian 23 October 2013 19: 50 New
    +2
    Although I am Root Russian. BUT I’ll express it, they want a Muscovite freebie, get it at the most reluctant. And do not scream to the whole country that you are poked in all holes. Know how to trade, sweep and build, and tax for the same money. And everything will be a bunch.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 23 October 2013 20: 57 New
      0
      "RUSSIANEN")
    2. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 24 October 2013 12: 09 New
      0
      I agree. who rents them an apartment?
  • anarh
    anarh 23 October 2013 19: 56 New
    0
    Quote: alekseyal
    Terrorist reaction

    Where is the work of diasporas?
    Or are they only able to dissuade their bandits and howl when they step on their tail?
    Is he not farsighted about caring for the fate of his fellow tribesmen, giving out scumbags and working with young people?
    But, apparently, the long brain of the diasporas does not work.
  • grafrozow
    grafrozow 23 October 2013 21: 08 New
    +1
    June 22, 1941, too, did not wait, contracts, pacts ... The consequences are terrible, everyone knows, and they know that history moves in a spiral, God forbid. And the situation with arbeiters and Russians from the Caucasus resembles a steam boiler without supervision. I personally do not I am sure that he will not explode soon, beautiful words and empty promises of our "guarantor" will not lead to good. No need to wait for the thunder to break out !!! Enough tolerance !!! THE HOMELAND IS IN DANGER !!! And God help us.
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  • zub46
    zub46 23 October 2013 21: 33 New
    +5
    A very relevant article. But not tolerant, say our opponents. Of course, not tolerant. Remembering the achievements of the period of World War II. About 50 percent of the police are called up to the front. Instead of men, the patrol service is equipped with girls with rifles. Half of the operas and investigators are in the troops, mainly in special departments and intelligence. Crime in the rear cities is very high, cruel manners, plus looters, a lot of deserters and draft dodgers. Enough and real saboteurs. Salvation to some extent was in the rigidity (or cruelty?) Of the laws of wartime. I don’t know how this question looks in modern mobplans. Given modern realities, the situation in large cities of Russia in case of mobilization, war has every chance to become very difficult. And how is it that whole autonomous republics were resettled in a week if necessary? Interestingly, at least one of those who are supposed to remember that experience? And the crime that grew during the war was only managed by the mid-60s.
  • your1970
    your1970 23 October 2013 23: 28 New
    +2
    two options: 1991 — when all the military were stupidly afraid to take responsibility for giving orders to use weapons, 1993 — when there was a person who signed the order. In the first case, the tankmen were kicked on the head (generally, there shouldn’t be such a nonsense !!!!! ! a military man in the tank over the head !!!), the second case - the tanks arrived, shot a little, and everything ended quickly, and there were very few casualties too, apparently shooting tanks quickly refresh their brains.
    In general, everything will depend on who signs the act on the introduction of martial law - someone like Stalin, then Chechnya will be pacified in a week, someone like Gorbachev, then Moscow will be plundered, etc. to zero
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 23 October 2013 23: 31 New
    0
    Smiled))
    http://coub.com/view/9h6fboi#like
  • baku1999
    baku1999 23 October 2013 23: 36 New
    +3
    IF TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE HEROES OF THE SOVIET UNION, AT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE POPULATION DURING WWII, OSSETIANS HAD MORE THAN EVERYTHING, THEN NOT ALL PEOPLES OF THE CAUCASUS WERE WAITING FOR HITER WITH INTEGRITY AND HARVESTLY BEEN SHARPENED (openly) THERE WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEPARATE AND SEPARATE. THESE FROM THOSE, DON'T GIVE GOD, WILL LIVE, EVERYTHING WE WILL BE AND IT IS NOT KNOWN WHO WHO WILL BE FOR WHOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 24 October 2013 12: 13 New
      +1
      not everyone agrees! In total, during the three years of the war, 49 Chechens and Ingush deserted from the ranks of the Red Army, another 362 evaded the draft, which totaled 13 people. He died on the fronts and went missing (and the latter included those who went over to the enemy) were just 389 people. The twice smaller Buryat people, which the German occupation did not threaten, lost 62751 people at the front, and a half times inferior to Chechens and Ingush Ossetians lost almost 2300 thousand. At the same time that the decree on resettlement was published, only 13 Chechens, Ingush and Balkars were in the army. That is, ten times more deserted than fought.
  • Civilian
    Civilian 24 October 2013 00: 23 New
    +2
    In general, I don’t understand how in modern conditions it is possible to carry out a complete and even partial mobilization. For example, a super disciplined owner and his managers are mobilized in accordance with the mobile prescription and need transport to transport them ... And who does this ??? Those girls from the military enlistment office to whom the managers or the owner handed over transport reports ??? And everything, the whole country, all the legal entities who have transport, hand over such reports every year (thank God, even for IP canceled, it’s not so funny anymore)
    And modern technical conditions under which unskilled actions of insufficiently qualified personnel can have more devastating consequences than sabotage or bombing ??? And most of all we need an organization in combat conditions at this particular production facility, and the organizer has a mobile prescription and in Tmutarakan ... But, God forbid, the war with France will start again, and the French bought us AvtoVAZ !!! ... And many more such questions. In my opinion, no one is doing stage work where it is most needed. Again, bet on technology, and the complete absence of normal scenarios and really trained specialists.
    1. your1970
      your1970 24 October 2013 01: 21 New
      +2
      Not nuclear ones will not attack us, nuclear ones as well, China remains, to which our nuclear drum-plus minus 100 lyamov populations are violet ... :)
      there’s no point in attacking us, all of a sudden we will give up:) etozh to feed such a crowd of prisoners
      Seriously, it’s easier to buy resources for green candy wrappers (which are not even pieces of paper, but just binary code in the servers), territories — only if China can be too hot, occupation is not even funny: Napoleon entered Russia with 600 thousands and stayed to Borodino with 170 (leaving the rest in the garrisons and dead) at such a pace, he would have come to Peter in splendid isolation, even without Borodin, Hitler - all about the same thing with only a large number of people and equipment ...
      and the worst thing for Europe - a war with us will automatically shut down gas and oil, and of course, the nationalization of the property of enemies
      "Lord, how did England prevent him?" (C) The same Munchausen
    2. Lesnik
      Lesnik 24 October 2013 01: 34 New
      0
      I agree with the ostrich tactic "head in the sand and there at least no grass grows"
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  • Fox
    Fox 24 October 2013 06: 55 New
    +2
    but I liked about the Momsvichs from the author ... like they will go to war by conscription ... and who from Moscow saw the recruits? with just one peephole ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 24 October 2013 07: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: Fox
      but I liked about the Momsvichs from the author ... like they will go to war by conscription ... and who from Moscow saw the recruits? with just one peephole ...

      Well, you are chesslovo. In Moscow, even women serve, with Serdyukov in Moscow Region, you probably don’t watch TV laughing
      1. Oberst_71
        Oberst_71 24 October 2013 12: 15 New
        0
        and you monitor again! no until the Jews are remembered.!
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 24 October 2013 09: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Fox
    but I liked about the Momsvichs from the author ... like they will go to war by conscription ... and who from Moscow saw the recruits? with just one peephole ...

    Well, you are chesslovo. In Moscow, even women serve, with Serdyukov in Moscow Region, you probably don’t watch TV laughing

    Kind ! Sarcasm is not appropriate here, conscripts from Moscow and in serious parts are serving!
    Some fantastic things are spelled out in the article, while the vast majority of Russians in the region do not blaze, blaze when 50/50 becomes. We are in the majority and hockey is not very.
  • ingener1c
    ingener1c 24 October 2013 11: 19 New
    0
    what nonsense, why cops to the front? They will have business in Moscow above the roof. And in fact, in wartime they will quickly solve the problem, xs like right now, but at 41 they would have solved it in 72 hours.
    Wagon> front> hand-to-hand combat with tanks - an approximate solution to the problem
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 24 October 2013 12: 25 New
    0
    The author, it seems to me, exaggerates the colors, if there is a naughty approach, then everything will be drawn from Moscow, because Moscow is a priority goal, migrants will also run away. The riots will be suppressed if they act harshly and introduce a curfew, pull up the troops and calm all the "rebels" on the spot forever. The people are also not bastard, they will gather in heaps and arm themselves, reinforcements from other volosts will be brought up. In general, such a naughty will clear Russia of migrants forever it's not in their best interest.
  • kush62
    kush62 24 October 2013 15: 21 New
    0
    I understood from the article and some comments that I was watching RenTV. A huge meteorite flies into us from the galaxy and to all the khan.
    At 41m, however, the alarmists were shot !!!
  • VPO
    VPO 24 October 2013 15: 21 New
    +3
    The article is strange and I did not see anything new there. I am sure that all people who have an order in their head have long been armed and if something happens they will find something to answer and meet. I always have a replenished supply of buckshot and bullet cartridges in a safe. I periodically force my wife to shoot and not to forget skills. All her nagging ended after one day at the Pechatniki metro station in broad daylight a bunch of Kyrgyz (drunk) almost robbed her (fleeing). Moreover, not one Slavic face did not help. I am aware that if suddenly ... then I will beat to defeat. Let me sit later, but my little cell of society in the form of a wife and little son will not be offended.
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 24 October 2013 15: 39 New
      0
      So it is necessary that people are not fragmented anarchists or provocative gangs, but a structure and support at the heart of the state.
      In many countries they are called reservists and national guards.
      Meetings, gatherings and certifications are regularly held, training is being conducted under the guidance of veterans.
      And all this is stimulated, brought up openly, from a young age, en masse.
      For this, the personnel and military registration and enlistment offices joyfully buried now were needed.
      It also averts discontent and obscurely organized protests.
      Actually, we are talking about recovery.
  • Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 24 October 2013 15: 26 New
    +1
    They could, there were times
  • Thirteenth
    Thirteenth 24 October 2013 15: 56 New
    0
    “It is very dangerous to lay the idea of ​​their exclusivity in people's heads” Vladimir Putin
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 24 October 2013 16: 09 New
      0
      At the 11 minute, the author of Gaidar’s Navalny wrote to the nationalists ... laughing